gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

kawakaze with aug is one of the better DDs definitely

[sinful elk]

What... language is this

[tame jungle]

English

[atomic abyss]

slightly worse than yuudachi retro

OHKO = 1 hit KO
2HKO = 2 hit KO

ofc we usually mean 1 team KO in AL's case

though there are some that go for 1 strike/salvo KO

[sinful elk]

Is this one single fleet enough to mess with the enforcers (gotta get ply to 125)

[wind hazel]

good enough with appropriate adapt tunings lv

good enough might be underselling it

very good*

[forest palm]

good enough is a broad operative phrase

[tame jungle]

Triple UR BB should be fine

[wind hazel]

This fleet will destroy the Enforcers before it can sink your fleet, with appropriate adaptive tuning levels.

It will kill 🔪

[forest palm]

if the fleet doesn't match expectations it's a gear issue

[jaunty vault]

whats an enforcer

[wind hazel]

bad guy in operation siren

[tame jungle]

the gun from tf2 the guys in the siren coordinates

[primal silo]

Will strategic search prioritize missions?

[atomic abyss]

no

[primal silo]

rng?
Fair enough.

[jaunty vault]

yes rng

assuming you mean the random setting

[azure surge]

Ran out of cubes and still missing Nana, what is the most efficient way to buy gems/cubes before the end of the event?

[cobalt rapids]

day 6 pack
blackfriday shop cube discount
the lvl 10-70 packs in akashi shop
normal cubes in akashi shop

well theres also long term like cruise pass and tradelicense but i dont think those are usefull to u rn

[azure surge]

Yeah there is like 3 days left, for gems should I just buy them from the shop or get some pack?

[cobalt rapids]

day 6 pack has best rate
afterwards its blackfriday shop the 25% discounted ones
afterwards its the undiscounted in akashi shop
but the lv10-lv70 packs have very close gem/cube rate to the undiscounted ones and have extra goodies so buy those before undiscounted cubes
its only like 27gems/cube vs 28gems/cube or smth like that

[hushed delta]

no need to rush to missions unless they are those tiles that need to be picked up before they sink or the siren alarm

[azure surge]

Alright thanks ^^

[hushed delta]

only good pack is the 200 gems for one dollah imo

[cobalt rapids]

well thats also a good pack but for buying gems not cubes

[stuck beacon]

hello im a new player, you guys got some sheet guides?

[cobalt rapids]

/guide check newbie tips

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[stuck beacon]

[sharp echo]

finally beat t5 normal but not yet 3 star

oh no...

[soft raft]

#al-general is that way unless you have a question

[clever lance]

I can’t seem to research agir using gold… am I doing something wrong?

[soft raft]

Currently Agir, Haku, all of PR5, all of PR6, and all of PR7 cannot be coined

[sharp echo]

so the question is, theres no way newbies can finish the event right?

[soft raft]

You don't need to clear the TTL stages to finish the event
They're bonus challenge stages that give you lots of event pts

[clever lance]

So I guess they should be prioritized for research/blueprints…?

[soft raft]

yes
tho getting the other PR ships to FS5 (D30 for PR7) will make getting DR BPs much faster

[clever lance]

I’m spread pretty thin on gold right now. Quite painful lol

[soft raft]

then do PR4 researches

[clever lance]

Trying to research monarch (19), fdg (28), and agir (5) and gonna get Plymouth in <1 week lol

[soft raft]

FdG > PR4 > Plymouth in terms of priority

[sharp echo]

what else to buy here after bought momo

[frank pulsar]

chips and bp as needed
you can consider other stuff like cat box and augment module afterwards
buying oil is also a net positive in event pts if you need it

[soft raft]

There's a shop priority in the datamine in the pins

[sharp echo]

ooh found it oke

[mellow cape]

Hidenberg or Brest here? Brest for Alsace or hidenberg with zwei

[forest palm]

well...you're certainly not using either for the faction buff that's for sure, and without context of what this fleet is for it's pretty useless

if this is an ops BB fleet then as is Brest being the tank here works well enough

[mellow cape]

It is op si and I was using hidenberg with zwei cause she buffs iron blood ships with fp and so on. Brest with Alsace for divine sanction

[forest palm]

ya you can ignore those they aren't meaningful enough to strictly follow

[pine hound]

Should I replace my new jersey with Zwei since I'm running a half ironblood formation?

[mellow cape]

Ahh :< okay mmm if I ignore it should I just run Guam loll

[forest palm]

Brest is a tank, and would do fine enough as I already said

[mellow cape]

Fair enough, ty

[soft raft]

Guam would go to the CV Fleet to maintain CV Concealment

[wet badge]

best module on retro eldridge?

[soft raft]

yes
but not because of the faction buff, it's because BZ basically blows NJ out of the water

[pine hound]

So I should replace her???

[forest palm]

couldn't honestly answer that without knowing the full fleet, in a vacuum yes NJ would be replaced by BZ

[frank pulsar]

i dont think theres any situation where nj > zwei tbh

[zinc cave]

Augment Module? Dual Swords.

[forest palm]

ya, but who knows what the hell else they're running in the other 2 slots

[frank pulsar]

fair

[wind hazel]

maybe mlb NJ vs 0lb Zwei too for all we know

[forest palm]

[pine hound]

My team formation this is random:

Hindenburg
Regensburg
New Jersey
Alsace
Brennus
Brest

[wind hazel]

can you take a screenshot

of NJ and Zwei

[forest palm]

wait...what...that's way more vanguards

[pine hound]

Huh I don't get it

[wind hazel]

show us your dock

[soft raft]

How do you have 4 Vanguard ships in a fleet

[pine hound]

That's what I'm saying...

[forest palm]

[zinc cave]

[pine hound]

I don't know o just do what I have since I'm poor and f2p

[forest palm]

just screen shot the fleet

[pine hound]

Okay wait

[soft raft]

no but you physically cannot use 4 vanguard ships
so how the hell

unless you're serverely mis-remembering a name

[late flame]

or make a thread

[inland shoal]

Wym, I can use one Vanguard in the backline and 3 vanguards in the front

[late flame]

HMS vanguard

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 damn he bailed

[forest palm]

[humble iris]

how do I do this 😭😭😔😔

[zinc cave]

you can go diagonal

[zinc cave]

you havent even tried the puzzle you fraud

[wind hazel]

just click HELP ME MISS LALA 5 times

[humble iris]

I DID

[zinc cave]

Spend longer than a minute

[storm peak]

Just keep brainstorming

[humble iris]

Pls cut me some slack.

[zinc cave]

No

[humble iris]

I'm just a poor tired girl

[zinc cave]

No mercy

[humble iris]

PLZ

[zinc cave]

Someone already gave you the bypass solution a few messages back

[humble iris]

I'M SMART AND INTELLIGENT

[zinc cave]

This generation is cooked

[humble iris]

I was born in 1689 but thanks for calling me youthful

Uhm so I can't connect it

[zinc cave]

Diagonals

[humble iris]

Ima Google that

Nvm.

[little tree]

[humble iris]

So uhm I failed to do it

[zinc cave]

[humble iris]

Can u help meh

[atomic abyss]

Well, tap the logo again 5x?

[soft raft]

Dawg

At this point just spam click the title card

[humble iris]

NO I NEED TO CONNECT THE CIRCUIT

[atomic abyss]

The circuit part is much easier tho

[humble iris]

I CANT UNDERSTAND IT

[soft raft]

Dude you havent even put all the pieces on yet

[humble iris]

it keeps failing even tho I did connect everything

[humble iris]

I did like 5m ago

[atomic abyss]

There's a start point and end point

[zinc cave]

Are you drawing the line into the correct direction at the end point

[atomic abyss]

You have to connect the start point to the end point
And not just connect randomly

[humble iris]

wuh luh wuh??

[wind hazel]

[zinc cave]

Pay attention to the end point arrow

[soft raft]

Example

[humble iris]

Ok I just did it on my own thanks I was being blind

[zinc cave]

[little tree]

[forest palm]

Salty Belfast flashbacks

[zinc cave]

At least that was semi complex

[forest palm]

[elfin hollow]

or u could have done it like this

[zinc cave]

Technically another incomplete solution but I'll relent

[undone plover]

Guys I asked this yesterday and I dont think anyone answered
But if a ship is sortied solo does she lose ehp cause in a normal scenario the other 2 frontliners might tank some of the bullets?
Also @slow fox do your ehp calcs assume triple vanguard or solo

[zinc cave]

1. No, basically impossible to calculate due to insane variability
2. Assumes ship is solo

[eternal moth]

This doesn't work as you can't hit the same block more than once

Oh wait, there are 2 solutions there, never mind

[elfin hollow]

bruh

[soft raft]

wdym incomplete? Both of them hit all the squares and go from start to finish

[hushed delta]

Can more than 3 maelstroms be present at the same time in opsi? I've never seen 4

[zinc cave]

You do have to connect the line to the endpoint arrow

[elfin hollow]

thats literally what we did

[remote quarry]

and it does

[eager mulch]

No, only 3 active at a time but they queue up

[soft raft]

and that's what both solutions achive
so I really dont see what you find wrong with it

[elfin hollow]

i think bro is a lil slow

[eager mulch]

[wind hazel]

[hushed delta]

I'm always anxious when 3 appear, I feel the need to do 1 so I don't lose the chance of a new one spawning

[eager mulch]

Nah you can’t lose one, the queue up and appear as soon as one is completed

[hushed delta]

nice, that's a relief ty

[zinc cave]

Just reaching the last block doesnt actually clear it, you have to drag the line in the direction of the arrow is what i mean

[wind hazel]

bro

[hushed delta]

you don't have to

[wind hazel]

you can't be serious now

[sinful escarp]

i didnt have that problem
it just snaps to the middle point when i get close to it

[elfin hollow]

…

[soft raft]

[elfin hollow]

thats not how it works

u literally just have to connect all circuits from start to finish

i dont think bro can fathom that there’s more than one solution

[eternal moth]

No, you don't. There's literally no way to do that on the last puzzle, for example. I tried several times before just stopping on the last block and it completed

[elfin hollow]

im saying for that one specifically

not the last one

[zinc cave]

oh that's true, that one specifically im wrong on

i will take my punishment of being stupid

[tame jungle]

1,5 weeks in we're still arguing over this puzzle huh

[wind hazel]

yes, apologize and give us 200 gems now

[eager mulch]

what else is there to argue about

[zinc cave]

if u pass me ur credit card, ill send you 200 gems

[wind hazel]

reported

[atomic abyss]

[drifting light]

how can i remove the mood notification in the nodes? it stops my auto and i have to manually click again each battle

[tame jungle]

you stop playing and put them in dorm

[zinc cave]

It's there for a reason

[tame jungle]

we do not condone slavery here in gph

[atomic abyss]

you cant
and you should really stop
because you're actively getting penalised

[drifting light]

yeah but i dont care if my ship hates me, keep grinding like a slave

[zinc cave]

xp is halved

[elfin hollow]

if you’re about to lose a affinity lvl u should stop and touch grass

[atomic abyss]

you earn half exp
your ship stats also are reduced

[wind hazel]

no other way to disable it, swap out ship if you wanna continue slaving grinding

[elfin hollow]

or swap in a different ship

[tame jungle]

or touch grass

[elfin hollow]

tsk tsk ship abusers these days

[sinful escarp]

you do know you can have multiple fleets right? not just the 2 mob and boss fleets

[elfin hollow]

this is why dock space is important

[viscid swift]

or grind OpSi

[zinc cave]

Azur Lane Nuzlocke

[atomic abyss]

that's kancolle

[zinc cave]

[atomic abyss]

i mean if your ships sink in KC they are gone for good so yeah, it is an apt comparison

[sinful escarp]

imagine that happening in AL and you lose your UR ship

[elfin hollow]

deserved

for ship abusing

[deep solstice]

Who should I get from medal shop? Or should I save the medals? I have about 800 of them

[trail nymph]

anyone know where I can get the gold materials from without medal shop and hard missions?

[tame jungle]

guild shop might have some
just be diligent and do your daily hard mode. retro prints are a problem until they're not

[wind hazel]

z46 if you still need IB tech, but she can be farmed from Divergent Chessboard. the rest aren't priority too, mostly tech point acquisition like shoukaku zuikaku

[tame jungle]

(golds drop from ch3 hard and onwards)

[wind hazel]

or you can get enterprise again if you don't have her at max limit break, saves you a gold bulin

[trail nymph]

thank you for telling me that I would of spammed the wrong missions well the 3 attempts.

[tame jungle]

just try and clear/farm the highest hard mode you can, you'll get core data from that as well which is a valuable resource

[trail nymph]

ok thanks.

[wind hazel]

carrier retroprints also only drop from x-4 maps

[trail nymph]

oh and one more question, if this covers up to series 7 how comes I can't exchange it for Admiral Nakhimov?

[sleek spade]

Who would this be good on

[wind hazel]

nakhimov is a DR, not a PR

[mellow cape]

You need Dr prints

[stark quiver]

your tank

[sleek spade]

Hmmmm

Wouldn’t tank use washing machine and toolbox tho?

This is not as good in terms of eva as rudder

[trail nymph]

how do I get those?

[wind hazel]

rudder+this is good, if your ship wants double eva

[mellow cape]

Daily research and rng

And focused on PR7 research

[stark quiver]

more eva and speed
tanks have a lot of hp

[sleek spade]

Hmmm perhaps

[trail nymph]

sorry what does that mean? How do I focus for a specific research? ^^"

[sleek spade]

I’ll try it out thanks yall

[wind hazel]

but beaver is better 🫃🏼 so in the end it's really good if you don't have beaver yet

[mellow cape]

You still have a hill to climb over is having enough fleet points to even unlock Nakhimov

Here, you go to your research academy

Tap the bottom right and choose a series focus

[trail nymph]

like this?

[mellow cape]

See that research focus

[stark quiver]

dont do pr7 if ur new

[wind hazel]

im not sure if that's the best for you

[mellow cape]

Ohhh you still haven't done the other prs

[trail nymph]

Am I suppose to do one of each number before I can do 7?

[mellow cape]

If you don't have the other prs done you'll get a lot of random ship researches/series

[wind hazel]

jumping to PR7 straight away is not a good idea

[trail nymph]

how comes? honestly im just getting characters I like the designs of so idk whats good or bad lol

[wind hazel]

1. you will lack a lot of ship tech for them
2. there are better ships to be developed in earlier series

it will halt your progression in a lot of ways

[trail nymph]

so which research ships do you recommend?

[mellow cape]

Well ignoring what's good or bad since they want the ship for looks, getting nakhimov prints will take you AGES since you haven't done the lower tier PRs yet. If you work yourself up, you remove a lot of that series RNG

[wind hazel]

start with 4 or 5

[trail nymph]

this is the only one I did

[trail nymph]

I assume I cant just buy the ticket things I need lol?

[wind hazel]

that's fine, can you develop any ship from series 4?

[trail nymph]

I dont think I can

[deep solstice]

i have her mlb'd so i think ill just get the tech points. who would be best for that?

[wind hazel]

depends on what faction you need

but 800 medals is a lot, you should just look at what faction tech you need and grab whichever, it won't be an issue for you

[mellow cape]

Yeah you have a long way to go, I don't think you'll have enough tech points for nakhimov. DR prints are hard to come by outside of research

[wind hazel]

go back to PR1 and develop Roon/Saint Louis 💀 i assume you unlocked Cheshire with 💳

[trail nymph]

I did yeah. I assume I can do swipe to speed things with the other research ships?

[fierce robin]

Is scharnhorst worth buying from the core shop?

[deep solstice]

so i can develop all the ships in series 1, but working on izumo for now. im assuming prio for sereis two is fdg so id prob want iron blood tech points asap no?

[wind hazel]

think it is only available up to series 4

[mellow cape]

You can also coin up the first .. 4 series I think

[wind hazel]

and only PR, no DR

[mellow cape]

Yep, Dr ships are just basically research only. It gets easier the more series you knock out of the way

[wind hazel]

yes, that would be the case in most situations

[trail nymph]

where would it say if its DR or PR?

[eternal moth]

Gold = PR, rainbow = DR

[fierce robin]

As I’m trying to grind main fleet cexp but only have two iron blood main ships, Bismarck and graf zepplin

[wind hazel]

it's stated here

you can see all the names there, and they are all PR ships

[mellow cape]

Just to give you reference too

[wind hazel]

same for series 2 3 and 4

[mellow cape]

This is what a Dr print looks like

And we haven't even touched what it requires to farm 1.2 and 2.4 million exp to unlock a Dr ship with their faction requirements

Just focus on pr4/5 and coin the lower tiers

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#sn

this is your road to admiral nakhimov, and it won't be easy

hence why you shouldn't jump to 7 straight away

[trail nymph]

okay will do thanks for the help

[deep solstice]

oh yeah i've been meaning to ask. how much should i coin the ships i've developed. For now i've been just doing the first two coins which are free everyday. i've got roon and saint louis developed but at lv 30. saint louis at lv 20 and haven't even started on roon. should that be a priority?

[cobalt rapids]

should move away from coining pr1 ships

and usually the coin income is comfortable enough for 6-10 prints per day

if you reached oilcap

[tranquil rock]

ship abusers detected send in the sirens

[deep solstice]

so don't even do the free ones? or use the bp? but i thought it'd be better to use the general bps i have for other more important series like series 4

[wind hazel]

do the free ones if those are your only PR ships unlocked

if you have someone like anchorage, then do it 10 times a day for a good pacing

[cobalt rapids]

i meant as in you should unlock a higher pr ship like anchorage and coin her instead

[deep solstice]

oh yeah. i just don't have enough tech points yet

[fierce robin]

What’s a good iron blood main fleet to grind for pr

[wind hazel]

nobody in particular, whatever you have really

[fierce robin]

I only have Bismarck and graf, was considering getting scharnhorst from the core shop for three

[wind hazel]

can try farming at divergent chessboard

[cobalt rapids]

dont use coredata on scharn, get her from archive instead

[fierce robin]

Oh right, I just switch Bismarck for king George in my mob fleet

[elfin hollow]

how do u get core points

[ancient socket]

Core data? By playing hard mode stages.

[errant fog]

For Maryland Retro, is it worth it to max her big seven skill or her retro- Final Bound skill?

[elfin hollow]

oh

i should start doing hard mode then

[cobalt rapids]

theres only like 0.1% ships that you dont want to max their skills and mary isnt one of em

[eternal moth]

Most important fleet tech for CA aside from EVA? FP, RLD or HIT?

[cobalt rapids]

fp

[forest palm]

EVA > FP > Hit > RLD/TRP

[eternal moth]

Does the same hold true for CL too? For some reason I can never remember

[sweet delta]

Rld to hit 20s quad mags without oath

[humble iris]

help me

[mellow cape]

Go from the bottom and work back up

Your end point has to be that middle lower green block

[cobalt rapids]

tap this 5 times to solve all puzzles

[knotty dome]

what's a good number of LA9s? i'm looking at the amagi/nano/implac syncs and it uses maximum of 2

[cobalt rapids]

3-4

[eternal moth]

I doubt more than a handful of people have more than 2 at this point; I just finished my first one

[humble iris]

oh my God thank you! I solved everything even the dissappearance of my dad 💕☺️

[cobalt rapids]

it wont show

[knotty dome]

what's the use case for thst many? im currently at 49/50 on my 2nd and debating my research priority

[cobalt rapids]

multi fighter slots carriers anti med

like implac, cat, yorktown 2

[bold salmon]

new meta good?

[cobalt rapids]

only for providing hit tech to BBs

[bold salmon]

ok thanks

[knotty dome]

would that be higher output than the implac/nano/amagi2?

[cobalt rapids]

implac nano amagi 2 use 4 la-9 on med

[knotty dome]

the link sushigummy gave me had them using only 2

[atomic abyss]

well

amagi buffed conv TBs do beat BF-109G against med

but they certainly do not beat the la-9

[cobalt rapids]

prob out of consideration and practicality coz no1 has 4 la-9 rn
but implac would at least take another la-9 on her 2nd slot
nano could stay on conv tb coz she prob wont sync properly with la-9 without sacrificing a catapult

[knotty dome]

they sent the link on oct 18 when i doubt anybody would have had 2 LA-9s then either

[cobalt rapids]

well i can't answer that

[knotty dome]

np

[barren tapir]

2 more reasonable than 4 and it'd age well

[knotty dome]

i'll just ask him again in 6 months when i get my 4th LA-9

[stoic forge]

What torpedo bomber should i get other than wyvern

[cobalt rapids]

ju-87 D4

[stoic forge]

Should i get spearfish

[cobalt rapids]

nah

[mellow cape]

Honestly been doing la9 research over BP focus for PR7. That fomo is getting me hard

Especially since I started late on pr7

[blissful berry]

Do collab characters count towards the overall completion percentage?

Cooooooooool

[soft raft]

Not really a high prio
It's essentially a more expensive sidegrade to Wyvern

[marsh tusk]

are meta ships worth investing resources into?

[cobalt rapids]

For use depends on ship and ur dock
For tech alot have good tech

[marsh tusk]

should i go for 100% them with the dossier then?

cuz its a time sink

[cobalt rapids]

U only need 25k pts in dossier/showdown to MLB em

[cobalt rapids]

Dossiers take like 3 min per day

[sweet delta]

But it's 3 min twice, separated by at least 15 minutes

[marsh tusk]

but you need to find the chips 1st and theres a daily limit

[sweet delta]

Finding the chips is a natural byproduct of actually playing opsi

[cobalt rapids]

Well the coords u find either way coz u should play opsi for gearlab mats and gold plates

[sweet delta]

The main point of opsi isn't the meta ships, it's everything else

[barren tapir]

youd get enough coords by doing enough opsi for the current meta showdown anyway i think

[cerulean musk]

is it true al wont release any more new R ships

[barren tapir]

they havent since 2020 iirc make of that what you will

[cerulean musk]

dam been that long

[mellow cape]

So confused why I'm getting 4 series researches when I already finished series 4

That used to never happen

[sweet delta]

What kind of series 4 researches

It is expected

[mellow cape]

Oh just weapons nvm

Nvm BPs

Just refreshed for more 4 series

[sweet delta]

You didn't get season 4 D as expected

[humble iris]

How to get the commemorative event award

[stark quiver]

Follow the tasks ifygives you

[humble iris]

It keeps bringing me to the dorm

When I tap on the quest

[cobalt rapids]

which quest

[humble iris]

The "get the event commemorative award"

[cobalt rapids]

you have to finish all the tasks for these chips

and get the flying ufo at the end

[humble iris]

Then why bring me to dorm

[cobalt rapids]

coz the ufo is a dorm furniture its weird

[humble iris]

ohh someone told me I'd get 9k gems if I done it

And a free UR

[cobalt rapids]

thats just troll

[humble iris]

It kinda worked

Because I grinded my ass off

[eternal basalt]

Gtrinding your ass won't give 9k gems

[barren tapir]

you had to grind to get that?

[regal lodge]

Should I change anything here?

[soft raft]

Pretty hard to say with like zero context on what this is for

[regal lodge]

mostly escort to clean hard locations

[soft raft]

So a mob fleet? Also where specifically?
Well immediately that's a lot of points off for having no healer

[regal lodge]

so who I should change to healer maybe?

never used healers lol

[soft raft]

Unicorn retrofit is basically a permanent mainstay in mobbing, she's one of the best ships in the game

Also what specific content are you trying to clear? You still haven't answered that question

[regal lodge]

Main Campaign, 14 stage

with other stuff have no problem

[soft raft]

Yeah no you absolutely need a healer in mob fleets there
Esp with Musashi hard tanking for your backline

[regal lodge]

Okay thx

[forest palm]

[tawdry topaz]

are there any DD with double torp?

[cobalt rapids]

double mount?
double preload?
simultaneous 2x load ?

the answers are
yes
shima
no

[tawdry topaz]

double like unzen and shimanto

[vale spindle]

nope theres no dd with simultaneous load on 2 mounts

[cobalt rapids]

the only 2x load ships are emden shimanto and unzen
double preload is unzen shima and ibuki

and harbin if u count her cheating skill

[tawdry topaz]

[vale spindle]

i count harbin!

[tawdry topaz]

emden?

[fallen leaf]

i completed plymouth research to lvl30 but fate simulation didn't start

[vale spindle]

emden has 0 preloads but has simultaneous reloading

[tawdry topaz]

there is no fs5 for her yet

[fallen leaf]

ah okay thanks

[vale spindle]

Save the prints since it will come out eventually

[fallen leaf]

i was relaying on using gold

to use blue prints for agir and hakuryu

[vale spindle]

gold for dr5 ship

[barren tapir]

?

[formal thicket]

helloo, i was wondering if the units in research lab can also appear in event banners ? or are they only available through research ?

[barren tapir]

oh wait i think he means coins on research and using general bps for agir/haku?

[barren tapir]

only research

[vale spindle]

All research ships are research only

[formal thicket]

thanks !

[fallen leaf]

yeah i remember i did FDG that way

[formal thicket]

thank you !

[vale spindle]

fdg you can directly use coin -> print conversion
You cant do that on ships pr5 and above, or DR ships pr3 and above iirc

Forgot if drake is coinable or not i dont think so

[fallen leaf]

man, you learn something new everyday

[tawdry topaz]

I coined her

[vale spindle]

yea its a way to catch up faster on older seasons

[reef flume]

She is

[vale spindle]

you can completely ignore research academy for the lower seasons and focus on higher ones
game automatically doesnt display pr4 or below research unless your focus is on that season xd

[tawdry topaz]

is Azuma - Harbin better then Yat Sen - Harbin in OpSi 200 AP zone auto?

[vale spindle]

You will not notice a difference

[barren tapir]

wait what

i think it's pr3 and lower, i'm pr5 focus and i see pr4 faces and gear here and there

but i haven't ever seen pr3

[vale spindle]

hmmm
guess devs didn't do it after realizing pr4 good

[tawdry topaz]

probably bc DR4 isnt coinable yet

[vale spindle]

mayhaps

[peak umbra]

Pls help. I don't understand what it wants.
It says start with green, and end?

[vale spindle]

Click the title until it solves for you

[peak umbra]

Do you know why it have start point but don't have end?

[fallen leaf]

the green arrow is where you start the red one is where you finish draw a line passing through every box until it connects

[peak umbra]

Doesn't work. It resets

[fallen leaf]

start at the red box with the green arrow pointing at it go downard and connect every box until you end at the green box with the red arrow

[vale spindle]

I just clicked on the title until game solved it for me since I'm lazy and have no braincells

[tawdry topaz]

the color doesnt matter iirc

[tawdry topaz]

or I just tried every combination unitl it worked out

[peak umbra]

As you can see it's doesn't work. I think it's a bug. I should place green detail as the start point

[tame jungle]

yeah it doesn't work bc you put it on the wrong spot

you gotta have the end at the top (above the arrow)

[peak umbra]

@fallen leaf @cobalt rapids thanks. I get it now.

[tawdry topaz]

who is a good backline with Nakhimov - Soyuz if I only have all URs since Bis2 + all DR ships?

[cobalt rapids]

depends on content

[tawdry topaz]

OpSi boss fleets

[cobalt rapids]

another strong cv like amagi or just another top ur bb like alsace

[pliant acorn]

Theres a bug in the fleet builder. Laffey UR wont show

[viscid swift]

that's the outdated one

[pliant acorn]

May i get the new link?

[viscid swift]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[pliant acorn]

Thanks bro

[neon finch]

rarity is everything in this game.....

Ig SR cant ever beat a UR even with oath + UR gears

[wary hawk]

huh

[hollow gust]

That only applies to UR , even then the best ships in the game aren't even UR

[neon finch]

[barren tapir]

blogging goes to #al-general

[wary hawk]

unicorn is like the best unit in the game and shes purple

[barren tapir]

idk about best but probably most used? i mean best depends on what you need

but yeah maybe most important ship to have raised

[cobalt rapids]

yes they can

[barren tapir]

also enterprise like, exists

[wary hawk]

helena

[neon finch]

can good gears take bad ships over heaven?

[cobalt rapids]

#trophy-room message yes

[barren tapir]

and also the growing number of gold bbs who dumpster warspite (i know i know she doesnt count but still)

[sweet delta]

Idk, but bad gear can take bad ships TO heaven

[barren tapir]

then there's the lala > drake thing

also while URs have a huge advantage for the most part, you CAN use other ships, shocker, as long as they're used appropriately and not total dogwater they will perform adequately

[pliant acorn]

Which one is better in world 15?

[hollow gust]

Drake always getting the shade when azuma also exists

[barren tapir]

and what does this mean

[neon finch]

like any ships not special ones (helena.etc) with 457 snd mk7 ?

[cobalt rapids]

its not so simple but usually u want like 1 of the right on ur highest aa slot in fleet

[barren tapir]

listen man a common dd isnt going to outdamage mogador assuming equal gear etc

idk what you wana hear, yes, rarity matters to an extent in a fucking gacha game. that's life.

[neon finch]

take a random fleet without UR ships and beat 15

[mellow cape]

Not just gear lol. Enterprise, Helena, Perseus, Aquila, unicorn, shimato, and volga are some amazing gold ships that beat a lot of UR ships and cover unique roles

[viscid swift]

not happening with an semblance of consistency

[barren tapir]

100% doable on manual

not random fleet tho, you'd still want to take the better end gold ships lmfao

on auto? maybe? i wouldn't know

[viscid swift]

I'm thinking random in this case as basically drawing names from a hat

[sweet delta]

Oops drew a

[barren tapir]

random fleet without UR ships and oops didn't draw any healer

so random, no. but non-UR fleet? probably

the bar for account bonuses and gear is just gonna be higher and it won't be as consistent, but it should be possible

[sweet delta]

Did Jimmy already do that and that's why he tiers Hood two tiers higher than she deserves?

[barren tapir]

what would be the best lineup for that?

[trail nymph]

is there a tier list so I can see how good each character is?

[mellow cape]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime (Not updated)
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[sweet delta]

since when

[mellow cape]

But use it at your own discretion lol

[sweet delta]

"not updated"

[barren tapir]

whoa sushi list

[viscid swift]

huh...

ender has been busy

[barren tapir]

tries to translate image
bigger than 10mb

man i wish i understood chinese

cn tier list is interesting but cant rlly utilize it without knowing criterias

seeing this is funny to me though

[mellow cape]

[hollow radish]

how do you make sandiago ultra rare?

[sweet delta]

Cn wiki page has two lists, one is mainly w15 with a bit of 14 and 13h. The other is opsi

[sweet delta]

Same way you make unicorn super rare. Which you should do before San Diego

[hollow radish]

no idea how to do that...

[cobalt rapids]

go to retrofit tab and complete all the nodes

[wispy star]

i havent logged in a while
im assuming i missed musashi?

[hollow radish]

okkok thx

[void garnet]

What maps are optimal for leveling ships to 70 for limit break

[viscid swift]

use XP packs for that

[cobalt rapids]

t5 if u need event pts
otherwise books or dorms since they wont survive pre lv70 in w12+

[sweet delta]

The blue one is for opsi, meta, and guild boss it seems

[hollow radish]

any tips on the fastest way to get coins?

[reef flume]

Farm

[hollow radish]

farm where??

[reef flume]

Campaign. What chapter are you currently at?

[hollow radish]

just finished 7

[barren tapir]

ngl idk which list is which but both of them put nana next to shima

[reef flume]

I'd say, try to push to 12-4 (Idk if in chapter 7 there are good places to farm). Take your time of course, no need to rush

[hollow radish]

do you think 14k main and 11k vanguard is enough to get there

[mellow cape]

Probably better to value your fleet strength off the comp and not the value itself

[reef flume]

I think yes, but it also depends on your ships' level and gears

[barren tapir]

fleet power is a useless metric

[little tree]

Can you link me cn tier list na one is outdated

[reef flume]

Not to mention, you'll also need a second fleet. But for now, you don't need to bother with it. Until end of chapter 9/chapter 10 you can go with one

[barren tapir]

its right here

at a glance it looks reasonable for the ships i was interested in but i cant read any of it so

[little tree]

I just wanted to see where collab ships ranked

[reef flume]

Fleet can work. But you should try to level your ships higher. And also, try to mlb New Jersey (unless you have other Ultra Rare that could have higher priority)

[barren tapir]

oh im dumb i clicked on something and now i can read a brief summary of their criteria i guess

[hollow radish]

i jsut got her yesterday so im in the process of leveling her 0_0

[reef flume]

Ahh I see

[hollow radish]

if i wanted to use san diago who should i replace

[mellow cape]

Dang wait is your unicorn retrofitted?

[reef flume]

Take your time. No need to rush. You'll eventually get there

[hollow radish]

mine?

[mellow cape]

Yeh

[hollow radish]

i think so

[reef flume]

Laffey. But if you plan to use her, non retrofitted she is good for her AA only. Post-retrofit she does actual damage

For now keep Laffey tho, San Diego is quite expensive to retrofit, take your time with her too

[stark quiver]

In 1 minute, would Sirius buff be more effective for cvs compared to unzens damage

[hollow radish]

okok

[reef flume]

Hope I was of help, but the other people here could help you more than I did

[hollow radish]

yuhh tysm!

[barren tapir]

well according to cn

nana = shima
lala = above drake/azuma
momo = harbin/bayard
yami = around owari/nagato meta?

i have no idea how stuff ranks on the same line or any specifications so take with a major grain of salt

[reef flume]

Wait a sec
My brain is not braining, my math is not mathemating and my waifu isn't waifuing. CN says Lala>Azuma?

[forest palm]

makes sense, Azuma, and Drake are about the same

[barren tapir]

i kinda feel like it's overvaluing them a bit though

but i cant actually say either way bc i have none of the compared ships besides nagatom and i havent actually levelled yami yet since gold bulins are a thing

[reef flume]

They remains Agir victims

[barren tapir]

also it's hard to say their relative strength when idk what the tiers mean, like sure, S- probably means good, but how good? how far away from SS?

[reef flume]

I guess the same that Slaimuda tier list have between TEX and T0

[forest palm]

if majority of the rating is A/S the ship is probably gonna be better than majority of the ships

[barren tapir]

for the w15 primarily tierlist, i can say the vanguard SS and S ranks make perfect sense to me, but everything below that i cant tell since i don't have any familiarity with w15 beyond what i've heard from other ppl

[reef flume]

Goddamn... Momo has to be busted if CN have her on pair with someone like Harbin

[barren tapir]

well that's for w15/w14/w13hm

for opsi momo isnt ranked with cls and instead with buffers and she's ranked with jda, kirovm and helmet

she's probably ranked fairly highly due to fleetwide dmg buff, weak backline heals especially in extended fights (which w15 probably is?) and good damage uptime/mobbing with her strong aoa-like barrage and 2 plant turrets (which can also help with rammers)

she is also reasonably durable and does okay damage herself so bringing her for support isnt gonna be any real liability

[reef flume]

So I should invest in her?

[barren tapir]

[forest palm]

collabs tend to be use them if you like them

[barren tapir]

imo theyre all (golds) strong enough to carry their own weight in content suited for them, at the very least. so if you like them, there is no reason not to invest in and use them

whether i'd invest in them solely for meta reasons...

[dreamy blade]

so I just hit the kms tech to start fdg but I'm still at 80% for roons exp mission do I finish roon or start fdg asap

[forest palm]

the only nagging thing with collab ships is that they give no tech whatsoever

[stark quiver]

are collab ships counted as muse

and what are all the auxes that classify ships as muse

[barren tapir]

yeah, they are good but have alternatives which give tech, which would therefore be a technically more efficient use of bulins/cogs/arrays

[dreamy blade]

there are others besides cosmic kicks?

[forest palm]

collab ships are completely foreign, they're not muse, meta, or children

[dreamy blade]

children are their own faction?

[stark quiver]

im using this fleet for opsi
but im having trouble figuring out how to gear them/how their synergy works, specifically formiU

[forest palm]

muse itself is not a faction btw

[dreamy blade]

yeah i know they're the same faction as the original ship but don't give tech

[barren tapir]

using cn fleet

it probably uses muse aux to get 3 muse ship?

[stark quiver]

it looked interesting so why not
you guys have any idea how the gearing works?

[barren tapir]

cosmic kicks is one, idk the others but im sure they uh exist, werent a couple of them toolkit equivalents (hp stick)

[slow fox]

Solo unless mentioned otherwise or delusional

[agile harness]

is better to farm 12-4 or T5 for research exp

[barren tapir]

oh nvm those dont make you muse

[slow fox]

But, to better answer the question directly, the calcs that I regularly use to determine position-based normalizations to eHP is:

Maintank takes 3/6 of damage
Middle takes 1/6 of damage
Offtank takes 2/6 of damage

Of course, these assumptions are not being verified by anyone in the community, not even myself.

Not that people are proving this assumption wrong, but that no one bothers to test these assumptions.

Assuming that the eHP values are for solo, here's what you can do, to do considerations for position-based eHP.

1: Assume solo eHP ~ tank eHP. This is arbitrary. You could assume solo eHP proportional to tank eHP, but I just chose the scaling factor to be 1

2: The middle ship has her eHP multiplied by 3. This is because 3/6 divided by 1/6 is 3.

3: The offtank ship has her eHP multiplied by 1.5. This is because 3/6 divided by 2/6 is 3/2.

[forest palm]

12-4 would be better, but if you're not done with event then T5

[sweet delta]

Does that mean sandwich Napoli with Eldridge and Jeanne is like 800% ehp?

[slow fox]

Also have to consider Eld skill and JdA skill proccing in Napoli for that.

More like 1000 ~ 1300 maybe

[pliant acorn]

My world 15 fleet and their builds. Pls correct me if i have wrong builds

[reef flume]

Tbh it should work fine although I think (and most does) that Musashi would do a better job in the mob fleet

[stark quiver]

i woulnt trust musashi in mob here

[reef flume]

Otherwise it works👌

[pliant acorn]

Top is mob and bottom is bossing

[stark quiver]

yea i know, i was responding to this

[pliant acorn]

@sweet delta can you check my fleet?

[toxic sandal]

reached 60/60 in wararchives, do i just pick one for the ship that i'd want or are there stages/gear worth farming there?

[mellow cape]

Sushi approval seal is real

[pliant acorn]

Thanks bro!

[stark quiver]

give sandy/chesh a sextuple and put the UR aa on laffey2

[dreamy blade]

don't really have to worry about capping war archive keys but generally chessboard for kms tech if you need it

low prio while an event is running if you didn't hit 55k points yet

[toxic sandal]

ok thanks

[reef flume]

Can you elaborate please?

[little tree]

Well sounds good enoughe to me to use bullins

[sweet delta]

I agree with what other people said except that Musashi can do either fleet

[dreamy blade]

and there isn't really anything worth farming for except maybe ark royal or cosmic kicks

[stark quiver]

without a dedicated backline healer like aquila, musashi might be a bit unreliable, from my experience

[reef flume]

Fair point, fair point

[pliant acorn]

Thanks again guys

[hollow gust]

Just get two musashis , ez game

[pliant acorn]

Follow up! I forgor the support fleet and sub. Here

[stark quiver]

Looks good, might want the snorkels

[prime glacier]

hi! what meta unit should I researh? Hityuu?

[pliant acorn]

Which one should i remove to place the snorkels

[stark quiver]

Probably oxy torps

[soft raft]

If you mean the META Faction ships, in terms of pratical use, Elites are dogshit, and the SR ones can be summed up as "Good but better options exist/you are probably using said better options to get their points in the first place"

In terms of fleet tech:

[prime glacier]

so they are for tech points?

is end game cv heavy?

[undone plover]

Thank you mebot

appreciate the detailed answer

[sweet delta]

@pliant acorn you can't use snorkel and compressed together. Snorkel is the upgrade to compressed

[stark quiver]

Oh bruh I saw the hull on one

[sweet delta]

And gold augments aren't required (and do nothing but +5 or +10 avi) for support CVs

[soft raft]

technically you'll be using CVs and BBs roughly equally
At most you'd have a anti-light CV Fleet but I rarely use it outside of Temperance Arbiter boss

[pliant acorn]

Thw end game is submarine and plane hell

[terse dune]

does thjis matter?

[stark quiver]

Your fleet formation setting matters

[terse dune]

how do i know what is good

[vale spindle]

yes, set it to double line always unless you are bombarded with planes killing you then you set it to circular
you can set it to single for the braindead farming stages but im head empty who doesn't remember to change it back so i always keep it as double so i don't forget

[stark quiver]

You mostly use double line cuz more Eva stat
And circular for more AA

[ocean orbit]

is it okay to spend t1 exp data packs?

[vale spindle]

yes esp if its on ships you are using frequently

[coarse heron]

They have a hard cap so you have to.

[ocean orbit]

i leveled up helena and portland

[terse dune]

both mob and boss double?

[ocean orbit]

also what is a good replacement for houshou meta ( early game)

[vale spindle]

yes

unless you fit into one of the exceptions i mentioned

[stark quiver]

Enterprise, or probably any other cv you have
Saratoga, and all those work, just not blue

[vale spindle]

[ocean orbit]

she is that bad wow

[stark quiver]

Elite meta ships are notoriously bad

[ocean orbit]

i have lexington - yorktown -erebus and giulio

[terse dune]

does fleet formation do anything other then give stats i need to know about?

[vale spindle]

its just the stats

[stark quiver]

No,
Info dump
Double for most situations, more Eva
Circle for more AA
Single for torp memes (torpedo spam)

[reef ice]

can you auto finish supply line daily yet

[terse dune]

ty ty ive been in single literally 92 levels XD

[reef ice]

i just never did that daily cause it was aids

[stark quiver]

Yes, if you get an S score on it at least once

[reef ice]

urghhhhh i hate that daily so much

[stark quiver]

Also, since bidders are the most standard sub torps in game, to craft them, you’d want the mk VIII purple torps, and to get them, you’d wanna do lvl 65 sub raids

[reef ice]

i have never optimized my gameplaty before. i just throw random bullshit go

[gray sphinx]

dooo you have royal fortune or mary celeste? If you level them up enough you can basically cheese that daily

[reef ice]

i do have those

wait royal fortune is not a meme?

i just have her maxed out cause shes hot

[gray sphinx]

for supply line daily clear no not really a meme

[soft raft]

More like she's only not a meme in this one very specific area
Otherwise yeah she's a complete joke

Insert gif of her dying to the Strength Arbiter's big stomp here

[stark quiver]

#gameplay-help message

[gray sphinx]

just try it with royal fortune. I used this setup to beat the daily and I think her alone lol. Should work with royal fortune too

[reef ice]

wait i can use all of them

i also just have those boats cause hot

[stuck stirrup]

Are there any CVs or CVLs that have a half-loaded (or reduced) first launch?

[terse dune]

when was the next UR scheduled for release

[barren tapir]

independence

definitely more than just her but shes a very good one and the first i thought of

[stuck stirrup]

Works for me, thank you

[gray sphinx]

somewhere near the end of december is when we can expect one

[barren tapir]

25% reduced, if you want more then not her, but she desyncs very well if that's what you need

[stuck stirrup]

Yeah, looking for a desync

[terse dune]

ima just hold my bullins for new ur incase its good

[elfin hollow]

to be fair all the recent URs we’ve gotten have all been good

[terse dune]

i just came back got none of the mxD

[hollow gust]

Musashi?

[spring bolt]

luna, impero, akagi muse, akaga, bearn, bearn meta

[gray sphinx]

how does one tell what ships are good against certain armor types for bosses just based off of kit, gear, and stats?

[reef flume]

For BBs usually depends on Barrage armor modifier

For Vanguards iirc Torpedo boats are better against heavy

[gray sphinx]

how do you find the barrage armor modifiers on BBs? And what about for CVs and CVLs?

[reef flume]

There is a website

[gray sphinx]

doooo you have said website?

[hollow gust]

For 95% of BBs it depends on what main gun you use, for 95% of CV it depends on planes u use, for vanguards it often doesnt matter if since they are support

[reef flume]

When it comes to CVs iirc it's mostly based on loadout

[reef flume]

Ion remember how is it called. But some people here does

[gray sphinx]

hmmm okay. I was just kind of confused on how people get to the point of saying like soyuz/kearsage/yorktown II is for like light/med and shinano/implacable/hakuryuu is for heavy

[reef flume]

Implacable works for both light med and heavy

[gray sphinx]

I would assume considering how useful it is to have a freeze no matter what armor type

[reef flume]

Actually, barrage armor mod for BBs does the difference. That's mostly why you say stuff like Bismarck Zwei is for light armor and Musashi is for Heavy armor

[hollow gust]

if you are using UR BBs the only thing u care about is ur main guns, Musashi sucks on light not becuase of her barrage....

[reef flume]

Yes and no. She have a flexible slot where she can equip all types of planes. You could equip her with two HVAR and a TB for light, two BF109G and a TB for Med, and one La-9/fighter that does well against heavy and two TBs

[hollow gust]

its her gun choices that stop her from also being the best light bb

[reef flume]

That doesn't change her armor mod for light armor in her barrage is only 100 compared to the 140 of BZ and the 150 of Alsace's

[hollow gust]

other then her all the actual UR bbs doesnt give a fuck about armor type, give the correct gun, and you will have basically the same performance

[gray sphinx]

so for CVs and CVLs it's just more about knowing the loadouts that the ships can use and having gear knowledge?

I'm gonna wait to see how easily I clear W14 before I figure out if I want to cook a W15 fleet yet or not lol

[hollow gust]

that doesnt really care about armor type, unless u are fighting light bosses, in that case all u do is swap 1 bb gun

strong ships are the most important part

[gray sphinx]

I mean I think I have "strong" ships but no guam or laffey II so W15 might be a tiny bit sweaty. Are resets necessary in W15 like the guide mentions?

[hollow gust]

people have cleared w15 before guam or laffey, its entirely dependent on wether u can field good fleets

[gray sphinx]

I think I might have the ships but I guess I'll have to take a look at what I can make when the time comes for me to clear W15. I've seen JDA used in W15 is she part of the good ships to use or just replaceable?

[reef ice]

faction fleet for northen parlment

[viscid swift]

for what content, and can you even put together a half decent NP fleet

[reef ice]

just something that works. i am currently just throwing random ships on their while i grind for pr russian lady

[viscid swift]

you don't need a faction fleet for that

[reef ice]

its tradition for me though

[viscid swift]

just use 3 Norther Parliament main fleets that need levels

[reef ice]

i max out all the ships and just use it as a reason to use them

[viscid swift]

maxing every ship in the game doesn't mean you have to use a faction fleet for everything

[reef ice]

but i think its cool im sorry. i dont do hard content anyways

[native moss]

please halp

[reef ice]

surely i can scrape something together that works sumwhat ok

[viscid swift]

tap on help me miss lala 5 times

[reef ice]

so uh, any suggerstions

[native moss]

[viscid swift]

just fo reference that's what I'm currently using to farm W12, it was working even when the average level was 100

[reef ice]

whats this

i am extremely casual]

[viscid swift]

point is you can get away with a lot in W12 on safe

[reef ice]

if not, im just gunna keep rocking whatever garbage ive brewed if you got no sub optimal ideas

[viscid swift]

I'm saying one, don't force a NP vanguard when you don't have to
two, Soyuz and Volga would be useful later on other than just for XP and tech

[reef ice]

its not about having to, i just find it amusing to use faction fleets

[viscid swift]

last main fleet slot of be default is Rossiya, and Bellorussiya, puck one, doesn;t matter which

[viscid swift]

you can do what you choose

I'm just stating up front that it's unecessary and potentially quite wasteful

[reef ice]

als you have 3 fubukis

oh wait, i forgot about fubuki, fubuki

[viscid swift]

that's not what that's referenceing

[reef ice]

ty king

[reef ice]

oh wait so theres 4

[viscid swift]

no just 3

[reef ice]

but kawakaze

[viscid swift]

her name isn't Fubuki similar as they are, it's just a joke about the ever-increasing number of ships in AL with the same name that aren't variants

[reef ice]

@viscid swift suh uh, if i wanted to force a np vangard what would you suggest

cause i just use whatever appears to be the strongest skills

like uhh

[viscid swift]

just about anything works because the content you will be farming will be difficult enough for it to really matter so long as they're half decently equipped and not severely underleveled

[reef ice]

Oookie

[viscid swift]

I will say though that a 0 limit break Kronshtadt is really shit and just about anything else will be better

[reef ice]

im sitting on a stock pile of prot buli

i just sorta have her so i was thinkin of usng her just for the sake

[viscid swift]

at the very least you should max limit break soyuz first

and potentially other ships have higher priority than even her depending on what you hav

[viscid swift]

MLB does make a huge difference to a ship's perfromance

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[paper mural]

Does Amagi CV replace Shinano or Haku in the IJN CV comp?

[forest palm]

Haku

[paper mural]

That takes me by surprise. I thought Haku came out on top, between the two

But then again, Shinano has that buff, I guess

[eager mulch]

haku has more personal damage than nano, but shinano contributes more with her buffussys

plus shinano has a more TB focused loadout which gets buffed by amagi cv

[low juniper]

What is the IJN cv fleet

[eager mulch]

shinano, amagi cv, implac/cat

[low juniper]

Cat?

[forest palm]

Nahkamov

[low juniper]

Also I didn't know Implac was IJN

[elfin hollow]

She is not.

But slow is a must.

[trail nymph]

does anyone know after I spend the 500 gems to unlock the 2nd floor would the whole floor be available?

[paper mural]

Nakhimov requires one more NP ship though, right? Or is the slow actually enough?

[whole crypt]

2/F copies the number of slots you have unlocked on 1/F

I wouldn't really use Nakhimov for IJN comp

[paper mural]

While I'm at it, might as well ask: what other NP ship even applies a slow for Nakhimov to take and turn into a timestop?

[low juniper]

So then what if one doesn't have Implac or Nakhimov

[forest palm]

August

[paper mural]

Yeah, I'd sooner use AvP personally

[whole crypt]

AvP FS5
Ark Royal

[forest palm]

This is one of a few comps commonly used

[paper mural]

Why Guam though? Does she buff CV damage or decrease enemy AA?

[whole crypt]

not saying you should do it but I just went Hakuryuu/Shinano/Amagi and coped with Mogador

[prime glacier]

Hi! is there a way to farm these fast?

[soft raft]

Maintain concealment

[soft raft]

yes
it's called doing your OpSi Daily missions

[whole crypt]

repeat secure stages in OS

[pseudo hearth]

Can I do this with Nano, Haku, Implac?

[whole crypt]

if you don't have Amagi yes

[forest palm]

if you lack Amagi, or don't have her in a usable state, yes

[paper mural]

Wait, how does Guam ensure concealment?

[zinc cave]

She has high AA to kill planes to stop them from crashing into the back
She has a proximity crossfleet* barrage to stop mobs from crashing into the back

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't say ensure but good AA means you can reduce planes hitting your boss fleet for concealment

prox barrage is only crossfleet

[paper mural]

Then why not Sandy Kai?

[zinc cave]

She doesn't inherently maintain concealment, just has skills that contribute to it

[whole crypt]

because San Diego doesn't double as a tank

[paper mural]

oh, so the point is, you can help concealment without sacrificing Kazagumo or Sirius

[barren tapir]

i mean she is 116% according to mebot, but idk how much her AA is inflating that

[whole crypt]

even if it wasn't bloated by AA you're not doing a lategame boss tank with 116%

[stark quiver]

Does being hidden/concealment mean I take less or do more damage

[forest palm]

do more

don't remember if it's in the detection command, but something people should read either way

[barren tapir]

being concealed reduces enemy's AA damage resistance multiplier by an additive 10% (ie, from -70% to -60% as an example)

[dreamy blade]

I imagine it's less about aa padding and more about needing planes for her to shoot at to activate her skill (to get the DR from her aug)

[junior walrus]

Getting pretty impatient, am I wasting resources if I use medals to get these last blueprints for retrofit?

[dreamy blade]

yes, don't do it

they cost way too many medals

buy out the guild shop and refresh it if you haven't, might get lucky and get them there

[junior walrus]

Guild shop has a chance at gold blueprints?

[barren tapir]

nah what i mean is like, mebots thing is 33/33/33 damage split, so sandy is 116% average, but is probably higher vs avi and lower vs torp and fp

[zinc cave]

Not really recommended, they're pretty expensive for how little mileage you get out of them

[barren tapir]

which is why she isnt considered a tank even though on paper she is like a good bit better than portland

[dreamy blade]

Ahh, tho should be decent vs torp since she's light armor

[zinc cave]

On occasion yeah

[steel gale]

is the module development daily supposed to be crazy difficult? As a newish player with lvl90-105 ships, I am completely unable to beat this monster of a belfast, with my frontline dying quickly. Backline seems to have 100% misses too - possibly an accuracy issue?

[barren tapir]

how many medals do you have and how active do you play

an active player who plays a lot can get 1k+ medals a month which means for smth this important it's not the worst to buy retro bps to finish the final node

but if you're more casual and would have trouble getting gold bulin + spec core + ships + DR prints, then i'd just wait on it

[cedar willow]

should i buy gear slot? my depot is 310 rn, but 'bout 1/2 are purple. Don't know which to keep or not...

[barren tapir]

honestly idk cos i breezed through it and dont even remember what it was like. post fleet and maybe we can see what is happening

[viscid swift]

there's a safe to scrap list in #bot-spam /equip
also throw gear on ships you're not using

[weary gust]

You can store extra gear on your ships not being used.

[barren tapir]

no dont, big waste of gems. you can check https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cv and https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment for what is good to keep

[junior walrus]

No cap I bought a gold with them and regretted it so wanted a consensus on if I should keep doing it. I’m still playing daily so I’m getting plenty. Never thought about guild shop though and I was able to retro Portland!

[barren tapir]

smh flexing. i havent seen retro bps in my guild shop in quite a while

[barren tapir]

nice nice

i did medal bp only once and it was worth to me but idek what it was for.

[junior walrus]

Yeah just if it was a bad decision I didn’t want to keep making it lmao

[barren tapir]

its usually a bad decision but it's unicorn specifically we're talking about which id argue is worth it

[zinc cave]

Not 100% a bad idea, just take into account your medal income and current needs of other resources in the shop

[barren tapir]

but only if you can make back those medals relatively quickly

[steel gale]

bottom left corner says "your main fleet deals reduced damage", so I guess backline missing is intentional. Frontline still completely melts though!

[dreamy blade]

Another way to check is tap on the gear in your depot to see if it's used in gear lab

[junior walrus]

I stopped farming event and started pushing campaign again so hopefully I can make up for it with higher hard mode stages

[barren tapir]

since we're at the start of a month, you do have plenty of time to farm medals for the important medal shop things, so i wouldn't consider it too risky

[junior walrus]

I’ll give it a couple days lol

[barren tapir]

you need vg to do the damage for this then

portland should be on left. idk what ship left is

[zinc cave]

Pola

[barren tapir]

you might also be too low level, what level is the boss?

[barren tapir]

no, the boss

[late flame]

gear issue

[steel gale]

its supposed to be lvl 75! I believe I am being gaslighted

[dreamy blade]

If youve already 3starred the x-4 hard mode stages you're able to, then it might be rough to get those gold bps and yeah it wouldn't be the worst way to use your medals

[steel gale]

she's level 90, once I get in the map

[barren tapir]

no. level 75 is commander level. that's different from ship level

oh, that shouldnt be too big an issue. levelling your ships more will help though

[steel gale]

hahaha silly me

[dreamy blade]

Also replacing Phoenix with a ship that does dmg may help

[barren tapir]

for like anything else i wouldnt but yeah unicorns last node is a gamechanger, id actually sacrifice a gold bulin for it (if it had been necessary)

[dreamy blade]

Like your starter if they are similarly leveled

[steel gale]

makes sense. I was trying to deal with the survivability issue, but will try to just kill

[barren tapir]

phoenix does damage

source: used her

shes a very vanilla but fine early to midgame gunboat cl, i dont think she is the issue

[dreamy blade]

Probably more of a gear/levels issue

[barren tapir]

very likely a gear issue. levels is on parity but for low gear that's gonna hurt

[dreamy blade]

Tanky vanguard dying with double healer back line is

Somethings not mathing

[barren tapir]

problem is i cant even remember what this one is like cos i did it once, won, and just sweeped it ever since

so i cant offer anything more specific beyond 'gears and levels'

[dreamy blade]

Yeah the only daily raid I couldn't do first attempt is the stupid sub weekly

[zinc cave]

got any battleships, the enemy Belfast is light armor

[barren tapir]

and i already sweeped it this week so i cant go in and peek

[cedar willow]

I understand the guide, but not sure how much to keep. Usually how much of each purple or transition item do i need?

[barren tapir]

you can keep a few, if you need depot space just toss them onto random ships

[steel gale]

I'll try upgrading my gear a few levels too. Most things are +6, some +8. All my backline BB's have a 100% miss rate, which i believe is intentional by design for this particular raid

[dreamy blade]

Pretty sure it doesn't matter, your back line deals heavily reduced dmg there

[viscid swift]

have you read the safe to scrap guide?

[queen jackal]

does this drop from any specific research projects ive been at 4/5 for like over a month

[barren tapir]

yeah i think i used cvs anyway

[dreamy blade]

Yeah those CVS are good choices imo

[barren tapir]

since they barely do damage double healer is actually fine yea

[dreamy blade]

What auxillaries do you have on your vanguard?

[barren tapir]

sara is also not bad cos she buffs vg damage xd

[dreamy blade]

Also for the vanguard dmg from sara

[barren tapir]

like yeah on the surface i dont see any glaring issue with that fleet for it

[steel gale]

most vg's are wearing a +6 repair tool, and a +3 evasion thingy

[viscid swift]

I do remember Belfast needing at least a few salvos from Zwei, UvH, and Vanguard to go down

[barren tapir]

get the evasion thingys to +6 cruisers need eva. but idk if that'll be enough to prevent them from dying

[steel gale]

going to try again with +8 weapons and auxes. Maybe fit a manual torper in there

[dreamy blade]

Yeah seems like you just need to level your gear to at least +8 and ships to 100ish

It's a weekly so you have time

[barren tapir]

you'd probably be better off with gunboats since she's light armor

[barren tapir]

i think it is random

[dreamy blade]

Definitely gunboats with HE guns

[cedar willow]

i read, and scrap only which safe to scrap, the left ones just too much to handle

[viscid swift]

huh?

[cedar willow]

oh so that's a way. I thought it still count in depot even when equipped

[zinc cave]

RNG, what type of researches are you taking

[barren tapir]

i checked wiki and cant find any more info on that weekly sadly

[viscid swift]

I guess they're kind of rare

[barren tapir]

game would be hellish if that was the case so glad it's not

[queen jackal]

faces when i have spare coins, otherwise i usually do rigging analysis

[viscid swift]

compared to the usual stuff anyway

[zinc cave]

unless its an DR, i would skip 8 hour gold face researches, quite expensive and long for low return in comparison

[viscid swift]

ay?

[zinc cave]

5 hours purple faces are still okay but i prefer 2.5 hour blue faces to get through researchs faster

[storm heron]

nah gold > purp > blue

[cedar willow]

Another question, should i rush to pr/dr7 asap? i've already got Roon, FdG, Ply mlb; Kearsarge, Agir, Brest stil 3*

[zinc cave]

no reason to rush to pr7 unless you want a ship there

[cedar willow]

so it's better to mlb the lower ones first?

[storm heron]

pr7 is better than pr6, it's up to you to not do brest if you have other cb options available

[viscid swift]

start working on Anchorage and AvP next

[cedar willow]

ah anchor mlb too

[viscid swift]

AvP next then

[storm heron]

avp fsV where

I mean you can coin em and just do pr7 focus

[viscid swift]

wouldn't reccomend it

[barren tapir]

oh they do still need agir

[viscid swift]

and more importantly gear

[storm heron]

oh didn't see that agir

[barren tapir]

well depends how much, if any, pr4 they have done so far imo

[storm heron]

did you know the yesterday discussion when riceist invaded

[cedar willow]

do i still need AvP with these CVs?

[barren tapir]

also jesus that is one cramped dock

[viscid swift]

I saw bits of it when I was doing some catchup

[cedar willow]

well it's just many things to do

[barren tapir]

you want avp fs5 for her stop

[viscid swift]

yes

[barren tapir]

then youd have a very gamer cv fleet with amagi shisleep and avp

[junior walrus]

Around what campaign level is a second fleet going to be neccessary?

[cedar willow]

ok thanks, i'll do avp next. Ah but i used all catch-up for anchorage, so it might takes time for her to fs5

[barren tapir]

just coin 10 a day and youll get there soon enough

[cedar willow]

yap, forgot that

[barren tapir]

ch9-12 depending on how strong your 1 fleet is

[storm heron]

alright yea akii I agree on the prIV focus since prIV = prV > pr VII

[cedar willow]

Oh! I thought it only gives good gears from pr5

[storm heron]

nah all prIV gear is very good

[cedar willow]

Ah okay, i'll do focus pr4, just realized my agir is only 100bp short

[barren tapir]

pr4 is the best gear series

[storm heron]

prio on taking avp and agir, and then come back for tenrai print check after they are maxed

[cedar willow]

well tenrai, it must takes a long time to get one

anyway, ty all

[queen jackal]

should i skip haku for now, my cv fleet is shina amagi avp and i think i need more frontline was thinking of doing plym/brest

[zinc cave]

yeah if you have shinano and amagi already, haku drops in terms of usefulness

[ionic remnant]

man, I look at beginners with their 200+ dock cap and then look at my 950 dock capacity account and think, where did my addiction start...

[soft raft]

Did you have like a question?
#al-general otherwise

[ionic remnant]

oh right sorry

[storm heron]

poor guy

[ebon storm]

should i use champagne gun or a low rld gun for tamaki?

[zinc cave]

Bossing, sync with your fleet
Mobbing, stagger your salvos apart for uptime

[storm heron]

457 for campaign that matters, champ gun for med/heavy boss, mk7/mk6 for light boss

[elfin hollow]

Should i complete newcomer event or just ignore it,i dont really want to spend too much time just to lv up portlane

[viscid swift]

you should be using Portland anyway early game so

[sharp socket]

portland is good tank until you get better tank

[zinc cave]

If you are a newcomer Portland is very useful

[elfin hollow]

Nah im already have sr one

[sharp socket]

the better tank being anchorage at d30

[viscid swift]

ay?

[ivory pawn]

Your SR tank wouldn't happen to be Prinz Eugen, would it?

[elfin hollow]

Nope

[tranquil rock]

is it possible to use laffii when she is 4 star (needs one more lb to become mlb) and all her skills r maxed

[viscid swift]

you can, I wouldn't

[zinc cave]

What kind of tank ships do you currently have

[elfin hollow]

Idk im currently using 3 ship from collab event

[viscid swift]

can you even afford to max limit break them all

and anyway, you'll need a 2nd fleet sooner rather than later

[elfin hollow]

Alr

[viscid swift]

and I emphasize the MLB part

[ebon marten]

Quick question who do i choose from here?

[viscid swift]

Cheshire probably but who do you have

[elfin hollow]

Idk how to do this one and what are those ship?

[grizzled sundial]

You have FDG yet ?

[ebon marten]

I can also choose from the pr4 as well

[viscid swift]

eagle union vanguard ships means ships from the eagle union faction that go in the front of your fleet

[viscid swift]

give that a read and get
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
Anchorage and Odin from those

[ebon marten]

Ok ty

[paper lantern]

are the event challenge stages anything special or can i just unga bunga

[storm heron]

unga bunga with 6 URs yes

[paper lantern]

nice

[zinc cave]

LB2 Laffey II is still decent if the skills are maxed because of sheer UR power. LB3 is a lot of stats though.

[tranquil rock]

i used her and she is competing with my normal laffey retrofit

[zinc cave]

UR power

[tranquil rock]

literally both are evenly matched in terms of dmg n stuff

[viscid swift]

yeah you aren't exactly using Laffey 2 for her damage

[slow fox]

Can I get a source on the 33/33/33 senator

[tranquil rock]

she has amazing dmg and a shit ton of barrages though

[viscid swift]

her damage is unimpressive in the grand scheme of things

and a retrofitted starter is not a high bar to clear

[zinc cave]

They didn't see the gazillion enemy columns ig

[tranquil rock]

fair

[viscid swift]

you're using her for her ability to survive and if applicable AA

[tranquil rock]

i already have otto for that though

[viscid swift]

Laffey 2 is much tankier than Otto