gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

and much better AA

[tranquil rock]

oh

also how good is le terrible

[storm heron]

laffey tex pffft

[tranquil rock]

is she the terrible

[sweet delta]

I use laffii to 1:1 the collab EX map on auto

[slow fox]

Probably got the 33/33/33 from my W15 assumptions :mutsuki:

[storm heron]

what this

[barren tapir]

oh was that just for the fancy calc?

[slow fox]

As in, the calc is fancy, or the Fancy calc?

[barren tapir]

the Fancy calc

[tranquil rock]

where do you think she would be then

[slow fox]

Bulletmining

[stark quiver]

Is the strat for ur warspite cm fleet to catch the first blinding light so fleet gets synced with the rest

[barren tapir]

tho then if 116 is realistic idk why sandy isnt soft recommended as a tank

[slow fox]

People are gatekeeping "tank" for like 140+ or something idk

[sweet delta]

That's the strat for BB or Unzen yes

[slow fox]

This was for OpSi bullet distribution

[stark quiver]

Thanks
I’ve been dodging it using subs, I’ll try it without

[tranquil rock]

also sam says that laffii is dmg oriented
but is she more tank oriented instead

[sweet delta]

She is dmgtankaa oriented

[slow fox]

She's not oriented!?!?

[stark quiver]

She’s the jack of all trades

[tranquil rock]

all 3 oriented
real

[zinc cave]

If we're talking what role Laffey II competes for its more tank oriented, but she's basically THE generalist DD

[tranquil rock]

oh ok

[storm heron]

nah she is master of all DD

[barren tapir]

is she reoriented or lost

[storm heron]

jack of no trades, master of all

[mellow cape]

She's really nice to buff my CV fleet lol, I use her in conjunction with Kazu and Sirius for my op si fleet

[barren tapir]

well except for dmg i dont think she is top, but she is near top

[zinc cave]

I just the read samvaluation for Laffey2, bit of a misleading opening statement ngl

[viscid swift]

if I'm being completely honest because I haven't used her enough in such a role to know how stable she is at it

[slow fox]

Do you think that's because there's already a plethora of 130+ ships that you'd rather use in tank slots, that Sandy Tank doesn't even come to mind?

[barren tapir]

yeah that's fair, and she has more variance than something like a CA/CB

it's just funny cos it's higher than a good number of midrange tanks

[sharp socket]

sandy does not tank good enough for hiryuuM, use that how you will i guess

[barren tapir]

sandy drake level tank

[sweet delta]

Does ply tank hiryuum good?

[zinc cave]

yeah easily

[viscid swift]

that and I also get flashbacks to shit like Jervis and Yet Sen i.e. evasion tanks
something I wouldn't necessarily trust on bosses but on tougher mobs sure

[sharp socket]

good enough yes

[barren tapir]

but yeah drake isnt exactly a good standard for tanking so

[sharp socket]

only dies at 0:05 or something, else lives

[barren tapir]

THE NUMBERS LIED

ply is 104 lol

[storm heron]

lol

[sweet delta]

@slow fox spreading misinfo

[quartz jungle]

Laffey II is very good CV buffer for a YorkII Kearsarge fleet yeah

[slow fox]

what

[sharp socket]

sandy die all 3 times i tried her main tank for hiryuuM

[storm heron]

me when sandy is more tanky than ply

[sharp socket]

ply lives 4/5 times

[zinc cave]

do you consider smokescreen in ehp?

[quartz jungle]

Sandy is skewed towards area with high AVI damage no?

[slow fox]

Yes. There are very few things that aren't modelled.

[zinc cave]

[barren tapir]

could be rng cos like, sandy is much more of an evasion/rng tank, she has less hp but very high lck and slightly higher eva

[sweet delta]

But the META column says sandy 106% and ply 112%

[stark quiver]

w8 so when to spawn subs

[slow fox]

Legendary Context Inserter™️

[slow fox]

2nd column mentioned

[sweet delta]

But how come 6% difference make that

[barren tapir]

oh i know, does hiryuu meta spawn planes

[zinc cave]

a little, basically nothing though

[barren tapir]

if she does, then i dont know. if she doesnt, then it's because sandy lacks -15% DR

[barren tapir]

might be low uptime on -15% DR then

[barren tapir]

oh yeah i only looked at overall makes sense then

[sharp socket]

i can run sandy main tank a little more but then ill gimp my oneshots

[barren tapir]

that's what i thought but apparently not(?)

but yeah sandy is noticeably squishier in meta/challenge compared to arbiter/abyssal/strongohld

[slow fox]

:mutsukithink:

Enough for 6% difference in eHP?

[slow fox]

Comparator mentioned

[barren tapir]

idk how to read that

[sharp socket]

what happened in conductor III AVI

[storm heron]

wtf is a conductor

[slow fox]

(It's only AVI damage)

[zinc cave]

basically plymouth +30% across the board except against strategist/conductor

[barren tapir]

oh nvm i see

[sharp socket]

ah ic

[barren tapir]

tho how does 1 sandy W make sandy overall higher, tf

[zinc cave]

average

[slow fox]

Note the gear is different, too.

[sharp socket]

so ply is better for ehp or damage

[slow fox]

eHP3 assumes Toolkit + Rudder on both.

[sharp socket]

oh that one is ehp

[barren tapir]

wait so cv abyssal/stronghold really do do 100% avi dmg?

[slow fox]

No they don't.

[ebon marten]

Where do i get enterprise from? Is it gacha?

[barren tapir]

also i noticed neptune is 130%+ in meta fight have i been sleeping on her

[zinc cave]

Do not use Requisition btw

[storm heron]

so in summary ply more tanky than sd, unless we are fighting strategist or conductor than sd > ply

[sweet delta]

Idk where you've been sleeping

[barren tapir]

i dont get how the averages work

[ebon marten]

Thx

[barren tapir]

ive been using portland

[sweet delta]

Neptune and fancy are more relatively tankier the weaker the enemy is, and I don't think (new) metas are weak

[barren tapir]

idk i dont understand this thingy anymore haha

[sharp socket]

neptune ehp is not bad is what that means

[storm heron]

neptune is just tanky

[barren tapir]

better than portland ?

[storm heron]

by a long shot

[sharp socket]

good ehp is +20%, great ehp +40%, amazing ehp +60% is how i read that

[barren tapir]

so yeah relatively she is strong in meta fight

maybe she can survive on auto without uni unlike portland

[storm heron]

I see

[zinc cave]

Is the META column just calculating against Repulse META?

[storm heron]

It's very interesting how you can get away with lower ehp in harder content like meta showdown

[sharp socket]

meta fight is short, so they can use their full hp pool

[zinc cave]

I would take META eHP with a grain of salt I think

All the relevant META stats im finding list Repulse META as the enemy

[storm heron]

[zinc cave]

Unless she's just a good benchmark for whatever reason

[storm heron]

repulse meta has very high vang pressure right

[zinc cave]

iirc yeah

[viscid swift]

potentially

depends on how many cycles you get through and how fast

[storm heron]

not harby strength level though for sure

[zinc cave]

oh yeah definitely, just checked some recordings of the fight

jesus that fight was some crazy stuff

[hollow gust]

I Plymouthed my way through

[zinc cave]

not a bad benchmark then ig

[zinc cave]

in case you missed my followup msg, dont use Medal Requisition at all.

[tight helm]

hi I am new and my game glitch and I lost everything

[zinc cave]

Was your account connected to anything?

i.e. Facebook, X (formerly Twitter), Yostar account?

[tight helm]

x

[mellow cape]

You can rebind using Twitter

[storm heron]

twitter still bindable?

[slow fox]

Against all METAs up to uhhhhh

Not the current one

[zinc cave]

Have you tried logging in/rebinding through X?

[slow fox]

Including Nagato

[storm heron]

current one is nagato right

[slow fox]

Oh. Then it's including all META.

[zinc cave]

yeah.

[tranquil rock]

ye

[stark quiver]

didnt even update to X
based manjuu

[zinc cave]

Works for me ig

[storm heron]

what comes after magat?

[slow fox]

Mutsu META

[barren tapir]

wait really

[tranquil rock]

r u fr

[storm heron]

no way right lol

[slow fox]

Don't trust me on anything except eHP

[zinc cave]

Yes no info yet

[storm heron]

mutsu is so nice, no way mutsu evil exist

[barren tapir]

just like chatgpt

nagato is nice too wtf do you mean

[tranquil rock]

lmao

[tight helm]

well I did something stupid and didn't set up accounts

[zinc cave]

do you remember ur UID

[stark quiver]

i dont think anyone does

[tight helm]

yup

[barren tapir]

we have uids?

where/how do i even see mine

[slow fox]

Total eHP: Average all the other eHPs.

3 STD: Variance.

Challenge eHP: Averaged eHP of all Challenege modes.

META eHP: Averaged eHP of all META modes.

Arbiter eHP: Averaged eHP of Arbiter modes.

Abyssal eHP: Averaged eHP of Abyssal modes.

Stronghold eHP: Averaged eHP of Stronghold Boss modes.

[stark quiver]

15k 🎊
btw cheeky whats the name context

[barren tapir]

oh i am dumb ive seen that screen many times

[zinc cave]

actually, are you logging into the right server

[viscid swift]

just a joke on the ever-increasing number of ships in AL with the same name that aren't alts

[storm heron]

#gameplay-help message

[slow fox]

Higher level than me smh

[tight helm]

I think so

[zinc cave]

double check

[sweet delta]

Kids these days have such high attacks:commissions ratio

[zinc cave]

i thought i lost my acc before but it was just the wrong server so fingers crossed here maybe

[slow fox]

delusional

[barren tapir]

is this an oilcap reference

[slow fox]

Also better auto reference

[storm heron]

wdym, mine's 63381:10332

[weary gust]

I think it might be a "in my day we didn't have auto repeat"

[viscid swift]

or auto search

[barren tapir]

unplayable

[viscid swift]

yeah auto search only dropped in early 2021

[barren tapir]

since we're sharing here is mine too

[stark quiver]

kids these days and their UR ships

[sweet delta]

Back in my day there wasnt auto search B1

[slow fox]

Kids these days have collection less than 90%

[sharp socket]

0% winrate

[storm heron]

12:1 for attack: commission is crazy

[mellow cape]

0%?

[barren tapir]

idk how that happens tbh

[storm heron]

ALSO WHAT 100%

[gray sphinx]

I think I was at 66.6%

[slow fox]

:mutsuki:

[barren tapir]

does attack count opsi by any chance? i'd assume no cos the ship:attack ratio is always 2:3

so idk why my comms is low

[weary gust]

Comms are time gated

[slow fox]

Attack is soul gated

[stark quiver]

smh not waking up midnight to do comms

[storm heron]

smh living in a place where you can't do midnight comms and then sleep

[weary gust]

I've got 32k comms after 4? years. So 32k/48 = ~666 a month, how old is your account, two months?

[mellow cape]

Well I think my gridman op si mobbing fleet is getting outdated, any recs for a modern mobbing op si fleet?

[barren tapir]

2.5 or so

[slow fox]

Epic math

[barren tapir]

tlr opsi mobbing fleet

[sharp socket]

what rainbows do you have

[storm heron]

just plug in rainbows

[mellow cape]

Uhh one sec

[junior walrus]

Promise rings are whale territory? Pretty minor gain for the cost?

[zinc cave]

yep

[sharp socket]

ring your waifus not meta, unless your waifus are also meta

[weary gust]

You'll get 1-2 free a year. If you're f2p, oath your favorite characters.

[junior walrus]

I ringed unicorn lol

[storm heron]

me ringing sandy

[junior walrus]

Haven’t found the real waifu yet just know she’s early game meta so

[ebon marten]

Do i use these to upgrade Anchorage or do i get another ship?

[slow fox]

me ringing the police

on y'all

[sharp socket]

no

[storm heron]

but uni oath skin exist though, so legal

[sharp socket]

coin anchorage instead

[storm heron]

actually canon too

[junior walrus]

Wtf y’all talking about legal

[sharp socket]

dont worry about it

[ebon marten]

Ah so use these to unlock another ship then? Or save it?

[viscid swift]

yes use the PR4 ones to get her to dev 30

[sweet delta]

Dev 30 anchorage yes

[slow fox]

*but don't use those on Anchorage

[sharp socket]

are those pr4 prints?

[hardy citrus]

kinda off topic but i looked in the cruise pass and saw this
whats this??

[ebon marten]

Yes

[viscid swift]

they bought some vocuhers

[storm heron]

that's the new grass UI

[zinc cave]

Didn't you guys talk about analyzing the blueprints and just coining PR4? I dont recall specifically

[stark quiver]

battle ui
new

[zinc cave]

changes the battle UI

[sharp socket]

oh thats a thing

[hardy citrus]

ohh

[storm heron]

yes we did, we actually debating on pr5 vs pr4 yesterdaay

[viscid swift]

not really, we still reccomend burning PR4 catchup on the ships

[storm heron]

sam definitely not us

[viscid swift]

PR4 is just better than PR5 even after it get's retired for a new player to start focusing on

[storm heron]

ikr

[sharp socket]

sam is predicting ahead of time considering it takes a couple months to finish a season

[storm heron]

#gameplay-help message

[zinc cave]

Well make sure you inform the guy of the reasoning

[viscid swift]

I'm sill waiting on his essay in response to that actually

[storm heron]

umi is also making a response

with the reasoning (from the gear side) being protocore and ordnance more easily obtainable so use em instead of researching

[sharp socket]

i kind of understand what he means but i dont know how not having anchorage/agir/avp ready earlier would affect progression

[viscid swift]

well you're lack a full root and granted you'd still have 2 tanks in Brest and Anchorage if you did PR5 but you're also lacking all the gear from 4

[sharp socket]

given that the tanks are basically core to w14 if you dont happen to get UR(s) that gives you what you need

[stark quiver]

what planes do i run on cvs in opsi mob

[ebon marten]

Feels like is gonna take a while for me to get agir ngl lol

[zinc cave]

What's your gear situation like

[viscid swift]

they're new new, like not even one fleet fully MLB yet

[ebon marten]

I just started like a 3 days ago

[barren tapir]

i believe optimal progression is pr4 and dont give a fuck is pr5

[ebon marten]

Yup

[sharp socket]

pr4 has best gear still, pr5 just plygun and harbin gun

[barren tapir]

devs cooked with pr4

[zinc cave]

agree

[eternal moth]

Agreed, best full season of ships ever

[storm heron]

harbin gun is probably not even that useful since tash gun can be obtained more quickly now, and twin 100 from 1204 for transition

[barren tapir]

tash gun from where?

[sharp socket]

bf109 like the only light plane, saiun kai good, AA gun good, CB gun, SAP gun found in a ditch, and then tenrai best DB

skyraider is event limited and only better for 1 armor type

[barren tapir]

i'm already at over 2 harbin guns, for whatever that's worth. it wasnt rlly super impactful since twin128 exists, but they're nice

[viscid swift]

2

[storm heron]

also where were you pro prIV peeps when riceist needs help

[sweet delta]

But doing pr4 focus isn't going to give an extra tenrai

[sharp socket]

skyraider is 2?

[viscid swift]

the idea isn't to get an extra tenrai but to get 2 more practically and quicker

[sweet delta]

When aegir and haku get coining, the ships will be done way faster than tenrai

[zinc cave]

watching the rants was more fun than participating

[storm heron]

core shop

[sharp socket]

i remember the goose argument that tenrai is better to +13 over skyraider

[stark quiver]

?

[barren tapir]

why the fuck would you waste core data on that

[viscid swift]

I'm thinking of reccing gear focus and not ship focus as the priority for 4

actually works out rather nicely

[storm heron]

ideally you want a mix of rocket, bombs, and torp

[sweet delta]

We always rec gear focus for new players already, but they still take like 4 months for a tenrai somewhow

[ebon marten]

Well perseus is 6 stars now

[zinc cave]

we use rockets in mob?

[viscid swift]

we do?

[sweet delta]

Well maybe I rec gear but Sam guide recs ship so they end up doing ship

[storm heron]

you dont have spearfish or bfgs?

[sharp socket]

it takes me over 3 months and im still not gotten 1 plygun, but have brest, ply and harbin d30/fs5

[viscid swift]

yeah that sounds more like it

[sharp socket]

the UR gear is entirely rng

[storm heron]

so is a lot of stuff, but we have the estimation

[sharp socket]

the estimation works until it doesnt

[barren tapir]

rng can fuck you over but there is an average trend line

[zinc cave]

technically there's a niche in opsiren for single target but i dont see why you would for general opsi mobbing

[stark quiver]

im running
uni, indep , formi U

[sweet delta]

The question is specifically opsi mobbing

[stark quiver]

i need some ideas

[sharp socket]

faer is holding back the line by getting la9 in 2 months

[barren tapir]

tho fr, core data for tash gun is like a pretty bad idea imo

[stark quiver]

no hvars and spearfish

[storm heron]

opsi mobbing problem is the elites which takes longer to kill than the trash which dies in like one cb/ca salvo

[mellow cape]

Well this is op si, it's what I've been running for the past year mobbing wise and my boss fleet changes. I want a mob fleet that can auto everything except the arbiter. Is that possible?

[sweet delta]

Ancient strats like from 2022-23 were bf109g+wyvern in everyone. Now if you have good AA you can safely bring some spearfish

[barren tapir]

when a 70k hp peace breaker spawns:

[stark quiver]

i dont have spearfish
and i probably wont for the next half year

[sharp socket]

i run fj + wyvern for mobbing

[storm heron]

welp dd gun is generally not that impactful anyways unless you run the gunship

[sharp socket]

the ectl recommendation works for mobbing

[barren tapir]

for opsi mobbing do i want HE or AP for my bb?

[storm heron]

457

[sharp socket]

i put 457 so yes

[sweet delta]

Something like Bisz Alsace unicorn aegir hinden ply should do the job

[barren tapir]

yeah and if you need one you'd prefer to get it passively via research or thru gearlab, never core data >.<

[mellow cape]

Oh what should I do for my second boss fleet?

[sharp socket]

frontline does the light damage, backline does the heavy damage

[mellow cape]

I'll try that, sushi

[barren tapir]

dont have yet. compare between champy, twin 410, and 406mk6

[stark quiver]

is spearfish better than wyvern in mob?

[sweet delta]

Just build them for the arbiter, since your mob fleet should deal with everything else as you said

[sharp socket]

maybe, but its also mobbing fleet

[mellow cape]

Fair fair, tyyy

[sharp socket]

you dont need a whole lot for mobbing

[mellow cape]

I just want a new mob fleet to auto strongholds and it looks like I got the sushi approval seal

[barren tapir]

atm im using 410 for ruppy she's doing fine with it, just wondering if champy might be better since i tend to stall a bit when a fat ahh elite spawns, but im also just bruteforcing with low adapts lol

[storm heron]

hmm I don't think anything else in opsi mobbing is sig better than the other

[little tree]

~~ is cheeky new name a new meme ~~

[near perch]

is there no tlr bgm gear?

[ebon marten]

I coin this part now right?

[viscid swift]

yes, but not right now except the free ones

[mellow cape]

Without scuffing yourself yeah lol

[sharp socket]

given how new you are i think just hold off it

[viscid swift]

and Odin takes priority over Anchorage for FS

[sharp socket]

your coins are very precious early on and you’re not at oilcap yet

[storm heron]

just take 4 or 7

wait they are not oilcap yet?

[near perch]

is there no bgm gear of this collab?

[barren tapir]

would take 2 and call it quits considering how new they are

[storm heron]

how did they do cdc for ancho

[barren tapir]

p2w obviously (/s)

[viscid swift]

they bought the voucher

[sharp socket]

💳

[storm heron]

alright then just don't

good thing I said no before

[viscid swift]

for the low low price of 64 bucks you too can have the completely overkill newbie fleet of
Izumo, Unicorn, AvP, Cheshire, Kitakaze, Helena

[ebon marten]

Ok so odin first should I bother getting pr 2 and pr 1 tickets as well and doing the same thing or not?

[storm heron]

#gameplay-help message

[viscid swift]

you don't need them
unless you really want to steam roll the early game that hard

[ebon marten]

Im a whale lol just seeing shiny stuff and asking questions to see what helps me

[storm heron]

full power ibuki and seattle for aa

[sharp socket]

goose manages to steamroll 13-4 in 3 weeks of playing w/ lv70 commander pack so unless you’re gonna try that

[ebon marten]

I mean i could get it but I'm a noob so idk if it's worth or not lol

[storm heron]

do they have UR?

[ebon marten]

Im just learning at this point and ty for answering all my questions

[barren tapir]

Thank you for supporting Azur Lane

[sharp socket]

no idea

[ebon marten]

Np

[storm heron]

cause starting during UR and no is so much different, especially UR BB

[sharp socket]

probably not given 3 weeks is not enough for a UR mlb

[barren tapir]

i don't think whaling lets you get UR bulins, does it?

[sharp socket]

unless he also manages to get 5 pieces of the same UR

[barren tapir]

but you could whale dupes it'd just be uhh

[storm heron]

I mean 4 UR bulins in 1 month is possible for newbs

[ebon marten]

I think there is a pack that gives me one im not sure

[zinc cave]

whaling for permanent UR

[barren tapir]

maybe whale for 3 copies and then mlb with 2 bulins?

[storm heron]

like you can get 10k if you start playing 1 week before end of month

[barren tapir]

yeah, it is

< -

but depends on when you start (1 from UR event, 1 from spec core, 1 from support plan, 1 from cruise pass)

[sharp socket]

ehh just ping him and have an interrogation right here

[barren tapir]

in fact i think i had mlbed amagi in about 3 weeks one sec

[sharp socket]

this is gameplay related, speedrunning AL

[barren tapir]

2 weeks actually, i got her 12 days in and mlbed her 14 days in

[storm heron]

and given how sweaty some players can be, given the resources it is possible

[barren tapir]

<- sweaty casual

but yeah i got perfect timing to get the 4 bulins i mentioned just like that

[storm heron]

wait I think the biggest impact is not UR BB, it's actually UR CB

for early

[ebon marten]

Nvm there is no pack i could buy rn the one for spec core

[barren tapir]

wtf you yapping about, you can get anchorage for free

you just need a BB to hard carry

[mellow cape]

Last fleet is very questionable but I think I like it so far

[storm heron]

uss tech left the chat

[sharp socket]

UR BB good

[barren tapir]

we're talking about whaling

you don't need the tech if you whale, that's the whole idea

[storm heron]

oh I thought lvl 70 cdr only

so pr vouchers too? ofc you can steamroll 13-4 lmaoo

[barren tapir]

idk, ive lost the thread, but the newbie in question who was just here got the pr pack things

[ebon marten]

And i just bought the pr 1 and 2 pack but idk who to ger from there

[viscid swift]

Izumo and Kitakaze

[barren tapir]

but also i would argue portland is enough for w13. and you can do idk neptune for mobtank she's good now

[ebon marten]

Aye aye cap

[storm heron]

Izumo no fs though?

[wind hazel]

put plymouth in bb fleet, zwei to bb fleet, let agir tank

[sweet delta]

Goose started with the broken new server event

[storm heron]

u sure cheeky?

[barren tapir]

ijn tech points for haku maybe ?

[viscid swift]

so your fleet will be Izumo, Odin, Unicorn/Perseus, Anchorage, Kitakaze, Helena
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[barren tapir]

but also izumo > monarch and kita decent dd

[viscid swift]

they can recitify that later

[sharp socket]

now that is a stronk newbie fleet lol

[barren tapir]

this fleet is gonna roflstomp everything

[mellow cape]

Oh I haven't sorted the order yet but I'm doing that now.

[storm heron]

Idk if I prefer d30 izumo over d30 monarch

[barren tapir]

the point is izumo upgrades into better bb with fs5 and augment, monarch kinda doesnt

[viscid swift]

now that I think about it when PR5 comes out you could do
Izumo, Chkalov, Unicorn, Anchorage, Kitakaze, Mainz for the low low price of 75

[wind hazel]

p2w game 🫃🏼

[ebon marten]

There is a pr5 ticket coming out?

[wind hazel]

eventually

[viscid swift]

in a few months probably, you'll be beyond that when it does

[storm heron]

idk It's above 100 with apple tax in cad

[barren tapir]

truly p2w

[sharp socket]

extreme cooking

[viscid swift]

I'm state side

[ebon marten]

That's fine then

[barren tapir]

then again there's nothing to win beyond waifus which everyone gets eventually

[ebon marten]

Ur wise tho who do i redeem?

[storm heron]

[viscid swift]

you can whale a UR without cubes?

[ebon marten]

Im at 330/400

[wind hazel]

shinano

[sharp socket]

there is
abdou world record w15-4 in 8 months unbeatable record

[viscid swift]

ah, Shinano

[storm heron]

abdou f2p right

or at most lvl 70 cdr

[wind hazel]

shinano>shinano>shinano>shinano>shinano>nj>uvh>shimakaze

[sharp socket]

lucked with the best event possible

[ebon marten]

Copy that

[barren tapir]

guam+laffey?

[sharp socket]

yes

[storm heron]

best event w15 wise

[barren tapir]

yeah aint no one beating that

[sharp socket]

cant get better than that for pushing w15

[barren tapir]

at least not until w15 is completely powercrept and w16 exists anyway

[sharp socket]

maybe on rerun it can happen again

[viscid swift]

dev leak much

[storm heron]

wait there's news on w16?

[viscid swift]

no

I have a few theories on who we'll see as enemies but eh details

[lament hazel]

if there is a collab and UR Event

You know you cannot gain 60k point in both events(due to resource limitations(either the x2 reward item or the oil)

which one will you sacrifice? UR Event or Collab

[plain saffron]

You actually can, by storing mail oils

[viscid swift]

you can do 60k in both pretty easily

[stark quiver]

kinda just based on what happened after leyte?

[storm heron]

:yamatosip:

[viscid swift]

not even storing mails, just by being active and playing the game

[sharp socket]

UR event because collab doesnt rerun, but id rather send all my mail oil to get both

[viscid swift]

one word, Samar

[barren tapir]

what, like, simultaneously? because there's a lot of time between start of collab and end of ur event typically

[eager mulch]

who?

[stark quiver]

ah i see

[storm heron]

ofc UR event, collab never coming back actually nvm, you're taling about pts

[barren tapir]

also why points, what's the importance there, i care more about the ships

[viscid swift]

that one time Yo-mum-toe and her gang got boxed up like sardines by a bunch of tin cans

[barren tapir]

and yeah i'd sacrifice UR event unless collab has shit gear and UR amazing gear, since it's only a question about points

[wind hazel]

yomamatoe

[eager mulch]

ooo

[lament hazel]

hmmm? 2 weeks of pause time?

[barren tapir]

you can always do 20k in collab for ship + whatever and then 40k in UR

[eager mulch]

i got ragnar, no bourg

[storm heron]

ansonmato

[wind hazel]

it's impossible to not get 60k point in 2 weeks event unless you're griefing hard your oil on some other things

[barren tapir]

especially with collab being very oil efficient (it's a trend)

[wind hazel]

oil will not be your limitation

[storm heron]

time is

[wind hazel]

correct

[barren tapir]

im at like 110k with plenty of oil left to spend before maint, i havent touched any of my storage oils

What

[storm heron]

even cheeky's not 100k

[zinc cave]

110k points?

[barren tapir]

i saw someone have over 300k lmfao

[sharp socket]

point farmers are a different breed

[storm heron]

idk why people would grief cog chips like that tbh

[barren tapir]

well tbf many of y'all are farming 12-4 for coin over the event

cog chips can be farmed whenever, gear skins cannot be

[wind hazel]

most of them are whales

[storm heron]

like do they just did it once and struggle for cog chips or will they keep doing 300k for every event

[zinc cave]

amagi top 3

[wind hazel]

and they buy oil to farm toolkit blueprints for power fleeting

[storm heron]

Aw no not brest again

[barren tapir]

at least that's my reason for living in t5 and never spending oil anywhere else (except hm)

[stark quiver]

brest himself is just different

[barren tapir]

i have uhhh like 10k oil proper and then the weekly pack left to destroy before maint + regen/comm

[storm heron]

like sometimes I just wonder how the lives of those powerfleeters are

[lament hazel]

how did you guys managed to gain 100k points?

do you guys do 1:1?

[wind hazel]

yes

[barren tapir]

no im just doing standard t5

[storm heron]

like do they keep grinding ships for fleet power so they keep the leaderboard position

[lament hazel]

and how to get so much of the x2 items?

[wind hazel]

why do you need x2

[lament hazel]

do you guys do OpSi that often? or anyways ?

[barren tapir]

i havent used heclps a single time, this event aint worth it

[soft raft]

They frontloaded you with alot of those when they first came out

They're a timesaver tool anyways

[lament hazel]

wait, I never?

[wind hazel]

people that farm that hard don't use HECLP

[lament hazel]

hmmm... oh ok

[wind hazel]

it's actually worse off because of morale drain

[storm heron]

HECLP do not help since your limitation is oil and time only

[stark quiver]

its just time
2 weeks = 336 hours

[sharp socket]

i save my HELPs for good events like yk2

[barren tapir]

couple days ago i finally added a 2nd mobfleet for t5 bc using just 1 fleet at max exp efficiency i wasnt gonna have time to use all my oil lol

[lament hazel]

I am thinking of this

if I go 1:1, and I do PR research... wouldn't that be hellish long?

[barren tapir]

why the fuck would you 1:1

[storm heron]

that's why you don't do 100k when you are CDC ing

[soft raft]

Think of the HELP as doing two runs at once

Which means double the positives and negatives

[lament hazel]

point farming and PR farming

[wind hazel]

people that farm that hard aren't PR researching either...

[barren tapir]

what do you mean, this entire event ive been cdcing

[lament hazel]

I am doing both in same time

[soft raft]

just farm T5
It's either the pt min maxing or PR XP, not both

[barren tapir]

what are y'alls yapping about? 100k is fairly reasonable as a very active player without crazy shenanigans.

300k is where you have to nolife and do low oil bullshit

[storm heron]

didn't mean to offend you gdamnit should have had a better wording like Mori did

[wind hazel]

100k isn't the average

[barren tapir]

i grinded 100% of ruppy exp in t5 + c1

and im over halfway with monarch now too

[storm heron]

average around 55k for sure

[viscid swift]

I did grind some of Halford's XP from B1 farming but that was a concidicence

[wind hazel]

lower actually

[barren tapir]

i didnt say it was. i said it's doable without making bizzare sacrifices like ppl are claiming

[viscid swift]

more like 10k probably

[barren tapir]

i havent sacrificed any exp

[stark quiver]

yea 10k sounds reasonable
people grind until ship, then stop

[wind hazel]

you're also in a collab event

[stark quiver]

im only at 55k, only because i dont have enough time

[wind hazel]

normal event oil cap is much higher

[barren tapir]

i thought we are talking about this event that's literally what begun this

[wind hazel]

he was asking about collab and UR event

[barren tapir]

yes

[wind hazel]

you're putting your collab experience in the next UR event

[storm heron]

what the schimetta

[sharp socket]

i overfarmed and at 60k now

[barren tapir]

i'm not. i was talking about the collab section

[wind hazel]

well, i am talking about the UR event experience

[sharp socket]

i forgot SP and daily gives points too

[barren tapir]

ppl just reacted crazy to me saying my current points that's all

[wind hazel]

yes because i find it a bit wasteful too

[sharp socket]

yeah cause normally you wouldnt farm that much

[wind hazel]

it's not a good thing to overfarm at event

[sharp socket]

55k good enough, 40k or less for rerun

[barren tapir]

but yeah for UR events you'd want to 1:1 if point chasing

[barren tapir]

i care about cosmetics said so already

[wind hazel]

no you can 3:3 as well if you wanna grind at the highest map

[sharp socket]

the mythical B1 farm

[lament hazel]

anyways... I am wondering this sh-

If I go 1:1 on my farm fleet, and put crossfleeters in 2nd fleet and they are just staying

is that okay?

[dusk maple]

i don't mind doing 100k in collabs tbh, those equipment skins aren't coming back

[barren tapir]

these gearskins will likely never return. i want as many as possible

[wind hazel]

yeah that's chasing a different thing, gear skin isn't in most people's calculation

[storm heron]

how many gear skins do you need?

[barren tapir]

again i mentioned this in the context of my points

[wind hazel]

and original question was asking for 60k point, so it's entirely a different story

[storm heron]

not to mention I prefer the star rainbow gear skin

[barren tapir]

yes i just said my points as an example that reaching high point is not that hard to do you get enough oil if you play actively. 100k collab and 60k UR event if desired

[wind hazel]

i thought we all made it clear already that 60k is not limited by oil

whether 1:1 or 3:3, it won't be your limitating factor

[barren tapir]

yeah exactly thats what i was trying to say

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼

[storm heron]

you have 3k each day oil, times 14 it's 42k, yea no way 55k not possible

[barren tapir]

you have more than that, that is like the bare minimum xd

[storm heron]

oh yea forgot to factor in the 4k oil and the weekly mission oil and the collab oil

[ebon marten]

Sigh couldn't max izumo and kitakaze didn't have enough exp lol

[barren tapir]

not only can you stock oils in advance of an event (beginning near your softcap, with weekly pack and weeklies unclaimed) but your calculation doesnt consider urgent comms or said weekly stuff on top

[storm heron]

yeah you need em to level 70

[barren tapir]

plus event shop has 5k oil everyone shud buy if they have time to spend it, as it's pure profit

[ebon marten]

Yeaaahh

[storm heron]

so there is no way that you can't reach the points, your limitation at that point is just time @whoeverwasasking

[ebon marten]

Wish I could take lala and nana exp back to lvl those 2

[barren tapir]

those are good ships too

[wind hazel]

gold bulin stuck

[storm heron]

poor guy

[ebon marten]

Which ones lala and nana?

[barren tapir]

well if they're the only gold ships it's not really a problem. and they have loads of prs to do everything else

[storm heron]

yes

[ebon marten]

Oh I was told they decent lol

[barren tapir]

every chapter x-3 3* has a gold bulin, so they're sorta frontloaded early. you can spare to use 2 golds

[wind hazel]

i personally won't use them if i can help it

[ebon marten]

Do i buy those mats to have them now and max out San diego?

[wind hazel]

you'd be raising 2 ships that won't help you in other PR development

[wind hazel]

no

[viscid swift]

more importantly you're trying getting far ahead of yourself

[wind hazel]

not now anyway, you'll come back to sandiego very later on

[viscid swift]

you have one very good fleet already, focus on that and push the campaign and event

[ebon marten]

Ok was just asking since I was told san diego is very good

[soft raft]

How much specialized core do you have right now?

[storm heron]

not worth though

[barren tapir]

sure if you want to 100% minmax research then you wouldn't use them but they'd make a good foundation for an eventual second fleet

[soft raft]

Nah she is good
Just that her retrofit item might be conflicting with UR Bullins for your specialized core

[wind hazel]

yes, so it's a dead end investment in the end

[ebon marten]

4k now

[storm heron]

nvm bad example

[wind hazel]

if you use other faction ships, they aren't as dead end, because they have tech and can contribute pr grind

[viscid swift]

yeah save those for UR Bullins in a few weeks

what is this even about...

[ebon marten]

Ok back to farming event then

[barren tapir]

fair ig, that's a level of minmaxing that personally disgusts me so i'll bow out here lol

[storm heron]

welp the point is good is not the same as worth

[wind hazel]

i mean yeah you're using them because you like them, that's fair

🫃🏼 just like how i use faction fleet despite this channel's view on it

[ebon marten]

Will do ill just horde them for now

[storm heron]

channel is very open to faction fleet, unless the newb is hurting and they didn't know that faction fleet bad

[wind hazel]

it's just an objective opinion about collab ships

[viscid swift]

I'm not opposed to it if the person undertsands their limitations and being reasonable with what they want it to do

I'm not helping someone clear W15 with IB fleets for instance

[storm heron]

ironically even suchi probably won't

[viscid swift]

as for my views on the collab ships, if they are the best options when it comes time for them to do a 2nd fleet I see no problem in reccing them for that

[barren tapir]

i'd just link them suchi's clear either they have the skills to replicate it or they don't, not our issue

[storm heron]

agree, newbs struggle with tanking, and lala helps

[wind hazel]

portland is always there

[ebon marten]

Plus lala is cute

[little tree]

Is lala better then tallin ?

[viscid swift]

they're hardly going down a normal progression path, what's wrong with breaking a few more at this point

[barren tapir]

not for raw ehp but she does much more damage and has minor support/utility

[wind hazel]

that's fair

[viscid swift]

but anyway, I did stress best which can definitely change depending on what they end up with by the time that comes

[barren tapir]

yeah i'm not gonna recommend them something if they have better lol

[storm heron]

personally I won't recommend non-tech ships

[little tree]

Cheeky what's a good mob dps to have for opsi i use jda kron and agir in mob is it worth investing in hinden burger for opsi mob

[storm heron]

so no talin, no juneau, and no whatever might be

[wind hazel]

i wont go as far

[barren tapir]

don't you mean bad tech. they still have tech

[stark quiver]

depends where in the game your at
hinden might not be the best route

[barren tapir]

mori's point of view makes more sense than yours lol

[little tree]

In at w14 in campaign but I lack ur guns

[stark quiver]

what pr season u at?
and depends what ships u have

[tawdry topaz]

you dont really need UR guns for W14

[barren tapir]

besides i dont think those two are recommended anyway

[little tree]

I'm almost done with 4 in terms of ships Haku is dev 28 and agir is 30 away from dev 30 I'm researching Plymouth atm

[wind hazel]

is your harbin useable?

[little tree]

It's for opsi I'm talking about i was only stating where I'm at in campign

[little tree]

No

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 post dock

[tawdry topaz]

mob dps, just use IJN DDs with barrage guns

[humble iris]

Is hood better than richelieu

[little tree]

One sec

[wind hazel]

just your vanguard, if you wanna dump entire dock then open thread

[little tree]

New

[quartz jungle]

Surely this is wrong for W14 no?

[storm heron]

you can't use her passive iirc

[sweet delta]

What makes seydlitz good

[vestal glen]

any1 know what next event is?

[quartz jungle]

Redirect damage taken from other KMS ships (like Ulrich for boss and FDG for mob) + decent staggered damage due to fastload

In any case shouldn't be D

[zinc cave]

next big event is an UR but no details past that

[sweet delta]

2x170% aux guns ain't it I think

[storm heron]

jimmy said seyd good so

[humble iris]

Should I use nj or shima

[viscid swift]

1. you're not always gonna be using FDG or UvH or any IB ship for that matter
2. CVs are preferable for off flag for ACV and wave clearing abilities
3. there are many other ships that can stagger
4. Seylitz is tanky but her damage is not that spectacular

[quartz jungle]

She has 3 aux guns though?

[vestal glen]

hmm they dont usually post news abt upcoming events? and here i thought it was abt to be update again

[barren tapir]

she looks like uhh..

fast first salvo, relatively tanky, bootleg musashi for kms backline. passable main guns, bad interception, mediocre stats

i feel like MAYBE usable in w14 at a stretch but there should be many better options

[fiery pelican]

what's opsi boss armor this month?

[zinc cave]

news probably drops next week if anything

[stark quiver]

heavy

[barren tapir]

more like 2.5 aux guns

[storm heron]

barely 2x200%

[vestal glen]

hmm

[barren tapir]

but yeah i think bad interception is her main issue for w14

[storm heron]

I wanna try to find that one jimmy video about seyd but gtg

[viscid swift]

that doesn't help but she really just doesn't have too much going for her in that context

[barren tapir]

cos i mean she does have pairing requirements but if they are met she has decent enough self-buffs. quick load/staggered damage, and is durable enough. she just doesnt do anything special to warrant use

[quartz jungle]

https://youtu.be/t6q5Qvonwas?si=E9k4flGwgKg5wJ-Q

It's this one yes

[zinc cave]

wasnt the argument for Seyd something like based around the redirection skill if you dont have musashi?

[stark quiver]

whats next medal shop hull rotation for amagi

[zinc cave]

what server are you on

[sweet delta]

A 70% aux gun is worse than an AA gun for interception lol

[barren tapir]

i mean maybe if you run a kms backline boss fleet? in mob it wont work when uni is a slot and there's not exactly a good kms mobbing cv

[stark quiver]

oh wait i can check on wiki

[quartz jungle]

Correct, but that doesn't warrant a D, probably a B or C at least

[vestal glen]

wait, i thought to love ru event ends this week? so shouldnt there be a UR event right after?

[quartz jungle]

It's a seperate one no? It doesn't effect the CL gun Rld time

[barren tapir]

definitely not a B

i can see C being an argument though

[barren tapir]

he means you'd prefer the aa

[storm heron]

or maybe C with -4 fleet req

[barren tapir]

does her requirement count herself as a german ship

[storm heron]

or maybe another row of Seyd + IB BB, A in W14

[barren tapir]

if she counts for herself i feel -2 fleet would be fair, cos it's just 1 kms ship

[quartz jungle]

Yes

[sweet delta]

It will jam the CL gun if enemies show up as the CL gun finishes reloading

[barren tapir]

oh damn. yeah that's bad lol

tbh tho if ruppy is C then seydlitz deserves D

[quartz jungle]

Yeah I'd support this

[zinc cave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05KXKHyLxIQ

[barren tapir]

A sounds like cope

[storm heron]

or seyd with fdg S

[barren tapir]

A means highly recommended and there's no way a gold bb with multiple flaws is gonna be that

even tho she can potentially be gud as bootleg musashi. that is a big maybe

personally comparing the two im pretty sure id take ruppy over sedylitz in most every case and ruppy is a C

[viscid swift]

here's the thing about considering pairs, they'd need to be better than an easily available option to warrant even considering

[barren tapir]

keep in mind pairings restrict your options and flexibility

[viscid swift]

I doubt such a paring with Seydlitz is that

[barren tapir]

like at most i would consider seydlitz a tentative C. anything higher sounds like cope, but what do i know

[fiery pelican]

does it means, the same as previous one?

[zinc cave]

No Strength was Medium armor

December is Hermit (BB), Heavy armor

[fiery pelican]

Okay so I need to change some gear?

[sweet delta]

I'm not moving a ship out of D just because one guy had success with her with max tech

[barren tapir]

immediate issue: 2 years ago, a lot more better ships exist now.

also it's on safe

[karmic pebble]

Is this good

[soft raft]

Why does Seydlitz only have one barrage
Like literally a single one

From what I remember, she only fires it once

[sweet delta]

on safe

[barren tapir]

idk if he tries it on lethal somehow later on, i saw this in the first 10 seconds

[soft raft]

Weaker than 155 Kai
I made like only one and that was for Shimanto Pre-FS5

[barren tapir]

he'd have an argument for C if it had been on lethal since it'd mean she is usable with high account investment kek

[karmic pebble]

So it's somewhat decent..I'll take it

Just need it for some spare ships

[quartz jungle]

Btw how is Mikasa paired with Musashi A* on EX, just curious

[mellow cape]

Mm I moved Plymouth to the boss bb fleet and I have an extra space for mobbing, any recs for that last slot

[storm heron]

have testing been done to say seyd D, or is it just calculation?

[brazen star]

#media-content message

[sweet delta]

Are you wondering why she's not S* or why she's so high?

[ebon marten]

So i just got unicorn gotta max her and upgrade skills but isn't my perseus better then unicorn?

[quartz jungle]

The latter

[sweet delta]

Just Musashi in case you don't have Alsace

Better options exist but if you don't have them then you can still use former best options

[quartz jungle]

Thanks

[sweet delta]

Hmmm Alsace SS* actually means SS or S*

Alsace SS -> Richelieu S*
Musashi S -> Mikasa A*

[barren tapir]

im more curious about why ruppy is rated c for mobs (80% barrage moment? or something else?)

[fiery pelican]

Is there benefits joining active guild? Even casual has maxed stuff, and weekly raid

[hollow gust]

It doesn't have maxed , and it's less rewards

[barren tapir]

casual guilds can be maxed and do hardest raid unless they mean public guild

[sharp socket]

does suchirating have opsi mob?

[barren tapir]

opsi mob is not endgame content

[mellow cape]

Loll no but sushi gave me a killer mob fleet

Ty

[sweet delta]

I think the problem is that the chapter 14 ratings are harsher than the goal of "lethal w14 (not 3 star)" requires

Because if it were on the same scale as w15 then w14 would have like triple the number of A and S tier ships

So maybe I could change the definition for w14 to the standard of level 120 ships or something

The alternative of raising w14 tiers for many ships is more work 🦥

[humble solar]

Is Chang Chun still good?

[zinc cave]

yep

[humble solar]

Planning to retrofit the DDGs and use them for opsi

[tawdry topaz]

probably not worth it

[barren tapir]

at least on cn the ddgs are relatively highly rated for opsi

[zinc cave]

no bias here

[barren tapir]

i mean naturally, but if they say ddgs not worth it, then what is worth it instead?

[tawdry topaz]

UR bulins

[barren tapir]

personally i consider 1/4th a bulin worth it for a very good ship

also ur bulins arent a worthwhile substitute for an opsi ship, i was asking for actual ships you'd recommend over ddgs

[forest palm]

I honestly forget DDGs exist until I need to 1:1

[barren tapir]

sandy costs twice as much ur bulin as a ddg somehow i dont think that's who they had in mind

[wind hazel]

as always, depends on dock

[ocean fiber]

What are we talking about here

[wind hazel]

but ddg require more than just specialized core

[barren tapir]

this, i disagree with this statement without proper nuance and an actual observation of the player in question's status

[wind hazel]

yes that is jumping to conclusion

[stark quiver]

is 1:1 polaris farm to 60 doable ina day

[forest palm]

specialized cores, core data, 2 or so months of your time if not more(depends on how many you want to use), and a bunch of retro mats

[barren tapir]

well it's less than 1 month per ddg in terms of core data

[wind hazel]

if you already unlocked sp5 from the get go and have 60 tix, yes

[ocean fiber]

By the way quick question after researching FDG should I research Haku then?

[barren tapir]

and then if you want to bring that up can we also bring up sandy's 7 bulins and augment

[forest palm]

Anchor

[wind hazel]

what even is there to farm there

[barren tapir]

cosmic kick

[wind hazel]

oh it's from there?

[barren tapir]

yeah, 60 clears reward

[wind hazel]

do the kicks just get removed from the screen if you got it

[barren tapir]

[wind hazel]

the answer is yes

[stark quiver]

how much tickets do i get a day

[wind hazel]

4 iirc

[stark quiver]

~~now do i really wanna farm polaris ~~

[wind hazel]

if you lazy to swap gear, maybe

[barren tapir]

in dead week if you got nothing else i guess?

we did get a cosmick kick replacement from this event already

[wind hazel]

yeah same stats even

[stark quiver]

i ned kicks for pvp
well im using both at the same time if i did

[tired axle]

Guys, what are your general layout for Amagi (CV)?

[wind hazel]

and better effect

[barren tapir]

same stat, better passive unless you need mu ships for a mu skill

[tired axle]

Like, equipment-wise? What's your build?

[barren tapir]

pvp well if you want @ alpha

[tired axle]

Nah, just for PvE purposes and map clearing

[stark quiver]

flapjack,tenrai,wyvern for most general content

[wind hazel]

what are you running

[tired axle]

Thanks. What's the use of Ryuusei for Amagi CV?

[wind hazel]

and tbh it's useless to minmax pvp aux when you can just restart the fight until you win with sheer rng

[tired axle]

Ahh, so the B6N is much better?

[barren tapir]

so that's how ppl have 100% wr

[tired axle]

Maybe I should synergize it with Ryuusei as well

[wind hazel]

yes

[tired axle]

Is there any alternatives to Tenrai and also, who needs Tenrai more, Shinano or Amagi CV?

[wind hazel]

tenrai better on amagi than on shinano

[tired axle]

Because I only had 2 Tenrais right now and they're both equipped by Shinano and Haku

[tired axle]

Thanks

[lament hazel]

Currently farming for Daisen

Is this a good 1:1?

[viscid swift]

no

[wind hazel]

no

[forest palm]

do not 1:1

[viscid swift]

even if you're gonna do 1:1 SP5 you can go cheaper than Rikka for a vanguard

[lament hazel]

Because I do both PR and event point farming

[viscid swift]

eh?

[wind hazel]

just do 3:3

[lament hazel]

[tired axle]

Btw how useful is the Beacon on PvE?

[forest palm]

you're literally making it harder on yourself 1:1'ing

[viscid swift]

oil cap is 22 for mobs right?
cheapest you can get on SP5 reasonably is Unicorn and a DDG with 20 oil

without doing stuff like 125ing a UR Bullin

[wind hazel]

good for staggering airstrikes if you wanna desync

unicorn+leander works, 19 oil

[tired axle]

Ahh, okay. So if I want Amagi CV to strike earlier than my Haku I could use it? What if both of them are equipped with Beacon?

[barren tapir]

this costs more than 6 ships on t5

[lament hazel]

huh

[barren tapir]

oilcap 20

[tired axle]

Do I just get an earlier airstrike overall?

[viscid swift]

oh yeah, the cost of that fleet is 23 per battle, oil cap is 22 on SP5 of the event

[zinc cave]

yeah but 4% usually doesnt make or break anything big

[viscid swift]

sorry 20, so that's even worse

[tired axle]

Okay. Thanks

[barren tapir]

cheapest is ranger mahan for 16 if you consider that worth it. to go any cheaper requires UR bulin lvl125 with her augment from april fools 2023

[viscid swift]

you gain literally nothing by 1:1ing with that fleet

[barren tapir]

and obviously you cannot pr farm with any of these

[viscid swift]

16?

[stark quiver]

is sp5 doable with 5 oil fleet
on lethal

[barren tapir]

9 + 7

u mean for polaris? fuck if i know, try it

[stark quiver]

its like 3 or 4 oil

[lament hazel]

Okay time to do 3:3 then

[viscid swift]

how much manualing did you do for that

[barren tapir]

mlbs for t5

0lb dies

the only 0lb fleet that works is ranger + UR bulin + cassin + downes

[lament hazel]

Recommend me 3 IJN Backliners to farm

[unique lantern]

is there a way to turn this garbage off somehow?

[barren tapir]

literally any

[zinc cave]

claim ur rewards

[barren tapir]

souryuu is good tech

[unique lantern]

starting opsi, going away for an hour, this message popped up a minute after i went away, all the time wasted

[viscid swift]

Hiryuu, Soryuu, Ryuuhou, and Zuiho have the best tech

[stark quiver]

ima try it

[tired axle]

Guys, is Shinano benefitting on fast cd DB?

[viscid swift]

in fact the only ships with bad tech there are the muse ships

[barren tapir]

that message literally only pops up the first time you do your weekly guild mission.

[tired axle]

Something like Suisei Type 21A

[unique lantern]

yes and its wasting a huge chunk of time every week

for no fkn reason

[barren tapir]

one time a week and just finish it before you go afk?

[tired axle]

Because I was thinking of equipping her the Suisei because of its fast cd

[wind hazel]

dont accept the mission next time 👍🏼

[zinc cave]

i mean i get why ur mad, but it is what it is now

[barren tapir]

sure it'd be cool if you can disable that notification but like, its easy to work around and it's just there to remind you to collect your reward

only accept the mission when you have time to play i guess

[lament hazel]

ok noted

[barren tapir]

and like i go afk for an hour and my fleet stops in 2 mins because it found an akashi. shit happens

[lament hazel]

I am asking whose who so, "any" is not the answer I search,but still thank you

[unique lantern]

you cant not accept the mission unless you dont go into your guild tab either :c
eh this week it isnt that bad, i still have 1.5 hrs before reset, last week i lost my daily meta data because of it when i was in a rush

[barren tapir]

it does not matter who you pick as long as theyre not lvl120 (so you dont 'waste' exp). you can prioritize ships with good tech as others suggested, cv rld and the like

[lament hazel]

Anyways Hiryuu-Souryuu-Ryuuhou

whose the flag?

[viscid swift]

doesn't matter

[zinc cave]

doesnt particularly matter with those

[barren tapir]

the lowest level one

[lament hazel]

ok

[barren tapir]

since the side goal besides pr grinding is to lvl120 them for tech

[viscid swift]

I would go the complete opposite actually

[barren tapir]

theyre not gonna die in t5 lol

[unique lantern]

lowest lvl one might sink, depending on how low the level is

[barren tapir]

it's lvl90 and t5 is 76-80 please

[lament hazel]

90

[viscid swift]

it's not that, you would prioritize the highest level to max because they're the one you can max the soonest and thus get the tech from faster

[barren tapir]

ive successfully had lvl20 flag

[barren tapir]

oh okay, fair.

[viscid swift]

doesn't help you complete the overall goal faster but helps get intermediate steps done quicker

[sweet delta]

Are we talking about low level ships? I brought a level 1 main fleet ship to w14 and she was decent, only sinking in fewer than half of sorties

[barren tapir]

but yeah i like balancing out exp, though maxing 1 soonest would be better actually

[unique lantern]

oh yea t5, didnt read the context because i was flaming that guild notification earlier

[viscid swift]

I consider level 70 low these days

[barren tapir]

im just used to slapping the lowest in flag if it can survive to bring it up to par sooner, but that's a relic of levelling ships to actually use them

[viscid swift]

trust me, you'll get into the farming mentality proper soon enough

[unique lantern]

im just trying to get rid of my energy, feel bad about playing repeat stages with maxed ships and just with that keep getting 120s not a lot yet tho, but im getting there

[vestal glen]

so after to love ru event there is no event?

[sinful escarp]

rest period, we usually have a few weeks of no event to gather more materials in between events

[vestal glen]

i see

[mellow cape]

I think this will be my new op si fleet, any other tips? Sorry for the late response

[sweet delta]

Guam tanks, and Bristol...will be on manual?

[mellow cape]

Yeahhh sadly I can't auto the hard arbiter without better gear yet

I haven't been able to auto the arbiter at all actually lol

[sweet delta]

For hard arbiter ideally you have Musashi Bisz soyuz/Alsace in the ply Helena fleet, but this is ok too

Well this months arbiter is much easier than last months

[mellow cape]

Last month took so many trial and error man

💀 okay I'll test it and come back to you

[hollow gust]

Isn't this month heavy , it's just Amagi gaming

[lament hazel]

recommend me gears for Watarase, Slaimuda have not made it

[wind hazel]

plygun, quad mag, 57mm, rudder, toolkit

[zinc cave]

Watarase doesn't have anything special so the generic selection, in fact it matters more who and what your Flagship is doing.

[signal pollen]

How much yellow gear do I even need to consider building a light armored plane comp for opsi

[lament hazel]

plygun?

[wind hazel]

q152 or something, i can't deal with numbers

[lament hazel]

oh ok

also 57mm?

[sharp socket]

none because anti light cv is bf109 from pr4, or hvars from yk2 event

TBs are just for syncing and is very little cost

[lament hazel]

ah the UR lab

[signal pollen]

I thought those were not rocket?

[wind hazel]

the rainbow AA gun

[sharp socket]

and if you have anti heavy cv comp you should have those TBs already

[wind hazel]

just use any good CL gun and any good AA gun, those work too

[signal pollen]

I don’t have a heavy cv comp. Should I start from there? I have the planes to do it

[sharp socket]

all TBs are for heavy, fighters can be light with rockets and hvar

[signal pollen]

I mean not planes I I mean I have the characters

[sharp socket]

DB has tenrai for heavy and skyraider also from yk2 event for med and light

basically if you want to do light cv you need to have done yk2 event because yk2 herself is also good for light

[signal pollen]

I did the event and have a few hvars

[sharp socket]

else BBs with mk7 will do better

[mellow cape]

Is Yat-sen and harbiter still a thing?

[signal pollen]

Like this right?

Or should I go flapjack for fighter

[sharp socket]

hvar on fighters

then sync accordingly with other slots, or change fighters if really necessary

[signal pollen]

Which ones are the hvar

I’m sorry I’m really new to the plane thing. Someone said it’s the best highest dps I think if built properly

[wind hazel]

this one

[stark quiver]

you only have one?

[signal pollen]

I was supposed to have more?

[zinc cave]

no theyre just making sure

this is ur next best anti-light option

so youll this and the hvar in the fighter slots

[sweet delta]

So one hvar, not a few hvars. I don't think anyone calls skyraider hvar

[signal pollen]

Maybe I am messed up. Sorry

[lament hazel]

Rate me this fleet

[sharp socket]

well what is it for firstly

[stark quiver]

based faction fleet

[bold cove]

Where can i find which ship in shipyard had coin up before hand

[stark quiver]

even if not unlocked, the blueprint icon should have a coin on it
bottom of each ship profile in lab

[sharp socket]

if you tell me its for everything im telling you thats not going past w12 with those levels

[bold cove]

A small coin on blueprint icon?

[wind hazel]

yes, go to PR4 and you'll see the difference

[bold cove]

Thanks you

[storm heron]

w13 level mob fleet when leveled, high difficulty

[lament hazel]

ok

[hollow gust]

even for a faction fleet thats exceedining medicore to even bad

[storm heron]

why is my zuihou having 4k hp only

[sweet delta]

Fr would a 550-640 HP aux be good for more healing?

[zinc cave]

tiny chirp

[lethal escarp]

So for the "Help me, Miss Lala!" event where you do the request for the 7, is it that you unlock a new one every day? Or can I do all 7 together in one day?

[storm heron]

wait actually kinda real, extra heals are 13% per aux

[storm heron]

you can do all 7 once all of them is unlocked

[stark quiver]

days 1-7 are unlocked each day of first week of event

[lethal escarp]

Thank you very much everyone!

[storm heron]

like this bird has less hp than half a nakh

[zinc cave]

400 hp difference to ryuuhou, wao

[storm heron]

umm why is my boss list empty

do people no longer do magato anymore?

[zinc cave]

getting close to the end, maybe

[unique lantern]

i just started one, full list

[sweet delta]

have you tried NOT turning your game off and on again?

[vast sparrow]

any tips on lvling ships to 100 > 120?

im considering moving from 21-4 to 13-1

[zinc cave]

Is there a particular problem you're having?

[vast sparrow]

its so slow

[quartz jungle]

Still has more HP than Shouhou

[sweet delta]

@spring bolt how is your new player augment income? cores, exp stones, how many blue/purple existing augments, event shop, how many weeks of level 35 augment weekly, how many days old is the account?

[quartz jungle]

Yeah I finished my NagatoM like a week ago

[sweet delta]

13-1 is worse xp/oil than 12-4, even assuming you don't need unicorn to carry in the more difficult 13-1

[stark quiver]

Is one strike nagato meta possible

[zinc cave]

yes

u probably dont have the tools adequate for it though

[vast sparrow]

this what im grinding rn on 12-4 (yes im grinding my opsi fleet)

[storm heron]

what a statement!

[sweet delta]

i haven't seen one

[vast sparrow]

all of them are LVL105*

[stark quiver]

I’m a new player so no I can’t

[zinc cave]

exactly

[mellow cape]

I'm so tired reworking all my fleets for a new solo stronghold op si fleet but I think I finally got it

This is my 3 boss fleets. My mobbing fleet was given a sushi seal loll. Last fleet was low-key stretching it but I think it works

Any last advice before I send it through?

[wind hazel]

what the fuck are these

[mellow cape]

Op si fleets

I haven't changed my op si fleet in over 2 years lol. This is a much needed improvement

[wind hazel]

your tanks are all over the place

[mellow cape]

Okay LOL I do need to switch their positions

But just needed the base template down. I'll move Anchorage

[wind hazel]

and Guam

[mellow cape]

Oh and Guam LOL

[novel condor]

Is there even a tank for that Haku fleet

[wind hazel]

none

[mellow cape]

Sirius, I'm stretching thin

Kindaa @-@

[wind hazel]

Guam Kaza Sirius

Agir Helena Plymouth

Anchorage Aurora Laffey2

dont tell me you dont have agir

[little tree]

[novel condor]

[mellow cape]

I dooo but it's on mobbing :<

[novel condor]

Why she on mob? She's usually on boss fleets

[wind hazel]

use other tank for mob

[novel condor]

Wait do ya have any other tanks?

[mellow cape]

@-@

[wind hazel]

like unironically even portland works

maybe you're based and have Azuma

[atomic abyss]

in fact if you dont even have a tank for mob

you might as well just take a tankier DPS like Neptune or Lala and have them instead

[sweet delta]

get a few dozen quick takeoffs then maybe

[mellow cape]

I see yeah I have other tanks but sadly not 125'ed

[atomic abyss]

for opsi mobbing, ya definitely dont need 125 tanks

[mellow cape]

My goal was to solo strongholds with mobbing 😔 but heard

[sweet delta]

they wanted mob to do everything but arbiter so i told them to put bb bb uni aegir hinden someone

[atomic abyss]

what i do is save strongholds till the end of the month

[sweet delta]

i thought that included abyssals

[atomic abyss]

and then just change my mob fleet to something tougher

[novel condor]

Wait how many strongholds can you get per month? Was it 5?

[wind hazel]

i guess you can always change fleet to do bossing later on...

[quartz jungle]

C6 Abbysal stronger than stronghold boss right?

[sweet delta]

6 or 7
in very rare cases, 5

[atomic abyss]

abyssals are stronger than strongholds on the account you cant leave to heal

[novel condor]

Huh guess I've been missing out on some