gameplay-help

[spring bolt]

that thing is just an sg, and only better than sg if the ship has 260 hit or higher, which only one ship in the game can reach without extra hit aux...

[queen jackal]

anyone have a picture of the predicted reruns chart

[barren tapir]

thats why i say its not good on dd.

[forest palm]

no such thing exists

[barren tapir]

there was one wasnt there

[forest palm]

not really much of a prediction sheet when you can just literally pull that information of the wiki

[trim sparrow]

Does luna want an AA gun or asw plane?

[forest palm]

Basically, most anything you'll see is a sheet or something of the like that compiles how the events were originally run and then goes off the assumption that that will be the sequence in which they'll rerun events. Which mind you is not 100% the case, and the developers can and have deviated from it.

[queen jackal]

yea i still wanted to see the sheet since i dont know the names of the events associated with characters, i know to take them with a grain of salt but i wanted a general idea

[barren tapir]

yeah it's not 100% reliable it's just nice to have the brief overview all in one spot

and i remember seeing one of those here posted quite often but it's an image of a discord message so i can't search it easily

[queen jackal]

yea i tried to look for it but couldnt really remember any easy keywords

[forest palm]

go look up Blaster's post history

[viscid swift]

it's blaster's dm him for it and save it somewhere

[barren tapir]

epic ty

[viscid swift]

it's gonna be a pain knowing if some of these are gonna rerun or not

[sharp socket]

did implac event have any gear in it

[forest palm]

Frostfall, and Zero to Hero may go the way of Operation Convergence,

[viscid swift]

Fairey something dive bomber

it's not had a relevant use thus far

[sharp socket]

what about map drops, anything good there

[forest palm]

this thing
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fairey_Firefly_(1771_NAS)

[viscid swift]

Operation Convergence isn't gonna necessarily not rerun

[viscid swift]

nope

[forest palm]

D3 was 113

[sharp socket]

single 113 or roomba 113

[viscid swift]

about the only other vaguely notable thing from Implacable's event is Scylla

[grizzled sundial]

If operation convergence not gonna have rerun , how long till blutcher add to permanent pool ?

[forest palm]

Oak was FP, Argus was Avi

[forest palm]

we honestly have to wait, and see what the next rerun will be

[viscid swift]

probably looking at 2 years still after it's original run if it doesn't rerun

[forest palm]

just feel like it's strongly possible they abandon smaller events like Operation Convergence to move the rerun table a little faster

[viscid swift]

I would agree if they didn't bother to rerun virtual tower

[forest palm]

all things considered they abandon some small events like Convergence it's going to be rough on new players cause it's just gonna be a slough of URs

[sharp socket]

i checked wiki its roomba 113

[viscid swift]

I just want to find whoever decided upon this rerun schedule and have some very strong word with them

[queen jackal]

any way i can change the background music of the lobby i dont wanna hear the to love ru song

[forest palm]

it's always the roomba, like the single didn't even exist during her event

[viscid swift]

just the music and/or game

[fallow sedge]

Every way to get combat data packs?

[amber frost]

Experience packs ? If so the store offers it.

[viscid swift]

PR missions and the cruise pass, that's pretty much all the non paid sources

[turbid dirge]

what does this mean

[elfin hollow]

check tech support channel

[turbid dirge]

okay compleatly forgot that channel is a thing thanks a lot

[frozen inlet]

is it better to use twin 410 mm NGM or triple 460mm MGM?

[crisp raven]

you can semi bypass it by setting a different ship with a music skin as a secretary. but if you scroll to another ship, the TLR music will start again. and prob changing different menus/returning to port, but i dont want to test it.

[queen jackal]

ah interesting, its fine ill just have music off for the event lol its mostly a reminder for me anyways so i dont forget my phone afk

[heady siren]

I have saint louis under development in research. Is she good for fleet building by any means?

[sweet delta]

She is weaker than retrofit Portland

[heady siren]

then I better stick to Portland.

If I binded the jp version with my yostar account, will this affect the EN version?

[elfin hollow]

yes

[heady siren]

Game data in the EN version will be affected if binded the same account to the jp version.

[elfin hollow]

what do u have binded on your EN account

prolly check in with tech support

[heady siren]

I binded the en version with my yostar account.

[soft raft]

for Musashi? Triple 410/Twin 410
Triple 460 is too fucking slow and Musashi is already slow enough for a UR BB

[elfin hollow]

yea not sure what'll happen

[heady siren]

I will go ask tech support about that.

[heady siren]

If I switch to another server, the progress in the previous server will be saved so when i switch back to the former, i can continue from where i have stopped?

[viscid swift]

yes

[heady siren]

Meaning switching to another server will create a brand new progress and the previous one will have its own progress saved.

[viscid swift]

yes

[spark ridge]

Idk if this is a bad idea but I just have her for tech points so I can research Brest

[heady siren]

How can i get tech points? They are required for development in research.

[viscid swift]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[weary gust]

Researching/building any PR/DR ship is fine. The important thing is your research focus so you're getting blueprints of the right season for the ships you need.

[spark ridge]

TL;DR get ships of same faction, get them MLB, heavy hulls give more points, higher rarity more points

[spark ridge]

I’m doing Brest catchup lmao, research V. Probably not optimal since I don’t plan on researching Brest until after I get maybe fdg and anchorage, and maybe a pr3 ship for newcomer. But also those bps can be bought (slowly) so idk what should be optimal lmao

[ivory pawn]

Imagine you also get a 2 week head start on buying those BPs on those useful ships you're going to want to use.

[viscid swift]

you can't coin any PRs past PR4 and DRs past PR3

[spark ridge]

Yeh that’s why I’m research 5 for brest since can’t coin for a while probably

[viscid swift]

not for more than a year still

have you finished PR4 yet?

[spark ridge]

No, I’ve only finished 1 and nearly finished 5. Then I plan on doing 4 anchorage, then 2 fdg (or vice versa idk who I plan on getting next)

Fdg I’m missing still a lot of tech, but roon should be done in a week and that’ll get me really really close to fdg, just one more mlb and I’ll have her unlocked

Only issue is that I only have 2 ships that are mainline iron, which is zeppy and zeppelin

[viscid swift]

by finish I should say I mean getting enough blueprints to max the ships

[spark ridge]

Oh no way lmao

[viscid swift]

so is your research focus on PR4 or PR5

[spark ridge]

5

[viscid swift]

I would reccomend 4 not 5

[spark ridge]

Focus anchorage?

[dreamy blade]

cant get bis/tirpitz from medal shop?

[dreamy blade]

research focus not catchup

[viscid swift]

I mean set your research focus to 4

[proud vector]

Recomend fleet for 15-3
mob fleet and boss fleet?

[spark ridge]

Yeh, but like for the purpose of getting anchorage. Or every ship in pr4?

[dreamy blade]

pr4 ships and gear prints

[viscid swift]

helping to max Anchorage and AvP sooner, getting Agir and Hakuryu prints but at this point mainly getting PR4 gear, primarily a Tenrai solely from research

[spark ridge]

Hmmm icic

What about fdg, not really worth it anymore? Just get any other random pr2 ship for newcomer? Or just ignore newcomer entirely lmao

[viscid swift]

you can coin FDG

[spark ridge]

Can’t u coin pr4 too

[mint flint]

yeah but theres a lot of ships you want from there + gear

[viscid swift]

yes, but not everyone in there

[spark ridge]

Ah oke

[viscid swift]

plus most of the gear from PR4 is still very relevant and you get it anywhere else

[dreamy blade]

you can save your catchups for pr1-4 ships for after youre done so you can convert the prints to protocore

[versed forum]

Is gold Roomba gun good for low/mid AA vanguard? I don't have enough quad bofor but I have a lot of roomba

[viscid swift]

And I should say when say research focus I mean this

[viscid swift]

it's better than the Quad bofors so yes

[spark ridge]

Wait so for the catchup, u can catchup each ship?

[viscid swift]

no

DRs each get a 150 BP catchup

PRs of each season get 300 total across all ships, can distributed however you like

[spark ridge]

Oh so DRs can do each, but pr is split between all

Right, was wondering why I could also catchup ply

[spark ridge]

Just logged in to check, currently CA CV options for me. Maybe I’ll get lucky next month

[sweet delta]

Well at least buy them too

[polar lion]

Which node shud I grind?

[silk helm]

momo drop from t5?

[viscid swift]

yes

[polar lion]

Oh TL nodes dun drop anything. Gotcha

[stone sluice]

How do you use the Augment module cores?

[sweet delta]

They're used for crafting augments

[stone sluice]

So for what I see, the cores are use to craft them and stones to level them up, right?

[sharp echo]

Can someone tell me which ships should I get for beginners? And where to find them? Still blind with the game

[soft raft]

Give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[primal silo]

The debuff when defeated on opsi can only be removed by command?

[weary gust]

When a ship sinks the red wrench debuff can be removed by repairing at a blue port, or by the fleet order command.

If it's a morale debuff from losing the battle but no one sunk, winning another battle with a different fleet will remove that debuff.

[primal silo]

Oh, repair costs coins
Interesting

[ivory pawn]

What does repairing at a blue port entail exactly, just using the Fleet Deployment command?

Oh, nvm, I'm dumb. I forgot you could click on the Port for things other than shop.

[viscid swift]

no, go into port and heal

[ivory pawn]

Could've saved myself some AP earlier.

[undone plover]

Fleet deployment is kinda free once per day tho
So if u dont swap fleets around a lot u can use it to heal once per day

Another thing u can do is use repair kits before repairing at port
Makes it cost less coins

[elfin hollow]

To equip these do my units need to be max limit break?

[chrome bramble]

is there an autosolver for this

[stark quiver]

no

[soft raft]

but alternatively, there are many ways to solve it

[chrome bramble]

this is impossible

[gusty olive]

Just try and you'll eventually get it

[stark quiver]

its possible, problem solving skills

[ivory pawn]

I found it easier once all the pieces were on the board personally. Then you can just move stuff around until it clicks.

[gusty olive]

I solved it while taking a dump lmaoooo

[undone plover]

I did my best on phone

[chrome bramble]

thanks

[tame pivot]

Once I have all my other PR 7 ships done so only Napoli face research will show up.. around how long should it take her to dev 30? Rn she needs 293 till dev 30

So far I have Nakhi and Halford already dev 30. Daisen needs 20 prints to hit Dev 30, and Bayard need 54.

[soft raft]

Dunno how we can quantify that in a substantially satisfying matter when research drops are pure RNG

At the very least, the face research pool narrows down the more ships of a season you max out (Which is D30, or if they have it, FS5)

[weary gust]

~15-20 per day maybe, if you're lucky. I'd guess 15-20 days.

Probably more realistically 30.

[tame pivot]

Sweet, figured it'd be less than 30 days once I knock out Daisen and Bayard.. been trying to get a 2nd strong lead CA aside from Anchorage..

[stark quiver]

wrong server?

[weary gust]

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[molten violet]

[tame pivot]

Like on the tier list CA/CB wise these are what I have.. and well.. compared to anchorage Prinz Hein and Talin just feel lacking.. def a fan of anchorages smokescreen

[weary gust]

Suspicious link?

[stark quiver]

im tempted to click it

[frank pulsar]

its strinova(?) gameplay

[frank pulsar]

anchorage is like top 5 tanks, ofc shes better than talin and hein

[south sequoia]

Finish a dr ship in a season first before moving to another season

D17 agir and d20 napoli is quite cursed

[tame pivot]

Yeahh, thats why im focused on PR7 and have been since release.. only reason Agir is 17 is because of catchup prints. Havent really touched PR 4 aside from rushing to get Anchorage Fate Sim V early on.. since I started In Jan of this year..

Also once Im completely done with PR7.. should I keep PR7 as my focus for a bit to Analyze bonus prints into Proto Cores until I can get the Triple 234mm? Since it'll be the first PR7 where I have all the ships dev 30

[bold salmon]

is the russian cat good for support fleet? (got implacable, 2 illus right now)

[weary gust]

Tenrai > UR CL gun > UR CA gun. As for what PR series you should do, might as well finish up pr7 since you're almost there, start coining a PR in PR1-4, use the catchup on them once you have them at FS5 so you can turn their catchup into protocores.

And set focus to PR4 after you finish PR7.

[tame pivot]

Well you'll need another russian ship in the same fleet as her with an ability to slow the enemies to get the most out of her skill..

[sweet delta]

shes the very best support carrier if she's at dev 30

[tame pivot]

Rn I use Soyuz and Tashkent (with special augment) to pair with her

[bold salmon]

ok thanks so replace one illus or illus u?

[weary gust]

What dev level is your nyak at?

[bold salmon]

30

[weary gust]

Then yes, replace illustrious, she's not good. Oh, for support fleet specifically Illustrious is good.

[sweet delta]

Assuming all have equal level, affinity, and gear etc., the best support fleet carriers are, in slightly decreasing order of strength: Nakhimov(REQUIRES DEV 30), Indomitable, Implacable, Illustrious, Illustrious mu, Chen Hai (retrofit), Little Illustrious, Langley (retrofit), Yorktown II, Independence, Albion, Centaur.

[bold salmon]

ok the mu go out thanks

[soft raft]

Hmm Nakhimov

[tame pivot]

Yeahh, I coined Gascogne to Dev 30 and Ive been converting the catchup prints I get from that into proto cores. and rn Im coining Saint Louis to Dev 30 so I can convert all 300 PR1 Catchup prints into Proto cores as well

[humble tapir]

is montpelier or cleveland better in general?

[weary gust]

Monty but neither are great.

[soft raft]

Both are pretty nothingburger in the long run, but Montpelier is at least not terrible

[humble tapir]

alr tq!

[soft raft]

granted she does need her unique aug to not be shit so it's up to you if that investment is worth it

[tame pivot]

After im done with that though.. before focusing back on PR4 should I quick swing back to PR6 just to get Kearsarge to Dev 30? shes 24 rn.. plus I could always use some more of these accelerator AA guns.. rn I only have two..

[weary gust]

Depends on your dock. If you already have a solid backline, Kear can wait. Bleh I am tired. Haku and Agir are in PR4, so tank/backline. I guess finish Kear.

[viscid swift]

those aa guns are useless

[soft raft]

eh there's really no need for accelerator guns that are not called Haze, STAAG, or UR AA

[weary gust]

Is PR4 still worth focusing on immediately over other seasons now that the PR4s can be coined? I would think PR5 might be better now, to go for Plym mainly ...

[tame pivot]

This is my main fleet ships sorted by level.. pretty decent variety imo.. plus I just got Musashi who I have slowly gaining XP in my dorm.. I def want Plymouth eventually tho for top tier CL

[wind hazel]

i still think the gear from pr4 is too good to pass on

[weary gust]

With that lineup you can go for the PR/DR ships in whatever order you like, you're not in urgent need of any ship roles.

[thick venture]

I have enough prints to get either haku or agir to dev 30
who do i dev and why

[weary gust]

Depends on dock. If you need a tank, Agir. If you need better backline, Haku

[viscid swift]

how many tenrais, and tenrai blueprints do you have

[spark ridge]

How important is fate simulation? Needed for ship to be usable at all, or is it less important vs dev 30

[viscid swift]

this, everything but the Marco Polo gun is still relevant and given the expense and average players avoidance of OpSi skipping PR4 is not adviasable

[viscid swift]

depends on the ship

[molten plover]

Is there a place to find all the Akashi print locations?

[weary gust]

Some ships really need their FS5 to function, like AVP. Others like Anchorage only get a small boost from it.

[viscid swift]

ranges from mandatory to basically irrelevant

[thick venture]

i have 1 tenrai and 17/50 to the next one
my azuma and anchorage is dev 30 are they good enough?

[tame pivot]

Im def good on backline AA guns.. just figured it'd be nice having something better than the generic Quad 40mms for my vanguard ships

[viscid swift]

have you bought all the tenrai blueprints from the prototype shop?

[stark quiver]

yea use staags
they arent only good for backline

[spark ridge]

The next few ships I am looking at getting from pr is fdg, anchorage, brest, and no clue who I should get from pr3.

[weary gust]

Pr3 is basically irrelevant.

[viscid swift]

cheshire would be the most relevant

[soft raft]

^

[spark ridge]

Cheshire maybe I guess yeah

[viscid swift]

Roombas and Twin 90s from PR4 would be better than both

[thick venture]

i havent, i have 31/50 counting those then

[viscid swift]

okay last question, do you have Shinano and/or Amagi MLB

[thick venture]

i have both yes

[soft raft]

are they MLB?

[thick venture]

yes

[spark ridge]

Any of these + cheshire need fate? Or getting them dev 30 is enough

[viscid swift]

probably Agir then, focus on getting the last 19 tenrai blueprints and dip from PR4

[tame pivot]

I love fate sim V on Prinz Rupprecht.. keeps my lowest HP ships healed without necessarily needing a healing ship like Uni or Perseus

[viscid swift]

Brest doesn't have a fate sim, Anchorage's and Cheshire's are irrelevent, FDG is a solid upgrade and AvP who you should be going for after FDG is mandatory

[hollow gust]

or just use uni? lmao

[viscid swift]

why use a healer at all

I don't even bother with toolboxes anymore for farming fleets

[hollow gust]

rupp does alot of things but that heal is basically for ib simps

[crystal flume]

when doing event stage for event currency.. is it better to go straight to boss? or it's better to clear all enemy?

[spark ridge]

Is avp or anchorage more important? Or both are important to get

Also is it get after fdg bc fdg will help meet tech reqs?

[viscid swift]

they're both more important than Brest

[tame pivot]

these are my Vanguard ships sorted by level too. Def cant wait to get Napoli tho so I have another top tier CA aside from anchorage. Def want to add Plymouth to the team later down the road too

[viscid swift]

but your priority should be FDG first then Anchorage and AvP, order for the latter 2 doesn't really matter

[weary gust]

Go straight for boss. you only get the currency on stage clear.

[tame pivot]

Well im just talking about content where I wanna use 1 backline ship but in situations where just running uni or perseus alone they'd get rushed and blown up..

[crystal flume]

ahhhh thank you!

[pale wing]

Guys, should i change her build tho?
I replaced the Type 94 Naval Gun with 410mm

[weary gust]

my eyes

[viscid swift]

I can think of very few scenarios where that would actually happen...

[stark quiver]

sashi wants black shell more?

[viscid swift]

table does that

[pale wing]

I'll try

[viscid swift]

everything but her main gun is bad

[hollow gust]

Her skill is also a built in white shelll

[pale wing]

Thinking if i should get that over the Type 1 AP

[stark quiver]

get them in pairs

[viscid swift]

no prioritize the white shell

[hollow gust]

White doesn't stack with purple tho

[tame pivot]

I still like Prinz Ruppy's Fate Sim V tho.. its pretty nice. Plus unlike Perseus and Uni.. Prinz Ruppy has a CL gun which is nice for taking out suicide boats that might make it past a 1 ship vanguard.. and I like her barrage too

[pale wing]

Yet
I used Officer's sword instead of Bowgun

[viscid swift]

which is fine, just saying there's very few scenarios where that specific niche would be useful

[weary gust]

Ruppy isn't really useful. She can hold her own up to W13, maybe even in w14, but there are plenty of better options.

[viscid swift]

huh?

[tame pivot]

and she's also nice for slotting into teams where an event map asks for a BC for stats..

[pale wing]

On Musashi as Augment Equipment

[viscid swift]

I know what augments are and I know the 2 you're talking about

I just don't know what you're trying to say with your response

[pale wing]

I thought its a good idea to use Officer's Sword to Musashi

[tame pivot]

Plus its not like theres a TON of options for BCs to pick from..

[pale wing]

But the reload of 410mm...

[viscid swift]

as with many things which augment to use is situationally dependent
Officer's Sword is more general use

Bowgun is a bit more niche by comparrison

[viscid swift]

my dude, I hate to say this but you're not changing our opinions on Ruppchrect

[pale wing]

How's that secondaries on First and Second Build Slot?

[weary gust]

Best in slot for BBs but unless you've got a lot of them you won't put it on her.

Doesn't make a huge difference (for BBs), just an FP stat stick mainly.

[tame pivot]

Im not trying to convince anyone that shes a god tier ship.. im just saying as far as specifically BC's go she's decently fun and that I like her fate sim V is all

[crystal flume]

it's fine to use x2 oil usage when repeating event stage right? if it's for event currency

[sweet delta]

They asked whether fates are good, not whether they're fun

[viscid swift]

okay, you do you but frankly I really don't care and you should take that to #al-general

[sweet delta]

It's fine to use them any time you don't have enough time to farm

[thick venture]

yeah i do that

[viscid swift]

you use it when you're short on time because it is almost purely a time saving item

or when the grind takes so bloody long you get impatient

[crystal flume]

ah

just making sure it also double the currency we get not only drop haha.. thank you o/

[thick venture]

what main gun for musashi

[viscid swift]

depends, 99/100 scenarios Purple Twin 410mm or Prototype Twin 410mm

[versed forum]

is anch fine without fate sim? i spent 290 dp to dev29 her, did i made a mistake?

[viscid swift]

yes, if they were PR4 prints that's fine

if the were PR5 or higher I'd call that wasteful

[soft raft]

her fate sim barely does anything
also dont forget to get her to lvl 70 to get to D30 and above

[versed forum]

oh that's a relief

[thick venture]

whats amagiCV 2nd BIS?

[viscid swift]

heavy armor, and she's pretty good against medium armor

[hollow gust]

ofc thats when comparison to other UR CVs, if she is one of your few, she would be best at everything

[stoic reef]

Are the new Collab ships good? Worth spending my cubes on? Otherwise I might use them on the standard banner to get more URs

[viscid swift]

the latter is always a terrible idea so don't do that regardless

as for the former, well it depends on how you define good and worth, long term they're merely collection but ships that have no guarantee of ever returning so treat this as your only oppurtunity to get them

[elfin hollow]

i would save for the new UR

[thick venture]

should amagicv get 2 dive bombers or 2 fighters or one both

[viscid swift]

she can't equip 2 fighters for one

[thick venture]

oh wait

[viscid swift]

as for what to use, situationally dependent as always

[vague fable]

which stage give the most currency for the event

[viscid swift]

per run T5

[sweet delta]

SP

[viscid swift]

except for SP but that's one time a day only

[vague fable]

does the challenge one does anything

[viscid swift]

one time 1k event points each for clearing them

[thick venture]

is the gold helldiver worth getting

[eternal moth]

It's such a small upgrade that no, it's not worth it.

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[stark quiver]

can purple D researches drop more than one UR print

[weary scroll]

Who should I pick first here?

[primal silo]

if you have none of them, get shinano

[sweet delta]

what other URs at what limit break do you have?

[sweet delta]

then keep getting Shinano until she's max limit broken

[weary scroll]

ok thx

dont use ur bulins on her?

[sweet delta]

ask when you have bulins

[atomic abyss]

Yes, don't

[left tiger]

Whats the generally used aux for musashi? Two shells?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[left tiger]

Aight thx

[stark quiver]

whats the xp gain in t5 comparable?
and wheres the best low cost farming spot

[lament hazel]

Lala = Drake(DR ASS KEK)++

Why is that?

[viscid swift]

in terms of efficinecy 11-1, best low cost is T3

you could do T4 but I've found it to be a bit unreliable

[whole crypt]

I'm just doing 5 oil T4

[stark quiver]

ranger + 2 mahan?

reliable?
btw what do you guys run for xfleet

[whole crypt]

musashi alsace soyuz kronshtadt shimakaze unzen

[stark quiver]

thanks

[dry ice]

[rapid grail]

are they lb0 lvl 70?

[odd cedar]

whats the best way to farm tech points to unlock agir?

[sweet delta]

get fdg

[odd cedar]

im still too noob to get them

[sweet delta]

fdg requires fewer tech points than aegir

[rapid grail]

get iron blood ships, any ship. this nets u tech point
then level them up, get MLB. this nets u tech point as well.
finally, get them to lvl 120. this gives them max tech point from ship.

and for xp grind, for phase 1, use backliners. and phase 2 uses frontliners. (true for all CBs)

[odd cedar]

would farming war archives divergent chessboard be good to farm iron blood ships?

though i do have a lot of purple bulins

[rapid grail]

yes it's one of the only war archive stages rec'd at ALL to farm just for the ib ships

[odd cedar]

just to be sure, is prinz eugen worth farming then?

cause im tryna lvl up the one you get in the beginning, and some of the purple ships

[frank pulsar]

eugen isnt worth investment

[odd cedar]

only reason i'd put her to 120 is she is one of the bigger ships that give a lot of tech points

[grizzled sundial]

How do i switch the current port BGM back to the old one ?

[spark ridge]

what was the list of rerun stuff? was yorktown II soon? is she really good, or not really much better than like shinano, enterprise, saratoga, so not really worth pulling for if my cube supplies are mega dead.

[plain saffron]

you can't

[vague dew]

Is it worth it to reroll?

[viscid swift]

not really no

[vague dew]

Oh okay. Is there any characters i should hope for when starting? Or from the event?

[heady siren]

which meta ship is recommended to purchase here?

[viscid swift]

you might wanna give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[viscid swift]

they're all useless for combat and just tech so no one really for now

[heady siren]

Okay.

[vague dew]

Ill read that now. Thanks

[bold stream]

Hello all! I can now get my free SR from the new player quest. Since I lack good CVs, I should be going for Enterprise right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[bold stream]

Thank you!

[bold stream]

Keep her in the dock for a bit then use only same 1 fleet until w12 right?

[viscid swift]

what no

around W9 is you want to aleat start on a 2nd fleet

[bold stream]

I see!

[sweet delta]

what does the development pack contain?

using it on an AA gun is likely a waste

[bold stream]

I have been farming event map with one fleet. Should I put her here to lvl?

[viscid swift]

yes

[bold stream]

Replace uni for a bit?

[viscid swift]

no Saratoga

[bold stream]

Or musashi?

Okay thanks!

[viscid swift]

catapults would be the best option followed by the quad mag torps

[sweet delta]

catapults fr

[late flame]

yeah i'd take steam catapult

[sweet delta]

6 at the very extreme minimum

[viscid swift]

it's the best aux for all CVs most of the times

[vague dew]

Is now a good time to start playing?

[viscid swift]

so around 8 at least

[eternal moth]

The correct answer is all of them

[sweet delta]

worse time than yesterday but a better time than tomorrow

[viscid swift]

best time was one seccond ago but no point in waiting

[polar venture]

Does momo believe deviluke give lab points M

[clever lance]

Is there a guide for the event with the blocks and straight line thing

[stark quiver]

no, use problem solving skills

[clever lance]

😦

[coarse heron]

It’s literally just connect the dots

[stark quiver]

not that this

[copper ermine]

how many blueprints do i need to finish a pr ship?

[atomic abyss]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[copper ermine]

oh its worse than i thought

[forest jasper]

the fighter needs to go

[atomic abyss]

The horrible fighter aside yes

[whole crypt]

it's not once you wrap your head around how to progress research efficiently, and it's a non-issue once you're caught up

bomber pretty bad too justs use helldivers

[forest jasper]

u got hellcat?

[clever lance]

Thanks

[atomic abyss]

It's not honestly

Use corsairs

The Ju-87c is only slightly worse than the Helldivers
It's still better than the suiseis and BTDs lol

[whole crypt]

considering junkers just barely catch up with helldivers with skill bonus on old graf zeppelin it really is

[atomic abyss]

It's literally better than Suisei and BTD so

[whole crypt]

do you have some of these

[atomic abyss]

Did I stutter

...stick with the purple one only

[late flame]

purple ver

[whole crypt]

do you have a purple one, blue is meh

the AVI isn't the main problem

[atomic abyss]

Stick with what you're using then

[whole crypt]

do you have purple/gold eagle union boxes to open

[whole crypt]

you didn't, you just got it confidently wrong

[atomic abyss]

It's literally better on light

I'm half right lol

[whole crypt]

which is literally the armour type that needs the least damage as well

[atomic abyss]

Which is literally the armour type that appears most early on

[whole crypt]

then stick with junkers I guess, how far are you in campaign

[atomic abyss]

Idk I'd rather use a not as good purple DB than invest more coins and plates in a just as meh gold DB

[whole crypt]

you should get at least one free purple helldiver around ch3 or 4

[late flame]

ignore me , misread its a waste of oil to farm stages for planes

[wind hazel]

it's from campaign clear reward...

[whole crypt]

no one said farm for it

there is literally a list of free gear handed out for early progression clearing

you could repeat the stage helldiver drops on if you're stuck for progression anyway

see if you can get up to this, you'll want some levels to push the event anyway

that is more than enough for carrying you to like ch7 or something, just swap out the oxytorps

well it's not like Tashkent is going to die to random shit at that level

just leave it on the radar as something you'll need to fix

[late flame]

or fire extinguisher

[wind hazel]

just go farm event T5 lol, it drops toolkit blueprints

[whole crypt]

lemme check event drop list...

that tashkent should carry you through T4 fine yeh

better to farm on T5 if you can get there since oil cap

[wind hazel]

maybe

[forest jasper]

u got unicorn retro?

[wind hazel]

what backline do you have

[pseudo phoenix]

Was Kojiki no Yami's (Golden Darkness) red skill useful?

[wind hazel]

[forest jasper]

if you want to use the ship, you need to lvl the skill up anyway

[whole crypt]

that's enough to clear T4 yeh, just see what else you can pile on to clear T5

[polar venture]

Collab units don't give lab points right?

[drifting pecan]

Any ship recommendation for 1:1 fleet? If possible low cost one

[pseudo phoenix]

Nope

[forest jasper]

rnger + cassin/downe

[polar venture]

What yall think should I get the collab unit in the shop?

[drifting pecan]

Uwah, i don't have them

[polar venture]

I feel lazy and just wanna get the level up resources

[whole crypt]

a 1:1 where for what

[drifting pecan]

T5 event stage

[whole crypt]

just use anything 120 or something

I assume this is for clearing, if you're grinding just use a full fleet the map cap is like 20

trying to low cost T5 grind is futile

[drifting pecan]

Okay, wow

Didn't know it yet

[whole crypt]

very outdated SR BB

pls2notfactionfleet

[tight parcel]

Are the Collab characters worth investing

[whole crypt]

if you want to then probably best now is probably Soyuz/Nakhimov/Chkalov, which I don't think you'll be anywhere close to forming

[whole crypt]

probably decent but not meta like they usually are

[barren tapir]

upper end of golds but not UR so automatically not meta

[lofty garnet]

how can you solve this? I am completely clueless

[forest jasper]

go down first

[rose cosmos]

How do I get these tlr roles

[barren tapir]

#role-claim

[rose cosmos]

Ty

[versed forum]

which is the best DD gun for Sandy if I don't have mog gun?

[wind hazel]

100kai

[lofty garnet]

thanks ! the arrow pointing down so that confused me lol

now it worked

[stark quiver]

hold up im blind 💀

[wind hazel]

[lofty garnet]

yea its confusing

[stark quiver]

i just did it and forgot

toolbox

[whole crypt]

swap them in if she stops surviving, probably will be fine up to t4

[final kayak]

I got a character called housho meta is that one of those bulin type character where they aren't meant for actual combat?

[wind hazel]

no, she's a META ship

[barren tapir]

no she isnt a bulin but don't use her she is very bad

[whole crypt]

not really a bulin but a pretty meh ship overall

[final kayak]

Ah fair I'm new so at this point I was considering using here over my blue characters

Ty!

[barren tapir]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips#basic_fleetbuilding https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

[final kayak]

Ohhh ty ❤️

[wind hazel]

it's at least 1

[forest jasper]

btw there is no way to replay the puzzle right?

[wind hazel]

dont think there is

[forest jasper]

i see

[clever lance]

Anybody have todays circuit map guide for the event

[stark quiver]

aurora clutching

[barren tapir]

(i dont have a clear img i borrowed someones from up there)

tomorrow ill make sure to save my own result

[rare wyvern]

I run this for 14-3 boss, how do I deal with the absence of a stop for the torp bombers ?

[atomic abyss]

You run parallels

[stark quiver]

[barren tapir]

w14 bosses are just super long mob fights

[atomic abyss]

^wyverns, breguets
Even spearfishes

[whole crypt]

wasn't 14-3 boss DDs, torps going to suck anyway

[clever lance]

Thanks

[atomic abyss]

Most of the w14 bosses are light armour

I believe only 14-4 isn't

Wait no I fucked up

[rare wyvern]

Baraccudas really too bad for that purpose ? I have like, 1 Breguet and 2 Vit-2s that I use for parallel bombing here already

[atomic abyss]

It's the other way lol

14-3 is the only one that isn't heavy

[whole crypt]

14-4 isn't heavy either

[wind hazel]

it's poverty by 14-3 standard

[barren tapir]

heavy heavy lightx2 medium iirc in order

[rare wyvern]

Also vanguard HE loadout even for my mob fleet ?

[barren tapir]

poverty but theyre good if you have nothing better

[rare wyvern]

UvH is running the 457 but

[wind hazel]

do you have champy gun

[rare wyvern]

I do not unfortunately

[wind hazel]

oh nvm i forgot 14-3 lol, use he for boss

[stark quiver]

mk6 we go

[barren tapir]

for this, do misses count or she has to take damage?

[jaunty vault]

evasions should count as attacks

[whole crypt]

a miss on eva check is still an attack

[jaunty vault]

yea

you want helldivers

[rapid grail]

does eld's slow proc on flagship preloaders?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[rapid grail]

on the start of the match?

[jaunty vault]

thats what a preload is

[rapid grail]

alright, thanks

[jaunty vault]

[sweet delta]

ultimate guide Help Me Miss Lala

Full solutions for both arranging pieces and drawing lines, for all days (including ones not unlocked yet)
||Press this button 5 times and it will auto complete the level for you||

[gusty olive]

Is SAP guns bad for secondary for BB's?

[jaunty vault]

its not the best + waste of that guns potential

[gusty olive]

how about AP?

[jaunty vault]

depends on the gun

[gusty olive]

Otto gun

Twin 150mm TbtsK C42T

[jaunty vault]

I personally wouldn't use it but its 45 FP so its not bad

[rapid grail]

p sure the only cases you'll need good CL/DD gun options for secondaries are on late campaign only (w14, 15)
so for everything else, even shit CL guns are fine
+45 FP is a welcome option, so go ahead if you wish.

[rare wyvern]

What are the priorities for lvl 120 techs to get ? CV RLD and generally Hit ?

[blissful hamlet]

how to beat today's puzzle

[sharp socket]

#gameplay-help message refer to this

[blissful hamlet]

no I want to solve it not to cheat my way through it

[sharp socket]

then mess around until you get it

[blissful hamlet]

give me clue or hint

[dusky cloak]

be smart

[barren tapir]

the ending arrow is the direction it should go in to leave the 'exit square' if you're confused by that

that got me initially

[blissful hamlet]

not the arrow part the tetris part

[barren tapir]

the left and right columns are a mirror reflection of each other on the diagonal

[blissful hamlet]

[barren tapir]

actually im bad at giving hints idk how to describe portions of it lol

[rapid grail]

is the +13 priority for antilight fighters being HVARs > La-9 > Bf-109g?

[blissful hamlet]

hvar are significantly ahead of the two

[exotic wren]

ngl, for a moment there I thought goober is now a mod

[steep peak]

W14 help

[thorn flume]

If my bulin raise lv, can I use mlb?

[wind hazel]

yeah just gotta check the filter

[wispy geyser]

any guide for this fuckin minigame?

i can't complete any 2k point quest

[late flame]

start game
quit game
profit

[barren tapir]

i mean it's only 100 event point reward you can ignore it

but it's just a dance game, the arrows tell you what order to move in

then you move once, bomb boom, move once, bomb boom, then see the next order. repeat

its a memorization game like u know, up up down down, in order repeat

once per bomb explosion. and also for whatever reason wasd doesnt work on emulator, youll have to click the arrows on the + controlpad to move

[polar lion]

Any of the new grills good?

[atomic abyss]

they're not URs so

the golds do seem good tho

how good we dont know

[barren tapir]

early prelim says very good for gold but not on UR level ofc

right now i believe cn is like

lala = drake fs5 with utility
nana = slightly weaker poikai
momo = helena meta with minor healing
golden darkness = slightly behind daisen/owari

[storm heron]

wait we have grills in azur lane?

[barren tapir]

ie, theyre really nice if you like them and pull for them but not worth going out of your way for if you don't

[gray sphinx]

how many cubes could I save until the next UR event? Just like a ballpark number. My cube count is looking kinda low

[atomic abyss]

400 to guarantee
you get about half of that

[barren tapir]

UR event shud be around 1 month from now so 168 minimum and ~200ish assuming active play

event likely ends early january giving you an additional 1.5 weeks or so, hypothetically. so another 40-60 cubes

[gray sphinx]

I'm cooked

I only have 96 cubes left rn

[gusty olive]

🇫

[gray sphinx]

gotta pray to the rng gods

[barren tapir]

if you grind a lot and the event leans later into december you still have a decent chance to reach pity (barely)

[gray sphinx]

praying we get another commission event

[barren tapir]

grind c1

[rare wyvern]

Is a gunnery DD better than a torpedo DD for mobbing on w14 ?

[atomic abyss]

you are strongly advised to have some sort of torper for w14, since the main threat outside subs are the heavy armoured BBs

ofc you could just rely on your carriers

[rare wyvern]

From the fleet advice I was given, Yuudachi is on boss fleet, but basically mob is Brest/Shimanto/Scylla and I pondered if I should get Mog or Shima

In mob

[atomic abyss]

i wouldnt change it

[cinder hornet]

I guess these points are just extra to ensure you clear the shop but nothing we can do with them?

[atomic abyss]

shimanto already fulfills the torp quota

[coarse heron]

it's to make sure the login warriors can clear the shop

[atomic abyss]

the only issue is maybe ASW

[rare wyvern]

Precisely

[atomic abyss]

depends on who you replace then

[rare wyvern]

That's why I thought of a DD, but I'm scared of the smaller damage uptime of a torp DD

[atomic abyss]

replace shimanto, use shima
replace scylla, use mog

[rare wyvern]

Okay

[heady siren]

Tweaked my fleet replacing Repulse with Oklahoma. I think this formation should be slightly better.

Since I don't have other good ships to fill in the left-most slot.

[atomic abyss]

no saratoga? or at least a ranger?

[wispy geyser]

i lost 520 cubes and over 400k coins for golden bitch. i am still at 3k cubes but 0!!! coins

[atomic abyss]

ok, #al-general if you wanna complain...

[wide ember]

What is the best way to farm exp for Pr ships ?

[atomic abyss]

you take the full frontline or backline for that faction, and grind their levels in w12

or in this case, T5

[wispy geyser]

sry, but in this situation i totally abaddon this collab event and must grind 15-4. i don't have resources for ur now, any better ideas?

[frank pulsar]

ranger is best until you get ship like saratoga or independence

[frank pulsar]

12-4/13-4 is where yr supposed to farm for coin not 15-4
thats only if you want houston ii

[heady siren]

I have ranger, also her multiple copies

[atomic abyss]

ranger > oklaholma

[heady siren]

alright,I'll take note.

[frank pulsar]

ive never heard of someone insane enough to farm 15-4 for coin

[atomic abyss]

at worst it's 15-1

[wispy geyser]

you know before event i had 500k now nothing

i am so much depressed that idk what to do. 500 coin per t5 run is a joke

[frank pulsar]

you do event for pts not for coin or exp

[atomic abyss]

grind 13-4 once you're done event grinding then

[barren tapir]

why the fuck would you grind 15-4 for coin

[late flame]

maybe a sadist for torture

[barren tapir]

maybe farming houston 2 alongside but ehh

do 12-1 or 12-4 for coin and then t5 for point

also t5 has 11-1 exp eff approximately so its quite nice

[wispy geyser]

torture not if i know what fleet build for 15-4 and i didn't sunk at once after guam/laff2 event

maybe still is not best idea though

[late flame]

would be nice if t5 has w12 equivalent gold for stage clears XD

[barren tapir]

well yeah bc ur prolly using capped ships and missing out on some exp

[barren tapir]

if it had the same raw coin rewards it'd be 12.5 efficiency which is absurd

[late flame]

gotta feedback to manjuu that one aint got time to coin farm w12/13 during event*
(wishful thinking, but i digress)

[little geyser]

Any of these worth using?

[wispy geyser]

all of them are usable

[barren tapir]

sneaky good eva aux, bubbly is basically a toolkit that stacks

sales is

[little geyser]

Alright thank you ☺️

[copper pine]

Ello...

[wind hazel]

bye

[copper pine]

@wind hazel is that cinderella

Btw since amagi UR, are there any good gold ships?

[wind hazel]

current collab

[copper pine]

Which ships

[wind hazel]

#gameplay-help message

[barren tapir]

and fancy

[forest palm]

[spark ridge]

really beginner question, is it better to rush through the map 3-4 times and then do the defeat all enemies in clearing mode? or does clearing mode not work for defeat all eneimes star

[viscid roost]

I think clearing mode goes for the boss as soon as it appears.

The 2nd star generally works by 1 full clear + however many minimum clears.

[spark ridge]

yeh thats what iw as doin but was wondeinrg if there was a more optimal way lmao

[late flame]

i've learnt to just do boss clear first time and defeat all enemies in second run, since it'll have fleet lock

[forest palm]

for Hard Mode it will remove mobs, but you can turn it off, on normal campaign it'll reduce the difficulty, which is recommended if you're struggling to defeat all enemies on a map

[storm heron]

who is this ship above?

[coarse heron]

I usually do defeat all enemies on very first clear unless I’m struggling with the enemies

[forest palm]

that's less likely to do once you hit world 13, and onward

[coarse heron]

I did it with 14-1 and 15-1

[forest palm]

the easiest maps go next la

[viscid roost]

Nürnberg.

[coarse heron]

Also know for sure I did it in 13-4

[storm heron]

oh I thought it's nurnask, okok

[forest palm]

also what's there to argue, I said less likely, not impossible

[coarse heron]

But yeah if you’re not struggling with the enemies just do defeat all enemies first

[soft dagger]

I'd do the opposite if its an oilcap map

[storm heron]

15-4 too

not as hard as they say tbh

[coarse heron]

I need an actual AA ship for my boss fleet before I try 15-3 and -4

[barren tapir]

its better w9+ to do it after clearing mode tho

since u save a whole lot of oil

unless you wanna challenge yourself then yea by all means do it before 100% clear

[coarse heron]

I only do progression when I’m oil capped

[barren tapir]

im an oil miser i hoard it more than america

[soft dagger]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/More-y_Glory_Aura_Booster
any funny business behind the passive?

[barren tapir]

dont think so

[turbid dawn]

Stupid question, but I was just about to level up Paimat and was wondering, do the amount of cog chips+coins change for awakening them after you retrofit into SR or does it always cost as much as if she were still an elite?

[atomic abyss]

their base rarity cost

[turbid dawn]

Thanks

[gray sphinx]

should I aim for a third wyvern or a second twin 57mm AA gun?

[undone plover]

Third wyvern imo

[gray sphinx]

what about a triple 406mm BB gun? I don't have a single one because I don't think I was really grinding that event when it was out.

[undone plover]

You can make it
It is a good gun for light armor bossing

[gray sphinx]

hmm okay so maybe triple 406, wyvern, and then maybe just twin 57 AA gun after? Looking for things I might need the most at the moment to hard focus my UR prints

[gusty olive]

What do the passives of each aux do again in detail?

[cobalt rapids]

they are on wiki

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/To_LOVE-Ru

[undone plover]

Kinda depends on your goals
I stopped converting blanks after 1 mk7 4 wyvern
The UR AA slowly accumulates overtime
None of the torp gear is worth the blanks

[gray sphinx]

bet guess I'll do that then

[wind hazel]

Spooky Scary Specter: When the wearer fires her Main Guns: makes the mood kinda spooky.

what... kind of spooky?

[undone plover]

U can make a second mk7 as well
It will be useful

[cobalt rapids]

spooky scary

[wind hazel]

[sharp echo]

should i just buy one immediately ?

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips this guide said that

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[undone plover]

Unicorn from elite
Portland from rare
T2 skill book (red book)
Gold plates (gun)
Refresh
Penny from rare
Helena from elite
Gold plates (gun)

[sharp echo]

buy all this? got it

[undone plover]

And join a guild to get more guild coin income

[barren tapir]

red skillbooks (maybe a couple yellow for uni tho)

[storm heron]

[sharp echo]

t2 red book 3x2 right?

[undone plover]

Also if after refresh any retrofit bp show up u can also grab them they are rly good

[undone plover]

Sure that works
Maybe mix in a couple of yellow like aurora said

[sharp echo]

okie

[barren tapir]

red is most needed but personally with guild shop i do 2:1 ratio of red to yellow early on when i had important yellows to level and i havent run out of red books yet

uni and helena both have very important yellows

[storm heron]

if you get all yellow you can upgrade uni immediately with 10x training bonus

[barren tapir]

oh shit u rite that exists rn

[sharp echo]

i bought 4 red 2 yellow

[storm heron]

if you bought red ummmm I guess you can still use it?

for whom idk

[sharp echo]

gold plate = the t4?
main gun?

[undone plover]

Yes

[cobalt rapids]

for pennys barrage

[icy mist]

Too much for my brain

[sharp echo]

all 5 ?

[undone plover]

Yeah u can afford it and later on it will be useful

[storm heron]

I personally wouldn't get gold plates early on tbh

[undone plover]

No reason not to
U have enough tokens for it

[storm heron]

I mean it's good for asap but who knows

[gray sphinx]

the purple ones go in the top left and bottom right and then you should be able to fill in the spaces from there. could be wrong tho lol been a while since I did it

[undone plover]

As long as u join a guild u will be fine

[wind hazel]

not getting them is trolling lol

[barren tapir]

enty, sara, hood but they wont have those yet

penny maybe, i did level her barrage skill to 6

[sharp echo]

is there publicly available guild in game?
or is it invitation only?

[barren tapir]

penny not rlly worth but it does help a bit if u plan to use her for a while which can be the case for newbies

[wind hazel]

#1246721562741178410 join an active one here

[mint flint]

if you arent in a guild then you're in the public guild

[barren tapir]

oh starter dd if it isnt javelin

[undone plover]

Hit join it should give some options in game
Or check that link mori posted

[barren tapir]

guild income may take some time (since near end of month, many guilds finish ops already)

[mint flint]

it works with the purple blocks both in the top left as well

[undone plover]

Usually the ones that post in discord are more active

[sharp echo]

ok, i wont bother to join an actual recruitment guild for the moment. ill just join random one first xd

[undone plover]

Weekly mission is still good

[barren tapir]

and u do want to keep some guild coin in reserve when retro bp and skillbook show up, those are far more important to newbie progress than gold plate imo

i wouldnt say hard no on gold plates, but be cautious for your first month or so

[icy mist]

Thanks @cobalt rapids @gray sphinx

[undone plover]

As long as a guild is active it is fine
There is nothing special about the discord ones
They are just probably more active which is better

[barren tapir]

be like me and get killer guild shops early on and run into crippling guild fund shortages

as long as it's a guild that runs guild operation and buys guild supply periodically while having enough ppl to finish them (10+ ppl or so?) its a fine guild to join

max techs is nice tho

[undone plover]

U can also leave and join any guild u want with a 24h cooldown so dw about it too much

[barren tapir]

tho tech wise dw if the guild isnt max dock tech yet itll take u months to actually upgrade it to max if u buy guild shop stuff often lol

im at 5/15

[sharp echo]

this retro bp?

[barren tapir]

yee buy carrier ones for unicorn!!

[undone plover]

Yeah get carrier prints

[sharp echo]

all 2? ok

[storm heron]

general blue too, ignore cats and food

[undone plover]

Get yellow skill books for uni as well

[barren tapir]

i wouldnt get general blue plates personally...youll get them by levelling up in campaign and event

[sharp echo]

990 point, more t4 plate?

[barren tapir]

i only ended up low on them when i upgraded like 40 toolkits to reduce having to swap stuff

[sharp echo]

more guns t4 plate? or get some another?

[storm heron]

general blue is very scarce early on though if you know what you're doing (upgrading poverty to +6) so just biy it if you need

[barren tapir]

if ur wondering how i have so many, the two events right after i start had them as event map drops in the maps i was able to do amagi b1/d1 and tempesta t5

(i still have like 30+ i can craft)

[undone plover]

Imo get them
If u are active and play daily u will get good guild token income

[storm heron]

you can't use them anytime soon, so it's up to you, but imo keep

[undone plover]

If u are worried u can skip for now
They are a mid-game investment not early game but they are rly needed later on

[barren tapir]

id just wait on it ensure you get accepted to a guild and then spend. there's 1.5 days before it refreshes anyway

[sharp echo]

ah ok, future proofing. i like that

[coarse heron]

From personal experience with my guild 8 people is enough to finish 2 ops per month

[barren tapir]

counterpoint: you typically dont have many poverty OR good aux to level to +6 super early on outside of really good luck on tech boxes

tho i will say yeah you can run into aux and main gun plate shortages if you luck into a lot of nice gear and upgrade all of it. but i dont think it's a concern for a 1st day player right now

[wind hazel]

it's easy to make the decision. the rest of the stuff can be easily grinded. gold plates can't be easily grinded

[undone plover]

As always there is short term gain and long term min max
Both are viable
Depends what the person wants more

[storm heron]

[barren tapir]

yeah, that's true. it's mainly a decision of short term or long term value. id still consider retro bps better until uni is retroed tho bc of how good she is, after that gold plates become top prio

[wraith wren]

how do i draw the line

[wind hazel]

simplest conclusion is to join an active guild, have guild income so that you don't have to worry about splitting decision

[barren tapir]

ye the thing is id just be cautious on it until you do get accepted to a guild it took me a couple days so

worst case you miss out on 5 gold plates because of waiting a bit, youll be fine

[mint flint]

the 2 times ive had to join a guild its happened within a day

[barren tapir]

ye idk the first 2 i tried didnt respond in a day then the 3rd i got in after an hour

[storm heron]

who can accept people? just the leader? or also the co leader and elder?

[mint flint]

pretty sure masters and officers

[barren tapir]

if u mean the puzzle thingy here

[mint flint]

elites seem to be identical to recruits

[wraith wren]

i did solve it randomly

cuz i turned my brain off

[storm heron]

ok so only leader and co-leader, I see

[undone plover]

It is an annoying notification tho
So if they are online they will check it

[storm heron]

nice then, good to know it's annoying

[late flame]

smh not 3d puzzle

[storm heron]

inless the leaser is a casual and turn off all notifications

[sharp echo]

FR is fire rate right?
what is FP?

[mint flint]

a stat

[soft dagger]

faiyapowah

[atomic abyss]

FP is firepower
used to calc gun dmg

[sharp echo]

so tldr just look at the fp which higher?

[mint flint]

no

that fp is additive to the ship's own fp stat, and theres diminishing returns

plus you're using the gun for its capabilities as a gun rather than its stat boosts

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[sharp echo]

it said unicorn retrofit asap, mean upgrade all this tech tree right?

[whole crypt]

the one you really want is modernization, which basically is the last node

[barren tapir]

[bold stream]

Hello all. My commissions are asking for lv100 ship rn. Do you guys use lv120-125 ship for commission on late game?

[forest palm]

Well late game you just have a lot of 100+ ships

[undone plover]

Late game u hit recommend and it will fill it for u

[sharp echo]

for daily build mission, should i just do light or do event?

[late flame]

how many cubes do you have now?

[sharp echo]

28

[barren tapir]

i would do 1 event a day if u care abt the collab ships otherwise 1 light

[late flame]

^

[sharp echo]

got it

[whole crypt]

depends on how late, my commissions pick 120/125 all the time when there are no other options

[undone plover]

Also not sure if guide mentions but when event is ongoing farming event is better than pushing campaign
U get more stuff that way

Although idk what is the earliest u can start event
I guess your ships should be ~ level25-30

[barren tapir]

what else are lvl120 fleet tech ships gonna do after all~

[whole crypt]

well once you hit that late in the game with maxed main fleet anything that has BB/CV reqs basically will always pick a maxed ship

[sharp echo]

where is that farming event?

[whole crypt]

basically the current collab event

most events like these will have an event shop and milestone rewards so you want to grind up the event as much as possible

[sharp echo]

ooh, i think my ship level still to low lol

[undone plover]

Might be worth using some xp books if u have to start it up

[sharp echo]

where is that?

dorm?

[mint flint]

on the ship gearing page

[sharp echo]

oh found it

[low lintel]

Hey would it be better to use Traditional fighters or rocket fighters for a boss fleet?

[sharp socket]

bomber fighter

[forest palm]

if AA is not a concern, and the Rocket Fighter actually fits the armor type

[sharp socket]

unless you can sync the rockets

if its campaign, bomber fighter
if opsi/meta fight, rockets if 1. matches armor type and 2. you can sync them to actually hit the boss

[forest palm]

like there's little reason to make, and use an A-6, or BF-109G for Medium, and Heavy over standard fighters, but there's a stronger case for the BF-109G on light if you're lacking the Hellcat HVAR

[low lintel]

What does it mean to sync?

[forest palm]

getting CVs to launch as closely as possible together

[plain saffron]

wrong server

[forest palm]

[thorn flume]

Oh damn sr guys

[forest palm]

it happens

[low lintel]

I see

[errant frigate]

How do I fix exhaustion

[plain saffron]

wait, put in dorm

[smoky whale]

push story until 9-1 for exp farm or event point for new player ?

[mint flint]

yes

[finite crag]

event

[cinder hornet]

I feel those are somehow hard to come by (or maybe not?) should I not do it?

[smoky whale]

untill get all item in exchange or just point accumulation reward ?

[finite crag]

until you get the important stuff in shop

[atomic lagoon]

Iirc there are a bunch of good Cruisers in the shipyard + San Diego and Helena that need those.
On top of the t3 retro blueprints being kinda hard to get

[finite crag]

anything that is a cruiser in the shipyard uses those along with retrofits for cruisers

just ignore saint louis and pr1 as a whole

do pr4

[cinder hornet]

right, well I will keep her as target cos I have not unlocked any other ship just yet (I think besides another PR1) but won't use the blueprints there, thanks

[atomic lagoon]

Tbf you need to do 1 ship of each season anyway for the beginner rewards

[cinder hornet]

but maybe should be a different one instead?

[next bridge]

I require opinions

Should I redo my front ships, if so with who and why

[bold stream]

Hello all. Is it possible to use prinz eugen to tank midgame? I mean I am not even at midgame yet

[finite crag]

for what

[next bridge]

Yes

[finite crag]

this doesnt seem very good

non mlb ships and faction fleet

[bold stream]

How far can she go? Who do I aim to replace her with later?

[finite crag]

anyone basically

any tank

[forest palm]

could probably drag Eugen into 14 if you want

[next bridge]

If you need a tank build roon

[forest palm]

not recommended, but it should be doable

[finite crag]

wrong

even just comparing roon to eugen eugen is bulkier

[next bridge]

Cap sir roon is a tank

[bold stream]

I just got my roon. So just build roon instead?

[finite crag]

tanks fuck all

[next bridge]

That's not what he asked tho

[finite crag]

what he asked what tank he should get and you answered with a shit ship

[atomic lagoon]

Both Roons are sadly a downgrade from portland, iirc

[hollow gust]

??

[bold stream]

I did not know that.

Is eugen better for second fleet tank then?

[hollow gust]

They aren't? Both Roons are substantially better than port . They only reason they aren't used is cause they are so expensive

[bold stream]

I am lost..

[sharp echo]

exercise just for freebie merit right?
is there any way to skip the battle and just go to result

[next bridge]

I agree with goose

[silk helm]

i agree with goose

[bold stream]

So roon is better than eugen and portland?

[finite crag]

thats not what he said

purely tanking eugen is miles ahead

roon is nothing special anymore

when comparing to the baseline blue ship option (portland) shes better but way more expensive so absolutely not worth it

[bold stream]

Better to build eugen then and get her augment?

[mint flint]

eugen is bad

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething roon is less than 100% on eHP chart and eugen has no damage

[mint flint]

she does no damage

[soft raft]

not worth the cost
She's all bulk and nothing else

[rapid grail]

exercise is to

1. get merit for bulins (very good), some ships and some other stuff like cubes.
2. some xp. its minute but it'll all add up

[sharp socket]

build neither and just use portland until w12

[soft raft]

and Roon is basically a more expensive portland

[sharp socket]

at that point farm anchorage if you havent already and use her

[whole crypt]

the only raeson you'd want to tank with anything besides Portland is if you're starting your second fleet and don't have better candidates already

up to ch12 or so

[bold stream]

Anchorage is what tech faction?

[finite crag]

eagle

[sharp socket]

a second good tank can be hard to get for pushing w13 and w14 if you just got to w12, so its good to sit for a while until you get agir/other good tank and/or gear up enough

you can also kinda use portland in w13 but itll be dicey at times

[whole crypt]

there's no real gameplay reason to be pushing 13+ early anyway

[bold stream]

Okay so for new players like me (if like 2 weeks is still new), we try to get fdg then anchorage after?

[sharp socket]

yes

also 2 weeks is very new, dont bother too much with shipyard unless you’re already at like w10/11

[bold stream]

From kms tech to eagle is gonna be stretch

[whole crypt]

unless you're already pushing hard on KMS getting enough USS tech for Anchorage isn't that hard

[next bridge]

Naw that's bad advice research as you progress

[whole crypt]

"research as you progress" is a given, the question is how much resource you devote to it

[sharp socket]

new player coin income is very little

[whole crypt]

you don't go out of your way to use shitty ships and take coins out of your other progression to do research

[next bridge]

Research is so cheap

[bold stream]

Someone said I need to start building second fleet at w9?

[viscid swift]

no it isn't

[sharp socket]

not to mention they got alot of other things to spend on that will directly improve their fleets more than research

[weary gust]

It stifles your progress to develop PR/DR ships when you just start because then you raise bad ships for the cdc exp. It is not good to do PR/DR until you are at a good place to farm (w9+)

[barren tapir]

research? with what coins

[whole crypt]

it's cheap if you choose shitty projects

[viscid swift]

especially compared to a new player's pathetic coin income

[barren tapir]

you take cheap researchs and dont hardcore focus research ships/pr until w12

[whole crypt]

we do advise players to not idle research and shitty projects are fine, if that's what you're trying to say

[next bridge]

My bad terror you right

[whole crypt]

no one's saying don't do research at all until you're up in oil cap

[barren tapir]

even now due to event builds and other stuff like lb/cogawakening i cant always do coin research lul

[cinder hornet]

oh, so she is farmable in the event?

[next bridge]

For some reason waiting till w12 is crazy to me

[barren tapir]

[viscid swift]

yes, shop ship always is

[cinder hornet]

good to know, I guess I don't need to buy her now

[barren tapir]

w12 is like a month playing if ur active...it's not a long time to say "hey, dont make research ships your #1 priority when you're swamped with retrofits and gear upgrades while having 0 coin income"

[mellow cape]

Any team ideas for Napoli exp farming on 12-4?

[keen sable]

How else do you convert oil to bulin

[sharp socket]

w12 is 2-3 months purely due to cmdr level limitations

[viscid swift]

3 sardenega ships that need levels, preferably ones that give good tech

[keen sable]

Pasta vanguard

[whole crypt]

I reiterate, you don't have to hold off research completely until ch12, but you shouldn't spend on research in a way that encumbers your progression otherwise, and that's true even after you reach 12

[barren tapir]

especially when we advise ppl to pull for URs which also costs heavy amounts of coin and could be happening while they begin and progress

[barren tapir]

on average ye, active isnt average tho

also if you join during anniversary boost event it's very fast

[sharp socket]

it took me 2-3 months spending all my oil every day

[cobalt rapids]

it took me 1 month with cmder lv boost(70 pack) to reach w12 aswell

[barren tapir]

i don't have a screenshot to know exactly when i beat 12-1 but it was sometime before tempesta event, so around 1 month in

[keen sable]

Good thing HELP+WA exists

[sharp socket]

did you buy lv70 cmdr pack?

[barren tapir]

i did start during anniversary with 2x exp until cmdr80 though, but regardless it's still not a LONG long time to w12 if you play actively, and you shouldnt focus research until then

i am free to play

[keen sable]

Imagine spending coin when the real shortage is parts

[sharp socket]

unique circumstances then

[bold stream]

Maybe I can do reach w12 now then... If I dont do event

[mellow cape]

So parliament vanguard and unicorn for the back? How does that sound or should I go sardines for the back

[barren tapir]

this was 25 days of playing (w10 or w11 boss somewhere, idk which)

[viscid swift]

don't use Unicorn if you don't need to

3 main fleets that also need levels

[whole crypt]

event first campaign later

[sharp socket]

i mean i completed my anchorage catchup doing basic, techbox and rigging research back when i was new so its not like you dont do any research at all

[cobalt rapids]

only push campaign when u dont need to farm event, u dont skip events over pushing campaign since thats always there
or plan ur farming oil so u know u can still get the required pts while pushing/farming campaign for coins in parallel

[barren tapir]

oh wow i mlbed amagi in 2 weeks i definitely joined at the perfect time to progress quickly i guess

[keen sable]

Whatever you feel like. Usually I'll start looking forward to what to prep for next pr or tech that is needed

[mellow cape]

Sounds gooood

[barren tapir]

but yeah it definitely is a unique situation of active play + past experience (somewhat) + buffed exp. i got to event d1 in 2 weeks also

so ill rescind my estimate to 1.5-2 months, but my point remains that u shouldnt prioritize coin research until u actually have coin income

[bold stream]

Yea, 480 oil for 3 runs on the event is so good since usually my fleet cost 60+ per node..

[cobalt rapids]

i mean but the rewards are also bad relative to higher oilcaps

[vague dew]

As a brand new player i should only pull from the event banner right? And is there 10 pulls here or do I just do singles as I get them?

[keen sable]

You shouldn't prioritize coin research over part research anyway...

[keen sable]

No 10 pull bonus but your time...

[vague dew]

So if I save up enough for 10 I'll have that option tho to do them all at once?

[barren tapir]

coinwise yes, exp wise it's about 11-1 efficiency (very slightly lower i think) so its both good and bad depending on your need

[storm marlin]

Anyone got the puzzle done?

[keen sable]

You can always queue up to 10 builds

[mint flint]

yeah

[barren tapir]

oh wait really? i thought face research is a decent option

[mint flint]

but only 2 will actually progress at once, and the other 8 will just be queued

[cobalt rapids]

gear focus is better longterm than ship focus
well as long as u know what ure doing

[vague dew]

Oh alright.I should only pull from event right?

[barren tapir]

still ranks pretty highly. i do prioritize Q > D > G but thats still a lot of coin researchs so my point remained

[cobalt rapids]

thats a ship focus ranking

[keen sable]

Usually you just use quick finishers also

[barren tapir]

it is the guide for research from the bot, is there an updated one?

[cobalt rapids]

theres no gear focus research prio in guides

[barren tapir]

also it'd just be Q > G > D for gear prio i think?

[mint flint]

for now yes, outside of events do 1 light pull every day

[vague dew]

Thank you

[barren tapir]

now i am not sure what i should be prioritizing with research

[bold stream]

Btw, when will I need a second fleet?

[cobalt rapids]

tldr while catching up
ship focus older seasons with meh gear
ship focus seasons with part coinable ships
gear focus good gear season
while caught up i would always gear focus the newest season

[cobalt rapids]

whenever u got the ships for it
usually by the time u reach oilcap u should look for building a 2nd fleet

[barren tapir]

and for gear focus, is it Q > G > E or Q > E > G? where would B and D place for it?

[cobalt rapids]

UL>Q>E2hp>G4/1.5>E2hb shortest resets

[barren tapir]

thanks!

[vague dew]

Is this event banner good? Or should I save for the next one?

[forest palm]

if you don't care for the collab just save for the next UR

[vague dew]

Thanks

[spring bolt]

all event gold ships are good, among other gold ships

[final kayak]

for mob fleet is it better to have multiple backline healers or will just putting one unicorn suffice?

[wind hazel]

unicorn suffice until very late into campaign

[keen sable]

If said secondary healers are named Aquila and Volga

[final kayak]

They are named shouhou 💀

[wind hazel]

[frank pulsar]

what armour is ex

[barren tapir]

shouhous best use is for cv rld tech

[sweet delta]

Is ex hard easy to auto

[soft dagger]

no. at least not for me

[cobalt rapids]

eldr and laffey are disabled i think

[spring bolt]

seems easy, heavy armor + not moving when tb lands means ijn cv happy moment

[frank pulsar]

i shld prob try that, my bb fleet doesnt seem to cut it

oh wtf they did over half its hp in one strike, my bb needs like 3(?) salvos

[undone plover]

~~That is because BB bad ~~

[frank pulsar]

its the truth

[cobalt rapids]

my cvs deal only 70 bars with helena scan idk, doesnt seem easy

and its impossible to reach 2nd rotation on auto

[undone plover]

Would kirov help
Or is she insta sink?

[weary gust]

Why would kirov help

[cobalt rapids]

i ran ancho helena jda
ill try mirov

[undone plover]

She has a 15% dmg skill for first rotation

[soft dagger]

i ran basic sirius kaza helena bs

[cobalt rapids]

does that make it to 1st rotation ?

[spring bolt]

just add sirius and ting an, and start rolling

[soft dagger]

yes. forget it if youre autoing

[cobalt rapids]

i mean i thought were talking about auto

[soft dagger]

nvm then

[undone plover]

What does ting an do

[weary gust]

I ran ancho/helena/plymouth and that made three BB salvos ... I don't think surviving for two is that difficult.

[cobalt rapids]

on auto hard ?