gameplay-help

[fluid umbra]

On release she was basically meta bb

[crimson glacier]

she still is the best BB in the game for campaign

[whole crypt]

she's still a meta BB

[blissful hamlet]

she's still better than 99% BB on the game

[fluid umbra]

Not my first language apologies

[crimson glacier]

she still is at the top of meta so idk what you mean

[fluid umbra]

Dunno, haven't seen people using her as often as on release

[blissful hamlet]

the only BB better than musashi are alsace and soyuz and even alsace is pretty cope

[whole crypt]

depends what you're using this for but I don't see Napoli being worse than Anchorage any much besides needing much more investment research wise

[blissful hamlet]

so musashi is still top tier

[wind hazel]

musashi king 🧎🏼‍♂️

[crimson glacier]

if i could only have 1 UR BB, id probably pick musashi

[storm heron]

there is a possibility that the content you consumed are flex contents which they complicate themself by not using musashi

[warm condor]

Those cat names

[storm heron]

for example, no UR ch15

[whole crypt]

Musashi is best UR BB for campaign, and still top for heavy

you don't see her used as often where, there's always a use context

[fluid umbra]

Can I use her for light or is that 40 Light AP modifier gonna hit me back

[whole crypt]

you can use a HE gun instead but her barrage is not as good against light, and the only IJN HE guns are all twin

[warm condor]

I dont understand any of this, is that normal?

[fluid umbra]

I'm using the 20s reload gold ijn. Don't remember the name.

Using it to sync.

[wind hazel]

normal situation is that you don't use Musashi against Light armour boss

[storm heron]

was musashi ever used for light? on release?

[whole crypt]

you lose more damage trying to sync if it's a light boss

[fluid umbra]

Would Monarch do better?

[crimson glacier]

she was never used on light

[blissful hamlet]

yes if you don't care about sync

[crimson glacier]

monarch? lmao

[fluid umbra]

Mis ping, @storm heron

[whole crypt]

you only used Musashi on light if you were lazy to swap the BB fleet

[fluid umbra]

I have Hood, Monarch, Musashi as options for BB/BC

[wind hazel]

get FDG

[storm heron]

since people just used uvh nj vang for light yes?

[fluid umbra]

Lacking IB Tech, leveling roon atm

[wind hazel]

get FDG later*

[storm heron]

which mean musashi loses nothing from day 1

[fluid umbra]

How bad is monarch, she's done some dmg for me so far

[wind hazel]

mediocre

[fluid umbra]

Huh, ok

[crimson glacier]

well if musashi is mid, monarch is fucking dead, worse than a corpse

[fluid umbra]

I'm expecting massive damage bumps when musashi hits 120

[crimson glacier]

dmg doesnt really spike up

except on limit breaks

[storm heron]

dmg on level increase is almost linear

[whole crypt]

why would any ship just suddenly spike from hitting 120, you just gain stats and level advantage gradually

[fluid umbra]

It's for Nagato so just need to bridge the level gap no?
Unless she works at 115 here

[crimson glacier]

you get slightly more dmg every level

[fluid umbra]

Oh, I meant the spike from swapping musashi into the fleet replacing monarch.

Damn my english is having issues

[crimson glacier]

id expect 115 musashi to still beat 120 monarch with ease

[storm heron]

yeah maybe even 105 beats 120 in campaign

[fluid umbra]

Gear looking good?

[crimson glacier]

yes

[fluid umbra]

Kk tysm, swapping her in

[crimson glacier]

AA gun could have hit or fp but thats about it

[barren tapir]

worse than nelson iirc

[fluid umbra]

Monarch was my first PR and has been my BB for 90% of my playtime

[storm heron]

me 2 years ago before gph arc

[opaque gate]

is hakuryu the strongest pr4?

[atomic abyss]

Hard to say tbh
Agir, Hakuryuu and Anchorage are all extremely strong

[opaque gate]

i see, thanks

[hollow sail]

haku prob the most relevant atm, with eld retro's existence now

bringing other tanks value down a bit

[reef flume]

When it comes to pr4 backliner yeah she is

[humble solar]

Which among these can I still use on late game

[wind hazel]

illustrious

u47 too i guess

[cinder hornet]

any easy way to check which gear can I burn?

[storm heron]

500 gear

[wind hazel]

no need to burn, just equip them on your unused ship

[humble solar]

Why do I keep seeing one-skill carriers as late game carriers

[storm heron]

there's only 1

you don't level illustrious's skill for late game

[cinder hornet]

if it's equipped it doesn't count for capacity? and does that apply to all rarities? I mean, should I equip all rarities?

[wind hazel]

yes, and yes

[coarse heron]

just Enterprise bruh

[humble solar]

Is it her stats then?

[wind hazel]

but grey gear is safe to scrap if you really wanna scrap lol

[coarse heron]

it's because of how many fighters she has, you use her for W15 support fleet

[humble solar]

So a mob fleet?

[coarse heron]

Not a mob fleet

[wind hazel]

no, a support fleet

[humble solar]

What's a support fleet 😭

[storm heron]

late game thingy

[coarse heron]

W15 has a special thing where you choose 3 Carriers

[wind hazel]

it's only introduced in w15

[storm heron]

just don't raise her until you need her

[coarse heron]

all they do is send out extra planes based on their level and stats

[humble solar]

Okay

[storm heron]

z1 littorio taihou belfast

[coarse heron]

It just so happens that the 3 versions of Lusty are some of the best Carriers for this

[humble solar]

I'm really clutching straws on who to put on Opsi now since I keep getting my ships sunk

[wind hazel]

raise adapt level

[coarse heron]

well first off if your adapts are low that's why

[humble solar]

It's like at 95-108

[storm heron]

nu wandah

[wind hazel]

and what zone are you doing?

[humble solar]

Somewhere around NY

[wind hazel]

any healer in your fleet?

[humble solar]

One on 2,3,4 fleets

[storm heron]

screenshot what you are using

[wind hazel]

what the fuck

[humble solar]

Unicorn
Perseus
Shouhou

[wind hazel]

show your fleets

but you can prepare to kick off shouhou

[wind hazel]

this uh, need some rearrangement

i forgot but does it cost you AP for redeployment now after monthly reset

[storm heron]

where is your list of CA

We need a tank

[storm heron]

well that's not good

[humble solar]

I'm in the process of getting Anchorage

Tbh I'm so close to getting plymouth too

The 2.4m xp is pqin

[storm heron]

not as painful as the 4 months bp gathering

so you're not close of getting ancho it sounds

[wind hazel]

can cope with London tank. kick off laffey, put london there. swap out hood, swap in monarch, swap enterprise with independence

and uh, emden off tank i guess. use fleet 4 as your mob fleet

[storm heron]

they also have musashi right? they just need the tank tbh

[wind hazel]

i'd rather they keep musashi on separate fleet, as boss fleet

you know what just open a thread, post entire dock

even the boss fleet is a bit messy

[storm heron]

london as tanky as bulldog

[spark ridge]

what document is that

[storm heron]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1HF6_hLEB8m_v0stp4DLGnIoDjgojvo7fjYz-cysjTMc/htmlview#

[wind hazel]

he doesn't have any other option tbh

[spark ridge]

ty

[wind hazel]

unless you wanna level up something else like eugen just for an opsi mob tank

[storm heron]

oh nice they have jarvis

[wind hazel]

tbh i've never used jarvis before. is she that good of a tank

[storm heron]

yeah she is good up to w14

Eh she's usable to in w15 with high difficulty

[elfin hollow]

Hello. Which normal chapter are good to grind for a new players?. I don't wanna waste my time trying all chapters

[wind hazel]

grind T5 event until it ends

[calm panther]

Is the speedy growth juice thing useful?

[zinc cave]

usable, but can be easily outclassed

[calm panther]

So the bigger hitbox thing is just a gimmick?

[wind hazel]

yea 3% increase in size apparently

but the stats isn't that attractive whatsoever

[fluid umbra]

Wait so roon muse is worse than portland retro?

I don't understand that sheet

[storm heron]

ironically yes

[fluid umbra]

What the f

[boreal wagon]

it doesnt increase the hitbox tho if you are talking about the collab aux, its visual only

[fluid umbra]

Should I stop using roon muse and just eat it with portland then

[calm panther]

how about the other ones? The “toolbox” seems good? But what about the fp/hit ones?

[fluid umbra]

Okay maybe I'm misunderstanding the point of the sheet.

Does roon muse's skill make up for her lack of stats or is it already accounted for

Also terrifying to see how tanky kala is

[wind hazel]

it's accounted for

[fluid umbra]

Welp, time to look for another tank i guess

[storm heron]

the T-34

[coarse heron]

Is the Vit-2 from PR5 worth crafting (the Soviet torpedo bomber) and if so who/when do I use it?

[hollow sail]

it's a pretty decent parallel torp bomber, can be used if not having wyvern/spearfish for campaign

[wind hazel]

if you have wyvern already, no

[fluid umbra]

Should I level and MLB Eugen? I need IB Tech anyway and she seems to be decent at tanking

[coarse heron]

That’s the problem with Eugen, that’s all she can do.

[wind hazel]

there are better investment for your gold bulin

and alternative on getting IB tech

[fluid umbra]

I see I see

[coarse heron]

She doesn’t deal any serious amount of damage, making her just a damage sponge.

[fluid umbra]

This is my IB lineup, is there nothing to do with any of them?

[coarse heron]

If you get dupes of her then yeah use them to LB her but don’t waste gold Bulins on her

Heinrich is a much better investment

[wind hazel]

go farm the BCs from divergent chessboard, use them with weser for PR grind

[fluid umbra]

Sheet says heinrich is on the lower end ehp

[coarse heron]

eHP isn’t everything.

[fluid umbra]

Noted

[fluid umbra]

Is Roon muse usable then?

[coarse heron]

Roon Muse is the better Roon

[fluid umbra]

She tends to die at the last 20 seconds in Nagato META

[hollow sail]

i wouldn't say 107% of portland is "lower end"

of course there are better tanks but she's serviceable

[fluid umbra]

Oh yeah, bad wording on my side. I meant lower side of the ones above portland

[coarse heron]

There’s also a reason Portland is chosen as 100%, she’s actually quite tanky.

[fluid umbra]

Yeah I used her for a long while, she's kinda just sitting in a spare fleet for opsi atm

[coarse heron]

Oh so it’s just a worse Wyvern, okay

[wind hazel]

well, yes

[versed dagger]

Time to make the opsi fleets

[fluid umbra]

Should I start LBing and leveling Heinrich then? I have an empty slot for vanguards in my farming fleet

[wind hazel]

do you have bb or cv that want the gold bulins?

[fluid umbra]

Not that I can tell

[wind hazel]

sure i guess

[versed dagger]

Is Perseus Alsace Unicorn good for the opsi mob fleet?

[south sequoia]

Perseus no

[fluid umbra]

Excessive healers, opsi mobbing is not that hard

[coarse heron]

Percy and Unicorn is just going to overkill the first wave on all mob nodes and not hit anything else

[south sequoia]

Pick one or the other, perseus and unicorn are almost the same in performance in opsi and you'll lack damage running both

pick someone else

another staggered mobber, maybe independence

[fluid umbra]

I use indep, I recommend it for the crossfleet buff

[versed dagger]

I'll have to level up Indep, but sure

[south sequoia]

You are recommended to pick her up anyways because of how strong she is

Crossfleets, good damage

good utility

consistently strong

[fluid umbra]

What's the upgrade from avenger for indep?

My indep is running this atm

[south sequoia]

gold barracuda

[fluid umbra]

Is it fine sacrificing the 15% efficiency?

[south sequoia]

If you mean avenger as the gold avenger barracuda would be worser than it

[boreal nacelle]

does PR ship get combat data exp while not in developing?

[south sequoia]

I'm not sure what purple plane that is

[south sequoia]

You only get combat data exp for the ship you are developing

[fluid umbra]

It's purple avenger, looking for an upgrade

[boreal nacelle]

ok tnx

[coarse heron]

Personally I use this, it’s not very staggered but Ibuki wipes the first wave solo before the torpedo bombers even get there

[south sequoia]

barracuda

[hollow sail]

yes

[south sequoia]

or if you have these 2 lying around

can get em for her

[hollow sail]

there are even better gold planes but arguable if worth getting them specifically for indep

[fluid umbra]

Don't have them, would be spending core data or lab for them

[south sequoia]

then yes barracuda

15% efficiency is nothing if the plane sucks

[fluid umbra]

Should I do GB SP2 for it? I somehow still don't have a gold barracuda after all this time.
Or should I gear lab it (Last time people got mad at me for suggesting this.)

[hollow sail]

don't grind print for it

i wouldn't gear lab it either tbh...

[fluid umbra]

So just pray to tech box luck then

[forest palm]

if you want a good Parallel TB just buy the Breguet from Core Data....

[hollow sail]

just hope you get lucky from some boxes

[versed dagger]

mob fleet

[south sequoia]

solid

[hollow sail]

should be working on getting wyvern asap anyway

[versed dagger]

plane fleet, a bit worried about vanguard survivability

[south sequoia]

drake should be replaced

not that shes bad or anything

[wind hazel]

flag your alsace

[fluid umbra]

Just need me a firecrest which is quite a few more electronics. I'm gonna grab blackburn from core.

[south sequoia]

but a more reliable tank would be better, like guam or anchorage

[versed dagger]

Guam needs all the stars, and Anchorage is level 25

[south sequoia]

then I guess drake can be good for now

but you need to be careful

[versed dagger]

Now for battleship fleet, it's either just my strongest battleships or Iron Blood fleet with Bsimarck zwei

[fluid umbra]

Are classified loggers from opsi a one time thing? Do they never show up again in the shop after you do them once?

[faint kite]

who gets replaced by NJ? for OpSi

[fluid umbra]

Should I buy High Efficiency plans or Coins in opsi shop?

Actually, probably coins

[zinc cave]

High efficiency plans are always better unless you have a really really urgent need for immediate coin income

[fluid umbra]

But High efficiency doesn't give you more stuff though, just speeds up using oil no?

[zinc cave]

it doubles the clear rewards so it speeds up coin income as well

[wind hazel]

[wary hawk]

If time is your bottleneck, this is true

[whole crypt]

it doesn't give you additional stuff over what would have been 2 runs

[zinc cave]

yeah better way of putting it

[fluid umbra]

Okay so I wasn't crazy. Yeah I don't have that much oil to the point where time is the constraint

I'm constantly hovering at 2k oil

[whole crypt]

time is always the constraint

[wind hazel]

i ahve 24.5hrs

[wary hawk]

Time is never a constraint we are immortal the world will go on forever

[whole crypt]

but yeh HELPs are only mostly to reduce time needed for grinds, if you have limited play time

[vernal osprey]

Does the flares on Chapter 14 make a difference in combat?

[fluid umbra]

Wtf I never noticed it shortens to HELP

[whole crypt]

they may or may not help, you're probably fine not taking them

[fluid umbra]

But noted, I'll get some coins then

[wary hawk]

HELPs dont help..

[boreal wagon]

they also technically don't shorten to help but everyone drops the c

[wary hawk]

forbidden knowledge

[whole crypt]

flares can help or screw you unless you manual to maximize use of the flare window

[vernal osprey]

I see...

[fluid umbra]

Do you guys ever buy tuners from opsi supply shop? Like it's not that important when you have a decent mobbing fleet right?

[wary hawk]

i always buy them bc lazy

[zinc cave]

i buy if lazy

[whole crypt]

it helps you fight higher difficulty stuff earlier in the month without trouble

[versed dagger]

opsi battleship fleet, i have Ulrich for full Iron Blood backline and Musashi though she needs stars

[zinc cave]

its only good for rushing strongholds and arbiter tbf

[whole crypt]

mostly arbs really, even strongholds aren't that big an issue if your fleet is good

[south sequoia]

They are important for bosses and especially arbiter fights

[wary hawk]

If youre an efficiency gamer though they are completely useless

[fluid umbra]

I see I see.

[wary hawk]

youll hit your thresholds before the month is over naturally anyway

[whole crypt]

you don't really need to be an efficiency gamer because you're going to have nothing to do with your vouchers, so it's only if you're hoarding

[fluid umbra]

I just get the 5k oil logger and auto explore level 5s and below until the entire map is cleared while doing dailies and it's usually enough to hit operation level 7 by the last week or so

[south sequoia]

If you normally play you buy tuners at the monthly shop and pick up some from the oil loggers if you buy those

[wary hawk]

uh oh

[south sequoia]

They aren't completely useless since they still help in clears

[whole crypt]

if you want to be really efficient you buy from port shops, not exchange

[fluid umbra]

The entire shop is cleared, except level 5 and 6 sirens since I don't think I can do them.
But I have some excess vouchers, was gonna do coins but was wondering if the tuners would be a better idea.

[wary hawk]

If you want to be more efficient, cut down on your playtime, find a part time job and swipe

[plain saffron]

it can't

[whole crypt]

except swiping doesn't help

if I could get more gold plates by swiping I'd have done it plenty by now

[plain saffron]

swiping don't help you with getting better on opsi

[vast sparrow]

Best

[plain saffron]

buying logger and do half reward prob better i think

[whole crypt]

a fair lot of the paid stuff are more pay-to-catchup than pay to win, you rarely get much mileage out of spending more money gameplay wise once you're past a point in veterancy

[versed dagger]

mob fleet, plane fleet and battleship fleet. is fine or is there something else that i don't know about opsi fleets that could help me reach the end more efficiently?

[fluid umbra]

That's what I thought, just wondering if there are other opinions regarding the tuners.
Since I don't think i can do much with excess vouchers anyway

[south sequoia]

these look fine

[whole crypt]

those fleets are fine, there's not one single solution to OS fleets as long as they work

Independence could use more levels but that'll happen as you use the fleet anyway

[fluid umbra]

Eh why not tuners are like 900, won't do a dent

[versed dagger]

now what for 4th fleet

[south sequoia]

anything

[whole crypt]

anything, another boss fleet, remaining rainbows for crossfleet

[versed dagger]

all Taihou

[south sequoia]

realistically opsi gameplay is
mob fleet is 90% the one doing work
boss fleets doing the arbiters, whatever tough stuff

if you have a strong enough mob fleet you can even get them to challenge c6 boss content

[versed dagger]

i don't know what a strong mob fleet is

[south sequoia]

healer + 5 good ships

nothing deeper

[whole crypt]

what you have there is actually enough, if all leveled and properly geared

you can litearally kill c6 abyssals with that fleet

[south sequoia]

exactly

[fluid umbra]

What about my fleet

[storm heron]

might want to swap guam with laffey II

[versed dagger]

4th fleet and subs if i remember to use them

[fluid umbra]

Is kearsarge good?

[south sequoia]

not really

[whole crypt]

should kill up to C5 fine, depends on gear, C6 might depend on mods

[south sequoia]

is there even anything laffey does that brings her up over guam in a cv fleet

[whole crypt]

AA debuff

[fluid umbra]

They have high end gold gear, only indep is lacking a good TB. Ryza has quad rainbow gun.

[whole crypt]

but honestly it's not significant

[storm heron]

if anything guam deals much more damage than laffii in mob flet

[versed dagger]

or i can make the pelt fleet

[whole crypt]

also Guam's AA is actually stronger than Laffey as well, so you could stand to get more damage from keeping concealment

[tranquil rock]

me when i have laffey ii but no guam 😭

[whole crypt]

doesn't really matter

[south sequoia]

laffii in mob fleet is mostly just more so the fact she's an all rounder with something to fall back on in case she starts eating up too much

[whole crypt]

at least in the context of picking one of those two in an OS fleet

[south sequoia]

Either works, but I just find guam to be the safer pick of the two in the context of a cv fleet

[tranquil rock]

once i get my laffey ii mlbed do i replace otto with her as tank

in mob fleet

[whole crypt]

[south sequoia]

yes

laffey is just superior when it comes to that area

[tranquil rock]

oh

[south sequoia]

well would you look at that

best of all worlds

[versed dagger]

i don't have Eldri retro yet

[remote quarry]

I just run the DE vanguard in my mob fleet (Yat Sen + 2 DDGs), then Uni kai, Hood, and Saratoga as my OpSi mob fleet. It muders everything with ease even without tuning.

[storm heron]

I dun get it why you would let mog main tank

[remote quarry]

And easily obtainable

[south sequoia]

is eldridge slow that good enough by the way, the idea I had in my mind for nakhi fleets is just slot in voroshilov since voro is a np slower for her freeze

[whole crypt]

I might move her later on when I actually get into fights, I just redid some of those fleets after testing shit on last month's arb

[runic fox]

Wht is this "classified for??

[whole crypt]

but it doesn't really matter whether she tanks as long as the boss dies before she does

[remote quarry]

Bonus zones and mats for 0 AP

[versed dagger]

so with these fleets i should be fine

[storm heron]

free gold plates and a UR design plan

[whole crypt]

I think a lot of people just overestimate how hard OS is because they made a bad entry when it's first unlocked

once you get used to it and have more shit leveled it's just braindead repeats

[storm heron]

Nah I think it's rated just okay for the newbs

for old player is definitely just braindead spiral abyss and stronghold though, heck even any harby can be 4 fleeted with any decent setup and back again with 0 ap spent

[drifting light]

is there any equipment guide updated with the collab gold equipments and ships?

[storm heron]

so did she survive strength?

[whole crypt]

mog wasn't in the fleet I was testing

[runic fox]

Bonus zone like if i used it ,i can enter the bonus zone and get the reward ?

[remote quarry]

OpSi is also a good source of PR XP if you can be bothered to change your mob fleet as needed

[whole crypt]

and November Strength is annoying

[storm heron]

#gameplay-help message

[remote quarry]

You still have to fight ships, but they arent any harder than a normal zone

[drifting light]

thx gonna read that

[runic fox]

Hmm okk ,ty

[tranquil rock]

when are we gonna get a gameplay revamp Vro
like we can have ships act independently instead of grouping up n stuff
as well as more fleet slots in vanguard and main to promote fleet diversity
and have BBs and BBVs on the frontline constantly launching planes just like ai enemies

[boreal wagon]

this isnt #game-feedback

[remote quarry]

Why would they mess with a system that has worked for over 6 years?

[tranquil rock]

fair

[whole crypt]

7

[eternal basalt]

Almost 8 now (CN May)

[turbid dawn]

I have all URs except for Implac+YorkII, is there any way that I can improve these fleets? Fleet 4 is mob

[crisp estuary]

[storm heron]

are you sirius?

[prime glacier]

Hi! I pulled Shinano but I have her MLB, retire?

[storm heron]

why do you pull shinano?

anyways up to you, there's no reason to retire, there's no reason to keep her too

[prime glacier]

I did my daily 3 builds

[storm heron]

on heavy?

[prime glacier]

yeah, felt lucky today :)

[storm heron]

you are supposed to do 1 daily light if you want to save up

[prime glacier]

I have 500+ cubes

and enough gold

[eternal basalt]

UR x2 coming up though

[storm heron]

doesn't change the fact that you can save up by doing 1 daiy light

[zinc cave]

500 is actually not that much if you get unlucky on a UR event

[prime glacier]

new UR coming?

I have yorktown, is she a good UR?

[boreal wagon]

december usually has a UR going by past schedules, but its not exactly confirmed

[eternal basalt]

The real question is 1, 2 or 3 UR

[storm heron]

2 gacha and 1 shop?

[remote quarry]

Should have 2 weeks downtime before the December UR, correct?

[boreal wagon]

it should happen near the end of the month yes

[drifting light]

hi, what is the bar to consider a ship has low AA?

[eternal basalt]

Don't know yet, but probably. 2 or 3.

[zinc cave]

~~1 gacha, 1 shop, 1 map drop ~~

[boreal wagon]

i didnt know speculation was allowed here

[storm heron]

idk it wasn't me who started it

[trail nymph]

Is Cheshire a good unit?

[storm heron]

good yes

[eternal basalt]

For AA yes

[drifting light]

how you consider a ship has low or decent AA?

[remote quarry]

Look at the AA stat is a good start, then see if it has any AA boosting skills

[eternal basalt]

And an extra AA gun (or no AA gun)

[drifting light]

whats the line on the stat side?

[zinc cave]

varies from a collection of AA Stat, AA gun efficiencies, AA gun mount count, AA skills

[drifting light]

like under 100? or under 150 or under 200?

[remote quarry]

It varies. That stat can be boosted by skills, so it can be deceptive. No hard and fast rule

[storm heron]

you multiply the AA STAT by AA mount by AA efficiency, you will get almost the exact numbers

[zinc cave]

ballpark number for top level AA stat is like ~400+

[sharp socket]

there is an AA list though

[zinc cave]

but again, AA stat alone doesnt determine everything but its one indicator

[remote quarry]

Is the ship at least as good as Sandy kai? If yes, its a good AA ship. Thats my rule of thumb

[sharp socket]

yea, helena has 400+ AA but she doesnt get used for her AA

[storm heron]

Sandy has 185% AA x 1 mount x around 800 AA + some team AA contributions

[zinc cave]

yeah for ex. helena's aa gun efficiency is only 115% so that drags her high AA stat down

[storm heron]

meanwhile helena has 110% (which already less than two third sandy), 400/800 AA (which makes it one-third sandy now) and no AA contribution to the team

[sharp socket]

800 AA sandy

[storm heron]

wait it's actually more

more than 1000 actually

[zinc cave]

self 25%, then 15% chance for 50% team

[hollow sail]

most light cruisers have between high 300 to low 400 AA, AA dedicated ship needs more than just that to actually be considered "great" at AA compared to the rest

[zinc cave]

yeah just over

[trail nymph]

whats special about Houshou META?

[zinc cave]

uh... nothing

[eternal basalt]

Nothing

[sharp echo]

is this worth to up?

[trail nymph]

oh ok lol cause she seems different to the other units

[plain saffron]

nah, very low prio, maybe even never

[zinc cave]

ah yeah those would be META units which are raised slightly differently to the usual shipgirls

[sharp echo]

oke2

[storm heron]

yeah that skill on portland is very cope

[trail nymph]

they seem similar to units like Cheshire with the whole research thing. are they worth building?

[plain saffron]

depends on the ship itself

[eternal basalt]

They are nothing alike

[storm heron]

you have ships like plymouth, and you have ships like drake

[plain saffron]

though for research you should read the guide to make sure you choose correct ships

[plain saffron]

so 2 good ships?

[zinc cave]

one could see the comparison

[storm heron]

one worth building, one not worth building

[hollow sail]

+1 carrier reload from reaching 120, nothing else

[eternal basalt]

Drake?

[storm heron]

from this I mean hehe

so it's like a whole bunch of spectrum

[zinc cave]

vastly depends on the ship but as a blanket statement, almost all of the elite/purple METAs are useless/underpowered
most of the super rare/golds METAs are decent in some way or another

[trail nymph]

I assume the only good units that arent super rare or higher is Unicorn and Portland?

[eternal basalt]

The ONLY thing they share is no level block, so 125 without breaking. That's it

[hollow sail]

there are a select few exceptions

[zinc cave]

if you squint, fortification is the basically the same thing as blue prints, just a different way of getting them

[plain saffron]

totally different

[atomic abyss]

helena, 3 of the chinese destroyers

[storm heron]

ehh blueprints can give you lb properties

[plain saffron]

blueprint is enhance + LB
fortify is just enhance

[storm heron]

nvm I'm like what helena is chinese

[zinc cave]

fortification thresholds

[plain saffron]

that's not LB properties

[zinc cave]

yeah which is why i never said they're the same, save me the pedantics

[storm heron]

Imagine you have different strategy for calculating stats

[plain saffron]

i'm just giving you the correct info so you can see the difference

[wintry folio]

Is there any blue gear that needs to be kept for Gear Lab? I started about a month ago.

[turbid dawn]

I have all URs except for YorkII+Implac, any better way that I could do these fleets or is this good enough? Fleet 4 is mobbing

[zinc cave]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[storm heron]

again, are you sirius?

[turbid dawn]

What're you on about?

[storm heron]

where's she?

[turbid dawn]

Where's who?

[storm heron]

sirius

[turbid dawn]

I got a better question, who asked for your input?

[atomic abyss]

soyuz haku nakhi guam shima laffey2
bis2 vanny als agir helena ply
amagi nano avp napoli kaza unzen

[atomic abyss]

firstly, what's this supposed to mean

[storm heron]

replace shima with helena and fill in sirius

[atomic abyss]

and you couldnt have phrased it that way earlier?

[sharp socket]

also is that nakhi d30

[turbid dawn]

I wouldn't be using any non-MLB ships, who on earth would do that?

[atomic abyss]

a lot of people

[zinc cave]

you already made this joke 30 minutes ago, not sure why you needed to repeat it the 2nd time around

[obsidian ivy]

I don't remember specifically but do opsi bosses move a lot that you need a stopper like implac in a CV fleet? Or can I go full triple IJN UR

[storm heron]

yes you would want a stopper to increase the chance of your torpedoes hitting

[zinc cave]

recommended you have a support slow/freeze yes

[atomic abyss]

why the when you did make the same joke

[sharp socket]

ender’s recc is good probably best you can get without implac

[atomic abyss]

recommended to use impla

[obsidian ivy]

😔 Amagi shall be homeless then (I like Haku skin so much more)

[atomic abyss]

replace shinano instead if you dont want to replace haku

amagi is just a better carrier and a better buffer

[sharp echo]

if i already have momo, should i buy momo again? or just buy other thing

[atomic abyss]

prio other things, ignore momo

[storm heron]

what other things, they might be higher priority than a SR bulins

[turbid dawn]

For mobbing is UVH, NJ or FDG better? I feel like mobs don't last long so probs UVH with faster firing?

[atomic abyss]

honestly if you want to prio faster fights, the answer is none of them

[obsidian ivy]

I like shinano even more so rip haha. I guess I'll be fine with the current lineup, not like opsi is too difficult, was just wondering about the stop thing

[atomic abyss]

you instead go with 3 carriers
one with preload, 2 with reduced 1st airstrike cooldown

[turbid dawn]

Who would you reommend? I tried Aquila with full preload but because Unicorn wipes screen as is she's wasted

[atomic abyss]

bearn meta, independence, impero etc

[whole crypt]

I still take Aquila because Unicorn isn't always enough to wipe opening wave, and Aquila still has fast load after preload

[atomic abyss]

^same

i'd use aqui + uni + indep ideally

[turbid dawn]

Ill give that a try then thanks

[whole crypt]

if you were around for DOAXVV then Luna good

[turbid dawn]

I think that was when I stopped playing, a few days before that. then came back during BisZ

[whole crypt]

too bad then

[dense eagle]

hi is it just me or does sirius in the 3d dorm look much shinier?

[eternal basalt]

She is

[viral flicker]

Help

[dense eagle]

ah so its just a bug then

[viral flicker]

Someone help

[zinc cave]

you can go diagonals

[viral flicker]

Ty

[zinc cave]

yeah 3d dorm being a little buggy this patch cycle

[wary hawk]

Just this patch cycle? 💀

[viral flicker]

@zinc cave help again

[eternal moth]

Bruh

[zinc cave]

[eternal moth]

Spend some time and figure it out, or just click the banner a few times and it will solve it for you

[zinc cave]

#gameplay-help message

[hollow sail]

click the words on the top left 5 times

[zinc cave]

just cheat it, because i have a feeling im going to see the other 5 puzzles if i dont say that

[eternal basalt]

That one's easy though, just make a circle

[eternal moth]

I am worried for today's society based on the number of people unwilling or unable to even try and solve puzzles like these

[remote quarry]

Public schools have failed us

[storm heron]

snark warning

[boreal wagon]

i didnt know this channel was known as shameplay-help

[turbid shell]

Round Shot, tempesta aux cannot give more than 6 ammo?

[storm heron]

gph people turning gameplay help into shameplay help, one snark at a time

[zinc cave]

yes, does not stack

[eternal basalt]

Just run 3 ships with it

Or even 6 with core shop buys

[sharp socket]

how can i make hiryuuM more consistent 1 shot

currently im 4/5 oneshots

[hollow sail]

not only does round shot skill not cross-stack with other ships in the fleet equipping it, you can't equip more than one per ship with it either, and you can't equip round shot + grapeshot together

[sharp socket]

time to craft fp AA gun?

[hollow sail]

because tempesta clearly too OP

[sharp socket]

or should i try crossbows on soyuz and alsus

[storm heron]

corss bows surely does not matter

[sharp socket]

wait no shes medium

[eternal moth]

Don't use 457 maybe?

[atomic abyss]

drop agir maybe?

also sync your helena

[storm heron]

+13 weapon like plygun, and maybe use a 45 fp on alsace

[sharp socket]

she has sg radar i put wrong on planner

[eternal moth]

Triple champagne gun, 2 radar, Vanguard doesn't get one

[atomic abyss]

why would you reduce the damage lol

[sharp socket]

i have 2 bb rld, 11 cv rld

[atomic abyss]

i would say drop agir for a DPS seems to be the only simple way

[eternal moth]

Oh wait, there's no bisco there. You'd have to check timings to see if Vanguard outspeeds the other two. That's usually the case, but with only 2 RLD they all might need one

[sharp socket]

vanny is faster until 4th strike

where alsus jams her

also heres my vg list

[sharp echo]

better like this stack hp and regen or change sales boosta (6 eva 16 hit)

[storm heron]

do you think 20 fp on alsus make more difference?

[eternal moth]

Keep in mind, Vanny's skill is on salvo READY, not salvo FIRE

[atomic abyss]

stack evasion only for now

[storm heron]

evasion is better for portland

[sharp socket]

i have only one plygun

i can get drake gun rn if thatll help

[eternal moth]

Do you have Hind or Unzen ready?

[sharp socket]

nope

no unzen in my dock and neither is hinden

[storm heron]

oh nvm 10 fp only

[sharp socket]

i have a michita that i can book

[soft dagger]

4/5 with how many radar scan?

[boreal wagon]

thats 10 aa tho

[sharp echo]

repair change also?

[eternal moth]

I might go Harbin then. I'm not sure how she'd compare to Sandy

[storm heron]

I mean difference to a 45 fp cl gun

[sharp socket]

i think 1 radar still kills

[eternal moth]

Oh wait, she's only 115 to Sandy's 125. Replace Agir with Sandy and that might be enough, as long as you can get her augment

[soft dagger]

she doesnt proc for the 5th battle?

[sharp socket]

she proc 2 time

but are not first 2 in the battle

so effectively useless

[sharp echo]

do i also change repair kit to eva?
tldr eva is god stats in this game?

[atomic abyss]

eva is good for heavy and light cruisers
destroyers want HP

[sharp socket]

i can try champy guns later

[soft dagger]

how about a thread?

[storm heron]

eva is good because of math optimization, cruisers has smaller eva so they prefer eva stat, dd has smaller hp so they prefer hp stat

[eternal moth]

I'd leave the bubbly chef and replace the toolbox with an evasion item.

[sharp socket]

i will try a few more things and see if they work incl champy gun and sandy ty for help

[storm heron]

fumo instead of fargo drone?

[soft dagger]

kay, gl mate

[sharp echo]

oooh, i thought the other wise. i thought if ship good hp stack more hp XD. i was wrong. ok ty

[remote quarry]

Washing machines are usualy my auto take for all crusiers. Plus something like Beaver Badge, Cosmic Kicks, etc

[eternal moth]

New players aren't going to have washing machines though. And if they're running blue toolboxes chances are good they're new players

[remote quarry]

Can use Blue steering wheel until they get washing machines

[eternal moth]

Agreed.

[storm heron]

but new player and old player is not binary

[strange sphinx]

[zinc cave]

doesnt like half of the bbs salvos not sync even with sg radar?

[eternal moth]

Hmm. Should I drop Musashi for a third CV in my OpSi mob fleet this month...

[strange sphinx]

so I Don't if this ome got answered already... but What aux can I use For lala? The classic washing machine + Lunch box or should I replace one with the collab items?

[eternal moth]

Washing machine and lunchbox is fine. She doesn't get anything special like the previous collabs had

[remote quarry]

Just make sure she has her augment

[strange sphinx]

I have

[zinc cave]

this setup around sg radar is bait because the skill still procs every 20s after

[wanton willow]

how many comission can be up at the same time? I am not talking about those 4/4 that our ships can be doing at the same time but just overall possible commissions

[zinc cave]

the urgent ones?

[eternal moth]

A lot if you look at urgent commissions

[zinc cave]

i dont think urgent ones have a cap for spawning

[eternal moth]

I'm almost certain I've seen 10+ if you're grinding hard

[zinc cave]

the worst part is forgetting to check and seeing a gem comission disappear after a split second because its already expired

[storm heron]

4 from urgent, and then 6 random rude comission that decides to show up because you first clear the event and do daily opsi

[formal shard]

Just started to develop FdG, but realized I don't have any iron blood main ships...
Should I skip her for now or are there iron blood main shipgirls easy to get and worth training?

[eternal moth]

Easy is relative. Gneisanau and Scharnhorst are available, but you'd have to grind for them in WA, and they don't like to drop often

[quartz jungle]

4 from 5 hours before reset that last 8 hrs

[eternal moth]

I'd skip FdG until you get at least 2 main fleet ships and can farm in chapter 9

[zinc cave]

if you have no IB main fleet then you should probably skip for now

[eternal moth]

Check your medal shop as well, you might be able to pick up Bismarck or Tirpitz. (Is Bisco in medals or no?)

[storm heron]

no way, fdg unlocks but no main fleet? what are your IB ships I wonder

[formal shard]

Mostly purple and bb's, also got roon and mainz

[eternal moth]

You have BBs? Those are main fleet

[storm heron]

purple ship is also a ship

[formal shard]

Oh whoops I mean SS, those girls with U in their names

Looks like I will be skipping her for now, ty 🙏

[eternal moth]

If you include purples you still don't have any main fleet?

[formal shard]

Zero 😢

[zinc cave]

sounds about right

theres less than 10 purple ib main fleet ships

[eternal moth]

And only 2 are readily available

[storm heron]

unfortunate indeed

[zinc cave]

1200 core data for scharnhorst btw if you dont want to farm her jfc

[eternal moth]

I REALLY wouldn't waste core data on Scharn

Good news though, you're just in time for the annual German UR event! (german UR not actually guaranteed)

[zinc cave]

DO NOT SPEND on Scharn, that was just me highlighting the stupidity of most of the elite ships buyable in core data

[strange sphinx]

[formal shard]

Yeah probably waiting till the new UR and pulling there and hoping for some Iron Blood ships

[eternal moth]

Weser, Zeppy, Scharn, Thuringen, Lil FdG, Jade, Gneisenau, and Elbe are all of the purple IB ships

Check your medal shop, you might be able to get Bisco or Tirpitz

[formal shard]

Sadly they aren't there

[eternal moth]

Oh well. Once you get a few you can go for FdG.

[storm heron]

might as well farm divergence chessb just to get 2 scharn class

[eternal moth]

Yeah, that's your only real option if you want to get her quickly

[formal shard]

Will be trying this first. I'm already done with this event. So have a few days now to farm them

[eternal moth]

If you don't have her yet, you might as well farm D4 for Z46 alongside the ugly sisters

[haughty dust]

Which ship can I use this on?

[zinc cave]

Torp damage focused vanguards, when survivability isn't an issue. Usually this means DDs (like Shimakaze, Ayanami, Kazugumo), some CLs (like Noshiro, Jintsuu) and rarely a few CAs (like Ibuki)

[elfin hollow]

unzen could use it

u’ll be sacrifing hp over it tho

[haughty dust]

Well, I can show you my vanguards for that but what do I sort by?

[elfin hollow]

ca,dd,cl,ss,ssv

[zinc cave]

imo, if you're not sure who to use it on yet you're better off just focusing on survivability over using damage auxes for now.

[eternal moth]

Honestly, it's a piece that you should only buy when you know you need it

[hollow gust]

Newbies use hp not offensive auxes

[light flax]

Hey can someone help me with help me miss lala im on the last one

[eternal moth]

Tap the banner 5 times

[zinc cave]

#gameplay-help message

[haughty dust]

Not sure if I selected every proper filter, but I’ll show these for now. I’m not gonna go with any lower level ships at the moment.

[undone plover]

My advice is dont use it
U might need it for some specific fight in the future but for everyday use it is not worth it

[hollow gust]

More like don't use the oxy torp

[light flax]

Thank you

[elfin hollow]

yea either harbin or unzen but again it’s a situational aux

[zinc cave]

they really want to use the aux huh

[elfin hollow]

i mean its fine

its not the end of the world if u lose hp

[ocean fog]

dang, having 2nd floor dorm help a lot

i always thought it gives only floor not extra slot

so didn't buy it

[vapid lagoon]

Can Jiromaru ( Elite cat) get 3% damage talent ?

[zinc cave]

Possible

[vapid lagoon]

Oh, maybe im just get very badluck, reroll for 2moth and didt see once

[forest palm]

was Giullio Hit, or RLD

[stark quiver]

Hit
Conte was rld

[dry tree]

how good is pre-fate sim hakuryuu?

[forest palm]

oh, I meant Meta forgot to add that bit lol

[stark quiver]

Hit

Meta is still hit tech

[forest palm]

Haku Fate Sim adds like 18% to her performance, all things considered Dev 30 is fairly strong

[obsidian ivy]

Is there anything not correct with these equips (for hiryuuM)

[stark quiver]

Sg radar on Helena

[forest palm]

the Aux Guns on the BB are a choice...

[undone plover]

Use radar to get 3.5 salvos
And more hit always good

Although +13 shell

[dry tree]

ohhh, alright, thank you, I just got her to 30, now i'm screaming cause she have fate sim

[undone plover]

Also I think maybe better to put bizmarck zwei flag so ply buffs her

[zinc cave]

no, why would you suggest that?

[forest palm]

SGR Helena depends on if they drop below 20, which is likely looking at the base FR of the ships involved

[obsidian ivy]

This I never thought of cuz I'm too used to musashi flag I'll try it later

[stark quiver]

That’s assuming they run fcrs, which might be better for an extra salvo

[undone plover]

Musashi is better vs heavy I think
Otherwise bismarck wants flag most of the time

[elfin hollow]

yea none of the fleet has fire control radars so sg radar would be hella useless

[stark quiver]

Renhex doesn’t show rld buffs n all that
From what I remember

[elfin hollow]

and u’d be sacrificing helenas survivability with sg radar

[forest palm]

the thing is though Musashi may still want flag, I forget what barrages are tied to that pos, but the overall damage might be negligible

[undone plover]

With 0 oath and max rld u will get like 3.5~3.75 salvos vs 80s meta with champy + fire control radar
Bizmarck and alsace should get most of the 4th out I think
So depends on their rld tech

[zinc cave]

you should keep musashi on flag

[forest palm]

that said it is correct to give BZ Flag if no one demands Flag

[stark quiver]

Musashi doesn’t say it has any barrages tied to flag

[elfin hollow]

mushashi as flag not worth

[zinc cave]

ijn main gun buffs her barrage damage alot, and it fires based on fleet position

[forest palm]

there is

[elfin hollow]

plus she takes less dmg if shes not on flag

[soft dagger]

which one? pretty sure all of them are target prio

[viscid swift]

Is there any possibility of dropping Helena entirely

[obsidian ivy]

Only have like 8 rld tech atm so not the best

[zinc cave]

absolutely can

just need to be aware of how to make up the damage difference

[sweet delta]

But using radars

[forest palm]

I don't know if the dude has Unzen, and Hinden sitting around with Proto 203s

[obsidian ivy]

Unzen? Hinden?

[elfin hollow]

How good of a sub is Herring considered?

[undone plover]

Hinden would be best cause of zwei and medium armor I would think

[sweet delta]

One of the better purples but purples are purples so

[vague fable]

how come my sandy keeps dying

[undone plover]

So what was this about sushi flag barrage
Does it matter in practice?

[zinc cave]

meh

[stark quiver]

Where was she dying

[vague fable]

110+ opsi

[forest palm]

and what gear is she using for that matter

[forest palm]

that explains a bit

[viscid swift]

No wonder

[vague fable]

idk how to gear at all, and I know it

[forest palm]

I mean 3 out of 5 isn't bad

[zinc cave]

yes because the barrage applies the damage increase

[vague fable]

I probably have better gear I just dont know what to put on her

[undone plover]

Cause of plymouth u mean?

[zinc cave]

no musashi's own barrage has a debuff attached to it

she has the best chance of it landing in flag

[forest palm]

do people use Luna for anything?

[sweet delta]

OK but only 1/7 if her barrage is tied to her position

[zinc cave]

good stagger for mobbing

[obsidian ivy]

Not sure what is good for hinden aux though

[forest palm]

dump Agir for Unzen

[elfin hollow]

Of these, which three do you think are the best? Outside of Leo, definitely Leo needs to be a main sub eventually.

[obsidian ivy]

Unzen can tank?

[forest palm]

Plymouth can

[sweet delta]

Replace shells with afct or rudder, or even better user any +13 457s you may have

[forest palm]

not with Fumo though

[zinc cave]

not against high pressure but her bulk is decent enough

[undone plover]

U96 and get u37 from merit shop
I guess LdV can be last one for now
Or use any purple if u dont want to spend more gold bulins on LdV

[zinc cave]

U96 + U37 (merit shop) + u410 for wolfpack fleet, can replace u410 with LDV if you want to invest the bullins

[elfin hollow]

Okay thanks guys. I'll have to wait until 37 is in rotation.

[terse dune]

did they change how event stages work? i feel like u used to have to do so many stages now it seems like its scaling faster

[eager mulch]

they made it so that new events clear in one go instead of having to do them over and over again

[obsidian ivy]

I guess this will do?

[elfin hollow]

My wish has finally come true

[sweet delta]

Change white to black shell for musashi

And all staag to 134mm but that doesn't matter much

[vestal glen]

what app did you use to get it looking like this btw

[obsidian ivy]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[soft raft]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[vestal glen]

icic, thanks

[sweet delta]

Also if you have to resort to unzen gun, do you have any other good ships instead of a second CA?

[stark quiver]

Between nano, implacable, and amagicv, which one is the tankiest

[terse dune]

anyone know why my independance would be doing 0 dmg in a fight? is she just loading to slow?

[obsidian ivy]

Can't exactly think of who might be better than URs lol

[stark quiver]

What fight was it, and how long did it last

[junior walrus]

Buy the series 3 to make the 406 for my BBs right?

[terse dune]

wasnt a long fight maybe like 20-30 seconds but i just found it weird she does 0 dmg

[junior walrus]

I already have 20 of the 25 so I’m assuming so but just want to double check

[zinc cave]

possibly overkilling and whiffing salvo

[terse dune]

ok just wanted to make sure i didnt have her set up terribly XD

i guess unicorn is kinda blowing up everything

[zinc cave]

can only infer possibilities if you just say why is x happening

[terse dune]

i do need to get better gear, i mostly have purples

[stark quiver]

?

[undone plover]

Cant unzen use the new ijn fp AA statstick?
Sushi slacking

[zinc cave]

no that aa gear is almost useless

[undone plover]

Wasnt there some calc saying it was good on azuma/unzen?

[zinc cave]

barely makes the cut on azuma

[spring bolt]

nano if you are trying to tank CM warspite sniping

[junior walrus]

I got the 406 for my BB, what’s the next weapon from prototypes I should focus?

[zinc cave]

ig unzen makes the cut too

[sweet delta]

No because hiryuu sends planes

[undone plover]

Does that matter for BB tho?

[zinc cave]

no, but just use the other one at this point

[terse dune]

is FDG more boss or mobs?

[forest palm]

she can do both, bit of mob leaning pref though

[zinc cave]

decent at both

[sweet delta]

Yes, the ijn AA gun literally doesn't work if it fires

[stark quiver]

Thx, and also wouldn’t the frontier medal be good for this fight

[sweet delta]

I mean it works but it's just worse than 134 if it fires even once

[undone plover]

Damn I need to read more
Also sushi not slacking

[icy spoke]

chat do we approve of crosswave here

[sweet delta]

No

[forest palm]

#al-general might

[spring bolt]

the special effect is for pvp only, but it works as a gold catapult as same avi and slightly less hp
if you are looking to boost nano tankiness while keeping the avi stat, use the black feather thing, 10 less avi but 12 eva

[terse dune]

am i the only one hate having to spend oil, its so difficult cause ur units run out of energy so fast

[stark quiver]

Dorm

[eternal moth]

Get yourself to chapter 9 or T5 of the current event and it gets a lot better.

[sweet delta]

No, it gets worse for the problem he's describing

[vague fable]

agreed , morale sucks

[terse dune]

idk y morale still exist XD, 2 forms of stamina is crazy

[rain hearth]

i have never played op siren
how easy is it to get materials and blueprints for gear lab stuff

[vague fable]

how strong is your fleet

[rain hearth]

13000 11500

[atomic abyss]

it's a grind, like long term thing

[junior walrus]

I got momo from the stage. What should I be buying from here? Gear boxes?

[atomic abyss]

you can get your first rainbow gear very quickly tho

[vague fable]

should be fine then just do hidden and logs

[eternal moth]

Prints

[rain hearth]

do i get the blueprints for gear lab from bosses?

[undone plover]

Is your mob fleet in dorm?

[terse dune]

i dont have that many slots

[atomic abyss]

bosses and meowfficer nodes

[atomic abyss]

buy 3rd dorm slots and the 2nd floor if you havent

[terse dune]

tehres a 2nd floor?

[undone plover]

When u get 3rd dorm slot and 2nd floor morale is a smaller problem

[eternal moth]

You should work on getting at least 3 dorm slots and second floor, that lets you dorm your entire mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

there is a 2nd floor

2nd floor doubles the numbers of slots you have

[terse dune]

how hard is it to get?

[atomic abyss]

not hard at all

[terse dune]

is it possible without spending? XD

[eternal moth]

I think you need every expansion on the bottom floor first, right?

[atomic abyss]

just need to fully expand the size of the first floor with decor tokens
then 500 gems

[eternal moth]

Assuming you haven't bought skins or anything else with gems, yes

[atomic abyss]

you are strongly recommended as an f2p to prioritise the 3rd dorm slot and the 2nd floor

[rain hearth]

what if i have 3 slots then buy second floor
then unlock another slot
will i have 7 or 8

[eternal moth]

8

[atomic abyss]

doubles whatever is on the first floor

[eternal moth]

Each slot counts for 2 if you have top floor, you don't have to buy top and bottom slots separately

[rain hearth]

nice
continuously

[undone plover]

Not worth for f2p tho
Stay at 3 imo

[rain hearth]

yh
just wondering

[eternal moth]

A 4th slot would probably be one of my first purchases if you ARE buying gems, though

[terse dune]

i feel like i used most my gems on dock space so i might have to spend a bit

[rain hearth]

i have only 150 dock space
1600 gems

[undone plover]

U can get some from collection and 3 starring story maps

[terse dune]

that wouldnt even be possible for me unless i retired all my purple locked units

[undone plover]

Also double check your mail that u claimed everything already

[terse dune]

they give to many ships need all dock space XDDD

[rain hearth]

i think i am going to retire ships from this event

[mellow cape]

Any recommendations? Not too familiar with kearsarge fleets yet

[eternal moth]

Kear needs flag

[undone plover]

No need for gumo
Use sirius or more dps

[stark quiver]

aurora could be put in there
if light

[eternal moth]

Assuming that's Laffey 2, Sirius wouldn't be a bad choice, yeah

[undone plover]

Kear has built in ARA so gumo is redundant

[rain hearth]

sirius is good?

[eternal moth]

Who's the other DD, is that Kaza? Because if so she isn't needed

[atomic abyss]

as a support rather than a DPS

[undone plover]

It is kaza l2d

[terse dune]

so they just lying?

[atomic abyss]

training slots refer to slots that give exp

[undone plover]

It means the 3 new slots u get dont give u xp
Which doesnt matter

[atomic abyss]

you get slots that restore morale more
which is what you want

[eternal moth]

Second floor gives 10 more morale an hour than bottom, but no XP

[undone plover]

Is there feedback about rewording this prompt?

[atomic abyss]

im sure there is

[rain hearth]

i have only the bunny bb ur
should i aim for uvh

[undone plover]

No
Save cubes for events

[mellow cape]

Like this?

[eternal moth]

Kearsarge needs to be flag

[mellow cape]

Oh yeah opps one sec

[rain hearth]

i mean when i inevitably have to choose

[eternal moth]

Other than that, it should be fine.

[undone plover]

Shinano best
Then UvH sure

[eternal moth]

I wouldn't go UvH until Shinano and New Jersey are both MLB

[reef flume]

Imo:
Shinano>UvH>=NJ>Shima

[eternal moth]

I'd swap NJ and UvH, but sure

[atomic abyss]

shinano > nj > uvh in this case

[sweet delta]

No she does not

[rain hearth]

but i like uvh (but i dont like the exhibitionism)

[spring bolt]

helena sirius aurora vanguard for maximum power

[mellow cape]

Helena ATM is on my bb fleet but I do want to make a new fleet with the addition of Kearsarge finally

[sweet delta]

Aurora maximum power against hermit

[tame jungle]

hermit (dd)

[eternal moth]

Well damn, I could have sworn her ARA required flag, but yeah, you're right.

[undone plover]

I mean u can get her if u like her
U dont need to do the meta option

[rain hearth]

is there a pat for every ship?

[forest palm]

I forget...for Arby it's
Light → Med → Heavy
or
Heavy → Med → Light
?

[junior walrus]

Any good?

[eternal moth]

Not really

[forest palm]

nope

[soft dagger]

lmh

[spring bolt]

bb hit +1

[eternal moth]

Probably better than her base form, but that's not saying much.

Oh, she gives hit? OK, I'll start worrking on her then

[terse dune]

how do i know what purple gear i can get rid of for space?

[eternal moth]

I was down to literally 4 main fleet ships that give FP, AVI, RLD or hit, so that's actually helpful

[glass basin]

is it better to craft champy gun or exchange for it with cores

[eternal moth]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[eternal moth]

The bottom guide is what you're looking for

[spring bolt]

welcome to the club

[forest palm]

wait till you're just awkwardly cleaning up DDs for tech

[vague fable]

we dont fight arbiters in corrosion level 5 and down right

[eternal moth]

I'm pretty much at that point already.

[terse dune]

cool freed up almost 150 gear space

[undone plover]

We do
Clear all zones
There are C4 and C5 arbiter zones

Wait

[tame jungle]

enforcer?

[sturdy flame]

not really sure where to ask this but,

Can anyone tell me if you can play your AL account on two different devices?

I've been using my phone for years now and I've recently bought a tablet and thought to install AL also too lol. Will I be able to play the same AL account on both devices? Or will it 'transfer' it across and I'll lose access on my phone - if that makes sense

[vague fable]

no

[eternal moth]

You can, no problems

[undone plover]

My bad….
I meant abyssal @vague fable

[tame jungle]

you're not able to play on 2 devices at the same time with 1 account

[sturdy flame]

I remember when I gave my brother my old bang dream acc thinkin we could share it - I lost access on my phone lmao, will that happen if I log in on another device you think?

[terse dune]

r any of the help me miss lala gear good?

[tame jungle]

if you're just switching, there's no problem

[eternal moth]

I play on an emulator on my PC for the most part, and on my phone when on the go. You can only access the account from one device at a time

[sweet delta]

Account sharing is against tos

[undone plover]

Arbiter is only the central zone in the map
Technically it is a C7 zone
There is normal and hard version

[sturdy flame]

I see

[bold cove]

well, im auto on phone when im working, and auto on simulator on PC when grinding

[vague fable]

im just autoing level 5 and down so I just wanted to know if I will get an unexpected wipeout

[eternal moth]

It'll log out the account that logged in first

[sturdy flame]

Thanks for the quick answers everyone, appreciate the help

[undone plover]

Depends on your fleet, gear and adaptive tuning

[forest palm]

the center, and strongholds are the only things classified as C7 afaik

[vague fable]

probably fine

[glass basin]

is it better to craft champy gun or exchange for it with cores

[undone plover]

Yeah that shouldnt struggle with good tuning
Maybe even with 0 tuning

[eternal moth]

I wouldnt put Ancho and Guam in the same fleet myself, but it'll work

[vague fable]

I'd use someone else but Laffey 2 is only 3* due to being dumb and not using 2x item or putting time into farming her to 6*.

[undone plover]

If u want to get a bit more xp
U can use 2 vanguards that need xp or maybe even 3 strong ones
But if u just want to clear with 0 worry this works

[vague fable]

[glass basin]

unexpected wipeout
I doubt it would die to strongholds tbh when musashi is leveled

[sweet delta]

If it's your first month buying with proto cores then you have no choice but to gear lab it if you want it in the next 30 days

[glass basin]

I just want to know which one is more cost effective (i.e. minmax)

[terse dune]

what team comp could i use to beat the EX event boss?

[glass basin]

Unzen Laffey 2 Helena
Hutten Fdg Maybe Unicorn if you want heal

[terse dune]

hutten?

[glass basin]

Ulrich

[barren tapir]

using 0lb laffey2? is fine?

[stark quiver]

its not fine

[tame jungle]

it's far from fine actually

[glass basin]

then mlb her

[spring bolt]

combat effectiveness wise i would prefer a vanguard that can handle heavy armor enemies over anchor, like harbin or unzen or ibuki but it's no big deal

[tame jungle]

you say that without knowing the context of the state of his spec core etc

[terse dune]

yeh i dont think im strong enough to clear it yet

[barren tapir]

do you have any other mlb backline close to 120

[glass basin]

not like the person has any better choice in the SC anyways

[barren tapir]

vanguard can be guam/anchorage helena anchorage/guam/unzen (smth like this using 3 of those 4)

backline unicorn independence and enty i guess?

[terse dune]

not really, should i try to get some ssrs to 120? they r alot easier to mlb

[barren tapir]

if it's normal EX that shud be able to do it with manual...

[stark quiver]

try enterprise,independance,unicorn
Guam,laffey,unzen

[barren tapir]

i used this

[forest palm]

Warspoot CM?

[barren tapir]

normal EX

[forest palm]

oh 🚮

[barren tapir]

if u wanted to know

[forest palm]

as far as CMs go it was easy to clown on her

[jaunty vault]

pink hair enjoyer

[stark quiver]

how 2 get under 3m for warspite cm

nagami next gen?

[spring bolt]

amagi nano implac, unzen kaza helena and start rerolling for helena procs

[barren tapir]

but yeah normal EX isnt too difficult they shud be able to clear with enty uni indep (use converging tbs) and guam helena unzen/anchorage smth like that

[inland shoal]

Sorry if this has been compiled already, but what are medal shops this month for Sandy and Lil E?

[jaunty vault]

i dont know

[sweet delta]

DD CL

[undone plover]

CL, CA for lil-E
if u wait I can confirm order but I think this is right

[jaunty vault]

why are we still collecting data
wasn't it confirmed that same hull can repeat

[tame jungle]

prolly wiki

[sweet delta]

Why are we still maintaining wiki

[inland shoal]

Ight thx

[jaunty vault]

you're welcome 😁

[spring bolt]

medal exchange is shit this month across the board, including cn

[eternal basalt]

Would prob be easier and quicker just to make an alt on those servers

[barren tapir]

[sweet delta]

What does shit mean by CN standards? No server with double main fleet slots?

[spring bolt]

cl + bb is good, rest is meh
only one non official server gets that, and it's 2 months in a row

[sweet delta]

EN has a CVCV and a CVBB for December, not shit

[jaunty vault]

what does EN mean by not shit standard

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

TEX

[terse dune]

wat stage should i farm if i wanna level like level 70 units

[spring bolt]

now event t5, backline can start at lv1 with carries, vanguard not sure but definitely no issue if lv 70 mlb with healer

[viscid swift]

or use XP packs/dorm if they can't handle 12-1

[barren tapir]

vg can start at like lvl50-60ish 2lb with uni

[ebon storm]

i can get agir blueprint with gold no?

[barren tapir]

also if you have a lot of time...c1 great for levelling level 1s. just needs a single carry of any kind either backline or vg

[terse dune]

is it better to level with a strong vanguard or a strong backline?

if im like trying to get levels for shipyard ships

[barren tapir]

depends on the research ship. backline ships need backline exp, vanguard ships need vanguard exp*

*exception exist...CBs/large cruiser need one CDC of each type, read it carefully

[terse dune]

wait really i didnt even notice

[terse dune]

is there a list of like PR units prio list

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#shipyard_priority_by_season

[sweet delta]

Have you tried double la9 akaga warspite

[cobalt rapids]

after i finish my dailies i plan to run sushi akaga

[hollow gust]

Akagi 🤢

[terse dune]

im having such a ahrd time leveling units XD

they just die all the time

[weary gust]

They're either too low level then, or you don't have proper gear/fleet comp.

Not sure where you're grinding but a frontline of three level 70 DD's not limit broken will not survive 12-4 (as an example)

[terse dune]

im just tryna use what i have i dont have a ton of units that are actually good

[viscid swift]

you don't need carries for W12

[weary gust]

Sufficient level and mlb is enough for 99% of ships in the game to run T5 of the event given they don't have absolutely garbage gear, so I guess the question is what units are you running and are they mlb and are they geared?

[terse dune]

my issue with gear is like u need so much of the same gear cause like it feels like all units use same gear

[viscid swift]

there shouldn't be that much overlap

[weary gust]

Technically you can always take gear off ships not being used, so you only need enough gear for two fleets at any given time.

[viscid swift]

at max 2-3 of the same gear is used across one fleet usually

[terse dune]

yeh but then you have 3 fleets and now its 9 XD

[viscid swift]

huh?

[weary gust]

Opsi is only place you can have more than 2 fleets and you can freely swap gear between them outside of battle even while in maps, so no, two fleets is the most you ever "need" geared at once.

[terse dune]

for example quadruple 40mm is good on a lot of units so i have like 10 of them and i still dont have enough

[weary gust]

AA guns aren't that important till w13+, and you're not farming there. Any gold AA will do for w12.

Farming requirements are really very, very low of a bar.

It's possible that you're not in a position to be thinking about doing PR/DR CDC grinding yet. No idea how far you are in campaign/what ships you have/what gear you have.

Generally we don't recommend focusing on PR/DR CDC until you're at w11/12.

[viscid swift]

10 should be enough to keep about 4 fleets geared up

allow me to be blunt, get used to swapping gear around or suffer because some gear you will not have the luxury of keeping enough to equip every ship an even if you do it will get prohibitively expensive to do so

[sweet delta]

3 +13 457s for 3 mob fleets

[weary gust]

Done

[barren tapir]

tbh u could prolly equip most ships with poverty/transitional gear fine enough eventually

so a hypothetical gamer fleet for casual content can just be 4 poverty and 2 decent geared

[terse dune]

so should i just save presets and swap like if im not using fleet 1 swap all that gear to fleet 3>

[viscid swift]

yes

[weary gust]

That's the most efficient thing to do, yes.

[sweet delta]

Usually we don't swap fleets that often

[viscid swift]

like even late game I only have so many fleets that I use

PvP fleet
my 2 W12 farming fleets
my OpSi mob fleets and one boss fleet
META showdown fleet
and low-cost fleet(s) if there's an event going on

[weary gust]

Four opsi fleets, pvp, fleets for w15, fleets for META, fleet for EX stages, fleets for grinding tech, a low oil fleet. That's about ~10 fleets that you can have geared at once for any practical purpose and that's way beyond necessary.

+subs

[terse dune]

do most ppl just level units by using books? and just farm with main fleet till out of morale?

[viscid swift]

book them to level 70 miniumum, and then rotate them into the farming fleets as slots open up

[terse dune]

i think the issue im running into is i have like no joke 50k fuel from not playing i bet if i was on a normal daily amount of fuel i wouldnt have issues