gameplay-help

[lyric garnet]

also for ex: how to find armor in enemy except siren? for example if the enemy is nagato, just check in my dock/ship information which it's same for enemy

[tame jungle]

usually that's the case yeah, for campaign you can go to nagami's site and use the node viewer to see what enemies you're facing

https://azurlane.nagami.moe/nodes

[red token]

Didn't know such a thing existed XD

[tame jungle]

AVP uses backline ships for the grind, so you can narrow that down to those (no need to use IB frontline too)

[spark ridge]

im assuming its best to use up the loggers tho instead of letting them convert?

[silk sphinx]

Loggers for region 2 isn’t worth it

[tame jungle]

to buy from shop ^ right?

[silk sphinx]

Yep

Tbh even doing it is very low rewards

Especially since no Akashi spawn

[tame jungle]

i just do them anyway bc i hate seeing the icons

[sharp echo]

i read that new player should unlock dorm train exp. should i unlock now or later?

[silk sphinx]

Third slot? Go for it sure

[tame jungle]

usual recommendation is 3rd slot then 2nd floor for 6 slots total

[spring bolt]

if you are not f2p, unlock all 6

[silk sphinx]

I’m not f2p and still don’t

Useful early on, lategame you’re cog capped

[past jackal]

is there any easy main fleet iron blood I can get ? currently i have 0 iron blood cv bb bc

[silk sphinx]

Check sams website

[tame jungle]

bismarck tirpitz come to mind

[silk sphinx]

He has an entire page on that stuff

[sharp echo]

keep buy unicorn helena and port penny for lb?

[silk sphinx]

You can do that sure if you have enough

Guild coins aren’t too hard to come by

[spring bolt]

to reach cog cap, you will need to grind extremely hard...
i mean i am 40ish ships to reach max tech, i didn't really got cog capped

[sharp echo]

roger

[silk sphinx]

But save some for stuff

[red token]

Oh im stupid... well then here are my main fleet iron blood ships

[tame jungle]

since you're quite far along with their limit breaks i'd use ulrich bismarck graf zeppelin

[prime glacier]

what should i buy from event store?

[tame jungle]

check the pinned messages in this channel, look for the datamine link

[bold salmon]

is the new repair tool good?

[tame jungle]

good to use alongside a purple one

[spring bolt]

slightly worse than real repair tool but better than most 550 hp auxes

[tawdry topaz]

any ways to get DR7 prints aside from research and events?

[tame jungle]

nvm i EN'd

[prime glacier]

can't really understand that excel file

[tame jungle]

you went to shop priority, right?

[wet badge]

How does bro have a mlb uvh for what sounds like a beginner

[soft raft]

Did you forget that alot of the datamine is still empty this time around

[tame jungle]

shop priority isn't

[cinder hornet]

how much of this is worth farming for? I read the last two boxes are not, but should I try to get 70k then?

[tame jungle]

55k for gold plates, 60k for ship if you care

[red token]

Im not, im just a stupid fart who has no idea what to use half the time as i don't think the slaimuda site is always necessary for ship teams ;-;

[past jackal]

stop farming after that ?

[tame jungle]

sure

[prime glacier]

that wakatsuki event shop is expired event?

[tame jungle]

i'll just screenshot it

[soft raft]

yup
that was for Musashi rerun that already ended

[red token]

Speaking of said Yamato class ship. Is it possible for her to be the next ship added to the free line up much like shinano, shimakaze, and the others?

[past jackal]

I just reached 60k as of this conversation 🤣🤣🤣

[soft raft]

Nop
She literally just reran

[prime glacier]

yes i found it, thanks!

[tame jungle]

probably in a year or so

at least not anytime soon

[red token]

How in the-

[soft raft]

Whoops forgot to add UvH being archived but you get the point

[red token]

Oh ok

[past jackal]

have 5 fleet of ship, I run 8 sorties with each of it, morning afternoon and night. Am I playing too much. Lel

[spring bolt]

not now, dev will add them into proto shop before pr8, probably next Jan or Feb
but usually quite expensive

[red token]

Oh i see because of affection drops

[soft raft]

way too expensive yeah
6 BPs worth of protocore per BP

[prime glacier]

on the event on SP should i kill all ships?

[tame jungle]

kill until boss appears then kill that

[soft raft]

just kill the mininum needed to spawn the boss as per usual

[tame jungle]

there's no additional rewards for 3* clear since that's not a thing for SP

[spark scaffold]

Which is a better CL ship between Guichen and Marseillaise?

[hollow gust]

Mar is prob gonna be more useful

Only cause she has fp tech

[spark scaffold]

Yeah after i see her kit again, it make sense.

[hollow gust]

Performance doesn't matter between the two

[keen sable]

You can have six fleets so...

[past jackal]

How about pulling girls, stop after getting a copy of ea event girl ?

[keen sable]

You don't pull the 0.5%

[forest palm]

more like you should not

[past jackal]

I actually got all after around 50 pull, I continue to pull because its fun, gamba

[remote quarry]

Might wanna make sure you save some cubes. next event should be a new UR

[keen sable]

I prefer getting all ships, not just this event, but it's your game

[past jackal]

ahhh

start saving then

[junior walrus]

im saving for UR event fosho

[past jackal]

Got 2 momo

[keen sable]

There's always a next event... until the heat death of test site beta or whatever it's called.

[junior walrus]

is there a chance to get a UR from a random pull at all?

[remote quarry]

1.2% chance, I believe

[past jackal]

800 pull no UR lel

UR exchange yup

[keen sable]

less if you try in event or light

[junior walrus]

I thoughtat 400 you get one for free

[remote quarry]

you do

[keen sable]

You do if it says you do

[forest palm]

UR ships aren't included in SSR event pools, and even when there's a UR event the gacha UR is the only one in the pool

[remote quarry]

yes, permanenet pools only

[junior walrus]

getting blueprints is so slow btw. Is there any way to speed this up outside of the hardmode stages?

[remote quarry]

nope

[past jackal]

I been hyping myself up for nothing, I save up 20+ k oil before the collab event. Plenty of time to get the pulls I need.

Btw when is the next event ?

[keen sable]

Not particularly. Guild Shop and 3*

[remote quarry]

Wil llikely be announced next week. Probably when the next event ends, maybe with a small gap

[keen sable]

New events always end of month although you never know when they might do a mini or rerun

[past jackal]

Can I catch a break developer-san. 2 week event, mini rerun event 🥲

[remote quarry]

The breaks come when you start getting reruns of events you already completed. So, around 2 years after you started

[past jackal]

Teme, I'm only 3 months in.

[sharp echo]

quantity or cooldown?

[remote quarry]

They're blue gear. Really does not matter which one you use

[low lintel]

Hey so this is the gear for my ship, but she's dying a lot in opsi and while i get it's cause some part of it is the level. Could any of my gear be optimized? Currently all the gear i equipped is all i have

[sharp echo]

but in general which one is better? for later stages

[remote quarry]

Lvel for sure. Also might want to replace tooklit with Beaver badge

[remote quarry]

neither. It will be replaced ASAP

[low lintel]

I haven't gotten it yet unfortunately, i can't find thacther anywhere

But beaver badge can only be obtained once right?

[sharp echo]

i know, i mean for higher rarity module later. in general which one is priority

[soft raft]

what is your tuning like compared to the content you were trying to clear?
Tuning's very important for the harder stuff like Arbiter and etc

[prime glacier]

what is this?

[remote quarry]

Thatcher drop locations. Get to grinding

[soft raft]

chat frame

[prime glacier]

what shuld i focus on the black friday shop?

[summer cove]

you get the drop spots from the wiki?

[prime glacier]

got the yellow foder

[eternal moth]

Buy the prints, then the spec core, then the bulins

[remote quarry]

yes

[low lintel]

Offense 95
Health 116
Tactics 91

[remote quarry]

way too low.

[eternal moth]

You should really be able to buy everything as long as you're active

[soft raft]

and what content in OpSi were you trying to do?

[prime glacier]

is momo really worth it?

[low lintel]

Stronghold 💀

[soft raft]

Yeah no that's way too low bro 💀

[eternal moth]

She's pretty good, but the important thing to remember is that this event probably won't rerun

[prime glacier]

oh I can buy 5 of her, would that be worth it?

[low lintel]

I'll work on leveling characters after the event but what's an ideal number for tuning?

[tame jungle]

just get 1 when the event is done

[soft raft]

1 copy yes
The other 4 would just be expensive af bullins at that point

[tame jungle]

also while farming more points on T5 she can drop + she might appear in event builds too which would be "points wasted"

[soft raft]

you need at least 188/188/144 for strongholds, but the closer you can get to 203/203/156, the better

[low lintel]

I'll keep that in mind

When the next season of opsi resets, does the tunning also reset?

[remote quarry]

yes

[low lintel]

Alright

[summer cove]

is it worth to invest in submarines?

[remote quarry]

They can be a help in some difficult content. I would pick a single fleet, build them up, and thats all

[summer cove]

ye thats what im doing, so far my 3 best ships are Unicorn, Hood and San Diego

i just got San Diego's unique augment to lv10 but still didnt retrofit her to max

[remote quarry]

I meant a sub fleet

[summer cove]

oh

[soft raft]

sounds like submarines arent a urgent prio for you right now then

they mostly come into play at like W14-15

[summer cove]

yeah no way im still at chapter 9

i started last week

[ember forge]

are the new collab ship worth invest ?

[eternal moth]

They're all pretty good, but if all you're chasing is the meta ships, I don't think they're quite at that level

[tame jungle]

the gold ones seem ok
purple ones very meh

you need augment for any of them to be useful

[junior walrus]

I’m assuming this is some kind of flex I don’t understand yet

[tame jungle]

it is

[soft raft]

Eh

[eternal moth]

Not really a flex so much as a fleet they want to show off

[viscid swift]

nah

[zinc flower]

Guys do my teams suck? And if so, what do i need to change?

[fallen arch]

Yeah METAs are fairly easy to get beyond those that dropped in banners

[eternal moth]

A lot of people just put their favorite ships in the defense fleet, like this

[viscid swift]

say bye to NJ, Laffey 2, Zwei, and UvH for one

until they're MLB anyway

[zinc flower]

I only have 2 MLB URs

[spring bolt]

real flex put 6 lv125 white ships in defense

[summer cove]

isnt Laffey 2 and UvH op?

[viscid swift]

not at those limit breaks

[remote quarry]

And I am very grateful for that fact, as I aim for AotN every season

[fallen arch]

oh yeah, is there a priority in which URs I should MLB first or does it not matter whoever I get there first?

[eternal moth]

I'd go for main fleet before vanguards

[viscid swift]

there is a priority but depends on what URs, what you have, how many bullins, etc

[junior walrus]

Save for Gold Bulin?

[zinc flower]

So what exactly am i supposed to do?

[eternal moth]

Just take the cube

[viscid swift]

well to start replace the ships I just said to replace

[zinc flower]

Replace them with SRs?

[remote quarry]

Use other ships until you get more UR Bulins

[eternal moth]

If they're limit broken, yes

[zinc flower]

Well that means i'm gonna have to build 4 units from scratch

[viscid swift]

make sure on of them is Unicorn

[zinc flower]

Oh yeah unicorn is built

[remote quarry]

They are all useful for fleet tech anyway, so it is not a waste

[soft raft]

ignoring the lack of limit breaks, Laffey II is pog yes
UvH less so (Esp compared to other UR BBs)

[fallen arch]

I think I'm sitting on like 60k worth of the resource needed for the UR Bulin, and lemme check..

[zinc flower]

Should i focus one UR till i MLB then move on to another or do multiple at the same time? Probably the first but just asking

[eternal moth]

Then why aren't you limit breaking your ships?

[remote quarry]

absolutely

[eternal moth]

Focus on one at a time

[zinc flower]

Ok so how do i know who i should replace them with?

[fallen arch]

Amagi (CV) is 3 star
Musashi is 3 star
Bismarck Zwei is 4 star
Unzen is 5 star
Shimakaze is 5 star
Yorktown II is 3 star
Vanguard is 5 star
Soyuz is 5 star
Kronshtadt is 5 star

[soft raft]

At this point just make a thread man

[eternal moth]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

[fallen arch]

Been using gold to do other stuff tbh lmao

[summer cove]

what do you guys think would be the UR that would carry me the most to put the UR bulins into? Friederich?

[zinc flower]

Of my dock?

[soft raft]

this janky ass back and forth wont really help us help you

[eternal moth]

Musashi if you have her

[soft raft]

Research URs like FdG Dont take UR Bullins

[summer cove]

oh Friederich does not use UR bulins

[summer cove]

Sadly i didnt get her

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[soft raft]

she's a research ship
And they have their own blueprint system for both limit breaks (At D10/20/30) and enhancements

[summer cove]

oh yeah true, i knew but i just forgot lol, thanks

[fallen arch]

oh I forgot Mogador and Alsace also at 5 star

[junior walrus]

no cap i skipped all the dialogue when it was explaining OpSi. Am i cooked?

[whole crypt]

don't split up your UR bulins

[wind hazel]

nahhh

[lofty zodiac]

Help icon top left or sam guide

[whole crypt]

finish off BisZwei, Soyuz and Alsace I guess

[eternal moth]

I don't think Sam has an OpSi guide does he?

[fallen arch]

Oki oki

Will do

[zinc flower]

Alright so how do i make a thread exactly?

[whole crypt]

do you have Shinano or are you close to being able to claim Shinano from pity

[whole crypt]

use this button

[fallen arch]

She's MLB already lol

[whole crypt]

then MLB Amagi CV as well to use with her

[fallen arch]

Alrighty

[zinc flower]

Yeah i don't see that

[fallen arch]

My MLBs are Guam, Shinano, NJ, UvH and Laffey II. A bit all over the place

[eternal moth]

I made one for you

[whole crypt]

having Guam and Laffey II maxed is nice

but anyway you can LB more if you can afford it, picked based on a role you need to raise
just make sure you keep enough to not be stuck when new UR comes in Dec

[fallen arch]

hmm okay.

I've just been taking it very chill which is why I'm loaded on prototype cores to begin with

[junior walrus]

is there a simple explination to the point of OpSi?? Is it just to farm resources for gear labs?

[eternal moth]

Pretty much

[lofty zodiac]

@junior walrus https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/farming#farming_opsi
It's at the bottom of the farming guide

[eternal moth]

Good to know, thanks

[whole crypt]

some really chill folks don't have enough spec cores, just to be sure you're looking at the right currency, stocking takes time because there's a monthly cap and needs you to at least be playing a bit

[fallen arch]

You get some of the best gear from it. Get to it as soon as you can, don't make my mistake of only getting into it two months ago after playing almost 2 years of this game lmao.

[junior walrus]

seems pretty simple, full clear everything lol

[fallen arch]

This is it right?

[zinc flower]

Thoughts?

[whole crypt]

yes that is spec cores, proto type cores is the blue one to the left of it

[fallen arch]

oh

my bad then, got the names wrong lmao

[whole crypt]

so yeh you could get quite a number of them to get LBing, but the coin cost can add up so you might want to space it out a little

[keen sable]

No

[fallen arch]

Yeaah I'll prolly do that.

[keen sable]

No ops = no bis gear(ie +13)

[keen sable]

Tl;dr do everything

[whole crypt]

if you want to LB more in a week or two I suggest you post it as a screenshot filtered to your rainbow ships, so it's clearer what you have, and what LB they're at, usually recommendations will be based on prioritizing roles you lack first

[gusty shale]

how do i get unicorn to lvl 120?

[eternal moth]

Use her in your mob fleet

[whole crypt]

you keep using her in stages to gain XP
if you're capped by limit break (lv70/80/90) then limit break her
if you're capped by cognitive awakening (lv100+) then awaken her by tapping on the XP bar

[remote quarry]

use her in battle, cognitive awaken her when required

[gusty shale]

bro what

[whole crypt]

bro what

[gusty shale]

thats to much

[whole crypt]

we don't even know what you're stuck with

[gusty shale]

she is gonna stay at lvl 100 i guees thats better

[gusty shale]

me too

[whole crypt]

if she's stuck at level 100 go to her screen in dock, then tap on her XP bar

[gusty shale]

okey

[eternal moth]

See where it says Awakening? Click that and awaken her

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Level_Advantage for any ships you will keep using later into the game you basically have to awaken them

[gusty shale]

OMG

[eternal moth]

That's the limit break page. Go to Info

[gusty shale]

i found it

[whole crypt]

well not now I already gave you the recommendations for now, I mean when you need to do more again later

[whole crypt]

also: retrofit your unicorn

[fallen arch]

Ah my bad
Thanks for the help either way!

[gusty shale]

that sounds hard

[whole crypt]

that sounds like you skipped one part of the game's mechanics that is asked of you in the newbie missions

[gusty shale]

haha nah im joking

[summer cove]

is any of the event auxiliary gear good?

[gusty shale]

but i rlly dont know how to get the retroit items

[whole crypt]

most of it you get from running campaign hard mode 3 times a day, it will also be your primary source of core data so you basically have to do it

the 4 maps in a chapter will each drop the prints for a different hull type, x-1 drops for DDs, x-2 for cruisers, x-3 for BBs and x-4 for CVs

[gusty shale]

damn

i also have so many items that i dont know the meaning

[whole crypt]

augments will go onto the respective event ships only
if you want to use them generally they will want their augment
unless you mean the auxiliary gear then I have no idea haven't checked the stats

[remote quarry]

A couple of the Aux gear look useful. There is a cosmic Kicks sidegrade that looks decent for PvP

[summer cove]

sorry i meant the auxiliary gear

[junior walrus]

what happens when a unit in a fleet dies during OpSi? Do i just use daily repair to fix or is there something else i can do?

[bold salmon]

blue docks you can repair

[wind hazel]

fix them at blue port, or use fleet deployment for free heal every 24hr

[junior walrus]

Should i save my repair units in storage for later stages?

[jaunty vault]

repair unit?

[jaunty vault]

oh use them as you wish

you get a lot of those

[tame jungle]

you'll be running most content with your mob fleet so you'll have way more of those than you need eventually

[ivory pawn]

You’ll need to go to a blue port and choose Port > Formation to remove the Toils of War debuff if any of your ships sink.

Or use the free daily fleet deployment heal.

[flint moss]

Who to spend my bulins on? The rest of my URs for reference.

[cobalt rapids]

vanguard or save

[crimson glacier]

either vanguard or mog

[junior walrus]

Word the amount of battles i can do in this mode is reset daily?

[left cedar]

new UR next month ... why invest in Vang if she already being replaced

[crimson glacier]

id probably rather go mog or save

[cobalt rapids]

esdeath with the insider info that december will have a UR bb

[crimson glacier]

or you know, he just has many top of the line BBs already

[wind hazel]

what mode

[flint moss]

I’m thinking mog as well. Poi is my only other real gunboat

[junior walrus]

Blue Port is like Ny City right?

[jaunty vault]

yes, like ny city

[crimson glacier]

i guess gunboats are nice too, but im mostly thinking about her stop potential for meta battles

[tame jungle]

ok?

[soft raft]

Literally who asked

[junior walrus]

noted

[jaunty vault]

i stole your money

[soft raft]

I mean like that sucks but you could've chosen anywhere else to bitch about IRL stuff than here

[wind hazel]

i have aids

[ivory pawn]

It’s like 1 AP per 10 min or something like that. Just another stamina bar that refills over time.

[keen sable]

You don't use them with unicorn retro

If ships die they don't help (much) either

[stark quiver]

Are most of the mobs in 12-1 light armor

[barren tapir]

144 ap a day through passive regeneration, you also have plenty of ap boxes youll get from various sources (ports, clear rewards, dailies, akashi merchant spawns)

you can play infinitely in corrosion 1 secured stages

[wind hazel]

more or less, mix medium here and there https://azurlane.nagami.moe/nodes

[stark quiver]

I guess ima run mk7s?

[wind hazel]

ye sure

[maiden adder]

Nagato-Meta, I want to one cycle her, what can I do with my gears as it's the only thing I can think of unless there are other ships I should use

[prime glacier]

dayum that gear

[crimson glacier]

well id assume that carrier teams are just better

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[crimson glacier]

and cn wiki always has team comps

[junior walrus]

i really dont like that unicorn calls my brother in the same line to accepting my proposal

[cobalt rapids]

bruh this isnt game feedback

[wind hazel]

why not, onii-chan

[crimson glacier]

thats why you save rings for the stuff that matters

[viscid swift]

You can definitely do better for ship choice

[barren tapir]

first, #al-general or #game-feedback , second, there's 700+ shipgirls for a reason, if you don't like one personality you can find many others

[hollow gust]

No Helena BB comps don't oneshot

[maiden adder]

Love being shackled to Helena like an ex gf

[crimson glacier]

or just use carriers

[hollow gust]

~~ pre patch Amagi , no way she loses to haku ~~

[crimson glacier]

BBs are at disadvantage on heavy armor

[hollow gust]

BBs are only close on medium

[viscid swift]

Rng can be a fickle mistress

[barren tapir]

historically accurate

[cobalt rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OhHfuxugyY what is this then

[crimson glacier]

id assume the difference its at its biggest on heavy

[hollow gust]

Crit fishing and that's max tech

[barren tapir]

that's suchi

[maiden adder]

I just need to get my carrier gear up, thank you guys!

[keen sable]

Most mobs everywhere are light armor but what does it matter when they have 300 hp that any bb can kill with an ap shell even. What you need to kill is the dangerous stuff.

[prime glacier]

what should i do with purple bulins? I have a ton of them

[barren tapir]

limitbreak ships

if you've mlbed every ship then just retire them i guess. hold onto like 8-10 just in case

[keen sable]

~~If poor you can scrap a few ~~

[prime glacier]

is that a good place to spend my xp books?

to lvl 70 purples?

[barren tapir]

are you at a stage when you are tech farming

[keen sable]

If you produce xp books you can basically do anything you want with them

[junior walrus]

Are any of these cats worth any sort of investment?

[mellow cape]

Out of all the pr6 ships I can fate max, which one to do first?

[prime glacier]

i have 1530 xp books

[forest palm]

couldn't tell would need to see their talents

[inland shoal]

Impossible to tell, whether a cat is worth or not depends mostly on its starting talents

[stark quiver]

Shimanto

[prime glacier]

I farm for FdG

[barren tapir]

you didnt show the talents so

but also early on you just use whatever you got so they gain exp. as cats can be fed to other cats (catnniballism) for like...70% of the exp or so

[prime glacier]

i think I can start now

[barren tapir]

always use a cat

[inland shoal]

I usually use exp books to get the ships I'll use next to a usable level

[forest palm]

LV 30 SSR Cats on Ops Mobbing

[barren tapir]

i use book to get ship to lb2 if i have dupes of them

otherwise whatever books i need to make them not die in whatever i'm throwing them into

[inland shoal]

Does Akashi count?

[mellow cape]

Okay after shimato, Felix or flandre

[keen sable]

Just use Oscar bish on mob

[barren tapir]

if she was a meowfficer

[inland shoal]

Well the ones you shared here are all bad

[junior walrus]

All I have bruddah

But I saw someone say last night early game don’t reroll them

[barren tapir]

just use what you got, cat maxxing is endgame (beyond endgame, arguably)

[keen sable]

Pounds lime on boss

You can't reroll something you have no xp on

[inland shoal]

I would just not bother getting perfect cats, imo not worth the effort. Decent cats are good enough

[barren tapir]

the only important cat maxxing to care about early is ensuring your opsi mob fleet has your 2 highest level gold cats regardless of their talent

[barren tapir]

only worth it to stay below coin hardcap or something

[keen sable]

You roll perfect cats first. Then you reroll them into perfecter cats.

[barren tapir]

or you just sit on tempesta cats forever

[cobalt rapids]

99% of gamblers quit before they win

also if theres nothing to do with coin and theres no banner in the near future theres no point going above coincap if u could spend on cats

[signal pollen]

Should I swap out BB for musashi? (Please ignore drake, I forgot to swap her)

[cobalt rapids]

for what purpose, that looks like campaign fleet ui and u wouldnt rly run 3 bbs in campaign

[signal pollen]

I forgot to say opsi

[soft raft]

is your Musashi MLB?

[cobalt rapids]

replace nj with musashi if mlb

[signal pollen]

No, but I have enough to MLB

[soft raft]

how much spec core do you have?

[signal pollen]

19k. But I’m sitting on 4 rainbow buli

[prime glacier]

worth using purple bulins on blue ships?

[mellow cape]

Shimato is done but now it's between Felix and flandre. I don't have enough BPs for both

[soft raft]

at that point it doesnt matter
realistically both of them are pretty whatever in the long term

[prime glacier]

I used the bulins on Iron blood ships for the texh points

[mellow cape]

Fair enough

[signal pollen]

Does musashi take the flagship role? I think on of her skills fire in front of whatever lane she’s in right?

[wind hazel]

which one is better if i use wolf pack? double bidder

[cobalt rapids]

her slash part of the barrage

[signal pollen]

Okay, I will level her and put her to flagship. Thank you for the help

[cobalt rapids]

left

[soft raft]

ok then you can safely MLB Musashi and have enough for the next new UR

[eternal moth]

Yes, but that's not the only reason to put a battleship in the flagship spot. It also lets them cover the side lines with their secondary guns and kill bomb boats and anything else that gets through

[signal pollen]

Next new UR in December right

[cobalt rapids]

expected

[eternal moth]

Most carriers can't shoot bomb boats, so having a battleship in the middle means they can cover all 3 lanes if using 2 CV and a BB

[signal pollen]

But if it’s triple bb, does this really matter? I know it kinda does for 1 bb and two cv

[signal pollen]

Oh. Gotcha

[eternal moth]

In all honesty the portion of Musashi's barrage that requires her to be flag is actually really small, so if you're using Plymouth, I'd still put Bismarck Zwei in flag for the damage buff

[signal pollen]

But my Plymouth mlb5 😔 I still want to run her over anchorage

[cobalt rapids]

id put musashi unless ure planning to use her on light
missing her slash is 1/7 from her barrage dmg

[prime glacier]

still have bulins for 1-2 more purples, what would you MLB out of these?

[viscid swift]

Hiryuu, Yamashiro, and/or Shouhou for tech

[barren tapir]

i believe you get plenty of yamashiros from T5 currently so i'd skip her

[prime glacier]

ok I stay at Hiryuu I am out of purple bulins

used like 40

worth london retrofit?

[wind hazel]

not a priority

[prime glacier]

ajax retrofit?

[tame jungle]

Also not a priority

[sharp comet]

is the tick tack kaboom-kun minigame bugged? wtf

[prime glacier]

so purple and below not priority

[eternal moth]

No, why?

[soft raft]

yesnt
It's more of a ship-to-ship basis since there's some good Elite -> SR Retrofits

[tame jungle]

After you get uni portland starter and maybe nelson done it’s honestly kinda whatever who you pick to retrofit

[sharp comet]

i die for no reason even though i follow the arrows lol i die right before i get to 2k score with score mega boost and i retried 7 times wtf

[wind hazel]

skill issue

sometimes the bomb go off really fast

[tame jungle]

Reaction speed game

[wind hazel]

or your memory failed you

[sharp comet]

i rushed 2k with all other powerups yday on first try wtf

[eternal moth]

This one seems to be just a bit faster

[wind hazel]

not bugged, trust

[prime glacier]

nelson retrofit is good?

[tame jungle]

If she wasn’t i would not have put her on the list but it also kinda depends on what ships you have whether she’s worth to prioritize early on imo

[barren tapir]

?

[tame jungle]

Sara also good

But competes with uni’s resources with retrofit and is lower prio

[cursive pecan]

Is there no spark for the collab banner? 150+ pulls and still no Lala

[barren tapir]

the tldr for retros is every retro except like yamashiro/fusou(?) is worth doing if you intend to use the ship but most ships are not worth using for anything but tech, objectively

[viscid swift]

nope

[tame jungle]

No guarantees for SR

[soft raft]

Pity only exists for UR banners

[inland shoal]

There is only pity for UR ships

[barren tapir]

ya true i think shes great if you dont have/didnt get enty from somewhere, otherwise not particularly important early

[inland shoal]

Can someone explain to me how a guildmate is exactly 6 score ahead of me in the minigame? In what nonsense way does the score work that that is even possible?

[barren tapir]

u could also view early retro as sara + hood vs enty + nelson imo

[tame jungle]

I’m not sure what you mean by this

Get the former two if you’re missing the latter from medals?

[barren tapir]

like if you got hood but not enty, sara > nelson. and if you got enty but not hood, nelson > sara

[tame jungle]

Ah right yeah that makes sense

(Or get both sets for the eventual fleet2 )

[gilded carbon]

how does Pity interact with event-banners? Do they count towards it unless they have their own pity?

aka, it just continues to count further

[barren tapir]

the permanent UR thingy counts all pulls from non-UR event and from perma pool based on cubes spent (i forgot if it counts build ticket)

[soft raft]

All non UR banners count towards perament Pity
UR Banners have their own pity that is sepreate from perma pity

[gilded carbon]

thanks

[tame jungle]

Event UR banner pity is separate and don’t get carried over to the next

[inland shoal]

Iirc it does count tickets as their theoretical cubes used

[soft raft]

it do yee

[barren tapir]

based manjuu

[inland shoal]

Though I don't think we ever had a rerun of an event with just 1 cube pulls

[summer cove]

is it worth using elite bulins to mlb for fleet tech points only?

[inland shoal]

So no clue if those tickets would count 1 or 2

[barren tapir]

yes that's their main purpose lol

[soft raft]

iirc we've only had those for CNY and they immideately went archived a year after so I dont think we'll ever see that

[inland shoal]

Once you got your main fleets up to MLB / retro sure

[summer cove]

i see, thanks

[mellow cape]

For a mid game player, what should I focus on the most?

[gilded carbon]

and, it appears i have a surprising amount of Seafangs. Are they acceptable as an Plane while i get better options?

[barren tapir]

standard gold fighter with 2x500 bomb

[summer cove]

and should i use exp books to speed up the lb process skipping the leveling part? (to get fleet tech faster)?

[barren tapir]

so yes fine as placeholder before getting better stuff

[soft raft]

there's various interpertations of what's considered "Mid Game" but at that point you should be farming W12 on the regular

[barren tapir]

what even is midgame

[elfin hollow]

i would use exp books to get ships up to 100

then u gradually lvl them up with sorties

[mellow cape]

Pretty much what I've been doing for PR grind

My day to day kinda looks like
12-4 farm, about 2k oil or 2-3 runs
Op si until I run out
And research

I feel like I hit a wall

[eternal moth]

I wouldn't go past 99 at the max for books IMO

[summer cove]

my plan was lvling them to 70 so i mlb them and gain fleet tech points, is that wrong?

[elfin hollow]

or 90 for exp books

[gilded carbon]

thanks. I need some mor farming of OpSi to craft better planes

[barren tapir]

marathon game

[elfin hollow]

thats fine

[eternal moth]

It really depends on what you feel that wall is. Where are you getting stuck?

[barren tapir]

you guys go that far, i dont have a huge amt of books so i go up to like 40 or whatever is enough to survive

[elfin hollow]

what lvl is your guy’s lecture hall

[eternal moth]

Max

[barren tapir]

7 i think, ive put off levelling it more because of coin needs

[elfin hollow]

that explains why

😭

[barren tapir]

[eternal moth]

More books = more XP = easier leveling

Just farm 12-1/12-4 until you have the coins to max it out

[barren tapir]

i'm having 0 issues levelling anything tho

[mellow cape]

I guess my question becomes more of, what should I be focusing on outside of PR and just op si

[barren tapir]

im just frugal with books because of just how many ships im levelling

[eternal moth]

Again, what do you feel is the wall? Are you unable to progress in campaign or what?

[elfin hollow]

yea focus on a few

[barren tapir]

[mellow cape]

Is there a point to campaign past 12-4? I reached 14 but haven't felt a need to complete the campaign yet

[barren tapir]

i was doing tech point grinds for research ships

[cobalt rapids]

i spent almost 1 year in w12 before moving on

[summer cove]

how do you guys grind xp for leveling ships manually? you do sorties with 4 good ships and 2 for leveling?

[desert hound]

Guys can you help me with this puzzle

[barren tapir]

uni + tank with 4 shitters works great on every event

[soft raft]

tap on the title 5 times
I'm not joking

[cobalt rapids]

tap this 5 times

[barren tapir]

backline shitters survive at lvl30, vanguard shitters need anywhere from 30-50 depending on vg pressure

[mellow cape]

I got dissed on for saying that yesterday loll, spam tap the title

[summer cove]

but if they foking die they dont get the xp tho

[desert hound]

It worked, thanks

[barren tapir]

like i said, im frugal, and it works so i dont see the issue with it, i havent had time to build up any stockpile of books and i constantly rotate ships

[mellow cape]

[barren tapir]

they don't die that's the point

events are easy as shit you dont need lvl100 books to make them survive lol. even 12-1 doesnt need that, ive carried lvl70s before

[desert hound]

Why did you have to carry level 70s in the first place?

[barren tapir]

to level them

[tame jungle]

Leveling

[barren tapir]

why waste books when i can get the exp just fine while building affection. am i in bizzaro world here

[tame jungle]

No you’re not and i suspect that this person does not know about fleettech

[desert hound]

Thats crazy, but if it works it worksa

[barren tapir]

this worked on t5 for vg with only nana mlb i should add. conserving books til you have enough support for your new ships is wiser imo, better than running out and getting stuck waiting, if they survive that's all that's needed, and building affection sooner is hardly a bad thing

[tame jungle]

Pink…

[junior walrus]

to be fair i understand the puzzle, but i couldn't solve this one because the red arrow doesn't point to a square it points to an empty space.

[soft raft]

that's because you're supposed to go from the green arrow to the red arrow while covering every square

[junior walrus]

yes and the red arrow on that puzzle points to the wrong spot

look at all the other puzzles and then look at that one, the red arrow is poorly placed.

[storm heron]

agree to disagree

[tame jungle]

Had no trouble with solving it myself so

[cobalt rapids]

i just press help me miss lala 10 times a day

[elfin hollow]

this just goes to show that a % of the playerbase are mindless gooners (me)

[storm heron]

[keen owl]

Whats the green currency for?

[dusk maple]

click on it, it says it's for the circuit mini game

[keen owl]

Why do u get so many?

[tame jungle]

For the casuals

[sharp token]

worth the effort for this?

[sweet delta]

IDK why not get free stuff

[soft raft]

iirc those give the augments and various other collab aux gears
And if you plan on using any of the collab ships, apparently they need their unique aug to function at all

Plus these puzzles arent that hard (or you can spam click the title to get the game to do it for you)

[forest palm]

primary school child could do them

[storm heron]

sirius, ply

tashkent/voroshilov

[forest palm]

aurora

[storm heron]

mog

[pliant acorn]

Is shimanto really that needed in world 15?

[forest palm]

Sirius buff is unique, so yes it stacks with ARAs

[soft raft]

We rate her highly for W15 for a reason

[pliant acorn]

Like highly needed?

[soft raft]

Another aspect about Shimanto is her burn removal which is very nice if you have Musashi hard tanking the damage for your backline

[pliant acorn]

What other ships is highly needed in chapter 15?

[soft raft]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[mellow cape]

Mmm reading the guide would kearsarge fit into the boss fleet and count as a bb?

Assuming you have Yorktown 2

[hollow gust]

She is a okay option

[cobalt rapids]

kear in w15 kinda doesnt fill either the bb role or cv role, needs acv coverage

[warm flax]

How long should I be away for returnee rewards

[hollow gust]

unknown

[mellow cape]

Notedd

Just throwing together a comp for w15. I'll step outside my W12 bubble

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[atomic abyss]

she has 8, with a flex slot on slot 1 and 2

default is 3/2/3 tho yes

if you want a bit more detailed info

[mellow cape]

Mmm okay, I haven't really focused on submarines. Is there any way to lvl them up effectively without books?

[tame jungle]

by calling them in

and/or dorm 1st floor

[mellow cape]

That's going to be so slow x.x

[tame jungle]

tough luck

[mellow cape]

Tyty

[forest palm]

this is why I ignored subs

[mellow cape]

There goes my w15 dreams

[forest palm]

I mean you can clear 15 w/o subs

[mellow cape]

Okayy but how maxed out do you have to be with your fleet without subs? Or is it a minute difference

The guide makes it sound like you need subs lol

[cobalt rapids]

its a big difference with proper sub usage

[cobalt rapids]

huh where

[mellow cape]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[forest palm]

where in

[storm heron]

big difference indeed on the OoA battles

[cobalt rapids]

i meant where does it imply that in the guide

[mellow cape]

Submarines should be used on all boss battles (but optional for 15-4’s second boss), so reserve ammo for those. Spend the other ammo on out-of-ammo battles or the Special Aviation Fleet.

In the submarine section, there's nowhere in the guide that says it's optional

[cobalt rapids]

thats just how sub fleet should be used if available

[mellow cape]

Should be worded differently LOL but word. I'll do more research for fleets without subs

[cobalt rapids]

okay fair enough

i can see our confusion

[storm heron]

Just book your subs

[sweet delta]

I mean if you need a guide then you probably need subs

[mellow cape]

word, I just barely scraped by in w14 and grided W12 and OPSI for like a year now

Finally trying w15, I think I have the gear now

[forest palm]

the worst thing you can do is try to get 3* on lethal

[cobalt rapids]

raising a fleet of 3 subs doesnt take much and will help alot

[mellow cape]

Yeahhh I'll use books. Just pains me LOL I was saving those books for the next UR

[storm heron]

it takes like what, 2000 books?

[forest palm]

you'd still have to raise their affection, so it wouldn't really help you that much

[cobalt rapids]

i reccomend farming them till they hit 100 affinity at least

t5 in this event is a good stage to farm sub aff for example

[mellow cape]

Ohhh good advice lol. What sub fleet should I focus on btw

[storm heron]

if you want the +3% stats just set secretary and and farm affi later

[mellow cape]

I have 2 options, U47, U37, and U81 or

Flasher, Alba, and leonardo

[cobalt rapids]

the latter

i mean if same lb

[mellow cape]

Do sub fleets matter in which order?

And I'll do latter c:

[cobalt rapids]

their position matters, some positions are more advantageous than others, depends on fight
for campaign matters less but flag flasher/alba

[reef flume]

How do I unlock this? Can't find it in meta lab

(I have 1400/1400)

[cobalt rapids]

u get it from opsi doing all kinds of stuff same as blue coords for showdown ( those are for dossier )

[storm heron]

click the right boss

[soft raft]

click on the right side square in that menu first

[storm heron]

left one use the (200/200), right one use the (1400/1400)

[mellow cape]

Ty btw

[reef flume]

I clicked the right one, and when I go to click "unlock" nothing happens

[soft raft]

did you select a dossier fight to do first?

[reef flume]

Does it mean I must have fought them previously?

[cobalt rapids]

select a boss then tap this

[storm heron]

who is dat

so scary

[full trout]

If I can’t even beat t5 of the normal event, is it worth farming still?

[reef flume]

That's what happens

[soft raft]

try force closing and relaunching the game
could've been a desync

[soft raft]

if you're struggling, dont force yourself to clear it any more than you have to

[reef flume]

Ah wait nvm I think I understood why it doesn't work

"You cannot select a dossier while a Meta fight is active"

[storm heron]

no, click the picture

[cobalt rapids]

[soft raft]

yup
Also just realized that the place you were trying to tap was just a tab to show the avaliable fights lol

[storm heron]

click the picture, and then confirm

[cobalt rapids]

tap this and hit confirm

[storm heron]

boomer forgetting how to initiate a meta dossier

[reef flume]

Solved

Thx chat

[stark eagle]

can sobody help me am I doing this right because it's won't work

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[stark eagle]

Thank You it worked

[stark eagle]

Also thank you

[keen saffron]

does anybody has a tierlist of last 3-4 events? since the EN tier list seems liek it wont update anymore, sigh

[cobalt rapids]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0 for endgame

[upbeat cairn]

Guys, quick question, as a new player, which ship should I invest first? people seem to place Helena and unicorn in high regard, however I do not know which one to go for first, currently I’m pretty much using all the to love ru units

[storm heron]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

use yami as your 3rd backliner

[storm heron]

imo raising all to love ru units early is not a good idea since SSR bullins are limited

[cobalt rapids]

lala is alr mlb so keep

[storm heron]

momo and nana lb0

[mellow cape]

Welp I'm a dumbass and didn't see a archerfischer in my dock...

rip more books

[upbeat cairn]

I mostly got many dupes

I’ve used a couple bullins only

[forest palm]

Flash + Alb + Archer have fun

[storm heron]

welp in that case yes you are

[mellow cape]

Is there any specific reason why that trio is better than the U' series?

Frfr

[atomic abyss]

they just deal more dmg

[storm heron]

:suchidoubt:

[mellow cape]

Oh that's it? 💀

[hollow gust]

damage wise fishes are best, but doesnt mean ironblood is bad

[cobalt rapids]

also more oxy for better campaigning

[atomic abyss]

it's not a doubt, they do deal more damage
not by much admittedly

[hollow gust]

if ur ironblood is already done then just use it

[atomic abyss]

if you already have an invested u-bote fleet, use it

[storm heron]

oh wait they actually do more damage

[stark quiver]

~~I wonder if that sushi tl said otherwise ~~

[cobalt rapids]

they are alr mlb so i would raise em

[upbeat cairn]

Should I keep any of my current units? Or just go for all the beginner united recommended in the beginners guide?

[atomic abyss]

use lala in place of helena, yami for the 3rd backliner

everything else use the newbie fleet recommendation

[upbeat cairn]

Gotcha

Thank you guys

[storm heron]

booking to 125 is wild

[cobalt rapids]

it doesnt

[barren tapir]

triple tlr vanguard is quite strong but not good for a newbie because it's expensive (gold bulins and all 3 need their augments especially nana and momo)

can always return to it once you're further along if you like, such as around ch9

[storm heron]

wait for the tierlist can other people change the sorting methods?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[storm heron]

[keen saffron]

Glad someone made a tier guide even if only for end game. No idea what happened to the EN tier list, not updated since PR7, asked on the group but only got childlish responses, they should leave the project to actually interested people

[atomic abyss]

firstly, that "childish" behavious is likely why they even ran off into their own little server years ago

secondly, most of them already quit

[keen saffron]

Damn, so the official tier list is cooked?

[atomic abyss]

it's not fundamentally bad

just outdated
and also doesnt really specify what content its even tiered for

it's at best campaign w12/13

[forest palm]

it was never an official tier list to begin with it was community driven

[atomic abyss]

it's literally in the name

english community tierlist

[keen saffron]

there arent columns for things like events-hard mode-casual OPSi?

missing faction columns, otherwise very solid

[forest palm]

faction is irrelevant tbh

[stark quiver]

Too easy to make a tier list for
And w13h is basically a copy of w15 fleet

[cobalt rapids]

opsi is just harbi part, otherwise not rly since its endgame intended but anything at endgame will work prior but prior u might wanna consider investment cost
as for the faction part ill pass this feedback onto @sweet delta

[atomic abyss]

the point is that anything goes outside w13/14/w15, CM and harbiter

and even then for w13, it can be brute forced with the right gear

[keen saffron]

tbh I only have hard mode till w12, too lazy to advance

[zinc hornet]

who should i focus on getting rainbow gear for? and how long does it usually take to get enough gear lab mats to craft rainbow gear?

[hollow gust]

2 months give or take

[cobalt rapids]

ur first UR blanks should be spent till u have 2-3 wyverns

[soft raft]

Realistically you only really need like at most 3 copies of a specific UR gear

[zinc hornet]

and throw the wyverns on whatever cvs i happen to be using for any particular battle?

[keen saffron]

last question, what are good french and Sardegna/NP vanguards for Bayard and Napoli?

missing those

[cobalt rapids]

battles with multi enemies, particularly in campaign or mobbing

[hollow gust]

the usualy reccomendation is to use whatever ships that arent maxed

[soft raft]

Since you'll prob be farming W12 on safe threat lvl, doesn't really matter

[zinc hornet]

what gold gear should i be getting? I've got a couple of flapjacks but not really much else from gear lab because i don't really know what I'm doing

[barren tapir]

thoughts on best momo gun?

her barrage is really strong (1620/1080/840 bullet and 725/932/1242 torps) and her gunnery (174 fp, 135% x1) is fine but not exceptional, so i was wondering if single 150 might be ideal for her

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[keen saffron]

Can use my waifu Emile . But tbh I just want something for fast clears. I just wish you could disable ship drops from maps so I can faceroll without worrying about my part getting full

[zinc hornet]

thanks c:

[barren tapir]

if not single 150 then plygun is better?

[stark quiver]

What

[barren tapir]

plygun is exactly twice as slow, reducing barrage frequency from 10s to 20s

[stark quiver]

More damage better attack pattern

[storm heron]

that's not frequency, that's period

[barren tapir]

no im wondering if a barrage gun is worth it on momo bc her barrage is really strong as listed above

[stark quiver]

Ah

[storm heron]

there has to be a threshold on how much ratio between barrage and gun damage in order for the fast firing to be better than the high dps

[barren tapir]

and this is me asking greygoose lol

also plygun i doubt is worth wasting on momo, so the gap between barrage gun and some other cl gun would be smaller then that

[hollow gust]

im more in consideration that there is a balance then either 150 or plymouth

[zinc hornet]

is there any use for excess black friday points?

[barren tapir]

well ye i only brought up plygun bc i assume thats the best overall gun for most cls

[hollow gust]

nah excess is for all the lazy players, ur done

[zinc hornet]

aight ty. a bit disappointing but oh well

[barren tapir]

i just dunno how to gear up momo rn

[cobalt rapids]

that is split between 60 bullets

[storm heron]

single 150 is like no damage isn't it

[keen saffron]

seems like the event ships are good?

[hollow gust]

as always , good for newbies, vets only care about URs

[cobalt rapids]

up to par with event gold standards or slightly better

[barren tapir]

yeah it is, but for a mob fleet which is my intent for the tlr vanguard its gonna be a good barrage imo

[soft raft]

dont forget to get their unique augs tho if you plan on using them

[barren tapir]

ig idk how to determine when barrage or gunnery is better for cl

[storm heron]

is the unique augs cost 21k?

[barren tapir]

cost like 11k, theres no 10k base cost since you already got them

[spring bolt]

just go with rainbow 152

[storm heron]

yo aurora wanna find out which one is better for momo?

test it

[barren tapir]

and assuming i dont have a rainbow 152 what would be a good accessible cl gun (i would also think momo is low priority for a 152)

[storm heron]

[cobalt rapids]

155kai

[storm heron]

wait u dont have quad152

[barren tapir]

i do intend to once i get her augment finished, i wanted to probe veteran minds

[barren tapir]

isn't its rld kinda slow

[storm heron]

I used to do that a lot for non meta ships and then I realized most vets don't even care

[barren tapir]

nearly 30s per barrage

[cobalt rapids]

look at nepnep

[spring bolt]

if you don't have a rainbow 152, single 150 is fine, but keep in mind that similar to nep, this will greatly reduce her ability to deal with mobs on the sides and change her damage curve greatly

[storm heron]

gn gph

[barren tapir]

ahh good point

the plants probably help a bit with that but definitely a consideration

i need to see if plants will explode suicide boats for me

[fallow sedge]

How much money would it take to develop 30 a pry with coins only

[spring bolt]

yes they will, they can even help slowing/stopping trash mobs in ch 14

[mellow cape]

Does it make since to max out the PR ships first before DR so I can manipulate the amount of face researches pop up?

[cedar willow]

uhm where can i farm gear for ss?

[cobalt rapids]

sub raid

[hollow gust]

thats the usual strat yes

[mellow cape]

Oh that was the strat the entire time

Lmaooo I've been not following the strat for the past two years

[cedar willow]

only there?

[cobalt rapids]

well techincally its coredata shop for sub auxes
sub raid for prereqs for sub torps
and opsi for actually upgrading sub torps
and some subtorps drop on maps but not worth farming for

[prime glacier]

what does ani mean on a skin?

[cobalt rapids]

animated background

[prime glacier]

so the character is static?

[cobalt rapids]

could be animated if its dynamic

[prime glacier]

it does not say in game shop right?

[cobalt rapids]

uh u can preview em

[prime glacier]

ok thanks!

[spring bolt]

this means skin is animated

this means background is animated

[upbeat cairn]

Quick question, who is the ship at the bottom right in the beginners guide? Am I blind or is it just not mentioned?

[prime glacier]

is there a way to go from unit skins list to shop?

[summer cove]

is this pack worth it?

[stark quiver]

javelin,
not mentioned cuz its "use your startership" shes one of the 3

[upbeat cairn]

Thank you, I couldn’t quite figure out since I was using laffey

[pine inlet]

between the BTD-1 and the XSB3C dive bombers, why would I pick one over the other?

[cobalt rapids]

usually neither
the former just is a worse option than a readily available plane
and the later is not worth the cost for the gains from upgrading said plane
and that plane is the purple helldiver

[barren tapir]

i calculated around 10s including absolute cd but yea assuming her barrage is decently good compared to the paper values i think it's the way to go, particularly for budget gearing

[cobalt rapids]

on a 10s barrage every second barrage goes into water

[barren tapir]

nani

[cobalt rapids]

coz it aligns with ur mainfleet and torp launches usually

[barren tapir]

ah yea maybe, depends on the exact timings i guess

[cobalt rapids]

but yea it should be better than the guns up to ply

[summer cove]

is there a way to see ingame which faction is every ship?

[ivory pawn]

Spending recommendation is usually gems. Pack has no gems, so meh.

[cobalt rapids]

yes go to archive/dock or fleet tech lab and use the filters
or check their faction abbrev under their name

[summer cove]

thanks!

[fathom sable]

So i wanted to retire this ship and have no idea where she is. I have checked OpSi and whatnot

[barren tapir]

try checking campaign hard modes and exercise fleet. also war archive hard modes

[still nest]

It's ok to just grab prints, cogs and farm 12-4 instead?

The grind in this event is so slow

[barren tapir]

yes if all you care abt is efficiency that is the way to go. keep in mind event stages drop gearskins if you like those

[undone plover]

Depends what u also value
Cuz I value gold plates most which means I have to go all the way to 55k

[barren tapir]

oh yeah those too

[still nest]

55k??? It's understandable if this event have T6 or D4

But it only have T5

[undone plover]

For someone who farms b1 T5 is an improvement

[soft raft]

T5 Is the D3 for this event tho

[undone plover]

Value of 12-4 over event is a bit more xp and a lot more gold
But later on gold isnt as valuable anyway
So why not farm event for 10-15 plates
I lose “nothing” for doing it

[barren tapir]

i mean t5 is 180 point still

12-4 is less exp/oil iirc but it's much more time efficient

[warm flax]

New ships good?

[still nest]

You'll lose your sanity 💀

[soft raft]

Typical event SR good, elite meh
Would rather save for Dec UR if you have less than 400 cubes

[undone plover]

~~That is long gone ~~

[barren tapir]

one moment i will calculate oil efficiency for exp

[warm flax]

I just expect a good support from these non UR events lol

[eternal moth]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KUGpvLg9Q-BU8yGe-REeuZCydiK8Ffxh/edit?gid=1068071133#gid=1068071133

It's already in the pins

Or do you mean for event?

[undone plover]

The CN paper has it I think
Unless event T5 are different

[barren tapir]

t5 = 4131 exp (3 elite, 3 medium fleet, boss) for 160 oil

12-4 = 6193 exp (6 medium fleet, boss) for 317 oil

t5 = 25.82
12-4 = 19.54

exp value is single ship no mvp no flag no morale boost

ENG wiki doesnt have t5 values i used my fleet values divided by 1.2 for morale

so 638 elite, 507 rank 2 mob, 696 boss

[undone plover]

Fighting boss with mob fleet on T5 is also easier
I would assume most ppl use a maxed fleet for 12-4 boss

[still nest]

It's super laggy at T5

[barren tapir]

for completeness sake, 11-1 using my parameters is 5791 for 267 or 21.69

[desert hound]

Guys what type of british units should I use for farming drake exp

[cobalt rapids]

vanguard time

[barren tapir]

any with good fleet tech

[desert hound]

[spring bolt]

just a reminder that drake is a worse lala, make sure you are grinding for her due to collection/tech

[soft raft]

Drake aug when

[cobalt rapids]

so how is 1fp worse than 0fp

[barren tapir]

drake will beat lala when her inevitable augment comes out in several years (after pr1 and pr2 finish)

SURELY!!!

[tall bane]

is there any other way to get t3 cruiser retrofit blueprint apart from the hard mode and medal shop

[dreamy blade]

wasted exp maxed fleet pretty unnecessary at safe

[cobalt rapids]

Guaranteed in hm 3* missions, rng in guild shop

[tall bane]

damn

i have to wait then

[cobalt rapids]

And dont buy in medal, too expensive

[tall bane]

ok

[barren tapir]

guild shop rng

[tall bane]

such pain

[ivory pawn]

Events too, including current one.

[tall bane]

alr in a gatcha game now there is more rng

[barren tapir]

also some event milestones sometimes. and 3* event map (C3 D3 / T3 T6 if applicable) sometimes

(its t3 blueprint, but cruiser? depends)

[tall bane]

yeahhhh i need them for san Diego and helena

[pseudo hearth]

What are the best Wolfpack teams again?

[barren tapir]

can ignore helena for a long time honestly prioritize others over hers

[still nest]

I don't use my helena anymore

[elfin hollow]

as u should

[mint flint]

u96, u37, u81

[tall bane]

well yeah i still needed like 3 more t3 crusier thing for san diego but yeah i am also building shinano anad new jersey

also what are some other good anti sub ships if any

[storm heron]

eldridge

[pseudo hearth]

Shoot, I only have one of them. My only gold IB Subs are 101, 81, and 47. Guess I’ll stick with the US subs fleet.

[frank pulsar]

fishpack is better anyway

unless no flasher

[pseudo hearth]

I’ve got Flasher, don’t worry

[barren tapir]

are they mlb

[storm heron]

is flasher a fish?

[tall bane]

mlb?

[pseudo hearth]

As well as Archerfish and Albacore. Don’t worry, I’ve got the whole team.

[pseudo hearth]

Max Limit Break

[barren tapir]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flasher_scorpionfish maybe

theres another one too but this isnt gph topic

[tall bane]

oh no not yet on the last one, but i have only 2 of the 6* bulin

i am jsut missing coins

i can only max 1 for now

[elfin hollow]

anyone know good maps for combat exp

[mint flint]

12-1/4

[soft raft]

12-1/12-4

[barren tapir]

t5 for efficiency using oil
12-1/12-4 for time efficiency
c1 for resource efficiency (infinity) at cost of heavy time

[elfin hollow]

oh is t5 exp actually good?

[weary gust]

No, it's just good to farm for the event points.

[barren tapir]

t5 exp is very efficient oil wise but not efficient time wise

it is about 25-30% more exp/oil than 12-4

[elfin hollow]

then ill prolly farm 12-1

[weary gust]

You'll still want to do the event, so just farm the event.

Unless you're already at like 40k+ points and have the shop ship + all other good shop stuff.

[elfin hollow]

hmm i mean i already bought the important stuff

is it worth clearing shop

[barren tapir]

actually 32.13%

[elfin hollow]

im at 40% for hindenburg i need her nyow

[weary gust]

Assuming Aurora's numbers are correct, there's no reason to not farm the event unless you don't have time to run till you're out of oil.

[barren tapir]

if you're looking for time efficiency go for 12-4 with HELPs

[mint flint]

if you dont have enough bps to get her to dev 30 then shes going to be useless even after you get her

[barren tapir]

or 13-4 even if you can

[elfin hollow]

i dont care i just like her

[barren tapir]

my man

[elfin hollow]

mfs think i care about how good a ship is

😭

[storm heron]

meanwhile 6 oil T4 gives you 32% more gold, and 4 oil T3 gives you 44% more gold

[mint flint]

you're in the gph channel so its an automatic logical assumption

[barren tapir]

and the exp gap tho would be a lot bigger bc doing low oil event + 12-4 would give 0 exp from the oil used on event, do keep that in mind.

but yes, coin wise low oil + 12-4 is clear winner

[elfin hollow]

alr bet ill farm up 12-4 then

[mint flint]

12-1 is slightly more xp efficient

[storm heron]

I think the main selling point for T5 is the fact that you can put level 70 mlb semi decent ship there and still somehow one fleeting

[elfin hollow]

yea t5 is fairly quick

[barren tapir]

yeah t5 is pretty easy. it's also good for purple plates and gear skins as an aside

t4 low oil is better for gearskins tho, t3 is worse

[undone plover]

Main selling point for new player is relatively easy, no hull restrictions
No commander level locked oil cap map
bonus event points

[barren tapir]

im not sure if t4 drop purple plate

t5 is also very good commander exp/oil until one reaches lvl96+ or wherever the 20 gap happens

and still pretty ok until 116+

[elfin hollow]

so what do i farm

[barren tapir]

as a result it is very gud for newbies who need levels asap for unlocking things

[elfin hollow]

[storm heron]

t5 till 55k

[elfin hollow]

oki

[barren tapir]

since you want to unlock hindenburg asap do 12-1 or 12-4 if oil is not a limiting factor

if oil is a limiting factor, t5 is a great balance of oil and exp efficiency

[storm heron]

no reason to unlock hinden asap though tbh

[barren tapir]

if you have unlimited time and no oils left, there is always c1

[soft dagger]

so im assuming nobody is lowcosting t5 here?

[barren tapir]

i can think of a non-gph reason which many players probably do care about: secretary

[elfin hollow]

frick u meat slave

[storm heron]

what

[sharp socket]

lowcost T5 is just 1:1 fleeting cause lowcosting is too hard to do there

[barren tapir]

frick u meat slave

[elfin hollow]

😭

[storm heron]

I will tell mods

[barren tapir]

lowcost t5 is literally 4 oil saved per battle wtf why bother

[storm heron]

[barren tapir]

ig u can try uni + 0lb cassin

[elfin hollow]

better think twice before dissing hindenburg

[barren tapir]

low oil t5 just sounds rather dumb to me tho

[elfin hollow]

[hardy citrus]

is hakuryuu usable without fate sim

[soft dagger]

if that fleet is 8 oil is that 4 oil saved?

[barren tapir]

if u can do it with actual decent savings, then sure care to share the homework?

[undone plover]

Yes

[storm heron]

if you have the data, you can contribute to #1310510871285600326

[barren tapir]

i was considering mlb ranger cassin but if it can be done for half that it can be worth it

[elfin hollow]

made it 50% progress on hinden

[barren tapir]

AND YOU CALL MY C1 NUTTERY CURSED

[storm heron]

please do so @soft dagger , we just wanna know what kind of (and to what extent) advantage do you gain by low oiling t5

[sharp socket]

that thread was made because i didnt wanna gather data for lowcosting nor am i able to do it well so i got other people to do it for me and it worked

[barren tapir]

im gonna argue low oil t5 is the most cursed variant without even seeing it

[sharp socket]

if you guys wanna contribute more thats good too, gph needs more charts

[storm heron]

jokes on you, I am also curious and I enjoy testing and calculating

[barren tapir]

oh yeah getting other ppl to do the homework for you is very smart i just think that whole discussion is rather cursed in a "but why bother?" state of mind

[elfin hollow]

rare moment when elitists get together and contribute to society

[barren tapir]

i contributed the t5 exp/oil my job here is done

[elfin hollow]

ty bro

[storm heron]

low oiling imo is not under or overrated, it is fairly rated considering the time you need and the difficult overhead of the resource you need for a bit of advantage in sortie coin production

[viscid swift]

who said this was ever for coins

[barren tapir]

tbh id consider it the most optimal if you have time and ability to do it, regardless of the exact specifics of its advantages

cos it also means you get the most commissions

that's the real metagame here

[sharp socket]

lowcost is neither underrated or overrated, its known as a (crazy) method for people with way too much time to play the game

[elfin hollow]

does running 2 fleets cost more oil or nah

[storm heron]

I would like to know other metrics do you have

[barren tapir]

lowcost is overrated however, because nocost exists (at least for exp + comms lol)

[weary gust]

Yeah but 10 gem comms is the same as 0 gem comms. You get 0 gems either way.

[viscid swift]

2 words, Cognitive Chips

event maps drop none, W12 drops some at least and XP is useless without cogs to uncap your ships

[storm heron]

I mean sure by halting exp production in the first place too

[barren tapir]

ye true. they all have their pros and cons

[soft raft]

only a smidge overall
since the 2nd fleet is only gonna fight the boss

[elfin hollow]

i see

[barren tapir]

nothing over/under rated, it is just a sanity check tbh

[storm heron]

good thing I never bring exp to the argument because I know even though T5 will be superior, cogs will bottleneck ship exp

[barren tapir]

im still not gonna do it bc i actually have ships to level but i applaud the efforts

[elfin hollow]

easier said than done i suppose

[sharp socket]

i still think its dumb to minmax to such a degree especially after completing all the hard content but im casual player

[barren tapir]

only gonna worry about cog bottlenecking when i run out, until then im technically in need of exp over cog

plus, there is still getting every ship to lvl100

[brittle smelt]

what's the best general use CL aux gun for BBs? the community tier list seems to list Nep gun as the best, but in the gear guide it's like, way down the list

[viscid swift]

it's because you've cleared all content that you start min maxing to such a degree, nothing else to do

[storm heron]

nep gun?

[viscid swift]

Plymouth gun, no joke

[elfin hollow]

gear is situational most of the time

[storm heron]

wait why is nep gun best for BBs in the ectl

[brittle smelt]

what if I'm too broke for Plymouth gun? I only have one atm and it's on Plymouth lol

[viscid swift]

something something inconsistency

[storm heron]

do they not update? or am I missing something about nep gun

[viscid swift]

T3 Triple 155 then

[barren tapir]

i have some gem comm data

29 received
10 gave gems
19 did not
34.48% current success rate
246 gems received
24.6 gems per success avg
8.48 gems per comm avg

sadly i have not tracked the amount of each type (2h 4h 8h) i have received and their individual success/fail rates nor the exact range of gems one can receive. i do have screenshots of every success in #trophy-room as data evidence for that, however

[brittle smelt]

just the regular one is fine right? not the Kai?

[storm heron]

so 8 gems if they show up

[viscid swift]

now factor in how many non gem commissions you got

[sharp socket]

for w14, triple 155 kai
for w15, triple 155, or twin 137
for anything else, anything
plygun (quad 152) best in everything

[viscid swift]

yes

[brittle smelt]

sick, thanks guys

[storm heron]

or just go twin 137 all the way

[barren tapir]

not particularly important. i've played for about 2 months, so we can just say i have roughly received a gem comm every 2ish days on average dont need to know the exact specifics beyond that, or at least i'm not particularly interested in it

[viscid swift]

it's not important so much as it illustrates just why farming for gems is such a farce

[pseudo hearth]

I forget, of the two, which is the better BBV these days Hyuuga or Ise?

[sharp socket]

use neither

[storm heron]

Kearsoup

[sharp socket]

if you want bbv for whatever reason go kear

[barren tapir]

i mean i would hope it's obviously a farce for any sane individual when the current output appears to be 1265 gems a year - and that's with me pretty obviously having above average/good luck while also specifically grinding a lot with them as a side bonus i enjoy

[pseudo hearth]

Congratulations on not answering my question LOL

[storm heron]

1265 gems per year

[barren tapir]

i expect the true average to settle down over time to the 600-800 range tbh

[storm heron]

hyuuga shd be a bit better