gameplay-help

[fluid umbra]

Kinda, but you can't really get anything out of higher levels until you're strong enough to reach said higher levels

[zinc cave]

No it's basically to stop you from going into content that you cant clear anyway, mostly

[sinful escarp]

yes, there is also a morale system where if they reach red they will recieve less exp and lower affinity(they start hating you)
morale recovers passively if the ship is not in use

[jolly spruce]

I uust played the game for like 4 days and i still need lala in the event banner to complete my reason for downloading the game

[fluid umbra]

Jesus let them sleep in the dorms

[zinc cave]

Yeah if you join the game for just an event, especially a collab, youll feel the heat

That said, they did announce the collab a while ago

[fluid umbra]

You're screwed. Joining right in the middle of an event in this game is a bad idea

[jolly spruce]

I swear, i joined kinda late, its already nov 26 i joined iirc

[fluid umbra]

We have people saving up hundreds of cubes and thousadns of oil for the event

[zinc cave]

yeah a little short on time to accumulate mats

[fluid umbra]

I just spend 360 cubes trying to get all event chars, kinda probably screwed for dec ur event

[jolly spruce]

All i need is lala i swear

Yeah its ending in dec 4

[fluid umbra]

Keep playing the game and pray for good rng

[jolly spruce]

I think im cooked

[fluid umbra]

You'll be sacrificing a lot of your early game progression if you dump coins to spam build though so take note of that

Endgame we can get lots of coins easily but early game coins are tough

[jolly spruce]

Yeah im ready to sacrifice literally everything

But not my money ofc

[zinc cave]

ah well.

[fluid umbra]

Not plausible for early game f2p to join in the middle of an event to get all event ships.
Unless you're very lucky, just keep praying

[hazy musk]

i need haruna

is she a good healer ?

[marsh tusk]

Do you have to research all the ships in the PR before moving on to the next tier?

[zinc cave]

Collabs aren't guaranteed to rerun, and theyll take a while before they rerun. But I think TLR falls into the pool of possible rerun down the line you might have some hope in the future if you don't land Lala this time round.

[fluid umbra]

I got like 12 of her and didn't get nana until over 350 cubes

[zinc cave]

no, research as you please, the only restriction is tech points

[fluid umbra]

Has there been a single collab rerun? I don't think they ever rerun

[marsh tusk]

Ty

[zinc cave]

Yeah, DoA and SSSS Gridman did

[fluid umbra]

Oh cool

[jolly spruce]

Yeah, the rng gave me nana, yami and haruna already and by december 3, i should be able to purchase momo and get yui aswell. All i need now is lala

[sinful escarp]

still no hololive collab rerun though

[fluid umbra]

pray and pray, I got everyone except nana after 100 cubes and nana took me 260 cubes

[marsh tusk]

Lala has eluded me since the start of the event

[spring bolt]

if you really want lala and want to avoid spending money, reroll on event last day. 1-2 weeks of progression is not that big of a cost

[hazy musk]

i got all but except haruna

[fluid umbra]

[zinc cave]

[fluid umbra]

I only have darkness besides nana that's not MLB lol, it took me THAT long to get nana

[jolly spruce]

I need them all 😭🙏

[jolly spruce]

Were you getting alot of nana, lala dupes then?

[fluid umbra]

I stopped after getting my one and only nana, need to save cubes. Can MLB with bulins.
I got lots of lala dupes, like lots.

[hazy musk]

Should I put resources into them?
i noobs

[jolly spruce]

Damn

[marsh tusk]

Same I just do it for collab collection

[jolly spruce]

Lala must have liked you alot

[spring bolt]

then have the reroll accounts ready early, and make sure one of them gets all of them

[fluid umbra]

I don't know enough about them since I don't use them but afaik they're pretty good just not as a 6 ship team because of the lack of healer.
So definitely need to pick which one is better but I don't know which.

My ryza fleet going strong though because they have a healer. (I didn't get serri )

[zinc cave]

The TLR characters? All the SRs/Golds are decent, the Elites/Purples are not. Lala is probably the highest performing ship of the collab.

[fluid umbra]

Are the elites that bad?

[zinc cave]

Elites get shafted everywhere unless they have a skill niche

[hazy musk]

i thought haruna was a healer ?

[marsh tusk]

What about the retrofit ones?

[fluid umbra]

Single heal, not fleet heal

[zinc cave]

Not all retrofits are equal, but some are really good

[hazy musk]

dang
reading problem

[fluid umbra]

I still use indep, indep good . Her crossfleet buff is nice.

[marsh tusk]

I got chun lee and unicorn retrofit

[fluid umbra]

Uni retro is probably the best elite retro by far

Can't go wrong with uni retro

[jolly spruce]

How do u retrofit mode a shup? Do u just have to retrofit everything in that specific character?

[fluid umbra]

Yes.

The final square, modernization. Requires every other square usually (Get every square regardless)

[marsh tusk]

It'll say modernization or something like that in the retrofit menu

[jolly spruce]

Unicorn looks adult too

[jolly spruce]

Do every rerofi-able ships have this "modernization"?

[fluid umbra]

Yes. That's what retrofits them

[zinc cave]

Modernization is the Retrofit thing

[soft raft]

ships that dont have a retrofit dont have that menu to begin with

[jolly spruce]

Alr makes alot of sense now

[marsh tusk]

Look who just showed up after talking about her lol on a 3 pull

[jolly spruce]

Crazy😭🙏

[zinc cave]

Don't taunt the poor guy

[jolly spruce]

I love the tlr series so much bro fr

[fluid umbra]

Which one is better between roon muse and roon pr

[zinc cave]

Roon Muse is more flexible

[soft raft]

#trophy-room

[zinc cave]

and I would say overall better

[soft raft]

Roon Muse, but she aint worth the 1.5k Core data

[fluid umbra]

My muse is maxed, so I guess not then

[soft raft]

She's easily sidelined by Anchorage and the CBs

[zinc cave]

I don't understand.

[fluid umbra]

Yeah I can feel her getting outscrewed by kala, still wanna use her though

[fluid umbra]

I just finished roon pr, just wondering

[soft raft]

Regular Roon is basically a more expensive Portland

[marsh tusk]

With that I think my collection is complete

[soft raft]

#al-general is that way

[marsh tusk]

Sorry, we was just talking about the collection before

[fluid umbra]

I don't need her best sister skill right? bringing indianapolis is just sabotaging my fleet.

[tame jungle]

do that in #al-general

[soft raft]

correct

[zinc cave]

Yeah Indianapolis rolled the short end of the sibling gacha

[soft raft]

and the topic had already ended by the time you posted

[marsh tusk]

On the topic of researching, are there any decent tier one ships to spend resources on?

[fluid umbra]

What do you guys think about this opsi setup

[soft raft]

as in PR1?
at most probably Izumo and Ibuki but they are replaceable

[jolly spruce]

Beautiful

[zinc cave]

Ibuki, with her Augment is quite strong. Izumo is decent with Augment. Neptune maybe, but I would say probably not.

[soft raft]

Hood and Monarch both being off flag
Bruh

They're both hard whiffing half of their barrages and those are their main sources of damage

[soft raft]

(And all 3 of them are pretty replaceable in the long run, even with their augments)

[reef flume]

Nice fleets

[fluid umbra]

I knoww i just don't know what to sub in for them

[zinc cave]

A bit all over the place

[tame jungle]

just start a thread

[zinc cave]

I would argue Ibuki actually competes with Unzen in some capacity

[marsh tusk]

And do I have to do anything to unlock tier 2? This is my second time going through the tier 1 missions

[soft raft]

that is a former bug turned into a feature
because who doesnt like more free stuff

[fluid umbra]

No, just finish series 1 missions.

[jolly spruce]

Just wondering, Is there any male ships in this game?

[zinc cave]

The chinese will riot, so no

[fluid umbra]

Lol no, it's a game about shipgirls

[soft raft]

Nope
and there probably never will

[marsh tusk]

Lol ok thanks

[fluid umbra]

For all we know the commander is the only male in the entire world that we can see in game

[jolly spruce]

Oh, so thats why they refer to everything as "her". Ljke i was wondering why its so generalized, and seems like everyone is just a girl

[fluid umbra]

They call objects like ships, cars and planes as "her" in real life too.
But yes

[zinc cave]

Any other living being we interact with is either a Manjuu or a Meowfficer if not an animal.

[fluid umbra]

Who to sub in for monarch and hood as off flag

[marsh tusk]

Are these used for anything?

[eager mulch]

no

[zinc cave]

no its just a momento

[marsh tusk]

[soft raft]

be glad they arent in the portion of your inventory that has a storage limit and just let them collect dust

[hazy musk]

which ship should i focus to build

[eager mulch]

in what context

[hazy musk]

dang

i cant creat thread

[marsh tusk]

Does Alsace have a special augment?

[reef flume]

Nope

[marsh tusk]

When should I start paying attention to the gear lab? I haven't really touched it since it seems I don't have the mats for anything and the small selection I can build is blue gear

[soft raft]

roughly about the same time as you start doing operation siren since that's the main source of gear lab materials

[marsh tusk]

Is the gear made in there special on any way or should I just bulk up for the ur items?

[forest palm]

UR gear can be meaningless if not used proper, and there is some UR Gear that isn't even good to use

but a good majority of gear used in the late game comes from Gear Lab

[marsh tusk]

Thanks, what's considered late game? I'm on chap 11 rn

[forest palm]

14+, Hard Arbiter, Meta 2 shots all that

[marsh tusk]

Kk ty

[forest palm]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[forest palm]

@marsh tusk use this to navigate Gear Lab gear, and what to aim for btw

[sinful escarp]

late game+ is fleet tech farming, leveling random ships to 120 for their tech for stat bonuses

[marsh tusk]

Thanks, appreciate it

[forest palm]

I just call that end game

[strange sphinx]

what should I give for Nana?

[undone plover]

left is better

[forest palm]

lunch box should still be better than it, but if you can't give Nana 2 lunch boxes then Chef

[strange sphinx]

what is that 30%? is that from collab or nana?

also who can tank? Lala or momo

[plain saffron]

some DD MLB bonus

[true kraken]

how do you get that name color

[fluid umbra]

Lala tanks

[fluid umbra]

#role-claim

[frank pulsar]

isnt lala a dps

[strange sphinx]

[fluid umbra]

Lala buffs her own eva and gives herself dmr. Momo doesn't do either, she just summons a plant.

[forest palm]

the DD rework, gave DDs 1 of 3 MLB buffs

[frank pulsar]

nvm i just took at look at wiki, lala tanks arnd same(better) as portland
i do rmb someone saying her dps is very good though

[fluid umbra]

Could be good dps yeah, I haven't used her but I have heard of it.

Wth are these TLR auxiliaries, half of them are cosmetics

[forest palm]

• Aux Gear Stat +30
• Faster AoA
• Reduced Torp Spread

there's probably a list somewhere that shows what DDs got what, but you can just look at the Limit Break Screen

[fluid umbra]

What do you guys think about this gearing. Auxes are pretty bad atm just sidegrades, but it's probably fine. I think SuperHeavy and AP would be the go to for auxes right?

[forest palm]

in terms of cheap that's fine

[frank pulsar]

purple fire control radar is better than that botanist aux

[forest palm]

Spooky Scary would probably be better than Speedy

[frank pulsar]

or that yea

[forest palm]

alternatively All Work would also work, Spooky gives more FP, while All Work is more Hit

[amber frost]

I would go for a lighter anti aircraft gunner but use that if it works best.

[fluid umbra]

Ah it's just the one I have laying around that's upgraded, is roomba better?

[forest palm]

Roomba is wasted on a BB

[amber frost]

I'll let someone else more savy answer that

[forest palm]

you won't need to actually worry about AA till at least world 12

[fluid umbra]

It's for opsi, I already have a fleet for w12

[strange sphinx]

also do I need to give accelerator AA for Nana or normal AA?

[forest palm]

then you can try to give her a Hazemayer, or the better option STAAG

[fluid umbra]

Nana to replace Helena META?

Or Momo if that works?

Not sure which to put in but Nana seems like the better sub in

[bold stream]

Romba all vanguards then faster fire rate on the mains?

[elfin hollow]

What should I do with a Muzashi gun?

[fluid umbra]

The rainbow one? It's kinda ehhhh, pretty sure it has 1 niche and not worth using elsewhere

[forest palm]

a Quad Bofor would do just fine, 113s typically go to the AA carry more often than not, and this is assuming options are limited

the Triple 460 is basically something you keep shelved till it has a purpose, it's not bad, but it doesn't have any general applications

[fluid umbra]

The 30s reload is a detriment most of the time.

[bold stream]

I see.. thanks

[strange sphinx]

Is twin 40mm bofors STAAG is the fastest AA for Main right??

[zinc cave]

new gen bait gear

[bold stream]

Is that gun not worth using even for hutten?

[fluid umbra]

It stagnates barrages, so it's not worth it afaik.

[forest palm]

Ulrich kind make use of it, Champaign as well, Alsace if you have her, but it's more of use it if you know what you're doing

[fluid umbra]

Something like this, I'm not really sure of how it works in particular but just the reload time makes it a hard pick.

[bold stream]

Well, i kinda dont know what i am doing most of the time...

[forest palm]

then shelve it for now

[bold stream]

Isnt it ulrich niche to use a slow but very powerful gun? Or not?

[paper timber]

The Devilucke sisters, should I use all of them as my OPSI mob vanguard?

[forest palm]

you can if you want Ops Mobbing isn't that high a bar they're better options, but they'll work

[zinc cave]

they'll do the job

[tawny bear]

[fluid umbra]

Can I do this? I can't seem to tell if Helena meta is doing much

[eager mulch]

for what

[zinc cave]

got any other options?

[fluid umbra]

Boss fleet

[eager mulch]

boss fleet for what

[zinc cave]

wait which meta is this

[eager mulch]

why do you think helena meta isnt doing much

[fluid umbra]

Nagato

[zinc cave]

💀

[fluid umbra]

I just can't tell, I don't know what she's doing

[zinc cave]

she basically doesnt do anything you need to be concerned about

[fluid umbra]

Nana, Laffey Retrofit, Wakatsuki, Chang Chun Retro, Momo, Watarase are my other options

[zinc cave]

Replace Helena META with Sirius

[fluid umbra]

Oh okay

[spring bolt]

momo is easier to sync with, but nagato meta is ending soon, so probably just wait and see what next meta will be

[zinc cave]

whats ur survivability like vs nagato meta?

[fluid umbra]

Helena META lives with 10% HP
Everyone else dies in my vanguard

They're only 120 so I assume 125 would make them live or something

[zinc cave]

do you get 3 airstrikes off?

[fluid umbra]

I do, back row doesn't get hurt. I run out of time.

[marsh tusk]

Is this fleet high enough for an abyssal battle in op siren?

[zinc cave]

okay so not a vanguard survivability issue

[zinc cave]

not sure why sirius is in a fleet with 1 cv

[fluid umbra]

Yeah they live.

I think she's there for her skin

[mellow cape]

Shouldnt NJ be flag?

[marsh tusk]

Cuz I don't know shit about fleet composition and I like her design

[zinc cave]

also using mogador to main tank is a choice

[zinc cave]

you know, i respect that

[fluid umbra]

This is me, but with Ryza fleet, except Ryza fleet is kinda good

[zinc cave]

her barrage doesnt need flagship iirc

[elfin hollow]

u need more cvs, sirius increases cv dmg

[zinc cave]

i mean to answer the question, the levels are decent enough, the fleet composition is a bit contentious though

[elfin hollow]

yea not much synergy

[marsh tusk]

Cv is carrier right?

[zinc cave]

yes

cvl is light carrier fyi

[bold stream]

Hello all! I just got Grobe. I used her prints.. but for some reason I can use them all. What should i do?

[wind hazel]

level her up

[zinc cave]

level up the ship itself to upgrade further

[zinc cave]

tbh this is written terribly

[wind hazel]

i agree

[marsh tusk]

What if I switched out warspite for amagi?

[zinc cave]

amagi bb or amagi cv

[spring bolt]

just selectively EN the most part and see lv 10 only will fix this

[marsh tusk]

Cv

[bold stream]

Thanks!

[zinc cave]

well, it would be an improvement

[spring bolt]

yostar good job as usual

[bold stream]

This is an okay noob gear for her right?

This are all my bb guns.. the gold has normal ammo...

[weary gust]

Gold triple 406 is garbage (all those gold bb guns in your screenshot are garbage tbh). The equipment on Fdg is fine for new player, but you shouldn't be using FdG until she is dev 30.

[fluid umbra]

Should I for sirius?

[eager mulch]

Can you get her to dev30

[fluid umbra]

Can FDG off flag or no?

[eager mulch]

when fs5 yes

[fluid umbra]

Noted

[zinc cave]

perfectly fine off flag even when not fs5

but ideally at fs5

[bold stream]

No just dev 17 atm

[spring bolt]

usually uni should not be flag since she's not that tough and flagship tends to take more damage, but she will fine if you can keep carriers concealed and boss has no position locked barrage
also try to use all 4 fleets to increase the chance if beating the abyss boss, swap gears according to boss type and among the fleets
mog is a good unit but she's not a tank, so she might sink against certain abyss bosses with heavy vanguard damage
overall the fleet is fine, just make sure your other 3 fleets are also combat capable and you are using the right gears

[tawdry topaz]

can I have some relative evaluations of the new collab ships?

[fluid umbra]

SSRs are pretty good on their own for their respective roles.
Elites are mid tier.

Cannot combine all 6 for a faction fleet.

[tawdry topaz]

are they comparable to Pr7 ships or a level below?

[marsh tusk]

Ty, I'll try to see what I have lol. What ship type are tanks?

[spring bolt]

lala is drake +
momo is helena meta side grade
nana is poi kai side grade
yami is top gold bb level if you can correctly use her armor break

[fluid umbra]

I can't give a good rating for that, I don't have pr7 ships yet.

[tawdry topaz]

is poi = portland?

[tame jungle]

Poi = yuudachi retro

[bold stream]

Should I use these all prints for Grobe? Or is this a waste and just gold her every day?

[eager mulch]

poi = yuudachi
poi kai = yuudachi retro

[zinc cave]

there is no 100% classification
CBs are the closest hull type to be consistently called tanky
CAs are usually bulky but it will vary between shipgirls
CLs and DDs have a few tanks due to skill niches

[tawdry topaz]

dont, use them after you max out fdg for prints

[fluid umbra]

Gold every day for ships that can be golded afaik.

[bold stream]

Huh? Why use it for prints if shes already maxed?

[spring bolt]

usually decided by their skills, we have tanks with all hull types
like laffey 2 and felix as dd tanks
ping hai, ning hai as cl tanks
a lot of ca tanks
and all cb can tank to some extent

[tawdry topaz]

prints to buy UR gears in shop

[fluid umbra]

Prints for UR gear

[bold stream]

Okay i will keep in mind. Thanks!

[tawdry topaz]

Just remember dont use Catchup on goldable ships

Catchup after maxing them out for prints

[fluid umbra]

I did on monarch when I started playing a couple years ago.

I'm now behind in UR gear

[tawdry topaz]

me too, learned it the hard way ♿

tbh the only rainbow gear that matters is Tenrai

[fluid umbra]

Quad CL gun is pretty good

[marsh tusk]

Any good ones in here?

I also have

[hollow gust]

the fact his tankiest ship is eugen lmao

[low juniper]

Isn't Brennus tankier than Eugen

[tawdry topaz]

Jervis is a good tank

just up the rainbow ships except for

priortise backliners

[zinc cave]

contentious, she's less naturally bulky than eugen and relies on the shield to mitigate damage

[hollow gust]

tf no lmao

[left cedar]

not ironically, Eugen is one of the tankiest ships in the game, probally top 15th ...

the downside is cost and dmg ... but she is surprissing tankier than most ships

[zinc cave]

At equal lv and gear, Prinz Eugen > Brennus > Portland Retrofit

[marsh tusk]

I also have

[zinc cave]

Sans Francisco is decent, Lala is good, Jeanne de Arc is a vanguard shielder

[fluid umbra]

What ships have prioritiy to 125?

[marsh tusk]

Ty

[zinc cave]

hope u didnt miss the msg above

[zinc cave]

the good ones obviously

[tawdry topaz]

UR, backliners

[fluid umbra]

Noted

[spring bolt]

just ranking with tanking ability
eugen with aug > brennus > eugen no aug > lala > portland retro, san fran will be affected by boss stats more, she can be tankier than portland
rest are not tank role, but mog is the tankier one of them

[forest palm]

is there anything that's tankier than Eugen outside of Research that isn't limited

[tawdry topaz]

did they fix the skill where Morg try to unalive herself?

[low juniper]

Yeah, like, a week after her release lol

[tawdry topaz]

so, she doesnt take dmg from it anymore or she only takes reduced dmg?

[low juniper]

Heavily reduced, it has a cap

[zinc cave]

she's just straight invuln if it damages her over a %

[left cedar]

i dont think so

[low juniper]

If dmg is >5% of max hp it's negated

[tawdry topaz]

honestly just make her invul she is a 2024 ship

[forest palm]

that's the feeling I get

[left cedar]

once Kron gets Perma, she will be the first perma tankier than Eugen

[spring bolt]

solo no, not solo, ping/ning/yat

[jaunty vault]

yat sen but i wouldn't count her

[zinc cave]

Eldridge Retrofit

oh but thats limited mat nvm

[exotic wren]

tbf, technically Agir/Azuma/Brest/Ancho are all perma

[left cedar]

Taz did mention outside Researchs, so they are out

[zinc cave]

yeah its either china wall or eldridge retro (when retro mat is added to spec core shop)

Tallinn might be comparable

[forest palm]

with Augment, nah not Tallinn

[lavish token]

OPsi | Chapter 13 Fleetbuilding help | Research Help

[zinc cave]

ig so

[spring bolt]

actually if you use stuff like ch 15 mob as the model, jervis can be tankier than eugen

[forest palm]

[zinc cave]

eugen tanked a nuke, no contest

[jaunty vault]

is Jervis perma

[zinc cave]

no

jervis was with vanguard event

[marsh tusk]

Are requisitions worth the medals?

[zinc cave]

never

[spring bolt]

when you have the spare medals for req, you probably don't need any ship there unless collection

[sweet delta]

Not never, but never for new players

[forest palm]

there's more shit in the medal shop that has more value than the requisition will ever have, and Requisition only exists if you care for collection

[marsh tusk]

So then should I focus on building Jervis 1st since she's already full limit break?

[spring bolt]

jervis is a mob tank, and you need tank for abyss, so she's not very suitable

[sweet delta]

You already have brennus and where is ancho and aegir

[marsh tusk]

Who and who?

[sweet delta]

Pr4 ships

[low juniper]

Lab > Shipyard > PR4

[marsh tusk]

I'm still on pr1

[zinc cave]

dont have to research in order

[sweet delta]

You shouldn't be

[spring bolt]

you don't need to finish previous pr to do later ones, just do anchor or agir if you can start them

[marsh tusk]

She's the only one I can start, the rest are locked

[zinc cave]

then go for her

[marsh tusk]

Thx, I got 200 pr4 combat exp modules from somewhere so that helps

[eager mulch]

you should not use combat data packs for xp

[tulip thorn]

Any fleet suggestions for this challenge?

[eager mulch]

well who do you have

[marsh tusk]

What else would I use them for?

[eager mulch]

prototype cores

[stark quiver]

https://suchiguma.github.io/ChallengeMode/December

[eager mulch]

It’s November

[stark quiver]

oh fuck me

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/

[marsh tusk]

What are those used for?

[eager mulch]

you can buy good stuff like gear prints in the protocore shop

[tulip thorn]

Seeing Nagato Meta scacred me a second lmao

[bold cove]

Open Depot, click on Combat data packec, it should have option Analyze, do it and you will have prototype cores to buy stuff in proto shop

[marsh tusk]

Oh I've just been using those to get the ur bulins

Haven't touched anything else in that shop

[ivory pawn]

Although it's the same shop, it's a different currency.

[bold cove]

Prototype cores is different currency

use to buy gear part in that shop

[marsh tusk]

Should I focus on designs or weapon blueprints?

[ivory pawn]

Weapon blueprints. Recommendation is the PR3 set first for up to three Champy Guns, and the Prototype Tenrai.

Champy guns are https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype).

[strange sphinx]

what's the boss for this opsi?

[stark quiver]

november its strength,
medium armor

[strange sphinx]

well it's gonna reset later(?)

[stark quiver]

december is heavy

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm

alright gonna do thread for that one

OPSI HARD BOSS

gonna need help, again

[lunar arrow]

Have we got all UR ships for this year?

[marsh tusk]

What is this?

[ivory pawn]

A new one is expected before the year ends.

[undone plover]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[tawdry topaz]

it's been 5 years since we last got a new rainbow gear from event

[undone plover]

last rainbow gear we got was mogador gun in May

[stoic forge]

What gear should i get in lab

[tame jungle]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[stoic forge]

Ok

[rough vale]

all the UR's are MLB'ed. Can I retire these dupes?

[novel solstice]

There's no hugely good reason to have a second copy of a ship. It does allow you to have NJ as a secretary in her oath outfit and also have her as a bunnygirl-outfit secretary if she's your wifu.

Or to flex how cool you are for maxing muliple copies to show off your excess of time/xp/dock-space/etc

[fickle parcel]

For EoM OPSI spam, is C3 more efficient than C5?

[eternal basalt]

Wait for tommorrow (cores)

[undone plover]

Yes if u stop for akashi

[barren tapir]

c3 and c5 have the same cat nodes per ap

but c3 is more runs meaning more akashis, thus slightly more cats due to replenishing ap more

[fickle parcel]

tyty!

[barren tapir]

also more exp/ap i think marginally

[gilded carbon]

What is the responsible lvl and fleet-number to tackle OPSI lvl 6 and Strongholds

Lvl 5 is reasonably doable. But 6 or Stronghold-Bosses shred my fleets

[undone plover]

around 115 for C6 and 120 for stronghold I would say
more importantly make sure your adaptive tuning is correct for both
u want 188/188/144 for stronghold i forgot for C6 but sth around 140/140/100 iirc

if your fleet dies go heal in port and fight again

[barren tapir]

most important is adapt tunings

[boreal wagon]

c6 should be 2x176/135 (assuming abyssal)
like 129/141/99 for normal zones iirc

[gilded carbon]

Noted. I can go and buy these tuning lvls too, right?

[barren tapir]

level 115-120 for stronghold shud suffice with uni

can buy from port shops or farm c1 for adapt

[gilded carbon]

Doable. Some Ships need lvls before i can attempt it then. But it has little reason to be rushed

Thank you all

[languid reef]

any point to keeping golden cats after the original one gets to skill level 3?

[barren tapir]

better talents

[silk sphinx]

you can use them as copies since a different fleet can also use it

also cat skill needs copies to level

[languid reef]

how much better can a good talent make a meowfficer compared to one without a good talent?

[silk sphinx]

so if you get a better cat you need copies to level that

[silk sphinx]

there's some talents that are much better than others, but overall they're not a huge priority

talents can give in some tens of FP/TRP/AVI if you optimize with stuff like +3% dmg or dmg reduction

[barren tapir]

talents are much more impactful and important than the actual skill iirc (tho ideally you want both obviously)

iirc 2 maxed cats can boost a fleet overall by as much as 15-20%?

[silk sphinx]

that high?

[barren tapir]

6% dmg, bunch of rld/hit/fp, critrate, bb related skill, probably?

[silk sphinx]

still feels like 15-20 is too high

[barren tapir]

it's what i heard from endgame ppl

[silk sphinx]

regardless, getting a maxxed cat is ludicrously difficult

[barren tapir]

definitely. it's an endgame thing

[zinc cave]

Because it stacks up with %FP buffs

~80 FP, 6% Crit, 6% Damage, nothing to scoff at

[undone plover]

i think the 20%+ claim is assuming the cat gets u another airstrike/salvo

I could be wrong tho

[silk sphinx]

should be right yeah, that makes sense

[jaunty vault]

too much effort

and time and uncertainty

[sweet delta]

time to bring out the calculars

these 2 cats against hard Strength is already +16.7% over empty cats, without changing gear (obviously higher reload would enable stuff like saiun->vit)

or tenrai->skyraider actually, since the reload boost is so huge

[cobalt rapids]

so cats = good ?

[onyx chasm]

What do I wanna use my medals of honor on?

[sweet delta]

the gold bulins and ships in the medal shop

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#medal

[elfin hollow]

What website is that

[sweet delta]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[onyx chasm]

Is there a priority of what to buy in the event shop?

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#major_event

[keen sable]

C3 at eom seems really sus. Because you were really diligent in ops and now have plenty of time to farm doesn't jibe.

[elfin hollow]

Thanks.

[snow anvil]

guys i just come back and it seems i lost my acc, which server should i start over and is there beginner guide ?

[viscid swift]

well did you bind your account?

[snow anvil]

think so, but I didnt know which server and so far the one i check are starting over with tutorial

[stark quiver]

check all of them

[snow anvil]

[viscid swift]

before you login it should tell you which servers you've had activity on

[stark quiver]

dont need to play the whole tutorial
if it shows, then exit game, and choose next server

[stark quiver]

so many alts

[viscid swift]

like so, the ones with a little person next to them means you have some activity on them

[cobalt rapids]

if it doesnt press on "results found" area and it will scan the servers for your accounts

[snow anvil]

rip

i did have verification mails from years ago

could be different client tho

[wary hawk]

Maybe you never played and it was just a very odd fever dream

[viscid swift]

or they never did bind the account

[snow anvil]

Nuuu my wife is real

[wary hawk]

Your wife is real, but are you?

[viscid swift]

if you have any receipts for in game purchases you can email CS and they should be able to help you get your old account back

if not well you'll have to start over

[snow anvil]

imma assume i lost it for now lmao, which server to start on or all server same ?

[viscid swift]

doesn't really matter since it's the end of the month

[wary hawk]

Usually Lil E stands out as the weird server, but since Musashi reran servers are close to identical

[elfin hollow]

So once I have all the collab ships I'm better off putting my cubes in the standard banners for daily rolls right? Seems obvious but just checking.

[snow anvil]

oh oghey pog

wait the yostar email are case sensitive ?

[novel solstice]

If you have all the collab ships, do one pull per day on the light banner, as it's cheaper -- save cubes for the next event.

Anything in the heavy/special pools, you'll eventually get from event banners, so it's generally not worth pulling on those (and there's not much in those pools that isn't going to be power-crept by event ships anyway).

[soft raft]

1 light pull per day yes

[elfin hollow]

gotcha

[marsh tusk]

How do you get irys libre guns for the gun lab?

[soft raft]

Medal and Merit Shop tech boxes

[real jasper]

The enemy heal herself after falling to 1/3 hp, will she keep healing like that or I will have a chance after regoup (the 2nd time since I already use it)

[marsh tusk]

Ty

[wary hawk]

keeps healing

[soft raft]

Sounds like a DPS check

[real jasper]

So I failed this stage right?

[wary hawk]

Not if you can regroup and dps check it

[real jasper]

I dont have enough dps sadly

[stable badger]

do notification for Commissions not work for emulator? i have them on, in the settings yet. i get nothing if game does Auto-play

[cobalt rapids]

concentrate ur bigger dmg ships in 1 fleet
like putting musashi yami and helena in 1 for example

[real jasper]

My helena doesnt have her retrofit yet, yami is not geared enough I think

[storm heron]

[sweet delta]

low adapt doesnt help

[real jasper]

so I need to use some adapt item?

[marsh tusk]

Is a purple crafted gun better than lvl 10 yellow non crafted one?

[wary hawk]

Need more information

[real jasper]

how many adapt item should I use for this?

[cobalt rapids]

both of these guns are bad

[stark quiver]

the secondary gun is good

[sweet delta]

all adapts, because adapt items are useless otherwise

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#bb_guns give this a read

[viscid swift]

almost everything there is bad

[real jasper]

if I try retro helena now, will she join battle in retrofit form?

[wary hawk]

Yes

[real jasper]

oh ty, I will try it tomorrow, 8 hours for regroup anyway

[barren tapir]

if you cant do at least 30% hp per fight i wouldnt bother it'd take too long/too many attempts

regroup is waste of ap also opsi resets tomorrow

[cobalt rapids]

u have 9h:30 till reset

[barren tapir]

personally if the abyssal is too hard i'd just cut my losses instead of dumping so much resources into it

[marsh tusk]

But I need the purple one to get the yellow prototype

[cobalt rapids]

rest and regroup should only be used in abysals maps if needed
otherwise redeploy or repair at port

[stark quiver]

protocore

[cobalt rapids]

abysall rewards are worth 50 ap

[undone plover]

i think he was talking about the heal buff
i would just get to 50% and leave for that one till u are stronger

[barren tapir]

r&r max once for c6 abyssal if you still cant do it just leave and use the ap on something better (bc odds are if you cant do the abyssal with full refresh + 2 hidden mob, trying longer won't get you anywhere)

and c4/c5 isnt worth r&r imo

[barren tapir]

theyre worth 50, not 100 or 150

consider that while stuck waiting on r&r you also cant do anything else in opsi which could be a loss depending

[undone plover]

honestly depends
if u have no icon left on the map one gold plate is worth 250+ AP

[real jasper]

it's the 1st time I do it, and my 1st day doing opsi too, so I'm pretty hyped to try the stage to see what's within lol

[barren tapir]

sure if it's the last thing you need to finish before reset. but also you likely wont have enough time to r&r several times in that case lol

[sweet delta]

maybe it wasn't a good idea to enter blindly a map that the game warns you is very difficult

[wary hawk]

suchi dot github strikes again

[barren tapir]

like if you have to wait long enough you begin missing out on opsi dailies it's DEFINITELY no longer worth it

[stark quiver]

what even is github

[undone plover]

if u havent cleared chapter 4 of opsi story you wont reset so u leave the other bosses alone
u will have 1 month to finish them

[real jasper]

how long until I have the daily? I have no daily now, so I need to progress the main story right?

[barren tapir]

also it depends on like how close you are

if it's a heal boss and you're doing under 25 bars and cant make MAJOR improvements to your fleet within a day or two, it really isnt worth coping

if you're doing like 28-32 bars and just need a few more attempts, then it's worth it

[barren tapir]

well, you're losing out by not having dailies unlocked as well, so consider that too

[undone plover]

follow the opsi story for now
check your port shops every 3 days

unless u can finish 4 chapters before monthly reset
idk if u even have enough AP for that

[real jasper]

ty, then I'll quit this and do some story then ^^

[barren tapir]

opsi story took me like a week or so rushing in 1 day might be doable idk but it certainly wont be fun...theres a lot of manual babysitting for fleet moving etc

[real jasper]

I'm at chapter 4 already, so almost there right?

[undone plover]

oh try and finish then

[real jasper]

it's Sunday so maybe I can do it

[barren tapir]

yes definitely try and finish before daily reset

also iirc if you sit in opsi it wont reset until you leave

[undone plover]

if u reach any of the puzzle maps just move enough and will solve it for u

[keen sable]

You have 9 hours...

[barren tapir]

you should be fine if you have the time yeah

[real jasper]

it seems like early progress are all coint gated

[wary hawk]

Don't worry, late progress is coin gated too

[real jasper]

I have all other things except for coin

[barren tapir]

don't worry, coin will be an issue until it isn't

when is it isn't? i haven't found out yet

[viscid swift]

well one massive costs goes away when you're done coining all the PR ships, and also when you finish research and all you care about is gear prints

[barren tapir]

30min gear research wiped the last of my coins

[viscid swift]

being bottleknecked by cogs also helps as well as being done limit breaking most of your ships and maxing most of your used gear

[snow anvil]

where can i find beginner progression guide

[viscid swift]

basically when your costs drop the minimum do coins kind of stop becoming an issue

[snow anvil]

or just go as far in campaign

[viscid swift]

this would be a good start
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[real jasper]

lol today I even skipped plymouth blueprint because no coin left

[wary hawk]

Am I missing something or is suchi dot github lying to me?

[barren tapir]

this ones off too lmao nani

[real jasper]

btw to increase UR from 120 to 125 we need how many coin?

[hollow sail]

two things, the value on the left image is the in-game value, also there's an absolute cooldown of ~0.03 which means the actual cooldown is 19.98. but yes that works

[hollow sail]

that is correct, lars calc has the 0.03 factored

[barren tapir]

ahh ok so lar calc is correct

the other one is a common non-lar L i guess

[hollow sail]

idk what's the inaccuracy on traneptora

but it is incorrect, so...

[barren tapir]

maybe it mistakenly adds an abscd of 0.1s

[wary hawk]

I feel betrayed twice over now

[cobalt rapids]

traneptora adds 0.1s as abs cd

which isnt right for cvs

[wary hawk]

Nvm it worked, no longer betrayed by suchi. Im a 2 reload tech believer

[hollow sail]

he's just giving the in-game value so people aren't confused for not matching the ingame otherwise

[cobalt rapids]

what talents does mega bis lime have

[wary hawk]

Please don't be mean to mega bis lime when mega bis lime is not mega bis

[stark quiver]

its actaully , not that bad

[hollow sail]

above average cat

[sweet delta]

Sirius for buffing Unicorn

[wary hawk]

sirius for oops its 30th and I dont have any non meme units leveled

[sweet delta]

yeah let's go with this ||I don't remember whether I meant to match the game or the larscalc||

[wary hawk]

Aurora is all lv 1 skills too

[sweet delta]

you should get that fixed with the rapid trainingcampaign

[barren tapir]

10% still gud

[wary hawk]

You say that but I was told to buy kashino skin so shes up first

[barren tapir]

i got helena to 10 just for cm lol

[wary hawk]

And there's another 30 days till I have to panic about the next cm

[marsh tusk]

Does op siren lower morale?

[barren tapir]

will nagato meta be able to carry me in the next cm

[keen sable]

No but ships in ops do get xp based on morale

[undone plover]

I think u will want CV for next one
Idk her gimmicks tho

[barren tapir]

normal mode ofc i dont think i am anywhere close to hard mode

[marsh tusk]

Ty

[barren tapir]

or would amagi be better (cos i cant use them together ofc)

i dont have a slower and she'd desync from warspite's self-stop

also nagato is my best bb and would be able to kill her shield

[sweet delta]

what happened to musashi

[barren tapir]

i didnt get her cared about collab

[wary hawk]

Good priorities

[hollow sail]

waifu priority best priority

[undone plover]

Can wait for december UR

[real jasper]

I started the game on 20th for this collab, but on my 1st day I get some free pull and get a lucky Musashi lol, she carry me hard until this point

[weary quartz]

Good site for tier list or team building??? Thanks

[cobalt rapids]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[undone plover]

Sushi I am reading the dec CM guide
Can u explain the 20s bb int failure strat pls?
If the bb is already 20s why would it fail the first charge?

[wary hawk]

i cant wait to try the int strat it sounds right up my alley

[barren tapir]

first charge is at 9:50ish iirc

[undone plover]

Oh

[barren tapir]

tho i figure you could manual for the first 30s to avoid taking the big dmg?

like start manual and send torps for the first, hold off on your stuff until the second, then turn on auto

[sweet delta]

with AFCT, your first BB's first volley could hit it. But it may not do enough damage

[weary quartz]

Thanks

[undone plover]

I just didnt read the timestamps
I get it now

[fickle parcel]

Huh? Sorry, I don't understand what you're getting at. I just spammed 2k AP claim and I'm auto repeating C3 now.

[barren tapir]

idk why c3 would be sus, as long as you have time to finish

[sweet delta]

i don't get it either

[barren tapir]

if you're in a rush do c5

[versed dagger]

what's a good mob fleet for opsi?

[undone plover]

Unicorn + 5

[cobalt rapids]

fastest one u can make that can solo strongholds for QoL clears
some ships that need xp + a healer to carry if u want xp crumbs

[barren tapir]

could always make 2 of them, 1 for auto stronghold and 1 for low level shitters in c1

[versed dagger]

?

[barren tapir]

dont worry about it i am just expmaxxing

[undone plover]

Are u new to opsi?
Are trying to clear stuff fast?
Do u want to auto strongholds?
Do u want to raise some ships farming opsi daily?

[wary hawk]

This Aurora does NOT have lv 1 skills

[barren tapir]

but for example you could use unicorn in the strong mob fleet to 1 fleet everything

and have someone like percy babysit 5 low level ships that you get exp on through opsi dailies or end of month c3 spamming.

and if you wanna go further, c1 spam when you have spare time to build bonus ap and get a bunch of exp freely but slowly

[versed dagger]

no, but i know almost nothing
i just want the dam materials that take ages to get
yes
i don't need exp

[barren tapir]

then just unicorn + 5 op ships

preloads are nice for faster battles

[versed dagger]

well guess who i forgot to put in any of my teams

[undone plover]

Then unicorn + your strongest Bb that is not in your boss fleet + another BB/CV (independence is nice) and your strongest vanguards that are not in boss fleets

If u want specific examples make a thread and post your dock

[barren tapir]

nagato meta + indep + uni is a great non-UR backline since idk what URs you have

[versed dagger]

all of them

[undone plover]

Shouldnt nagato be in your BB fleet

[barren tapir]

i uhhh dont have specified fleets

[undone plover]

Next month then

[versed dagger]

ye, i'll finalize the teams tomorrow

[barren tapir]

i have 1 fodder fleet to enable abyssal weaknesses

strong mobfleet (when clearing stuff, it's nagato uni indep) to weaken it

boss fleet with nelson sara amagicv and helena sirius for the main damage

[undone plover]

The abyssal weakness thing does not work sadly

[barren tapir]

wat

works for me, my cvs do way more dmg once at +30/50/100%

[undone plover]

The 30% vulnerability thing
The game is lying

[barren tapir]

which is why my 'boss' fleet goes last

but when i do it in this order i do the most dmg compared to any other order

[undone plover]

[barren tapir]

and unless it's a bb abyssal i just auto it, so its not some weird manual thing

[undone plover]

Well some abyssals have specific buffs that activate <30% hp
But the one where it says the abyssal has avi/shell/torpedo vulnr is a scam

[barren tapir]

well then i guess my fleets benefit from placebo somehow

[cobalt rapids]

this is the fastest opsi fleet that can also solo strongholds with no issues but it steals 1 meta UR from bossing fleets which u may or may not wanna do

[undone plover]

Is this better than aquila luna fleet neko?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[barren tapir]

what's the fastest c1 fleet? asking for research purposes

[versed dagger]

i asume c1 is chapter 1, right?

[barren tapir]

corrosion

[cobalt rapids]

corrosion 1

[undone plover]

None
The battle will finish with crossfleet anyway

[barren tapir]

uni + pink vg was doing 5-6 seconds iirc

[sweet delta]

it involves little fdg, liverpool, algmeta, and royal oak

[barren tapir]

oh shit that is cool synergy lol, algmeta triggers royal oak and little fdg barrages?

[versed dagger]

corrosion 6 map completed and no gear lab plans on sight

opsi is a lie, and all 3 of my useful fleets almost sink

[barren tapir]

opsi is a marathon not a sprint you accumulate all that over months and months

[versed dagger]

guess december is when i lock in opsi

[cobalt rapids]

lock in every month

[wary hawk]

Lock in every day

[versed dagger]

but long

[cobalt rapids]

the meat of opsi are the dailies and shiny icons

[versed dagger]

ok then, i'll come back tomorrow to finish my fleets

[sweet delta]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1uW421R7r3?spm_id_from=333.788.videopod.episodes

[barren tapir]

goddamn

[noble tulip]

Fastest is augment Ibuki, other options are Hinden or Perseus

[barren tapir]

new meta gem farming fleet just dropped

[stark quiver]

took more time loading than fighting

[hollow gust]

time to use 2 mob fleets

[versed dagger]

is this real?

[barren tapir]

it autoplayed to a 5min video showcasing the same fleet after very very fast c1 farm

[barren tapir]

that's actually my plan for next month lol

c1 fleet, nagatom uni indep pink proper mob fleet, and 2 boss fleet/filler for abyssal

[mellow cape]

Why not just 1 for op si? A good mob fleet handles everything except arbiter

[barren tapir]

c1 without uni is much less efficient but it can level up incredibly low level ships so it's nice to save books

[cobalt rapids]

3s c1 fleet wont solo the stronghold

[hollow gust]

One weak and fast one stronger one for abyssal and stronghold

[barren tapir]

c1 fleet is like 6 lowbie ships

so i dont have to swap between them and a proper fleet to go between c1 and actual opsi content like i had to this month

[mellow cape]

Oh I see

How long does it take you to lvl up a fleet in c1?

[barren tapir]

when i have percy she will be the c1 champion

[barren tapir]

dunno cos i mix it with t5

but like for example i didnt use a single exp book on ruppy or lusty and theyre now 90 and 82 from a couple days ago (i also took them out of t5 today to level some other ships)

[versed dagger]

So opsi is also good for exp?

[barren tapir]

it's free and if you do c1 it's infinitely sustainable. but it is slow

[cobalt rapids]

its also kinda pointless unless ure a newbie and u have alot of frontloaded cog chips

[spring bolt]

c1 isn't recommended to anyone who has a life

[barren tapir]

for long term players exp is rarely an issue compared to cog chips, but for a newbie... idk i find it very helpful

so many tech points needed for research, combat data collections, levelling actual good ships to lvl120 to use...

until you run out of cog chips i think it's nice

[mellow cape]

Mmm I'll probably stick to 12-4, tho first time I'm hearing anyone using c1 to lvl ships

Ty for the information

[cobalt rapids]

its because using ur oil alr puts xp income > cog income
so it would only be usefull if ur cog income > xp income meaning ur not that active but if not active lol c1

[versed dagger]

Could be useful to level up the dam pelt team

[barren tapir]

well not necessarily, since some ppl are doing low oil stuff in events and that doesnt gain exp

the same kind of ppl who would enjoy c1, so it fits

[cobalt rapids]

i think even accounting for that
can ask cheeky how his cogs look like

[barren tapir]

well yeah. there's also the positive ap -> slightly more opsi stuff per month

[cobalt rapids]

that is worth investigating

[barren tapir]

generally speaking tho you don't do c1 unless you actually like it, so there doesnt need to be a metagaming justification lol

[spring bolt]

well tbh im 35 ish ships to max fleet tech and i don't really have cog issue...

[sweet delta]

i don't like it but i do it

[barren tapir]

there is a cursed idea i had, where you farm w15 for the most efficient cogs per oil and then level ships in opsi

[sweet delta]

you're almost done with all DD ASW?

i think you mean low oil 13-1

[humble solar]

Is Plymouth still viable

[barren tapir]

oh, that then

[hollow gust]

Still one of the best bb supports

[humble solar]

I only need the 2.4 million XP grind to get her

[barren tapir]

i wonder if i will have cog issues

[sweet delta]

you can't have cog issues if you quit the game before they start

[cobalt rapids]

well its a good idea
i cant say if 15-1 farming puts you at higher cog > xp tho ||because i whale for both oil and cogs||

[humble solar]

Wtf are cogs

[cobalt rapids]

[barren tapir]

well changed it to 13-1 1:1 since i forgot that is a thing

but yeah either way you're not getting much/any exp doing those, so naturally cogs > exp then

[cobalt rapids]

ofc the c1 farmer would 1:1 13-1

[storm heron]

how does one low oil for coins

[barren tapir]

1:1 11-1 with ruppy and UR bulin or so i heard (?)

[cobalt rapids]

its still 3 ships at a very good xp eff but yea

[frank pulsar]

imho even if exp income > cog income most people dont farm enough for that to matter, i farm 2-4 hours a day and still have net positive cog income

discord didnt scroll

[cobalt rapids]

if people dont farm enough then they def shouldnt do c1

[humble solar]

Oh cognition chips

[barren tapir]

idk if they are trustworthy but its supposedly a thing

[hollow gust]

[barren tapir]

endgame AL players clearly have too much time on their hands to come up with such things

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZujLQivFuYf9OwVwnxB_k0hjeeOZCulAkn66vtr1Ya0/edit?gid=2037048040#gid=2037048040 also the source. cant say anything about their tierlist's accuracy or lack thereof but it is one i cross-reference occasionally (alongside ectl and regal)

[sweet delta]

i found this a month ago

the tier lists are complete bogus

[stark quiver]

what rarity bulin did i need for bumper bulin

[barren tapir]

has to be UR, with her augment for the barrage thing

[hollow gust]

Damn who cooked this

[mellow cape]

interesting Google doc

[stark quiver]

ig ill need to raise a UR bulin

[dreamy blade]

bulin has a unique aug?

[versed dagger]

So where do i take my low level ships to level up

[sweet delta]

nowhere, just use exp packs

[dreamy blade]

the character screen and feed them books

dorm/books/pvp to 60ish or so then you can farm event

[barren tapir]

ngl i never looked at that

[barren tapir]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Ultra_Rainbow_Hammer

[dreamy blade]

oh from an april fools event

but the barrage suffers from a -100% DMG penalty
how does that work

[versed dagger]

If it's the one i think it is then i couldn't get it because game bugged out

[sweet delta]

but it does do very high damage in low cost fleet

[barren tapir]

i have no idea but it gives stats

maybe the -100% dmg isnt applied properly

[dreamy blade]

theres no way 9 FP/RLD makes that big of a diff right

[stark quiver]

thats why bumper bulin

[sweet delta]

the hammer did like 15x the damage of one main gun bullet

and it has big splash

[mellow cape]

Oh wtf

What kind of farms did people use bulins in for?

[stark quiver]

challenge mode
specifically spee

[mellow cape]

As of now I lack low cost oil gold garming

[barren tapir]

oh ok so the -100% dmg definitely isnt properly applied cos isnt that supposed to make it do 1 damage

[boreal wagon]

the wiki is very misleading in what it means, what it is talking about is that with the release of that augment urin has gotten a new hidden skill that is always active

[barren tapir]

well i know hikari(?) is 8 oiling t5 with UR bulin

[boreal wagon]

which causes her to do that barrage at -100% dmg penalty, the augment removes that -100% dmg penalty when equipped

[full trout]

So am I missing something?I just reached chapter 9 and the oil is still like 66 per run. I thought there was a limit once you hit chapter nine. No?

[storm heron]

once you full clear the level

[barren tapir]

oh shit so then she is actually good

[boreal wagon]

i mean its still a bulin

[full trout]

Aaaaah. Thanks!

[barren tapir]

good for low cost

[mellow cape]

And do people use her for anything else? I saw challenge mode which I don't think I ever touched loll

[barren tapir]

3 oil lvl125 ship, has some niches im sure

[barren tapir]

example

[toxic sandal]

for a new player, is the oil capped event is worth farming in general even past 55k points?

[barren tapir]

id assume its ranger cassin downes UR bulin

[storm heron]

imo no when you can farm higher campaign stages

[sweet delta]

it's better than anything below chapter 11

[barren tapir]

good exp/oil (very slightly under 11-1), good source of purple plates, bad coin/oil, easy for low level/bad ships, gearskin drops

you farm it if you want what it provides or havent gone past ch11 yet, otherwise go to ch12

[toxic sandal]

k thanks! i'm only on 9-3 but could prob clear 11 but i don't think i'd be able to full auto it like i can the event

[barren tapir]

how is the gold roomba as a slap-it-on-ships-for-basic-AA? if i dont have other things

like compared to say, purple bofors

[sweet delta]

better, no contest

better than gold quad bofors too

[storm heron]

event t5 kinda fire for roomba and toolkit

[barren tapir]

ok then t5 has that as a bonus too since ive had shitty techbox luck for aa guns too

iirc ive gotten 3 from the event so far

[hollow gust]

I have too much sextuples

[dreamy blade]

is the event better than 12-4 for purple plates?

[hollow gust]

Grind 12-4 when you have what u wanted

[barren tapir]

per oil yes because of the elites

i havent actually tested this, but since you can do 2 runs of t5 for every 1 run of 12-4 it feels like a no-brainer

[forest palm]

after you hit 55k milestone just rinse, and go to 12-4

[hollow gust]

You get way more gold and even cogs, it’s a no brainer

[dreamy blade]

fdg won't count for this bc she's a DR ship right

[storm heron]

count

[barren tapir]

you aren't doing t5 for purple plates specifically, it's just a bonus

[sweet delta]

Graf Friedrich?

[barren tapir]

you'd stick to t5 (or t4 low oil) if you want gearskins or more than 55k worth of shop items, otherwise 12-1/12-4 yes

[mellow cape]

Players typically have a cog chip shortage when they are below maxed out fleet tech right? How many cog chips does a vet typically have?

[hollow gust]

0 to 200k

[storm heron]

I have 30k

[barren tapir]

you also wont have a cog chip shortage if you have no coins to awaken with 🧠

[dreamy blade]

well im at 44k points so i went back to 12-4 since the ~1.5k daily points from sp/missions should get me pretty close to 55

[stark quiver]

60k, cuz no coin to awakern

[barren tapir]

im at somewhere in 85-90k point range currently, intending to drain my oil to 0 before event ends

gearskins + toolkit + roomba + plates is worth more to me currently

[hollow gust]

Only thing valuable is gold plates

[mellow cape]

[dreamy blade]

my coins got drained to 0 so took a break from the event

[mellow cape]

If you're after roombas are you also after the Bofors

[sweet delta]

you didn't start with PR4?

[storm heron]

PR5

[dreamy blade]

i also started with pr5 following sams guide

[hollow gust]

Just craft aa guns in gear lab smh

[barren tapir]

i started with pr5 cos waifu and sam guide made me guilt free

[barren tapir]

i am after everything

[storm heron]

and here I thought we are waiting for that essay

[hollow gust]

Plymouth biased

[barren tapir]

[hollow gust]

Rup is a useless brat though

[dreamy blade]

i've been afraid of "wasting" gear lab mats so i think ive only crafted like 3 things there im assuming crafting roombas there isnt worth

[barren tapir]

i craft stuff as needed tbh it's not worth worrying too much about 'waste' unless you tryna speedrun the campaign or something

[dreamy blade]

well tbh it's more about wasting coins than the actual mats

[barren tapir]

the coins isnt too much tho

[dreamy blade]

2k is a lot when i have 0 tho

[barren tapir]

but coin is easy and mats are hard

[storm heron]

you want coins, just wait 24 hours, you will have 2.5k oil, and farm 12-4 brings you back to 16k
you want more electronics, welp good luck

[dreamy blade]

all the more reason ive been avoiding crafting in gear lab

[undone plover]

U should worry about wasting gold plates

[dreamy blade]

i think i've only made gold quad mag torps, a flapjack, and a bidder so far

i've only used gold plates on a ryusei and champy gun

oh i also +13'd a white shell but it's mainly gun/aircraft plates i have to worry about right

[weary gust]

Gold aux plates are less important than plane/gun, since they only improve stats a little, whereas gun/plane get +18% damage at +13

[barren tapir]

ive made several 128s, 2 137s (kinda a mistake but eh they do work ok), a flapjack, a wyvern, and 2 quadmags so far

also a cheshiregun

[vale spindle]

fixed
one of my biggest pet peeves is people bashing on the wiki without mentioning anything in any of the multiple feedback channels we have to respond to stuff like this

[barren tapir]

the only gold plate was +11 mk6 to do cm yes it was needed

im just gonna sit on them for ages and ages until i actually progress campaign

[dreamy blade]

I +13d champy gun first since thats what everyone recommends but it's kindof weird since my only UR BB is musashi who cant use it

[cobalt rapids]

was 4% more mk6 dmg rly needed

[elfin hollow]

I need help, is there a way to get coins faster. I'm Soo broke rn

[barren tapir]

after 4 hours of rolling for better rng, i cleared with 11 seconds to spare. so yes.

[hollow gust]

Ask the US for funding

[elfin hollow]

Who put a oil emoji on my message

[elfin hollow]

I'm being serious, I'm Soo broke 😭💔

[barren tapir]

farm 12-1 or 12-4 with oils

[elfin hollow]

The campaign?

[dreamy blade]

yes

[storm heron]

you have to understand why you are broke

[elfin hollow]

I'm still at 5-1 5-4

[elfin hollow]

Okay, let me put on the list im doing.

[barren tapir]

and i know i could wait til next year and it wasnt even hard mode but. i was SO CLOSE and it was really annoying me, so it was worth it to me so i didnt have to deal with it bugging me

[storm heron]

would like to see the financial audit

[cobalt rapids]

well u can recover them with eventual mk7 craft but it will cost u extra
i feel like you couldve gotten other improvements than resorting to +ing mk6

[barren tapir]

not under the time limit i dont think a couple more levels on lala and momo would've done enough

even with that i needed very good helena, geometric, and hit-eva luck to win

[true kraken]

That's sound personal

[cobalt rapids]

what was ur endscreen

[elfin hollow]

1. I spend way too much trying to retrofit few royal navy ships.
2. I spend few coins for 10 gacha pulls sometimes.
3. Spend too much for research and donation on guild.
4. I buy lots of exp book at the shop.

I'm broke help meee

[barren tapir]

also i considered bf109 but i'd have been 2 prints short since i didnt focus pr4 so i was stuck without that

[storm heron]

3. You should only donate coins as the second last option

[cobalt rapids]

because 4% more mk6 dmg is just like 2-3% more bb dmg
so lala and momo only needed like 2 lvls and to deal half the dmg of that bb

[elfin hollow]

Why is it so hard for me to get new items for ship.

[outer schooner]

Still no update for the gdoc with an analysis of the collab?

[topaz smelt]

anyone got that pr coining chart?

[elfin hollow]

Yooo drake

[storm heron]

Riceist spotted

[vale spindle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research#Enhancing_with_Coins right here big dawg

[barren tapir]

the vg dmg was rather inconsistent, actually everything was inconsistent, since i had runs as worse as 90% dmg dealt

1 day isnt a lot of time. it was worth it to me

[topaz smelt]

how long has that been on the wiki

[barren tapir]

also not pictured is how i kept elbing burning for the entire fight, idk how much dmg that contributed

[topaz smelt]

well anyways thx

[cobalt rapids]

well if ure satisfied with your investment then thats what matters at the end of the day

[vale spindle]

since january 2023

[barren tapir]

lala had HE secondary and helena HE main and secondary to keep nagatom burns going, noticeable improvement (~5%?) than when i didnt have those

[hollow gust]

~~My dude can’t scroll ~~

[mellow cape]

What does your fleet look like as of now?

[vague fable]

do I have to defeat every enemy in operation siren

[outer schooner]

Is Zwei strong enough an upgrade over Hood/Honaka that I max her or think I should wait to see who next UR is?

[mellow cape]

Zwei is definitely worth maxing Lol

[hollow gust]

Zwei is one of the best bbs ingame

[barren tapir]

exploration: yes
secured: yes (to clear and reset it to do it again. for dailies only, no)
hiddens: no, just rally points
stronghold: no, just the bosses and any blocking fleet (you can avoid the blocking fleets with clever multi-fleet navigations but imagine doing that), but autosearch will kill everything
abyssal: no, just the boss, there's 2 mobs for recovering resolve if needed

[vague fable]

understood , thank you

[elfin hollow]

do u guys use hindenburg on mob or boss fleets

[vale spindle]

either works

[elfin hollow]

oki

[undone plover]

@barren tapir
I also +11 a mk6 so dont feel too bad about it
Although just a headsup imo gold plates are the rarest materials in this game (because u need so much of them) so be careful how you use em
When u start out you might think UR bulins or UR gear lab mats are rarer but it is always going to be gold plates

[barren tapir]

tbh i thought it'd be UR ordinances since you only get 1/month guaranteed

but point taken

[hollow sail]

gold plates are the only true gatekeep

[undone plover]

Technically u also get ~15 t2 ordnances/month which u can convert up
While ordnances are also very rare u dont really need much of them (yet) since the gear u make with it has sidegrades or is kinda niche
Might change in future tho

[boreal wagon]

any chance u could improve the wording on the page for the augment itself aswell? since that was the original source of confusion

it also claims its based on mgm fires rather than being every 10s there

[sweet delta]

New bis gear to be +13'd keep getting released, and catching up for a full set of gear also takes years.
New UR gear lab gear doesn't get released much.

[barren tapir]

well then at least i can get them back with expensiver mk7

[crisp tree]

Which would outperform which, Sovetskaya belorussiya max LMB or Musashi 5 stars? If I put Musashi in I can also proc Shinanos Sakura empire buff thingy

[undone plover]

I would use musashi

[hollow gust]

Musashi is a better ship, Belorussiya kinda

[dreamy blade]

monthly reset tomorrow so you can mlb musashi soon

[crisp tree]

Alright thanks

[undone plover]

If he saved his weekly missions even sooner

[barren tapir]

would 100% use musashi at 2lb over many gold bb

[crisp tree]

Missing two bulins sadly so I'll have to wait till January to get her MLB, that's assuming they don't give us a free UR bulin though

[barren tapir]

UR event always has a bulin

[crisp tree]

Oh, noice

[barren tapir]

there's also new cruise pass starting december which has one as well at lvl100 iirc

[undone plover]

December UR should come with bulin at 30k milestone
Also the cap is effectively 6k now
So even if u have 2k speccore u can get 2 bulins next month

Make sure u get the 1k spec core from medal shop

[barren tapir]

also silly question but you did get the black friday stuff right

[dreamy blade]

wait it's 6k now?

[undone plover]

5k monthly and 1k medal shop

[ivory pawn]

Buy 1k w/medals.

[barren tapir]

cap is 5k + 1k bypassing cap from medal shop, not actual 6k cap

[dreamy blade]

oh thats what you mean

[crisp tree]

Bought it all out, well except the gem shop

[barren tapir]

(i feel the distinction is important now cos we got black friday also bypassing cap for example)

[undone plover]

Yeah I just wanted to type less

[dreamy blade]

is Giulio Cesare META any good or just another fodder ship

[hollow gust]

Tbd

[barren tapir]

99.9% to be fodder

[stark quiver]

what does the 5k oil logger do

[hollow gust]

99% fodder lmao

[dreamy blade]

it just removes the limitation for exploring zones after opsi reset

[barren tapir]

also 99% to have good tech, most likely is bb rld

[storm heron]

casare was hit?

[hollow gust]

Shes hit

[undone plover]

recon all the explorable maps
Allows u to strategic search them
And gives some of the rewards for clearing them (you should still clear them)

[barren tapir]

oh nvm i thought metas copied their og tech

[dreamy blade]

since usually after reset you have to clear adjacent zones to unlock the ones further in

[hollow gust]

Gulio is hit

[barren tapir]

oh wait they do and i just misremembered her tech

[hollow gust]

U misremembered

[barren tapir]

i think i mixed her up with conte my bad

[young lake]

would Tallin be a good swap for Saint Louis on a mob fleet?

[barren tapir]

same class, honest mistake smh

[undone plover]

Talinn is a better tank but maybe not worth the gold bulins if u have sth better

[young lake]

any recc's then ill see if i have em

[barren tapir]

sanrui 94%
tallinn 118%

solid upgrade but debatable depending on your gold bulin situation as tallinn is just ok iirc

would be easier if u made thread and post dock

[sweet delta]

i recc dev 30 Napoli
wdym you don't have that? better show what you have then

[undone plover]

Better just post your fleet and dock tbh
Also where u are in campaign
Anchorage and agir would be what u want to get next for tanks

[young lake]

aight one sec

and 10-4

[barren tapir]

i recc pr8 CB that dont exist yet

[dreamy blade]

mlb tallin for the np tech

[sharp pine]

So, is there a strategy for dealing with Strength? She's the only Arbiter in Opsi I struggle with.

[young lake]

Fleet and dock

[sharp socket]

avoid the shield

[undone plover]

Easiest is to make 4 strong fleets and deal dmg to her before her dome shield

[gusty olive]

Go nuts until her shield procs and it's over. Do note of the 5 seconds invulnerability

[stark quiver]

If I don’t buy 5k logger? Would I need to manually perform recon on zones

[sharp socket]

you can do this by going really fast or going really slow

[barren tapir]

HSFCR bbs will shoot before shield iirc

for cvs just manual for a few sec to avoid shield

[stark quiver]

Oh wait nvm

[undone plover]

Hard mode this month has an extra shield at 20s intervals so u want to also avoid that by going faster or slower than it
For BB u might be able to go faster
For CV u will go after the shield

Champy AP gun is good for BB
Bf109 is good for CV
If u want specific help make a thread

[gusty olive]

The UR one?

[sharp socket]

for BBs you can use 457s and tech requirement is none

[stark quiver]

Either

[barren tapir]

either, the main thing is -15% cd

[sharp socket]

for champy guns need tech/cats/both

[barren tapir]

[sharp socket]

cause the 2nd shot is gonna hit the shield

partially at best

[gusty olive]

And here I was worried 2 shots are low

[sharp socket]

457s dont hit the shield partially until the third strike

[stark quiver]

0 tech gaming?

[sharp socket]

tech + cats with 457 can be bad cause you desync 2 helena scans which are very big when the fight is meant to last 2 strikes

[sharp socket]

new player strats

[vale spindle]

fixed
its timed

[sweet delta]

new player strat is mk4 + 457. New player in tech but not in gear lab mats

[gusty olive]

What if... Georgia guns

[sharp socket]

what do you think a 457 is

[gusty olive]

Right...

Don't expect me memorizing the actual name smh

[barren tapir]

what is mk4 again

[sharp socket]

precursor to 457

[stark quiver]

PvP gun

[barren tapir]

ic

[sharp socket]

aka soyuz gun in pvp

[vale spindle]

also apparently the barrage without augment only activates once per battle

[blissful hamlet]

should I do DD TRP or Cl TRP? yes I have done literally everything else

[barren tapir]

do april fools events ever rerun

[stark quiver]

I guess cl
You’ll probably use them more

[barren tapir]

or will i never have the glorious low oil UR bulin?

[blissful hamlet]

why not DD? there's no cl with good torps

[undone plover]

dd get better benefit but u will use plymouth more
In practice raise both at the same time cause u dont want to run 3 dd together

[barren tapir]

jintsuu meta. and cl have lower base trp stat so tech is more impactful for them

[undone plover]

Wait I read as fp

Just do whatever at that point
Doesnt rly matter much

[stark quiver]

You’ll probably use cls more

[blissful hamlet]

[stark quiver]

Unless you like doing dd torp memes in ex

[barren tapir]

just do both at once tbh

[sweet delta]

:serenity:

[barren tapir]

bc who wants to run a triple dd fleet even for levelling

[blissful hamlet]

I did actually when I do dd fp

[eager mulch]

[barren tapir]

the speed and ramming

[vague fable]

what is worth buying with the purple thing you get in opsi

[blissful hamlet]

it works fine for me, probably other people just have skill issue