gameplay-help

[soft raft]

I mean when he somehow extrapolated that i called FdG "Not too bad", that's a bit also on him but I digress

[forest palm]

that sentence no matter how you look at it reads terribly, and only makes sense in hindsight

[wind hazel]

blaster need correction

[hollow gust]

It's not that bad

[crisp tree]

Hypothetically speaking, once I get Napoli's Combat mission research quests done I have enough blueprints to get her to 5 star but not enough for max LMB, would she be better then retro shopshire or nah?

[forest palm]

ya that would be an upgrade

[atomic abyss]

shrop retro is a DPS, not a tank

napoli at 5* would already beat out a lot of actual tanks

[crisp tree]

What about her DPS? Doesn't she do atleast a respectable amount or full tank?

[forest palm]

Napoli at Dev 20 would beat out Shrop in every aspect

[cobalt rapids]

does she beat shropshire in dmg

[atomic abyss]

her DPS is good as far as tanks go

i highly doubt she beats shrop in DPS tho

165% DD gun is cracked...

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't say for sure whether an incomplete Napoli will beat Shropshire in DPS but the difference is moot anyway

[atomic abyss]

i would go as far to say even a d30 napoli would lose to shrop in DPS lol

[whole crypt]

it doesn't matter

[crisp tree]

Ive already invested the 40k coins and 10 wisdom cubes plus all the blueprints I farmed so it's not like I can back out now anyways

[atomic abyss]

just use her as a tank

[viscid swift]

it's not you'd want to either

[whole crypt]

napoli and shropshire on CN wiki

the red buff is probably shropshire's artillery command or some shit

[atomic abyss]

shrop also has double gun

[shell willow]

what do the different columns mean?

[cobalt rapids]

L/M/H/smth?raw?

[shell willow]

ic

[whole crypt]

light/medium/heavy DPS/"weighted total"/rdps

[crimson glacier]

shropshire is relevant?

[whole crypt]

the column with red number on shropshire is in-fleet buff, column blank on both is cross

[frank pulsar]

for newbies probably, otherwise i dont really see a use for her

[atomic abyss]

im sick of people treating her as tho she's garbage

[crisp tree]

Huh, difference is so small that I probably won't notice it anyways lol

[forest palm]

as far as intermediate gun boats go Shrop ain't so bad tbh

[whole crypt]

she's cheap to work on as an early game DPS CA... but you don't really have a real slot for her anywhere on starter fleets

cruiser prints go to Portland first anyway

[atomic abyss]

i'd even argue she's better to retro than port if not for the fact port retro is required by the newbie missions

[crimson glacier]

id rather retro london

[viscid swift]

why

[crisp tree]

Shropshire retro is mid and that's decent enough, she's a good placeholder for better stuff

[atomic abyss]

shrop is better than london in almost every regard

[forest palm]

iirc London is slightly worse, and costs more

[viscid swift]

Shropshire is literally the same as london but cheaper to retro

[whole crypt]

I'd argue she's not better than Portland to retrofit regardless of mission because you want a tank more

[atomic abyss]

better skills better gun eff lol

[crimson glacier]

oh then i just dont remember her at all

[whole crypt]

shropshire retrofit came a lot later she's just a cheaper london with basically same stats

[atomic abyss]

london

shrop

[crimson glacier]

that does sound familar now

the london boom was just already over back then so it didnt really stick to my mind

[atomic abyss]

ikr

[whole crypt]

the idea is by the time shropshire's turn for retrofit comes round you should already have something better, or there's otherwise no slot for her in the fleet anyway

[soft raft]

lol I remember London Retro
Was one of my favorite ships back when I first started

[crimson glacier]

i guess shrop is decent for hard mode torp req if you need CA

[whole crypt]

the best part about London retrofit is when they forgot to code black torp properly for when London uses a gun instead 🙂

[crimson glacier]

they fixed it too fast so i didnt have a chance to try it

[whole crypt]

it was just visually funny, you didn't miss much in practice

it fired like a DD gun but the projectiles were all black torps

London/Shropshire can somewhat help fill TRP reqs without actually needing to use torps I guess

[atomic abyss]

It's the same with Tosa and co, tho they're backliners

[pseudo hearth]

Does Shropshire have Glasses though?

[atomic abyss]

I must confess that I have been using Shropshire as a solo VG for first clearing event HM when it's CA locked and not DD

She is unfortunately more costly than a DDG

[whole crypt]

eh, usually if one fleet hard reqs CA I use the other fleet instead

[crimson glacier]

id probably use unzen

[forest palm]

if only that was a luxury everyone could afford

[crimson glacier]

you can just use more ships

[forest palm]

almost as if the context was simply "HM" "CA req"

[crimson glacier]

yeah but it also kinda just doesnt really matter usually unless you want to save oil on first clear

[whole crypt]

you can pack the CA fleet with whatever TRP for reqs then use the fleet not locked to CA for clearing

[forest palm]

again though Unzen is factually a luxury not everyone can afford

[wind hazel]

use Ibuki, she's free

[whole crypt]

I didn't say anything about Unzen but sure
I was just pointing out you didn't need to use the fleet locked with CA on top of TRP req

[forest palm]

this is about Torva's brain dead comment not you

[crimson glacier]

you just confuse me

[left cedar]

old GPH it will reccomend CA with TRP Auxs instead go saying Unzen

but yeah, avoid USS CAs ... cuz they have low to none TRP stats... and if possible Unzen/Ibuki cuz they are probally CA with highest CA TRP stat

[opaque gate]

are all PR6 weapons bad?

[wind hazel]

no, at least half of them are good

[left cedar]

not all, majority are kinda worse than actual, or side grades

and the only one its a CA AP Gun, usefull for 2-3 CAs and hardly noticiable on all others

[opaque gate]

any prototype weapon blueprint pr6 worthy?

[forest palm]

most all PR6 weapons are kind of good, but you don't really need, or improve upon existing weapons

[left cedar]

if u lack Champy Guns and dont wanna invest Proto on it, them 380 MLE

[opaque gate]

i see, cuz i lack good, or at least above average gears for myy ships

[left cedar]

its a bit worse than Champy, but about the same on practice

[opaque gate]

im good with bb guns alr

[forest palm]

the 2 CL guns are very niche, the CA gun is going to have use but since we're in a CB heavy meta you may as well settle for a 234, the 2 BB guns one is niche the other is an alternative to the 406/50

[opaque gate]

i mean for vanguards are what i need

[forest palm]

basically there's nothing among this I'd say is strictly worth protocore'ing for

[opaque gate]

ok, thankss

how about PR5?

[forest palm]

DD guns is nice, and the TB is a intermediary to the Wyvern, so not really

[opaque gate]

ok so just the DD gun

[forest palm]

if you're not getting into 100 kai sure

[jaunty glade]

avp worth taking to 125?

ty

[little tree]

~~ i find avp's DMG to be subpar at best ~~

[soft raft]

That's not why you'd use AvP in the first place

[little tree]

~~ i know the slow ~~

[wind hazel]

you're not wrong

[forest palm]

we use a lot of shit ships, but tolarate them for their utility

[little tree]

Can you do normal arbiter more then once but get no rewards on Atempets after the first ?

( for testing Things )

[forest palm]

I know you can refight, but I think it just defaults to Hard Mode

[inland shoal]

No you get Hard Arbiter instead

[little tree]

That works for me

Im try cooking hopefully i dont brun the kitchen down

[left cedar]

Relax, H-39 CV is comming and will came with a buff to KMS CVs

[formal zenith]

Is this normal damage for level 120 vanguards ?

[swift vector]

lf OPSI fleet build

[eager mulch]

[atomic abyss]

for poorly geared/non mlb vanguards, yes

[left cedar]

seens like My Eugen ...

[formal zenith]

Whats the average damage ?

San Diego is like the only vanguard ship that breaks 50k on bosses for me

[soft raft]

first off, what content are you even doing?
Cuz endscreen damage numbers can vary depending on the length of the fight

[atomic abyss]

ibuki specifically should deal well into 150k assuming this is nagato meta

[left cedar]

60k~90k
some exceptions can go over 100k

[formal zenith]

It is

[formal zenith]

Holy shit im WAY OFF

[atomic abyss]

amagi and shinano shd have 2x-3x the damage they're dealing

[formal zenith]

and they're 125....

[soft raft]

what content are you even doing?

[left cedar]

if u are a begginer or mid player lacking top notch gears, arent that bad

[formal zenith]

Nagato meta

[left cedar]

of course, can be improved, but, isnt of all bad

[soft raft]

Dawg why are you using a D10 Shimanto there

[left cedar]

more surprising her doing the highest VG dmg

[soft raft]

this sounds like a very very very bad case of bad gear

[wind hazel]

[formal zenith]

Here I am thinking I have decentish gear

[soft raft]

That's definetly not good enough for good numbers on META fights
Ignoring the fact that Musashi and Shimanto arent MLB/D30

your planes are all over the place and Brest gun is too slow to be worth using. Also if Azuma isnt FS5, one of her skills partly breaks if you dont have a HE Gun on her which is not what you want against heavy armor

[atomic abyss]

shimanto only dealt as much damage as ibuki because she had the mag torps

[cobalt rapids]

unoptimal/bad planes for cvs
unoptimal mg for musashi ( replace her anyway shes not mlb )
unoptimal gear for azuma ( should be replaced either way )
unoptimal gear for ibuki
shimanto is alr in gear department but shes not mlb so replace her anyway

[formal zenith]

Gonna drop Shimanto for Yuudachi or Kawakaze till shes MLB

[formal zenith]

So far I've been following the tier list for gearing

[eager mulch]

the tierlist works if you know what circumstances you need the gear for

[cobalt rapids]

gearing is content dependant
the tierlist provides just the gears that are least terrible if u were to take em everywhere

[cobalt rapids]

heres an example how they should be geared for this fight for the ships that dont rly need to be replace for nagatometa
but gear is flexible if u know their sidegrades

[formal zenith]

Looks like I have some research to do about gearing

[eager mulch]

can you put a placeholder amagi-chan in between Shinano and haku please

[cobalt rapids]

i can put amagi-ChanV

[eager mulch]

[cobalt rapids]

it was amagi cv not haku anyway

[hollow gust]

~~ the fact that non mlb musashi is the highest damage~~

[formal zenith]

Im that much of a mess

Guess it also shows how strong she is

[warm river]

Your Ibuki does not have her Module, you should get it ASAP because it increases her Damage by a lot (and makes her slightly harder to kill). She would easily have outperformed Shimanto if she had it,~~ no matter what Torpedoes you use on her~~ (preferably fast loading ones, with high TRP stat and good individual damage)

[strange sphinx]

NAGATO META

[keen sable]

2LB sushi ❌

[junior walrus]

I already made 1 406mm. Should I make another for my second team?

[viscid swift]

yes

[eternal moth]

I assume it's better to Sara's aug before Nimi's?

[sweet delta]

It's better to not have nimis Aug imo

[inland shoal]

You mean not worth the cost?

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message and Sandy exists

[inland shoal]

Yeah I agree

[stark quiver]

Is there gonna be data mine for new meta boss

[viscid swift]

yes probably

[cyan ravine]

For the strategic search on operation siren, what does it mean by “automatically exchange items”? Does that mean it will automatically spend action point refills?

And if so is there is a limit? If I leave it running for hours would it just not stop until all my refills and oil is drained?

[eager mulch]

anytime it asks if you want to exchange an ESD it will

it does not auto use AP boxes

[vale spindle]

Does next update have any relevant dataminable content except the aux

[inland shoal]

You mean in several hours or next week?

Wait next week is already the event isn't it?

[hollow sail]

the META boss?

[inland shoal]

@vale spindle

Ofc the ship too

[eternal basalt]

[fervent sage]

Is Nakhimov worth grinding for or is Chkalov a better PR Choice

[hollow sail]

nakhimov is a newer rainbow chkalov is an older gold, nakhimov is much stronger

[inland shoal]

As a ship Nakhimov is the superior choice
But who you should go for kinda depends on what you have to work with

(Chkalov is most likely not the answer tho, but it might be someone other than Chkalov or Nakhi)

[fervent sage]

honestly I just need a NP carrier

and I don't feel like rolling for Volga

[hollow sail]

rolling for volga is not currently an option anyway

[fervent sage]

is she seasonal or something?

[eternal basalt]

Event ship

[fervent sage]

oh alr

[vale spindle]

They didnt announce it in en though omegalilwoo

[eternal basalt]

And JP. Both didn't get an X-post though

[patent raft]

Is there a way to "auto repeat sortie afk grind" in azur lane?

[vale spindle]

only in opsi

[patent raft]

Opsi what

[boreal wagon]

u mean the meta ship? cuz that is in the patch notes

[vale spindle]

operation siren, the game mode

[patent raft]

Oh ok

[vale spindle]

in normal story you can only 3x

[patent raft]

What about opsi?

[vale spindle]

infinite as long as you have stamina

[forest palm]

wait EN still hasn't announced Taihou Meta

[boreal wagon]

they have

[patent raft]

Damn

[eternal basalt]

Neither has JP

[boreal wagon]

https://cdn.mrlar.dev/i/Rn1WIGO99lucGF4i68fuG.png

[forest palm]

that's not much of an announcement, and more of an, "oh btw"

[patent raft]

I already have now

[boreal wagon]

i mean its part of the patch notes which are an announcement but ig if you wanna twist the definition of an announcement

[eternal basalt]

They haven't shown her off

[inland shoal]

Yes, cn is the only one that has gotten the "twitter" showcase

[boreal wagon]

which is different from not having announced her at all

[inland shoal]

It was pretty clear what they meant imo

[forest palm]

exactly, the announcement is more for the patch notes, what you posted is just what's included, what I was talking about was a twitter post

[keen sable]

3 or 4 + HELP is basically going to ruin your ships

[patent raft]

Right.......

[patent raft]

If you don me ask, what kind of Taihou µ use during performance?

[keen sable]

Taihou ~ Taihou u != Taihou META

[patent raft]

The performance

[keen sable]

what performance?

[patent raft]

1 minutes...

[keen sable]

of Taihou META? no one knows.

[polar raft]

Where is UR Amagi ranked? Tier EX or tier 0?

[patent raft]

What is that things?

[keen sable]

There's no realistic difference

[patent raft]

I really want to know what she use when performance

[keen sable]

probably 0 since no stop

[inland shoal]

That's a fan ... 🪭

[keen sable]

a microphone? that's not an instrument. ||it's her tail||

[fast steppe]

got a 2nd champy gun but i'm out of pr3 prints this month, should i hold on to my protocore for a 3rd or buy some quad 152 prints

[ebon storm]

Can i coin avp?

[fast steppe]

already have a tenrai but still have 37 prints left to buy if that helps

[keen sable]

get what you need

[patent raft]

That actually koto combine with fan. Take little time to search

Thank to chatgpt....

[keen sable]

#al-general

[fast steppe]

also if i've already got a 406 mk7 and a wyvern which rainbow from gear lab should i go for next

[eternal moth]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[fast steppe]

yeah i was going off the pic but there's a bunch all listed at about equal priority

[eternal moth]

Probably DD gun

Although if you only have one wyvern I'd probably say more wyverns instead.

[fast steppe]

yeah just 1

aight wyverns it is then

[eternal moth]

Get 2-3 if you have the plates for them and then get one or 2 DD guns

[fast steppe]

only got like 3 plates lol

but i'll work on it

[ebon storm]

Hen doing strategic search why does it still stop me with the prompt “lets look around to make sure we got everything” or something like that

[uncut zinc]

hello again all. sorry to ask but what is a good ship thats not unicorn that can heal orther ships if that exist?

[atomic abyss]

perseus is the closest

[atomic abyss]

go to settings, turn ON "reduce TB guidance"

[uncut zinc]

know any that is good for starting because im lvl 28 rn xd

[atomic abyss]

no, you wouldnt be able to get her even

[sweet delta]

What's wrong with unicorn

[atomic abyss]

just use unicorn

[uncut zinc]

i dont have unicorn

[cobalt rapids]

u can grab her from guild shop

[uncut zinc]

its not there for me do?

[atomic abyss]

she is purchasable in the guild shop
no you dont have to be in a guild

[uncut zinc]

OH its a elite ship?

thx all just got the caracter

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

you may want to read this btw

[uncut zinc]

that dint help. but i taugth unicorn was sr lol but its elite. so thx for all. bye have a nice day now

[atomic abyss]

the guide says it's elite tho

[uncut zinc]

ok so u telling me i read that guide 2 times and i missed that page?

[sweet delta]

Portland is a great tank for late game?

[eager mulch]

if Sam says so then it must be true

[atomic abyss]

mid-late game =/= late game

[uncut zinc]

well thx again. bye have a nice day all now. hopping off dc

[sweet delta]

Middle of late game

[undone plover]

early, early-mid, mid, mid-late, late

[cobalt rapids]

what are these stages

[undone plover]

ask sam

[forest palm]

then there's end game

[eager mulch]

mini game

[novel solstice]

Portland can happily tank through W13 at least. By the time you get to W15 or are doing hard arbiter, you want to upgrade to one of the CBs

[forest palm]

take the off season Q ULs, or nah?

[eternal basalt]

How many cubes you got?

[forest palm]

well considering it's a Q UL I'd say I have enough

[eternal basalt]

Q UL's take 5, how many you got? (iz wrong)

[forest palm]

Q ULs don't take cubes

only H, and D UL take cubes

[ivory pawn]

Is UL the 30m one? I’d take it. If there’s nothing else I want, I’d still take it.

[eternal basalt]

Then take it, yeah

[vital meadow]

Are we gonna get a new meta ship tomorrow or next week?

[atomic abyss]

From patchnotes

[elfin hollow]

what about algerie meta

[soft raft]

same patch

[elfin hollow]

ah

[atomic abyss]

#game-news for patch notes

[forest palm]

[flint forum]

hello just wondering is there a way to purchse the decor tokens, and yes ik they you can earn them but i came back tpop my old account being lost and ijust wanna get my old dorm back

[vale spindle]

no, you just use gems directly to get the furniture

[eternal moth]

The more I'm looking at it, the more I'm thinking the level 70 commander boost pack is a really good deal. 200 T2 XP books are really spicy.

[flint forum]

they are

thats what i did and ty sam

is there a way to taell how much gems ill need>.<

[ebon storm]

is ibuki worth the investment?

[eternal moth]

Yes, but she's a pretty hefty investment, since you also need to get her augment

[crisp raven]

during an active event, there is a dorm token pack. 500 tokens for 500 gems i believe, and you can buy it up to 2 times. that said, ive never done the math if buying the furniture with gems is better than buying the packs.

[ebon storm]

im still 100+ tech points away from starting haku so just wanted some easy ship to research

[eternal moth]

Oh then yeah, go for Ibuki and Izuma if you don't have them yet

[ebon storm]

how does ibuki compare to sandy

[eternal moth]

Completely different. She's a torp-focused CA, not an AA gunship

[atomic abyss]

completely different ships that do completely different things

[ebon storm]

im guessing similar to shimanto?

[eternal moth]

She's closer to Unzen than Sandy

[atomic abyss]

shimanto can be compared with sandy

ibuki with unzen/shimakaze

[eternal moth]

She doesn't do AA well at all

[ebon storm]

is shima/unzen that much of a jump from ibuki?

[atomic abyss]

unzen yes
shima not as big if on auto

[ebon storm]

noice

[eternal moth]

Unzen's pretty busted, Shima not so much

Power creep is real

[ebon storm]

guess ill just ibuki for tech

[eternal moth]

Do you have Izumo built yet?

[ebon storm]

naw

[eternal moth]

She gives more tech points

[keen sable]

shirley there are easier tech sources than spending 6 days on ibuki

[ebon storm]

the best approach is to just build no one i guess

im just very undecided lol

[eternal moth]

If you aren't building anyone else then I'd do one of the two. Izumo gives more tech points though

[ebon storm]

aight thanks

[gusty olive]

Against light, what's stronger?

NJ gun or Georgia gun?

[eternal moth]

Is there a command for explaining recon value? I didn't see one in tags, and I can't remember where to find it in the wiki

[eternal moth]

NJ by far

[stark quiver]

the HE gun

[keen sable]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Reconnaissance

[eternal moth]

Thanks

[gusty olive]

Is Nagato META for Heavy Armor or Light Armor enemies/boss?

[atomic abyss]

Heavy
She follows OG Nagato

...on that note, Taihou will be heavy too huh

[eternal moth]

She should be

[crimson glacier]

isnt he asking which armor does nagato meta do more dmg to

[atomic abyss]

I doubt so
But even if they were, what would that change

VH only changes between med and heavy to begin with

[crimson glacier]

how is VH relevant here

[atomic abyss]

What other ways are there to change armour types

Without changing the very ship you're using

[crimson glacier]

read my message again

[atomic abyss]

Oh, I misread it as Nagato meta the boss

The answer is neither as she's a mobber anyways

Tho iirc it's light centric

[dreamy blade]

yeah she's best used in mob fleet without any other IJN ships for the improved barrage

[silk sphinx]

anyone know what android version does azur lane need to run on?

trying to get a specific version of bluestacks

[silk sphinx]

i guess nougat 32 will do?

thanks anyways

[eager mulch]

[humble solar]

Should I keep 1 star ships for collection or nah

I'm running out of dock space (because of bullins)

[stark quiver]

u can retire easily farmable ships

[viscid swift]

I'd use the bullins first

[little tree]

Arbiter is heavy this month correct ?

[soft raft]

yup

[humble solar]

My problem is they're UR bulljns

[stark quiver]

ranbow bulins?
how much do you have

[viscid swift]

why did you buy them before you needed them

[soft raft]

they could just be Cruise pass/event pt rewards

[eternal moth]

The number you'd get from those rewards shouldn't be THAT big an impact on your dock space though

[stark quiver]

i highly doubt someone has so much UR bulins to make them run out of dock

[soft raft]

true
like at most you'd have like maybe 2 in-between UR events

[stark quiver]

but one can never be too sure

[little tree]

Harbiter need to kill 25 more hp bars

[earnest crag]

Are any of these units good for a beginner or should I wait until next reset since I have enough medals for one.

[rain vine]

i would save

[earnest crag]

Oh okay thanks

[hollow sail]

you are going to want san diego and sirius sooner or later (the former before the latter probably), san diego is quite strong with full investment, just might take a little bit of time to get there. at the very least try to get enough medals to pick both of them up alongside the other important stuff in medal shop before the month rolls over

[soft raft]

save
especially if you dont have Enteprise and Hood yet

San Diego and Sirius can wait until later

[ivory pawn]

We got like 20 days until reset. Plenty of time to get another 80 medals or more.

Not a bad idea to grab Sandy or Sirius. Idk who'd be a higher priority tho.

[thorn tartan]

should i get an extra 6 flapjacks for the support fleet in w15?

[soft raft]

if you want to sure
flaps for support arent as required for W15 as for your main fleets

[thorn tartan]

can't hurt to get them......

it will cost some electronics and stuff

plates seem to be more of the limiting factor tho

[stark quiver]

Do u not have anything better to spend your ords on

[thorn tartan]

is there something better?

[stark quiver]

well theres prolly a gear lab update sometime in janurary, bringing the plymouth gun and tenrai to it

[thorn tartan]

the ur dive bomber?

sweet, i need more of those. but will i run out of whatever it takes to build them?

[weary gust]

You'll run out of electronics and UR designs. (I imagine)

[thorn tartan]

yeah, flaps might cost me too many eletronics

i can get the 2nd option that the guide recommends

[stark quiver]

and ords

[stark quiver]

if u have enough flapjacks for your main fleets, then just run skyrocker/fw for suppoirt

[thorn tartan]

i already bought flabjacks for my support fleet, but then i decided to level up indom and chen hai, so now i need a couple more

[stark quiver]

just run skyroccket/fw

[thorn tartan]

okay, i'l grab a couple now, looking in lab

eagle union xf5f skyrocket

Is there any reason not to get another UR AA gun from the gearlab? I have enough UR prints for it

[stark quiver]

well if u have enough why not

[thorn tartan]

maybe update has new gun coming

[stark quiver]

if u have just AA bps, why not
but dont convert selectors to make more

[thorn tartan]

what are selectors? the wildcard bps? I think I have 40 of those

[stark quiver]

yea, id just save i guess

[thorn tartan]

should i put independence, shinano or amagi(cv) in the boss fleet

along with Haku and Alsace

for w15

[rare wyvern]

Doesnt Alsace/Shinano/Amagi work even better ?

[thorn tartan]

better than Haku, idk

[rare wyvern]

That's what I was told for the most part

[lament hazel]

pretty much wondering

Is doing OpSi on weekends enough for me to do the whole sh-

[thorn tartan]

i mean there are dailies, but then stack up a bit

[stark quiver]

mob
BB,unicorn,secondary healer

boss
bb,crossfleet,crossfleet

[stark quiver]

and id put indep/amagi cv in boss

[lament hazel]

For non Opsi dailies, I can do it everyday

But Opsi dailies, I can only do such in weekends...

I wonder if doing Opsi Dailies on weekends would be enough for what it has to offer

[stark quiver]

no

[lament hazel]

for me

mob
Uni/Healers that connect to your PR, Optional/PR, Optional/PR, Whatever
(If you have Crossfleeter that happens to be connected to PR, use them)

Boss
All Crossfleeter(All they do is sit and crossfleet the heck out)

Note: I am not a pro, take this sh- with huge grains of salt

[viscid swift]

uhhh

you know they were asking about W15 right

[thorn tartan]

Amagi CV over Haku for boss fleet?

okay, will give it a try. it will be the only IJN ship tho

[stark quiver]

whats your boss rn

[thorn tartan]

i have Alsace, Independence, Haku, Plymouth, Sandy, Guam

[stark quiver]

yea thats good

just replace haku with amagi

[thorn tartan]

ok

[zenith heron]

So a Boss Fleet can actually do Lethal W15 without a support ship that gives survivability (Excluding AA and ASW)? Not Mob fleet ofc...

[viscid swift]

yes, been able to since the start

[zenith heron]

I thought at the w15 guide that those supports are needed like either a Perseus or a JDA, But I guess its for easier runs, but still doable without them in a Boss, ic ic

[stark quiver]

not needed if u kill the boss fast enough

[sinful escarp]

for w15 if one ship already has l60 bofors, is it better to give sandy another l60 or just sexy bofors?

[soft raft]

tf is a l60

[sinful escarp]

rainbow AA

[sharp socket]

call that one UR AA in the future

[sinful escarp]

i dont remember what its nickname is

anyways which is better?

[stark quiver]

57
sexy for your AA carry

[sharp socket]

sandy take sextuple

[sinful escarp]

ahh thanks

[strange sphinx]

hmmm I only do Abyss and stronghold in opsi unless I saw some good Daily mission ... is it enough?

[hollow sail]

enough for what

[strange sphinx]

gonna copy what NoWokLurker said. "would be enough for what it has to offer"

[wind hazel]

do all your daily mission

[hollow sail]

hiddens give a lot too

generally not a good idea to slack opsi

[strange sphinx]

Abyss kinda take all my AP

[stark quiver]

then wait

[wind hazel]

or open AP box

[strange sphinx]

technically I almost completed all Hidden even what shop can give

[viscid swift]

do you not clear all of your explorables each month

[crisp raven]

do everything. first clears each month give a lot of resources. hiddens, abyssals and strongholds also give a lot and can drop ur bps (some from cat rng, others as loot table drops), and buy out the shops for what you want/need. spend the rest of your ap repeating zones since they can give gold plates for +13 equipment. youre leaving so much future potential on the table by not clearing opsi

[strange sphinx]

hmmm ic

[thorn tartan]

for some reason i wasn't able to call my subs on 15-2 boss

they had ammo and were in range

[viscid swift]

they weren't in range then

the hunting ranges can be a bit difficult to tell if you're in range or not sometimes

[thorn tartan]

there was only 1 square between the sub and the boss

[viscid swift]

also tip, explorable is how you sustain AP in the early part of the month, your targets are explorable which wil give you at least 100 AP from clearing them

[viscid swift]

screen shots?

[thorn tartan]

i started over already

[leaden geode]

s anyone good at games? Please play with me and I will reward you with surprises.

[viscid swift]

50/50 on whether I should call mods

[stark quiver]

you missed #al-lore

[undone plover]

they spammed every channel
prolly a bot

[sweet delta]

They're gone

[undone plover]

sushi are u pre-cooking this META fight

[sweet delta]

Not much point in my guessing fleets when hackers can just test real results

[stark quiver]

between bis2,vanny,alsace,musashi, which 3 are best for heavy armor bossing

[viscid swift]

good question

[zenith heron]

Musa I think but Isn't Bis Zwei 2nd due to her flexible dmg against every armor?

[thorn tartan]

does the launch strike in w15 work on the boss

[stark quiver]

iirc no

[thorn tartan]

Airstrike can be used on a 2 row by 5 column rectangle, (2 left, 2 right, 1 up from the target point), to subtract 10% HP from all enemy ships in the affected non-boss enemy fleets.

[wind hazel]

doesnt work on boss

just use them on the super CV

[thorn tartan]

i can usually take out the super cv with no damage using the subs

[rare wyvern]

Do you ever put a Steam Catapult on Kearsarge for Aux ? Or full FP ?

[soft raft]

full FP

she doesnt have enough planes to justify catapults

[sweet delta]

I put avi on kearsarge when the boss takes 10x burn damage

[eternal moth]

Thoughts on Riche? Better or worse than Hood for mobbing?

[soft raft]

Doesnt have 100% barrage proc rate
Preload isnt too bad but with Unicorn retro preload being a thing, most of it is probably gonna be wasted

[strange sphinx]

hmmm should I ignore corrosion 4 below in explorable?

[viscid swift]

do them all

[strange sphinx]

ic

[plain saffron]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vvQzpei97K21nujtFlDyrLoNVzndcChAL3GWLG_IN5Q/edit?gid=0#gid=0

https://streamable.com/foy137
https://streamable.com/czcp3z

[forest palm]

ah that's a pretty cool chat frame

[viscid swift]

how many points are needed this time?

[eternal moth]

1st ability barrage and summon; 2nd is AVI and RLD increased by 10%, and 3x stacking buff of 4% AVI but lose 130 health launching airstrike when above 40%; 3rd is 10s barrage with special ignite that reduces (artillery attribute (FP?)) by 5%

[viscid swift]

should be FP yeah

[obsidian ivy]

What is the fleet tech

[viscid swift]

well there are multiple things that could be called "fleet tech"

[eternal moth]

Handkerchief is an HP item that when equipped by "a specfic character", gives a 2% HP shield to random vanguard that lasts 20s

[soft raft]

are you asking in regards to Taihou META or are you talking about something else?

[obsidian ivy]

Yea taihou meta

[viscid swift]

same as usual Taiho probably

[soft raft]

So far all METAs share the same fleet tech as their regular counterparts

[plain saffron]

2800 points

[soft raft]

in which case is +2 CV HP and +1 AVI

[eternal moth]

Only 2800? That's a small event then right? I thought most URs are 3200

[obsidian ivy]

Not the worst I guess

[plain saffron]

2800 is standard UR event

[viscid swift]

no that's pretty normal

[eternal moth]

ok

[stark quiver]

oh w8 what tech is this meta

[viscid swift]

+1 AVI at 120

[stark quiver]

another one on the wait list

[viscid swift]

so probably 2 SRs, 2 elites, and a UR

[plain saffron]

The specific character is memphis og

[soft raft]

When was the last time we had a UR Event go past or below 2800?

[eternal moth]

Double UR dream in shambles

[soft raft]

nah Guam event was also 2800
Matriyum too

[plain saffron]

2nd UR doesn't count

[viscid swift]

well it doesn't discount double UR, shop URs never contribute to chat frames

[eternal moth]

Huh. I thought they did, ok

I still don't expect it, but we'll see what happens.

[signal fog]

maintenance in 3 hours ?

[forest palm]

more or less

[signal fog]

i think it's intermission for next UR banner ?

[soft raft]

CTA for it yes

[ivory pawn]

Pre-event, kinda. Call to Arms, some new mission-based event, new META showdown, and the Research thingy.

[mellow cape]

Where do I see the limit for fleet tech?

[soft raft]

limit?
Like max fleet tech?

[stark quiver]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/
?

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Total_Stat_Bonuses

[forest palm]

the limit is having every ship Lv 120 in the game

[novel solstice]

Every ship that isn't (chibi/muse/collab), anyway.

[viscid swift]

working on it

[forest palm]

I'm like over 50% I think

[novel solstice]

I'm over 80%. I suspect some of the people who have been around since the start are at 100%; I'm held back by lack of cog chips, but there are certainly people more hard-core than I am about getting every possible chip.

[forest palm]

I certainly have kept track numbers wise

[stark quiver]

mfw under 10%

[forest palm]

but I've almost ran out of essential tech

[stark quiver]

i have resorted to grinding sub tech

[little tree]

Are tiger cats worth crafting if you have +10 hellcats

[forest palm]

Tigercats are useful ya

[soft raft]

they're a straight up upgrade to Hellcats so I dont see why not
Plus you get a full plate refund when you upgrade gear in gear lab

[little tree]

I'm out of top secrets for pancakes good to know

[little tree]

Do they intercept ?

[soft raft]

All fighters besides rocket fighters intercept

[little tree]

How do u get the ur aa gun ? Research ?

[ivory pawn]

Gear Lab.

Bit of a lower priority tho cause ofc it costs electronics like all the other good stuff.

[novel solstice]

It's under Iris in the gear lab.

[little tree]

Thata why I couldn't find it iris

Won't i need 1 or 2 for w15 ?

[novel solstice]

They're a good idea for w15, but not absolutely required. They're not that huge of an improvement over the alternatives.

[sweet delta]

1 year anniversary of this message @cobalt rapids

[little tree]

Got it so the golden aa guns are just fine then

[viscid swift]

at max you only need 7 anyway

[little tree]

7

[sweet delta]

You don't use akashi?

[little tree]

Akashi ?

I'm slightly lost here

[wind hazel]

[little tree]

The meme ship ?

[wind hazel]

he's joking

[novel solstice]

In W15? I'd hope not.
Akashi is functional as an AA platform, but there are several ships that are better at AA and can do actual damage, and in W15 you need to kill enemy ships in addition to the swarms of aircraft.

[little tree]

Sushi the troll

[viscid swift]

well, there's a certain niche of people who use Akashi a lot

[novel solstice]

I used scamcat enough to get her to 120, then told her to go back to running the shop...

[viscid swift]

I plan on using her in 12-1 farming one all of my main fleets are done

[novel solstice]

I do 12-1 farming with random ships that need XP. You don't need to farm it with an already maxed ship, you can just rotate through anyone high enough level (I tend to put in backliners at lvl 100, vanguards at 105 or 110, and just rotate in someone new whenever someone hits 120).

[little tree]

Cheeky what's aa guns do I need to farm from w14

[viscid swift]

you mean for W14?

[little tree]

Yes

14 4 14 3

Typo on phone

[viscid swift]

you don't farm anything but New Orelans from W14

[little tree]

????

Oh my phone hold on

I ment what AA guns do I need to get for the rest of w14 and 15

[viscid swift]

When you do for as long as I have you do start to run out of main fleets to level

[viscid swift]

Sextuples, Roombas, and Twin 90s will suffice

[little tree]

~~ ftp 800 dock space is insane ~~

[novel solstice]

Yeah, I'm currently leveling Anniversary Kizuna, Iori Minase, and Akane Shinji in my mob fleet, becuase my dock looks similar for main fleet.

[little tree]

Do i + 13 them as well ?

[viscid swift]

if you have the spare plates sure

[little tree]

Thank you!

[stark quiver]

is max dock 2 or 3 thousand

[viscid swift]

3030

[stark quiver]

thx

[forest palm]

only like 60k gems

[crisp estuary]

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

actually is it 67K gems to go from 150 to 3k

[stark quiver]

so much money

[forest palm]

I mean yes, but also no

[stone sluice]

You mean 57k?

[forest palm]

after 2k price goes up

[eternal moth]

Hmm. Stuck at 6-4 since I need to be cmdr level 50 for 7-1, and I'm only 42. Continue doing 6-4 for Poi, or do SP5 in Polaris...

[viscid swift]

sp5

[eternal moth]

Polaris is probably the right call until I run out of keys

[sweet delta]

Cheeky with fewer mains left than me, boomer confirmed

[viscid swift]

well I'm also missing like a dozen because of 3 collabs

[stone sluice]

How much is it?

[sweet delta]

Smae

[forest palm]

300

[elfin hollow]

Taihou meta is a healer, lmao

[hollow sail]

[viscid swift]

she literally isn't

[slate blade]

Reverse healer maybe?

[eternal moth]

She hurts herself to do more damage

[zenith heron]

Maso - Taihou, weird

[eternal moth]

What?

She literally has an ability that causes her to do 130 damage to herself every 10 seconds to stack a buff up to 3x

[zenith heron]

Don't mind me, also doesn't Muse does that? Unless its not Taihou Meta guesses

[gusty olive]

What's better?

Put Georgia guns on my UR BB fleet and remove Helena?

Or keep the standard AP guns and keep Helena there?

[eternal moth]

For what?

[gusty olive]

OpSi fleet

[eternal moth]

Keep Helena, give champy guns

That's better whether you give everyone radars or not

[zenith heron]

If Ply was in said fleet, is she enough for Tank? Bcs probably need a Vanguard Damage dealer

[gusty olive]

Cause I'm planning to build back my META back line fleet but I'll keep the current CV set up cus the arbiter seems to be resistant to shelling at low hp

[eternal moth]

It depends on the fight and, if fighting Harby, what the mods are. She can usually tank, but not always.

[gusty olive]

I might have 3 NJ guns just in case I need it for Light Armor bosses lol

[eternal moth]

Datamine is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vvQzpei97K21nujtFlDyrLoNVzndcChAL3GWLG_IN5Q/edit?gid=1899470306#gid=1899470306 I did a translate on her abilities earlier

[gusty olive]

I already have 2

[zenith heron]

Just what I need, Thanks

[eternal moth]

Ability 2: At the start of a battle, the player's aviation and reload attributes are increased by 10.0%; when the player's air support is loaded during a battle, if the player's remaining durability is higher than 40%, 130 points of durability will be deducted and the player's aviation will be increased by an additional 4.0% (up to 3 layers).

[hollow gust]

Just use CVs

[eager mulch]

[gusty olive]

Sometimes I wish OpSi have more fleets...

but the bosses are harder as a result lmaooo

[hollow gust]

You can oneshot every single boss in the game, one meta fleet , and the rest are whatever you want

[gusty olive]

If only I can one shot Harbiters 😭

[rose cosmos]

That return to beyond thing is a rerun or side story?

[wind hazel]

side story

[zenith heron]

I think Abyssals have different weaknesses despite the armor type, but its probably negligible than the suggested vs Light CV Fleet, bcs a BF 109G is strong enough if you don't have a HVarcat nor the Hvar dive bomber against Harbiters

(I know Abyssals are different, just curious if their defenses are the same as Arbiters)

[eternal moth]

Supposedly the weaknesses don't actually work

[blissful hamlet]

Is datamine up now

[slate blade]

Yes

[vale spindle]

tls should be done too

[blissful hamlet]

New equip sucks

[rare wyvern]

Amagi's buff to IJN submarine torps is not better than a wolf pack right ?

[soft raft]

IJN subs are basically a complete joke even with that buff

[clever lance]

How good is nagato meta

[stark quiver]

higher end SR BB

[clever lance]

She isn’t on the tier list 😦

[stark quiver]

what tier list
ectl? that hasnt been updated

[rare wyvern]

Does the Kunai damage reduction augment for subs work on bosses ?

[soft raft]

Thats because haven't updated ECTL list in months

[clever lance]

Is there an updated tierlist?

[dreamy blade]

Yes but kunai is still bad

[soft raft]

Prob the CN one but their criteria and way of doing things Is fairly different than ECTL

[dreamy blade]

there is sushi's tier list but it is specifically for endgame (w15, meta, ex, arbiter, etc)

[clever lance]

Should I prioritize upgrading nagato meta based on who I have?

[dreamy blade]

I wouldn't tbh

Your Current bbs are fine until you can get another UR

[soft raft]

Are you even able to get Nagato META MLB in the first place

If not, then bench her

[dreamy blade]

the big benefit of using meta ships is not needing bulins to mlb them but yeah if you can't then rip

[clever lance]

Ummm my next question was going to be how do meta chars work and stuff cause I haven’t used a single one yet

[dreamy blade]

save your coins for finishing musashi and fdg

[wind hazel]

they are like any other shipgirl, only difference is how to enhance and mlb them

[dreamy blade]

they just use separate mats for enhancing which you get from meta showdown and a bit from opsi, and you level their skills through using them and some other missions

[slate blade]

And lvling their skills is pain in da ass if you don't use dem in batlles

[fossil hull]

is nagato meta gonna be gone after the maintenance

[wind hazel]

yes

[clever lance]

Are there any meta ships that are worth targeting to get?

[dreamy blade]

not really

honestly nagato is one of the better ones

[wind hazel]

a number of them give good ship tech, which is not a concern for new or mid game players

[clever lance]

Any advice on who to upgrade next or try to get? Or round out my fleet

[dreamy blade]

tbh I found it more useful to do each meta fight twice before going to 5k to unlock them, just for the coins you get from sync points

[wind hazel]

start working on shipyard ships

especially the PR4 ships

[clever lance]

I’m close to unlocking plymouth

[wind hazel]

well unlocking is one thing, having their blueprints is another

[dreamy blade]

at that point you might want to start a thread and post your entire dock for context

[wind hazel]

no need tbh, i can tell from screenshot above

[clever lance]

Is there any trick to getting blueprints? I’m having a hard time with agir 🤦🏻‍♂️

[wind hazel]

change this to PR/DR4 if you want agir. but idk what's the recommended path now, might be just better to continue doing season 5 and wait for update next month

[clever lance]

Yeah I have that on 4. I try to do agir tasks when they pop up. But I haven’t gotten 400 agir tasks yet lol

[wind hazel]

same recommendation, work on PR4, start coining everyone you haven't coined to FS5

[clever lance]

Why PR4 first?

[dreamy blade]

it has the best ships, theyre all very good (except marco polo)

and also the best gear overall

[clever lance]

Ic

Any order I should go in?

[dreamy blade]

usually anchorage first but agir first works too, since you have amagi cv probably avp before haku

[wind hazel]

anchorage>avp>the rest

[hollow gust]

/research make sure you pick the correct researches , pr4 should take at most 3 months

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[wind hazel]

the sooner you finish coining them, the faster you'll be able to finish agir

try to get at least 10bp daily

[hollow gust]

Avp fate sim is a lot more influential then anchor who only needs dev30

[wind hazel]

that's also true

i value anchorage higher because i value pushing campaign more

[clever lance]

What’s the diff between dev 30 and fate sim?

[dreamy blade]

100% slow rate at fs5

[plain saffron]

1(2 for DR) skill upgrade
+15(25) luck

[clever lance]

Fate sim is just a few more upgrades after dev30 right?

[dreamy blade]

yeah it's another 200ish bps needed after dev30

[plain saffron]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[clever lance]

Holy bejesus

[stark quiver]

so this maint brings us just a cta and a new meta boss right?
nothing else?

[clever lance]

What do you mean by coining? Aren’t pr4 BP only?

[dreamy blade]

the DR ships cant be coined but the PR ships from pr4 can

so you can coin ancho and avp but not haku and agir

[clever lance]

Oh

Should ancho and avp prints be converted to agir and haku?

[wind hazel]

no
you can't anyway

[rare wyvern]

Technically, at a brilliant rate of 12 for 1 with protocore... (PS: don't)

[clever lance]

Oh

So based on the research chart, I should focus purely on H and D ones to max out the ships?

[vale spindle]

yes but H costs cubes and you should use cubes on limited event gacha instead of research

[clever lance]

So what should I do if I can only do D… and I already used a refresh lol

[vale spindle]

do D

[dreamy blade]

usually wait until reset for another refresh

but since maintenance yeah just take the D

[vale spindle]

there is no reset today cause maintenance lol

[sinful escarp]

is albion a good cv for support fleet?

[vale spindle]

for w15 yes

do /w15 in #bot-spam for a full list

[clever lance]

So I’m trying to coin two ships but also save gold for research. Any tips on maximizing gold?

[jaunty vault]

13-4 grind

[atomic abyss]

cant do that? 12-4

[clever lance]

Ummm right now I’m grinding lvl 100 ish vanguard ships to unlock Plymouth lol

[dreamy blade]

if youre really strapped for coins it's ok to take some Q (rigging analysis) researches here and there

[atomic abyss]

lvl 100-ish means 12-4

[clever lance]

I’ll try that. I barely unlocked 13-1

Crap just died to maint. -_-

[eternal basalt]

First time maintenance without ship announcement???

[slow fox]

This will be the first event that releases three CB

I'm so excited

[shell willow]

taihou? or what ship

[atomic abyss]

taihou meta is in patch notes

they just didnt do the ship announcement tweet on JP/EN

[soft raft]

Tho she didn't get a dedicated announcement tweet most likely due to CN yelling at them

[atomic abyss]

for reasons you can probably scroll #game-feedback for

[shell willow]

yeah i saw people disliking her art and it getting changed as well

[blissful hamlet]

Taihou meta any good?

[eternal basalt]

Is CN done yet?

[spring bolt]

yes

[grizzled sundial]

Taihou meta skill look a bit similar to muse version of her , i kinda paranoid of losing HP each time it activate , is the trade-off good ?

[atomic abyss]

we wont know for sure until we can test her

which wont be for a long ass time

[grizzled sundial]

I mean , the muse version .

[atomic abyss]

🚮

[icy cave]

Does maint end in 6 hours?

Is there an optimal way of pulling to save cubes

Like do 3 pulls daily until last day

[atomic abyss]

well, yes that would be optimal

[bold cove]

May i ask what are the other?

[atomic abyss]

well, there isnt any other new ship, see #game-news

algerie meta added to dossier is the only other notable ship addition

this week is essentially event prelude

for what's most likely the next UR event

[bold cove]

Ah okay, so the UR might be next one, maybe including Christmas event

[atomic abyss]

we dont exactly have "christmas" events lol

[eternal basalt]

1 on light for this week

[worn quest]

what should i be expecting after the maintenance is over? im new

[bold cove]

Interesting, this is my first game with no "christmas" event

[icy cave]

I do 1 on light everyday

[atomic abyss]

nothing, since you wont have operation siren yet
just continue on your way

[calm panther]

We typically get like a skin that’s xmas themed I think

[crimson glacier]

since when

[atomic abyss]

well, not for free

but who knows

[eternal basalt]

We've gotten free x-mas no?

5 https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Event

[atomic abyss]

yeah we have
it has been a while tho

[spring bolt]

devs are chinese, sometimes they just forgot that christmas is a thing

[eternal basalt]

2023 last

[atomic abyss]

yeah and then 2022 had none outside marble's rerun

it's 50-50

well JP remembers xmas for obvious reasons
but thats about it

[eternal basalt]

They remember x-mas since that is their Black Friday event

[sweet delta]

the side arrows just whiffing if the boss is at the wrong distance

[shell willow]

[spring bolt]

looks like we will have a lot of enemy planes in taihou meta fight

[eternal basalt]

Sandy tex

[atomic abyss]

Shimanto would likely be preferred for an AA carry

Since she actually has strong torps to counter heavy

Also gets the amagi buff

[spring bolt]

according to datamine, taihou meta summons
6 fighters with 331 hp, speed 33, cd 1s
6 db with 339 hp, speed 30, cd 1s
6 tb with 335 hp, speed 30, cd 2s
from 66s to 30s (top right timer, but in video it's actually 62s to 26s)
and last 2 mobs summons 60 speed plane with 305 hp, cd 0.8s

[quartz jungle]

Wait 30 planes every 2s?

Rip any chance of carrier concealment lol

[shell willow]

whats her eva and hp

[grizzled sundial]

Her plane gonna block the sun , do Sandy is a hard requirement now ?

[spring bolt]

1.6m hp, 75 eva, 50 luck

[grizzled sundial]

And this is just plane right ? There must be other type of attack like other meta fight

[quartz jungle]

Err how much AA damage does Guam-Sandy-Shimanto with +13 UR gun do?

[crimson glacier]

billions

[spring bolt]

taihou meta summons 3 waves of mob
first wave 4xca, med armor, 28k hp each at 64s
second wave 2xbb, heavy armor, 32k hp each at 46s
third wave 2xcv, med armor, 30k hp each at 27s
all mobs have 0 eva 0 luck

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1AXqhYbEAX
skill showcase video

[cobalt rapids]

oh nice

[quartz jungle]

Hmm I see only 10 planes/2 secs

[spring bolt]

either datamine is wrong or that's tier 1 boss so weaker boss skill

[atomic abyss]

most likely the latter

[crimson glacier]

or both

[cobalt rapids]

do you know their prios vs taihou?

[spring bolt]

taihou 90, mob 15

[atomic abyss]

hmm, maybe parallel TBs might be better here

or well, DBs even

[spring bolt]

regular anti heavy cv setups usually include tenrai so i guess that's not a big issue

[bold stream]

Hello all. I am kinda new?

Currently trying 12-4, I failed twice to defeat the boss because all my vanguards are died.

[atomic abyss]

i mean yeah, why are you using 2 BBs on boss?

[bold stream]

My fleet 2 is my boss fleet...

[atomic abyss]

and mob too by the looks of it

[bold stream]

I tried with sara too, but my vanguard dies...

[atomic abyss]

not enough carriers, not enough ACV, you take more damage from planes and you die

[frank pulsar]

lack of levels probably, could also be gear but levels are pretty big issue

[atomic abyss]

also using non MLB rainbows

[bold stream]

So run 2 carries on mob fleet too?

[atomic abyss]

how far are you from dev 30 fdg

[bold stream]

My mob fleets really has no problem they clear all even without ammo except boss

[frank pulsar]

cv is king for w12 and w13

[sweet delta]

queen

[bold stream]

22 rn..

[frank pulsar]

drop fdg then

[atomic abyss]

drop fdg and uvh

actually on second thought

stop pushing to 12-4 for now
sit in 12-1 and start levelling the correct ships

[bold stream]

I can do this...

Which ships are correct tho...

[atomic abyss]

im sure you could clear 12-4 with the ships you have but i see little gain when you have insufficient carriers levelled
and 12-1 is a better place to grind exp anyways

firstly, ignore UvH entirely
FdG is fine to level

level up san diego, saratoga, enterprise

[bold stream]

I got like independence too.. just bought her

[atomic abyss]

as for other carriers, we'd need to see what carriers you have

indep too once you can retro her yes

you invested too heavily into BBs

[bold stream]

Carries hate me.. all my carries are hard earned and bought except formidable...

[atomic abyss]

more like because all the recent event builds have been heavy

[bold stream]

Yea, that too. Is the next event a CV/CVL?

[atomic abyss]

no way to know

[bold stream]

Thank you ender

[eternal basalt]

We'll know monday

[frank pulsar]

i doubt it considering iron blood doesnt have many cvs

[atomic abyss]

subs

[eternal basalt]

It's all paper so who knows

[sharp socket]

arent paper ships just the pr/drs

[eternal basalt]

Too

[quartz jungle]

No all the P/O class are as well

Those Plan Z ships were not ever laid down, so paper design only

[rose cosmos]

I feel like cv is more of a Japan/euro thing

[quartz jungle]

Otto as well (1937J)

[quartz jungle]

RN/EU>Japan>>Iron blood

[rose cosmos]

Russia is also top cv? I don't remember any aside from the cat girl

[eternal basalt]

Almost like the countries surrounded by water used them more than those surrounded by land

[crimson glacier]

thats loser mentality

[fallow sedge]

Can anchor atleast do dmg

[atomic abyss]

well certainly more than tanks like eugen
but less than the other CB tanks
she is in no way a DPS

[bold cove]

I heard that Illu needed for w15?

[atomic abyss]

not "needed"

one of the best choice for w15 support fleets tho

[bold cove]

Support fleet is the new term for w15? Never know it

[zenith heron]

Man, then that's a hustle

[atomic abyss]

support fleet is an additional 3rd fleet that only has 3 backline slots
support fleet can only send out fighters in battle to help out with AA
nothing more

as such, carriers with more fighters are preferred

illustrious has 6

[crisp tree]

Will UR be revealed next weekly maint or next next?

[gilded carbon]

What is a decent line up for it, then? The Essex-classes have decent fighter-slots

[shell willow]

on the stream on monday

[atomic abyss]

carriers like all 3 illustrious variants, indomitable, implacable, nakhimov, langley kai
have 6 fighters

[crisp tree]

Alrighty

[atomic abyss]

essexes only have 3, they're not the best for this
and you'd use yk2 on the actual fleets

[sharp socket]

illustrious, illustrious u, other 2 fighter slot cv or whatever

[rapid grail]

indepkai has 4 fighters with only 1 fighter slot
centaur, theseus (?) have 4 fighters but 2 fighter slots

[atomic abyss]

theseus and albion as well yes

at that point, better to even use chen hai retro who has 5 fighters

[gilded carbon]

I thought the Dragon Empire-carriers had worse fighters?

[atomic abyss]

5x 150% fighters isnt bad at all lol

indomitable by comparison

[gilded carbon]

No, the fighters themselfes. Not the slots

[atomic abyss]

chen hai with her retro can use regular fighters

she doesnt need to use seaplanes anymore

[gilded carbon]

Oh. Well then

[atomic abyss]

hwah jah has no retro tho yes

[eternal basalt]

From worst CV ever to actual support 0_0

[gilded carbon]

Well. In this case

[faint cloud]

iirc chen hai surpassed yk2 in support fleet

[atomic abyss]

I mean ultimately, why wouldnt you use yk2 in your actual 2 fleets instead

[whole crypt]

Yorktown II isn't that high up the list for 15 support

and off the top of my head Chen Hai is better than Langley even with 1 fighter less

[eternal basalt]

Both Langley's have 1 slot with 3 fighters? Why ever use her

[whole crypt]

Langley retrofit has 2x3

[eternal basalt]

Damn you wiki formatting

[atomic abyss]

Cos of the fighter eff?
And Avi gap I assume

[faint cloud]

Cuz i don't have

[gilded carbon]

Langley Retro, Not Langley 2, right? ^^`

[frank pulsar]

yes langley retro

[whole crypt]

also rld

[atomic abyss]

I mean rather than use her in the support fleet

[atomic abyss]

Yep
Langley 2 is an Essex class
Only 3 fighters

[gilded carbon]

Good to know, thank you

[whole crypt]

Langley II should be an Independence class

case in point for rld

[plain saffron]

https://streamable.com/foy137

[elfin hollow]

WTF! How?

[atomic abyss]

Don't ask

[frank pulsar]

magik

[late flame]

ngl for a moment i thought taihou meta had uvh skin

[whole crypt]

what's Taihou's AA

[plain saffron]

https://streamable.com/czcp3z

[frank pulsar]

i just realised theyre doing like no damage

[whole crypt]

it's more of a fight showcase, not oneshot

[atomic abyss]

Wait, what ever are her skills anyways

[boreal wagon]

346 according to datamine

[atomic abyss]

...that's fairly high ain't it?

[plain saffron]

why is datamine not pinned

[atomic abyss]

But is it high enough to discourage the use of CVs against heavy armour?

[whole crypt]

that's the whole point I asked, it's enough to tip in BB favour over convTB

[atomic abyss]

See the issue is that there are mooks

And while their aiming prio is lower

I do think it might be enough to skew the damage away from BBs

...might this be the time for 2 BB 1 CV strat?

[whole crypt]

I'm lazy just wait for homework to copy
don't have access to funny CN servers to test before the week is over anyway

@atomic abyss #gameplay-help message

[late flame]

sounds like another pain in the behind boss

[whole crypt]

[inland shoal]

I mean it's lower than all other META CVs

[whole crypt]

well just CV in general I expect enough AA to affect CV-BB balance for oneshotting, besides any gimmick based bias

[inland shoal]

I guess, but it's only about 30 AA more than Mugget

[soft dagger]

i think its more of a cv concealment matter than dmgred because of aa stat

[whole crypt]

[inland shoal]

CV concealment issues were ironically biggest with Helmet iirc

And Maihoe's planes are very squishy though she spams a lot of them

[soft dagger]

ye. i meant like in the discussion of taihou aa turn out to be in favor for bb fleet

[vapid grotto]

How long does maintenance last?

[plain saffron]

1h left

[gusty olive]

The fuck is that reload lol

[vapid grotto]

Is it a update or something or is it a once a week thing?

[gusty olive]

Is that Georgia Gun at full potential?

[atomic abyss]

maintenance

[plain saffron]

uvh using geogun yes

[gusty olive]

She keeps fucking spamming shells

[plain saffron]

new stuff, this patch is taihou META + event prelude

[vapid grotto]

Event? So can i start building ships then? Or not yet

[plain saffron]

they don't do once per 6 weeks update like genshin wuwa etc, they do like once per 1 or 2 week depending on how many content

[atomic abyss]

event PRELUDE, i.e before an event

[plain saffron]

no banner yet, banner next week

save your cubes and continue do 1 light daily

[vapid grotto]

So i can start building ships On the 19th?

[plain saffron]

around that yeah

[vapid grotto]

Lol the day after ny bday

[plain saffron]

unless they do weird things and do on not thursday

bday luck

[vapid grotto]

Oh btw do they do a lot of collabs? I just started playing on the last day of to love ru event

[atomic abyss]

once a year

not gonna see another one for a long time

[vapid grotto]

Damn

Do they come back?

[atomic abyss]

most of the time, no

[vapid grotto]

Damn

[eternal basalt]

Occassionally they do 2 a year, but it's rare

[eternal basalt]

They have already announced event starts the 19th

[opaque gate]

tf mt still not yet done

[eternal basalt]

24m

[tame jungle]

yeah it's not scheduled to end for like another 25 min

[coarse heron]

My friend's having problems binding an account. It's binding the little enterprise account instead of sandy.

[atomic abyss]

[coarse heron]

It might just us being dumb

[crimson glacier]

😐

[atomic abyss]

You can have multiple accounts on different servers

As long as it's on the same yostar account

It doesn't matter

[coarse heron]

It binds all the servers?

[crimson glacier]

like i said

[atomic abyss]

As it always has

[coarse heron]

Double check

[plain saffron]

you can always have 1 account per server on 1 yostar/twitter/fb account

[eternal basalt]

Select Sandy in server select. Lil enty is default since new

[late flame]

game is up

[coarse heron]

It's not up for me

[plain saffron]

try again

[eternal basalt]

Game is up

[fervent niche]

how to check what armor type a boss is? also what armor type is taihou meta

[plain saffron]

For opsi bosses you can disable fleet lock and go in to see
Other than opsi, is the enemy is shipgirl, usually it's same as playable counterpart
If not see hulltype, like dd usually light armor etc

[crimson glacier]

taihou should be heavy

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses

Check here if you can't find in game over the above advice

Taihou meta is heavy

[fervent niche]

that's a good tool thank you

[strange sphinx]

hmmm so someone is cooking for Taihou META?

[atomic abyss]

not yet

[little flame]

What the hell is this I only know my Twitter account

Do I still need to register??

[atomic abyss]

you are now forced to bind

[little flame]

Oh man..okay fine

[novel solstice]

It wants you to create a new account (hence register on the button, not login), They're migrating off of reliance on other companies login systems.

[atomic abyss]

#game-news message

[little flame]

Okay

[atomic abyss]

i mean cos twitter is

a bit stupid

AL JP removed twitter binds entirely

too expensive

[strange sphinx]

[whole crypt]

it's probably not just a cost concern if EN is still keeping it

[plain saffron]

didn't EN also remove it

[whole crypt]

but just don't expect devs to keep it indefinitely

[plain saffron]

but like, they just leave it not working instead of removing it...

[atomic abyss]

nnt, it is EXTREMELY expensive

lol

[whole crypt]

EN still has twitter bind doesn't it? at least up till this patch

[boreal wagon]

you can still log in with twitter but yostar accounts dont have it so theyll probably get rid of it after some migration period

[plain saffron]

so that's just limited time issue

[whole crypt]

if it was only costs they should have gotten rid of it from EN as well long ago

[boreal wagon]

twitter used to be free and even longer so for businesses

[novel solstice]

Twitter is also becoming increasingly political and toxic as a brand. Especially so for Chinese companies.

[boreal wagon]

they probably only recently got fed up with all that is going on and wanted to test the waters in the other regions first

especially since EN didnt have a proper account system before

[plain saffron]

they have enough money to pay and it's been like only a year or something

[atomic abyss]

nagami

all i can say is dont assume

[whole crypt]

guess they decided to invest in proper account for EN last

[plain saffron]

AL the only game not using it yet

[atomic abyss]

things are not that simple

[plain saffron]

idk so i can only assume

[boreal wagon]

twitter is stupidly expensive