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still Ammo swap
GODDAMIT, WHY !?!?!
Retiring does not drop your collection%
neither tech stats
The one that give ship model dorm and gem
Also is it the same thing that unlock research requirements?
i already retired something like 180 Ally ships and still have all tech stats/fac
Oke
yeah she's better but ammo swap still sucks
is the tlr collab ships good to use?
Yeah got to be a little ruthless with f2p dock space
All golds are decent, elites are meh like usual
so Roon got a Mob... maybe campaign bosses work as well ... but still cuked hard by ammo swap ... dammit, why in hell they keep that shit
WHY !?!?!
10% damage amp to soothe your soul
eh, her dps is not bad level tbh, same level as newer ib ca like carl
yeah, but she need a HE ammo, and my Desulands its locked with 203/55 and i'm not going to remove a single milimiter from her ...
well, then the issue is actually not enough hind gun lol
she need a HE ammo to get FP buff
and the only 203/55 we have its from Unzen event ... and not going to rerun any soon
w8, no i ENed hard there
what
yeah something is wrong... roon wants hind gun not unzen gun, and it's sanrui wanting an HE
lower raw dps
unless wiki lied to me, drake gun has 50 ish raw
there, SKC its 53 base
234 its 54
please look at dps
DPS with ammo swap ?
for real ?
wut she need its a higher Base dmg, since she going to modify the modifiers...
it's ammo swap, it does not change rof
the only thing that changes on the gun is the ammo/modifier
53x6 7.32 rof
54x6 7.85 rof
same coeff, hind gun simply has more raw dps...
234 attacks half a second slower
in the end with Roon dmg, it will be hardly to notice any diff, aside she is ammo swapper... i beat the diff hardly it will reach 3k, but with variations, hardly to notice
of course in normal conditions, not fights like CM ... specially buffing VGs ...
not sure what are you talking about but CN paper number says roon gets a 55% damage boost, from lower than portland level to good 2023-2024 ca level... nothing compared to rainbows but surely less painful to use
i'm saying about diff with 234/SKC
oh right
cuz 234 can be crafted at will if u have resourcers ...
SKC u need to research, and rn i only got 2, and its with Hindy
234 i got just ... 12 ... and if i wanna i can craft something like another 12 
you have 12 drake guns?
12?!

5 from researchs time
7 crafted after GearLab
ca lover lol
I mean, respect i guess
i think the hull i most have Oaths its CAs, followed by CVs i guess
6 Oathed CAs, with 2 CBs
6 BBs with 1 BBV
5 CVs with 1 CVL
Do the uh 12 Drake guns see regular use
yeah, all them are with my Oathed CAs and others i use or future plan to Oath
pretty much all my Op.Si is CAs/CBs
exceptions to 1 DD and i think 1 CL
w8, i have 8 Oathed CAs, cuz i already Oath with FC and Yorck
Kazagumo and Plymouth I assume?
How is Sanrui gonna compare to the DDGs? Seems like she'll deffo be better but still won't be able to compare to their damage? Buat at least she can actually extend burns now?
no shot maintinance ends in 3 and a half hours damn
id expect sanrui to be completely pathetic
ofc better, unlikely higher than DDGs
On paper mogadorish damage, we'll see
unless the barrage data is cracked as well
its a upgrade, cuz if u put enough gunpowder there its firepower after all

so white part its Roon barrage numbers ?
Jeez I remember using Roon back in the day to carry level 1s through event missions to start levelling them. Haven't used her in so long
yes, first row is shelling, second row is torp, third row is aoa
ic, arigathanx
Roon still used in my op.si, well, she is there, but used its a bit mean since she dont fight a shit for long time

Guess she's throwing the torps at the enemy by hand
why i can see Roon doing that easily?
Well Sanrui barrage does more damage than her AoA
correct!
young girl's everyday items
that's the aug name and icon
is saint aoa anything tho
In practice like 1.5 x more due to reload of the Unzen gun
Have to check pattern, because 1/3 of Saint Louis' AoA already flies to the side and does nearly nothing
May i ask what is business in Polaris that everybody talk about?
Shoes probally
its quite a gud gear for CAs or slowers CLs and yeah, have quite alot of slower CLs
The highheel?
Pami, Avro, and few others older than 20's
yes
Is that a must have item? Strang that a big ship wearing highheel
Next best accessible EVA equip after Rudder and Beaver
not must, if u already lacking of wut to do, already have plenty of ships for 4 fleets in Op.Si and have time avaliable to, its gud to have
u can cover with others gears that will be close to same lvl of use, but hardly it will replace in some ocasions when tank and spd are need
Well, i just research and get at much washing machine at possible
Lower priority than Excaliber, Prowler, CIB, Rudder, Beaver, so not that high (unless you manual, then it's pretty good)
Oh the spd that highheel give, more strange
That's the real strange thing about the equip if anything
Speed is basically Manual/Pvp equip lol
Okay ill keep that in mind, have to grind some gold and combat data in no event week
naaah, too slow can be a harm sometimes, so yeah, Shoes help if u are using Full CA fleet or mix with slower CLs/CAs
"basically"
Yeah some time i saw vanguard move like maniac in pvp, some boss too
Arizona Meta yes
Arizona META 
As i remember, Arizona is battleship right?
Yeah the META fight
And the meta lab decide to make a battleship with high speed...
Saint Louis and Roon augs look disappointing at a glance, the barrages any good?
no dude, when u figthing ArizM u wanna run fast as possible
No the fight required you to have high speed or die to anchor spam
they are decent upgrade in dmg, but nothing to compare to actual meta...
didnt look like anything special unless the pattern is good
Too fast i drift straight to the trap
Okay, thanks guy highheel when i have time
well the other pr1 augs so far were pretty decent... sad
and my roon still keep with shit ammo lock, so yeah i cant agree more with the "disappointing" part
Better than too slow and get stuck in trap (which would happen like 99% of the time)
doubt it will be anything special even if the pattern is good cuz the ships in question is not known for the damage in the first place
they arent know to tanker either

Exactly
huh they finally add ingame maint reminder
Samrui specialises damage against Light, but Roon is in a very weird place of somewhat tanky and somewhat has damage but not a lot
Roon its a between Eugen and Port
do more dmg than port and a bit more of tank, but ton less tanker than Eugen but in other hand a shit ton more of dmg
honestly I didn't expect it to go away since devs fail math and have no idea it's a debuff, but the other augs so far had more ooompf
she is a KMS ship, so yeah, expected to be shit ...
i'm just more concerned about how shit it will be FdG Aug after all
Does Roon fs 5 still viable when i cant fill up 4 opsi fleet?
Roon its pretty much KMS Tech only for FdG
So thats a big No
pretty sure they know, they just rolled the aug gacha and said no to fixing it
FdG probably won't be here for a long while, see how it goes for Monarch first
but maybe that's too much cope 
Too much, KMS is my highes tech fleet
too expensivier, and not really a tanker, maybe Eugen it will do better than Roon with Tanker role in pretty much all situations i can imagine
And other ships does more dmg than Roon
devs have always been kind of tonedeaf when it comes to ammo efficacy
Nah Eugen does like TN damage, so Roon is automatically better by being a tank that actually contributes to the fight
he said tank
the diff between Eugen and Roon Tank its REALLY HUGE
and when its about tank role, i would take Eugen 99.9% of time to not say 100%
Pittsburgh is a tank or off tank? Can she tanking mob in w13 and w14?
Dmg is a huge difference, so does their bulk difference so they should have different roles
Pitts its pretty much a Balty but slight better iirc, so still far from being a tanker, so off tank or mid
not exactly since old CAs cant do dmg role, aside Ibuki in manuel or TRP Focused niche situations
so Roon its a limbo cuz no DMG dealer and not a tanker
Needs more testing but is Possibly better than Agir on paper
pretty much the tankiest ship in the game
In terms of absorbing damage yeah, Roon eHP is slightly lower than Portland, Eugen is like 120%, but better make sure that 20% eHP can return you the damage
the sad reality is at the end of the day you won't use Eugen or Roon outside of memes
Alright
she can do dmg, in meme places
I got anchor, and still focus on PR5 in a long time, so no Agir, any recommend for tank mobfleet in Pr 1 and 2?
Eugen, Portland are the most avaliable for now ... but invest in Eugen depends on how ur Gold Bullins are
Sanrui?
if u still lacking MLB in ur Main ships, is a huge no
if u have some avaliable, its a option, but it will be a investment for something that wont last long
Well i plant to keep sr bullin to gain techfleet
honestly at this point if I wanted something tanky from pr1 I'd take Neptune
hit the same spot as Roon, not exactly a tanker also not exactly a DMG dealer, can fill tank roles for easy content, but they will be bad once need to real tank
will there be new URs?
give it a few weeks
mid/late Dec
Yeah, and i hope it gonna be a tank
Don't bother, unless you need tech from them as well to get Plymouth or something
To get ply mouth, 90 points left
my H-39 CV is comming
saint louis PR1 can be good for mobfleet, its evasion can last the whole sortie
Neptune is a decent mob tank w/ augment
again I'd rather take Nep
work for easy content, but i doubt it will be enough for C4 Abyss or Strongholds
also not a chance for W14 and W15 tanker in mob
This can be a good choice, cus in near future i need vanguard to grind combat data for brest and bayern
I don't think you're gonna be doing them if you're new to the game either way
Saint Louis eHP is like Portland level before evasion buff is gone, so her eHP not that good
the best gun for Saint Louis is unfortunately event locked for now
what is eHP?
That's the biggest problem yeah
efective HP
effective HP
and what is the best saint louis gun? i thought her PR1 gun is good alr
I can do stronghold and normal arbiter atm
Unze Gun
Tri 203/55
unzengun
well, u can of course, but chances of her being killed its quite high if u dont put something real tanker there
Saint Louis's own gun is not that good
is there a better nonevent-locked gun for her?
Youre right, i need to back and forth to repair around 2~3 times before boss
Twin 203 mm Mle/Triple Mk X 203 mm
if no unzen gun you want algerie gun I think, I never checked if the hms lab gun is any good
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_203mm_(BL_8"_Mk_X_Prototype)#Type_0-0 I thought this was the best non-event locked HE CA gun 
is twin 203 algerie gun?
i think the tri 203 from HMS Gear Lab its a upgrade no ?
yeh that's the one I'm not sure
Last time I checked the hms one has bad spread making Algerie gun better in practice
its basically 234 pattern but with HE Ammo
But that was like 2 years ago, I could be wrong 
I believe the guns are a sidegrade to each other because Saint Louis AoA pattern isn't good
algerie gun also has improved shell velocity so i'm assuming that's also a plus for its consistency
the hms he gun has a 22 spread so the accuracy on it is a bit shite
is saint louis bad? cuz i have her at sim5
iirc when its about HE CA Guns its
Unze > HMS 203 Mk X > Alge > idr wut shit is after this, cuz its quite a diff between alge and next
well... just use Neptune 
I guess im gonna dev her now
i would go for Eugen, but ignore me cuz i'm strongly biased here
Algerie gun has 6.19 sec rld compared to 7.23 for triple 203 mm BL Mk X
i thought eugen is bad, is she really bad?
Saint Louis gun is after algerie gun off the top of my head, but pattern
good bulk, pathetic damage
if its about Tank, almost none ships can contest her ...
but her dmg otherwise its really shit
i see, basically tankier portland
portland has higher damage 
alot tankier than port
TN damage, so unless the bulk can give you more damage, then yes
- expensive
Eugen must be top 15 tankier ship in game
how about roon? cuz i wanna have vanguard IBs in case of getting PRs
Chinawall stronk
where is she on eHPchart
if u wanna a gud KMS tanker u have 2 options
Hindy or Hein-Class
Top 30 IIRC
what is eHP chart? where to find it
120% isn't very high
How about Cheshire?
just ping mebot it's linked on sam's
what is VH? zamn i thought azuma was that tanky
There are quite a number of duplicates so actually top 20
VH is a niche aux
VH is best aux on Agir for EX 
Portland level in low AVI damage, Eugen Level in high AVI damage
the CN CLs are considered if paired togheter so its quite unfair
well you'd never use them otherwise 
Ning/Ping is only with Yat Sen, yeh
is azuma sim5 still good though?
good, there are better
so other can take in considerations a 3 ships fleet for them as well ... cuz if u need a whole VG to make all them tanker, why not others can have this ?
they are standout exceptions, thats all
chinawall with shockie
ah well no need to make the augs then
Ibuki still biggest winner for PR1 so far
There is no bias lol
2 IJNs with really strong buffs compared to others, no bias
Oh that lol
honestly I'd rate Nep after Ibuki
i dont think are gud, but usable options
Izumo is good but the competition is bad
AvP
Are you doing 3 CV PvP lol
Oh that
I guess, im nearly finish fs anchor, i need a ship to spend coin
Monarch aug is just waiting for the doomers to call on the hmshate
Unfortunately I think that's fate, I mean look at her story
but yeh with just getting her barrage to 100% would already be a huge boost
Coping for 100% barrage and 100% slow
I think the chances of the aug giving her 100% barrage is fairly good, it's just whether they add any more on to it
Will there be another UR for this year or not again? I forgot.
Aug for monarch ? i would be happy with 100% chance and add extra HE shell in the barrage , wait a sec , she is the only one who doesn't have aug in PR1 ??
Question about Roon ammo switch skill , does it go He to AP and vice versa , or it goes He-> Normal -> Ap ?
very high chance for UR this year
HE > AP
after maintainence, yes
No aug, as per her fate (of abandonment)
we just got roon, give it some time
Roon and Louis..
yes?
Would the next one be Monarch and then a ship from PR2 ?
who knows
Btw , is there a website that showcase ship special barrage ? i tried koumakan but no result .
For which ship?
Non exhaustive list https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Barrage
A barrage, or danmaku is a set of projectiles fired by ships upon triggering either a set number of shots from the Main Gun or by activating a skill. Aside from adding supplementary damage, some barrages may provide debuff effects such as burn, slow, flood, etc. Barrages are affected by 100% Firepower, Torpedo or Airpower stat respectively unles...
Missing quite a few because nobody bothered to upload Gif
that not a few , that more than half is missing GIF 
soon™️
Hmmmm
Random question but...
Who would be better in bosses?
Repulse Meta or Rodney Meta?
(Yes I know there are better options. But, that's the question.)
repulse if light armor
How about Gnei META?
Where to see platform UID?
how is roon and saint louis module
good
what ship is comparable to roon w module
what, saint louis has a module???
was there any cog chip/array in Coin section in the black-friday PT shop ?
didn't even notice that section until I did the survey.
no chip
cool, i didn't miss anything then.
from main menu, click top left on your avatar
you'll see your UID under your name
oh ma gahddd, saint louis has a new modulee
who benefits the most from module? like what specific ship?
I have been scraping for oil, turns out mail has this storage thing, and I still have 10k oil
varies from ship to ship
some really good augment, some really bad augment
is roon w module better than anchorage
ships like saratoga, sandiego, ibuki, izumo are great with their augment
hello guys is matnenece end
man that's a lot of copium to expect Roon to jump that high with an augment
is sanrui module good
yes
Weaker than the other two you mentioned
why is right better than left?
How about Nagato Meta and QETA?
more raw damage when fully upgraded
you'll probably still want to use the french twin over these 2
is that the gearlab RN gun
I dont prefer the MK X over Algerie
higher spread angle is begtter?
higher spread angle is worse
May i ask the name of it
203 mle 1931
it's the one before the triple in gearlab
funnily enough
then isnt saint oouis gun better for saint louis? since it has smaller spread and can trigger AoA quicker?
is there tier list that still get update?
cuz a while ago, gthey said Mk>algerie
yeah on paper
no
and currently unkown when they'll update it again
the gun on the left has very questionable ballistics
zamn, so i just wasted gear lab mats
It's fine on average
well it depends on several factors which one will end up being better
but for sure, is the left better than the right?
since you already made it, it's a little different
You shouldn't have crafted it unless you had it already, it's very expensive
a lesson in resource management
should i just go back to using saint louis gun? or continue with Mk 10
Continue, you already used the materials
so it is stronger?
i'm not aware of anyone that has ran a very thorough test between the 3 guns yet. i'll bother suchi to do it
Saint Louis gun is a pretty noticeable downgrade yeah
okiee, that feels better lol, thabkss
it'll depend on enemy speed/movement
alternatively, you can try to pay a little attention to the numbers she's pulling 
NagatoM okay w/ flag and no IJN comp, QETA weaker.
QEM barrage is single-target oriented, nagato's is AoE
context was for bossing
Does Emden like 2 DD guns on her kit or nah?
depends
cl is for more damage
dd for defensive
in the secondary slot*
Difference is not that large then
Also I think OP is trying to create a full backline META fleet for whatever reason, so probably both QE Meta and Nagato Meta
So, who is the next UR?
no news
like what augs
The new ones, presumably
it's not like the augs are going anywhere
just farm 12-4, and do both
is this a must pick?
It's pretty meh, if you have a good amount of cubes it's still a 30 min research
How many cubes you got
may someone tell me how to check my oil and money reserve? I forgot how to do it ^^"
92
mail menu, left sidebar
Then no
ok
Save cube asap 
thanks 🙂
If you have 400+ cubes, it’s one of the best researches you could ask for
are the augs good?
both decent dps increases for sanrui and roon
PR augs are decent, but Sanrui's was probably more of an improvement than Roon's (Roon still has ammoswap)
wdym
roon's ammo swap makes her dps focus weaker
Hi, I'd like to clear out some of the excess gear I've got. It's not particularly urgent but I still might want to get it done as sometimes I do reach capacity and I really don't want to use gems to expand that storage for a bit.
I'd like to know what is worth keeping (if there's anything that is). Would someone be willing to help me?
at least they buffed her armor mods
roon does have ammo swap, but saint louis needs an HE gun 
we love buffing zrmor mods
ty!
You should never need to expand gear storage. At the most desperate you can load random stuff onto ships in your dock.
Tbf Unzen gun now exists, so it's not like that bad of a debuff, although somewhat of a debuff for semi-new players which don't have Unzen gun but do have Drake gun
i'm shocked that roon's barrage torps actually scale off of her FP and not her TRP
Won't be too different in any case, although it does buff it by like 25%
bludgeoning torps
Are they good and should I use them, if so in a mob or a boss fleet
well roon base TRP is 220 at 125, FP is 289. after you account gear and the FP buff it'll be >500
of course assuming that she's MLB, she can do both
Also you should've gotten Shinano from perma pity exchange instead if you havent already
This was purely from pulling I still can get shinano,
I was doing my daily 3 pulls
dawg why did you do that on Heavy/Special
Plus the event ended like 7 hours ago so no need to do 3
Oh
and ngl even if you werent pulling on event banner, I still would've done 1 light pull per day
i dont know who to train skill lol
new saint louis AoA is good with augment, is faster firing gun better now?
I only did 3 per day because I was trying to save as I was told there might be another ur event
3 per day is not saving
if you were really gonna save, you would've done 1 light
since that only eats 1 cube compared to 3 heavy/special builds eating 6 compared to a daily cube income of technically 4
Golden Darkness, if you're using her.
i do, just max her?
I doubt it's good enough to justify going for a faster gun
not like there's really a 76mm AA equivalent for CA guns afaik
Yes. Also, what is your current fleet? I see un-retroed Portland there.
z23 port helena
uni darkness longislang( will change to yui until i have better)
does eva% include flat bonus from aux, or just the base eva?
Assuming you listed ships in the order left->right, move Portland to the left slot so she is in tank. Work on getting her retroed (and Unicorn especially if you haven't already)
unless the skill says otherwise, it counts gear+tech
yes, middle should be dd right. the softest.
good combo with washing machine?
cuz, saint louis has eva buff for mob fleet, so im wondering if washing machine + this one is good, she also has+spd skill
whoever is the squishiest yes
Which 99% of the time is a DD
toolbox tends to still be better there (heal builds up especially if the battles are on the harder side and last a while, also gets more from unicorn)
okay, thankss
who should I be picking from here?
PvP? Enterprise.
how to move it to storage? just lick move mail?
overall, also I already have enterprise from the shop and I believe hood can also be bough there right?
enty, sandy and hood are all good and still hold up to today
lusty is a niche bote good for certain use cases nowadays, often on later stages.
@iron ridge pvp is a lot worse nowadays than enty was
just claim
okey
claim will auto send to storage
Enterprise > Hood > San Diego == Illustrious
and contrary to what Minsted said, PvP is very irrelevant (and iirc carriers havent been meta in PvP for a long time anyways if you even care to tryhard it)
Oh seems like I was able to get the augments. Am I missing any augments from the recent collab?
those are not the augments
You aren't missing any of the auxillaries at least.
click on Special on the left
Special tab
You've got all the augments too.
It's the Omnitool and all the ones to the left of it.
I only came back for this event.
Has anyone tested how Saint Louis w/aug compares to FS5 Drake?
Give me 1 meta BB I can use as a mobbing flagship to clear HARDMODE 12-4.... I have everyone made me blank on who to use lol
Musashi
Hood or Nelson can easily do it. Anything better than them is just gravy
Musashi is fine for this. Any of the other UR battleships will also have no problems.
Alot of stuff works for W12 as a whole
wait, is the boss light or heavy?
12-4? Both med
Yeah thought so, in the end of the day, my fleet will be kinda overkill anyway 
neat
Guys can I use the same ship in the same fleet?
Like Chang Chun Main Fleet Mode and Chang Chun Vanguard Mode
no
Aww
you cant even have 2 retrofitted chang chun's
Why the fuck would you use the backline mode
Ohh
why not
yeah why not
is this a question towards me saying u cant have 2?
yeah
Technically nothing's stopping you from using dupes of a ship in the same fleet outside of OpSi
But there's basically zero practical justification to raising dupes in the first place
nope
u cant have 2 of the retrofit item
ok mine is for lars
why can't have 2 retrofit
cuz the game doesnt allow u to have 2 of them, if you already own the item or retrofit u cant buy one and rerun copies become a memento
didnt realize that, thought we can buy it from shop
its the same thing as warspite and sandy
its the same for all item retrofits yeah
u literally wont be allowed to buy it if tou already have item or retrofitted
Who should I get
you're right 
just pick up the z for for FP tech
Is musashi or FDG the better mob BB
also holy pogger i got 106k core
musashi by far
Musashi
u think people wont try to get 2 Sandy Kais for w15
Thank you
Musashi
never crossed my mind
saw 2 zwei for w15 tho
zwei 🤢
also this is very good for exp farming 
i used backline mode for taiyuan
Keeping 4 dupes for fleetpowermaxxing
Saint Louis is not bad at all
Is worth to make the new augments for roon and saint Louis?
I have both of them already at max FS
Are you going to be using either Roon or Sanrui? If so, yes.
Well sanrui is pretty awesome for light , roon is okay
Barrage pattern okay for Sanrui?
yeah probably worth getting at least on louis
for current upgraded roon, its no more Ap priority, right? So, would a Drake gun be better for her?
still same i think
Either way both are just fun gimmicks , there are better ships still. Don't see a point of using neither when DDGs are existent
gun with highest raw dmg
oh
Saint really wants unzen gun though 
So Roon's best gun would be Drake now, yes
did drake get aug
No
Actually, looks like rainbow triple 203 SKC should be better DPS.
Which of the meta ships are actually good? Except jintsuu and u-556
All of the golds are "good", but it depends on what you want them to do.
how do you define good?
It also depends on who else you have available for that slot.
idk about the support aspect of f/e helmet but none of the dps ships are 'meta' in endgame afaik 
Jinstuu is perma stuck pvp, and u-556 is a sub 
nagato meta is a high end gold bb if you're new and don't have URs though
but the venn diagram crossover of 'new enough to not have UR bbs' and 'still able to mlb nagato meta' is probably fairly small
since given sashi rerun it must also include 'missed/skipped musashi'
Im thinking more towards CV/CVLs or vanguards as im lacking in thosse
theyre good for tech that's all i know 
I assume Giulio META is collection only?
Oh, she gives hit. Alright fine, I'll work on her.
Can i ask do we have any tier list of ship except github cuz it seem haven't update for a while ._.
can check china's but i don't have the link 
/tierlist check the endgame one then
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Oh tysm
are any of the new mods good?
Thorin pretty good
Out of the set of new augs, who is the most worth to invest in now
depends who u got
well it's gotta be either roon or sanrui because the others are lol
yuubari for funzies
none ?
gud improvments in okaish or bad ships, dosnt make then gud enough to be a thing, and they cost quite high ... so, not reccomended
i read the question as "considering only these augment and these ships who is the best out of them"
Yeahhh I have all but just limited resources to make their augs. Ty for the answer 
Yeah sorry, English isn't my first language
id personally say sanrui if you had the resources and desire to make one of them, she seems like she'd at least be a decent damage CA against light armor if you don't have the high end options 
Can use Sanrui to do vanguard data combat tho
Im using sanrui and tartu to grinding gold, along with xp for brest
I seee
as of rn I'm using ibuki. I was excited wondering if any of the older prs had ibuki level clears loll
the cost isnt as prohibitive either currently given the current event
but of course, for anything not meta it is always gonna just be 'if you like her' or 'for fun'
but can probably say the ranking is gonna be like sanrui >= roon >>>> yuubari/houshou >>>>> bogue
sanrui genuinely good on light just overshadowed by stuff like ddgs
roon overall good but overshadowed in general
yuubari and houshou have exp skills which gives them at least a potential small niche if you somehow have more cogs than exp. and then their augment will be a nice upgrade if you like using them for that, and beyond.
bogue has no use and not even useful tech so she is last to me
could actually flip roon and sanrui for new players though, since roon provides fdg tech and is now actually good to use until they have more than 1 better tank (bc opsi)
the xp skills is only good if they themselves also need xp otherwise they steal more than they provide
I like using bogue for farming blueprint ships, at least the ones that need EU exp, as she's dirt cheap.
Is he farming outside oil cap
dont pr grind before oilcap
and if ure post oilcap cost doesnt matter
Oil cap is bugged for me, sometimes it cost more at complete random
wdym
oilcap is capped
the only way the cost varies is if ure using fleets that are below the cap
or subs
Or go C to "save oil" 
It's either a ui bug, oil cap bug, or something else. Example with the love ru event, it says 480 oil but when I checked, I used 490 or 470. It's really wierd. Already made a report before you ask.
Are new augments good?
hey if you like her use her if you want but cheapness is irrelevant in most cases due to oilcap
even if that happened its such a minor diff i wouldnt care lmao
hey i am farming for ark royal (hms point) 
It matters to me because I have ocd, lol
Smaller numbers with cost always make me happy.
Lower can happen if your fleet dies off
would have to be enough ships dying to go below oilcap which is terrible...
ure missing on a ton of clearing rewards
are you sure ur pathing just didnt fight an extra node ?
i mean...same
i hoard my oil like a dragon hoards gold
but going below oil cap is rarely worth it
That might actually be it. I usually auto and sometimes it takes a wierd path.
do ambushes cost oil
yes
bro might have gotten ambushed a few times then
they said auto search...
also you are in clearing mode for oil cap. ambushes dont exist in clearing mode
Ambushes in an event map? 
1 last thing before I have to go, tips for world 14 and 15? Just finished 13 after neglecting main campaign for so long.
W15 fleets can be used for W14 (do /w15 in #bot-spam )
The other way around doesnt work as well
W15 is particuarlly infamous for being basically a love child between W13 and W14

raise a good submarine fleet, it'll help you clear the final mob nodes and the boss node/s for both w14 and 15
how tf do you change fleet in opsi?
i mean not like fleet but the ships you have in formation
it put me some random shi i dont want
go to blue port, click order on mini map (top right ish), fleet formation, select ships click obvious confirmation button, thank me
amazing arrow
hats off to the dedication
thanks
Magnificent gif
How much time I have left before event goes awayy
Its gone
you're already too late
Wait fr?
To love ru event is over
Fr? How late am I? I couldn't log on yesterday and todya
it's to lover (ru)
It ended roughly 11.75 hours ago
Fook
The event shop and milestone rewards is up for the next week like usual
Duck this shit my so much ducking pain
Could I make a thread and someone help me build team for W14?
You can swear without censoring its fine
Fuck this shit
sure, but I won't have time right now
What did you miss out on lol
does he know
he knows now
Can just answer when U free
now he knows
Like it's fucking annoying I was like 3 or 2 accessories left to get and two characters
ok
unfortunate
When rerun?
potentially never
Never probably
likely never
Help with w14
dont know collab reruns are unconfirmed until devs announce it
Same stuff happened during Senran
But will it have one that's my questions?
we don’t kno
how would we know
Collabs rarely re-run at all, and scheduling on that would be at the whims of the devs of the game and the company it was a collab with.
divine prophecy
Like the old collabs did they ever rerun
ok hold on let me whip out the ouija board
my divine prophecy gives it a 27% chance of rerunning in 2026
Nah me good
and reduce that chance by half for every subsequent year
Hmm
There's never been a rerun of Kizuna or Project Neptunia, which were from the first year of the game...
(i am literally bullshitting btw)
We can see
only collabs that have rerun were DoA and gridman
Bruhhh
i do think tlr has a nonzero chance of rerun because they skipped some girls but its still gonna be close to 0, since only venus and gridman reran out of all collabs
Fuc

is next event ur?
maybe
we don't actually know but it's possible
After 2 continues event it's good to finally have a rest
We've had a UR event every mid-late december since UvH, so probably.
My guess is week long break, week long prelude, then event start on 19th.
We know that for certain, since JP conirmed it... (the time, not UR)
musashi needs flag for barrage right?
"needs" no, but it helps because otherwise her swordslam wave goes at the very top or bottom of the screen and isn't likely to hit. The lightning bolts are the same regardless.
how many days are there left for the 10x time skip for skill book?
if dint end, probally one more week
Is satalin deviluke good?
hi! I have Monarch, Roon, Saint Louis, FdG and AugustVP should I get a new ship?
from pr research?
basically the rest of PR4 (besides Marco), Plymouth, Shimanto, and Brest for high priority picks
then afterwards you can work on whoever you want
should I do PR4 first?
are the 6 lala inventions aux gear good? 
what are non coinable ships? PR7?
pr5-7, DR4-7
Agir, Haku, and all of PR5-7 including the DRs
So Agir will be hard to make work
U can check there is a coin icon on their blueprints in shipyard
not really if you get the PR4 PRs to FS5
which is the one case you'd bother with Marco Polo
Is Hood a good unit?
Yes
Especially after you get her unique augment
how do I get that?
average at best
Good early game BB and potentially easily accessible
Later on there are many better options
MLB her first then click the circle thing next to her gear slots
I assume LB is limit break what does the M stand for?
max
oh okay thank you
should I do war archive?
only divergent chessboard for iron blood tech if needed
aviod it if you don't need anything from it
If you want ships for collection, or special items such as Cosmic Kicks. I haven't done it since it was introduced
jda is a good unit but only for late campaign so postpone till w14
and now there's eld 
what are cosmic kicks
How are the xp and coin gains in sp5 of polaris compared to 12-1
yea but eld retro is limited
(If you have her retrofit item, of course lol)
iirc roughly the same as typical event maps
So IE roughly W10-11 levels
retro event rerun is not as bad as normal events, which is a good thing
ignorable gear
So I just started so can i get some tips on getting cool characters?
giving that a read would be a good place to start
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
Guys how much money should I spend on coinup for FDR daily? Cuz after the 50% discount it starts getting real expensive
7.2k, so 10 BP
yea like 6-10
depends on ur income
as long as you dont sacrifice progression its good
10 BPs for both PR and DR ships is generally considered the reccomended amount per day
Whats the best CL gun to get besides Plymouths gun ?
155 kai
Even just adding 5 more can substantially bump the total cost despite the saved days
the cost literally doubled, but hey they say time is money(coin) 
Do we have any clue on if or when agir will get her fs? Should i keep her bps for her potential fs in the future or should i analyze them all?
There's no PTO in azulen
Is the UR Ca gun worth the materials ?
get the copy from protocore shop later
save the T3 ordnances
we should get a gearlab update soon
I can get 80 T3s in 10 seconds
I would say average is 1 T3 + 10-15 T2 for each month
Bruh
duh
Fortunately there's a sheet you can use for estimating your monthly gear lab income at suchiguma dot GitHub dot io
I shouldn’t have crafted that drake gun
I’m down to 3 t3s
Don't worry I'm down to 0 from that wyvern
you're gonna be like what, late a month on the third tenrai
I want more plyguns
Also tenrai
Should I get a tenth tenrai?
Why do you even have 9 to begin with
I don't
probably went back to pr4 after finishing stuffs with pr6
Is nakh a game breaking ship in like endgame
No
Cool
Ima get the last 87 bps for her , 2nd la9, then third plygun, and then third tenrai
2nd la9 
How long should 87 bps take, I only take the lowest time Gs and her face
in current state, i can't even find a place to use nakh... not like she's unusable, but too lazy for optimization as she would have similar effectiveness or only very small improvement to my current setups
I’m out of resources in opsi, so I guess I’m gonna start maxing out on rigging research
If I have not a single pr season done, would gear focus be hard
depends on rng but you can expect at least 10 bps per day on average if nakh is the only one left
Nakh, Napoli and bayard are left
I cba to finish the other 2
well that will take longer then...
Sadly yea, it’s just finish nakh, then full gear focus
it will be much more rng and very hard to predict... expect 15-30 days i guess
Im about where you're at rn loll. I gave myself a 2 month generous estimate
I'm still hyper focused for gear
I took a month or two off pr7 for the pr6 gun
I want 5 la 9s
2/5
You honestly dont need that many for most purposes
on average I have like 3 of each UR gear
max you'll need is 4 for now
You never know when they'll release more ur CVs with 2 fighter slots or even 3
^ extra insurance for power creep loll
hence the 4 now
and then the 5 eventually
eventually 15
only 15?
Plus nothing else to focus on for the next 6-7 months
or maybe 30 when a fleet can consist of 6 cv with full fighter slots
think big, let's sort with la-9 directly, who needs ships 

Is the Skyraider a UR fighter?
UR dive bomber
UR Dive Bomber that has rockets
Yk2 event shop exclusive gear
And speaking of Skyraider, I wonder if there's gonna be a use for a 2nd one in OpSi/Syncing setups lol
This is my ur situation rn, after pr7 which other pr should I do
7
after 2nd la9
7 again
lol
i have no lab resources, so if i want anything else, id need to go do researches
i dont see any research gear more usefull there than a 3rd la9
Not even tenrai?
no
3rd tenrai vs 3rd la-9, easy win for la-9
3.64 for me
Just get more gear lab mats
you'll only ever actually use maybe 2 Tenrai at a given time, especially if you get ahold of a Skyraider 
Tenrai gonna be added to gear lab fairly soon as well
You always have to use tokens for expansion for the dorm right?
yes
I thought so thanks
what about me, this ir my ur situation rn, hinden gun on 38/50. Should I keep doing the hinden gun or move to la9?
Gems are the new UR
wrong image
Completely skipped first run of yk2 so best I’ll have 1 sky raider
Special UR equipment for Akashi: 
if I had another tenrai I would be 100% one shotting nagato meta
I doubt that...
You don’t need another tenrai for that
buy 12 copies on january
keep focus on La9
if you finish the last La9 after May 1st go for another hinden gun imo since u wont probably finish another La9 before pr8 anyway
Do you think it's better to finish pr8 first when it does comes before going back to PR7 for gear?
pr8 gear will be ur aa gun so no
I mean I cant see the future 
but if u are caught up with previous seasons and the new gear is decent always good to get a few copies and focus new season
depends on a lot of things
Thoughts on Yamashiro META?
we don't even know what's on pr8 yet
raise her for tech only
+1 RLD tech at 120. cute
not rly good otherwise
Yeah fair, I forget how far you get behind in pr researching when you take breaks loll
I just got her because she looks good probably not going to play her
Well, here's to hoping pr8 gear is mid
I'd rather not PR6, and PR7 are already disappointing enough as is 
^
especially PR6
why is La9 disappointing 
it isn't it's the other stuff
oh I see 
like outside of the Mod VIT, and La-9 PR7 gear is useless
The Musashi gun too no?
*Daisen gun
And that's only for Musashi to use due to her limited gun options
a one off use does not make a gun good
it's tolerated because it's the most acceptable gun for a ship such as Musashi
not that I'm aware of
with clearing mode on, all 3 attempts dont cost much total oil anyways
why skip UR AA gun with 20 hit?
whats the effective tuning for opsi again?
203/203/156
the same reason I don't use the AFCT
thx taz
the other 2 don't much matter if you hit the first 
How much better does Roon get with her new augment?
you can do most content in ops with 150/150/xxx btw
pretty sure 0/0/0 is viable
It is with good enough fleets
at least for some harby
Anything I should chnage ? This is for opsi
purple 410mm for main gun, and a minor increase from haz to staag
Throw out the autoloader for a fcr/black shell
Staag aa gun
Ijn main gun
Okay im assuming the 410 syncs without and auto loader then ?
Syncs with what
And for what
Bb boss fleet
this good is enough for c6 apparently
it doesnt sync with much at all
Use the ap gold ijn gun
I'll craft one asap then
Is it better to use the UR gun from the violet event or the purple gear labs gun for mushashi?
You can also use the daisen gun from pr7 if ur there
Triple 410 for syncing with Helena
Twin 410 or the Pr7 BB gun for mobbing
460 basically remains benched 99% of the time, Musashi herself is already quite slow (Compared to other UR BBs) in the first place
And give her some aug, even the blue ones are better than leaving the slot empty.
Ah makes sense, I’ll probably just put my 460 on izumo or something then, thanks!
doubt that musashi is slow, what's the rld order anyways?
Musashi is slow tho
musashi is pretty slow, shes the last one to fire on my bb boss fleet
I have her oathed and only at 161 rld
vanguard > soyuz > bz > musashi > alsace
On pr4 need dev 30 Haku still
Most UR BBs have roughly 170-178 RLD stat
Musashi has the lowest among them with roughly 156
technically if you include kear then she's got roughly 155 RLD
Musashi is not faster than Alsace
Even with the 10% rld buff she’s still not faster
well that's pretty slow 
Fdg only has 159 too
odd even
Soyuz>bz?

Just cause im fairly new, trying to understand reruns, we shouldnt expect unzen to be back for like another year?
The other bb don't really matter because they are flexagunarians. The issue is musashi is stuck with 410's
I forgot, does this game have the power saver mode for autobattle
pretty much
no concrete date mentioned yet, and dont expect there to be one until stated otherwise by the devs
Auto search xxx. Whether it actually helps 
Ty for that info! Would be sick to be able to get implacable since I wasnt playing when she came out!
do strong holds have a specific pattern, like Heavy + light bosses or just one armor?
it's like 3 bosses so the armor type is random


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/ban 1313574198806974550
rob064868#0 got banned.
Damn lmao
Hey question does auzr do rerun
Reruns for collabs or reruns for URs?
yes
Ur rerun yes
collabs unlikely
event
what happened here?
collabration events are unlikely to rerun
normal Azur Lane events are gonna rerun, only some have not
sad, I didn't get one of the collab units so I guess I never will 
given how tlr is, rerun is very 
How recent was Amagi CV?
Very
like the most recent UR
around 2-3 months ago
I'm just mega boned for Amagi CV.
I'll cope with hakuryuu
By the time she comes back hakuryuu will probably get an augment lmao
UR augment 
the ships girls is gone or they are still in the game
especailly when there's 0 UR augment at this point, might as well be a very wild spec
Bulin
Who?
If you mean the collab units you cannot get them anymore (Except Momo if you have enough event points and ig Yui if you have enough event points)
if you didnt get the latest collab event characters, theyre gone
Just have 9 devillukes stored in your build q
does sandys count
But the skins...
it is pay to win
Sandy counts and also ur bulin lol
azure lane is the most niap game in existence lol
what are you saying?
I got momo again
just a reminder that you can store all the collab characters in the finished queue
Except best girl
who?
they are op ol
Yui obvyuisly
smh
theyre bad
Me all I have
Which war archive is good to farm?
well what stage of the game are you at
Pretty much the end
do you have the 4 sword around her
chessboard, jda, cosmic kicks
he said pretty much the end so im leaning to ignore WA
what does the end mean tho
like w15 done?
Didn't do it cuz lazy, but i could
cos honestly at that point u can say some ship for collection if they arent accessible in other ways (idk tho)
wrong
wdym wrong we dont know their fleets
we?
ok i at least do not know
from: pxzitep in: gameplay-help
i see a lot of URs
Then wdym wrong 
do you know when is the event ?
19th i think
what event are you talking about, if it's the next event it would be in 2 weeks
dead week, CtA, eventussy
"the event"
I literally see enough rainbows to have a chiller time in w15
You can't spell Campaign without Pain
they didn't show equips
yeah like im confused lol i dont know w15 very well but i see sandy, laffey2, guam, and i think musashi plus other rainbows?
like on paper they have a chance at least, doesnt mean they can guarantee do it but not smth id immediately say 'wrong' to


Good equips, not the best, that's why i ask about war archives
time to start gaming
Nah wa is mostly for ship tech
WA not the place for gear
jda for collection, and cosmic kicks
how cope is it to farm mirror involution for rudder prints in dead weeks
Laffey 2 rerun when
not for at least another year
Idk whether to farm war archives or campaign now
campaign is most likely better unless you're rushing fdg
Do you need something from WA?
yes —-> farm WA
no —-> campaign
—-> 
one more question . How is hard is it to get a ur
Campaign it is
easy
Atleast have 100 cubes and the coins to fund it
it's subjective, but imo very hard due to the coins and cubes
Easy if you have 400 cubes and 300k coins
I haven't missed a single UR except for first Shinano, and i got her in rerun
easy if you're lucky it's just 2 cubes and 1500 coin 
im new and musashi rerun was my first ur. imo it really wasnt hard as long as you are using all your oil basically for coins, and I wasnt even at W10 yet so gold farm wasnt good. only had to use like 180 cubes tho
Lol I have redo all of the mission anyway
Its always RNG due to the game being a Gacha based,
Better to use your cubes on a UR event rather than on the UR perma Pool,
Well UR Perma pool does not count pulls from UR event anyway
Only UR i missed are from when I quit
moving from that is there anything i can do to improve my rudder aquisition rate beyond just taking Qs whenever i see them 
farming mirror involution
how many rudders do you even need
depends
talk to you guys soon and thanks for information
2 more than 0 just use whatever you have
The event auxes, the blue washers and camos
shouldn't that be fine? plus beaver and cosmic kicks and the prowler or something? I would just chill in 12-4 because I am just a chill guy

The usual to have is 6 of em, unless you need more...
Its dead week so I hope you get some
every series gives rudder
Where can I farm Agir and Anchorage equipments
you can get rudders from research







