gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

Bismarck gives tirp a 40% dmg buff

[winged barn]

What the best counter the suicide boats and mass production shiip to W14, since uf u saw correctly they have at 14-3 10k hp

[storm heron]

cruise pass, ur event, first UR mission, 5000 prototypes, 1000 medal, 1000 black friday

[gilded carbon]

right...

[atomic abyss]

You use BBs with the 155 Kai or the twin 137

[gilded carbon]

wich kinda defeats the point, yeah, unlucky for her

[spring bolt]

she's benched, already lv117 mlb and someone told me one fleeting with her is just too easy...

[atomic abyss]

Her augment removes the restriction partially
And now the 30% buff remains with all non IB BB/BC

[crimson glacier]

you mean it doesnt remain with non IB

[sweet delta]

mlb musashi in one week?

[winged barn]

The suicise and mass ships weren't never a problem in previous chapters but at w14 they got insane hp and charge

[crimson glacier]

you need IB for it to stay

[storm heron]

ender's double negative

[spring bolt]

it's the other way around... IB bb/bc with tirp and she keeps the damage buff

[atomic abyss]

There was this one guy
Who came into #game-feedback
Asking the staff to "REFUND MY TIRPITZ SKILL BOOKS"
Precisely because of the skill

[atomic abyss]

Oh my bad

Wait doesn't that mean derpitz augment has a 70% dmg buff with biscuit
Wtf?

[storm heron]

worth?

[gilded carbon]

yikes. Not that surprising but still

[atomic abyss]

Now if Bismarck herself wasn't bad... Maybe we'd cook something

[storm heron]

I wanna sober up fromm cubing

[gilded carbon]

Bismarck Retro when

[storm heron]

but ok since 2 yes es

[spring bolt]

1 from musa event milestone, 1 from new player UR bulin event, 1 for cruise pass, 1 from specalized core

[atomic abyss]

I mean I would do it for rainbow researches

[storm heron]

that's all in 1 week?

first time hearing cruise pass completable in 1 week

[spring bolt]

eh, yeah... it wasn't that hard since it's not beginning of the pass

all 8 weeks of missions are unlocked for me at the very beginning

[bold stream]

So I played before you did? I played like Nov 5.. tempesta banner.. I also have mushashi mlb lv 115+

[spring bolt]

Iirc I started 3 or 4 days to musa rerun ended so it was really a rush...
Anyway the point is not about speed as real new players won't have this efficiency and it's normal if it takes you 3x time... And your dock looks much better than mine iirc

[storm heron]

dfgqsb gonna top you though

maybe 2x the time if you keep asking here

[bold stream]

Wow! It means I could have done more. I think my main issue was trying to use a lot of ships.. which as a newplayer is quite interesting... And fun.

[still nest]

How many flapjacks do I need? 9?

[atomic abyss]

Need? I'd probably say 4-6
Exact numbers depends on the specific carriers since some have double fighter slots (Aquila)
If you include w15 support fleet then the answer would change

[bold stream]

Hello all. I have a lot of tech boxes now. Which tech boxes should I open and what purple equips should I keep?

[atomic abyss]

Craft them to purple, open all of them

/equip has a safe to scrap guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[neon ice]

heya , i'm looking to revise this main opsi fleet

[atomic abyss]

Alright, what exactly do you want us to do with it?
And what are your other opsi fleets?

[neon ice]

i want it to update it , i'm curious what's the latest meta

[atomic abyss]

Well even the 6 months ago meta wouldn't make you put Soyuz in a mob fleet...

[fresh briar]

Bismarck worth it to get?

[atomic abyss]

Trash, not worth

[crimson glacier]

soyuz works fine tho if other fleets are good

[neon ice]

my others

[fresh briar]

Tirpitz?

[atomic abyss]

Get hood if you haven't
Otherwise Tirpitz

[neon ice]

mainly i want to refresh since i haven't folowed the latest builds in years

[fresh briar]

I had hood

[atomic abyss]

Ok, then I have to ask
Do you have Amagi CV or Implacable
Or maybe Nakhimov

[fresh briar]

But which faction should choose because I'm currently using random faction

[neon ice]

i have all ships

still need bps for nakhimov

[atomic abyss]

Faction fleets are rubbish don't build them, build mixed
You pick Tirpitz because she helps you unlock friederich de grosse

[atomic abyss]

I'll take your word for that

[neon ice]

well bar one i need to buy from the curent event

[neon ice]

so which ships should i switch ?

[atomic abyss]

Collabs don't contribute to collection % tho

There's so many things to switch I don't even know where to start...

[neon ice]

first fleet , since that does most of the work in opsi

[atomic abyss]

Mob: Musashi UvH Perseus/Unicorn retro

BB boss: Soyuz, Alsace, Bis 2

CV 1: Implacable, Amagi, Shinano

CV2: Kearsage, Yorktown2, Nakhimov

[neon ice]

ahh yea missing this meta

[cobalt rapids]

bz alsace soyuz - aegir helena ply
amagicv implac shinano - guam kazagumo sirius
kear yt2 enty - laffi aurora eldr
unicorn + leftover URs

[covert junco]

Is it possible to refund items ingame? I accidentally bought 3rd slot tactical training.

[atomic abyss]

No

[covert junco]

Rip. And i had enough for an l2d skin too.

[neon ice]

who's bz ?

[cobalt rapids]

bismarck zwei

[neon ice]

ahh

[neon ice]

think i'll go with this

[crimson glacier]

is musashi better than fdg tho

[neon ice]

i think it is

[crimson glacier]

in opsi mob tho

[neon ice]

alright this is the main template , need frontline completion

[unkempt mortar]

question bump i guess

[sharp socket]

does support fleet skills activate in w15

[inner delta]

no

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[cobalt rapids]

can do musashi then

[elfin hollow]

What is maritime attack?

[cobalt rapids]

one of the daily raid uh

[unkempt mortar]

k so floofsashi now, amagi later?

[elfin hollow]

None of them are named that tho.

[cobalt rapids]

yea they some share diff names than the ones on the card
its either the box one or the plates one idr

[vale spindle]

its cause devs are inconsistent with en names with regards to location names

the wiki daily raid page should have both iirc so just ctrl+f search it

[crimson glacier]

isnt maritime the suicide boat one

[cobalt rapids]

i did it doesnt

[vale spindle]

What about if you put it in the wiki search bar, is there a redirect

[cobalt rapids]

no just to escort

[vale spindle]

rip

[cobalt rapids]

actually i think its the skill book one after all since it says attack on the card

[subtle cloud]

T5 is the best node to grind right

[cobalt rapids]

yea best for non lowoil costing strats

[cobalt rapids]

apparently 1 redirect exists, in akashi's questline

[jovial cedar]

does the high efficiency plans also give double exp to ships?

[whole crypt]

remind me is there something that reliably oneshots this month's harby

[cobalt rapids]

helenaless? subless?

[tranquil rock]

advance mission (one with hiryuu as background) is bomb boat rush

[whole crypt]

helenaless, can use wolfpack

[cobalt rapids]

eagles with subs should be relatively easy

[noble osprey]

Guys is Golden Darkness a really strong ship? I got all the event ships except for her, is she worth to keep pulling for or nah?

[whole crypt]

Kearsarge/Yorktown II + ?

[cobalt rapids]

they are average gold event ships or slightly better
none will be endgame meta
pull if u rly like em

[cobalt rapids]

kear y2 enty - sirius laffii eldr

[noble osprey]

Alright thanks, ill probably skip

[whole crypt]

that enough to kill through shields?

[cobalt rapids]

it doesnt kill through shields
its 12a yt2 and she pulls enty skyraider aswell

[crimson glacier]

@tranquil rock so you are saying that im right?

[cobalt rapids]

maybe u can try full sending it with ijn i didnt try

oh yea i should mention 40 rld cats ig

[whole crypt]

well it's the shields I'm wondering if we have something that either avoids the shields well enough or does enough to kill through shields

(reliably)

if you need 12a I'm guessing La-9 timing doesn't fit, at least not on Yorktown

[cobalt rapids]

uh i didnt have my 2nd la-9 then

so yk2 was on hvar bf
but yea it prob doesnt fit

[whole crypt]

I assume it's supposed to get in before the shields, so I think La-9 might not make it, at least not in full

[cobalt rapids]

yea
enty can take la-9 tho

[whole crypt]

with skyraider?

[forest palm]

[fallow sedge]

I'm about to reach level 70 how hard is ch10?

[forest palm]

honestly bit of a pain in the ass if you don't have proper interception for suicide boats, and burn is an issue

[cobalt rapids]

yk2 can take la-9 in first slot and hvar 3rd

[fallow sedge]

Is it possible to just brute force it? Like high levels

[mellow cape]

@wind hazel

[wind hazel]

?

[whole crypt]

does the comp also squeeze 3rd strike in before the latter half barrier?

[cobalt rapids]

uh no the 3rd strike goes into that barrier

[whole crypt]

eh, so you do enough to kill in 2 strikes? or what

[cobalt rapids]

first 2 strikes do around 80 bars then the 4th strike finish it off

[whole crypt]

ah well, maybe next year we'll get something better

[mellow cape]

Omg mori sorry, I had my phone in my pocket and it pinged you. My bad

[sharp echo]

what are these for

[barren tapir]

full course is dorm food, the rest is cosmetic stuff like chat frame(iirc) and gear skins

[sharp echo]

oh gear skin and frame, not important lol
oke skip first

accidently bricked myself coz cant finish beginner mission

[boreal nacelle]

Which one to buy for newbie?

[zinc cave]

If you have the medals to spare for it then I recommend Sirius, she has a Carrier-buff niche.

[forest palm]

as a newbie you won't use any of these, later on Sandy, and Sirius have use case

[zinc cave]

San Diego is an extremely strong Anti Air carry but quite expensive to invest in as a new player right now

[barren tapir]

sirius or sandy

[whole crypt]

bulin

[barren tapir]

use the oil to grind smh

you can mass remove oil by buying dorm food but this is not recommended unless you have very little time to play

[worn junco]

Is it bad that I still run one fleet instead of two fleets?

[zinc cave]

In what sense? 1 fleet for all enemies?

[barren tapir]

where are you in campaign

[eager mulch]

Below W10 no, above yes

[worn junco]

Alr ty

I'm at W6, but for the sake of making things faster I'll try to get second fleet

[barren tapir]

no, you shouldn't make a second fleet until ch9

[worn junco]

Alr I'll keep it in mind but I have lots of spare ships

[sharp echo]

btw CV have a bar meter, what is that?

[noble tulip]

/detection

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553

For more information, consult the wiki

[sharp echo]

oooh ty

[winged barn]

Sandy and her retrofit get very useful late game chapters like W13 with heavy plane focus.
Your entire screen will be flooded with off Screen planes, mass produced Cv planes and Kansen planes

[barren tapir]

a new player isnt gonna need sandy for quite some time

[eternal moth]

Yeah, but it's still better to have her once you do. She can always just be stuck in the dorm to get some levels and forgotten about

[vale cradle]

Can someone give me a guide for the research academy, or fleet tech in general

[eternal moth]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[eternal moth]

If you have other questions, I'll see if I can find another guide for you.

[vale cradle]

Oh ok thx

[eternal moth]

Since I'm already on it anyways, here's the wiki's research page https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research#Monarch-0

[vale cradle]

Alr thx

[eternal moth]

Do you have any specific questions?

[versed elk]

which team did u guys use for ex

[wind hazel]

ijn cv

[vale cradle]

What are the "research academy" research is the most worthit, and which one i should avoid

[versed elk]

its heavy>

[wind hazel]

ye heavy

[versed elk]

noice

[eternal moth]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[vale cradle]

Wow, thanks again

[eternal moth]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[eternal moth]

There's a quick rundown of the researches to choose. TLDR, Q and G for gear prints, faces and G for ship BP. Avoid the cube research unless you have a lot of spares (>1000 or so)

[barren tapir]

at this stage in the game unless you've fully caught up on UR reruns id say dont do cube research (besides maybe 30min UL ones) until 2000+ cubes. a couple bad UR events in a row + some collection event like collab and you're suddenly at 0 from 1000.

their time efficiency isnt so big as to be worth that risk imo

[eternal moth]

That's probably fair

[upbeat cairn]

Good morning, I’ve changed my team according to some tips, a Quick Look at the beginners guide (and personal preference for Colorado) should I change my Portland for another ship since I’m using lala as a tank?

[vale cradle]

Im still level 44, so yea im broke on cubes

Speaking of collab, are any of them good, or best to skip

[barren tapir]

can swap for helena or momo if you have her but portland is also fine, noobie tasks want you to invest in her anyway

[tawdry topaz]

Can someone help me with OpSi boss fleets?

[barren tapir]

golds good purples bad

skip if you only care about UR since UR will always beat gold

[vale cradle]

Ok then, also who should i focus for my catch-up research academy

[eternal moth]

Can you research any of the PR4 ships yet?

[vale cradle]

No 😐

[tawdry topaz]

can someone help me with opsi fleets

[eternal moth]

Actually, catchup... set it on Anchorage, you'll get the tech points for her soon enough

[barren tapir]

not really important since finishing a catchup takes some time

yeah set it on anchorage if you dont have any like waifu preference otherwise. she gud tank and USS point is not too hard to get

[vale cradle]

Alr then

[eternal moth]

PR4 is still probably the single-best season they've released

[barren tapir]

yes every single ship in it was top end when it came out, and 4 of them aged very well. while also having very good gear

[junior walrus]

Are large projects typically the best option?

[barren tapir]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[remote quarry]

I still have PR4 focus set, for gear

[barren tapir]

generally no. C is ok when ur new bc u have no resources and are poor and it's better than nothing, but try to avoid those researches once you have coins and plates etc

[eternal moth]

Basic research is about the worst you can do, since it gives such few patterns. Literally the only good thing about it is that it's free. It's a huge waste of time

Like, I've done a gold basic and gotten, I think, 3 gear BP before

[barren tapir]

theyre a 1 week player so its actually among the better ones for their progression currently, but long run yes avoid C

[junior walrus]

I haven’t even selected one of these if it matters idrk

[mint flint]

focus pr4

[barren tapir]

select pr4 or pr5 focus (your preference) and a catchup for anchorage

[remote quarry]

It matters

[barren tapir]

pr5 is an option since pr4 DRs will be coinable soon™️

[mint flint]

you still want a tenrai though

[barren tapir]

pr4 is still better for gear, but pr5 you can start getting plymouth bps if you like

[barren tapir]

true, but you can get one in protocore and it MIGHT come to gearlab soon™️

[remote quarry]

Probably at least 2, possibly 3

[barren tapir]

so my opinion is that both options are viable depending on your preference

[mint flint]

yeah 1 from research 1 from protocore

[eternal moth]

Scroll up a little for the Research Guide if you want it/haven't seen it

[barren tapir]

since any ship bps are gonna be very from pr4

so pr5 might be a better total use of research time early

[junior walrus]

I’ll take a look at it. Was planning on taking a closer look at gear guide today, but I’m probably a good ways out from being picky about gear so research is probably better.

[eternal moth]

I'd say the opposite actually. Knowing gear is more important

[remote quarry]

Do you all think I should progress the campaign soon? Haven't worked on it in 3 years. Mostly just farm 12-4 for coins and XP

[barren tapir]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#shipyard_priority sam guide prefers pr5 focus

[remote quarry]

Currently all 3 stars in C13, haven't started 14

[cobalt rapids]

only if u care about collection % or higher cog eff %

[undone plover]

Or gems

[mint flint]

i mean its not really necessary, though it does give gems among other stuff

[remote quarry]

Nah, I'd swipe

[bright tusk]

How to move the puzzle pieces?

[remote quarry]

Just tap the title twice, it will auto complete it

[ivory pawn]

You need to drag from the squares, not the spaces between.

[tropic tusk]

is there any good healer in russia?

[tame jungle]

volga is a good secondary healer

[barren tapir]

i forgot volga im gonna uninstall

[tame jungle]

he forgor

[junior walrus]

Yes, but at only like 8 days playing I’m basically at the whim of the drops I get. I’m buying proto stuff to make good weapons, but that’s pretty simple.

Like I don’t have much control over the gear atm, but I can control what I research

[barren tapir]

yeah gear takes time dw about it just do what you can

[wary hawk]

For strength VIII hard mode in opsi, do I just swap bb's to ap guns and carriers to med planes? Or am I misunderstanding something and its not that simple?

[vale cradle]

Does a banner roadmap exist?

[eternal moth]

If the sync timings work, that should be fine.

[cobalt rapids]

its that shrimple but this month she has a 20s shield

[eternal moth]

They don't tell us in advance what's coming, no

[wary hawk]

20s shield my beloathed

[vale cradle]

Dang

[wary hawk]

Ty friends

[tropic tusk]

3q

[eternal moth]

We can guess based on past years, like a UR event coming out next month, but we don't know what faction or ship it's going to be.

[junior walrus]

Is it worth pulling a UR if you can’t pity it? I’m at 100 cubes and 100 into pity

[eternal moth]

Don't pull just for the perma-URs

The pity on the perma-pool will stay there, and doesn't carry over to UR events

[junior walrus]

So basically just depends on how the UR is if it’s worth going for

Like event ones

[eternal moth]

The likely answer is yes, it's going to be worthwhile to pull for

[vale cradle]

On average how many cubes do we get monthly?

[hollow gust]

Event ones are almost always worth pulling , perm URs are perm

[eternal moth]

But that's only the event, not the ones that you can get right now. 168 cubes/month minimum

[hollow gust]

168 guranteed , up to 300

[vale cradle]

Dam ok

[junior walrus]

I’ve pulled first two days to get a decent roster going. Other than that just for daily quests/some for event points, but other than that I’ve tried sitting on them.

[eternal moth]

I got 2 copies of Musashi in my first 10 pulls on her rerun, so you may not even need 100 cubes

[hollow gust]

You don't need to pull for good roster

[mint flint]

i got 0 copies of musashi in 200 pulls so its still a good idea to have cubes saved

[junior walrus]

That was before I came in here and found out how easy a good roster is to get

How does this second star for escort fleet work? Is it just running the mission a few times till it happens or what

[barren tapir]

understandable rookie mistake, most ppl do that if they dont have outside assistance xd

[barren tapir]

yes. if it's hard mode youll need to disable clearing mode

escort fleet = the mobs you kill to spawn the boss fleet

[junior walrus]

Not hard mode. I’m trying to get my campaign pushed farther since all I need for unicorn retro at this point is gold

[mint flint]

up to a certain point killing all mobs once and then running the stage twice on minimum mobs is enough for the second star and the 100% stage clear

[junior walrus]

That means running it manually?

[barren tapir]

ya, mobs dont spawn in clearing mode in hard mode

[junior walrus]

i mean idrc too much about 3* hard mode yet. I just need the stages unlocked really.

[eternal moth]

If you aren't doing hard mode you can do it on clearing mode

[junior walrus]

yeah I already did my max hard mode today. What stage on hard mode is more consistent that you get gold blue prints?

[eternal moth]

It's pretty much just doing the hardest one you can; you get the most core data that way

[barren tapir]

better the later the stage, no actual drop information known

anecdotally i get more golds in 12hm than i remember getting in early days from 3-9 hm

[summer cove]

guys what should i prio to get in the event shop this event?

[barren tapir]

check pins, it's in the datamine

[whole crypt]

I just realized minigame has some points you can get but it's totally not worth the time

[eternal moth]

I'm just doing it for completion's sake at this point

[whole crypt]

100 points for doing 2k in the minigame with the stupid buffs

[eternal moth]

The ability on today's gear for Help Me is just flavor right?

[junior walrus]

i mean the minigame is only 2 minutes not that bad

[whole crypt]

but it's 2 minutes I have to be physically engaging in the game over a 4 minute afk for an event stage

[whole crypt]

which one was today

[eternal moth]

The spooky thing

[whole crypt]

this thing?

[ivory pawn]

Aye. Says a small damage boost every 20s.

[junior walrus]

someone told me to put that on howe saying it was okay

[ivory pawn]

FP, Hit, and a unknown amount of extra damage. Sounds pretty solid, especially since you don’t have shells yet.

[whole crypt]

it's a budget FP/HIT aug for new players, if you don't have the shells

or radar

[junior walrus]

yeah i have that and the moon charm on her

[whole crypt]

small damage boost is moon charm not the eye thing, it's 1% per stack supposedly

[ivory pawn]

Oh, I was thinking of Robot.

[whole crypt]

actually that looks more like a bat

[junior walrus]

it looks like the bats from breath of the wild without the wings

[sinful elk]

Chat are these gears good on her

[eternal moth]

That's fine unless you need more survivability

AA could be a little better, but for the most part it's good enough

[eternal moth]

I thought it was a beholder.

[vale cradle]

Should i buy a UR bullin from the core shop once im able to afford it

[whole crypt]

this one

[wind hazel]

buy it when you need it

[eternal moth]

Only once you're able to afford enough to max limit break a ship. They're unlimited in the store

[vale cradle]

Ok then 👍

[summer cove]

but it does not say what should i buy in store, are blueprints a good choice?

[wind hazel]

did you check properly

[junior walrus]

do the gold gear boxes have a chance at dropping stuff you make in gear labs just its a low chance?

[wind hazel]

a few, like the quad mag torpedo

[eternal moth]

They have specific drop tables for each box, although I'm not sure where to find that info on the wiki

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Equipment here

[barren tapir]

[junior walrus]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority

[wind hazel]

[junior walrus]

guide in simple terms says buy blueprints if needed.

wait different shop lol. I asked that question about the event shop the other day. I was told buy special/general blue prints but make sure you're keepin 8k around for the collab unit.

[wind hazel]

just buy near the end of event

[eternal moth]

Mori's pic has the priority list, but you can't go wrong getting blueprints and cog arrays and chips

[junior walrus]

is there a spending guide lmao like for actual money

[undone plover]

Not really
Cause it will depend on what u value

U can spend on dock space
Oath rings
Skins

There is also ppl that whale resources but u dont really need to do that

[wind hazel]

gem 2x is the most value

[junior walrus]

yeah im just looking value

[eternal moth]

The monthly pack is really good too

[undone plover]

For the packs yeah
Double gem bonus is the best
Cruise pass is also good value if u like the skin

[junior walrus]

the cruise pass you mean?

[junior walrus]

is monthly pack cruise pass or no?

[barren tapir]

if u like skin its a good deal if u dont then

[junior walrus]

i did get cruise pass a few days ago and was able to fnish it

[barren tapir]

trade license idk its ok

[junior walrus]

i didnt see skin. Who is it for?

[eternal moth]

And unlike some games, this one apparently sends you the items every day even if you don't log in

[barren tapir]

yeah

[wind hazel]

trade license is the best gem value after you exhausted the 2x bonus

[barren tapir]

manjuu are actual gamers that's why

[wind hazel]

even comes with coin and oil

and cube

[barren tapir]

cubes is the main bonus effect

[eternal moth]

don't underestimate the value of 30 extra cubes.

[ivory pawn]

The 200 gems for a $ is a good deal too, though it’s going away soon.

[undone plover]

The one hamaal posted is the monthly pass
It is called the trade pass
It gives 500 gems

Then 1000 gold 1 coob and 200 gold everyday for 30 days

The other one is the cruise pass
It also gives a minor amount of gems and resources
And a skin
This time it gives suffren skin iirc

[junior walrus]

thats 1 cube a day?

[eternal moth]

Yeah

[undone plover]

Yes it is even better than double gems but only 1 time, limited and small amount 😔

[junior walrus]

i bought the 200 gems for $1

[undone plover]

If u manage your cubes well u shouldnt rly need it
But it is a nice bonus regardless

[junior walrus]

yeah i'd just like to have a good chance at getting the UR during december event

[barren tapir]

trade license gives u almost a full UR pity every year

[eternal moth]

Trade pass would be a good choice if you're looking to spend

[undone plover]

if u start event with 300 cubes u can guarentee it

[elfin hollow]

hopefully the new ur looks mid i dont want to spend my hard earned cubes right away

😭

[barren tapir]

hopefully the new ur is super cute so i feel tempted to obtain her musashi was nice but not nice enough with collab UR and yk2 incoming

[eternal moth]

He has 100 now, should get another almost 200, so will probably be ok

[wind hazel]

it will be the best looking UR in history of Dota2

[undone plover]

Last year they gave a free UR in dec so anything goes rly

[little plinth]

limited secrets don't go away if you've purchased them right?

[elfin hollow]

shit

[eternal moth]

Correct

[junior walrus]

for the small price of

[elfin hollow]

i just started building up my cubes

[junior walrus]

95.88 usd

[elfin hollow]

am i cooked

[undone plover]

Tbf u also get 6000 gems and oil and gold

[eternal moth]

How many do you have now?

[elfin hollow]

like 100

[barren tapir]

6000 gems, 365 cubes, 365000 coins, 73000 oil

[junior walrus]

listen i spent like $800 on raid shadow legends i am no better than anyone, but any justification of spending on gacha is COPE

[barren tapir]

something along those lines in 1 year

[wind hazel]

start saving, skip all banner until UR

[undone plover]

Still less gems than buying double gem pack
So like I said value is kinda subjective in these things

[eternal moth]

As I mentioned, that's going to put you close to 300 come the start of the event, assuming you only do one light build a day from now until the start. You could even hit 400 if you get lucky

[barren tapir]

definitely cope when AL is so f2p friendly, but it's a gud option if u wanna spend

[eternal moth]

Eh, buying a pack every once in a while I see as supporting the devs

[elfin hollow]

real shit

[mellow cape]

Yeah the price of resources in comparison to how easy it becomes to get those said resources is kinda crazy.

[undone plover]

Which is why dont spend for resources imo

[junior walrus]

yeah ive noticed this game is super f2p friendly i just get bored

[undone plover]

Spend for QoL or skins/rings if u want

[eternal moth]

A friend of mine spent over $1000 on Genshin getting a C6 Ganyu. That's when things are going a little overboard.

[real jasper]

how can I buy the packs if I'm not in the supported country?

[elfin hollow]

spending 1k on genshin is crazy

[eternal moth]

Technically we can't tell you to use a VPN to change your country.

[barren tapir]

spending 1k on genshin is crazy

[junior walrus]

my $800 spend on raid was over the course of like 1.5 years and "to be fair" at the time i was playing i had a REALLY good roster

[real jasper]

VPN doesnt work I think

[undone plover]

There is a top up website for gems
Not sure if it works for the packs that cost USD

Maybe ask in #tech-support

[barren tapir]

bit high but 45 a month isnt too bad if you're reasonably well off and really enjoy the game tbh

[wind hazel]

where are you from

[mellow cape]

This game just takes time tbh, I think new players have it the worse cause it's impossible to pull every single UR banner in a year vs. The free cubes you get every year.

[whole crypt]

it's possible to pull every new UR

[real jasper]

I'm from Vietnam

[barren tapir]

well impossible unless you get lucky, its just officially impossible if you have to pity each one. you cant ever 100% ensure enough cubes to pity each one

[eternal moth]

I've only bought cubes with gems once, and it was because I was a new player that needed like 50 more to get pity on New Jersey's banner. Even going to pity several times since I haven't needed to buy anymore

[whole crypt]

you're guaranteed about 2000 cubes a year, you need 1600 to pity every new UR in a year

[elfin hollow]

spending on nj is valid

[lament hazel]

Anyone know how to solve today's puzzle

[eternal moth]

She was only the second UR ever released, so I never regretted it

[undone plover]

1600 if back to back pity
Which almost never happens

Realistically your average UR pulls are around 90-100 iirc

[mellow cape]

Do new URs get shop tickets vouchers like musashi did?

[elfin hollow]

every UR has pity

[undone plover]

No
Only reruns get tickets

[barren tapir]

ye but keep in mind ppl tell you to pull for, ex, musashi as well

new UR + rerun = 2848 needed

[elfin hollow]

but no tickets

[whole crypt]

the point is to not overspend on reruns

[eternal moth]

Even though I'm American, EU URs seem to hate me. I've had to pity all 3

[whole crypt]

no one will tell you "you must get musashi", especially not here

you should if you can

[barren tapir]

not exactly must but every time ive seen ppl ask 'shud i pull for musashi' it's been yes with no disclaimer beyond "collab and new UR soon"

[whole crypt]

but skipping if you're low on cubes or want to save for newer URs is perectly fine

[barren tapir]

ye that's what i did

[mellow cape]

In my personal experience, it took me 2 years to get my UR collection and feel like I'm not in that doom trap of FOMO lolll

[whole crypt]

that disclaimer is basically telling you it's your choice with your cubes if you're worried about missing newer ships

[barren tapir]

until i get comfy cubes im pulling based on how much i like a ship versus future ships

[whole crypt]

and we already have a fairly good idea of how perm UR works now, with the schedule shaping up nicely too

[elfin hollow]

only took me 40 cubes to get mushashi, very lucky

[whole crypt]

you don't have to rush a rerun UR if you're worried about upcoming new banners

[barren tapir]

i got everyone except musashi in my free pulls, so it wouldve been pretty bad value to keep going unfortunately relative to collab/new UR

[real jasper]

I'm new to the game, and it seems that gold is much needed than cubes right? I never have chance to pull for new ship because the gold keep disappearing

[lament hazel]

My head got dizzy with this

[barren tapir]

gold stops being a major issue once you reach ch12

[elfin hollow]

gold very important yes

[viscid swift]

that's only an issue early game

[whole crypt]

you need both, but coins eventually can be farmed quite consistently while cube income is limited

[eternal moth]

You can click the banner to auto solve

[whole crypt]

if you can't solve the puzzle you don't have to just tap the minigame title a few times

[barren tapir]

yoinked from someone who screenshot it

[real jasper]

at which level that I can farm map 12?

[whole crypt]

if you're going to just copy a solution you might as well just skip the puzzle

[mellow cape]

Not the lvl, the ships. You should invest in unicorn lol

[undone plover]

Around level 100, 2 fleets can do ch12 I think

[real jasper]

my unicorn is 3k gold away from retrofit lol, she's 90 now

[whole crypt]

the problem with farming ch12 is getting your commander level there, you'll have the ships needed before that

[undone plover]

But u will probably be gated by commander level unless there is an event when u start

[barren tapir]

well can reach 12-1 which is the most important, dont have to go further if you're not ready

100 with decent ship or 105-110 for easier life with meh ships

ch11 much harder anyway

[whole crypt]

usually by the time you have enough commander level to hit ch12, you should have the ships for it

[barren tapir]

might have the ships but not the gear, so either/or. more levels always help but arent particularly required is what i mean

[real jasper]

so commander level 100 right?

[barren tapir]

no 80. that is ship level

[left cedar]

btw, how much effective is Lala debuff in a CV Fleet ?

[barren tapir]

5% guaranteed easy sync, the other 5% prolly needs some fiddling with timing

idk how much her debuff actually gives, tho. probably a decent bit tho

[left cedar]

so 5% to 10% variations here and there ...

wut we have as option to her as "buffers" ?

[elfin hollow]

i use my momo for commissions

[barren tapir]

her skill 1, it's every 4 shots, so you'd want her gun to fire twice (mgm+1) every ~21 seconds or every ~11 seconds

dunno how easy that is to achieve tbh

both her skill debuff last for 8s each so you have some leeway i guess

[eternal moth]

Looks like an Algiers gun might give you pretty close to that timing

[left cedar]

i mean, wut other buffers have something close to 10%~ buff for CVs ?
something else aside Sirius, ARAs and Sirius sister that i forgot name

[eternal moth]

Although now that I think about it, Lala's only 71, so I'm missing a bunch of RLD, so possibly too fast

[barren tapir]

-10% enemy AA stat not exactly +10% cv dmg.

you can probably fiddle with lars calc

[slow field]

Hi, the question is, if I bought a skin for Cheshire with "Black Friday Coupon & Codes (2024)", does it not count?

[eternal moth]

It should if it's a rerun skin

Keep in mind, it has to be a rerun skin only available during the current sale, I don't think perma skins work

[hollow gust]

We already have too much buffs for CV, waste of time syncing a mid asf aa stat

[undone plover]

Any skin in rerun tab counts

Good for kear for ppl that lack ykii/laffey maybe

[hollow gust]

[karmic fjord]

What happened to samvaluations of new ships?

[slow field]

Understood well, thank you

[hollow gust]

Decent ships , nothing special

[eternal moth]

Sam needs time to samvaluate things

[eager mulch]

I hate it when guide makers don’t immediately dedicate their time to updating guides as soon as new stuff is out

[barren tapir]

ok yeah her debuff isnt that good

vs 300 AA it takes you from doing 33% to doing 36% dmg, or +9%

so mostly just gonna be a nice bonus if you wanna use her, but nothing meta worthy

also there was a gun giving her 5.13 rld which seems good to sync, there's a bunch of other options from 5s to 6s but idk the syncing math

there's also guides besides ectl if you want some opinions like REGAL

tho judging by previous samvaluations my take is he'd probably call all the golds

Overall, she is a great ship.

[left cedar]

alot to take as consideration, cuz idont wanna build for collab, so thks

[eternal moth]

From what I heard early, all the collab golds are near the top for their hulls and rarity

[whole crypt]

I'm a simple man, I can harb and showdown, I'm happy

[barren tapir]

ye prelim CN is pretty high end for gold and my very unofficial and anecdotal ""testing"" lines up appropriately

technically could consider 2 of them low end URs because lala prelim is drake fs5 and nana prelim is poikai

[whole crypt]

except drake and yuudachi already previously have other golds benchmarked near or above them

[barren tapir]

true theyre all low end URs then

[whole crypt]

just don't bother comparing with warspite if you must

[left cedar]

better compare with Owari than warspite

[barren tapir]

the only one i can actually sorta compare is the nana to poi thing and it feels accurate but nana is less consistent, lower lows and higher highs bc she's extremely torp focused and that means either very good or mid depending on auto rng

[eternal moth]

Golden Darkness > Warspite?

[barren tapir]

yami prelim is slightly below owari and daisen

i have no notes on her, she's stuck on lvl70 til i bother using bulins for her, my priority was pink vg

[eternal moth]

Ah, ok. That makes her pretty dang good then

[barren tapir]

155% main gun efficiency and a decent but not spectacular barrage will do that

[eternal moth]

I'm trying to get the points to buy out Momo in the shop

[barren tapir]

disclaimer is i dont do testing the way actual evals do im just ancedotally checking how they do in some content as i go

notes: uni lvl125, nana lvl100, enemy is lvl99 fleet in c5 hidden opsi

high end for her, very volatile since this took me quite by surprise, makes sense for a 100% torp boat.

battle length was less than a minute, i think about 45 seconds?

gear etc

[eternal moth]

Preload torp can do quite a bit, but I'm not sure if that's what did it.

[barren tapir]

she performs similarly well but not quite that extent in most fights ive checked dmg in

uni has preload with flap+wyvern

[eternal moth]

She'd probably do really well with a rainbow oxy if you don't need double toolbox, since she gets the 30% aux bonus

[barren tapir]

but ye nothing conclusive since its not like rigorous testing standard, but overall what ive seen is enough to make me call her a great dd

[barren tapir]

considering she has solid bulk she can prolly go with an oxy in some places yea. i dont have any though

factoring in her zombie heal she is like 96% ehp which is pretty decent, not main tank material but can easily offtank

yuudachi is 86%

[eternal moth]

I don't know, at 96% she should be able to mob tank almost anything except chapter 15

When paired with Uni anyway

[hollow gust]

That's like saying Portland is fine in w14

[eternal moth]

I know

[barren tapir]

on manual, sure

[hollow gust]

Even jervis back then needs Volga

[barren tapir]

jervis is like 114% so ye

[eternal moth]

Oh, I didn't realize she was quite that high

[barren tapir]

nana without her zombie is like mid 70s tho, so really not a tank just decent self sustain if she does take some damage

the more interesting w14 ship is momo anyway, because her plants will slow down rammers

and are positioned rather well to delay suicide boat and w14 rammers giving bb more time to kill those

[hollow gust]

155kai had no problems clearing suicides

[barren tapir]

they're rather squishy but good uptime

one big failing i should mention for all 3 pinks is the aug barrage is on paper rather good but in practice extremely inconsistent due to how narrow it is. great damage with infinite pierce but good luck hitting stuff on auto so their actual dps is gonna be a fair bit lower than it would be on paper

[junior walrus]

This good for anyone?

[hollow gust]

Decent for carriers

[forest palm]

it's worth using for if you lack gear lab

[mellow cape]

I'm farming t5 and I calculated the oil I need to use for all the PR7 gold BPs, is it even worth to farm 43k worth of oil

[junior walrus]

For Albion or unicorn?

[hollow gust]

Has your enty still not max limit broken

Either way give it to whichever one , fighters don't matter that much

[junior walrus]

I haven’t been using her much. I could just book her to max tbh. Should I do that and put Albion in 2nd fleet?

[tame jungle]

limit break is not levels

[junior walrus]

You need levels to limit break

[stone sluice]

How many 155kai are recommended to craft?

[forest palm]

as needed imo

[junior walrus]

That’s why I said I could book her to max and then limit break her

[forest palm]

ya that's fine, you could push to 55k if you wanted that's where the milestone rewards stop being worthwhile

[fallen oxide]

who should I limit break first? (except shinano)

[hollow gust]

Alsace should've been your first

[mellow cape]

One last question, for my quick retire options, what should I do for the settings?

[stone sluice]

If you do SP and 3 pulls every day + other event rewards you can make 1550 event points out of it.
9 days of the event left= 13,950
55,000 (to get the 10 gold plates) subtract 13,950= 41,050

So you are ok if you spend oil to get to those 43k and the rest will be cover just by dailies

[junior walrus]

I have some basic materials for gear labs, don't want to really be wasteful. Anything i should prioritize?

[mellow cape]

Hehe tyty

[stone sluice]

So as far as I recall, 155kai are used on BBs for w14 and on vanguard ships anywhere?

[vale stirrup]

I don't actually see the event mission for Chip M anywhere, the clear 60 event stages. Or Chip H, spending 15k pts. I haven't claimed them, their icons are still blank on the medal UI. I see the other 4 chips in missions/minigame-tasks

[mellow cape]

ALLIE

[ivory pawn]

Have you tapped the blank spaces on the medal UI?

[mellow cape]

HI LOL

[vale stirrup]

yeah, it just says "proceed" and dumps me to the event map. I've definitelyc leared over 60

[soft raft]

Did you go to your missions tab yet?

[vale stirrup]

missions tab doesn't list it for me. I see 3 of the other chips in there, other than N, which shows up in the minigame tasks

[ivory pawn]

The usual missions tab, or the mission tab in the collab menu?

[vale stirrup]

both, that's not there for me

[barren tapir]

they should show in either place. might be a bug relating to the changed requirements for one of them?

[ivory pawn]

Is there no mission at all for complete x stages or spend x energy stones?

[junior walrus]

I'm sure this changes later on down the road, but with OpSi there isn't like an optimal path early? Im just trying to clear everything available to me?

[eternal moth]

Click Collab, then Event Missions

[barren tapir]

do as much of it as you can yes. try to finish story up to ch4 asap

[eternal moth]

Clear them in order of difficulty

[junior walrus]

yeah im pushing off the t5 difficulty ones for now, but i think after unicorn retrofit i can do it

[vale stirrup]

ok lmao it's incremental, 60 won't show up until you claim the earlier ones sorry. I was just scanning the list for the chip icon

[junior walrus]

also Opsi doesnt seem too bad considering you can just leave and repair ships at ports then go back

[barren tapir]

well except for abyssals

[eager mulch]

harbiter

[barren tapir]

and hiddens ye

[tame jungle]

amaginom

[barren tapir]

abyssals is the big one for new players tho

[eager mulch]

[barren tapir]

if you get bb abyssal with 20s shield and heal

[junior walrus]

when does that start?

[barren tapir]

ignore them until you have ships at lvl110+ at least they are hard

[ivory pawn]

They’re easy enough to avoid, they’ll show up as a red chest/monster icon on the big map. Need to obtain a Siren Logger item to make them show up.

[eager mulch]

[mellow cape]

What's the avg time to complete a PR series?

[cobalt rapids]

4-6 months for non catchup non coinable ones

[eager mulch]

[junior walrus]

Don’t waste resources on this chick right?

[cobalt rapids]

shes tech fodder

[mellow cape]

And when will pr8 be predicted to come out loll

Cause I have a massive amount of catch-up to do

[cobalt rapids]

they usually come out in july but who knows if devs feel spicy

[mellow cape]

So I have a bunch of time still c:

[junior walrus]

I unlocked chapter 2 on opsi, but should i go back and full clear chapter 1 before doing chapter 2? My 3rd and 4th fleet are basicallt nothing. Just filler units.

[cobalt rapids]

keep pushing story at least till chp 4 to get reset but ideally finish it
idk what u mean by full clearing chapter 1

[ivory pawn]

You can get by with just 1 fleet for most of opsi, just toss some random ships in the other 3 if you don’t have another fleet built yet.

[real jasper]

so she's bad?

[cobalt rapids]

yes but she has good tech

[real jasper]

tech = what we need to unlock super sexy ships right?

[junior walrus]

Circled areas were not done, but chapter 2 is unlocked

[cobalt rapids]

no i meant this part

[hollow gust]

[cobalt rapids]

she doesnt provide faction tech for unlocking shipyard ships ( META shipyard ships don't exist )

[real jasper]

ah ok, so if I upgrade her, she will make other unit stronger?

[cobalt rapids]

ah, well thats something ull wanna clear
but i would focus on the story first like i said to unlock ur reset to have a much needed qol in port shops
if u ure walled from progressing in story then start clearing other shiny icons yea
and always do ur dailies

[mellow cape]

When you say tech, you're referring to fleet tech right?

[cobalt rapids]

yes but its a very small amount (they will add up in time)
tech fodder is what u raise when u dont have ships to raise that u wanna actually use

[real jasper]

Ok thank you. I upgraded her to lv60 already because I need some unit to do the hard mode, now she can rest in peace then

[cobalt rapids]

well fleet tech refers to both direct stat bonuses and faction points
but we call fleet tech the stat bonuses and faction tech for faction points

[mellow cape]

Is there a way to see a combination of both?

[cobalt rapids]

wiki or ingame

[eager mulch]

who is this

[elfin hollow]

Hey lads, what in the medal shop is worth getting besides SRs and cores?

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#medal

[real jasper]

btw should I use this on Nana?

[eager mulch]

no

[cobalt rapids]

use surv auxes or rainbow oxy torp if shes survivng fine

[eager mulch]

[hollow gust]

White torpedo

[sweet delta]

This is worse than rainbow oxytorp unless the battle is super short

[elfin hollow]

Thank you guv

[real jasper]

So as I ask around, Nana should use fast main gun, and focus on torp dmg right?

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[real jasper]

ty, so she will build like this right?

[hollow gust]

Jfc u know you can use dark mode without swapping all the colors eh?

[cobalt rapids]

looks fine
except the aa gun which u can ignore 2nd to 5th row

[real jasper]

ty, but for now I barely has anything to equip. So how long until I can craft those gun?

[cobalt rapids]

the blue gun is easy to get in eagle union boxes

[keen sable]

it's not part of chapter 1 if it doesn't say you have to do it.

[ashen horizon]

anyone happen to know when was the last time bismark zwei was rerun or if she gonna be rerun soon?

[eternal moth]

She hasn't been rerun

[ashen horizon]

[cobalt rapids]

1 year and a half ago and theres like 2 more UR events that need to be rerun before her

[ashen horizon]

not that soon ig

[eternal moth]

Is that it? I thought it would take longer

[cobalt rapids]

and frostfall for non URs and thats it i think(?)

ah and brunhilde who got skipped

[wary hawk]

Whats the next best alternative to this thing? I saw it in Suchis elbing guide

[stark quiver]

la9

[cobalt rapids]

bf109

[wary hawk]

Ty ill look at both

[cobalt rapids]

la-9 is 2% better but bf has a more similar timing

[forest palm]

and since it's unrealistic to have mass quantities BF-109G

[tame jungle]

typo?

nvm just wording

[forest palm]

think it's more of a you thing

[tame jungle]

[hollow gust]

How much does cruise pass cost?

[cobalt rapids]

9.99 USD

[hollow gust]

Gotcha

It should reset soon , wondered what's the next skin

[viscid swift]

Weser maid skin

[hollow gust]

U got pic? I haven't seen that

[viscid swift]

let me check

[hollow gust]

That's a change of pace for cruise pass skin

[forest palm]

Weser

[hollow gust]

I'll take it

[forest palm]

Meta is Giulio right?

[keen sable]

it's viewable in game already

but you would need at least 2 wesers because it's not better than urbane onyx

[hollow gust]

Swimsuit already better

[forest palm]

Weser is one of those elites where all her outfits are good

this'll be her 4th

[undone plover]

BB cat was soul flame FP FP and what talent?

RLD?

[spring bolt]

destiny, or hit, or a cv talent, or mountain

[undone plover]

CV talent?

so for pure BB it is destiny > hit > rld for offensive?

is rld not that important?

[lunar sparrow]

does anyone know the solution of bristols puzzle? my small brain cant figure it out

[spring bolt]

pretty much
rld is good but sometimes you need no rld to slow down, so you might want to have another cat without rld for that

[undone plover]

I see thanks

[hollow gust]

tap the title multiple times

[forest palm]

[pale wing]

How is it?

[eternal moth]

Musashi not MLB, 0/10

What stage are you on now?

[pale wing]

4-3

[eternal moth]

Make sure you limit break your ships ASAP, and at this point Musashi is probably the best ship you can get. Get Unicorn, retrofit her, and start using her alongside the other 2. Personally, I'd drop Nana as you'll need too many bulins, but if you can get Enterprise completed and then start working on her you should be fine.

[hollow gust]

still better then penn

[eternal moth]

I know, that was mostly a joke

[barren tapir]

2lb musashi beats most early accessible bbs, so that's not actually an issue imo.

move portland to the leftmost slot on vanguard and nana to the middle, add unicorn to the backline and it's a functional fleet

after limitbreaking and whatnot

[hollow gust]

my lmb2 musashi is doing very well

[odd cedar]

i started off with new jersey when i first started, she felt op

[eternal moth]

Yeah, Musashi is one of the only ships that I'm ok using at LB2 because of her barrage

[barren tapir]

nagato meta taught me insane barrage can carry a ship even without mlb sometimes

[forest palm]

one of the top 5 BBs in the game is incredibly strong even when not at full strength, who would've though

[odd cedar]

I'm just planning to use the ships I like, but I got a lot of the beginning stuff beefed up like helena retrofit, unicorn retrofit, and saratoga retrofit

[barren tapir]

[eternal moth]

How can you NOT like those three though?

[barren tapir]

real

[odd cedar]

i like agir, august, and eugen lol

i have 2/3 so far

[forest palm]

using the ships that you like is more of a late game luxury tbh

[barren tapir]

getting into #al-general territory, but my dream opsi fleet is ruppy sara percy pinkette vg

[hollow gust]

helena needs no retro

[forest palm]

not immediately at least

[eternal moth]

Yeah, she's the lowest priority of the commonly used retros

[odd cedar]

🤷‍♂️ dont really have another other good cls for the time being

[hollow gust]

its mostly a survivabilty gain, not like u can take advantage of SG timing. Its perfectly fine to start saving resources for sandy]

[barren tapir]

retro helena is fine as long as you didnt delay some other retro or research ship construction for it

[odd cedar]

yeah saving for sandy rn, helena i didnt rush, i only rushed unicorn and saratoga

[junior walrus]

Shouldn't his portland be in the left corner spot for tanking?

[sinful elk]

Chat between agir and brest whos generally stronger?

[eternal moth]

Agir

[forest palm]

Brest will do more damage, Agir will tank more damage

[sinful elk]

Yeah i kinda don't need another tank

[eternal moth]

Then don't use a CB

[forest palm]

that's the whole purpose of CBs

[hollow gust]

u mean Brest better tank in most later game content

[sinful elk]

Would brest able to replace kron?

[forest palm]

if you're looking for damage in a CB, no

[tranquil rock]

saratoga retro is goated

[hollow gust]

its a good early to mid game CV yes

[forest palm]

Sara can manage into 14

[hollow gust]

14 mid game, easy asf content

[mellow cape]

[forest palm]

14 is not mid game lol

[storm heron]

15 mid game, easy asf content

[hollow gust]

~~it does not take that much effort anymore ~~

[forest palm]

ah, yes months of grinding, not much effort

[storm heron]

just bring AA

[hollow gust]

W15 is a much much much harder content that can take years

[forest palm]

[vale spindle]

Swapping them alone likely won't solve your issue since they are pretty similar

[storm heron]

kron might be better

[hollow gust]

you really dont need agir bulk, if ur kron is dying there are other issues u gotta address

[forest palm]

difference between CBs is small

[mellow cape]

Okay so I haven't touched w15 yet but what exactly is the support fleet?

[eternal moth]

CVs that send in interceptor aircraft

[hollow gust]

just provides plane intercept

[mellow cape]

Ohh I see ty, so CVs only

[storm heron]

just provide fighter with AVI and efficiency multiplier to intercept

CVL too

[mellow cape]

What would a support fleet consist of typically?

[hollow gust]

Lusty LustyMuse LustyLil Indomy Implacable

or for the poorer folks Chenhai

[forest palm]

Lil Lusty

[storm heron]

I used chen hai, illus, indomitable

[hollow gust]

Oh wait Nahkimov is a really strong one too

shes prob the best one

yeah 140%*6 with one of the highest AVI

[storm heron]

just use nakhimov, implac, indomi

[mellow cape]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[hollow gust]

indomi better then implac

[pale wing]

Well, i need 2 Bulin Mark 3 to break her limit

[mellow cape]

What does it mean when the guide is saying washing machines

[eternal moth]

Gold rudder

[mellow cape]

Oh lmao 💀

[eternal moth]

Washing machine ^^

[hollow gust]

should make a hyperlink that leads to wiki lmao

[toxic sandal]

as a less than two week old account, what are some easy to obtain equipment i should be getting to +10?

[hollow gust]

well what do u have

[toxic sandal]

• unicorn, nelson, TLR cast on 2nd fleet

[hollow gust]

what equipment u have

also make a thread

[toxic sandal]

well my question was what easy to obtain equipment(ones that are normally gotten within 2 weeks) are worth to get to 10

[ocean shuttle]

Any way to get ordnance testing reports specifically? Already completing opsi every month, but I have lots of spare materials but can't use them in gear lab without ordnance testing reports

[hollow gust]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

I can give u a link with the transition gear listed on the bottom or u show ur depot in a thread and i can circle what gear worth +10 , do as u wish

[toxic sandal]

so basically if i don't have a gear on that list for the ship it's not worth to get it to 10?

[hollow gust]

basically

[toxic sandal]

kk thanks

[undone plover]

they are found in port shops
and can drop from abyssals + cat nodes (rng)
u can upgrade T2 ordnance reports to T3 but it is not recommended until much later in the game

[ocean shuttle]

Fair. Already doing all that opsi has to offer. Might start making T3s for more wyverns soon. Either way it seems like the limiting resources by a large margin. Oh well

[mellow cape]

So I'm thinking for my mob/1st/3rd boss fleet

I want to do
Unicorn, Musashi, and Aquila
Laffey 2, shimato, and Brest??

How does that sound for w15?

[undone plover]

wyvern doesnt really need T3 reports

only thing that needs it iirc is the drake CA gun, the twin 457 BB gun and the spearfish TB

[ocean shuttle]

Oh yeah, didn't realize,ty. Was looking to make drake gun today and couldn't due to reports, and made some DD guns that needed them too so kinda assumed everything did

Ive got enough for 2 wyverns and I didn't even realize

[inland shoal]

Main fleet is good, vg not sure, should probably work I think

[mellow cape]

I seee okayokay, it was between Brest and Guam loll.

[hollow gust]

Should be fine, brest is usually used in boss tho

[mellow cape]

Let me think of a second fleet for 2nd boss

[onyx chasm]

For the building ship weeklies do I wanna build from the event or another banner?

[hollow gust]

weeklies in light unless u want some of the ships still

[onyx chasm]

Are any of the event ships good?

[hollow gust]

solid for newbies and midgame, collection for vets

[onyx chasm]

I mean im not a vet so i guess I'll just try

[barren tapir]

what is a vet

[viscid swift]

not me

[eager mulch]

person who takes care of animals I think

[stark quiver]

veteran player basically

[barren tapir]

well yeah. i mean what do people consider as a veteran player

[stark quiver]

no clue

[onyx chasm]

Is there another purpose for the Epic Bulins? Like can I fuse them into SR's or nah

[inland shoal]

Nope, at some point you'll retire some for medals

[glacial widget]

anyone got the puzzle solution for today

[onyx chasm]

where can i get energy fragments for the event

[vale spindle]

Tap the title multiple times until it auto solves it for you

[mellow cape]

Lol

[vale spindle]

It says it in the image...
(event stages also drop them too)

[mellow cape]

The answer is right in the screenshot, clear chap 3 and beyond

[onyx chasm]

Sorry I'm tired, wasnt looking

[mellow cape]

Volga or Aquila for mob backline? I've been seeing either or on some teams for w15

[stark quiver]

Aquila

[summer cove]

is it worth getting blueprints from the event shop?

[undone plover]

they are the latest season BP so rly good
I say get DR
PR is less important

[summer cove]

what does BP stand for?

[vale spindle]

Check datamine in pins for event shop priority

[undone plover]

blueprints
the thing u asked about

[summer cove]

there is no event shop prio info in the pin

[summer cove]

oh, okay

[vale spindle]

No u have to click the google sheet link then click the shop priority tab

[summer cove]

ow, didn't know, sry

[barren tapir]

DR > PR but get both if you can

[summer cove]

why is dr better than pr?

[vale spindle]

Rarer + u need more of them

[summer cove]

i see

[undone plover]

DR ships are stronger
they need more prints
DR research gives less DR prints than PR does for PR blueprints
and when u do a season u end up doing a lot of G research which gives u a bunch of PR prints anyway

[stone sluice]

Better to +13 3 Bidders and 3 G7e acoustic, or shall I go for 6 Bidders?

[summer cove]

Thanks for the explanation, is Friederich a DR ship?

[undone plover]

Yes but she is unique in that u can use coin on her in addition to blueprints
u should rly save the event blueprints for their own season
like these ones for DR7

[summer cove]

got it, thanks

[soft raft]

rule of thumb is to only use the blanks on the highest season they go up to
esp for PR1-4 since everyone there excluding Drake, Agir, and Haku can be coined

Oh god does that mean PR5 coining is soon
ᴵ ᶜᵃⁿ ᵃˡʳᵉᵃᵈʸ ᶠᵉᵉˡ ᵗʰᵉ ᵃᵍᵉ ᶜʳᵉᵉᵖ ᶦⁿ, ᴵ ˢᵗᶦˡˡ ʳᵉᵐᵉᵐᵇᵉʳ ʷʰᵉⁿ ᴾᴿ⁵ ʷᵃˢ ⁿᵉʷ

[vale spindle]

I remember when pr3 was new

[hollow gust]

PRake crying

[soft raft]

Unique aug when

[stark quiver]

Will pr8 be released soon, or give it another few months

[soft raft]

should be roughly mid-late July going off of the last two years or so

[stark quiver]

I have a pretty big to do list

[barren tapir]

when is fs5 for pr usually released?

ah, no set schedule?

[cobalt rapids]

I would do 3 bidders then save for 95 kai or do 6 bidders if arent rly into subs

[soft raft]

going off of the patchnotes pages for the past two years, August during the EN Anniv event

It used to be alot more sporadic prior to 2022

[barren tapir]

ty i hope halfords is gud

[stone sluice]

Is that rainbow sub torp that good or a priority?

[cobalt rapids]

Sub torps arent rly priorities

So 6 bidders ( or 0 ) if u dont plan to hyper invest into subs

[undone plover]

is HE sushi expected to desync from the rest of BBs?

[cobalt rapids]

Depends on her gun

[undone plover]

isnt HE just twin410 kai?

[cobalt rapids]

And the rest of bb guns

Twin 410 kai is like an unsynced +13 mk7 on her

[undone plover]

so if u run helena u would run mk7?

[cobalt rapids]

Maybe

Considering i dont have a 3rd +13 mk7 prob not

[eager mulch]

why not

[cobalt rapids]

Coz i dont have plates

[zenith heron]

Speaking of 13+ equipments? Are there stats that increase on equips other than OPS bonus or it depends on the equip?

[mellow cape]

6 months is enough time to finish the pr7 series and at least one la9 right?

catching up is a pain

[viscid swift]

just about

[cobalt rapids]

Offensive gear get increased coeff or direct ordnance dmg on planes which translate to 18% more dmg from that gear at +13

[soft raft]

is it 357 or 375 pts per META fight you kill?
trying to do the math proper on if I can get 25k before NagatoM leaves (Esp without assits since my phone has a non-zero chance to forcibly relaunch the game and thus eat the assit attempt) but I rarely pay attention

[cobalt rapids]

375 for host 75 for support

[soft raft]

ight
Also I wonder, what's the mininum damage score for 75? I consistently get 73 and it seems to go up to the low 100ks

[zenith heron]

Thanks for this, last thing tho, for the UR upgrade, is the Quint mag torps better than the Quads? Or is it just a niche

[soft raft]

roughly identical
Which also makes it not really worth the resources

[barren tapir]

sidegrade iirc in most cases

[cobalt rapids]

Sidegrade, 3 times more expensive but staggered timing

[barren tapir]

[undone plover]

this is from CN wiki
looks like around 70% minimum for 75 pts

[barren tapir]

i'm glad the assist value diff is not much for being noob

[soft raft]

Hmmmmm
I'm guessing the damage check doesnt take into account support fire

[cobalt rapids]

Theres no support fire on support fights

[undone plover]

there is no supp fire on assists but also idk how accurate that CN chart is tbh

[barren tapir]

0-10% and 10-25% seem accurate at least for me cant say anything for higher since my highest has been mid 200ks

[soft raft]

oh right
tho I think my average support numbers are a bit lower than that supposed threshold, but it's fairly inconsistent
Probably because my comps arent as optimized

[undone plover]

tbh hitting 1 mil with 3 IJN is pretty easy

and overall consistent since first 2 rotations nagaM is stationary

[soft raft]

for me it's more like I lack the sufficent tech and enough +13 equips Also I got lazy raising Amagi CV

Though I dont mind 2-shotting

[hollow gust]

I think it's possible to oneshot with mostly +10

[barren tapir]

oh i broke the 300k barrier now with the ju87s on amagi too low still to see if 25-45 is correct though

[undone plover]

who are u using

[barren tapir]

#trophy-room noob fleet, and yes uni isnt a good option but even with uni portland dies with 20s left so

[undone plover]

oh I see I didnt know u are very new sry

[eternal moth]

Are you using manjuu on anyone?

[fresh briar]

Which should I delete

[barren tapir]

i havent unlocked manjuu yet it will happen soon i promise i will grab enty from medals this month and go 3-4 for yorktown

[eternal moth]

Use dupes to LB before deleting anyone

[barren tapir]

idr how many stars u need for it

[undone plover]

u need 16 so pretty much MLB all

[eternal moth]

You have a level 20 and a level 19 Whydah... why?

[barren tapir]

but yeah that is my standard assist result

[undone plover]

the good thing is yorki and hornet are also great CV tech so u want to MLB and raise them anyway

[eternal moth]

AND a level 65 Whydah

[fresh briar]

Because of commission?

[barren tapir]

portdoll

[eternal moth]

Unlock the other 2 and use them to LB Whydah

[barren tapir]

and before u ask im also working on beaver slowly tho getting the fletchers up to 70 over time with dorm when im offline and exercises

[undone plover]

have u tried toolkit? I think it is not too bad this fight cuz of the heal mechanic

or beaver tag

uni can also run converging TB
nagaM is pretty stationary most of the fight

[barren tapir]

in checks notes 1 month it will be solved with anchorage anyway

[viscid swift]

she'll be gone by then

[eternal moth]

You don't need an FS5 Ancho to make her good

[fresh briar]

Which ship should I delete

[barren tapir]

i already have nagatom mlbed was talking meta fight in general

[eternal moth]

Did you read anything I read?

[barren tapir]

30 days for 314 blueprints, i got her yesterday lol

[undone plover]

did u use catchup on AvP?

[viscid swift]

you would be suprised at how little some of the METAs need a tank

[undone plover]

or saving for protocore

[fresh briar]

I Already did it bruh and there's no way I can Lb them I don't have a damn duplicate ship

[barren tapir]

havent done pr4 catchup yet, it's on neptune now for protocore and then yeah im gonna use it on avp

[eternal moth]

Unlock the 19 and 20, and you can use them to LB your 65 Whyday once she hits 70.

[fresh briar]

I already lb him

[elfin hollow]

bro said him

[eternal moth]

I'd get rid of any common or rare drop ships before elites

[viscid swift]

non zero chance this is after all those have been tossed

[eternal moth]

Shoulda bought dock space with gems then

[undone plover]

check this list
all these (except the gold ships) are easily re-aquirable if u want to get them back later
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ship_Drops

and these https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Guild_Shop
dont retire stuff u actually need like unicorn

[barren tapir]

welp that's a lot of work, youll have to go and see which have good tech vs bad tech then toss the bad tech if you really cant expand dock more

[undone plover]

after these u can start with perma gacha gray/blue and maybe purples
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building#Permanent_Construction

[barren tapir]

also only toss ships that are droppable in campaign because even permanent ship can be really hard to obtain again

but yeah unfortunately you've run into the reason why we stress so much to spend gems on dock space game really is not playable without at least a moderate investment into dock

[fresh briar]

[eternal moth]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/ Use this to figure out what to get rid of

[barren tapir]

[undone plover]

also we recommend f2p players save gems for dockspace (after 3rd dorm slot and 2nd floor)
so if u have any gems left make sure you do that
u get more gems for 3 starring the campaign maps and like 2-3 times/year from events

[barren tapir]

also memento collection stuff, 40 dock slots there in total

[zenith heron]

In paper, Faction Buffs are bad on Meowfficers except the Wolf Talent?

[eternal moth]

For the most part, yeah.

[crimson rock]

would the current event characters fit into this lineup or should i not bother?

[undone plover]

how many gold bulins do u have? and where are u in campaign?

[crimson rock]

9-1

[forest palm]

Giulio is BB hit

[eternal moth]

Other than moving Musashi to the middle, that should be a great boss fleet.

[viscid swift]

not at those limit breaks

[undone plover]

do u have unicorn raised?

actually just post your whole dock

[crimson rock]

doesn't that hurt shinana's performance?

[viscid swift]

not in the slightest

[eternal moth]

lol Nano barrage

[undone plover]

would raising the collabs hurt a new player progression cuz no faction tech?

[eternal moth]

Obviously at 13 Musashi isn't cut out for anything, but once you're able to get her to at least 2 limit break and you'll be ok. You do need to get Amagi to max though

No, they're strong enough on their own that they should be good to add

At least the golds. Fleet tech is typically more important late-game anyway

[forest palm]

considering they'd benefit nothing from them in a way, yes

[undone plover]

yeah I think they are good enough that u would use them for a while in opsi as well so def worth

[barren tapir]

idk about raising all 3 but imo using one to fill a spot you could use better ship for should be pretty viable/good

would probably suggest lala as a portland replacement, or yami as a good gold bb.

nana and momo REALLY REALLY REALLY need their augments to excel and thus arent the best pick for new players

[undone plover]

oh for sure I wasnt necessarily thinking of raising all the golds
but raising the BB over hood is decent I think
esp when RN isnt that needed early on

[forest palm]

that collab ships give no faction, or fleet tech hurts, and that they're easily replaceable the moment you start getting into Research Ships doesn't help much either

the only reason you may use them is cause you got lucky enough to MLB one, or two on their own without Bulins

[eternal moth]

You won't be able to get the ships after this event, so not having the aug isn't really an issue

[barren tapir]

wat

i assume we're talking while theyre accessible, ie right now

[undone plover]

I think aurora meant the gold investment is a lot

[eternal moth]

Ah, ok, that makes sense then

[barren tapir]

only yami is usable without aug imo, lala at a stretch. forget about nana and momo without aug we're talking missing over 50% of their dps output...

[undone plover]

was it 15k gold for aug 0 > 10?

[barren tapir]

11k

kinda hefty on top of gold bulins and gold mlb cost, that's why

[undone plover]

I wouldnt say it is too bad then

[forest palm]

that's coin that could go to research ships

[barren tapir]

when ur busy trying to retro unicorn portland starter it does cost more than it's worth there imo

[forest palm]

the opportunity cost just isn't there for collab ships

[viscid swift]

the bigger issue is that they only have 5 gold bullins

[barren tapir]

lala is fine enough portland replacement without aug tho if you want. more expensive but even without aug her dmg should be a solid hunk higher than portland with minor support and slightly higher durability

[storm heron]

only raise collab ships if you like them, there's really no benefit long term

[slender turtle]

If im farming for gold, should I just spam event stage 5? Or just do the usual 12-4?

[eternal moth]

We're not talking about any specific person.

[undone plover]

I agree the min/max option is not using them for sure but I dont think using 1-2 will hurt your research progression that hard
We recommend ppl use hood and she only gives useless RN tech

[barren tapir]

i dont think theyre a good investment early besides maybe yami but for midgame theyre all very very competent ships that'd only actually get replaced by research or URs so i disagree with them not having value. it's not like youll obtain all the good research ships overnight.

[viscid swift]

the question was brought about by a question for a 2nd fleet and the collab vanguards

[undone plover]

tbh I was also just curious in general

[storm heron]

I think instead of hood, people should raise nelson instead

[barren tapir]

yami is cheaper than hood btw, hood needs to actually CRAFT her augment

extra 10k, + 15 aug cores + needs 2x aug exp

so shes prolly the best collab ship for a newbie as a direct equivalent while being noticeably cheaper

and with her augment she's straight up superior (an augment that costs 50% less)

[undone plover]

is yami golden darkness?

[storm heron]

I thought it's konjiki no yami

[barren tapir]

yami shorter and im lazy

[little yoke]

hello. Is using a capped ship (lvl 120 or 125) on battle still contributes EXP to shipyard research exp goals?

[storm heron]

/expgrind

[little yoke]

[soft raft]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[storm heron]

where's the old w15 tier list?

[atomic abyss]

/w15 It's linked somewhere in this doc

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[atomic abyss]

If it isn't well, suchi folded it into the main one

[junior walrus]

Is there a quick/easy explanation for why i want to rush OpSi chapter 4? Is it just better gear lab rewards?

[storm heron]

no more SS tier

[weary gust]

It's so opsi resets each month and you can rebuy the shop items.

[storm heron]

more consistent rewards, quality of life upgrade

at the end you will have vouchers to buy things you need like the HECLPs

[junior walrus]

The chapters reset every month or just the shop?

[barren tapir]

also changes opsi shop format to the new one which is so much better than rng shit

[weary gust]

The map resets, so you can get clearing rewards again, and the shop restocks.

[storm heron]

just the shop

remember the shop you have before chapter 4?

[weary gust]

Story progression/achievements/collections are all permanent.

[junior walrus]

So if I run out of Ap at any point and have time to grind i should definitely use it

i just got chapter 2 unlocked

[slender turtle]

If im farming for gold, should i just spam event for low oil cost? or jsut keep doing 12-4?

[barren tapir]

12-4

[undone plover]

ideally u farm event for 55k tokens
but if u need gold u can farm 12-4 every now and then as well

[storm heron]

well now the shop is a supermarket instead of some random neighbourhood in-house store which doesn't even sell rice and eggs each day

[barren tapir]

what

[soft raft]

12-4 if you're done with the event

[barren tapir]

...i guess that works for analogy

[viscid swift]

one which doesn't make sense

[soft raft]

wouldnt be surprised if T5 is about as efficent as W10-11 like the usual D3 maps

[barren tapir]

supermarket one makes sense...i think...

dunno if in house store is the best...

[storm heron]

depends on what you need, if the characters hold a sentimental value to you then do 12-4 first for coins, and then use your spare oil to grind for the event

[keen sable]

Huh?

[barren tapir]

maybe it goes from being a gachapon machine to being a proper store?

[storm heron]

actually yes, it will help you progress faster

[keen sable]

Chapter 4 shouldn't use a lot of ap. Now if you were wasting it farming c1...

[junior walrus]

You get action point refills to regain AP if you run out. I'm still progressing through the stages. My question is should i just work with the daily amount they give me or use the AP refills to get the chapter 4 faster?

[barren tapir]

eh, it uses a decent bit, it drops you into c4 and c5 zones iirc?

keep in mind you dont get daily missions giving resources and ap and stuff until you finish chapter 4 iirc

[keen sable]

Use it or lose it

[storm heron]

u don't lose it before chapter 4

[barren tapir]

use all ur ap box before the month ends if you reach ch4 in time

[storm heron]

anyways just use all your ap boxes to progress faster to chapter 4