gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

I'm less convinced

[atomic abyss]

I mean I would bring her over eld for 15 mob

[slow fox]

Are you convinced now

[atomic abyss]

Flag cover helps sushi too

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't go that far at this point

[opaque gate]

is there anything special with iron blood torps?

[sour raven]

What the?

[opaque gate]

the torp bombers

[viscid swift]

Apart from anything her own ability to survive is kind of up in the air right now

[atomic abyss]

Ironblood torp bombers converge

[viscid swift]

Not to mention eldridge can main tank for the mob fleet

[opaque gate]

is it any better than ryusei?

[atomic abyss]

Side grade

[opaque gate]

okok thanks

[quartz jungle]

Bring both

[bold cove]

So prior bulins is CV then depend on Z52 test went out

[slow fox]

slight fix to AA

[atomic abyss]

The priority is save first

Do bear in mind Yorktown2 was announced by JP to return on Jan 9

[eager mulch]

“Woldgang”

[bold cove]

Damn, i dont have her too

[slow fox]

I'm going to update your eHP

[atomic abyss]

So save the rainburins till we're sure

[eager mulch]

turtle eHP = ♾️

[atomic abyss]

Let the veterans with a million UR bulins test them

[bold cove]

Okay, sound like the right choice atm

[viscid swift]

Which will be at least a week

Just to get the skills maxed for them

[atomic abyss]

I must say
The most disappointing part is rumey's slow and her cl guns

[eager mulch]

yet people are gonna be asking all week how good they are

[still nest]

Anything added to gearlab?

[atomic abyss]

No gear lab update

There's no new gear this event period

[stark quiver]

Thus is the life of a gpher

[gusty olive]

Sadge... Rumey slow worse than Ark

[atomic abyss]

I am curious to see if Lala counts for that part of the skill

[gusty olive]

When not paired with Zwei

[atomic abyss]

Not once did it say Zwei specifically anyways

[eager mulch]

another improved quad mag tho

[atomic abyss]

EN words it as "pulling"

CN uses the term gravity iirc

[viscid swift]

Charybdis becomes meta surely

[atomic abyss]

So until we test, I wouldn't be so confident in saying it's bis 2 only

[grizzled sundial]

So like , i have limited amount of UR bulin , which ship take priority to MLB , Frizt or Z52 ?

[atomic abyss]

You save until we test them

[viscid swift]

We don't know

[bold cove]

If you dont have yorktown 2, then wait

[gusty olive]

Would be funny if somehow Charybdis is somehow a niche pair with Rumey lmaooo

[atomic abyss]

The difference is lala is actually a good ship

[viscid swift]

Like neither ship is looking like a new sweeping meta definer for the moment

[sharp socket]

what are paper evaluations of z52 currently

[viscid swift]

Another good UR DD

[atomic abyss]

AA carry, with flagship cover

[gusty olive]

gg for those who missed her lol

[sharp socket]

gun boat or torp boat?

[viscid swift]

Hybrid

[eager mulch]

Hammann III

[viscid swift]

Like 90% of DDs

[atomic abyss]

Gun

[sharp socket]

oh alright then

[atomic abyss]

125% torp eff is lol

[slow fox]

Changed Hipper META EVARate from 0.05 (typo) to 0.06

[pliant acorn]

I think the new Ur is good for mob fleet

[viscid swift]

Well only one main gun mount

[eternal moth]

UR good, what a surprise

[faint cloud]

cn's just "pulling effect" dunno why add the word gravitational

[atomic abyss]

Well URs are typically good for both mobbing and bossing

[slow fox]

I think the new UR will be a good dock warmer.

[eager mulch]

you messed up my eHP calcs

[viscid swift]

I know both URs are good tech

[eternal moth]

And I think she'll be a lot better for a boss fleet, and more specifically harbiter/metas, as she's better at support than damage

Only 4 TBs is going to hurt her damage on heavy at least

[sharp socket]

also not quite related to this but is mog better at light damage than tai yuan

[viscid swift]

No

[pliant acorn]

Is the new DD like Shime or laffey 2?

[atomic abyss]

What hurts Rumey is the fact she only has 2 plane slots

Not even remotely

In between

Rumey consequently has 45 less avi

[vale spindle]

yes fixed

[eternal moth]

Yeah, I saw that after making the ping, sorry.

[sharp socket]

alright so mog is gonna just be benched forever alr

[bold cove]

I think this is the part that made me not impressive, iron cross suppose to deal alot of dmg 😦

[viscid swift]

Said who

[atomic abyss]

Who said anything about her damage being shit

[eager mulch]

what kind of stupid logic is that

[sharp socket]

well if shes not better than my existing options

[viscid swift]

Which we don't know

[eternal moth]

That comment wasn't aimed at you

[eager mulch]

8x140% is not a small amount

[sharp socket]

unless that wasn't towards me

[viscid swift]

No one has these ships yet let alone close to maxing them out

[atomic abyss]

I'm saying that it's disappointing
I never said ot made her shit

[vale spindle]

lower than shinano

[viscid swift]

These ship aren't obvious broken like some but they do have potential, just wait and see

[eternal moth]

The comment was aimed at the guy saying Fritz's damage was bad.

[viscid swift]

You're pulling for them anyway so who gives a toss

[eager mulch]

me, who’s not pulling for them

[viscid swift]

Smh giving up good tech

[bold cove]

Not impressive = like shit or something worse? So im impressive mean im smart? Wtf?

[little tree]

Turtle cube poor

[soft raft]

Tech? Did I hear tech?
What do they give?

[atomic abyss]

She still looks really impressive lol

[eager mulch]

I have over 800

[atomic abyss]

It's just a point against her

[viscid swift]

All except hipper FP at 120 and 2 avi for fritz

[atomic abyss]

8 fighters is incredibly unique and useful

[quartz jungle]

2 AVI and 1 FP tech for Fritz/Z52 respectively

[little tree]

W15 with her would be cool

[soft raft]

Oh damn
That's real good

tho ofc there's like 3 Z Class ships on this roster LOL

[viscid swift]

Duisburg is +2 CL FP even

[wind hazel]

3 more DD FP, the list seems endless

[bold cove]

Crossfleet with AA support, yeah im going to pull for her, i dont have enough URs to fill out my fleets

[viscid swift]

You'll get there

[atomic abyss]

Uh not just that

[shell willow]

no quad mag torp farm or map tab just wasnt updated yet?

[atomic abyss]

You can give her LA-9s
And suddenly she'll be the best anti med CV

[eager mulch]

this event really is more w15 creep

[eternal moth]

Nope

[viscid swift]

Former

[atomic abyss]

No farm for them

[little tree]

W15 will be easy after this

[shell willow]

damn...

[soft raft]

truly a tradgedy
would've been so funny

[atomic abyss]

Lol no

[viscid swift]

As if Guam wasn't already enough powercreep for W15

[atomic abyss]

It's not going to magically make w15 easy

[sweet delta]

From easy to easy

[atomic abyss]

Easier yes, easy no

[bold cove]

Did the light and medium boss go near the fire range of CL gun in backline?

[atomic abyss]

Another case of Itdependicitis

Some do, some don't
And her CL gun range is extended iirc

[sharp socket]

from pain in the ass to less pain?

[atomic abyss]

Ultimately it's inconsequential

[viscid swift]

I doubt fritz or z52 is gonna make things noticeably easier in w15

[atomic abyss]

The main thing is that she can use 8 LA-9s

Which is incredible from a damage perspective against med armour opsi/meta bosses

The only issue is do you have 2 LA-9s already

[faint cloud]

105 cl range and 120 ca range, how far it is

[viscid swift]

Working on it

[bold cove]

That is end end contents, i doubt that under 1 year account have 2 La9

[atomic abyss]

Uh

[sharp socket]

i will have 2 la9s by 2026

[atomic abyss]

I'm pretty sure people already have 2 LA-9s

[viscid swift]

Yep

[atomic abyss]

I myself completed my first LA-9 in like 3 months

[sweet delta]

People already have 3

Chinese emperors

[atomic abyss]

And before you ask, you can't cube gear researches

[sharp socket]

im gonna go gear focus again in pr7 and see where it gets me

[bold cove]

If that account aim pr7 from beginning, yes

[atomic abyss]

In the first place, new players would prio BF109G anyways

[pseudo saffron]

What’s the difference between 3 starting and 100% a node in the main chapters?

[atomic abyss]

100% is just clearing the boss X number of times

[sharp socket]

bf109 is good at medium too right

[obsidian ivy]

New ships to help me farm houstonII easier

[soft raft]

you gotta 100% before you can advance to the next stage
3* gives you extra goodies

[atomic abyss]

BF109G is just LA-9 but worse essentially

BF109 is a completely different plane

[sharp socket]

is there bf109 without g?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[wind hazel]

dejavu

[bold cove]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

There is, from IB tech boxes

[sharp socket]

[wind hazel]

the messershit

[viscid swift]

No

[atomic abyss]

It's a purple fighter that's used to craft the fockwolfe

[wind hazel]

the other shit

[atomic abyss]

Aka the previous best anti heavy fighter

FW-190A or something

[sharp socket]

so thats why you guys specify bf109g

[wind hazel]

what's the damage difference between fw and la9? if both +10

[atomic abyss]

I'm pretty sure LA-9 has an overwhelming advantage

[viscid swift]

A lot

[leaden garden]

Is this okay for a BB
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_406mm_(SK_C/34_Prototype)

[atomic abyss]

The fockwolfe was barely ahead of 1000lb fighters to begin with
The key difference is that it's a rocket

[viscid swift]

Okay, not really worth the cost

[atomic abyss]

It's farmable in this event cheeky

[eternal moth]

Damn, only 18/50 on my second LA-9. That's gonna be a while.

[viscid swift]

I would not go out of my way to farm it

[atomic abyss]

I mean if you get one in this event, sure? But it's only slightly better than the og 410

[soft raft]

Just use a purple IJN Twin 410
Similar performance for cheaper

[leaden garden]

alr thanks

[wind hazel]

it's at D3, so probably not bad for beginners

[atomic abyss]

Uh blaster

[wind hazel]

if uh... if they can farm D3...

[atomic abyss]

What purple 410 triple

[leaden garden]

i can farm it

[soft raft]

Fuck I meant Twin lol

[atomic abyss]

I'm pretty sure twin 410 Kai is better than the twin 406 skc anyways

[sweet delta]

Certainly not

[viscid swift]

No but minimal difference still

[atomic abyss]

It's not?

[sweet delta]

At the same enhance, German wins easily

[sharp socket]

gold gun difference?

[atomic abyss]

Well not like the skc is japanese anyways

[bold cove]

At least it gave alot lunch box

Should i go straight up to PR7 after i finish PR5?

[reef flume]

Judging from the datamine Rumey doesn't seem much impressive ngl

[sweet delta]

That's what people say about every new UR

[eternal moth]

Then you need to learn how to analyze ships better

[bold cove]

Dejavu like Amagi CV?

[eternal moth]

New Jersey was the first one. Was it Kimo that said she was worse than some of the golds?

[viscid swift]

Pffffffft

Vanguard is the poster child for that sort of stuff

[wind hazel]

so real

[viscid swift]

And of course the old Bristol is better than Plymouth

[eternal moth]

I mean, Vanguard herself under-performs on damage, but her RDPS more than makes up for that.

[dusk maple]

Is Fritz the new best w15 support fleet CV?

[eternal moth]

Which is why it took a while for people to figure out how good Vanguard was.

[sweet delta]

They still haven't

[south sequoia]

Is rumey any special

I feel like im missing something here

[eternal moth]

Capable of carrying 8 fighters for one thing

She also has a damage buff and slow.

[polar raft]

Anyone know what happened to the AL instagram?

[south sequoia]

Like social media or the in game one, either way question should go to #al-general

[pseudo saffron]

How do I increase my max coin storage?

[polar raft]

Social media

[eternal moth]

Level up and level your merchant

You can also get guild tech

[pseudo saffron]

Ok ty

[south sequoia]

Hipper meta looks great

15s uptime for a shield that regens every 20s

Additional damage reduction all that

Looks to be a great tank

[blissful hamlet]

Is Z52 op

[opaque galleon]

Is there a typo in the barrage data for Fritz Rumey or does she genuinely have 36+36 * 900 damage shells?

[boreal wagon]

the 900 is a sum

[slow fox]

I interpreted this as "shields die in 1 second, and then wait 19 seconds."

[opaque galleon]

I see

[slow fox]

6 bullets isn't a lot of bullets, so I don't assume that she has the EVARate buff for that long of a time.

[viscid swift]

Really doubt it

[sweet delta]

So Roon bad?

[slow fox]

Roon has always been bad. CN shieldcope worse

[plain saffron]

https://streamable.com/v7u8uo

[soft raft]

Damn that's some pretty good range

[blissful hamlet]

She sucks

[fair lance]

lol

[viscid swift]

She's dd fp

[blissful hamlet]

Who will replace plymouth if Z52 sucks

[viscid swift]

Worcester trust

[dusk maple]

why do you want to replace Plymouth?

[plain saffron]

which equip is the one that proc z52?

[blissful hamlet]

Cuz she can't replace helena

[viscid swift]

Apparently people just arbitrarily want ships gone after they last a certain period of time

[sweet delta]

Damn that's some pretty good hacking

[blissful hamlet]

I need Helena but with 100% proc

[sweet delta]

Cuz it's serenity

[opaque galleon]

Also, ANOTHER ship that wants plygun

[plain saffron]

https://streamable.com/lpydqs

[opaque galleon]

I know she’s saying “thunder heart” but I just hear Santa hat

[plain saffron]

https://streamable.com/oz3xih

[opaque galleon]

Rumey should be one of the best anti light/medium carriers thanks to the ability to equip 8 high efficiency fighters or 4 Skyraiders right?

[plain saffron]

https://streamable.com/1yatga

[bold cove]

That range is something

[crimson glacier]

Hello gamers, is ur bad

[little tree]

Always

[plain saffron]

https://streamable.com/nedjzh

[blissful hamlet]

What tech is the new ship

[little tree]

Hipper meta looks like a worse brennus

[viscid swift]

DDs are all FP, CL is +2 FP, Fritz is +2 avi

Hipper has shit tech

[blissful hamlet]

+3 DD FP

[viscid swift]

Yes

[crimson glacier]

sounds good

[proven mist]

Is it worth buying specialised cores from medal shop? @6 for 100

[plain saffron]

yes

[proven mist]

Thanks

[strong tartan]

does gravitational pull refer to bismarck zweis black hole

[kind slate]

When’s next ur?

[atomic abyss]

We don't know

[stark quiver]

maint is in 1 minutes then an 8 hour wait for servers to gp up
then its UR time

[plain saffron]

8 hours

[atomic abyss]

In about 8h

[strong tartan]

okay

[kind slate]

wtf 8 hrs??? So soon wow

[atomic abyss]

In the first place I'm not even sure why they wrote is as gravitational pull

CN puts it as pulling effect

[strong tartan]

so in theory charybdis works

[atomic abyss]

And EN too as far as I'm aware

[elfin hollow]

It would be so weird though, like zwei's black hole lasts just for 3 seconds so how the hell would rumey pair up with that

[atomic abyss]

It's a very silly slow

[barren tapir]

what pulling effects do we have besides whirlpools

[strong tartan]

zwei and charybdis only have skills that function like that

[atomic abyss]

Lala

[barren tapir]

just those 3 then?

[strong tartan]

oh right

[elfin hollow]

I guess they intended for it to work with zwei but I'm really confused how, guess we gotta wait and see

[barren tapir]

collab chads winning

[atomic abyss]

We just don't know what the game considers as pulling effect

[elfin hollow]

yeah pretty much

[barren tapir]

that loadout is pretty cool, 8 fighters

[strong tartan]

i guess since it inflicts a slow ontop of the blackhole ships that are in the blackhole no longer move around

[barren tapir]

even if you dont use her for ch15 she would be like the #1 support right

[atomic abyss]

Yeah

[crimson glacier]

isnt everything affected by gravitational pull

[barren tapir]

but does gravity exist in a 2d world

[strong tartan]

lets ask fritz

[plain saffron]

as expected it just check for tag, so the pulling skill apply that tag

[elfin hollow]

also a fun thing I noticed: z52's buff works when an off flag fires a salvo or avi and lasts for 10 seconds (+5% dmg buff) and UVH pretty much fires every 10 seconds since her reload time is halved so that's nice

[faint cloud]

the upper off flag

[crimson glacier]

that detection gauge reset or guage as the mine calls it seems nice

[plain saffron]

15090 - Whirlpool Warning?
111010 - Go Go Vacuum-Kun!

[barren tapir]

oh god theyre encouraging kms faction fleeting

[elfin hollow]

kinda lmao even rumey has a skill that works with biszwei

[plain saffron]

huh zwei doesn't count?

[faint cloud]

what about uvh on the upper one

[inland shoal]

She does

[barren tapir]

zwei + uvh + rumey + z52 faction core

throw in whatever other op vg you want

[plain saffron]

which id she use

or just dump the full tree

[elfin hollow]

I mean the best IB fleet is simple: Bis2, rumey, uvh, ägir, z52, hindenburg

[barren tapir]

ya basically

[inland shoal]

        Triggers skill voiceline
        Display skill banner: "绯暗寂灭之息"
        Fire, target: Nil: {'weapon_id': 161150}
                Bullet ID: 19709, barrage ID: 1
                WT: 1 - Dmg: 1x1x0, Shrapnel(Normal)(100/100/100), Coeff: 1, Scale: 1 FP, Speed: 300, centered, bullet range: 90, ignore Shields, ignore bomb collisions, Splits into 1 fragment:
                        Bullet ID: 19708, barrage ID: 1
                        WT: 1 - Dmg: 1x1x0, G Bullet(Torp)(100/100/100), Coeff: 1, Scale: 1 FP, Speed: 180, centered, bullet range: 1, Pierce: 1, interval: 0.2, Splash: 16, time: 3, ignore Shields, ignore bomb collisions, {'alert_duration': 0.1, 'exploDMG': 1, 'force': 0.25, 'noIntervalDMG': True}, cast Buff 200454:
                                AddTag {'tag': 'xiyinxiaoguo'} ['onAttach', 'onRemove']```

[strong tartan]

are these gear skins or are we not sure'

[barren tapir]

tho hindenburg would be middle slot imo

z52 is pretty tanky due to her constant self healing

[elfin hollow]

I like running DDs in the middle tbh

[elfin hollow]

I'm curious about this too, what even is that

[barren tapir]

mystery objects

[plain saffron]

should be skins

[elfin hollow]

skins like how amagi CV had in the shop ig?

[atomic abyss]

Z52 is 115% iirc
Or 116%

[barren tapir]

oh right she had those

yeah 115 with 100kai

hinden 3 gun is 98

[plain saffron]

refresh the page

[elfin hollow]

Well bis gear for z52 seems simple: 100kai, gold torp from the shop, UR AA gun, repair box and that USB stick that reduces range for a BB

[barren tapir]

z52 ehp also scales with gun choice, obviously it'd be a terrible idea but using single 76/113 on her raises her to 126/felix tier

her healing kinda strong

[viscid swift]

Best in slot as always is situationally dependent

[atomic abyss]

@plain saffron any idea what's her non MLB slot 2?

[plain saffron]

whose

[barren tapir]

also how good is z52 aa if buffed by z1?

[atomic abyss]

Rumey

[boreal wagon]

why do gear skins have a golden bg

[wraith ingot]

idk what im doin someone help

[atomic abyss]

Realistically, 100 kai

[barren tapir]

im aware. im just mentioning it as a fun aside, mebot posted earlier

[strong tartan]

what are you using her for? this looks fine

[boreal wagon]

i mean the lb description says dive slot

[atomic abyss]

Makes sense for the Germans ig

[plain saffron]

9 only

[boreal wagon]

well technically it says bomber but thats what cn uses for dive

[stark quiver]

+10 gear and staag AA gun

[wraith ingot]

for w11

[plain saffron]

DB

[barren tapir]

tho ngl even tho her guns is good she has a barrage every main gun fire so i think single113 memes wouldnt actually be that bad

[stark quiver]

youll be fine
if shes dying run fire extinguisher,. which she shouldnt rly be

[strong tartan]

youll be good

[atomic abyss]

I am assuming she only gets the flex slot on final LB

[wraith ingot]

can the gears be improved tho

[boreal wagon]

correct

[viscid swift]

Well yes

[atomic abyss]

Any idea about slot 3?
Always CL/AA gun?

[viscid swift]

But not practically at this point

[strong tartan]

only 2 slots where you can fit planes

[wraith ingot]

oh ok

[barren tapir]

her aoa is also good...i think? reaim is good right

100kai likely best anyway, but im definitely gonna try 113 memes just for fun and see

[plain saffron]

yes

TODO: add LB select and change slot based on that

[shell willow]

z52 blue skill 2% heal to other ship is her 2% or receiver's?

[vale spindle]

receivers 2%

[keen sable]

it's a ur indy

[turbid dawn]

What would you need 8 fighters for? Aren’t fighter generally considered the worst plane slot?

[stark quiver]

worst for what?

[turbid dawn]

Just in general right? Especially damage wise

[crimson glacier]

in general they are the best

[plain saffron]

rockets exists now

[stark quiver]

theres no in general
hvar hellcats are BIS for anti light cvs
la9s are Bis for anti medium cvs

[crimson glacier]

just in opsi torps are often better

[atomic abyss]

No

For opsi, you use them for rocket fighters, which are the best at light and medium armour DPS

[vagrant harness]

hi

[turbid dawn]

Ah I forget HVAR exists because I don’t have 1, only the LA9

[crimson glacier]

hvar isnt even that big of a deal

[crisp tree]

Is maint the usual 6 hours?

[stark quiver]

8

[crimson glacier]

usual is 8

[crisp tree]

Oh, okay

[turbid dawn]

Do you think running 8 of the German rocket fighters is good then even though you can just use HE BB?

[atomic abyss]

It'll out damage your BBs lol

The best CV comps always out damage the best BBs in most cases

The exception is when the boss has ridiculous levels of AA

Or some other gimmick

[stark quiver]

or some goofy ahh gimmicks

[atomic abyss]

Btw @plain saffron any idea what's the "on obtain" tech for the new shipfus

[plain saffron]

cheeky sent it earlier 🏃‍♂️

[turbid dawn]

I’m presuming she wouldn’t be used in CV comps though due to being a CVL loadout and timing would be near impossible?

[atomic abyss]

No it wouldn't stop her at all

In fact her reload is unusually high, while LA-9s are really slow

Well if you were using BF-109Gs, you could run into issues
But that's what the aviation manjuu and beacons are for

[turbid dawn]

Yeah I guess but with missing YorkII and Implac kinda feels bad for any anti-light CV comp

[stark quiver]

just grab your 3 mk7s and pew pew pew away

[atomic abyss]

In the first place, impla already got displaced for anti light

And yk2 rerun is like, in 3 weeks?

[stark quiver]

hold up is yk2 right after this event lol

[atomic abyss]

That's what the stream said at least

[coarse heron]

Bruh

[stark quiver]

jan 9-16

[atomic abyss]

Event is 2 weeks

[polar linden]

You guys saw the datamine already?

[coarse heron]

My wallet

[turbid dawn]

Holy my cubes, gotta hope it doesn’t take 400 like sushi did I’m down to 550

[crisp wraith]

And if schedule holds the next new UR is like in February right

[atomic abyss]

Soyuz was at the very end of Feb
Like started on the last or 2nd last day

[crisp wraith]

I see

[polar linden]

Isn't Z52 3rd skill practically gives her super heal with just the cost of 6 shot?

[atomic abyss]

No

[polar linden]

???

[atomic abyss]

2% HP isn't a super heal by any means

[stark quiver]

Wait ender so yk2 is immediately rerunning after this event ends?

[polar linden]

Ah yes sorry sorry but what I mean by that is the low cost of that heal

[atomic abyss]

The event ends on 2nd
Yk2 is 9th

You have a week to build back

[turbid dawn]

Isn’t she only 1 MGM?

[strange sphinx]

Hmmm Maintenance rn right?

[crisp wraith]

Yes

[strange sphinx]

so What's the milestone for the new event?

[crisp wraith]

8(+) hours

[atomic abyss]

You get a 1% heal for herself every about 5s yeah

[stark quiver]

It’s the mental blockade, my cubes are fine

[atomic abyss]

Milestone is Z9

[coarse heron]

That seems pretty decent

[polar linden]

Blue gun lol

[atomic abyss]

No lol

[strange sphinx]

so how many heals does Kaza do into CVs?

[atomic abyss]

Why waste the 170% main gun eff?

Kaza healing is negligible

[strange sphinx]

[cobalt rapids]

15%

[coarse heron]

Up to 8 fighters makes Fritz pretty stonks for W15

[strange sphinx]

wait we have datamine now?

[plain saffron]

yes

[strange sphinx]

ic

[coarse heron]

105 range CL gun

[strange sphinx]

fascinating

so She doesn't need AA equipment or it still depends?

[atomic abyss]

I would just use the CL gun

[coarse heron]

100% eff AA seems kind of meh
Esp since it’s a CV and they normally don’t have AA guns anyway

[atomic abyss]

Tho for metas where you won't reach the boss even with the extended range, a STAAG could be better

[coarse heron]

For campaign I’d use a CL gun on her
OpSi bosses probably Staag yeah

[atomic abyss]

But 105 is really long so

[coarse heron]

Isn’t Bismarck’s only 90?

[atomic abyss]

Exactly

[coarse heron]

She’s mailing these pipe bombs from over the horizon

[atomic abyss]

105 shd be further than half the screen

[strange sphinx]

[spring bolt]

105 is exactly odin range

[strange sphinx]

so How good is the UR DD?

[spring bolt]

kinda powercrept ply according to early estimation

[atomic abyss]

Wot

Where did that come from

[spring bolt]

CN

[atomic abyss]

Let me rephrase, what's the basis of that claim

[faint cloud]

rdps

[quartz jungle]

Is the +5% enemy damage taken that good?

[strange sphinx]

alsk shw need some fast reload dd gun right?

[atomic abyss]

100 kai

[spring bolt]

same tier dps + rdps, 1500+500
tankier than ply
better at clearing trash mob
more universal damage buff
has heal
not needing rainbow gun, not even needing +13

CN thinks she should always use 76/113

[atomic abyss]

The last claim just sounds silly

Especially with the ginormous 170% eff

[exotic wren]

i don't think any ship needs a rainbow gun

[wet badge]

Is mipper good

[atomic abyss]

Looks meh at best to me

[jaunty vault]

8 fighter rumey gonna be fire

[wet badge]

Btw should after i mlb rumey do i mlb z52 or wait for next ur

[faint cloud]

113 calculated better than 138.6

[atomic abyss]

I mean I don't think the mog gun was ever in contention

It shd be 100 Kai lol

[jaunty vault]

next UR would be 3~4 months away, should be enough time to mlb z52 AND get enough stock for next

[atomic abyss]

Our next UR is yk2
So I would be cautious

[jaunty vault]

oh right reruns

[ocean orbit]

We can buy New skins with gems? Or they just put it in bag for 30 dollars

[jaunty vault]

gems

[ocean orbit]

Alright thanks

[wet badge]

How often are urs counting reruns

[jaunty vault]

skins are always available for purchase with gems (when they're available)

[wet badge]

Whats yk2 used for

[jaunty vault]

tbh idk but expect 8 events a year

[ocean orbit]

lets say fritz event over her skin rerun coming for when generally? 1-2 years maybe

[atomic abyss]

Anti light, and up till recently, anti med

[eternal basalt]

2 months, end feb

[jaunty vault]

2+ years for ship to rerun
skin should rerun black friday

[eternal basalt]

Pass ain't

[jaunty vault]

skin would also rerun with event

[wet badge]

Should i prioritise mlbing implac over yk2

[ocean orbit]

Alright thanks for help then im buyin fritz

[atomic abyss]

I mean... Are you actually going to be using impla right now?

[wet badge]

No when she reruns

[atomic abyss]

Well it depends imo

If you have Nakhi at 30 already, I feel impla is lower priority

[wet badge]

Oh yeah i forgot abt nyakh

Isnt there 2 ur vouchers in shop

[coarse heron]

yeah, to save yourself a Bulin

[wet badge]

So i only need like 3 bulins?

[eternal basalt]

Yes, for Z52

[coarse heron]

However, 300 UR tickets is a lot of event points you could spend on other stuff

[eternal basalt]

2nd was a pain to get last events though

[coarse heron]

well if they do it the same way as Laffey II, that's still 24k event points wasted buying the extra 160 you'll need to get 2 copies just to save on one bulin

[wet badge]

What is the game talking abt when it refers to shadow ca gun

[atomic abyss]

Rumey? It's from her s2

Anyways #event-faq has been updated

[wet badge]

Ic

What can you do w 105 range

[atomic abyss]

Around, maybe slightly more than half the screen

[wet badge]

WOAH

[atomic abyss]

Same as Odin

[wet badge]

Is rumey supposed to be used w bz

[eternal basalt]

Look at your spec core. If you have 160k like me no way you go after the second store UR

[atomic abyss]

Based on the skill?
Probably

In reality? No

[gusty olive]

Would be funny if any pulling works lol

[atomic abyss]

Would be a waste to use bis2 with her

[wet badge]

True

How do i know how long my cv reloads are

Is it the torp bomber + dive bomber reload

[atomic abyss]

Barring any reload buff or equip passive, the in-game representation is accurate

[cobalt rapids]

use a calculator that accounts for everything

[atomic abyss]

Just use a calc

[wet badge]

Where

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

@wet badge

[winged abyss]

How does our Iron Blood Carrier Fritz look from her skills, is she any good? Whats she good against ? Light/Medium?

[dreamy blade]

do i need to be concerned about choosing between fritz and yk2? i only have ~340 cubes rn

[atomic abyss]

For bossing, light and med, tho she won't displace those in light

For campaign, in w15 support

[cobalt rapids]

possibly, depends on ur rng

yk2 rerun will have 44 tickets aswell tho

or how many they give

[wet badge]

Ty

[eternal basalt]

44's correct

[gusty olive]

Is CN server already up?

[winged abyss]

Ty

[faint cloud]

1 hr ago

[spring bolt]

yes, have been farming for a while

[gusty olive]

Anyone tested if Zwei's pull is the only thing that works on Rumey's slow?

[atomic abyss]

It's not

[strange sphinx]

Oh well can Fritz do the Maihou 15?

[atomic abyss]

Worse than existing options

[atomic abyss]

Bis 2 is also included

[gusty olive]

Neat

[strange sphinx]

Implac or nahk it is

[spring bolt]

fritz is anti med specialized, her anti light dps is also top tier, but for heavy armor, her dps isn't good enough for her to be top choice
z52 will see more uses in current meta

[strange sphinx]

hmmm so kaza Alternative?

[spring bolt]

wut? no...

[strange sphinx]

Z52 is the DD right or...?

[atomic abyss]

Ply alternative

Maybe Sirius alternative
Not sure if she's better than Sirius buff wise against non CL/DD tho

[vapid grotto]

When does maintenance end

[atomic abyss]

Yes, but Kaza has an incredible CV buffing skill

[spring bolt]

yeah, she replaces ply/helena/avrora/eld or whatever outside of unzen and kaza

[strange sphinx]

23:00 for global

[atomic abyss]

6h-ish

[strange sphinx]

I hope it's 21:00

[vapid grotto]

Around 16:00 then?

[atomic abyss]

Anyways sorry I have to take back what I said earlier regarding z52 best gun

I have no idea what's your timezone mate

[strange sphinx]

oof

[vapid grotto]

Oh alright

[atomic abyss]

113 beats out 100 kai

[strange sphinx]

the mog gun?

[atomic abyss]

That's twin 138.2

[strange sphinx]

oh what 113?

[faint cloud]

113 is the gold gun

[atomic abyss]

Single 113 is the gold 76

[strange sphinx]

the single British

[spring bolt]

no worries, i doubted it as well untill i ran some math

[strange sphinx]

[atomic abyss]

Substantial buff to her bulk, and substantial buff to her dmg

[strange sphinx]

Oh well I have it, in my shima though.. m

[atomic abyss]

not considering the torps every 2 AoA,
single 113 needs to fire 1.22x as much as twin 100 kai to beat it on light

Spoiler: It fires more than 1.22x faster

[strange sphinx]

that's a fast edit, ender

[gusty olive]

Which gun is single 133?

[strange sphinx]

so I only need one 113?

[atomic abyss]

Single 113 is a gear lab gun, craftable from the single 120mm

[strange sphinx]

oof English

[atomic abyss]

In the first place, it wasn't even noticeably better than the 76 for shima

[strange sphinx]

so 76 is still better for shima?

[whole crypt]

wtf is fritz's layout

[atomic abyss]

On paper, yes
In practice they're equal I'd say

The thing is, why would you craft something so expensive for equal performance

Here with z52 it's a different story ofc

[spring bolt]

yeah z52 has super high rld, so she will be able fire 113 3 times in 1 motion, so average rof will be around 0.554s/shell
while twin 100 will be 0.723 ish...
so should be 1.3x

[strange sphinx]

Oh well my mistake have some advantage I guess

[atomic abyss]

KMS went from having just 1 AA bote to having 3

[strange sphinx]

[spring bolt]

spoiler: fritz is 150% lusty in ch 15 support

[atomic abyss]

And can I also remind folks that z52 AA is only slightly worse than d30 Shimanto

Well, d30 Shimanto without her gun
So lil chesh tier ig

[whole crypt]

8 fighters pog

[atomic abyss]

Rumey has 8x 140% fighters

Lusty has 6x 130%

[blissful hamlet]

What's the final evaluation for Fritz Rumey

[strange sphinx]

Axis power really like fighters

[atomic abyss]

final

[boreal wagon]

the servers havent even opened yet how tf would anyone give a final eval

[atomic abyss]

My friend, we haven't even tested the ship in combat yet

What final eval

[eternal basalt]

in 1 hour!

[whole crypt]

what's grav pull, zwei's schtick?

[atomic abyss]

Zwei and Lala

[boreal wagon]

zwei, char and lala apparently

[dreamy blade]

char?

[whole crypt]

char?

[gusty olive]

Charybdis Niche (jk)

[atomic abyss]

Lala really became a CV buffer XD

Charybdis

[dreamy blade]

oh...but char kinda sucks right

[atomic abyss]

Kinda is an understatement

[boreal wagon]

the character everyone forgets bc shes the worst SR

[atomic abyss]

She's contender for worst SR ship

[blissful hamlet]

Lala is meta now

[willow dock]

But who is lala

[atomic abyss]

From the Collab

[gusty olive]

If you missed Lala and don't have Zwei... You're either using Charybdis or not use one at all lol

[strange sphinx]

Lala Satalin Deviluke

[atomic abyss]

Her slow isn't worth anyways

All that gimmick for just a 60% slow?

[gusty olive]

Just use Ark or Avp XD

[strange sphinx]

[gusty olive]

Or use Rumey with Eldridge (assuming u have her retro item)

[willow dock]

Is part of arks gimmick/slow loli boats?

[atomic abyss]

Like

[strange sphinx]

man I just need to get Eldrige in The shop to buy her

[atomic abyss]

Even Nakh with all her gimmicks for her freeze still has an unconditional 60% slow

[gusty olive]

Gonna take long before I get her bp lol

[strange sphinx]

Oh well I have Implac but Nakh have dmg to compensate right?

[atomic abyss]

Well, impla probably wins on heavy if a freeze is necessary

[strange sphinx]

you know, does she have Any bonus dmg on DDs on her skill?

[atomic abyss]

Cos you'd be forced to use Tash or Voro, who aren't very good against heavy

On med or light however...

[strange sphinx]

Enterprise doesn't have Anti CV in her skills right? Only the Core data Historical accurate DB?

[dreamy blade]

I actually did miss lala, don't have zwei, and have charybdis

[atomic abyss]

In all seriousness
What we predict is that Rumey will now be part of the best anti med comp

Saito, enterprise has 1 skill

A very simple one
70% chance to "deal double damage and get invul for a few seconds"

No off topic gifs pls

[winged abyss]

[opaque galleon]

The double damage I believe is an additive buff so you don’t multiply the ARA-like buffs afaik

[crisp wraith]

Med comp for Rumey should be like, Nak/Soy/Rumey or something along that line?

[atomic abyss]

That would be correct

And she would be invaluable on w15 support fleet too

I don't think she displaces any of the current w15 main fleet comps tho

[opaque galleon]

Does she not displace anyone from the light cv fleet?

[atomic abyss]

She wouldn't
Kears Yk2 Nakhi is that fearsome

[crisp wraith]

Yeah I don't see her replacing a w15 either but 8 fighters is crack on support

[atomic abyss]

The skyraider gives yk2 the advantage really

[opaque galleon]

Well that’s with 1 Skyraider right?

But we’ll get a second soon

[atomic abyss]

See here's the thing

[opaque galleon]

Can’t you replace implac tbh? You are literally running all rockets at that point

[woeful pasture]

will the update really take 8hrs or they usually finish was faster?

[strange sphinx]

what's her Historical DB again? I know it is in Core Data shop,

[atomic abyss]

Is the best light CV comp

Impla already got displaced

[crisp wraith]

They usually finish slower

Jokes aside yes 8 hours

[atomic abyss]

See here's the issue about anti light comps

[woeful pasture]

:((

[crisp wraith]

6 hours for smaller updates

[opaque galleon]

I’m not so fond of running a Tashkent or voroshilov

[atomic abyss]

If you need a freeze/slow, Nakhi is pretty much superior for anti light

If you don't need one, enterprise is just better

At least till we get another UR Essex

[opaque galleon]

Ah right, we get a second Skyraider so Enty gets buffed too lmao

[pliant acorn]

When is the UR event?

[atomic abyss]

5h 30mins

[pliant acorn]

Damnn. Thanks bro!

Goodluck on yo pull

[atomic abyss]

Well Tash DPS is quite high now with her aug so

[spring bolt]

cheers, fast chibi movement in farming mode when moving grids

[opaque galleon]

I like high AA vanguards for cv fleets

[sharp socket]

tash is quite alright for gun DD with aug

[opaque galleon]

Practically every light armored boss sends some planes

[atomic abyss]

That's why you have Guam and Laff2

Or now, we even have z52 as an option

[dreamy blade]

for a new player does it look like fritz has more value than yk2?

[atomic abyss]

For a new player, z52 has more use than Rumey lol

[opaque galleon]

Yeah but you’ll also want Sirius or Aurora, and possibly Plymouth for kearsarge

[dreamy blade]

Yes I'm quite happy about z52

[crisp wraith]

Z52 looks like you can put her anywhere

[opaque galleon]

So you end up with not so much room for Tashkent

[dreamy blade]

I was looking forward to yk2 rerun since I don't have anything for anti light, but I'll need to get lucky on fritz to have the cubes for both

[atomic abyss]

I mean sure... Just note that Nakhi damage with Tash is noticeably higher than impla...

[opaque galleon]

Yeah, I believe she loses like 20% of her damage by not running Tashkent

[atomic abyss]

In my opinion, yk2 over rumey

[strange sphinx]

finally, more faster farming

[atomic abyss]

But I would roll for rumey still anyways

[dreamy blade]

do new UR events come with 44 build tickets too?

[opaque galleon]

No

[atomic abyss]

Only reruns

Hence why it's better to go all in for rumey

[dreamy blade]

are there any tickets

[atomic abyss]

Only reruns get them

[left cedar]

so Rumy is shit ?

[opaque galleon]

Not for this one

[strange sphinx]

[atomic abyss]

This might blow your mind

But niche doesn't mean shit

[opaque galleon]

No, one of the best anti medium/light

[left cedar]

kinda expected of KMS, but dissapointing

[atomic abyss]

[dreamy blade]

dang alright

[atomic abyss]

If anything, z52 is surprisingly good

And Rumey was... Kinda what we expected?

[shell willow]

you can get a lot of cubes in a month so unless you are on like 0 rn then you can prolly get both considering the rerun has tickets also

[opaque galleon]

Bro is sad when ship is bad and sad when ship is good

[strange sphinx]

[obsidian ivy]

If anything I'm just sad cuz of bulin backlog

[opaque galleon]

Why is z52 “surprisingly good”?

[dreamy blade]

I currently have 340 cubes

[atomic abyss]

For me I'm most amused by the fact that the Germans went from just having nurnburg to AA
To getting an 8 fighter CV and a destroyer that AAs better than Juneau

[dreamy blade]

Rerun only lasts 1 week tho right?

[shell willow]

i think u got it

[atomic abyss]

Surprisingly tanky, surprisingly high DPS, surprisingly good debuffer

[strange sphinx]

Oh well I only need Skyraider cause I have YK2 already also HVAR also gonna be there or no?

[opaque galleon]

Not as tanky as Laffey surely

[atomic abyss]

Ofc not

[spring bolt]

they changed how normal/hard works, now you can do next stage in the line with previous stage cleared in any difficulty, for example, you can clear a1 and next move on to clear c2

[atomic abyss]

CN's cooking places her as "powercreeps Plymouth in some areas"

[opaque galleon]

I mean, I think it’s more like a mini vanguard buff than a plybuff

[dreamy blade]

Is there any new gear from this event?

[atomic abyss]

No

[slow fox]

Does clearing A1 give you clearing rewards for C1?

[crisp wraith]

So you can like, do a1-b2 then jump to d3?

[spring bolt]

i think a1 and c1 still share same clearing reward so yes

[slow fox]

o

[turbid dawn]

Are we expecting Z52 to take the role of Ply or to be added in a fleet with her for even more buffs?

[crisp wraith]

Nice

[atomic abyss]

The latter imo

[sweet delta]

imo she will be ply's equivalent for CV fleets

tanky dps smallbuff

[gilded carbon]

What good does a CVL's gun-slot do? Aside from shooting blanks at suicide-ships

[spring bolt]

c3 still has some special clearing mission so i guess you will need to 3 star it anyway

[atomic abyss]

Nothing

[plain saffron]

That's all

[gilded carbon]

Ok then.

[atomic abyss]

The CL gun slot is really the biggest sin of Rumey

[crisp wraith]

It looks funny and that's about it.

Does she even have “decent” FP stat?

[soft dagger]

ply?

[gilded carbon]

Just give her an AA-gun then?

[crisp wraith]

Plymouth

[atomic abyss]

At the end of the day, the part that matters is the CA ghost gun anyways

[soft dagger]

oh equivalent fuck me

[opaque galleon]

Yeah, I mean it’s not bad…

[sharp socket]

is the event the new style where you only need to clear stages once for full clear

[atomic abyss]

#event-faq smh

[faint cloud]

rumey's gun dps seems to have around 900?

[spring bolt]

yes, one clear and it's done

[opaque galleon]

But it is just 1 middling efficiency cl gun, technically she’d want a plygun still though I think

[crisp wraith]

I have gathered the willpower to look at the spreadsheet and I have to say I did not expect her FP to break 200.

[sharp socket]

event faq channel not dead for once

[boreal wagon]

i wasnt dead for collab either smh

[turbid dawn]

I mean won't the spread of the CL gun also suck for things like bossing especially with being so far back?

[spring bolt]

my fritz at lv70 mlb has 171 fp when fully enhanced, so i guess not bad

[opaque galleon]

Possibly, idk, if so then you just use one of the 0 spread German cl guns

[dark bolt]

maint again bruh

[atomic abyss]

New UR event, ofc there's maint

[dark bolt]

not usually 2 days in a row

[sharp socket]

[sweet delta]

[boreal wagon]

there was no maint yesterday but sure

[sweet delta]

bro time traveled 6 days

[dark bolt]

guess my game was sabod then

[crisp wraith]

Clearly dude is in a higher plane of dimension than us

[dark bolt]

tried to get taihou meta then maint message

[dreamy blade]

that can happen if your connection drops but restarting fixes it

[dark bolt]

nice bait

[spring bolt]

oh one more thing, new switch for difficulty is moved here
took me 3 minutes to find it lol

[opaque galleon]

Ew

[boreal wagon]

we had this in a previous event i forgot which one tho

i think it mightve been strasbourg?

[left cedar]

So Hipper is kinda Agir but more consistent to 20s ... mebot already made calcs for new ships ?

[spring bolt]

yeah i think i saw it once but it was gone for the following event

[boreal wagon]

ye

[atomic abyss]

Hipper META is barely tankier than port

Z52 is tankier than her by a long shot

[sharp socket]

iirc mebot calcs put her at 106%

[atomic abyss]

He did yes

[left cedar]

but 30% slow and -5% Eva is quite a debuff for BBs

[atomic abyss]

Eva

Not Eva rate

[left cedar]

still helps BBs

[sweet delta]

for 4 seconds, every 20s which AFCT misses

[opaque galleon]

It’s not very big of a buff

[atomic abyss]

Also, Eldridge exists

Also Agir has armour break

And both of them are actually tanky

[opaque galleon]

Imaging being in December 2024 and still coping for agir’s slow

[atomic abyss]

Hipper meta is unfortunately destined to fall to the recesses of meh CAs

[dreamy blade]

what about the other new SR ships?

[atomic abyss]

Unless mebot made a significant mistake in his calc

[left cedar]

i kinda doubt on that

[opaque galleon]

What’s the ehp on Duisburg?

[atomic abyss]

94%

[opaque galleon]

Wow, even with eva rate buff huh

[dreamy blade]

looks like the eva buff just makes up for the middling luck stat

[coarse heron]

Admiral Haaah Meta is still a bad ship
classic

[winged abyss]

So, Rumey and Z52 it is for actual gameplay and the others for shipfu gathering

[dreamy blade]

can the fighters from her crossfleet intercept?

[uneven cave]

Does this mean Rumey is kinda banished to w15 support if you have every other ship

[opaque galleon]

No I believe she is still one of the best at anti-medium fleets alongside nahkimov and soyuz

[dreamy blade]

kinda, but she is kinda insane for w15 support

[winged abyss]

Now that I think about it, if Rumey is Medium top Tier, would she equip double bf109g with no intercept ?

[opaque galleon]

La-9

[winged abyss]

We are poor, we dont have that luxury

[left cedar]

91/50 La-9 here

[winged abyss]

[opaque galleon]

Work on it

[winged abyss]

Whats the Alternative for La9

[strange sphinx]

[left cedar]

Bf-109g

[opaque galleon]

I would say bf109g but it’s not a comparison

[dark bolt]

small indie company bug 😄

[winged abyss]

Yea, have quite a lot to farm

[opaque galleon]

But yeah, you would need like 4 +13 la-9s to fill out the anti-medium fleet

[left cedar]

btw, wut is that things on 2000 points rewards ? gear skins ?

[left cedar]

Bf109g still have AA Guns, if crossfleet fire AA Guns i dont have that info

[dreamy blade]

[soft dagger]

i wont be thinking intercept when talking bf109g either

[left cedar]

dont get so much in details ... cuz the question isnt about that

[soft dagger]

maybe my shit english acting up again

[sweet delta]

Crossfleet planes are directly launched one time anyways, they're not actual weapons

[left cedar]

but they fire they AA Guns once lauched ?

i'm actually interested on this, cuz idk

[sweet delta]

If they have aa guns then yes

[left cedar]

arigathanks

[left cedar]

oops, bad reading skills, ignore

[ebon storm]

How good are the new urs?

[left cedar]

Z52 seens all around, good on bosses and mobs, work as buffer for CVs and BBs, can be stacked with Ply or ARAs, so is mostly locked to bosses cuz this uses ...

rumy i wont make any comment about...

[opaque galleon]

Okay what’s going on here? Why are there so many people dooming on rumey?

[sweet delta]

"8 planes and not amagi level efficiency"

[undone plover]

Wouldnt say dooming
Just hard to say until she is tested
She is pretty unique as far as CV go

[left cedar]

UR CV with 8 planes for me is a HUGE joke

[opaque galleon]

Bruh, Amagi powercrept hakuryuu with 8 planes

[undone plover]

I would take 8 fighters with 140% eff over a lot of 9 plane loadouts tbh

[sweet delta]

Smh my head even a purpleCV has 9 planes amiright

[undone plover]

She is probably not going to be competitive for heavy armor but who is with amagi and nano

[opaque galleon]

I mean the mandatory fighter slot kinda guarantees that

It does mean you can go far in light and medium tho

[undone plover]

La9 is pretty good vs heavy tbf but still not close to TB level

[winged abyss]

We can only hope Rumey will be pretty strong

[warm flax]

So BBV ur is not true?

[left cedar]

Kea: Wut, i'm a joke to u ?

[warm flax]

I thought IB ur is one lol

[inner delta]

your coma should be after wut

[grizzled sundial]

Unless they pull an UR rocket plane out of nowhere.

[wind hazel]

Just for the record, edit was to put in their name

[warm flax]

Understandable

[left cedar]

and wrong one, cuz that Lem... is french one

[grizzled sundial]

What people call her ? Fritz ? Rumey ?

[left cedar]

i'm going for Rumy

cuz imo sounds better and prettier than Fritz

btw its Fritz Rumey

and of course 1 letter less

[wind hazel]

Calling her fr fr

[spring bolt]

well I was there in the live stream channel, out of nowhere people started saying she's bbv, even the kanji says carrier

[winged abyss]

BBV sounded much better

[rapid grail]

is JP maint 8 hours

[desert hound]

So after reading the new UR CV skills, what do you fine gentlemen think about how good she is? That being Fritz

[wet badge]

thats what im saying

[crisp wraith]

Tear apart medium armor boss with those 8 fighter slots, should be good vs light as well

Also great on W15 support

[spring bolt]

she wants 2 la9

[crisp wraith]

I also want 2 la9

Make that 4 actually lmao

[rapid grail]

bis in w15 support cv fleet with 8 fighters
Lusty class and Implac could never (only 6 fighters)
also soulds like a decent option against light and good against medium armor, paired with BisZwei in particular

[soft dagger]

6

[rapid grail]

they saw the Yk2n Kear matchup and thought "we germans should copy them"

@soft dagger yeah, saw the announcement. waiting for 8m left before extension

[inner delta]

you don't really need to pair her with biz for ST bossing, running actual triple cv is prolly gonna be better

[spring bolt]

bis2 cv buff is crossfleet

[inner delta]

no i mean the blackhole increasing the slow %

30 to 60

if crossfleet then it's kinda doomed for meta and such

[spring bolt]

ik, im just saying the best way to pair bis2 with fritz is to put them in 2 fleets in most cases

[inner delta]

yeye

[spring bolt]

current meta still feels like amagi after sale service tbh

[inner delta]

ya

even the comp is most likely stay the same just vg change

[jaunty vault]

[soft dagger]

nope its up

[shadow yarrow]

Does z52 outtank napoli

[spring bolt]

no, not going to happen
she will be very close in correct environment but won't be able to outtank nap
in most cases, you see her as laffey2+ tankiness, with less AA but more dps, and more suitable for contents outside ch 15 than laffey2/guam

[frank pulsar]

is it just me or does rumey look kinda weak for ur cv?

outside of light

[kind needle]

Did operation convergence alr had a rerun?

[spring bolt]

wut? she's no1 med, no2 light, how is that weak...

[frank pulsar]

8 plane, skills dont look like theyre good
i guess i just have bad judgement then

[spring bolt]

high plane eff fixes plane number issue
the real issue is: 2 la9
compared to z52 who only needs a 76 to function

[frank pulsar]

yikes
i have only one and i didnt even +13 it yet

[bold cove]

Seem like a ceiling to use her at max potential

[ember totem]

are we really doing the 8 plane comment again after Amagi CV?

[shadow yarrow]

Whos this

[opaque galleon]

Z52 for real outtanks laffey2?

[spring bolt]

a guide maker, who makes old cn tier list but he didn't do it any more
well in the right stage, yes, but high hit enemy will hurt her as she relies on eva a lot, so not always nap level

[frank pulsar]

high eva, dmg reduction, self healing, i can see her having high ehp while having decent dmg

[opaque galleon]

I mean I can maybe see 130%, but that’s not as tanky as agir or anything

[soft raft]

Nope

[wet badge]

whats next ijn rerun

[tropic parcel]

what's the current tankiness ranking? agir then brest/napoli?

[spring bolt]

no announcement yet

[forest palm]

we know Yorktown is comin up after Fritz

[left cedar]

depends ... bullet hell Nap > Agir > brest
AA Heavy Content Nap > Brest > Agir ( not sure here )
W15/W14 Nap > Brest >>> Agir (Too much TRP Dmg and Agir is Heavy wut make them hurt more)

[tropic parcel]

oh i see but agir still favored due to utility i imagine?

[left cedar]

Agir have a Armor break and a slow to BBs ... wut make her quite a thing for BB Fleets at least in Op.Si, but still doable in Campaign for bosses even TRPs hurting her more in W14/W15

and yeah, still quite a chonky ship, so yeah, a tank with decent dmg and some support skills

[tropic parcel]

also iirc the next ur ijn rerun is unzen

[left cedar]

w8 4 cheeky to confirm, my memory for this things are shitty, and this probally gona take at least 6months

[jaunty vault]

hello guys are new ship good or skip

[sterile jolt]

Need some tests

[tropic parcel]

Y2 was the last UR even of 22, then implacable and unzen after that

[jaunty vault]

[sterile jolt]

Also ur is good in any ways, other is... Normal?

[tropic parcel]

roll for the ur, if you have a full dock the rest of the ship is ok to solid for these events

[jaunty vault]

why asking me

[midnight sable]

usually UR Ships end up on the S+ tiers so it´s not wrong to pull. if you collect Ironbloods it´s obv. must pull though

[tropic parcel]

early impressions is that she'll be really, really strong vs light and medium

[midnight sable]

I myself collected 400+ cubes for the event but I collect Ironbloods

[jaunty vault]

not ironblood fan and i have like 30 cubes so I'm contemplating whether pull or save

[sterile jolt]

Cuz it depends on what you actually have now. For me they for collection only, maybe you need someone of them

[tropic parcel]

yeah with 30 cubes is going to be tough lol

[sterile jolt]

We have datamine already, you can just read skills and decide

[midnight sable]

30 cubes are probably a skip. even within the event period you get 30 pulls max which might be wasted

I mean I had 2 one pull URs so far so it´s not impossible

[undone plover]

U forgot zwei

[jaunty vault]

what is datamine

[tropic parcel]

she doesn't seem like the most generally good carrier compared to existing options so maybe skip and focus on the free ur who looks like a more general use vanguard ship

[vale spindle]

id pull

[sterile jolt]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRkVRcWUfFeAY8y_fpLkJ4iqbTPcE6rrfx88vlzjENb0zQxXqjhVhH0Uey45girQAOeNfih8cQjZVS8/pubhtml#

[undone plover]

I wouldnt advise ppl to skip before she is properly tested
Getting new UR is always worth as a default

[vale spindle]

you always go for the limited time UR

[tropic parcel]

just do the daily 3 rolls and if you get her great, otherwise save for the next one

[plain saffron]

or continue pulling until you get her

[velvet slate]

yeh go ahead and skip a UR character from a 1st impression, if the people tell you to skip her are wrong you will only have to wait 2 years for a Rerun 🤣

[tropic parcel]

i mean its not like there's a lack of options for really strong ur carriers that aren't limited right now

[plain saffron]

then come back in few month here and complaint then blame gph

[spring bolt]

she is now no.2 light boss dps and no.1 med boss damage, which means we don't have this kind of cv that is not limited

[elfin hollow]

so what seems to be the best gun for z52? 100 Kai or?

[forest palm]

when Fritz is the best support CV for world 15

[spring bolt]

76/113

[forest palm]

is 52's damage primarily barrage, or torpedo?

[elfin hollow]

I see, is the 100 Kai one good on her at least?

[spring bolt]

76 and 113 are so cheap and have better effect on her, no point using 100 kai which is much more expensive

[undone plover]

Is she better than nakhimov vs medium

[spring bolt]

yes, and not slightly
CN dps chart says nakh 4500 and fritz 4800

[elfin hollow]

I got shit ton of materials so I just don't like using blue gear on UR ships ig

[sterile jolt]

Torpedo ig cuz she have 120 fp with no fp buffs and mgm only 1

[undone plover]

Is that nakhimov with her crit dmg buff?

[spring bolt]

then just use 113, it's gold

[spring bolt]

s1 barrage > aoa > torp i think

[elfin hollow]

Alright. Though is the difference in usefulness too big between 113 and 100kai or small? just curious

[sterile jolt]

Oh no +15% fp for her, sorry

[urban grail]

Speaking of nyakhimov, how good is she? Busted ?

[spring bolt]

will not be huge but using 100 kai will also affect her ehp, as fast gun will proc heals more

[sterile jolt]

Yes, like every ur CV

[elfin hollow]

alright thank you for the info

[spring bolt]

you can kinda brain dead using nakh+soyuz+X for all opsi/meta boss unless boss has a gimmick

[urban grail]

[novel condor]

just 3 pulls daily coop, limited URs r worth to have tbh

[jaunty vault]

gimme your cubes

[forest palm]

will a boot do?

[novel condor]

I have only 100 coobs wdym

I gib when servers r up maybe

[jaunty vault]

[forest palm]

2 hour struggle bus waiting

[crisp tree]

We're going to get free pulls right? Since it's a new event

[left cedar]

Tickets its for Rerun

[crisp tree]

Hwbdbwabvfwg, Well, time to place all my luck on my 50 cubes

[elfin hollow]

so since rumey has one fighter slot and one flexible slot, is there any recommendation which planes to put on her?

[inner delta]

for campaign or

[stoic forge]

fastest way to get ur bulin?

[warm river]

depends on what is available to you. The beginner ur bulin missions, the 1,5 monthly shop bulins, the bulin from ur event point collection are all contenders for this imo

[forest palm]

there isn't really a fast way it's all gonna take a fair amount of time

[stoic forge]

i have 2 ur waiting for the bulins

[rose cosmos]

160 cubes, me so cooked

[elfin hollow]

opsi

[atomic abyss]

Opsi bossing? 8 fighters

[elfin hollow]

Alright, so basically 2 LA's?

[atomic abyss]

Mobbing? You're forced to use fighter+DB if not mlb

[elfin hollow]

She's gonna hit 125 level instantly the moment game goes up

[undone plover]

Which converging TB are worth +13 now with Vit-2 being more common

[atomic abyss]

All of them are

[undone plover]

So 2 of each?

[atomic abyss]

You +13 the ones you're actually using

[undone plover]

Yeah fair

[clever lance]

Wow they weren’t kidding about 8 hours

[elfin hollow]

wdym doubt bruh 💀 I got 3k of those level enhancement things

[clever lance]

Are the UR chars from the event any good?

[elfin hollow]

yes both of them are