gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

bad if you're actively grinding

good if you cant be assed to grind and are capping on oil

[keen sable]

Not great

[eager mulch]

tbh i might consider saving oil and farming D3 of the event when it’s here for coins

[rain hearth]

how is the ratio of coin to fuel

[soft raft]

if you mean D3, roughly the same as W10-11

[rain hearth]

good idea

[keen sable]

It can be either or ok

[novel solstice]

Isn't the coin-oil ratio thing in the pinned posts somewhere?

[atomic abyss]

at this point might as well push

maybe not farm

[eager mulch]

pushing eats a lot of oil and there’s an event in 2 days that will also eat a lot of oil

[rain hearth]

i also have 30k oil and 40k gold in mail

[keen sable]

Why is something bis farmable?

How do you know its bis

[atomic abyss]

people are assuming the improved quad will be farmable kek

[rain hearth]

the fleet i am using for mob is 37 oil

[eager mulch]

I don’t remember saying anything bis was farmable

[keen sable]

I see

[rain hearth]

is that a good value
and what is bis

[novel condor]

Bis means Best in slot

[atomic abyss]

your oil cost for clearing doesnt matter, cos for farming due to oil cap

[rain hearth]

for pushing

[atomic abyss]

doesnt matter
more important is to actually clear the content

[keen sable]

Not if that is the true cost and not cost limit cost

[atomic abyss]

spend the oil

[rain hearth]

??

[atomic abyss]

37 is really low lol

sounds like its not a full fleet

[rain hearth]

cause uni plus 3 vanguards that need upgrading and not mlb

[atomic abyss]

in w10, you're not coasting with that, that's for sure

[rain hearth]

i see
i guess i will have to use the lvl 100 ships

[atomic abyss]

full mlb fleet at around lvl 90 at worst for w10 mob

[rain hearth]

somehow uni kept even a lvl 56 alive in w9

[atomic abyss]

because it's w9

w10 is a noticeable jump from w9

[keen sable]

Bad strategy

[rain hearth]

i was low on oil

[keen sable]

Generate xp packs. Avoid bad stuff

[novel condor]

W10 also have more suicide boats

[rain hearth]

yh those things
need bb for those

cause a few slip happily

[keen sable]

You're not saving any. All you are doing is dragging out playing time for less rewards

[rain hearth]

i suppose

btw
dd fleets are pretty good for oil?

[atomic abyss]

oil cost does not matter for grinding at that point

why? you have oil cap when it comes to grinding

[rain vine]

use good ships that need exp
hull type doesnt matter

[atomic abyss]

oil shd not be your primary concern when pushing content

[keen sable]

Oil is irrelevant. You're in cost limit

You don't save oil by using bad ships. You save oil if that's what you really do by using less ships.

[rain hearth]

i keep forgetting

do you think i can push to 11-4 tomorrow?

[keen sable]

You see people do this in event sp with like unicorn + plymouth not bad unlevelled ships.

[rain hearth]

this was my thought process:
pushing + low oil cost (cause not cleared) + leveling ships for fdg

[atomic abyss]

^
the primary concern shd be actually being able to clear the content

[keen sable]

Use less ships for clearing

[atomic abyss]

he already was tho

[rain hearth]

i said only uni plus 3 vanguards

[keen sable]

3 bad ships

Use even less

[rain hearth]

but yh
i did smell trouble in 9-4
I'll take out the big guns

[keen sable]

Making a z fleet for low cost is not a thing. As useless as fletchers on en and even cn thinks it's useless on cn

[ocean trout]

dunno where else to ask. is there a site where u can see which artist worked on which skin?

[atomic abyss]

no

unless the artist announces it themselves

[strong tartan]

it's on the wiki

[atomic abyss]

haya that only is for base ships

[strong tartan]

oh skins not ships sorry im slow

[atomic abyss]

not the skins themselves

[forest palm]

has there been a case where they used a different artist for a particular outfit, or are we talking about promo art

[wary lake]

what is good backline for taiho meta raid? i have all UR

[atomic abyss]

i believe helena's artist changed for her skins

and ofc the obvious taihou to taihou meta one

[reef flume]

Nano-CVmagi-Impla

[hardy cape]

I just started playing a few days ago and… i got little clue on what im doing, is my team good for the main story?

[wary lake]

huh all CV eh

[atomic abyss]

no, very bad dont use rainbows this early on

refer to this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[strong tartan]

queen Elizabeth

[atomic abyss]

...dont use warspite either

[reef flume]

You could also use triple BB in that case you'd want Musashi-Zwei-Alsace. But triple carrier performs better (Musashi is currently the only BB that competes against CVs in heavy sadly)

[viscid swift]

man rolling on special right before a UR event

[reef flume]

So yeh, Just use triple CV

[atomic abyss]

new players dont really know better

[pure geode]

also save your cubes

new event soon

[humble iris]

Will prince of Wales ever appear in medal shop

[viscid swift]

yes, when you get BBs in rotation

[atomic abyss]

yes

[keen sable]

No

[keen sable]

What server on you on?

[humble iris]

Is fdg replaceable for richi

[atomic abyss]

are you asking if fdg can be replaced BY richy or the opposite

[forest palm]

yes, FdG still outperforms SSR BBs

[reef flume]

FdG is significantly better

[hardy cape]

Amagi

[reef flume]

Than all SSR BBs

And one of the best mobbers in game

[atomic abyss]

get enterprise from the gold medal shop
and raise her then

[forest palm]

nah, some of the newer SSR BBs are catching up to FdG, but none match

[atomic abyss]

so your fleet shd be
pennsylvania, unicorn, enterprise
portland, helena, z23

[hardy cape]

i only got 36 medals rn

[atomic abyss]

use kirishima in the interrim

[keen sable]

Not penny. Maryland imo

[atomic abyss]

i dont see a maryland?

[keen sable]

Guild shop

[humble iris]

I just got mainz and idk if I should use her

[keen sable]

She won't be usable for at least 35 days? Ask again then?

When she is d30

[humble iris]

I already prepared her mats

She's like 25

[keen sable]

15 days then

[humble iris]

So she isn't usable?

So what shall I do when she's actually maxed

[keen sable]

Probably not

[humble iris]

what

[keen sable]

Probably not usable at all

[humble iris]

Even đ30?

[keen sable]

Yes assuming that a rf yuudachi and aug kwkz

[atomic abyss]

it's not that she's not usable

she's very good
but you have better, so why use her?

[civic agate]

I missed the event that gave item for eldridge retrofit. The only way to get it is just wait for rerun?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[civic agate]

ah welp. ty for answer

[atomic abyss]

you'd only use mainz then if you like her basically

[humble iris]

Before I even got Guam MLB I already wasted tons of mats on her so why not make use of it

[atomic abyss]

^

[humble iris]

so you're telling me I just threw out all my mats

[atomic abyss]

you need more than 2 fleets for opsi anyways
i wouldnt worry

[humble iris]

4?

[atomic abyss]

well, focus on 3 before the 4th but yes

[tranquil rock]

me when i only use 2 fleets for opsi the rest are just level 30 extra shit i have
i may have overinvested into 2 fleets

[humble iris]

Well looking at my fleet, is there any pr ship that I can farm for to replace

[atomic abyss]

agir, plymouth, napoli, nakhi

[humble iris]

What's agirs use

[atomic abyss]

tank, same with napoli

[tranquil rock]

front tank

and good dmg

agir has shit dmg?

[atomic abyss]

shimanto for w15

[reef flume]

No

[humble iris]

Agir and ply Napoli are all tanks?!

[atomic abyss]

ply isnt a tank, DPS + buffer

[crimson glacier]

ply is just op

[tranquil rock]

yeah but they can all deal very respectable dmg
plymouth is dps

[atomic abyss]

agir's damage is ok
nothing great, nothing bad

[humble iris]

she can be placed front?

[tranquil rock]

ehhhhh

[deep solstice]

does pr4 not appear in research acacdemy for catchup once i did catchup on agir and haku?

[atomic abyss]

in some cases yes
but she's not a tank usually

[crimson glacier]

ply is tanky but not tank tanky

[humble iris]

So middle

[atomic abyss]

off tank usually

[humble iris]

Then to the right

[crimson glacier]

theres basically never a fleet where ply needs middle

[atomic abyss]

no? they still should appear

[crimson glacier]

atleast no good fleet

[atomic abyss]

you just ran out of catch up for DRs, so do research normally?

[tranquil rock]

yeah furthest to top
leftmost (bottom) is front tank

[humble iris]

Napoli is a tank too right

[atomic abyss]

unless you also finished the catch up for golds

[tranquil rock]

napoli tank ye

[atomic abyss]

the thing is that you need more than 2 tanks anyways

[humble iris]

I don't even know who to grind for first out of the recommendations

[tranquil rock]

wait catchup is limited?

[atomic abyss]

you finish pr4 first

[tranquil rock]

i havent even finished pr1 yet 💀

[deep solstice]

like that. i don't think i finished catchup for gold ships

[humble iris]

So every ship on there?

[atomic abyss]

means you ALSO finished the golds catch up

[deep solstice]

huh

[atomic abyss]

golds catch up is 300 in TOTAL

not 300 per ship

[atomic abyss]

the order is like this
get fdg
complete pr4
then move to pr5

[atomic abyss]

so it's more than likely you already finished it

[humble iris]

Competing pr4 is just getting every ship on there right

[atomic abyss]

getting every ship there to dev 30/fs5

[deep solstice]

wait how much is catch up for gold ships if u confirm the selection? and does getting blueprint from research count as catching up?

[tranquil rock]

oh wait so i should get fdg first then do anchorage?

[humble iris]

What will I even use the ships for aside from the relevant ones

[atomic abyss]

300 in total for all gold ships (shared)
catch up BPs appear as BONUS

[deep solstice]

ye i think those shared ones might ahve gone all into anchorage

[atomic abyss]

august for CV fleets if you lack implacable
hakuryuu for CV fleets
anchorage for tank
agir for tank
marco exists

[tranquil rock]

im so close to finishing anchorage and geting her

[atomic abyss]

you can dev fdg and ancho simultaneously tho

assuming you already obtained them both ofc

[deep solstice]

should i catchh up on pr5 then? prob ply?

[atomic abyss]

start with ply first ye

or

catch up for fdg if you havent

[deep solstice]

i've already done catchup for fdg, ancho, agir, and haku

[atomic abyss]

ply it is then

[tranquil rock]

i havent

[atomic abyss]

wrap up ancho

you can grind fdg exp during the event with your new german ships even

[tawdry topaz]

honestly I'ld suggest catching up a PR5 ship first

[atomic abyss]

...that's why we said ply?

[tawdry topaz]

PR

[atomic abyss]

ply more important

[tawdry topaz]

after catchup PR will be immediately usable, Ply wants more prints than that

[atomic abyss]

that's not the issue

by the time you get to 5, you wont have much use for any of them

ply is usable at a lower dev level

[soft raft]

tho getting the PRs to D30 (FS5 if they have it) will make getting DR BPs faster so there's still some wortwhile justification to doing them, even if they end up being useless in the long run

[tawdry topaz]

Harbin is pretty good iirc

[soft raft]

She is
but then Shimanto rolled around

[atomic abyss]

and the remaining 43 BPs still have to come from somewhere

[tawdry topaz]

shimanto doesnt have catchup

[tawdry topaz]

normal research will do, or slap in 10-20 general prints

[viscid swift]

Give it about a month

[tawdry topaz]

also is shimanto > harbin? preload is kinda good

[atomic abyss]

shimanto is a core part of w15 fleets
you know, the hardest part of the game currently?

[viscid swift]

Shimanto has great AA, can extinguish burns, and heal and shield the vanguard on top of good damage

[atomic abyss]

harb isnt quite as good there

[tawdry topaz]

yeah I havent touched w15 yet

accidentally retired my only Illu

does the UR gear shop reset annualy?

[errant fog]

wait, is the 1st stage or 4th stage of a world is good for coins farming?

[tawdry topaz]

I heard it was a thing before bonus coin/run

[atomic abyss]

in protocore? never

[tawdry topaz]

[atomic abyss]

12-4/13-4
12-1 if you want better exp to oil

[errant fog]

noted. thanks

[little tree]

What one is better for w14

[tawdry topaz]

UR

[atomic abyss]

457 is always superior for mobbing

[little tree]

What about boss?

[atomic abyss]

i mean well, firstly which BB are you using for your fleets?

[little tree]

Uhh muashi is mob fdg boss

[atomic abyss]

well, obviously musashi is never going to use either of those guns

[tawdry topaz]

probably put the ur on fdg for stagger

[atomic abyss]

so it's a pretty obvious answer

457 on the fdg because musashi cant use it

[little tree]

Thank you

[tawdry topaz]

musashi should be against boss and fdg against mob tho

[atomic abyss]

i would argue the same too, esp in w14's specific case

@little tree

[little tree]

Ahh fdg better mob in w14

I'll swap then thank you

[soft raft]

her barrage is more mob oriented in the first place

[little tree]

Got it but musashi is generally better mob aside from w14 ?

[atomic abyss]

yes, but here's my issue with that particular generalisation outside w15

musashi is just better on the damage front than fdg

and you usually want more DPS on boss

esp for 13-4, musashi would be noticeably better on boss cos of taihou

now if the BB wasnt fdg or uvh then there'd be no discussion

they're just noticeably weaker on boss compared to the other UR BBs

[little tree]

[atomic abyss]

NJ may be on their level, but her kit has always been bossing oriented

[hollow gust]

Musashi goes in the fleet that fights the harder content

[atomic abyss]

actually goose, isnt NJ for w15 boss fine

[hollow gust]

W15 the mob is a much bigger problem , that's why Musashi is mob

[atomic abyss]

fair
you'd do 1/2/1 for 15-4 in that case?

[hollow gust]

[little tree]

If NJ is oathed is it worth spending bullins on or just passive collection still

[atomic abyss]

just let the dupes come naturally

[hollow gust]

Her cross fleet doesn't need levels or mlb

[junior walrus]

This seems half decent?

[forest palm]

can't read by icons

[forest palm]

pretty eh..

Artiliary is alright, Loading is unnecessary, Mountain is ok-ish but not desirable by any means

also there's a talent tab you don't need to screen each thing, also the skill isn't relevant information

[elfin hollow]

Is there a guide for everything you need to do for ops?

[rain vine]

rush story as much as possible and clear all areas

[jaunty vault]

ingame tips go over the know how and then there isn't much extra to form a guide for

[drifting light]

Hi is there any updated tierlist? saw that slaimuda stopped updating in august

[atomic abyss]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime (Not updated)
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[atomic abyss]

refer to the 2nd link

[woeful pasture]

Is the cn version of the game ahead of this version?

[forest palm]

nope

[atomic abyss]

no

[woeful pasture]

Thank you both

[atomic abyss]

EN, CN and JP are all on the same version

[drifting light]

thanks, will save it to give a deep look later

[forest palm]

[wanton lynx]

hello I want to push chapter12, and also maybe also up to 15, is this team good enough

[jaunty vault]

naaw

[atomic abyss]

it'll clear 12 (barely), and that's all

[viscid swift]

well it's defnitely not making it past W12

[atomic abyss]

that's like a 2019 w12 fleet

[half plover]

this is history

[atomic abyss]

like, it's REALLY bad

[vale spindle]

there's no main tank and akashi alone isn't enough healing

[viscid swift]

I would reuse no one from that fleet to push content

[soft raft]

That is extremely scuffed to put it kindly

[atomic abyss]

arrays on akashi

[soft raft]

Oh god I just noticed that too

[atomic abyss]

@wanton lynx in case you disappeared

[hollow gust]

Goddamn, when ise and hyruuga are the best ships in the fleet

[atomic abyss]

hyuuga and ise with 35% FP buff

akashi to... AA?
yeah im sure she's carrying 3 cranes and not 3 AA radars so 💀

[wanton lynx]

Oh is it really that bad? How about I use Kaga and Akagi they are really great ships? Also roon as tank then

[viscid swift]

mediocre and okay if you craft her augment

[atomic abyss]

kaga and akagi are an upgrade to what you have there
but they're very meh still
it's like 3/10 compared to 1/10

[vale spindle]

akaga and kaga are also meh

[viscid swift]

like just start a thread and post your dock at this point

[vale spindle]

yes create a thread and post screen shots of your dock there

[viscid swift]

so akagi on her own is okay

[vale spindle]

akagi u

[wanton lynx]

unlucky for my bbq fleet, thanks for helping!

[vale spindle]

~~ it's called bbq cause it gets cooked~~

[atomic abyss]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1296973753636360192 @vale spindle @viscid swift if you're curious about his dock

he has good ships raised

[vale spindle]

I'm not sorry

[atomic abyss]

his akashi is almost bis btw

double sextuples, 2 AA radars and akashi's healing paw

it should definitely clear w12 mobs assuming there's a boss fleet

[half plover]

it might be good enough for w13 already

[atomic abyss]

nope

[half plover]

this post was like 2 month ago

[atomic abyss]

i mean that particular fleet isnt

[half plover]

he might have picked up musashi

[atomic abyss]

the dock definitely is

[half plover]

@wanton lynx did u pull musashi?

[wanton lynx]

of course

[stark quiver]

Wsp

[cinder kelp]

Hello. Is Scyla better than Shimanto in 15-4?

[inland shoal]

No

[sweet delta]

Scylla is better than Shimanto in a CV boss fleet, probably

Is Scylla better than shimanto against Katsuragi CM on auto?

[stark quiver]

what do u have cooked up for Jan cm

[cinder kelp]

Besides 1y old videos on yt, is somewhere else where we can check some fleet comp for 15-4?

[jaunty vault]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[mellow cape]

New event is on Thursday?

So update on Wednesday night?

[jaunty vault]

no update maintaineve from 12:30 to 8:30 PM Thursday assuming no extension

[ivory pawn]

Expect it to end about <t:1734620400:F>.

[ruby grotto]

is the only way to obtain Fusou Meta, Hiyou Meta, Junyou Meta and Yamashiro Meta through the META shop? don't have a lot of fragments and still need to buy Hiei Meta Crystals to MLB her

[forest palm]

currently yes that is the only way to attain those ships

[ruby grotto]

sad, ok thanks

[wanton lynx]

Help for ch14 and ch12+13 hard clear

[soft raft]

only other way to have obtained them is to be present for their intial runs during their respective cruise passes

META Shop is where those METAs go to be peramently avaliable

[forest palm]

almost like they were aware of that, and where wondering there were options...

[dreamy blade]

how many fdg prints am I supposed to be coining every day? and should I even bother continuing to coin roon? doing both is kinda painful

[clever lance]

Is there anything important about private quarters?

[viscid swift]

however many you can comfortably afford

[dreamy blade]

Sirius is cute that's about it

[viscid swift]

for gameplay purposes? none

[clever lance]

What a waste of time

[dreamy blade]

not as much as project tb

[dreamy blade]

well I was told to spend 3k coins daily for the pr ships and was wondering what the equivalent for dr is

[viscid swift]

3k is what 15 prints a day, comfortably I wouldn't go over 10 a day but again if you're low on coins there's no shame in doing less for a bit

[dreamy blade]

3k is 10 pr prints

Hm I guess I'll just skip roon prints besides the free ones for now

[soft raft]

at most 10
Also keep in mind that PR and DR coining are sepreate

[south sequoia]

Did JP patch notes drop?

[vale spindle]

yes

[viscid swift]

yes, anything you wanted to know?

[vale spindle]

https://www.azurlane.jp/news/661

[undone plover]

any UR gear ?

[viscid swift]

nope

I don't know if this is a translation issue but there was this line "new SSR armament" in terms of shop stuff

[undone plover]

doesnt that mean the improved quad mag? or was it a separate note?

[forest palm]

probably the i quad

[viscid swift]

I assume it's the quad but it's not exactly new

[vale spindle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Improved_Quadruple_Magnetic_Torpedo_Mount#Type_0-0 if it has a wiki page its not new

[forest palm]

have they released all the weapons from the old datamine?

[viscid swift]

the only other vaguely interesting new piece of info is the fact they're adding a way to get medals from old events

[undone plover]

what medals

[forest palm]

[vale spindle]

either chat frame or the dorm furniture or both

[viscid swift]

furniture medal from clearing D3

[soft raft]

what was in that in the first place?
iirc, Guam/Alaska gun was in there

[vale spindle]

yamato/musashi gun was there

[vale spindle]

thats very pog

[stark quiver]

Smh taking the value out of these things

[forest palm]

it's been ages

[vale spindle]

its both chat frame and dorm furniture thats nice

[soft raft]

oh hell yeah

[forest palm]

mildly disappointed

[fathom isle]

Hey I wanted to finally start playing azure lane but I don’t know what serve to pick. Does server choice matter in this game? Are there guilds where server would matter?

And are there servers that are more english speaking compared to other ones?

[viscid swift]

Lexington has the best medal shop selection this month so that server would be the best to start on this month

[forest palm]

can someone even start now, and gain the medals for that though

[soft raft]

For context
(BB and CV are the highly reccomended ones for Hood and Enterprise respectively)

[vale spindle]

all versions (cn / jp / en) are at parity
server choice doesn't matter, so just pick the server your friends are in, since you can't communicate in game across servers
there are no servers that are more english speaking than the others, but you should pick little enterprise if you don't have a reason to pick another server since its the newest server to be added

[viscid swift]

well with an event going on getting medals should be easier than usual

[soft raft]

I mean event starts in like two days with 3/4ths of its runtime within the month so it should be easier than usual

[barren tapir]

half a month left, with active play i think so

[fathom isle]

Oh interesting, what would I be aiming for at that medal shop?

[fathom isle]

Thank you so much, I don’t have any friends but then i’ll probably just pick the newest one

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message

[viscid swift]

Enterprise and Hood

[soft raft]

Also give this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips a read when you can, lots of very good tips

[fathom isle]

Aah gotcha thank you so much! And thanks for that newbie tips link. I’ll def check it out

[undone plover]

anyone have the barrage gif/picture that shows why some ships want flagship?

[grizzled sundial]

Last time i ask about barrage , some say the GIF list is not yet complete for all the ship

[soft raft]

It's namely how the barrage is aimed that determins if they need flag or not

If it's centered around them and is wide, then they need flag
if it centers around the flagship position or is more linear, then they dont need flag position as much

[undone plover]

I am not asking which ships like flagship position
there was a picture showing an example of why position matters for barrage
helped illustrate it better for newbies

[soft raft]

oh a picture
hmmm

I dont recall such

[viscid swift]

should be pretty easy to make though

just take Hood into CM and grab 2 screen shots

[stark quiver]

I mean Musashi barrage hits depending on her position

[forest palm]

it is something you can visually see especially with Hood

[grizzled sundial]

Really ? The initial Thunder slam matter ?

I always thought it is the lightning strike that do the damage

[viscid swift]

These aren't good but you get the idea

[soft raft]

the lighting strikes yes
but the big bonk stick no, that part is centered around her

[stark quiver]

Either that or I’m blind

[forest palm]

[ivory pawn]

Source: https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide/fleetbuilding

[tawny ermine]

god damn i need mushashi gotta wait a whole year for her tho

correction 2 years

[forest palm]

there's also a range limit on BBs

[soft raft]

She already reran
expect her to be Archived/Perma in like another year-ish

[tawny ermine]

😦

[forest palm]

Musashi reran like 3 weeks ago lmao

[tawny ermine]

yeah i saw she finished like the week i started playing again

i couldnt of picked a worse time to get back into the game ngl

[forest palm]

just never stop playing easy

[tawny ermine]

i mean eventually i take breaks from games

[forest palm]

even then AL is probably one of the least demanding games you can play

[tawny ermine]

i mean the hundreds of ship woman wanting me to lvl them up and to feed them feels pretty demanding

[vale spindle]

you can ignore them in your dock with no penalty

[tawny ermine]

well i mean the amount of dust on like 90% of them

[soft raft]

you can at least just set the auto sortie to do 3 runs
And then repeat every like 15 mins or so without much worry besides possibly running out of dock space or morale

Compared to having to actively pay attention to the screen in other games like Genshin

[viscid swift]

hardly

start by narrowing down what to level in smaller managable chunks and don't try to rush it

it'll take care of itself pretty much

and if you find tapping auto every few minutes demanding well.....

[tawny ermine]

lmao i wasnt saying the games demanding

was a joke

might add a r/wooosh

[soft raft]

Well then go to #al-general if you want to joke
This place isnt really the right place for them

[agile harness]

which are the best of at least very good ships for face taihou META at the high levels? 12+ and above

[viscid swift]

uhh what do you mean by "best of at least very good ship"

[agile harness]

well, the best ships or at least very good ships

[viscid swift]

well if you're aiming to one shot at the moment we really don't know, legally no one has access to level 15 Taiho for at least another few hours

for now though recycling Nagato META comps is working fine

[agile harness]

I mean, I'm not looking to do a one shot, just ships that don't die so fast or do really good damage jsjsjs

[plain saffron]

2 shot then

[viscid swift]

well what have you got to work with

[tawny ermine]

damn al community doesnt like jokes

[drowsy gust]

is FDG still good?

[viscid swift]

she's good still but power crept overall

[tawny ermine]

if you have nothing else really better then her then i would use her

[soft raft]

more like this channel is often where people who want serious advice go and thus are given similarlly serious answers

[soft raft]

She's on the lower end of the UR BB spectrum but still worth it
Especially since she's coinable and she has the advantage of being peramently avaliable while the majority of her competition is either yet to rerun or yet to be archived

[tawny ermine]

it was a joke, dont gotta be so serious, its ok to have jokes every now and then

[strong tartan]

??

[slow fox]

It wasn't the joke that ticked off, probably. It's the three lines of snarky sarcasm that followed it. Please keep your jokes contained.

[raw lily]

What ships do I use to make this quicker and level? I'm lv 64 rn

[tawny ermine]

huh? 3 lines of snarky sarcasm?

[viscid swift]

where are you in the main campaign? if you're not in W12 yet I would not set this as a primary focus

[soft raft]

three applicable ships and go grind your ass off in a W9+ map
also dont bother with research full time unless you're at least W12

[ivory pawn]

Filter your dock to Iron Blood (KMS) vanguard ships, and use three of them.

[raw lily]

Hmm I can check rn

[south sequoia]

Alright I'm going to cut this off right now

[viscid swift]

but when you do, 3 Iron Blood vanguards in W12, preferably ones that need levels and go ham

[tawny ermine]

i was only confused wasnt trynna start anything

i was genuanly confused cause i dont get what i said that was snarky sarcasm

my b if something i said was

[viscid swift]

well just to make things abundantly clear, rule 3 of this channel

[tawny ermine]

sooooooo replying back to someone with a slight joke is just not allowed, also how was i meant to know that the rules are at the very bottom of the pinned messages

[wind hazel]

brother just move on

[tawny ermine]

i was, but then he said that

but my b ill let it go

[soft raft]

Last thing I'm gonna say on this is while you are technically correct that the occasional joke is fine, they are often between longtime channel regulars who can easily tell that its a joke. If a non-regular does it, it isnt structured in a way that it can be interperted as them expressing a problem that they're having or they're simply just joining in on the bit before going back to regular conversation

[wind hazel]

holy shit bro

[tawny ermine]

bro

[viscid swift]

elitist much

[wind hazel]

@south sequoia come back and finish what you were trying to cut off

[tawny ermine]

please do

[undone plover]

what is algerie meta good at?
does she have a niche?
who is she comparable to?

[sweet delta]

She's good at finishing c1 battles in 0 seconds

[viscid swift]

I learned that she can proc all skills at the start of a battle which is interesting, not that useful though

[soft raft]

she's realistically tech fodder all things considered

[drowsy gust]

best MAIN fleet setup for fast clearing mob?

[soft raft]

where specifically?

[viscid swift]

what mobs exactly

[drowsy gust]

OP siren

[wind hazel]

Perseus

[sweet delta]

Aquila Luna Perseus/unicorn

[strange sphinx]

any replacement for Luna?

[soft raft]

2 preloads in your backline
which are often a combo of either DB Aquila, Perseus, Unicorn, or Luna

or alternatively Preload BBs like Richy, Gasco (iirc she has one), and Alsace

[sweet delta]

Independence, impero, akagi muse, or amagicv+akagimuse

[wind hazel]

independence, akagi muse, whatever fast ship

bearn meta also pretty nice

[void garnet]

is helena meta better than regular

[soft raft]

No

Realistically Helena META is fleet tech fodder

[void garnet]

which meta should i go for first? just unlocked it

[strange sphinx]

question, Should I buy a T3 META book in the meta shop or no?

[viscid swift]

doesn't really matter

[soft raft]

doesnt really matter
the majority of Showdown/Dossier METAs have good fleet tech

[drowsy gust]

please recommend good BB with good preloads

[wind hazel]

optional

[drowsy gust]

good for mobbing in op siren

[soft raft]

not really needed
esp if you dont have enough crystals to get the cruise pass and event METAs MLB

[viscid swift]

I don't but if you have nothing else to spend them on then sure

[void garnet]

does meta fleet tech go int othe factions or their own meta tier?

[viscid swift]

META ships give META faction points

[soft raft]

the tech points go to their own faction
fleet tech bonuses go to all applicable ships like they do for other faction's fleet tech bonuses

[void garnet]

gotcha ty

[viscid swift]

I mean just about anything works, I use my OpSi mob fleet mainly to level stuff these days

[sweet delta]

BB with preload is slower than CV(L) with preload

[soft raft]

tho if you want your mob to clear difficult content like Strongholds as well, then you cant exactly get away with levelling fodder

[viscid swift]

What you have a 2nd fleet for

[strange sphinx]

I mean, the only thing that META ship is Fusou(?) (the Black cat BB IJN)

[soft raft]

Fellow Alsace preload user 🤝

[wind hazel]

cheeky what's your other 2 fleet, both CV?

[viscid swift]

which is actually still technically leveling fodder for me

Cross fleet and semi half baked BB boss fleet for finishing any remaining abyssals

my fleets do change a bit throughout the month

[wind hazel]

[forest palm]

it's weird to use more than one fleet

[drowsy gust]

Why is Luna good?

[crisp estuary]

[soft raft]

Honestly sometimes I wonder if I should even bother with my Anti-light CV fleet and just replace it with crossfleet spam

[viscid swift]

50% cooldown reduction on her first 2 airstrikes

as someone who hasn't bothered with setting up "proper" fleets for months now
just wait until you get high enough adapts and steamroll abyssals and such with any half-put-together boss fleet

[forest palm]

never made an anti-light fleet for ops, never saw the need for it

[crisp estuary]

[forest palm]

you can in fact kill everything through sheer brute force

[strange sphinx]

[drowsy gust]

damn shes good

[soft raft]

Assuming that both researches are the same rarity, would you take the DR Face or PR Face?

I've always done the DR one to get the prints, but I feel like you could arge to get the PR one to get the PRs done faster

[rocky fjord]

PRs havent mattered for top content for ages yeah?

[forest palm]

I've always just taken DR Ds over PR Ds

[sweet delta]

No ship has mattered for top content then

[soft raft]

im mainly talking about from the perspective that getting PRs done faster and let DR ones show up more often

[sweet delta]

Ignore the one DR project so that later you can get 0.2 more DR project

Negative trade

[undone plover]

I would think since G/H research gives PR as well and since they reach dev30 sooner taking DR would be the prio

[viscid swift]

in the end it doesn't really matter but I always aim to get the DRs done so always DR faces

[soft raft]

ight
sounds about right

[viscid swift]

not to mention every event it's 30 PR prints vs 10 DR prints in the shop

[wind hazel]

i have superstition that DR face might give higher gear print in return than PR face

[viscid swift]

or put it like this about 10% of a dev 30 PR vs like 2% of a dev 30 DR

[undone plover]

standout PR is probably shimanto tbf for ch15
and maybe anchorage overall

[obsidian ivy]

The handkerchief thing is useless yeah?

[viscid swift]

what exactly are you talking about

[sweet delta]

The aux

That i have no idea about

[soft raft]

the aux from the ongoing minievent

[viscid swift]

this? basically useless yes

[obsidian ivy]

Lol memphis

[soft raft]

character locked to a near-useless ship moment

[viscid swift]

CL reload isn't useless

[strange sphinx]

I'm tempted...

[undone plover]

if u mean cuz waifu cant help u
but if u mean cuz of her 120 tech then u probably have others to work on first

[strange sphinx]

The skill of Bearn META, Might use Independence

[plain saffron]

It's worse than toolkit even on memphis right, or 2% hp barrier is enough

[void garnet]

Worth?

[viscid swift]

Well if I'm reading it right it's a once per battle proc

[languid reef]

when do people usually start stacking their coins up all the way to 500k?

[viscid swift]

When they've pretty much finished everything that needs coins

[viscid swift]

Up to you

[void garnet]

Hmm kinda wanna get august

[ivory pawn]

Getting a PR4 ship sooner will be a nice boost, but it's also something you will eventually reach regardless.

AvP especially, if you pull the next event banner, might not be as far off as you think.

[stark quiver]

After buying all the gem packs with 2x bonus, which next options are best for gems

[void garnet]

Do the 2x bonus reset

[ivory pawn]

Trade License > $80 gems > $40 gems > so on.

2x bonus resets. If you're not planning to whale, ideally just wait for it.

[soft raft]

Yes every Anniv for your server region

[stark quiver]

Thx I’m tryna get 2 oath rings, but the cheaper options are gone

[ivory pawn]

If you're really patient, every so often we get a 2 for 1.5 deal for oath rings in shop.

[stark quiver]

Yea praying it’s soon
Tho I missed the one when ancho got a skin

[void garnet]

When’s aniv for lil enterprise

[strange sphinx]

[soft raft]

Little E is part of the EN region so August

[strange sphinx]

Lexington?

[undone plover]

if u only care about gems then trade license is 62 gem/USD
2x bonus are all ~120 gem/USD
lucky bag if u get lucky with the L2D (and want it) is worth ~106 gem/USD
lucky bag if u dont get lucky with skin is 67 gem/USD

normal gem bag with no 2x is 92 gem/USD for 80 dollar pack
and 82 gem/USD for 40 dollar pack

one interesting deal was the paid UI + gem pack
it was 3060 gem for 37 USD which is also ~82 gem/USD
Meaning u get the paid UI and equivalent gem to 40 dollar gem pack (with no 2x bonus)

so max value imo for gems is 2x gem packs > 80 dollar gem pack > UI pack > 40 dollar gem pack > trade license/lucky bag

[soft raft]

I don't want to repeat myself but I say region for a reason

[strange sphinx]

[soft raft]

All the servers you see in the server selection are all part of the same region

[strange sphinx]

Oh well then SEA

[undone plover]

also the event stream announced double oath ring deal (oath crate)
so dont buy yet and wait for event

[sweet delta]

There's no SEA region

[viscid swift]

there's 5 regions

[ivory pawn]

We get oath rings for free too, right? Even if only like once a year.

[viscid swift]

Japan, China, Korea, Taiwan, and everyone else(Global)

[sweet delta]

we are wishing well

[soft raft]

yup
free oath ring every anniv

[undone plover]

1 per year for anni event
we also got a bonus one this year for 3d dorm release

[strange sphinx]

hmmm idk but I'm from Philippines but if no SEA, Then global I guess???

[soft raft]

most likely yeah
especially if you have EN region server options avaliable

[ivory pawn]

Neato. Ty. Guess I shall be patiently waiting.

[spark ridge]

With the upcoming event, is it best for me to not spend the money and cubes for brest, because even if I did, I don’t have all the xp done, and even if that was finished during event, I only have 300 bps for her so it’s not too useful yet? Or is it semi important to get started on the next research because of time gating ? (I have no clue who to get yet)

[soft raft]

how many cubes do you have right now?

[undone plover]

coin wont be an issue if u are active
how many cubes do u have?
u can skip for now tho sure

[sweet delta]

= EN/global

[crisp raven]

the stream for the new event showed a double ring pack. but i forget if its this upcoming update or next week. i kinda dont want to search and backread the stream chat.

[hardy cape]

im back and I believe I have a question with an obvious answer, but if you can get the ship from the guild shop (unicorn) for limit break, do i wait for tommorow or use bulin?

[undone plover]

show current fleet
how many guild coins do u have?
how many purple bulins do u have?

i would personally use a bulin
and use the guild coins to get gold plates and other useful things in the guild shop

[hardy cape]

8 uni bulins and 2200k guild coins

[undone plover]

uni bulins
i would get a portland/penny copy if u wanted to save on bulins
cheaper and serves the same purpose

[hardy cape]

i uh… i got 5 extra portlands just from farming exp lol

[keen sable]

why do you have kirishima and penny. maryland is far better investment. but what's done is done

[hardy cape]

dont have mary

[keen sable]

guild shop exists

[undone plover]

i would not invest in kirishima
if u are indeed on amagi try and get enterprise from medal shop

[hardy cape]

on cooldown

[keen sable]

tap refresh

[hardy cape]

thats what i was going for

[viscid swift]

Unicorn and Helena take up one round already remember

[keen sable]

they already had uni

[undone plover]

nelson is also another good option u can raise if u have her

[hardy cape]

already did for the day

[keen sable]

did you buy a uni dupe or something?

[hardy cape]

i did before becoming informed

[undone plover]

it is ok not a big deal
it is actually not bad but i personally prefer longterm investment and getting gun/plane gold plates

[keen sable]

maryland is a far better long term investment than penny

[viscid swift]

gold plates are the one thing you can practically never have enough of

I could go 50/50 on Maryland to be honest

[undone plover]

isnt nelson better?

[keen sable]

you can't get nelson...

[viscid swift]

you're looking to wait at least one round of guild refresh to get her and either way she's still gonna be 2nd to Nelson for retrofit mats and like 5th at least in the queue of retrofits overall

[keen sable]

they had a awful beginner fleet with unicorn. the purchase should have been maryland helena portland not uni dupe helena portland penny

even then you could still buy penny to displace kirishima

[viscid swift]

well what's done is done

[nimble cedar]

Do ships at level 125 still produce exp for priority ship research?

[keen sable]

[viscid swift]

hmm?

[keen sable]

I concur

[spark ridge]

Like only 170, and coins only like 60k (which gets spent on bps and also during event coin income gonna be much lower since not farming 12-4 right)

[undone plover]

pause her development
u can still grind the xp parts
but if u are done go start another one and grind the xp portions
u can come back to finish the cube/gold parts later

[fair lance]

When you pause development it still gets the xp?

[undone plover]

no, i mean finish the xp part THEN switch to another one

[fair lance]

Ah

[undone plover]

u can also switch before finishing the xp, even leaving it on 30% for example the progress will be saved
but if the issue is with coins/cube then no reason not to finish xp first before switching

[patent raft]

In shipyard, how do i get more tech point in different nation?

[eager mulch]

obtain, max limit break, and level 120 ships of that nation

[patent raft]

Everytime i increase max limit break like eagle union, it gain more tech point?

[eager mulch]

yes

[patent raft]

And what happened if i delete that maxed limit break? Does it decrease back?

[viscid swift]

No

[elfin hollow]

no

[eager mulch]

no, you keep the tech points

[patent raft]

Oh thank for help

[eager mulch]

i go sleep now

[patent raft]

Zzz

[elfin hollow]

wake me up when new patch is live

[patent raft]

Last one: how much gain tech point when i increases each different rarity ship when i max limit break?

[atomic abyss]

Depends on hull type as well as rarity

[sweet delta]

Check wiki for specific point values

[atomic abyss]

Also depends on the specific faction

[patent raft]

Ok

[spark ridge]

Oke thanks

[sweet delta]

/wiki admiral hipper meta

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Admiral_Hipper_META

[viscid swift]

Still haven't worked out how tech point amounts are decided

[patent raft]

Alright. I just... Keep finding it

[tropic tusk]

Is there any Eagles union healers?

[patent raft]

Use fire extinguisher for healer

[fickle hollow]

will there be Bismarck Zwei rerun ?

[viscid swift]

Not really

[viscid swift]

Eventually yes

[patent raft]

Oh i found the answer tech point value. It's from fleet technology actually

[tropic tusk]

Rip

[tropic tusk]

Ya but U won't know till U get/unlock those stats so use this and type in their name instead https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Azur_Lane_Wiki

[viscid swift]

Ihhh

[patent raft]

Alright....

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

Fleet tech page has an entire table towards the bottom

Listing how much each ship from each faction gives at what levels

[patent raft]

Yea. The things that i red circling it's actually tech point

[viscid swift]

I'm aware

[tribal frigate]

my wet dream

[viscid swift]

But the wiki table is overall superior

Because it organizes which give the most to the least

The in game fleet tech page does not do that

[tribal frigate]

is koumakan the best guide web for now?

[viscid swift]

It's a wiki not a guide

[coral karma]

Any advice for grinding the xp for shipyard ships, trying to get agir now but xp is the problem

[tropic tusk]

w12-4

[coral karma]

Darn I'm not that far... played for like 3 years off and on but practically ignored the main campaigns

[viscid swift]

Get to w12 first and then grind for XP

[tropic tusk]

damm u have been slacking i only play 1 year already 14-3

[viscid swift]

Or on d3 of the event that is dropping in a few days

[tropic tusk]

isnt it tmr?

[coral karma]

I guess I gotta get to w12

[tropic tusk]

oh wait the cd timer for new event

[viscid swift]

Depends on where you are day after tomorrow for me still

[wind hazel]

there's no cooldown anymore

[coral karma]

Not too far, on 9 atm

[tropic tusk]

oh theres no timer gate keep anymore?

[viscid swift]

Nope

[tropic tusk]

nice

[wind hazel]

have you not played past few events...

[tropic tusk]

i did play but i didnt relise it lol

[atomic abyss]

Only old reruns still get the timer

[tropic tusk]

oh well

[stark quiver]

not needing to do a stage 4 times for a clear is rly something
these new gens

[tropic tusk]

qol

[clever lance]

Is there a UR event coming soon?

[viscid swift]

Double UR event this Thursday

[clever lance]

DOUBLE?

[soft raft]

Yup
maint for it starts in like 26-ish hours
see #jp-eoy2024-livestream-discussion for more details

Yes double UR event
the third time this has happened

[clever lance]

how am i gonna get enough material to upgrade all that lol

[stark quiver]

by playing the game

[eternal moth]

Same way all of us do: progressing and then sitting in 12-4 farming

[clever lance]

12-4 is the best?

[strange sphinx]

[clever lance]

I thought 13-4 was

[eternal moth]

12-4 is much easier to farm with terrible ships

[stark quiver]

12-4 is more flexible with your ship options

[soft raft]

it just takes lots of time
but to go into detail

• Max of 6k Specialized Core income per month (5k monthly grinding cap + 1k in medal shop)
• 30k Event pt milestone reward during UR events (15k pts on reruns)
• Lvl 100 reward on the cruise pass (No need to buy it)
• A one-time reward from specialized core missions

[clever lance]

Would it be worth pulling beyond one of each copy with all my cubes to try and get more

Or just save cubes? I have just under 800…

[slim hinge]

Can someone please tell me where I can view my account data that displays how long I've been playing AL? I can't remember where it is.

[sweet delta]

only in-game during anniversary event in August

[slim hinge]

I see. Thanks.

[stark quiver]

1 copy is enough, your cubes are more valuable

if u spend all cubes, you migh not be able to pull for next events/another Ur/rerun

[crisp raven]

better to save. bulins are common enough, but cubes are more precious. all it takes is one unlucky event without a pity to lose your stock.

[soft raft]

it's not worth it chasing dupes
at most you're just saving time, there's no pratical justification for raising dupes, especially UR ones

[clever lance]

Should H research that uses cubes be avoided?

Apparently it’s second best… but at the cost of previous cubes 😦

[stark quiver]

yes ofc, unless you have like 1800+ cubes i wouldnt do them,
tho taking an occasional one because of bad research roll is fine

[soft raft]

[strange sphinx]

[clever lance]

😵

[bold cove]

From 1000 cubes to 1800+ cubes to safely do H research... Long way to go

[stark quiver]

are there any best gun for medium armor on bbs, or just AP and whatever syncs

[soft raft]

Good ol reliable Champy gun
Tho Soyuz gun beats it in terms of stats but at the same time you can currently only have one Soyuz gun

[ebon pendant]

i have way too many sr bulins can someone tell me what to do with them

[keen sable]

use them or scrap them

[ebon pendant]

apart from the obvious

i mean more so if someone could help me decide on which ships to use them on

[keen sable]

you can post your dock in a thread for exact help

[ebon pendant]

sr bulin investment plan

[round abyss]

what am i missing out on by not doing operation siren? i have been playing since january and have hardly touched operation siren after reaching level 60, now I'm already level 120 and just wondering what i lose by not doing it for so long. one of the main reasons i dont do it is because it looked like it increased the time it took for me to complete dailies by a huge margin

[wind hazel]

you won't be able to craft some of the best gear in the game

[soft raft]

A good chunk of the best gear in the game is crafted with materials that exclusively drop from OpSi

[keen sable]

around 20% damage

[soft raft]

And said good gear can be very important to make your life easier in OpSi and pushing past W12

[strange sphinx]

what is soyuz gun again?

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(MK-1)#Type_3-0
(Gold rarity one)

[strange sphinx]

nvm, I don't have that

[clever lance]

Who the first PR3 ship that should be made?

[keen sable]

whoever you can if you don't mind the permanent loss of dock space

[clever lance]

I got roon, monarch, agir, plymouth, and fdg. Working on anchorage..

[wind hazel]

get AVP

[clever lance]

I was gonna do a PR3… because I still have that newcomer quest. And I’m stuck on the PR3 ship cause I didn’t make any yet

[keen sable]

all of them are useful in some way if only just for tech

you can do cheshire for the meta cope but she's been severely displaced by modern aa boats

[tropic tusk]

Is there any special way to kill her?

[pseudo phoenix]

does at least one CV should be enough to kill multiple Spiritships (and even severly damage Taihou META) that Taihou META summoned?

[fair nimbus]

is 200 cubes enough for the iron blood event ur?

[hollow gust]

Zwei Is the chest code

[stark quiver]

not enough to pity

[fair nimbus]

😭

the ydont give you enough time man

[stark quiver]

tho you still have the 2 weeks during the event itself

[clever lance]

Does fleet redeployment in opsi heal tolls of war?

[hollow gust]

They have given more then enough , we get close to 300 cubes a mon.

[rain vine]

yes

[elfin hollow]

helloooooo

what's your advisable rear ship setup?

2 BB's and 1 CV
1 BB and 2 CVs

or 3 BBs / 3 CVs

I'm currently using Albion, Cesare META and Rossiya

[grizzled sundial]

if it serve certain map , especially those with noticeably difficult gimmick , other than that go with what you want really :/

[barren tapir]

campaign prefers 1 bb flagship with 2 cvs

[exotic wren]

From a new account, assuming only doing daily pulls, how long till cubes stockpiles to 400? 2 months?

[barren tapir]

bit under 2 months if you play actively, say 6-7 weeks

[viscid swift]

2 months roughly yes

[barren tapir]

2 months is a safe estimate though, pretty easy to hit with just dailies and a couple comm checkins

[elfin hollow]

assuming you'd use gems, I'd suggest against paying the 300 Gem for 11 cubes

[exotic wren]

I'd have enough time till Feb UR then, danke guys

[barren tapir]

why would you use gems

[grizzled sundial]

don't use gem for cube ,stop right there

[viscid swift]

Well Yorktown 2 will probably rerun before then

[elfin hollow]

I know It's my worst mistake so far

thank god I only used up 600 gems

[barren tapir]

the only time it could ever conceivably be justified is for a collab ship you cannot live without, and only if you're willing to dump cash

[grizzled sundial]

do commission , lot of commission .

[elfin hollow]

there's the 5-8 coobs that takes 9 hours

[barren tapir]

wasnt yk2 soft confirmed for jan 9 to 16 or am i tripping

[grizzled sundial]

And hopefully the 1200 oils for 5-8 cubes drop

[viscid swift]

I have no idea what they said exactly so I can't say

[exotic wren]

UR? In January?

[stark quiver]

something something yk2 image

[elfin hollow]

Fritz IIRC

[barren tapir]

it should be before CNY event though i think following past patterns

[stark quiver]

thats this month

[barren tapir]

they also gave yk2 image and no CNY image so presumably it comes before CNY?

[viscid swift]

Well....

[stark quiver]

you never know

[viscid swift]

They typically don't announce new events in these streams

[barren tapir]

so anywhere between jan 2 and jan 30 could be yk2 i guess

[viscid swift]

Other than for the one they're doing the reveals

NJ was announced like 6 months before she actually reran

[barren tapir]

well we only have 1 precedent which is uvh event being jan 11-17 2024

can be somewhat likely to have it similar time this year for yk2, but no guarantee then

[eternal moth]

I gotta say, Musashi into collab into UR into YT2 would be really rough on cubes

[viscid swift]

Well some people are claiming they explicitly said a date like they did with UvH last year

[true kraken]

How is this build

[viscid swift]

I'll see if I can find an machine voice translator in the morning

[barren tapir]

judging by last year it's possible they could squeeze it between CNY and feb-march UR but that feels less likely

[hollow gust]

Pretty shit

[viscid swift]

Shit

[exotic wren]

That's uselessly rainbow

[true kraken]

Bro, I do my best already

[plain saffron]

Shit

[barren tapir]

CNY appears to typically run from end of jan until 3rd week of feb give or take, running up to a week break before feb UR

so it feels more likely for the rerun to happen in january before that, but idk

[plain saffron]

Just putting any shiny gear in slot is not best

[stark quiver]

thats not your best, thats just mindless rainbow spam

[viscid swift]

I mean I agree, just look at the schedule for the past few years but on this sort of stuff I remain cautious

[barren tapir]

3/5 against light armor. z flag trash, UR aa gun wasted on backliner who want staag for hit

[hollow gust]

Wait tommorow is event, I have to grind 200k

[barren tapir]

get grindin

[true kraken]

It's a rainbow, how is it supposed to be weaker than a gold, it is rarer

[viscid swift]

Well 2/5 for nerfing your own damage against light by using bow gun

[atomic abyss]

that's now how this game works yami

not all that glitters is gold

[eternal moth]

And I'm pretty sure they know that

[exotic wren]

That's now?

[atomic abyss]

the z-flag is particularly shit

[barren tapir]

oh i didnt see the augment yeah use an officer sword 2.5/6 then currently

[hollow gust]

Gonna take like 10 hours

[viscid swift]

My dude, i know you've been playing long enough to know higher rarity doesn't automatically mean better in AL

[atomic abyss]

he has yes

[true kraken]

It just doesn't make any sense

[barren tapir]

i feel like you learn this from like the first week if you ever stumbled upon ectl or sam guides

[limpid warren]

It’s funny numbers instead of funny colors with this game

[atomic abyss]

it doesn't, but that's the reality yami

[keen sable]

math makes sense. colors don't

[slow fox]

math mentioned

[stark quiver]

compared to a white shell , the zflag is shittier

[atomic abyss]

i mean we're also ignoring that it's nagato

[barren tapir]

i mean aside from the z flag, all of the UR gear is the best...just not necessarily on that particular ship nor for all circumstances

[viscid swift]

Skill issue honestly

[keen sable]

how do you even know what color a rainbow is. maybe its turd colored

[ember totem]

[barren tapir]

the +13 on that z flag also hurts my soul. that could've been like what, 3 white shells?

[elfin hollow]

is little cheshire unobtainable?

[true kraken]

You saying that cuz you not grind enough to +13 it

[barren tapir]

id rather +13 3x hp aux for my favorite dds over that

[exotic wren]

Even my old account barely got +13 and I used to be an addict, that's wasteful even in my eyes

[stark quiver]

or you can do both

[slow fox]

No, just +13 rudders.

[keen sable]

🍿

[barren tapir]

i mean +13 z flag is just dumb. i am all for +13ing minor ass shit to pamper your waifus but maybe make sure you're upgrading something that's actually good on them

[stark quiver]

but the +13 is arguably wasted on a shit gear
so

[barren tapir]

it's not arguable, who the fuck uses z flag unironically

[atomic abyss]

yami, for +13-ing a rainbow gear, you can +13 3 gold gears

[true kraken]

Mikasa?

[atomic abyss]

and in z-flag's case, not even mikasa uses it

[plain saffron]

But then why it's not on mikasa

[atomic abyss]

it's just THAT shit

[keen sable]

that's way too much math. can you explain it in color

[atomic abyss]

it's not about "not grinding enough"

[barren tapir]

sure for waifu purposes

but it's not being used on mikasa clearly

[atomic abyss]

it's about grinding *and *using it efficiently

[plain saffron]

I +13 gears for sara but in this case the gear you +13 is worse than other +10 gear

[keen sable]

dw you can have 3 +13 z flags

[barren tapir]

and even for mikasa i feel z flag kinda cope

[elfin hollow]

how many ships are completely unobtainable that aren't collab

[viscid swift]

They're just trolling at this point

[exotic wren]

A lot

[atomic abyss]

all non collab ships become permanent eventually, just have to wait
it's a lot

[eternal basalt]

A lot

Wait 2+ years and you can get most

[viscid swift]

At the moment a few dozen at least

[barren tapir]

like id be the first to +13 triple rainbow planes for sara for example if i could afford that and actually had them right now, but someday i will so but there's a difference between (un)reasonable waifu pampering and actual waste

[keen sable]

by definition pampering is a waste

[barren tapir]

not if you use them

[viscid swift]

It wouldn't really be unreasonable at all though because all the planes would actually be good

[keen sable]

so what difference does waste matter

are you saying that nagato can't carry 12-4? that's a bold claim

[viscid swift]

Using them on Saratoga may be a bit wasteful but you get my point

[barren tapir]

im trying to establish the very real difference between +13ing your waifu and +13ing shit gear for said waifu just to say you +13ed them (or full rainbowed them, same deal)

[keen sable]

it's all shit if it's not bis

[barren tapir]

gear swapping is a thing tbf...it's just that their home will be on sara let's say, and only taken off for hyper-meta content

[elfin hollow]

damn it looks like most of what I don't have but want are unobtainable. just how many childrens day ships are stuck in this hell.

[barren tapir]

also i cant be the only one who automatically biases gear to their favorite ships if left unchecked surely

[viscid swift]

It's usually my leveling ships

[keen sable]

that's how the game works. move on. ships don't go permanent for a long time

[barren tapir]

i just give those the basics unless i like them but i do run a carry with them just cos cogs will limit me, never exp

[viscid swift]

It depends on how you do things

Technically right now I am cog positive because I'm only focusing on vanguards

[barren tapir]

generally i dont mind having a backline carry since they run out before vanguards if everything ive seen here is to be believed

[stark quiver]

soon™️

[tropic tusk]

I don't have her yet

[viscid swift]

Just my Cruiser tech alone still outnumber the total number of main fleets I have left to level

Probably gonna get even worse in a few days

[true kraken]

Btw, is UvH still in top 5 BB?

[atomic abyss]

lol no

[viscid swift]

No

[true kraken]

Smh, this game is old

[atomic abyss]

uvh is 3 years old

the game is 7

[wind hazel]

uvh is top 7 BB 🙂

[true kraken]

Still no Aug?

[atomic abyss]

no URs have unique augs lol

unless you count sandy i guess

[true kraken]

It's been 3 years, what is going with these people

[atomic abyss]

it's called powercreep

[hollow gust]

It's been years and yet you still troll in gph

[keen sable]

is that a gameplay-help question?

[little tree]

Will there be a Pr6 Newcomer missions soon?

[viscid swift]

Probably late January

[sharp socket]

is sushi good at medium

[elfin hollow]

would this amount of cubes be enough for the first few days of the upcoming event?

[wind hazel]

maybe

[bold cove]

UR banner is heavy/special build, so it cost 2 cubes/pull

[quartz jungle]

What is going on with your screen color

[junior walrus]

How do UR events differ from the most recent event for the collab characters?

[elfin hollow]

I'm running colorblind mode for red-green

[elfin hollow]

IIRC UR events don't stack on pity (the UR Exchange)

[wind hazel]

there's a pity for UR banner

[elfin hollow]

so It's a massive setback to me since I prioritize getting Shinamom but hey, it's Fritz so I'd take it as a detour

[wind hazel]

that's about it, difference is you can pity UR. you cannot pity on any other event banner

[elfin hollow]

how do meta ships from cruise missions work? are they eventually obtained another way?

[junior walrus]

Do we know what UR it is?

[wind hazel]

#game-news

[elfin hollow]

Current Battlepass META is only obtainable via Battlepass

IIRC

the other copies would end up as "Limitbreak chips"

somatic activation thingy

[wind hazel]

dev talked about them returning in the future, but that's all we got.

no way to obtain past cruise pass META as of now

[elfin hollow]

wow

I'm actually panicking on getting the final Cesare copy to finish the Limbreak

[atomic abyss]

Mori what

[wind hazel]

what

oh is the yamashiro etc added from cruise pass? lol

[atomic abyss]

they have been adding old cruise pass meta ships to shop since like, last month

[wind hazel]

i guess they are adding it

[elfin hollow]

oh phew

[atomic abyss]

older ones added to meta shop eventually
there are currently 4 cruise pass metas there

[golden moth]

Guys is there any guide to which ships to be scrapped..coz my dock space is.suffering now..

[wind hazel]

*other than the 4 ones, no other way of obtaining the rest

there

[wind hazel]

if they can be easily obtained, feel free to retire. cross check on wiki

[elfin hollow]

Close your eyes and don't feel bad with the scrapping. that's the first step

then just decide which ones to scrap. I'd suggest on starting with the greys and follow upwards in rank

[golden moth]

The al wiki..hmm ok ok

[golden moth]

Ok ok got itttt

[elfin hollow]

actually if you have under-enhanced ships of higher rank, I suggest using them (the ones you wanna retire) as enhancers. Assuming they have higher levels, they'll boost your ship's stats

[golden moth]

I see thanks..big help

[wind hazel]

common ships=use them to enhance
rare, elites=retire for medals or keep for other purposes

don't use rare and elites to enhance...

[golden moth]

Noted.noted

[elfin hollow]

oh so it takes like 2 years to go from cruise ship to available?

and don't use Bulins

very grave mistake for me

[junior walrus]

Wait so new UR is a new unit?

[elfin hollow]

Aviation battleship? or the other way around?

[golden moth]

The new UR are carrier and dd

[hushed dawn]

Is it too early to ask for fleet advice against METAihou?
Cuz I know Lv. 15 starts tomorrow but I'm already making my fleet beforehand.

[coarse heron]

Well she’s heavy armour and seems to stand still a lot

[grizzled sundial]

She not moving much , and all damage to her minion also direct to her , it torp time

[coarse heron]

I might try Ibuki just to see what happens

[hushed dawn]

Anything I can improve here? Feel like the vanguard isn't optimized. I put Implac there cuz I noticed her moving quite a bit in the early stages, so she's there as a guarantee.

[grizzled sundial]

Should i invest in Noshiro ? Shep dropped for me in today daily gacha .

[coarse heron]

I just used Ark Royal but if you got Implacable she probably does a lot more damage than Ark Royal will

[hushed dawn]

So far the comp's pretty solid, able to one shot her at Lv. 14 but I'm not sure if it's gonna one shot her at Lv. 15.

[coarse heron]

Yeah I need better ships cause I can only manage getting her to 12% at best at lv 14

[wind hazel]

try to squeeze impla between amagi shinano

[hushed dawn]

In position or timing?

[wind hazel]

timing

[hushed dawn]

Alright, will switch up the planes.

[slow fox]

Legendary Chikuma usage moment

[hushed dawn]

Also is switching to VIT-2 vs Ryuusei a huge difference?

[sharp socket]

will +13 catapults or washing machine have more impact for w15

[hushed dawn]

Cuz I might try VIT-2 instead for this comp... assuming the timing isn't gonna be a huge change.

[inner delta]

is taiho 14 and 15 have that massive difference of a big stat? cuz the 14 is pretty easy to beat still

[wind hazel]

unsure but nugget was easy on lv14 as well, then we scrapped for few days on lv15 before we got the fleet to consistent 1shot

[inner delta]

huh mkay

[grizzled sundial]

The new item , precious handkerchief , i assume it affect memphis ?

[atomic abyss]

only og memphis

[mild crest]

should i be using these to lvl ships?

[tame jungle]

yeah but only up to a point, usually i stop at around 90 then just sortie the ships in 12-4

[mild crest]

are you using lvl 90 ships in the fleet to clear 12-4 once you got it down to safe?

[tame jungle]

yep

[mild crest]

like theyre all lvl 90? or one lvl 90 is being carried by the other high lvl ships?

[tame jungle]

with decent gear and full fleets, it shouldn't be all that difficult

usually 1 or 2 lv90s, since i rotate ships out once they're lv120

[wind hazel]

you can use whole fleet lv100, as long as they aren't totally dogwater ships with zero AA

[tame jungle]

if you're afraid of dying you can also go to 12-1 which is significantly easier

[mild crest]

this is what i got going rn but i just finished 11-2

[atomic abyss]

where's your unicorn?

[mild crest]

i have her sitting out cuz she's 125 already, am i trolling myself by not including her in the mob?

[atomic abyss]

when you're using shit ships as a result, yes

always push content with your best ships

[mild crest]

thanks, i'll assemble my godfleet

[wind hazel]

when you're pushing campaign, using unicorn is good.

you can leave her out if you're exp farming

or gold farm whatever it is

[mild crest]

yeah i wasnt gold or xp farming, just decided to finish up 11-2

actually can i make a thread and have yall give me some advice on what ships to take

Fleetbuilding for Mob/Boss Pushing past 11-2

[fair nimbus]

is san diego good? like should i keep her in my fleet

[atomic abyss]

eventually, extremely good with her retrofit and augment

however, those are not something you should prioritise as they are very expensive

consider investing in her when you're going to challenge w13
otherwise, you may have better existing options

[inland shoal]

Imo 21k for the aug isn't that expensive

[tame jungle]

aug+retro

[atomic abyss]

the aug isnt as expensive, the retro is

[fair nimbus]

so i should use her? i already mlb and maxed her retrofit

[inland shoal]

She's already pretty good with just the augment tho