gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

you must have retired her

buy her from the guild shop

[summer cove]

oh nvm shes on a quest

Damn fuck i had spent alot of skill tomes on Tallinn 😭

[atomic abyss]

you can use her for fleet 2 eventually

[summer cove]

i guess..

[dawn ledge]

is it long to refarm 2400 gems in total

i want to buy 2 l2d skins

[atomic abyss]

lol farm

[summer cove]

should i lb portland too?

[atomic abyss]

yes ofc

[atomic abyss]

you aint refarming that much

[junior walrus]

From my understanding you’d be waiting on commission RNG. So probably a few months minimum

[atomic abyss]

you only get about 4000+ gems for free in game

[viscid swift]

you're looking at a few years not months

[dawn ledge]

in the campaign ?

[atomic abyss]

and gem commissions give like at most 20 at a time
assuming you even get them to give you a reward

[summer cove]

btw where can i see this portland quest?

[atomic abyss]

3750 for 3*-ing all campaign maps

dream on, you're not getting both l2ds WITHOUT whaling

[dawn ledge]

i'm gonna farm 🗣️

[atomic abyss]

you wont be able to get more than enough for 1

[hollow gust]

Campaign and Collection

[atomic abyss]

you're new, so good luck going anywhere past w12

[dawn ledge]

i'm at 5 rn

[summer cove]

[atomic abyss]

yeah genuinely dream on

[viscid swift]

yeah forget about it

[dawn ledge]

[atomic abyss]

2nd or 3rd stage of newbie missions, you're probably still at the first

[fluid umbra]

This, it'll take years on end from commision rng.
I forked $5 for 1 l2d but yeah never getting that in f2p.

[atomic abyss]

for this game

you're not getting more than 1 l2d without whaling in the short term

just use real money or dont buy skins at all

[summer cove]

what is a l2d 0.o

[atomic abyss]

because buying skins with f2p gems means you sacrifice precious QoL and game progression

[fluid umbra]

Live 2D skin. Moving pictures that can be interacted with

[summer cove]

oh those animated skins

[fluid umbra]

Animated is just moving. L2D can be interacted with

[summer cove]

shipgirls are cute as they are imo, there are nice skins yeah but eh

[fluid umbra]

It's not worth sacrificing your progression for a skin. You're losing a lot from 1200 gems

[summer cove]

oh

[viscid swift]

clearly have not seen some of the skins this game has to offer

[hollow gust]

[junior walrus]

What am I missing here

[hollow gust]

ur supposed to end at the red arrow...

[viscid swift]

the arrows are where you start and where you end

[junior walrus]

I click on the space with the red arrow and restarts

[tame jungle]

because you go from GREEN to RED

[viscid swift]

the boxes closest to the arrow where you start and where you end

[hollow gust]

ur LINE is supposed to go from GREEN to RED

[viscid swift]

not the box the arrow points to

[remote quarry]

Question. Am I over-hoarding oil? I have about 200k saved. Has there ever been any event that was so good to farm that so much oil was needed?

[junior walrus]

Not sure what I’m doing wrong fr

[viscid swift]

Yorktown 2 for HVARs, that's been the only one though

[hollow gust]

Jfc, lemme grab my phone

[viscid swift]

for the love of

[viscid swift]

why

[remote quarry]

So just keep hoarding then for rerun? I missed all events in the last 2.5 years while I got my Masters, sadly

[viscid swift]

pretty much, though I always reccomend keeping oil in storage for rainy days rather than instantly spending it when you can

[junior walrus]

Thank you I’m just saying the last 2 the red arrow was ON THE BOX it was supposed to end in.

[hollow gust]

[viscid swift]

this player base man

[atomic abyss]

you guys havent seen al-general

[elfin hollow]

on par with genshin impact fanbase

[viscid swift]

oh I have on rare occasions

[abstract solar]

Are any of the to love ru ships good? And how good we're talking

[hollow gust]

Room temperature IQ is so real, yostar never shoudve made a skill based game

[viscid swift]

golds look to be pretty decent, nothing terribly impressive though

[summer basin]

[atomic abyss]

some people are cooking lala as fs5 drake tier or higher

and while im not fully convinced, she does seem to come fairly close at least

[remote quarry]

They are all fairly solid. Nothing thats a new meta, but competitive with other SSRs. I would say wait for the tier list to rate them, but lol. LMAO even

[abstract solar]

I do like all of them but do you think they're worth the investment?

[viscid swift]

investment in terms of what

[atomic abyss]

lala and yami are worth investing if you lack better stuff ig

yami is definitely a penny replacement for new players

[abstract solar]

Leveling them to 120 and max skill level and the + 10 gear augment

[tardy shadow]

hello, can anyone help me with fleet building? apparently im stuck at 10-1 and dont know what to do

[remote quarry]

If ypu use all 3 event SSRS in the vanguard with their augments, the staggered beam attacks output some good damage

[abstract solar]

The tierlist is soo slow

[atomic abyss]

i would consider them dead at this point

[viscid swift]

it depends on if you have better, I do, lots in fact and the only reason I'm bothering to level Yami, Haruna, and Yui at all is because I have no main fleets left to level

[remote quarry]

Most of the people working on it have quit AL, is why

[abstract solar]

Makes sense

[hollow gust]

people have lives, ricest has been too busy playing mc to work on it

[viscid swift]

still, 4 months with no update isn't exactly a good sign for their longevity

[remote quarry]

I just use the CN one these days, and translate it with Google lens.

[gilded carbon]

Is there a list of the Siren facilities in Operation Siren? I wondered if i did all of them yet as no new one seemed to have popped up. They had, at times, actually entertaining little puzzles

[hollow gust]

its pictures, what u translating

[abstract solar]

There's a cn one?

[ember beacon]

Does the game have a pity system? Like a selector after a certain number of pulls like in Blue Archive?

[remote quarry]

The text...

[viscid swift]

those were for yoru first clear of Opsi only

[atomic abyss]

only for URs

[remote quarry]

Yes, on bilibili

[viscid swift]

only for URs, 400 cubes gets you a copy of the UR

[hollow gust]

they disspear after u finish story

[gilded carbon]

oh. i see, thank you. Shame :(

[abstract solar]

Can you share link

[gilded carbon]

i liked the mechanic

[ember beacon]

So nothing for the To love ru collab?😭

[viscid swift]

nope

[tame jungle]

nope not for this event, that's limited to UR events

[hollow gust]

unless ur luck sucks absolute balls u should be fine

[abstract solar]

You might have times where you do 150 pulls or more and won't get the ssr ship. Happens to me often

[ember beacon]

Well do they rerun previous collab charas?

[tardy shadow]

Need help with fleet building

[hollow gust]

rarely

[boreal wagon]

collabs can but are not guaranteed to rerun

[remote quarry]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/首页

[viscid swift]

it's unlikely, treat this as your only time to get these characters

[abstract solar]

Arigato

[hollow gust]

isnt that nga ?

[ember beacon]

Fk Lala, I don't even like her in the anime yet she keeps showing up

[remote quarry]

Do itashimashite

[dawn ledge]

what's that

[atomic abyss]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[storm heron]

that's not a very civilized thing to say

[final kayak]

Is there a general fleet comp guideline? Example of what I'm using.

[storm heron]

yea, at /guide

you can read /guide at #bot-spam but here your fleet is bad because

• UR bulins are hard to come by
• Yorktown is bad compared to other better options, like saratoga or enterprise or independence
• You have no healer like unicorn

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[storm heron]

fun fact, shinano at 6 stars has 9 planes, while your shinano at 3 stars only has 3 planes. Independence or saratoga at 6 stars has more planes than your 3-plane shinano

[final kayak]

Unicorn is on my mob fleet this was supposed to be a boss fleet. I'll have to look up how to get enty

[soft raft]

then you are not anywhere close to considering a 2nd fleet right now going off of those levels and lack of limit breaks

right now focusing your resources on 6 ships is more benefical than spreading them thin among 12 ships

You can consider a 2nd fleet when you get to at least W9

Technically a properly built fleet can go up to W12 solo, but as someone who did that and hit a wall trying to progress further, I wouldnt reccomend it

[final kayak]

What happens when I run out of supplies/ammo doing missions? I run a second fleet to avoid that

[soft raft]

you can still fight at 0 ammo
There's just a debuff that isnt really notable outside of W14/15 if you have properly built fleets

[final kayak]

Ah

[storm heron]

I mean yeah they can solo iff they got a UR BB

[soft raft]

I did that with Hood months before UvH lol

[final kayak]

I see I'll consolidate my fleet and work on one fleet for now I appreciate the tips~ i will take liberties and keep Shinano and suffer because she's gorgeous

[cobalt rapids]

just set her as secretary

[pseudo hearth]

Who should I work towards MLBing: Unzen (LB1), Kronstadt (LB1), Vanguard (LB0), or Amagi CV (LB0)?

Or Mogador

[atomic abyss]

how many UR bulins do you have

[final kayak]

None

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur dock

[storm heron]

yes, the debuff is -50% damage, but if your fleet is strong that -50% damage will not be too detrimental, the only effect is that it takes like twice as long to kill

[atomic abyss]

then come back and ask when you have 4

[atomic abyss]

well, how many bulins

[cobalt rapids]

do vanny if u have 4 UR bulins

[pseudo hearth]

1 right now, but I’ll get more soon

[final kayak]

That's good to know! Thanks~

[pseudo hearth]

I only have the 1 bulin, but I’ll get more soon I think.

[cobalt rapids]

just dont invest till u got 4

[summer cove]

i'm sorry if this is a dumb question i couldnt find info about it, where do i get medals of honors/cores from?

[cobalt rapids]

december UR might change prios again and no point half investing if u cant mlb a ship

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource

[frank pulsar]

medals are from retiring ships of rare or rarer, core as in core data or protocore?

[pseudo hearth]

Do feel kind of bad that some of these ships have practically been sitting here doing nothing since I got them

[summer cove]

oh yeah i meant core data but i just saw, does enhancing using a rare ship count?

[frank pulsar]

core data is from hard mode and protocore is from converting combat data pack and blueprints of dev30 research ships

[stark quiver]

will 20.8s launch time work for warspite cm

[frank pulsar]

just enhance with common ship
enhancing with rares dont give any medals

[stark quiver]

gotta be 20s flat?

[sweet delta]

Read guide

[storm heron]

wait what warspite cm?

[cobalt rapids]

https://suchiguma.github.io/ChallengeMode/December

[sweet delta]

Carriers can't do the interrupt

[storm heron]

ah it's nov 24

[frank pulsar]

wasnt warkai the one you can interrupt with torp

[storm heron]

so changed zodiac?

[cobalt rapids]

i interrupt warkai with 50% fast load cv

or mby it was 20s musashi

[stark quiver]

i need to somehow geet more rld
time to whip out the cv rld cats

[sweet delta]

Bad purple name means that most carriers can't do the interrupt

[stark quiver]

bad cat?

[sweet delta]

How we supposed to know

[cobalt rapids]

definetly not

[storm heron]

I would keep and possibly reroll for flame

[stark quiver]

its my ultimate cv rld cat

[cobalt rapids]

i would take the 20s rld cat

[storm heron]

but insane cat though

[stark quiver]

i rolled ace, rookie mech and staff was original roll

[cobalt rapids]

just wait for lv30 and pray u get flame

[storm heron]

[cobalt rapids]

u got a 3 pts starter elite cat?

[sweet delta]

then accept whatever you get from level 30 and don't reroll

[storm heron]

well at least I have bisha

[stark quiver]

bad wording
original roll was mech and staff

[cobalt rapids]

oh

[stark quiver]

i got lucky with ace

[sweet delta]

Me too

[stark quiver]

except urs is perfect

[half river]

i come bearing question

pls forgive the cope but they tend to do wishing well before the end of the year right? and if so, joffre would make the cutoff this time? ty for ur time

[storm heron]

umm the next wishijg well will most likely be in Feb during CnY welp nvm I was wrong

[cobalt rapids]

last year we only had wishing well during CN anni ( may ) and our anni (august)

[storm heron]

wait CN anni?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[sweet delta]

Yes wait for cn anni

[half river]

my memory fails me then i coulda swore it was around december. ty regardless, feb’s not too far off

[storm heron]

I thought it's CNY lol okok it's in May then

[sweet delta]

Feb not

[storm heron]

sorry for giving false hope

[summer cove]

does pvp consume morale?

[cobalt rapids]

consumes the user but not the shipgirls

[mellow cape]

Is there a cat guide

[undone plover]

/cats

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE

What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.

How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!

How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.

What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).

What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.

Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.

[stark quiver]

will the first cv salvo always be delayed bc of boss spawn?

[undone plover]

By ~1.5s yes

[stark quiver]

thx, cuz i was working with the lars calc and i thought i did smth wrong

[undone plover]

Lars calc adds the 1.5s
Check sync view

[inland shoal]

Because of boss spawn?

[boreal wagon]

the 1.5s have nothing to do with the boss tho, that just comes from how the game loads

[forest palm]

lag

[boreal wagon]

the boss spawn cut in shouldnt really affect timings because it simply just freezes the game entirely

[stark quiver]

doesnt boss spawn stop rld times for a bit
istg i saw the timer ticking

[inland shoal]

The only way boss spawn should influence timings is if you have BBs

[mellow cape]

Reading the wiki, how do you know if you have a 10 point cat?

[sweet delta]

When the cat has 10 talent points distributed in good talents

[mellow cape]

Can I see an example of one?

[stark quiver]

suchi its your time

[mellow cape]

[rose whale]

do we have any UR left for this year?

[stark quiver]

at least one in late december

[rose whale]

I see, thanks

[sweet delta]

Im not aware that the devs confirmed the number of URs or UR events for 2024

[summer cove]

is it worth it to aim for 3 stars in war archives?

[stark quiver]

following the trends from past years*

[tame jungle]

Prepare for UR in late december and you’ll always be safe 👍

[opaque gate]

is howe better than sim5 izumo for boss fleet?

[sweet delta]

Depends on the fleet

[atomic abyss]

in other words, are you activating howe's skill

[summer cove]

do war archives use morale?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[opaque gate]

i see, thank u

[atomic abyss]

as long as it uses oil it uses morale really

[sweet delta]

And izumo has to takes the flag spot

[stark quiver]

for a ships xfleet to be good, do i need mlb or just lvl 10 skill

[atomic abyss]

lvl 10 skill since damage scales with the other flagship iirc

[sweet delta]

To be the best, you need level 125, oath, and full rainbow stat weapons and max aux stats

[stray cobalt]

does Noshiro's torpedo damage reduction skill stack with torpedo bulges?

[sweet delta]

It should be multiplicatively stacking

Not so relevant anywhere

[sweet delta]

Damage scales by the provider's stats and the flagship in battle's damage buffs

[atomic abyss]

[forest palm]

[stark quiver]

[junior walrus]

Did a pull for missions. She any good as far as the collab goes? This is my current formation

[barren tapir]

basically a more torp focused poikai so

she is good but use for 2nd fleet instead

[junior walrus]

Who is poikai

[barren tapir]

she also really needs her augment so invest later on

[barren tapir]

yuudachi retrofit

[junior walrus]

Word noted from what I’ve gathered I won’t br changing my formation for a while unless I get a crazy pull or really good UR

[eternal moth]

Yep, that looks good to me. That'll easily carry you. What chapter are you on now?

[tame jungle]

You’re not activating howe’s selfbuff

[junior walrus]

6-1 but I’ve only been going event stages for 3 days

[junior walrus]

This is the team I was told to build when I shared my roster. Only been playing a week

[barren tapir]

its good enough at least until you get like nelson retrofit idk

[tame jungle]

Tbf when you get a decent HMS frontliner you can probably just replace helena with that eventually

[eternal moth]

That buff isn't worth changing the fleet for at the moment

[tame jungle]

It’ll be fine

[wind hazel]

nubian good replacement

[eternal moth]

"Playing for 3 weeks"

[tame jungle]

That was a joke btw

[wind hazel]

javelin can work

[eternal moth]

Yeah, but Laffey is leveled

[wind hazel]

or sirius if you have her from medal

[sweet delta]

I think changing laffey to javelin would make the fleet worse

[tame jungle]

It’ll be fine until you start needing a 2nd fleet anyway

[junior walrus]

Unlocked Nelson this morning but I imagine she’s low on retro prio

[hollow gust]

she is 2nd highest after uni

[junior walrus]

What about Helena and laffey

[hollow gust]

helena doesnt need it, laffey is lower prio

[viscid swift]

they albion MLB already

Enterprise is probably just in there for leveling right now

[barren tapir]

third after portland i'd argue

[junior walrus]

Yeah from my understanding it was unicorn Portland Helena

[sweet delta]

Not Helena

[barren tapir]

portland is cheaper and you want a good tank. port is only a good tank after retro imo

there's also the rookie missions

[sweet delta]

Laffey or Independence or Saratoga or Nelson can be the third or fourth

[soft dagger]

yo. how to test sub damage with floods?

[sweet delta]

Raid

[eternal moth]

Helena is actually one of the lowest priority to retrofit of the endgame ships

[barren tapir]

portland retro is pretty important imo for a newbie due to missions, but also it gives her like 900 hp and 20 eva and really brings her to actual tanky level

[sweet delta]

Raid damage score - surfacefleetdamage - subfleetdamage = flood+burn

Alternatively, record and rewatch a battle 10 times to find every flood tick

[barren tapir]

and helena retro is very very low prio it gives her slightly more durability which isnt really important until you're doing like, arbiter and meta fights. base helena survives fine in campaign up to w12

[cobalt rapids]

helena retro mainly for her SG shift

[barren tapir]

which isnt important for newer players but yeah

[summer cove]

is it worth to try and get 3 stars hard mode chapters?

[cobalt rapids]

yes u get guaranteed retro bps

[barren tapir]

very worth

[cobalt rapids]

which is just clear X mobs and fight the boss with clearing mode on once

[barren tapir]

ch1-2 give 2x purple, 3+ give 2x gold bp

and after...idk which, they also give some cog chip and later, arrays too

[indigo cargo]

anyone i should prio?

[junior walrus]

So priority currently unless I get some other crazy, good units would be unicorn, Portland, and then Nelson. Who would Nelson replace in my lineup?

[summer cove]

i see, thanks

[barren tapir]

actually i might be trolling i dont remember if they ever give arrays

[hollow gust]

finish shinano and then do musashi

[cobalt rapids]

how many bulins do u have?

[summer cove]

i dunno what are arrays anyways

[indigo cargo]

3

[cobalt rapids]

musashi

[barren tapir]

er...howe i guess? idk who is better

youll need a bb for 2nd fleet eventually though anyway so she can go there too

[stark quiver]

Like cognitive chips but they only bring a ship from lvl 120 to 125

[junior walrus]

For now just focus current fleet tho? Don’t worry about leveling a second fleet?

[viscid swift]

right now you have the perfect map to do it one so why let the oppurtunity go to waste

and to be blunt, that's what I presumed you were doing with Enterprise because replacing Albion with the plans to continue one fleeting for the forseeable future would have been a waste

[junior walrus]

You talking about the event stages?

[viscid swift]

yes, T5 specifically

[junior walrus]

I can’t do T5 after 3 fights my team is barely hanging

[viscid swift]

have you got it down to safe

[junior walrus]

Wdym? I’m assuming not

[hollow gust]

it makes the stage alot easier

[viscid swift]

this

get it down to safe and try again

[junior walrus]

Get it down to safe by just playing through it?

[viscid swift]

yes, 8 times to get it down from lethal to safe

[junior walrus]

I have to beat it 8 times or just try it

[sweet delta]

Defeat the boss

[junior walrus]

Can’t do that kings

Three fights in I have a dead unit and most under half health

[sweet delta]

Don't fight the enemy chibis

[viscid swift]

well you could start by using your MLB Albion over your 2 LB Enterprise

[sweet delta]

Just pick the normal ship-looking enemy fleets

Actually if you can't even beat 3 elites then you probably can't beat the boss

[junior walrus]

They follow me and take my sweet cheeks I don’t want to fight them

[viscid swift]

get better at dodging them, and use a 2nd fleet with anything to tie one of them down

[junior walrus]

I’ll try later I’m driving atm

[sweet delta]

Time to summon a new player like dfg for help

[undone plover]

Time for justice gaming

[junior walrus]

If I have to do all that, Just to may be fight the boss then I feel like the likelihood of me beating the boss, or being able to auto sortie it is extremely low

[barren tapir]

tbh the cv nodes are harder than the elites imo

[stark quiver]

yo please don’t text when driving

[sweet delta]

Just keep farming whatever you were farming, and get more retrofit/limit break/level/gear

[viscid swift]

your gear was frankly rather shit when I last saw it

[barren tapir]

also it is probably worth manualling it to safe if itll let you grind it

[junior walrus]

My brand new 2025 Audi Q5 has self driving

[barren tapir]

or get uni retro complete if you havent and itll work

[junior walrus]

Also, using text to speech

[junior walrus]

I’m not sure I have a retro fit by the end of the event. It’ll probably be shortly after the event, ends to be honest.

[remote quarry]

Unicorn retro can carry even the worst fleets through T5

[viscid swift]

Unicorn wouldn't be the issue, it's the fact that Enterprise isn't MLB and shit gear

[sweet delta]

Did you get all early chapter X-4 three starred

[viscid swift]

because dfg was one fleeting T5 just fine with an overall comparable fleet

[junior walrus]

Well, to be fair, all of my gear is shit because I just started. I’m farming the X for stages every day, but I can only do it three times. I am buying the prototype three for the weapon that I was told to get but I feel like I’m mostly just struggling because I am a new player

[sweet delta]

$5 for dozens of decent gear

[viscid swift]

what about the tech boxes

not wrong, level 70 pack truly the best value

[junior walrus]

I compose all my tech boxes to T3, but I haven’t had time this weekend due to traveling to sort through and see what’s good and worth upgrading

[viscid swift]

yeah doing that would help

or as sushi says spend 5 bucks for the level 70 commander pack

[junior walrus]

I broke free to play for the cruise bass so if the 70 pack is really that good of a value for five dollars I’ll probably do it

[remote quarry]

It may not hurt to pick up some tech boxes with event currency at your current level. Especially the Eagle Union ones.

[viscid swift]

commander level 70 instantly, 4 gold bullins, and more than 200 pieces of gear already at +6

[summer cove]

what is heclp?

[viscid swift]

quite a lot of it is bad but even with that there's still a lot of good gear in there to equip 2 fleets

[ivory pawn]

High-Efficiency Combat Logistics Plan. The thing that doubles oil costs.

[summer cove]

i did buy it and it did me good, didnt have to level up anything and the free bulins were nice

[junior walrus]

But also, I’m only at level 47 right now so I don’t think I’ll hit 70 before the event is over

[summer cove]

doubles oil costs? what is it for?

[sweet delta]

Double rewards

[ivory pawn]

Half time spent farming.

[remote quarry]

Seriously consider buying the commander level 70 boost. Best value in the game, you can MLB your Enty, and easily farm the event

[ivory pawn]

Pack itself brings you straight to 70, that's why it's called that.

[junior walrus]

Send a screenshot of what the pack looks like so don’t buy the wrong thing please

[remote quarry]

Give me one sec

[viscid swift]

oh yeah a bunch of T2 xp packs as well

[remote quarry]

Thats the one

[sweet delta]

This plus new server event no wonder cn says 7 days to 12

[viscid swift]

yeah, I remember the rush on little E when it first came out, truly disgusting stuff

[barren tapir]

speedrunning

[junior walrus]

Only $5 that’s crazy

[stark quiver]

What rush

[viscid swift]

the rush to clear the main campaign, people were reaching W12 in 7 days

[amber frost]

Ok so I got this a few hours ago, I have a small chance of defeating Meta Nagato, what is the best way and certain weapons that will destroy her ?

[stone sluice]

Sell that car and become an AL whale

[sweet delta]

Request support is not a certain way but it has a pretty good chance

[remote quarry]

AP weapons, converging torps. The usual against a BB boss

[sweet delta]

I think you should worry about clearing actual opsi rather than the meta boss

Gear lab gear and +13 gear helps a lot

[amber frost]

what opsi ? the time limit for this is less 24 hours

[remote quarry]

It resets daily, and lasts for months

[pseudo hearth]

Are any of the new event Auxiliaries notable?

[amber frost]

welp my gear is nowhere near level 10

[ivory pawn]

Speaking of Opsi, how difficult are the File Zones compared to, say, Strongholds?

[amber frost]

oh well thanks anyway

[ivory pawn]

If this is your first time fighting her btw, the first several fights will be a joke.

[remote quarry]

File zones are stupid easy

[cobalt rapids]

theres a cosmic kicks upgrade and 2 ok 2nd hp auxes and 1 good dd fp aux

[sweet delta]

Is there a gold burn

[cobalt rapids]

theres no goldburn

[ivory pawn]

Good. Those UR plans are all that's left for the Wyvern.

[sweet delta]

[pseudo hearth]

Can I get a little more description on that?

[junior walrus]

I bought the pack. I’ll send some screenshots of my account later before using gear and Bulin to make sure it’s not wasted. Thank you.

I kinda clicked through it while I was putting premium gas in my brand new 2025 Audi Q5 with self driving. Was there any blueprints in the pack?

[viscid swift]

these 5 basically

[cobalt rapids]

sneaky stealthy powder has the same stats as comic kicks but a better passive
bubbly boily chef is worse toolkit at +10 but decent for 2nd hp aux
more-y glory aura booster is just a 550 hp aux with no actual effect
all work, all play robot is a bubble bullet with a ramping 3% extra dmg ontop

[remote quarry]

This guy really loves his 2025 Audi Q5 with self driving...

[junior walrus]

The joke is it’s a rental I’m driving because my girlfriends car got totaled.

[amber frost]

🤨 well I cant get the normal version of nagato, but yet from what I understand this meta version is too much. thanks anyway for the information.

[zinc flower]

Guys is there a guide for projects?

[sweet delta]

Yeah just focus on operation siren for now and try to get the next meta after nagato

[cobalt rapids]

start ur fights and press support
focus instead on progressing ur account so u dont have to rely ( or rely less ) on supports for the next meta

[soft dagger]

i doubt +13 bubbly will be better than +11 toolkit

[undone plover]

U mean research?

[sweet delta]

maybe "worse toolkit at +10" means "maybe close to toolkit at +13"

[zinc flower]

Yeah

[sweet delta]

but idk, i didn't even look at the gear datamine yet

[cobalt rapids]

i doubt aswell but i didnt math it out so it i just posted what i was sure of

[undone plover]

Are u a new player? What seasons have you done so far (dev 30 all ships)
Cuz the advice would change depending on your acc state

[zinc flower]

Been playing for a while but can be considered new since i haven't done anything to progress. The only pr units i have are monarch, FdG, st louis and agïr. Pretty sure that's all

Also the only one who isn't dev 30 is agïr cuz i got her yesterday

[undone plover]

This is the general research guide
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

1- set focus on pr5 in academy
2- put catchup on harbin/plymouth/brest if u still have it
3- take D research as a priority
Focus ply/brest prints
Mix in some Q and G4h/G1.5h research if no faces show
And avoid taking 5h and 8h gold faces if u can help it (gold meaning harbin/rupprecht/chkalov)

I assume u have done agir catchup
If not u can do that before other catchups

In the meantime u can research anchorage and AvP if u need a good tank and dont have implacable
U can coin those 2 which means they will slowly reach dev30

[zinc flower]

Is there a point in doing plymouth if i don't have enough tech points for her

[undone plover]

Yes
Prints take a long time
The sooner u start the better
In a few weeks u can get points for her if u wanted

[zinc flower]

Do you mean when agïr is coinable?

[summer cove]

i know how to get tech points but it takes a lot for me to do so

[undone plover]

I meant for AvP and anchorage
U can get them and start coining them (they are coinable already)
Agir should become coinable soon as well
Which is why I say start focus on 5

[summer cove]

i want to get Flandre first for instance

[junior walrus]

Should I MLB my Howe with the stuff I got from the pack?

[viscid swift]

yes

[junior walrus]

Who should I gear first

[cobalt rapids]

+13 goldburn +11 toolkit mogador will have 3489 hp
in 75s it will heal for 34.89 * 5 for a total of 3663.45 hp
+13 goldburn +13 bubbly mogador will have 3549 hp
in 75 it will heal for 35.49 * 3 for a total of 3,655.47 hp
so they are pretty even at max enh

[viscid swift]

everyone in your first fleet

[junior walrus]

I switched back Albion to try and beat t5 since I don’t have the gold to mlb Howe rn

[undone plover]

Howe is already MLB in that ss

[zinc flower]

Why does the guide put 5h and 8h gold faces in A tier if i'm supposed to avoid them?

[cobalt rapids]

its for ship focus guide

[viscid swift]

Enterprise you mean

[undone plover]

The guide is general
It cant account for every niche

Perhaps a better phrasing is take 2.5h over 5/8h if u can
I personally would take a 1h Q and hope to reset for a 2.5h face than take an 8h pr face
Some ppl might not do that

U can take research according to the tiers in that guide u will be fine
As long as u take D and G mainly and occasionally Q u are picking them correctly

[viscid swift]

could you open any T3, 4 and 5 tech boxes you have and SS your depot

[forest palm]

seeing a lot of bad aux

[hollow gust]

lmao albion setup

[forest palm]

2 messers is cursed

[junior walrus]

Don’t have much in aux

[viscid swift]

use your catapults

[forest palm]

a lot better

[viscid swift]

so what else is there

[undone plover]

Give helena aux to howe

[forest palm]

those Aviation Oil Tanks also work similar to Steam Catapults

[junior walrus]

I mean I have Portland in that gear since the aux she has heals her and shes tank

[viscid swift]

^

[viscid swift]

that's still not brilliant

[hollow gust]

better then nothing lmao

[junior walrus]

I have no boxes atm and nothing to compose

[viscid swift]

then just screen shot your depot please

[junior walrus]

Also again only been playing since Monday

[hollow gust]

~~5$ pack ~~

[forest palm]

some box stuff

[viscid swift]

no

[junior walrus]

I just unlocked gear lab so I’m assuming that will help

[digital vault]

is there an auxiliary skin in new skin box?

[cobalt rapids]

what skin box

[fervent niche]

can I not get this? since the event is gone. 😦

[cobalt rapids]

cannot anymore, need to wait rerun

[junior walrus]

Am I missing anything based on my depot?

[zinc flower]

Ok thx

[fervent niche]

wooo, gotta wait 3 years

[digital vault]

to love ru

[cobalt rapids]

more like 1

[undone plover]

research is always complicated
feel free to ask questions if u dont understand sth

[viscid swift]

that

[digital vault]

the one in supply shop

[zinc cave]

No

[forest palm]

why SG, and Auto Loader

[viscid swift]

empty slots mean use whatever tehre for now

[cobalt rapids]

this one doesnt, and u can check the contents by pressing the info button

[viscid swift]

literally nothing better

no shells and only blue fire control radars

[digital vault]

[forest palm]

fair

[zinc cave]

Don't think we've ever got a coin Skin Box where it had an Aux in it

[hollow gust]

whaling 5 bucks would give so much goodies

[digital vault]

where are they usually?

[cobalt rapids]

usually in cruise pass

[zinc cave]

Cruise Pass, rarely Event

[cobalt rapids]

sometimes events

[digital vault]

i see

thats why i only got like 5

[viscid swift]

SG radar is replaced by that on howe in a few days
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Spooky_Scary_Specter

[zinc cave]

There's a FP Hit aux as well from the event

[junior walrus]

I swear I’m not crazy I’m looking at my gear I don’t have a lot of the purples here. At lesst not that many

[zinc cave]

The moon shaped pendant or something

[viscid swift]

that actually after combing through all the collab auxes

[viscid swift]

you have everything there

[zinc cave]

(they really need to lower the coin prices of tech boxes)

damn cat

but i suppose it may stimulate bad habits if they're too cheap

[undone plover]

why are u buying tech boxes with coin

[zinc cave]

When I'm window shopping for skill books* and getting moonblasted with 10k purple boxes on the side

[junior walrus]

Why give laffey triple instead of quad?

[viscid swift]

it's better

[junior walrus]

Fair lol

[zinc cave]

More consistent perhaps, I'm not sure if strictly better?

Auto play ig

[sweet delta]

it's better

[mellow cape]

Shimato fate worth it?

[viscid swift]

yes

[junior walrus]

? Pretty sure I got everything right

[viscid swift]

yep

[barren tapir]

id use a parallel torp bomb on uni but tenzan works too

[undone plover]

give that uni AA gun to helena later but it shouldnt matter for event I think

[viscid swift]

I would agree if purple barracudda wasn't so sad

[stark quiver]

42 coins

[barren tapir]

they worked fine for me as transitional

[junior walrus]

Gearing in this game seems complicated. When I played raid one of content creators made a program for gearing that was very fleshed out

Literally would build you a full team for any content in game based on what your account had

[zinc cave]

Syncing gear to timings is a little complicated, gear itself not so much

[undone plover]

there are guides to learn and u are always free to ask if u are interested but yeah it is not intuitive most of the time

[viscid swift]

it is, aside from the complexity of determining if gear is good or not
best in slot as a concept doesn't really exist in AL, the best gear is always gonna be situationally dependent

[junior walrus]

Send T5 like this should be doable in auto?

[undone plover]

tbh gear by itself can be complicated
like aa guns and vanguard main guns

[viscid swift]

maybe get a few more levels on some of the gears but yes

[barren tapir]

with manual node selection i think so yes

[barren tapir]

fr. bb gun is easy compared to how many option vg ships have which are all some level of good

[forest palm]

gearing is only complex relative to your knowledge

cause there's a lot of cookie cutter builds you can make that'll work for most content

[stark quiver]

You can always copy someone’s homework

[summer cove]

whats the diff between this and this?

isnt the yellow one better cuz it lets you upgrade from 1 to 7? while the other is from 2 to 7?

[tame jungle]

gold for gold ships
rainbow for rainbow ships

[summer cove]

oh

is Flandre gold or rainbow?

oh

[tame jungle]

gold
generally try to use your prints for the highest season you can use them for

[summer cove]

so is it worth to use the event tokens in these blueprints rather than the ship that costs 8000?

[summer cove]

i just love Flandre. i wanna get her and marry her

[tame jungle]

you can always get and use her later
take care of the chores first then you can use whoever you like

[atomic abyss]

unfortunately, i believe flandre is one of the most painful to unlock for new players...

[sweet delta]

reserve 8000 if the Momo doesn't drop from T5 or SP

[atomic abyss]

[summer cove]

yeah cuz of the vichya tech right?

[sweet delta]

also consider that Momo may never return to the game, while ship blueprints yyou can get every day

[atomic abyss]

vichiya is one, ironblood is another

800 ib tech is enough to unlock fdg

[summer cove]

but you can do both once you get 800, right? or does it reset?

[atomic abyss]

well you'd prio fdg

[summer cove]

why?

[tame jungle]

because she's better

[atomic abyss]

because she's one of the best battleships in the game

[viscid swift]

it's milestone-esk, you don't spend the points when you unlock a ship

[atomic abyss]

her blueprints can also be purchased with coins

meaning the longer you wait the longer it'll take to max

[viscid swift]

better, faster, stronger, etc

[tame jungle]

daft punk

[summer cove]

but i could replace friederich with some ur from event(?

[atomic abyss]

while flandre doesnt have that option

[junior walrus]

Boss fight was kinda close but passed

[viscid swift]

Flandre would get replaced even faster by "some UR from event"

[summer cove]

but i love her

[atomic abyss]

fdg herself replaces flandre

[tame jungle]

you can get flandre later

[atomic abyss]

prioritise good ships first before waifus

so your good ships can carry your waifus thru the content

[viscid swift]

like you can go for ehr but going after her right now when you're early game will be more hassle and if anything take longer than if you wait until you're at least mid game(i.e. reached W12)

[copper ermine]

since i have enough blueprints to make the suisei dive bomber is it worth it?

[atomic abyss]

no its shit

[ivory pawn]

FDG only take 630 points, getting and maxing her will get you Flandre quicker.

[atomic abyss]

oh lmao even less

was it agir with 800?

[viscid swift]

around that

[atomic abyss]

nope agir is 700

[viscid swift]

tech point powercreep/inflation

[atomic abyss]

how tf is agir easier to unlock

[stark quiver]

is 100 cv rld possible from cats tech and oaths

[viscid swift]

inflation, that's why

[cobalt rapids]

81

[summer cove]

ok, is there anyway to get to friederich fast? the tech points i mean, i have my main fleet which has no iron blood ships on it

[viscid swift]

for now don't focus on PR at all

it's a secondary concern at best until you get to W12

[summer cove]

w12 stands for chapter 12?

[viscid swift]

yes

[copper ermine]

i ran the iron blood war archive to get the elite ships and ranked them which helped a lot

[summer cove]

why specifically that chaptre tho?

[summer cove]

oh thats actually a good idea

[viscid swift]

it's the chapter where you'll settle down and be able to farm the resources needed to do research efficiently and quickly

[atomic abyss]

one of the best exp to oil ratio
while also getting loads of coins

[summer cove]

which one is the iron blood war archive?

[atomic abyss]

while also being relatively easier to farm

[summer cove]

i see

[atomic abyss]

divergent chessboard, but ignore farming war archive first

[summer cove]

shi

so its just ignore everything till i get chapter 12 type shi?

[ivory pawn]

Well, don’t ignore event, especially if you can farm T5.

[atomic abyss]

event first to get enough event currency yes
then push campaign once you're done grinding or the event is over

[summer cove]

what is T5...?

[sweet delta]

event

[atomic abyss]

T5 is the final event map

[summer cove]

oh

[junior walrus]

I can auto sortie it letsgo thank all of you for gear tips

[viscid swift]

this is why gearing matters

[tranquil rock]

when is the next major event releasing?
january?

[atomic abyss]

we get major events like, every month

[junior walrus]

Is this worth doing?

[atomic abyss]

if you can barely clear t5 i would ignore this

[junior walrus]

Word

[tranquil rock]

havent kept up with al update schedule so

[atomic abyss]

we expect a major event with a UR next month

[junior walrus]

I’ll just keep auto T5 snd hope for momo

[atomic abyss]

so do keep a look out on the news channel here if you're not active in the game

[tranquil rock]

which faction do you think itll be?

[atomic abyss]

or ya know, twitter directly

#al-lore predicts pasta iirc

i am in no place to predict

[tranquil rock]

ironblood?
latias has predicted factions before
oh

[atomic abyss]

best ask latias yourself then if the view has changed

could also just be people coping for pasta

[stark quiver]

is there anything good in the meta ship gring after 25k pts

[viscid swift]

cog chips, META enhnacement mats

[tame jungle]

bunch of mats and cog chips mainly

[cobalt rapids]

and cats

[summer cove]

other than dorm and dock space what could i spend gems in?

[remote quarry]

2nd floor of dorm

[cobalt rapids]

/gems in #bot-spam

[uncut zinc]

skins , change username , learning skills and more i think

[tame jungle]

you can but you shouldn't

[summer cove]

oh, how much does it cost?

[viscid swift]

500 gems

[summer cove]

i see, i first have to expand im seeing

after that im assuming i must unlock extra slots on the 2nd floor

[ivory pawn]

Nope, uses the same amount as your first floor.

[remote quarry]

2nd floor makes farming so much more comfy

[summer cove]

yes i'm seein

ill do that, and then maybe spent until 200 dock space, im unsure ill need more than that since i just retire unused ships

[remote quarry]

Remember you can also get dock space from your guild

[ivory pawn]

You'll need more, but you can get it when you need it.

[summer cove]

oh you can? how?

[weary gust]

There are over 600 ships in the game and you get bonuses for each one you collect, max limit break, and get to 120. You will want more than 200 dock spaces.

[summer cove]

oh...

[tall bane]

should i make a second mob fleet as i am going to 13-1

[ivory pawn]

Guild Tech, costs guild coins and regular coins for each +2 slots, up to +30.

[tall bane]

or upgrade my British fleet

b4 making the german/japanese one

[summer cove]

I see

[atomic abyss]

I would ignore faction fleets and just build proper fleets

[soft raft]

First off, why are you making faction fleets

[atomic abyss]

Especially since you're going to actually challenge difficult content now

[tall bane]

idk it seems cool

[atomic abyss]

Faction fleets won't cut it past 13 without a super extraordinary amount of min maxing

Faction fleets are just actively worse than mixed fleets

[tall bane]

well the british one had quess Elizabeth so i thought she can buff all of them

[soft raft]

and/or extreme patience for constantly resetting runs and manual

[soft raft]

Faction buffer

[atomic abyss]

And unfortunately, the issue is that qe herself is a steaming pile of rubbish

[weary gust]

QE is awful

[tall bane]

damn

[atomic abyss]

If we had a faction buffer that had actually good damage or utility, it'd be different

But at that point, we're using them for the damage and utility, not the faction buff (like amagi CV)

[viscid swift]

faction buffs also don't make bad ships not bad, just makes them slightly less bad

[tall bane]

hmmmm ok i'll try to make a different fleet then

[remote quarry]

Honestly, the faction buffers all need retrofits

[atomic abyss]

QE has nothing going for her so she's a burden really

[viscid swift]

not all the faction buffers

[tall bane]

can i add images here to show what i am working with

[viscid swift]

yes

[tall bane]

or is ther somewhere else

[viscid swift]

just do it in a thread if it's more than 2 or 3 images

[tall bane]

Currently tring to max out san diego (last retrofit)

[viscid swift]

not terrible actually

[tall bane]

and helena

[junior walrus]

Should I just sit on these medals for now?

[viscid swift]

no, grab the other gold bullin at least

plus either Sirius or San Diego after that

[stark quiver]

spec core?

[tall bane]

i got shinano recently and am working on her too

[viscid swift]

Mob: Independence, Unicorn, Yorktown 2, Neptune, Laffey, Cheshire
Boss: Musashi, AvP, Enterprise, Eugen, Helena, San Diego

[summer cove]

is Helena good for bosses?

[soft raft]

Outside of W14-15 yee

[summer cove]

how so? she doesnt escalate into endgame or is just that there are far better options?

[remote quarry]

She dies too quickly in W14 and 15, iirc

[junior walrus]

I pulled a San Diego already

[barren tapir]

all of them would need retro + aug and both to be smashingly good to actually be relevant because faction fleets still heavily restrict your comps

[viscid swift]

you want to stagger your main fleet, she's too fragile, and too inconsistent
is the gist of why Helena is rather poor for later campaign stages

[soft raft]

the bosses there arent really structured to where Helena's Debuff can be meaningful

the boss fights are basically mob fights + Boss and considering how many bullets and torps there are, someone like Helena isnt as useful over either pure DPS or a tank/tank utility

[summer cove]

i see

[barren tapir]

honestly the mob fleet is perfectly serviceable if you ditch QE for a good cv

[tall bane]

aight i am just missing the t3 cruiser retrofit blueprint

[summer cove]

so in endgame its crucial to have tanks in your vanguard
my question is, why does everyone recall Unicorn as just for the mob fleet if the healing could help tanks survive a ton during bosses?

[tame jungle]

her own damage is just not good enough

[barren tapir]

because you need dmg for bosses and bosses do lots of dmg

[summer cove]

and cant you outtank them?

[barren tapir]

sub healer sometimes used in w15 boss tho i think?

[soft raft]

the boss fleet also only fights once per sortie so the overall heal output of a healer isnt really as necessary compared to more damage to kill the boss faster

[barren tapir]

nah bosses hit very hard in lategame

[summer cove]

oh i see

[summer cove]

so its just whoever dies first

[barren tapir]

killing boss sooner means less damage taken

[barren tapir]

follow this, i was scrolled up and commenting as i went lol @tall bane

[junior walrus]

Around what stage will I start needing a mob fleet and boss fleet?

[viscid swift]

for you specifically right now you should start looking into it

[remote quarry]

Been a long time since I was new, but maybe W9-10?

[soft raft]

roughly W9-10 yee

[viscid swift]

I said earlier when you get to W9 but you're artificially behind in terms of your prorgess in the MC

[barren tapir]

if you can t5 in the event look into it

[junior walrus]

I couldn’t do t5 with second fleet units at least not rn

Maybe after unicorn has retro

[barren tapir]

once at safe you can do it probably i have made level 30-40s survive (main fleets except uni and center vanguard)

[junior walrus]

More units to poorly gear great

[prime glacier]

Hi! I want to start playing again. do I need to join a new server or I can continue to play on my old account?

[ivory pawn]

If you can access your old account, I don't see why you couldn't continue to play on it.

[prime glacier]

Ok I will come back and show what I have on it

[prime glacier]

I am at 10-1 and this is what i have

What should I do now?

[undone plover]

I dont think u linked the pictures

[prime glacier]

They are still uploading

[sweet delta]

how many Iron Blood tech points do you have in the lab?

[prime glacier]

for Friedrich?

I am building her, only need to finish 2.4 mill xp on iron blood, I have 34%

[sweet delta]

ok then continue doing that on T5 of the event

[prime glacier]

is the event going to last a lot? I only opened the game as I will go to sleep after this and start playing the game tomorrow

[ivory pawn]

Like another ~10 days.

[sweet delta]

if you have extra slots in your fleets then level up good ships like Shinano, Enterprise, Sirius, sandiego, and Helena to level 120+

if you don't play a lot, then do the 1200 oil commission for coins because T5 doesn't give as many coins as chapter 11+

but actually farming maps with oil is more efficient than the 1200 oil

[prime glacier]

I think I will play a lot per day

[sweet delta]

well just don't get burnt out is that what happened multiple times before?

[prime glacier]

how can I know if a ship is good? there was a tierlist?

[undone plover]

give this a read tomorrow as well https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
put focus on PR5 in research academy
catchup on FdG > anchorage/AvP in shipyard

[sweet delta]

there are general tier lists in #bot-spam /tierlist
or this one is more focused on endgame so it distinguishes between the good ships but is less precise on the bad to average ships https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?usp=sharing

[undone plover]

this is an overall tier list u can reference
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home
it is a general tier list which is not always applicable since some ships are better in certain content
also might be missing some of the newer event ships since it is not being updated very often
u will learn which ships are good over time but for now raise the ones sushi mentioned and get FdG

[prime glacier]

nice this is what i was using before

[undone plover]

check out sushi's list as well later on or if u want more information about some of the better ships

[prime glacier]

so for now, grind event with iron blood ships and some other good ships

ships get xp only during battle right? the other fleet will not get the xp

[undone plover]

yes
make sure u use iron blood backline for FdG
no need to use frontline as well

[prime glacier]

will Bremerton, Montpelier and Sandy be too oil expensive for frontline event grind?

[undone plover]

if u are clearing the map for the first time and struggling use unicorn
once the map is safe like this u can use 3 iron blood backliners

[prime glacier]

so only use unicorn as backline?

[undone plover]

use unicorn + 1 other ship until u get to T5
I think it will be fine so u dont waste oil

after u clear T5 once and unlock clearing mode u should use full 3:3 fleet

[prime glacier]

unicorn + sandy should beat everything till t5

should I push story?

[undone plover]

do event for now
story is always there

[sweet delta]

after the event, then you should go to chapter 12 for coin and exp farm

[junior walrus]

Are these not both carrier blueprints? What am I missing here

[prime glacier]

Should I try to get better weapons?

[junior walrus]

also asssuming I should avoid these for now?

[prime glacier]

already built?

[junior walrus]

Wait you’re right yeah it’s showing what I spent to get it

[prime glacier]

looks like you need to get more blueprints?

[sweet delta]

it's ok to spend it, but reserve one gold Cruiser blueprint for portland i think?

[undone plover]

yeah imo dont build her yet

yeah portland needs 1 T3

so as long as u have 1 extra for her should be fine to build saint louis

[prime glacier]

are these wepons fine for now?

[sweet delta]

no

could you post in a thread 🧵your depot with purple gear too

[prime glacier]

how can i do that?

[sweet delta]

/equip or crosscheck with the first link yourself

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[sweet delta]

in particular, these 4 airplanes are bad

[prime glacier]

how can i post a thread?

did the meta shift that much?

[sweet delta]

click the thread icon or just type /thread

no, those planes have never been good

[prime glacier]

ok i make the thread

[undone plover]

u can use this
tell me if u dont have anything
dont worry too much about the aa guns
laffey is just there as an example
most DD should use similar gear like her

sushi is blue gun better for sandy

[sweet delta]

it sure is cheaper

[prime glacier]

should I use this a a main fleet or are they examples for each class?

[undone plover]

u could use it
when the map is safe or when u get unicorn to level 120 u can replace her with graf zeppelin to get FdG faster
also when laffey is 120 take her out for bremerton/montpelier/sirius if u can MLB her
use this for zeppy

dont waste materials on zeppelin augment

[prime glacier]

can you see my thread?

[forest palm]

Zep Augment is rather nice for mobbing tbh

[prime glacier]

is this an example of a fleet I need to use? or just general gear?

[summer cove]

is there any point in going for 3 stars in event world?

[prime glacier]

is that a site that displays the best builds foe each ship?

[forest palm]

mission rewards

literally can do it on the first clear too

[cloud surge]

you don't need to complete all the cruise missions for lvl 100 right?

[forest palm]

you don't
5 weeks worth of missions + SP + and about 4 missions from week 6 will net 100

[cloud surge]

ugh

time to email support then

[ivory pawn]

Would Lala Deviluke be a decent upgrade to Portland as a boss tank? Mostly in terms of Meta/Opsi where Portland's starting to show cracks.

[undone plover]

decent upgrade sure
anchorage still a better tank and worth working towards

[ivory pawn]

Working her way, just very slow to get tech points.

[hollow gust]

fancy is a better option

[ivory pawn]

Skipped her banner.

[remote quarry]

USS is one of the easier factions to get tech points for

[undone plover]

well lala wouldnt help with the tech point issue
but work on getting some of the blue EU BB MLB
and yorktown/enty/hornet

eagle union tech isnt the hardest thing to get but u need to work on it it wont magically happen

[forest palm]

Fancy doesn't have good tech so 🚮

either way Fancy, and Lala aren't worth the Bulins

[ivory pawn]

I'll get there eventually, just very slow atm. Enty's almost 120, so that'll be a nice boost to it at least.

[spark ridge]

i use this https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[remote quarry]

Don't wanna waste any cog arrays. Any of these good candidates for 125?

[sweet delta]

not now, possibly archerfish much later

[viscid swift]

not really

pretty much everything there is just tech besides the subs

[remote quarry]

I am in W15, how much later? Albacore already 125

[jolly lion]

Has anyone cleared today's puzzle yet?

[viscid swift]

yes

[forest palm]

it's easy

[remote quarry]

This was one of the easier puzzles

[mellow cape]

Spam tap the title

[coarse heron]

This was even easier than yesterday’s

[forest palm]

the spoon is real

[mellow cape]

Spam tap the title x2 it auto solves it

[viscid swift]

where's the fun in that though

[hollow gust]

man the general population is stpid

[forest palm]

and lazy

[signal ice]

Are comments on shipgirls in the dock visible for every server or just yours?

[coarse heron]

Per server

[sweet delta]

i mean then you should have a huge array surplus and can do whatever you want after reseving some for new ships

[remote quarry]

I have about 2k arrays

And 65k chips

[viscid swift]

yeah the latter should go down a lot soon enough

[hollow gust]

i should start hoarding to get ready for 130, im down to 400 arrays

[atomic lagoon]

inb4 they add a new currency for that

[signal ice]

This thing

Just confirming

[coarse heron]

Bro I just told you, per server

[signal ice]

I was just confirming

[forest palm]

[tall bane]

i am almost done with Friedrich der Große should i switch someone with her?

[fresh briar]

Who should I retire?

[viscid swift]

you mean she's close to being dev 30?

[tall bane]

no... i almost got her i just need the coins

but when i do should i?

[viscid swift]

that's so far off that the answer I give you now probably won't be applicable when she's ready

[undone plover]

can u get more dock space?
u557 u556 and u73 are in guild shop so u can get them back the easiest
the purple I-subs are gacha only
all the purples dont matter pretty much for meta reasons

[viscid swift]

well first things first have you culled all the dupes and used all the bullins,
2nd can you not afford more dock space

[fresh briar]

Well I can't get more dock space because I already max it to the guild shop and I'm broke to buy some in shop with gems

[viscid swift]

what have you spent your gems on then

[tall bane]

ok

[viscid swift]

is it skins, oath rings, training slots, etc

[fresh briar]

Amagi Cv skin of course and Fargo Skin

[viscid swift]

well there you go

[signal ice]

Dockspace

[undone plover]

u might be able to get more gems from collection or 3 starring some maps
as f2p u rly should get some dock space
getting to 300+ at least is recommended
and spending on skins is not

[fresh briar]

Also I have a lot of damn stupid event ship

[viscid swift]

I should say why, retiring ships isn't addressing the issue it's just puting off the inevitable

[fresh briar]

Yep I should not waste gems
I will use it on my dorm

[viscid swift]

because there will eventually reach a point where you do get close to getting 150 ships you'll actually want to keep be it for meta, waifu, etc reasons

[undone plover]

only third dorm slot and 2nd floor
dont get anything else

[fresh briar]

I needed 800 gems BRUH

[viscid swift]

this is why we don't reccomend getting skins as a free 2 play

[fresh briar]

1300 Amagi Cv cost
980 Fargo skin cost

I think 1280 on Amagi I guess

[undone plover]

it doesnt matter what is done is done
I recommend u spend the rest on 3rd dorm slot 2nd floor and dockspace if u have any left
and any that u might get in the future

[viscid swift]

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

subtract 500 from this number because a new player is not 3 starring W14 or 15 anytime soon

[spark ridge]

how does paying help u 3 star w14 or 15? what, is skins and dock space gonna help u beat them lol

[viscid swift]

it doesn't, poor choice of words there

[fresh briar]

Well yeah I'll wait until next anniversary I might use it to my dorm

[coarse heron]

is this thing even worth crafting? the reload seems way too fucking slow.

[viscid swift]

Not really

[coarse heron]

yeah didn't think so

[sweet delta]

i used it twice

[viscid swift]

It's an HE version of the 460 in affect

[undone plover]

was it used in one meta fight?

[sweet delta]

it was ok for kirov meta

[spark ridge]

does anniversary give dock space or something, i feel like i caguely remmeber seeing someone mention dock space and anni int he same sentance

[fresh briar]

I think I made a mistake using nagato meta

[viscid swift]

You get about 1k free gems give or take

[spark ridge]

ah right thats neato

[full trout]

Is it important to 3 star all hard mode levels? Or just jump to the higher levels that I can do?

[coarse heron]

only if you want the 3 star clearing rewards

[full trout]

👍

[spark ridge]

for hard levels u get the gold retro for the later ones, so if u need those theyre gauranteed drops vs needing to get lucky

[coarse heron]

I only did them to get them off my missions screen

[fallow sedge]

What is bands collection?

[barren tapir]

Memento

[vale spindle]

Where does it say "bands collection" in game? Or is that just a wiki thing

[viscid swift]

On this page nowhere

[stark quiver]

what are u missing?
guilioM?

[viscid swift]

yes

[languid reef]

yo why does the siren boss regen like 5x the healthbar several times in opsi after a certain point in time in the fight

[viscid swift]

that boss has a self heal after it drops below a certain amount of HP once per battle

[mellow cape]

Is there any factors that affect what type of researches pop up?

[soft raft]

Just RNG

[mellow cape]

Cool so I'm just getting the short stick with purely gear researches

[forest palm]

well there is one, and that's if you have a Ship maxed out

outside of that it's RNG what will show up

[sweet delta]

that's the long stick

[fresh briar]

Should I retire Washington

[soft raft]

She's pretty whatever outside of being tech pt fodder
Up to you

[storm heron]

potential use case: none
re-obtainability: Medal hull RnG
collection benefit: AA tech for BB/BC/BBV (Almost useless)

[stark quiver]

Fleet power mentioned?

[fresh briar]

Btw West Virginia good

[storm heron]

potential use case: none
collection benefit: 120 FP tech for BB/BC/BBV

[fresh briar]

I mean retrofit West Virginia

[storm heron]

yes, above

[languid reef]

potential use case for level 125 portland in the endgame?

[eternal moth]

Mob tank, although by that point I'd hope you have better

[storm heron]

potential use case: none

[soft raft]

She's AA tech lol

[junior walrus]

Going to keep 8k around in case I don’t get drop from T5, but anything from event shop I should prioritize? I was thinking gold gear boxes tbh

[stark quiver]

What about rikka takarada

[languid reef]

potential use case for building the other 3 fleets in opsi besides your main one?

[stark quiver]

Not rly

[storm heron]

oh yea lol

[forest palm]

left my Portland at Lv 100

[stark quiver]

I still have the Portland missions

[forest palm]

like not recommend but you can totally just abandon Portland after she's Lv 100, and Retrofitted

[storm heron]

Idk I am not familiar with her, but seems like use case none based on the tier list

[viscid swift]

Rikka is aging

[storm heron]

yeah I think gear boxes is ok too. Also you should grab blueprints and cognitives

[stark quiver]

I used her for w14, pretty reliable, but yea she’s pretty old now

[fresh briar]

West Virginia good retrofit or no

[barren tapir]

still B rank for w14 mob, she's a decent ship but aging as mentioned

[viscid swift]

meh to be honest, Nelson is better usually

[stark quiver]

Yes she is
She’s a decent retro

[fresh briar]

Colorado?

[viscid swift]

worse than Nelson still

[barren tapir]

shes a serviceable gold bb but would only use if waifu - nelson outcompetes her in every metric

[storm heron]

imo for the resource is pretty mid, you can put your coins somewhere else and still not having trouble to raise her non-retrofit version

[viscid swift]

same with Maryland before you ask

[barren tapir]

shes good enough to use and wont drag u down particularly but she is definitively a waifu pick

(i have raised and used both WV and nelson so i have experience w this)

[fresh briar]

Should I replace my Fargo?

[junior walrus]

What’s the point of the blueprints? Making other units?

[storm heron]

that's a no-context question

[soft raft]

just make a thread at this point dawg

[viscid swift]

enhancing PR ships

[barren tapir]

also same goes for all USS big sevens theyre just slightly worse nelsons with different flavor, but only nelson can reach 100% barrage

[viscid swift]

they're just straight up worse to be honest

[fresh briar]

Fargo is worth it to replace Chapaveh

[viscid swift]

they lack Nelson's single target change

[junior walrus]

I’ve only been playing a week should I be worried about that if the other option is just upgrading my current fleet?

[viscid swift]

not really no

[barren tapir]

the single target change isnt that significant tbh, the base dmg is a lot lower, so it's only a slight total dmg upgrade on a single typical sized enemy compared to the aoe variant

[storm heron]

they are both about the same priority

[barren tapir]

the biggest difference is nelson can reach 100%

[viscid swift]

well among other things it means she can off flag when it's procced consistently

[fresh briar]

Then I shall get The Boochi Girl and Agir No choice meh

[storm heron]

I mean not grabbing them only hurts you long term, since every blueprint you missed adds up

[viscid swift]

the Colorados have no such ability

[barren tapir]

yeah true it does make her more flexible

[viscid swift]

cope that Rodney does better I guess

[storm heron]

we have modney

[viscid swift]

yeah and she'll be gone for at least a year at the current rate

that and the average player's allergy to OpSi won't help

[barren tapir]

we have nagatom

a pretty obvious direct upgrade to all big sevens imo

[storm heron]

tbf meta fight is a pain in itself when you need 4 shots

[viscid swift]

she's an upgrade for certain but not an ideal one

[soft raft]

The real Nagato retrofit all along

[storm heron]

nagato meta prefers no ijn ships though

[barren tapir]

well ya shes best for mob, less so for boss and has a somewhat bothersome restriction

[viscid swift]

not what I meant

[barren tapir]

but the barrage is absurdly strong very very good for a gold, imo

[viscid swift]

in terms of her peformance no question

[storm heron]

but but modney barrage

[viscid swift]

in terms of an early-mid-game battleship though less so

which is the primary role of the Big 7 retros at this point anyway

[fresh briar]

Tell me what is wrong with my fleet

[barren tapir]

oh yeah i didnt mean she is a replacement for the earlygame meta

[storm heron]

oh nvm modney better than magato

[viscid swift]

I know you didn't but I wanted to elaborate on my cope Rodney comment

[viscid swift]

Hiei META isn't flagship for one

[storm heron]

w12 level

[viscid swift]

Roon muse

[soft raft]

Roon Muse is also not one of the more ideal purchases from core data

[barren tapir]

roon needs resting

well what's done is done, but she isn't mlb either

[summer cove]

is hood better than nelson?

[fresh briar]

Im not gonna let her rest

[barren tapir]

with augment maybe? i dont have her augment to compare. without augment nelson retro smokes her

[viscid swift]

against bosses she's worse

[storm heron]

oh no not this question again

[fresh briar]

Then should I make enterprise to be a flag ship

[viscid swift]

on mobbing I still hold her in fairly high regard

[barren tapir]

nelson also has better tech

[storm heron]

flashback to aurora and torva

[viscid swift]

Enterprise is already flag....
I'm saying make Hiei META the flagship

[soft raft]

He literally just said that Hiei isn't in flagship

So that means to swap her and Enterprise around

[fresh briar]

I'm sorry because I'm just an idiot man

[storm heron]

Hey look, nobody's mad here, we are all nice, civilized people

put hiei meta in the middle with the flag icon

[soft raft]

Bruh you have to be kidding at this point

Why do you have both Roons now as well? You don't need two tanks

[fresh briar]

I sended the wrong picture

[storm heron]

you should read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/

[fiery raptor]

aside from guam, laffii, cheshire and sandy who are other notable aa platforms with decent bulk and damage? Seattle? I feel reno and isuzu kai struggled enough in w13.

What are other options I can look into? I'm 120'ng juneau kai and eldridge. Is Nurnberg an option? (kind of doubt that though). Sumner and Ingraham did work in w14 could they survive w15 (safe)?

[viscid swift]

uhhh

[fiery raptor]

(I'm still doing the event, just want to do 1-2 runs of 15-4) to scratch the itch

[viscid swift]

Shimanto would be the obvious one missing

[fiery raptor]

ah yes. Okay. 125 now, but not maxed. forgot about her

[viscid swift]

I also don't know if I would call her an AA Carry but Scylla would probably contribute better than most