gameplay-help

[inland shoal]

So when will game news stop to be on Twitter?

[jaunty vault]

how expensive are we talking

[plain saffron]

very, it become controversial when it was announced

[boreal wagon]

their pro plan which doesn't cover most businesses is 5k/month with very harsh limits

everything beyond that scope is negotiated on a case by case basis but usually significantly above 5k/month

[whole crypt]

EN probably costs them the least to keep twitter so they left it till last

[boreal wagon]

anyway this is gph not twitter help

[jaunty vault]

[atomic abyss]

iirc yostar is paying them at least 10k a month

cos there's also the stupid webhook that the server uses for news

[jaunty vault]

is that something you should be revealing

[boreal wagon]

u could publicly find out rather easy

[plain saffron]

just add allegedly

[atomic abyss]

im saying based on what twitter themselves has said about rates

it shd be at least 10k, prolly way more based on what the old dumb musk said

and im talking about AL itself only

[whole crypt]

no matter just expect to drop SNS binding completely

[boreal wagon]

hey at least we have google now kind of

[south sequoia]

taihou is armored cv right? so shes heavy for her meta fight?

[plain saffron]

bring back transfer codes

did AL ever get google games bind

[jaunty vault]

never

[whole crypt]

JP did

[inland shoal]

Yep though summons seem to be med

[plain saffron]

so EN still didn't implement it

[jaunty vault]

the only AL i know is global

[whole crypt]

[boreal wagon]

ye EN hasnt implemented it yet but yostar accounts have it so its kind of there now

[plain saffron]

*AL EN

[south sequoia]

med shouldn't be too bad then

[sharp socket]

is this acc linking update something or just nothingburger

[wind hazel]

return of bb meta?

[whole crypt]

PGS bind was how I lost my "proper" sub account

[strange sphinx]

so triple BB gang for Taihou Meth?

[south sequoia]

devs would rather cater gimmicks and fights to bbs instead of releasing more ships that support them

[boreal wagon]

its a way for them to require binding and migration is required

[sharp socket]

do i have to download yet another poorly made launcher for the one yostar game i play

[whole crypt]

no comps yet I think

[south sequoia]

wait for about 2 weeks

[atomic abyss]

No

[whole crypt]

it's just a webapp login

[sharp socket]

thank god alright

[plain saffron]

it's not PC so no launcher

[boreal wagon]

the system works exactly the same as before for all intents and purposes they just consolitaed all the games into one system

[south sequoia]

for week 1 we still have to wait for testers to get to 15 then another week to start testing

[atomic abyss]

I expect Mehou to be CV oriented boss

[whole crypt]

if AL ever comes to PC it might be launcher based but for phones that's just stupid

[atomic abyss]

Yes I'm calling her Mehou cos she looks meh

[vapid grotto]

Hey i just got the promise ring from the quest, do i need to save that for sonething or just give it to anyone?

[atomic abyss]

Anyone you want

[whole crypt]

save it for a ship you really like

[jaunty vault]

that naming sense sucks

[whole crypt]

the naming sense is meh

[tame jungle]

taiheta

[strange sphinx]

[jaunty vault]

i name her taimet and urge everyone to use this name henceforth

[whole crypt]

I just spell it out regardless 0 ambiguity

[cobalt rapids]

maihoe

[strange sphinx]

no Cooper

[whole crypt]

Taihou META is Taihou META

[strange sphinx]

nice, neko

[tame jungle]

misinformation!

metaihou 🤔

[strange sphinx]

Maihoe it is

[wind hazel]

yourhoe?

[strange sphinx]

Maihoe yes

[viscid swift]

Alright take it to #al-general

[plain saffron]

Mhou

[jaunty vault]

cheeky for gph mod 2026

[sharp socket]

is it gonna be BB time for taihou

[wind hazel]

maybe

[viscid swift]

what make you say that?

[plain saffron]

CV prob still work

[tame jungle]

taihou with planes might be annoying to keep conceal but not sure if that's enough to offset cv damage diff

[sharp socket]

the summons, and my love of BBs

[atomic abyss]

somewhat high AA

[plain saffron]

the plane is whatever

[elfin hollow]

whats the fastest way to get taihou meta

[south sequoia]

Waiting faster

[cobalt rapids]

fight her 5 times per day

[wind hazel]

do meta daily

[viscid swift]

well there are ways to counter the planes, not to mention she's heavy armor

[plain saffron]

play game

[atomic abyss]

i unironically think shimanto might be actually a really strong pick

[plain saffron]

just use highest range AA, it's only 300 hp

[atomic abyss]

or well, you use eldridge

[wind hazel]

what about the summons, how many hp

[strange sphinx]

[novel solstice]

Start a new account last month, get to the right spot in the opsi tutorial today, and you get to be one fight ahead of everyone else toward taihou meta, which may get her a day early.

[cobalt rapids]

its in datamine

[atomic abyss]

see pins

[wind hazel]

im lazy

[strange sphinx]

Mori gonna Cook now

[cobalt rapids]

like 30k ish hp

[plain saffron]

smh cropped the most important part

[cobalt rapids]

im glad its afternoon

[wind hazel]

oh can't be targeted

[tame jungle]

oh it's just a guy chilling

[strange sphinx]

oh well just survive it is

[atomic abyss]

once again i think eld will be main stay

[novel solstice]

Something in the 🍝 probably broke if the programmer removed it entirely, so they had to leave it in and just make it do nothing.

[atomic abyss]

eld does the AA, eld does the slow

[strange sphinx]

eld is life

[cobalt rapids]

i doubt slow is enough
shes prob want a freezers
shes moving all over the place

[atomic abyss]

nvm

[plain saffron]

smh

[cobalt rapids]

also i dont think the aa reqs will be tough enough to warrant an aa
im expecting gold +13 aa guns to take care of the planes unless vang move rng leaks

[atomic abyss]

i mean you prolly need a tank and sth to kill the mooks right

[cobalt rapids]

the mobs should die to dbs
im not sure about the time when she summons the 4 ogres coz the 2 at the end are abit far apart

[sharp socket]

am i cooking or am i burning the kitchen

[strange sphinx]

[sharp socket]

no rld shenanigans

[viscid swift]

that is probably not one shotting

[hollow gust]

Ewww wtf

[sharp socket]

yeah i know

i dont expect anything i make to be

[hollow gust]

Also what's with all the BBs , does taihou have stupid high aa?

[atomic abyss]

340+ iirc

[viscid swift]

she has 346

[atomic abyss]

just abit higher than nageta

[sharp socket]

but AA cant intercept shells

[hollow gust]

I'm just gonna shinano Amagi haku

[hollow gust]

Well shells do less damage then torpedos cracking a ships kneel

[atomic abyss]

now if she was med i think it would be different

[hollow gust]

Nahkimov exists now

[forest palm]

Taiho Meta lookin easy?

[atomic abyss]

i mean at the end of the day, they are harder to get

[eternal moth]

Too bad we can't use subs or Albacore could solo her

[viscid swift]

looks just like another damage race

[sharp socket]

well i dont expect to oneshot anyway since i dont have the high end CVs and +13 spam

[atomic abyss]

When Taihou META is under 50% HP, the battlefield changes:

• Taihou META & any of her summons +20% DMG
• All allied healing is converted to DMG.
• Every allied unit that dies after this increases Taihou META's dmg dealt by 10%. (Summons might also count)"

[wind hazel]

you dont have AP gun for musashi?

[viscid swift]

1.6 million HP though with summon transfer damage is tall snd it doesnt look like she has any convenient stop timers

[sharp socket]

nope

[atomic abyss]

did you... not do the sushi event at all?

[sharp socket]

well i can get an izumo gun and figure out something

[wind hazel]

not even daisen?

[atomic abyss]

izumo gun was on d3

[wind hazel]

or are you not on pr7 yet

[atomic abyss]

just gearlab it

[sharp socket]

i am stuck on pr5 cause the plygun isnt appearing

also ill stop by pr6 for a bit to get shimanto fs5 for my w15

[atomic abyss]

dont need to

[wanton dawn]

why does it show the number of blueprints needed for Agir fate sim even tho she doesnt have one?

[atomic abyss]

just do pr6 catch up when it comes out

[viscid swift]

the system was just built like that

[sharp socket]

is that actually happening

[atomic abyss]

automatic 300 BPs

[wanton dawn]

ah ok ty

[atomic abyss]

or be like me

and just convert all your PR6 selector BPs to shimanto

[wanton dawn]

so does it make sense to save up agir blueprints for when she gets a fate sim?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[viscid swift]

I would

[sharp socket]

that is indeed what im doing except im also using pr7 selectors too

[wanton dawn]

thanks

[wind hazel]

save fs for anyone without one

[cobalt rapids]

you can also convert when she gets coining

(shes prob gonna get coining before fs5)

[boreal wagon]

i think both will happen at the same time

[sharp socket]

i hope pr7 gives me faster la9 than plygun did

[void garnet]

When’s the UR event?

[jaunty vault]

next week hopefully

[mellow cape]

Anything notable for this prelude

[left cedar]

La-9 i'm not too much lucky as i'm with Tenrai ...
90/50 rn

[mellow cape]

[forest palm]

the 19th

[whole crypt]

I'm still at 21 for La-9 considering wrapping up Napoli first

[forest palm]

probably only need 1 La-9 at this stage either way

[timid moon]

is the next banner gonna be UR?

[dusk maple]

Yes

[jaunty vault]

hopefully

[tender lotus]

Or next year

[forest palm]

there's a stream on the 16th, so~

[signal fog]

best BB for w15 mob ?

[atomic abyss]

Musashi

[forest palm]

Musashi is just the best mob BB in the game

[signal fog]

w15
mob
aquila musashi unicorn
brest shimanto laffey II
boss
amagi alsace shinano
guam jean d'arc san diego
support
nakhimov indomitable implacable

sounds good ?

any ship to change ?

is it good idea if i just go rich and use 6 rainbow AA ?

[jaunty vault]

have one sextuple in fleet

[signal fog]

which fleet ? mob or boss ?

[jaunty vault]

fleets sound good

[whole crypt]

still struggling to find a comp that actually uses La-9 and matters

[viscid swift]

better yet use 7

[jaunty vault]

both ideally, mob should probably get prio

read the w15 guide if you haven't already

[signal fog]

what is La-9 ? sorry i don't really remember weapon name

[jaunty vault]

pr7 fighter plane UR

[atomic abyss]

la-9 is irrelevant to you

[atomic abyss]

amagi against med

[signal fog]

reading it now, why amagi use 2 Brequet, is it better to use 2 wyvern ?

[viscid swift]

any CV with fighters against medium really

[whole crypt]

if you can equip 4-5 rainbow AA you probably won't need to fit a sextuple at all

[atomic abyss]

assuming you have enough wyverns to go around

[whole crypt]

why would you use Amagi against medium

[viscid swift]

well one of one shot comps for repulse is Nahkimov, Shinano, Amagi

[atomic abyss]

because i dont have yk2

[whole crypt]

that's a you problem

[atomic abyss]

and amagi with her TB buffs do more to med than BF109Gs lol

/ban 1286740658081759314

[odd root]

jerrytheman4#0 got banned.

[forest palm]

interesting...

[jaunty vault]

missed admin ping

[whole crypt]

maybe I'll keep that in mind if I ever need to do repulse on my sub

[viscid swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1243400562800726026/1311799942020333699/image.png?ex=675bf8a6&is=675aa726&hm=99a3f2ecfb735d94263086f3164e4fd9008574da802fb77e7814e3f9dc122143&

specifically this

[jaunty vault]

can I still ping?

[atomic abyss]

no

[viscid swift]

without oaths and just one La-9 though it is not that consistent at one shotting

[whole crypt]

I'll just forget repulse exists

[viscid swift]

2 though should pretty much gurantee it

[exotic flax]

I'm not sure how to clear tactical training aviation (Lv 100), I hear carriers are good, is there also some skill involved, or can overlevelled ships work fine?
So far I can clear but im too slow for the auto clear requirements.
What can I share in my (large) roster to help?

[jaunty vault]

over levelled ships should kill it with ease

needless to say go with good gear

[whole crypt]

you can beat it by overleveling and appropriate gear
if you need help with comp start a thread before posting large rosters

[exotic flax]

let me screenshot (some of) my roster for a thread

[tawdry topaz]

Is there a way to sync nakhimov and soyuz?

[forest palm]

ya it's possible

[atomic abyss]

very easily

[tawdry topaz]

How

[atomic abyss]

well firstly, what armour?

[tawdry topaz]

Med-heavy

[atomic abyss]

med and heavy needs different gears for nakhi

for example med

assuming 0 BB rld
CV you need a bit

[forest palm]

this is why the IJN + Imp comp is so much simpler

[atomic abyss]

let me know when you have 4 LA-9s

[remote quarry]

I always forget the loadouts are a thing

[atomic abyss]

i dont have heavy saved

heavy is easier to sync

just worse on the damage since soy wont do as much

[tawdry topaz]

can I have gear for heavy and light?

[atomic abyss]

you wouldnt use soy for light

so lol

[tawdry topaz]

I dont touch opsi fleet unless new ship

anyways what about heavy?

[atomic abyss]

i dont have the SS for that, gimme a bit

[atomic abyss]

Sth liddat

If you lack an la-9 then you'll need the slower TBs

[forest palm]

inb4 Nahkimov power creep

[fervent niche]

I don't even have her

[forest palm]

wouldn't stress about it much

[tawdry topaz]

I have like 10 or so 🧓

[atomic abyss]

how do you haev 10 LA-9s

[whole crypt]

10 prints

[atomic abyss]

that would be powercreeping almost every single carrier

[tawdry topaz]

what is La-9 again? the torp bomber?

[wary hawk]

LOL

[atomic abyss]

the UR rocket fighter from PR7

[forest palm]

listen we didn't expect F5 Haku to get powercrept, but now we have Amagi

[tawdry topaz]

oh so it's a rocket fighter, I've never read the details

UR = good is the end all be all

[atomic abyss]

i mean taz
nakhi is literally the best non support carrier right now i'd say

[tawdry topaz]

imma give her one then

my only one

[atomic abyss]

nakhi is actually bis for light armour comps now

[soft raft]

not always
Triple 460 moment

[atomic abyss]

warkai moment

[forest palm]

z flag moment

[soft raft]

Oxytorp moment

[atomic abyss]

hey z-flag was from pre shells era

[forest palm]

it is a glorified augment that takes an aux slot

[tawdry topaz]

musashi gun?

[soft raft]

yeah that thing

[tawdry topaz]

seriously how can anyone remember all the gear names

[soft raft]

the trick is to remember only the relevant ones

[remote quarry]

Play for 6 years, it becomes second nature

[viscid swift]

it's not that difficult

[forest palm]

I just don't bother with gear nicknames

[tawdry topaz]

all I remember are PR X BB/CA/DD?AA gear or the UR torp/bb HE gun/ fighter/whatever

[viscid swift]

be a student of naval history and it becomes that much easier

[whole crypt]

you don't have to memorize everything, just relevant gear

[tawdry topaz]

we dont have that here in our country

[keen sable]

give them nicknames that only make sense to you

[mellow cape]

Nakhimov being BIS for light is surprising loll

[whole crypt]

use pictograms

[zinc prairie]

is Amagi CV worth investing?(she's currently sitting in my dock not mlb yet) or should i save up my UR bulin?

[whole crypt]

for now save, wait to see if next UR will be more useful for you in like a week

[stark quiver]

Nakh with hvars?

[eager mulch]

there is no amagi II, if you mean the second amagi to enter the game, amagi-chan is very cute, if you mean amagi CV, she is very strong but everyone is saying to wait for the next event

[atomic abyss]

yep
kears nakhi yk2

5 HVARs

she replaces impla in other words
and you use tash on the vg

[mellow cape]

Let's say you don't want to use soyuz and no Amagi, would a nakhimov comp for heavy be something
Nakhimov, Hakuryuu, and Shimano?

[atomic abyss]

it would be yes

but you'd need to keep tash/voro on the frontline ofc

[mellow cape]

Of course, would the other slot be Kazu and perhaps Agir?

[atomic abyss]

depends on if you need a tank ofc

[mellow cape]

Fair. My nakhimov is nearly dev 30 so I'm planning a future fleet. Tyty

[atomic abyss]

kazagumo for sure, for ARA skill and the IJN count for nano

if you need a tank, agir, napoli, ancho all work fine
use guam/laff2/eld if your enemy has planes to keep your CVs concealed

if you dont need a tank, just use unzen

[mellow cape]

I screenshoted for future reference c: ty

[desert silo]

Meta raid says coords are expired but there’s 91 days left, what am I missing?

[keen sable]

you probably just had an old nagato leftover

[soft raft]

so what're we thinking for Taihou META comp, basically the typical anti-heavy?

[desert silo]

It’s on taihou.

[keen sable]

that doesn't preclude you leaving a nagato meta unkilled 9 hours ago...

[eternal basalt]

The fight has concluded, pick a living threat

[desert silo]

So taihou is dead with 91 days left?

[keen sable]

if you put in the effort

[atomic abyss]

the coords that expired is from yesterday

probably exceeded the 24h

that's the only way coords "expire"

[eternal basalt]

Or fighting someone else... they die in 5s, so..

[shell willow]

it says coordinates expired when you try to fight someone else's that is already dead

[atomic abyss]

oh ah, you mean for the support attacks

[desert silo]

Thanks, didn’t mean to be difficult.

[little tree]

Will my go to meta showdown fleet be okay for 2 shot ?

[shell willow]

not sure where exactly they are seeing the popup

[atomic abyss]

we dont know because lv15 hasnt spawned

(i doubt)

[soft raft]

that looks too jank to 2 shot
like what is San Diego doing there

[atomic abyss]

...wait

the shinano isnt even activated wtf
only 2 IJN

[hollow gust]

Sandy FDG and Kron should get replaced

[keen sable]

comp isn't the only thing you need...

[little tree]

It 2 shot nagto meat

[atomic abyss]

with supporting fire im sure it did

[desert silo]

I didn't read how the meta targets work, my bad.

[atomic abyss]

without it i doubt lol

[hollow gust]

The more you look the worse it gets

[little tree]

What is supporting fire ?

[soft raft]

exactly what it sounds like
a supporting barrage

[keen sable]

bonus damage for people who can't get her in one month

[eternal basalt]

Taihou is plane hell

[atomic abyss]

supporting fire starts about 3 weeks in iirc? and it does bonus damage to your boss

the damage it does gets higher the longer the showdown is around for

[eternal basalt]

1 month

[whole crypt]

30 days

[hollow gust]

It does like 200-300k at max power

[little tree]

Ooo I had no idea lmao

[atomic abyss]

by the last few days, expect it to deal ~15-20 bars ?

depends on the boss

at the very least
i would swap fdg out for musashi if she's mlb

because that would increase your damage noticeably with her anti heavy niche
that would also count as the 3rd IJN for shinano's buff

[little tree]

She is mlb ill swap

[atomic abyss]

If the fleet this ship is in contains 3 (or more) Sakura Empire ships: decreases the DMG this ship takes from Main Guns and Aircraft by 20.0% and increases AVI and Accuracy by 15.0% for all your Sakura Empire CVs.

you're missing out on a 15% avi and acc buff

[white agate]

Wait, wasn't it that once I have all the bp for a pr ship that one does not appear anymore in my research?

[boreal wagon]

unless that is the case for all the ships from that season

then they all appear again

[white agate]

Oh I forgot
Thanks

[soft raft]

Yes until every ship in the season is D30 (or FS5 if they have it)

[humble solar]

Guys, why do destroyers need the AA guns with HIT stat? Why is HIT stat important to DDs? I thought DDs are about TORP stat?

[atomic abyss]

they dont need it
but hit stat affects crit rate
which affects damage

[viscid swift]

well there's no AA gun that gives torp stat for one

[atomic abyss]

rather than FP boosting AA guns, the torp based DDs lack torp boosting AA guns

so hit is the next best thing

it definitely shd NOT be a priority for them tho
prio BB/C and CVLs first

[soft raft]

Also where did you heard that DDs need HIT stat AA guns?

[atomic abyss]

DDs using those is pretty much only when you have too much STAAGs to spare

[whole crypt]

you'll eventually have enough staags to spare but not all DDs want it anyway

[humble solar]

Someone told me to put STAAG on DDs and Roombas on Cruisers, as well as put the EVA auxes to CA/CLs

[atomic abyss]

well the eva auxes bit is correct

[whole crypt]

it's not exactly wrong but it's overly simplified

[humble solar]

I used to put HP and Repair auxes to CA (Torp bulge and toolkit)

[atomic abyss]

everything else is... a very broad generalisation

[whole crypt]

oversimplification

[soft raft]

toolbox + EVA gear is the standard go-to aux setup for CA/CL/CB
Torp Bulge is more like damage reduc for W14

[humble solar]

My only CB is Kala Ideas and I put the Beaver Badge and Washing Machine on her

[humble solar]

What's the standard for DD aside from the toolbox?

[soft raft]

another toolbox
they need all the HP they can get

[whole crypt]

depends on the DD and what you're doing

[humble solar]

Laffey, Z46, Chang Chun, Jervis, Janus

Mostly for mobbing

[whole crypt]

for most part just go 2 toolkits

Chang Chun could swap one for a seal of four gods if you can afford it

[eternal moth]

SHOULD swap one for a Sot4G

[humble solar]

I never expected the toolkits to be used more than its skill

Btw what AA should I give Sandy and Helena

[stark quiver]

sextuple for sandy UR aa for helena

[humble solar]

Thanks

[soft raft]

UR AA For Helena?
That sounds wack ngl

esp since you'll ditch Helena in content where you'd generally want UR AA

[stark quiver]

i wouldnt really run another sextuple on her

[soft raft]

just give her a American Quad/Italian Twin bofors

[whole crypt]

if you can afford it sure
ideally if DDG not dying you can go oxytorp + S4G

[errant frigate]

How do I farm xp data packs

[eternal moth]

Do you have the lecture hall unlocked?

[whole crypt]

you play until you have commander level 50 and lv100+ ships then use the lecture hall

you get like 10 a week from supply pack, besides that most of what you get will be from lecture hall
lv100 tactical training also gives you a few more everyday but that's not happening any time soon if you don't even have lecture hall yet

[keen sable]

any cost limit map will likely produce xp packs (eventually)

[whole crypt]

*if you have a lecture hall

[golden ridge]

I've spent hundreds on your game and now it's broken.. cool

[wary hawk]

game was always broken

[whole crypt]

#tech-support

I've spend thousands on the game and it works fine for me, so chances are you'll be better off saying what's actually broken and see if it's something we can help

[viscid swift]

I've spent nothing on the game and it works fine for me.

[eternal moth]

Gotta love doomposters

[eternal moth]

What's the actual issue?

[strange sphinx]

I just hope you're not joking mate

[eternal moth]

Who?

[soft raft]

Did you have a question or are you just complaining?
You cant just randomly say "the game's broken" and then not elabroate whatsoever

[whole crypt]

I mean he can say what he wants but just complaining won't fix it
given today's update it's probably bind related and won't even be a difficult fix

[umbral briar]

idk its right channel for asking about binding account, but like this already binded right? so everything is fine?

[eternal moth]

When you opened the game you should have gotten a prompt to bind your account again right?

[umbral briar]

yes I chose the same account

[eternal moth]

As long as you went through that and it told you everything is ok then you're fine

[soft raft]

yeah it was a really quick process
literally just one tap if you already have a pre-exisiting Yostar bind and bam

[plain saffron]

if you didn't do it properly it'll come back in 7 days

[whole crypt]

thanks for showing your UID 🙂

[plain saffron]

i gonna hack you

[boreal wagon]

and all the bind ids

[eternal moth]

What's with the new name?

[boreal wagon]

he set his password as username so he wouldnt forget it

[eternal moth]

Ah, perfectly logical and completely foolproof.

[haughty dust]

Is this worth crafting or not?

[whole crypt]

eh is that Flandre gun

[soft raft]

Nah you see, instead of hackers trying to guess his password, they'll have to guess his username

only the highest of IQ plays from god's strongest Saratoga simp

[soft raft]

timing sidegrade for 406 MLE

[haughty dust]

wdym?

[whole crypt]

if it's flandre gun then it's a sidegrade to champagne gun

[soft raft]

exactly as it sounds like
it's basically a slightly faster Champagne gun

[whole crypt]

sidegrade = gear with similar performance that can be used interchangeably

[haughty dust]

But I mean, is it worth it or not?

[soft raft]

yeah it's flandre
Brest gun is quad barrel

[eternal moth]

Slightly faster, slightly less damage.

[whole crypt]

that depends on what your current gear situation is

[keen sable]

i think the similar gun is kears gun not brest...

[plain saffron]

one day someone will figure it out

[keen sable]

but yes it's flandre

[soft raft]

Eh
Kear gun is quite different but whatever

[boreal wagon]

isnt it a yt video

[whole crypt]

if your concern is whether it'll not be useful at all, then it's not a bad gun but may depend on what your current stock of BB guns is

[keen sable]

it's a good gun and could be best gun

[whole crypt]

oh I recognize proto Mk6 fine
just for some reason I'm trying to think if there's another gun I'm not remembering

[eternal moth]

If you have 3 Champagne guns it's typically not worth making it

Or at least not worth taking it to +13

[whole crypt]

it's still fair for some specific timings
and it's not expensive to craft in itself

[eternal moth]

Yeah, it'll depend on which ships you're equipping it on I assume

[whole crypt]

+13 will definitely be a bit more situational

[strange sphinx]

oh well imma wait for TaiMETA fleet

[eternal moth]

We probably won't know that for a week

[whole crypt]

come back to copy homework in a week or something

[strange sphinx]

that's the plan

[whole crypt]

unless rice & co cooks something up early again

[soft dagger]

rice & co? rice cooker...?

[haughty dust]

also I seem some characters now have certain SR augments available that are not on the community tier list. So that being said is elite augment still better or has the community tier list site not been updated?

[crimson glacier]

pretty sure gold is always better

[whole crypt]

there are a number of SR augments that may not be significantly better or potentially worse, and completely not worth the cost crafting

[haughty dust]

ok because for example the website says the Dagger is reccomended for U-96 but now there is an option for Special Mix (Do Not Drink) which is an SR augment.

[whole crypt]

ECTL isn't updating fast or soon enough, if you want to know if a specific aug is good you can try here first
U-96's aug is good

[haughty dust]

which is which one of the two I mentioned?

[whole crypt]

for U-96 her unique aug is better than dagger

[atomic abyss]

Consider it dead

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[crimson glacier]

so is that today today

[atomic abyss]

2nd December

[haughty dust]

this is the reason I ask because this is my current situation with submarine fleet being used.

[whole crypt]

someone just build a site that mtls CN tier list

[whole crypt]

those are fine

[haughty dust]

yeah I need to get better torps and finish upgrading what I have, but do not have the mats atm.

[whole crypt]

the not-MLB part is a bigger issue

[worn quest]

is nelson good?

[whole crypt]

decent midgame BB after retrofit

[haughty dust]

yeah working on it. I guess I should probably work on mlbing these two subs next

[eternal moth]

HELP gives double XP on zones, does that include commander XP?

[atomic abyss]

double everything

[sharp delta]

When will I need my account binded to yostars by? Is there a way to bypass for now?

My email if messed-up atm

[atomic abyss]

if you close the thing, it'll come back next week

bind it with FB or sth else instead when prompted

[sharp delta]

I am backed up with FB

[whole crypt]

you can also go to the account site to setup, can't you?

[sharp delta]

Oh

[sweet delta]

People who have unlimited access to level 15 already

[wanton dawn]

for pr6, should i go for kearsarge or hindenburg first?

[sweet delta]

Kearsarge blueprints if you have Yorkii, otherwise doesn't matter

[toxic harness]

Is call to arms live? My game does not show an active event and I saw it was scheduled to start today.

[boreal wagon]

call to arms is just the prelude to the actual event so there isnt a map yet

[eternal basalt]

There is a story event too

[sweet delta]

wtf it's even pinned in broad daylight

[atomic abyss]

did nagami edit his pin

[boreal wagon]

shortly before u pinned it

[atomic abyss]

ffs

[worn quest]

when should i farm the stuff in the war archives

[atomic abyss]

never if you dont need it

prio is always campaign unless you're stuck for some reason

[sweet delta]

Commander level if you didn't spend $5

[atomic abyss]

usually, we farm divergent chess board for german ships due to the research ships

but the thing is, the next event is likely german so... kinda pointless

[soft raft]

Divergent chessboard is basically the only thing you'll prob farm purely for the german ships

99% of the gear there is obtainable elsewhere

[sharp delta]

Wait is the yostar account just making a new yostar account and binding or making me log in with an existing yostars account?

[atomic abyss]

the latter if you have one already

otherwise the former

[soft raft]

if you already have a pre-existing YoStar bind, the process should be really really quick

[atomic abyss]

it's like 2 clicks

[sweet delta]

It was like 20 clicks for me because I was tapping everywhere on the success screen but it didn't have an X to close it

[atomic abyss]

wait no it shd be 2 taps not clicks

[junior walrus]

Are themes typically better than just random shit?

[stark quiver]

It doesn’t matter

When you buy furniture, single, themes etc, the comfort is cumulative

[rain hearth]

is adalbest good?

[eternal moth]

Up to a certain point. You have a cap on the number of items in each category that give comfort, and only the top X pieces will give comfort

[eternal moth]

She's not bad, but she's not top-tier either

[paper mural]

What is Malgerie's armor type?

[sharp delta]

Yay was able to unlock my email. Imagine having to pay a subscription to have an email. Anyways. Now that I registered/binded my email to yostar. Do I need to still make a yostars if I didn't have it bound?

[soft raft]

Should be Med

[eternal moth]

It uses your e-mail address in the account creation

[rain hearth]

can you name her equals? so i know your scale of good

[rain hearth]

as good as roon and anchorage is a lot, no?

[sharp delta]

Oh yes yes just binded in account settings. So simple and easy just to use an email address

[eternal moth]

She's a tier below Ancho

[soft raft]

Roon is generally called a Portland Sidegrade
Also Ancho is a tier above her lol

[eternal moth]

As good as Roon makes her ok

[rain hearth]

oops
night blindness haha

[soft raft]

She'd have to be alot more tanky to be considerd on par with Ancho since Ancho is one of the tankiest ships in the game

Like top 3-5

[rain hearth]

no way Portland compares to roon
you are joking right

[eternal moth]

As long as you see this under Settings - Account you should be fine

[eternal moth]

Roon does more damage, but I'm pretty sure they have about the same level of tankiness

[soft raft]

^

[rain hearth]

even with Portland's lack of retrofit skills

[soft raft]

this is considering post-retrofit portland

[eternal moth]

Portland is a pure stat stick

[rain hearth]

yh
her retrofit doesn't give skill

[rain hearth]

i see

[sweet delta]

Seems like the whole of gph forgot Roon augment

[rain hearth]

funny
i don't see that horny baltimore class ship

[eternal moth]

It doesn't do anything for her tankiness though, does it? I thought that was pure damage.

[soft raft]

That's because ECTL hasnt updated in quite a while

[ornate bronze]

Is ectl dead?

[soft raft]

Iirc they prelimed Pittsburgh at T0

[forest palm]

for now

[rain hearth]

i mean sure damage is primarily for back end
but putting Portland as equal to roon is just unfair

[sweet delta]

+15 Eva, and besides only you mentioned their tankiness later. People started with their overall tiers

[forest palm]

still a good bit of information on ECTL, but ya it's kind of dead cause it hasn't updated in like 4 months

[soft raft]

It's namely the simillar tankiness that makes Roon not really worth it for newbies
Why raise Roon when Portland has simillar tankiness for cheaper

And then by the time you can probably go back and do Roon, you could also be working on Anchorage instead

[rain hearth]

wasn't me
i was talking about it not having skills

[eternal moth]

I specifically said Roon does more damage, I don't know what you're arguing since Roon is just a little above Portland on eHP

And the question was about Adalbert, not Roon

[tranquil rock]

anchorage>portland right

[rain hearth]

you need the points though
from pr ships

[eternal moth]

By quite a bit, yes

[soft raft]

Yup, that's another point against Roon as well

[rain hearth]

??
she gives a lot of points for fdg

[eternal moth]

He means you need to dev her to get access to FdG and Agir

[soft raft]

Oh
true

but there's alternatives to getting said tech points as well

[eternal moth]

Just get the next German UR :fivehead:

[soft raft]

like Divergent chessboard or more conviently a german event

[sweet delta]

Roon is better than adalbert

[rain hearth]

i certainly hope so
would be stupid if she wasn't
after all that grinding for exp

[eternal moth]

Adalbert is also much newer

[forest palm]

I feel like this is Roon w/ Augment

[eternal moth]

Yeah, before her augment I'd say they're close

[opaque karma]

[rain hearth]

correction: adalbest
btw how does that other sr tanky iron blood heavy cruiser compare with adalbest

[soft raft]

There's like 3 other IB tanks
Please specify

[eternal moth]

Heinrich's good, but again, a little older. I don't remember how they compared Hein with Adal

[rain hearth]

one who is just as dorky

[rain hearth]

you are very smart

for guessing which i was talking about

[sweet delta]

Roon over Hein over adal

[mellow cape]

3 months for taihou

Is that typical for a temporary meta?

[sweet delta]

Obviously assuming you pay for Roon augment , which is somewhat reasonable

[left cedar]

w8, wut ? is that dmg wise right ?

[sweet delta]

They're close enough in tanking to make the comparison DMG wise yes

[soft raft]

Yeah

[mellow cape]

Tyty

[left cedar]

cuz pretty sure that once about general
FC > Hein > Roon > Adal

[errant fog]

what's the best comp for taihou meta fight?

[rain hearth]

how is taihou meta btw
i don't really care about skin issue

[mellow cape]

Meh

[soft raft]

tune back in like next week when we get to the lvl 15 fight

[rain hearth]

FC?

[left cedar]

Fried Carl

[sweet delta]

Its like FC, R aug, H, A, R no aug

[soft raft]

Probably the typical "Good but better options exist"

[rain hearth]

ah
somehow i find that one forgettable

[errant fog]

Oh yeah, I forgot that there the levels and for this first week its not the hardest. Ok then, tq

[left cedar]

till now she is the best P-Class

[rain hearth]

lol
yh same everywhere

[mellow cape]

Sad during my break I missed on Wichita meta

[sweet delta]

Probably the worst meta SR CV so far

[opaque karma]

which OpSi difficulty best for farming rainbow bp

[opaque karma]

taihou?

[rain hearth]

about to buy type 1 ap shell
have already bought heavy shell
that's the best thing to buy now right?

[opaque karma]

yeah hit rate up is pretty good

[sweet delta]

White shell is almost always better than black shell anyways

[sweet delta]

All special coordinates and icons and daily missions and explorable zones and other special things > safe zone corrosion 3 or 5

[junior walrus]

Should I be trying to 100% these?

[rain hearth]

only exception is when you have admiralty fire table and need a combination?

[opaque karma]

i only used archive to get the gold baguette gun and even that is kinda mid nowadays

[rain hearth]

no
you should be trying to get iron blood ships from divergent for Friedrich der Grosse

[sweet delta]

Even then, white shell is better. The exception is when the enemy has super low eva and luck combination compared to your fleet's accuracy

[opaque karma]

when will the desk be available again missed the event

[soft raft]

White shell + AFCT/HSFCR because who wouldnt want more HIT

[rain hearth]

i see
well
black shell is almost as good right, so I didn't waste my data right?

[soft raft]

When Vanguard's event gets archived
Which is maybe like sometime next year i dunno 🔮

[soft dagger]

black shell is good if you can guarantee a hit

well, more like throughout than singular

[errant fog]

what's a good vanguard for taihou meta?

[soft raft]

Yeah it's still good
esp for early game when it makes more sense to get black shell than HSFCR (Which is mainly for timing)

[forest palm]

Imma us Unzen + Kazagumo + Sirius, and see how that works out for Taihou meta

[opaque karma]

wouldnt BB work better on carriers becaue medium armour

[errant fog]

ooh that's for cv comp, right?

[stark quiver]

except taihou is heavy

[eager mulch]

taihou is very much not medium, very very heavy

[cobalt rapids]

shes not medium armor and they dont work better either way

[soft raft]

that's not how it works

1. Taihou is Heavy armor
2. Torpedo bombers deal massive damage to heavy armor
   And technically both BBs and CVs can deal good damage against medium/heavy as long as they're geared correctly

[eager mulch]

cvs are better than BBs against light, medium, and heavy me thinks

[forest palm]

at this point probably

[cobalt rapids]

even if she was medium armor it doesnt make carriers inherently worse against her

[errant fog]

Oh, so Might as well stay with the cv comp from previous meta fight lol

[stark quiver]

cvs better if u have shit bbs, bbs better if u have shit cvs, if both are good id go with cv

[opaque karma]

is the intercept / planes gonna be a issue

[soft raft]

we'll see when we get to the lvl 15 fight

[cobalt rapids]

if both are good go with which one is best
cvs have mechanics associated to them ontop of the other mechanics that bbs have to deal with for enemy defense
like the enemy anti air and their own concealment bar

[stark quiver]

Ur AA = no problem

[forest palm]

probably something like this gotta wait for 15

could probably replace Imp for Haku tbh

[errant fog]

what does imp do again ina cv fleet lol

[eager mulch]

stop

[opaque karma]

slow

[soft raft]

Freeze utility

[forest palm]

CC la

[eager mulch]

Chang chun

[soft raft]

That way 99% of your aimed TBs dont whiff by a single pixel

[errant fog]

jgn biadap. Anyway

[forest palm]

lol

[errant fog]

I see, thanks. Yeah, early on before lvl 15 haku can help killing the boss faster

[stark quiver]

eld vg?

[still nest]

What armor is Taihou Meta?

[crimson glacier]

ill just keep the previous setup

until 15

[sterile fox]

Metafleet?

[forest palm]

if Taihou doesn't move around much then could just forgo CC altogether

[sterile fox]

Only if you need the ship

[still nest]

2 toolbox?

[junior walrus]

word ill ignore for now

[forest palm]

something I am cooking up for Taihou meta LV 15

[opaque karma]

how much damage are you guys getting out of unzen in nagato fight i found shes doing only 50k

[crimson glacier]

idk nagato is over

[opaque gate]

taihou meta good?

[eager mulch]

worst sr META cv I’ve been told

[opaque gate]

oh lol

[eager mulch]

I don’t have her though

[soft raft]

+1 AVI tech tho

[eternal moth]

150-200k

[sterile fox]

Can't be worse than ark royal

[eternal moth]

Ark wasn't even the worst META when she was RELEASED

[forest palm]

imagine actually using a Meta outside of tech farming

[sterile fox]

Is there any difference between the torpedo bombers?

[soft raft]

namely the timing

[stark quiver]

she has summons so thats anoying

[eager mulch]

I too am annoyed, being summoned to jury duty

[forest palm]

so that's the funny thing if you look at the fleet builder you'll notice the x3, that's how many planes that slot has, number of planes will affect FR differently

so for Implacable this won't matter, but for Amagi it will matter

but, yes partially it's timing purposes

[forest palm]

sweet PDF

[forest palm]

[hollow gust]

is it possible for voroshilov to survive lvl 15?

more reliable then elridge if she can, not to mention nahkimov buff

[patent pivot]

there is no vg pressure, entire vg was at ~50% hp at end of fight

[hollow gust]

huh is voroshilov fleet losing conceal?

the damage discrepancy between 7 and 8 doesnt make sense

[loud cedar]

Should I pick New Jersery or Ulrich Von Hutten from the UR exchange? It'd be the first dupe for both. I could also pick Shimakza who I don't own at all. Shinano I have mlb already.

[hollow gust]

NJ

[patent pivot]

not that i saw

voro i have never been a fan of as nak enabler

have not seen good tests in practice

[hollow gust]

she has consistent slows with nahk whenever i run her

[queen jackal]

im practically in the same boat except i dont have a copy of nj or uvh and was rec'd to pick up uvh for rld tech now idk who to get

[hollow gust]

elridge has a much worse slow then voro x nahk

[hollow gust]

u dont need more then 1 for rainbow tech

[forest palm]

the thing is if you only care about the tech you can just drag the UR to Lv 120, and not worry about MLB'ing

[patent pivot]

in theory yeah, in practice i think she gets cucked by the summons and crap

[queen jackal]

yeah im not worried about mlbing uvh/nj

[loud cedar]

Thanks, I'll pick up the NJ dupe then

[eternal basalt]

Don't mlb her yet, wait for next week

[arctic flower]

Opsi Fleet Build Help

Can someone please help me make an opsi fleet?

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[soft osprey]

just to double check, BUT that meas if I was to put Tirpitz on a fleet with Ironblood BC/BBs this skill would still activate right?

[jaunty vault]

it would only activate on a fleet with IB BB/BV

wait no that's actually wrong

[sweet delta]

The augment enables her to be used with Ironblood BB/BCs, but they are not required

[jaunty vault]

but you get the point ☝️

[tranquil rock]

the wording is kinda ass ngl
but yeah what sushi said

[eternal basalt]

Upgrade from no ships to IB support ship

[soft osprey]

oh perfect

[turbid dawn]

This is all I have for CVs left to level. Is there any of the rare or below ones worth getting and levelling?

[trim path]

taihou is avi

[viscid swift]

no but you'll run out if main fleet ships to level for tech so may as well level the rest of them up

[turbid dawn]

Is it worth doing the tempesta ships then once I finish this?

[viscid swift]

have you finished BB tech yet

[turbid dawn]

I have a bit of RLD left but I’m constantly at 3k exp packs so I’m probably just gonna use them on that and make some use out of them for a change

[viscid swift]

I mean sure, at that point doesn't really matter what you would level for main fleets but I would finish up the remaining tech ships first

[desert tapir]

I realize most of this gear is third best or side grade but I only need her for takeing roons spot in opsiren mob fleet and Roon has been running poverty equipment for awhile.

Will this door for mob fleet?

Should I even bother with the event items or just switch to the basic aux combo?

Would Ryza be a worthwhile replacement for Mainz?

[viscid swift]

she wants regular cruiser auxes instead of her event ones

[floral thunder]

In Hard Mode why am I only able to get 2 stars not 3?

[viscid swift]

turn off clearing mode to get mobs

[desert tapir]

Need to turn auto run off and manually cleric again

[junior walrus]

What is this and what am I doing with them?

[floral thunder]

It’s not on but every time it only gives me the boss to defeat not the escorts

[viscid swift]

clearing mode is not off then

[floral thunder]

Huh?

[viscid swift]

toggle this switch before you enter the map

[floral thunder]

To off or on?

[viscid swift]

turn it off

[floral thunder]

Oh ok! Thanks

[ivory pawn]

Free blueprints for a PR ship because event. You'll probably just be collecting them for now, and saving them for if you ever construct her.

[junior walrus]

speaking of hard mode why does it always default to my second fleet?

[viscid swift]

because that's what you have the roles set to

[junior walrus]

Ahh gotcha thank you

[desert tapir]

So current opsi mob vanguard are Kala, Mogador, and Mainz.
With main fleet being mushashi Uni, FDG.

Does this seem solid or do I need to swap Mushi or Mainz out?

[rancid spruce]

So I just hit Level 80 and have about 8,000 oil in my storage. Should I redeem it all now in trying to get coins so I can upgrade my facilities? Or should I keep the oil until an event comes around?

[stark quiver]

if it works its fine

[undone plover]

oil in storage can be kept for "emergencies"
as a newbie you are likely to get more benefit using it now to progress faster

however daily oil income is also good enough where u can afford to save it
(I started saving 2 months after I started)

up to you really

there is also upcoming yorktown II rerun soonish where u MIGHT want to farm an HVARcat fight plane (BiS plane vs light armor)

[viscid swift]

I would save, not necessarily for an event but for when you really need that oil and can spend that much

[stark quiver]

how much more damage does hvar do to light vs la9s?
like 18%?

[undone plover]

16.5% better at +13 for both but also faster meaning u have more flexibility in other plane slots also not accounting for AVI diff (which is probably ~2% as well)

and 1/3 gold plate cost

[queen jackal]

i was just about to blow my storage oil but ill save for hvars

[desert tapir]

I'm pretty confident in my boss vanguards (can now consistently clear harby evening it's close) so they mostly get gear upgrades.

That being said does it look like anyone from main or van should be rotated out?

[stark quiver]

Damn, cuz by chance I only get 1 to 2 hvars, ima just farm 5 la9

With good gear focus and decent luck how long should 1 UR gear take

[undone plover]

your vanguards could be improved
u want more support ships for the CV fleets like sirius or any ship with ARA

[undone plover]

average probably around 60-70 days

[desert tapir]

ARA?

[undone plover]

air raid assistance
ships like kazagumo or stephen potter

also plymouth is the best vanguard for a BB fleet if she is dev30 u def want to use her

[stark quiver]

Nice I have more than enough time until pr8

[desert tapir]

She is currently not Dev 30. Potter and Kazagumo are in the high 80s. After working them up I imagine the would want Yuudachi or Prinz Heinrichs position in the Van?

[undone plover]

how attached are you to eugen

I would replace eugen/azuma with kazagumo

and put potter instead of heinrich

[desert tapir]

Upfront? Very.

But I'm also aware she's a bullet sponge and at this point I need fire power more then survival.
If I replace Eugen with Kazagumo I would be moving Azuma to tank position yes?

[undone plover]

[coarse heron]

My friend can't open AL. XD

[desert tapir]

[undone plover]

i think there is some issues today cuz of the new yostar account thing
maybe ask #tech-support they can help

[fallow sedge]

Just got ancho today should I equip her with fast Reload tops or high dmg?

[whole crypt]

generally fast reload torps but does Anchorage have enough dev levels to be used

[junior walrus]

Is this high prio from opsi shop?

[novel solstice]

Yes. The gear lab turns those into top-tier gear.

[junior walrus]

word im doing some opsi now to get the last few currency to buy it

I cant quite do corrossion level 5 yet so it's kinda making it difficult, but making it work.

[vivid current]

Hi guys, can anyone tell me what's a good fleet for 12-4? To clear, and then one for farming. Thanks

[soft raft]

Depends on what you have in your dock
Because aloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot of stuff works for W12, it's basically considered the last world that doesnt require too much thought behind comps and it's the main farming spot for the majority of players

[elfin hollow]

Farming: anything that you want to level up and can survive.

[vivid current]

Oh ok, thanks for the help. I'll just keep pushing with my whatever fleet then, I guess haha

[olive fiber]

any of the META ships actually quite good? I failed to get the last copy of Nagato. Thought we had 1 day left

[undone plover]

gold meta ships are all decent
none of them are meta for anything rly
only jintsuu meta for pvp

some have good tech at 120 tho so worth raising when u start tech farming

[soft raft]

There's a few that are pretty decent, but realistically they're tech fodder
"Good but better options exist" to summarize it

[slender turtle]

i thought kasumi meta was okay cause she had crazy high torp

[frozen inlet]

W-13 Help

[undone plover]

lots of ships are ok
doesnt mean they are necesarily good and lots of better options exist

[olive fiber]

Forgive me, tech farming?

[soft raft]

Only problem is that the rest of her kit sucks too much to make good use on that TRP stat

[soft raft]

Fleet tech
Namely their lvl 120 tech bonuses

[fossil shard]

Are any of the pr7 ships useful for world 14?

[whole crypt]

not in particular

[undone plover]

at a certain point (after reaching ch12 and starting operation siren) u could start raising ships that are not necessarily good themselves but give good "tech" at level 120

For example long island gives +1 rld to all your MLB carriers when she is level 120
there are other examples

[fossil shard]

They’re good for world 15 then?

[undone plover]

more of a mid-end game goal

[olive fiber]

Gotcha, thanks. Just another system I forget exists in this game

[fossil shard]

For world 14 do I need all the vanguard to be dds?

[undone plover]

not really, shimanto in pr6 is better than all pr7 for ch15

[undone plover]

1-2 DD in mob usually
can also run 3 but u dont NEED to

[fossil shard]

What about Eldridge is she good for world 14

[fossil shard]

What about boss team

[viscid swift]

yes, she's good for W14 and a lot of other stuff

[whole crypt]

not really, I'd imagine only Bayard sees any real use in 14/15, Nakhimov if you relegate her to support or maybe boss fleet

[undone plover]

not necessarily

[whole crypt]

PR7 just doesn't really stand out for late campaign

[undone plover]

suchi has ranking for end game like ch14 and ch15
check it here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[eager mulch]

is amagi-chan on there

[fossil shard]

Thanks I can build a good fleet with this. Much appreciation to those who responded

[undone plover]

we have a /w15 command u should check if u are trying to build fleets for chapter 15
chapter 14 is much easier than 15 but the fleet examples work for both
if not be sure to ask here
14 has some quirks

[junior walrus]

Just noticed that the shops in OpSi have different things lol. Are certain shops better than others or just check them all daily?

[soft raft]

If you havent unlocked monthly reset yet, each shop has their own pool and they RNG thru it over the course of the month

After you've unlocked monthly reset, Each shop has their own types of items sold and you unlock the better quality stuff by securing zones (50 max for all unlocks)

[junior walrus]

Literally at 46 zones. Trying to push the lvl 5 zones now, just havent had the gold to awaken all my main units so it's causing slight issues.

More than campaign(which im still working on dont get me wrong), I want to get gear labs going. Good gear seems to be the method since so many units are viable in this game.

[low juniper]

In OpSi, if you turn on 'auto exchange items' and 'continue searching when encountering the mysterious merchant', will it buy out her stock or is the auto exchange specific to like, the Siren device that uses special item tokens and energy storage devices?

[viscid swift]

the latter

[soft raft]

the latter
auto search stops if you encounter Akashi

[viscid swift]

well among other things W12 in campaign would get your more gold to be able to awaken your ships in the first place

[junior walrus]

Yeah I just got to stage 10 on campaign this morning, but can't play both game modes at once sadly lol

[undone plover]

so what is algerieM gimmick
I cant kill the pillars right?
do I want AoE dmg?

ik bisko = ez win but I dont have her still

[viscid swift]

pretty much

[soft raft]

iirc it's that damage dealt to the pillars also transfers to AlgerieM herself

[undone plover]

what armor are the pillars?

[viscid swift]

feel free to get creative, this fight basically puts no pressure on your defense apart from a burn which fire extinguisher can take care of

medium armor

[undone plover]

can CV kill?
mine arent even close

[viscid swift]

probably, how close are you getting and what are you running

[junior walrus]

Doesnt albion help with burn if you have her?

[undone plover]

let me check with kear enty avp
amagi nano AvP was giving me 55x with 3 rotations
vanguard dying in around last rotation

[viscid swift]

yeah stick a fire extinguisher on your lowest HP vanguard, that should take care of the vanguard dying

[soft raft]

Lets be real, are you really gonna sacrifice a backline slot for Albion

[junior walrus]

she's done well for me but im still early game lmao

[undone plover]

i forgot does kear want La9? or is it only USS

[junior walrus]

It's a niche ability, but if vangaurd is the problem and his main isn't dying then maybe taking a little off the main for an anti burn unit to keep vangaurd alive could help

[soft raft]

can be both USS or Russian
same goes for her main gun slot

[viscid swift]

yeah here's a bit of an insight into late game
the drop off in damage from a UR CV/BB compared to Albion is worth far far more than dropping an offensive auxiliary on a vanguard for a Fire Extinguisher

[undone plover]

kear enty avp was better
but still not close

oh algerie is medium

nvm I will ditch aurora

what AP gun for kear? 457? or soyuz? both +10

[viscid swift]

457

[floral thunder]

I’m at mission 4-4 and my Northampton always dies at bossfight so I’m thinking of swapping her out. Any help?

[undone plover]

would be a good option here? AP gun penetrate do lots of dmg? or what vanguard would u try?
I wanna try helena-less for now

[viscid swift]

among other things change your fleet to Pennsylvania, Unicorn, Albion, Portland, Z23, San Fransisco
and give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[viscid swift]

I would absolutely just stack as much vanguard damage as possible for the 3rd slot

I would also think about dropping AvP

[undone plover]

does this actually do anything?
make enemy bigger means more bombs land right?

[viscid swift]

no, it doesn't make the enemy hitbox bigger

[undone plover]

amagi 3rd CV?
neko not ready yet

[viscid swift]

this fight is much more forgiving in terms of not landing everything because of the pillars so you can afford, dare I say need to, drop the root for more damage

Amagi would be quite good

[undone plover]

will try
maybe haku 4x DB slot is also good

[viscid swift]

could also work

in fact just try Shinano, Amagi, Haku, [insertshiphere], Kazagumo, Hindenburg

[undone plover]

sirius?

enty dmg was pretty good

[viscid swift]

I was kinda thinking Unzen or Mogador

[undone plover]

ok full dmg IJN will try it

[viscid swift]

Eldridge might work pretty well actually

[copper ermine]

which ships are good for fleet building since the comunity tier list isnt updated?

[viscid swift]

fleet building where exactly

[soft raft]

"General content" isnt a answer btw

[undone plover]

is bf109 still go to or flapjack for more AoE?

[viscid swift]

I would still go Bf-109G and converging TBs

[copper ermine]

sorry i was looking to make a "general fleet" but i forgot that who you use varies by map

[whole crypt]

wasn't Algerie just BisZwei check

[viscid swift]

yes

[whole crypt]

I vaguely remember a Saratoga or Chkalov fleet that bombed the shit out of everything anyway

but Tenrais

[undone plover]

yeah gear seems to be my issue
not enough tenrais

[eager mulch]

does anyone have the link to the datamine

they’re not in the pins

[soft raft]

oh wait it's gone wtf

[eager mulch]

you should check next time, im not an idiot

[viscid swift]

yes as it turns out posting evidence of hacking is not a good idea

[eager mulch]

samheart on the wall of shame

[viscid swift]

but here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vvQzpei97K21nujtFlDyrLoNVzndcChAL3GWLG_IN5Q/edit?gid=1899470306#gid=1899470306

[eager mulch]

i always imagine getting your message pinged as getting kabedoned

[sharp socket]

its just meta fight this week or also have cta

[ivory pawn]

CTA has started, but it's just an experience boost for relevant ships atm.

[sharp socket]

half-dead week then alr

[little tree]

~~ a wonderful time to push campgin time~~

[junior walrus]

How come on Opsi where theres the siren towers you have to destroy it tells me the location has been secured, but it still shows up on map as unfinished and doent count to clearing count.

[weary gust]

Idk, set it to auto and see what your fleet goes to.

I'm guessing there's some sparkly water nodes or a chest or something you haven't picked up.

[elfin hollow]

?core

[soft raft]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[soft raft]

Also for future reference, #bot-spam for personal use of commands

[atomic abyss]

Because nagami was a fucking moron and included the lv 15 video that he's not supposed to have

[junior walrus]

It stops letting me auto and the blue circle appears, but they'll be like 20 units around from me avoiding them while i'm looking for the red nodes to stop them from spawning. Do i have to kill all those units??

[atomic abyss]

No you don't

[weary gust]

Sounds like the spawner walled itself off, you need to break through but you don't need to kill all of them.

[atomic abyss]

They don't give exp, they don't count for your clear

[junior walrus]

So you can just rerun them over and over again?

[atomic abyss]

Just auto and then leave when done

No, protocore is something else entirely

[ivory pawn]

That sounds like a hidden node, you only need to take out those red spawners and grab any loot.
That said, they're special nodes you can only run once, and don't count towards exploration.

You can see them marked on the map by a yellow chest icon.

[undone plover]

if u are manualing hidden zones u want to stop the rally point ASAP
auto ususally has no problem but occassionaly messes up

[junior walrus]

i always focus rally point, but i just thought i was doing something wrong and thats why they weren't finishing

[junior walrus]

if i ignore the special node in the zone then does it clear or its just RNG?

[ivory pawn]

You can go to the normal zone via selecting "explorable" after tapping the left side of the popup, where it says change zone. I should grab a picture, easier to explain.

[vale lotus]

would a nahkimov fleet be better than an amagi fleet for taihou meta?

[undone plover]

are u manualling the hidden zone?
is there a reason for that?
u can just recon and auto clear it

if u manual u need to go these exclamation point to stop the reinforcements

[atomic abyss]

...why not both is the question honestly

[junior walrus]

I auto them and yes i go to the points, but i was just confused why the game was telling me it was cleared, but it was showing as cleared like the normal stages were

[atomic abyss]

Use Nakhi and Amagi together
With your NP slower on the vanguard

[sweet delta]

[junior walrus]

Not showing here even after telling me cleared

[undone plover]

what do u mean by nakhimov fleet and amagi fleet
soy + nakhimov usually does less heavy dmg than amagi + 2 other IJN

u can also just run both together but we need to wait for testing and for taihouM to get to level 15 which will take time

[ivory pawn]

It's not an explorable zone, that's why.

[vale lotus]

sure, I just don't know what fleets nahk works in right now

[atomic abyss]

Hidden zones don't count to the count there
Only explorable zones do

[junior walrus]

Okay noted. I just thought I was doing something wrong.

[atomic abyss]

Then why ask about Nakhi fleets

[vale lotus]

so that if someone tells me to use a nahk fleet then I ask them how to make a nahk fleet lol

[atomic abyss]

Amagi is going to be distinctly better for heavy the moment she has shinano with her (or Haku to a less extent)

[undone plover]

even alone she might be better

[atomic abyss]

No

[nocturne glade]

if im getting As on fights, do i need to level ships or should I just keep rushing ch9? As far as I can tell getting an A doesnt do anything negative

[atomic abyss]

Nakhi with NP proc does more than amagi against heavy as far as maffs is concerned

[undone plover]

well u would also prolly run unzen
idk if that changes things

[atomic abyss]

A does actually mean you get less loot and less exp so...

[soft raft]

A isnt too bad (but still worse than S)
S mainly guarentees a ship drop

[atomic abyss]

The answer is yes keep levelling
Prolly on 9-1

[undone plover]

if u are pushing getting A is fine
if u are farming it is less fine

[soft raft]

just gotta get better gear, more lvls, and more limit breaks

[nocturne glade]

oh didnt notice, I guess i'll just keep oushing and level at ch9

[atomic abyss]

Well ideally you'd probably run impla with amagi in that case
Or run Nakhi as the slower
But it remains to be seen what's maihou's vanguard pressure

Ok maihou sounds even worse than meh hou

[nocturne glade]

also is there a way to farm decor points or is commissions the main source?

[atomic abyss]

It's like everyone calling her their hou now 💀

[atomic abyss]

Comms are the main source for decor tokens yes

[nocturne glade]

awesome, ty!

[barren tapir]

why not just call her taimou

[atomic abyss]

Now that's actually a fine suggestion

Tho it does make her sound like a cow now (in Japanese at least)

[tranquil rock]

which one

[atomic abyss]

They do completely different things

[tranquil rock]

uhhhh

[undone plover]

never make the top one from gear lab
waste of resources

[sweet delta]

Neither

[tranquil rock]

oh

[atomic abyss]

The top is the precursor for the staag which is for BB/C
You don't need to craft them, you get enough from research

[tranquil rock]

ok

[atomic abyss]

The bottom is the 2nd best AA gun

But if you don't know what you're doing, stick to Roomba aka twin 113

[tranquil rock]

do i craft?

[atomic abyss]

Eventually

[sweet delta]

We have no clue how many wyverns or other things you have

[tranquil rock]

thats the best aa gun ingame currently
but do i go for the gold one then save for the UR one

[undone plover]

do u have 9 UR designs?
or do u need to convert selector designs for it?

[atomic abyss]

It's a fair bit down the list of rainbow gear you shd prioritise

[tranquil rock]

no wyverns

[atomic abyss]

Then ignore it and craft your wyverns first

[tranquil rock]

ok

[atomic abyss]

I highly doubt you're at w15 where using the UR AA would be noticably better

[stark quiver]

In campaign does amagi cv want double wyvern

[tranquil rock]

im at w10? i think hold up lemme check

yeah w10

[frank pulsar]

you dont need to worry about aa until w12/13

[atomic abyss]

I feel like the argument could go either way tbh

[tranquil rock]

also do i go for flapjack then wyvern or

[stark quiver]

Cuz if she might, I’d get a 4th wyvern

[frank pulsar]

but yea like ender said the only place youll probably need it is w15 so just ignore it for now
make wyvern before flapjack

[south sequoia]

is anti light cv backline now kear yk2 nakhi with np slow on vg?

[atomic abyss]

No then
Tenrai better for splash damage
Which is king in campaign usually

The only debate is because of the AA

[undone plover]

doesnt enty still beat that if u are lucky

[frank pulsar]

outside of w13/w15 prob tenrai imho

[stark quiver]

Nothing 5 Ur aa per fleet can’t solve

[atomic abyss]

Well if your boss doesn't move, maybe?

[frank pulsar]

100% enty is only a lil bit better than unbuffed nano in terms of dmg iirc
nahk is just very strong dmg

[tranquil rock]

i have none of the top planes from gear lab
no tenrai/wyvern nothing

[sweet delta]

Nakh is only used if a slow is needed,otherwise 100% lucky enterprise

[atomic abyss]

Wyvern first

[tranquil rock]

alright
or should i tenrai

[atomic abyss]

Since it's a substantial upgrade over barracudas

Tenrai and wyvern do not compete for the same mats even

Tenrai is not in gear lab yet

[undone plover]

ppl underestimating enty

[stark quiver]

Enty gud

[atomic abyss]

Tenrai for now is protocore and PR4 only

Wyvern is gear lab only

[tranquil rock]

oh

[stark quiver]

What event did wyvern come from

[keen sable]

Ops

[atomic abyss]

Opsi

[south sequoia]

I would 100% use enty even with nano haku if there was a light armored boss that actually didnt move

[tranquil rock]

literally poor

[frank pulsar]

you can try testing it somewhere

[atomic abyss]

It was never an event gear that was "added"

[stark quiver]

Oh bruh I thought they came from event first

[tranquil rock]

no lol
p sure they were always in opsi last time i remember

[sweet delta]

The event has been going on for 4 years

[nocturne glade]

is there a place I can find out which ships collab ships are clones of?

[undone plover]

I dont have YKii and HVARs
but I will test em for you in 2 months

[atomic abyss]

They aren't clones tho

[viscid swift]

uhh what

[keen sable]

Spearfish event was good event

[stark quiver]

Search up the character?

[nocturne glade]

oh are they not

[viscid swift]

why would they be

[atomic abyss]

Lore wise they're literally transported to the world of AL

[frank pulsar]

when i dev30 my nahk i can test arnd a week or two away cuz im 🐌

[nocturne glade]

i guess that makes sense

[atomic abyss]

Gameplay wise they are not clones of anyone else as far as I'm aware

[sweet delta]

There are very similar ships but they're not clones

[atomic abyss]

And why do you need to know who they're clones of when their actual name is there

[tranquil rock]

oh wow

[weary gust]

Idk the Kizuna collab was basically clones~~ of herself~~

[tranquil rock]

i literally just noticed

[atomic abyss]

The difference is kizuna is an AI canonically (not in real life tho)

[nocturne glade]

i see

[atomic abyss]

And that kizuna can't decide if she wants to stay shut down or not

[keen sable]

I heard neptune is a clone of a Playstation

[weary gust]

What armor type is Taihomie?

[viscid swift]

heavy

[atomic abyss]

Sounds delicious
She's heavy armour like her og and 13-4 version

[tranquil rock]

how does RLD stat work again

[weary gust]

more rld = faster fire rate.