gameplay-help

[torn salmon]

What exactly is a special class DD?

[lofty pivot]

I feel bad for replacing Laffey 😭

[undone plover]

Kita tank will die to any hard content
Her fate sim gets rid of the requirement tho

[plain saffron]

is there full context? the guild ops?

[foggy cypress]

Ah I see now thank you

I should start focusing on her fate sim then

[stark quiver]

Like fubuki and something?
Or was that kancolle

[torn salmon]

exactly

[turbid dawn]

What is the best 'azur lane fleet tool' I tried using the Github one but it's missing so many ships

[lofty pivot]

I just wing it 💀

[undone plover]

I would focus on coining pr4 first
But if u like her or know what u are doing then sure

[whole crypt]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/ or Lars's one I didn't keep the url

[foggy cypress]

Ah alrighty thanks for the advice

[junior walrus]

What is this pre task?

[tame jungle]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/

[turbid dawn]

Thanks

[stark quiver]

Look above develop

[plain saffron]

do you have a screenshot

Special Composition: 3 Special Type DD or more
this?

[junior walrus]

How do you develop??

[viscid swift]

Special Type DDs would the Fubukis, Ayanamis, and Akatsukis

[whole crypt]

for guild ops just hit recommend

[torn salmon]

i need at least 4

[viscid swift]

no you do not

[stark quiver]

I was right

[viscid swift]

using them will help boost the rating but you can send a fleet without them

[torn salmon]

no well just for more points ?

[whole crypt]

the gains are the same you just make it clear maybe 5s faster

[stark quiver]

There’s a text that said register 20 or more eagle union ships in your dock

[torn salmon]

is there any description within the game that describes it ?

[plain saffron]

the requirements only need 3 at least

[torn salmon]

it say 2 and 2 for me

[plain saffron]

there's 2 and 3 version

[keen sable]

Is that what happens when you tap develop?

[mellow cape]

For cubes only research, is there an avg time predicted to get enough BP for the UR ships?

[whole crypt]

it's just a direct translation of the Japanese "class" for the ships, there's no ingame description or proper English translation of it

[viscid swift]

This?

[torn salmon]

Am not dunb

[soft raft]

dunno
but I do know for sure that you dont spam cube researches unless you have like At least 800-1,000 cubes

Cuz it takes quite alot of cubes

[keen sable]

Again tap rec

[torn salmon]

left is the first mission

[viscid swift]

yeah special type DD refers to these 3 classes

[junior walrus]

It just says finish pretask

[plain saffron]

both are separate
2+2, not 4 in a send

[soft raft]

Have you done this first?

[keen sable]

Restart game would be first thing

[whole crypt]

do you have 20 unique USS vanguards

[torn salmon]

never said so ^^

[plain saffron]

Fubuki class is multiple ships

[viscid swift]

They're called the Special Type because they basically set a new standard for destroyers, they can really be considered the first ever "modern" fleet destroyers, and changed how every nation designed their destroyers from their on out

[plain saffron]

as for how to know who is Special Type ingame, no way

[viscid swift]

watching Kancolle finally paying off

[plain saffron]

you have more than 4 ingame

[undone plover]

I think for DR ships u stop perma cubing after PRs are done
Just cube to refresh if no DR research

[viscid swift]

correct

[plain saffron]

tldr just press recommend

[keen sable]

The ui normally should say like 17/20 achieved. It should be a bug

[torn salmon]

i just did not know which ships they meant 😄

[plain saffron]

there's no way to know unless you google i guess

[stark quiver]

watch kancolle, been years since I did

[torn salmon]

go to your dock and select eagle union then you can count em

[plain saffron]

offtopic, what's the diff between fubuki class type I II and III

[viscid swift]

I honestley don't know

[haughty dust]

why does the event end so quickly? I still have not pulled the event UR character with even over 100 pulls. I am thinking I may not have the rng luck this time

[plain saffron]

use this

[stark quiver]

Rerun is a week

[soft raft]

Reruns just do be like that

[whole crypt]

1 is fubuki class, 2 is ayanami class, 3 is akatsuki class

[viscid swift]

yeah, sub classes basically

[plain saffron]

so EN call them 1 to 3 instead

[soft raft]

yeah subclasses with minor improvements

[torn salmon]

so bugged i got musa with the free spins 2 times so i had 3

[undone plover]

If u have the cubes but are struggling with gold farm 12-4 with HELP tickets
Also stop spending gold in research and other things like upgrading gear and uncapping ships

[viscid swift]

"The second group, or Ayanami class, were built in 1930 and 1931, and had larger bridges that encompassed the rangefinder, an azimuth compass sighting device and the gun-fire control room, as well as a range finding tower. Furthermore, the boiler room's air inlet was changed from a pipe to a bowl shape. They also benefited from the deployment of "Type B" turrets, which could elevate each gun separately to 75° for AA use, making them the world's first destroyers with this capability.[12]

The third group, also known as the Akatsuki class, were built from 1931 to 1933. These vessels had three larger boilers instead of the previous four and a narrower fore funnel. Improvements included a unique splinter-proof torpedo launcher-turret, which allowed the torpedo launcher tubes to be reloaded in action.[12]"

Those are the differences

[torn salmon]

help ticket ?

[sweet delta]

Off topic but why is this in gph

[plain saffron]

why would you not want more UR anyway

[haughty dust]

that is what I have been doing minus 12-4. I have run out of ways to get tickets atm and yes gold is an issue

[undone plover]

The things that double sortie
High efficiency logistics plan I think

[whole crypt]

because guild ops is lame, but you can still just hit recommend

[undone plover]

Double check your mail storage as well

[haughty dust]

I did

[undone plover]

Honestly go to 12-4 and u will be fine
Event gold income is very bad

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#High-Efficiency_Combat_Logistics_Plan

[torn salmon]

i did not know them under that name

[undone plover]

But there is only 1.5 days left so get farming if u want sushi

[keen sable]

Rng luck was the wrong strategy anyway

[whole crypt]

it doesn't really make sense in translation because they're not officially named in English or anything

unless you meant HELPs

are we done with the special class DD thing yet

[haughty dust]

I think my rng was better last event

[whole crypt]

RNG is RNG

[sweet delta]

We were done but you ENed

[torn salmon]

HECLP

[haughty dust]

wdym?

[junior walrus]

Pretty sure I do but my shit broken now so

[sweet delta]

RNG luck strategy works 70% of the time

[viscid swift]

if you wanted the UR you should have prepped for the worst case scenario

[whole crypt]

restart game

[junior walrus]

Even tried restarted my phone loool

[viscid swift]

i.e. enough coins stockpiled before hand and enough cubes to hit pity with the tickets

[haughty dust]

how would you even get it with real money? didnt think that was possible

[whole crypt]

try difference device

[stark quiver]

Buy cubes with gems

[sweet delta]

Easily?

[stark quiver]

It’s a gacha game anything is possible

[torn salmon]

did you try turn it off and on again ?

[junior walrus]

I will not be downloading this on my work pc

[whole crypt]

you can buy cubes and coins with gems, we just don't recommend it

[keen sable]

Trade license a month beforehand

[junior walrus]

Loool yes

[undone plover]

Honestly try and farm some gold
Use your remaining cubes
Then save for December event

[haughty dust]

dont have enough gems

not even for more dock slots

[torn salmon]

tablet maybe ?

[undone plover]

Musashi will perma eventually u can get her later

[whole crypt]

try #tech-support instead

[junior walrus]

If it’s still going on later today I’ll down load on my personal pc

[torn salmon]

Musa is not Bisko 2 so surely she will be added soon

[viscid swift]

give it a year at least

[undone plover]

For future UR events try and save 250-300 cubes by the start of the event

Also 1 week before event u can start stockpiling gold if u dont think u can play a lot during event

[whole crypt]

same as Shimakaze July trust

[haughty dust]

how long do you think that will be?

[undone plover]

~ 1 year from now

But that is just a guess

[atomic lagoon]

If you're lucky it's only 9 months like Ulrich but that's all speculation

[whole crypt]

Shimakaze was also in that ballpark

[undone plover]

Plan ahead for december from now

Also u might still get musashi if u can get more gold
But that is up to you
I would roll for her if I was you

[whole crypt]

well it's not like saving now will help you with TLR even if you wanted

not at that count

[junior walrus]

It was glitched we’re so back

[haughty dust]

btw last mob fleet vanguard units while grinding out xp for a PR 7 character could not do 12-4 without dying. Since I finished all xp objectives. Any thoughts of these characters who I could put in my mob vanguard fleet? picture will come shortly. Typing this on a different device than the game is on.

[whole crypt]

if 12-4 doesn't work out do 12-1 instead

[keen sable]

Unicorn

[haughty dust]

They could not even do chapter 10 before.

[whole crypt]

who is "they"

[haughty dust]

the mob fleet

[whole crypt]

so who are you grinding now again or what do you need?

[haughty dust]

these are some of my top vanguard units atm. Some need to be worked on and others dont. Just not sure how to update the fleet formation for general xp grind

[dawn ledge]

who's the best to be on main tank

[viscid swift]

they're all main fleets

[whole crypt]

none of them are vanguards so no none of them can tank

[haughty dust]

well already finished the characters xp 1 and 2 objectives and all she needs is 8 retrofit materials. I think Napoli but have to check which PR7 to be certain

[dawn ledge]

it's only flagship?

[whole crypt]

well if you're done with the XP grind just level whatever you want

[haughty dust]

yes I was correct Napoli. Not sure who to xp grind with though

[whole crypt]

they're all just tech fodder don't bother with them if you don't know what you're doing

[whole crypt]

you're already done with CDC1 and 2 right? then just level whatever

[keen sable]

I don't think you should be buying that stuff...

[dawn ledge]

They're not good?

[whole crypt]

not at all

[haughty dust]

yeah but not sure which to do and if so then I would have to figure out gear.

[soft raft]

underwhelming af and not worth it for any pratical usage

[haughty dust]

any suggestions from the photos I posted?

[soft raft]

META does not equal Meta in terms of the game term

[viscid swift]

you could start by getting Harbin, Mogador and An Shan to 120

[whole crypt]

mogador plymouth harbin

[keen sable]

125

[haughty dust]

which faction is harbin again and mogador? I think Plymouth is RN correct?

[atomic abyss]

harbin is chinese, mogador is french, ply is british

[torn salmon]

Is it common to use meta ships ?

I only use bisko sub so far

[atomic abyss]

what

[dawn ledge]

bri'ish

[torn salmon]

*meta

[soft raft]

Metal ships?
Bismarck Submarine???

[torn salmon]

Yes

[spring bolt]

probably 556

[soft raft]

Depends on the specific META but generally, no not really outside of fleet tech fodder

[whole crypt]

meta 556 isn't bad but you probably don't need to care about subs for now if you need to ask

[sweet delta]

There are some really good meta ships but these are few

[torn salmon]

Her royal knight

[whole crypt]

and meta ships are generally mediocre to meh

[atomic abyss]

there are good ones, but they arent UR level

[torn salmon]

Thanks

[viscid swift]

yeah you do know a good chunk of people won't get that reference right?

[soft raft]

Default 556: Nah
556 META: Maybe if you lack the subs to do wolfpack, but the comp she's good in requires two event limited submarines

[atomic abyss]

well, actually you could make a case for michita being UR level DPS

[sweet delta]

Is drek UR level too?

[viscid swift]

well what does the rating say

[whole crypt]

she was about 4 years ago, just barely

[atomic abyss]

what, ECTL?

[haughty dust]

OK and do I need to swap the order of any of them?

[viscid swift]

no I meant this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[atomic abyss]

no but genuinely, michita DPS is legitimately impressive

[torn salmon]

I have two I have 11 iron blood subs with 3 SR

[atomic abyss]

colorado in flag, thats about it

[viscid swift]

oh yeah I have seen it when I tried her in QE META

[haughty dust]

So who needs to be swapped around then?

[atomic abyss]

the ship who's already in flag, namely vanguard, should be swapped with colorado

[soft raft]

IE Swap Colorado and Vanguard around

[haughty dust]

so Vanguard with Colorado, but nothing for the vanguard ships/units themselves?

[atomic abyss]

no change there

[keen sable]

Just curious does this mean you finished all pr dev? In like what? 6 months?

[haughty dust]

I’m not sure what you mean

[atomic abyss]

ply is 5* there

[keen sable]

Develop is not research...

[keen sable]

I mean did you acquire all pr ships and Napoli is your last one

[torn salmon]

Bro is speed running

[junior walrus]

Should I start saving cubes for events or still pulling?

[sweet delta]

What r u pulling for

[cobalt rapids]

stop when u get musashi

[junior walrus]

I’ve just been doing light pulls to build a roster

[viscid swift]

d ou have any interest in the To Love Ru Collab

[cobalt rapids]

u should be pulling on musashi banner not on permanent ones

[keen sable]

Do you absolutely need tlrgolden darkness? If not keep pulling for musashi

[whole crypt]

you don't need to build a roster when free ships can carry you to mid game

[junior walrus]

Every other gacha I’ve played it’s always recommend to just pull first few days to get roster built up

[sweet delta]

Mass pulling light

[cobalt rapids]

well here is different

[viscid swift]

that's the opposite of what's recced in AL unless you start during a good event

[haughty dust]

no

[soft raft]

You really sound like you need to give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[noble tulip]

Your pronouns suit you well

[whole crypt]

this isn't every other gacha, unfortunately

[junior walrus]

I’ve looked at some but I’ll give it a good read

I got my team set up earlier with the free stuff so I’m focusing that.

[haughty dust]

@keen sable

[junior walrus]

Probably save cubes for when I can max out a banner. Seems to be the way.

[noble tulip]

You should have a lot of free tickets from Musashi's event rn did you use them yet ?

[viscid swift]

no, the event ends tomorrow/early Thrusday depending on your timezone

you can't gurantee pity but Musashi is worth trying for

[soft raft]

if you mean the pity, that only applies to UR events/reruns in which case you need 400 cubes to guarentee pity if you get extremely unlucky
And this one ends in like 35 hours or so

[viscid swift]

again, if you don't care about the To Love Ru Collab

[junior walrus]

I got a few banners I pulled them but nothing crazy

[haughty dust]

any advice for gear on Plymouth, Harbin, and Mogador? Right now they have none and I did get the event UR gun

[sweet delta]

Just copy ectl

[keen sable]

Thanks I was just wondering how fast you were speedrunning

They can't use event gun

[haughty dust]

also besides what gear they should have. Once I level up the new UR gun I got who does it go on best?

[stark quiver]

No one

It goes well on no one in most situations, too long of a reload

[haughty dust]

well then why does it exist if that is the case?

[elfin hollow]

just in case a future ship can utilize it well

[haughty dust]

hmm

[tame jungle]

You use it when you need it in specific comps or on specific ships

[keen sable]

Hotel space

[tame jungle]

It’s more of a case of rather have it but not use it than the other way around

[elfin hollow]

@haughty dust do u have alsace

its ok on her

[eternal basalt]

*The method for obtaining exclusive special equipment for collaboration ships is as follows.

"Lala Satalin Deviluke": Obtained as a reward for clearing the cumulative invention requests in "Help me, Lala!"

"Nana Asta Deviluke": Obtained as a reward for the mini-game "Pipopipo Training-kun"

"Momo Belia Deviluke", "Golden Darkness", "Kotegawa Yui", and "Sairenji Haruna": Obtained in collaboration event-only missions (can be viewed in the mission list)

[native hemlock]

the SG radar reduces the time of activation of helena's skill for each time, or just on the first time it activates?

[viscid swift]

as expected

[soft raft]

big doubt on that
sure preload, but like

the fuck it gonna do after that lol

[elfin hollow]

i said its ok on her

def not her best in slot

[tame jungle]

You wait 30 years for next salvo

[stark quiver]

Because the devs made it?

[cobalt rapids]

theres no best in slot unless its best in slot/content

the gun is great when its great

[sweet delta]

A 460 Alsace best in slot moment https://youtu.be/7OhHfuxugyY

[cerulean musk]

is this worth using

[soft raft]

Not really

[cobalt rapids]

nop

[cerulean musk]

[sweet delta]

It's free so I don't see why not

Oh using

[cerulean musk]

[sweet delta]

I use it for fleet power

[stark quiver]

How much bb rld would I need to get off last salvo with 460 on Alsace + fcr in nagaM

[sweet delta]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[torn salmon]

no double catpult for shinano?

[cobalt rapids]

thats just a standard preview image

[sweet delta]

I would recommend 4 seconds for the last salvo but you can count frames in a YouTube video to get more precise

And clearly with double catapult she would be greatly desynced

why two +11 catapults though

[forest palm]

[boreal wagon]

idk ask the person who made it - which is me and i don't know
(aka ill fix it)

[swift holly]

...

[stark quiver]

I’m using this comp and it’s getting nagato down to 2 bars of hp, anything I can change?

[cobalt rapids]

improved quad on unzen

otherwise just more +13s

[viscid swift]

more plus 13

[stark quiver]

[dawn ledge]

is there a misc on these 4?

[undone plover]

get enty

[cobalt rapids]

get enterprise, idk what u mean by misc

[dawn ledge]

Infront assault

[tame jungle]

Still no clue what that means but yeah get enty

[cobalt rapids]

this just confuses me even more

[dawn ledge]

here

i only have 3

[viscid swift]

they're all aircraft carriers

[cobalt rapids]

1. nope they are all backliners
2. enterprise is great so you should get her anyway
3. u prob need a vang adjustments, at the very least spee and sirius should be replaced if ure still onefleeting

[undone plover]

they are all CV so they go in back slots
u should read the newbie guide
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

use portland, helena, starter DD
u can get helena and portland in guild shop

[cobalt rapids]

haguro can stay imo

[undone plover]

fair enough I did not recognize her

[onyx chasm]

Do I wanna use my sr bulins of enterprise or anyone else?

[cobalt rapids]

enterprise and constellation

one mlb at a time

[onyx chasm]

Alr

[onyx chasm]

Does marrying any of them do anything in particular?

[dawn ledge]

the oath thing is giving a shipgirl a ring of promise to get a skin?

[undone plover]

if they have a skin yes
not everyone has an oath skin

[dawn ledge]

I see that entreprise has one

[onyx chasm]

Does baltimore have one?

[undone plover]

otherwise they get a special border and their affinity can go to 200
some of them get new voice lines as well

at affinity 200 they have 6% more base stats than affinity 100

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Wedding
check here
I dont think balti does

we get ~7 new oath skins per year as well
so it is possible for some ships to get them later

as f2p you only get 1 ring/year
rarely they give one more
so dont rush if u are not sure who to oath

[dawn ledge]

ok thx

[sweet delta]

Try again in a week

[sly marsh]

If I had to build just one BC which should it be?

I need one built for hard mode clears

[atomic abyss]

hood is the most easily accessible one

and one of the best

[sly marsh]

Any other heavy hitters?

[atomic abyss]

the best BC is collab limited

[vague raft]

Zara

[sly marsh]

Tamaki? I think I have her

[atomic abyss]

yes

otherwise, we're looking to things like Odin and Rupprecht from research, and Strasbourg and Constellation

or even repulse meta

[sly marsh]

[atomic abyss]

[sly marsh]

Alright, thank you bubba, I appreciate the help

[atomic abyss]

reminder that this is #gameplay-help not #al-general

[vague raft]

problem?

[atomic abyss]

yes.

intentionally incorrect advice will be treated as trolling.

[vague raft]

I saw wife I just said tho don't use her XD

[atomic abyss]

like i said, keep that for #al-general

a new player that does not know better may take you seriously

[barren tapir]

put your ships in the dorm :(

[dawn ledge]

i only have 2 place

[atomic abyss]

your first use of gems is getting a 3rd dorm slot

[barren tapir]

ya it's rough early, just keep in mind when they are orange face they stop gaining affinity and you may want to take a break

[atomic abyss]

your 2nd use of gems is getting the second floor after expanding the first floor area with tokens

[soft raft]

^
This nets you a total of 6 slots which is enough for your mob fleet

any extra slots is 💳 territory since the cost gets too high for F2Ps

[honest stirrup]

I thought getting the second floor didn't unlock any slots?

[stark quiver]

It’s misleading

2nd floor doubles your current slots

[keen sable]

Technically correct is the best correct

[sweet delta]

reddit megathread recommends 5th slot, dock space, and then second floor

[honest stirrup]

Holy hell I have been missing out on 6 slots for dirt cheap all this time

[soft raft]

5th slot 💀

[little tree]

Isn't 6 slots as f2p not mangable with free food without dumping a lot of oil ?

[keen sable]

It took forever for alo to change also

[keen sable]

Eh you can't feed second floor...

[honest stirrup]

oh ok I understand
It says "doesn't unlock any training slots", but unlocks morale recovery slots which is pretty much the main goal of dorms anyways

[keen sable]

And imagine feeding your ships

[keen sable]

Yes technically correct

[little tree]

Not talking about second story

[honest stirrup]

They're eating curry for breakfast, lunch, dinner, supper, sleep, toothpaste, drink, birthdays

[little tree]

~~ im curious if buying all frist floor slots can you manage 100% uptime as f2p without using oil to buy food ~~

[atomic abyss]

it depends on how casual you are

[barren tapir]

pretty much also it is short time like 9 hours to run out lol

[keen sable]

Casuals can't create food...

[atomic abyss]

if you barely spend any time grinding you'll have plenty of oil for dorm

[keen sable]

Clearing rewards throws off a lot of food

[atomic abyss]

unique, up till like when i came back to AL, when i actually grinded a lot, i was always throwing oil to dorm to stay below soft

so it depends on how much you grind

[honest stirrup]

me too, glad to see I wasn't that crazy

[atomic abyss]

which is directly related to how active you are

[keen sable]

The question was without using oil for nothing...

[queen jackal]

no not really, i have 6 slots f2p and im running out

[undone plover]

Medal shop and coin shop food is usually enough for upkeep

[sweet delta]

I have 6 slots "f2p" and I didn't run out of food after 4 years

[honest stirrup]

Coins and medals can be invested in better things, since food is just irrelevant in late-mid game and early-games could really use the medals for bullins

[barren tapir]

it probably depends on your coin shop luck

[sweet delta]

Just farm more but then if you farm more you won't need dorm exp anyways

[barren tapir]

i rarely see food in it as for medals depends on if you have spare medals after getting more important things, imo

[keen sable]

I have 112M food or around 3 years worth

[barren tapir]

i do have a lot of food stocked by now but i only have 3 slots and only use the food sometimes when im not moraleing cogcapped ships

[honest stirrup]

I think I have something like 450 curry by doing what the guy said above about the soft cap

[keen sable]

Food doesn't even generate xp at low cl

[barren tapir]

i mean it does, but not a lot. i would never use oil on food unless you're way above softcap

[stark quiver]

I used to open mail and take the oil and buy food

[barren tapir]

even then you could argue the 10 hour comm is better use of it...since that gives cubes (eventually, randomly)

[keen sable]

Casuals should definitely long com first

[sweet delta]

This is my role model
#trophy-room message

[honest stirrup]

My man is on a mission 😭

[barren tapir]

that is somehow more cursed than grinding gem comms

[keen sable]

Someone failed math. Isn't that 250 million in curry

[barren tapir]

yes

it would be 2.5 million oil value tho i think

1000 food is 10 oil right

that's a lot of oil 💀

[keen sable]

Hmm 1000 oil a day for 6 years or about 25% of guaranteed income?

I don't even bother on alt anymore. Wasting time microing dorm for 8 hours of xp isn't worth it. If I can't spend the 100M in food as is I can't spend it in future either

[grave mica]

Out of my UR’s Vanguard, Laffey II, Musashi, Shinano, Amagi, and UvH, who should I MLB first? Here’s the other UR’s I currently own if that helps:

[cobalt rapids]

amagi

[undone plover]

Amagi --> wait for Dec imo
u already have 3 UR BB so not like u need musashi but she is a good upgrade over FdG later on

[grave mica]

Thanks a bunch!

[delicate bronze]

hello chat, im something of a veteran player yet i havent even finished world 14
can anyone recommend me some good fleet compositions for world 14 (currently finished 14-2) and world 15? preferably auto capable

[cobalt rapids]

/w15 if u can follow otherwise open a thread here

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[novel solstice]

14-3 is a big difficulty jump over 14-2. In particular, it bring in enemy subs which if they get past your vanguard will mess up your backline. So bring your hedgehog, and probably a second ASW thing for backup (like the anti-sub aux plane that you can put on unicorn).

[delicate bronze]

W14/W15

[lucid dirge]

What carrier have good damage and preload airstrike?

[elfin hollow]

i know alsace and sovetsky are pretty good

[low juniper]

What exactly is this?

[eternal moth]

Uni

[viscid swift]

Chise, Aquila

[lucid dirge]

Does table with all preload and mgm exists?

[vale spindle]

It increases the weapon coefficient by 4%, 10%, 18% at lvl 1 2 3 respectively (all compared to lvl 0)

which basically means the weapon does 18% more damage at +13 compared to +10

[low juniper]

Across all content, and not just in OpSi?

[vale spindle]

weapon coefficient is a hidden stat for whatever reason idk why ask devs

[low juniper]

I see

So does that stack with the opsi dmg boost or is it calculated differently

[vale spindle]

They stack but both are 2 different things so its complicated

If you look at the final damage dealt formula, weapon coefficient is its own thing and opsi damage boost is considered a type of DRB

we love complicated math

[low juniper]

What's DRB?

[vale spindle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations go to the damage ratio bullet section here for more info

tldr it encompasses all universal ship +damage dealt bonuses, like enterprise red skill or the cat talent

[low juniper]

I see, I'll read it later since I'm a little busy

[vale spindle]

Its the largest page on the wiki in terms of number of headings

[boreal wagon]

ops boost is a hunter tho

[vale spindle]

we (the wiki) are heavily considering splitting it up into multiple pages

[vale spindle]

Im dumb

[boreal wagon]

no u are sam

[vale spindle]

I even wrote the entire page too

[cinder hornet]

lately I'm getting too many of these comissions that require a lvl100 ship and I only have one ship at that level, is it bad rng or am I going to keep getting comissions I can't do?

[eternal moth]

Once you unlock them you get a certain number a day

[cinder hornet]

ok, so I guess I won't be using the 4 comissions slots anymore 😞

[eternal moth]

Get more ships to 100

[eternal basalt]

Get ships to lvl 100 ASAP

[cinder hornet]

yeah well, easy to say, I'm perma farming the event right now and it's not like they are leveling fast or anything 😞

also they are part of my fleet so if they are in a comission I can't farm anymore

[dreamy blade]

does this look ok for w13? (pretend heinrich and musashi are leveled and mlb )

[eternal basalt]

And the one 100 does commissions, no combat

[eternal moth]

Why are you using Akagi?

[soft raft]

that's Akagi Muse
Which isnt as bad as regular Akagi but yeah there's better options

[dreamy blade]

i forgot I have Sara but those are my only cv options

[eternal moth]

Sara would be much better

[barren tapir]

saraqueen

very solid staggered damage

[dreamy blade]

and izumo gun on musashi?

should I swap Portland and heinrich or is this better

[eternal moth]

Do you really not have Ancho or Agir ready to go yet?

[dreamy blade]

nope

[eternal moth]

Then what you have might be ok.

Who's the last frontline in your boss fleet, Port, Sandy and?

[queen jackal]

watarase

[dreamy blade]

It's between wata and Helena for that slot and I'd rather use wata

[keen sable]

Use your L100 ship. If won't be for more than a few hours a day

[dreamy blade]

would it be better to put amagi on flag for watarases barrage since musashi is slow and can barrage off flag?

[keen sable]

Musashi is only slow if you give her bad gear...

[barren tapir]

someone's neglected tech

[dreamy blade]

is izumo gun bad gear I guess it wouldn't really make a difference either way

[barren tapir]

just ignore them until you have more lvl100+ ship and can fill them without crippling your fleet(s) i had the same issue where uni was my only 100 and my fleet wasn't functional without her it's ok

[soft raft]

I dont think that's the issue there
Is your Musashi MLB?

[dreamy blade]

^

[dreamy blade]

Just the expected result when since I've started the only events have been 2x IJN + Italian + tempesta

[barren tapir]

incidentally, it's why raising a couple decent commons like leander and ranger can be very useful alongside your main fleet even if ppl don't exactly recommend it. they make very useful fodder for commissions or specific requirements

[soft raft]

yeah no wonder why

[barren tapir]

we prolly started around the same time, those are my events too

[dreamy blade]

why what

[sacred thistle]

who in particular should I focus on investing in and keep in my fleet? im new and on ch3 if that helps

[stark quiver]

Which retro item does an Shan use

[sacred thistle]

sorry if that's like answered in the online guides I just wanna make sure so I don't waste mats

[barren tapir]

azure dragon something

[stark quiver]

Thx

[barren tapir]

seal of the azure dragon*

[soft raft]

no wonder why she feels slow to you
She is missing a good chunk of her stats at 0LB

[junior walrus]

Should I focus gems on dorm? If the answer is yes is it simply more slots or comfort level?

[soft raft]

3rd slot of dorm and 2nd floor
that's it

After that it's all in on dock space

[dreamy blade]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips should give this a read since I don't see unicorn, but Nelson is solid from what you have

[junior walrus]

My ladies are very sad I thought the pool would help but it did not

[barren tapir]

you don't gain rld from lbs so ackshally that's just a level/enhancing issue afaik

wait do you gain rld

[soft raft]

that
that is the lvl section of her stats

[barren tapir]

well they said 'assume she is maxed' for the actual usage

[dreamy blade]

brother she is level 63 and 0LB I haven't used her at all yet I just commonly see people refer to her as being slow

[barren tapir]

use dorm token on expanding the first floor, first

[keen sable]

Gems for comfort is 🐋 territory

[soft raft]

she is indeed slower compared to other UR BBs
But that doesnt really have much impact on her when she's mostly beeg stonks damage BB

And the difference can be solved by changing her gun and/or adjusting BB RLD Tech to sync her better with other BBs

[barren tapir]

wait they used gems ?!

[dreamy blade]

I'm assuming I should run shell + fcr on her?

[soft raft]

FCR is generally to deal with 20s shields or syncing with SG Radar Helena but at this point I just run White Shell + HSFCR on all my UR BBs since I cba to swap auxes around constantly

[dreamy blade]

ty I will most likely report back once I'm done raising my ships to ask about gear

[junior walrus]

bruh this guys youtube vid fucked me up i shouldve came here first. He literally said it's the best use of the gems lmao.

[sacred thistle]

I haven't been able to join a guild yet that's why lol

ill keep applying I guess? or is there a better way to get in one

[junior walrus]

I had the same issue. IDk what kind of guild you're looking for, but I'd switch to casual if you aren't doing that. A competitive guild likely doesn't want a new player.

[viscid swift]

there's no difference really

[cobalt rapids]

#1246721562741178410

[viscid swift]

just participate on guild ops and that's the gist of it

[dreamy blade]

hood if you don't have her mlb and are lacking bb options

[soft raft]

For BBs, Hood > Everyone else in terms of Pratical use
Everyone in DD is mostly tech fodder

[mellow cape]

Is 2-1 still the best Cube farm?

[soft raft]

that has not been a thing for like at least 4 years

[mellow cape]

How do people farm cubes in the current meta?

[dreamy blade]

it's usually advised to pick enterprise from that instead

[soft raft]

then you can use the medal shop for Hood then get Enterprise from the reward

Or if you already have Enterprise, you can use the reward on Sandy

[barren tapir]

technically yes not worth your time if you have literally anything else you need to be doing

[viscid swift]

playing the game normally

[barren tapir]

also c1 is prolly better since it's entirely 0 oil and ap neutral (and more afk friendly)

[viscid swift]

and taking cube commissions when they pop up in addition to all the guranteed stuff

[soft raft]

Doing your dailies and not pulling on perma banners outside of 1 light pull per day

they are tech fodder that can be obtained later, Hood is like the 2nd highest priority pick from medal shop

[barren tapir]

hood

highest is enty

(i still don't think hood is particularly great to invest in, honestly. nelson retro is really good and doesn't take gold bulins)

[viscid swift]

well Hood has her own benefits

[keen sable]

Never was

[viscid swift]

she can fulfill those annoying BC only slots and doesn't require a retro

[barren tapir]

ooo yeah honestly i forgot about BC only slots. that's fair

[junior walrus]

I checked the beginners guide and didn’t see anything about this shop?

[dreamy blade]

ah yeah same since i used hiei meta for those. and i assume hood having that reload buff is more useful later in the game

[junior walrus]

Nvm I found it ignore me p

[dreamy blade]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority

[sweet delta]

And doesn't require retrofit materials and Rodney

[barren tapir]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#medal

[barren tapir]

tbh i havent used hood since w11 and she's been dumped at lvl100 for a while for me now

[soft raft]

Nah that reload skill is miniscule as shit

Her unique augment that buffs her barrage proc chance to 100% lets her stay more relevant than a majority of SR BBs

[barren tapir]

it's mostly bc she was so meh i decided i dont want to gamble investing on her augment when those cores take a while to obtain

also im pretty sure nagato meta smokes her and i join soon enough to get her maxed before she leaves

[cobalt rapids]

absolutely smoked

[dreamy blade]

nagato meta is a bb tho no?

[cobalt rapids]

bc bb are functionally the same

[barren tapir]

well i also dont need a bc anymore since i do w12 hm

[cobalt rapids]

i reached w12 without using a bc

[dreamy blade]

well we were talking about bc only slots

[barren tapir]

bc only slots is like w9 hm iirc? i dont think w11 needed one and i skipped w10

[fathom sable]

Do i want to max them out?

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur +13 prio

[soft raft]

She needs it

[undone plover]

left no
right maybe later

[soft raft]

Otherwise half of her barrage careens straight off screen every time

[fathom sable]

I'm seeing that it does not increase their stat or just 1% extra damage for OpSi l. Am i wrong?

[barren tapir]

disclaimer that this is for endgame ofc but personally not too enthused at hood being wholeheartedly recommended (even for BC slot) for newer players when she needs augment to be good and drops off a lot later on

[cobalt rapids]

yea, its 18% more weapon coeff which is just 18% more dmg for that weapon which is a hidden stat(the numbers at least) in game it shows as modifier level 1/2/3 at +11/+12/+13 respectively

[dreamy blade]

yeah thats why i originally said only if lacking bb options

[slow fox]

SuchiChart spotted

Best source of misinformation [citation needed]

[cobalt rapids]

you need ships to get you to midgame

[barren tapir]

ye both have their own associated costs

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[barren tapir]

nelson requires retro and hood requires gold bulins and augment

[real jasper]

Hi everyone, I just download the game, can I farm enough to pull 1 girl on the next event, and can I rise her after the event end?

[barren tapir]

(hood also costs more coins and cog chips to reach 120, if that matters)

[undone plover]

i am not averse to bismarck/tirp recc to get FdG working sooner tbh
not like u NEED hood to reach ch12

[dreamy blade]

im not convinced hood's performance is worth the cost when compared to pennsylvania for the really early game

[barren tapir]

i used penny fine in w9 tbh, probably would've been manageable in 10-11 but i used hood (no aug) + nelson there

[undone plover]

how crucial is BC slot? which hard ch needs it?

[cobalt rapids]

imo people who lucksac enty and have nelson can forego hood since they can postpone starter retro for rookies

[barren tapir]

ch 8-10

[cobalt rapids]

like 9 and 10 and mby some below but those dont matter since u can non full fleet em

[dreamy blade]

it is hard/impossible to really farm for pulls in this game, you get most of them gradually over time just from playing

[analog hill]

Is control table worth on Alsace

[undone plover]

best advice would be save your cubes for december UR event
next event is to love ru collab so if u like them u can maybe spend cubes and try and go for them
current event is a rerun and it is ending soon so it is a bit late to worry about it

[real jasper]

ty, so I need to reroll if I aim for a specific girl on the event? How long it take to farm 10 pull for beginner?

[dreamy blade]

if your priority is the to love ru collab then the best thing you can do is push campaign chapters as far as you can and raise up a fleet that will be able to clear the event maps

[cobalt rapids]

worth on any bb, the best aux most of the time unless gimps timing but most often than not not

[barren tapir]

given how frustrating it ended up being for me to get scharnhorst to drop, i agree that bis/tirp should be very valid considerations for the medal shop, even if only to ease a headache

[dreamy blade]

rerolling is highly not recommended since unlike other gachas you dont get a big influx of pulls at the start

[undone plover]

they are also better 120 tech than hood

[viscid swift]

You would be the only one

[dreamy blade]

by really early game im talking up to around chapter 9 or so

[real jasper]

Oh I see, btw how long do it take to level my team to clear the event?

[viscid swift]

Half an hour give or take

[undone plover]

for general new player in a vacuum hood is still best recc probably
but if I create a new account for example I would go for KMS personally

[viscid swift]

And that's without having to create a new account

I'm still not convinced in the slightest

[barren tapir]

i mean honestly

penny is really really dirt cheap

hood requires 4 gold bulins and 35k coins (for mlb + augment) and if we continue this, 22k coins to level120

so even if hood does perform a fair bit better than penny when invested, the cost is also noticeably higher

[viscid swift]

But she's also a much much better ship right out the gate even without her augment and Nelson for that matter

And really, who else are you gonna spend bullins for that matter

[undone plover]

enty and bismarck/tirp

[barren tapir]

is she? she really disappointed me personally, im aware anecdotal experiences are not hard evidence of anything but still i want my bulins back

[viscid swift]

Hood is still top 3 easily among permanently available options you can reasonably get early game

[dreamy blade]

early on it's really the coins not the bulins that are rough

[barren tapir]

i'll grant you she was useful for ch9 hm by fulfilling the requirement, though

[dreamy blade]

10k coins just for the last LB is a pretty steep cost for a new player (source: me a new player)

[viscid swift]

I want to make this clear too, Hood has been powercrept but all of her replacements are not easy to obtain

That's why she's still being recced in 2024

But it's absolutely worth it

[undone plover]

that is fair but my only gripe with that is unicorn is strong enough that u can run anything and reach ch12 so the opportunity cost of investing in hood over a KMS ship isnt worth

[viscid swift]

Okay so my argument is not that Tirpitz or Bismarck won't get you there

My argument is Hood will get you there faster and with less hassle

[barren tapir]

granted, the difference between penny/hood/nelson isnt too important since for me they mostly just served as a meatshield and protection from suicide boats while my cvs did all the work (uni in mob and sara+amagi in boss)

none of them actually did much damage in campaign for me was always cv carrying

[dreamy blade]

depends on how much you play but maybe a couple weeks or so, it will be kinda hard since it's starting in a few days if you only downloaded today

[real jasper]

Thank you very much, but is there anything event-exclusive that cant be missed for the unit I pull? Or I can upgrade them later without worry?

[cobalt rapids]

not all players start with a ur cv 💀

[dreamy blade]

yes once you pull them then youre fine (unless they have a unique augment that can only be dropped from the event?)

[barren tapir]

what if i told you sara was the main carry 9 times out of 10 (but yeah i got lucky on amagi for sure)

[dreamy blade]

you dont need dupes to max out units in this game

[undone plover]

tldr more min max get KMS ship
easier time get hood
dont wanna spend gold bulin use penny/w.e
for new player easier time is prolly best recommendation so I am not against hood recc to new players

[real jasper]

thank you, that's all I need to know, so I just need to chill and play the game then

[undone plover]

which one is better tirp or bisko just curious

for ch1-12

[eternal moth]

Neither TBH

[sacred thistle]

I keep hearing stuff like this and it's making me think more people would probably be playing if it wasn't impossible to open the game in public😭

[barren tapir]

id guess tirp cos she'll always be solo bb for campaign so obtain her buff

[dreamy blade]

and lack of kms ships to benefit from bis buffs

[dusky cloak]

what do I do about my flagships getting nuked in Chapter 10? Im killing suicide boats but enemy battleships ignore my vanguard and destroy my backline. I tried toolbox and extinguishers and EVA items to no avail and my ships are lvl 100+

[stark quiver]

More dps to kill faster
Aka fix fleet/gear

[viscid swift]

Stick a fire extinguisher on your flagship

[dreamy blade]

kill them faster or run a 2nd bb to split aggro since if you use 1bb/2cv and the cv's stay undetected then your flag will eat everything

[viscid swift]

Or just use Fire extinguishers

[barren tapir]

also (one of w10 or w11 boss, i don't remember which. full auto yada yada) i never rlly figured out why sara was doing so much better but i think it's cos of her consistent damage and aoe, since amagi is better when you can keep a boss still but early chapter bosses love moving a lot? but yeah, sarat0ga just for reference (there was also slight level and gears difference because of waifuism, i will admit, but that level of dmg gapping is more than just those imo)

[dreamy blade]

well he said he tried extinguishers

[viscid swift]

Just fire extinguishers not full defensive auxes on the main fleet

That's just a disaster waiting to happen

[dusky cloak]

yes i did a run with toolbox and extinguishers equipped and noticed almost no difference

[tired condor]

should i just finish this

[eternal moth]

Do you have Musashi already?

[tired condor]

just got her

[hollow gust]

Honestly if you are struggling with fire extinguishers that means those mobs are surviving for way too long. There are other issues you have to fix

[stark quiver]

Sure if u wanna

[dreamy blade]

personally i would to save a rainbow bulin

[eternal moth]

Save your cubes, we have another UR event in a month, and a collab if initerested starting this week

[dreamy blade]

1 more free build ticket tomorrow maybe you'll get lucky

[tired condor]

i have 3 ur bulins and this

[dreamy blade]

how are you on cubes

[tired condor]

193

[barren tapir]

avoid triple bb nodes, those can be rough if rng doesnt favor you (ask me how i know) but extinguisher on bb flag + unicorn + another cv, ideally with desynced/staggered damage will help

[dreamy blade]

maybe save then

[tired condor]

theres another ur event?

[eternal moth]

I'd save the cubes at that point, it's gonna be tight to get enough for the next UR

[barren tapir]

but even with that if you simply get unlucky a flag can take 50% damage from one triple bb node, so just try to avoid those, or do them only on 4+ ammo

[stark quiver]

End of decemberish

[tired condor]

i thought amagi just came out lol

time passing too quickly

[dusky cloak]

okay I will try to level another CV since I run double BB. Is saratoga useless if not retrofitted and what level should fire extinguishers be mine are +6/7

Im running unicorn arizona nevada

[barren tapir]

sara is very meh without her stuff, retro helps a lot and augment is massive, i wouldnt consider her good without having both

[eternal moth]

Is this on safe?

[soft raft]

Mega pog, why, and why respectively

[barren tapir]

augment especially makes her really good with dmg uptime

[soft raft]

Saratoga is basically Enterprise Lite

[dreamy blade]

i thought that was ranger

[eternal moth]

You're dying because you're using terrible ships

[barren tapir]

idek about that, theyre rather different

[tame jungle]

Enterprise gameplay trailer

[barren tapir]

sara is more aoe/mob focus with excellent staggered damage but much less raw nuke potential, enty goes bonkers whenever her skill procs and is a boss nuker

but also enty has nothing between airstrikes and without her skill proc i think sara definitely beats her but she would blow sara away when her skill procs

[dusky cloak]

I read some stuff saying using the ships I have 100+ already was fine because leveling ships takes forever where im at without a good Lecture Hall for xp packs

[tame jungle]

Not when they’re as terrible as arizona and nevada

[dusky cloak]

Okay 😭

[stark quiver]

Ranger is a joke
Highest damage protential in game, but impractical

[barren tapir]

level advantage helps but if you're just at level 100, you don't have any advantage in w10

[eternal moth]

9-1, 11-1, 12-1, 12-4, those are your leveling zones

[dreamy blade]

arizona lowkey based but nevada is terrible

[undone plover]

nevada is rld tech

[barren tapir]

arizona is 1 thing but nevada isnt that bad considering how 0 investment she is there are gold bbs worse than retrofitted nevada is what i heard

but yeah nevada is not exactly a great option

[dreamy blade]

hence Enterprise Lite

[stark quiver]

I have my ranger oathed tho, waiting for the day I hit big

[dusky cloak]

nevada was lowkey the one that was surviving the most arizona gets crushed 🤣

[barren tapir]

well that's bc, if my memory is correct, w10-11 bb prods love slapping the flag spot and generally ignore the sides (there's 1 boss node where this is reversed, but otherwise it's always flag)

[tired condor]

u dont got any gold ships?

[dusky cloak]

so Im assuming I just level hood for flag and musashi for side

[barren tapir]

oof

[dreamy blade]

you likely dont have the bulins to be able to use musashi for awhile

[tame jungle]

Oh shit if you got musashi you might just be set

[barren tapir]

just judging by your levelled backliners im gonna guess you've been following the ectl newbie guide from 2020

[dusky cloak]

i can LB her one more time

[cobalt rapids]

its ok musashi lb2 alr stomps ur dock for bbs

[barren tapir]

(spoiler: it's quite outdated and excessively budget-oriented when it's reasonable to acquire significantly better ships these days)

[undone plover]

is musashi affected the least compared to other BBs by LB levels cuz her barrage is good

[cobalt rapids]

u should do musashi uni sara for backline

[cobalt rapids]

id take any UR bb at lb2 over the usuall newbie options

[barren tapir]

lb2 has 2 pews and full secondaries plus the epic OP UR skills and statline, so ye theyre solid

[dusky cloak]

the guide says where i’m at I can basically try whatever I want but i been sticking with what i have leveled

[steel gale]

I've only been playing for 2 days and have a noob question about the end of the current event. With the last day, should I try to prioritize:

1. Rerolling for musashi
2. Building up event coins for the Triple 460mm gun
3. Building up event coins for first copy of Wakatsuki

[dreamy blade]

yes but if what youre trying isnt working it's time to reevaluate

[dusky cloak]

well it just stopped working so i consulted chat to reevaluate

[barren tapir]

i'd do #3 since rerolling in AL isn't a particularly efficient use of your time, even though musashi is great you still gotta lb her

and gun is niche and waifu > gun to me, plus she has good fleet tech and is a decent ship herself

[dusky cloak]

and her augment+retro is a must?

[dreamy blade]

i think ch10 is when i started raising a second fleet

[dreamy blade]

uni retro is your #1 highest priority

[barren tapir]

uni retro is like playing a whole different game, get on that asap

[steel gale]

was hoping to hear this tbh thank you 🥹 not sure how often UR bullins even come around.

Is it worth considering a 4th cursed option - spending $$ for 1 copy of mushashi

[dusky cloak]

yea i have her partly retrod but then focused on sandy retro for a minute

[dreamy blade]

only if shes your wife and you have $$$ to spend

[tired condor]

sandy yuckers

[atomic lagoon]

I think it's 32 UR Bulins in a year, if my math wasn't too far off

[barren tapir]

it's your money, i wouldn't. consider that while musashi is incredibly strong, there are other ships that you can use and do fine with, her strength only becomes truly unmatched in the endgame campaign. and she will become permanent within around a year as well

[dusky cloak]

well sandy is retrod already 😭

[dreamy blade]

most of the power from retrofitting comes at the modernization step so you def dont want to stop partway through

[barren tapir]

of course, if you really want her for more than just meta reasons, i salute the waifuism and wish you luck on not spending too much money

[soft raft]

Uh no I would not reccomend the 💳 for cubes
Sources for UR Bullins:

• Specialized core shop (4k per pop, and max income of 5k from grind and 1k from medal shop per month for a total of 6k per month)
• 30k event pt milestone for UR events (15k on reruns)
• lvl 100 reward for cruise pass
• One time reward from spec core missions

[soft raft]

ignore him, idk why he called Sandy Shit

[barren tapir]

[steel gale]

thanks guys! this has been super helpful advice

[dusky cloak]

okay thank you i swear people were saying sandy is super busted

and tier list has her EX

[barren tapir]

sandy is indeed very very good idk what bro was yappin about but it belongs in #al-general

[atomic lagoon]

Her only real downside is that she's expensive to retro, iirc

[dreamy blade]

she is also absurdly expensive to retrofit

[dusky cloak]

yea she took like 3 days to retro but since i’m new i was getting the hard mode clear rewards so it actually wasnt bad

[barren tapir]

yeaaa

7 total gold bulins
like 55k coin including mlb
lots of blueprint
2k spec core
21k coin for augment
15 aug cores

[dreamy blade]

and then you'll want her augment maxed which is also expensive

[barren tapir]

i mean if you reach w12 the coin is whatever, it's the other shit which is a pain

[soft raft]

Dont forget the unique aug too

[tired condor]

isnt sandy only good for aa which is a late game struggle

[barren tapir]

that was mentioned, i spose i can add the cores bc those also suck to get early on

[soft raft]

She gets very good DPS after retro and after unique aug

[tired condor]

my bad then

[barren tapir]

sandy is good at everything

tankier than portland
best aa in the game
extremely high surface dmg (65-90% of ply? iirc? which is like, almost top tier)
good dmg uptime and iirc technically supports the entire fleet making them tankier against planes (fleetwide aa buff? right?)

[undone plover]

also has good asw for a CL

[barren tapir]

i knew i was forgetting something

[elfin hollow]

u forgot that she also looks mid

[dreamy blade]

thats why shes number one

[barren tapir]

she's cute wtf do u mean

[elfin hollow]

mid

[tame jungle]

Bad troll

[elfin hollow]

not even cute imo

[barren tapir]

well that's an #al-general topic anyway but waifu is subjective and irrelevant to gameplay prowess

[dusky cloak]

yea i have her augment i just need to max “I am No.!” for the +

[cobalt rapids]

very cool but this doesnt contribute to the discussion

[tired condor]

when did we get a second free promise ring

[dusky cloak]

did we?

[dreamy blade]

private dorm release

[undone plover]

with 3d dorm

also we get 1 every year with EN anniversary in august

[dreamy blade]

is there 1 for valentines or am i remembering wrong

[viscid swift]

It has happened once in the game’s history

[tired condor]

how do ppl show their entire fleets equipment

[soft raft]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[eternal moth]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/ Or this one

[dusky cloak]

should all my main gear like guns and extinguishers be +10 in world 10? and should I +10 them if they aren’t indicated on the ECTL gear recommendations

[viscid swift]

not necessarily but you should at least try and get main guns and aircraft to +10

and if it's not mentioned in Sam's gear guide then it's not worth bothering with

[sharp socket]

what tech does ruppy and chalk give

[crimson rock]

i stepped away from azur lane for a few months and just came back; what should i do with this 4133 core that i somehow have?

[viscid swift]

Chkalov is AVI

[soft raft]

+2 BB HP/+1 BB FP and +2 CV HP/+1 CV AVI respectively

[eternal moth]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Prinz_Rupprecht You can always look that up on the wiki

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/ Or on the fleet tech tracker

[sharp socket]

i couldnt remember her full name

[eternal moth]

I mean, all you need to remember is prinz

[sharp socket]

theres like 4 ships starting with prinz

[soft raft]

just do like Prinz R and bam

[forest palm]

pretty sure we're close to or at 10 at this point

[viscid swift]

Prinz Eugen
Prinz Henrich
Prinz Adalbaert
Prinz Ruppchrect
Prinz Eugen Muse
Little Prinz Eugen......

[eternal moth]

Eugen, Hein, Rup, and Adalbert, so 4, assuming you're excluding alternates

[forest palm]

[flint cosmos]

Hey guys, we still have 1 more day for Musashi construction right? (A whole 20 November). I know the date is on the banner, but just to make sure if 20 November is the date when it's over or the last date.

[forest palm]

30 hrs 51 mins

[elfin hollow]

mushashi banner ends after the 20 yea

[flint cosmos]

Thanks!

[flint cosmos]

I see, thanks.

[elfin hollow]

Does pity carry over to following banners? I Don’t think so but just making sure

[viscid swift]

no

[soft raft]

And only UR events have pity

[mellow cape]

Do I want to time nakhimov's after soyuz's barrage?

[atomic abyss]

Doesn't matter because nakhi's debuff that begins the freeze only gets inflicted 1.5s after her airstrike

If anything, there's a possibility you'd want to launch before Soyuz
But I haven't done enough tests to be sure

To be clear tho, that's easier said than done

With BF-109Gs it's pretty straight forward
But with the significantly slower LA-9s well, that's the challenge

[bold stream]

Hello all! Is the UR better for hutten for grinding mobs or should I just stick with an HE purple gun?

[atomic abyss]

Just stick with purple HE

[bold stream]

Thank you!

[mellow cape]

Noted, thank you ender

[atomic abyss]

With 1 only LA-9, I'm already forced to use Soyuz with no BB rld tech and a Soyuz gun

And I believe that's with beacon, bf-109g, saiun and about 21-22 CV rld tech

I imagine with 2, you might actually be forced to use a Yamato gun lol

[frozen inlet]

for the event why is it better to run d-1 instead of d-2 if u cant do d-3?

[atomic abyss]

1 less battle, so you save a noticeable amount of oil

[bold stream]

is double 410 better or triple 406?

[atomic abyss]

I'd stick with the triple

[junior walrus]

Why is hard mode stage 2-1 not allowing me to fill this unit

[atomic abyss]

Because you have to fill up at least 1 of the "labelled slot" in the fleet

You're not using any CVs, so it doesn't work

[soft raft]

because the CV labled slot is empty

[atomic abyss]

Albion and Unicorn are CVLs

[junior walrus]

So if im hitting advice and nothing changes does that likely mean I don’t have any CVs?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[junior walrus]

Bruh I wanted to save my cubes

[atomic abyss]

Just go to a different hard mode map

You shouldn't be using cubes if you've already gotten Musashi anyways

[sweet delta]

Just spend $0.99 for a free Saratoga

[junior walrus]

All of hard mode 2 wants a CV. Any I can buy in any of the shops?

[atomic abyss]

Check your medal shop

[junior walrus]

Any rares in the guild shop?

[atomic abyss]

I'm pretty sure there is only like 1 blue rarity CV (wasp)

And it's not in the medal shop

[pallid robin]

Just run 2-4 normal a few times and get lexington

[atomic abyss]

More like check your medal shop again

Trying to farm 2-4 for lex is only gonna gate your progress

[eternal moth]

Anyone have link to the JP patch notes?

[forest palm]

https://azurlane.jp/news/657

[pallid robin]

true

[junior walrus]

Not trying to farm 2-4, im just wanting to use my 3 free passes a day

[atomic abyss]

At the risk of sounding repetitive, could you check your medal shop

[junior walrus]

I only have 12 medals the chicks are 80 each

Unless I could retire some basic units

[storm heron]

don't you get around 600 medal each month?

[atomic abyss]

Where does that number come from

[eternal moth]

It sounds like they just started

[junior walrus]

I have been playing for a single day

[pallid robin]

CVs are really hard to comeby early. So just run 2-4 or 3-1 if you really need 1

[atomic abyss]

How much medals you have literally depends on how much you grind and how new you are

Just ignore story hard mode till you get that 1 carrier

[pallid robin]

afaik there is no cv on the guild shop

[atomic abyss]

Or like, go to a later hard mode without a carrier restriction

[eternal moth]

Oh nice, skill development campaign this week

[barren tapir]

personally i'd just suck it up and do ch1 hm until a cv naturally drops via progression

[eternal moth]

Oh what? I haven't heard this mentioned anywhere yet: December's cruise pass ship is Guilio Cesare META, and skin is for Weser

[storm heron]

is it too far off?

[viscid swift]

it was in the stream

[barren tapir]

does this mean italian UR?

[atomic abyss]

How many medals you get for a non-new player is always dependent on how much you grind/build lol

[eternal moth]

oh, I didn't see it. I'll have to go look

[atomic abyss]

It's impossible to estimate if you ask me

[barren tapir]

i mean it seems reasonable for an active grinder, less so for a casual or newbie

[viscid swift]

all I know is it's +1 hit for my batlelships

[storm heron]

oh the variations too large then

[atomic abyss]

Large is an understatement...

Since to a certain extent it's also luck dependent

[sweet delta]

I used to get ~700 medals per month when I was casual

[atomic abyss]

I highly doubt that was casual...

[sweet delta]

Now idk but maybe 800 with low cost event

[atomic abyss]

Or at least, your definition of casual is very different

[storm heron]

wait casual sushigummy exists

[eternal moth]

So now you're a professional AL player?

[sweet delta]

I farm high chapter which drops fewer medals per oil

[weary gust]

I can't honestly say I've ever kept track of my medal income, but it was enough to buy both gold bulins, all purple bulins, specialized blueprints, general blueprints, and food each month and still profit.

[atomic abyss]

Casuals literally won't even fucking grind more than maybe 30k per event

[barren tapir]

low oil is most medals yeah which is why hardcore grinder gets more, presumably

[atomic abyss]

I believe some won't even grind past 8k

The definition of "casual" is very different lol

[weary gust]

So 1300 per month is what I was getting at least it seems.

[barren tapir]

ok im casual then

[atomic abyss]

Casual player is probably getting at most 200-300 per month
Probably less

[weary gust]

Which is an average of ~43 medals per day, which seems quite reasonable imo.

[barren tapir]

i think im getting around 600-800 but it's unclear since my data is 1.5 months of not-complete-noobism

tbf my data rn is also hella skewed this month bc of me using a lot of my drops to partially lb ships instead of retire

so it might actually be much higher idk

[sweet delta]

Alright then I wasn't casual, I was tryharding with the lowest medal income

[forest palm]

I have not tracked my medals per month, but I feel like I easily get over 600/month

[atomic abyss]

I can tell you that when I was casual, I certainly wasn't getting anywhere close to 400

Let alone 600

[weary gust]

There are days I get over 40 medals in a single retire group of ~60 ships being retiredf.

[viscid swift]

I forget the medal shop exists after the 1st of each month

[junior walrus]

i didnt think my question would become a casual/try hard conversation looool

[forest palm]

400 to 600 a month sounds reasonable for the average player

[sweet delta]

I forget the medal shop exists until the last day of each month

[atomic abyss]

The average player doesn't grind tho

[storm heron]

me on my way to start the most heated discussion in gph

[barren tapir]

yeah 400-600 seems about right for a what, midcore player? not casual casual but not hardcore hardcore

[forest palm]

I feel like I get between 800 ~ 1000 medals per month

[atomic abyss]

Your standards are just way too fucking high people

[rapid grail]

if u arent farmng w11-H at least you're doing it wrong

[storm heron]

since by going hardcore and optimization you can get more oil/day, I believe if the variation is dependent on how casual the players are

[weary gust]

Also keep in mind, you get a lot of medals during events because of building. So that will bump up the average.

[junior walrus]

Me "grinding" hard mode stage 1-4

[barren tapir]

i mean, my thought is 150-300 casual, 400-600 midcore, 800-1100 hardcore, 1200+ nolifer

[atomic abyss]

That would be my guess too

[viscid swift]

it depends on what your definition of each of those even is

[rapid grail]

oh i thought this was for core data, not medals...

[barren tapir]

oh maybe, i havent actually built more than 3 a day yet + build tickets so

[weary gust]

I think it'd be better to define it as % of natural oil income being spent.

~1300 would be spending all natural oil income (what I do)

[viscid swift]

nah that wouldn't quite work

[sweet delta]

Cheeky just doesn't want to be considered a nolifer after his B1 B3 farming

[viscid swift]

because that would assume oil spent per medal is roughly the same which B1 farming yeah yeah

[junior walrus]

casual- only does dailies
midcore- dailys+all expendable/refillable resources
hardcore- all of above + maximize events/stacking resources
nolifer- p2w most likely

[barren tapir]

you have to account for builds like you brought up, months you barely pull will give less medals

[sharp socket]

first time i heard of "midcore"

[junior walrus]

i feel like this sums up most gacca

[viscid swift]

the thing is, maximizing resources literally just boils down to farming W12, not a difficult thing to do at all

[weary gust]

It's a fancy way to save "Average"

[barren tapir]

well idk wat to call the players who are neither as casual as ender mentions nor as hardcore as the ppl yapping about 1k medals+

[storm heron]

hardcore people usually has 99% comms uptime

[barren tapir]

since average leans casual in a game like this

[atomic abyss]

The gph regular is not the average player

And it's very easy to forget this

[forest palm]

midcore is an old ass term

[barren tapir]

oh no im aware, this is currently my main game and who the fuck mains a phone game playing it on pc all the time in the background

[junior walrus]

my maingame is OSRS lmaoooo. i play like 6+ hours a day at work.

[barren tapir]

from the start i said the 600 sounds like a more active/hardcore estimate and not a typical level

[forest palm]

upper end, not an expectation

[sharp socket]

how is a gph regular different from average player, its just spend oil and press buttons until they dont shine red anymore

[atomic abyss]

The average player barely grinds

They just get ships and bail lol

[junior walrus]

If you aren't maxing out your credit card you are an average player

[barren tapir]

the average player likely leans much more to "dailies and log out"

[atomic abyss]

What aurora said

As people have pointed out many times, you literally can't sweep this game, so people are forced to spend time in it

[barren tapir]

i bet opsi has less than a 20% participation rate if that (not full clear...playing it at all to begin with)

[atomic abyss]

CN has stats for that I believe

[sharp socket]

people dont spend oil?

[storm heron]

I have average 90% comission uptime and obtained like 600 medal (?) this month

[atomic abyss]

You really overestimate how much of the player base actually plays the game actively enough to stay below oil cap

[barren tapir]

the amount of reddit posts asking how to spend overflowing oil outnumber the posts asking how to gain more oil by at least 4:1

and to go on reddit already means you're more invested than usual

[sharp socket]

even to get ships you have to spend oil and you're saying average player doesnt spend oil

[atomic abyss]

I'm sorry to say but

[viscid swift]

they don't

[atomic abyss]

The fact that you're a regular here means you're already not the average player

[storm heron]

huh I thought reddit is just normal people trying to have some friends

[viscid swift]

as a former casual it's not difficult to get enough cubes and coins just by doing dailies to sweep most banners

[barren tapir]

participating in the game's community already leans away from casual when it comes to mobile games tbh

[sharp socket]

im a tryhard?

[barren tapir]

[storm heron]

cause some of the questions in reddit are so basic and can probably be answered easier if they google or watch yt instead of making a whole post in reddit and wait 2 days for a joke answer

[atomic abyss]

You literally are rushing to w15

[weary gust]

Average player lifecycle.

1. Starts game during an event because they saw one character they really wanted.
2. Wastes most of their cubes and a fair amount of their gems in the first 30 minutes.
3. Fills team with random SR characters and probably a gold bulin.
4. Doesn't get the character they wanted, complains about having no cubes, might stick around after the event.
5. Plays for a week or two, then dips out.
6. Repeat.

[atomic abyss]

Tf you mean you're not a try hard

[barren tapir]

i mean that's not a bad thing, and there's also a scale of tryhardyness

[fiery raptor]

i'm a casual player. I don't have cv kaga after like 3 years.

[storm heron]

tryhardyness

[atomic abyss]

I can't remember what CN stream said
But I believe way less than 50% of players have even completed the opsi story

I think it was around 20%

[sharp socket]

1 year to w15 is a rush

[atomic abyss]

Yes lol

[soft raft]

Very much so

[weary gust]

If you've completed all the opsi zone stars, you're a tryhard.

[sharp socket]

i admit i did rush w14 but im going ultra chill for w15

[atomic abyss]

The average player wouldn't even reach w13 lol

And the fastest w15 clear I've seen I've seen is 8 months

[barren tapir]

like what, 1% of CN has actually done 15-4?

[storm heron]

Who's the guy that rush to w15 in 8 months again? berke?

[atomic abyss]

W15 before 2 years is considered try hard lol

[sweet delta]

~~The average player reaches chapter 9 in a year ~~

[weary gust]

How much lower is EN?

[atomic abyss]

Abdou

[storm heron]

oh lol he's gone

[atomic abyss]

Berke barely got past 11-3

[barren tapir]

reaching ch12 in 1-2 months is already tryhard af im pretty sure

[atomic abyss]

And even then, abdou had Guam and Laff2 cos he started around the event, both are critical in 15

A player that started after the event certainly is not gonna beat that number

[barren tapir]

since it means you have to grind and progress outside events which the avg player wont do, typical gacha gamer logs in for events and dips while balancing multiple games tbh

[atomic abyss]

Again ^

[junior walrus]

Imma get W14 in under 6 months

[atomic abyss]

I'd like to remind people here that I only did w13 this year

[barren tapir]

i'll make sure to do w15 at 2 years and 1 week so i can claim i am not tryhard

[sharp socket]

sir you quit for like 2 years or something

[atomic abyss]

And that's while being around when w13 was released 4 years ago

[storm heron]

wait didn't know ender is a new player

[barren tapir]

i mean you can afk in ch12 for half a decade if you want

[sharp socket]

AL 4 years ago was harder than now

[atomic abyss]

Which is what I recommend

[barren tapir]

the only reason to go ch13-15 is exclusive ship drop and 750 gems

[sharp socket]

probably because there was no oilcap or URs

[barren tapir]

as well as personal challenge i guess

[weary gust]

I did w13 after about 8 months of playing, looking back at my guild's discord messages.

[atomic abyss]

The only reason why I've even cleared w13+ is because otherwise I can't help the channel as much lol

[weary gust]

That was also 3 years ago though, it'd be easier now.

[atomic abyss]

Otherwise I seriously wouldn't (and didn't) bother

[sharp socket]

i did w13 in 6 months at the same time i did w14 cause i was too lazy to stop farming w12

[barren tapir]

so, how tryhard is clearing all of opsi story and normal arbiter on your first month playing opsi joining it halfway through the month?

[sharp socket]

im pretty sure you cant even do that w/o whaling

[storm heron]

and getting wyvern in the first month

[atomic abyss]

Wyvern in a month unexpectedly isn't difficult

[barren tapir]

what

i start mid september, finally dived into opsi mid october, and got normal arby before reset

got my wyvern a couple days ago

[sharp socket]

the electronics hurt me more than getting UR designs for my 1st wyvern

[elfin hollow]

i’ve been playing for 2 years now and im just doing opsi

[barren tapir]

normal arby october took me uhhh i think 20+ battles lol

this month went a lot quicker i think 7 or 8

[storm heron]

strength took you 40?

[weary gust]

With an account 1 month old, is what he's saying.

[junior walrus]

I did check beginners guide and it said to avoid farming stages for shiny units, but if i do hit a roadblock should i just farm the next highest stage available?

[barren tapir]

somehow i had plenty of those even after making a flapjack

[atomic abyss]

That is correct

[junior walrus]

Thanks King

[rapid grail]

yes that's how you push cmdr lvl in order to get to the next worlds

[elfin hollow]

chat im reaching dangerously low lvls of oil

[weary gust]

touch grass

[elfin hollow]

hell no

[atomic abyss]

Time to pull out the mail...

[barren tapir]

play opsi

[rapid grail]

try looking for oil in your mail

aside from the credit card joke

[storm heron]

that's fine, cheeky left his oil 2 digits

[rapid grail]

no reaction gifs in chat plz, mods won't appreciate that

[atomic abyss]

Also if people genuinely underestimate how casual I am

[elfin hollow]

i took everyting from the storage archive too

[atomic abyss]

I have close to 200k oil in storage right now

[barren tapir]

the solution to oil woes is opsi if you follow that, you will not have to rush a lot at the end of the month

[sharp socket]

cause pancake takes 20 while wyvern is like 78 electronics

[junior walrus]

Deleted it, sorry.

[elfin hollow]

i started with 50k oil just this month

[tender python]

how do I get opsi to auto clear? It keeps pausing on this page when I try, did I do Smt wrong?

[barren tapir]

i think i had 100ish electronics when i made wyvern, i got the last print from arby this month so ya

[storm heron]

go to settings, turn off tb guidance

[spark ridge]

how hard is the event stage D3? can i yolo throw in weak ships for xp whiel i farm event currency?

[rapid grail]

also you can just farm operation siren... ez progression with no oil whatsoever as long as you can sustain your progress

[storm heron]

~🐌

[atomic abyss]

Turn on reduce TB guidance

[rapid grail]

lvl 100 ships, yes

[fiery raptor]

👴 back in my day, we used warspite and essex to clear w13, we didn't have no sandy kai and no fancy schmancy new jersey. We bofors and vanilla hellcats and the ships had to share catapults! we were hard men who used Akashi for aa screening mobs and used base isuzu for anti air. It was hard, every mob node was a B rank and it'd be a miracle if we scored an A on the boss! You children with your laffiis and guams you have no idea how good you have it. Imagine! being able to 3 star w13 and 14 through lethal! Inconceivable! You have it good I tell you. What you can walk to now, we had to soar to achieve. 👴

lmao

[atomic abyss]

Not turn off lol

[elfin hollow]

oh i guess i could do opsi

[storm heron]

oh yea that I mean

[barren tapir]

not hard, but the elites can fuck up your vanguard sometimes, id use uni + any levelled ship as tank and then carry 4 shitters should be fine

[rapid grail]

c1 is free xp provided you stop at akashis every time to buy AP crates in order to farm more

[spark ridge]

lmao the only """""tank""""" i have is yukikaze, built tank at least

[barren tapir]

might want to put fire supressors on the levelling vg, im not sure. an unlucky burn could wipe 30-40% of the dds i was levelling lol

[elfin hollow]

do your ships still gain exp?

[rapid grail]

yes

[storm heron]

bread can be a good tank

[elfin hollow]

poggies

[junior walrus]

also is Portland worth using epic bulin on? or just hope for dupes. She did really good for me today so thank y'all for the team building advice, but I'm assuming she's a place holder till iget a legit SSR/UR tank?

[barren tapir]

ive been farming c1 so much the past couple days since it's very convenient if slow afk farming for ancho exp (im stocking my oil back up for collab)

[rapid grail]

it's partially the reason how sweats finish CDC (1mil, 2mil XP in a day or two)

[barren tapir]

it's also great for cmdr exp

[atomic abyss]

You could use guild shop for the dupes