gameplay-help

[undone plover]

cheeky it is 10 hour
the 12h comm is the garbage one with the "SR drop"

[tranquil rock]

ive never gotten 12h
only 10h

like ever

[undone plover]

yeah 10h is good if u cant play

ideally u spend oil to farm

[tranquil rock]

honestly i kinda dont use too much oil per day since i try to not deplete mood too much

[weary gust]

Use multiple fleets to farm, put farming fleets in dorm to recover morale.

[tranquil rock]

i so like a repeat triple sortie with HELP on and do whatever else until mood is too low to continue
then i opsi

[stark quiver]

mood is meant to be depleted
and dorm goes a long way

[tranquil rock]

i have 2nd floor dorm
and i dont rlly have many fleets

[undone plover]

yeah only worry about mood when game tells u to stop at 0 morale

[viscid swift]

this is how you know I haven't taken one for the past 3 years

[stark quiver]

i used to take them

forever coping

[crisp raven]

then you took an oil cap update to the knee

[weary gust]

I took them just to see what they might drop, don't think I ever got an SR from one.

[undone plover]

I dont think anyone has

[weary gust]

I assume it's a random ship from the medal pool or something?

[viscid swift]

a few have but I have better RNG finding silver coins still in circulation

[stark quiver]

dont be like me
save your mail
i used to open all my mail for the coins and spend the oil on curry

[viscid swift]

no one knows because so few people haven't gotten SRs to drop from them

[tranquil rock]

theres a new oil and coin bank now

[viscid swift]

I think San Diego is the one we know drops from that

[left owl]

Any way to prevent these messages from popping up?

[strange sphinx]

ah yes, the Old Oil dump

[crisp raven]

settings> options> reduce Tb guidance

[stark quiver]

and i spent the coins on perma pulls

[viscid swift]

Reduce TB guidance to on

[left owl]

Thanks

[strange sphinx]

[tranquil rock]

does that get rid of the "let's move on" thing

[weary gust]

Reduce TB yap

[tranquil rock]

dude i have like 115 naval curry
and i havent spent a single drop of oil on it

[weary gust]

I used to buy the curry for the exp bonus in dorm to maintain as many different bonuses at a time as I could (along with the food from the shop when it showed up)

[strange sphinx]

1k naval curry in the corner

[tranquil rock]

ngl i dont view dorm xp as worth it

just do it when you can fr

[weary gust]

Dorm exp is quite significant over the long run.

[stark quiver]

its a nice bonus
mainly i shove ships i dont wanna level yet

[viscid swift]

You guys still have dorm food that gives XP bonuses

[stark quiver]

i had a quarter million, its slowly draining

[weary gust]

Not anymore lol. Now I struggle to find ships to dump EXP books on every other week so I don't cap at 3k.

[strange sphinx]

early days of being lazy

[tired condor]

how long until ur event

[ivory pawn]

19th, like 2.5 days ish.

[strange sphinx]

Coin farming

[ivory pawn]

Something like <t:1734620400:F>. Don't trust it completely, I'm just guessing how long maintenance will be.

[eternal moth]

Add 2 hours to that. I almost guarantee it's going to be 8 hours and not 6

[ivory pawn]

But then it ends while I'm working.

Fixed tho.

[strange sphinx]

hmmm 20k in mail storage is enough right....

[eternal moth]

20k oil? Maybe. 20k coins? Lolno

[strange sphinx]

Oil yea

[stark quiver]

why use mail oil
when u get more than enough free oil

[eternal moth]

Not on new accounts you don't

[stark quiver]

theyre new?

[strange sphinx]

[eternal moth]

No, but I'm playing one

[strange sphinx]

I mean backup

[eternal moth]

I've been playing this second server for just over a week, I want to see if I can get the UR now. I have about 160 cubes, but coins are a serious problem

[strange sphinx]

coins is really a problem on new acc

plates also

[sweet delta]

If you don't do any coin research or awakening or limit breaking or whatever, then you should be or almost be able to do 300k coins with just login 10 minutes per day

[tranquil rock]

coins when i can press checkmark on a box and get a trillion of them
then they run out like insanely fast

[eternal moth]

How? I can't even get to 9-1 yet, as I'm only commander level 52

[sweet delta]

Two 1200 oil commission per day

[tranquil rock]

HELPs are a thing

but they drain your oil like alot

[strange sphinx]

not a problem for Vet players, not for Newbie, they want to fill those stars

[weary gust]

Helps reduce time, they don't get you more stuff in the end.

[ivory pawn]

Sure is helpful that newbies are mostly using R/E ships that are cheap to LB instead of SR/UR ships.

[stark quiver]

is lethal pass w15 possible with full fleets of only 0lb URs

[tranquil rock]

do they not double coin counts from clearing the stage itself
(not clearing rewards)

[viscid swift]

that's probably worse even than full IB....

[weary gust]

Double the cost, double the rewards = no net gain, only save time from running once instead of twice.

[sweet delta]

Considering that it's no healer

[tranquil rock]

possibly not
impossibly not

[tranquil rock]

you double oil cost, not coin cost
theres no coin cost for running the stage
therefore 2x coin reward

[stark quiver]

well, 0lb fleets, not only urs mb

[sweet delta]

Still no

[weary gust]

You spend 40 oil to get x coins.
You spend 80 oil to get 2x coins.

[viscid swift]

considering that still means no healer that's gonna be above level 70

[tranquil rock]

true
ehh honestly i have way too much excess oil
i have like 12k while the cap is 9k

[sweet delta]

Go try 0LB only in w13 to start

[eternal moth]

The softcap is 9k, you can hold up to 25k

[tranquil rock]

wait fr?

i cant collect the 2.7k my canteen makes tho

[weary gust]

You can't collect from merchant/canteen above soft cap. Can still get it from comms/mail.

[eternal moth]

That's what the softcap does.

[real jasper]

Is this good on Musashi?

[stark quiver]

hell naw

stay away from that

[real jasper]

the ammo type is bad?

[stark quiver]

the gun doesnt hit targets basically

[sweet delta]

It hits targets with a little confetti

[stark quiver]

funny shells

[weary gust]

wow 3561516 damage in one attack

[fickle flume]

that's the confetti cannon lol

[little tree]

~~ even with 2 new ur ~~

[real jasper]

so basically it

it is a meme gun?

[viscid swift]

yes

[real jasper]

but musashi dmg come not from that ammo I think

[eternal moth]

You really don't want to use a confetti cannon for anyone\

You're better off with the twin 410/410 kai

Or the PR7 gun

[soft raft]

Yes her barrage is pretty stonks, but you'd still want her salvos to actually yknow

exist
and do actual damage to other targets

[queen jackal]

should i bother staying in pr4 for a 2nd tenrai if its going into lab

[eternal moth]

I wouldn't until you finish the ships you need from the other series

[queen jackal]

yeah im on the tail end of agir as my last pr4 ship and im only 19/50 prints lol

[eternal moth]

Have you already bought the tenrai from the protocore shop?

[queen jackal]

yes

[grizzled sundial]

Do boss luck stat affect meta boss the same way it affect our ship ?

[real jasper]

The guide says that this is musashi best cl gun, is it better than the rainbow one?

[viscid swift]

no

[sharp socket]

457 comp on hiryuuM performed better when vanny didnt sync

[dreamy blade]

who would be a decent 3rd ship to use for grinding pr exp? with london and javelin

actually i guess i should ask am i supposed to skip pr3 and just start working on anchorage

[undone plover]

I would prioritize pr4 over 3 yes

[eternal moth]

If you can, yes

[dreamy blade]

i was gonna work on cheshire but ig i'll find another 14 uss tech points somewhere for ancho

[undone plover]

when u get sirius (if u havent maxed her already), she will be a decent 3rd HMS option cuz she is useful to raise
none of these ships have amazing 120 tech iirc

[soft raft]

155 works just fine
and no that is not better than the rainbow one, it's roughly the same as 155, which makes it not really that worth going for

[eternal moth]

14 should be pretty simple to find

[dreamy blade]

is she from medal shop? i havent seen her yet

[eternal moth]

Nice, a little over a week to get Unicorn retrofitted.

Not finished yet, as I need to keep working on Sara's retro as well, but the modernization is complete

[tranquil rock]

unicorn and saratoga retro are super goated

[eternal moth]

Yeah, I'm using this to give myself an idea of what it takes for a completely F2P new player to get to at least 9-1

[tranquil rock]

honestly i dont even know what i did but im kinda well off on oil and stuff except gear lab stuff
as a completely f2p player

and gear in general
as well as plates

should i save for independence to get her retro
or should i get black shell for bisz

[dreamy blade]

independence unless you already have a lot of solid cvs

[tranquil rock]

i already have a +13 white shell on her

[eternal moth]

Get shells, I'm not convinced Indep is needed anymore

[wind hazel]

[eternal moth]

3 retrofits of the same hull type is a LOT of grinding

Not that Indep is bad, but I think she should get pushed down the priority queue

[tranquil rock]

im currently trying to retro sandy and it is
EXPENSIVE

[eternal moth]

That she is

It's why we recommend people hold off on it until she's needed.

[soft raft]

That can wait until later when you're near W13

[dreamy blade]

UR retros be like

[eternal moth]

OLD UR retros. Yuudachi wasn't that bad

[tranquil rock]

im like at 11 so i should probably start gearing up for w12+ so i wont struggle

[eternal moth]

Yeah, you're getting to the point when it makes sense then

[tranquil rock]

gotta overlevel and curbstomp everything after all

[eternal moth]

The one thing I'm missing as F2P is the extra bonuses from cruise pass rewards. Those augment cores would be really nice

[eager mulch]

yuudachi is an outlier now that we got eld retro being expensive again

[tranquil rock]

honestly im just struggling with gear lab
i dont like the fact that getting materials is straight up rng and after you buy all the crates from that one shop in i think it was liverpool you dont get alot anymore

[eternal moth]

You also get drops twice a week from the daily raids, and those help

[sharp socket]

the rng becomes less of an issue the more you do it

[ivory pawn]

Arbiter, Hidden Zones, the Strongholds, and the Siren bosses are all massive boosts too.

[dreamy blade]

it's meant to be a longterm grind where you just accumulate all the mats slowly

[tranquil rock]

ye true
i am so close to crafting a firecrest so i can get wyvern
or i could craft a STAAG but i should probably craft wyvern first

[dreamy blade]

do you have the 9 UR aircraft prints for the wyvern already?

[eternal moth]

Definitely prioritize the Wyvern

[dreamy blade]

you can craft staag from depot with prints from research

[tranquil rock]

abyssal zones are just impossible for me when they start healing
if they start healing i lose
if they dont have any sort of healing perks i win

[tranquil rock]

no lmao

[eternal moth]

That means you need more damage

Which will come eventually.

[tranquil rock]

it just takes a long time
though i expect it to
but its a long and annoying process

[dreamy blade]

yeah the ur prints are the hard part for crafting wyverns, main source is from stronghold/c6 siren logger/arbiter

[eternal moth]

I like to tell people that this game is a marathon, not a sprint

[ivory pawn]

You'll get a couple every month in the Port shop too.

[dreamy blade]

yeah but 2 per month guaranteed when you need 9 is a little

[random rain]

do I need 125 fleets to attempt strongholds?

[tranquil rock]

me when i cant get enough of the special hexgon purple token things in opsi
i meed to for those ur prints in st petersburg

[dreamy blade]

no, strongholds let you go back to port and repair

[eternal moth]

120 fleets help, but you should be able to do it with slightly lower-level ships.

[tranquil rock]

oh yeah i said fuck strongholds after i tried it one time and got nuked

but that was way back when

[sharp socket]

you can cheese it by healing

[random rain]

ah I didn't know that, they don't reset when I leave them?

[tranquil rock]

i should be able to take on a stronghold now

[dreamy blade]

no only abyssals and harbiter do that

[eternal moth]

I also wouldn't attempt it if you don't have full adapts. At least not when you're first starting otu

[random rain]

I see, I thought they are like the siren loggers lol, thanks!

[tranquil rock]

yeah back then i didnt know that so i just got nuked and died
now i have a massive number of adapts above 203/203/156 minimum

and way better ships and gear

[sharp socket]

i wouldnt recommend it even without adapts if your fleet is good, i got demolished in a c6 zone with 0 adapts

[tranquil rock]

i need more BBs bc for my mob fleet im running triple carriers and saratoga is at 125 already

[wind hazel]

[sharp socket]

my fleet cleared it but everyone was red and/or tolled

[tranquil rock]

i need to move saratoga to my bossing fleet so she doesnt take all the xp but i have nothing to replace her with

[real jasper]

is the c5 abyss harder than the c4 abyss?

[eager mulch]

yes

[tranquil rock]

yeah

the c in c4 or whatever stands for courrption level so higher number=harder

[real jasper]

I can kill the c4 one after 1 reset, I'm not sure about the c5

[dreamy blade]

the enemy levels go up with c levels, 4/5/6 is 112/120/128

[eternal moth]

I'm just about to be at the point where all of my main fleet ships that give AVI, FP, RLD, or hit are 120. 1 ship left for FP, 1 ship I don't have, and 2 monitors. What do you guys do at that point, build up 3 million XP and then change?

[real jasper]

is that c6 come from the rainbow log we buy from the shop?

[soft raft]

No
C6 zones also spawn naturally, often towards the center of the map

[tranquil rock]

i find it funny how my mob fleet is SOMEHOW better at dealing damage to abyssal sometimes (haha triple carrier fleet)
especially enforcer concelment because of the STUPID DAMN HAHA I TELEPORT AND SPAM TORPS IN YOUR FACE SO ALL YOUR CRUSIERS DIE attack
too bad my mob fleet vanguard is all DDs

[dreamy blade]

generally the closer the node is to a port, the lower the c level

[wind hazel]

go for the next tech

[dreamy blade]

youre not done until you have max asw tech

[eternal moth]

So start on AA?

[wind hazel]

anything. i just leave them at lv100 with 2.115m exp, and focus on vanguard awakening

[eternal moth]

Well, that's only 3, that won't be too bad.

I still need to limit break those 3 though lol. They're all stuck at 70

[wind girder]

any tips for raising commander level? Can't progress the main campaign because of my low level

[wind hazel]

repeat sortie at your highest campaign, or do war archive

[fast steppe]

do ships that have hit the xp cap continue to contribute to research xp or no

[wind hazel]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[barren tapir]

it's 4 per month

there's also one time rewards from the file loggers in voucher shop. each one is a one time use (no need to buy all asap, basically) with an UR gear design selector as part of its rewards

so pretty easy to get wyvern on month 2 of opsi if you are actively doing it

[wind girder]

thanks!

[dreamy blade]

yeah the 1st one isnt too bad but after that

[barren tapir]

theres like 8 file loggers, so 3 months + those = 2 wyverns

ignoring all forms of drops cos yeah those are rng as hell

[wind hazel]

tl;dr, just do opsi

[dreamy blade]

i mean i only have 3 file loggers left unpurchased and that would put me at 7 aircraft prints

[grizzled sundial]

Anyone have some sort of cube usage plan each week ? Not the " which one is the best to spend cube on " , but cube spending plan on building ship , start cognition research , etc .

[wind hazel]

1 Light daily outside of event
cube research if you're loaded

that's about it really

[undone plover]

Spend cube on research if u have a lot, u care about min/maxing research and u have a bad selection of long(ish) research u cant refresh out of

Otherwise dont spend cube on research imo
Spending on occassional rainbow research is fine if u have 400+

If u have 2000+ maybe u can cube a whole season which means prioritizing blue and maybe purple cube research until all the gold ships are dev 30

[stark quiver]

be old so u can get +4 cubes everyday during reruns

[mellow cape]

It does eat up your cubes like crazyy

[eternal moth]

Yeah, that definitely helps.

Then again, I've been playing for 3.5 years and still don't have 2k cubes

[ornate bronze]

What meta ship should I focus on in the dossiers?

[eternal moth]

Whoever you want, none of them are really useful

[stark quiver]

u chase 100% collection hamaal?

[grizzled sundial]

I just do from top to bottom

[eternal moth]

Yeah, I only need like 4 more ships.

[sweet delta]

I recommend the easy ones (hiryuu ark Helena) so you use less oil

[stark quiver]

explains it then,
i only rly pull when ships are meta/have good tech

i got around 1000 cubes in the psat few months

[eternal moth]

Actually, LdV's event just passed right? I think I got her so I only need 3

[stark quiver]

still a bummer i didnt get roma

[eternal moth]

Albion, Attilio Regolo and Suffren.

Wait, Albion's perma now right? Maybe I get lucky and pull her in the next event

[stark quiver]

except im missing those + around a hundred ships

[mellow cape]

Im missing a ton of collabs characters after my break so I'm sitting on a 93%

[eternal moth]

Collabs don't count for collection

[eager mulch]

Collabs don’t count for collection

[stark quiver]

chances are the big % youre missing is retrofits

[mellow cape]

Oh damnnnn

Fuckkk I never knew LOL

[junior walrus]

These are story mode missions?

[wary hawk]

These are daily and challenge

[ivory pawn]

Red is.

Red's story. Green's daily.

[junior walrus]

Should’ve read the tutorial lmao. Thank you.

[ivory pawn]

There's also a red chest icon, might be what Sizoune was thinking of.

[junior walrus]

yeah im just looking at the github guide and it reads "The story marker are the red and green exclamation mark on the map", feel like it should be explained a little better

[wet badge]

Wdym

[fiery swan]

When's yorkii rerun

[hollow gust]

You just pull with vouchers, so instead of spending on light u dont

[hollow gust]

soon

[wet badge]

O

[stark quiver]

its a small amount, but adds up overtime

[vernal osprey]

What happened 💀

[hollow gust]

just open and close the game

[vernal osprey]

I think I should redownload

[hollow gust]

before you enter you can also repair assets

[vernal osprey]

Oh yeah, I forgor that button exists

[pseudo saffron]

Is the new animation the next ultra rarity? Is she worth it to pull

[bold cove]

Yup

[hollow gust]

brother there is no way we can know how she performs

[barren tapir]

most likely yes cos UR

[bold cove]

Pull UR first, think later... A wise man said

And its Iron Blood UR carrier, it only in fiction, too good not to pull

[stark quiver]

That doesn’t rly matter, this is a booba gacha game where URs are good

[bold cove]

Is there any UR ship are on the bench... Like sit there permanently?

[barren tapir]

warspite

[polar raft]

When is the update?

[stark quiver]

theres warspite retro
and by bench u mean in the current Al meta?

[plain saffron]

NJ does that already for some people

[stark quiver]

i mean Nj,uzh, drake and azuma basically

[coarse heron]

Ulrich is pretty niche as well

[whole crypt]

at this point for older players NJ and UvH are just crossfleet picks

unless a META shows up with a gimmick that favours them

[eternal moth]

Unfortunately I don't see NJ taking over any position from newer BBs. UvH might still have a place due to her shortened shot times.

[stark quiver]

Pew pew pew memes

what backline ships buff a bb's rld time

this is as fast as i can get uvh, any ways to make her faster?

[atomic abyss]

...hood has a backline wide 40% rld buff for a few seconds when she fires her barrage

Iirc there might be other fixed backline rld buffs but they aren't as potent

[stark quiver]

Thx ender

[lavish arrow]

Should I spend all my ur gear design on wyren

[atomic abyss]

If it's your first one, yes I would recommend it

[coarse heron]

God imagine the camera going to the BB animation every 6 seconds

[quartz jungle]

Proc the Rld buff for RPG interface as well, with 6 factions it's a 6% buff

[coarse heron]

First ever BB to hit shots per second

[quartz jungle]

Use Scharnhorst gun on Hood and Champagne and you get 1 BB animation every 3 secs

[coarse heron]

All of them doing 0 damage

[quartz jungle]

Also put Watarase and Eldridge in the fleet

[quartz jungle]

Or use Bismarck to improve Ulrich's Rld stat by another 12%

[stark quiver]

5.69s rld is so cursed

[coarse heron]

Imagine if you could get Triomphant enough reload to make her torpedos just fire on the absolute CD

[quartz jungle]

You can get quad mags to fire about 15 secs assuming Goldburn + oxytorp + Richelieu + RPG Interface I believe

[lavish arrow]

I'm on my 5th wyren. Should I make more or should I focus on other ur gear

[atomic abyss]

3 is more than sufficient

get your mk7s and 100 kais first

then UR AA guns if you're pushing to w15

[lavish arrow]

How many should I get of them

[atomic abyss]

hmm, i'd say 4 would be sufficient

[lavish arrow]

Got u

[strange sphinx]

how many MK7 do I need?

MK7 or 100 kai first?

[cobalt rapids]

1-2 want

[strange sphinx]

gotchu

[atomic abyss]

yep, 20% damage increase is pretty nice

[strange sphinx]

457 is also 2?

[cobalt rapids]

1-2 aswell yes

if u have musashi then just 1

[strange sphinx]

so MK7 then 457 then 100 kai, Ok

[atomic abyss]

457 is higher prio than mk7

[strange sphinx]

Gun or the ship?

[cobalt rapids]

ship

[atomic abyss]

the ship
no one uses the gun

[strange sphinx]

Ok I have one 457 and musashi

[plain saffron]

Z52 shop?

Or they didn't say anything in stream

[atomic abyss]

z52 shd be shop

[plain saffron]

Thanks

[cobalt rapids]

they showed her currency

[clever lance]

For opsi… after you clear the zone once and get one star, how do you get the rest of the stars to complete it?

[atomic abyss]

in short, doing the map again on explorable level, which can only be done in the next month

or doing the secured version for the hidden stars

it is not worth working actively towards

takes a good year of work to get all of them

[clever lance]

Oh

What is up with the “reset” every month then

[atomic abyss]

the reset has no impact on the stars

it simply reverts all secured maps to explorable, gives you a new bunch of strongholds, abyssals and a new arbiter boss

[clever lance]

How do you get enough AP to do it all

[atomic abyss]

you get way more than sufficient AP

you only dont get enough if you dont use the AP

[strange sphinx]

Wait is the key

Patience I mean

[clever lance]

You mean enough to explore the map every month?

Or to 100% it

[atomic abyss]

to explore every single map
to do every abyssal
to do every stronghold
to do every hidden
and clear the shop

you have easily another 2k AP to spare at least

[clever lance]

But when do you get all of that AP lol

Not all up front right haha

[atomic abyss]

what do you mean when
you get so much every day to use

you get AP refill boxes too

[final heart]

what should be my retrofit priority among these units, besides unicorn?

[cobalt rapids]

nelson

[atomic abyss]

unicorn, then portland then nelson

tho portland's shdnt take long at all

[final heart]

ty ty

[fluid umbra]

Another carrier UR, what is she good for?

[cobalt rapids]

rn she looks good
wait till datamine for stats

[fluid umbra]

No datamine yet? kk noted.

[final heart]

btw should I run straight to modernization for every ship first before going for sub nodes or should I fully unlock everything for unicorn first?

[atomic abyss]

modern + skill at least

[atomic abyss]

no datamine till the day of maint

[clever lance]

Unicorn, helena, and Portland carried me. I actually got laffey instead of z23. Not sure how much it matters. I’m also notttt a pro

[fluid umbra]

Starter 3 are all more or less the same.

[atomic abyss]

it doesnt matter much
starters drop on all campaign maps past ch1 anyways

[leaden turret]

Yo are we having 2 URs in a single event?
Are they both only obtainable from gacha?

[atomic abyss]

this is the 3rd event to have 2 URs
the 2nd UR has always been shop only

[leaden turret]

Ah thx haven't been around lately so that's new to me

[atomic abyss]

the other 2 events were in may and last december

[leaden turret]

I see, what were the ships?

[cobalt rapids]

alsace and mogador
guam and laffey

[keen mural]

The one in the shop will be a single copy or 5 like for SR?

[barren tapir]

2 copies

[cobalt rapids]

usually 2 copies

[keen mural]

Oh ok, thanks.

[bold cove]

Wow basically it cost 8 bullins to mlb for 2

[echo vector]

Will new event start on 19th december ?

Thanks for the info

[rain hearth]

so how long can we expect the event to be

[coarse heron]

the same length as always, 2 weeks

[rain hearth]

that's short

[strange sphinx]

that's enough

[coarse heron]

that's more than enough time to get 70k points

[strange sphinx]

~~Well if you're farming diligent atleast in theory ~~

[rain hearth]

if i earn 10k a day
i will only have 140k

coins

[wind hazel]

so earn 20k a day

[rain hearth]

wouldn't i run out of oil

[wind hazel]

maybe

[strange sphinx]

very good trade

[coarse heron]

in 12-4 I can turn 951 oil into upwards of 7k gold

[rain hearth]

last time i couldn't do challenge stage 5
even though my ships were lvl 100+

[obsidian ivy]

Huh it's 2 weeks?

Was I gaslit into thinking UR events are 3 weeks

[rain hearth]

in to love ru

[strange sphinx]

it should be 14k per run if I use the 2x thingy right?

[coarse heron]

JP and CN anniversary only

[obsidian ivy]

Makes sense

[rain hearth]

it uses twice as much oil

[coarse heron]

that sounds like a legitimate gearing issue if you can't get past W5 with level 100 ships

[strange sphinx]

but it gives double coins, more efficient if you want a fast gameplay

[wind hazel]

challenge stage 5 is not w5...

[strange sphinx]

[rain hearth]

the boss was level 126

or was it 125

[coarse heron]

okay what does that have to do with 12-4 then

[wind hazel]

it means he probably isn't at 12-4 yet

[rain hearth]

i may not be able to do 12-4

[rain hearth]

i have yet to do 9-1

[coarse heron]

level 100 ships is still enough to do oil capped stages

[strange sphinx]

[wind hazel]

go to 12-1 at least

[strange sphinx]

Bro, give us your Gear

[wind hazel]

12-1 is very free. end of w11 can be a bit issue if you got weak fleet tho

[strange sphinx]

we might solve it

[rain hearth]

should i stop divergent and play campaign

[atomic abyss]

YES

[rain hearth]

but i have only done it 32 times

[atomic abyss]

you shd only farm divergent that early on if you're literally unable to push harder content because of commander level cap

secondly, german event coming, which should provide you all the tech you need for fdg and agir without farming dc

[coarse heron]

speaking of, I should go farm 11-3 for Sendai

[rain hearth]

i see

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm does he still not have FDG?

[rain hearth]

i am level 75

[atomic abyss]

i dont think someone stuck at w5 would have enough tech for fdg

[strange sphinx]

man, How good is Choukai? (or the 12-4 Sr ship)

[atomic abyss]

🚮

[coarse heron]

Choukai? Not very.

[rain hearth]

challenge stage 5

[atomic abyss]

my dude

[rain hearth]

i don't know if that's world 5

[atomic abyss]

why were you trying to do tlr event challenge stage 5

[strange sphinx]

*sweating in the corner while stuck in W7 in the past

[coarse heron]

bro what is even going on

[atomic abyss]

with level 100+ ships

when the enemy is 120

???

[rain hearth]

1000 points mission

[coarse heron]

...

[strange sphinx]

Idk men, the conversation went south

[wind hazel]

i mean it was free, trying is no harm LUL

[atomic abyss]

yeah pretty pointless

[wind hazel]

just get your fleet ready to be able to farm D3, that's about it

hopefully the fleet requirement doesn't cuck you

[strange sphinx]

it did

[atomic abyss]

push campaign first

[coarse heron]

okay yeah I just got about 6600 gold from 3 runs of 12-4
man that was a good guess

[atomic abyss]

dc is a waste of time for you

[rain hearth]

about that
i only have 1 dd and cl that are high lvl

others are ca

[wind hazel]

only takes either high eva or high trp requirement and you will be facing issue farming d3 lol

[strange sphinx]

give me, need some coins for new Ship

[wind hazel]

this is why people generally recommend you to get to w12 ASAP, so that you can start building 2nd fleet

on top of coin income

[coarse heron]

Sorry I only got 300k I need to pull Rumey on 1st day

[strange sphinx]

[rain hearth]

my strongest characters

[coarse heron]

that should be able to push right to W12 man

[obsidian ivy]

You're overstaying at lower level places

[coarse heron]

that's almost enough to start 13-1

[wind hazel]

he can't get to w12 unironically

[strange sphinx]

*Sweating in the corner with 125 ships and stuck in W7

I mean it is not a stuck with gear problem... it is laziness

[rain hearth]

what is w7

[strange sphinx]

World 7

[atomic abyss]

world 7

[rain hearth]

wait chapter 7?

[strange sphinx]

yes

[left cedar]

why Uni mid ?
its a NJ 115 ...

and iirc that one on other side have a non centered barrage, so she wanna mid more than any other

[atomic abyss]

colo shd be middle

[rain hearth]

oh there was enterprise lvl 100
i switched it to show uni

[atomic abyss]

or is that weevee, idk

[left cedar]

i also dont know who is who of B7 Americans, thats why i dont try to name then

[strange sphinx]

[rain hearth]

colo is indeed center usually cuz barrage

[strange sphinx]

that's not mid position though

[rain hearth]

usually

guys
it's just a lot
3 staring each stage

it feels like homework

[wind hazel]

your problem

[bold cove]

Farming 12-4, eventually you will have enough copy to mlb her, then sell it

[strange sphinx]

nice, free medal

[left cedar]

Choukai is sad, she is worse than her 2 sisters Atago and Takao, and have bad Tech ...

Btw, Ata and Tako are also not a thing

[strange sphinx]

My old problem

[rain hearth]

i have 3 elite and 2 sr bulins
what do i do
not like i can spend gold at this stage

[atomic abyss]

push campaign

[rain hearth]

how would that help

though yes, that's the plan

[atomic abyss]

you get gems
you also level your ships

and you can maybe reach 9-1 to grind coins

[rain hearth]

i have done 8-4
so i have reached 9-1

[atomic abyss]

then maybe push to 12-1 so you can farm coins even more efficiently
and get PR grinding more efficiently done too

[rain hearth]

I'll be back (terminator)

[coarse heron]

You be Beethoven, I'll be Bach.

[abstract marsh]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[left cedar]

i already did 9-1 for a time to a friend, and isnt much worth it ur time and even less to who is progressing

cuz is a huge hold back on ur potential of time:Oil:Xp/Coin

[atomic abyss]

About 24 GB for Android
28 for iOS
Assuming all data in

If you don't download the 3D dorm, you save about 4-5GB of space

[abstract marsh]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[left cedar]

about 12gb-14gb iirc for who dosnt download assets at all

[plain saffron]

i don't think 3d dorm is that much

[atomic abyss]

It is

[sharp socket]

it is

[plain saffron]

it is?

[sharp socket]

sirius is big yes
-# on your phone

[plain saffron]

sirius itself not even 1 gb iirc

[steep bobcat]

hi, any advice for the warspite monthly boss challenge mode?

[wind hazel]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/december/

[rain hearth]

my saint louis is in fate simulation
should i turn her blueprints into proto currency or use it for fate simulation

[plain saffron]

280+mb

[rain hearth]

is proto currency worth it

[frank pulsar]

just convert and coin the rest of the bp you need

[left cedar]

w8, explain that better

[rain hearth]

what should i get with proto currency
wouldn't the gear be outdated by the time i have enough anyway

[left cedar]

convert can also be general BPs ... in Proto:coin matter i would hold olders general Prints to convert after D30 to use them for protocore

but once is about Combat Data Pack then its better to convert no matter wut

[rain hearth]

cdc?

[wind hazel]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[plain saffron]

it's not

not even 1gb

[left cedar]

my bad, i wanna mean Combat Data Pack

[wind hazel]

sirius not fat enough

[plain saffron]

yes i setup new emu to test this

[coarse heron]

AL is currently 26.18GB on iOS 17, dunno if it's bigger on 18

[wind hazel]

i have 15gb on android

[left cedar]

i have about that as well, but i got iirc 1 L2D and 5 other skins ... so probally less

[weary gust]

The number of skins you own doesn't increase the game's file size, they're all part of the game whether you own them or not, no?

[plain saffron]

depends on which setting you choose on 1st download

though if you have a ship it download all skin of that ship iirc

or that ship in story and you watch it

[obsidian ivy]

Patch note is out and it doesn't seem like there will be UR equip, rip

[weary gust]

KMS events never seem to have UR equips.

[coarse heron]

where
Chinese notes? or JP?

[obsidian ivy]

JP

[wind hazel]

https://www.azurlane.jp/news/661

[coarse heron]

Thanks Mori

We Steins;Gate now

[left cedar]

gear will be Quad Mag Improved ... wut is gud ... but nothing woa compared to wut we have

[coarse heron]

like this is just the Steins;Gate movie plot

[left cedar]

they Killed Kaga ... i already refuse to read AL Lore for long, but after knowing this i trully dislike alot more

[coarse heron]

looks like we get drone support and allied barrages on the stages

free IB fleet tech for newer players

[atomic abyss]

Who's noyo lol

[plain saffron]

if you didn't reinstall for a while it'll build up

[atomic abyss]

Also wait, sodak from a selector? Well that's a fucking scam

[coarse heron]

dunno that's what Google TL translated it as

グラーフ・ツェッペリン、ベルファスト、サウスダコタ、フォーミダブル、能代、ビスマルク、リシュリュー

those are the ship names in Japanese

[atomic abyss]

Noshiro lol

[wind hazel]

i don't download anything at all

[wind hazel]

just the base game, no additional downloads except for mandatory downloads from patches

[weary gust]

Raffy

[coarse heron]

desktop Google TL isn't very good okay

[atomic abyss]

That reminds me

I should go back to my TL work

[coarse heron]

rental skins are Fritz, Bismarck, and Agir

gonna be renting that Bismarck one

[plain saffron]

huh so alien?
wait wrong channel

new stuff to see all event stickers(?) and throphy, nice

[final heart]

is this better?

[left cedar]

both are wrose than Helldiver
no matter the content, and Ju is less worse

[final heart]

yeah I don't own any hellcat for now so I'll have to make do with ju

[atomic abyss]

I'm assuming you mean Helldiver not hellcat...

[left cedar]

oops., thks

[final heart]

oh I have 1 of these, is it better than seafang?

[atomic abyss]

Helldiver is a dive bomber
Always use them if you have them

Seafang and hellcat are fighters, they use different slots

[tranquil rock]

helldiver is just that good

[left cedar]

i made a mistake with names, my bad

[atomic abyss]

What can I say, the US air force loved h-e double hockey sticks

[final heart]

ok I got mixed up too
I meant is hellcat better than seafang?

[tranquil rock]

helldiver like like helldivers 2 the game

[left cedar]

about the same, almost impossible to notice in practice, but, yeah, Hellcat > Seafang

[coarse heron]

you can treat any gold 2x500lb bomb fighter as effectively identical

[tranquil rock]

whyd discord send twice almost 10 minutes later

[mental marlin]

can anyone create me a good mob and boss fleet?

[sharp socket]

mob: musashi unicorn independence anchorage sandy flex
boss: alsace shinano amagi agir mogador eldridge/flex
what content is it for though

[mental marlin]

13-2 +

[frozen inlet]

For research who should i go for August or Agir?

[rain hearth]

is ur chance still 1.2 in events
just the character within ur having more chances

[shell willow]

the only UR you can pull from event is the event UR and its 1.2% yes

[inland shoal]

August cuz you can coin her

[whole crypt]

UR events only have one UR in pool on rate up, perm URs are not part of the pool

for events with 2 URs like this one, only one of the ships is gacha (Fritz), the other ship is shop

[jaunty glade]

Do they give extra UR bulins as well?

[eternal moth]

They're even telling people this in-game

[tranquil rock]

paper carrier

[whole crypt]

every UR event has a UR bulin in milestone

[eternal moth]

Usually there will be a UR bulin as a point reward

[forest palm]

when majority of German Ships are paper ships, or Zs

[tranquil rock]

fr

[whole crypt]

there are no additional bulins for 2 UR events, but if you bother with the points there are 2 copies of the shop UR total

[tranquil rock]

fritz rumey is paper carrier wdym thumbs down smh

[eternal moth]

He means they had almost zero capital ships, so any UR main fleet released has to be a paper ship

[whole crypt]

probably people upset with paper ships too but I'm not here for naval history

[forest palm]

people actually care about that shit?

[ivory pawn]

Guam/Laffey had a bulin in milestones tho.

[eternal moth]

He means compared to non-double events

[tranquil rock]

meh not rlly

[ivory pawn]

Oh, there isn’t a second bulin. I’m sorry, I’m EN.

[plain saffron]

i guess that another copy is the replacement for bulin in milestone

[wet badge]

has there ever been any good meta ships

[whole crypt]

most of the SR METAs are not bad per se they're just not meta

[eternal moth]

A good number of them have seen use in some capacity

[forest palm]

most SSRs META that have released tend to not offer something better than existing ships

[crimson glacier]

whats up my gamers

[whole crypt]

sup

[whole crypt]

they don't offer much unique or outstanding but they're generally not bad

[novel solstice]

Is there some sort of bug on dorm morale regen? I have ships on the second floor of my dorm that currently are at 34 morale, despite not having done anything since last night which should be plenty of time for them to have gone up to max.

Even at base morale regen they should be higher than that from not doing anything overnight.

[crimson glacier]

did you restart the game

[novel solstice]

Oh, hey, restarting does fix it. Thank you. 🍝

[crimson glacier]

yeah that bug has been a thing since 2018

its pretty annoying

[somber charm]

can someone make me two teams that i can use to progress in story easily?

i can work on their level and stars

[wind hazel]

where are you now, in campaign

[somber charm]

lemme check

[wind hazel]

ngl your ships are very all over the place im having hard time to decide which to focus on for you

[jade spire]

Someone, which battleships are good here and i should prioritize building instead of spreading the materials?🫠

[hollow gust]

Musashi and Soyuz

[somber charm]

im on 8-3,i need the strongest possible teams with my ships🥲 🥲

[jade spire]

And among the SSR?

[somber charm]

@wind hazel im counting on you

[hollow gust]

You shouldn't need anyone else

[soft raft]

Tho Warspite retro was definitely a mistake

[jade spire]

Ig it wasnt when i did it

And which cruisers?

[hollow gust]

~~ she was outdated the moment Nj came around ~~

[whole crypt]

I don't think any of those 2 are going to out-tank Hime right? not that it really matters for 12-1 I guess

[leaden garden]

how good is retrofit juneau

[leaden garden]

They're smiling that's what matters

[whole crypt]

good budget AA for ch13 but tapers hard later
still somewhat useful for PvP if you don't have the top picks

[leaden garden]

Thanks that's good to know i hate those aircraft

[whole crypt]

San DIego is much better now honestly, good enough that I might skip on the "budget" pick unless you're really out

[sharp socket]

id not recommend juneau either and just go for sandy cause building specifically and only for w13 is kinda bad

[leaden garden]

oh alright thanks

[forest palm]

Sandy with Aug is already pretty good

[sharp socket]

while sandy you can throw her into w13, 14 and 15 and thus get way more mileage out of her

[leaden garden]

should i equip her with High Performance Air Radar?

[sharp socket]

no

just standard cl auxes, washing machine + toolkit

[leaden garden]

alright thanks

[leaden garden]

by washing machine did you mean the High Performance steering gear? 😂

[sharp socket]

probably that one yes

[rapid grail]

yes

[woeful pasture]

as a new player, will be worth to pull on the next event banner?

[wind hazel]

UR always worth pulling

[woeful pasture]

okk then

[wind hazel]

(ok maybe not on Kron)

[woeful pasture]

what is kron?

[wind hazel]

Kronsdhashraddatd idk the spelling, a UR CB

luckily for you the next rerun after this is yorktown II, also good to pull

[woeful pasture]

oh okk, and another question. it is normal for me to be impossible to win any exercise? everyone is 100+

[wind hazel]

yes very normal early on. just take the L and use all attempts

[woeful pasture]

okk, ty then ig

[wind hazel]

free exp and half merits for you, very good

[woeful pasture]

do we know if the new hero will be in the backline or frontline?

[plain saffron]

fritz is backline, Zsomething is front

[soft raft]

Z52

[soft raft]

Kronstadht

[plain saffron]

how people remember all of them

[woeful pasture]

thank you

[soft raft]

I only remember the good ones

[whole crypt]

Kronshtadt is still a fair pull as a new player

[viscid swift]

Kronshtadt

[whole crypt]

not that she's an option now

is there something I should know that's going on about aobuta

[plain saffron]

who, nvm

[left cedar]

russian sometimes its a nightmare to non russian writers

[inland shoal]

Well good thing her name isn't in actual Russian

[left cedar]

yeah, but things like
Oktyabrskaya Revolyutsiya exist ... for ur luck Al save us a bit from the headache and simple name it as Gangut

[grizzled sundial]

I dont understand the benefit of odin change her location during combat, she still get targeted by enemy shelling and some ships have special secondary that let her shoot at enemy from further away , like genei meta.

[left cedar]

on W14 once she is hidden her chance of getting aimed is none, literally, cuz she isnt where is supposed to be
also, on some places she also have a better stop power compared to other BBs cuz she is quite ahead an can start fire on enemies aproching early

[whole crypt]

it's a fancy gimmick but there's actually not a lot of practical benefit for most of the game

[inland shoal]

She can shield your flagship from harm and other units having them doesn't rly help her cuz she doesn't have secondaries that can shoot that far

[whole crypt]

the flagship shielding only applies to not a lot of attacks though

[left cedar]

isnt her ghost one of the most high range guns around ?

[inland shoal]

Yes that is true, but it still is better than nothing

[inland shoal]

Well her range is lower than Gnei M for example. Range + repos is about the same iirc

[gilded carbon]

Given they are the only CL i currently use, for Helena or for her Meta-version?

[whole crypt]

like literally not being hit by top/bottom lane BBs is the only real benefit in content that matters... but then you you don't need to use her in those stages either

[left cedar]

i would give a Ply gun to a BB instead Helena, her own damage is shit

[whole crypt]

depends on the BB though your top SRs might not be enough output for the FP to count

[gilded carbon]

And the Meta-version?

[inland shoal]

Helmet is a gunner so she'd like it

[whole crypt]

if rainbow BBs then probably

[left cedar]

i still prefer my Thurin instead Helena, cuz the dmg on both isnt noticiable

[soft raft]

She'd get benched because theres' realistically not that many worthwhile use cases for her besides tech fodder

Same goes for a huge majority of META ships, both Cruise Pass and Showdown/Dossier

[whole crypt]

for the record Helena META has a 15% FP buff but Helena has 5% higher MGE and slightly higher base FP

[bold cove]

Usually ppls start to stocking gold 1 day before new banner?

[remote quarry]

To be fair, Helena META was at least useful for the QE META fight

[left cedar]

i dont stock cuz i got several thousands in bank

[gilded carbon]

So just secondary for... Musashi?

[whole crypt]

you can start earlier depends on how much you want to stock and how long you don't mind wasting merchant

[left cedar]

Musa, Soy, FdG, UvH etc...

[bold cove]

If the bank mostly zero balance

[soft raft]

sure yeah

[left cedar]

them depends on ur self, if u are a casual, them probally monday or even sooner
if u are heavy grinder u can stay about the soft cap, and farm once events hits

[gilded carbon]

Sigh. Any Vanguard-Ship that makes better use of it

[remote quarry]

I usually go right up to the cap, spend on research each day, and replace from merchant. Then day or 2 before, farm up over cap

[keen sable]

You generally want to enter events with at least full coin. How you get there is up to you and whether you want to extreme overcap is up to you

[soft raft]

Depends on who you have
Which we currently dont know

[left cedar]

Ply mostly of time

[bold cove]

Hmm i think i dont need to stock that much, this will have D3 to farm

[remote quarry]

unless you want the ships day one

[gilded carbon]

In general.

[strange sphinx]

hmmm should Ievel Vanny?

[keen sable]

It's perm on helena...

[left cedar]

up to u, Vang nowadays isnt much a META since her dmg is low enough to things like Soy overshadow her buff

[keen sable]

Who wants to deal with swapping

[left cedar]

but Vang still a gud enough buffer for ur UR BBs, so if u like her and wanna use her, them yeah its worth it

[inland shoal]

Depends, but many go for 300k which 1 day will not be enough for

[left cedar]

Elites can be alot more cruel than URs ...

[bold cove]

300k is for pity?

[keen sable]

Spark yes

[gilded carbon]

It seems i Made a mistake getting the remaining bp for that gun then

[keen sable]

Also completely unnecessary

[left cedar]

right Yorck ?
since she is my topmost expenssive ship

[soft raft]

No not really
tho did you at least get 3 champy guns (406/50) and Tenrai first?

[gilded carbon]

No.

So yes, mistake

[left cedar]

them yeah, u shoot on ur own foot

[soft raft]

ok then that's where that would be a problem
but not a complete mistake

[strange sphinx]

I have 2 Tenrai now, Should I go and complete Plymouth or fs5 Haku firstl?

[keen sable]

~~Time to reroll ~~

[soft raft]

if you have Amagi CV, you can go for Ply first
otherwise sure you can FS5 Haku

[left cedar]

at this time i would go for Ply since Haky Coinable is quite soon

[gilded carbon]

I guess i can just reroll the Account then XD

[whole crypt]

is that 50 prints research and 50 prints shop

and are you done with the rest of PR4

[inland shoal]

Just put Plygun on your best CL if you use a CL for dps or put it on your BB if you don't

[soft raft]

There's no need to
it's not even that bad of a mistake in the long run

Now if you sold your Hedgehog or used Free gems on skins, that would be when you should restart, not buying things out of order

[inland shoal]

In the end you lost nothing, just a bit of time

[strange sphinx]

technically all them are dev 30 fs5 expect haku

[left cedar]

20 FP Buff is a thing, trust me ...
My Thurin hits almost equal to Vang in Guild Boss
diff is around 20k ...

ok, i buff her more than just 20 FP here, but the thing is, FP Buffing for BBs is a thing

[whole crypt]

if you got 2 tenrais with 50 shop and 50 research prints plus everything is done except Hakuryuu's FS I'd just move on and wait for coining for that

[quartz jungle]

FP buff is extremely relative to it's FP for a BB

[strange sphinx]

.yeah the first one 50 print shop and and the second is 50 research, so should I dev 30 Plymouth then?

[inland shoal]

For your average BB I'd estimate 20FP to be sth like 3% more dmg

[whole crypt]

yeh sure go for Plymouth

[gilded carbon]

Sold my hedgehog?

[strange sphinx]

[bold cove]

[left cedar]

yeah, but as i said, isnt only 20 FP ...
on her its more like 60 ish FP more to her almost reach Vang DMG

[inland shoal]

Yes, the ASW equip

[soft raft]

This thing
you only get one copy with no options to re-obtain it if you scrap it

[gilded carbon]

No

Thats Safe and secure.

[soft raft]

Good

[whole crypt]

honestly that's bad but I still won't say it's worth rerolling, you're giving up everything else on the account

[left cedar]

but on other cases 20 FP Buff in something like Soy will be more dmg than Helena using Ply gun ...

[whole crypt]

past collab ships, needing redo all your progression

and you know, if you got any free gems along the way that'd have partially paid for your skins to compared to just going from 0 again

[gilded carbon]

I dont scrap items i cant replace. And i dont have a reason to scrap it. One day i need to hunt Subs with it. Potentially

[inland shoal]

Since all you'd be using Helena in is bossing, I agree

[quartz jungle]

On Thuringen she needs a IB secondary gun to proc her skill why are you using a non-IB secondary gun on her specifically?

[gilded carbon]

Im bad with names, sry

[whole crypt]

damage from q152 is nice on Helena it's just likely not the most you could squeeze out of the gun

[left cedar]

1. i like her
2. buff FdG DMG cuz i like her more than anything

that is it

[inland shoal]

Tbh in guild boss that skill won't trigger either way

[soft raft]

The skill sounds pretty whatever anyways tbh

[left cedar]

and it is ...

[soft raft]

esp if it's how I think it works and only works on the secondary

[quartz jungle]

True

[strange sphinx]

I only need one Plymouth gun right?

[whole crypt]

you need 0
you want a lot

[quartz jungle]

If you have like 4 Plyguns then go ahead, but not sure how buffing Thuringen relates to FdG

[bold salmon]

what about using the q152 on ca like napoli?

[quartz jungle]

Unless you mean plyguns in general

[strange sphinx]

huh?

[whole crypt]

4 q152s is not enough

[inland shoal]

You need 0
You can use at most like 12 at the same time if you bring 2 fleets with triple CLs and trible BBs

[soft raft]

lower prio compared to main gun slots

[whole crypt]

you don't need q152s specifically for any CL gun situation, it's the best but you could make do generally with the lower options
you want as many as it takes to fit out whatever ships that can use it that are actively on duty

[strange sphinx]

oh well, I might completed it while making Plymouth dev 30

my grammar is not grammaring

[left cedar]

her 1st Skill buff KMS/SMS ships, also i like her more than any CL

i agree with nntktt, cuz i have like 6 BBs oaths, so i need at least 6 Ply guns

[inland shoal]

Don't forget 3 more or so for the levelling fleet cuz what is swapping gear

[whole crypt]

I actually don't bother fitting rainbow guns on leveling vanguards

[left cedar]

i only care about top notch guns in my Oath ships, all others are at least top 3 guns for them

[remote quarry]

Levelling ships farming 12-4, I just use whatever spare gear i have.

[rain hearth]

i mean when spare is gold

[remote quarry]

Unicorn usually wipes the nodes anyway

[viscid swift]

I do

[remote quarry]

0Even some old purple gear can be fine

[hot lion]

Can anyone help me refine my teams? Ive been gone for a few years. I went through some tier lists and favourite some of the high tier ships i have. Which are:

Can also show my full roster incase i missed something

[inland shoal]

Well URs are still not great without full stars

[whole crypt]

I'm not about to craft another dozen rainbow ducks
also is there something new going on for aobuta

[hot lion]

There are my current fleets

[hot lion]

I have a UR bullin ready to be earned i just wanna know if i should keep any of my URs

[viscid swift]

well no Unicorn is automatically bad

[hot lion]

by the time URs released i had mostly quit the game and just joined back to roll a few times again

[inland shoal]

URs are strong
But I'd wait with the UR bulin for Thursday

[whole crypt]

I'm tempted to say start by MLBing your not MLB'd URs because they're 🚮
but we're getting new UR this week

[hot lion]

Really? and i spent my Cubes smh

[whole crypt]

the ships are good
not MLB is bad

[hot lion]

Well these teams will last me a few days i suppose

[inland shoal]

Only do 1 light build outside events always

[whole crypt]

URs suffer the same as any other rarity if not LB'd

[hot lion]

light build?

[rain hearth]

you really should look at them
German engineering at the finest
kms fritz

[inland shoal]

I'd redo 90% of both fleets

[inland shoal]

Yes, in the building tab there's Light, Heavy and Special. During events there's also Event

[whole crypt]

we don't even know what the ships do yet so recommending unreleased ships is moot

[rain hearth]

i was talking about appearance
besides i don't know what moot is

[whole crypt]

sir this is GPH we don't care how the ship looks

[soft raft]

moot is another way of saying pointless

[viscid swift]

2nd definition in this case

[hot lion]

Honestly, its fine with me. Just keeping my Ayanami is my only requirement. Until i get smtn like shimakaze atleast

[viscid swift]

also yes, appearance has no bearing on our recommendations or advice

[hot lion]

I honestly also wanna use Helena, so im open to options

[inland shoal]

Anyway for now I'd do for your fleet 1 Enty, Hood(get her augment), Unicorn (Get her from guild shop if you don't have her, retrofit her). Vg could be Eugen, Chang Chun, Sandy (Get her augment) I suppose

Then keep Ayanami in place of Chang Chun ig, but Ayanami is not a very good ship

[soft raft]

(Dont forget to put Hood on flagship otherwise half of her barrage completely whiffs)

[hot lion]

Sandy is almost retrofit, only like 2 blueprints remain to finish her

[hot lion]

Yea i am aware, remember on release or so where ayanami Akagi and Kaga were musts

[whole crypt]

they were never really musts but sure

[hot lion]

They remain my top 3 favourite ships, with eugen for obvious reasons, but ayanami i wanna keep for aslong as i can get away with

[hot lion]

mostly in pvp i guess. Akagi Kaga atleast

[rain hearth]

sandy is awesome
but you must absolutely get the unique aug
it makes her fire a barrage with each main gun fire

[hot lion]

Remember seeing smtn like that, will check it out. Augments are gears right?

[soft raft]

different from auxes

[hot lion]

restarted today after few years so im still lost

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Augmentation

[hot lion]

Ill check it out. Ty all for the info

[rain hearth]

not exactly
they have a separate crafting system
and unique augments are unique to each ship
and they make A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE

especially sandy one

[soft raft]

and they make A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE
That's a very big overstatement for the purple ones
And as for the gold ones, they vary wildly depending on both how good the aug is and how good/bad the ship it belongs to is

[inland shoal]

A few of them do, most aren't hugely important

[hot lion]

Ye found it. When were these added tf

[inland shoal]

They were added idk a year ago or 2?

[rain hearth]

i said unique augments
you are wrong

[soft raft]

And as for the gold ones, they vary wildly depending on both how good the aug is and how good/bad the ship it belongs to is

[rain hearth]

especially sandy one

[whole crypt]

even unique augments vary greatly in quality

some are just 🚮

[soft raft]

my statement still applies
Sandy aug just happens to join Hood, Kawakaze, Taihou, and Shangri-la as some of the more worthwhile Unique augs

[rain hearth]

you must get the sandy one
trust me

[viscid swift]

when did you last play? like yearwise

[tranquil rock]

sandy aug is also expensive as shit

[rain hearth]

i don't exactly know when they were released but you can get them from a special kind of daily mission which is actually weekly

[whole crypt]

all unique augs cost the same
sandy's offers good mileage for cost
it's of some priority if you have a sandy raised but otherwise not need to rush for it

[hot lion]

Honestly, no idea, when shinano was released? Then a friend who was addicted got me to redownload cuz he wanted to see my collection, did a few rolls, got New Jersey first 10pull, stayed for like a week or 2 more

[tranquil rock]

me when im on w11 and already preparing for w15

[hot lion]

Ill try to fight back the urges of getting the ayanami one

[inland shoal]

It's just 21k coins, not that bad
And Sandy with aug is probably better than your starter with retro and aug

[viscid swift]

these are all the major gameplay changes made since you last played then

[whole crypt]

to be fair Sandy retrofit + aug will work for you 12 through 15

[rain hearth]

it is much more useful to have a few very good ships compared to a lot of ok ships

sandy with retro and unique aug will last

and not immediately replaced

[whole crypt]

ok? but the point is if he hasn't raised sandy he doesn't need to immediately raise her and max her out

[viscid swift]

all the main campaign additions and new retrofits

[tranquil rock]

honestly i need another backliner
because Massachusetts sucks

[hot lion]

Damn Prinz applies armor break with augment?

[viscid swift]

most of the unique augemnts

[rain hearth]

not dependent on each other

[soft raft]

yes but that doesnt really make her augment worth getting nor does it noticably change her viability

She still gets heavily outclassed by the top tanks and etc

[viscid swift]

to say nothing of all the new events and such

[inland shoal]

His Sandy is already raised quite far tho

[whole crypt]

then yeh get her aug it's probably fine to bring her along

[rain hearth]

yh
he mentioned only 2 slots remaining

[hot lion]

Also one more question, Since i cant use Akagi CV anymore unfortunatelly, Is akagi μ or Akagi BB any good?

[whole crypt]

there's no Akagi BB and Akagi muse is kind of a niche fast launcher

[viscid swift]

akagi BB doesn't exist

[soft raft]

Yes but easily replacable and there is no Akagi BB

[hot lion]

wait what

[whole crypt]

technically Akagi was a BC but that doesn't exist either

[inland shoal]

Kaga BB exists

But she's also bad

[hot lion]

ah, Amagi BB and Kaga

[rain hearth]

i think you are thinking of amagi bc

[viscid swift]

Amagi Cv does exist though

[hot lion]

ffs, no love for Akagi

[whole crypt]

SR Amagi is a BC
Kaga BB is also meh

well he just came back so he's most definitely missed her

[inland shoal]

We have Akagichan tho

[hot lion]

Not oathing should be considered a warcrime

[viscid swift]

I'm free to play, I don't exactly have that luxury

[whole crypt]

not oathing is normal if you're not sitting on a bunch of rings as an F2P

[rain hearth]

personally
an event is coming
those sr ships should be pretty good
power creep is... creeping

[whole crypt]

I don't even oath all my URs, though I do for main fleet

[inland shoal]

[hot lion]

I need more

[remote quarry]

I oath for PvP first, then Meta ships for PvE, then only Waifu

[soft raft]

speaking of Amagi CV
What's the syncing for Amagi CV/Haku/Shinano for TaihouM
or could I just copy/paste Haku's setup from the Haku/Shinano/Implac comp in with no issue

[whole crypt]

oathing for PvP is probably the least useful

[viscid swift]

uhhh

[hot lion]

@atomic hemlock

[soft raft]

no memes here fyi

[hot lion]

Ah mb

[whole crypt]

oathing for meta still somewhat matters for copying homework on showdowns and stuff
PvP is just attacker advantage and rerolling

[hot lion]

My oaths are waifus that are were usefull in PvP/PvE

[elfin hollow]

I wanna upgun Zara, but IDK which of these is good. I'm hitting node 5-2 now

[hot lion]

Saving a ring for Helena tho

[remote quarry]

I may the only SKK that oathed his entire Sub fleet too

[inland shoal]

Eh only thing that can make your life hard is if you have some of the ships in the homework oathed

[hot lion]

is zara any good? got her lvl 100

[soft raft]

purely tech fodder

[viscid swift]

she's meh

[hot lion]

Honework?

[whole crypt]

partial oathing is bad for syncing but not oathing at all can still be a problem for timings sometimes

[inland shoal]

Well the left one is better iirc
I wouldn't enhance either past +6

[soft raft]

anyone?

[whole crypt]

t14

[elfin hollow]

oh, so I'd just keep the old gun.

if I got a golden cruiser gun then I might do an overhaul

[hot lion]

Ok last 2 questions:

1. if i dont get any of the new UR battleships, which of the 2 URs is more worth to LMB?
2. can i somehow fit Helena in any team or is she not as good?

[whole crypt]

last airstrike is free hits, which helps

[soft raft]

1. Stay tuned for datamine, also depends on what URs you have
2. She's mainly used in bossing fleets for campaign (up to W14) and in Operation Siren

[hot lion]

so upgrading Helena is not a bad idea?

[viscid swift]

1. well the 2 new URs are a CV and a DD so wait and see how they turn out
2. you're mainly one fleeting right now and Helena just doesn't have a place there right now

[inland shoal]

Idk I saw this floating around tho

[hot lion]

Aight, will keep these in mind. Ty all for the info

[whole crypt]

is nakhimov better than hakuryuu

[hot lion]

Will prioriotize getting sandy up for now

[viscid swift]

legally I have no idea

[soft raft]

damn, my Nakhimov isnt D30 and I dont have a LA-9 complete yet 🐌

[inland shoal]

That's true but most comps recently haven't been too heavy on tech so you can just adjust to equalise

[whole crypt]

lemme try my last one with nakhimov

[rare forum]

3d dorm camera showing black screen

[inland shoal]

It seems that way to me

[soft raft]

#tech-support is that way

[whole crypt]

is there some reason shinano is using flap

[inland shoal]

Instead of?

[viscid swift]

a torpedo bomber

[whole crypt]

another la-9 or any other thing that can fit that slot

[inland shoal]

Ah right that's her flex slot

[viscid swift]

my initial thought would be it's for the planes Taiho launches but can the vanguard really not deal with that on their own

[whole crypt]

thought presumably I'd say it's AA

[inland shoal]

She launches planes every second, sometimes with unlucky movement they leak and reveal so I think it's probably that

[viscid swift]

I see

[inland shoal]

But I didn't cook it myself

[whole crypt]

looks promising? was down to 15 bars after 2nd strike for 14

vangaurd looks like it'll live

assuming same mog/kaza/unzen

stay tuned for tomorrow night

[inland shoal]

I think you might get away with even Sirius instead of Mog

Not sure if that's more desirable

[whole crypt]

I'm tempted to try a NP vanguard with slow

[soft raft]

what lvl is the META at now
I feel like I accidentially skipped a day

[inland shoal]

12 on EN I believe

[whole crypt]

but that'll be after checking how much damage headroom there is to drop mogs

[soft raft]

Looks at my lvl 9 fight
Yup I missed a day

oh well

[inland shoal]

I think their dmg is low

[whole crypt]

yeh but if there's headroom on overkill the consistency will be better

since we swapped cat in here

[inland shoal]

That's true. We'll see ig

[whole crypt]

not to mention damage you lose on vanguard maybe recouped from not missing on mains

[fast steppe]

curious about main fleet comps nowadays

do 3 BBs work or is 1 CV minimum

[whole crypt]

pretty much all sidegrades but flaps are technically the easiest to craft if you want to make them

[soft dagger]

no plane leaks?

[whole crypt]

plane HP is basically irrelevant

[whole crypt]

forgot to keep an eye on concealment bar so shrug

[inland shoal]

Main difference for AA is the intercept reload

It's absurdly small on flapjack for whatever reason

[whole crypt]

it's just a bit faster on flap, keep in mind the base launch is also a bit longer than the other 2
it's also a slower flyer so longer screentime

[viscid swift]

main fleet comps for what

[fast steppe]

opsi and other stuff where high dmg is needed ig

[inland shoal]

Yes but compared to other top AA dps planes and its own normal reload it's fast

[viscid swift]

OpSi, META, CM fleets etc are all not gonna be the same

[inland shoal]

And yeah lower plane speed also helps it (which I find really absurd, but it's just a consequence of how fighters act in this game)

[viscid swift]

if anything OpSi has just degraded as power creep becomes more rampant and you start running whatever

and META and CM fleets are gonna depend on which one

[fast steppe]

i've been inactive for about 2 years so i'm quite behind on the powercreep

[whole crypt]

the powercreep is probably less than you think

[inland shoal]

One of the simpler and general CV fleets is sth like Impla Amagi Shinano

Ofc also good old Yorkii Kear Enty

[fast steppe]

no shinano no kear no impla

[inland shoal]

But yeah for specific content you want more specific fleets

[whole crypt]

if you went back exactly 2 years from now, Shinano/Hakuryuu/AvP is still completely functional

[fast steppe]

hakuryuu's still dev25 but working on it

[viscid swift]

well there's always battleships at that point

[fast steppe]

only ones i can use atm are vanguard musashi warkai and ulrich for URs

[whole crypt]

quite literally the only thing the current power ceiling matters is for harb/showdown consistency

[viscid swift]

Musashi, Vanguard, UvH would probably be better than any CV fleet you could field right now

[fast steppe]

ig

only got one 457 and 2 champy guns though

though ig i could sub in a mk7

[viscid swift]

you don't have a Triple 410mm for Musashi?

[fast steppe]

don't think so

wait no i think i do

this one?

[viscid swift]

yes

that Musashi, Champaign gun on Vanguard, and 457 on UvH

[rain hearth]

how is chapter 10 for grinding
just finished 9-4

need gold for event

only have 70k

[atomic abyss]

9-4 better if you cant push to 11 imo
cos 11 is noticeably better on the exp front, while being only a little harder than 10
10 is a big jump from 9

[rain hearth]

i see
and in terms of coin?
and is the 1200 oil commission good or bad idea