gameplay-help

[barren tapir]

definitely dont stop at 400 left, you have lots of time to rebuild for pity

ask me i wish i was here for ryza

[viscid swift]

that's about my prediction

[barren tapir]

oh 1 more week then you can drop down to 200 and be fine

[sharp socket]

hmm alr ill sink 100 and see if i get lucky, if not 200 will prob be my max

i havent watch tlr and im not sure if i can speedrun it while event is running so i dont have that much fomo going into this

[viscid swift]

it's not so much the fomo before/during as the regret afterwards that really claims people

[fiery raptor]

oh damn, rikka and reisalyn don't make it into w15 viable ranking. at least kala and klaudia saw use in w14

i thought reisalyn had ply levels of dps?

lack of ply level of tank?

[tired condor]

is event banner ending today

[viscid swift]

no, Rikka's damage isn't anything to write home about and Ryza's damage is frontloaded in a map where battles last on average a minute

neither of them is particularly tanky either or has outstanding AA or support capabilities

[barren tapir]

well tbf rikka could be turned into an aa platform but that's a meme

[viscid swift]

you could but even if you did that her AA wouldn't be terribly impressive

[barren tapir]

does a ship need to be useful in w15 for ppl to care about it though?

[hollow gust]

thats some fat copium lmao, anything past 30 seconds ply turbo stomps her

[viscid swift]

you'd get to about 500 AA stat with no self buffs on that, just one AA gun mount, and if iirc not that good efficinecy either

[fiery raptor]

well i'm largely derping around 15-4 for coin and houston ii dupes, so i certainly would like ships that can work there

[barren tapir]

people pull collabs for waifu anyway

[hollow gust]

then its not collab ships

[viscid swift]

not to mention those 2 are hampered by the fact their equipment is effectively a time capsule to when they're released

[fiery raptor]

yeah i miss when people making compos that somehow make chihaya and iori viable in w14. just not possible for w15 i guess to my sadness.

[viscid swift]

W15 is overall a much stricter environment

you need good AA which a lot less ships have compared to sufficient surface damage and wave clearing abilties

[barren tapir]

w15 makes planes into a raw numbers game and most ships don't qualify even with the utmost carrying

like you definitely arent gonna see full mutsuki class w15 clear some things even manual cannot carry through

being that it's a sheer numbers requirement for aa power

[frank pulsar]

w15 throws hundreds of planes at you per node

[barren tapir]

(then again z vanguard with 450? or so aa stat and like 140 eff managed so maybe the requirement isnt toooo high on manual)

[sharp socket]

any changes to my 14-4 fleet for farming to and on safe, AI is dumb

[viscid swift]

what's failing again

[sharp socket]

mob dies because it runs into a BB node on 0 ammo

[viscid swift]

is the main fleet or vanguard that's dying

[sharp socket]

backline

[viscid swift]

from suicide boats or enemy BBs

[fiery raptor]

otto and felix count as z-boats so z fleet works. z1 says they're z ships

[void garnet]

How long does it take to get all the eagle points to unlock kearsarge?

[fiery raptor]

not too long, a lot of eu ships can spook you in the banners now

[barren tapir]

sushi used z46 z47, id assume bc they have the best AA of all kms dds

[undone plover]

there is like 8 cubes in war archive if u didnt get them before
iirc it was shinano and cavalla war archive maps

and opsi exploration has some cube rewards
u can try hunting for stars
good luck
also double check mail maybe u have some cubes there

[sharp socket]

kind of both, i gave up hope after i saw auto run into a BB node and i didnt stop it in time

[stark quiver]

Why auto farm w14

[barren tapir]

also their barrages are really good for mobbing

[forest palm]

NO

[sharp socket]

i need to get it to safe for the 3rd star

ideally i would manual it but it makes me fall asleep

[barren tapir]

war archive has what

[viscid swift]

I honestley think the easiest solution would to be manually select nodes and pick up ammo while you get it down to safe

[undone plover]

just put rudder on backliners (FdG mainly)
should be fine I think
that is overkill
or wait for musashi

[undone plover]

idr how much but it is very minor like 6-8 cubes total

[viscid swift]

I don't think rudders would fix the issue

[polar lion]

How much pts to grind for this rerun?

[forest palm]

clearly just speed run leveling Musashi, and replace Fred

[quartz jungle]

Maybe try to use Fancy with the +1 ammo aux if you have it?

[stark quiver]

To however much you need Ngl

[sharp socket]

no fancy

[barren tapir]

well i know what im doing in ded week after collab, ty for the info i never wouldve known

[viscid swift]

14-4 you need to fight 7 mobs

[undone plover]

Another thing u can do is cycle the long commission
it is probably not worth but if u are desperate then
I think there is like a 20% chance to get the long cube commission and it gives sth like 5-8 cubs
and do all your daily and urgent cube commissions

[viscid swift]

the only real way to fix the issue would be to beef up your damage
which I don't think you could do significantly right now

[barren tapir]

oh wow we've found a perfect situation to use fancy in

[sharp socket]

can i run auto search on oilcap but turn off auto and manual select nodes and still have oilcap?

[viscid swift]

yes

[undone plover]

surely on safe threat that should be enough

[barren tapir]

oh 7 mobs...nevermind. although, wouldnt it reduce variance still...

[sharp socket]

epic i might just manual it then

[barren tapir]

1 mob risk death instead 2. prolly not good tho

[forest palm]

manual certainly is a choice

[viscid swift]

well I should say turn off auto search and just select nodes

[quartz jungle]

Oh right, well idk

[barren tapir]

turn off autosearch keep clearing mode on

[undone plover]

honestly if u are running eldridge and on safe threat u dont need 2 healers
just replace volga with something that does more dmg

maybe a second BB to focus elite mobs

[viscid swift]

I don't know if I trust Eldridge with that to be honest

[fiery raptor]

autosearch randoing into cv and bb nodes just put too much pressure on your backline. just fight recon nodes.

[barren tapir]

fdg + musashi

[undone plover]

oh wait nvm I kinda EN
u are trying to get it to safe

[viscid swift]

one 3 star comp back in the day did use Chkalov for that reason

[languid reef]

is there a tierlist for priority ships somewhere?

[barren tapir]

tbh id just yeah manual select mobs until it's safe. then see if it still has issues

[fiery raptor]

is eldridge defense more consistent than jda's? because my jda farmed the shit out of 14-4

[viscid swift]

more powerful but not as consistent

[stark quiver]

On a scale of 1 thru 10 how much damages do planes do to me

[quartz jungle]

And it's backline that has problem anyways

[viscid swift]

depends on which ship

[sharp socket]

during my lethal journey i did see eld drop to like 20% before proccing so yea less consistent

[stark quiver]

My backline, I’m thinking of not running fighters

[undone plover]

tearing is context dependent kinda
ECTL has a general tierlist for early to mid-game campaign

For newbies we recommend FdG + PR4, plymouth,
shimanto in PR6 and maybe harbin in PR5 are also good to get at some point

generally all the DR ships are cracked sans azuma and drake maybe (they can be replaced with other options)

[viscid swift]

well if it's a Tempesta with no aug and no AA aux 10

if it's one of my ARs fully built for it like 1

[undone plover]

what if u tank sandy and offtank eldridge

[viscid swift]

I think that might be worse

because Eldridge procs less and Sandy takes the brunt of it which she's not quite built for

and that's not really the issue anyway

it's a lack of damage resulting in enemy BBs and suicide boats getting in and exposing the main fleet and it getting taken out

[undone plover]

sandy retro is like 116% on mebot chart
that is like eugen level

[viscid swift]

yeah but at how much deviation though

[barren tapir]

oh eugen is only 116%? damn

[quartz jungle]

But that has plane bias, on the other hand Eldridge has 1 HP aux only

[viscid swift]

huh

[viscid swift]

not that bad actually

[undone plover]

depends on eldridge rng I guess u are right

[barren tapir]

oh 122 still alot lower than i expected a ship lauded for being "really tanky but 0 dmg" to be

[undone plover]

if she procs less it might be a net negative

[viscid swift]

well she is from 2018

[weary gust]

I used to say Prinz Eugen was the worst SR CA. Even with her aug she's not much better.

[languid reef]

is there a way to send a list of my dock without several screenshots or is that just the way it is?

[viscid swift]

strip it down to launch day ships and things get a bit more impressive

[quartz jungle]

Hmm I think Eldridge having only 1 HP aux is better in off tank

[undone plover]

u can make a thread if u have a lot of pictures

[viscid swift]

honestly I blame WoWs for this

[wind hazel]

ye fucking world of warcraft...

[weary gust]

If you know how to make a video of you scrolling through dock.

[viscid swift]

World of Warships I meant

[wind hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/693064329771089960.webp?size=56

[viscid swift]

the screen shots would be preferable to a video

[weary gust]

easier too

[sharp socket]

so would i want more tank or more dps

[viscid swift]

a SS is annoying to look back through and depending in how fast you scroll more difficult tos ift through as well

[viscid swift]

you would want more damage overall

[sharp socket]

im pretty sure boss goes cleanly so i can move ply over

[viscid swift]

yeah try Plymouth over San Diego

[sharp socket]

though im not sure if ply is carrying the boss and i dont know it

[viscid swift]

I think you'll be fine

famous last words

[undone plover]

cheeky is the uni and volga firing too close?

[viscid swift]

actually

[undone plover]

or is that enough stagger

[viscid swift]

I would call that too close yes

swap the Breguet and Wyvern between them

[stark quiver]

I’m thinking of farming Lethal 14-4 with these 2 , what’s the shot it lives

[viscid swift]

you'll be fine

[undone plover]

honestly replace shinano with alsace as well imo
alsace cross helps mob a bit more
and nano isnt even activated @sharp socket

[hollow gust]

easily, looks overkill unless ur gear is garbo

[viscid swift]

though I think you're being too conservative with tankiness and not enough damage

[stark quiver]

I might add in ply or someone else
Idk yet

[viscid swift]

at least add Plymouth and Unzen in

[quartz jungle]

Laffey II should be front tank I believe?

[fiery raptor]

trading tank for dakka is stonks in w14 and 15.

[languid reef]

e

shouldnt it be more compressed than that

[fiery raptor]

i overtanked with ancho jda and that just made boss fights harder. dropping jda and putting in brest made S ranks more consistent

[sharp socket]

i havent tried that cause i remember recon not being enough with 3 CV

unless recon value disappears in clearing mode

[fiery raptor]

do hsfcr and gamer table affect recon value? i don't remember

[undone plover]

it should I think
ACV might not be AS+ but even AS is enough for ch14
not that big of an issue
and try and make uni a bit faster if u can
maybe switch the torpedo bombers

[undone plover]

recon depends on evasion and avi
so those 2 gears wouldnt help

[forest palm]

back in the day we used SGR

[elfin hollow]

just started playing, i got 300 gems, what should i do with them? (im playing for the upcoming to love ru collab, honestly just want yami and ill do whatever it takes)

[echo vector]

Do we get dead week after musashi rerun or straight to to love ru collab ?

[echo vector]

Dock space

[elfin hollow]

also what should i be doing to maximize my chances of getting her?

[echo vector]

Only luck will tell

[elfin hollow]

what about more 'Builds'?

[echo vector]

Some account got affinity to certain characters appearing more in their summons. No kidding

In my experience spending gem on cubes to build more shipgirls isn't cost effective. At least in the long run.

[frank pulsar]

iirc rate up ssr has 2% odds, better start playing everyday

[elfin hollow]

anything i can grind to get more wisdom cubes? and do you need 200 of them or 400 of them to guarantee a character?

[echo vector]

Gems are more valuable for dock space, oath ring, and skins.

[elfin hollow]

not especially looking for long term, as long as i get her i dont really care what comes after

[frank pulsar]

only ultra rare banners have guarantee, and its 400 cubes
ssr banners have no guarantee

[echo vector]

I think there's a 10 hour commission that guarantee wisdom cube drop and several other short and long commissions that gives them as well, but your account level need to be at least at some mid level

[frank pulsar]

i also highly recommend against spending gem for cube since yr literally bricking yr acc if you ever want to play in future, and be forced to spend money for dock space

[echo vector]

Oathing the girls can unlock additional interaction and lines. Might be worth it.

[viscid swift]

I would agree but replace Independence and not Shinano
a HPFCR + Triple is gonna line up too well with Independence's airstrike timers

[frank pulsar]

your main source of cube is commissions and dailies

[elfin hollow]

what does " super rare" fall under, thats what some website is saying yami is gonna be

[frank pulsar]

super rare is ssr

[sharp socket]

still AS+

[frank pulsar]

wait okay i just realised this might be confusing, im refering to the yellow ships whenever i say ssr

[elfin hollow]

ah ok, and what is the most effective xp grinding method? ive got like 10k oil so should i just be spamming missions?

[echo vector]

Shipgirls rarity. Tier: rainbow, gold, purple, blue, gray. -> UR/DR, SSR, Elite/SR, Rare, Common

[frank pulsar]

grind hardest stage you can in campaign if below world 9, if at world 9 just repeat 9-1

[echo vector]

Yep

ideally the stages you can play on auto mode

[sharp socket]

i also swap sandy and ply right

[viscid swift]

yes, just remember to make your BBs slow because Independece overlaps with the cooldowns of a BB running Triple + fire control radar

[elfin hollow]

aight, and should i be using the " prototype bulin mkii" in my formation? they seem to be gold characters?

[echo vector]

No

[undone plover]

no u use them to limit break characters

[echo vector]

Bullins are strictly only for upgrading shipgirl "stars"

[elfin hollow]

thats what i figured, same with the "universal bulin" then right?

[undone plover]

they are called gold bulins and they are very rare early on
so use them well
dont randomly use them

[echo vector]

Purple, gold, and rainbow bullins are hard to get for new accounts

[undone plover]

universal bulin is for LB purple and lower rarity
gold for gold rarity
and rainbow for rainbow

[elfin hollow]

cool, ive got about 4 of the gold and purple ones rn, ill keep saving them

[frank pulsar]

purple bulins are common, dont be afraid to use them
yellow ones take longer to get early game so be careful with those

[elfin hollow]

Also I basically just slapped the purple rarities on my team, is this fine for now?

[viscid swift]

you might wanna give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[elfin hollow]

ah lmao thanks,

[viscid swift]

only change would be use Hyuuga instead of Pennsylvania

[undone plover]

and get enterprise from medal shop when u can and replace repulse with her

[viscid swift]

and maybe use Haguro instead of Portland???

[undone plover]

maybe use portland laffey haguro
u kinda need portland for the rookie missions
helena he can use later on

[viscid swift]

okay here me out, Haguro doesn't need a retro, and is already a bit more invested in
they push to W9 and then pick up Portland as the tank for their 2nd fleet

[undone plover]

yeah makes sense
cheeky cooking

[elfin hollow]

just picked up a unicorn too,

is there any way to increase their "lvl" without just using them in battle?

[normal crane]

Unzen and Soyuz won't be coming soon right? I have 200 coobs rn, can I save enough for both of them if it's the worse case scenario (pity both)

[weary gust]

Dorm, exp packs.

[elfin hollow]

ohh i see

[silent relic]

is there a list of what ship is safe to dispose or be used as an enhancement or its all of those tier N on that one community tierlist

[sweet delta]

IDK about TN, but there are definitely some T2 or lower ships that you really shouldn't get rid of

[elfin hollow]

What does that red meter mean?

[sweet delta]

Enhance using common ships, retire rare/elite ships who are easily reobtainable

[sweet delta]

/detection

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553

For more information, consult the wiki

[silent relic]

i mean thats what exactly i do, use common ones as enhancement and use rare for medals

[elfin hollow]

Thanks

[dreamy blade]

what is a "ghost aux gun" ?

[silent relic]

Which one to be disposed and which one to be kept

also dupe ones are fine to be used as enhancements as it can be replaced with bulins right?

[weary gust]

Use dupes to limit break, not enhance.

[sweet delta]

A secondary gun that the ship always has, no matter what equipment you give her

[elfin hollow]

is there any advantage to playing manually vs auto other than in auto you will occasionally run into stray torpedos?

[silent relic]

what about the bulins

[dreamy blade]

bulins are for when you dont have dupes

[weary gust]

Or for ships that you can't really farm dupes for.

[silent relic]

i dont even feel the need for all of those, just desperately need for more space

[dreamy blade]

manually shooting (non-homing) torpedoes so they have a better chance of actually landing, and manually firing bb guns get a 20% dmg bonus

[weary gust]

Buy more dock space with gems. That's where 99% of your gems should go if you're f2p.

[elfin hollow]

should i be using bulins on my haguro? she seems pretty strong rn and maybe difficult to grind dupes?

[dreamy blade]

just pulling on musashis banner should end up with multiple dupes of her unless you are extremely lucky/unlucky

[sweet delta]

Keep potter and maybe Saratoga because they're good,
Keep haguro because good tech,
Keep Hiei and eskimo because they're hard to obtain and have uses,
The rest of them you can scrap farmable ships or better yet buy more dock space

[elfin hollow]

saving all my pulls for the to love ru collab

[silent relic]

aight thx

[dreamy blade]

thats a choice of all time

[elfin hollow]

only reason im playing lol, i just want yami

[dreamy blade]

fair enough

[elfin hollow]

but game seems pretty fun, might get more invested and continue playing after

[vale spindle]

Use build tickets since they dont cost cubes

[elfin hollow]

yes the event tickets expire in like 3 days

Yeah gotten like 16 of them ish

Kinda hard to navigate all the screens rn though so I don’t know what I should especially be doing to get them

yea it can be overwhelming for new players

Also cuz the event is quite hard for my brand new account, haven’t been able to beat the second level yet

all good

Anything I should be buying here?

[vale spindle]

u get them through normal event farming
theres some as mission rewards, some in shop (although as a new player you might not have currency for it), and some in point milestone rewards

[vale spindle]

Save the coins for now, if you do all the event missions you should be able to buy everything in the pt shop

[elfin hollow]

the gear boxes are nice for new players

[vale spindle]

Im pretty sure this black friday point event will last through the end of the collab so u got time

[viscid swift]

You definitely get enough

event lasts till December 4th too

[rose cosmos]

Is it worth getting the coin stuffs

[elfin hollow]

Any idea what kind of ship yami will be for the to love ru event?

[viscid swift]

I would at least get the XP packs

the rest is on an as need basis

[rose cosmos]

I already drained the xp ones lol, what about the books

[viscid swift]

if you need them go ahead

[timid solar]

guys why skyrocket purple for support fleet?

[storm heron]

cause it sux everywhere else?

[timid solar]

does the plane matter?

[viscid swift]

yes

[storm heron]

does skyrocket matter? usually yes since people do not craft that many flapjacks for support fleet

[vale spindle]

It has high intercept damage

[timid solar]

ah ok, i can get it from the lab?

[vale spindle]

If you have pancakes you can use them if you want its just if its only for support fleet then craft the cheapest option

[storm heron]

imo everything is back again to own preference, for people with no musashi everything will not be worth. For me 100 books is nothing since I have 2900 of them. Imo everything there (but the gourmet for players with 12-4 access) is overpriced

[vale spindle]

Ye both fw and skyrockey u get from gear lab

It Use purple mats so very cheap

[storm heron]

skyrockey can also be bought with core datas

or maybe not since purple mats is cheaper than core data

[timid solar]

thanks, the torpedo doesn't matter for support fleet right?

[storm heron]

yes

only AVI, efficiency, and fighters

[undone plover]

should be gold for avi stat

The TB I mean

[storm heron]

presumably they have multiple gold tbs if they dare to challenge w15

[undone plover]

sure I just meant saying it doesnt matter they might just run 0 TB

[storm heron]

yes it matters*

[timid solar]

what plane is indomi using? can I just use skyrocket instead?

[timid solar]

what is TB haha

[vale spindle]

Nope

[viscid swift]

torpedo bomber

[timid solar]

ah ok

[vale spindle]

It matters for avi stat only thats it

[viscid swift]

Fw-190 A5

[timid solar]

is it better than skyrocket?

[viscid swift]

I've honestley heard so many diverging opinions I can't say but they'll work well

[mellow cape]

I don't really see a reason to farm 13-4 if I can't farm for exp at the same time, am I doing something wrong?

[storm heron]

exactly

that's the tradeoff, unless you are levelling guam laffii eld retro at the same time

also the tradeoffs are coins and bunker hill for exp

[timid solar]

does this look good for ch15? i tried the first chapter and it's ok but i have my douby for 15-4

[storm heron]

fleet 3 kinda lacking aa

[civic crag]

Anyone got a shinano build i can sample

[timid solar]

who to change?

[storm heron]

I would swap shinano for indep

just to stagger damage and buff the other fleet

[timid solar]

who is indep again? XD

[storm heron]

jda and sandy might sink though so swap jda and laffii

[civic crag]

should i put a fighter in shinano or not

[storm heron]

and then put jda in the middle

[storm heron]

build depends on content

[civic crag]

for opsi?

[storm heron]

independence

[storm heron]

opsi what? mob? boss? harby?

[civic crag]

boss

[storm heron]

tb/db/tb sync with other carriers and stoppers

[timid solar]

isn't she flimsy af tho? i tried her in ch 13 or 14 but she dies all the time

[storm heron]

she isn't

at least in w15 she is better since she has natural stagger and good fighters

[timid solar]

I'll give it a try if I run into trouble, thanks!!

[storm heron]

also cross fleet buffs

[frank pulsar]

in w13 if shes dying its aa issue, in w14 if shes dying thats lack of intercept, asw or just bad luck
ive never had survivability issues with indep in w15

[ornate narwhal]

Should I get the sr ship of rainbow gear first?

[vale spindle]

aim for both, but the ship is more relevant than the gear

[ornate narwhal]

Is the ship good?

[eternal moth]

She's pretty good

[ornate narwhal]

Better than the gear?

[eternal moth]

I don't use her, and I do occassionally use the gun, but I also have almost every ship

The numbers Mason, what do they mean?

[ornate narwhal]

So she’s good besides for collection?

[viscid swift]

she's DD FP tech

[ornate narwhal]

What’s fp?

[wind hazel]

firepower

[ornate narwhal]

Also could I farm the rainbow equipment later?

[vale spindle]

Only when the event becomes permanent and it's added to a shop

The ship can also be farmed at that time too

[ornate narwhal]

Could it eventually be craftable?

[vale spindle]

Maybe

[ornate narwhal]

Also for musachi this gun isn’t her best?

[vale spindle]

With equipment its basically random on whether its core data or gear lab xd

[vale spindle]

Not really
Its only good in niche cases

[ornate narwhal]

Ok how many more days are in the event? Rn I’m only at 10k

[vale spindle]

Wed night

[eternal moth]

They haven't added any rainbow gear to core data though, so it's more likely to go to gear lab

That said, it probably won't be added for at least a year

[rare wyvern]

Did I miss a good damage CA in there ? Or my rainbow CA gun project is just not worth ?

I could, in fact, develop the Hindenburg

[stark quiver]

a bunch of tech fodder ships here
no ones outstanding
except brennus for one night

[vale spindle]

Kursk is a good damage ca

London
Ibuki

[rare wyvern]

Oathed Ibuki might do the trick then

Rather off-tank, right ?

[vale spindle]

make sure u have ibuki augment

ibuki is offtank or middle yes
If you use oxytorp aux put her middle

[rare wyvern]

Also, is the gun in gear lab just before the rainbow gun decent in the meantime ?

[void garnet]

what does ani mean?

[stark quiver]

ani? anniversary?

[stark quiver]

animated
different from l2d

[void garnet]

the picture is static though

but if i buy it it'll move?

[stark quiver]

uhhh not sure

iirc animated skins have set movements, like jusst moving back and forth for one motion

[wind hazel]

i think that's animated background

we need dedicated skin channel fr

[stark quiver]

i dont know abt skins

[wind hazel]

me too, im talking out of my ass 90% of the time

[stark quiver]

moris right, it means animated background

[bold stream]

Hello all again, is there a place where I can get this? I already bought the event ones.

[plain saffron]

Bg icon+ ANi = animated background

[stark quiver]

craft it

[rare wyvern]

Maybe he means the Augment stones, in which case, I think it's the weekly raid, twice a week

[plain saffron]

Look at event release order

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Events

[abstract ore]

Can someone recommend me nagato meta boss fleet

[rose cosmos]

Is it ok to reduce her if I got her at 6*

[stark quiver]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jz4SSft0mzUIM4x3axrK5MTgZ_I-WG_L/view

[storm heron]

reduce what?

[elfin hollow]

whats the best way to get the game on pc?

[stark quiver]

using emulators, ldplayer and bluestacks are examples

[elfin hollow]

is bluestacks a good one?

[viscid swift]

don't know, don't know

there's no fixed schedule for reruns or ships getting added to the archives

within 2-4 months of what

[stark quiver]

its what a lot of people use

[viscid swift]

I would expect both at the very latest to be in March next year

4 each

yes, yes

[elfin hollow]

any reference for the cost of such skins?

[faint jacinth]

hello guys, what stuff i should be wary on 13-4.

[viscid swift]

it's a non L2D skin so should be 880 gems

roughly

[rose cosmos]

Wakatsuki

[elfin hollow]

is it feasable to obtain that much without spending? im at 300 rn and i see another 150 coming in from a log in event but i cannot find any other sources

[sharp socket]

have you completed w15

and also all your memento gems

[storm heron]

is wakatsuki supposed to be a sauce or something? anyways feel free to retire her if you got her at 6*

[viscid swift]

you can, but I would reccomend against it

you only get a little over 4k reasonably as a f2p plus about an additional 1k anually

[sharp socket]

you should spend your f2p gems on dockspace to be able to play the game somewhat comfortably and only spend on skins with gems that you pay for

[viscid swift]

the bulk is gonna come from 3 starring campaign stages

[elfin hollow]

ah i see thank you

[sharp socket]

also how many gems does CNY event give out usually

[viscid swift]

300

[elfin hollow]

is that going to be during the tlr event?

[sharp socket]

during CNY in feb

[storm heron]

if you are f2p unfortunately you don't have the luxury to have both dock and skins

[elfin hollow]

yeah thats fine, rn im only interested in getting all the yami stuff from the tlr event

[sharp socket]

how does AL do CNY, does it start during a fixed time schedule or follow the actual dates

[elfin hollow]

not dead set on ftp anyways

[rare wyvern]

I've had one single skin from my f2p gems, but it's really tight indeed

Guild dock slots be helpful too

[sharp socket]

i have 1 skin and 4th floor from f2p gems and im still chilling in dockspace, but i cant really buy another l2d skin

[storm heron]

4th floor

[rare wyvern]

I think my best investments were those studying slots

3 tac training at once is nice

[viscid swift]

it's the closest Thursday to the actual celebration

so it varies year to year

[stark quiver]

dont be like me and youll be fine

[storm heron]

dw I don't like you

[sharp socket]

so itll probably start on 30 jan, right on my bday too

[storm heron]

happy cake day!

[sweet schooner]

hello I start the game and idk what banner should I roll in what I should do?

[stark quiver]

go to event banner, use free tickets

[sinful escarp]

go all in on event banner, hope you get lucky and get musashi

[viscid swift]

give that a read and roll on the event banner if you have no interest in the To Love Ru collab
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[sweet schooner]

Ok Ty

[sharp socket]

after you complete w15, what do you build for gameplay wise

[viscid swift]

tech

[sharp socket]

tech for what purpose

meta fight?

[viscid swift]

improving your ships of course, for both current and future content

[elfin hollow]

one of my characters has " low affinity" now? or its lowering? whats that about

[storm heron]

for be able to use 6 level 90 fodders in w12

[sharp socket]

are the devs really going to release a w16 given how hard w15 is

[viscid swift]

you don't need tech for that

[stone sluice]

I focused on 120 tech

[viscid swift]

well presumably eventually yes

they're telling the story of the naval war in the pacific with the campaign and there's at least 2 major events left still in that regard

[storm heron]

wait what w15 was hard?

[bold stream]

These augment stones are so time gated? We earn like 6 (3per run) weekly? Thats it?

[storm heron]

anyways w16 should be at earliest next october

[rare wyvern]

I accumulated them with time, I think weekly quests give them too ?

[storm heron]

yes they are but you don't really use them often

[rare wyvern]

Big question mark actually

[storm heron]

only once in a while

[stone sluice]

Is Yamato included in that story so are we gonna get her released once the story reaches that point?

[zenith heron]

No teaser yet

[stark quiver]

meta fights, harbiter, challenge modes

[viscid swift]

it means your ships morale is low and if they keep sorting you gain half XP

[sharp socket]

oh right theres story in this, so i guess future content prep

[bold stream]

I see... So either I save them for my lv 50ish sandiego or make my sara augment for next week... Tough choice

[viscid swift]

well it's Leyte Gulf and Operation Ten Go

[storm heron]

Was Yamato finished or is it just like Shinano's paper ship?

[stark quiver]

yamato and musashi were both finished
both sunk during ww2

[viscid swift]

anyway, I don't know what exactly the devs have in store for Yamato and the release of any later campaign stages and truthfully I don't care too much on the specifics

[storm heron]

So yamato sprite should be on one of the later stories...

[eternal moth]

She's already been mentioned in stories; theories are that she'll look like Musashi and Shinano, but with blond or red hair. More likely blond, with a red kimono

[stark quiver]

yamato died in an op after leyte gulf/w15

[storm heron]

huh not sure why we haven't seen her but oh wel no use talking about it for now

[brazen oracle]

Currently on my way to make the strongest Noshiro I can make

What great do I pick?

[storm heron]

umm

[viscid swift]

wrong channel?

[cold flint]

we are cooked chat

[eternal moth]

Yamato is, aside from Enterprise and possibly Bismarck, likely the single most well-known ship in WW2. They're saving her for a really special event

[stark quiver]

chat we dont care either

[cold flint]

Oh damn I thought this for other game

[viscid swift]

what's a great

[eternal moth]

Gear

What do you want Noshiro to do?

[storm heron]

[brazen oracle]

autocorrect, dammit
gear*

[sharp socket]

uh rainbows

[brazen oracle]

min-maxing a balance of FP and survivability

[viscid swift]

but anyway yes, what do you want her to do

[eternal moth]

But she's a torp boat that's best at buffing other torp boats

[storm heron]

plygun, improved mag, twin57, washing machine, toolbox

[viscid swift]

yeah that's not gonna quite work out how you think it will

[eternal moth]

Anyway, https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cl?ship=noshiro

[storm heron]

noshiro is a buffer so she is not that simple

oh what double eva noshiro

[viscid swift]

there's 2 extremes, with many inbetween builds
which you use depends on the content and what you can get away with

[storm heron]

rainbow twin57 over prototype

[viscid swift]

what

[sweet delta]

Quint 610 or bust

[sharp socket]

new gun just dropped

[sweet delta]

Actually quint 610 on noshiro is for poor people only

[sharp socket]

full rainbow for the memes

[storm heron]

how does one craft quint 610

[sweet delta]

Get a time machine

[storm heron]

might as well quint 533

[sharp socket]

anyway for gph purpose its kind of a bad idea for full damage cause it doesnt work out in practice on hard stages

[storm heron]

oh wait I thought shima archive means shima gear permanently obtainable

[noble osprey]

Should i focus on leveling commander or does that just naturally happen?

[sharp socket]

if you need to unlock more stuff just farm constantly and youll get there

[storm heron]

it will naturally happens if you just farm the highest level you can

[sharp socket]

lv105 iirc is the highest level to unlock everything gated by cmdr level and more is just flex

[stark quiver]

oil storage

[storm heron]

lv150

[sharp socket]

what the hell is at lv150

[sharp socket]

softcap increase for resources is minor upgrade

very very minor upgrade even, because oil shouldnt be capped if you farm at a normal pace

[storm heron]

still included at everything

[little geyser]

Would this be good on musashi or is it a waste

[storm heron]

[cold flint]

I’m really lacking the equipment for my vanguards

[stark quiver]

lemme specify, mail storage

[storm heron]

kinda okay

[little geyser]

Alright thank you

[sharp socket]

thats somehow even less relevant and only for someone that has never spent oil from his mail for like 6 years

99.99% of people wont encounter a problem with not enough mail oil space such that its not worth mentioning unless it gets asked

[stark quiver]

its commander level gated at max

[viscid swift]

surely not

[stark quiver]

wasnt it up to level 160~ for max storage

[plain saffron]

That's archive

There's also level for the oil/good caps but there's only 1 level ingame

Probably abandoned concepts

[brazen oracle]

oki, thnx

[crude fable]

Is this gun good to research?

[bold stream]

Hello all. How much does it cost Roon to be upgrasable to max?

[forest palm]

Do not do E series research it is bad value

[crude fable]

What's E series?

[forest palm]

Way more than you can hope to farm, just get 10 prints per day at most

[bold stream]

Okay thanks!

[forest palm]

The thing you're asking about

Research that wants gear BPs, or gear boxes are just wasteful

[crude fable]

Uh.. can you give me more example of it?._.

Oh so get the prints?

[forest palm]

/ research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[crude fable]

Oh tysm

[warm condor]

Is it worth chasing this?

[stark quiver]

no

[storm heron]

it's worth chasing what's in the shop though

38k gets you the neccessities

[warm condor]

Alright, thanks

[storm heron]

I knew there was something odd when the post didn't immediately get removed

[umbral wadi]

I need to build a second team

[sharp socket]

where are you in campaign, what is your current fleet and what is your dock look like

[bold stream]

Hello, I know this may sound stupid... But how can I switch my fleet here at siren?

[umbral wadi]

8-1

But I need for event

[vale spindle]

exit this menu
on the top right next to the radar thingy click order -> fleet redeployment

[bold stream]

Thank you!

Good God I was so lost

[brazen oracle]

knowing the existence of New Jersey's beach skin, and Owari's halloween skin

I'm surprised this place has nsfw rules regarding official game art

[vale spindle]

it only works when ur fleet is in a blue port zone
thats the catch

[storm heron]

I think it has to do with discord? idk I'm not the master on this matter

[sharp socket]

the nsfw rules is to prevent loli skins from killing the server because its against their tos

[cold flint]

How good was Washy back in the day tho?

[umbral wadi]

How’s this for a second team?

[brazen oracle]

well, this is a point that actually makes good sense

and further worries me on why AL has such skins for such chars to begin with

[viscid swift]

shit

[plain saffron]

Maint normal time or 1 day earlier?

[umbral wadi]

How would I make it better?

If I put hood and enterprise on it would it be better?

[barren tapir]

because it's a cultured game with a huge japanese fanbase

[barren tapir]

yes these are good ships

[viscid swift]

what do you have to work with exactly

[brazen oracle]

that just makes it worse with the lolicon emphasis

[atomic abyss]

Considering that discord has nuked or at least warned off other official servers for official art that sexualizes what appears to be minors... Yeah...

[umbral wadi]

Is that better?

[barren tapir]

it's pixels, they can't hurt you

[viscid swift]

better but still some dubious choices

[umbral wadi]

If I start a thread can you help me?

[viscid swift]

one, not the place to discuss this
two, frankly I don't care about your opinions on such matters

[brazen oracle]

prison is just a room, it can't be that bad

[atomic abyss]

In any case

[stark quiver]

dont think too much of it, game does what it can to please the fanbase

[umbral wadi]

Fleet 2 help!

[viscid swift]

sure

[atomic abyss]

What the game does and what the discord does is different

[barren tapir]

confusing fiction with reality

[brazen oracle]

aight

[brazen oracle]

I'll take your word on it 👍

[pearl quarry]

I have a question when should I start focusing on building UR?

[viscid swift]

what do you mean by "building UR"

[full musk]

I’m doing sp for the first time does the boss appear after I destroy all the fleet ships

[finite crag]

after you kill enough

[atomic abyss]

7 enemies need to be killed

[bold stream]

Hello all, what happens to the 74/200 i have on musashi?

[finite crag]

gone when event ends

[bold stream]

Oh... Thats sad.

I guess i should only do pulls if I have enough for pity

[junior walrus]

I just started and want to play f2p, but I looked up San Diego and on the tier list I saw she was rated “EX”. Is she really that good

[finite crag]

for urs? just try and pull as much as you can

[atomic abyss]

not without retrofit she isnt

as a new player, ignore the tierlist

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

read this instead

[gray sphinx]

she needs retrofit and her augment but with retrofit she is still pretty good

[finite crag]

URs are always worth it to go all in on

[mellow cape]

This is like one of the most niap games ever, San Diego is really good retrofitted

[finite crag]

even if you shit the bed and dont get them and use up all your pulls you can still get enough cubes if you play daily to pity the next

[junior walrus]

I mean I’ve played a lot of gacha but I want to keep this f2p so just scared of burning resources really

[atomic abyss]

this game is f2p friendly

esp in terms of gacha currency

[finite crag]

this game is about f2p friendly as it gets

[bold stream]

Okay thanks! That makes me feel better

[atomic abyss]

you can collect all ships as an f2p

[mellow cape]

Honestly azure lane is known to be f2p. You just need to devote sometime to it and even with in game gems you can't even earn that much progress

[finite crag]

paying wont even get you far

[junior walrus]

With what I posted anyone specific I should be focusing? I watched a video saying to focus gems on dorm also

[atomic abyss]

like i said read this

[junior walrus]

Oh yeah my b sorry lol

[bold stream]

Yea, oil issue is a big problem for me.. but its like that even for the whole world irl

[finite crag]

if you run out of oil just stop for the day

i usually chill on the farming and save oil if theres a new event coming also

[bold stream]

Yep, just fiddling with sirens since it doesnt cost oil and i dont really know what i am doing there

[viscid swift]

Follow that just use Albion instead of Enterprise

[junior walrus]

This game complicated as hell man I thought it was just a gacha titty game fr

[elfin hollow]

My bad I’m sorry about that,

[barren tapir]

oil stops being an issue when you unlock opsi tbh since between oil and opsi you can play pretty much indefinitely if you want to

[viscid swift]

It's quite nuanced if you so desire

[bold stream]

Btw, i am thinking of using my first augment to sandiego instead of saratoga. Even, though shes still mid 50ish and havent seen much use.

I am just a bit scared of plain maps from what I have read around.

[atomic abyss]

you're not even at the plane maps

why worry

[bold stream]

Yeah, but I have only 15/16 of the currency and can only earn 2 weekly

[barren tapir]

personally id do sara first since you would prolly not be using sandy until she is retrofitted anyway. take your time either way tho, the game's a marathon not a sprint

[viscid swift]

We have an event starting right after this one

[atomic abyss]

you're not gonna use sandy for a long while

[bold stream]

Oh, so sandy needs retro to work even with aug?

[atomic abyss]

[barren tapir]

aug makes her ok pre-retro but yes you want the whole shebang

[atomic abyss]

the point is

[viscid swift]

No, just her augment is serviceable

[atomic abyss]

why get augments for ships you're not even using at the moment

[viscid swift]

But as you just said level 50

[barren tapir]

and only augment ships you're using currently and could use the boost for and have an impactful boost. sara meets these requirements i believe, while sandy wouldnt for you

[vale spindle]

collaboration event

[bold stream]

Hnnn... Okay...

[viscid swift]

Which will all be obtainable without crafting

[barren tapir]

[viscid swift]

I don't think you will even be able to craft them at all

Because the devs really didn't think the supply vs demand through with augment modules so making them all craft only would be a rather cruel thing to do

[bold stream]

Because I think I can clear fine with a weak sara.. but my vanguard really needs a much more desirable AA and fleet plane protection.

I was thinking that this aug currency is super time gated that I might reach plane maps without getting enough for sandy if I craft for sara.

[atomic abyss]

you only need sandy for w13

and the average player will not clear w13 within 6 months

[bold stream]

i am at 9 so still far?

[atomic abyss]

because you would just camp at w12

[viscid swift]

Planes literally don't matter till w12

[bold stream]

Okay. That makes it better.

[viscid swift]

And even in w12 it's not that big a threat

[atomic abyss]

there is very little reason to progress past 12 anyways

you're gonna be sitting there grinding exp, coins etc

[barren tapir]

also sara is pretty good in w13 too, killing enemies faster = less planes damage you

[storm heron]

[barren tapir]

excellent staggered damage for mob

[atomic abyss]

unironically

yes

sara is really useful for w13

cos she deals with repair ships and especially command ships well

[barren tapir]

she's saraT0ga for a reason

[viscid swift]

I reiterate, not that big a threat

[bold stream]

Okay. Thank you all!

So, feeling I get is that I am not even at midgame even if my ships are approaching 100?

[atomic abyss]

you're in very early game lol

mid game is like w12

[cobalt rapids]

mid game is when u have 2 fleets of lv120s, w12 cleared and ure clearing arbi in opsi

[barren tapir]

i don't have that many 120s yet (i have 7 120s and 3 125s)

[bold stream]

Okay thank you all again! I am gonna commit to saratoga after I get my final piece of currency augment

[cobalt rapids]

that shrimply means ure not at midgame yet

[barren tapir]

it's cos ive been farming fleet tech for research ships

why the face, i've finished w12 and do everything in opsi besides harby relatively easily

[cobalt rapids]

if u can do all except harby with ease then its fine
ideally u dont leave ships half finished through 120 because it would be a shame to miss on that extra tech when ure that close and lv 120 is considered the baseline lvl for a ship to be usable in content besides xp farm

[barren tapir]

yeah i just wanted to get started on anchorage

[umbral briar]

ask is it UR or DR that can reach level 100 without MLB?

[cobalt rapids]

both, + META and any Research

[cursive lark]

hey guys, who should I lb first?

[umbral briar]

Meta too? thanks for info

[cobalt rapids]

soyuz

also dont partially lb ships

like laffey coz i know u didnt use dupes for that one

[cursive lark]

isn't musashi good?

[atomic abyss]

all URs are good

[frozen inlet]

is it better to farm c2 or 9-4 for gold?

[atomic abyss]

the fact is that your soyuz is already 5*

so MLB-ing her will bring more benefit than partially limit breaking musashi

[barren tapir]

9-4 if you finished everything important in the event

[cursive lark]

I can make 6 more bulins I think

[sweet delta]

ok doggo but what filter did you use for that screenshot?

[cursive lark]

the UR filter?

[sweet delta]

no guam, mog, alsace, Vanguard, Uvh, shinano?

[cursive lark]

missed them I think

[sweet delta]

interesting

[umbral briar]

ask, Between Yorktown II and Amagi CV which is better for Bossing or Mobbing, especially for various types of armor

[reef flume]

Yorktown is light oriented. CVmagi is heavy oriented

[atomic abyss]

both can work in either boss or mob, but they're both better on bossing

in any actually difficult content (w14/15), they will find difficulty to be used over other mobbing CVs

[storm heron]

are USS Carriers really the best against light?

[atomic abyss]

they are

[umbral briar]

If I want to make it in the same Fleet with anyone else, who would it be better for me to bring?

[reef flume]

Ye

[atomic abyss]

or well, yorktown 2 specifically is the best for light and med

[crimson glacier]

does it even matter when all UR CVs beat all armor pretty easily anyway

[atomic abyss]

well, it depends who "anyone else"

if one of your anyone else is a sakura CV, then amagi would be better cos she'd buff her

[umbral briar]

Let's just say I have all the URs, even though some aren't MLB yet

[atomic abyss]

if one of your anyone else is an essex or yorktown class

then yorktown 2 would be better

if this is for w15, then yorktown 2 would be better since more fighter cover

[umbral briar]

its for boss Fleet right?

[atomic abyss]

yes

just to note that

yorktown 2's best gear arent as easily accessible

[umbral briar]

and last one question this

[atomic abyss]

we'd need to see all your URs, MLB and otherwise to make the suggestion on who to prio

[umbral briar]

just Amagi CV not MLB ,others are vanguards, like Mog

[storm heron]

do they give out skyraider at reruns?

[frank pulsar]

itll prob rerun tgt with york2 yea

[storm heron]

doesn't that mean you have 2 skyraiders?

so I'm stuck with 1 until who-knows-when?

[atomic abyss]

yes... and?

you likely wont use more than 1 skyraider tho

[storm heron]

[atomic abyss]

you'd only use more than 1 skyraider if you were forcibly running sakura CVs against light

[south sequoia]

It's not that likely u'd use more than 1, another in the mix either means we have to calculate all new timings or not include it at all since it still has its flaw of being slow

[atomic abyss]

like think about it

kear yk2 would include either nakhi or impla
neither use DBs

[storm heron]

[pale wing]

Err, guys, how's the build?

[atomic abyss]

as for sakura, haku/nano would use it, amagi wouldnt, and impla/nakhi wouldnt

[south sequoia]

Bad

[atomic abyss]

i feel bad for saying this but

[south sequoia]

Also dont use 460m

[atomic abyss]

the only thing passable here is the autoloader

[south sequoia]

Told you this yesterday

[pale wing]

Erm...
Kinda hard to get these without sacrificing those EXP

[atomic abyss]

the rainbow 460 is just... bad

[south sequoia]

Twin 410m

[storm heron]

pr1?

[pale wing]

Those Exps up to Pr7

[atomic abyss]

use the purple twin 410mm

[south sequoia]

Yes, the purple gun.

[atomic abyss]

you're given that gun for free even

[storm heron]

pardon?

[pale wing]

I already spendba lotta money into that

[barren tapir]

you are? i know you get an mk6 for free but idk about a 410

[south sequoia]

Rarity isn't always everything, some purples are better than golds

[atomic abyss]

i mean, too bad, it's just, not good for 99% of use cases

[pale wing]

Forgot to mention i have that

[storm heron]

have what

[barren tapir]

anyway open some ijn tech box to get it if you don't have

[atomic abyss]

use purple

[storm heron]

the purple version!!!!!

[barren tapir]

bad idea to post the gun pic now they will use beehive

[pale wing]

I'm too drained

[pale wing]

The Sanshikidan?

[barren tapir]

(do NOT use it)

[atomic abyss]

Don't use that, use the purple one

[pale wing]

Yet, i was going to replace that one augment beside autoloader with Type 1 AP

[storm heron]

do not use this

[tame jungle]

Use the PURPLE twin 410

[atomic abyss]

use this

[pale wing]

I do have it, actually

[atomic abyss]

yes

that is better than that rainbow gun on musashi

[pale wing]

The 46cm/45 Type 94 Naval Gun?

[barren tapir]

twin 410mm naval gun mount

[atomic abyss]

use this purple gun, ignore the 460mm

[barren tapir]

that

[pale wing]

Hold on
What about Type 1 AP Shell?

[pale wing]

Should i get Type 1 AP shell tho?

[rain bobcat]

yes

[storm heron]

the white pencil

[rain bobcat]

I don't see how it's related to the gun question though

[barren tapir]

white crayon (vanilla flavored)

[sweet delta]

are you, by any chance, aware that she only needs ONE (1) piece of Sakura Empire gear for the other skill? Which is satisfied by the main gun already?

[forest palm]

just go next

[spare mango]

Are there any good gears other than La9 and Seaplane in PR7?

[wind hazel]

vit2

[forest palm]

Seaplane ain't even good, it's just the Mode Change VIT-2, La-9, and the 410

[sweet delta]

I wouldn't call the seaplane good, but there is vit2 actually good, and the BB gun is good for Musashi

[spare mango]

What about the cl & ca gun?

[forest palm]

existing options make them mid

[sweet delta]

Good against medium but still worse than rainbows

[spare mango]

Huh which rainbow?

[forest palm]

Triple 234, Proto 203 SKC, and Quad 152

[wind hazel]

which to pick

[cobalt rapids]

E2h

[wind hazel]

i trust you

[storm heron]

aka drakegun hindengun plygun

[cobalt rapids]

thank you for your trust

[storm heron]

E2h lowkey good

[forest palm]

I honestly can't be bothered to remember guns by the ships anymore

[spare mango]

Ah okay thx m8

[storm heron]

it's so annoying, when I came here everyone was talking guns by the ship name, and then suddenly everyone changes to numbers

[forest palm]

that's how they literally appear in game, though I don't think anyone will immediately know what a DP 17 is

[storm heron]

it's 17 dp

[crimson glacier]

and theres like 40 203s so

sometimes by ship its just more clear

[forest palm]

and people sometimes just don't know that information as well

[storm heron]

and then there's bfg

[quartz jungle]

Imma guess, Seattle gun?

[forest palm]

yes

[sweet delta]

Theres only one CL rainbow gun, and for the CA gun it's beaten by all three rainbow CA guns at medium. It's only better than Unzen gun against heavy (but so are a lot of other gold CA guns)

[quartz jungle]

[forest palm]

whether by designated in game name, or their ships name, it's going to be confusing either way, and won't be immediately clear to all, so there's no real, "win"

[crimson glacier]

by ship name theres a clear pattern usually

[forest palm]

ya if you have the foreknowledge

[crimson glacier]

and they will have that eventually

[storm heron]

georgia gun is rainbow and fdg gun is gold

[forest palm]

like I said it won't be immediately clear

pointless argument

[storm heron]

I guess it's easier to search gun by the numbers

[forest palm]

with the wiki ya it can be

like I can just say 406 mle 1938, and that's clear enough

[crimson glacier]

and thats also only useful if you know it or have wiki open so its just as pointless

[forest palm]

google exists

[storm heron]

ehh I just use ddg

[crimson glacier]

both work just fine with google

[forest palm]

nope

[quartz jungle]

I pretty sure if you search "azur lane champagne gun" you get champagne rather than the 406mm mle

[crimson glacier]

huh really

[plain saffron]

Azur lane 406mm

[forest palm]

and that's based on your search results

[crimson glacier]

i literally used "azur lane champagne gun"

[forest palm]

or at least your personal data

[plain saffron]

But gph said youtube bad so I can't refer that

[storm heron]

same result as me nvm I don't get the video

[quartz jungle]

Videos don't appear the first thing

[forest palm]

was about to say

[crimson glacier]

and that matters how?

[barren tapir]

youtube bad

[quartz jungle]

There are like 3 different search results how is someone supposed to know which video

[forest palm]

also it's a Quyet video too...

[quartz jungle]

The only semi-consistent one is the Reddit result lol

[crimson glacier]

and how does it matters whos video it is? why are we moving the goalpost

[barren tapir]

need some help here

[quartz jungle]

It doesn't appear immediately, and it isn't clear which video is the one

[storm heron]

what help?

[barren tapir]

incognito

[storm heron]

just claim weekly, or buy using the opsi vouchers

it's not that hard

[quartz jungle]

Compare to searching "azur lane 406 mle" and it is the first one that comes up

[barren tapir]

i was quoting the reddit result also whaddaya talkin about xd

[storm heron]

nvm ignore me

[forest palm]

ya see this is much clearer

[plain saffron]

Just ask AI

[crimson glacier]

only thing i see is that this seems to be sensitive topic around here

[storm heron]

so there will finally be a convention?

[quartz jungle]

there's even the fandom page lol

[storm heron]

just to note I started the discussion

[plain saffron]

What convention

[forest palm]

or, just maybe you want to be right

[crimson glacier]

i mean i was right all along so thats pointless thing to say

[storm heron]

like from now on, we refer weapon by the numbers

[plain saffron]

No

You should use 406mm gun
Goodluck

[quartz jungle]

"Gun diameter (mm)" "nation designation" (aka mle, skc, mk 24) works 95% of the time

[shell willow]

he meant wiki db id numbers

[plain saffron]

Use 40013 instead

[quartz jungle]

Tbh I think that is 100% harder to remember lol

[plain saffron]

Use what other people use, ez

[storm heron]

what about the prototype?

[quartz jungle]

OTOH, 100% consistent

[quartz jungle]

457 Mark A

I think you can even type in "azur lane 457" and it works

[plain saffron]

Is there 406mm mk6 and prototype 406mm mk6

[quartz jungle]

Until we get Conqueror or something

[tame jungle]

Conq has 419s

[storm heron]

the different between wiki and in-game names

why is it?

[quartz jungle]

Sorry Thunderer yeah

[storm heron]

is it because the weapon names in chinese are different?

[forest palm]

English Localization gets a touch messy with thing

however something like the Prototype 203 SKC in itself is practically the same across all languages

[crimson glacier]

now if only we didnt have 2 of those

[forest palm]

except one is SKC, and the other is MLE so kind of moot

[crimson glacier]

roon gun and hinden are both proto triple 203 skc

[forest palm]

yes, but it's C/34

[crimson glacier]

and ppl will mix that up

[fiery pelican]

how do I get more of these? Always lacking, I play the game everyday

[wind hazel]

holy, it's that time again

[wind hazel]

open tech box, scrap them

[cobalt rapids]

buy in medal, open boxes

[crimson glacier]

yep, taz was even agreeing with me before i came here

[fiery pelican]

Ah okay, grey boxes?

[forest palm]

fuck you on about lol

[cobalt rapids]

blue boxes or purple boxes

[crimson glacier]

i mean the dp17 thing

[storm heron]

play more, the need for those is basically like
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|
| \

[forest palm]

because that's what I internally tell myself, otherwise I would simply say 152 MK17 DP

[storm heron]

your white plate spending will be close to 0 at a certain point

[pallid robin]

as a new player, I am more into this than names I still do not know off

[cobalt rapids]

people will just use what they like regardless what r u guys arguing about lol

[fiery pelican]

I don't have any +13 but I can't even enhance aux to +10 because I don't have enough grey mats lol

[crimson glacier]

sometimes one is better other times the other its not a big deal either way

except appearantly it is for some

[forest palm]

I literally said that you lout

[wind hazel]

dad mom don't fight

[crimson glacier]

i mean it was literally the first thing i said so

[barren tapir]

how does this even happen

[storm heron]

mori vs skylion is not even this intense

[crimson glacier]

research eats greys

[cursive lark]

happens to me too

[fiery pelican]

Ah maybe research

[crimson glacier]

you see the thing is that skylion is pretty clueless about the game

[fiery pelican]

I have 2k purple and blue but always lacking in grey lmao

[barren tapir]

if you farm in ch12 or lower you will get gray plate

[pallid robin]

is this the best CL gun for her?

[forest palm]

far from it that build is purely for the poor

[storm heron]

or berke vs celerio

[fiery pelican]

I rarely farm main story unless I need to spend oil

[barren tapir]

will it happen to me in the future

[fiery pelican]

I'll try to open boxes then

[storm heron]

the point is you will not need them beyond a certain point

[crimson glacier]

gotta farm more w12 and less 13+

[cobalt rapids]

not if u stay forever in w12

[storm heron]

so just cherish the struggle

[quartz jungle]

open purple tech packs and scrap until no more shortage, easy

[barren tapir]

but you need to spend oil every day

[fiery pelican]

I'm planning to get another wyvern but I can't even enhance it hahaha

[crimson glacier]

pack opening is hell

[forest palm]

I don't struggle with gray plates, yet at least

[fiery pelican]

Only to clear dailies

[wind hazel]

opening box isn't that bad on emulator

[storm heron]

even in 5 fps?

[barren tapir]

i mean spend it so you don't overcap and jam your canteen

[tame jungle]

Mori can i hire you to open all my tech boxes manually 1 by 1

[wind hazel]

5fps?

[barren tapir]

is there a way to mass dismantle after opening box tho? i havent figured it out yet

[wind hazel]

yuki is watching from the shadow so im obligated to say that is against TOS sir, very bad

[quartz jungle]

Well 10 by 10

[wind hazel]

no, gotta click lul, treat it as osu practice

[tame jungle]

No we will just do teamviewer you will not have access to my account

[barren tapir]

i shall endeavor to never be in a gray plate situation then...

[storm heron]

that's mass cleave...

[fiery pelican]

Is there an updated guide on gearing ships? or just use the tier list guide

[quartz jungle]

Equip everything onto your ships, then scrap your whole storage

[barren tapir]

time to grind 2-1

[storm heron]

what about building a physical robot to press buttons?

[quartz jungle]

ban from using macro

[cobalt rapids]

try it

[gilded carbon]

Time to Farm 2-4. I need a Rodney for the Special aux she gives at some Point.
Is that one just worth on Nelson? Or is it more for collection

[barren tapir]

nelson aux is very gud for nelson yes, if not using nelson it's just collection

[cobalt rapids]

for nelson or placeholder till shells

[storm heron]

it is more for collection, the flag is worth on nelson yes but it is likely worse than white shell everywhere else

[gilded carbon]

I just started to refit Nelson.

[barren tapir]

nah it's better to get her barrage to 100% and 15% acc/fp asap imo (plus it technically protects your tank for 6 seconds)

[storm heron]

why farm 2-4?

[tame jungle]

You can also farm rodney on 10-3 probably a better use of your time if you can do it

[gilded carbon]

She will have to fight Marco for a Spot, though

[barren tapir]

ohhh ok u werent finished ignore me

[tame jungle]

If you’re not there yet forget i said anything

[gilded carbon]

Because that one was the node i knew she dropped from

[crimson glacier]

you already have maxed marco?

[storm heron]

5-4?

[barren tapir]

50 fp 20 hit, 59/26 at +13, white shell is 55 fp 15 hit, 67/18 at +13

they're probably interchangeable actually, with nelson being better on high eva bosses

[gilded carbon]

Just 3*-ed 10-3 and 10-4 Yesterday

[tame jungle]

Then do 10-3

[storm heron]

but +20% cdmg

[barren tapir]

oh yeah i forgot the cdmg

[gilded carbon]

Her skills are in Progress. Max Fate-sim though

[crimson glacier]

then that nelson is just garbage compared to her

[barren tapir]

still it serves fine as a white shell placeholder until you got everyone equipped

[storm heron]

marco max fs

[barren tapir]

is marco gud

[crimson glacier]

very good for gold

[forest palm]

like a step below FdG

[storm heron]

the only thing that hurts macro is the inconsistency

[fiery pelican]

Is this okay? I mean her gear, or it's better to use her UR gun?

[barren tapir]

[gilded carbon]

But i dont have the coins to max FdG quickly right now

[crimson glacier]

that gun is better than UR almost always

[fiery pelican]

ok thx tier list

[storm heron]

ehh

[forest palm]

for just leveling that works

[crimson glacier]

why are you looking at w15 boss

[wind hazel]

what list is that

[fiery pelican]

Where is UR Amagi good at? Mob or boss?

[wind hazel]

link

[crimson glacier]

clearly some very useful list if it says that marco bad 🙂

[forest palm]

both

[storm heron]

oh I ctrl F the thing

[wind hazel]

i wanna see mutsuki placement

[storm heron]

no I mean command F

[barren tapir]

wat even is this and isnt this assuming u have every ship available to u with maxed everything

[cobalt rapids]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[coarse heron]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=1103568803#gid=1103568803 it's this one

[plain saffron]

And it's assuming w15

[forest palm]

good ol days of Lv 1 mutsuki cheese

[frank pulsar]

marco polo is one of the best gold bbs still for mobbing, but youll never use her since shes a gold bb

[storm heron]

marco polo is probably a step over fusou

[barren tapir]

am i right in saying that list assumes you have all the URs not very helpful if you're looking for what non-URs to use until you have URs imo

[crimson glacier]

we do?

[plain saffron]

The one he send is using w15 filter

[storm heron]

you mean w15 sort?

[plain saffron]

Yeah sort

[frank pulsar]

also ive never heard of this doc in my life

[cobalt rapids]

why does that matter, u can see all ratings

[barren tapir]

there is no way this is accurate

[coarse heron]

sorting by, not filtering

[plain saffron]

Ouh right. So she's bad in all thing

[storm heron]

lol it's so funny when I they say marco polo one step below fdg, then it's more like one step above fusou in the tierlist

[gilded carbon]

I will use her regardless

[fiery pelican]

How do I kill this boss?

[frank pulsar]

its end game tierlist, just ignore in your case

[crimson glacier]

😂 👌

[barren tapir]

what im more interested in, for my case, is how marco would compare to nagato meta and ruppy (latter cos she's cute and im getting her regardless) for general mobfleet flag

[crimson glacier]

remember when marco was the best gold flag ship in the game for w14 mob

[storm heron]

I think the reason it is skewed

[crimson glacier]

yeah thats a C

[storm heron]

is because it is endgame, so the graph is not linear

[crimson glacier]

so every non UR is dogshit tier? so useful

[barren tapir]

i guess it's useful to the top 1% of players only

[frank pulsar]

in the context of endgame nobody uses mp tbf

[storm heron]

and top 10% of ships