gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

T5 specifically

There is no hard mode this event

[eternal moth]

Assuming you mean base Yorktown, Enterprise by a mile

[humble tapir]

👍

[junior walrus]

Other than retrofit materials and books is there anything here I’m over looking I can get use out of?

[eternal moth]

Not particularly

[grizzled sundial]

Unfortunately , you can't " grind " oil , you gonna have to upgrade canteen , spend oil in moderation , wait for weekly paycheck from shops and assign large oil commission when you about to sleep .

[ivory pawn]

Can analyze the Combat Data Packs from that screen for protocore to get useful gear prints.

[sharp socket]

when you run out of oil from all sources you just touch grass and wait

[humble tapir]

oki

[junior walrus]

Good gear or just RNG?

[inner delta]

you can pick your gear

[eternal moth]

You can choose the gear patterns

[junior walrus]

Should I just send them all? Any other uses?

[eternal moth]

They're best used to get gear patterns

[dusky cloak]

does this actually matter at all, I assume I should just take the one with lower time

[eternal moth]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[eternal moth]

Personally, I'd reroll that set

[ivory pawn]

There only other use is to speed up researching ships by like a day or two, out of like a month or two. Better to use them to get some nice gear.

[hollow gust]

u should take the purple grant or reset, basic is utter garbage

[ivory pawn]

As you have no coins, if you are fairly new, you might want to take basic just because you can't afford better and it's better to be researching something than nothing.

[hollow gust]

[wind hazel]

not wrong

[ivory pawn]

Once you reach oil caps it's easy to afford it, but until then.

[hollow gust]

basic is so shit its the same as not taking a research, it takes like 1 stage to farm enough coins

[wind hazel]

you're assuming people are at w12 already

[ivory pawn]

One stage at w2? w7?

[sharp socket]

something researching is better than nothing, and at least it contributes to catchup aswell

[hollow gust]

sure take 8 hours and get a purple piece and maaaybe a 1 or 2 print

[wind hazel]

as opposed vs doing nothing?

[sharp socket]

personally id recommend the gear plate researches rigging analysis for people not at w10-12

[hollow gust]

just grind for gold and go back??

[eternal moth]

Blue and purple gear research don't require any money

[wind hazel]

talking to a brick wall

[hollow gust]

lower stages doesnt mean u dont get any god

[wind hazel]

i just find it funny you people always look at the game with an old account perspective and never put yourself in their shoes

[eternal moth]

No, but if it's at chapter 5 or 6 it's going to require 5 or 6 runs to get enough

[hollow gust]

you reccommend taking basic researches and wonder why people take 5-6 months to finish a season

[wind hazel]

do yourself a favour and make a new account, see how much coin is needed on daily basis

[hollow gust]

i literally have newer acconts

[ivory pawn]

Should reach oil cap within 2 months, after which you should almost never touch basic again.

[storm heron]

it's better to use the coins for retrofitting and limit breking early on than for research

[wind hazel]

yes and you can keep up the coin expenses??

[eternal moth]

No, we recommend not worrying about PR until you reach chapter 9

[wind hazel]

wow thank you, now why do you assume they are at chapter 9?

[hollow gust]

i literally finished anchorage on my alt account in a month

[eternal moth]

That's great. You're also FAR from casual, and know exactly how to play and farm

[storm heron]

a month is quite slow, I can do it in 1 day

[wind hazel]

i am not the one with 1.5k coin left, you're barking at the wrong person

that person is also not me, who play the game 24/7

[hollow gust]

wow it takes skills to repeat a chapter?

[sharp socket]

new play coin income pre-oilcap worlds is like nothing

[wind hazel]

yes, and what's more there's event ongoing right now

[bold cove]

Mostly no, i need coin to FS, dev daily for shipyard, mlb ships before sell it, UR banner, always got short in coin

[wind hazel]

do you know what's the coin income from event?
Literaly shit

[sharp socket]

its enough for some gear upgrades and like thats it for one day of oil

[eternal moth]

Knowing intimately how to gear any new ships you get is a huge boon that new players don't know

[wind hazel]

thank you for input, i hope they can learn from your experience

JuSt FaRm & rEpEaT

[hollow gust]

[zenith heron]

[viscid swift]

what on earth

[storm heron]

for new player with low oil income just take rigging analysis and if not then one of the non-coin research, like comission or gear scrapping or the free ones

[viscid swift]

since no one has asked, where are you in the main campaign right now

[spring bolt]

looking at that guy's cap, he would have been doing something very wrong with that oil/coin cap if he is not ch 9 yet
also event t5 is here, coin ratio is not good but not shit either
but as someone with a 5 days old account, i would just pick the C without hesitation

[whole crypt]

T5 is fine if you're not at ch9+, no other place to grind now for cap anyway

[sweet delta]

They have like 12 level 100 ships

[wind hazel]

news flash: there are casual players in Azur Lane

[spring bolt]

t5 is better than 9-1 in any aspect btw...

[whole crypt]

where to go for CN info nowadays besides nga

[sharp socket]

is CL AA bad tech

[viscid swift]

yes

all AA, ASW, and HP tech is bad

[whole crypt]

no tech is bad but some are more useless

[sharp socket]

sakawa goes into the bin then

[spring bolt]

bilibili blog, just follow the major guide makers on this list @whole crypt

[whole crypt]

but sakawa is a good ship wot

[hollow gust]

what happen to nga?

[sharp socket]

is she better than rainbows

and can be used in w15

or has use in one specific meta

[storm heron]

or can make farming w13 or w14 or w15 easier

or literally anything relevant

[whole crypt]

well it's mostly jinghao and xuanxu, doesn't jinghao still post on nga?

[wind hazel]

none that i know of

[sharp socket]

i have fleets that already work for w13 and 14

[sweet delta]

Is 5467 a good player

[stark quiver]

i mean, +tech is better than no +tech

[viscid swift]

not that I see her having any relevant use but I would still keep her a for collection and b what's it gonna cost to keep her, just -1 dock space

[spring bolt]

drama, but mainly caused by other game players, major AL guide makers got attacked for no reason and nga mods did nothing/reacted slow

[sharp socket]

the -1 dock space adds up when i have 100+ ships that i keep just cause i can, and about 10-20 are not good tech

[opaque gate]

is dido herself counted from the "2stacks" of her skill? like, is she considered as 1 stack alr?

[whole crypt]

I mean if you're just keeping meta you can probably just forget about tech anyway not a serious concern
or you know, buy more dock space

[sharp socket]

the less gems i spend on dockspace the more i can spend on skins my money is not infinite you know

[opaque gate]

ok so basically, she only needs 1 more hms ship, or queen elizabeth herself

[viscid swift]

I mean more than 1/3 of my dock over 600 has no value from that persepctive and I still keep them

[hollow gust]

then dont roll for collab ships, they take space and provide no benefits

[whole crypt]

we strictly do not recommend buying skins on free gems but you do you I guess

[sharp socket]

where did i say i spend my free gems on skins

[eternal moth]

He just said he's not F2P

[whole crypt]

you can keep up with dock space on free gems though

[storm heron]

celerio do u just hate sakawa

[whole crypt]

there are less ships added each year than you can buy space with handouts

[slate siren]

any advice on what cats/ perks to look out for?

[stark quiver]

do /cats in #bot-spam

[spring bolt]

these 6 guys are more active nowadays
top to bottom
general info and eval
datamining and math
pvp
datamining and math, mainly CN dps/ehp chart
low cost farming and general info
fleet building and eval

[sharp socket]

i lost track of where my paid gems spending merge with my free gems but i think i only spent 500 of free gems on not dockspace

[barren tapir]

takes some time to catch up tho i think

[whole crypt]

thanks

[barren tapir]

still i'd never scrap an event ship unless i had no choice...scrap someone easy to reobtain if you have to

[viscid swift]

not that my experience is modern but I actively pursued collection from day 1 pretty much and managed to keep up all through it

[whole crypt]

you also don't get all 700-ish unique ships in a blink so there's time to fill space up as long as you actually buy space

[viscid swift]

and I do mean persued, I bought all the core data shop ships before any gear and farmed all map drop ships in MC before moving on to the next chapter

[whole crypt]

considering he's also good with ch13/14 he'd already have most of the permanently available gems, so unless he's beend spending them on places he shouldn't have space shouldn't be a real issue

[barren tapir]

yeah true but i'm already at around 200/300 so im mildly concerned for 6 months from now tbh. of course, gem comms will save me as long as i get relatively lucky

[sharp socket]

space is not an issue currently but i prefer to optimise alot more when it comes to my money

[whole crypt]

you can scrap ships when you're actually out of space

[wind hazel]

this is one of the moment where you get punished for being lucky and getting more new ships

[viscid swift]

okay I'm confused, you don't need extra space and yet you want to scrap ships for what exactly then

[whole crypt]

pre-scrapping ships is not optimizing

[wind hazel]

because sakawa isn't bringing anything beneficial to his account

[stark quiver]

if u wnna scrap her then do it really,
people just advise you to not

[barren tapir]

if push comes to shove i dont mind scrapping an unbuilt common i can reobtain at a future date tho ofc. but im happy ive yet to ever scrap a single ship that's not a dupe and i hope i can keep it that way haha

[viscid swift]

what's the oppurtunity cost of holding onto her on the off chance she does become relevant

[sharp socket]

i want extra space but i do not need it right now, though i dont see it as a bad idea to do it before it becomes an issue

[storm heron]

sakawa augment

[viscid swift]

I didn't expect Jintsuu META to be relevant at all and here we are with that thoroughly shattered

[barren tapir]

why not keep her until you need the space tho

[whole crypt]

but Jintsuu META doesn't cost space

[stark quiver]

well metas also cant be burned

[heady siren]

Can I know which To love ru song is playing at my home screen?

[viscid swift]

also who knew Eldridge would become so relevant

[barren tapir]

with augments being a thing i would probably chance on keeping any "base decent" ship on the off chance they get a mindblowingly op augment someday

[viscid swift]

I'm cherrypicking a bit but only to make a point

[sharp socket]

in that case ill just keep her until i dip below 80 free space and cant do anything else to reduce space

[storm heron]

sakawa retrofit might be useful in ch16

[spark ridge]

whats she good for?

[viscid swift]

keeping the vanguard alive

[sweet delta]

Everything

[stark quiver]

needs her retrofit item btw

[whole crypt]

besides DPS

[junior walrus]

What should I buy and for who?

[sweet delta]

III

[whole crypt]

doesn't look like you can buy anything

[viscid swift]

start getting the PR3 gear selector prints for Champagne guns

[junior walrus]

Also if it’s not too much to ask for a reasoning as the gearinf is something I haven’t looked into too much

[sweet delta]

Gold III has the best AP BB gun

[spark ridge]

should i get eldridge then, from merit shop

[viscid swift]

Champagne guns are one of the best BB guns for medium and heavy armor bossing

I still use them regularly even 4 years on

[stark quiver]

do you have her retrofit item?

[junior walrus]

I’m assuming PR3 is the one with 3 barrels?

[spark ridge]

ah nop, guess not then

[viscid swift]

no

[sweet delta]

/wiki 406mm mle

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)

[whole crypt]

the exchange those to prints for ^ this gun in depot

[humble tapir]

whats the purpose of the bar next to a carriers icon when it gets hit?

[sweet delta]

/detection

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553

For more information, consult the wiki

[junior walrus]

Just get the max amount I can afford?

[ivory pawn]

If said amount is at least 10 5, even better.

[whole crypt]

monthly has a limit of 15 20 and you'll need 25 to make a gun so just get it when you can

[junior walrus]

I’ll just save till I can buy 25

Oh wait nvm

[spark ridge]

u cant buy 25 at a time, bc in one month u can only buy 20

[keen sable]

impossible

[junior walrus]

I’m sorry please don’t beat me

[keen sable]

you can save the selector though

[junior walrus]

I got all 20 I could get

[barren tapir]

is it better to buy from the prototype shop or gear lab it

[viscid swift]

I would still say protocore it

the gear lab option isn't exactly cheap and players are actively allergic to OpSi

[stark quiver]

will albion rerun

[viscid swift]

no

[barren tapir]

isn't albion perm

[stark quiver]

oh shit she is

[junior walrus]

I’m not touching core pieces to save for UR bulin, but the other resource in Proto shops seems some what frequent to gt

[viscid swift]

not exactly

[whole crypt]

actually by similar token I recommend crafting trash cans from PR2 prints than trying to craft rainbow AA from scratch

[barren tapir]

whats the priority for protocore again? where would the tenrai prints rank

[viscid swift]

you get some frontloaded but it falls off a cliff after a while until you get to late game

[whole crypt]

trashcan is also cheaper than normal research gear

[viscid swift]

2-3 Champagne Guns > Tenrai > 457>= Plymouth gun pretty much

[barren tapir]

ty

[sharp socket]

when is hinden gun expected to go into protocore

[sweet delta]

Just start during a new server event and you can get tenrai in 2 weeks

[viscid swift]

late January next year

[stark quiver]

same time as tenrai?

[mossy kiln]

do flagships get more affection?

[viscid swift]

and Plymouth gun yep

[stark quiver]

just gotta pray they dont all take ords

big shopping list no money

[sharp socket]

hinden gun is CA gun right, would that one take priority over drake gun or no

[stark quiver]

drake gun slightly better at heavy
hinden gun slightly better at med

from what ive heard

[sharp socket]

i mean if i ever get hinden she will have no gear farming needed which is great but i dont think ill get hinden anytime soon

[stark quiver]

am i bricked to 4 UR designs a month + rng

[sharp socket]

actually ill finish coining and catchuping drake before then so ill just get both guns even if they sit uselessly in my depot

wait is pr7 gear prints also going into protocore in jan?

[viscid swift]

the gold gear yes

la-9 will be another year off still

[sharp socket]

ill have more things to consider buying then alr ty

[spark ridge]

my shinano currently has hellcat, sb2c helldiver, skypirate as her planes. is it wroth crafting the flapjack to improve her?

[stark quiver]

flapjacks gud

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[stark quiver]

tho follow this since flapjacks take ords

[zinc cave]

Flapjacks are amazing, but you don't have to rush them, especially due to their crafting cost

[spark ridge]

yeh, but i wasnt sure if like upgrading a figheter slot is priority

or maybe i should be keeping the gold stuff for my other ships lmao

except i prefer "putting all my eggs in 1 basket", more fun to focus upgrade 1 ship than spread it all out everywhere

[polar venture]

Is musashi's guardianship a good skill to level?

[spark ridge]

should i even bother looking at the UR gear yet, i cant do strongholds in opsi, and i can barely do 6's

[zinc cave]

Yes, it's one of the best crossfleet barrages in the game

[barren tapir]

stronghold easier than abyssals tbh as long as you don't mind bruteforcing them by throwing fleet at it over n over til it dies

[spark ridge]

dont they reset when u leave? and if u lose, u gotta fix up ur morale b4 re fighting or something right?

[forest jasper]

stronghold can be brute force

as long you have the patience

[barren tapir]

strongholds you can leave whenever you want

[spark ridge]

oh and then come back?

[zinc cave]

The AP cost is a one time fee

[barren tapir]

altho they dont drop UR prints besides rng from cat nodes

[zinc cave]

You can go in and out as you please

[rare wyvern]

How isn't this the correct way to deal with it

[spark ridge]

gotta brute force the center boss too :/

[barren tapir]

well yeah but a bit different being a newbie and repairing after every battle and a vet who 1fleet auto the entire thing

[barren tapir]

and for the morale thing, low resolve 1 is manageable to kill a mob in there, otherwise just pop out go to a secured zone for 5 ap and kill something there

if a ship dies then go to port and repair there, you can save some coins by only clicking on the toll of war ship to repair it specifically and use repair boxes on the rest

[spark ridge]

ive just been going to data zone for 0ap

[barren tapir]

that works if you have one active

[noble osprey]

Guys does anyone know if the to love ru event ships are actually strong or just collectibles?

[barren tapir]

strong by gold standards, collectible by UR standards. depends on your perspective

[stark quiver]

what pool is this event banner

[viscid swift]

heavy

[stark quiver]

bruh

[noble osprey]

Would they be better than anyone in my main fleet tho? Im not sure if i should invest into pulling and leveling them in this event

[calm panther]

Are the TLR ships any good from first glance?

[barren tapir]

ngl it's funny to me how 2 of them are basically comparable to URs albeit the low end URs according to that prelim CN anyway

[calm panther]

Drake level dps and eugen level bulk seems to be very good?

[strange sphinx]

how good is Yami bb in boss fleet?

[spark ridge]

using nj shinano and enterprise, who should go in vangaurd? nj bc tankier, or shinano for her barrage to hit more center?

[barren tapir]

u mean flag? NJ

[spark ridge]

yeh mb

[soft raft]

Shinano's Butterfly barrage is basically a wet fart lol

[barren tapir]

a pretty fart

[barren tapir]

lala >> portland

yami would be a good off-flag bb if you needed one i guess

nana good torp focus dd

momo fleet support(?) but helena would be much better im sure

[strange sphinx]

nana is torp foucs? heh

what about Haruna and Yui? just collection really?

[barren tapir]

idk about them but elites are usually pretty mediocre to bad

[soft raft]

dont get your hopes up in the first place
even the ones that had something good like Bellona fell off pretty hard (In her case due to there being more acessible Air Raid Assistance ships like Kazagumo and Potter)

[barren tapir]

oh yeah momo can replace portland too. 96% ehp but has more damage and much more utility (since portland has...almost 0). fleetwide dmg buff, ramping individual ship buffs the longer the battle goes (+1 ship affected every 10s, buff procs every 20s) with minor healing as well

i wonder if momos summons can tank hits

[sonic steeple]

what is a SP event stage? it says remaining attempts?

[strange sphinx]

ic, man nana is only one I didn't get

[barren tapir]

tbh momo and lala both have pretty good utility that will help their longevity a bit (as much as golds can at least)

nana is pure dps but her dps is apparently relatively high

yami also has some minor support but it doesn't stack with anything else and is on the weaker side (20% slow or 5% armor break only)

[stark quiver]

sp stage is a bonus event stage basically
u can do it once per day and gives 800 event currency per day

[elfin hollow]

Collab ships good?

[barren tapir]

read up

[elfin hollow]

Purple ones?

[barren tapir]

not sure but unlikely to be of note

[raven marsh]

what's a poi

[soft raft]

Yuudachi Retrofit
Poi is a nickname carryover from her Kantai Collection version

[raven marsh]

ahh okay

[hollow gust]

Cn puts everything to Drake dps

[barren tapir]

i am wondering how much they go up when paired, if any

seeing as they're all rather good ships pairing them shouldnt be a problem either

[dawn ledge]

Why is it 3h and the other 1h

[barren tapir]

different ships?

each ship has her own build time

[dawn ledge]

The 3h is a high rarity?

[viscid swift]

Not necessarily

[barren tapir]

time is usually but not always semi correlated to irl ship displacement volume

[viscid swift]

Build timer roughly correlates to the displacement of a ship

[barren tapir]

unless you know the specific time of a ship you want there's no point in checking the times or making guesses

[viscid swift]

I say roughly because even one small look will bring up tons of exceptions

And collab ships go by birthday or something similar

[dawn ledge]

Ok thx

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building#List_of_Ships_by_Construction_Time

[stark quiver]

i have only 1 gold ap box in opsi and its almost end of month, did i do somethint wrong

[barren tapir]

i ran into a very bad string of c1 and down to 2 gold boxes could just be rng i guess?

[spark ridge]

atago or yukikaze in the tank slot? (yeah ik both arent great choices lmao)

[atomic abyss]

Ykk is a better tank

[zinc cave]

Both work, I will say you shouldnt use Yukikaze against bosses

Or less recommended against bosses

[spark ridge]

yeah shes gonna get replaced by helena once shes actually levelled lmao

[sleek spade]

Isnt that really good?

[barren tapir]

assuming the eval holds up, yes

[sleek spade]

Isnt that kinda sus

[zinc cave]

Helena isn't much of a tank?

[atomic abyss]

Would be pretty normal for collab

[barren tapir]

helena is the opposite of a tank

[barren tapir]

normal for 2 of the golds to be comparable to (lower end) UR?

[atomic abyss]

looks at rikka and ryza

[zinc cave]

Time is a cruel mistress

[atomic abyss]

Yeah I'd say pretty normal since pre-evals overestimate usually

Lala is absolutely cracked, how cracked is another story

Yami I'm not fully convinced

[barren tapir]

yami looks like good off flag sheller but not super remarkable good stats, self fp/acc, 155% mgm, targeted barrage. but the rng factor probably lets her down some

[zinc cave]

RNG Skills

[sweet delta]

yami barrage is meh for bossing because it's spread

[barren tapir]

then again the mods of her barrage arent super skewed so selecting the wrong one on a boss with mobs is probably not the biggest deal

[barren tapir]

i see i havent seen the pattern

[sharp delta]

hey I just noticed I can end my classes instantly. does it reset over time or does it cost gems or what is that and how does it work?

[atomic abyss]

Limited time event for the next 2 weeks
10x a day you can make it instant

[sharp delta]

okay so 10x a day and it only lasts for 2 weeks?

[atomic abyss]

Till the next maint in other words yes

I think it's 2 weeks at least

[sharp delta]

maint?

[sharp socket]

maintenance

[atomic abyss]

Oh sorry, it's 3 weeks

Available for a limited-time between 11/21 – 12/11, 11:59 P.M. (UTC-7)
Rapid Training Campaign (During the campaign, log in to obtain Skill Books and 20 Wisdom Cubes. Each day during the campaign, you will be able to finish 10 classes immediately when using Skill Books in the Tactical Class.)

[sharp delta]

it took 5x things to get through level 9 x.x

if I let it go through its time I take it I get more exp as a bonus?

[atomic abyss]

No

[sharp socket]

nope

its just a free speedup 10x a day

[sharp delta]

well I guess I will level up some ships skills lol

I only have 800+ gold books

thank you for the help

[bold cove]

Thats save alot, great event

[warm trail]

need help for fleet 1 and fleet 2, any of these i can make do?

[wintry condor]

just got a new phone and anyone know how to change google play login?

it only gives yostar, twitter and facebook

[soft raft]

Google play saves are not a thing for this game
So uhhhh
Hope you binded your account to Yostar

Or at least have your previous phone on hand to bind it if you didnt

[wintry condor]

unless im stupid and those are the only options regardless

[wintry condor]

ooo alright im pretty sure I did, so I just sign in with yostar and use the email?

[soft raft]

Yeah

[wintry condor]

thxx

[shell willow]

you dont even need to sign in, you just get an email with a code to the address you used for registering the yostar acc

[strange sphinx]

collab rn don't have hard mode?

[eternal basalt]

Never had

[strange sphinx]

so worth it to farm?

tnx

[elfin hollow]

just rq are any of the new units good?

[quartz jungle]

What is the commerative medal badge thing?

[primal silo]

The gold ones are pretty good, that's what the pins say

[warm trail]

how to get more gold

[elfin hollow]

like meta good or just sub good

[sweet delta]

the pins say that for every single event

[strange sphinx]

grind

[sweet delta]

they're not beating the average rainbow ship. But Lala has a unique (to vanguard for now) gimmick

[elfin hollow]

hmmmmmmmmm

i think im just gonna save

[tropic tusk]

can collab story be read after the collab?

[burnt skiff]

Is there a temperature check on if there are any crazy good ships in the new collab yet?

[leaden garden]

Is this okay for hindenburg

[sweet delta]

you probably shouldn't be using hindenburg if that's all you have

[leaden garden]

Oh alright

[eternal basalt]

If you clear it now, yes. Otherwise, no

[tropic tusk]

ok thx

[rose cosmos]

There is no hard node in event?

[eternal basalt]

Like all SP event

[barren tapir]

great but not UR

[burnt skiff]

okey thank you

[narrow ibex]

who should I research if I want a mob fleet off tank, plymouth or hindenburg

[primal silo]

55K event points as usual?

[dense delta]

hello is this where i can ask for some help in building a team?

[fallow sedge]

What's Helena retro used for?

[cobalt rapids]

big pp dmg ( for your other ships )

[dense delta]

This what I mostly have would appreciate some recommendation

[cobalt rapids]

can you limit break musashi once or twice

[real jasper]

Hello. Can anyone tell me the fastest way to have 3 CV in my team? I want to do some hard mode but cant meet the requirement.

[dense delta]

i cant i just gotten her

[cobalt rapids]

sara and ark are good map drops
enterprise is rookies and medal

[dusk maple]

is the mini game bugged?

[dense delta]

so far im kinda stuck on the event map 3 for now

[real jasper]

what is rookies btw

[primal silo]

newcomer mission

on the upper left of lobby iirc

[warm trail]

no

[real jasper]

Ah thank you very much, I need to farm the other 2 right?

[primal silo]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

hood unicorn enterprise - eugen helena laffey

[warm trail]

my laffey and unicorn already mlb, should i retire the dupes?

[dense delta]

is this for a team?

[cobalt rapids]

can be used for retrofit aswell

[warm trail]

wait, how?

[dense delta]

man i just return to the game is tht supposed to be something new?

[cobalt rapids]

last node requires a dupe or bulin
its fine to retire because purple bulins are plenty tho

[dense delta]

My team I use

[frank pulsar]

modernisation nodes on all retrofit require a copy of the ship or a bulin

[coarse heron]

on some ships you're better off just using a Bulin since acquiring a dupe is

[warm trail]

ah this last one

[frank pulsar]

your fleets need rework

[dense delta]

yeah i just return to the game would appreciate some help

[frank pulsar]

that fleet with hood in it is also completely unusable

[frank pulsar]

make thread post dock

[warm trail]

takes too long to retrofit

[frank pulsar]

sort by vanguard and main fleet

[dense delta]

how to i make a thread and post dock?

[frank pulsar]

retrofits are annoying in that early game is when you need to do them the most, but early game is also when it takes the longest

[sweet delta]

4 oil T4
Every and Kidd, bring your tenrais and +13 TB if you need help
musashi alsace soyuz kron unzen shimak

[warm trail]

[coarse heron]

He's a madman, a madman

[shell willow]

does z20 have anything special?

[strange sphinx]

tsk, too slow

[coarse heron]

+15% dmg with AP but that's it

+25% if you're a madman and level up the skill on a 0LB ship

[primal silo]

wait
those are 0LB ships for max oil efficiency?

[coarse heron]

Yeah

[barren tapir]

im impressed

[sweet delta]

cassin works too

[barren tapir]

me (well i went to 6 only)

i think z20 and z21 are the best dps 0lb gray dds

but cassin and downes have better durability (zombie skill) and much superior AA if it is a concern

[cobalt rapids]

z20 coz of mog gun

[atomic lagoon]

Part 1 is the reward for buying skins

[fallow sedge]

Any faster way to fate sim a dr ship

[bold cove]

Dumb all coin in it

[fallow sedge]

Just realized 2m+ needed If only using coins lol

[atomic lagoon]

It's still in the Event list but stuff like, a promise ring when you buy 6 rerun skins in total

[wary timber]

Should I use Tenrais on Amagi amd Shinano

[bold cove]

You asked for fasted way, just kidding, convert all DR print to the ships youre dev, or just 10k gold per day

[lofty zodiac]

I start Harbin cdc farm, is both of the DD worth 125?

[cobalt rapids]

neither because neither is retro-ed

[lofty zodiac]

The retro is planned if i bring them to 125 of course

[cobalt rapids]

125 ships u use in hard content instead of 125 random ones

ddg are good but no point till u need one

[lofty zodiac]

What are the most usefull of those 2 for hard mode one have a défensive skill the other a debuff one

[lofty zodiac]

I don't plan on retro same until i need them but i have to xp DE for harbin so i can take advantage of this farm

[cobalt rapids]

ty is better in full fleets unless changchun is buffing good NP/DE ships

[lofty zodiac]

O right i forgot about the faction restriction...

TY it is since my NP option is as poor as my DE one lol

[elfin hollow]

How speed up building relationship (and how tf it works)

[humble tapir]

secretary ship, battling and dorm i think

[dusk maple]

set her up as your leftmost secretary for passive affection points. she only gains affection from battles that cost oil, so just use her in combat, opsi/exercise doesn't count. put her in dorm for morale.

[gilded carbon]

appearantly, i got account lvl 100 yesterday. Does it give or do something of note?

[tropic tusk]

is there a way to filter unEnhance ships/ not fully enchance ship?

[atomic lagoon]

Max Level for the Canteen and Merchant + the last stage of the Tactical Training

[rare wyvern]

"Enhancable" is a filter

[tropic tusk]

oh thankyou

[gilded carbon]

ok, thanks ^^

[pale wing]

Guys, how's Baltimore Muse in terms of Firepower?

[atomic abyss]

Stat alone? Probably ok
Any actual damage? Pitiful

[pale wing]

I see..

[atomic abyss]

Like unironically... Just use Lala

[pale wing]

I don't have her

[atomic abyss]

Consider Ibuki from PR1 then
Her gun damage isn't the greatest, but her torps make up for that

I would say Drake, but Lala seems to be pretty close...

[reef flume]

Lala is good?

[rain bobcat]

do we have pre calc up

[atomic abyss]

CN prevals put her as Eugen/Nep bulk with Drake DPS

[rain bobcat]

yami looks pretty much contention for best ssr BB

[atomic abyss]

The same CN also says Yami is Daisen/Owari tier
Which would indeed put her on par with the best SSR BBs

Ofc please take all of this with a spoonful of salt

[reef flume]

Interesting

[rain bobcat]

I mean yeah

175% eff with AP barrage that has dmg buff is kinda crazy

[reef flume]

Hopefully I can get them these three weeks of collab without having to waste all my cubes. Ima pray RNGesus

[atomic abyss]

Esp for Yami
They were pretty glowing reviews for Momo too, but I also find them sus

The lala drake comparisons do seem accurate tho, depressing as it is

[eternal basalt]

2 weeks

[coarse heron]

just do 3 pulls a day, then on last day rip and tear until it's done

[reef flume]

Gotcha

[shell willow]

depressing for drake or for lala?

[coarse heron]

why not both

[random rain]

hello. do you need to unlock all the smaller medals to unlock the "commemorative medal" that gives 1 cube in the missions tab? the 70k currency one seems a bit too excessive for me :((

[coarse heron]

poor Drek, powercrept by collab SSRs

[shell willow]

i see, i didnt know if she was reviewed to be worse or better than drake

[frank pulsar]

drek been powercrept even by regular ssr long ago
collab ship strength has also been increasing with the newer ones

[atomic abyss]

If I had to spitball
Probably just worse than drake at worst

I mean it was in line with my expectations

[rain bobcat]

tbf I only use drake because her skin is

[atomic abyss]

Rikka and Ryza are pretty strong as far as CLs go...

[atomic abyss]

Wasn't it 48k
Pretty sure you need all tho yes

[inner delta]

why is people so focused on "oh no drake is powercrept" like bruh, this ship was released yearsssssss ago, you literally can't just release ship without newer improvement in a gacha game because then literally why pull if old ship better

it's normal and not just some huge thing

[atomic abyss]

It's the same issue with SR BBs at this point

[inner delta]

yeah like every update it's like "oh no drake dead, oh no marco dead" like ...

it's literally just the fundamental of how gacha game works

make new shit better so people pull for new shit

[atomic abyss]

Unless your name is enterprise

Personally, I am most interested to see how Haruna competes with....Hood

[gusty olive]

[atomic abyss]

Yami herself also seems to be more mob oriented due to the barrage pattern (GL Izumo)

@inner delta any idea how far out is 80 units from the backline?

It's fairly far isn't it

[inner delta]

idk about unit range

but 80 seems far

[coarse heron]

Bismarck's CL aux gun range is 90, for a reference

[inner delta]

and that shit is far

[atomic abyss]

Oh

[crimson glacier]

isnt 90 just on the line of not being that useful

[atomic abyss]

That means Haruna's 100% barrage proc is easier to activate than Nelson or Wash lmaooooo

[inner delta]

for bb aux it's pretty decent

[atomic abyss]

I think Haruna might be competitive with the US Big 7 retros

[coarse heron]

[atomic abyss]

Not a high bar, but that's fucking hilarious

[crimson glacier]

doesnt sound likely

[atomic abyss]

Then again the US Big 7 were meant to be for a BB fleet...

[south sequoia]

the new eva aux is a good upgrade for ca/cb ehp right?

[atomic abyss]

I mean Haruna is definitely the best purple BC now lol
Maybe purple BBs even

As for Momo

Her EN skill description seems to be missing some details

With her augment she can actually summon 2 plants instead of just 1

[crimson glacier]

is that useful

[atomic abyss]

Well, it depends on how you quantify it I suppose

The plants can literally take damage for you so

[crimson glacier]

well how much hp they have, can they evade, do enemies actually target them

[atomic abyss]

They use a part of Momo's own stats iirc

[amber mist]

Do I mlb guam or start on alsace

[cobalt rapids]

finish shinano

then wait for december

[amber mist]

But shinano is in standard

[cobalt rapids]

dont start investing bulins into any UR unless u can mlb em directly

[atomic abyss]

Guam isn't high prio
And frankly she already perform as an AA carry at 2LB anyways

[cobalt rapids]

guam is not ur highest prio rn and u cannot afford to mlb alsace so either shinano or wait

[amber mist]

Okie

[frozen inlet]

is it better to farm 9-4 or t5 for exp and coin?

[atomic abyss]

T5 cos you want to clear the important stuff in the event shop

[warm condor]

Do you pull for these collab units or skip?

[atomic abyss]

Well

[barren tapir]

huh really? there's a pretty big raw stat/efficiency difference, is her barrage that good

[atomic abyss]

They're probably never coming back again, but at the same time they're not URs

[frozen inlet]

is it worth using high-eff plan for it?

[warm condor]

Right. So for collection purposes YES

[atomic abyss]

You use high eff if you short of time

[barren tapir]

i think she's on the better side for a purple but putting her on the level of big seven retros is a bit far imo

[pearl quarry]

Is the event battle ship good? I have 45 cube

[atomic abyss]

Save for UR event next month then

Especially if you're not interested in the collab

[pearl quarry]

Not really

[elfin hollow]

Thanks

[pearl quarry]

I recently got Musashi I don't think I really need those Sr

[barren tapir]

skip unless interested, theyre great but theyre not URs

then again if lala is comparable to drake does that count as UR

[atomic abyss]

No cos you can just get drake

[coarse heron]

doesn't that make every BB better than Warkai a UR then

[pearl quarry]

Real

[sharp socket]

how many portlands is brest ehp

[harsh yacht]

is it ever worth retiring elite ships for medals for gold bulin?

[atomic abyss]

If they're dupes, maybe
But I'd rather see next month medal shop

[harsh yacht]

whats happening next month?

[atomic abyss]

Maybe there's medal shop ships that you need to get?

[atomic lagoon]

Uh, 1.4 Portlands? I think

[harsh yacht]

ahh yes thank you

[sharp socket]

thats a good amount of portlands, ty

VH is grilled cheese aux?

[pliant acorn]

Is my fleet good on w15?. And can i have guide/tips on this stage

[crimson glacier]

no sandy so bad by default

[sharp socket]

swap your mob and boss BB, musashi is best for mobbing

[crimson glacier]

and mob probaly wants second healer over yk2

[crystal flume]

is there a need to buy multiple times of this other than limit break?

[coarse heron]

isn't support fleet also affected by the ship's level quite a bit?

[crystal flume]

thank you

[pliant acorn]

Ohh i see. Thanks

[sharp socket]

also your boss looks like itll explode, heavy armor frontline not very good in w15 and also get sandy in there

ah wait only agir is heavy armor in there, consider someone else like ancho/brest

[pliant acorn]

I have sandy and guam. Should i use them?

[coarse heron]

Sandy makes dealing with planes a lot easier in W15, imo

because you're firing your AA guns so much in W15 you're pretty much constantly proccing her +50% AA for entire fleet skill

[pliant acorn]

Here's my ships. Shoud i use 2 Bb baclisn or 2 cvs for anti air

[crimson glacier]

only 1 BB per fleet in w15

[coarse heron]

generally you use 1 UR BB and then 2 CVs for each fleet

[pliant acorn]

Last question. How many blue pancake planes do i need in w15?

[forest jasper]

no Shimanto?

[pliant acorn]

This one

[coarse heron]

all of your fighters should be Flapjacks

[glad socket]

So does anyone know the solution to this

[coarse heron]

you can go diagonally

[pliant acorn]

Yeahh TwT. Is she really that needed n w15?

[glad socket]

I tried that but it don’t work

[coarse heron]

try again

[crystal flume]

it start from top and it should end on bottom box

[forest jasper]

she and Sandy will make ur life way easier

[coarse heron]

bro you skipped one

[pliant acorn]

My bad. Am dum dum

[cobalt rapids]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[unkempt mortar]

are the gear from help request any good

[cobalt rapids]

what help request

[rare wyvern]

Puzzle event

[cobalt rapids]

some are good

[boreal wagon]

the game calls the missions from help me miss lala requests, aka they are aksing if the event gear is any good

one day my wifi will not suck

[cobalt rapids]

the 2 hp auxes good for 2nd hp aux
the 28 eva one is a kicks upgrade
the 17fp one is one of the better dd fp aux

[rare wyvern]

A good area advice for farming gold components in Opsi ?

Need me electrical boards

[cobalt rapids]

clear anything with a shiny icon above

[rare wyvern]

Like every hidden area ?

[cobalt rapids]

every arbiter every abysall everyh stronghold every hidden every explorable every daily
and if ure done with all u can go spam ur ap in a c3 or c5 secured zone

[rare wyvern]

Fair

[vivid bear]

Who from collab ship worth to pull?

[crimson glacier]

good question

[cobalt rapids]

all if ure collecting
the one u like
none if ure just playing for meta

[ocean fog]

well, collab is never gonna be the top meta so, yeah

[cobalt rapids]

homura is meta for subs minmaxing

[real jasper]

How many level my ships need to clear the event guys? I just start the game for 4 days and I have no idea what's ahead

[ocean fog]

if you want to full clear, all lv120+

[cobalt rapids]

T5 is lv77 so about that much

[ocean fog]

this include challenge, sp and ex

[real jasper]

Ty, I just want to farm the shop so I should aim for the last node. So lv70-80 is ok right?

[cobalt rapids]

are there any augs locked behind challenge stages?

[ocean fog]

yeah, pretty much

[ocean fog]

i dont think so

only SP

[cobalt rapids]

theres an aug locked behind sp ?

[ocean fog]

momo aug

[cobalt rapids]

then try to push for lv120 and clear sp

[fiery raptor]

independent of interaction with the backline, which CB does the most damage? If a top 3 could be given who would they be and possibly in which order?

[ocean fog]

i clear sp with average lv100 lmao

[cobalt rapids]

even better

[forest jasper]

this event SP is only lvl 100

[tame jungle]

Sp is low level this time around

[cobalt rapids]

CBs arent the highest dmging vanguards if thats what ure asking
as for top 3 CB dmg dealer then its kron azuma guam/brest

[fiery raptor]

i presume the best damage dealers are hindo with guns and unzen with torps?

[spring bolt]

my en account is 6 days old and i started farming t5 yesterday with a fleet average at about lv75
but i was like doing everything correctly so normal player might need more time to strengthen the fleet

[cobalt rapids]

yes but depends on fight and armors ofc
can check here for general ratings by armor
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[ocean fog]

me with lv110+ fleet but haven't gone past 6-4

slacc EXTRA

[fiery raptor]

yeah, starting a new account as an oldhead is like being isekai'd into the past or a fantasy setting with a top ranking in sandhurst/annapolis military education.

[ocean fog]

basically regression

[spring bolt]

i would expect real new players needing 3x to 5x time to start farming t5 without reading guides. 2x to 3x if they follow the correct guides. probably

[fiery raptor]

3x sounds about right, they'd understand the right ships, not so much gear fits and skills interactions

also probably slower on the to-do-list to limit break their ships quickly even if just the purples

[spring bolt]

but anyway, my goal to verify how hard/easy to one fleet reaching ch 12 with musa, and what happens if i change musa to tirpitz

[fiery raptor]

even now limit breaking 6 blue/purple ships in 6 days sounds really fast to me lmao. If I was doing my own re:zero speedrun I doubt I could do that.

[unique lantern]

is the exp rate per morale and oil this event even worth farming ships on? or do i just run 2 or 3 of my fleets as 1:1 for points and do 12-4 leveling again?

[fiery raptor]

highest event level should be reasonable gains. I'd only resort to go to 12-4 if short on coins during event duration.

i managed to fully research hindo and kearsearge in just event exp in like 3 events?

[sharp socket]

i farm it with 11 ships spread over 3 fleets, to get more event points

[spring bolt]

t5 oil exp ratio is almost same to 11-1, which means second highest in the game
exp morale ratio is not high but that's not a big issue imo, just put your fleet in dorm

[unique lantern]

previous events had hard modes tho and gave decent exp, iirc normal mode didnt have an oil cap? and leveling my mlb 100-120 ships on that sounds awful

[sharp socket]

i could do more but i run out of time before doing more fleets

[fiery raptor]

are you farming for 6 hours straight? that's the only time I start seeing orange faces in events.

[unique lantern]

a single triple auto is enough to almost bring ships in dorm below 100

dunno about this event tho, stages seem short

[fiery raptor]

I end up doing that when one of the 'lil ships are up for recruitment and have to farm tons of their points

[rare wyvern]

Is morale lost per sortie or per oil used ?

[fiery raptor]

i'd think it's per sortie

[unique lantern]

sortie and ko

[fiery raptor]

or rather per battle

[unique lantern]

tho you shouldnt level ships if they ko, even in last fight

[spring bolt]

36 morale cost for mob fleet in a triple auto, 42 if you are one fleeting, and yes morale will drain fast as t5 is easy

[quartz jungle]

How to get this?

It just sends me to the dorm area

[forest jasper]

day 7

[unique lantern]

lose 2 morale per battle, 10 extra if the ship sinks

[sharp socket]

it takes 12 sorties for ships in dorm to drop to orange

[fiery pelican]

How people have many ships on lvl 120, do they just swap gear, and have all dorm slots unlocked?

[sharp socket]

they farm alot

[fiery raptor]

yeah gear swap is normal that's what the gear presets are for

[fiery pelican]

I know, but morale?

[unique lantern]

well, you ideally dont want them dropping below 120 for the exp boost when farming for exp

[fiery raptor]

but at some point you just have enough equip to let ships keep them

[sharp socket]

put them in dorm

[fiery pelican]

Yeah if you don't have all 6 slots unlocked, morale recovery pretty big issue

[spring bolt]

normally the cap is oil, morale regen is a minor issue

[sharp socket]

i would do this if i had 12 hours to grind with, however i only have like an hour or 2 so i cant do the most oil-efficient method

[rare wyvern]

The goal is to gear something like 4 fleets for Opsi right ?

[unique lantern]

gear for 2 fleets is enough, you can swap during opsi

[fiery pelican]

Yeah, good gear on those ships, you can farm 12-4 with shitty gear

[rare wyvern]

That's true

[umbral briar]

Ask, Does the damage from CrossFleet depend on what weapon is used? Does Meowficer also have an effect?

[fiery pelican]

I wish there will be event no morale drops xD

[rare wyvern]

Opsi

[unique lantern]

crossfleet is based on flagship of receiving fleet, and skill level

[sharp socket]

you can technically get away with only a small amount of core gear, but we end up making more gear to swap less often and is less time wasted changing gear

[spring bolt]

it sounds weird but the goal is to gear 2 fleets in opsi in the end game, 4 fleets in opsi is a mid term goal

[fiery pelican]

you're right, I can just spam opsi lvl 5

[fiery raptor]

i think with how we generally build opsi fleets, the fleets don't end up sharing a lot of gear due to roles but yes we still end up sharing gear when we're fighing arbiter or the harder abyssals to exploit armor weakness

[rare wyvern]

For xp and gearlab mats it's cool, no coins though

[fiery raptor]

every month though from shop vouchers

[rare wyvern]

How many coins even ? I don't remember

[fiery pelican]

Yep but no need to wait for morale recovery

[sharp socket]

yeah for opsi you have mob fleet which does 95% of the stuff, BB fleet for light and med, CV fleet for heavy, and only gear swapping for harbiter once a month

[fiery raptor]

at least 10k if you can buy it out after you get the important stuff

[rare wyvern]

Like hidden data logger my beloved

(I'm lazy)

[sharp socket]

CV fleet can do all armor types better than BB iirc but only if you have the gear and ships for it

[ocean fog]

CVs is cool but bb manual aim is satisfying

[fiery pelican]

Noo, I think Robertoz was talking about this Excess AP Drain (Cat Node Farming) https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/farming#farming_opsi. You can trade opsi coins for ap, then farm node lvl 5 for exp

[rare wyvern]

I meant normal coins, you can't get much as far as farming a useful amount goes lmao

Still need that morale drop to get them coins smh

[fiery raptor]

DR Ship tax

[rare wyvern]

[plain saffron]

Wtf why is there yellow name

[crimson glacier]

discord event stuff

[sharp socket]

golden darkness role

different yellow from staff

[crimson glacier]

they want to limit test if ppl try to impersonate staff members

[heady siren]

Recommendations to replace Repulse with any shipgirls in my fleet?

[jaunty vault]

base repulse?

[jaunty vault]

can confirm, got mistaken for mod, am now in mod chats

[lament hazel]

META Wise

How good is this collab ship?

Did we have a bunch of waifu baits or there is someone that is good

[spring bolt]

in short,
lala is drake++
nana is poi
momo has helena meta level support (or maybe stronger)
yami is standard good gold bb, slightly below owari and daisen

[main meadow]

Anyone can help a newbie out started yesterday and asked one of the servers I'm in. What I should be doing Manly just said progress to w9 and skip collab banner completely. What made it awkward for me how I'm I supposed to do that if I can't summon and basically have the ships they give from tutorial. Didn't really touch it after still w1 cause idk how I'm supposed to go about it

[lament hazel]

Which of the collabs gonna break into Slaimuda T1 at least

[lament hazel]

I mean collabs here

[main meadow]

Why I'm asking here to help figure out what I'm supposed to do

[wary hawk]

You can still gacha, but early on you wanna focus on building a single team commonly consisting of your starter, portland for frontline and units like penny and unicorn for the backline

[main meadow]

Don't have them yet since as I said haven't even finished w1

[lament hazel]

Anyways to grind points

[wary hawk]

Then you know where to begin :)

[lofty garnet]

hey all, here first position means bein flagship?

[wind hazel]

this should be off flag

[main meadow]

Not really still confused i see Portland is in missions but how I'm I supposed to get the others

[wind hazel]

you can buy the ships from Guild Shop

[wary hawk]

Ships also drop from winning battles

[wind hazel]

portland, helena, pennsylvania and unicorn are from guild shop alone

[wary hawk]

These ships that are considered must haves early are entirely non gacha

[main meadow]

I see

[zinc cave]

Any non-flagship spot

[lament hazel]

Anyways

To grind points on event

How many fleet cycling I have to do?

[sharp token]

how to gain affinity fast again? sortie, secretary and dorm only?

[zinc cave]

MVP doubles normal sortie affinity gain

[sharp token]

how does gaining affinity works? like per sortie you used her?

[wind hazel]

/wiki affinity

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity

[spring bolt]

around 0.0625 per fight, doubles if mvp
which means 16 fights per aff, 8 if mvp

[main meadow]

Just use these 5 fn?

[wind hazel]

you can fill in the last one with something you have

maybe a Long Island or Ranger, whatever you have

and move Portland to the most left position

[main meadow]

Okay

[sinful escarp]

put portland in the left most position, laffey in middle and helena on right

[sharp token]

doesn't matter what level as long as it's sortie?

[main meadow]

Thx

[sinful escarp]

for vanguard left=tank, middle=squishy ship, right=off-tank

[sharp token]

wanna oath that momma so bad so i gotta lock in her

[spring bolt]

yes, something like main story or event or war archive stages only, stuffs like pvp, challenge mode, event ex, opsi doesn't count
basically if the sortie costs oil, you will gain aff, no matter ship level, stage level, you just gain same amount per fight. unless you used the high eff plan thing, but that thing doubles oil costs and only saves you time irl, no extra gain in game

[main meadow]

Are there any stages I should farm?

[wind hazel]

push campaign until you can start the ongoing event

then farm event, going as far as you can

[tacit mortar]

guys, are the new collab girls on the same level with gridman girls?

[main meadow]

Thank you

[icy mist]

Too hard

[tame jungle]

you can go diagonally btw

[south bear]

You can go diagonal

[icy mist]

Oh thanks i did it

[faint cloud]

It's said that you can click the HelpMeMissLala logo to skip, haven't try it tho

[noble tulip]

Accuracy buff based on base hit or total hit ?

[spring bolt]

ACC stat
base + gear

[plain saffron]

it says at start of battle
if she have skill that increase ACC stats(also at start of battle) how does it stack

base * skill * that aux skill?

[spring bolt]

iirc usually additive to skill %, but need to check codes to confirm as this one is new

[boreal wagon]

it revaluates the stat entirely and %buffs stack additive

this aux is no exception

[plain saffron]

[keen pewter]

wait thats pretty good then

[boreal wagon]

i think on start buffs might be special in that they are combined beforehand but the idea is the same (someone else might remember)

[spring bolt]

no, still worse than sg, as 3.5% is too small and usually translate to 5-7 hit for a bb, but sg has 35 hit
only good part is carriers can use it, but cata usually provides more average dps, so mainly a pvp thing

[noble tulip]

Even in pvp it's worse

Fairy poster and sg radar just give way more hit

[keen pewter]

its worse than sg?

oh rip

[opal stirrup]

Guy help how to solve this

[tame jungle]

go from green arrow to red arrow

[forest palm]

we really out here failing the most basic of puzzle

[plain saffron]

will TB help me if i fail long enough

[bold stream]

Hello all. For DD, laffey is okay as second right? Or would it just better to build wakatsuki already.

[forest jasper]

you should join TB in school if that is the case

[frank pulsar]

dont decide a ship's worth based on hull type, hull type only matters when the game specifies it like in hard mode
e.g. ca is commonly mistaken to be a tank hull type when two of our best vanguard dps are ca
wakatsuki is better than laffey, just make sure you have the bulin to mlb her

[bold stream]

Yes. But as new player I was thinking on the line that I should build 1ca,1cl,1dd vanguard for now.

[frank pulsar]

nah

build whatevers good, no need to follow any form of hull type structure

[bold stream]

My vanguard exp is already in a mess...

[lunar mason]

Is 6-4 worth farming for the ship that drops there?

[frank pulsar]

imho no, yuudachi is pretty outdated

[bold stream]

I really need to fix my vaguards

[lunar mason]

Not worth for the tech points I’m tryna work towards PR ships?

[frank pulsar]

if youre not at 9-1 yet you probably shouldnt go arnd raising a lot of different ships

[frank pulsar]

dd is the hull type that provide the least amount of tech point, surely you have a bb or a cv lying arnd with useful 120 tech to raise

[lunar mason]

Wym 120 tech?

[spring bolt]

poi kai is still decent

[bold stream]

I am at 8 but I am pretty sure I can get to 9 if there isnt an event thats a must farm

[frank pulsar]

when ships reach lv120 they provide a tiny amount of permanent stats for their hull type
e.g. musashi provides +2 fp for all bb that are at lv120 or higher at lv120

[lunar mason]

Ohhhh okay I mean I don’t even have anyone level 100 yet

I only started playing last week so is she worth getting cause I’m new?

[frank pulsar]

no, not worth

[bold stream]

I lvled koln sisters to 70+ and even admiral hipper...

[spring bolt]

no don't farm 6-4, farm event t5 or try to get there if you can't now

[lunar mason]

Where should I aim to farm then rn?

[frank pulsar]

yikes, you dont have a portland lying arnd somewhere?
you need to raise one for newbie mission eventually

[spring bolt]

event t5

[bold stream]

I have portland wait

[lunar mason]

What level stuff do I need for that?

[frank pulsar]

oh nice
just run portland z23 and helena, dont raise anymore ships until 9-1

[bold stream]

These are all my vaguards.. and the mistake is glaring

[frank pulsar]

you dont have the gold bulin either to make them work anyway

[bold stream]

I have bullins.. like 16+ ssr hullin

[frank pulsar]

your ships need mlb to perform well
whats your backline like

[bold stream]

I havent ssr bullin anyone except bismark

[frank pulsar]

bismarck is bricked enough for me to build a house out of her

[bold stream]

This is my backline

[spring bolt]

with poverty gear +6, average level 75-80 if you uses 2 fleets, 85+ if you uses 1 fleet
but if you have musashi from previous event, 75 on average is enough to one fleet clear t5, i just tested it and my musa was not evem mlb

[bold stream]

I think i got the backline quite okay

[frank pulsar]

use sushi unicorn sara, start retrofiting portland and unicorn asap
bench ulrich, shes no longer worth your ur bulin now, also bench bismarck

[bold stream]

Lack gold retro atm... I am trying..

[bold stream]

I got ulrich dupe so she is lb1 with 2main guns

Bench her after reaching 100 maybe?

[frank pulsar]

nah, last limit break is more than a third of a bb's dmg
just bench

[lunar mason]

Rn I got musashi at like 98 with the rainbow weapon and ingraham also lvl 98

5 star LB

[frank pulsar]

use purple twin 410, rainbow triple 460 is only good for certain end game content
also mlb your sushi when you can

[spring bolt]

use this if you have one

[bold stream]

This is the twam I am using to farm event map. Who should I replace hutten with? She is currently on the boss killing fleet

[spring bolt]

this is my fleet for one fleet farming t5, and i started yesterday with average level 75, musa was lv 80 with main gun +7
the point is raise musa skill 1 asap, and before you bring t5 to safe, hand pick weaker enemies and avoid fighting all 3 elites

[frank pulsar]

dont need two fleet, im pretty sure your fleet one is enough to solo

[bold stream]

Out of ammo boss fight?

[frank pulsar]

im running some actual garbage and its working

you leveled your sushi's skills right? its fine

[bold stream]

Yes she is at 10, 8, 8 atm

[main meadow]

Gonna be a minute till I van actually beat the fisrt stage of event. Guess continue with campaign?

[hollow gust]

Ur also maxing another Musashi?

[keen pewter]

you dont need 2 fleets at your level

[frank pulsar]

you guys getting second sushis?

[spring bolt]

? another?

[hollow gust]

Well why not

[spring bolt]

i only have 1 tho...

[hollow gust]

Wait how?

[hushed sorrel]

i dont think you missed something

[spring bolt]

this is my en account, not cn

[hollow gust]

Did u miss her initial event

[frank pulsar]

werent you a helper back when i was new player? how did you not have sushi

[hollow gust]

That's why

[frank pulsar]

makes sense now

[hollow gust]

[frank pulsar]

im starving for bulin and yr enjoying all the extra ur

[hollow gust]

It's my spare musashis

Sucks I couldn't get a spare Soyuz

[heady siren]

Are the ships got from clearing stages dropped randomly?

[spring bolt]

i am in the middle of an experiment "how easy/hard it is for a new player to one fleet clear ch 12 and if it's possible to use tirpitz instead"

[mint flint]

random from the predetermined pool

[hollow gust]

One fleet chap 12 is so easy , pulled that shit off with zwei when she first came out on lil e

[heady siren]

I've been told that elite or higher ships are guaranteed to be dropped but in reality not always the guranteed ships must be dropped.

[hollow gust]

You are guranteed 1 ship to be drop of any rarity

Not elite or higher

[main meadow]

What stage should I farm till I can handle the event?

[hollow gust]

U should be pushing campaign if you can't fight event

[frank pulsar]

very easy, i rmb clearing up to 13-1 with only 2lb sushi, unicorn, indep, london, swiftsure and allen

[mint flint]

you want to be pushing campaign until w9 minimum, preferably w12

[frank pulsar]

back when i was new player (yes, london tank)

[spring bolt]

good to know! anyway i guess the tirpitz part will be more worth testing
@frank pulsar @hollow gust

[heady siren]

And then, I've just finished chapter 3-4, which supposed to have either Akagi or Kaga dropped. Is it recommended to clear this stage again and again for these guranteed ships?

[mint flint]

no

[frank pulsar]

tirpitz would be very interesting yea

[heady siren]

I have heard that 3-4 is not very recommended.

[mint flint]

they're neither guaranteed nor good

[plain saffron]

so many wiki contributors

[tame jungle]

Come back to 3-4 later if you really want them for collection

[heady siren]

alright, so clearing 3-4 once is enough already then.

[mint flint]

just keep pushing

[main meadow]

@mint flint @hollow gust thx

[novel solstice]

There are better carriers available than Kaga and Akagi (unless you want them as secretary for floofy tails, or are trying to hit 100% collection).

When the game launched they were quite good, but there's been six years of power creep since then.

[heady siren]

Are Zuikaku and Shoukaku better than both Akagi and Kaga?

Overall-wise?

[frank pulsar]

probably, but neither of those pairs are good

[boreal nacelle]

whats the recommended lvl for T4 in event?

i cant beat it

[heady siren]

You mean both Zuikaku and Shoukaku?

[frank pulsar]

zuikaku + shoukaku is probably better than akagi + kaga
but both of those pairs arent good

[heady siren]

Slightly better than the fox twins but still not good for fleet battle?

[atomic abyss]

Hi

[frank pulsar]

akagi and kaga are just straight up bad, zuikaku and shoukaku take too long to ramp up
youre better off mixing good ships together instead

[atomic abyss]

As someone who actually tested the IJN carrier duos extensively

Let me summarise the good and the bad

[heady siren]

haven't have them yet but I want to know.

[forest jasper]

T4 probably 70+ for a decent time

[atomic abyss]

The only areas the foxes have is the fact that they have an early first airstrike, and the best fighter cover that's literally all

The cranes beat them both on individual damage, and notable mention that Shoukaku works excellently without zuikaku, and can was even used to proc and buff shinano in the time we lacked Hakuryuu+Amagi, she still works there now but Hakuryuu is much easier to D30 now

The bunny retros beat both duos in almost every conceivable area, from oil cost to damage (and damage curve) to tech

Realistically you'd use none of these and just field Hakuryuu with Shinano (assuming you lacked Amagi CV, otherwise you'd replace Hakuryuu with her)

[lofty zodiac]

Who is the "bunny retros"?

[atomic abyss]

Hiryuu and Souryuu

[heady siren]

So Shoukaku works very well even without Zuikaku

[atomic abyss]

She has a very nice buff

[frank pulsar]

very well is overstatement

[crimson glacier]

i wouldnt say very well

[atomic abyss]

But that's it, as a buffer for shinano

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[atomic abyss]

If you were talking about individual damage, she would still fall behind Taihou (w/ Aug)

And that's not even accounting for the monster that is enterprise

And Zuihou has far more utility as a pseudo healer

[heady siren]

What about Ayanami?

[atomic abyss]

Quite depressingly

[frank pulsar]

she only works on manual, otherwise pretty bad

[atomic abyss]

All the starters have been well and truly powercrept at this point

[heady siren]

I've heard that Javelin, Z23 and Laffey are good for fleet battles.

[halcyon bay]

is tick tick kaboom glitched? it always auto fails me when my score reaches 1509

[atomic abyss]

Shimakaze and Unzen are URs, which does make them a bit more costly replacements

But with Ibuki's recent augment there's no reason to even use ayanami

[heady siren]

But not very sure about Ayanami since she is not given as a starter.

[atomic abyss]

Maybe 6 years ago

[soft raft]

The only reason you'd raise a starter ship at this point is because it's required for rookie missions

[frank pulsar]

i have no idea what you mean by fleet battles
all of the starters are powercrept, with laffey being the best of them performance wise and z23 being the best value wise

[atomic abyss]

You won't bring them to any tough content

[spring bolt]

~~good old Jave-f**k you in the face-lin, before they change how eva works ~~

[soft raft]

She is on the JP Client instead of Z23

[dreamy blade]

youre given her after getting mlb of the other 3 starters

[atomic abyss]

I mean it doesn't change how you probably wouldn't use any of them outside your starter fleets

[heady siren]

then gonna download the JP version of the game soon

[atomic abyss]

Or I guess to fulfil level requirements for hard mode once you're done using them

[little geyser]

Any of these ships wort investing in?

[dreamy blade]

and awakening commissions

[plain saffron]

you know you can just get her right

[dreamy blade]

it's fine to use guild coins to buy ships for kms tech right

[heady siren]

So in the end, me getting the sakura empire ships more for collection rather than stats during battles........

[soft raft]

after you have at least Unicorn, Pennsylvania, Helena, and Portland yeah

[gilded carbon]

Yes

[plain saffron]

well they do gives stats at lvl120

[heady siren]

And then I also heard she is given as a reward after I have collected all Javelin, Laffey and Nimi.

[plain saffron]

yes, MLB all of them

[heady siren]

[plain saffron]

i can assure it's 100% easier than playing JP unless you speak and live there

MLB a ship is fucking easy

[heady siren]

As a new player, this game kind of like testing my patience.

Alright, fine, I'll take notes of those.

[forest jasper]

if this is testing your patience, i worry about the 3m exp grind in the future

[soft raft]

this game is a marathon, not a sprint

[plain saffron]

you mean only 1 day grind

[mint flint]

just treat it as something interesting to log onto every day

[spring bolt]

month is the most frequently used unit to measure time in this game

[slate vigil]

Hi guys, i came back after a long time of not playing and my mail box is full. If i delete read mail will the messages that i marked as important but already read also be deleted?

[plain saffron]

no but if you want to be safe move them to archive

[slate vigil]

Archive?

[soft raft]

Move Mail -> (A prompt will show up) -> Confirm

[slate vigil]

Ok ty

[soft raft]

Claimed oil and coins now also go into their own storage space you can claim from later

[fierce robin]

Both?

[primal silo]

I have been using the logger (the one bought with oil) to auto opsi
How to auto without it?
Because dangerous zones need to be reconned, right?

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message

[atomic abyss]

^

[fierce robin]

Also what makes Marco Polo bad?

[soft raft]

She's technically not terrible, but like all PR rarity BBs, they're easily outclassed by UR BBs

[fierce robin]

Oh

[atomic abyss]

Such as Friedrich de Grosse who you're collecting

[fierce robin]

And doesn’t agir outclass anchorage

[viscid swift]

stuck with an 85% proc rate on her barrage among other things

[soft raft]

Yes but also no not really

[atomic abyss]

Not by much in her use case, and you need more than 1 tank

[viscid swift]

even among SR BBs I'm starting to find her a bit underwhelming

[soft raft]

there's some situtations where Agir's heavy armor works against her

[hollow gust]

More like achor outclasses agir

[fierce robin]

Which ship should I choose for this too

[atomic abyss]

Shinano

[soft raft]

Shinano > UvH == NJ > Shimakaze

[fierce robin]

Okay okay should I then pair Shinano with my boss or mob fleet

[fallow sedge]

Mid game heavy cruiser recommendations? My current is roon muse

[soft raft]

dunno who you have, but you should be working on Anchorage at that point

And ngl Roon Muse is a bit of a useless purchase considering how easily she gets replaced by Anchorage and the CBs and doesnt provide any tech points

[primal silo]

How to auto explorable zones in opsi without oil logger?
The darkness makes auto battle stop

[frank pulsar]

conduct recon under orders or activate a lighthouse

[soft raft]

she can work in either fine, but you probably shouldnt use her until she's MLB

[fallow sedge]

I am trying to get anch trying to mlb my reserve eg ships

[spring bolt]

you can use lala if you care about the collab, performance wise she is a drake fs5 but tankier and has support
but saving cubes for december UR is also a wise choice so you need to decide it on your own

[fierce robin]

Ah okay, which pr do I do first out Agir and anch as I still need to get tech points for them

[soft raft]

If you already did FdG, Anch first so you can coin her while working on Agir

[lament hazel]

Minus Hakuryuu,

Mamagi, Shinano, and... Whom

CV cross fleet for Event SP

yes, cross fleeting is a must

[wind hazel]

uh... don't need crossfleet

judging from your account, i assume you can do this too

even NJ works if you're missing zwei for whatever reason

[lament hazel]

I would always want to full crossfleet

[fierce robin]

Not right now, I’ve started AvP and part way through her, banking on the fact unlocking AvP will allow me to research FDG

[wind hazel]

[spring topaz]

this is sort of a strange question. But I have been doing hardmode 9-4 every day to complete my daily mission and just to use my 3 attempts. The level is stuck at 2 stars, and no matter how many more times I do it, I am not making progress towards 3 star.

[mint flint]

on clearing mode there're no escorts

[soft raft]

turn off clearing mode

[mint flint]

only the boss

[spring topaz]

fair ... so simple ... thank you

[lament hazel]

Is this good?

[wind hazel]

it's a total waste of oil

[amber frost]

Azure Lane keeps mentioning the mood of my ship girls, how do I check that per ship to make sure they are performing as they should per fleet battle ?

[mint flint]

your ships are level 125, just do a 1:1 fleet

[mint flint]

if they're at low mood they'll have a face next to them in the dock

at even lower mood the face will turn orange

[spring bolt]

lowest cost sp fleet i have ever seen

[amber frost]

uh huh. ok thanks I know few of them hate fighting let alone put up a fight with higher level ships around them.

[mint flint]

also mood doesnt affect combat affectiveness

it just affects xp gain, and at 0 mood you lose affection

[lament hazel]

Full Crossfleet is my truest way but okay

[mint flint]

theres no need for crossfleet at all

[wind hazel]

if you wanna waste oil then use yours

[forest palm]

isn't oil cost different for CN

[spring bolt]

it should be same for those ships iirc

[amber frost]

thats what I am concerned about, but you have other ship gurls like hiei meta, she loves a blood bath, if you dont give her a good fight, she gets pissed. )_)

[mint flint]

the game warns you and pauses auto battle when ships reach 0 mood

[amber frost]

huh never happened since I started 3 months ago. oh well.

[mint flint]

that just means you've never farmed long enough for mood to drop to 0, or that you've always had the used ships in dorm

[spring bolt]

btw, no affection gain when mood is between 0 and 30, so you might want to keep morale above 30 not 0

[soft raft]

not zero, more like 30-40

[mint flint]

the game stops auto battle at 30 mood?

[forest palm]

no it stops at 0

[soft raft]

yeah

or at least 30 is when the prompt shows up

[forest palm]

the message only appears at 0 morale

[mint flint]

yeah thought so

[forest palm]

30 ~ 40 is when all benefits drop off

[mint flint]

yeah

[marsh bison]

should i pair musashi with shinano and amagi(cv)