gameplay-help

[glass basin]

and yeah if they didn't look up they wouldn't know to coin out before popping catchup

[sharp socket]

i dont understand this argument

[atomic abyss]

im not sure why you're so surprised

[zinc turret]

atleast i know the analyze catchup trick

[plain saffron]

Have you seen how many people ask after they do things

[wind hazel]

yes, buy until you can have enough for 3 champange gun, 2 if you got this

[glass basin]

well it's not a huge thing in the long run

[plain saffron]

It's just minmax

[storm heron]

why was flandre gun not recommended again?

[fiery raptor]

in the long run not so much, but at the start key equipment make a difference

[plain saffron]

Bigger Spread, only better against med(or heavy i forgot) and need to +13 instead of champy gun

[glass basin]

yeah the first few Bf109 and stuff are definitely huge

maybe saiun too

[plain saffron]

+13 champy gun is higher prio

[sharp socket]

i dont think they do really

[zinc cave]

meagrely better against med

[storm heron]

it depends on what research they are doing

[zinc cave]

pretty much not worth the spread increase unless that half second timing difference becomes relevant

[sharp socket]

maybe in the future when people are recommended to do pr5 research instead of pr4

[glass basin]

champy can be craft in lab now tho

[zenith heron]

I remember the time that someone called the Georgia gun crap

It wasn't crap, just not good for everything

[glass basin]

but yeah if they need to save ordnance reports for flapjacks it's ok

[fiery raptor]

going from ijn 410 ap guns to the first champy guns felt like thanos grabbing the infinity stones (why yes i made 3 ijn 410s from protocore before i knew better)

[zinc turret]

Huh ? Is it reset monthly ?

[plain saffron]

Still too expensive

[glass basin]

what is flandre gun again

[glass basin]

cores are not that easy to come by either

[zenith heron]

you'd actually get more progress here in protocore than in gear lab despite it giving 20 copies a month for its actual craft of 25 blueprints

[sharp socket]

the only reason i can think of where a new player wont ask before doing something is if they got slammed by people on their first time in gph or this server

[atomic abyss]

[storm heron]

or when people think they are right

[atomic abyss]

most new players dont even come to this channel

[plain saffron]

You need to interact with people outside gph

[fiery raptor]

well some come for validation of their actions "yeah see i was i rite am genias" and aren't happy when told the opposite

[atomic abyss]

you really overestimate people's willingness to learn

[wind hazel]

take a visit to al-general and see the wonder of casual gamers

[glass basin]

most new players don't even come to discord

[sharp socket]

i talk to people in general chat

[storm heron]

I am a genias

[zenith heron]

well there are some people literally asking at #al-general than heading here

[plain saffron]

Most people just see resources and use them, no time to think and minmax things

[sharp socket]

they dont talk about gameplay in there, and new players generally get referred to gph or sams guides

[fiery raptor]

i mkae rainbw quint tarpudo for ubuki why is boss not die halp shit game difficult

[atomic abyss]

they do talk about gameplay there

[barren tapir]

i've seen interesting things in al-gen

[wind hazel]

i used triple DD with 0lb amagi until w12 when i started before i come visit this channel level advantage is very strong in this game

[glass basin]

imagine caring about minmax when you can turbo harbiter with all rainbow

[atomic abyss]

you just havent been there enough to know

the average player is a casual and wont ask for help until they get stuck on something

[sharp socket]

if anything its gph people in there like goose

[plain saffron]

Not to mention you need to know
-coining exist
-you can analyze
-the reqs to analyze
-catchup exist
To even get the conclusion that you can minmax catchup

[glass basin]

just wait till they get to chapter 13+ kew

[atomic abyss]

less than half the playerbase even gets to w9

[glass basin]

fr

[storm heron]

gn gph Imma run away

[plain saffron]

I won't argue against that but you need to accept that catchup minmax is not general knowledge

[atomic abyss]

most of them do their grinding in events

[barren tapir]

i wouldn't know about it without reading samguides

[glass basin]

yeah I used my series 4 bps on agir recently and got slammed for it

[sharp socket]

is the problem then people not knowing or people not wanting to know

[glass basin]

because apparently coindev is coming out for her early next year

[atomic abyss]

people dont know what they dont know

[sharp socket]

because if people not knowing is the problem that is an easy fix

[atomic abyss]

in other words they wont ask if they dont know if there is things to know

[zinc cave]

[barren tapir]

i don't think it's something easy to intuit without someone guiding you on it. you probably won't think of it by yourself going in blind

[atomic abyss]

and do you really think people listen to a meta slave like goose (no offence goose)

[glass basin]

yeah they can't stop me from using dev30 Drake

[fiery raptor]

goose is dead, let it go maverick

[barren tapir]

i sure dont

[plain saffron]

Don't know and don't bother

[glass basin]

ah yes meta in a mostly pve game

[barren tapir]

i dont always listen to gph i take their opinions for consideration though

i did poikai despite gph advice

[zenith heron]

the Normal Mindset is basically Wants > Needs, till they ask a suggestion

[fiery raptor]

despite? what happend to yuudachi to make her shit?

[atomic abyss]

well the DDG retros are more worth lol

[glass basin]

I dunno
but I've seen a vid saying Nana is a better yuudachi apparently
which I'm not sure

[barren tapir]

several ppl said she not worth investing into anymore

i was always gonna do her cos i like her, i just asked to see what ppl in general thought of yuudachi these days~

[atomic abyss]

the issue with poi kai is getting poi

[glass basin]

just be lucky

[barren tapir]

i asked after obtaining her lol

[wind hazel]

i would against retroing her because you would need the specialized core for UR bulin

[glass basin]

imagine being stuck on yuudachi hell

[fiery raptor]

"don't tell gph your non-meta plans"

[barren tapir]

i just low oiled it, it was easy

[atomic abyss]

poi is half a UR bulin
DDG is a quarter

tho you need to sac a fair bit of core data

[barren tapir]

ddg costs core data for their weapon

[sharp socket]

i dont see an issue with knowing, doing it is an another thing that cant be solved, so just spreading the knowledge that it can be done should be good enough

[glass basin]

legit eldridge is the best retro UR

[barren tapir]

i did retro cc and poi both, ended up preferring poi

[quartz jungle]

For their aux and weapon yeah

[atomic abyss]

celerio, no offence but your view is just naive at best

[glass basin]

imagine meta in a waifu game
can't be me

[fiery raptor]

if tashgun is easily grabbable in core, what is reason to keep harbin gun?

[atomic abyss]

precisely because it costs core

[zenith heron]

Knowledge can't be the same as experience though (sorry on this)

[atomic abyss]

just gear lab the gold twin 128 at that point

[barren tapir]

yeah it's understandable, and i could see why she isn't recommended.

felt it was worth it to me personally so i did so anyway. but it's always good to get some vibe check opinions before taking the plunge

[glass basin]

maybe they already have harbin gun as they research

[sharp socket]

if protocore gear can be obtained with coins and time instead of a lot more time and coins i think thats a good tradeoff

[glass basin]

so it's cheaper than buying with core?

[plain saffron]

If they actively find guides and found sam's guide then it's good

[sharp socket]

so if people dont do it then its their preference i guess

[atomic abyss]

not to mention, we shd be recommending players to PR5 focus now anyways

[barren tapir]

is harbin gun the prototype 130mm or whatever

[fiery raptor]

skc 128 still value? i've only been making these as secondary guns for EU CAs and CLs. For dd with mgm+1 skc still prefer?

[glass basin]

I mean over time you'd have more cores than you need so
just buy if you need

[sharp socket]

that timeframe is way too long honestly

[atomic abyss]

it's not the best, but it's better than wasting core on a tash gun imo

twin 128 is fairly cheap

[barren tapir]

i made a bunch of 128s for various dds, theyre not too pricey and a large upgrade over purple 120

[glass basin]

at 90 cores a day that's 33k core a year

[sharp socket]

farming for protocore is way off what would be recommended

[barren tapir]

i put it on laffey

[atomic abyss]

the ONLY reason to have tash gun is for tash's skill pre augment

and now she has the augment
she doesnt even need it anymore

[glass basin]

wait wut
aren't we talking about tashkent gun

[barren tapir]

what is this

[sharp socket]

your convo is a different convo

[barren tapir]

which core, there are way too many

[wind hazel]

core data

[trail nymph]

would anyone know why I cant give her any tickets today? I was able to yesterday

[barren tapir]

ah. well i dont think everyone is able to do ch13hm

[sharp socket]

my convo was with nagami about protocore gaining from catchups

[glass basin]

ok maybe there were some confusion

[wind hazel]

increase her level to 30 or above

[barren tapir]

is it worth doing the protocore thing for every series

[wind hazel]

yes, very worth i'd say.

the amount of time saved is huge

[trail nymph]

ohhh thank you. I thought when given all the tickets to her I would get her fully at level 30 urgh I feel dumb

[glass basin]

I always get confused when they refer to equipment by shipname than caliber

[barren tapir]

i did series 1 and am now collecting my reward, idk what the next one i'd do is, prolly pr4 with ancho catchup?

[sharp socket]

theres a bunch of guns named the same caliber thats why

[glass basin]

also isn't harbin gun better vs non-heavy and harbin gun good for general use

I dunno I just call them 130mm1936

[barren tapir]

[glass basin]

maybe I'm more used to memorizing numbers

[sharp socket]

DDs dont do well against heavy in general

[barren tapir]

ig i'd call it prototype 130mm, didnt know it was harbin's til now lol

[glass basin]

same tbh

[sharp socket]

i call that one pr5 DD gun

[barren tapir]

gunboat dds. torp dds do pretty well vs heavy

[vagrant harness]

When will the 10x skill book event end?

[barren tapir]

tho only a couple torp dds have enough uptime to be nice i guess

[barren tapir]

dec 11th

[glass basin]

there are only 2 tiers of DD's
Laffey
Garbage
jk

[barren tapir]

[vagrant harness]

Thanks so much

[glass basin]

unless main gun can turbo proc danmaku

[gusty olive]

Any adjustments for fleet 3?

[glass basin]

like laffey 2

[glass basin]

just need to optimize enty for something like implacable or avp

or just use a busted dps

[gusty olive]

AvP is currently wip (leveling)

[glass basin]

could also use hakuryu or ark royal for the time being (if built)

[trail nymph]

another noob question but how do I get more submarine units? I only have 2

[vale spindle]

shops (guild shop elite, medal shop sometimes, merit shop sometimes), permanent gacha praying, event gacha praying

[gusty olive]

It was ark earlier but swapped cus not doing well in Harbiter

[trail nymph]

is there any specific ones I should get from the shop?

[gusty olive]

not much change anyways, since best I could bring the Harbiter is down to 6x

[vale spindle]

you can get u96 from medal shop, and u37 from merit shop

you can also get various elite submarines from guild shop that aren't really good but filler is better than nothing

[trail nymph]

ahh okay thanks for the help 🙂

[glass basin]

could consider swapping eldy for another buffer like sirius and give her tear

[zenith heron]

doing Hakuryuu on the fight is risky in reliance of a slow/freeze over Ark Royal, unless you rely on the slow of Eldridge which is slightly luck based if your torp bombers even hit...

[sharp socket]

short test of tashkent (gun DD) and ayanami (torp DD) against harby who is heavy armor, didnt go too well for ayanami (not shimakaze cause i dont have her)

[zenith heron]

your against Hermit right? not Strength currently? (I am so damn blind)

[gusty olive]

Perhaps... and maybe put Eldridge in fleet 4 but that fleet doesnt really need more survivability

[sharp socket]

strength

[zenith heron]

its medium tho

[barren tapir]

is this even how you test stuff? i wouldnt know tbh

[sharp socket]

ill run it back a few more times cause torps are unreliable

[barren tapir]

also fwiw, tash is a significantly better dd overall than ayaya these days

[sharp socket]

if harby med then ill go find a heavy enemy

[barren tapir]

nagato meta

[atomic abyss]

this is why we use metas

[sharp socket]

nagato meta it is

…interesting, torp DD doesnt suck

well nagato doesnt move alot

im more surprised that ayanami’s mvp but alright torp DD good for heavy

[zenith heron]

she doesn't move a lot till the 3rd part (By that I mean if you use airstrikes as your main damage)

[sharp socket]

when harby is heavy ill try her again vs harby

[atomic abyss]

people tend to forget aya was the best torp nuker for a very long time

[barren tapir]

im more wonderng why you thought they wouldnt be, if torp ca and cl are good vs heavy (like unzen and whoever idk)

now do a comparison between ayaya and nanana

[sharp socket]

well cause i never saw torpers doing damage whenever i checked my screen

[atomic abyss]

aya does damage like once every 20s, what did you expect

[barren tapir]

bro didnt give them a chance smh

nana has a smoother dmg curve than many torpbotes i think. since her barrage is spammable and good mobbing pattern but also fine for bossing due to priority lightning strike

[sharp socket]

yeah so if the fight is short they dont do alot

[fallow sedge]

How hard is escort level 95

[barren tapir]

i just noticed nana skill has no duration mentioned on her debuff for herself

Enemies hit by this special barrage take 10% more torpedo DMG from this ship.

is there one in datamine or is it perma buff vs tanky enemies lol

[prime glacier]

Bought almost all the guild shop, do these things have random apear rates?

[barren tapir]

wtf is that

[prime glacier]

welcomeback

[barren tapir]

and why don't i have it

[gilded carbon]

from the returner-missions

[barren tapir]

ohhh okay i see

[prime glacier]

I did this welcomeback almost 5 times in this accounts lifespan

[barren tapir]

gotta buy 5 gold aux plates from the guild shop

[prime glacier]

yep! thanks

managed to reset the shop for 50 guild coins

[icy cave]

Unable to clear harbiter this month...any fleet advice?

[atomic abyss]

the issue is the gear

[prime glacier]

Oh no, not again..

having more is better right?

[atomic abyss]

you likely are attacking harbi when her shield goes up

[prime glacier]

or I should just skip this?

[gusty olive]

helena

[icy cave]

Ahh so I have to time my burst😭

[barren tapir]

there is always manual

[icy cave]

I could try that....my gear knowledge is bad

[gusty olive]

if im making a torp meme set up, is it fine to do in fleet 4?

[prime glacier]

skip? I have one already

[atomic abyss]

fleet 3 needs a slower
but from your levels forget clearing harbi this mth

at best it's 25%

[gusty olive]

lowest I got is 6x but yeah

I just gave up after 3 failed atempts

[zenith heron]

I'll have to admit I have no +13 gear, it really helps against arbiters, but as a person who recently started OpSi, I have no 13+ plates

its just the gear rly

[icy cave]

Any gear suggestion for my fleet 2 and 3?

[tall bane]

I can’t beat 13-1 help

[atomic abyss]

all your BBs get 457
CVs have to brute force with their BiS gear

[icy cave]

Alright, I'll try it out

[icy cave]

Took all 4 fleets but I beat ir

[keen pewter]

whats the most useful pr3 ship

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[whole crypt]

arguably Cheshire but they're all aged

[coarse heron]

PR2 and 3 are pretty skippable with the exception of FdG

[whole crypt]

FdG is also skippable if you have a good BB to work with, she takes a while to get to a functional state

[left cedar]

how can u say that

[coarse heron]

FdG depends on who else you have for BBs

[left cedar]

even if u have something like Musa, still will need a 2nd gud BB to ... and in Perma u wanna Shin MLB asap ... so it gona take a while to u got a 2nd gud enough BB ...

avaliable in perma the one came "close" to FdG aside UvH/NJ its MP probally

also wanna remind that FdG its better overall than MP

but isnt a secret that i'm trully biased toward FdG so ...

[coarse heron]

You can get FdG FS5 quicker than you can MLB a UR BB from scratch

[whole crypt]

not saying FdG isn't good enough, but in the time you need to at leasj d30 her you're likely already going to be working with something at least half-decent

[coarse heron]

If you’re such a new player you don’t have her already developed you likely don’t have any other UR BBs either

Or you only have one

[opaque gate]

why is 406 AP better than 406 SAP? vs med

[prime glacier]

Hi! Do I still have time to get Nagato Meta? I have 14%

[zinc turret]

I think its only take like 1-2 months only to mlb 1 ur ship as newbie

[rapid moth]

Geometric pattern of the sap gun bullets is worse than that from the ap gun

[crimson glacier]

it takes like a week to get the ship, but it will take a month to get her limit break stuff

[coarse heron]

SAP has a bad geometric spread

[opaque gate]

i see, thanks

[left cedar]

In paper, SAP is better
in practice is hard to notice a diff between then in Med, and SAP is terrible worse in heavy, so u gona invest in something that is equal in med and worse in general

[coarse heron]

and you're going to use HE on light, not SAP
So it's effectively a medium only gun with a bad spread

[zinc cave]

You'll be able to get her but you won't be able to MLB her

[left cedar]

get her, 120 her, stat tech farm is a thing after all

[prime glacier]

So If i get her there still is a way to MLB her

is she better than normal Nagato?

[left cedar]

not rn, in something like 2y, she will be archieved, and u can farm wut u need to

[eternal basalt]

Not at mlb0

[zinc cave]

You'll have to wait a long while before she reappears in the META dossier

[zinc cave]

Nagato META for raw damage output is better. But normal Nagato herself still has a strong IJN CV buff niche.

[polar lion]

People shud be getting 3rd La9 around this time, right?

[prime glacier]

Still a good thing to get her now, right?

[left cedar]

probally luckiest guys around yeah, "normal" tryharders close to

i'm at 80/50 La-9 rn

[inland shoal]

I don't know many ppl that got 2 La9s yet

[polar lion]

U haven't craft ur 1st La9 yet?

[left cedar]

of course, and already +13, just showing i'm with 1 and something like 60% of next

[crimson glacier]

are those even useful

[polar lion]

Ah okay

[inland shoal]

It's the best anti med fighter

[polar lion]

Oh I thot peeps in here are on gear focus

[crimson glacier]

yeah but is it useful

its slow, it sucks on campaign

[inland shoal]

Well you would use it vs med bosses

[left cedar]

i did focus on Neko first, cuz, is Russian, hot, and green hair

[inland shoal]

Slow reload is an issue, but workable to an extent

Well ig vs heavy bosses too on what little fighter slots you're forced to take

[polar lion]

La9 fix implap being too fast

[crimson glacier]

that feels like a problem you need to make

[zinc cave]

If you're set up and diligent you can get her 5/6 MLB.
You can still level her past 90 because METAs aren't restricted by the MLB rule but youll be losing a sizable chunk of FP from that last LB.

[prime glacier]

5/6 right now as she is obtainable?

[inland shoal]

More importantly without final LB you're missing a main gun mount

[zinc cave]

Oh and that

[jolly spruce]

I genuinely dont get formation strategy

Does it change anything?

[coarse heron]

Yes, it even tells you.

[jolly spruce]

Thank god

[eternal basalt]

Just keep it double line permanent

[next tulip]

Does anyone have the solution for the last event puzzle?

[coarse heron]

the +20% AA isn't actually worth it, even in W15

[jolly spruce]

Yeah, that 30% eva is beautiful

Im still at w5 anyways

[left cedar]

progressing till W12, double, progressing W13 and 15 circle, progressing W14 double

farming Single line

[inland shoal]

You can just tap the title 5 times and it'll auto solve

[next tulip]

Really?

Guess the devs were very confident about this minigame

[inland shoal]

Also there's 8 solutions so no one has the solution

[zinc cave]

Assuming you're set up for max Sync Point gain (975 per day), and are 14% of the way there. With 13 days remaining you can get around to ~16k points.
Meaning you'll miss out on the last 2 LB materials needed for MLB3 which are at 20k and 25k points.

[crimson glacier]

this event truly makes me think less of AL players

[next tulip]

What title?

[zinc cave]

[prime glacier]

I see, I will get her to MLB 0 and then focus on something else meanwhile, is there a way to farm berrter for these Sync Points now?

[next tulip]

Thanks a lot English ain’t my first language so it’s nice being handheld or having training wheels

[prime glacier]

says that in perfect English :)

[inland shoal]

Well I don't exactly have a screenshot and you can't reenter, but just the thing at the top or top left that says Help me, miss Lala or whatever afaik

[zinc cave]

• Yeah if you want to just grab her for the looks/collection that's fine. Still doing the META fight is good too because the rewards aren't half bad in the early parts of the reward track.
• There is no better or faster to farm Sync Points for Nagato META, 975 Sync Points is the max limit you can get per day doing the 2 daily fights and the 3 daily assists.
• After her META Showdown ends, she'll be added to the META dossier in a few years time which is the META Showdown backlog so people can go back and finish their rewards.

[prime glacier]

Thanks! So I will do operation serain daily

for the 2 fights

[zinc cave]

3 daily assists as well, but keep in mind that the 3 daily assists Sync Point rewards will depend on your damage contribution.

975 points per day is assuming you're clearing Lv.15 Nagato META (375 per), and hitting the highest point threshold for the 3 assist fights (75 per)

[bold cove]

You can use AI to correct your sentance

[prime glacier]

I will see what I can do LVL 15 is hard for me now

[zinc cave]

For the 2 daily fights, you have unlimited attempts until you clear the fight to 0 hp. You can also call in people to assist you with the fight which is how people get their 3 daily assist contributions from.

That said the daily fights will cost oil past the first try

[jolly spruce]

Is it better to use the better anti air gear on vanguards?

[coarse heron]

oh boy is THAT a debate
until you're in W13 it doesn't matter

[zinc cave]

Yeah so if you want the "correct" answer, it will depend on who has the highest AA stat, slot efficiencies, mount count etc.

[jolly spruce]

Im still at w5 bro chill

[coarse heron]

yeah it literally doesn't matter then because planes aren't relevant enemy type until W13

[inland shoal]

Eh it matters before too, you can just easily push through with higher ship levels

[zinc cave]

But at the point you're in the game, as long as you're using some half decent selection of AA gear, it's not a concern yet

You can actually just force through with pure levels

[jolly spruce]

Nah, they fr passed through and kills my unicorn

[coarse heron]

oh in that case

do you have any of these?

[jolly spruce]

I just hate it when they require acc level for new world like wut

[coarse heron]

They're arguably the best purple AA gun.

[jolly spruce]

I swear ive never seen a purple anti air in my whole life

[coarse heron]

open more tech boxes then

[zinc cave]

without getting too specfic, its sort of set up so they tell how strong you are

and stop you from running head long into content you probably cant clear

[left cedar]

just avoid Octo Pompom ... dosnt matter the rarity, is a really trash

[coarse heron]

...huh I could swear the purple quad bofors was from tech boxes
guess it really is only from 5-4

[left cedar]

Purple QB is USS Box

[inland shoal]

Okay I would really not bother with AA if you only have blues anyway, but yeah, generally put the best AA on your vanguard with the highest AA stat and eff

[coarse heron]

is wiki lying to me again

[zinc cave]

it did not

[coarse heron]

oh I didn't see that note

[zinc cave]

[left cedar]

idk, but idr they changing boxes lately, wut makes Purple QB droping from USS Boxes

[jolly spruce]

Is this an anti air??

[zinc cave]

yes that's the gold version of the one they sent before

[coarse heron]

the Gold Quad Bofors is good enough to work until W15

[jolly spruce]

I can use it with everyone right? Maybe im farming this world archive...

[coarse heron]

don't farm war archives for it, it comes from tech boxes

[left cedar]

u need a insane amount of runs to complete 1 ... boxes are alot more reliable source of gears ... just keep progressing and brute forcing till W9

[jolly spruce]

Alr I'll brute force in that case

[prime glacier]

thanks, I already did it twice today,it cost a bit of oil

[pale wing]

Guys, how's Avrora in gameplay?

[zinc cave]

Niche Vanguard damage buffer

is also quite slow for a light cruiser as another particular

[zinc cave]

you got any of these?

idk how the new player gear progression works

[coarse heron]

you should buy 4 Eagle Union tech boxes from the event shop if you haven't already

[prime glacier]

worth doing this?

[coarse heron]

only if you want that gun for whatever reason

[prime glacier]

using boxes i mean

[zinc cave]

No, not unless you specifically need a few prints of that weapon

[coarse heron]

that doesn't change my answer.

[prime glacier]

ok, thanks!

[coarse heron]

what else are you going to use boxes for, collect them forever?

[zinc cave]

yes

[prime glacier]

is it a good thing to keep all research queue full?

[coarse heron]

Yes

[prime glacier]

true

[zinc cave]

yeah good rule of thumb to fill up the queue

dont fret too much if you dont have the resources for it always as a newer player

[coarse heron]

much better than the good old days of only one research at a time

[zinc cave]

eugh

[coarse heron]

you'll be doing basic research a lot as a new player

[plain saffron]

hi

[frank pulsar]

hi

[sharp echo]

should i use prinz or shropshire? or stay with portland and helena?
i saw shropsire is tier 3

[atomic abyss]

stick with port and helena
shrop is only good with retro

[sharp echo]

okey

[humble solar]

Is blucher still good

[atomic abyss]

she can be used as a tank, but even in her time, there were already way better tanks

[humble solar]

like who?

[atomic abyss]

anchorage and agir

[humble solar]

i have neither lol

[atomic abyss]

and they are permanently available and dont cost bulins

[humble solar]

i have like, portland ig

[atomic abyss]

you should work on your research ships then

get friederich de grosse for a really good battleship and anchorage for a really good tank first

[humble solar]

are CAs the only tanks?

[atomic abyss]

agir is a CB, but yes

[humble solar]

agir or anchorage priority?

[atomic abyss]

anchorage is much easier to get and max first

[sharp echo]

is this good?

[atomic abyss]

extremely, but you wont need either yet

[humble solar]

what is the best place to grind for exp

[atomic abyss]

w12

[sharp echo]

ooh? anti sub is not needed yet? just basic attack enough?

[atomic abyss]

there are subs in some event maps, but they're weak enough to be brute forced

[sinful escarp]

just keep it for now, NEVER scrap it. you can only get 1 of that

[humble solar]

only 1?

[atomic abyss]

yes

you can only ever get 1 hedgehog

[sinful escarp]

yeah, only 1 hedgehog, because you get it from the sub marine mission after you clear it for the first time

[silk jolt]

Help

[atomic abyss]

tap the help me miss lala logo 5x

[silk jolt]

Eh we can do that?

[atomic abyss]

since the event started yes

[silk jolt]

We have same name too hahahaha

Ender i use in my coc and azur

Anyways thank you

[humble solar]

yes

who is this green haired girl wearing white skinsuit on the loading screen

[atomic abyss]

what

nakhimov i assume?

[humble solar]

the girl with short green hair wearing white suit on the loading screen

[atomic abyss]

admiral nakhimov, rainbow carrier from PR7

[humble solar]

is she good

[atomic abyss]

when you get her to max stars, extremely

[humble solar]

slap

[atomic abyss]

very hard for a new player to get tho

[humble solar]

I can see how hard it can get

PR7, like bruh

anyway i guess i slepp

[obtuse girder]

Any decent boss fleet at level 125 with good gear would be able to kill Strenght in Hard mode right?

[atomic abyss]

no

not for november's variant of strength

[obtuse girder]

[atomic abyss]

which is the hardest arbiter due to the boss abilities

[sharp socket]

i had to pull some funny stuff to do harbiter this month with 4 fleets

[atomic abyss]

you need good boss fleets with at least good gear

[obtuse girder]

I should have said plural

[wind hazel]

depends on what you have really

[bold stream]

Hello all!

I will get Grobe tomorrow if my oil income permits. After Grobe, I am thinking of Percival then Odin? This mainly because they are kms techs too but wont this lock to me kms ships?

[atomic abyss]

no, you get anchorage next

[obtuse girder]

I just need another strong boss fleet, one boss fleet can easily do 40-50 shields on her, so another boss fleet or 2 should be good enough. Its back to the drawing board

[atomic abyss]

then yes, august, then agir
ignore odin

[bold stream]

Problem is i do not have eagle tech

[atomic abyss]

then work on august slowly while you get eagle tech

[bold stream]

Okay thanks. I will work with that in mind.

[bold stream]

The fastest way to tech would be to collect lv 70 then mlb right?

[atomic abyss]

yes
backliners in particular

[bold stream]

Copy!

[swift vector]

lf build Fleet W13

[plain saffron]

did they reset quick retire options??

[atomic abyss]

no

[plain saffron]

i was like why mine shows no match, i thought mine full of bulins already

[atomic abyss]

filter on probably

[plain saffron]

it all resetted to None, the options

both account

[wind hazel]

[tawdry topaz]

Is it worth building Vanguard if I have 5 bulins and every new/rerun URs since Bis2?

[atomic abyss]

maybe look at the dec UR first

[fallow sedge]

Highest hp boss?

[atomic abyss]

probably a challenge mode boss

which one

[fallow sedge]

Meh just the highest hp one
Like how much hp just curious about it

[atomic abyss]

yeah shd be saggitarius

otherwise it's scorpio or taurus

[sharp socket]

scorpio is 5170k

taurus 5230k

[opaque gate]

what does it mean to conduct an experiment in OpSi?

[wind hazel]

any pic of it? doesn't ring a bell

[soft dagger]

move it

[opaque gate]

nvm, i just have to find energy matrix in a port and deliver to a spot

is this worth the depot space?

[wind hazel]

no

[opaque gate]

ok thanks lol

[wind hazel]

are you doing research focus 1?

[opaque gate]

nope, i did before

[wind hazel]

🤝

[zinc cave]

no, pretty much a Twin 113mm downgrade

[woeful sluice]

what CV should I get from the medal shop if I already have Enty?

[forest palm]

none afaik

[eternal moth]

Whoever you want

[opaque gate]

why unicorn needs staag? she has high AA, wont it be better to put high alpha dmg?

[eternal moth]

The hit is more important

[opaque gate]

is it for the whole squad?

[eternal moth]

Yes, it's an average of the attack speed and damage of the full fleet

[opaque gate]

ok so hit is included. Thanks

this doesnt work for campaign?

ok thanks rip

[eternal moth]

Also, you can compare the AA of Unicorn to someone who's ACTUALLY good at AA, like San Diego or Shimanto. Her AA gun efficiency is also terrible. 80%? That's garbage

[storm marlin]

Anyone else solved the final puzzle?

[eternal moth]

Yes, but if you can't figure it out just click the banner a few times.

[soft dagger]

the hit stat from staag itself is for unicorn alone, not for the whole squad

[sharp socket]

backline wants staag because more hit = higher hitrate

[sterile kestrel]

What is "Luck" useful for?

[plain saffron]

/accuracy

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Accuracy determines the chances of hitting or missing the enemy. It is affected by several stats, such as attacker's Hit, defender's Evasion, and Evasion Rate, as well as Luck stat of both. Full maths and factors behind it can be seen here.

Same factors also affect Critical Hit chances, maths behind which can be found here.

[sharp socket]

improves eva and acc

also indicator of bust size for some collabs

[plain saffron]

eva rate and hit rate

[bold stream]

Hello all. I just saw eugen has augment with armor break. Is that worthwhile for newplayers to get?

[plain saffron]

meh

not even special armor break is it, just generic one

[bold stream]

I see. So not very good? Btw, which ships has better armor breaks than her?

[plain saffron]

there's few, but don't use ships just for the armor break

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Armor_Break

[left cedar]

the only thing that Eugen is usefull is her tankiness, but, she expenssive cuz gold bullins and her dmg is worse than Portland for example ... but she fits in a mid/late game if for some reason u lack someone chonky like Agir or Ancho ...

her armor break is also a normal one, and not reliable to sync with BBs like Agir

[lean crater]

Hii, which event Aux goes to which Toloveru ships ? I dont care if they're bad I just wanna put their designed gear, but Idk who

[bold stream]

Thank you! But since I mistakenly mlb her.. maybe i can use her until I get my ancho? 300+ / 850 tech is going to be a long time...

But then I also have roon...

[left cedar]

she is close to ancho in Tankiness, and dmg isnt something that both do, ok, ancho does more dmg, and her tankiness also helps others in VG cuz smooke, but Eugen do that tank role reliable

Roon is worse in tankiness and her dmg isnt something usefull enough to make up a diff in her favor

[soft raft]

Just dont forget to raise Portland since you need to for your rookie missions
Alog with doing like 80% of her retrofit

[left cedar]

if u are seeking a KMS Tank, then u have
Hein, FC, Adal, Eugen and Hindy

[bold stream]

Should I stop feeding my gold to roon then?

[soft raft]

next UR rerun yes
but they've screwed around with the rerun order so we dont know when exactly

[bold stream]

I have portland 115 retrofited...

[left cedar]

if u mean trying to D30 her, u can keep it, cuz she is KMS Tech after all

[bold stream]

Thank you. This helps a lot on my direction.

[knotty sleet]

guys i check slaimuda this triple gun is on top, but some youtuber use the bottom one, so what do you think better for bossing?

[soft raft]

1. Highest doesnt always mean best, especially in regards to BB guns
2. Both of them have their own uses, 406 Mk7 is mainly used for anti-light and Twin 457 is mainly for if you want your campaign bossing BBs to have better DPS, namely in W14-15

[left cedar]

so better say campaign bosses, cuz bosses can be read by META, Harbys etc...

[bold stream]

I am looking for second fleet tank. Not kms in particular but most available ships for me is kms.

This is all the gold CA i have

[left cedar]

Ancho, Agir, Nap, in your case, Eugen ... all them fit to Tank role

[bold stream]

Prinz is mlb.. because she is the first one i got

[knotty sleet]

hooh i see,, how do i know boss armor?

[left cedar]

also, we currently have 4 Prinz .. so better say 2nd name

[undone plover]

Portland

[bold stream]

I have too 115 retrofitted

[undone plover]

Tank doesnt have to be CA
Also gold ship doesnt mean it is necessarily better than non gold ship

[soft raft]

Mainly off of their hulltype
In the case of Chibi Shipgirl bosses, you can just look them up on the wiki since basically 99% of the time, the boss shares the same armor type as their playable counterpart

[weary gust]

Roon then, since you can coin her.

[undone plover]

So portland 1 fleet
And eugen 2nd fleet

[weary gust]

Eugen is trash without her augment

[undone plover]

She is still a good tank
And better than non dev30 roon

[soft dagger]

you dont even need her aug

[soft raft]

her aug just makes her more bulky

[knotty sleet]

make sense, thanks

[undone plover]

And gives her armor break tbf

[prime glacier]

hi! what should I understand from this? can I do nore meta fights?

[knotty sleet]

you can still gather 120 points for this day (200-80)

so total 30 + 120 = 150 , 1 boss cost 100

[prime glacier]

can I do more fights? I think I did 2 already

[knotty sleet]

I think one left

[prime glacier]

so as long as there are points I can fight?

[knotty sleet]

you need to gather more point againt until 200/200

[soft raft]

(100 per fight)

[undone plover]

U can farm 200 per day and hold 200
Max u can do is 4/day this way
In your case farm 70 more coords and u can do 1 more fight
Then u have to wait for tomorrow

[left cedar]

still tank asf, and still capable of bein chonky even without, and even with it, her dmg keeps shit, but her tank get a bit of a chonky with it, so yeah, when possible, go for it ... but not obligatory fast asf

[soft raft]

wouldnt that be more like 4 every other day

[undone plover]

Yeah I meant max possible ever is 4/day
by holding 1 day
So it is still 2/day

[knotty sleet]

hi can i build thread?, i want to ask input for my team bossing i cannot beat hard meta boss on the center, maybe i miss something

[prime glacier]

worth doing helena meta fights? i do not think i can beat her

[undone plover]

Sure thing
Filter by vanguard then main
And sort by level

[undone plover]

Imo do hiryuuM souryuuM and meta ark first

They are easier fights overall and the ships give better tech when u get them to 120

[knotty sleet]

bossing something haha

[ebon storm]

Who is worst ship

[viscid swift]

define "worst ship"

[ebon storm]

Worst ur ship

Shinano?

[atomic abyss]

far from
she's the best of the perma URs lol

[viscid swift]

definitely not

[atomic abyss]

worst UR is technically warspite kai

[ebon storm]

I just came back like 2 years after so i thought meta changed

[atomic abyss]

if anything she just got a massive buff thanks to amagi

[viscid swift]

if anything Shinano has gotten more relevant with time

[atomic abyss]

if we talking about base UR rarity
either kronshtadt or shimakaze

[ebon storm]

Ok then i guess ill build shinano up thank

[undone plover]

U might want to hold your UR bulins
We should get a new UR soon

[forest palm]

Shimakaze is honestly the worst UR

[undone plover]

And dont spend cubes on perma banner

[forest palm]

especially when Ibuki exists

[ebon storm]

Too late haha but still got nearly 200 left thankfully

[undone plover]

U should have enough for the UR then
Pls save and dont spend more

[ebon storm]

Is it worth 13+ my ur triple 406’s?

[undone plover]

If u mean 460
No

[stark quiver]

Wait a sec

[ebon storm]

This

[undone plover]

Oh
It is worth at some point
Have you done your gold AP guns first?

[ebon storm]

Some of them

[undone plover]

Champy/soyuz/flan gun?

[ebon storm]

Like champagne gun

[undone plover]

Show your BB guns
Filter by BB in depot
Turn on equipped and sort by enhance

[ebon storm]

I think they all 10 for now

[undone plover]

Are you f2p?
If u are f2p I recommend u do 1 champy and 2 flandre gun triple 380 mle 1935
To +13

[ebon storm]

Ok

Will do that first then

[undone plover]

Well u only have 1 champy right now

[ebon storm]

Ill build some i think might have enough resources lying around

[undone plover]

I think 2 champy 1 flandre is also fine

[remote quarry]

So, I have primarily been doing my xp and coin grinding in 12-4, but I find a need to level a significant number of ships from 120 to 125 now, (I want to push W14). Is grinding at 13-4 a significant enough XP boost to do over 12-4?

[soft raft]

Eh, just farm W12

[undone plover]

Stay in 12-4
13-4 is only better for gold

[remote quarry]

Got it. Thank you

[undone plover]

And cog chips but it is very minor

[bold cove]

I beg your pardon, but what is soyuz and flandre gun?

[undone plover]

This is flandre gun https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_380mm_(Mle_1935_Prototype)
this is soyuz gun
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(MK-1)#Type_3-0

[desert tapir]

I just got the last item from META Nagato fights. Never done the full sync on a live META before so I'm sorry for a dumb question: should I keep fighting her or do just ignore it until the next META drops?

[undone plover]

u mean u have 70k?
Yeah after that u can chill

U can fight for fun or helping others
But u wont get anything extra

[desert tapir]

Neat

[bold cove]

Thanks you

[sharp echo]

what dorm expand give other than more room?

[sleek flower]

if i have 2 tenrai, 2 plygun, 2 pr6 gun, and 1 la9, which season should i do research?

[elfin hollow]

its just for more cosmetic space

[sleek flower]

gotcha, thanks.

[elfin hollow]

buying dorm slots is good tho

[atomic abyss]

dorm area expansion increases comfort
and fully expanded area gets you the ability to unlock the 2nd floor
the 2nd floor is strongly recommended because it doubles your slots for morale regen

[elfin hollow]

for more ships

[left cedar]

2nd floor ?
moral regem, and "doubles" ur current amount of slots, if u have 3, with 2nd floor it will be 6

for active players that farm alot, its obligatory a 2nd floor

and for F2P active farmers, its even more, cuz its alot cheaper do 3slots +2nd

[sharp echo]

currently my dorm slot is 3, should i unlock 1 more? current gem is 800ish

[atomic abyss]

no

unlock 2nd floor instead

[sharp echo]

oke!

[soft raft]

dorm slots after the 3rd one get way too pricey
esp for F2P

[sharp echo]

what else should i use thje gem for?

[atomic abyss]

dock slots

[soft raft]

after 2nd floor and 3rd dorm slot, it's all in on dock space

[sharp echo]

right, my dock start to get full now that u mention it

no other way to expand dock other than gems?

[elfin hollow]

nope

[sharp echo]

ok2 got it ty

[wind hazel]

guild has free expansion, but limited

well not "free" free, but $free

[undone plover]

Does harby 20 second shield get offset by the spawn delay?

[sharp echo]

how to farm decor coin? i only know from commision and sometimes from girls

[atomic abyss]

no other way

[sharp echo]

ooof oke
gonna take a while

[undone plover]

So do we eat the shield for first BB rotation?

[atomic abyss]

AFCT?

[forest palm]

AFCT, and HSFCR would help

perhaps maybe Flan Gun as well

[sweet delta]

Yes…
gph

[left cedar]

everything u need to know about shield its, he can be unbreakable ... just get luck cheer to break him and everything gona be alright

or just hit harder and kill b4 appears

[undone plover]

u mean the strength shield?
i was asking about the 20% hp every 20 second buff shield

[spare crag]

How big is the game

With jp/kr voice

[viscid swift]

there are KR voices?

[atomic abyss]

no

[atomic abyss]

24 GB for android, 28 GB for ios

no korean

[spare crag]

Bruh

Is this even mobile game

[viscid swift]

yes, it certainly is

[soft raft]

it's certainly not uncommon

[atomic abyss]

thats with all asssets in

if you dont dowload the bulkier assets (aka 3D dorm) you can shave off at least 5 GB

[barren tapir]

shields activate 1:07 to 1:02, 47 to 42, 27 to 22, 7 to 2, approximately

idk what bros yappin up above

[undone plover]

that means it gets offset
thanks

[forest palm]

[undone plover]

what does VT mean here and range Fr and Sh
also curious what makes 155 worse than kai for CL
there doesnt seem to be a huge difference

and why dont we recommend an AP gun over either of them in mobbing
I thought AP can pierce and hit more targets

[viscid swift]

volley time is the time between volleys

as for why the regular 155 worse, look at it's firing pattern compared to the 155 kai on each page

[undone plover]

oh the spread cone vs aim?

I see

so for range it means if an enemy is in range 65 they will fire but the shell can "expire" at 52-72 range? I guess if it is fired in a weird angle?

[sweet delta]

targeting range and bullet range are both circular

[forest palm]

almost as if the 155 Kai is an upgraded ver of the 155 shocking

[sweet delta]

the bullet expires at a random range between 52 and 72, so if it fires at 65 and rolls averagely/poorly then it doesn't hit

[barren tapir]

oh damn i didnt know that

[undone plover]

so what about AP gun for mobbing? is it just cause we dont have a good AP gun outside of ply and the french gun?
would an AP version of 155(kai) be better for mobbing for example?

[viscid swift]

that's more or less the gist of it

[undone plover]

and last question is the extra spread from normal 155 the reason it is good for suicide boats? cuz it misses less?

so what makes 155kai better for ch14?
i guess slower and bulkier suicide boats?

I can feel getting
Thanks guys

[noble osprey]

Guys is there an easier way to get blueprints for Agir? I got the 150 from research but i still need a ton more

[undone plover]

still not sure what volley time means

[barren tapir]

wait for DR4 coining or focus pr4 research and take agir face researchs

[spring bolt]

ap gun for cl mobbing is fine, it's just most cl ap guns are bad

[barren tapir]

take the twin120 dd gun for example, it shoots 2 rounds of 2 bullets, volley time is the time between those rounds iirc

[undone plover]

oh makes sense
so how does it matter in practice?
i guess less volley time is better for moving targets?

[barren tapir]

well it was either that or the time between mgm+1 firings i forgot

[sweet delta]

time spent volleying is time not spent reloading

[undone plover]

but isnt there an 0.3 abs cd already? or is that sth else

[viscid swift]

there's Volley time and absolute cooldown to consider

[undone plover]

oh it is additive to abscd

[sweet delta]

absolute cooldown is not based on the gun type though

[spring bolt]

vt is the time gap between the gun firing 1st of the shell and it firing the last of the shell
best example is the twin 203 eugen gun which has a 1s long vt, and compare to nep gun which fires all shells at once so it has 0 vt

[viscid swift]

blame the wiki as per usual

[sweet delta]

it's based on the ship's equipped skin

[undone plover]

dont bring skins into this sushi
cursed knowledge

[barren tapir]

funny

[spring bolt]

the twin 203 is 2x3 shells, its firing pattern is like
2 --- 0.5s gap --- 2 --- 0.5s gap --- 2
so you have the 1s vt

[undone plover]

does same logic hold true for CA guns?
does this mean hinden gun best for mobbing?
i remember sth about drake gun for mobbing though

[viscid swift]

it's kinda self explanatory, a volley would be firing a gun/turret on each ship individually at regular intervals whereas a salvo is firing everything at once

[undone plover]

yeah now that u mention it it is kinda obvious
i just forgot vanguard guns have volleys for some reason

[forest palm]

[undone plover]

angle is the lock on possibility for gun right?
so 360 angle for dd guns means they can fire behind them?

[spring bolt]

yes

[sweet delta]

less than 180 angle means it can only fire in front unless it's brest's ghost

[hexed fox]

Is it better to use my blueprints for retrofitting or for unlocking research ships?

[forest palm]

depends on the ship you're retrofitting, and the research ship you're trying to unlock

[undone plover]

retro unicorn portland starter DD and nelson if u lack 2 good BBs is priority usually

[hexed fox]

I retro’d portland, still working on Laffey and I’m almost done with first research ship (Izumo) and Im running Kii and Musashi going into world 10

I guess It’ll just take a lot of time lol just wondering if there was a significant benefit to doing one first.

[stoic forge]

Shinano or new jersey,i have soyuz

[undone plover]

lack of is concerning otherwise looks fine
nelson would be cheaper than izumo but if u got her already then oh well

try and work on anchorage/august/FdG if u can

[undone plover]

shinano

[spring bolt]

but since you just mentioned vt, things get more cursed
using 203 as example again, your first volley locks only a target and start firing and the target moves out of firing angle, the firing cone for the other 2 volleys can go beyond 40 degree
to add more curse into this, sometimes all 3 volleys will hit the sea not the traget, if target is too fast, probably due to pre-motion

[hexed fox]

Gotcha thanks! And I’m almost done with Uni too just having bad luck on t3 carrier prints

[forest palm]

the fun of getting into the technical side of this game is realizing how cursed the spaghetti really is

[barren tapir]

all this spaghetti and no italian gacha UR

[undone plover]

unicorn > FdG/anchorage/august would be my priority for retro prints

[spring bolt]

you or the game, either one will run

[forest palm]

Napoli eraser as all things intended

[barren tapir]

DR is not UR it is DR

[forest palm]

will always treat DRs are URs, and Warspite as negligible

[barren tapir]

ok fixed

[forest palm]

Warspite was never good, any one saying otherwise was/is coping

[spring bolt]

wut?... back when she just got the retro, she's no doubt top tier

[atomic abyss]

...you do realise she was the 2nd strongest BB in the game for a while right

[barren tapir]

warspitefallen

[ocean orbit]

i got unicorn from guildshop should i limitbreak her?

[barren tapir]

get your unicorn, raise your unicorn, max your unicorn, love your unicorn

[forest palm]

it honestly did not take long for BBs to catch up to Warspite is my thing

[ocean orbit]

Alright i love my unicorn thanks

[atomic abyss]

the first non UR BB to match warkai was richelieu lol

[barren tapir]

warspite good for some time but she was an exercise in caution they shouldve gone much crazier with her retrofit

[atomic abyss]

and needless to say, that was on light

[spring bolt]

i still remember running massive test for warkai and monarch
definitely not because i didn't get bunker hill after like 300 runs

[barren tapir]

augment will make her good again dont worry

[forest palm]

her retrofit was essentially a band-aid fix, and barely added any meat to her overall kit

she was strong for the sake of it, but that was not a high benchmark to beat

[barren tapir]

and even if it did she'd still be (even more) expensive for a merely good ship, probably

[atomic abyss]

by the metrics of the time, it was a strong retrofit
albeit not as broken as sandy's

[forest palm]

exactly

[atomic abyss]

that doesnt mean she wasnt the 2nd strongest BB in the game though...

richy came out about 7 months after warkai btw

[noble osprey]

Is it ok to use tier 6 and 7 general BP on Agir or save them for later ships?

[atomic abyss]

i would strongly discourage it, especially for agir

[spring bolt]

tbh even sandy before aug was like an AA stick for a while...

[barren tapir]

DR4 might be getting coining soonish

[atomic abyss]

agir is likely going to become coinable soon
would be a huge waste

[forest palm]

Agir getting F5 would be interesting

25 Luck alone is funny for a Cruiser

[barren tapir]

[atomic abyss]

richy also predates champy gun incidentally

[noble osprey]

Hmm how soon do you thinkm

[atomic abyss]

jan if we go by past years

[forest palm]

I'm actually mildly curious how much 25 Luck actually affects Agirs eHP

[atomic abyss]

that's not to say it will definitely be in Jan

[atomic abyss]

@slow fox hi

[noble osprey]

Hmm i see, ill save them for now then

[barren tapir]

25 lck is 2.5% evarate

[forest palm]

in the same token FdG one of the older URs still holds compared to SSR BBs which to this day SSR BBs are just barely inches away from her, so there's a plus for FdG

still though SSR BB power creep kind of felt like a crawl mid-ish 2019

[spring bolt]

now which one is first? drake aug or warkai aug?

[forest palm]

one would have to cope that either gets a meaningful augment

[barren tapir]

how would a DR aug work tbh

one of their skills become ++? lol

[full trout]

Is golden darkness a good bb?

[forest palm]

what if it gave Drake another Gun Slot

[spring bolt]

idk, give drake another mgm maybe

[undone plover]

she is one of the best gold BB
but all the UR bb except warspite are still better

[barren tapir]

torpedo change to DD gun slot with mgm+1

[forest palm]

either a Main, or Auxiliary Gun slot would be neat

[sweet delta]

drake augment hidden effect: moves gph coping and speculation elsewhere

[barren tapir]

or maybe make

Increase this ship's built-in secondary gun's critical rate by 20% (50%)

into

Increase this ship's critical rate by 20% (50%)

[full trout]

Ok thanks. I’m less than two weeks in to this game. So I’m a ways away from using UR units. Thanks for the advice 🙂

[jaunty glade]

avp fate sim 5 or coin cheshire?

[forest palm]

august f5 would be more important

[elfin hollow]

How much total event currency should I go for? I'm not sure if I'm considered a new player still (started around June but not too active/ignored things like ops) but it seems like the only things that really matter in the event shop is the ship and gear boxes. I know the general event shop guide, just now how much currency is worth grinding considering that guide.

[tame jungle]

Enough to get all gold plate milestones is a good place to stop

[viscid swift]

55k

[forest palm]

35k → 50k → 55k

min to max rec

[elfin hollow]

Okay thanks lads I'm at 44k so I'll try to end on 55k

[dusk thunder]

So uh, anyone else who plays on Bluestacks having this issue? Still works. Let me do my daily interactions with her and such. But even closing the game and re launching it doesnt fix it

[lean crater]

Hii, which event Aux (not augments) goes to which Toloveru ships ? I dont care if they're bad I just wanna put their designed gear, but Idk who

[atomic abyss]

then you're better off asking in #al-general

[sweet delta]

If nobody knows then try asking #anime-manga

[barren tapir]

no clue about that, gotta find a tlr specialist

[viscid swift]

from what I understand of the show after watching a few episodes they're all just inventions by Lala so they technically all belong to her

[low juniper]

Are any of the ships actually good though
Their skills look useful and the stats aren' bad

[barren tapir]

golds good elites meh

[tired condor]

i thought there was a way to auto opsi boss siren domains

[lean crater]

Kay '-'

[low juniper]

I wish there were samvaluations on them so I could get more detail about their performance

[barren tapir]

i can copy sam's style if you want

[tranquil rock]

what the hell

[low juniper]

Uh sure lol

[barren tapir]

one moment, i'll write up my anecdotal experience with the ones ive played with at least, in sam style

[low juniper]

I just find it weird how there's a doc for the event and a lot of it is empty space

[atomic abyss]

yami = one of the best gold BBs
nana = poi kai sidegrade
lala = drake sidegrade
momo = gimmicky but uh good

[low juniper]

Uh who's Yami lol
Golden Darkness?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[low juniper]

Idk I've never watched the show

[wary hawk]

yami just means darkness

[low juniper]

Is it because of her red skill

[atomic abyss]

her entire skillset is good

[low juniper]

As for Nana and Lala I don't have Poi Kai or Drake so I don't actually know what them being sidegrades is supposed to mean

[atomic abyss]

they are roughly the same level

and if you dont understand how good those are then

[low juniper]

I mean, I don't know what they do

[noble osprey]

Guys who should I research after completing FDR and Agir?

[atomic abyss]

anchorage first

[atomic abyss]

if that's the case, then what use would be the samvaluations?

[low juniper]

...To provide detail on what they do?

[atomic abyss]

that can be understood from reading the skill

[low juniper]

You're comparing them to ships I've never used so I don' know what that means for me

[atomic abyss]

what good is knowing what they do if you dont understand how good it is?

sam's explanations cant really explain how good something is

[barren tapir]

something like this

Lala is a damage-oriented CA with good stats and skills. Her personal damage is great due to mgm+1 CA guns and multiple strong barrages. Her bulk is good enough to main tank most content. She provides minor periodic debuffs, particularly for CVs with her AA reduction debuff, and a weak whirlpool suction like effect. Overall, she is a great ship.

Nana is a torpedo-focused DD with good stats and skills. Her personal damage is very high due to her barrages, and almost all of her damage output is torp. She should use a barrage-only DD gun. Her durability is fine, but not particularly noteworthy. Overall, she is a great ship.

Momo is a support-oriented CL with good stats and skills. Her personal damage is good due to her plant summons and barrages. Her bulk is fine, suitable to off tank. She provides a fleetwide damage and fp/trp/avi buffs every 20 seconds and some minor healing. Overall, she is a great ship.

[tranquil rock]

what does mgm+1 mean again

[viscid swift]

2 main gun mounts

[atomic abyss]

everytime you fire your main gun once, you fire it again

[tranquil rock]

oh thanks

[low juniper]

...What are you talking about? I'm talking about what they do on the battlefield and how they play, because I don't know how 'good' Drake and Poi Kai are, I have no idea what they do

[atomic abyss]

have you actually read their skills

[barren tapir]

did i do a good job i havent used yami so i cant speak about her anything beyond "decent barrage, high main gun efficiency, good stats and skills i guess"

[tame jungle]

Read the skills

[low juniper]

Thank you

[low juniper]

No, and that's why I was asking about them

[atomic abyss]

[tame jungle]

Begin with reading the skills then if anything is unclear come back

[viscid swift]

it might help to familiarize yourself with the ships first...
if you want to understand what they do

[atomic abyss]

maybe read the skills first before asking

we dont spoonfeed people here

[tame jungle]

except for this event’s puzzles

[barren tapir]

could also just try them out yourself

[atomic abyss]

there is little use in any explanation of how good a ship is if you havent even checked what they have in their kit

sam's stuff is supplementary

[low juniper]

...Isn't that exactly what any of Sam's evaluations do?

[viscid swift]

no

[atomic abyss]

no lmao

[viscid swift]

he doesn't explain a ship's kit in detail, it's just a general overview

[barren tapir]

Pittsburgh is a damage-oriented CA with great stats and skills. Her personal damage is great due to MGM+1 CA Guns and her Skill 1 barrage. Her bulk is also good enough to off-tank. Her Skill 1 also inflicts a special burn on enemies, which can then trigger Armor Break when your flagship BB/BC/BBV fires a Main Gun shot, which is nice. Her Skill 2 AA gun is nice, but her AA is still not at the level of other AA carriers. Overall, she is a great ship.

[low juniper]

Yeah and that's what I was asking first, Ender just compared them to ships I've never even seen

Aurora did what I was asking

[barren tapir]

i copied the style of his most recent samvaluations at a glance

[atomic abyss]

[low juniper]

A general overview was what I wanted, not sure why it's hard to understand
I was gonna get to reading their skills anyway but I wanted to know about performance

[sweet delta]

Lala is like drake. Drake is a great ship. Lala is a great ship.

[atomic abyss]

and sam's explanation doesnt explain their performance at all

what does "great" even mean?

[barren tapir]

tbf, "golds good elites meh" is about their performance, albeit very tldr

[sweet delta]

Worse than amazing and better than good

[atomic abyss]

everything sam writes is relative

relative to what?

so lala is great because she's comparable to drake, which is a great CA

[barren tapir]

usable in some endgame content is how i take it. whereas 'good' is very situational in endgame content/difficult to use there but can be carried, and 'amazing' is good in most endgame content

[sweet delta]

Relative to all his past evaluations indeed

[barren tapir]

at least from reading his stuff and comparing it to the various metas for endgame stuf

very unscientific i know

[sweet delta]

Actually aurora Lala should be amazing, not great

[atomic abyss]

lol, lmao even

[barren tapir]

nana too

but tbf "amazing" in 2021 is typically "great" or "good" in 2024. cos powercreep.

[tame jungle]

Aren’t these also not updated lol

[barren tapir]

also better to be conservative with prelim evaluations

[viscid swift]

yikes that makes me feel old

[atomic abyss]

and this is why it's rather daft just to look at sam's evaluations blindly without understanding the context or even looking at the ship's kit

[sweet delta]

Yeah they're not updated. If they won't be updated then maybe it's better to add a tier better than amazing for current URs...

[tame jungle]

Feel like the guy already dipped long ago anyway

[barren tapir]

at least i got momo right

[viscid swift]

not like there are gonna people lining up to confirm these anyway, just not enough interest for that to be done quickly

[barren tapir]

also most collab samvaluations of golds are 'great ship' so worst case i shouldnt be too far off

[remote quarry]

How many flapjacks from the gearlab would you say I need for endgame? 6?

[atomic abyss]

recommended at least 4-5
exact number depends on the specific carriers being used

[spring bolt]

just stick to specific content and don't go "in general" i guess, on top of comparison
like:
drake can function as tank role up to ch 13 while having good dps to do the basics like clearing trash mobs and deals some nice damge to bosses, compared to newer CA/CB, her tankiness and dps are somewhere among top of average tier and bottom of top tier when ch 15 is the final chapter

[viscid swift]

yeah that would be the gist of it, "general" as a concept doesn't really mix well in AL

[forest palm]

comes down to how you define it which that just gets messy

[viscid swift]

yeah,I get the impression though that when people say general they think of something in a similar vein to a "go anywhere do anything machine"

[spring bolt]

tbh "in general" is more like... for the future imo
i mean you can always judge a ship's performance according to her actual performance in the field, but only future contents are as vague as "in general" and you have to guess everything about it

[viscid swift]

yeah that's definitely part of the issue

[warm river]

Also aside from where you use them equip and who you pair them with can greatly effect how good a ship actually ends up being in my experience so it often comes down to the individual player's understanding anyways. Pretty much the only thing that needs actual clarification or testing is usually skill effects that are vague like "a special barrage"

[vale spindle]

Im just future proofing for drake augment trust

[dusk thunder]

Thats what Im saying. It works fine on my phone. But on Bluestacks it does this every time lol.

[outer schooner]

Do we have to complete every mission to get cruise level 100?

[atomic abyss]

no

[hollow gust]

U only have to do up to like week 6 or 7

[misty tree]

Finished my cruise pass week 4 i think

[hollow gust]

I guess it dep on how much EX u finished

[dusk thunder]

Week 4 or 5 is about where I finish normally as well.

Though that depends on if we get a banner or not during the first 4 weeks.

[eternal basalt]

If you pay you even have to do less since you get 1500XP right there

[slow fox]

+5% eHP

[dusk thunder]

Yeah when I say I finish at week 4 or 5. That includes the paid for part of the pass for the bonus.

Does anyone know if her affinity is lost if I do this? Im still having that issue where she just doesnt load right and I wanna try redownloading the assets. Cause theres nothing to repair when I try to repair from the settings.

[ocean orbit]

is it worth to clear same stage in event?

for stones

[earnest crag]

Is there a faster way to get rid of this excess oil besides of 3x repeat sortie campaign missions? Because I am unable to complete easy mode quest for newcomer

[eager mulch]

You can buy dorm food

[earnest crag]

Oh okay thanks

[viscid swift]

not that I would to be honest

[viscid swift]

yes it is worth farming the event for event points

[eager mulch]

I wouldn’t either

[dreamy blade]

honestly just ignore those newcomer missions for now, you will complete them naturally and you'll wish you had the oil later

Just keep going through campaign

although i would consider doing that 1200 oil-cost commission you get once a day if i were you

[keen sable]

It's worth to repeat T5. Everything else depends

[shell willow]

does the level of the ship with the crossfleet barrage matter?

[keen sable]

Twice

[harsh dove]

for cats in OpSi, if they have an ability that specifies the entire fleet, does that count for every single fleet or just the one they are assigned to? Everys skill states "Whole fleet" but i'm not sure what exactly it means

[vale spindle]

yesn't
the STATS of the ship with the crossfleet barrage matter, and level affects stats

[shell willow]

i see, thx

[dreamy blade]

only the one it is assigned to, skills that are crossfleet will specifically mention "fleets this ship is not in"

[harsh dove]

gotcha, thank you 🙂

[dreamy blade]

but i dont think any cats have crossfleets afaik

[queen jackal]

does collection or rigging analysis give more gear prints

[dreamy blade]

rigging is the best for gear prints

collection is one of the worst besides basic research

[ivory linden]

iirc collection gives specific prints so if you're going for that, take it. But rigging is better overall

[eager mulch]

Akashi has a crossfleet in opsi

[dreamy blade]

not that kindof cat

[queen jackal]

i meant the non specific collection

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[opaque karma]

how to get all the augments for collab ships

[daring turtle]

I might just be dumb but how do you level stars with a lab ship

[eternal basalt]

^

[eager mulch]

Dev10, 20, 30

[daring turtle]

and that's just with getting blueprints for them?

[eager mulch]

yes

[daring turtle]

ah gotchu thanks

[barren tapir]

bit more detail

[opaque karma]

thanks

[ocean orbit]

im 30 level so t1

[storm heron]

[versed dagger]

any opsi fleet recomendations?

[crisp raven]

even more details. you can tap on the "gear" furniture" and "aug" tabs on the top rightish to see what you have, what youre missing, and where each item is.

[crisp raven]

for opsi mob, unikai +5 leveling ships. exp is so low, that it isnt worth worrying too much. just dont let your fleet die. Bosses are different. you want to build around enemy armor, so thisll come down to what ships and equipment to have. you typically want 1 battleship fleet, 1 aircraft fleet, 1 mob, and 1 filler/crossfleet fleet.

[versed dagger]

unikai?

[remote quarry]

Unicorn retrofit

[crisp raven]

unicorn with her full retrofit

[barren tapir]

[versed dagger]

thanks

[young lake]

Replacement for Portland

[full trout]

What are the best thing to spend gems on?

[versed dagger]

if f2p, dock space

[viscid swift]

for a free to play read #bot-spam /gems

[barren tapir]

is it ok to +11 an mk6

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't

[sharp socket]

no

[barren tapir]

pain

[sharp socket]

just save for mk7 and +13 that

[barren tapir]

i need a way to do 10% more dmg to elbing

[young lake]

would you say Adalbert is a solid upgrade from portland

[barren tapir]

im not sure a few more levels on lala and momo will be sufficient

[viscid swift]

you'll get another chance at her next year

[barren tapir]

im so close though

[viscid swift]

since you've already invested the bullins sure

[barren tapir]

i think ill be just a couple % short by the end of tomorrow if i dont upgrade gear

[eternal moth]

All of mine that I used were. It's up to you whether it's actually worth it.

[barren tapir]

i think +11 is worth if it gets me the win, but itll be debatable cos nagatom is like 50/50 i think? so 4% would be 2% overall dmg

[eternal moth]

At the very least they can be turned into mk7s to get the plates back

[barren tapir]

if i could have her, lala, and momo all do like 100k more dmg, with slightly luckier helena and burns i can do it

actually should i be using HE secondary guns on lala and helena to try and extend nagatom burns

[viscid swift]

which will cost you 2 more UR deisgn plans and a bunch of additional electronics

[barren tapir]

i used harbin guns currently but i have gold twin 127s for HE if it'd help

[viscid swift]

I don't actually know tbh, you could certainly try it

[barren tapir]

thanks to opsi i might be able to get lala and momo high enough, i've gone from 105 to 110 today and we have 1.5 days left

[old narwhal]

best loadout for fancy? is she even good (hoping)

[barren tapir]

good tank if avi dmg isnt too prevalent. decent anti-light dmg. an ok ship

12 pounder, 12 pounder, sail components, fruit ration/toolkit, and some gold eva aux she can equip (collab auxes, cosmic kicks, or beaver tag)

[old narwhal]

ty bless

[soft raft]

realistically she's collection fodder
In the first half of campaign where AA isnt as needed, it's easy enough that basically all ships can comftorably clear it

And then in the other half, her lack of AA capability is a much more glaring flaw (And you will most likely be working on or have better tanks than her)

[barren tapir]

she would work fine for w14. w13 mob too, boss less sure. w15 is a no-go

opsi works on all except cv stronghold/abyssal

definitely an option with complications, if you have better then you should use those. but she is fine enough in a lot of the game IF you like her

[old narwhal]

I do have better but I still want to build her up so it is what it is

[barren tapir]

tbh i wouldve tried fancy on elbing but i dont have her gear for damage so

shed prolly fare reasonably well tbh

[hollow sail]

vanguard tempesta are usable as a one-off in W15 in certain fleets (for the aux that gives ammo to avoid out of ammo fights)

[young lake]

what should i do if i get an extra shimekaze if ive already mlb'd her

[forest palm]

into the woodchipper

[ivory pawn]

Keep to flex, or retire for a bunch of specialized cores.

[young lake]

gotcha thanks

[ebon storm]

e

[tranquil rock]

can someone explain to me what “zombie” ships are

[forest palm]

basically ships that rely on a low HP mechanic that constently heals them

[hollow gust]

Indiana is a zombie ship? Uhhh anyway zombie ships are those with skills that heal you at low hp

[tranquil rock]

oh

[forest palm]

in AL zombie doesn't work too well because the recovery values aren't sustainable enough in high pressured fights

[tranquil rock]

wdym by low hp mechanic
like as soona s they get low they heal

[forest palm]

ya once they hit a certain HP threshold they will constantly heal for x amount, look at Minneapolis, or Phoenix if you want an idea of what zombie means

[tranquil rock]

oh

[eager mulch]

like monarch and Neptune

[barren tapir]

[viscid swift]

superheal be like

[opaque karma]

how do I spend oil without sortieing im at the cap and can tdo my comisions

[eager mulch]

conq actively 3D printing steel

[ebon storm]

For combat data collection does the exp gained count if i use a ship that is level 125?

[forest palm]

if you're proc'ing Monarch you're already fucked

[stark quiver]

buy dorm curry

[eager mulch]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[eager mulch]

I haven’t touched the British TT BBs yet

[storm heron]

me proccing monarch in w14 mob

[barren tapir]

using monarch

[eager mulch]

me proccing monarch in w9 mob

[elfin hollow]

monarch in the big 24

[barren tapir]

me proccing monarch for HMS tech

[forest palm]

clearly she'll get a good augment

[elfin hollow]

nah its joever just retire her

[toxic sandal]

how does chapter 4 unlock in opsi?

[timid loom]

w15 fleet help

[wintry folio]

is laffey retrofit worth for a beginner?

[stark quiver]

not before unicoren