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atomic abyss
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if you already retrofit her, grab her augment and watch her destroy planes in campaign

tame jungle
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she reaches max potential with both -_-

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if you can spare the coins for that augment yeah it's an incredible investment, you'll probably want her maxed at some point anyway

fair nimbus
inland shoal
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I'm just saying imo you can get her aug earlier and use her until you can afford the retro
No reason to delay getting the aug just cuz her retro is expensive

atomic abyss
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well, if you were in 2018 she's bad

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well it's not 2018 anymore

tame jungle
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really?

atomic abyss
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i mean, sandy got her retro in Aug 2019 for EN

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for JP/CN, a few months earlier iirc?

inland shoal
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Ok boomer

atomic abyss
tame jungle
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just a bit of backreading

tame jungle
inland shoal
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Star sth it's called
Just tap her 6th equip slot and you should see

atomic abyss
fair nimbus
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ah ok thanks

tame jungle
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easiest way to craft is to go to sandy then click the augment slot (round slot in gear at the bottom) then it should be highlighted

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or well, not highlighted but the only gold augment available

bold cove
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Hmm, im just chilling in w12 but my sandy already retro and had augment, does she still good on w13 and above?

atomic abyss
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she is the best in the game at AA so yes

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w13 and w15 have even more planes than w12

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well, even w14 does, tho plane isnt the focus there

bold cove
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Okay, good to hear, i thought her kinda outdated

atomic abyss
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they just buffed her, so she is even more relevant than she was before for campaign

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admittedly, she is mostly irrelevant outside campaign

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cos planes are a non-issue everywhere else

bold cove
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Well, farming stage is for w12 and w13, so there is limited reward on w14 and w15 outside clear mission?

atomic abyss
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not really

coarse heron
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15 requires top ships
14 besides New Orleans farming in 14-4 is "why bother?"

atomic abyss
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it's the same old gems for 3*-ing
everything else are collection ships

leaden garden
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Is accepting the 8 and 12 hours research better than taking multiple 1:30 and 2:30 hour

coarse heron
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No

inland shoal
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Some ppl farm 14-1 or 15-1 cuz they're poor in cog chips

atomic abyss
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absolutely not, those are shit

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they're only worth if you're absolutely broke i suppose

leaden garden
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Alr thanks

coarse heron
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quite the opposite, in fact
there is a niche usage in taking the 8 and 12 hour but they aren't very relevant

inland shoal
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8h can be okay if it's a face research, but the free researches are bad

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Only take them if otherwise you'd run out of queue or you cannot afford anything else

atomic abyss
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he's prolly talking about the free ones

coarse heron
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there's basically 1 modern relevant usage to the free 8 and 12 hour research: You know you're not gonna have access to the game for several days and want to pad out the research queue, in which case their increased time cost doesn't matter

wind hazel
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🥹 or you're a newbie with 500 coin left

leaden garden
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Nah i just thought the more hours it takes the more rewards i get

coarse heron
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used to be you'd take a basic research before maintenance if one came up, since the time cost didn't matter
queueing makes that unnessecary

coarse heron
leaden garden
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Ohh

coarse heron
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like the 6hr Basic has the same rewards as a 1hr Rigging Analysis
it's a very poor trade unless you understand what you're doing

leaden garden
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Thanks guys that helps alot

wind hazel
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check out /research

atomic abyss
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for memphis only, so trash

vestal glen
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im wondering, is the twin 203 gun good or not?

atomic abyss
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the other half are triple 203

vestal glen
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haizz i forgot its in inches, i meant the german SK C/34

left cedar
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pretty much all CA Guns are 203mm ... twin or tri ... so yeah, better specify

atomic abyss
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thats not the point

coarse heron
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every CA gun is a 203mm

left cedar
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Eugen gun so, decent option

atomic abyss
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it's fine, esp as a povery option

left cedar
boreal wagon
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283 is infact a CB gun

vestal glen
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hmm kinda useless for me rn tho, i dun have any1 using CA guns......oh wait.....

atomic abyss
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portland

vestal glen
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if thats the only gold one i have i use it?

left cedar
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u should have Portland if u are a begginer or Ancho if u are mid/late game

vestal glen
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fair T_T

rain hearth
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i just got bataan from merit!
she's good right?

vestal glen
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i forgot portland was a CA essentially

left cedar
atomic abyss
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bataan is ok all things considered, esp for a purple
she has rld tech

rain hearth
atomic abyss
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...are you seriously asking if a ship is good if their voiceline says they're good?

vestal glen
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its called the delusional deception

rain hearth
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i assumed...
btw how much is your rld tech?

atomic abyss
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mine is at 29 iirc

rain hearth
strange sphinx
atomic abyss
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120
mlb doesnt give stats

atomic abyss
rain hearth
uneven cave
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no

atomic abyss
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with rld tech

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without

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that's what about 30 rld tech does for CVs

boreal wagon
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if it was insignificant the community wouldn't have asked for tech to be adjustable (because it used to not be)

rain hearth
atomic abyss
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1.5s sounds small
until you realise that it can make the difference between launching 4 airstrikes or 3 airstrikes

rain hearth
boreal wagon
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i was saying that tech is not insignificant and gave an example as to what proves that

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said example being that until a few years ago you could not decrease the stats you gain from tech like you can now

rain hearth
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i didn't understand adjustable thing

plain saffron
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You can decrease the stats
People want to bcs timing

whole crypt
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it's not always how much time you gain, RLD tech is significant for hitting specific timings

rain hearth
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how

wind hazel
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lab>fleet technology>details>toggle bonuses

whole crypt
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max and 0 tech

half wasp
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when is the kms event coming?

boreal wagon
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this thursday (aka tmr)

whole crypt
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"tomorrow"

rain hearth
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can those trash reaction guys receive a ban?

atomic abyss
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no

rain hearth
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they just want to ruin it for everyone

vestal glen
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trash reaction?

rain hearth
atomic abyss
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not relevant to this channel

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just ignore them

rain hearth
vestal glen
vale spindle
atomic abyss
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we dont take action against such people no

vale spindle
atomic abyss
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otherwise we'd have to clean up every single fucking post

left cedar
rain hearth
atomic abyss
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yes i would mind

rain hearth
atomic abyss
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dont fucking bother with trolls

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the moment you call them out you lose lol

rain hearth
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i see
well as long as everyone hates them

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thanks for the advice

fair nimbus
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What should i change?

atomic abyss
fair nimbus
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🥹

atomic abyss
fair nimbus
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To like what exactly I'm not good at this

atomic abyss
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at minimum

fair nimbus
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What website is that?

atomic abyss
rain hearth
fair nimbus
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Oh

atomic abyss
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it's a meh rainbow gun

rain hearth
atomic abyss
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there are no good gold BB guns from tech boxes

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that's the first issue

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the twin 380 and quad 356 are trash

sharp socket
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...four tongued british gun?

atomic abyss
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quad 356

rain hearth
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i still got a warning after all that
i thought we came to an understanding

atomic abyss
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why the fuck are you complaining here

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i mean you did it already, before you asked MurmWat

fair nimbus
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Welp I never really grind operation sirent

atomic abyss
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if that's the case

rain hearth
atomic abyss
fair nimbus
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I log in everyday just to do commission and daily raids😞

atomic abyss
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all non opsi options

fair nimbus
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Ok thanks

atomic abyss
mild crest
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i thought purple confetti gun is bad or am i just relying on outdated boomer info?

atomic abyss
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there's no such thing as a purple confetti gun

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only the gold one is a confetti gun

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@mild crest

mild crest
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ohhh

atomic abyss
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it's not even boomer info, it's just wrong info

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purple one is an actually good gun

mild crest
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can you post what the confetti gun looks like i may have just confused it for something else

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i did see that a lot of gear got diff icons now

rain hearth
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it should have hive or something in bullet type

mild crest
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i see, so gold = confetti & bad, purple is good

atomic abyss
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yes

fair nimbus
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I don't get it why the purple better tho

atomic abyss
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they have different ammo types

boreal wagon
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bc the golden version shatters into a million bullets (not literally) that basically all miss

fair nimbus
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Oh

left cedar
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~~Helldiver and Mk6 being purple and getting surpassed only by Rainbows ~~

hallow mountain
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Trying to farm for Aegir and I need another destroyer who should I build

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it's been like 2 years

atomic abyss
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how about wait for the upcoming event

hallow mountain
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what

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there's a new event?

atomic abyss
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there's a german event in like a day

rain hearth
hallow mountain
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wtf i've been wasting my cubes trying to get Kashino

atomic abyss
rain hearth
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and the new ur cv looks awesome

hallow mountain
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Kashino got me back into the game

atomic abyss
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well this is why you dont roll outside events

tawdry topaz
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how good is Napoli compared to Guam?

hallow mountain
atomic abyss
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napoli is noticeably tankier
thats all

hallow mountain
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oh well it's fine I have like 100 cubes

atomic abyss
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guam has her own use as an AA carry as well as a tank

fair nimbus
hallow mountain
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problem is I have like 500 coins

atomic abyss
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100 isnt enough tho

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you need 400 to guarantee a UR

hallow mountain
tawdry topaz
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Wont bother doing w15 ShiSleep

rain hearth
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i only have 313 cubes

fair nimbus
atomic abyss
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go farm some coins then

left cedar
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techinically 6 cubes is enough ... just get luck enough to

fair nimbus
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Only 1% chance AkashiEatGem

hallow mountain
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what are the chances I could get the UR

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is the new UR a destroyer?

boreal wagon
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there are 2 URs a CV (gacha) and a DD (basically free from the event shop)

fair nimbus
hallow mountain
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just did and I got Shimikaze

atomic abyss
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well that's quite useless

vestal glen
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bruh.....

mild crest
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that cube count makes me want to cry

hallow mountain
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what should I do with her

dreamy blade
lament ledge
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how do i get more specialized cores i want that bulin so badly

atomic abyss
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stop using her

hallow mountain
atomic abyss
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she's not max stars, so she's trash

hallow mountain
lament ledge
boreal wagon
atomic abyss
fair nimbus
boreal wagon
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the second UR wont be pullable tho

atomic abyss
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only one of them is gacha

fair nimbus
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Oh mb

atomic abyss
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also, why do you even need so many destroyers?

boreal wagon
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the DD is basically free if you just play the event

hallow mountain
atomic abyss
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but why?

boreal wagon
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though, there will probably be a pinned message here explaining how all of that works some time tomorrow

hallow mountain
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Aegir farm

atomic abyss
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dont use a destroyer then?

hallow mountain
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im on hard mode

atomic abyss
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you cant even farm campaign hard mode for exp

hallow mountain
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wtf damn

atomic abyss
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it's 3x a day max

hallow mountain
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oh ok

atomic abyss
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you're not getting any noticeable amount of exp from just 3 runs a day

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just build a proper fleet and grind

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like eugen, z23, leipzig

boreal wagon
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also worth pointing out that her second cdc isnt vanguard ships anymore

atomic abyss
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wasnt it her first that's main fleet

boreal wagon
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one of the two, idr

atomic abyss
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first is main, second is vanguard

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the exp collecting part of PR unlocking

hallow mountain
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yeah what is cdc

wind hazel
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combat data collection? or something

whole crypt
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combat data collection

hallow mountain
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oh right

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sorry it's been a while since i played but how exactly should i farm for Aegir

wind hazel
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in CDC1 you use mainfleet ironblood to grind 1.2m exp

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CDC2 you use vanguard ironblood to grind 2.4m exp

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the rest is self explanatory

fair nimbus
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Any other ways to get cognitive array other than munition or events

wind hazel
mild crest
fair nimbus
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Ok thanks

coarse heron
whole crypt
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one time rewards from faction tech and late campaign

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somethingsomething don't worry too much about arrays in the long run

coarse heron
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You still shouldn't use them on ships you don't plan to use in W14 and W15

whole crypt
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which is exactly why there's no need to worry about them in the long run, they're not necessary outside of ships you'll use in the hardest content

rain hearth
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so i took your advice
previously i was using 1 main 3 van for mob
but now i will use 1 main and 3 van for mob in w10
but they will have an average level of 100
will that work

whole crypt
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depends on your choice of ships, skill levels and gear

sharp socket
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who recommended you to use 1 main 3 van for mob Ehhssex

novel condor
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Ehhssex esp for pushing campaign

whole crypt
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1 main 3 vg is fine if you're trying to save oil, assuming the ships make it

rain hearth
rain hearth
whole crypt
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it's going to be a bit of luck hoping you don't lose Unicorn to suicide boats

rain hearth
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my previous ones had avg level of 65

rain hearth
wind hazel
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BacheScared what is this cursed recommendation

whole crypt
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if you're going to manual it then whatever, the assumption is auto

rain hearth
wind hazel
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only takes one failure to kiss all the oil goodbye

whole crypt
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if you manual god can maybe just 1:1 with Unicorn and Z23 for saving oil ShiSleep

wind hazel
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especially w10 w11 where you're facing suicide boats

rain hearth
wind hazel
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forget about saving oil if you're pushing content, that's the golden rule

whole crypt
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just fuck the XP you're wasting time and oil doing it in ch10

rain hearth
rain hearth
whole crypt
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125 Unicorn dies all the same when you leak suicide boats

left cedar
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the huggest waste of time and potential i already see is farming W10 and W9 ...

atomic abyss
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oil:exp ratio in w10 is shit

rain hearth
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i am not farming
i have just completed 9-4

atomic abyss
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and that fleet is not gonna cut out for w10 anyways

left cedar
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so make a 3:3 fleet, push faster and harder u can

whole crypt
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you're not saving a lot of oil trying to push in that formation

rain hearth
whole crypt
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if you don't want to go full fleets 2:2 might be safer

atomic abyss
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void, im pretty sure i told you this like yesterday or the day before

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there's a big jump from w9 to w10

whole crypt
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it's not like hipper is doing anything in that fleet, drop her and add a BB/BC to deal with boats

wind hazel
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MurmWat stop recommending people to 1:3 or 2:2 whatever shit to save oil, especially to people who knows very little about the game (no offense)

whole crypt
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you can probably get by autoing on that

atomic abyss
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no BB means you die from suicide boats
or enemy BBs shooting at your backline

rain hearth
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i have a monarch

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she seems pretty good at boats

atomic abyss
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is she dev 30?

whole crypt
wind hazel
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and risk being unable to clear, for what?

rain hearth
whole crypt
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but that is based on the assumption you don't do stupid things like not bring a BB to ch10/11

atomic abyss
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just bring your 2 full fleets and clear the content

rain hearth
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ok...

whole crypt
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I mean if you're sure you can clear without full fleets go ahead
if you're not sure go with a full fleet and you can reduce based on the overkill

rain hearth
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btw
is that cb elite gun for Deutschland good?

whole crypt
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otherwise once you lose all the oil spent on the run is wash

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I'd just use a standard CA gun for Deutschland

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the 283 is nice against shields but not for much else

rain hearth
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ok?
the weak one is for mob
that's uni invisible

whole crypt
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NJ or Colorado should be flag for that one

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and I'd put Deutschland in the middle if you really want to bring her

rain hearth
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oops
accidentally kept Deutschland

mild crest
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is it safe for Enty to be flagship?

whole crypt
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Monarch is underleveled and not MLB, I'd really just move Colorado to mob and use something else on boss fleet

wind hazel
whole crypt
mild crest
whole crypt
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mostly only for 12 and 13

mild crest
whole crypt
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14 and 15 is back to more shit

rain hearth
whole crypt
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if it works out for you then keep her for now I guess

rain hearth
whole crypt
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1 BB 2 CV is more common

rain hearth
whole crypt
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for 2 BB comps it's kind of whatever

atomic abyss
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i agree with moving colo to mob

whole crypt
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but using BB flag is still safer if you're taking damage because BB more durable and you're less likely to lose fight from dead flag

rain hearth
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colo one is mob

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is it good now?

whole crypt
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try and find out WarShrug

rain hearth
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wish me something

jaunty vault
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good luck

opal stirrup
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Excuse me but who is the particular character here

wind hazel
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Memphis

tranquil rock
barren tapir
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oh i was scrolled up again UniHurt

plain saffron
feral token
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this right gear?

dreamy blade
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minus the autoloader

wind hazel
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use another toolkit

dreamy blade
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everything else is fine

feral token
dreamy blade
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another toolkit

feral token
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ohh i see

opal stirrup
wind hazel
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i feel like im shadowbanned here

feral token
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and this?

barren tapir
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i can see you

wind hazel
eternal basalt
feral token
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for unicorn?

spring mesa
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when do they usually add the pr catch up to research? was planning some stuff, so would have to factor that in for pr6 if its soon-ish 🤔
i remember it being around 6 months after new pr release but i havent played in over 1 and a half years so i could be off

eternal basalt
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Usually january

spring mesa
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tyty

wind hazel
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^assuming you don't have any better

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purple corsair if you don't have hellcat

tranquil rock
whole crypt
eternal basalt
plain saffron
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ping sam

opal stirrup
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Anyway U-556 META got me acting unwise

tame jungle
opal stirrup
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Ops sorry wrong channel WarZoom

whole crypt
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thanks

agile sparrow
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Didn’t Akashi have 3 heals that could be applied any time?

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did they take it away?

crimson glacier
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all repair ships should have that

whole crypt
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she has emergency repairs you can use on normal maps, can't remember if it's thrice
if you're in OS it's replaced with another effect

crimson glacier
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yeah on normal stage map screen

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was it 10% hp for everyone

whole crypt
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something like that

spare mango
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Which one is the best?
I have 900ish coobs

eternal basalt
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Keep your cubes

whole crypt
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best for what because that research lineup looks shit

spare mango
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Big f

final heart
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between naval camo and fire suppressor, which one can I trade for repair kit?

whole crypt
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I might just do the 1hr cube to refresh

final heart
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portland or helena

whole crypt
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🧯

spare mango
inland shoal
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I'd do 1h cube there especially if you're not done with the ships

eternal basalt
whole crypt
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the 1hr cube is the "wrong" series but everything else is shit

inland shoal
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Oh wait that's PR4 yikes
Still best option ig

whole crypt
spring bolt
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mine is 300+

jade spire
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Which hard stage has highest drop rate for t3 cruiser blueprint

whole crypt
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no good data just do highest you can manage

inland shoal
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X- uhh 2?

whole crypt
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highest x-2 yes

jade spire
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Bruh farmin for 2 days still no t3...

atomic abyss
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The drop rate is abysmal
Consider getting the 3* rewards if you haven't

final heart
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what war archive should I clear first? I think my team is good enough to clear normal mode

inland shoal
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I mean I wouldn't say the drop rate is abysmal, you really don't get that many rolls

whole crypt
late flame
inland shoal
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Divergent is sometimes recommended if you want KMS tech for FdG

late flame
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though with the upcoming event being ib anyway i'd skip war archive

final heart
inland shoal
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Well you can also get JdA, but she's irrelevant until much later
And there's kicks but they're not that useful

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There's also some good equip drops but farming equips is pain in this game

eternal basalt
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Polaris items can be useful

barren tapir
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kicks is nice as a poor mans rudder til you get enough rudders hammrun

left cedar
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wut u mean, rudders is never enough ElbeHeh

weary gust
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I have like 60 rudders and still need more. 2/3 of the ships in the game want one.

barren tapir
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true, but i mean NEED need (as in you dont have enough to even outfit your bare minimum fleets, aka me) and WANT need (endgame where you would like to shove a rudder on every ca/cb/cl you even think about using here and there) are a bit different

whole crypt
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you don't need more than like 6-10 rudders, any more is just whatever you're lazy to swap

barren tapir
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as a result i use kicks as a rudder replacement currently instead of stacking it with a rudder

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i have 6 "rudders" - 3 rudders, the tlr aux, kicks, and beaver BuckyPrideAnim

whole crypt
barren tapir
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DunktsukiStare i know?

rain hearth
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just some stats on probability of getting ur after given number of pulls
50: 45.32 percent
75: 59.56 percent
100: 70.1 percent
150: 83.65 percent

barren tapir
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the emphasis is on WANT specifically because it isnt actually necessary to function, unlike your first 6-12 rudders

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when other ppl complain about not enough rudders, it's a WANT. when i complain, it's a NEED BuckyPrideAnim (halfway done though!)

crimson glacier
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when i complain its coz i can

final heart
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is this better for portland?

atomic abyss
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no

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firstly, only memphis can use that passive

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secondly, portland wants evasion

final heart
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what about fuel filter?

atomic abyss
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worse

final heart
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ouch

tawdry topaz
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fuel filter is probably pvp only

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even in pvp there are better alternatives ShiSleep

quartz jungle
atomic abyss
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fuel filter is something you use when you dont have enough blue camo/steering gear to go around

quartz jungle
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PvP want speed items like boilers apart from the regular HP and black torp/oxytorp auxs

barren tapir
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fuel filter is a super super earlygame toolbox 'replacement' you slap onto anyone who has an empty slot and needs hp. and you don't upgrade them

final heart
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btw should I research saint louis just for the sake of tech points?
it costs a few cubes and yellow blueprints so I'm a bit skeptical

atomic abyss
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might as well get roon then

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tho saint louis would be easier to grind for with a beginner fleet

barren tapir
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if you're looking at iris libre tech then definitely worth it. she has CA evasion on 120 also

final heart
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I want to go with the iron blood but my line up is not making this easy DunktsukiStare

rain hearth
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besides there is an event tomorrow

final heart
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oh?

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wellfare iron blood ship?

eternal basalt
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Welfare UR DD

eternal moth
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New Year's Invite is interesting as well, but nobody really stands out. Graf Zep, Bel, SoDak, Formi, Noshiro, Bisco, and Riche

gentle gale
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What types of "long ranged aa guns" trigger nocal aug?GlowNaruhodo

eternal moth
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Timed Fuze guns, twin 127 time fuze or twin 134

strange sphinx
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should I Research all PR 5 cause I can't see Plymouth OwariWOKE

atomic abyss
strange sphinx
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I mean all face bp Cause I got like 10 Research and none of them is Plymouth MutsukiHyperStare

eternal moth
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Every ship you complete is another face removed from the face pool, so probably

strange sphinx
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I not done with her yet

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like she still dev 21

atomic abyss
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well rainbow faces are rarer so

strange sphinx
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oh well... who's second best PR ship in PR 5

eternal moth
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Hind

strange sphinx
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Hind?

atomic abyss
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brest and harbin

wind hazel
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that's 6

eternal moth
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Oh right.

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If you're gonna wot, who's better than Harbin?

atomic abyss
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well harbin is 3rd best yeah

eternal moth
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Also, promise crate coming after maintenance

crystal shoal
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Wut cant login to facebook, how do you guys fix this?

eternal moth
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I don't use Facebook to login.

tame jungle
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if you've got any other binds, you could try those?

crystal shoal
#

I already binded my account to facebook

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I'm installing al on a new phone

eternal moth
#

Do you have your UID?

crystal shoal
#

yep, I have a screenshot

eternal moth
#

If not your only option is to contact Facebook to recover your account

tame jungle
#

what's the problem with the bind? are you sure you got the right server?

crystal shoal
#

I tap the fb icon and it does nothing

eternal moth
#

The icon on the login screen I take it?

crystal shoal
#

yes

eternal moth
#

Have you created a Yostar account yet?

crystal shoal
#

nope

eternal moth
crystal shoal
#

Good got it

humble tapir
#

hi guys, js hit lv 60, where can you find the materials required to upgrade your weapons in the gear lab?

eternal moth
#

OpSI

inland shoal
#

In Operation Siren

remote quarry
#

Operation Siren

humble tapir
#

oh ok thx

eternal moth
#

You can get them a few other places as well, like from the Enterprise daily raid eventually, but that's where a majority of your materials will come from

crystal shoal
still nest
#

Is leveling fdg to 125 good?

whole crypt
#

sure

strange sphinx
#

question is, is she fs5?

#

fs3 is good for Haku right?

obsidian ivy
#

Is there taihouM15 lineups Ehhssex

strange sphinx
#

I'm also waiting for someone to cook

hollow gust
#

Looking like it's gonna be triple sakura or Soyuz nahk Amagi

still nest
tawdry topaz
wary lake
#

is there a way to display multiple skin for PR ships? (agir) planning to buy the new one but such a hassle to switch between the three skins

eternal moth
#

Unfortunately they haven't implemented a skin randomiser yet

still nest
#

I remember there's submarine comp here, can someone link it? I'm prepairing subs for w14 and 15

hollow gust
#

Fishies or Ironblood

hollow gust
#

The most reliable sub comp is on the w15 bit command

still nest
leaden garden
#

is Hakuryuu good?

forest palm
whole crypt
#

yes if she's in a complete state

outer spade
#

Hey, I am using a XI ship for the first time and I am wondering if there are any other main guns besides the 3 stars for them and how can I get it, thank you!

forest palm
remote quarry
outer spade
still nest
forest palm
#

81 + 96 + 47/37

still nest
remote quarry
#

If building a new fleet, wolfpack would be better than Fishpack. I only use fishpack because I already have them at 125

forest palm
#

U Boats aren't better than US Subs in fact they're stronger ShiWoke

#

not by much mind you

inland shoal
#

Fishpack is slightly better atm afaik
But like go for either it doesn't rly make much of a difference

still nest
#

So if I start from scratch, which comp?

eternal moth
#

Whatever you can get

remote quarry
#

Mine is a bit weaker, because I missed Flasher and have to use Cavalla

boreal wagon
#

doesnt fishpack also completely fall apart if u dont have flasher so its just not a real option for them

inland shoal
forest palm
#

nope it's still really good as long as you have Archerfish

eternal moth
#

It falls apart if you don't have Archer, not Flasher

hollow gust
#

It's a noticeably weaker without flasher, still a decent comp

leaden garden
#

i current have suisei on Admiral Nakhimov is that bad? I don't have much option

remote quarry
#

You could always go Archer, Albacore and Leo DaVinci if you happened to grab her recently.

inland shoal
#

Or you could just share what subs you actually have if you don't have those 3 either

inland shoal
remote quarry
still nest
eternal moth
#

Suisei is bad though. Use a Helldiver instead.

forest palm
#

ya pick up 81 + 96 + 37 simple

leaden garden
#

alright thanks

still nest
#

But why are they good?

inland shoal
#

Good skills

remote quarry
#

You did say you can grab Albacore though. So Archer, Albacore, and Leo is a good option also, and you alreayd have them MLB

whole crypt
eternal moth
#

Purple Helldiver is better than any gold other than goldiver, which isn't worth crafting.

eternal moth
#

Do you have the comp he mentioned?

remote quarry
remote quarry
pale crow
#

What are the “particular characters” said in the description?

viscid swift
#

Memphis

eternal moth
remote quarry
left cedar
#

exist a Alba U ... but iirc bad

eternal moth
remote quarry
left cedar
#

yeah, i know ... just saying that exist a Alba U

still nest
strange sphinx
whole crypt
#

timeout so yes?

eternal moth
#

Who's that second destroyer?

left cedar
#

Kaza

eternal moth
#

Eldridge?

whole crypt
#

Kaza

whole crypt
strange sphinx
#

you don't need slow fo Taihou meta or still need?

still nest
#

Is albacore already accounted?

whole crypt
#

without stop 2nd airstrike is going to whiff some but if you swap in something for stop your damage potential goes down a fair bit

forest palm
#

you don't have the building blocks to make albacore good LaffeyDrink

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well as strong as the U Boat comp

whole crypt
#

you don't have flasher and homura so throwing albacore in isn't going to be better than wolfpack

still nest
#

Alright, thank you I kinda avoid using lolis so yeah

whole crypt
#

the difference isn't that big anyway

whole crypt
#

fairly sure Implacable output is going to be a fair bit below what Nakhimov does here

#

so the comp can oneshot it's just not very consistent, wait and see if Fritz makes it any better

analog bronze
#

does anyone have a image of the SR selector?

viscid swift
#

no

whole crypt
#

this? no guarantees EN will get the same thing

viscid swift
#

EN will be getting the same thing

remote quarry
#

Good, I missed Richie the first time around

analog bronze
still nest
#

How much is the reduction of mood per node? Like 12-4

atomic abyss
#

-2 per battle entered

viscid swift
#

it's -2 per battle, -10 if your ship sinks

vestal glen
#

wait we get SSR selector?

viscid swift
#

yes

still nest
atomic abyss
#

6 mobs + 1 boss

still nest
#

So I should stop if the ship mood is 20?

leaden garden
atomic abyss
atomic abyss
leaden garden
#

oh... damn i crafted them

still nest
remote quarry
#

They are not awful intercept guns for BBs

inland shoal
#

You should put the ships you are using into dorm

still nest
#

They are already in

remote quarry
#

I usually get 12 runs of 12-4 off my ships if they are in dorm the whole time, and start at 150

whole crypt
#

stop at orange if affinity isn't maxed
if affinity is maxed just stop when game tells you 0 morale

inland shoal
#

Then you can definitely do more than 8 runs cuz there's no way you run them that fast

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Anyway if you wanna minmax stop once you go below 120 cuz then they get less exp

still nest
remote quarry
#

I usually rotate through 4 fleets. 2 fleets in dorm run 12 each. Then third and 4th fleets run theirs. By then, my first fleets have recovered. Can go almost all day with that setup

viscid swift
#

I just wait, hate spreading Xp that thin

whole crypt
#

each run takes like 5 minutes you're going to regen a bunch in the time you run up 8 runs

still nest
#

Unfortunately I only have 3 dorm slot so yeah

atomic abyss
#

2nd floor?

inland shoal
#

You do have 2nd floor right?

remote quarry
atomic abyss
#

just do opsi if your fleet is exhausted

still nest
#

2nd floor ???????

whole crypt
#

if you only have 3 of the ships in dorm then yes some of the ships will dry out first

remote quarry
#

Dorm should be #1 priority for gem spending

inland shoal
whole crypt
#

I won't say no. 1 but it's fairly high

viscid swift
remote quarry
still nest
#

Wtf , btw is 2nd floor free?

remote quarry
atomic abyss
#

500 gems

inland shoal
#

No, it costs gems

still nest
#

Well forget that then

viscid swift
#

it's well worth the investment

still nest
#

I am prioritizing dock space

inland shoal
#

Grinding without 6 dorm slots (3 slots x 2 floors) is 9 times as annoying

remote quarry
#

Dorm is literally the best investment in the game

inland shoal
#

But you do you

atomic abyss
#

in my opinion, dorm 2nd floor is very worth

#

because it automatically double the number of morale regen slots you have

whole crypt
#

in my opinion buy some gems and end your misery

still nest
#

But what about the gems ???

atomic abyss
#

you got 3 on the first floor?
you get 3 more on the 2nd

remote quarry
#

its only 500 gems. Thats not all that much

mellow cape
#

The two things that progressed me into ch10 and above were definitely dorm slots and unicorn retro funny enough

viscid swift
#

have you read #bot-spam /gems

atomic abyss
#

500 is like, 25 dock space?

whole crypt
#

500 gems is like 25 slots

atomic abyss
#

it's worth the qol

whole crypt
#

no idea what your current dock situation is though of course

still nest
atomic abyss
#

but would you rather have to stop grinding every 8 runs

#

when you can grind 50% more
and then restore your morale from 0 much faster?

remote quarry
inland shoal
#

I take not having to wait 10 hours for morale to recover over 25 dock slots

atomic abyss
#

outside dorm, your morale regens by 20/h

viscid swift
#

and the 20% boost in XP on all ships

atomic abyss
#

dorm 1st floor is 40/h
2nd floor is 50/h

whole crypt
#

just buy like one of the smaller gem packs and get both ShiSleep

remote quarry
#

imo, everyone should rush to unlock all 6 dorm slots and 2nd floor before they do anything else

viscid swift
#

all 6?

whole crypt
#

I think he means 3 + 2/F

atomic abyss
#

no he meant all 6 first floor

whole crypt
#

in my opinion everyone should play at their own pace but if you are a grinder then dorm will be important

inland shoal
remote quarry
#

no, I mean all 6. Do 2nd floor first, obviously, then the remaining 3 slots. You get 2 for each one since you already have 2nd floor

atomic abyss
#

which is extremely expensive and not worth for f2ps

whole crypt
#

F2P shouldn't buy all 6

atomic abyss
#

6th slot is 1200 gems

viscid swift
#

yeah that was very poorly worded

atomic abyss
#

which is like, 60 dock space

whole crypt
#

I mean if you're a super long time player that don't need more space with free gems over the years sure

remote quarry
#

And? 1,200 gems is cheap. you can literally pick up soda cans for an hour and earn enough for that....

inland shoal
#

We're talking about F2P

viscid swift
#

some of us are free to play?

whole crypt
#

some people just don't spend on the game

inland shoal
atomic abyss
#

why are you assuming people want to spend on the game lol

whole crypt
#

and also depending on where you're from some people can spend a week picking up cans and not earn enough to buy gems

still nest
atomic abyss
#

it is possible to hit 100% collection as an f2p lol

inland shoal
remote quarry
atomic abyss
remote quarry
#

being f2p for the sake of it is not the brag people think it is

viscid swift
#

not all of us can do so even if we want to?

whole crypt
#

you understand the value of the money spent for the gems is not the same for everyone, not everyone lives on the same standards of living

inland shoal
#

But yeah if you are getting into morale issues I would very highly recommend 2nd floor, if not then no need to get it

viscid swift
#

like, I've not remained free to play entirely by choice

whole crypt
#

and some people just don't want to spend money on the game regardless

remote quarry
#

Of course. If your broke, then obviously don't spend. i am tallking the people who can spend, but don't because "F2P, BTW"

still nest
#

I'm in 3rd word country so I can't really spent it even if I want too

inland shoal
whole crypt
viscid swift
remote quarry
#

Mod asked me to drop it, so I am

remote quarry
viscid swift
#

point is, we don't assume anyone can afford to spend until they otherwise for among other reasons to not make it feel like spending is necessity

whole crypt
#

the starting point for all recommendations here are F2P unless the question is explicitly about spending

hardy cape
#

is akagi better than enterprise for a beginner fleet?

jaunty vault
#

nah

hardy cape
#

mkay

jaunty vault
#

unless

#

akagi is mlb and enterprise isn't

hardy cape
#

mlb?

jaunty vault
#

max limit break

hardy cape
#

o

#

neither is, so im guessing enterprise better?

jaunty vault
#

yeah

forest palm
#

considering Akagi just flat out has poor skills, and a lot of her viability hinges on having Kaga, ya Enterprise will be better

stuck beacon
#

gems are used for more dorc space?

viscid swift
#

mainly yes, I recommend giving #bot-spam /gems a read

stuck beacon
#

so I have to buy 2 dorm space and put all in dorc?

soft raft
#

3rd slot in dorm and 2nd floor of dorm
then all in on dock space

stuck beacon
#

nice, thank you.. about teams, any tier list? or idk, teambuilding or what Is good or not.. got 2/3 sr atm and I don't know how to make a team

viscid swift
stuck beacon
#

It seems very useful thank you very much, but I guess apart from those mentioned he doesn't speak of any other ships, right? if they are good or usable ect

viscid swift
#

not in that one no

atomic abyss
#

because as a new player you're not really supposed to be rolling for ships till UR events roll around

#

which well, one is - tomorrow

stark quiver
#

today should be the lvl 15 fight right if one didnt miss a day

wind hazel
#

14

stuck beacon
#

yeah but Im still interessed in what Is good or not, pure curiosity when I receive ships

wind hazel
#

15 tomorrow, after maintenance

soft raft
odd rootBOT
#
Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
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use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

soft raft
#

or you could just ask here
Which is probably easier and faster if you do it in a thread

atomic abyss
#

use the first or second really

wary hawk
#

Usually for evaluating ships you look at the content rather than your ships in a vacuum

stuck beacon
#

needed the first one, thanks guys bcaTouchedHappy

rain hearth
#

do i spend money on gear or keep it saved

#

i have 75k

atomic abyss
#

craft the rudder and toolbox if you need them (you almost certainly do)

viscid swift
#

the rudder is definitely worth crafting

rain hearth
#

and no copy of this

#

and the gold gun
i don't have any gold besides the aa mixture for dd or cl

atomic abyss
#

that gold gun isnt good anyways

#

at best, as a BB secondary gun

wind hazel
#

BuckyStare might have use for him actually, better intercept for w10 w11

rain hearth
atomic abyss
#

remove that suisei from enterprise FumizukiCross

atomic abyss
rain hearth
#

and give what?
that's the only gold besides Messerschmitt

atomic abyss
#

purple sb2c helldiver

#

which is only beaten by rainbow divebombers

#

messerchmitt 155 is also shit btw

rain hearth
viscid swift
#

so is the gun colorado has

atomic abyss
#

craft the 155, give it to monarch

#

best BB guns at your point are purple

rain hearth
atomic abyss
#

no

rain hearth
#

btw i manual so sync isn't as big a problem

atomic abyss
#

that particular rainbow BB gun is meh cos it reloads way too slowly

#

it's not an issue about sync
it's an issue about damage itself

#

these are the only 2 BB guns you should be using at this point of time where you lack protocore/gearlab options

#

they are better than every other BB main gun you have there

#

yes, including the rainbow one

rain hearth
#

it just... sounds a bit insane

viscid swift
#

I mean does it?

atomic abyss
#

and yes, this is only beaten by rainbow dive bombers

viscid swift
#

rarity doesn't tell you anything concrete, the numbers however do

rain hearth
atomic abyss
#

we're talking 25s+ reload times

rain hearth
#

i mean it gives more fp too

viscid swift
#

the 460 is bad because it has very high alpha but very long reload

atomic abyss
#

it doesnt matter when you deal less damage overall

viscid swift
#

this is not desirable as not only is it difficult to sync but it means it's terrible against mobs because it overkills and takes a long time for the next attack

atomic abyss
#

with the other 2 guns you will realistically get off an additional round of salvos in an average length battle

#

the FP is meaningless if everything else is

viscid swift
#

Mk6 offers a better balance overall between reload and damage, not to mention is HE which a lot of W1-W11 bosses and mobs are light armor

#

the Firepower difference is not decisive here

rain hearth
#

i thought late game bosses are heavy

wind hazel
#

are you there yet?

viscid swift
#

they are and for that, we use Champaign, Flandre, and Soyuz guns

and for campaign 457s

rain hearth
#

i don't know

wind hazel
#

you are not

atomic abyss
#

the first heavy armoured boss is 13-4

#

you are at w10

rain hearth
#

i see

atomic abyss
#

you will find 0 use for that rainbow gun honestly

rain hearth
#

so do i just keep rainbow in my dock

viscid swift
#

well not 0 but it is very niche

atomic abyss
#

just let it collect dust

#

there will probably a day where it sees use

rain hearth
atomic abyss
#

probably for some gimmicky meta showdown

viscid swift
#

Algerie META if you have Bismarck Zwei

rain hearth
#

i assume a bb that has a shot preloaded could use it

atomic abyss
#

wouldnt be good

rain hearth
#

or perhaps 50 percent off on first 3 salvos

atomic abyss
#

if you mean ulrich, also no

#

there are just better options in 99% of cases

viscid swift
#

this is the old Algerie META comp

rain hearth
#

i mean that meta ship

#

renown

atomic abyss
#

she uses it to sync with CVs

rain hearth
#

wait why is it good on Bismarck zwei?

atomic abyss
viscid swift
#

it's good in that comp against Algerie META

atomic abyss
#

or some boss gimmick

#

i cant remember algerie meta's timing windows

quiet trellis
#

I just unlocked the shipyard and I'm having a lot of trouble with it. First problem is that it won't let me research a ship even though I meet the requirements. So I tried restarting the game. Now when I entered the shipyard, the entire screen is locked and I can't do anything.

atomic abyss
#

have you restarted the game again yet?

quiet trellis
#

** So I tried restarting the game**

jaunty vault
#

attach screenshots pls

jaunty vault
atomic abyss
#

have you restarted the game again yet?

quiet trellis
indigo frost
#

have you turned it off and on

viscid swift
#

screen shots please then

quiet trellis
#

do I post it in here?

indigo frost
viscid swift
#

yes

quiet trellis
jaunty vault
#

damn

rain hearth
#

personally i don't shoot any salvo till the boss appears

viscid swift
#

try fixing and repairing assets

indigo frost
#

uninstall and reinstall?

quiet trellis
jaunty vault
#

repair assets should fix

rain hearth
sweet delta
#

personally I leave the game on auto

indigo frost
atomic abyss
viscid swift
jaunty vault
#

should be in settings yeah

rain hearth
indigo frost
#

@quiet trellis check settings

quiet trellis
#

Yea I found it. I'll just repair the whole list see if that fixes it

#

wish I could have gotten the error message that was initially showing up

atomic abyss
indigo frost
quiet trellis
rain hearth
jaunty vault
#

huh strange

quiet trellis
#

should I continue repairing or uninstall

atomic abyss
#

the tankier enemies like the shipgirls
that have like double the HP of other mobs

jaunty vault
quiet trellis
elfin hollow
#

Why can’t I progress? Do I need to three star all of them or smth? Am I missing some sort of prerequisite mission? I know this isn’t efficient for new players but I want the unit regardless and progress a little every once in a while

jaunty vault
#

reinstall should be last option after you try everything

quiet trellis
#

I just turned thirty

viscid swift
jaunty vault
#

you could try clear cache and then try repair assets again

short wagon
#

is twin bofor 40 nice

elfin hollow
jaunty vault
#

maybe also level up a bit

quiet trellis
rain hearth
#

why isn't this good then
isn't this a speedy boy?

atomic abyss
viscid swift
strange sphinx
#

IB BB gun

atomic abyss
jaunty vault
rain hearth
#

so there's a reason my colorado couldn't kill a non boss enemy even with direct salvo

eager mulch
atomic abyss
#

it was probably also a light armoured enemy

rain hearth
#

no bb

#

the humanoid chara

hollow gust
atomic abyss
#

not all humanoid charas are BB
but yeah, the gun is ass

hollow gust
#

Unless you are overleveled they generally don't get oneshotted.

rain hearth
wind hazel
#

MurmWat gun is shit, end of story. change it to mk6, problem solved

rain hearth
#

how is that ib bb gun that is this but he

#

that i don't have

atomic abyss
#

what

soft dagger
#

spaghetti word

atomic abyss
#

there's no HE twin 380

rain hearth
#

the latter

quiet trellis
atomic abyss
rain hearth
atomic abyss
#

doesnt matter

rain hearth
#

that doesn't make sense

#

kind of?

atomic abyss
#

the impact of the additional 25? more FP isnt enough to outweigh the fact that the final damage is similar

rapid grail
#

bit faster, however the materials one may spend for crafting FdG gun is better spent elsewhere, on other gear

atomic abyss
#

the biggest issue is, you have to use your limited stock of materials to craft that

#

why would you craft something that's not even an upgrade to what you already have?

atomic abyss
strange sphinx
atomic abyss
#

to this

strange sphinx
#

ah Kai ver

atomic abyss
#

which will cost you only the billion purple mats you will almost never use otherwise

rain hearth
#

and does it matter that only the rainbow one is +10
i would have to wait till after event to upgrade the +6 sakura he

quiet trellis
atomic abyss
rain hearth
atomic abyss
#

you get enough gold to upgrade it just from your daily raids

sweet delta
atomic abyss
#

you have 2 weeks to get the ship - why worry?

#

it's not like you have enough rainbow bulins to mlb her anyways

#

or well, coins

rain hearth
strange sphinx
atomic abyss
#

there is no point in worrying about not having enough coins for the ship if you cant even clear the content

strange sphinx
rain hearth
atomic abyss
#

you have 2 weeks to get the ship - why worry?

#

you will get enough coins if you actually play the event

strange sphinx
#

is the maintenance will be unti 21:00 or 23:00 tom?

frank pulsar
rain hearth
#

you are saying i will be able to collect enough gold
like 200k during event

wind hazel
#

maintenance expected to end by <t:1734620400:F>

tropic tusk
strange sphinx
#

How many coins again for UR?

frank pulsar
strange sphinx
#

me with 60kBelCry

atomic abyss
#

my dude, it takes you ONLY 2760 gold to upgrade the purple sakura gun to +10

#

2760 is something you get from your 3 daily raids

frank pulsar
rain hearth
atomic abyss
#

no

#

you'll more likely be limited by cubes

rain hearth
#

you have no soul

atomic abyss
strange sphinx
atomic abyss
#

i get 5000+ a day from my max level daily raids

#

im sure you get at least half that otherwise

tropic tusk
rain hearth
strong tartan
#

hi

frank pulsar
atomic abyss
rain hearth
#

what is spark
are you talking about pity

tropic tusk
rain hearth
#

why the new name

atomic abyss
#

i wouldnt have to bring it up everytime if you didnt do something that made me have to

tropic tusk
atomic abyss
#

well, akshually it works as a spark rather than a pity anyways
since it's a guaranteed selection after x number of rolls

#

but that's getting into gacha term semantics and not really a topic for here

rain hearth
#

i feel like others make a joke occasionally
but that i specifically get targeted

#

at least say something

atomic abyss
#

this might blow your mind
but we tend to give stronger reminders to people who have shown a propensity for breaking the rules

viscid swift
#

a few things
one, when you make a joke try thinking about how other people will interpret it
when you respond to someone like that who's trying to help you it comes off more than anything as you being rude and taking the advice for granted

atomic abyss
#

especially to someone who has literally admitted to trying to piss people off as a joke

hushed cliff
#

Should I be running Musashi as my flag? MusashiMad

atomic abyss
#

yes

frank pulsar
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she works best as flag

eternal moth
atomic abyss
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why should i be merciful to a troll lol

soft raft
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Why does this partly remind me of what happened yesterday

rain hearth
tropic tusk
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Just incase of zwei comes back mushi or zwei flag better or they both can flag?

viscid swift
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as I said earlier, don't bite the hand that feeds you

hushed cliff
wind hazel
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saltybelfast about to have a friend soon LilEnty

rain hearth
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just as i was told

atomic abyss
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you literally just broke 2 server rules a few hours ago, how am i to trust that lol

viscid swift
eternal moth
rain hearth
atomic abyss
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in short, your "jokes" aren't funny

frank pulsar
atomic abyss
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you wanna rant or bitch about your gacha luck? go to #al-general

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maybe they'll be receptive

tropic tusk
wind hazel
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is sushi worse flag than zwei if there's ply?

frank pulsar
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depends iirc

viscid swift
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depends on the boss and such

sweet delta
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Almost always Musashi flag

eternal moth
atomic abyss
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if boss is heavy, sushi prefers flag usually
if boss is light, bis 2 iirc

rain hearth
wind hazel
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what's the exception?

frank pulsar
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if campaign id flag musashi always, for bosses sometimes i get better results with flag zwei, usually light bosses

strange sphinx
tropic tusk
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Ok

patent raft
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What is fastest way to level up profile instead sortie over and over at champion or.. There no other to level up profile fast?

rain hearth
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right now i am just angry
i admit i made a mistake so i was trying to be friendly

tropic tusk
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So only light zwei rest mushi

strange sphinx
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tf this guy talking about????? this is gameplay help not a vent channel

wind hazel
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well other than light cause i probably never bring sushi to light fight

viscid swift
patent raft
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Oh..

frank pulsar
strange sphinx
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Farm more, tanner

patent raft
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Alright hiraga

strange sphinx
sweet delta
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Then basically no, I don't remember Bisz ever consistently out damaging Musashi such that you would want to give plys buff to her (not even considering Musashi off flag barrage loss)

slow fox
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Source?

strange sphinx
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?

wind hazel
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no citation needed, he is called sushi, i trust sushi's sushi statement

strange sphinx
atomic abyss
viscid swift
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I just don't really use Musashi for bossing these days at all

slow fox
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suchiperson is literally the most misinformation spreader

second to me

strange sphinx
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in sushi we trust

wind hazel
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uhm sir...

rain hearth
eager mulch
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ender banish them all to general

tropic tusk
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That ba tho wht are U watching OwariWOKE

strange sphinx
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Ahm, where's the :AyoEssex: emoter when you need it

patent raft
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Just another slander blue archive

tropic tusk
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So zwei is more of a support then a DPS in a way right?

viscid swift
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she's both really