gameplay-help

[barren tapir]

making them great tanks

[dreamy blade]

faction tech?

[viscid swift]

different number of fighters and different reload stats among other things

[dreamy blade]

and their rld stat

[glass basin]

oh so the FR takes into account RLD but not the skills right

[storm heron]

isn't that just the same as other ships that use rudders?

[viscid swift]

correct

[barren tapir]

her plants snapshot upon skill activation so you get 15s 100% evarate plants 30% of the time

[viscid swift]

oh yeah if anyone needs a repulse meta one shot comp that doesn't require oaths it now exists

[barren tapir]

idk if all other summons work that way, but momo makes great use of it considering her plants are on a 20s cd just like rudder

[humble solar]

are any of the lab girls still good? I have Goergia, and Seattle

[viscid swift]

pretty much everything PR3 and before except FDG is now fodder/tech

[dreamy blade]

are they dev30? theyre likely better than anything else you have

[humble solar]

only monarch

[viscid swift]

a lot has changed to say the least
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[barren tapir]

drek bad

[storm heron]

different number of fighter affect that?

[glass basin]

heard even lala is better than drake

[forest palm]

Cheshire doesn't even have good tec

[storm heron]

I thought the rof is per fighter

[humble solar]

i have all the girls from Atelier but goddamn I cant build them

[storm heron]

who

[undone plover]

@barren tapir this gun might be like 10% better on lala for elbing
if after levelling u are still needing some boost u can try making it
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_203mm_(Mle_1931)#Type_3-0
it needs the blue french box as a pre req tho
also dont make any more cheshire guns the T2 ord cost is not worth
stick to eugen gun it is fine for the most part

[viscid swift]

yeah, airstrike cooldown is basically a weighted average

[humble solar]

hood vs nagato

[barren tapir]

hood

[barren tapir]

ye i only made the one cos its fairly low rld with good dmg, for high uptime on her vacuum and bc i like lala, i wouldnt do it for any old ca

[storm heron]

rld stat only

[glass basin]

so for lala...how usable is she in opsi for CV fleet comparing to stuff like sirius (I have no potter, or kazegumo for ijn)

[weary gust]

Opsi bar is really low, harbiter is only thing that requires some optimizing.

[barren tapir]

her debuff is minor bonus honestly

[humble solar]

Is Soviet Russia good

[barren tapir]

her personal dmg seems pretty good and she can tank well, with the debuff as a bonus

[glass basin]

so...do i still have to use something like ariake for amagi-shinano-avp fleet

[undone plover]

if sirius both buffs are working i.e vs dd/cl/ca she will still be better probably
but can just use both

[glass basin]

you know, for triple IJN

[viscid swift]

Rossiya, mediocre

[atomic abyss]

Ideally, you use Kazagumo
But ariake if you lack her yes

[viscid swift]

you know it would be much more eifficient if you need help building your fleets to start a thread and post your dock

[glass basin]

so she's mostly just a decent tank that's prolly better than drake

[atomic abyss]

She's a tank that has good DPS as well

Though not a proper tank

[humble solar]

how are the DDGs faring btw

[glass basin]

so what are considered proper tanks
for now I have agir, azuma, eugen(prolly bad) and portland
Brest sounds good but she takes forever to raise

[atomic abyss]

Still ridiculously strong
If anything they're powercreeping each other

Eugen can be considered a proper tank, port wouldn't
Though she lacks use in any other area

[barren tapir]

anchorage is like the baseline for "proper" endgame tank i think

[humble solar]

should I build chang chun

[glass basin]

do you think she's decent enough for off tank position
or is she not suited for opsi

[atomic abyss]

Opsi mobbing is fine

[barren tapir]

i mean honestly i think with her debuffs lala is around eugen level..give or take

[atomic abyss]

I use rikka a lot for opsi mobbing lol

[glass basin]

yeah think I'll do anchorage after I coin FS5 avp

[atomic abyss]

If anchorage is considered a proper tank most of the CBs wouldn't be

[barren tapir]

then what is proper tank...115+? 120+?

[storm heron]

we should use agir for baseline of proper tank

[atomic abyss]

Most of the CBs have lower eHP than ancho lol
At least without VH

[barren tapir]

proper tank is napoli surely

[storm heron]

I mean given people did pr4 first

[glass basin]

so basically she's beefy and that's it
but maybe she usable in opsi main tank if lacking other options

[atomic abyss]

Ancho is what I'd consider to be one of the best tanks

And the ability to use the US manjuu is a huge plus in her favour

[barren tapir]

lala is 110 without debuff

[glass basin]

hopefully azuma is still decent enough for opsi or I've wasted coins devving her

[atomic abyss]

Azuma is definitely still an excellent tank

[viscid swift]

if we really wanna go that far then Eldridge is better than the vast majority of traditional tanks

[glass basin]

heard she's really good for laser bosses

[barren tapir]

so what's the threshold for proper tankage xd

[viscid swift]

her performance against repulse today was rather impressive

[storm heron]

out of my cbs, only eldridge survived strength

[barren tapir]

[atomic abyss]

If you ask my opinion the bar for proper tanks should be Eugen

[glass basin]

cheshire is prolly good enough for main story mobbing tank right

[barren tapir]

not in w15 i dont think

[storm heron]

up to ch13 ig

[atomic abyss]

In content where you'd actually use chesh, off tank ideally

[barren tapir]

she is 109.5

[glass basin]

yeah I'll just use her for AA

[barren tapir]

also prolly i would say proper tank 120+ ignoring self heal/zombie, bc i dont consider neptune a proper tank (123 including zombie)

[glass basin]

gotta use her and sandy in seperate teams
maybe slap in monty too

[barren tapir]

she can mobtank fine but burst dmg is still a problem i think

[atomic abyss]

120 is Eugen

[barren tapir]

eugen is 122 technically but yes it's around there

[viscid swift]

really Portland level tanks only get you as far as W13

[glass basin]

what is 120

[barren tapir]

id consider neptune slightly above port

[viscid swift]

even in W14 I don't really trust them on mobbing

[storm heron]

ehp I think

[atomic abyss]

Well in this channel

[barren tapir]

120% portlands

[atomic abyss]

We base our eHP on mebot's calculations

[glass basin]

so what's the baseline we are comparing to

[barren tapir]

in mebot we trust the neptune is sus to me

[atomic abyss]

And his calculatioms for eHP are a ratio to/% of Portland retro

[glass basin]

[atomic abyss]

Who is the most easily accessible baseline

[glass basin]

so basically eugen lasts 20% longer time than portland

[barren tapir]

tbh i thought jervis is a decent tank but by eugen metric she falls short

[atomic abyss]

Considering that barely any DDs outtank port...

[storm heron]

in solo context yeah

[barren tapir]

so she isnt a proper tank then tho

[glass basin]

so how many portlands would agir, brest and napoli be

[forest jewel]

hello is there any useful website that can recommend ships to farm for in the main story? i forgot how to play this game xd

[barren tapir]

napoli is like 172%

[atomic abyss]

Well you don't farm ships in main story
All your "newbie fleets" are stuff you can get from the guild shop

[storm heron]

is the jervis in the ehp considering all her skills fulfilled?

[glass basin]

legit

[viscid swift]

she's 114%

[glass basin]

also
why does it always give me well done when it comes to gem comms

[viscid swift]

but with like 50% variation on that

[barren tapir]

dunno but she is 115%

[humble solar]

NELSON NOW HAS RETROFIT??

[barren tapir]

oh i was off by 1

why tf is kala randomly light blue

[atomic abyss]

The left number is the eHP ratio to Portland
The right number is your 99% confidence interval

[glass basin]

wait ning and ping are that tanky?
or is it only when with yatsen

[barren tapir]

ngl i did not expect neptune to be so consistent, 28.5% is pretty darn good

[atomic abyss]

Only with Yat

[storm heron]

I mean jervis there is assuming main tank right? I guess so hence the 3STD values

[undone plover]

how come ehp increases with VH plating but we never use it

[humble solar]

is Kala Ideas and other Atelier ships good?

[barren tapir]

wait neptune is basically kron

[glass basin]

oh agir looks very tanky with AP

[viscid swift]

knock yourself out honestley

[atomic abyss]

It turns you to heavy armour
So there are cases where it can be advantageous or disadvantageous

[atomic abyss]

Namely, she'll tank shells better but do worse against torps

[dreamy blade]

if you want to tank with a medium armor ship instead of a heavy armor ship theres probably a reason for it

[barren tapir]

i still think the ehp chart over-favorably rates neptune based on her heal doe

[atomic abyss]

Ryza is good
The rest are decent - ok

[undone plover]

do u know what mebot bases his enemy damage composition as
like is it similar to chapter 12? or higher

[glass basin]

wait I thought it's a bad idea to use vh on agir
like isn't she already heavy

[barren tapir]

in practice i think nep is basically portland until her heal triggers

[atomic abyss]

She is, but the gear buffs Agir further

[storm heron]

I think for the ehp 3 it's 33% avi torp shelling

[atomic abyss]

And he has separate calcs for individual bosses

[barren tapir]

also sandy is 116%

[dreamy blade]

VH on heavy still reduces dmg taken

[glass basin]

so should I use VH rudder or beaver rudder on agir

[atomic abyss]

Rudder toolbox in most cases

[barren tapir]

sandy is that high bc she prolly reduces that 33% avi average to minuscule levels. still takes big torp/shelling

[glass basin]

um in opsi boss fights

[storm heron]

maybe more in w13, maybe less in w14

[barren tapir]

(but she is fairly durable for non-tank material)

[atomic abyss]

Opsi boss it depends ofc

[barren tapir]

116% assumes 33 split and sandy reduces avi dmg to negligible levels which inflates her ehp

but even ignoring that she is still gonna be like portland level i think

[glass basin]

what's the best general set up
I hate gear swapping lmao

[atomic abyss]

Beaver rudder then

"Why would you even have a VH armour" is the question

[barren tapir]

i want to see sandys ehp if it is 100% avi dmg ngl

considering she can reach absurdly high AA it can cut avi dmg by what, 80-90%? lol

[glass basin]

kinda bought it for azuma unironically

[storm heron]

idk how that would be possible, since 100% avi damage assumption could make sandy 500%+ compared to portland

[barren tapir]

its not possible im just curious how massively high she'd become if ranked by avi dmg lol

[humble solar]

maybe I should stop caring about retrofits when I dont even have a single nickel

[glass basin]

do you guys never use VH (is it bad in general)

[atomic abyss]

Mebot does have rough calcs for AA damage

[barren tapir]

she can hit 1k+ aa im pretty sure which cuts avi dmg by over 90%

[atomic abyss]

Sandy is so far ahead of even second place it's ridiculous

[storm heron]

but in that case you would calculate the AVI damage taken, iirc it's 150/(150+aa)

[barren tapir]

oh not over 90% it is 150 value used, but 1000 aa = 87% DR

[atomic abyss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460645783021289472/1260497678064943144/image.png?ex=674a15b1&is=6748c431&hm=ab45ce89716e21e4b22dd6a366dc7ef4825b4fba9c9839f7d4707b26aec08b3d&

[barren tapir]

and sandy meme can go to 1500+ aa which would be ~91.6% DR

[glass basin]

is daisen gun better than triple 410 on musashi

[viscid swift]

yes

[atomic abyss]

Yes
But you can skip investing in one if you already have a +13 trip 410

[storm heron]

portland is like what, 266 AA

[viscid swift]

I don't know if I would go that far

[glass basin]

only have a +10 410
guess I'll +13 a daisen gun then

[viscid swift]

certainly lower priority but well

[barren tapir]

tbf i was including 2 +13 radars for the meme could go higher with other ship buffs tho

[humble solar]

how old is the samheart guide? It doesnt have the UR triple 460mm

[glass basin]

what are high prio +13 gears in each category

[dreamy blade]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[viscid swift]

it's up to date

[barren tapir]

triple 460 is hella low priority cos it's hella niche

[atomic abyss]

Sam doesn't prio the 460 cos it's not a good gun

[dreamy blade]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[humble solar]

oohhh

[viscid swift]

and on there

[prime glacier]

is the seiren operation story long? I unlocked liverpool

[dreamy blade]

it is pretty long yes

[prime glacier]

ok then I will do a bit daily, I go back to event grind

[dreamy blade]

ideally you would want to finish it before the reset at the end of the month

[glass basin]

so even the ones not highlighted are still worth +13 right
just that they are lower prio than green and red ones

[prime glacier]

which is very soon

[atomic abyss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460645783021289472/1274300008698740736/image.png?ex=674a331d&is=6748e19d&hm=481e1e5faeedbebf0cd35d00c106a30462ba94a4d7b76f9b63097ec87547d155&

Eld retro is 21st if she was included in this list btw

[glass basin]

huh so champy gun is that good ya

[dreamy blade]

just do some opsi between event grind while youre waiting for morale recovery or you are out of oil

[humble solar]

ohh thanks

[wet prairie]

Damn is sandy better with the pr6 gun if I really need AA

[prime glacier]

I have a ton of oil + mail still, and have 2 fleets for event grind

[glass basin]

so how do I prio between vit, junker, ryusei and saiun

[atomic abyss]

At that point you're losing on damage so not a wise idea

[opaque gate]

is this any good?

[atomic abyss]

Whichever fulfils your timing for sync really
I prio the strongest (vit-2 and ryuusei) on the slot with the highest efficiency usually

[mellow cape]

Would this be okay for 12-4?

Loll I don't really have that many good options for Bayard

[glass basin]

so i prolly need to have a couple of each for timing flexibility

[humble solar]

i hate how the 460mm has 28s reload on Musashi but only 26s reload on Vanguard

[atomic abyss]

Yes
Skip the french backline tho

[calm panther]

What is hinden’s best setup?

[atomic abyss]

The short answer is double rainbow CA gun

The specific ones depend on enemy armour type

[viscid swift]

yes but don't use maxed ships for farming XP

[mellow cape]

Mm let me show my Bayard options

[viscid swift]

you also don't need a french main fleet

[atomic abyss]

That's probably one of the best french vanguards you can field tho

Only way you'd improve it is include a MLB mog

[glass basin]

how many 155 kais do I need for 14

[calm panther]

This ok?

[stark quiver]

Yea looks good

[mellow cape]

Dang jelly lol but let me create a tread

[spark ridge]

how strong and important is avp? do any other ships make her obsolete or shes always really good to have.

[stark quiver]

Good to have
Gets outclassed by nakhimov and implacable
She’s a slow support

[hollow gust]

Only ship that makes her obsolete are 2 rainbows , which you won't be getting anytime soon

[spark ridge]

suirely implacable gets a rerun next year

[gusty olive]

Is B7A Ryusei better than VIT-2 Mode CHange?

[stark quiver]

Timing side grades

[glass basin]

so bacially
avp is poverty nakhimov
and ark royal is poverty avp

[calm panther]

How big of an upgrade is avp to something like ark royal?

[stark quiver]

Better damage, more reliable slow

[gusty olive]

I'm raising AvP lol, just gotta level her and Ark I'll finally have reliable stop

[glass basin]

avp is complete stop but ark royal is a slow

so her consistency is better

[spark ridge]

what about fdg? is she outclassed nowadays or still also super important

[stark quiver]

Good to have still

[sharp socket]

avp is accessible implac
nakhi has a different teamcomp than normal CV comps

[calm panther]

Where do I use kear? Just got her dev 30 recently but not sure how to use her

[gusty olive]

USS CV fleet but no York2 rerun yet...

Kearsarge, York2 and Enty iirc?

[storm heron]

you can use kear yk2 enty, kear yk2 implac,

[gusty olive]

she atleast needs 1 USS backline perhaps

[glass basin]

so is nakhi only used when comboing with soyuz and hakuryu

[viscid swift]

Definitely not

[spark ridge]

can you buy bp for fate simulation with coins? or only buy for enhancing

[viscid swift]

if the ship has coining you can coin them all the way to FS5

[spark ridge]

oke cool, wiki only mentions coining for enhcnacing so was a bit confused

[glass basin]

but if you don't use her with soviet ships
don't you miss out on timestop from her second skill

[stark quiver]

You can live without

[sweet delta]

Fate sim is enhancing

[viscid swift]

you don't always need her to root

[stark quiver]

Eld is there so probably more than enough

[viscid swift]

she's still strong even disregarding it

[sharp socket]

sometimes slow is enough, and in that case eld is there which gives even more slow

[viscid swift]

it's Repulse so it was only needed for the first strike

[sweet delta]

people still have repulse available for testing?

[glass basin]

hmm ok
so basically she's just very strong in a vacuum

[viscid swift]

I did, 6 runs ago

[sweet delta]

There's no such thing as too strong

[sharp socket]

more stronk = good

[glass basin]

maybe I should just raise eldridge then
she slows and so good vs lasers

[spark ridge]

Do I need unicorn to carry low level main fleet, if I’m tryna xp farm main fleet? Bc then that’s only 2 slots which is less oil efficient than like 3 vanguard slots. Or is there a diff strat for farming main fleet ships

[calm panther]

Don’t need slow? I was using yk2, enty and implac

[viscid swift]

the strat is don't use Unicorn

[spark ridge]

And hope they don’t die? Or mainfleet generally less likely to be attacked if u have a good frontline?

[viscid swift]

in W12 on safe you can get away with a lot

[calm panther]

12-1 safe is super easy to do with most lvl 70 mlb ships

[viscid swift]

make sure they're well equipped and the main fleet staggered well and you'll be fine

[stark quiver]

if the target doesnt move much or if eld

[glass basin]

so how does this team sound for opsi
shinano-avp-amagicv
eldridge-ariake-helena

[zinc cave]

excels at Light/Med bossing compositions

[spark ridge]

What about 12-4 if I desperately need money lol. Also A) is avp or fdg more important to get first, B) I only actually have zep and zeppy so what’s the best way to get another iron blood main, probably need a BB right

[glass basin]

well, I try to replace eldridge with unzen when I get her

[viscid swift]

not quite as easy but still pretty trivial

[humble solar]

Which CVs are best paired with Shinano?

[wind hazel]

sounds ok

[viscid swift]

Amagi

[storm heron]

sounds like you need an average of level 105 ships to do 12-4

[sweet delta]

How good is kear against heavy in a BB fleet

[glass basin]

just to make sure: eldridge can main tank bosses in opsi right

[storm heron]

🧮

[sweet delta]

Not really hard arbiter

[humble solar]

Eh?

[glass basin]

aside from that

[sweet delta]

Aside from that opsi is easy and even Portland can tank

[stark quiver]

araike can be replaced with kazagumo, but looks fine

[humble solar]

Ohh I don't have her

[languid reef]

anyone know exactly why the ectl submarines tier list doesnt have tiers ex, 5, and n?

[glass basin]

yeah would definitely use kazegumo when I get her

[sweet delta]

Ask ectl server

[eager mulch]

ectl mentioned

[viscid swift]

can you even max limit break shinano?

[glass basin]

so who should I use as a main tank vs harbiter

[humble solar]

Already did

[sweet delta]

Who do you have

[sonic egret]

soo i just finished reasearch on AVP who should i do next, or do i just do anybody

[viscid swift]

well who else do you have to work with then

[barren tapir]

no EX because no sub is gamechanging compared to others
no 5 and N because even the shittiest subs is better than no subs i think?

[glass basin]

not really much

[sweet delta]

~~i usually use Sirius, Helena, or kirov meta to main tank hard arbiter ~~

[viscid swift]

it would be easier to start a thread and pst yoru dock at this point

[barren tapir]

lala spotted

[glass basin]

I was convinced to raise lala from someone saying she's a better drake

[stark quiver]

drake isnt good
lala being better than drake isnt much of a thing

[glass basin]

tfw collab SR is better than a DR

[viscid swift]

we've had gacha SRs outperforming Drake at least since Fredrich Carl

[glass basin]

welp I have no kirov meta, I wasn't playing back then
I SS'ed my CAs above

[sweet delta]

I do not recommend using kirov meta as main tank

You have aegir, anchorage, eugen, and lala

[stark quiver]

you use kirov cuz your battles end in a good 20s

[wind hazel]

what gear is this

[sweet delta]

Buffalo

No clue who would use that

[glass basin]

so basically I just pick one and slap on rudder beaver

[sweet delta]

You should pick more than one, since you have four fleet slots and should be using at least two

[glass basin]

so pick 4 and swap beaver tag around

[sweet delta]

You only need the best gear for arbiter. The rest of the month you can just keep whatever gear on them if you use them

[glass basin]

yeah maybe I'll just keep rudder toolkit on most of the time

gearswapping is such a fricking pain

[glass basin]

so basically no frontline can last more than 1 dps cycle

[stark quiver]

not kirov meta prob

other tanks can last

[glass basin]

are these three things and cat boxes worth farming past 55k for

[viscid swift]

up to you

[glass basin]

I wanted to farm but coin drop is so trash comparing to 12-4

[wind hazel]

if you're augment collector, yes

[sweet delta]

But event maps also drop gear skins

[glass basin]

fair

[wind hazel]

doing SP daily probably can farm enough for those anyway

[sweet delta]

who is Hethna

[glass basin]

so after completing Helena meta
who's the least useless dossier ship

[sweet delta]

Depends on what URs you have

[glass basin]

only urs I have are shinano amagi and musashi

well I guess sandy yuudachi and warspite retro are also rainbow

but yeah those are the only base UR ships I have

[sweet delta]

They're all ok one way or the other , worse than real URs

The carriers have good level 120 tech

[glass basin]

so i should do hiryu next?

[sweet delta]

Next dossier to be added is Algerie who is very much not good, and after her is Jintsuu who is very much good, often even better than URs

[glass basin]

heard she's great in pvp

[sweet delta]

Hiryuu is one of the easiest so that also helps you save oil

[zinc cave]

Hiryuu META is +2 CV Hit, Souryuu META is +2 CV RLD

[sweet delta]

Hiryuu meta is worthless in PVP, while hiryuu retrofit used to be great and is still decent if you're poor

[glass basin]

oh I meant jinstuu meta

[sweet delta]

Yes then

She's also the best in many manual EXs and good in a few meta showdowns

[glass basin]

will those past bp meta ships be added eventually

[sweet delta]

They will extremely likely end up like fusou and yama

[barren tapir]

would pick up augment cores if you dont have a good stockpile and care about unique augments otherwise easy skip

[glass basin]

yeah I don't have too many saved up but I'm bottlenecked by exp
guess I can always craft and keep them at base level

[storm heron]

when you buy to use something, use em at its fullest, otherwise just don't buy them at the first place

[wind hazel]

i will use my two 460 to their fullest

[barren tapir]

better to have stuff you dont need than to need stuff you dont have

[glass basin]

yeah who knows maybe we will have more ways to grind augment exp later

just like I have so many gold gear prints and dunno what to craft

[sweet delta]

Farm higher chapters for more augment exp and chips

[glass basin]

oh rainbow color gear
must be good

well probably decent in meme one shot setups

[viscid swift]

it'll be useful against Algerie META

[sweet delta]

Does "it" refer to Lala

[glass basin]

did they always give gems on LNY for the past years

[forest palm]

yes

[glass basin]

my dockspace in shambles after a few events and devving too many ships too quickly

[forest palm]

they really should make Research Ships not take dock space

[glass basin]

meanwhile most of them would be unusable until at least dev 25 ish

esp the rainbow ones take forever to dev

[barren tapir]

time to live in c1

[forest palm]

ew...

[barren tapir]

well that or 💳 if you run out of dock space

[glass basin]

if only gems comms didn't give me 7 well dones in a row...

[barren tapir]

it's gacha

[cunning bison]

best equip for brest? (pairing w alsace btw)

[zinc cave]

erm

The generic top of the line equip, double evasion aux, greatsword?

[chilly crow]

Anyone know how to do the last challenge for help me miss lala?

[elfin hollow]

What are ways to upgrade my oil/money cap?

[zinc cave]

#gameplay-help message my solution

[zinc cave]

Increase Commander level (just doing sorties) & Guild Tech upgrades

[vale spindle]

check pins for the solution

[elfin hollow]

Ah yes that's what I meant. not hte HQ thing. Thank you.

[soft raft]

Note that your actual resource caps are 25k Oil and 600k coins
whatever number you have is the soft cap before you cant claim from your HQ Buildings, and at one point, you can safely ignore those

[chilly crow]

Thx

[elfin hollow]

🙏

[elfin hollow]

thanks again!

[storm heron]

I feel like I can get a degree faster than to start ignoring merchant

[zinc cave]

Line should be fairly simple, don't forget to end in the correct direction

[barren tapir]

when do coin shortage stop

[storm heron]

shop

[sweet delta]

When you give up on cats

[storm heron]

and complete pr ship dp mortgage and get luck on event (wait that's not what mortgage means)

[prime glacier]

what do I need to do for this?

[sinful escarp]

give her basic life experience

but iirc there is a sort option for the activities

[zinc cave]

show her how to do taxes

[storm heron]

search "ask your tb problems here"

cause I forgot how to link a thread

[elfin hollow]

when it comes to pr ships once all that remains is grinding exp and I'm not in a rush to get the ship, should I just move on to the next one? since each ship takes a whole week to unlock all research.

[zinc cave]

#gameplay-help message

[sinful escarp]

for me i just finish the ship

[prime glacier]

there is none available :)

[storm heron]

I mean sure, it's totally up to you. If you have 3 level 80 iron blood fodders that you want to use in T5, then switching and start grinding is better, otherwise if you have no oil for now and would stop grinding until the ship is finished (or your other ships are not ready yet) then just waiting is a better idea

[zinc cave]

Up to you really

If you want/need a ship, finish it or whatever, there's no necessity here

[sinful escarp]

yeah, and the progress doesnt reset so its really just up to you whether you want the ship now or later

[elfin hollow]

is there any reason not to immediately use the combat exp items to speed things up for that also

[barren tapir]

you want to convert those into protocore

[storm heron]

protocore for rainbow weapon which is much more valuable

[sinful escarp]

its more worth it to convert them and buy the rainbow gear

[elfin hollow]

damn i had a feeling lazy wasnt gonna cut it

[storm heron]

imagine being behind by 1-2 rainbow weapon per month because you are lazy

[formal thicket]

Hello, anyone knows what cost limit means here

[storm heron]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[formal thicket]

Thank you !

[elfin hollow]

Well if collection is the only thing I really care about, just how serious do I need to be?

[zinc cave]

The only important thing would be stocking piling coins and cubes for pulls

[viscid swift]

well if you care about collection you need to clear all of the main campaign stages, so quite serious

[zinc cave]

You will have to participate in guild activity for the guild tokens for some, Exercise for some from the Merit shop

[zinc cave]

Oh hm, that's true forgot about drop only

[barren tapir]

the rainbow protocore is one time only

[elfin hollow]

can i ask how to get full star hard mode 1-1

[viscid swift]

turn off clearing mode

[elfin hollow]

and every lv

[storm heron]

opsi and research uptime

[elfin hollow]

i need to defeat 3 escort fleet but there is only one and its boss

[viscid swift]

^

[zinc cave]

You can leave the sortie before you clear the boss to rack up the escort defeat count and it wont use up the attempt

When clearing mode is turned off*

[storm heron]

^ just do this Lemonn

[elfin hollow]

alr thanks

[zinc cave]

All the newer campaign stages introduce a gold drop only ship so yeah you will have to raise a decent fleet to clear that content

[stark quiver]

collection requires clearing hardest content in game

[elfin hollow]

Is 15 really hard?

[storm heron]

[viscid swift]

yes

[storm heron]

no it's not hard, I cleared it first try

[barren tapir]

oh

[zinc cave]

Most of the game can be cleared without meta ships

w15 is part of the content that needs meta

or at least strongly recommended

[eternal moth]

Meta as in META faction, or meta as in top-tier?

[zinc cave]

the latter

[elfin hollow]

damn

[eternal moth]

I agree, to a point. As mentioned, chapter 15 will be really hard to beat unless you use at least some of the best ships

[elfin hollow]

okay, so how do people usually handle getting faction exp for pr ships. just run the node with the best exp return over and over again?

[barren tapir]

that or c1

[eternal moth]

Once you reach a certain point, it's just running 12-1 or 12-4 over and over with 3 of the correct faction's ships

[viscid swift]

farm W12 with 3 applicable ships that need levels

[zinc cave]

forbidden c1 tech

yeah just whatever highest xp return you can auto comfortably

[summer cove]

should i merge purple gear boxes into yellow ones?

[eternal moth]

You can't

[storm heron]

are you aware of the fact that your PR ships will be weaker than your purple ships if you don't have the blueprints?

[summer cove]

oh xd

[zinc cave]

yerp

[elfin hollow]

i dont think ive ever used a pr ship

[eternal moth]

Finishing the research missions is the easiest part of the PR grind. Getting the prints is where the difficulty/ time gate comes in

[elfin hollow]

like ops i usually just ignored them

[storm heron]

oof

I think ignoring opsi is worse than using up the PR EXP packs

[frank pulsar]

yea you miss out on a lot of plates (i play opsi 4 times a year atp)

[zinc cave]

dont forget to join a guild for gold plates

[storm heron]

I think the main selling point of opsi for newbs is the amount of gear you can get

[elfin hollow]

im in a guild since a guild requires a lot less effort

[zinc cave]

i sandbagged on joining a guild for a few years

[barren tapir]

💯

[zinc cave]

that was a mistake

[barren tapir]

free exp and better gear

[storm heron]

guild mostly give plates and guild currency

[barren tapir]

me levelling up my brand new level 1 ruppy in c1

[elfin hollow]

I guess it just feels so time consuming on top of the regular events

[humble summit]

hi guys, just wanna ask, any way to stop this from appearing during my strategic search? its affecting my full auto experience

[storm heron]

go to settings, turn on the "reduce tb guidance"

[eternal moth]

When you say C1, do you actually mean corruption 1 in OpSi?

[storm heron]

yes the CT name C1 farming

[barren tapir]

yes

[eternal moth]

But why?

[barren tapir]

free

[real jasper]

since momo has a skill base on number of hit, is this her best main gun? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Single_150mm_(SK_C/28)#Type_3-0

[storm heron]

lol

tell em aurora

[barren tapir]

1. free
2. levelling them to not have potential accidents in t5
3. reason is bc id rather save exp books for ships i dont actually want to play with (tech fodders)

[barren tapir]

yes imo

plygun may beat it but who knows without proper testing and i sure dont have a plygun yet

[humble summit]

how do u farm for xp in opsi? and can u farm pr in it?

[barren tapir]

her barrage is very big

and her plants are effectively 2 mgms tbh

[viscid swift]

if you're not frugal with XP packs, i.e. don't use them on ships that can be leveled in W12 you should pretty easily be able to book any ships you need to level 70 without issue

[humble summit]

thanks, for the time im playing i thought is reduce help in those puzzles

[barren tapir]

her barrage is 3 sequential heart-shaped decent aoe bullet shoots, the delay typically means some of it is guaranteed to hit something. as well as 3 sequential shoots of 3 torps.

very nice staggered damage

[storm heron]

don't forget to turn em on when you want to do the puzzles

[eternal moth]

I can't think of much that's more mind-numbing than C1 spam

[barren tapir]

[real jasper]

so what's your recommended gear for her?

[eternal moth]

Is this going to be the new 2-1?

[barren tapir]

i use this, bearing in mind that i am still a new player

[humble summit]

oh wait it is the puzzle thing haha

[barren tapir]

sorta? its not new, ppl have been doing it for years

[real jasper]

ty very much ^^

[barren tapir]

i dont rlly get the argument of it being mind numbing considering it's afk like pretty much all of azur lane content

[storm heron]

yes it is both puzzle and auto search iirc, it reduces the amount of time tb appearing

[humble summit]

can you still farm for pr once ur ship is 125

[eternal moth]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[barren tapir]

you make positive ap return over a long period of time, free exp while morale is regenerating, generate commissions (oil/cube/gem), and that ap means slightly more gold plates etc, at the end of the month

[storm heron]

yes, not recommended though unless you're doing opsi strategic

[spark ridge]

wait, muse ships count as the faction of their original ship? neato. but thye dont give fleet tech do they

[eternal moth]

Correct on both counts

[humble summit]

so after turning that off i hope the pop up which ask me to go back for loot doesnt appear or smt, cuz i was going to try finish opsi for this mth in 3 days, always had those msges in explorable maps and its annoying af

[barren tapir]

battles in c1 are also so short that it isnt even thaat bad exp/hour

it makes completing cdcs very easy if you're at the pc anyway

completing cdcs while not touching your oil much or running your ships into the ground, that is

[storm heron]

turning that on you mean? yes it will not give any unavoidable popup, the only thing that can interrupt you now is the fog and the akashi (optional)

and some other, very rare, weird things

[barren tapir]

avg battle length with no preload is 10s (uni is a waste for this, but does speed it up by around 3-5s)

[humble summit]

ya i dont want like the pic i send to happen again, i asked my friend how he could full auto with strategic search and he doesnt seem to know. another thing i wanna ask is if i turn on auto exchange, does it exchange stuff from akashi?

[barren tapir]

no exchange is for siren data loggers and siren caches iirc. akashi is specifically 'mysterious merchant'

[storm heron]

nope, if you meet akashi then it's good since you can get a lot of APs

[barren tapir]

fun fact, if your fleet when autosearching stops on the square of a siren data logger you'll get stuck there

[humble summit]

im cooked, i missed out on alot, thought it will auto exchange

[storm heron]

if the pic it's just turning ON the "Reduce TB Guidance" switch

[zinc cave]

different

[barren tapir]

speak of the devil

[zinc cave]

exchange is for things like this

[spark ridge]

whats trophy rule

[storm heron]

only ender knows

[barren tapir]

#trophy-room message

[humble summit]

ur at least lv 100no?

[zinc cave]

first week of new event, if u wanna flex a drop etc. it goes into #trophy-room to reduce spam

[barren tapir]

2.5 months

[spark ridge]

but now if i get a drop i can post it in general if i wanted to without getting banned?

[humble summit]

2.5mths can get u to 100+?

damn hard grinder haha

[barren tapir]

there was 2x exp event until level 80 when i started

[cunning bison]

ty

[storm heron]

The rule is basically
TrophyImage -> Posted in Not trophy room -> is the first week of event -> warned

[viscid swift]

commander XP increases exponentially

[barren tapir]

c1 is also nice for commander exp i did lvl99 to lvl100 in one day for the array daily

[viscid swift]

for refference a few years back they released some stats and basically only 0.8% of the EN player base was above commander level 135

[stark quiver]

0-100 is kinda ez
100-130 was a long grind

[barren tapir]

c1 stops giving relevant cmdr exp at ~120, then it becomes snail

[viscid swift]

and since then I've "only" progressed to commander level 148 from 136

[stark quiver]

brings the question of how some are 180+

[barren tapir]

the last important upgrade is at 105 right

[zinc cave]

yeah max lecture hall

[barren tapir]

ive seen high 160s but 180 sounds unreal

[viscid swift]

one CN guy has reached 190

[barren tapir]

did bro 2-1 for years 😭

[snow radish]

is there a way to disable the "ships exhausted" notification that's stopping my auto runs?

[viscid swift]

no

[barren tapir]

i mean after a certain point 2-1 or c1 becomes the fastest exp because all content gets -90% exp

[zinc cave]

no it exists for a reason

[atomic abyss]

no, because you shd stop your runs entirely by then

[storm heron]

if they do then it will be OP

[atomic abyss]

you're losing exp

[stark quiver]

who

[zinc cave]

xp is halved at 0 morale

[barren tapir]

in campaign/event at 40 level gap you get -90% and in opsi it's 60 level gap. after that, spamming super quick fights is the fastest commander exp besides actually playing your dailies instead of skip

[viscid swift]

it would be nice for B1 farming

[snow radish]

Ah I see

[storm heron]

there's a case when you don't care about morale and affinity

[zinc cave]

you also lose affinity doing sorties at 0 morale

[barren tapir]

so i bet that 190 guy does cursed farming

[humble summit]

how u farmed so fast lol

[barren tapir]

since he wouldve stopped gaining even 50% commander exp from ch15 at level ~170

[humble summit]

i mean i dont care abt commander xp that much, just wanna know

[zinc cave]

no one knows

[viscid swift]

it wouldn't have been quick, that takes years of hard play

[atomic abyss]

i imagine its opsi farming

[eternal moth]

I'd honestly guess that he's macro farming and just hasn't gotten caught

[barren tapir]

years of 2-1 and c1

[zinc cave]

that skk is cracked out of their mind

or just a robot, either way

[barren tapir]

cos like i said, after a certain level, almost everything you can fight would be reduced by 90%

then it becomes how many battles per hour you can do and nothing else lol

[humble summit]

so u have a low oil fleet?

[zinc cave]

c1 is OP:S not campaign

[sweet delta]

We're not level 190

[barren tapir]

i think many hardcore players have some low oil shenanigans

[real jasper]

if you keep loosing affinity, what will happen?

[humble summit]

im impressed that u farmed that hard

[storm heron]

nothing

[barren tapir]

outside event i made a low oil 6-1 fleet as best i could without any crossfleets, for cursed purple plate farm

[zinc cave]

you lose the stat increase from affinity

[barren tapir]

erebus cassin downes z20, and sara+z46 (could be cheaper, but idc really) for boss

[storm heron]

can you still play the love line if you bring down a ship to 0 aff?

[zinc cave]

through the archive, yeah

[storm heron]

or is it just locked?

[barren tapir]

i think next major event i will try b1 farming

tho tbh d3 and spam opsi c1 could be just better

[viscid swift]

why not B1 and C1 spam

[humble summit]

i had a 1300+ days of inactive pic somewhere when i came back to play

[real jasper]

no I just want to make two lv70 common girls to make 3 oil farming, so they can keep going with 0 affinity right? Slave girls?

[barren tapir]

maybe a mix of all 3

[barren tapir]

ok so like affinity stat bonus actually still helps for that

and you can make multiple of those fleets

[storm heron]

calling slave is such an ancient thing

[zinc cave]

yes we call them employees nowadays

[barren tapir]

idk, my opsi girls slave away constantly but at least they're super happy while at it

[viscid swift]

not that you would care for XP on those ships but you still have to content with the pop up which renders that idea a bit pointless

[humble summit]

opsi doesnt cost morale right

[storm heron]

time to make a game-feedback about the notification so I can employ my mahans infinitely

[stark quiver]

they get paid with dorm food and good gear

[zinc cave]

nope

[barren tapir]

try rainbow bulin if you have her augment

3 oil tho but its good for higher lvl low oil

[viscid swift]

not sure if that actual has practical uses though for me to bother with

[humble summit]

is a low oil fleet essential, i see alot ppl using it

[zinc cave]

no

[humble summit]

oh ya and how do you get character server roles

[sweet delta]

Id wager less than 1% of players do low oil farming regularly

[storm heron]

but then how would that be implemented, would the low morale notification only show up once per day

[humble summit]

its normally for clearing events or

[sweet delta]

Clearing isn't farming

[sweet delta]

Ask #al-general

[zinc cave]

#role-claim for TLR event

[barren tapir]

its a thing you do if you want to for shits and giggles

[storm heron]

[storm heron]

no way it's for shit and giggles if most people that know what they are doing uses them right

[barren tapir]

like this event ppl do t3/t4/t5 low oil to get more gearskins or be somewhat more optimal coins/oil while getting event pts (bc oil saved -> go to 12-4)

shits and giggles as in it's completely optional

[storm heron]

Oh I thought it literally means 💩 and 🤡

[barren tapir]

you shouldnt be low oil stuff unless you actually want to, and only if you've actually gotten yourself established first (reach w12, at least 12 ships reasonably high level 110+ to do content with)

[humble summit]

i have cleared the monthly normal opsi boss, cant seem to clear the hard one, do i just continue using ap for secured place for t2 bps ?

[barren tapir]

for me it was fun figuring out the puzzle of low oil ch6 considering my only crossfleet is amagicv

[viscid swift]

not to mention pretty much all of these invlolve using UR cross fleets

[humble summit]

and will i get more t2 or t3 after clearing normal boss

[barren tapir]

which i ended up not using since it didnt really do much

erebus and 3 commons for mob, sara (could use ranger mlb honestly but waifu) and 1 common for boss. about 50 oil per run, gets some purple plates for cheap and proc comms when i have nothing specific i want to grind

[humble summit]

wym purple plates?

[barren tapir]

the things you use to upgrade gear from +6 to +10

[humble summit]

i need to farm the purple plates

i had 1.5k, did alot of gear upgrades for these days now its down to 900, the one for repair toolkit

[barren tapir]

well its only an issue if you like giving gear to every ship you use and dont swap much

[humble summit]

i dont like swapping, too tedious xD

[barren tapir]

again, not something i recommend to do lol it is my own thing

[viscid swift]

I've got a few dozen and still have to swap

[humble summit]

question, can i still get the gear blueprint from anywhere after i cleared all explorables and normal boss

[viscid swift]

it's an inevitability, you'll just have to get used to it

[mellow cape]

Researches lol

[humble summit]

i mean those for gearlab

[barren tapir]

i have a shitload of toolbox already it's upgrading them all that's the issue, but i'll get to it eventually

[humble summit]

besides toolbox, isnt there alot of good gears in gearlab?

how do u get enough bps for em

[mellow cape]

Again, researches lol

[storm heron]

first time hearingtoolboxx from gearlab

[viscid swift]

Trust me, you'll stop caring after a certain point

[mellow cape]

You can get pr guns and etc from researches and build them in your depot

Just .. takes a month or so

[humble summit]

no, im just exampling gears like this

just wanna know any other way to get ordanance and design plans

[barren tapir]

the hardest/most annoying one is definitely rudder so many ship need it and i only have 2 it is such a pain

[humble summit]

whats that

[stark quiver]

rudders are gud and in demand

[barren tapir]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Improved_Hydraulic_Rudder this

i dont have enough for lala momo neptune portland

let alone sirius helena and god knows who else. anchorage soon. i have TWO. they take forever to come home

[storm heron]

you can get the first half of both of those from opsi shop, the other half is luck from abyssals, cats, hidden zones

[viscid swift]

give it a few years

[barren tapir]

what and i cannot stress this enough, the fuck

[mellow cape]

Researches fr lol

[barren tapir]

how long

[humble summit]

i only have 5

[barren tapir]

i swear im doing Q as often as it pops up

[mellow cape]

I spent 3 years stuck in a 12-4 fueled research

[barren tapir]

ah years oof

[viscid swift]

if we wanna go there

this is basically 3 years or so of regular research of rudders

[mellow cape]

Yeah looks about right LOL

I also sit on a similar amount

I feel like I've been stuck in an azure lane hell loop lol

[viscid swift]

point is though, they don't come quick

[barren tapir]

the envy

[viscid swift]

3 years and I still "only" have 50

[stark quiver]

should i +13 hp auxes or catapults

[barren tapir]

so that is about 1.4 per month

i am underperforming

[humble summit]

any research or any specific series

[mellow cape]

At least you understand the game more than I lol. I mindlessly follow guides

All series can drop them

[storm heron]

I don't even need that much rudder

[viscid swift]

if you're really desperate you can farm their BPs from Mirror Involution WA

[viscid swift]

not that I would reccomend it

[mellow cape]

What's the percentage

[barren tapir]

tbh this sounds like something i might do during dead weeks

[mellow cape]

I never knew they dropped

[barren tapir]

the droprate no doubt sucks tho

[viscid swift]

as per usual

[barren tapir]

well i'll file it away under a "maybe" if i have nothing better to do. good to know either way

[mellow cape]

When the same says, cruise mission s20 and s19

Is that season 20 and etc?

I'm looking at the battle ui

[atomic abyss]

yes

[mellow cape]

Shame on me for taking breaks

[humble summit]

what u guys think about z flag

[atomic abyss]

🚮

waste of core data

[thin haven]

Useless

[humble summit]

hi....

i bought this over 5 yrs ago when i dont know anything about the game lol

[atomic abyss]

if it was 5 years ago it was probably from the event itself

[humble summit]

i forgot but i had it for some reason

[stark quiver]

zflag useful for fleet power

[crystal flume]

how long attempts for pvp recover? I'm loving the exp eventho losing all the time

[atomic abyss]

you get 5 at 0000, 1200 and 1800 server time

[sweet delta]

Dang I missed the rudder bp flexing time

[humble summit]

show hahahah

[crystal flume]

ah so 3 times a day.. no wonder sometimes it's 10 sometimes it's 5.. thank you

[barren tapir]

my amazing 2

[storm heron]

ey there was fruitbuyer

[humble summit]

only have 5

how can i check my game join date

[sweet delta]

I don't even have 2000 washing machine bps yet

[humble summit]

2000???

[vale spindle]

the patch of the server anniversary theres an event that tells you
if you binded with twitter or other platform they might also show the date of binding

[bold stream]

Just get another momo??

[stark quiver]

He’s also been playing since the start of time, so figures

[barren tapir]

you lie you have 6

[gilded carbon]

so, wich Aux from this Event are good to go? And wich are less so.
Currently, i have been looking into the first heal one and the crescent offensive-Aux

[vale spindle]

no buy the shipyard prints

[humble summit]

sorry i cant count hahahah

[bold stream]

Which one?

[barren tapir]

DR > PR prints. maybe augment exp after, since that's hard to farm

[humble summit]

wym aux

[sweet delta]

@gilded carbon

[bold stream]

Thanks!

[gilded carbon]

oh, i havent seen that one yet, thank oyu

[spring bolt]

i just past 2k, 81 rudders

[humble summit]

these gear?

[sweet delta]

But you lose bps when you craft with them

[spring bolt]

i built them all

[gilded carbon]

yes

[humble summit]

ah ok

[gilded carbon]

event-auxiliaries

[humble summit]

which do i lb with my bulins first

[sweet delta]

Alsace or amagi

[atomic abyss]

alsace first since closest to mlb
then amagi

[sweet delta]

And use the Ulrich dupe but not bulins on her

[humble summit]

okei

[humble summit]

okeh

things just resetted back to opsi

[bold stream]

This is going away in 2 days... Anything I should buy here?

[atomic abyss]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[crisp estuary]

[bold stream]

I dont think I need independence yet... But I guess I will just save these for now...

[atomic abyss]

you will want her eventually
but prio are the shells

[sharp socket]

what do people usually buy with core data after getting all the good stuff

[atomic abyss]

anything they want for qol/collection
otherwise save

[storm heron]

chips and arrays

[atomic abyss]

well, besides those ofc

[sharp socket]

what do i keep saving for

[storm heron]

or da skins

[atomic abyss]

nothing

[sharp socket]

oh right theres skins alr

[storm heron]

core data, merit, medal, the big 3

core data to the point one even buy the zflag and scrap it for the 1 gold plate

[barren tapir]

theres some collection ship and skins after you get the important stuff

[humble summit]

i cleared everything but why still 83/300

on the exploration progress

[atomic abyss]

it takes about a year or 2 to get max stars, and that's with some luck

there's a lot of hidden objectives that can only be cleared on repeated runs

[zinc cave]

^

[humble summit]

oh so its a one time reward, i thought it refreshes every mth

[atomic abyss]

yeah 1x

[true kraken]

This place feel too peace since I left

[bold cove]

Waiting for new core data shop update?

[sharp socket]

i bought a ship, saw that they have bad tech and scrapped them

[stark quiver]

Oh yea ships with good tech
Buy those

[sharp socket]

still collection

[barren tapir]

poor girl

[stark quiver]

Get wasp
She’s cv rld

[sharp socket]

alr
my backlog of backlines to level was getting smaller

[storm heron]

mutsu 1 fp

[sweet delta]

Wasp may be farmable

[barren tapir]

you can grind wasp in war archives no need to waste core data

[stark quiver]

Not a waste really if you’re out of stuff to spend
I’m also lazy so that’s that

[viscid swift]

Dupes of the SRs to save bullins

[barren tapir]

well fair and true

still worth pointing out for others

[viscid swift]

Illustrious Muse alone has cost me 7500 so far

[stark quiver]

Btw for using gold selector plates would a +13 ply gun be better than 3 +13 converging tbs

[zinc cave]

[bold cove]

Are we gonna have new UR on next patch or just fill up event? May i ask

[atomic abyss]

we have no way of knowing

[barren tapir]

i'd sooner buy tempesta guns to equip every tempesta than that

[atomic abyss]

i dont think it'll be a UR since we just had a UR rerun tho

[sharp socket]

i was doing that for lµsty

[zinc cave]

you would get more mileage out of the 3 torps

[barren tapir]

man and ppl thought i was weird for buying 5 momos

[stark quiver]

this whole time I’ve been buying gun plates from guild

[viscid swift]

Well I'm also buying 5 momos

[barren tapir]

for guild i do half n half

[humble summit]

im 1 off from collecting all the chars aaaa

[stark quiver]

Cheeky fleet power grinding?

[storm heron]

I would too if I'm not allergic to the tiny paycheck

[viscid swift]

No, I'm trying to save bullins

[sharp socket]

maybe he likes momo but not enough to disrupt his tech farming

[viscid swift]

My goal is to try and MLB every ship i have right now

[barren tapir]

im stuck with tiny paycheck since i want gearskins anyway (i know the shop has them but 7k is skem)

[storm heron]

me choosing between the 100 gearskins I have

[quartz jungle]

I got all 5 Momos from Gacha/farming, no need to buy any

[sharp socket]

momo is in gacha?

[barren tapir]

event also good for purple plate

0.5% yes

[quartz jungle]

Yeah I pulled her twice lol

[barren tapir]

some people are lucky on pulls. others are lucky on gem comms

[humble summit]

wym tiny paycheck

[barren tapir]

t5 is low coin/oil

[bold cove]

Im trying to gain royal navy tech points to unlock Ply, too much Iron Blood

[upbeat wagon]

Which event stage should i grind

[barren tapir]

same 🤝

[humble summit]

im going ply after my pr 4

[barren tapir]

my route gonna be monarch > avp > halford > ply. monarch for some points and by then i should have enough. surely.

[humble summit]

btw ive cleared everything i think, do i just do strategic search on hidden or

[storm heron]

buy some adapts, do narby

[atomic abyss]

do your hiddens, your strongholds and abyssals

then do narby

[barren tapir]

c3 or c5 zone to burn ap or c1 to cycle ap for free exp (recommend burning starting now if you got a lot of ap)

oh did they not already do narby how can you tell

[atomic abyss]

there's also just an abyssal there

[barren tapir]

i also see a hidden i think

[atomic abyss]

thats abyssal

[barren tapir]

cant tell what color tbh im blind

[humble summit]

whats that

[barren tapir]

imagine buying adapts when c1

[bold cove]

May i ask, where can i find example fleets to do abyssal 5 in at least 2 run

[zinc cave]

narby = Normal Arbiter = boss in the centre zone

[humble summit]

i did the normal boss hard one i cant beat it

[atomic abyss]

we can give you fleets that do it in 1 even

but theres no point if we dont even know what you have

[humble summit]

normal one took me 7x going in after clearing resolve 💀

[barren tapir]

that's what i figured. the chest is identical looking for narby and harby afaik

[bold cove]

Okay i will make thread

[elfin hollow]

anything i should get here?

[storm heron]

CV, CL, Bulins, PurpBullins, SpecializedCore, BPs, skill books, dorm foods, ....

we don't know how much u have so no context

[wind hazel]

enterprise if you haven't MLB her, specialized core, gold bulin

[elfin hollow]

just starting out

[wind hazel]

just go grind medals and get at least these before grinding for more if you wanna

[storm heron]

enterprise > specialized core > gold bulins

yes yes

[barren tapir]

always get ship you want/need > spec core > gold bulins > DR/PR print > purples as needed > other shit

spec core very important tbh

[sharp socket]

does oxycola respond to fast clicking

[atomic abyss]

just press and hold...

[sharp socket]

it takes too long

im also lazy

[quartz jungle]

It takes like 1 min wdym

[atomic abyss]

it doesnt respond to fast clicking

[sharp socket]

alright then

[quartz jungle]

Unless your cap is like 100 k or something

[barren tapir]

just don't use oxycolas

[bold cove]

Abyssal 5

[sharp socket]

i stopped buying food long ago

[analog bluff]

This is good? i got em with the medals

[sharp socket]

dont gacha with medals

[atomic abyss]

all bad
even worse because requisition is a fucking scam

[storm heron]

wow

[analog bluff]

okok

[barren tapir]

yeah dont requestition

[storm heron]

ngl that luck was insane though, 60 medals for 2 SSR

[quartz jungle]

You are extremely lucky

[zinc cave]

that is some insane luck holy

[barren tapir]

luck good but used on bad thing

[zinc cave]

its fine

they're both very cute

[storm heron]

kent arethusa juneau shropshire repulse vestal kimberly cygnet craven tirpitz

[barren tapir]

fine for an established player, useless for a new player honestly, cos neither of those golds is more than meh imo

and this lost out on potential gold bulin or spec core very important things

[quartz jungle]

Did you just use 60 medals...

[storm heron]

just for testing

[analog bluff]

[barren tapir]

i farmed over 1k medal this month according to what i bought and it was barely enough to get everything i want/needed (2 ships, gold bulin, purple bulin, spec core, dr+pr prints)

[wind hazel]

well tbh he saved a lot of medals with that requisition LUL

[barren tapir]

total cost of what i bought is 1080 medal

true in the future long term its good save. short term could be if he misses out on spec core tho

[wind hazel]

we don't recommend it because it's a gamble

[barren tapir]

gamble with 95% to lose iirc

[brazen knoll]

how much xp is 100-105, 105-110, 110-115, 115-120, 120-125?

[storm heron]

if you lazy math

[analog bluff]

welp, now i will try to save more medals now, i used it bc i thinked that could work for the daily mission

[analog bluff]

ow... now i know its hard to lvl cap 125 my wife ( Musashi )

[quartz jungle]

Actually it's 33% chance to get a SSR, but odd definitely not in your favour

[agile harness]

From series 2, which PR is the most useful or at least, the best from them (PR, no DR)

[wind hazel]

just use her in sortie

[barren tapir]

oh, it might've been 5% per single pull not 10 pull mb

[wind hazel]

fdg>azuma>the rest

[storm heron]

cant even choose the ssr smh

[barren tapir]

oh it's 4% thats even worse

[quartz jungle]

4% per pull yeah

[agile harness]

I said only PR

[atomic abyss]

none

[wind hazel]

you got the answer

[barren tapir]

i was right just on smth else...their probability of winning 2 golds in 10 pull was 5% or so

[atomic abyss]

all the PR2 golds are brutally powercrept by non PRs

[wind hazel]

i'd probably put seattle>the rest>kitakaze maybe? idk they all seem trash by today standard, idk why you wanna rank them

[storm heron]

5.8%

[barren tapir]

gascogne, +2 bb rld iirc

[atomic abyss]

gascogne for vichiya tech first

[barren tapir]

5.2% for exactly 2 rounds to 5% checkmate

well that also

[agile harness]

I mean, I said not DR because I already have musashi so I don't need fdg

[atomic abyss]

no you'll still need fdg if you're missing other UR BBs lol

[barren tapir]

rank by tech usefulness

[atomic abyss]

but yes gascogne is the most useful otherwise

[storm heron]

gascogne > georgia > seattle > kitakaze

[barren tapir]

and a nice waifu

[atomic abyss]

georgia was BB rld?

[agile harness]

NJ may not be the best but I already have her at max limit

[atomic abyss]

NJ and FdG are around the same level lol

[barren tapir]

hit on collection which is nice, and 2 fp on 120

[sweet delta]

Gasc is quite useless when there's already izumo

[zinc cave]

2 FP

[barren tapir]

gasco is 1 fp on collection, 2 rld on 120

[atomic abyss]

i mean suchi

[barren tapir]

both are solid tech option, do gasco for vichya tech first

[sweet delta]

Oh its a tech ranking

[barren tapir]

seattle is AA collect and fp 120

[atomic abyss]

kita is DD FP tho - more valuable than CL FP

[storm heron]

kita hp and ddfp

[barren tapir]

kitakaze is fp collect and 120, nice for gunboat dd ig

yes id rank gasco => georgia > kita > seattle

[agile harness]

I mean, I don't really need any of the ships of series 2 since I already have much better ships but i just need to get one for the rookie missions

[storm heron]

gas > geo > kita > seattle

[atomic abyss]

if you need to get 1, get fdg

you need ironblood tech for agir/avp lol

[barren tapir]

[storm heron]

[agile harness]

I already have Hindenburg at dev 20

[wind hazel]

... if you just need for rookie mission just do any

[atomic abyss]

and it doesnt seem like you have soyuz/alsace/bis2

so fdg would fill up the last slot for your BB comp

[barren tapir]

kitakaze for hakuryuu tech

[agile harness]

I wish I had them but I not was when we're them event lol

[atomic abyss]

so all the more

[barren tapir]

tbh i somehow have no sakura tech any good sources for it?

[atomic abyss]

limit break the many many sakura ships you have from campaign

[wind hazel]

collect all the sakura PR ships

[atomic abyss]

and dude we just had 2 major sakura UR events in the last 2 months

[barren tapir]

[storm heron]

[atomic abyss]

you should have plenty of stuff to work on

[agile harness]

But, I really need fdg when I already have musashi and NJ?

[barren tapir]

well i have amagi ofc, the others are vg and smol tech tho

[atomic abyss]

you literally only have 2 rainbow BBs

[wind hazel]

do you have HMS Vanguard?

[agile harness]

Yes

[wind hazel]

less priority then

[atomic abyss]

then you'd use vanguard with them and use fdg on opsi mob

[wind hazel]

well opsi mob isn't really that big of a deal

[barren tapir]

oh i actually have a decent number i guess anyone of actual note?

[atomic abyss]

souryuu has +2 CV rld

ise fusou hyuuga and yama have BB rld iirc

[wind hazel]

the cats, haguro too

[atomic abyss]

shouhou also has CV rld

[barren tapir]

ty

[storm heron]

shoho soryuu fusou hyuuga yama ise hguro

wakatsuki fp

[wind hazel]

fr tho, go collect the PR ships. izumo alone is a lot of point

[atomic abyss]

what does haguro have lol

[barren tapir]

oh haguro is good right. eva

[wind hazel]

EVA isnt it

[atomic abyss]

mlb the blues and purples, and pursue izumo

[agile harness]

Is fdg viable in stage 13 and 14?

[atomic abyss]

fdg is comparable or even better than musashi in 14
13 is favourable to neither

[barren tapir]

IZUMO BAD THO! jk

[storm heron]

she was

[barren tapir]

[zinc turret]

what should i get ?

[storm heron]

how many you got for each?

[zinc turret]

0 for those 3

[storm heron]

[wind hazel]

well, are you done with champange gun and bf109g etc?

[glass basin]

plymouth gun and 457 are both good

[storm heron]

well the 457 is definitely above 234 because when both are craftable, 457 has more damage gain

[sharp socket]

the usual order is q152 > 457 > 234

however if you need a mobbing gun for w13+ then 457 is best

[storm heron]

I guess just grab the q152 since every other options are permanent

q152 is like 1 year+ later to be craftable

[zinc turret]

So far i use mk7 for alsace , 406mk6 for fdg and naval gun for my vanguard for my bb team

[wind hazel]

@zinc turret

idk why you guys are so fixated on the rainbows when we don't know whether he have enough champagne gun etc

dont ruin his core lol

[plain saffron]

B-but rainbow

[zinc turret]

I think i didnt have any

[wind hazel]

good, start buying the PR3 blueprints

[sharp socket]

protocore is really hard to ruin unless old player and did catchups for catchuping

[wind hazel]

it will halt their progression

[plain saffron]

Kinda easy to ruin

[storm heron]

[plain saffron]

I doubt any normal player first thought is to analyze all the catchup

[fiery raptor]

protocore well allocated is like unlocking hidden potential in new face less gear that become armory dust magnets
like my sanrui guns and 3 fucking monarch guns

[sharp socket]

why wouldnt they when pr1-3 are coinable

[zinc turret]

this one ?

[fiery raptor]

not to mention all the 114 twin dd guns

[plain saffron]

Because they'll use it on ship instead

[glass basin]

honestly I'd craft champy gun over buying with cores

[sharp socket]

whyd they use on suboptimal ships

[plain saffron]

Normal average players do not have knowledge of people in gph

[atomic abyss]

^

most people would just use them directly and not exchange them lol

[sharp socket]

then they ask before doing things?

[atomic abyss]

no they straight up dont ask