gameplay-help

[storm heron]

yes, until you have shells/fcr

is this normal or did I level too much skills for tech fodders

[jaunty vault]

literally skill issue

[storm heron]

good pun

[inland shoal]

More like you upcrafted too many books

[zenith heron]

better leave some that are lower, like unlocking some META ships' skills if useful or if you want

[crimson glacier]

tech fodder has no need for any skills

[storm heron]

that's what they said

[storm heron]

before this event I have like a dozen stable for each, so I thought upcrafting is normal

[crimson glacier]

only craft the books that you dont use

combining them loses you exp

[inland shoal]

Upcrafting isn't sustainable, I think even with just 2 slots if you always run them

[wary hawk]

ive found it pretty sustainable with 2 slots

[crimson glacier]

did you pay attention

[storm heron]

yes

[crimson glacier]

theres difference in sustaining, and starting with infinite books so you dont notice them dropping

[wary hawk]

I think that's fair

[barren tapir]

the fuck am i seeing

[crimson glacier]

stupidity

[barren tapir]

it should be sustainable outside events like the current one

i still have plenty of blue and yellow t3 books and a couple hundred of every t2 and t1 book that go mostly unused

if i upcrafted them all i still wouldnt run out of books since this events almost over

[storm heron]

yea ikr

[crimson glacier]

yeah you wouldnt run out coz like i said, you started with a ton of them

[hollow gust]

Running out of books is wild

[crimson glacier]

this is about sustain not how much you banked them up

[barren tapir]

true, my books are very much in a decline during event

they just pile up outside event so i don't notice

[rain bobcat]

did you just level too many tech fodder skills lol

I have 1k blue and 500 of each in gold still

[barren tapir]

dont you begin doing that eventually just to have skills to level

[rain bobcat]

even if you do there's no way you would run out

[left cedar]

i think the book i got less probally is UR Red Book, and its about 200 of it

[inland shoal]

I'm constantly at about 40 gold red books and that is with careful converting and not leveling red skills when I drop too low

[left cedar]

golds 1k+ purple 2k+ blue 800?

[sharp socket]

i pretty much stopped leveling skills now since i dont use that many ships

[inland shoal]

Of course leveling skills is sustainable if you just don't do it

[storm heron]

if I don't level them to level 8, they might need more levels and more equips to be able to do 12-1

[sharp socket]

all the ships i use or plan to use for hard content for the next 6 months are either all done or not in my dock at the moment

[left cedar]

all ships that have granted stay in my dock are with skills lvled

[sharp socket]

just have nakhi and napoli to farm cdc and then skill up

[left cedar]

some that i will retire soon or later are lvled as well, but they have uses rn, so i wont do it

[sharp socket]

the only ships i plan to skill up in the future are ships that receive upgrades like retro/aug that make them better than what i have, or URs, else i just dont skill anyone

[barren tapir]

im finally out of t3 red books unless i convert

[storm heron]

[agile sparrow]

How to I get more crystal fragments for meta gems?

Iron blood 556 meta is apparently good

[gilded smelt]

Hello my question, is this fan service like blue archive and Nikke, or does this game just have looking at pictures of hot girls

[vapid grotto]

Hi, im kinda new and dont really know how to compose my fleet ,aby advice? Im on stage 2.1. If it matters

[storm heron]

wdym by this, what resource are you talking about?

[barren tapir]

i thought that pictures of hot girls is a type of fanservice

[storm heron]

yes

[storm heron]

idk what you mean by fan service, but #al-general will help you better

[gilded smelt]

Well yeah, but so does google have that

[storm heron]

oh that, you get that from OpSi

[storm heron]

just go to #al-general , talking about stuff right here is out of content

the masters of these stuff are people there

[barren tapir]

opsi voucher shop and weekly missions idk where else

[gilded smelt]

They all ignoring me

[humble solar]

I'm so bored man, idk whether to prioritize opsi or campaign. The campaign is just click and click and click

[barren tapir]

its a stupidly rare resource ngl considering someone couldve missed a ton of cruise metas by now

[storm heron]

damn, welp, I don't know what I should do, ender should we recommend them to talk here

[barren tapir]

if not having fun, take a break

[agile sparrow]

I've never touch Operation Siren 😞

Kinda crazy right

[barren tapir]

im tempted not to touch opsi cos of taihou meta

[zenith heron]

where

[storm heron]

unfortunaately OpSi gives you a lot of gears, a lot of ships, and skill books and cognitive chips and coins and retrofit materials and a lot more stuff

[barren tapir]

idk i dont hate any shipgirl but taihou meta is most definitely not my type and shes scary and im a wimp

[storm heron]

where's taihou meta

[agile sparrow]

Is there a good tutorial on it?

[humble solar]

Taihou meta where

[barren tapir]

next meta showdown

[storm heron]

it's pretty much straightforward there I think, there's not really any downside or resource loss, if you don't know how to do stuff ask here, otherwise instinct will guide you

[uneven cave]

Wait where in opsi do they drop cog chips

[humble solar]

Chang Chun is really bothering me on fleet placement.

[zenith heron]

no kidding, gonna grind it

[storm heron]

dossier

[barren tapir]

https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5108644393259527 also algerie meta dossier which is

[uneven cave]

Oh I was hoping something more farmable

[storm heron]

dossier is farmable

[storm heron]

what the heck is that white stuffs

[barren tapir]

bandages

[elfin hollow]

Censoring fog

[barren tapir]

oh that

[left cedar]

the wut !?

[inland shoal]

Huh Taihoe

[uneven cave]

2 per day? “farmable”

[barren tapir]

well yeah its obviously gonna be censored in CN lol

[wind hazel]

taihoe

[humble solar]

Anyone got Opsi Guide link?

[storm heron]

I mean compared to other stuff, farming them is actually easy

[barren tapir]

avi+1 (meta follow normal tech right?) so skip

im kidding, but fr not interested lol

[left cedar]

and more IJN ... i miss other meta factions ...

[storm heron]

put up a fleet, attack once, and then just auto-attack or smth

[barren tapir]

timegated tho

[inland shoal]

Good tech so skip?

I just hope for interesting mechanics

[storm heron]

gonna be rodney meta mechanics or repulse meta mechanics

also that reminds me, what's magato's mechanics? staying still and hard as a rock?

[humble solar]

Opsi guide please

[barren tapir]

well not as important as hit/rld and i was joking anyway

[barren tapir]

i was unaware of her having mechanics she has phase change stuff but i couldnt tell which was which visually so uh

i dont think the mechanic matters on auto/strong ships anyway

[atomic abyss]

Nagato mechanics are ignorable is the answer

[inland shoal]

She just has the phase change thing but it's nothing you can plan around so it doesn't rly matter

[agile sparrow]

Would it be weird if I told you I was a day 1 player and never touched OpSi and Supply Line commission :/

[barren tapir]

its like only a thing for manual cos 1 phase does DoT if ur in her zones but like on auto you cant do anything about it

[vapid grotto]

Hi im kinda new, any advice on who i should use?

[agile sparrow]

I don't really know what META ships do

[barren tapir]

and i couldnt tell which phase was which and always forgot the timing so um. it didnt help me LOL

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

Refer to this, use golden darkness as your 3rd backliner

[atomic abyss]

Pretty normal for a casual

[storm heron]

ngl compared to like rodney meta which you have to stagger or something, magato's quirk or stand or whatever gimmick is just like a rock of heavy armor that although stay still when first two airstrikes 95% players can't one shot the damage check

[storm heron]

[inland shoal]

Yeah but her dmg isn't rly that scary anyway, I pretty much never die early

[barren tapir]

you have clearly not used portland in poverty gear on auto

[left cedar]

if i did count right
number of faction METAs are
12 IJN
10 HMS
7 USS
4 French
3 SN
3 KMS
and as always
2 RN

poor italians, so hated

[barren tapir]

giulio first?

[storm heron]

how's the aurora-level player experience anyway, it's not like you can't 2 shot

[inland shoal]

No you're wrong they're all META faction

[left cedar]

w8, so 2

[quartz jungle]

No Trento Meta first

[inland shoal]

*Trento

[quartz jungle]

So 2 Italian

[left cedar]

wiki lacking Giulio ... not full fault

[barren tapir]

uhhh to my own fight i do avg 600k now, for support 350-400k? thereabouts but im not optimizing anything tbh

[storm heron]

trieste meta

[quartz jungle]

Yeah mb

[barren tapir]

oh ok so italians have 2

[storm heron]

you forgot something

[gilded smelt]

I don’t wanna use 2 fleets just one is that ok

[inland shoal]

Wait is the META page not automatic?

[storm heron]

poor chinese, no nothing

0 DE meta

[left cedar]

idk ... i'm looking here

[atomic abyss]

Makes your life significantly more difficult past w12

Even in w10 having 1 fleet does make things noticably harder r

[gilded smelt]

Can I worry about it then

Or should I build another one now

[atomic abyss]

You shd start building a second fleet at around w9

Before that no

[gilded smelt]

Thank you

[inland shoal]

Looks like it's maintained manually due to the subfactions
Hmm time to rewrite
What else had subfactions? Tempesta?

[storm heron]

0 tempesta meta too but who cares about them

[left cedar]

collabs

[humble solar]

Is it worth it getting retrofit BBs such as Nelson

[barren tapir]

I DO

[barren tapir]

depends on your current bb options

[humble solar]

So far I only have Hood, Vanguard, Musashi, Monarch, Georgia

[storm heron]

I don't think so, pretty sure you have good ships

[inland shoal]

CN META when?

[barren tapir]

yeah id only retro nelson if you like her, otherwise you have capable bbs already

[humble solar]

What do I need more of, BB or CVs? Because most of the time I see that every fleet only gets like 1 BB

[storm heron]

yes ideally campaign only uses 1 bb per fleet

it's CVs

[inland shoal]

Oh I overlooked the CN msg

[atomic abyss]

CVs, but there's little point in using them if the CVs you have are worse than your BBs

[left cedar]

relax, they will come and probally the strongest as possible

dammit, i keep mixing my native with EN ... some day i will get in trouble cuz of it

[storm heron]

CVs are diverse and have different uses, there are those for single target bossing, there are those for utility and stop, there are healers, there are multi-target campaign CVs, there are those for support fleets
You will only need 3 UR BBs concurrently, but you might need a lot of CV due to the use cases

[rain bobcat]

CVs are also the best in every armor type if you have the URs

[humble solar]

I have plenty of BBs, but not enough CVs I guess

[vagrant panther]

Was there some new gear that boosted Azuma's usability? I vaguely recall it was some new AA or secondary gun

[storm heron]

yes not enough, you lack stopper, bosser for the important part

[storm heron]

I don't think so

[quartz jungle]

Depends entirely on AA stat for medium and light

Also sync requirements as well

In any case not full CV fleet, medium needs Soyuz, light needs Kearsarge

[humble solar]

Btw, if I have enough Gold Steam Catapults, do I put two catapults for each CV?

[quartz jungle]

Yes

Unless you need homing beacon/carrier manjuu to sync

[inland shoal]

Usually yes unless you're doing some specific timing then sometimes one of them is replaced with beacon or avi manjuu

[humble solar]

I have neither of those

[barren tapir]

you can get them from core data but only if you need them

[humble solar]

I never understood how slow CBs can be until I used one now

Even with the beaver squad badge, Kala is so slow

[tawny ermine]

so im trying to do the challenge mode easy but i keep failing

my vanguard is doing barely any damage but idk if thats normal or not

[cobalt rapids]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/december

[sharp socket]

well this month CM is quite hard

[vapid grotto]

This ok?

[tawny ermine]

i have none of those vanguards and only 1 of those mains

[sharp socket]

the guide is for hard CM

[tawny ermine]

ohh ok

[wind hazel]

what else do you have

[sharp socket]

you can apply its principles to easy diff too

[cobalt rapids]

read the strategy part

[wind hazel]

show dock and let us cook you something

[tawny ermine]

this is everything thats not elite and under

[cobalt rapids]

also this

[sharp socket]

yeah i think you might wanna ignore this month's CM

[wind hazel]

yyyyyyyyyyyeah don't think you have enough powerhouses

[tawny ermine]

damn

[barren tapir]

you can definitely do easy, maybe (but probably not) normal

[tawny ermine]

i mean im close i think im like 15ish hp bars off

[wind hazel]

go level up your ships

[tawny ermine]

idk what to do cause im trynna awaken them but i dont think an extra 10 levels will do much

[barren tapir]

i mean you have most of the month left. let's revisit this 2-3 weeks from now. but im certain you can do easy right now.

[tawny ermine]

im working on getting bayard tho so that should help a lot right?

[wind hazel]

no

[barren tapir]

actually maybe not i thought you had more ships at 110

[strange sphinx]

[sharp socket]

bayard is unfortunately not the powerhouse you think she is

[barren tapir]

this did normal in 9:12 manual u can maybe give normal a shot at the end of the month, and easy should be well, easy by then (5min auto for me)

[tawny ermine]

damn

[storm heron]

nah manualing 9 minutes

[tawny ermine]

hate how all the good characters are all event

[barren tapir]

the only reason i had to manual is bc nagato is slow as fuck

[strange sphinx]

Yoh, give me some fleet for This CM

[barren tapir]

+10 autoloader still over 20s rld, she desyncs around 4min in

and nelson dmg is too low so i didnt even bother trying her lol

[tawny ermine]

out of my fleet one who should i awake first? should it be sandy and nj to 125 or should i make them all 115 first

[vapid grotto]

I just started, is this ok? Im on 2.1. For now

[storm heron]

switch your laffey and portland position. Otherwise good

[sharp socket]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/december/

[storm heron]

your breakpoints should be 120, 125 for you is optional imo for now, it's not that much different when you only have 1 since 120 or 125 probably gonna same result

[tawny ermine]

im just gonna get nj and sandy to 125 then work my way across

ahh ok ill get them both to 120 then then work on 125

[quartz jungle]

How are you supposed to not get deleted by Warspite snipe then?

[sharp socket]

if you dont wanna read that and just the fleets

[storm heron]

idk haven't done the challenge

[barren tapir]

by syncing

[storm heron]

definitely haven't heard something about manualing though

[barren tapir]

the problem is if you dont have high dps bb OR high damage torper that can sync you kinda have to manual

or your backline just vaporizes eventually

[strange sphinx]

don't have guam nor Plymouth nor Ulrich nor sovetsky

[barren tapir]

you need an exactly 20 second sync with less than 0.1s leeway difference

[strange sphinx]

[sharp socket]

then read the doc and figure out something

else skip CM

[barren tapir]

my nagato was 20.19 which didnt work the issue of being a new player without reload tech or better ships

as said above that desyncs in about 3.5-4 mins and then you die

avoid cm if new or unwilling to tryhard gear timing and or manual, i did it only to challenge myself

[storm heron]

how do you calculate desync time

[barren tapir]

by trying it out

[quartz jungle]

Err I'll just manual lol, praying to RNG seems like a waste of time

[barren tapir]

3.5-4min in she is only firing first volley when warspite is at 3.5s charge and her barrage arrives too late to kill the charge

warspite does her charge every 20s so you want a bb within 20.05s for perfect sync killing (can be more lenient if you have the dmg to kill faster)

the fastest uses cvs only and a torper like unzen with exactly 20.00 torps (+- 0.05) to kill the charge that way

maybe i couldve tried nana sync but tbh i doubt i have the tech and gear options to make her sync while still doing enough damage

[storm heron]

yeah nana damage curve is different, not even have the same peak

[barren tapir]

nana is very consistent with low burst so yeah

also my vg was like 115 when i did it

maybe end of month ill do some experimenting at 125 and try an auto normal clear

[storm heron]

sure, no pressure

[uneven cave]

How well does a full tlr fleet perform

[real jasper]

What is the loading time of a cv? They have 3 flyer slots right?

[jaunty vault]

depends on the CV, all 3 slots indicate the load time of the CV

[novel solstice]

You go and use a calculator.

It's a weighted average of the reload times of the planes, weighted by how many there are for each slot.

[storm heron]

ch12 level

[uneven cave]

[novel solstice]

So if a theoretical CV had a fighter slot that launches 1 fighter and a tb slot that launches 2 tbs, the timing is 1/3 of the fighter timing plus 2/3 of the tb timing. And then you factor in your reload bonuses and tech and the beacon or whatever, and you stop trying and just use one of the websites with a calculator.

[storm heron]

2 purples aren't helping, switch one of them to unicorn and another to a mob CV and they can probably do stronghold

[real jasper]

Ty very much, I'll look into it

[uneven cave]

Lmao yeah no that ruins the point

[quartz jungle]

Just realised, why for the challenge aren't we trying to sync at least 1 backline to Warspite's 12 sec delayed shot? Like using Akagi Muse or something to specifically not trigger it

[cobalt rapids]

you can

[tawny ermine]

is any of the new characters worth lvling up or they just meh?

[cobalt rapids]

you still need to win the dps races either way
and fast load cvs arent the highest of dmg dealers

they are meh for ppl with rainbow docks

[tawny ermine]

with my dock are any good then?

#gameplay-help message

more i look at my dock the more i realise how weak i am haha

[cobalt rapids]

for your dock they are decent but they dont provide any tech unfortunetly
would raise lala and/or pick 1 from nana/momo and focus on getting fdg instead

[tawny ermine]

alright

fdg is who again

[cobalt rapids]

rainbow bb from season 2

[sinful escarp]

freidrich de grobe

[tawny ermine]

ahh her

i mainly need better vanguards tho

[cobalt rapids]

yes, u should raise sirius eventually aswell

[tawny ermine]

hmm

basically 98% of my characters are bad i just need to go back in time and get event ones

or wait the next year for a rerun

[cobalt rapids]

alot of good ships are in research

[tawny ermine]

yeah but there only good at mlb

[cobalt rapids]

that applies to all ships rly

[tawny ermine]

well yeah

so all the ones i can get from research rn wont be better then any of the ones i have

[sinful escarp]

dont worry about being fast, game is a marathon not a sprint

[cobalt rapids]

well

[tawny ermine]

like barard and shinona that i just got

[cobalt rapids]

the faster you start on it the faster theyll be rdy

[tawny ermine]

yeah thats why im doing bayard rn she will hopefully be good for my vanguard

[noble osprey]

Guys is St Louis strong now with her new augment?

[cobalt rapids]

like for example i dont see any coinable DR in ur dock
so thats a prio for one

[tawny ermine]

coinable dr?

[cobalt rapids]

research ships you can buy blueprints for with coins
DR are the rainbow ones
PR are gold

[tawny ermine]

ahh ok

[cobalt rapids]

fdg being coinable so with just a few coining per day u can mlb her in like 2 months

[tawny ermine]

what aboutbayard?

[storm heron]

wait another 3 years

[cobalt rapids]

shes ok but like u said not helpful without mlb
if the ships arent coinable you need to focus on ships from the season ure actively focusing in research academy since those will be closest to mlb

[tawny ermine]

hmm ok

[quartz jungle]

Is it not possible to straight up outheal Warspite's 20 sec barrage with a Volga+Akagi Muse+Amagi CV comp? With all 2 ships equipping Angel's feather and Volga equipping rudder to increase eHP

[tawny ermine]

well im retro saratoga so that should be good

[weary gust]

You wouldn't kill her in time.

[tawny ermine]

and done

[soft dagger]

maybe read the boss skills first

[cobalt rapids]

she scales her dmg very much the longer you take
at the very least musashi can tank her for 10min with a rudder and flag cover
other ships would fall apart much faster

this only needed 7min but i have run a similar comp for 9:47s last year
adding a healer would broaden ur spite tank options
but you need to make sure the fast cv can break the shield consistently
1 cv with reliance on aimed tbs can desync and fail charge break
and ofc more dmg than akaga pair overall to win the dps race

[left cedar]

Akaga in 2k24 .... unbelievable

[cobalt rapids]

akaga forever

[sinful escarp]

we yearn for the fox mines

[quartz jungle]

Oh that sounds like a better option, I'll just use Musashi to tank the shot instead then, and then equip RPG interface on like Plymouth since we have that

Although I'd probably just use Akagi Muse and Amagi CV since we have that now

and also the fact that I don't have Akaga

[cobalt rapids]

yea musashi needs to be on 20.0Xs sync with rudder + radar
so she always tanks the shots

[sharp echo]

port or helena first retrofit?

[cobalt rapids]

port

[sharp echo]

okie

[quartz nest]

How are roon and saint louis' augments?

[sharp echo]

houshou meta any good?

[left cedar]

a gud improvment into something old and without use
they still hit the limbo cuz are CAs with okaish dmg but far from being a thing, and far from being something near tanks

[cobalt rapids]

sain loui got a large dmg bonus on light and med
roon got a smaller dmg bonus but enough to put her up to par with the newer event gold cas

at the very least now sanrui matches ply on light and lower but still good on med

[warm phoenix]

do you use fighters or dive bombers in Amagi CV's first slot?

[cobalt rapids]

depends on content

[warm phoenix]

I'm guessing you prefer fighters in AA heavy worlds?

[cobalt rapids]

flap for w15
tenrai for campaign below and heavy boss
la-9 for medium boss
hvar for light boss
or other options depending on ur sync needs

[uneven cave]

Is la-9 also the best fighter against heavy bosses?

[cobalt rapids]

best fighter yes bar syncing

[warm phoenix]

thanks

[strange sphinx]

should I Craft another wyvern? I can again

[wind hazel]

having 2-3 wyverns is nice

[real jasper]

We have no healer that can heal main fleet right? The boss kill my backline in 5 minutes, is there anything I can do to survive that?

[soft raft]

we do have a few (Namely Unicorn retro, Volga, and Aquila), but you arent supposed to be using a healer in boss fleet basically 99% of the time

[real jasper]

Oh ty, but how can we survive the boss then?

[soft raft]

as for what you can do, depends on what specific boss and what options you have, post your dock in a thread for better help

[real jasper]

The 10 min boss we are fighting, I dont remember the name, I'm new to the game. Hmm maybe Warspire or something like that

[viscid swift]

we do have such ships but they're not gonna help you with this month's CM

you're gonna have to consistently disrupt her attack

[soft raft]

Also I doubt a new player would have the ships neccessary much less at the proper levels to properly attempt challenge mode fights

[viscid swift]

start by reading her skills and go from there

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[fallow sedge]

Roon with Augment vs roon muse

[whole crypt]

aug Roon hands down

[quartz jungle]

Use Musashi rudder + negate boss charge attack is easiest solution

[spring topaz]

Just hit FS5 on FdG ... SHould I start working on Azuma or Drake to atleast have a ship spend free coins on

[eager mulch]

fs6?

[whole crypt]

man just added a whole new power tier to the game

[uneven cave]

fs6 = augment

[whole crypt]

either or, but I'd prioritize working a ship that's actually going to be useful than those 2 just to use the free/discount prints

[spring topaz]

you can't coin other options, right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[crisp tree]

Does the level effect how much ship exp I get? like if I farm 3-4 instead of completing 9-4 will there be a massive EXP difference? Doing a Shipyard combat mission rn

[viscid swift]

yes

[crisp tree]

Oh, is the difference massive?

[viscid swift]

not least of which because 9-4 has an oil cap and 3-4 doesn't

[crisp tree]

Time to start doing campaign again I guess

[obsidian ivy]

Any Houston II farmers? What kind of fleet are you using

[hollow gust]

Just copy the first fleet in the w15 command

[obsidian ivy]

The lv125 overflow

[hollow gust]

You are fighting w15 , ur ass isn't saving the exp

[obsidian ivy]

[hollow gust]

I doubt you are even going to be autoing with any fleet

[soft raft]

currently, Agir, Haku, and all of PR5-7 cannot be coined yes

[obsidian ivy]

Suuuurely I can auto on safe

[lyric forge]

can i even get these from war archives lol

[hollow sail]

check the respective wiki pages for the drop stages

[undone plover]

I got wasp 100% from WA back in the day
And the other two should be in winter’s crown according to wiki

[lyric forge]

okay nice
i've been grinding c3 for wasp with no luck so far so i started wondering

[novel solstice]

While you can get them from war archives, it's probably easier to wait a bit and buy them with core data. None of them are amazing ships, so there's not much reason to rush for them.

[hollow sail]

shouldn't take too long to get two rares and an elite

[little plinth]

assuming I have all ships from war archives, what should I default to farming on it?

[hollow sail]

i'd say it's worth saving the literal 3200 core data

which is more than you get in a month iirc

[lyric forge]

i wouldn't call these a good investment of core data if you can get them for free so nah

[hollow sail]

you're agreeing with me

[lyric forge]

oh yeah my bad i read it wrongly

[soft raft]

at that point you basically dont farm it
heck I wouldnt even farm it after you're done with Divergent Chessboard

[elfin hollow]

What should I do with a second copy of New Jersey

[hollow sail]

use it to limit break the first if it's not yet limit broken, or scrap it for medals

or alternatively use it as skin placeholder if you want to have 2 NJ secretaries simultaneously

[novel solstice]

Limit break the first one.

If the first one is at max limit break, you either scrap the dupe or you use it for having two NJ secretaries. Or just for the flex of having two of them.

[eternal moth]

Taihou Meta should be heavy armor right?

[forest palm]

should

[humble iris]

How to change fleets in opsi

[forest palm]

any blue port, hit order should be the button at the top left of the compass

[agile lodge]

hi im struggling defeating escort fleet in hard 1-2 like ive done it many times but it wont give me the 3 stars any advices ?

[eternal moth]

Turn off clearing mode.

[soft raft]

Clearing mode in Hard Mode only spawns the boss

[agile lodge]

oh thanks didnt know that

[eternal moth]

It's a pretty common question, so don't worry about not figuring it out.

[elfin hollow]

do we get anything from 3*’ing hard mode stages?

[humble iris]

Who should I mlb nj or shima

[wind hazel]

check your mission tab for the list

[rain hearth]

what do those stats at the right mean or do

and what do i buy from shop

[wind hazel]

i'd hold off from limit breaking either if you're using UR bulin. there's an upcoming UR event, save and wait til then

[humble iris]

What's the ur event about?

[wind hazel]

we dont know yet, 99% a new UR ship

[humble iris]

A new UR??

but then why save my bulins for the new UR

[rain hearth]

anyone?

[humble iris]

I feel like Id be better spending it off on my nearly mlb URs

[wind hazel]

short version, opsi has different power level zone. now you have power level 2, so doing higher zone than 2 will put you in disadvantage

read https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Combat for more details

[humble iris]

So in the end, should I still go for the new ur or just get the mlb over with

[wind hazel]

because the new UR might be more powerful than NJ and Shimakaze

which is very likely

[humble iris]

and I'm not sure if my team needs replacements, nj or shima on my team would help tons

[wind hazel]

new UR might help more than them

and tbh shimakaze isn't that useful lol

[humble iris]

Isn't she top of the tier alongside other ur

[wind hazel]

there are a lot of alternatives, cheaper version of her

[humble iris]

Like?

[wind hazel]

UR bulin is a very scarce resources, investing in shimakaze is basically taking away the resource for better UR ship

like Ibuki from PR1

[elfin hollow]

shimakaze fell off

[rain hearth]

thank you

[humble iris]

That's sad

[elfin hollow]

is your mogador mlb

[wind hazel]

[gilded smelt]

I just started playing and I don’t really know what I’m doing, it feels like I already hit a wall and there’s no way for me to continue

[stark quiver]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
did u perhaps read this

if you havent pushed up to chapter 12 do that

[viscid swift]

Unzen is the direct upgrade but there's also the likes of Ibuki, Harbin, Shimanto, etc

[faint jacinth]

hello guys, how many wyvern i needed to craft?

[viscid swift]

2-3 would be nice to have

[gilded smelt]

Yeah that doesn’t really help me at all

Like push campaign… how.. I’m already stuck in chapter 2

This game doesn’t really make any sense to me

[faint jacinth]

oh then i can move on to other ur gear on gear lab then since i crafted 3 now

[novel solstice]

If you're stuck in chapter 2, run the highest one you can manage a few times, your ships level up, and then you can advance.

[gilded smelt]

Is it supposed to be like this

[eager mulch]

generally people copy the fleet in the guide and are just fine for a long while

[ornate bronze]

how often does operation siren reset?

[eager mulch]

Monthly

[gilded smelt]

I don’t understand what I’m doing wrong

[wind hazel]

well, what are you doing? maybe show your fleet

[gilded smelt]

Ok

[eager mulch]

looks like you didn’t read the guide and copy the fleet

[viscid swift]

well the fleet is bad, copy the newbie fleet in the newbie tips and limit break your ships, among others

[gilded smelt]

Those are the only girls I have

[eager mulch]

the guide tells you where to get the ships

[viscid swift]

and if you read the newbie tips it would tell you where to get new better ships without rolling or paying money

[gilded smelt]

I read it all

[viscid swift]

evidently not very well

[gilded smelt]

It’s really confusing for me

I think I’m gonna delete my account

[wind hazel]

[mellow cape]

They just started playing lol

[gilded smelt]

I mean I been playing for less than an hour and I’m already hitting a wall, it just seems kinda ridiculous

[wind hazel]

and you've been handed a guide that help you strategize to overcome that wall

[mellow cape]

Not that big of a wall, your fleet is fine and you don't really need an optimized/copied fleet to do well, even if it's catered to newbies.

Get unicorn or Portland with your guild coins. Guild shop is accessed in the shop on the bottom left

Those should probably be your main ships to invest in (especially Unicorn). Once you start doing the campaign everything starts to makes sense

Why stress about following a guide perfectly when you don't understand the mechanics or what anything even means if you haven't encountered it

[faint jacinth]

oh ye anyone have ur gear lab list to prio?

[sweet delta]

2 or 3 wyverns and then ask with more context of what content you want to do

I suppose you already have that.

[sweet delta]

Then until someone makes a gear lab order guide, you can follow this message #gameplay-help message

[soft raft]

That's mainly due to your own ineptness (And naturally due to your unfamilliarity with the game), but it's still salvageable as long as you didnt like spend Free gems on skins or scrap your hedgehog

[eager mulch]

smh calling them inept

[gilded smelt]

I played this years ago and had absolutely no problems

It really doesn’t make sense to me

[eager mulch]

It doesn’t make sense to me either

[soft raft]

maybe you got lucky enough with your old account to get away with being extremely unoptimized

but either way, go give that guide a good read

[eager mulch]

except they’ve already read it apparently

[stark quiver]

What doesn’t make sense

[wind hazel]

yo

wrong channel

[gusty olive]

Plane recommendations?

[reef flume]

Bf109g if you are bossing with her

[weary wyvern]

I'm reading through the Ch15 guide doc, and on the section for gear, it says "staag for main fleet" regarding AA guns. Maybe I'm just too dyslexic to get it lol but what does this mean?

[reef flume]

Rest is good

[stark quiver]

It’s an AA gun
The staag bofors
Available in gear lab

[novel solstice]

There is an AA gun named "STAAG". Use it on any battleship or carrier that has an AA gun slot.

[hollow gust]

You don't just put bf109 when shes bossing

[ivory pawn]

Means use this gun: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_40mm_Bofors_STAAG

[gusty olive]

That's a rocket plane rite?

If boss is heavy?

[stark quiver]

For medium armor or light if you want

[reef flume]

Light and medium

[stark quiver]

Then just run a fighter with bombs

[reef flume]

On heavy use the other rocket fighter (the one in gear lab) or La-9

[weary wyvern]

Thanks, guys. I tried looking up any guns that were called "STAAG" and nothing came up, so I got really confused 😭

[opaque karma]

what fleet are you guys using to hit nagato meta for over 50%? i can get her down to only 55 with my best attempts

[novel solstice]

Basically, the STAAG gives +10 HIT stat, which is really handy for those backline ships. It's also not bad for actual AA speed, so you're not paying much cost in terms of the important killing-planes part of W15 to get that bonus to your backliners.

[hollow gust]

It's only used in harby/meta fights with medium/maybe light armor . Otherwise you still use normal fighter. Not to mention sync matters more then damage

[stark quiver]

Shinano amagi cv implacable
Helena kazagumo unzen

[novel solstice]

The hazemeyer is the discount alternative to the STAAG, though by the time you get to W15 you should be able to get enough of the real thing to not need the hazemeyers:
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_40mm_Bofors_Hazemeyer

[opaque karma]

wont unzen die? i have azuma and shes barely surviving

[stark quiver]

She doesn’t die for me

[elfin hollow]

if you’re running tool kit and rudder on unzen she’ll be fine

[hollow gust]

Kills the whole point of using unzen

[short wagon]

what are some meta sr ships

[sweet delta]

The ones in meta showdown are all SR

Occasionally some event ones like pamiat, u556, hiei

[eager mulch]

meta sr ships or sr meta ships

[stark quiver]

Why nerf unzen

[forest palm]

~~clearly the goal is not to correct the course, so FuMO it is ~~

[ebon marten]

So i ended up miss clicking cause I was half awake and got this is she good?

[stark quiver]

Lower end of the UR bbs
+1 rld tho

[sweet delta]

A three star Ulrich is not good at all, and you very likely shouldn't use bulins on her

[sweet delta]

Unlikely, Unzen can main tank until third CV strike

[rain hearth]

any point in 3 stars on event archives?

[opaque karma]

i see

idont have haluruyu is there anything i can pull from from here? currently using taihou in her place

[short wagon]

sr ships that are currently in the meta

[gilded smelt]

so if I wanna move forward I just have to grind the levels I already beat

is that right

[jaunty vault]

depends on the level

[gilded smelt]

I just started playing

[jaunty vault]

how far along are you

[sweet delta]

Chapter 2

[gilded smelt]

mhm I'm in chapter 2

[stark quiver]

Enterprise

[eternal moth]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips This is always a good resource; all the guides at the homepage would help

[stark quiver]

They read it already

[sweet delta]

It doesn't seem like you have amagiCV, Shinano, or implacable either?
Use Yorkii, someone, and ark royal

[sweet delta]

They read it all

[opaque karma]

i have shinabo and implac its in the fleet

[eternal moth]

Level your ships, give them gear, and you should be able to keep going. What are you confused by, anything specific?

[gilded smelt]

how do I level my ships

[eternal moth]

FIghting with them

[short wagon]

is yhere a single person in this server who dont got enterprise

[opaque karma]

also why figjter on shinano not torp

[gilded smelt]

so I was right, just grind if I'm stuck

[opaque karma]

with inplacable converge is almost guarantee hit

[opaque karma]

.

[sweet delta]

Shinano is using TBs

[opaque karma]

ah new planes im only know the old one

[stark quiver]

Also helena

[eager mulch]

omg its cooper

[sweet delta]

No it is not a new plane, it's been out for 3 years already

[short wagon]

is there a single person in this server without a retrofitted helena

[worn quest]

anything a new player should be doing? theres a lot of info on the guide so im kinda lost

[sweet delta]

Are you asking for more info than that?

[eternal moth]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips Read through that if you haven't

[worn quest]

idk i saw in one of the guides that i should be farming for equipment in world 3 but i saw from somewhere else to rush to world 9?

[eternal moth]

Farming for gear is old recommendations

[worn quest]

and that to not rely on equipment but to brute force with levels

[stark quiver]

What guides were you reading/watching

[eternal moth]

We really don't recommend it anymore.

[worn quest]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide this one

[ivory pawn]

Don't bother with the new player guide in ECTL.

[eternal moth]

Yeah, I was gonna say it was probably ECTL's

[soft raft]

If you were looking at this one https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide , it's fairly out of date with basically zero known plans of ever touching it again (They havent even made a chapter for W15 yet)

[worn quest]

ah

[eternal moth]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/ Use the guides here, specifically the new player I linked earlier and the Fleetbuilding guide

[remote quarry]

The only thing I MIGHT say a new player could grind for gear wise are quad mag torps in War Archive. Those suck to get from IB boxes, and there is better stuff to craft in gear lab.

And maybe a copy of Cosmic Kicks

[eternal moth]

I wouldn't even recommend new players touch WA for a while

[sweet delta]

I remember theyve been insisting that they have plans for the last 2 years

[soft raft]

Cosmic kicks is pretty low prio

[worn quest]

ok thanks

[eternal moth]

If you have specific questions, though, feel free to ask here.

[ebon marten]

I got only lil enterprise lol

[opaque karma]

does kazagumo and sirius cv buffs stack

[ebon marten]

Also don't got a retro Helena since I just started working on unicorn atm

[eternal moth]

One major bit of advice I can give everyone: Pick up Unicorn as soon as you start. She's a great healer once her retrofit is complete, and even before that will keep your fleet alive

You can get her in the guild shop, which you don't need to be in a guild for.

[ebon marten]

Unicorn is great

[gilded smelt]

the guide is great for dos and donts but it seems like there should be a section on actually getting stronger, because there isn't

[ebon marten]

Not using her atm tho cause I have percy maxed until I get her retrofitted

[soft raft]

I mean this would certainly help with making your ships stronger

[ebon marten]

I mean if u get those ships u get a lot of purple bulins from missions to limit break them then is just farming for their retro stuff even blue gear will help u a good amount

[remote quarry]

There are plenty of New Player basic guides, what we need is a new player PROGRESSION guide, that will take them into early endgame.

[soft raft]

Wasn Cheeky working on one of those?

[eternal moth]

The beginner fleet can literally do that. Although it depends on what you consider early endgame

[eager mulch]

fox mines

[ebon marten]

Retro laffey portland helena and unicorn do a fk ton of work

[eager mulch]

early endgame probs smth like W14

[gilded smelt]

like... hey put this girl in the dorms, blah blah blah food, use your xp packs on xyz, save these xp packs for xyz later, grind this stage for xp when you're stuck, blah blah blah , I have no idea what the f I'm doing

[ebon marten]

I got insanely lucky and got san diego and percy when I started but I still used Portland and Helena

[velvet slate]

retrofit sandy
retrofit unicorn
maxed nj or ulrich
ibuki with augment
FDG sim5
Cheshire sim5

And a couple carriers and you are good to go all the way to w15

[eternal moth]

Sandy's honestly a trap for new players, because she takes so many resources.

Yes, she's really good, but it's so hard to finish her, and she's not great until you get her modernization.

[ebon marten]

Yeah I was told to work on her later and just focus first on Helena and unicorn

[worn quest]

how do i make purple border units to gold?

[soft raft]

that barely helps
Way too vauge and skipping alot of steps and vital info

[wind hazel]

retrofit them, only selected ships can undergo retrofit

[gilded smelt]

so why is there no event

[eternal moth]

I don't even like the Helena retrofit recommendation. There are quite a few higher-priority ships. Portland, starter, Nelson and Sara being the big ones

[velvet slate]

not vague at all, because there's a lot of gear guides

[soft raft]

No im talking about your goofy statement

[eternal moth]

Big event starting in 2 weeks, with the prequel coming next week.

[ebon marten]

Pretty sure retrofit

[ebon marten]

U just mixed it by like a day or two if think

[eternal moth]

This is actually the first downtime we've had in a while I feel.

[spring bolt]

not really, according to my 19 days old account progress, i don't lack the resource to retro her except last node, which is not that important, and she can do much more than normal vanguards
as of now, i am using her as solo vanguard to push ch 11 contents

[velvet slate]

yeh there's a lot of gear guides to explain how you need to equip ships >_> so getting those 6 ships up and running is a shortcut to world 15

[cobalt rapids]

recommending investment in ulrich or nj is misleading to new players

[eternal moth]

I don't remember, you can't have the same account playing on different servers at the exact same time right? If I logged into Lil E it would kick me off Avrora, for example?

[cobalt rapids]

you can

[soft raft]

retrofit sandy (Costs alot of resources, also costs half a UR Bullin to get her item)
retrofit unicorn (Not bad advice, but of course needs to farm hard mode)
maxed nj or ulrich (Extremely misleading, Both of them are on the very low end of the UR BB power scale, also you're ignoring Shinano)
ibuki with augment (Ignoring the fact that you have to grind Ibuki which during the meantime, there are lots of better or equal options than her
FDG sim5 (Time consuming to even get her in the first place, she's also on the middle end of the UR BB powerscale)
Cheshire sim5 (Takes time as well and isnt a high priority investment)

[forest palm]

isn't Sandy w/ Augment alone actually really good?

[soft raft]

You're also ignoring the difficulty jumps in W13 and W14 that warrant the need for other ships

[velvet slate]

literally have 3 friends who started less than 3 months ago, all of them have passed chapter 14. one of them got carried by NJ 90% of the time until musashi event recently. Another one of them started a few days before Amagi 2 event and has recently completed chapter 14 with NJ amagi and musashi after maxing NJ first

[gilded smelt]

so like following some early guide, but what if you pull a super strong ship, do you just start using them? nobody say anything about that

[eternal moth]

It's impossible to have enough UR bulins to MLB NJ and Musashi within 3 months.

[eager mulch]

[gilded smelt]

why would I start playing and investing in a team when there's an event banner around the corner and I pull way stronger units I mean

[wind hazel]

maybe oil prince whale cubes and pull dupes

[gilded smelt]

am I crazy or something

[eager mulch]

because you may not be able to invest in them well

[eternal moth]

Because you have limited resources to start out with

[gilded smelt]

well yeah, so why wouldn't I be using them on the stronger units

[eternal moth]

And there's no guarantee that the ships on the banner, aside from the UR, are going to be any better than ships that are currently available

[cobalt rapids]

because its better to push so u can progress instead of fiddling around doing nothing
also newbie template has either low resource ships or ships that will last you a while

[remote quarry]

Because you would not be able to efficiently grind coins, OpSi for plates and prints, etc etc

[sweet delta]

Then you can ask here whether that stringer ship is worth using early

[soft raft]

It's very dependent on a individual ship to ship basis
Better to raise decent Elite/Rare ships that are cheaper than to invest in a more expensive SR that may not even be good in the first place

[remote quarry]

You start out raising a mediorce but decent fleet to get you stable, then a better fleet when you have more resources, rinse, repeat

[eager mulch]

i have amagi-chan, can i use her over pennsylvania?

[gilded smelt]

it just seems like I'm going to be investing in a noob team and then at some point I'm scrambling to restart all over with actual girls

[cobalt rapids]

98% of the game is starting and lvling other ships

[eternal moth]

No, because by the time your beginner team is strong enough you have ways to easily level other ships

[remote quarry]

Are you a noob. Then yes, you will invest in a noob team. It serves a purpose, and will always be useful even if only for fleet tech later on

[wind hazel]

[eternal moth]

lol, ECTL actually has Penny in T4 and Amagi-chan in T5

[ebon marten]

Im a whale have a really good first fleet atm and im still here sitting here lvling other ships cause I need them for other scenarios or for second fleet

[gilded smelt]

so basically in the meantime I'm gonna be afk for hours grinding to level up the team, can someone just tell me that

[worn quest]

so if i pull on a stronger units its better to ignore it until my noobie fleet is maxed?

[remote quarry]

Thats pretty much what we all do every day

[eternal moth]

It shouldn't be hours. If it's that difficult to beat chapter 2 something's wrong.

[wind hazel]

depends on what they are

[stark quiver]

berke situation?

[soft raft]

I mean alot of this game is grinding in the first place
it's a marathon, not a sprint, especially in the very early campaign chapters

[eternal moth]

Do you have gear in all slots (at least the first 2)?

[remote quarry]

You could always spend the 5 bucks on the level 70 commander boost, and massively jump start your progress

[ebon marten]

Ur newbie fleet is what is gonna be farming u those mats for those stronger units so they are usable

[worn quest]

i got warspit

[eager mulch]

I’m still timed out in ectl for like 5 more days

[soft raft]

Dogshit
both pre and post retro

[worn quest]

:(

[wind hazel]

also don't pull on banner other than Light

[velvet slate]

wait until u find out he pulled enough shimakaze's that he actually retired 1 or 2 cuz he already maxed shimakaze on top of nj, musa and amagi 🤣 . Ill ask him to send me a picture of his team, he literally started 1 week before amagi 2. So no is not impossible at all u just need some really strong luck and he also whaled :))

[soft raft]

She's basically stuck in 2019 unless they bother giving her a augment

[wind hazel]

only pull 1 Light daily, until event

[gilded smelt]

is there a guide that tells me the recommended levels or fleet power for each chapter? that would be great thank you

[eternal moth]

Oh, so he's spending hundreds of dollars just to buy cubes. That's not exactly a typical player

[cobalt rapids]

great general advice then ?

[sweet delta]

If u whaled then it's w15 in 3 months or bust

[wind hazel]

call me prophet

[eternal moth]

That's what he did

[soft raft]

The Wiki has individual pages for each chapter that lists the lvls
Fleet Power is a useless metric btw
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Category:Campaign

[sweet delta]

No, he did 14

And regardless not at all good advice to new players

[soft raft]

Ah yes
And such advice surely could apply to a fresh new newbie that is most likely F2P

Yeah that wont make him even more confused at all with such blanket statements, totally

[opaque karma]

finally got past the 50 mark thanks for the helpe yal

[eternal moth]

But yeah, I'd be surprised if someone beating W14/15 in 3 months is spending less than $2000 USD on this game

[gilded smelt]

so basically I want to be at the mob and boss level with each of my girls

[sweet delta]

But it's doable with $0

[soft raft]

along with keeping up with their limit breaks and giving them at least decent poverty gear yes

Especially the limit breaks

[worn quest]

how good is giulio from the pass thing? i cant find her in the tierlist

[eager mulch]

being on par with the enemy ships is usually recommended but you might need more or less levels depending on the ships and gear you have is what im told

[cobalt rapids]

good for her tech
not good for use

[soft raft]

1. ECTL hasnt updated in months and most likely wont for more months
2. Cruise pass METAs are basically universally dogshit outside of the very few that give good fleet tech

[spring bolt]

a summary of my EN account progression so far:
just from my experience, sandy retro = uni retro, but they have different focuses, as sandy will help offensive more and uni helps defensive more, and starter retro is not needed as new comer mission only requires 7 nodes but not a bad idea to finish one, usually z23 i think
portland retro is basically no choice as you need a tank... as for helena... didn't even level her
and with uni retro + sandy retro + portland retro, early game contents will suddenly be way too easy and i ended up using 1 fleet, 1:1 pusing content until ch 10 (sandy + tirpitz), and only added uni to do 2:1 and i am now working on 11-1
the choice of battle ship is not that important but i still recommends tirpitz, as she gives ib tech points, other bb/bc choice doesn't really change game experience so i would just pick the ship that helps progression to fdg
the real thing stopped me is the commander level, still 79 so i can't do ch 12 even i can finish ch 11 now, will probably need to farm ch 11 for some time and my fast progression is being lucky to have a collab event, the t5 oild cap really saved me from long cmdr level grind (i farmed 100k pt). real new players may take 3x to 5x time to reach that as they need time to figure out how things work
@viscid swift just in case you are still interested in this

[stark quiver]

[worn quest]

ty

[velvet slate]

the point was those ships will get you to chapter 15..... as a typical player it will take you longer but the other guy who got there didnt actually whale outside a couple packs and NJ carried him quick to chapter 12 which allowed him to easily farm gold and develop the rest of his team needed to proceed further

Im almost certain people forgot just how hard a 4* nj can carry a new player all the way to beat chapter 12 provided u get some AA and 1 or 2 carriers for w12

[gilded smelt]

so it's basically, no waifu players, tactical nightmare or bricked account

[haughty halo]

What are the best early game units to use in the 1 spot on your fleets? Right now im running Portland in one and Madgeburg in the other

[eternal moth]

What? No.

Using all waifu just means it takes longer

[haughty halo]

I'm on 4-2 btw

[opaque karma]

is it possible to full LB nagato meta without getting her 5 times i started playing again only like 4 days ago

[viscid swift]

How uhh extensively did you make use OpSi to help with commander XP out of curiosity?

Also how did you manage to get enough Cruiser prints to retro sandy?

[eternal moth]

Portland is fine, and you really want to only use a single fleet as long as you can

[cobalt rapids]

theres ships that can get you to chapter 15 for 0 UR bulins cost
investing in permanent options that usually are at the end of the priority queue for UR bulin investments is misleading
betting on dupe whaling or lucking out is misleading

[soft raft]

Which one?
regular Nagato? Not worth the effort
META Nagato? You're way too late to get more than her first copy

[eager mulch]

he literally said nagato meta

[sweet delta]

Ahh yes I can totally see a 4* NJ killing the suicide boats

[soft raft]

he hadnt edited his statement yet when I went to type

[novel solstice]

The first ship I got to max level was a gray wifu. Utterly useless ship in terms of power, but I wanted a cute girl in front of my vanguard; random gray destroyer can go as far as world 12 without a problem, it just requies a bit more grinding to gain levels.

[eager mulch]

my fault original gangster

[soft raft]

dude campaign up to W12 is pretty easy
I beat up to 12-3 with Hood (Pre aug)/Unicorn (Pre retro)/Illustrious Bremerton/Z23/London Retro like it was nothing, I only hit a wall becuase I had to go build a boss fleet from scratch

[opaque karma]

so she can only be LB by copy did they not add some sort of bulin for meta ships yet

[eager mulch]

never have never will

[soft raft]

there is no bullin system for META ships
Tho Showdown METAs return in roughly a year after their first run to a perament version of META Fights in the dossier

[eager mulch]

you limit break them using meta crystals which in the case of showdown metas is only by getting to 25k for mlb

[eternal basalt]

They have... other meta showdown in a year or so

[slender turtle]

Yall think rodney meta will ever hit the META shop, or only through the opsi dossier?

Never had the opportunity to get her

[cobalt rapids]

showdowns are archived in dossier

[soft raft]

Dossier only since she's a showdown one
META Shop is for cruise pass METAs

As for when she'll arrive:

[gilded smelt]

I wanna like this game I really do

[slender turtle]

Tragedy, understood XD

[eternal basalt]

Incidentially easier for newbs to get dossier than shop ships

[eager mulch]

i hate al

[soft raft]

Yup lol
just fight it once and the game offers to do the rest of the damage needed at just the cost of the needed oil and 15 mins of waiting for 500 pts per completed fight

[eternal moth]

Ok, let's start with this. Who's dying, your front or back line?

And is the screenshot you posted earlier still your current fleet?

[sweet delta]

Let's start with is unicorn in your fleet

[viscid swift]

Start by getting the reccomended ships from the guild shop

[gilded smelt]

I just need to make a new account

[eternal moth]

No you dont

Why would you think that?

[eternal basalt]

Did you waste your gems?

[spring bolt]

i cleared ch 4 last month, only managed to clear explorable and hidden up to c4, this month i fully cleared all explorable/hidden i can get by now and finished ch 5. overall opsi gave me about 4, maybe 5 cmdr level. tbh if c1 farming is super attractive but i decided not to do it as it might kill me to do 2 accounts in c1

about gold retro prints, got 2 from hard mode clears, 2 from guild shop, did hard mode 3-2, 4-2, 5-2 3 star clear, 1 from some random progression reward and even bought 1 with medal and i got 12 to retro sandy. the trick is leave these 2 nodes for later

[viscid swift]

Makes sense

Hmmm

What's the average levels of your ships right now?

[velvet slate]

NJs only downfall is the fact that she falls behind in meta bosses and hard mode arbiter, and both are pretty irrelevant. Cuz decent team can 2 shot any meta boss even if you use NJ and FDG in the same team and hard arbiter u can have 4 teams to beat it with hile normal arbiter u can beat it regardless of how strong you are, so is not the end of the world if you cant one shot arbiter hard or a meta boss.

On the other hand NJ is extremely good all the way up to chapter 15 including chapter 15, putting a couple bulins into nj is by no means the end of the world or a huge problem like some people like to pretend especially since UR Bulins are plentiful.

[eternal basalt]

If you need gold bp's, do story missions of SR/UR ships

[soft raft]

UR Bullins are plentiful

Especially compared to the other two Bullin rarities

[eternal basalt]

For vets yes

Gold most rare

[soft raft]

yeah but he's talking about his mythical speedrun strat for whales and shit, not from the perspective of veteran players

[cobalt rapids]

1. UR bulins arent plentiful, new players are always struggling even more so if they are casual
2. i didn't say NJ is bad, i said she is at the bottom of the priority queue
   which means theres no point in investing in NJ because she will not speed your early game progress and theres no point for lategame because theres a high chance youll get a ship that does every NJ job better

[eager mulch]

we really got a sequel to itheberke before gta 6 came out

[spring bolt]

i wanted to keep their level at 110 but i realized it's more oil friendly to get some to lv120 and do 1:1/2:1 when pushing lower chapters to save oil, as i don't have so much oil
plus a lv125 musa

[gilded smelt]

deleted my account

[velvet slate]

literally been playing for a year (12 months and a half now), never bought any cubes (but i did buy the leveling packs). Maxed every UR ship that came around since Guam/Laffey event except shimakaze because i have no use for her. So yeh extremely doable and bulins are plentiful especially if you dont forget to do your comissions and focus cube missions

[eternal basalt]

But... why?

[stark quiver]

cool, if u wanna start over another acount, we will be here to answer your questions

[viscid swift]

I definitely have a bit more faith in it but I think there's still one pretty glaring weakness to one fleeting to W12

Events

Because without a 2nd fleet you're not meeting the hard mode requirements most likely and because of commander level gates you're not really getting to w12 faster

So you're losing the ability to farm most events efficientlyish

[eternal basalt]

What do you mean, you'll never EVER get the TLR ships again

[gilded smelt]

I’m gonna do things right this time

[soft raft]

You didnt need a full restart when your account was still perfectly salvageable but you do you ig

[gilded smelt]

I'm gonna make things even harder for myself, is what I'm gonna do

[soft raft]

?????????

[eternal basalt]

You do you

[stark quiver]

go ahead

[gilded smelt]

it'll be fun, and when I'm stuck and whining you guys can look at me funny

[eternal moth]

I don't know what's with the passive aggressiveness all of a sudden...

[gilded smelt]

[cobalt rapids]

that is your experience but that isnt how UR docks look like
if u crunch the numbers down u get 4 UR bulins / 2 months
24 per year + how many milestones there are
lets consider a milestone to be -1 to UR bulin cost then u can afford 8 URs per year
this year we got uvh, kron, vanny
soyuz, alsace, mogador, amagi and now the UR event in december +1/+2
for a total of 8/9
so as u can see its barely enough for that not even mentioning permas
which if you had to pick one it would be one whos role hasnt been filled fully like shinanos

[haughty halo]

So from what I can tell from this discord and websites is most imortant early early game unit is unicorn ? I'm only like 2 weeks in and on 4-2. Level 37. I have her, and Penn who is apparently great for early game. Any other mainstays I should be looking into to help me through the early worlds

Feel like I'm missing all kinds a stuff tbh

[gilded smelt]

well I didn't mean to sounds passive aggressive, I just wanna have fun

[spring bolt]

not raising a second fleet doesn't mean you don't level any ship out side this fleet, and one fleeting doesn't mean you don't deploy a second fleet to pad hard mode stat req/acv/recon
but yes, the concern regarding ship exp is correct, new player would have so much time/resource before ch 12 and they can easily raise a second fleet if they want and not hurt the, the issue will be more related to gold bulins and gears, like i only got my first twin 120 3 days ago and sandy had to use twin 128 for a long time

[gilded smelt]

I'm not being sarcastic

[slender turtle]

Unicorn is life basically, goated shipgirl

[eager mulch]

you will use unicorn from chapter 1 all the way to chapter 15

[soft raft]

Unicorn is basically a permament fixture in your mob fleet
after retrofit she's the best healer in the game

As for your feeling that you're missing alot of the best stuff, that's only natural and you'll get them in time
Like i said earlier, this game is a marathon, not a sprint

[eager mulch]

is how important she is

[viscid swift]

Certainly but my concern is new players might up tunnel visioning on that just one fleet especially if raising more ships doesn't have any immediate value other than stat padding

[haughty halo]

So using resources on retro fitting unicorn, leveling her, enhancing etc is all a go? Throw it all at her?

[slender turtle]

She is the most important retrofit, you will be using her your whole career in this game

Easiest send forsure

[gilded smelt]

once I set my mind on something I go for it... I'm just being honest! it'll be harder for me, and it's going to take longer, but I realized if I wanna have fun I gotta do things my own way

[ebon marten]

Yes

[undone plover]

Cheeky what do u think about using nelson and getting tirp for fleet 2?

So fleet 1 will be penny/uni/flex until u get nelson

I think using tirp before unlocking fdg is wasted xp

Ik nelson needs retrofit but u will be commander level gated anyway

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't be opposed to it but with caveat if they don't have any better options than tirpitz

[spring bolt]

well, commission slaves... i mean, you will need at least 1 lv100 commission slave for lv50 daily mission so they basically have to do it. in my case, z23.
and also lots of lv30 ships, for me it's long island/hiryuu/penny at the beginning

[ebon marten]

Dw once u got a good fleets or fleets and those ships start rolling in and u farming good u gonna be enjoying endless waifus for sure

[undone plover]

I just mean for medal shop
Like in a vacuum
Ofc if there is kms event u can skip tirp

[spring bolt]

also a good thing about tirp is she has TRP

[gilded smelt]

that's all I care about really, thank you

[ebon marten]

Legit is how I'm lvling my second fleet they live in commissions

[eternal moth]

I just started a new save on a different server, so I'll see where I get stuck

[ebon marten]

They all sitting at 70 to 80 rn in lvls

[viscid swift]

True but average level is a concern with event hard modes so level 30s probably won't work

[gilded smelt]

I don't mind if it's longer and harder for me

[viscid swift]

Look you play how you want but maybe don't ask for advice if you're not gonna follow it

[eternal moth]

One other question: Did you turn on auto movement once you beat 1-3?

[gilded smelt]

I did

[ebon marten]

So who am I redeeming from the ur exchange again? Shinano right?

[eternal moth]

Shinano until she's MLB

[ebon marten]

Bet am I spending any bulins on her or just straight dupes to max her?

[eternal moth]

Nah, save bulins for non-perma ships

[spring bolt]

well they will gain level during commission so no need to worry about that too much, now i have z23 and hiryuu above lv100
and main story hm level requirement isn't that high, only 90 at 9-4
stat padding is more useful for me when i needed acv and recon in normal maps

[viscid swift]

Hmmm

[ebon marten]

Bet

[gilded smelt]

I'm going to keep the overwhelming majority of advice in mind and stick to it, I already screwed up a couple things before so I can do it better

[eternal moth]

If you get to 4 copies of Shinano and you have enough it might be worth using 1 to finish her, but I think just using permanent copies is best

Oh man, Lexington server is stacked this month. CV AND BB in medal shop

[spring bolt]

tbh just play and forget about correct way to advance for the first few weeks, or even months
this game don't push you hard so relax
only get serious when you have a goal, like: i want this ship or something like that
or if you are like "i want everything, now!", then start reading all guides you can find

[ebon marten]

Bet also how good is formidable?

[soft raft]

Not good
terrible at her intended job of Freeze utility

[ebon marten]

Ok was gonna lvl her with illustrious but nvm lol

[soft raft]

Illustrious is also not that good tho to a lesser extent than Formidable

At most she's used for W15 support fleet in the long run

[velvet slate]

you are presuming you always pity, which is the wrong approach because thats not how it works. and if you farm for cube commissions you can get enough cubes to regularly pull for dupes during events

nevermind the fact that you can get a decent amount of UR drops by doing your regular daily pull on heavy or special, but people always advice new players to summon for light which imo is the wrong approach for new players.

one of my pals that i started playing with has pulled almost 40 shinanos and over 30 NJs by just doing daily pulls and occasionally ignoring events and still doing special/heavy because he didnt care for the non UR events.

yeh his luck was out of this world but even if you divide what he got by 3 you still end up with a decent amount ships u can get from just doing dailies on heavy/special and not actualy do light

[soft raft]

huh where did cubes come into the equation? I thought this was about UR Bullins

[ebon marten]

Ok thx for the info

[sweet delta]

He's saying to pull for UR dupes

[soft raft]

Bruh

[forest palm]

but why...

[cobalt rapids]

i dont presume pity
i presume UR drop and quit but yes tldr endresult is same
your strategy is banking on luck i cannot agree with that because if ure lucky then u can adapt but if ure unlucky then u just lose

[sweet delta]

I think we just end this useless discussion here and stop humoring him

[stark quiver]

Do you guys grind ss tech

[soft raft]

no

[stark quiver]

Damn

[sweet delta]

Yes

[spring bolt]

yes and im done with all normal sub, only 2 tempesta sub left

[eternal moth]

Maybe once I finish leveling all my other important techs

[soft raft]

what even is the relevant SS tech anyway?

[forest palm]

I might start doing that....

[spring bolt]

all ss that gives tech?

[sweet delta]

Some ss gives HP at level 120, not very useful unless you want to use homura against w16

[eternal moth]

RLD would likely be the most important

[velvet slate]

not if you start prepared no, you only lose if you lack resources to reach pity and end up having a garbage run not getting a drop before 150 pulls and ending up without resources. Again, you can get plenty of cubes to occasionally go for more than 1 copy., but if an event cathhes you with your pants down yeh you stop while you are ahead.

[sweet delta]

There is no rld tech

[forest palm]

I guess this is ok tech, it's just more stats

Sub Tech farming really does feel like you have nothing better to do, so you just 1:1 farm call in subs

[ebon marten]

Noob question but how do u grind ss tech?

[forest palm]

you don't

like actual sub tech farming is for the late game player

[ebon marten]

Ohhh

[spring bolt]

i just put them in dorm and change to new ones when they reach lv120

[soft raft]

Who has more DPS, Drake FS5 or Brest?

[spring bolt]

CN paper puts drake higher but i started to doubt that they over estimated drake and a few other old ships...

[ebon marten]

Does the progress bar for the development of a ship for exp only count once u have 1.2m?

[soft raft]

you cannot work on CDC1 and CDC2 at the same time if that's what you mean

And for CBs, CDC1 requires backliners and CDC2 requires frontliners

you dont need to use ships that have max XP for research either

[ebon marten]

Ah meant for example if I wanted to unlock agnir since I need 1.2m accumulated exp with a iron blood ship for cdc1 would it only show me that progress bar full at 100% or what I'm currently at sorry i would have to read the guide again if it said something about it lol

[soft raft]

Well right now you haven't even gotten the tech points needed to start her development in the first place

But after that, it'll progressively fill up towards 100% as you grind

[ebon marten]

Ahh I thought completing these would give u the tech pts for it i see

[soft raft]

/fleettech this is how you do it

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[ebon marten]

That's useful af tysm

[stark quiver]

where does warspite rank between the lower end UR bbs and higher end Sr bbs

[soft raft]

Lower end UR BB > Higher end SR BB > probably most mid-end SR BBs > Warspite retro

[spring bolt]

nah warspite is still among mid-end SR BBs

[stark quiver]

also, what makes her so bad?

[soft raft]

expensive af retro for a ship that's essentially stuck in 2019 in terms of the meta

she's been heavily powercrept statwise and her exclusive niche has been eroded by HIT stat gear
Fairly mid ""barrage"" as well

[sweet delta]

There's no specific reason, she's just overall worse than new SRs

[spring bolt]

retrofitted too early
well pre-retro she was so bad so she needed it anyway... the devs boosted her dps by giving her better average, didn't raised her damage ceiling much, back then it was ok but when stat monsters came, she quickly fell behind

[slender turtle]

I feel like the answer is obvious, but why does honolulu have so many skins as a blue rarity ship😂😂

[cobalt rapids]

the answer is obvious

[slender turtle]

2 big reasons?

[stark quiver]

but if not factoring the retro cost, her stats retrofitted arent really bad right?
i can see her barrage being weaker tho
compring with owari, she has more fp/hit
what other factors play into it?

[spring bolt]

there are others like her, yamashiro, cygnet

[noble osprey]

Guys why is Anchorage listed as high priority research? Whats special about her?

[slender turtle]

Giga tank

[elfin hollow]

stronk tank

[cobalt rapids]

top tank that u can get ready fast

[noble osprey]

Is she as good as Agir too? Or are their roles different?

[stark quiver]

agir is more tanky

[slender turtle]

Same role, not as good, infinitely easier to get

[cobalt rapids]

no they overlap
aegir is usually more tanky, has more support and more damage
anchorage is sometimes more tanky and has a very minor vang surv support
same role overall but sometimes you need both or sometimes you need more of the same role

[spring bolt]

yeah, cost effective issue mainly
performance wise she's only slightly better than hood at boss, and she is not that good at mob, and even worse than hood againt non-DD light armor bosses
cost wise nelson is much cheaper and do similar things
number wise, you could expect warspite doing around 75% to 80% of top gold bb dps

[noble osprey]

Ok thanks guys

[hollow sail]

her barrage is just way too bad, she has some great base hitrates due to high luck and acc stat but that's about it. she has a "gimmick" of having hit extra hitrate against DDs which her barrage does nothing against either so you would not want to use her against DDs regardless. just completely outclassed in role by many accessible options. she would be at her best in a medium armor boss fleet but even then still very middling

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[sweet delta]

Constellation and owari straight up have 10% DMG bonuses on top of their better barrages

[jaunty vault]

tldr pls

[spring bolt]

tldr: warspite aug when?

[jaunty vault]

hoping for a miracle better than sandy aug

[stark quiver]

where is the 10% from?

[sweet delta]

Read their skills

[hollow sail]

with her high acc and luck her barrage actually shouldn't have been guaranteed crit and just have higher base damage than how it is now, she could then roll for crits and get more damage

[ebon marten]

Percy oath skin when tho

[spring bolt]

buy a plane ticket to Shanghai and devs would tell you, we know nothing

[sweet delta]

~~I read that as buy a plane ticket to Shangri la ~~

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[trim sparrow]

Do you guys usually just wait till you organically get enough pr ship bps or use some of the general bps? Im at 303 daisen right now but kinda just wanna use her already

[forest palm]

personally I just use the seasons' BPs to push the ships of that season, and that's mostly because I'm comfortable with where I'm at with Protocores

[trail nymph]

do collab units ever get reruns?

[trim sparrow]

I feel it

[forest palm]

collab reruns have happened before, but that in itself is an uncertainty

[keen sable]

Removing pr ships from pool makes ur go faster

[trim sparrow]

Good point. I got a couple daisen research on que, ill prolly just use the generals after theyre done

[slender turtle]

If I have a UVH already, should i just take her again on the perma pity instead of NJ?

[trim sparrow]

I think NJ still the goat after all these years

[brittle depot]

Id say no. If you don't have shima or shinano overwise get NJ

[slender turtle]

Ye i have shinano and shima mlb

[brittle depot]

Then yeah get nj. Shes still pretty good if you lack other UR BBs

[slender turtle]

Yeah might grab her, i have mushashi, but i want to build a eagle union fleet

[slow fox]

Roon (Fate) now 101.4%

[keen sable]

Just do it

[void garnet]

can u pvp friends

[sweet delta]

What about yuubari

[slow fox]

Wow I am NOT reading that

[sweet delta]

Only if you randomly find them in the wild

[slow fox]

Okay I'll read it

Smokescreen, evaboost, AND shields? kms

Does the augment barrage happen only once?

[sweet delta]

every 20s

[slow fox]

100% EVABoost wow

Yuubari: 49.55 --> 63.92

[copper glacier]

How do I queue research projects?

[soft raft]

Go to the research you have active right now and press the Queue button

[copper glacier]

O.o I never thought of doing that! I'll go try!

[slow fox]

PSA this value does include her shields. (I pretended they were Indianapolis Shields)

[copper glacier]

Dooood. That worked! Thank you!!!

[spring bolt]

now we can have more yuubari fake shields, nice

[eager mulch]

[real jasper]

I MLBed Enterprise, so what should I choose now?

[spring bolt]

you won't be using any of the 3 in most cases, only illustrious is actually useful for ch 15 air support fleet, plus hms tech point so i guess just get her, and later get the other 2 for ijn tech point as well

[storm heron]

[real jasper]

Ty, so I wont use them anytime soon right? So it's a bullin then?

[storm heron]

wdym it's a bulin?

[inland shoal]

You should be getting enough medals to buy bulins and SR ships

[spring bolt]

not like anytime soon, but you will probably end up never using them, except lusty in ch 15 air support fleet, and when you level them for tech

or waifu reason lusty soft landing

[hollow gust]

They are tech though

[gilded smelt]

Alright alright

I’m back

[storm heron]

[gilded smelt]

Everyone

And here’s how it’s going

[storm heron]

any questions before being sent to algen

[gilded smelt]

Yeah what do you think

I deleted my account earlier and this is how it’s going so far

[storm heron]

no good, if you want to know our expectation, here is the guide

[gilded smelt]

Oh I already know everything

Just wanted to know what the guys/girls from earlier thought

I didn’t even want unicorn I just pulled her by accident

[storm heron]

then it's not good, repulse bad, where's ur portland, where's ur starter dd, and on and on

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/ you should really read this

[sweet delta]

They've already read it

[viscid swift]

I don't really know what kind of answer you're looking for or expecting

[gilded smelt]

I spent all my guild coins on z18, mullany, and tai yuan

[storm heron]

[stark quiver]

Cool

[crisp tree]

If I need Sardegna empire vanguard exp for research will I get more with the more Sardegna empire vanguard I have on fleet?

[storm heron]

2x 2000 guild coins rip

[sweet delta]

Probably wants us to tell him it's shit again, and then he'll delete and restart 💀

[gilded smelt]

heyy nooo they are adorable!

[eager mulch]

i told you guys we got itheberke 2 before gta 6

[gilded smelt]

also, am girl

[viscid swift]

well more ships equals more XP earns so yes

[gilded smelt]

I'm very proud of my front line of cuties

[stark quiver]

So do you have a question? Or do you wanna blog

[crisp tree]

Neat, These combat missions won't feel like a drag to complete then

[viscid swift]

yes, blogging goes to #al-general

[gilded smelt]

[storm heron]

sorry to come off as aggressive, but in gameplay help we just recommend optimal early game so you can relax in mid game later on, else you will be stuck with slow progression which doesn't really help when you want to make your ship strong

and trying to argue otherwise (with saying the ships is cute etc.) doesn't help

[gilded smelt]

it's alright~ I should be in another channel I just missed you guys

[barren tapir]

wtf

[mellow cape]

Level up your unicorn lol

[gilded smelt]

ooh also I would never come here to argue, I already had a nice team with unicorn, helena, portland, pennsylvania, and javelin but I just decided to restart for fun!

[hollow gust]

[barren tapir]

i don't think this belongs in gph

[gilded smelt]

It’s ok I’m gonna leave the server and stop bothering everyone sorry

[elfin hollow]

How to beat artiber hard mode, I only make it to 21x hp

[viscid swift]

what are you using?

[stark quiver]

Use your better anti heavy fleets

[elfin hollow]

The carrier missed a lot of torps

[forest palm]

if you're able to chew through 75% of the HP bar that's pretty good, but after that it depends on what you're using, and the gear you're using as well as your tuning

[stark quiver]

Are you using either August von parseval or implacable

[viscid swift]

Eldridge should be enough with Shinnao, Haku, and Amagi to if not outright one shot then chunk it down most of the way

[sweet delta]

Do you have at least 203 offense and survival adapt?

[elfin hollow]

This is what I am using, I am missing some ships like edly retro and implacable

[hollow gust]

Swap noshiro for an actual slow and you will probably kill

Eldridge is perfectly fine , or you kick haku for nahkimov

[still nest]

Should I?

[elfin hollow]

What's a good slow

[hollow gust]

Eldridge and Ark Royal works
Implacable best
Nahkimov is good too but you need to drop a vanguard for her enhanced slow

[slow fox]

I've been predicted

[viscid swift]

meh, I'd save for the Hindenburg gun coming in a few months

[storm heron]

yeah drake gun is craftable, hindenburg gun is like craftable in 3 years

[elfin hollow]

should i craft this or nah

[forest palm]

no is the simplest answer

[spring bolt]

ok to craft and +10, good anti medium dps but less universal than 406mle, just don't +13

[elfin hollow]

what does sap ammo type mean

[barren tapir]

semi armor piercing, it has high medium low light/heavy mod

[elfin hollow]

ah

[barren tapir]

oh okay light actually i misremembered. 100/150/50

[forest palm]

you'll rarely use it, and not enough ships effectively use the gun, so it just turns into a gun that you use if you know what you're doing with it

[still nest]

What's this hidenburg gun?

[forest palm]

Prototype Triple 203 SKC

[spring bolt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_203mm_(SKC_Prototype)#Type_0-0

[forest palm]

can't even blame English localization with this one, they just didn't name it proper

though this is a made up gun so that doesn't help either

[slender turtle]

With sandy being in the game for so long and having a UR retrofit, how tf are there not more skins for her lol

[elfin hollow]

cuz shes mid

[storm heron]

ask the devs or the artist, we do not know

[mossy void]

Not really a gameplay question but anyone know what skins were changed with the new update. I know Zwei has

[storm heron]

1. Skins are not related to performance
2. She's not mid

[elfin hollow]

mid as in design wise

[slender turtle]

just wild how saratoga has like 9 skins, and sandy has none lol

[storm heron]

it's subjective

here comes the aurora

[barren tapir]

might have something to do with how saratoga is the face of azur lane in CN (and JP? i don't remember). just a thought.

[eager mulch]

[crisp raven]

alsace. and i believe the 3rd was ting an, but im not 100% on her.

[viscid swift]

it was changed

[mellow cape]

Is the bon voyage enterprise skin ever coming back?

[slender turtle]

i believe that one is in the cruise pass store, no?

[mellow cape]

Yeppp

Oh wait I'm so dumb lol, I didn't check the cruise pass page

[rapid grail]

just wait lol, it'll be in cruise shop in a while

[slender turtle]

i was quite confused for a second there kami XD

[dreamy blade]

if i can start agir should I do that instead of finishing fdg? does agir have coin up?

[ivory pawn]

Finish FDG, Aegir does not have coin up yet.

[mellow cape]

Lmaoo same, I just remembered it today and was asking if it was still in the shop. I'll be home soon to buy it

[ivory pawn]

Aegir coin up soon hopefully. 🤞

[dreamy blade]

ahh ok, what about avp?

[slender turtle]

mad at myself for not buying the NJ swimsuit skin when the black friday thing was out smh

[mellow cape]

It'll be back next summer probably

[dreamy blade]

the biggest scam was them not rerunning musashi l2d skin during her rerun

[storm heron]

ideally you would want avp and fdg both constructed and waiting to be maxed through coins

[slender turtle]

FACTS

[opaque gate]

is roon good?

[storm heron]

yes

[slender turtle]

good early tank until u can get pr4 anchorage

[dreamy blade]

with her new augment she is serviceable but there are better options

[storm heron]

good but not great not amazing

[dreamy blade]

i.e. if your only tank is Portland she is good

[storm heron]

not to mention fp tech

[soft raft]

Currently Agir, Haku, and everything PR5 and above cannot be coined