gameplay-help

[onyx chasm]

Anyone know where I can get that blueprint?

[stark quiver]

hard mode x-4
guild shop
i think medal shop

[ivory pawn]

While you can get it from Medal shop, would not recommend buying them from there as a new player.

[onyx chasm]

Also is this important?

[onyx chasm]

I alr got enterprise from that

[stark quiver]

very

[ivory pawn]

Yes. Not sure what the current recommendation is tho, PR5?

[onyx chasm]

Like what do i do

[stark quiver]

standardly its

fdg research for catchup
and pr4 focus for starters

then after pr4 > pr5 > pr7 > pr6

[onyx chasm]

fdg?

[ivory pawn]

Freiderich de Grose.

[strong tartan]

Friedrich der Grosse she's from pr2

[ivory pawn]

Yes I misspelled it. She's in PR2.

[onyx chasm]

Aight I selected her

Now I'm not a starter so do i got pr5?

[strong tartan]

Select pr4 for catchup

[onyx chasm]

Catchup?

[strong tartan]

This

[onyx chasm]

What's the difference

[stark quiver]

research season
comes in 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, each has their own ship bps/gear
catchup is just getting extra bps for a specific ship

[onyx chasm]

Ah i see

Also where can I get core data?

[stark quiver]

hard mode

[ivory pawn]

You get a bit from clearing Hard Mode stages, along with the retrofit blueprint drops.

[onyx chasm]

Aight thx

[storm heron]

100% and 2x heavy multiplier

[humble solar]

I don't see BTD-1 on the tier list

[strong tartan]

For a reason

[stark quiver]

cuz its not good

[zenith heron]

Its a trap Dive Bomber that the Purple Helldiver is better than it...

[humble solar]

Wait what

Do I destroy it? I have like 9 of em

[stark quiver]

or just put them on random cvs you dont use

[zenith heron]

Just not use the BTD, it is really lacking on Stats and dmg, Gold isn't always better

[humble solar]

Just like on AA and guns

A lot of AA and main guns suck

[sweet delta]

Not AA, pretty much all gold AA are better than purple AA

[zenith heron]

There is a reason why its good to compare them based on stats than on first looks, don't worry you're not the only one who thought about this

[sharp echo]

What does oath give other than being a couple? Bonus stats?

[stark quiver]

12% more stats at 200 affinity

[zenith heron]

3% all stats

[whole crypt]

100 aff is 6%
100 aff oath is 9%
200 aff oath is 12%

it's not needed for most things, oathing for meta is a bottomless pit

[sharp echo]

Wait affinity also give stats?

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity

[vale spindle]

you can see the exact stat boost in game if you click on the heart icon of your ship in the ship menu

[zenith heron]

Just do this if you whale, but if F2p, just oath what you want

[forest palm]

a whooping +0.06x more stats for a whole grand total of 1.12x

[sharp echo]

I didn't see. When I click the heart it only show certificate thing

[vale spindle]

its in very small font on the certificate itself
at the bottom iirc

[stark quiver]

under bride name

[sharp echo]

[humble solar]

I'm surprised to not see Me-155 in the tier list too

It seems good with 3 13mm and 2 20mm

[viscid swift]

it does no surface damage

[humble solar]

Is it atleast decent in AA?

[viscid swift]

one, very rarely is it worth bringing a fighter that does no surface damage because it has good AA, and even if it was there are better fighters that fill that niche

[humble solar]

I see

I guess I'mma keep using the F6Fs

So common good ones are F6F, Barracuda, and Helldiver

[forest palm]

if you lack access to Research, and Gear Lab gear yea

[humble solar]

I hate opsi

[forest palm]

well, hate it all you want, but not doing it hurts you more than you could possibly imagine

[fiery raptor]

i love opsi. I adore having absurd amounts of bling as fuck gear. Makes campaign, events and opsi so easy.

I love having 10 wyverns
I love having 4 457s
I love having 6 100mm kai
I love having 3 mk7s
I love having 2 57mm bofors
I love having 3 drek guns

I fucking love opsi

[hollow gust]

Damn only 10?

[fiery raptor]

not that old, but i enjoy what i've earned so far

I only do opsi to 100 coords every day, and I'm getting more UR gear than I have purple plates to +10 them

[crystal flume]

i've been wondering what those cat looking girl for? the one we keep adopt from random box

[storm heron]

55 wyverns 55 457s 55 100mm 55 57mm 55 234mm 100 junkers 100 flapjaks 100 quad mags 100 bidders 100 134mm 55 mk7 55 95kai pure oxy. That's all 680 days of opsi

[viscid swift]

haveing that many wyverns is overateted TBH

[sharp socket]

why do i know that meme

[ivory pawn]

Meowficcers, you can equip them to your formations to give them some buffs.

[crystal flume]

ehm i don't see the option for it

[ivory pawn]

It's the Command Cat and Staff Cat in top right.

[storm heron]

click it

[fiery raptor]

first 7 wyverns were strictly for w15, the other 3 were made before mk7 into gear lab update. I did not like having to move them around between my campaign fleet and the opsi mob. 1 on painleve and 2 on klaudia

[crystal flume]

aaaaaaaaaaahhh... bruh i'm blind

[viscid swift]

7 for W15, 4 is what I usually run

20 extra aviation is not that important for the support fleet

[stark quiver]

i just dont use gear on half my ships cuz the game is ez

[crystal flume]

it legit blend so well.. thank you o/

[viscid swift]

especially compared to having more 57s

[storm heron]

is there some specific things I need to know about the event bonus stages

[fiery raptor]

w14 on superiority sucked so much ass (hellcats and barracudas only) that autism prepared for w15. the experience in w15 lethal was so much better

[sharp socket]

id take 3 wyverns and 4 UR AA than 7 wyverns

i do like the number 7 though so ill make 7x 457 in 2027

[forest palm]

7 Wyverns, 3 Spearfish, 3 MK7, 2 457, get 234, 100 kai, aand 57 as needed

UR Quint for style

[storm heron]

I personally only have 2 twin457, 4 wyverns, 1 spearfish, 1MK7, 1 234, 2 100kai, 2 twin57, and 1 quintmags

[wind hazel]

still have 0 spearfish

[fiery raptor]

oh so plan to upgrade all ca i intend to keep using to twipple is legit then.

I was bending over backwards to justify to myself making the one ur quint. Made the one for Unzen but I don't think I'll make another just yet

[frank pulsar]

ive 3 457, 3 wyvern, 1 spearfish, 1 mk7, 2 100 kai, 2 57, 1 234 and 1 quint

[wind hazel]

where do you guys use spearfish

[forest palm]

Triple 234 currently is the easiest attainable UR CA Gun, and it's normal ammo meaning it doesn't loss much damage across every armor type

[storm heron]

opsi trash mobs, so unicorn always have it

[frank pulsar]

i use it everywhere outside of w15

[viscid swift]

I have this much of x

[wind hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/896815593972441088.webp?size=56

cheeky and classic triple 457+13

[forest palm]

+12 Wyvern is just cursed

[eager mulch]

[wind hazel]

what about this

[forest palm]

unbalanced

[viscid swift]

that just means PvP try hard

[wind hazel]

[forest palm]

PvP doesn't exist

[viscid swift]

who is now crying at the lost plates because lol CVs in 2024 PvP meta

[storm heron]

[fiery raptor]

plates? i don't remember those being in merit store or plates on wyvern?

god i wish i could trade pvp points for purple plates

[viscid swift]

gold plates used on +13ing the wyverns

[stark quiver]

how do you have that much gold plates

[wind hazel]

just play the game

[forest palm]

I apparently have over like 14 rows of purely UR gear

[wind hazel]

tho i can't +13 a new la9 if i get one now

but nearly there

[humble solar]

Isn't Perseus and Unicorn in same mob fleet kind if overkill

[eager mulch]

overkill and at the same time underkill

[stark quiver]

should i make third 457 or wait to see if tenrai takes t3s, and make third tenrai

[humble solar]

Wdym

[forest palm]

would wait

[wind hazel]

why do you want a third 457 anyway

[barren tapir]

overkill healing underkill dmg

[eager mulch]

triple preloads is overkill, but running both usually sacrifices damage

ty cheeky

[humble solar]

Hmmm maybe I'll just go with Unicorn

[stark quiver]

tenrai waiting room it is

[humble solar]

I wonder if I should go for CV or BB. I have Unicorn and Saratoga in the fleet already, though I still have Monarch and Georgia

[eager mulch]

you should go for good ship

[humble solar]

Too poor to level someone else yet

[wind hazel]

1bb 2 cv is pretty standard

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

no amagi-chan smh

[forest jasper]

get the aug for hood

[forest palm]

Hood with Augment looks to be your best choice

[jolly spruce]

I have 2 of these but i cant see it on my depot?

[wind hazel]

it's blueprints

[mellow cape]

It's a blueprint

[jolly spruce]

Oh f

[mellow cape]

Gotta craft it, but you need more copies of the bp

[jolly spruce]

How much do i need to craft?

[wind hazel]

go into depot>craft and you'll see it. you need 15

[jolly spruce]

Alr2 thx

[storm heron]

[unborn owl]

anyone alr solve this puzzle?

[wind hazel]

does secretary affinity only increase when you're logged into the game?

[storm heron]

click the title 5 times

[wind hazel]

works offline too?

[storm heron]

no la, ofc works offline too

[wind hazel]

very pog

[jolly spruce]

What do this letters of the top left corner of dd, cv etc means?

[plain saffron]

you just reminded me to test that

[plain saffron]

M is 1st gun slot
2 is 2nd gun slot

[jolly spruce]

Like the m and s

[plain saffron]

Main, Secondary

[jolly spruce]

Ahh

[forest palm]

can you see that in the code? like a if true/false prompt

[plain saffron]

though it's not accurate
some CL can equip DD gun on Main slot

[jolly spruce]

[storm heron]

I used to be nonactive and only logged in twice a day, so the secretary affinity surely increase

[plain saffron]

it's server side so not that easy, but i can test

[storm heron]

also wait what the game can be played offline?

[stark quiver]

no?

[wind hazel]

Elden Ring

[unborn owl]

do i absolutely do nothing?

[forest palm]

not without going through some hoops that are very ToS

[vale spindle]

if you just care about the base rewards and not the score rewards yes

[plain saffron]

it's imposible to to play ofline wven with any cheat or something

[storm heron]

press back in the top left for faster, otherwise u just play the game

[vale spindle]

the score rewards aren't that relevant anyways

[plain saffron]

how can you play while not connected to game server at all

[forest palm]

just start, and exit the game it gives you credit you don't need to play at all

[plain saffron]

anyway so far my theory is it only increase when online

[storm heron]

no way, I doubt

[unborn owl]

does SP5 has oil cap?

[plain saffron]

bcs game increase the affinity every x min starting with your login time

[knotty sleet]

just memorize the arrow and
there is achievement 2000 score for every powerups

[full musk]

Are any of the event ships worth investing in? Lala’s skills seem rlly good and I’m looking to replace San Francisco

[jolly spruce]

To spam unicorn healing, do i have to upgrade her main wep?

Im kinda confusing it with RLD

Is the cd dependant on the wep lvl?

[eager mulch]

it is

higher weapon level = faster fire rate

[jolly spruce]

Which means the ability will be triggered aswell?

[eager mulch]

higher RLD = faster fire rate

[spring bolt]

you can't spam anyway
plane takeoff time will decrease as you enhance it, up to +10
carrier airstrike is complicated but enhancing planes is what you need to do anyway

[knotty sleet]

guys does every PR ship need dev 30 to increase fleet technology or something? or just invest who I gonna use?

[plain saffron]

you get faction tech points by Max Limit Break, for research ships, dev30 is the MLB

[vale spindle]

what do you mean "increase faction fleet"?

if you are asking whether every PR ships needs dev 30 to be good, then the answer is yes (*with some exceptions)

[plain saffron]

they also need MLB/dev30 to get the benefit of the fleet techs

[knotty sleet]

typo *fleet/faction technology

[eager mulch]

they also need MLB/dev30 to get max stars (stars are cool)

[spring bolt]

well if your goal is max fleet tech, yes you need to dev 30 all pr ships

[knotty sleet]

okiee in the end you need all the ships

[plain saffron]

for points not really all, you only get benefit until some milestone

same for fleet tech, some give less useful ones

[vale spindle]

its funny cause you can get tech points and the stats from lvl 120 without needing mlb, happened to me when i was using gascogne

[stark quiver]

do any faction tech give bb rld

[knotty sleet]

ehh? for real?

[plain saffron]

they're separate conditions so yes

[spring bolt]

just keep in mind fleet tech points and fleet tech bonuses are 2 different things, usually you just go for ships with good bonuses and the tech points are not that important

[vale spindle]

yes, the fleet tech stats and tech points the ship gives at lvl 120 are independent of limit break level

its just on most ships you can't get to lvl 120 without max limit break, and pr ships usually are bad before dev 30 (mlb) so it rarely comes up

[plain saffron]

but usually people hit MLB then lvl120 because they need MLB to go past lvl 100

[spring bolt]

nagami CN confirmed

[vale spindle]

lvl 100 in CN, lvl 70 in EN

[knotty sleet]

what about fate simulation?

[vale spindle]

thats irrelevant from a fleet tech perspective

its only useful from the "using them in your gameplay fleet" perspective

[spring bolt]

a way to use your excessive bps after dev30

[knotty sleet]

oh okey thanks

[plain saffron]

well you can go up to 90 without MLB

MLB to 100 and higher need awakening

so need MLB to go past 100

[spring bolt]

yeah yeah we get your point, comrade

[jolly spruce]

Which of the wep slot should i upgrade if i want to lessen the cd of her airstrike so she can heal more often?

[knotty sleet]

does Tempesta also contribute to fleet tech?

[sweet delta]

Tempest and meta do contribute tech

[fresh briar]

Btw is tallin useful or no

[sweet delta]

Expensive but not a big upgrade over Portland

[viscid swift]

her fighter and TB slot as well as enhancing what you put in those slots

[spring bolt]

enhance planes, but you might not want to waste plates on bad planes so changing planes is another option
also enhance ship rld stats in Enhance tab

[jolly spruce]

So both contributes to the cd of her airstrike and heal?

[viscid swift]

yes

[jolly spruce]

Yeah2, im just using that silver low tier mats for it

[knotty sleet]

oh yeahh haha thanks i miss this on bottom

[jolly spruce]

Wait, what does T1 and T3 means in a wep?

[warm pivot]

are there any builds out for the new collab ships yet??

[soft raft]

besides their Unique Augments, not really much different than other ships of their Hulltype

[spring bolt]

some gears has t1 to t3 indicator to suggest that this gear has higher/lower rarity version, with t1 being worst and t3 being best, there are also t0 means this one has no alternative

[jolly spruce]

Ohh

[soft raft]

It's basically flavour text

[jolly spruce]

So its like the intel i number

[knotty sleet]

for beginner i guess yes, until get like Agir , Guam, Anchorage

[jolly spruce]

Theres really is alot of concepts i dont know yet in the game fr

[storm heron]

was there a gold that can't be +13 or something

[sweet delta]

Any T2

[storm heron]

Like this one right?

Interesting how this gear even come in the first place

[spring bolt]

there are also weird stuff like t1 and t2 fire ext, both are white

[forest palm]

It being T2 isn't even the reason we don't recommend this thing, it's just plain worse than a Quad Magnetic btw

[warm pivot]

are there any ways to farm decor tokens?

[knotty sleet]

Is Mogador PVP or PVE unit? when to use her?

[stark quiver]

commisons are prob your best source

[jolly spruce]

Can we recycle leveled gears in this game?

Like getting some mats back

[warm pivot]

are there other ways?

[agile harness]

What is the name of the page?

[storm heron]

comission and weekly missions, therefore the decor tokens is very timegated

[warm pivot]

.... looks like I won't be able to buy every decor in collab

[storm heron]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[stark quiver]

prolly not for pvp, not too bad for meta fights, and most pve content

[viscid swift]

she doesn't have much use in PvP but she's pretty good in PvE

[heady siren]

Can I cancel the current ship and switch to another ship for development?

[stark quiver]

yes but there is a 24h cooldown

[knotty sleet]

ohh for mobbing or bossing?

[heady siren]

Means after cancelling the previous development, I have to wait for 24hrs in order to develop another ship?

[stark quiver]

yea, shes not bad, but when it really matters on what ships you use, there might be better options

[stark quiver]

dev ship, switch to dev another ship , have to wait 24h to switch again

[knotty sleet]

i still doesn't understand her role and if she is not good at torpedo, but she is T0 in slaimuda

[heady siren]

Means if i want to switch now, i can do so. And if I want to switch again, i need to wait for 24hrs?

[viscid swift]

she's your usual high damage vanguard, her notable things are proccing ALsace's damage debuff permanently and her stab having some niche roles in rooting the enemy in place like for Nagato META

[stark quiver]

she's a good anti light and medium damage dd ,
and pretty good for bosses,
for mobbing and bossing higher content, she probably wont find a place

[barren tapir]

isn't mogador a gunboat

[viscid swift]

and no, she is not a torpedo boat

we really need to distinguish between gunboats and hybrids better

[storm heron]

like defining the threshold?

[heady siren]

If I cancel the previous ship development, what will happened to the missions involving the process?

I have already submitted some of the missions for it, well almost all.

[storm heron]

the missions' progress are permanent

[bold cove]

I have 2k purple plates, but only 300 white plates for planes

[sweet delta]

but i read that she is a torp DD on reddit!!!

[heady siren]

Means will not be undone if I cancel it?

[viscid swift]

kind of

[knotty sleet]

her high damage came from the stab skill or her gun or her torpoedo? i tried she got some mvp

[amber frost]

Ok... so I just now received this specialty item, which item do I combine this with to atleast get a 75% recover rate for failing ship ? also I am using this mainly against meta show downs and mainly in siren boss fights.

[sweet delta]

stab and gun

[viscid swift]

yes

[slow fox]

SuchiPerson spotted

[knotty sleet]

i see

[viscid swift]

huh, so that's how you disguise yourself as a wiki guy

[knotty sleet]

okiee

[storm heron]

wdym by "cancel", your options are only switch or start researching. Anyways no progress will be harmed if you switch

[heady siren]

Okay. Got it.

[jolly spruce]

Worth changing? I can upgrade lvl 0 one

[storm heron]

not an increase worth spending more coins and plates

[eager mulch]

it’s over

[storm heron]

but yes right is better

[storm heron]

:smolmagistare:

[crisp raven]

im going to mention this on the sole basis that collabs are unlikely to rerun. there is a pack in the shop. it gives 500 dorm tokens for 500 gems and can be bought twice. this is one of, if not, the worst ways to spend gems. especially if youre free to play. use this info how you see fit. for any other event, it wouldnt be worth it. if you value the dorm set knowing it might never return, the packs MIGHT be a last ditch effort.

[full musk]

You reckon that Lala > SF then?

[viscid swift]

cat comfortable is probably gonna be in your most reliable sources truth be told

but really, this is why among other things you save up in advance, there's a reson why I always keep 2-3k dorm tokens stocked at any given point

especially when I know a collab is imminent

[eager mulch]

ty tho not even my family wished me happy birthday

[fallow sedge]

If I have 6 same faction ship and I use 2x rewards and auto farm how long would it take to get 2m exp for a pr

[sweet delta]

certainly, not even close

[viscid swift]

depends on where you farm and how often

if you're in W12 though and don't slack it should easily be done in under a week

[storm heron]

cat comfortable?

[viscid swift]

cat comfort

[storm heron]

lol I thought it's a new jargon or some english words, turns out it's the source of decor tokens

[bold cove]

Normally we will gain around 1k5 dorm tokens between event, right? It like i can buy new dorm set every events, missed one cuz it ugly

[viscid swift]

I haven't kept track

[humble solar]

Guys, how can I know who equips the Banner of Order? I tried looking at the wiki but see none, and when I try to put it on Shinano, it doesn't appear

[bold cove]

Does Agir is a good tank? I plan to dev her after fdg

[viscid swift]

yes

[humble solar]

Apparently yes but Anchorage is better

[bold cove]

I got Anchorage fs 2 atm

[viscid swift]

Yui from the collab

[viscid swift]

and where did you hear that

[humble solar]

Oh...

[humble solar]

Better as in easier to get and level

[viscid swift]

that's not strictly better

when you say better it implies better performance above all else

[bold cove]

So i already dev Izumo, Roon, Odin, Fdg, Anchorage and Prinz Rupert is on the way... Which one should i aim next to catch up end game contents?

[sweet delta]

aegir before rupprecht

[bold cove]

I try to finish new comer misson and doesnt have enough tech fleet for Plymouth, okay i will dev agir after finish combat data for Rupprecht

[humble solar]

Goddamn it. Out of all 5 TLR girls, I kept getting Lala

[silent otter]

Was anyone able to solve the last circuit puzzle? For the life of me, the first ones were really easy, bu somehow the last day puzzle was impossible. I know you can auto solve it by spamming the Help Me Lala icon, but still intrigued how it was actually solved. Any pics?

[humble solar]

3 Lalas and not a single any other girl 💀

[humble solar]

Tap the Help Me Miss Lala 5x

[silent otter]

Did you read what I said?

[humble solar]

Not the later half

[knotty sleet]

I manage ss before it skipped, The green one become other color lol

[silent otter]

I just wanted to see the line lol

[knotty sleet]

dunno that gameshark exist before

[silent otter]

So convulted. I hate it how the first ones all made sense, but last puzzle it just didn't.

[knotty sleet]

you can see my pic just put the diagonal red and green first, yellow on bottom right, or you means the 2nd puzzle?

[silent otter]

I guess it would be difficult to have a pic of the lines, since it would go away once solved haha, so nvm

[viscid swift]

yeah that works

not terribly difficult

[knotty sleet]

oh the cable one,, the first one is harder,, the connecting cable is easier actually

[crisp raven]

You were actually able to stop drawing part way. So I stopped before the last connector.

[silent otter]

Are you sure the rightmost cube was the last one? For my lost, I thought it was the cube where the arrow was pointing to instead lol
That would explain why I never solved it.

[crisp raven]

i read the 2 arrows as enter the cube here and exit the cube here, for the starting and ending points. like entering and exiting a maze puzzle.

[novel condor]

W15 fleet help

[knotty sleet]

yea only one solution

[silent otter]

I solved the other puzzles easily enough, but I guess I just got confused on the last puzzle with the rule.

[crisp raven]

that's fair. the last puzzle was def a slight step up in difficulty than the previous 6.

[amber frost]

could you help me solve this please ?

[viscid swift]

tap help me miss lala 5 or so times

[knotty sleet]

this one pretty simple

[knotty sleet]

the left top logo?

[viscid swift]

yep, auto solves the puzzle

[amber frost]

I'll give it a run soon, my ships are busy crucifying level 90's enemies. thanks.

[knotty sleet]

np just try use the click miss lala 5x for the remaining, i already pass all the game so cannot try that method

[amber frost]

I'll try that but

[gusty olive]

In a fleet with QETA, RodneyM, Nageta, Ancho, Halford, and KirovM...

any recommended vanguard units? (that isnt Plymouth, Helena, Laffii cus Im already using em)

[tawdry topaz]

Unzen? Aegir? Harbin?

[gusty olive]

I dont have Aegir and Harbing...

as for Unzen... I think she makes Nageta's barrage rng

[tawdry topaz]

HelenaM?

[gusty olive]

dont have her

[tawdry topaz]

eldridge retro?

[gusty olive]

On CV fleet but im planning to move her anyways since im returning Sirius there

[tawdry topaz]

so, no spare UR?

[stark quiver]

for what armor

[gusty olive]

Med to Heavy, since the BB's are quipped with Georgia guns

They are part of an OpSi fleet

[stark quiver]

i mean hinden

[vale spindle]

click the title 5 or so times until it solves it for you

[tawdry topaz]

honestly just go to slaimuda and throw in whatever good CL/DD in the tier list, you probably dont have much

given the current Harbiter I'ld yeet Magato for a torp vanguard

[gusty olive]

I gave up on that damn arbiter lmaooo. Can only bring her down to 6x

[amber frost]

I did that

[tawdry topaz]

just dont auto, I failed first try too, 5% left

had to change gears properly

[gusty olive]

I dont auto on hard content

[hollow gust]

Could just fix your fleets too

[gusty olive]

2 proc of sg radar, the one with UR BB's can bring her down to 50~60x

The one with META BB's to 45x

The CV's to 20~25x

The mob fleet cant handle it and the lowest it could is 6x

[hollow gust]

That doesn't mean much , also you have to take consideration for the shield

[gusty olive]

The shield is annoying yeah.

[stark quiver]

i used 4 fleet for harby

[spark ridge]

i wish i had 4 fleets worth of built ships lmao

[gusty olive]

If I got lucky and my Helena is still alive, I might dealt more with my UR BB fleet

heres fleet 2 to 4 ig?

[hollow gust]

2 well built fleets > 4 meh ones

Swap Laffey for an actual tank , and sync your CVs correctly or manual

[gusty olive]

I play manual

Though, my helena is on the BB kekw

[tawdry topaz]

we started playing at the same time

[keen sable]

Where else would she be?

[spring bolt]

that's laffey 2, not og laffey so she's fine there
the issue is why all vanguards are kept at 120?

[gusty olive]

can be CV I think

[barren tapir]

maybe lack of cog array

[gusty olive]

I have some... just dont know who to prio and mostly use it on a whim

[zinc cave]

fair

the ECTL can help you give you an idea of what's strong to cog awaken

it's not a universal guideline, i will stress

[tawdry topaz]

just awaken the URs first and think later

[barren tapir]

awaken UR, good supports, and waifu, ezpz

[zinc cave]

yeah most URs will get you results

[gusty olive]

I have yet to MLB Shimakaze and Mogadog kekw

[barren tapir]

tbh its just as simple as "you use this ship in endgame content? probably safe"

[viscid swift]

Instructions unclear, awakening Warspite to 125

[gusty olive]

God fuck

[barren tapir]

warspite waifu it's ok

[spring bolt]

well first is stop giving arrays to mid core ships like qe meta, and since you mentioned it, get helena to lv125
all vanguards in the sc except kirov meta are worth the array

[gusty olive]

Man... I wish they treated Warspite better...

[zinc cave]

That's what you get for being first

[keen sable]

Seeing as how one of those fleets does more than the other 3 combined I wonder which is important

[gusty olive]

The number one is still pretty much relevant

And even got an augment

[barren tapir]

[zinc cave]

oh true

[quartz jungle]

already done

[barren tapir]

sandy literally number 1

[gusty olive]

Idk what else to place on fleet 4 kekw

[zinc cave]

make a thread and post screens of ur dockyard

[gusty olive]

Hold on

[eternal moth]

/crossfleet

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[barren tapir]

or another big dmg fleet if needed

[keen sable]

puts in marco, casa does even worse

[gusty olive]

I just slapped META ships there cus yes... But a nice vanguard would be nice ig?

[keen sable]

Rainbows are nice indeed

[stark quiver]

do supporting wings stack

[viscid swift]

No

[stark quiver]

fuck

[zinc cave]

[stark quiver]

unfortunate indeed

[barren tapir]

supporting wing i guess

[gusty olive]

Wanna guess what's my mob fleet?

[vale spindle]

na just post it

[gusty olive]

QE, Uni, FormiMu, Drek, Dido, Jervis

[barren tapir]

hms

no neptune = L fleet

[atomic abyss]

no scylla either

[eternal moth]

Or Vanguard

[gusty olive]

Hey, I was in between replacing Drek with Nep

Also, I'm still leveling Vanguard... sooooooo

Soon™

[barren tapir]

i mean, drek is fine, i just like nep more

[viscid swift]

What is the point of Jervis in that fleet even

[stark quiver]

cursed to the ground

[barren tapir]

drek should still do more dmg ofc, nep would be tankier tho

[zinc cave]

being cute

[barren tapir]

i mean it looks like waifu fleet tbh. cos even if hms fleet, there's better option

how good is dido with her augment anyway? heard her barrage is nice?

[gusty olive]

Idk... Jervis was there cus I can't find other option (fleet was made before Nep Augment)

[viscid swift]

Neptune even without her augment would have been better

Jervis not tanking brings nothing of value

[barren tapir]

jervis 114 nopetune ~82

also wtf nopetune was less tanky than phoenix she really needed that aug

[viscid swift]

That's only if she main tanks

[obsidian ivy]

The next gear lab update is in late January yes?

[viscid swift]

Most likely yes

[atomic abyss]

high luck does that

[barren tapir]

oh i forgot about jervis positioning requirement

[zinc cave]

AoA damage goes way up but she's still just Dido

[barren tapir]

what an embarrassment of a ship until few weeks ago

[barren tapir]

i mean, dido isn't...bad right? just mid

[gusty olive]

Rare times augments actually gave HMS justice

[viscid swift]

You say that as to imply augments are consistently good for other factions....

[barren tapir]

most augments dont do enough

[storm heron]

sup mogs

[plain saffron]

augments is a mistake

[zinc cave]

well her AA can be easily outclassed and her niche is buffing Dido-class & QE/QE META so uhh... she's cute and HMS ig

definitely not unusable though, just competing for the slot

[viscid swift]

Doesn't even give good tech

[barren tapir]

she can buff scylla who is good or something

[storm heron]

I think mid is bad, bad is trash, good is mid, and amazing is good

[gusty olive]

I dont have Scylla (implac rerun when)

[barren tapir]

and her aoa is good or something

[zinc cave]

just use scylla by herself at that point

[spring bolt]

dido dps with aug and 2 hms is like sandy kai with no aug, her AA is not bad but outclassed by her own muse version

[barren tapir]

i mean it's okay right

[barren tapir]

so, usable but not great?

[storm heron]

but but barrage pattern

[eternal moth]

You really need to provide context when linking things like that

[barren tapir]

sometimes i feel this channel only has 2 modes: great and garbage

[spring bolt]

if you really want to use her, i guess so

[barren tapir]

idk what it is, i dont have her lol

[zinc cave]

depends on your approach to the game, if you want best results, there's going to be clear winners

just how it works

[barren tapir]

sure, but it also makes it difficult to get info on all the ships that are not great but not obviously shit

besides the person we're talking about is doing hms fleet, so i think we can chuck 'best results' out the window a bit

[viscid swift]

Well

There's still good and bad RN fleets

[gusty olive]

DOCK PICS!!!

[zinc cave]

Dock pics

[barren tapir]

tbh idk what makes scylla good

[storm heron]

barrages and decent AA

[zinc cave]

amazing AA

[pale wing]

Ahhh, shii

[barren tapir]

but is she a clear winner

[pale wing]

Should i research Roon ooorr

[barren tapir]

useful for kms tech point

[pale wing]

But i already research someone

[wind hazel]

just finish louis

then do roon if you want fdg

[storm heron]

do people equip scylla with blue gun and purple torp

[reef flume]

Yeah for fdg tech

[pale wing]

Fdg?

[vale spindle]

I do but that was before the gear lab fast gold gun came out

[pale wing]

Wait, Fredrich....

[barren tapir]

according to ectl, yes to purple torp

[pale wing]

Fredrich De Große?

[gusty olive]

Theres my dock ig?

[reef flume]

Ye

[storm heron]

cooper spotted

[jaunty vault]

Friedrich ☝️

[eager mulch]

gn cooper (you missed my birthday)

[barren tapir]

you want at least 1 pr1 for the newbie missions, which one isnt super important, roon is nice for tech but you can get the tech in other ways too and might be lacking another tech

[jaunty vault]

gn baby

happy belated birthday

[spring bolt]

fast guns aren't best option but not bad, twin 100 kai would be most ideal
as for torps, you want it to sync with carriers if possible as the rdps from the skill will be more valuable

[vale spindle]

shes one of those ships where the difference between fast gun and hybrid gun is small enough that i run the hybrid guns on ships that need them more and leave the fast gun on scylla

[gusty olive]

Soo... I replace Jervis with Nep then put Nep in front then Drek in back?

[eternal moth]

Or you take an actually decent fleet and stop with the full HMS setup

[gusty olive]

took a while before one appeared

[quartz jungle]

Was 76mm or Twin 100 mm kai BiS on Scylla before gold fast gun came out?

[frank pulsar]

idr the consensus, i personally use 76

[dense delta]

i have aquestion

how do i reset a ship lv

[stark quiver]

You can’t

[dense delta]

i lv up a bui but i cant seem to use it to limit break

[opaque gate]

should amagi and shinano always be together?

[wind hazel]

check your filter

[stark quiver]

No
Don’t always have to

[dense delta]

my filter?

[wind hazel]

the said filter

[barren tapir]

just check to show lvl2+

[opaque gate]

oki, but most of the time yes?

[wind hazel]

yes when paired they work better

[dense delta]

ah thank you very much

[opaque gate]

what to keep in mind for W14?

[atomic abyss]

suicide boats, BBs and subs for 14-3/4

[dense delta]

is there any upcoming banner i should look out for im a return player

[atomic abyss]

save for the next UR banner

[zinc cave]

we have 1 more UR event before the end of the year

[opaque gate]

okok, so BB will be generallycbetter than cv in w14

[frank pulsar]

theres a ur banner expected arnd dec, save for that
just do your one daily light pull until then

[atomic abyss]

1 BB 2 CV for both

you still need to get your ACV

[dense delta]

ok noted

[zinc cave]

planes are still an issue, you want 1 bb to kill the adds

[opaque gate]

ok thanks

[frank pulsar]

no, ender is warning you about enemy bb boats
they can low your backline in a single hit if youre unlucky
stick to standard 1 bb and 2 cv setup

[barren tapir]

you do want air supremacy for the buffs

and you cant entirely ignore planes since they reveal your backline to the evil bb/vs

[frank pulsar]

plane is literally not an issue at all, even using full 134 is fine

[barren tapir]

more like bringing cvs is what makes planes not an issue.

[void garnet]

any of these collab aux good?

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[unkempt mortar]

be real
is my 2nd fleet ass

[frank pulsar]

kinda...?

[quartz jungle]

2 non-mlb ships so yes

[sweet delta]

More than 2

[quartz jungle]

Can't see NJ/Musashi because Brest's rigging is too big

[void garnet]

how do you get that cat face

[sweet delta]

Musashi is not mlb

[frank pulsar]

like, ignoring the levels and lack of lb, the comp itself is

[unkempt mortar]

musashi IS mlb

[sweet delta]

Little academy event earlier this year

[quartz jungle]

How can you tell

[unkempt mortar]

ok how abt my main fleet

[sweet delta]

Mb off by a few pixels

[quartz jungle]

Shinano needs another IJN ship

[sweet delta]

What are these fleets even for, they lack focus

Besides focus on rainbow

[unkempt mortar]

y e s .

[gusty olive]

Aren't the eye aux not a barrage? or it actually does hit shit?

[sweet delta]

It can but fails to hit shit #gameplay-help message

[quartz jungle]

It is a barrage, but small damage I believe

[unkempt mortar]

it does the job so im fine with it for now (main fleet)

[reef flume]

Guys I Just got my first wyvern. Now, do I go for second wyvern, second mk7 or first 100mm kai?

[gusty olive]

lmaooo

[sinful escarp]

does laffey2 have good AA?

[storm heron]

yes

she's like top 10 or sumthing

[sinful escarp]

nice, thanks

[pale wing]

Imma save some for Fdg or Agir

[blazing maple]

Should I put Triple 406 mm mk 7 or Prototype 457 mm mk A gun mount on Ulrich von Hutten?

I already have Bismarck Zwei with 460 mm cannon

in the same fleet

[reef flume]

457mm since it is AP but you won't sync

[blazing maple]

that is to be expected. and thanks

[reef flume]

Np

[inner delta]

why do you have 460 on biz

[blazing maple]

uhh
OpSi
I run with NJ with her cannon, Musashi with 460 mm and Bismarck Zwei with 460 mm

[storm heron]

even if UvH uses the 406, she will helena-sync half of the time

[blazing maple]

what is helena-sync?
I don't go here often

[reef flume]

Radar scan

But it is rng

[blazing maple]

Oh, I see

[karmic spire]

oke i got commemorative event medal. That's it?

[storm heron]

also you might want to half-sync uvh with bz for the blackhole

[karmic spire]

it's not gear or something?

[barren tapir]

i hate helena

[storm heron]

it's a medal

[reef flume]

Its not necessary to use tbh

[karmic spire]

uh huh, where do i find it, in depot or ?

[blazing maple]

alright, thanks

[storm heron]

good question

It's in the furniture

[blazing maple]

For that, I don't know. I don't know how to proc.

[storm heron]

you time their guns so they fire at about the same time

[karmic spire]

all that 60x battles and wastes of oil just for a furniture..

[storm heron]

60x battles?

[storm heron]

wait that sentence sounds familiar

[reef flume]

Btw if Musashi is oathed and have fct+autoloader (same setup for bz but she have faster reload) you'll likely be able to get the 460 gun in time for Helena scans, not sync but get them in time (first volley syncs). But again Helena is not necessary

[blazing maple]

Yeah. that means I can do is to swap Vanguard's 457 mm with Zwei's 460 mm and pair up with Ulrich that will soon have 457 mm (I need 2 more of that UR blueprints for the gear lab)

[blazing maple]

I have Musashi, and she is oathed. she has that Admiralty FCS and Super Heavy shell

[storm heron]

or you can use some other guns like three prototype 406mm mle and sync (for medium/heavy enemies)
or you can use some other guns like three triple 406mm mk6 and sync (for light enemies)

[sharp socket]

460 and 457 are both really hard to sync with stuff

well 457 less so than 460

[blazing maple]

uhh, what's mle?

[blazing maple]

Oh that one. I think I have that on Alsace (I am trying to gather a fleet for the French)
Ahem, most of them are like lvl 70)

[sharp socket]

its a good bb gun against med/heavy enemies

[blazing maple]

and is the autoloader necessary for Musashi?
I mean, she has the Super Heavy Shell

[storm heron]

depend on the case, it should be less of your worries compared to the gun choice

[blazing maple]

Nah, I'm keeping that Super Heavy Shell

but thanks

also, I just remembered

my Bismarck Zwei is already proc right before Musashi for OpSi. Like She fired a second before Musashi

[storm heron]

musashi should use the triple 410 mm in place of the triple 406mm

[blazing maple]

I think It better stay it that way.
I uhh, ran out of purple upgrade parts and so too gold upgrade parts

[storm heron]

wait what how do you run out of the gold upgrade parts, what do you even use it on

[blazing maple]

I ran out of gold gun upgrat parts*

[storm heron]

you mean gold gun design?

yea what did you use it on

[blazing maple]

you mean this old? I ran out of the gold

[blazing maple]

Musashi

[storm heron]

they are very scarce, you should not use them mindlessly

don't +13 bad gun

[blazing maple]

never knew how scarce they are before. because I didn't
what

13+ upgrade bad?

[storm heron]

when you use on bad guns yes it is bad, since +13 strong guns more powerful than +13 bad guns

[blazing maple]

oh nah, I spend it all usually on UR ship with the weapons based on the community tier list suggested

[storm heron]

UR ship?

community tier list you mean ectl?

umm

[blazing maple]

UR shipgals.
but most of them are just spent it on Musashi

[blazing maple]

I just put Musashi 460 because I felt like it before.

like a year ago and never bother to change

but the rest UR shipgirls, I do follow the list. or so I think
I think is due to umm. a few reasons I think?

[storm heron]

idk which tierlist reccomends the 460mm +13

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[storm heron]

this should be ur priority from now on

[zinc cave]

+13 460mm

[strange sphinx]

what is momo class again? CL or CA?

[blazing maple]

Alright, thanks

and how do you use this Z23 bot?

[barren tapir]

none, too niche

[zinc cave]

CL

[jaunty vault]

use / commands
do /tags in bot spam for list of commands

[blazing maple]

thank you so much

[reef flume]

If you give her an autoloader aswell (instead of the shell) she will do 3 rotations

[blazing maple]

wdym by 3 rotations? I don't get it. sorry

[reef flume]

That she fires 3 times (with her UR gun)

[blazing maple]

I see. thanks

[strange sphinx]

how about the purple Kai?

[storm heron]

I think before that you need to understand damage curve and battle length

[reef flume]

Yw

[blazing maple]

This sounds like there's an essay for this

[storm heron]

purple kai when you are fighting mobs only

[reef flume]

If it is Meta or arb she does three rotations

Otherwise less

[storm heron]

I mean how else they came up with something super specific like that autoloader

[barren tapir]

autoloader when it's an actual decent equip depending on situation

[blazing maple]

aight, make sense

[strange sphinx]

ai mean how many rotation it will get with thw Admiral table and Auto loader

[barren tapir]

doesnt 457 get 4 rotation

[reef flume]

At least 4

[storm heron]

pretty sure doesn't matter, 460mm still more damage overall iirc (in that niche)

[reef flume]

Yeah but (in Musashi specific case) you loose 43% damage

[barren tapir]

oh yeah i think you use triple 410

[reef flume]

I use 460 actually

[reef flume]

But you are free to use whatever gun you prefer

[storm heron]

renhex said 460 3x better than 410 3.5 times

[barren tapir]

if it works it works, idk when it is optimal vs not

kinda wonder if that gun has use on anyone else. i don't have musashi

[blazing maple]

I mean, this man has the '460 mm enjoyer' on his nickname

[reef flume]

Even better than 410 4x, both med and heavy and yes I tested it

(except few rare cases where 410 outdamaged but even there the difference was small)

[barren tapir]

does ruppy want barrage gun or shelling gun

[tame jungle]

Either is fine

[barren tapir]

her barrage kinda shit after nagato meta ngl

[plain saffron]

shelling

[storm heron]

what p-value?

[plain saffron]

unless mobbing i guess, but not bcs of the barrage, but bcs mob

[barren tapir]

[reef flume]

P-value?

[storm heron]

nvm me I don't even know how u tested it, I'll just buy it

[storm heron]

do both with the twin 457

[reef flume]

I went in meta fights (med and heavy) without helena and tested who does more damages

I was doing raw damage tests

Maybe I should remove Vanguard and Alsace too to get pure raw damage

[storm heron]

do you do it like 5 times?

[reef flume]

Not always, but usually yeah

[tame jungle]

Isn’t a big advantage of using izumo gun being able to sync with helena

[barren tapir]

would if i had

[tame jungle]

So of course 460 is gonna perform better than izumo gun

At least on damage potential

[reef flume]

I got Izumo gun loosing even with Helena🙂

[tame jungle]

I’d like to see the testing then

[reef flume]

With or without Helena?

[tame jungle]

Yes

[reef flume]

Btw, the reason I do not use Helena when I was doing my damage tests is to avoid that her rng scan gives a result different than it would actually be

[tame jungle]

It’s still a factor for izumo gun performance

[storm heron]

variance yes

[tame jungle]

In a real situation you will have access to helena

[reef flume]

I'm going to try a test with both guns and Helena now

[jaunty blaze]

Where do you watch guides? Where on your screenshot

[storm heron]

that is ectl azur lane tier list

[jaunty blaze]

Okay thank you

[storm heron]

but I don't watch guides anymore, I just ask here

[barren tapir]

helena was a mistake

nah you are cool

[jaunty blaze]

I m too i dont know

[storm heron]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[barren tapir]

peak helena is resetting CM for 4 hours straight until she rolls her skill in the timeslots you need her to AND your bb doesn't miss like a blind bat

[storm heron]

nah in that case helena's radar scan will be closer to the expected buff value

[barren tapir]

nah it's not because there's optimal time slots that gave more dmg for me since sara couldnt be synced

[storm heron]

at that amount of runs ranger might do more damage

[barren tapir]

not on a light armor boss

well also my ranger was like 100

[humble solar]

Guys, what happens if I buy design on BP shop? Will I be able to craft it, or would I outright get it? Or is it just a piece?

[storm heron]

wait what how can my guild able to start an operation

[tame jungle]

It’s a crafting gear

[storm heron]

is my guild shit or the reset time is just weird

[tame jungle]

You can buy prints and once you have enough prints you’ll be able to craft the weapon

(Assuming you mean protocore)

[heady siren]

What does the BP exchange in the shipyard do?

[tame jungle]

You can exchange general blueprints for ship specific blueprints

[barren tapir]

you can do that in depot as well ^

[tame jungle]

That’s not what he was asking though

[inland shoal]

You can always start an operation once the one before has finished, dunno what you mean

[barren tapir]

ik im just adding info

[heady siren]

those blueprints are used for something similar to limit breaking or?

[atomic abyss]

Yes, and enhancing

[barren tapir]

wasn't it limited to 2 per month

[inland shoal]

Kinda limit breaking and enhancing in one

[quartz jungle]

Yes

[inland shoal]

That is participation per guild member

[barren tapir]

Oooh

[quartz jungle]

People can join only 2 a month

[inland shoal]

Operations are technically unlimited

[storm heron]

one has finished about a week ago I forgot, it was empty

[quartz jungle]

Yeah what Thorin said

[storm heron]

Ohhh

[barren tapir]

the more you know

[storm heron]

So my guild timing is just weird, I see how this could happen

[inland shoal]

So yeah I'd be more worried if you weren't able to start an operation now lol

[storm heron]

maybe because I joined a new guild since the old one was inactive

giulio cesare meta is a new ship?

[barren tapir]

next cruise meta

[desert trellis]

how do i beat chapter 13, i cant even clear ch13-1

[storm heron]

what do you use

[jaunty blaze]

i have question italy ship Roma good?

[reef flume]

Triple carriers in mob

[storm heron]

one level below good nowadays, you most likely have someone better

[desert trellis]

hm, ok

[desert trellis]

a bit too absurd innit

[jaunty blaze]

What do you have in Massachusetts gear? I'm just curious, I have one too.

gun i mean

[humble solar]

Is the twin 127 really that bad? I see that it's not even in the tier list despite the purple twin 120 being there

[reef flume]

Boss you go two carries one battleship or triple carriers (when it comes to main fleet)

[opaque gate]

is roomba worth it to +13?

[reef flume]

For vanguards you will want at least one aa carry for both fleets

[humble solar]

Is the AA stat even worth it?

[tame jungle]

you'd probably rather have sextuple bofors over roomba +13

[opaque gate]

ok thanks

[storm heron]

You have to reach air superiority or air supremacy by using more carriers, the general lineup is 1 bb and 2 carriers. Also fancy is a dead weight there, and you need alternatie for portland and laffey retrofit

[flint knot]

Should I be saving wisdom cubes or just dumping em on event banners us ait when u just start?

[storm heron]

if you care for power, save by doing 1 light pull a day

[humble solar]

Save them for now since UR is coming

[storm heron]

so that you can go bananas when UR came

[flint knot]

Alright

[inland shoal]

No

[humble solar]

If my ship has low reload stat, should I prioritize equipping fast firing guns?

[inland shoal]

No

Fast firing guns are for ships that do little gun damage and somehow benefit from fast guns, be it specific skill procs or just a good barrage

[desert trellis]

ahhh thx

[storm heron]

you can make a thread and post your dock if you want a more specific solution

[desert trellis]

mk6 16inch us triple turrent

[desert trellis]

ic ima do it later thxx

[queen jackal]

what does high caliber mean for agirs skill

[inland shoal]

Basically means CB gun

[reef flume]

280mm or above

[queen jackal]

tyty

[sharp socket]

does c3 drop gold plates

i spent 1k AP and didnt get a single gold plate..

[unique lantern]

whoever told me a cv boss fleet would be great even without ur planes i hope you are happy with tricking me

[sharp socket]

well if the enemy is light and you have TBs on your CVs then yes they wont do that much

[crimson glacier]

UR planes are not even close to important

[unique lantern]

back to bb greatness
also i have no idea how to check enemy armor in opsi

[sharp socket]

just turn off fleet lock

[crimson glacier]

and there isnt like any CV buffers on that fleet

[unique lantern]

cv buffers?

[crimson glacier]

stuff like sirius or kazagumo

[unique lantern]

well, i dont have either, i think i can get a sirius in medal shop this month

this is just what was recommended to me based on my dock

[crimson glacier]

doesnt have to be kazagumo, anyone with air raid will do

[unique lantern]

i also have no idea what air raid is

[crimson glacier]

its a skill

[reef flume]

CV buff

[gilded shale]

Should I use cubes for research?

[unique lantern]

ye i can get sirius, any other ships that give that buff which can be somewhat deterministically acquired?

[crimson glacier]

ariake is on guild shop i believe

[unique lantern]

ty

[crimson glacier]

i wouldnt use cubes unless im at like 1k+

[gilded shale]

So use till around 1k and save again?

And how do I get some coins really fast?

[atomic abyss]

farm w12

[crimson glacier]

i dont think theres any single number that ppl have decided is good to stay at

im just not comfortable with using cubes below 1k

[icy cave]

the more cubes, the better

[crimson glacier]

basically it doesnt really matter, just stay at level where you are comfortable at

and i wouldnt do any gold rarity cube researches

[icy cave]

i would personally save about 1.2k before i start using on research , 3 banner pities worth

[gilded shale]

Should I farm w12 while the event is still around?

[coarse heron]

if you're done with the event yeah it's fine

[gilded shale]

Soo clear the event shop?

[coarse heron]

that's up to you

We recommend 55k as a minimum

[whole crypt]

55k for gold plates or something
personally I'm a 70k person for rainbow books

but as much as you think is useful/valuable from shop as well

[zinc cave]

the tech boxes call to me

[gilded shale]

So if I accidentally went for 88k I could totally switch to w12 right? If so which one will give me more coins? 12-1 or 12-4?

[zinc cave]

you can totally switch

[whole crypt]

they're basically rubbish but sure you do you

[inland shoal]

12-4 is more coins

[zinc cave]

12-4 will give you more coins but slightly harder to clear than 12-1 obv

[storm heron]

me with books

[unique lantern]

uhhh assuming i wanna pull kazagumo without an event, just how bad are the odds of me getting her ?

[bold stream]

Is ariake better than yuugure? They are both on the guildshop

[crimson glacier]

i doubt it really matters

i see ariake as better but idk

[zinc cave]

Yuugure has a slightly better niche if CV main fleet needs to tank damage for whatever reason

but yeah not much of a difference between them

ariake very slightly tankier ig and both are pretty fragile

[zinc cave]

terrible, its 7% for an SSR, then a 1/25ish for Kazugumo

[wary hawk]

But if you aren't pulling its 0% chance and those are not good odds

[zinc cave]

forbidden knowledge

[unique lantern]

but also...uhhh i wouldnt be looking forward to farming coins for weeks so ill pass

[humble solar]

Are Emdem and Z46 good

[atomic abyss]

emden is a top 10-20 CL , and has a niche as an IB buffer
z46 is a good DD with her augment

[humble solar]

Yay I can still use rhem

[paper mural]

What gear should I give Hiei META? For Op-Si and 12-4 farming

[humble solar]

Damn I'm running out of equipment and coins to make said equipments

[zinc cave]

Doesn't have any special requirements

[paper mural]

Ok, so then, what do I give her by default?

[humble solar]

What stages can I grind coins at

[zinc cave]

There's a pool of decent BB guns you can pick from. What's more important for mobbing is uptime and staggering your salvos so you avoid overkilling

[paper mural]

What about that purple HE gun with 3 barrels then? I can't remember the name

[zinc cave]

Any campaign stage from world 9 onwards, but the usual suspects are 12-1 & 12-4, 13-1 & 13-4 for cog chip gain.

[humble solar]

How about for chap 9 itself?

[paper mural]

And actually, makes sense, all that's really up for debate is the main gun. Otherwise, the secondary gun would be Nep gun, AA would be STAAG, auxiliaries would be FCR and one of the shells

[zinc cave]

ill just send you this https://i.imgur.com/apSsyVN.jpeg

[zinc cave]

I mean, what can you clear comfortably with the fleet that you're using

[humble solar]

I can go up fo 11 i think. Anything below level 120

[paper mural]

406mm MK6 is the gun I was thinking of earlier. I guess I'll just give her that then

[zinc cave]

Chapter 10 & 11 w/ their kamikaze spawns will need a main fleet (i.e. BBs) and/or vanguard that can deal with them
Chapter 12 & 13 w/ their planes will need a fleet with good interception/aa coverage

Chapter 10 has an enemy level range of 95 to 102.
10-3 drops T3 Repair Toolkit bps.
10-3 also can drop St Louis (also in Light construction)
10-4 boss has the drop-only Jintsuu.

Chapter 11 has an enemy level range of 103 to 107.
11-3 drops T3 Quad Bofors bps.
11-3 also has the drop-only Sendai.
11-4 boss has the drop-only Columbia

Chapter 12 has an enemy level range of 107 to 114.
12-2 can drop Hiyou (+1 CV RLD Tech)
12-3 can drop Junyou (+1 CV RLD Tech)
12-4 boss has the drop-only Choukai.

[humble solar]

Oh holy thanks

[zinc cave]

Just a list of stuff that you can also get while farming coins, obv up to you

[humble solar]

I'm currently rushing 9 rn, going 10 soon

[zinc cave]

Ah should've mentioned that then, sec

[zinc cave]

Chapter 9 has an enemy level range of 88 to 95. No zone gimmick.
9-2 has the drop-only Jenkins & Radford.
9-3 boss has the drop-only Nicholas.
9-4 boss has the drop-only Niizuki.

[humble solar]

Yeah, they had been great in helping me enhance DDs and CLs

[zinc cave]

You're using blue ships to enhance?

[humble solar]

I mean, I already have a copy locked, and I have lots of medals too

[zinc cave]

I mean true, but you'd probably want to try build up medals as a newer player

[tame jungle]

i doubt you have enough medals ngl

[sinful escarp]

you can never have enough medals

[humble solar]

Usually though I just dismantle them since it's the fastest way to clear storage

[zinc cave]

[humble solar]

200 gems for like 10 additional slots makes me cry

[zinc cave]

remember to buy dorm slot 3, and then 2nd floor dorm with your free gem income

[paper mural]

If you're into live collection, then the 200 gems tax is a thing at some point down the line

Some people choose to bring average or weaker ships to level 120 and then retire them

[tulip thorn]

Best team for this months challenge mode?

[ebon storm]

is purple helldiver still better than all dive bombers except UR?

[hollow sail]

gold helldiver technically infinetesimally better but you wouldn't build one

[forest palm]

it's not even worth mentioning

[hollow sail]

it was out of the picture before, it is even more out of the picture in the near future when tenrai hits gear lab

[forest palm]

it died a week after it released the fact that you need to invest gold plates to actually get a sizable difference is just poor value on top of the gear lab mats, so its' really not worth mentioning

[tame jungle]

It’s technically better, but impractical to upgrade

[ebon storm]

by gold helldiver yo umean the XSB3C?

ah so i guess its only good slightly at 13+

[zinc cave]

yep

[tame jungle]

Just keep on using the purple helldiver and replace with tenrai whenever you get those

[zinc cave]

its in a poor spot that poor dive bomber

[hollow sail]

a +10 tenrai beats a +13 golddiver and there isn't that much competition for large amounts of gear that requre UR ordnance, so making a tenrai or two isn't going to be a big deal. it's completely dead

[noble osprey]

Hey guys, how do you get your oil to last? I finish my oil everyday and barely have enough

[zinc cave]

where are you using it

[noble osprey]

Progressing in story and hard mode, gotta defeat 40 escort fleets for every stage, that really finishes all my oil

[crystal flume]

should i save for bulin? or i can take san diego retrofit item first?

[zinc cave]

im going to assume you're relatively new, that's fairly normal for you currently

[wind hazel]

if you need to limit break UR ships, save until you can fully limit break the UR ship, otherwise don't buy anything

[zinc cave]

i dont believe you have to 3 star every level to progress to the next

but you might be restricted by the commander level so that's that

[crystal flume]

does that mean it's not worth getting san diego to max? or the event to get her item will come soon? i'm sorry i'm still new

[zinc cave]

it means you shouldnt spend until you need it, there's no pressure to spend your specialized core until you need to

[wind hazel]

UR ship has priority, so UR>Sandy

sandiego is still a great ship, you will eventually come back to her

[crystal flume]

the shop said it reset in a day.. and I don't know if it'll be there haha

[atomic abyss]

That's for other stuff in the shop

[zinc cave]

that's for the stuff that you spend protocores for (the blue currency)

[atomic abyss]

Specialized core shop doesn't reset
Protocore does

[zinc cave]

specialized core stuff will always stay there

[tame jungle]

protocore does except for UR gear

[crystal flume]

ah.. I'm at the last two stage for her but yeap will take sometime to get the yellow mats

[atomic abyss]

In other words
Only get sandy retro when you need her AA prowess - namely w13

[zinc cave]

good for w12 too, but mainly w13 is where you're going to need her

[crystal flume]

Aaaaaahhhh lol.. so misleading thank you

[wind hazel]

specialized core reset too doesn't it

[zinc cave]

yeah it does

all of the stuff stays there, there's no rotation to the shop, just refreshing stock (ur prints excluded)

[wind hazel]

yeah

[zinc cave]

i can see why its confusing to a new player

[crystal flume]

thank you for explanation

[noble osprey]

How new is considered new? Im lvl 82 currently on chapter 12 and chapter 11 hard mode, each battle costs 70 oil for me so i can barely 3 star a single stage each day, and if i try running cheaper fleets my ships cant clear the level.

[wind hazel]

if you play a lot it's normal to run out of oil

[zinc cave]

also if you're constantly pushing new levels, you wont be experiencing the oil-cap benefit since ch9 so the oil efficiency goes down there

remember to do commissions, grab your weekly oil stimulus from the store, and upgrade your oil canteen

[zinc cave]

dont have to 3 star every stage

[atomic abyss]

W12 is where you're considered to begin mid game lol

[sinful escarp]

clearing w12 is where the auto farm starts

[spark vapor]

im raising a META fleet, who should I raise for the frontlines? meta the faction btw

[gusty olive]

dies

[sinful escarp]

probably helena, wichitta and jintsuu
not sure how well they will work together though

[zinc cave]

honestly vanguards for META have a pretty bad selection

[spark vapor]

it is, but I wanna have at least a fleet ready

[gusty olive]

Where are you even using em? if OpSi boss, give up. Even just backline can only do much

You could use Algerie META as one of the vanguards if you still wanna anyways, and Helena META

[spark vapor]

I raised everything I would need already. so I figure I'd make a meta fleet for the sake of it

[gusty olive]

You already have all META's maxed?

[spark vapor]

no, not the meta
that's why im raising them

[zinc cave]

Vanguard wise,
Pamiat Merkuria META - deceptively good bulk/tank with Skill 2
Jintsuu META - good TRP dealer/buffer, niche pvp use w/ zombie skill
Helena META - good FP dealer, good but clunky to use support skills
Kasumi META - elite but TRP stat is massive, but skills only buff DDs
Kirov META - great FP dealer, high personal damage, has a small slow and a one time damage buff
Algerie META - damage oriented CA, 1 MGM so poor gun damage but has decent barrage/burn damage, okay bulk but still not a great main tank

[spark vapor]

bless you my guy 🙏

[zinc cave]

backline wise, all of the golds are okay one way or another

[gusty olive]

crack head recommandation for backline:

RodneyM
QETA
Nageta

[whole crypt]

best solution don't use faction fleet

[flint knot]

Do I have to beat every ship on map and the boss?

[whole crypt]

for? you usually only need to do it once for a star

[gusty olive]

Most who ask for faction fleet optimizations are probably already aware of it not being efficient anyways

[zinc cave]

no, once the boss shows up you can just defeat it to clear the stage

[flint knot]

So while rushing stages early clearing extra ships is just waste of oil?(ai just started)

[zinc cave]

not necessarily

[whole crypt]

doing any stage clearing extra ships is a waste of oil, besides for the star

[flint knot]

Thanks 🙂

[zinc cave]

short answer is no, not worth
long answer is yes but only because you need to kill x amount of ships on a stage/all enemies for stars to 3 star a stage

once you get to chapter 9 the oil cap mechanic gets introduced once you clear a stage which drastically increases your oil economy for farming

[zinc cave]

Guess I should mention Wichita META at least. The way she works is that the lower HP she is, the more damage she does and she does really good damage but she has really low bulk. The problem is if you get too low and stay at low hp she loses all her damage so her actual practical use is a bit contentious

[gusty olive]

mucho gimmick XD

[fluid umbra]

What should my sub fleet be?

[twilit sage]

hello, i just got 2 momo from building ship, is there any reason to keep 2 copy or i can just use it to limit break

[zinc cave]

no genuine beneficial reason to keep 2 copies so just use it to LB

[twilit sage]

can you run 2 copy of the same ship in different fleet? like for example momo in fleet one but a different momo in fleet 2

[fluid umbra]

Use it to LB, if MLB, then retire.

[fluid umbra]

Afaik you can but generally no reason to.

[rough vale]

Are the daily paid packs a decent value or nah?

[storm heron]

200 gems the worthmost

otherwise you are paying gems for permanent resources

200 gems is basically "If you plan on spending money on the game, this is a MUST pick"

[zinc cave]

your current wolf pack setup with u37, u556 and u410 is serviceable enough for now.

You can snag U-96 when the SR SS rotates into the Medal shop and pair them with U-37 and U-410 for a decent Wolfpack setup until you get a 3rd gold Wolfpack to replace U-410

otherwise you can pair Archerfish with Albacore (get from Merit Shop) and Nautilus which works okay as well.

[rough vale]

Good to know. I have my skin black friday list together so trying to maximize value 👍

[prime kayak]

bruh i hate this month arbiter.

[zinc cave]

strength is like that

[forest palm]

Arbiter is easy la...

[zinc cave]

also annoying la

[forest palm]

that's just skill issue~

[storm heron]

ayo careful before ender read

[forest palm]

[sharp echo]

need anti air unlocked for aviation too?

[zinc cave]

yes

[sharp echo]

to progress i need to upgrade 2/2 instead of 1/2 right? (air elite II)

ok i thought i wasted resource xd

[soft raft]

you should be getting all the nodes anyways regardless of if they're pre-requestites for other nodes or not

[sharp echo]

should i use exp book to yui to replace long island? or just leave it for now?

[fluid umbra]

If you can MLB Yui she's better than Long Island, but if you can't MLB don't bother

[sharp echo]

ok leave it then it is, need to rush level to open more event stage

[fluid umbra]

I used long island until she's level 100, but did not retrofit her.
She's a decent early game ship but won't do anything past early game.

[jolly spruce]

How do u level up ur account fast?

[fluid umbra]

Buy the instant to 70 pack

[jolly spruce]

[fluid umbra]

For f2p it's just playing the game, doing dailies and newbie missions.

[jolly spruce]

How about comms? Do they give u?

Im still at w5 and im starting to feel the heavy timegate the game has for me

[fluid umbra]

Commisions give ship xp not commander xp.
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Experience

[zinc cave]

You get Commander XP from doing sorties and dailies

[jolly spruce]

Alr2

Is this game really that timegated?

[spring bolt]

well, my EN account has been cmdr level gated for a week, and the account is 2 weeks old...

[jolly spruce]

No way