gameplay-help

[eternal moth]

Well poop, I wasn't able to 1-fleet SP5 at my current level. Probably need to get Port to 70 and LB3 before trying it again, at a minimum

[junior walrus]

Yeah I'm waiting till after the UR event unless i hit a substantial roadblock

figured i'll be pulling between 200-300 cubes so could make a difference in what i work on for 2nd comp

[viscid swift]

unlikely truth be told

[eternal moth]

The only thing that might make a difference is how good the event ships are aside from the UR

You've got a pretty solid lineup at the moment, so I doubt anything's going to really change

[junior walrus]

You’re probably right lol, but still with unicorn/Portland retrofit and I’m super close to laffey and Helena being retro’d as well I’m not having issues yet. Worst case I keep stock piling resources and make a B team in a Day or two.

[eager mulch]

skill issue

[eternal moth]

Probably

[dusky cloak]

does anybody know about how much total gold it costs to fully coin up a pr ship?

[viscid swift]

the bigger issue would be if you're able to meet the hard mode requirements

[viscid swift]

depends on bow many blueprints you buy a day

[junior walrus]

Yeah I built out a character specifically for torpedos the other day to help with that. It was for hard mode 7

[eager mulch]

i can fully coin a ship for free

[junior walrus]

I’ve been focusing OpSi and the last event so my campaign progression slowed a lot, I’m just now finishing stage 9 normal

[viscid swift]

yeah here's tip to see if you're really prepped for that, try and do hard mode of Tower of Transedence in the war archives

[storm heron]

[dusky cloak]

and at what level do the pr ships become usable, or are they only good when maxed?

[eternal moth]

Almost all of them need dev30, wiht a few exceptions

[storm heron]

assuming usable means usable in hard content, some pr ships isn't even usable when they maxxed

[eternal moth]

Agir at ~dev 15 or 20, Ancho at 25, Ply at 15 in certain circumstances

Any main fleet will need to be maxed out

[dusky cloak]

I got izumo so I guess I will be waiting till she 30 😭

[eternal moth]

Missing planes/main gun mounts really hurt your back line ships

[eager mulch]

[storm heron]

the close power to max would be cv to d25, tank to 25. BB needs dev30 for the last mgm

[sharp socket]

whats special about tower of transcendence war archives

[junior walrus]

what is this Dev stuff y'all are talking about?

[storm heron]

nothing other than the fact that it gives magdeburg

[eternal moth]

Development levels for PR ships

[storm heron]

yes dev level

[junior walrus]

where is Dev level at? Why do i feel like i've seen that but don't know what it is

[eternal moth]

Shipyard

[junior walrus]

ahhh yes that thing that wants 10 of my precious cubes

This is insanely bad value for an early account right?

[sharp socket]

to get the ship built not really

roon would be better for tech points to get fdg

but it wont kill you to build saint louis first

[junior walrus]

Yeah i started it before i knew what it really was and it's just a lot of blue prints i could use for my team and possible 2nd team

[storm heron]

looks like you did the EXP collection

[sharp socket]

just don't use your blueprints on PRs not in season and youd be fine

like a series 7 blueprint on pr1 is waste

[junior walrus]

Oh those blueprints? I haven't even really touched them tbh.

you're referring to the ones to craft different units right?

[dreamy blade]

what is the difference between the EX and SP stages in war archives?

[eternal moth]

SP are single-map I believe. EX are major events

[viscid swift]

Ex uses the ABCD map arrangement

SP uses a format similar to most SP events albeit the number of maps differes

[junior walrus]

Which aux should I replace on Howe for type1 AP shell?

[viscid swift]

Spooky scary specter

[junior walrus]

Also at what point do I care about augments? I’ve been ignoring them

[viscid swift]

for the early game, when you use a ship whose unique augment makes a meaningful difference to their performance

[dreamy blade]

(not your starter) for example if you use hood or saratoga their augment is very nice

it does take a lot of coins tho since you have to level it to 10 to unlock the skill bonus

[barren tapir]

sandy, hood, sara are examples of very impactful augment for a good ship

you definitely want to be selective with it however since coin, aug core, and aug exp arent exactly plentiful early on

or even later tbh

[junior walrus]

so I have a san diego, but haven't messed with her because i was told she's kinda dog water without retrofit. Would that be worth investing in once i get my other characters retro'd on my main team?

Also saw the rainbow version of this weapon is really good on TRP units, but how does the gold compare?

[viscid swift]

the rainbow is only good if you manual

same with that

[junior walrus]

ideally i manual as little as humanly possible

[barren tapir]

use magnetic torps then

[junior walrus]

so true King

[rare wyvern]

Would Aquila replace Volga for a w15 mob fleet (Uni/Musashi/Volga backline) ? It feels like a pure upgrade heal wise, and still AA with a double fighter, or Volga's DPS is better ?

[storm heron]

yes, double fighter aquila better

[rare wyvern]

That means yet another Flapjack to make

[whole crypt]

just use another fighter

like even hellcats are fair game if you're out of 2x1000s

[storm heron]

[sweet delta]

San Diego augmented but without retrofit is probably already better than laffey retrofit augmented

[junior walrus]

I don't know enough to disagree or agree. I was just told to avoid using her early since she needs extra things to be good, but if I'm going to start working a second team would she be worth using?

[mellow cape]

Do you have enough resources to make her Aug +10?

[junior walrus]

I have no units with augments so i couldn't tell you tbh. I've been avoiding them since I was told they were a gold dump.

[mellow cape]

They're pretty good if used right but can become costly if you max random augs willy nilly

Go test if you can max one. Press her Aug tab and see if you can craft one/max one

[junior walrus]

I've spent a few dollars on passes etc so i've got some of the material

[ivory pawn]

It'll cost 10k coins, 15 of the large augment stones, and a bunch of augment exp.

If you've been doing the daily augment event, you should probably have enough. Maybe tomorrow at worst.

[junior walrus]

This is my aug material

[ivory pawn]

You got enough of those then, just a question if you have the coins to spare.

[junior walrus]

I have 10k coins to make it, but I have MLB her first. I haven’t really touched San Diego at all. Was just focusing starter units for the missions tbh.

[storm heron]

21k*

[junior walrus]

I’ll probably do some farming for the event and rack some coins up. I’m really curious what this event is going to be so kinda want to save for that.

[viscid swift]

you actually need 21k coins

[junior walrus]

I have 13k coins atm

I could get another 10k tonight ez I have a ton of oil

[storm heron]

typ smh

[viscid swift]

it costs 10k to craft it and 11k to enhance it to +10

[junior walrus]

But again I need to limit break her also. All together it’d be like 30-40k coins. I’ll pass for now.

[viscid swift]

you'd best save for the event, 95% chance it is a UR event

[ivory pawn]

Ah, I think I was remembering Lala's augment enhance cost.

[storm heron]

what's the 5%, SSR event?

[viscid swift]

huh

pretty much

[vestal glen]

im wondering, can we actually compose T3 retrofits?

[storm heron]

[vestal glen]

so how do we farm

[storm heron]

farm hard world 3 and abov

[ivory pawn]

Can 3* hard stages for some guaranteed drops, but once that dries up it's up to RNG. Keep an eye on the guild shop too, sometimes it'll show up there for a reasonable price.

[tawny ermine]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[soft raft]

#bot-spam for personal use of commands fyi

[tawny ermine]

sorry didnt know

is fdg worth getting? like i know shes really good but would she be better then enterprise for me

and is she a boss or is she mob? also this is my cv and ar forgot to send last message

[viscid swift]

uhh you know she's a BB right

[tawny ermine]

ohh yeah she is lmao

my bad i got her mixed up with avp

[sharp socket]

fdg is very good to get

[viscid swift]

and just from that yes, she is worth getting because if that's the state of your CVs i doubt your BBs much better

[tawny ermine]

heres my BBs

also is she boss or mob? fdg

[eager mulch]

she can do either

[viscid swift]

she's better than pretty much all of your BBs on both

[tawny ermine]

really? damn

[sharp socket]

being a rainbow has its benefits

when compared to other UR BBs shes more mob but since you only have NJ she can do either well

[tawny ermine]

im not sure if i should work towards plymouth still or get fdg

[sharp socket]

fdg first

cause she is coinable, while ply is not

[keen sable]

they don't conflict

[tawny ermine]

ahh ok

[sharp socket]

only 2.5 months to coin fdg to fs5

[tawny ermine]

i know its just i still need a really good vanguard cause my best for damage is sandy

[sharp socket]

even shorter if you use her catchup

[keen sable]

they really don't conflict...

[sharp socket]

in terms of priority build fdg and then coin her, do pr4/pr5 for bps

[soft raft]

You'll be able to get FdG to D30 faster than Ply by virtue of FdG being coinable

[tawny ermine]

alright fdg is it

[keen sable]

if you don't play enough it doesn't even matter which one you pick. and if you do then finishing both in 12 days is easy

[tawny ermine]

you think i should use her for boss fleet and just swapout nj?

[keen sable]

fdg won't be usable for months...

[tawny ermine]

true

[keen sable]

unless you're holding bp for some reason

[tawny ermine]

i can get about 100 bp for her but again she needs like 500

[sharp socket]

no dont

[tawny ermine]

yeah i wasnt

[sharp socket]

just coin her it takes 2 months

[tawny ermine]

ok

[sharp socket]

its not that long and by the time you get her out youd be happy you did it cause shes great for w14

[keen sable]

along with your spiffy new georgia gun to go on her

[sharp socket]

speaking of which third georgia gun or third tenrai

[silk jolt]

Guys

[eager mulch]

[silk jolt]

My Mushasi gear is fine?

[eager mulch]

aux gun is sus, idk what that first aux is, all else seems fine

missing a star though so it’s kinda bad

very bad actually

[silk jolt]

Yeah Im a hundred short of that prototype thing

I'm trying to grind so i can complete my weeklies

[hollow gust]

If you don't have another shell then those auxes work

[silk jolt]

I think i evolve that from the Nagato gun i have

[hollow gust]

[eager mulch]

?

i said I didn’t know what it is not that it was bad

[wind hazel]

the very bad is referring to the not MLB.....

gph truly can't read sometimes 🥹

[hollow gust]

Musashi is fine too, literally better then 80% of the SR BB roster

[sharp socket]

funky shell, change to white shell when you can

[silk jolt]

I have enough core to buy the other Gold shell if the spooky isn't good enough

[wind hazel]

you want white

buy this one

and not this

[hollow gust]

Just put the aux on another BB too

[vestal glen]

is it worth to use this on musashi btw? in fact any event items?

[hollow gust]

It's for newer players that can't afford shells

[silk jolt]

Now just need that hundred proto thingy to MLB Musashi

[mellow cape]

[hollow gust]

No

[little tree]

doesnt Musahsi want a 155 kai?

[wind hazel]

plygun ideally

[forest palm]

the end goal for Aux Guns on CL Slot BBs ends up being the Quad 152

[wind hazel]

no stick to the 410kai

you won't be changing it unless you're bossing

[stark quiver]

She needs a sakura empire gun

[rare wyvern]

Is the damage inflicted by leaking planes/botes proportional to their remaining HP ?

[silk jolt]

It is Sakura Gun, i just evolve it from the Nagato gun i use

[sharp socket]

457 is not sakura gun

[silk jolt]

This is my Nagato Gun, Mushashi's gun a bit better

[opaque karma]

is there any ships on the dossier worth doing? i only got ark hiryu helena renown

[viscid swift]

only for tech really

[stark quiver]

The backline give good tech

[silk jolt]

I only have 2 of that and that will remain on my Tamaki and Alsace

[opaque karma]

do they still take up doc space

[viscid swift]

no

[sharp socket]

meta doesn't

[ebon storm]

will mog gun ever come back

[viscid swift]

when its event reruns yes

[ebon storm]

ah in that case ill just get kai

is it a waste getting kai?

[viscid swift]

not really

you can only have at max one Mogador gun right now after all

[storm heron]

how's bro's twin 410mm slower than my champagne

+17 rld is truly significant

[wind hazel]

is your champagne equipped on a ship?

[stark quiver]

hows bros non mlb sashi slower than ur champaign

[storm heron]

oh was that unequipped

[wind hazel]

[storm heron]

depot view and ship view diff I see

[hollow gust]

Rld and oath makes a difference

[stark quiver]

does houshous first gen carrier skill apply to herself

[viscid swift]

yes

[opaque karma]

is there any vanguard buffers that sync with the georgia guns odd 17 or so seconds of reload

[stark quiver]

helena might be able to sync with first shot with sg radar

[hollow gust]

plymouth

[storm heron]

agir slow

[forest palm]

sweet summer child, no one uses Agir slow

[tawny ermine]

is this any good? i read it and it seems really useless since its only for 6 seconds and i dont see any reason to put it on anyone

[hollow gust]

its dogwater

[storm heron]

it is a must have for nelson retrofit

[tawny ermine]

thought so

well lucky im not doing that

[hollow gust]

nelson doesnt want it, thats for sure

unless you are desperate and have no shells

[storm heron]

ehh really? help barrage proc right

[hollow gust]

oh fuck, yeah it procs her shield thingy skill

[sweet delta]

Trade the white shell's 25% main gun DMG for near guaranteed first salvo barrage

[tawny ermine]

well im not gonna use it

[sweet delta]

Kinda not worth it if she's going to be hit by planes anyways , but in like single boss with infrequent plane/shelling then she needs it

[tawny ermine]

well i was lvling up nelson just to mlb her so i can get tech points for plymouth later

[hollow gust]

nelson is prob still an improvement for those fleets, after NJ, your other BBs are monarch and gasconge

[tawny ermine]

yeah but thats resources i can use for other stuff my team works fine so ill leave it how it is for a while untill i get someone better

would mlb shinano be better then enti? cause i know enti has her chance to do double damage but i feel shinano being rainbow and with a airstrike and buffs i feel like she would be better right?

[hollow gust]

just use both of them

[tawny ermine]

plus enti is only a chance to do double damage, given its 70% its not garenteed

ive got sara for my other cv tho

[hollow gust]

put sara in mob

[tawny ermine]

but sara does more damage then enti when im doing challenge mode she is like doubling if not trippling enti damage

[hollow gust]

well that shouldnt happen

[viscid swift]

many potential reasons for that

[tawny ermine]

i can do a challenge mode rn and show you the stats if you want?

[viscid swift]

gears, levels, skill levels, etc

but no, Saratoga should not be doing better than Enterprise assuming both are properly kitted out

[stark quiver]

are they both fully maxed out?
and did enty die earlier?

[tawny ermine]

no i did a run last night where i got to about 15 bars left and sara dominated enti

[storm heron]

you know that so many factors arre calculated in to determine damage right?

[tawny ermine]

ill do a challenge run now and show you the stats when they both die

[viscid swift]

no need

[tawny ermine]

why?

[viscid swift]

just show what gear they're running, their levels, etc

[hollow gust]

its prob cause hes missing all his torps, saratoga db could be hitting better

[viscid swift]

because if I really wanted to I could pull off something similar,
I believe what you're saying is true, which indicates not that Enterprise is better but that you're doing something wrong

[storm heron]

interesting

[viscid swift]

Saratoga is running all +10 planes, Enterprise only has+8s and she's higher level to boot

[hollow gust]

hes missing his torps

[viscid swift]

and yeah your torps missing won't help either

[tawny ermine]

yeah but the +2 on the planes should not be trippling her damage

so i should swap torp bomber?

what to if thats the case

[viscid swift]

here's a tip for the future, you cannot accurately compare the performance of 2 ships until they're maxed, i.e. at least 120, 100 affinity, all skills +10, and ccomparable gear

[storm heron]

enty scales better with gears

[tawny ermine]

:0 wow really, also you kinda can when there both using even gear and at same lvl just wont be as accurate

[viscid swift]

there would no point, because that's frankly the easy part and the bare minimum really for optimization

[atomic abyss]

Also stats don't grow the same way across levels

[tawny ermine]

as i said they wont be as accurate

[atomic abyss]

Some may get slightly more of a certain stat than others

[viscid swift]

but anyway, at least +10 her gear

[atomic abyss]

In any case, it's not like Sara's damage is bad, but there are circumstances working against enty in particular here

[tawny ermine]

so i shouldnt swap torp bomber?

[viscid swift]

it wouldn't make a difference either way

if you swapped it for a parallel TB you'd be sacking damage potential

[tawny ermine]

so just +10 then

[viscid swift]

and get more level on them both, as well 100 affinity on them

[tawny ermine]

im trying

ok so this time enti actually did more then 200k damage

[hollow gust]

they should be near same with enterprise slightly edging out

[storm heron]

sus, what did you do from before and after

[tawny ermine]

yeah but 100k more damage is a lot

all i did was upgrade her gear +2 more lvls thats all

[viscid swift]

don't underestimate the importance of the little stuff

[storm heron]

did you just book enty?

[tawny ermine]

my only guess is i got hella unlucky with torp hits not hitting and/or got unlucky with double damage chance

cause 70% chance is not garenteed so it very much could of just been unlucky chance

my subs are putting in work tho

i havent done anything with subs i dont find the need in them yet since im still only on 12-4

[viscid swift]

for long battles like CMs the rng averages out

[tawny ermine]

yeah but as i said 70% chance doesnt mean garanted so the chances of only hitting a couple double damage can still happen

[forest palm]

non-MLBs, and one of them is plain bad no point in using them at that point la

[tawny ermine]

just like how some games eva doesnt work in my favor and my backline dies from the nukes cause i still dont have it 100% synced yet

[tawny ermine]

its the same fuel without them isnt it?

really its less?

[viscid swift]

subs cost extra fuel if you call them into battle

[tawny ermine]

ohh well im taking them out then

[viscid swift]

and anyway not sure what this is supposed to mean

[tawny ermine]

it was a continuation of my other message

[viscid swift]

I know that it's a continuation, still not sure what you're trying it say exactly in context

[tawny ermine]

for long battles the rng averages out

[storm heron]

if the rng keeps happening yes

[tawny ermine]

i was saying that its very much possible to get bad rng the whole battle and that eva can also be bad

[viscid swift]

well you're not supposed to rely on RNG to tank Warspite's snipes, that'll just get your main fleet killed before you kill her

[tawny ermine]

i know

[viscid swift]

and yes you can get unlucky for the whole battle but that is by definition unlikely

[tawny ermine]

yeah but im assuming it happened to me when sara did double if not triple her damage one game

[viscid swift]

did you actually see when each of them died

[tawny ermine]

yeah sara died first actually and then enti but it was very soon after

[viscid swift]

and how long did the battle last

[tawny ermine]

about 7 minutes she had about 15/20 bares hp left cant remember exactly

[sharp socket]

what're we cooking this time, damage data collection?

[tawny ermine]

just low hp and about 7 minute battle

[tawny ermine]

ohh just me saying i probably had terrable rng in 1 battle so i thought enti wasnt as good as she really is

[forest palm]

ya...I don't think you get to have that opinion

[tawny ermine]

what does that supposed to mean

[forest palm]

just from looking over that damage chart it's clear you're using subpar gear, and the composition is off, and I doubt you're even syncing with Helena proper

[tawny ermine]

first of all, im new im allowed to have opinions alright, second i dont know how to sync properly so no i wasnt syncing with helena properlym third of corse i have subpar gear IM NEW

[viscid swift]

okay here's a little comparrison

bearing in mind my Enterprise is 125ed and 100 affinity so the difference for you right now is gonna be even greater, not only are your airstrikes doing less damage but in a long fight like that you're getting less of them off

[sharp socket]

so basically you're not in a position to do data collection properly, thus you shouldn't make assumptions about x being better than y with your limited ability to test stuff

[storm heron]

should've screenshotted the part where sataroga do triple the damage of entryprice

[viscid swift]

it shows among other things, why gear matters and why you don't compare ships in incomplete states

[tawny ermine]

again im allowed to have opinions they may not be correct and i know that but im allowed to have them

[storm heron]

if only

[wind hazel]

you're allowed to have wrong opinion 👍🏼

[storm heron]

yes, w15 is easy

[tawny ermine]

yeah i know that there gonna be wrong 99% of the time but people saying im not allowed to have opinions or im not allowed to do anything is stupid

[viscid swift]

it was easy, for me

[viscid swift]

you're allowed to have your own opinions even if they're wrong, it's how you react to when we correct and explain why they're wrong that matters

[wind hazel]

i dont think anyone is saying you cannot have opinion. people are just pointing you out where you're wrong

[sharp socket]

you're allowed to get things wrong but not to spread your wrong info saying its right info on purpose

[tawny ermine]

brother i agree with your opinions and just tell you my opinions and you guys are always like im wrong i should do this and that and this and that, and i shouldnt have opinions, i agree with your opinions i agree im wrong you guys keep forgetting that

[tawny ermine]

im not saying its right

[sharp socket]

if you feel like your info is correct despite others telling you its wrong then you have to provide effective proof that its right

[tawny ermine]

when have i said its right

[storm heron]

if I only have this energy to actually argue like this against torva

[forest palm]

you just have to not be afraid to throw hands with him, it's fun honestly

[viscid swift]

let me explain it like, this you keep saying it's only my opinion
whether intentional or not that comes off more as you defending your opinions and saying they're right to some degree, you're pushing back when you really don't need to and it feels like you're not actually listening to whatwe're saying at which why did I bother explaining everything in the first place

[tawny ermine]

im not gonna do this with you again

[wind hazel]

and to be fair, opinion is irrelevant. we're talking about numbers here. maths aren't opinion

[viscid swift]

indeed

[storm heron]

is gear focus a scam? ^

[sharp socket]

yes, it takes me 4 months for 1 plygun

[eager mulch]

[storm heron]

the people who have 2 la-9 by now what prio do you take?

spill da beans

[sharp socket]

i started pr5 mid august and its almost mid december and im at 45/50 plygun

[stark quiver]

its jus the typical gear focus researches

[eager mulch]

its called skill

[viscid swift]

probably something like what I said earlier

[stark quiver]

something like this

[sharp socket]

g4h conspiracy

[storm heron]

I'm like Q-UL > D-UL > Q4h > Q2h > Q1h > G1.5h > G4h > E2h > G2.5h > rest

[viscid swift]

hardly

[little tree]

its 203 203 158 for opsi that stats cap on right

[storm heron]

203 203 156

[little tree]

thank u doggo

[eager mulch]

off by 2 💢

[sharp socket]

my luck is so shit that i dont have the choice of taking ship focus or gear focus, and just take whatever's good which doesnt even happen all the time

[storm heron]

legit I also thought that each account has a luck property or something

[sweet delta]

Believable

[eager mulch]

Real

[stark quiver]

~~scales off 💳 ~~

[viscid swift]

meh, just keep grinding

[forest palm]

for the Quad 152 in the year that PR5 was available I got 4 from Research, and 1 from Proto Shop

[viscid swift]

strictly speaking that's impossible

Plymouth Gun wasn't added to the shop until after the one year mark of that season's release

[storm heron]

remember we are assuming the same mean in the first place

[forest palm]

4 from research is possible

[sharp socket]

so he got 5 from research?

[viscid swift]

no, just a jab by me at a technicality

[forest palm]

I got 4 from Research in the year that PR5 released

[stark quiver]

is it more efficient to leave one ship uncompleted in a season to up the chance of gear focus stuff

[storm heron]

I don't think that matters

[forest palm]

no, I've done this extensively, and it does not work

[sharp socket]

where do the rates go then

is it just into the remaining ship

[forest palm]

basically it doesn't affect the spawn rate, it only dictates what will spawn

[sweet delta]

Ask the devs, actually don't ask

[shell willow]

probably fixed rate for face research to appear and then its decided later whose face it will be (based on who you have maxed in that season)

[stark quiver]

ima js finish nakh and bay then

[sharp socket]

also while we're on this, is protocore farming by completing everyone but one print on a DR a strategy for someone that wasted all their other protocore sources

[viscid swift]

uhh what

[pale wing]

Guys, how's the build?
(Pls don't mind the name ;-;

[stark quiver]

155 secondary , staag/hazemeyer AA , gold fcr, gold white shell
get mlb

[viscid swift]

but no because the game counts how many prints you have, not how many you've used

so even if you hold just one print, it'll still counted as being dev 30

[forest palm]

game is oddly smart in this regard

[sharp socket]

why do i get ply prints from coin research then after completing her

[sweet delta]

Why not

[viscid swift]

it only knocks a ship's face researches form the pool

their prints can still drop from Gs, Hs, etc

[sharp socket]

ok if you cant do this for a d30 ship, what about an fs5 ship

[viscid swift]

same rules apply

[eternal moth]

There's no real difference in the code as far as I'm aware

[sharp socket]

convert to protocore after getting the print past d30?

[viscid swift]

you could do that but how desperate are you really

[stark quiver]

or you could save for fs

[sharp socket]

so you're saying it works

[viscid swift]

yes, if you do it like that

[sharp socket]

alright ty

[forest palm]

that or you can just build for F5

[eternal moth]

Personally I save for FS5 until they get one, but if you don't want to do so it's up to you.

[forest palm]

It looks nice all things considered

[viscid swift]

I'm not sure actually what happens if you accidentally save to long and get enough for Fs5 but then convert it all

[sharp socket]

i dont see haku getting used after shinano amagicv + slow can work

[viscid swift]

probbaly nothing but

[undone plover]

What do u mean by farming for protocore by leaving unfinished celerio?
Like targeting DR research from D for higher protocore ratio?
U can finish the whole season and stay and farm faces for protocore if u wanted

Leaving one unfinished doesnt change much

[eternal moth]

I use Nanners/Haku/Amagi/Eldridge instead

[sharp socket]

yes but DR is 20 protocore per print while PR is only 5

[viscid swift]

what they mean is like maxing everyone in series 4, leaving Haku for last and converting all prints to prototype cores rather than using her for Fate sim

[uneven cave]

Highest dmg cv fleet is nano/amagi/nakhi right? Assuming kaza + volo

[eternal moth]

Why nerf the damage of a main fleet if I can drop a little bit from vanguard instead?

[forest palm]

the idea is there, I just don't think it's a worthwhile endevor, because after a point you have more Protocores than you know what to do with

[viscid swift]

which works but the more I think about it the more I really don't like it to be honest

[sweet delta]

That would be farming haku faces which is a massive waste considering you havent finished all seasons and pr4 is about to get retired anyways

[undone plover]

Yeah that is what I assumed
Probably a net negative overall tho
U are losing gear research time for protocore that will come anyway later

[viscid swift]

for one, if you're gonna do it with a DR it would have to be for a lower which is already one mark against it
second, if this wasn't your final season you would be pushing back progress on PR overall in form or another

3rd, if it was your final season you're gonna get prototype from any ship prints you get at that point so why bother optimizing it to such a dgree

[opaque gate]

what are some pointers for w14

[stark quiver]

dps, tanky

[viscid swift]

like, I could see it working for 5 doing it with a PR but I'd really want more La-9s over Plymouth guns right now so

[sweet delta]

never pick up flares
get lighthouse quickly
stagger all main fleet damage, they should not be attacking at the same time
14-3 and 14-4 have enemy submarines in reconnaissance nodes

[sharp socket]

meh i was thinking if you didnt get your protocore from the onetime sources if there was a way out to farm protocore

[viscid swift]

you could but ultimately it's one step forwards two steps backwards

[undone plover]

Finish pr6 in 2 months and catchup will give you 7500

[fast steppe]

ik there's only 2 days left but I was just wondering what the best fleet I could make for nagato meta was

[opaque gate]

why notnpick flares

[sweet delta]

I'd rather have a shiny new nakhi than a shiny old hinden gun

[fast steppe]

returning after about 2 years inactive lol

[viscid swift]

Also prototype cores do end up piling up

[sharp socket]

i was thinking that despite all that it might work for the guy i had in mind for this that doesn't have any onetime protocore sources left and doesn't have some of the gear in there

[stark quiver]

stacked ahh account

[viscid swift]

it would depend on what the state of their seasons is

[sweet delta]

Keep cooking, we've already said enough I think

[little tree]

~~ hidenburger needed ~~

[undone plover]

Honestly not like u need all the shiny stuff there
Champy guns tenrai and maybe ply gun is needed
The rest is luxury

[viscid swift]

believe it or not 30k is on the low side for "old" account

[sweet delta]

They make your main fleet ships target the wrong enemies

[sharp socket]

i wont oust him for this dont worry

[viscid swift]

Vanguard, UvH, Ark Royal, Anchorage, Helena, Shimakaze I guess

[fast steppe]

Helena offtank?

[viscid swift]

maybe

[fast steppe]

idk if shimakaze is tanky enough

[viscid swift]

neither do I

[pale wing]

Guys, how's the build?
(Pls don't mind the name ;-;

[stark quiver]

#gameplay-help message

[atomic abyss]

The main gun is fine, the aux are fine at a poverty level
The aux gun and AA gun are the issue

Also the fact she's not mlb

[eternal moth]

That's pretty bad. Needs a 45FP secondary, autoloader and AA gun are both bad, level everything to 10

[wind hazel]

dejavu

[uncut flower]

You'll need to put an SSR IJN Triple 155mm on her.

Otherwise, you may take your time. Since that you'll eventually get more resources and equipment, as the time you'll continue to progress the game.

[storm heron]

wait until 10 minutes later they will ask the same question again for the third time

[clever lance]

Is there a guide for opsi stages we can’t figure out

[eternal moth]

If you mean the puzzle stages, just keep moving and TB will offer to solve them for you

[stark quiver]

for the story, js click around until tb mercy rules you

[clever lance]

No

It’s just one of those were you kill everything b it then you don’t find the missing puzzle piece

And if you leave the stage then it’s gg start over

[storm heron]

Protip, picture tells a million words

[clever lance]

Northwest passage C

[storm heron]

pretty sure opsi puzzles are like 5 year old or something?

[eternal moth]

It's a puzzle stage, so you do exactly what I said

Unless you mean for stars

[worn quest]

i can beat and farm 9-1 now, so what do i focus on now

[viscid swift]

keep pushing the main campaign to chapter 12

[worn quest]

i dont need to farm equipment?

[wind hazel]

not from campaign

mostly via opening tech box, then crafting in gear lab later on, etc

[storm heron]

nowadays we just push newbs to one fleet ch12?

[soft raft]

you dont really farm campaign for gear
esp when all of the gear from there is also avaliable from tech boxes in copies that you can use right then and there

[wind hazel]

highly depends on their account

[soft raft]

not really
just get there asap

whether they can one fleet it or not is entirely dependent on their dock

[rare wyvern]

War Archive + Gear Lab or plans to farm Champy Gun ?

[worn quest]

i just got the main beginner roster? Saratoga pensylvania unicorn helena laffey and portland, i can make it all the way to 12 with just these?

[whole crypt]

you can onefleet to 12 with free starter but it's not the same as doing it with a good sr/ur

[wind hazel]

converting resources into protocore to buy champy prints from shop

[wind hazel]

honestly i can see this fleet struggle at w11

[storm heron]

how is war archive even related to champ gun

[soft raft]

maybe
but I wouldnt push your luck

The main problem with one-fleeting to W12 is when you realize you probably should work on a boss fleet, so better to start working on a 2nd fleet when you can

[worn quest]

so i should start dumping my cubes when the next event banner comes?

[soft raft]

And I'm speaking from experience as someone who got to 12-3 with a single fleet

building a boss fleet from scratch after I hit that wall was not that fun

[soft raft]

Yes
especially since this upcoming event is a Gacha UR one and they are always worth going for

[worn quest]

and generally the tierlist that isnt even up to date is good to rely on to build my 2nd fleet?

cuz i dont want to keep bothering and asking if these ships are good

[soft raft]

ECTL is fine for at most up to W13
After that, fleet building gets more compositional which can fuck with anyone trying to build a general campaign tierlist

[wind hazel]

just ask, this channel is made for this reason

[sharp socket]

just do that every UR banner you hit

[worn quest]

ok thanks

[wind hazel]

bear in mind building your 2nd fleet based on tierlist isn't exactly that good either, it can be hit or miss sometimes

[soft raft]

New Gacha URs come out every Feb/May (CN Anniv)/Sept (JP Anniv)/Dec

And there might be a few UR reruns here and there as well

[worn quest]

can i ask what each role does

like dd, cv, and allat

[sharp socket]

those are hull type

hull type does not specify a role, but the ship's kit and stats do

[worn quest]

oh ok

[final heart]

am I spending the tech points if I develop her or is it just a threshhold thing?

[vale spindle]

threshold

[final heart]

ty ty

[deft wraith]

A

I kinda need help with the Operation Siren idk how to play there.

[sweet delta]

if you only have a few level 120 ships, just put Unicorn and your strongest ships in one fleet, and put the rest in other fleets

[deft wraith]

Ah alright and I'll try

[atomic abyss]

Oh, JP stream announced uwu

[deft wraith]

Should I develop Roon? After saint Louis?

[whole crypt]

ectl by their own definition and guidelines is basically for ch9-13

[whole crypt]

if you can't move on to a newer/better ship sure, Roon good tech for unlocking FdG/AvP/Agir anyway

[deft wraith]

Awh Okay and thank you.

[soft raft]

And is good for Agir's CDC 2 as well

[deft wraith]

Because saint Louis is almost finish

Just need little more xp

[sharp socket]

what is DB 20% avi penalty

[storm heron]

80% avi scaling on bombs, rockets and torps have 100% scaling

[rare wyvern]

That's why DB bad ?

[viscid swift]

Partly why they're not used for single target in flex slots yes

[tawny ermine]

how good is graf zeppelin?

and also takao

[whole crypt]

pretty mediocre

[tawny ermine]

ahh thought so thanks

also laffey? she any good with her augment or still mediocre

[soft raft]

Wouldn't really say her unique Aug is worth it for how easily she gets replaced later on

[tawny ermine]

true

also im looking to clear out my depot since i have 294 out of the 300 items but idk what to delete? should i keep them or delete stuff if i should delete stuff what do i delete

[viscid swift]

Safe to scrap guide is in #bot-spam /equip

[soft raft]

/equip take a look at the 3rd link

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[tawny ermine]

thanks

[viscid swift]

You can also throw gear on ships you're not using

[tawny ermine]

yeah im thinking of doing that

did notice that doesnt take up space

[viscid swift]

You should it saves a ton of space

[tawny ermine]

might as well then

after the deletion process tho

[humble solar]

I wish we can get US DDGs

I want Long Beach

[viscid swift]

#al-general is that way

[humble solar]

Oops wrong channel

[viscid swift]

Long Beach is also a Cruiser not a DD

[pale wing]

I just need one more Bulin Mk3 to MLB her

[pale wing]

Which one tho?
The purple one or gold one?

[atomic abyss]

Gold

[soft raft]

For future reference, it's better to hold off on limit breaking a UR until you have enough to MLB her in one go

Mainly because that way if a new one that's higher priority comes out, you don't get caught with your pants down with a 1-2 LB UR

[soft raft]

Gold
SR is SSR in the Japanese client

[pale wing]

I already MLB'd Enty and Nimi

[viscid swift]

I don't see how the 2 correlate at all

[soft raft]

That's a SR and a Elite
I was talking about in regards to your 2LB Musashi

[eternal basalt]

Both aren't UR

There's a new one (or 2) coming NEXT WEEK.

[sharp socket]

next week does not mean tomorrow right

[viscid swift]

Yes

Stream is on the 16th

[sharp socket]

so its the week after

in 7 days

[viscid swift]

Yes, next week

[atomic abyss]

Stream link if anyone is curious

https://www.youtube.com/live/atR1WfJzBro?si=cjoaE1eMNXsTVyW5

[storm heron]

isn't the stream like next week? why would people be interested

[atomic abyss]

next monday yes

people would be interested to set a reminder for it since it likely concerns the next UR

[obsidian ivy]

When was the last time an event build pool was special type

[atomic abyss]

amagi?

oh wait tempesta

[whole crypt]

because the actual event is very much next Thursday

[obsidian ivy]

I guess I need to wait for wishing well

[whole crypt]

what ship are you after

[atomic abyss]

aquila i'd assume

[obsidian ivy]

Katsuragi, ryuuhou

[atomic abyss]

oh

[whole crypt]

cope for rainbow u-boat, 100% special pool

[obsidian ivy]

Volga isn't in the pool right

[atomic abyss]

she isnt yes

[sweet merlin]

The yostar update is for all yostar games, right?

[atomic abyss]

arknights did theirs last week, but yes

[sweet merlin]

Aether gazer? Heaven burns red?

[atomic abyss]

HBR definitely doesnt have it yet
no clue about aether gazer

[boreal wagon]

ag never used the old system

so its already migrated by default

[icy cave]

So if I made a yostar acc for arknights, I can bind my AL to the same account yes

[atomic abyss]

yes

[sweet merlin]

Yes

[icy cave]

Ok great! I already have one set up for arknights

[fast steppe]

nagato meta has heavy armour right

[atomic abyss]

yes

[fast steppe]

aight thanks

[rare wyvern]

This is too far off for a sync ? I'm trying to make something up for harby

With two full torp CV backlines

This is my other fleet, and the main issue is that I had to put all the planes I owned trying to sync, like I have no other converging TBs, and the JU87 is on AvP because Harby is heavy, so no Bf109

[jaunty vault]

i think when you consider avp RLD boost that fleet won't sync

[rare wyvern]

Is there an existing tool for me to know the timer with the 20% RLD or do I have to dig the wiki and spreadsheet it ?

[jaunty vault]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

personally I'd just manually hold the airstrikes

[vale spindle]

you can also homing beacon the other 2

[rare wyvern]

No more cores to buy it

[vale spindle]

unfortunate

[jaunty vault]

fleet2 should be fine

also avp gets 12% RLD buff

[rare wyvern]

I'm moreso scared because my vanguard often gets ded by hard arbiter

[jaunty vault]

then manual dodging should be even better

well it's fine if you don't wanna manual, completely understand that feeling

[rare wyvern]

Man, manual is how I do progress in that game lol

Airstrike Cooldown: 22.32s
Airstrike First Cooldown: 23.82s

Why does the first strike gets an extra .5s ? Is it for everyone ?

[jaunty vault]

yeah

[boreal wagon]

1.5s but yes

[rare wyvern]

Mind you, with the 12% RLD, the timer gets in very close sync

[boreal wagon]

its due to how the game loads and that causing reloads to be delayed if u rlly wanna know

[rare wyvern]

Guess that just works

[jaunty vault]

if it works, it works, good luck

[rare wyvern]

NOW, for my vanguard, I have one spot I dunno who to put in for off tank, I have Sandy/Mainz/Seattle that I see as able to DPS

All 125 and 100 affinity, just dunno which to pick

[jaunty vault]

sandy works

idk if you have her augment and retrofitted tho

[rare wyvern]

Yes

[strange sphinx]

is there any CVL/CV healer except for Persu, Uni, Aquila and Volga?

[vale spindle]

zuihou
ryuuhou

[jaunty vault]

yes there's quite a few

[rare wyvern]

Is this gonna completely die on this month's harby ?

[strange sphinx]

[jaunty vault]

it should do damage but death is inevitable

[strange sphinx]

goodluck protecting backline

[rare wyvern]

From what ? WHAT DOES THE HERMIT DO ?

I don't recall what it did when I beat normal

[hollow gust]

You know Plymouth survives hermit right? Hes gonna be fine

[rare wyvern]

My Plymouth is so close to perfection, almost dev 29

[strange sphinx]

Haku still FS2

[hollow gust]

Should be more worried about damage output then survivability

[rare wyvern]

I can deploy two other fleets with most of my BB roster for the 70% HP where it can't nullify my salvoes

But I might lack vanguard damage a lot

[hollow gust]

You don't need to care about vanguard damage

[rare wyvern]

Good

Then I'm gonna stack up AP Battleships for the beginning

[hollow gust]

backline buffers like Kazegumo and Sirus will contribute way more then dps units

[rare wyvern]

I need to level up so many things fr, Sirius I'm doing it as of now

[hollow gust]

Kazegumo should be on the wishing well list

[rare wyvern]

Oh I have her and I went to level 95 or something, but then other ships needed to be fed

[hollow gust]

?

[rare wyvern]

I wanted to level up Kazegumo, but then I needed plenty other vanguards as I was focusing on w14, so she still waits

[hollow gust]

Kazegumo is a far higher priority then Sirius , not to mention she is a solid pick for w14

[rare wyvern]

Yeah, you're right. Grinding Drake will be a bit longer, but by that point a levelled up Kazegumo will do more good

[storm heron]

yeah kagazumo good

[hollow gust]

You can do everything before the month ends . Also PRake

[final heart]

should I buy these META units?

[atomic abyss]

eventually
they are all useless for a new or even intermediate player though

[final heart]

oh

[atomic abyss]

they are more for their level 120 fleet tech stat bonus
which is more a late/end game thing to grind

[final heart]

even the new guilio unit is not really strong for starter?

[atomic abyss]

none of the purple meta units are good, to put it bluntly

the biggest issue being their enhancement mats are much harder to come by compared to the usual common ships used as fodder

their skill levelling is a pain too

so they're actually extremely bad for "starters"/newbies
not just bad

[final heart]

oof I accidentally fed a bit of mats for guilio

[atomic abyss]

oh and not to mention that their limit breaks are used by cruise pass progress

which isnt an issue eventually but for the time being, existing purple and blue ships that you are likely to have gotten or can get for free are much better to use

[final heart]

so if I don't have enterprise rn who can I use in giulio's place?

[atomic abyss]

well i would say saratoga but you dont have her either
i'd use nelson unicorn ranger then

penny is fine but nelson is better

[final heart]

ty ty

[stiff oracle]

Is wakatsuki worth to build? I need more torp stats for hard campaign

[crimson glacier]

waka has pretty low torp

[nocturne glade]

around what level should my ships be once I hit ch 9?

[stiff oracle]

These are my other DD besides waka and luffey

[gilded carbon]

Wasnt there a decent combi around the Fletcher-class?

[crimson glacier]

all of them are shit

[storm heron]

yes like 6 or 7 years ago

[crimson glacier]

they were shit at release too

[jaunty vault]

100ish should be fine for w9
more levels is always good

[crimson glacier]

ender did you ever even try them

mahans were just better and cheaper

[atomic abyss]

torva i have level 100 fletchers from back then

[nocturne glade]

gotcha, ty!

[stiff oracle]

Just build waka then?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[storm heron]

yeah just go waka, though you can raise z23 and z1 for tech too

[crimson glacier]

you could get DDG if you dont have any

less torp than waka but just better

[storm heron]

yes or ddgs

[crimson glacier]

chang chun should be on guild shop i believe

[storm heron]

it is basically free, only cost 2000 protos and 1600 core datas

[crimson glacier]

and isnt chinese new year coming relatively soon anyway

[stiff oracle]

Thanks!

[left cedar]

isnt in May ? so its quite a time till there

w8, CNY its Jan/Feb so yeah

mistake with CN Anny, my bad

[crimson glacier]

[storm heron]

[nocturne glade]

if I retire a ship does the memento stay

[willow crag]

If I understand, were getting nagato II?

[tame jungle]

🔮

[boreal wagon]

the only new ship teased so far is a hipper looking character and even with her we dont know what she truly is yet

[tame jungle]

stay tuned™️

[cobalt rapids]

im taking a wild guess here but i think shes a hipper looking character

[tame jungle]

that's pretty wild!

[left cedar]

Impressive skills Sherlock no Neko

[atomic abyss]

just so you know

that deu sticker, while looking tiny on desktop, takes up half the screen on mobile

[sharp socket]

doesnt on mine

[crimson glacier]

its not a sticker

[boreal wagon]

it still grows stupidly large on some phones bc discord is silly

[crimson glacier]

Yeah coz it's not a sticker it's image

[boreal wagon]

i am aware

[left cedar]

i dosnt know, sorry

[storm heron]

[crystal flume]

the only thing i should prioritize from medal shop is gold retrofit right?

[atomic abyss]

no, the priority, assuming you already have the medal shop ships
would be for specialised core, gold bulins, research blue prints

retro BP are low on the prio list actually - way too expensive

[polar lion]

What's with the Yostar acct pre-reg? Didn't we already hab Yostar acct b4?

[atomic abyss]

back then it was just an email

[boreal wagon]

it still is just an email

[inland shoal]

Not your fault discord is a dum dum and zooms images to 1000% on movile

[polar lion]

It's different?

[boreal wagon]

its just merging the games into one system

its different, but essentially works the same way, the game will teach you on the 12th

[crystal flume]

ah good thing i asked haha.. but is there another way to get gold retrofit? i've been farming hard stage for a week but only got 1 so far.. meanwhile san diego need alot

[inland shoal]

It's different in the way that instead of just your AL game data now a yostar account is associated with your email

[atomic abyss]

3*-ing the respective hard mode map

[inland shoal]

And that account should work for all yostar games

[crystal flume]

3 starring give boost rate?

[polar lion]

Hmm

[inland shoal]

No there is a mission to 3* that gives you bps

[atomic abyss]

no, you get 2x T3 gold retrofit BP as a reward for 3*-ing the hard mode map for the first time for w3 hard and upwards

[crystal flume]

... wha

will do it now thank you so much omg

[inner delta]

atm seems it's currently only for AK, which AL is soon to be opened. There's no for HBR and the other game so far

[boreal wagon]

aether gazer uses it

[novel condor]

Bred 🍞

[inner delta]

it's not in yostar account center which it's kinda weird

[inland shoal]

Ye should've added eventually ig

[inner delta]

unless it's only detect currently/previously played game

[boreal wagon]

i think AG only shows up if you use the exact same email as you used for AG

i dont think u can actually bind it to one not made through AG

HBR is just absent

[inland shoal]

HBR is Honkai Bar Rail?

[boreal wagon]

heaven burns red

[atomic abyss]

the only similarity HBR shares with honkai is that they are both yuri fests

[nocturne glade]

Is dock space the best place to spend gems? Unlocked a third dorm slot and going to leave enough to unlock 2nd floor once I finish expanding f1

[atomic abyss]

yes

[gilded carbon]

How many Rocket-Fighters should i keep in Reserve?

[inland shoal]

Yup, I'd spend exactly as you said. 3 dorm slots, 2nd floor, rest into dock

[inland shoal]

Uhh depends? Most you would use at once would be sth like 5 to 6

[wind hazel]

what was this bug?

[inland shoal]

Her dealing more or less dmg "under specific circumstances"

[gilded carbon]

Can build a second one now, but no content im doing rn needs rocket-fighters

[zenith heron]

i hope this isn't anything compared to Hakuryuu

[gilded carbon]

... Do they work well on Illustrious? With her 2 Fighter Slots?

[wind hazel]

well illustrious won't be your pick in most cases...

[gilded carbon]

No, not really. Was just wondering

My Dock has enough other capable CVs

[left cedar]

Lusty lack Offensive skills, so she cant match some like Indomitable ...

but, well, Rocket Fighters works on lusty for they purpose, just dont compare to others with offensive capabilities

[shut scaffold]

I want grind exp to level up fast，any tips for help please？

[crimson glacier]

higher level stage gives more exp

[shut scaffold]

Ok，anyother ways to level up tips？

[left cedar]

not much to do, just grind at higher W u can ...
W14 and W15 gives alot of CMD XP

Op.Si do some XP, but they do less than Campaign, the mostly stable its Strongholds

[shut scaffold]

I heard there some ships can provide more exp，correct？

[left cedar]

its that for CMD or Ships ?

if its for Ships, XP Skills isnt exactly worth it, cuz mostly of time this ships are weak, but if u need to lvl them like for example Houshou, she is RLD tech and gives more XP to CVs, so its worth it lvl her and other CVs

but if u are aiming for example PR Grind, isnt, cuz u will trade 100% of 1 fac ship to bonus of 10% iirc, wut is a huge waste of 90%

and if u are trying to get CMD XP with skills, that isnt possible

[vapid grotto]

I just got fo lvl 30 and unlocked this, what should i do

[wind hazel]

see if you can start developing saint louis or roon

[shut scaffold]

Excuse me CMD stand for what ？

[wind hazel]

but no need to worry about this too much until you've reached at least chapter 9 or so

[vapid grotto]

Oh ok

[wind hazel]

commander

[shut scaffold]

oh

Which stages can grind lot of exp?

[wind hazel]

w12 is good

[forest palm]

[small linden]

Which arbitor is it this month? Is it Strength?

[wind hazel]

hermit

[fossil briar]

How do I initiate a meta showdown? For the homecoming mission

[jaunty vault]

collect 100 meta coordinates

go to meta showdown and start a fight

[fossil briar]

How do I get the meta coordinates?

[jaunty vault]

play operation siren

[atomic abyss]

doing opsi daily missions or well ^

[hollow gust]

You will see it reach 200/200 which is the daily cap. You can click it to start

[fossil briar]

Bruh mine doesn’t even have that

[jaunty vault]

lol

[hollow gust]

Have you cleared story enough

[atomic abyss]

need to do opsi story then, look for red ! nodes

[fossil briar]

😭

How long you reckon that’ll take

[wind hazel]

depends on how many hours you play

[jaunty vault]

could be done in minutes if you skip reading story

[hollow gust]

Pretty sure you unlock like a hour or 2 into the story

[fossil briar]

Aight calm. I never really played it much but I’ve done a bit

Appreciate the help 🙏

[hollow gust]

if you skipped all the dialogue , it's pretty easy to get through. My lil e account did it on the first day of the server

[whole crypt]

depends how good your fleet is

[balmy skiff]

how good are to love ru srs compared to ryza

[wind hazel]

i want to say better, but klaudia is really good

[fossil briar]

Just got and did the quest. Luckily I played enough already 🙏

[left cedar]

Klaudia is my beloved Healer

[storm heron]

goodbye gph, see you in one week

[hollow gust]

She wants her augment too

Although with uni around , Klaudia is pretty redundant for new players

[left cedar]

i use her cuz i dont wanna use lolis or ally ships ...

[final heart]

is Bremerton a good long term ship?
she's close to lv70 and I'm wondering if I should limit break her

[wind hazel]

no not really

you'll raise her eventually but only for her FP tech

[final heart]

so should I save my yellow bullin and use her lv70 just fine, right?

[wind hazel]

use someone else

[final heart]

portland?

[wind hazel]

sure. what's your fleet?

[final heart]

currently this, I just switched nelson and ranger in this afternoon cus someone said they're good

[left cedar]

once u hit end/late game, lvl her to 120 its worth it, cuz FP Tech for CA/CB

[wind hazel]

yeah raise your portland

[left cedar]

yeah, definetly Port

[final heart]

how far should I limit break portland?

[wind hazel]

until max limit break

[final heart]

gotcha

[wind hazel]

you should limit break your unicorn helena etc too

[left cedar]

lv 120, and probally Port will hold the spot till u got Ancho and Agir

[fast steppe]

usable for w13?

[left cedar]

Retro Uni > Nelson > Port > initial DD > Helena

[fast steppe]

or is fleet 1 not tanky enough

[final heart]

ty for the help

[wind hazel]

need a lot of fixing, open a thread, post dock

[fast steppe]

balls

[wind hazel]

ballz indeed

[hushed vine]

Same

[fast steppe]

figuring out fleets for w13 and 14

[quartz nest]

How is roon now with her new augment?

[mild crest]

Who is she and how can I stop her from showing up as my secretary?

[ebon storm]

Is kawakaze worth?

[small linden]

Thank you.

[wind hazel]

click dont show

[ebon storm]

Halp

[wind hazel]

i havent found a reason to use her yet

[mild crest]

Thank you!

[ebon storm]

I was thinking using kawakaze for shinano buff that needs 3 ijn would it be a good idea for that?

[wind hazel]

need more context. what is this for

[keen sable]

No and yes. No one else a a long term ship either.

[elfin hollow]

sorry, I dont understand operation siren. i tried it once a few months back and got annihalated but I cant heal up, I can restart I cant change fleet and Im out of currency am I just stuck? Is there nothing I can do?

[ebon storm]

Just to activate shinano’s passive

[keen sable]

Who is the second?

[ebon storm]

Ill find someone maybe haku when i finish with her

[final heart]

so the meta constantly shifts to newer units?

[keen sable]

No then

[wind hazel]

i mean context as in, what is this fleet for? campaign? opsi?

[ebon storm]

Whom should i use for the passive

[keen sable]

Not really. The meta doesn't shift much at all which is why there's nothing long term for tank spot for beginners

[ebon storm]

Campaign and opsci

[wind hazel]

go to a blue port, you can heal your fleet, or press Order on top right to redeploy for fleets

[keen sable]

Good ship without buff > bad ship for buff

[ebon storm]

Ah so kawakaze is bad ship. Got it

I was hoping her module had changed that 😦

[wind hazel]

do you have kazagumo

[keen sable]

Kawakaze is bad in the context of when you get her you probably have someone better

[ebon storm]

Ye i guess. I got two ddg so no point in using kawa i guess

[keen sable]

Like I wouldn't take kawakaze aug over sandy aug

Or ddg...

[ebon storm]

Who is the best non limited non ur ijn vanguard?

[forest palm]

depends on what you're looking for

[ebon storm]

In general

[forest palm]

Azuma for the sake of a tank, I guess, though there is no real "general"

cause there's several answers to your question

but the answer is heavily predicated on context

[final heart]

ok took my stupid brain a moment to process you meant beginner tanks don't work long terms
still, I can limit break my entire fleet to max along the way and use them until I can get UR ships, right?

[ebon storm]

Ill just build them all in that case thanks

[keen sable]

I think so. One sr won't kill you

Also restarting tank will be pain since you already just restarted at least two ships.

[final heart]

yeah I'm slowing down a bit and getting 3* on all stages first tho

cus I accidentally claimed the oil in the mail so I've been trying to get it down below cap so I can finish my rookie mission (claim oil from dorm)

[rain hearth]

am i supposed to use gems on rings or what?

they are really limited

[elfin hollow]

sorry is this the wring place? I cant find anything here or any other place

[wind hazel]

click formation

[wind hazel]

no, gem for 3rd slot dorm+second floor, the rest into dockspace

wait for free rings on anniversary

[wind hazel]

ah you might not have enough currency to heal

[rain hearth]

they give free rings?

[wind hazel]

at the port, click order, and use fleet deployment. free heal

[elfin hollow]

yes exactly

[wind hazel]

take the chance to rearrange your fleet

[rain hearth]

i am having trouble understanding what kind of thing you did to end up in that situation in the first place

[wind hazel]

well i can suggest what happened

basically unlocked opsi, went in blind, put random fleet, and kaboom

[rain hearth]

i mean your that thing is lvl 1
and your ships are lvl 100

[elfin hollow]

When I tried it they were low that was 4 months ago

[rain hearth]

ah
i see

[elfin hollow]

i just cant progress now and it’s frustrating

[rain hearth]

btw
i am that power level 3
and i just got a sr map coordinate saying abyssal
i am thinking i should prepare a lot before going in?

my main fleet is 13000 and escort is 12000
and i have uni retrofit

[elfin hollow]

Yep 😦

so theres nothing I can do? Not even switch ships or smth I just cant progress?

[rain hearth]

you can just use the commanda near minimap

[rain hearth]

this thing

[elfin hollow]

ohh sorry missed that I will try it thank you

[rain hearth]

guys i need guidance

[wind hazel]

unlikely, save it

[rain hearth]

what kind of power do i need?

[wind hazel]

ideally equal or above the zone you're doing, but also depends on your fleet

[rain hearth]

and does the sticker mean it's a very rare thing?

[wind hazel]

the uh, corrosion level

sticker?

[crimson glacier]

i think he just got a logger

[rain hearth]

is it an emoji then?

[wind hazel]

oh, nevermind that.

[crimson glacier]

you got something like this?

[rain hearth]

btw
i have uni
i hardly ever had to use a heal thanks to that

[rain hearth]

you!
yes
the goldy

i am so jealous

[crimson glacier]

those spawn these

and rare isnt really how i would describe them

[rain hearth]

yh
it did automatically

[rain hearth]

it cost 36000
that was my everything!

[crimson glacier]

you will get a lot more

[rain hearth]

btw what is this thing called
is it a sticker

[wind hazel]

emotes

[rain hearth]

is that different from emojis

[wind hazel]

they are the same

regardless, explore your opsi, raise your adaptive tunings, leave the loggers for later

[rain hearth]

about that
do i buy samples from shop
i didn't buy to save that special currency hoping i can buy gear blueprints

[wind hazel]

it's optional

[faint jacinth]

how long customer service respond? since long ago i accidentally login my email then its made new account and i cant use it anymore for my main acc binding because of it.

[wind hazel]

within 3 days from my experience. fastest was the same afternoon

[hollow gust]

If you get them in the morning , they respond in like an hour

[wind hazel]

Jeff dock

[fast steppe]

what stuff is worth buying in the shops nowadays

core data mostly

[cobalt rapids]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[rain hearth]

is taihou meta bad?
is that the reason for the dislike?

[atomic abyss]

taihou meta isnt even out yet

whatever the stupid reason, it isnt gameplay related

[reef flume]

Cuz she is drawed by Dish

[reef flume]

Gameplay has nothing to do with this

[rain hearth]

i see
i thought some stats might be released

[atomic abyss]

we dont see those till the maint

[eternal basalt]

Tommorrpw

[soft raft]

it's related to her art and yadda yadd the arguments of how ethical re-using a 4 year old fanart is for proper comissioned work
Not to mention it looks alot more like a halloween skin

[eternal basalt]

Not with the rework

[rain hearth]

i was wondering
isn't formidable skill awful for reliance on elite gear

[atomic abyss]

no that isnt why she's bad

[soft raft]

her freeze just fucking sucks

[rain hearth]

is it one of the reasons
and what else

[rain hearth]

oh

[soft raft]

the Elite plane condition is also only if you're gonna be using her on Mob of which there's way too much competition there for Formidable to even stand a chance

[atomic abyss]

the freeze sucks simply put

because of the way her skill works, her OWN converging torps will almost always miss despite the freeze working for other CVs

[rain hearth]

i see
and how is littorio
i am hoping she is good cause i like her

[atomic abyss]

🚮

[rain hearth]

i don't know why but that makes me angry

[atomic abyss]

other SR italian BBs all trump her by a large margin

[soft raft]

She's mainly limited by her gun restriction
It goes away after you get her unique aug, but even then she's still pretty ass compared to the top SR BBs

[rain hearth]

better than Tirpitz or Bismarck at least

[hollow gust]

Littorio is shit

[atomic abyss]

uhhhh i'd say tirp is better lol

og bismarck and litto are about the same level tho yes...

[patent raft]

Which one should i buy? If not, i save up. If yes to buy, which one?

[rain hearth]

hmmm
still gonna use her
so basically the only ship i like that is good is Pittsburgh!?

[atomic abyss]

none of them

[hollow gust]

She isn't

[rain hearth]

should i just list ships i like and then you tell me?

[soft raft]

none of them for pratical purposes
they all give good fleet tech tho

[atomic abyss]

all of them are collection only ships used only for their level 120 fleet tech in late/end game

[patent raft]

Oh ok

I should save up or something...

[atomic abyss]

more like just buy them like a year later when you want to actually raise them

[hollow gust]

Littorio is closer to NCal level of bad , Bismarck is still decent in niche fleets , and Tirp is ~ warspite tetro

Not to mention they have ironblood tech so automatically better

[forest palm]

base NC is bar non the worst w/o UE, and it's even worse cost wise w/ UE

[rain hearth]

i like
foch, foch meta, saint louis, pittsburgh
nagato, littorio, sovetskaya belorussiya

[hollow gust]

Bad even worse good decent decent shit decent

Saint glow up is insane though

[hushed sorrel]

just play what you like. there is nothing wrong with having fun

[rain hearth]

saint louis and Pittsburgh are only decent?
do i need something that literally throws a mountain

[atomic abyss]

saint became good with her latest augment

[plain saffron]

how good

[hollow gust]

Saint is very good , Pittsburg is a basic bitch CA

[hollow gust]

[rain hearth]

she has 2 main gun mounts so automatically good

[soft raft]

more like Saint and Pittsburg are the only ones out of the ones you listed that basically dont get immediately replaced quite fast

[hollow gust]

Yeah but they are CA guns

[plain saffron]

is that good or not

[rain hearth]

which ones are the best

[hollow gust]

Well won't be surprised if Saint is competitive with DDGs in light

[rain hearth]

i mean sure i have nj
but i don't like nj

[rain hearth]

ddg?

[viscid swift]

guided missile destroyer

[rain hearth]

but that's only chinese

[soft raft]

An Shan class retrofits (save for Fu Shun but that might change next month)

[hollow gust]

Problem is frontline dps in most contents are

[viscid swift]

yeah, and they're among the best vanguards for light damage

[rain hearth]

i see
can you say something good about nagato, belorussiya to cheer me up?

[eternal basalt]

Nagato is hot

[viscid swift]

they're both Firepower tech so you'll level them eventually

[rain hearth]

just remembered that i like monarch

and uvh and fdg

[soft raft]

Not too bad, niche if you have more than 3 UR BBs besides Warspite retro, and good respectively

Of course assuming Monarch and FdG are at least D30

[hollow sail]

nagato occasionally has seen use in niche META fleets, but she's not very good most of the time

[rain hearth]

you just called fdg not too bad

[soft raft]

No I was calling Monarch that

Since you listed Monarch then UvH then FdG

[crimson glacier]

nagato is kinda cope on meta fleets now i feel like

with the new URs

[left cedar]

with new DMG stand for UR BBs and CVs, Nagato is useless, cuz even Vang sometimes arent needed cuz low dmg wise

[soft raft]

This is what I mean

[crimson glacier]

that looks confusing

[left cedar]

not to me ...
he ask in sequence, and he answer in sequence

[wind hazel]

[rain hearth]

that makes a lot of sense

[forest palm]

if you have to break down your sentence please reconsider how you respond