it's so both new and established players can obtain those rewards 
#gameplay-help
barren tapir
boreal wagon
that too yeah
bold stream
I am a new player so was did was from A, B then C but cant run D because of level requirements
bold stream
if you can do D-1 and farm it that would be massive fyi
Okay! I will try later. How many mobs before the boss spawns there?
barren tapir
5
bold stream
Thanks.
bold stream
if you can do D-1 and farm it that would be massive fyi
The requirements is really harsh. I need avg lv 90 and I need two DDs. Outside of z23, my next high level DD is only 50ish and is a normal rarity.
white agate
what do you usually buy with your excess opsi voucher?
i usually go for gold or combact efficency plans
cobalt rapids
i just let em stack
opal stirrup
guy are there any BB with low oil cost and fine power if not is there any recommed BB that are easy to build? high oil cost is okay
cobalt rapids
whats the oil metric for
white agate
oil cost does not matter once you enter oil cap zone after w9
cobalt rapids
erebus and terror are cheapest for lowcost intial clears in event stages or lowcost farming event pts but ure better of using a common cvl because its cheaper
and for pushing content or farming oilcapped maps ignore oilcost
opal stirrup
oil cost does not matter once you enter oil cap zone after w9
I'm farming 8-4 try to grind for Maya
little geyser
dont its not worth it imo
opal stirrup
worth it or not isn't matter, if that the shipgirl that you want, Just like I've do the same for Kaga and Akagi
little geyser
fair enough
opal stirrup
whole crypt
or you could come back for it later wiht something more efficient, just saying, it's not even necessarily slower if RNG wants to mess with you
opal stirrup
Hey guy is Daisen worth it to develop??
cobalt rapids
shes good but shes gold so that means she gets sidelined by rainbows
chrome lake
Hi guys new to the game and just want to know a good setup and who to focus.
late flame
you might want to keep the part about account private since account sharing is against tos
tame jungle
If he gave the account to him it’s not sharing
inland shoal
It's still against TOS
chrome lake
Ohh I don't know about that sorry.
barren tapir
I'm farming 8-4 try to grind for Maya
just use uni + any decent dd(g) 
afaik suicide bote not too big an issue yet in w8
late flame
imo forget about maya until dead week since you'd be better off farming event
barren tapir
that too ^ use ded weeks for farming collection
cobalt rapids
riche unicorn indep - fargo allen pitts to push event stages and w9
ur first mlb prio would be musashi for UR bulins
inland shoal
Hm even with Amagi being closer? Ig she's good enough for campaign
cobalt rapids
i would do either musashi or alsace before amagi even if shes 1 lb ahead
they would drag progresson faster ahead imo
inland shoal
Yes I meant ig Sushi is good enough at campaign to overcome the diff
cobalt rapids
i thought u meant amagi 
barren tapir
i agree, cos they have uni and indep already/almost ready for cvs but no really good bb so i feel musashi is a higher prio
inland shoal
Ye I noticed that I wasn't very clear there after you answered 
cinder hornet
is Hood obtainable through the Medal shop? I don't see her
cobalt rapids
if theres a BB hull on rotation yes
frank pulsar
your server might not have her available this month
medal shop rotates amongst hull types at the start of each month
cinder hornet
oh, so sometimes it's there sometimes it isn't, gotcha, thanks 🙇♂️
fallow sedge
How hard is violet event final boss
cobalt rapids
harder than the 6s?
no because u can go back in ports and heal and continue where u left off
cobalt rapids
How hard is violet event final boss
which stage is that
eager mulch
fallow sedge
Good royal navy starter?
tame jungle
Obligatory “faction fleet bad”
cobalt rapids
Avoid faction fleet
blissful hamlet
Good royal navy starter?
That fleet is ok but you should avoid faction fleet
fallow sedge
Ye itz just a fun 2nd account fleet
cinder hornet
what's faction fleet?
tame jungle
A fleet consisting of ships all belonging to the same faction (country)
frank pulsar
Good royal navy starter?
belfast tank over london, dont be like me 
keen comet
belfast tank over london, dont be like me <:EssexWheeze:1113921620277461033>
Really ?
keen comet
I didn't know that
tall saddle
Are the suggested loadouts from the game trustworthy? EN's github list hasn't been updated for 3 months now so I need some alternatives.
tame jungle
Go do /equip in #bot-spam
Furthermore CV loadouts are dependent on content and how you want your CVs to sync with each others if applicable
late flame
ngl i almost spat out my drink looking at that loadout
frank pulsar
usually no, learning plane use cases instead is prob a better idea
most people who play this game dont know how to play the game properly so...
late flame
and then there are trolls
quartz jungle
that 2nd one is just yikes
Yeah it's trolling, 2nd one onwards is sorted by new
tall saddle
I was about to follow the loadout of the 1st one. It has 23 thumbs up or something. I assume that loadout is shit?
viscid swift
it's not bad
soft raft
for one, it would be pretty unoptimal in campaign due to a lack of fighters
And for content where you can get away with no fighters, there's still a concern of timing the reloads, which can vary person to person based off of their plane selection and RLD tech
viscid swift
but at the same it isn't the optimal loadout for heavy armor bosses
quartz jungle
The campaign loadout is basically the third one
quartz jungle
but at the same it isn't the optimal loadout for heavy armor bosses
Yeah it's too fast
Unless you are trying to sync with Ark Royal with Suisei 12A/Helena proc
soft raft
do we have a event pt milestone ship for the collab?
If so, who is it?
boreal wagon
Kotegawa Yui
soft raft
eager mulch
stark quiver
What firing time would I want my cvs to be at in Arizona meta
atomic abyss
What firing time would I want my cvs to be at in Arizona meta
doesnt matter unless you intend to use mog
stark quiver
Aren’t there times where’s she stops
atomic abyss
yes
stops during first airstrike window and 3rd airstrike window
only moves during 2nd
viscid swift
you can just copy set up for Nagato
cobalt rapids
Aren’t there times where’s she stops
Didnt i give them to u yesterday
stark quiver
Didnt i give them to u yesterday <:percystare:1297608100421042439>
Oh yea 
Bad memory
bold stream
hello all, I need another DD to level and fulfill the requirement. Should I go Laffey here? or the SSR wakatsuki from event shop?
viscid swift
you don't need to meet all the requirements
just one in the main fleet and one in the vanguard is enough
you're average ship level is what needs fixing right now
turbid shell
do Static Skin Voucher count as buying skin for Akashi Fire Sale?
bold stream
you're average ship level is what needs fixing right now
Oh! So I dont need to lvl a new dd I just need to get avg 90!?
bold stream
Yeah, my second team is very weak
Btw...
I have 3 now... Wait for 1 more or MLB hutten?
viscid swift
wait for one more and max limit break Musashi
bold stream
Okay thanks!
boreal wagon
do Static Skin Voucher count as buying skin for Akashi Fire Sale?
according to the patch notes they gave it does
elfin hollow
Musashi good?
eager mulch
UR good
elfin hollow
havent had a chance to look
forest palm
currently 1 of 5 highly desirable UR BB 
elfin hollow
ran out of gold
native trail
What's the website that shows builds for characters?
forest palm
native trail
Ty
opaque gate
why tf does musashi have an oath alr while others dont
viscid swift
ask the devs
opaque gate
who is arguably the strongest/best UR in terms of overall capabilities (damage/support)?
soft raft
the UR BBs are all in a competition with eachother and all the UR CVs are relatively set in their own sepreate niches with barely much overlap
There's really no good way to quantify it than just "Gacha UR Good"
opaque gate
okok ty, cuz i heard UVH is kind of meh, so there might be a tier thingy
atomic abyss
there are "worse" amongst the best yes
uvh, nj, fdg arent as strong as the other UR BBs
but out of the best of the best, they are in competition with one another
opaque gate
the best of the best being who?
atomic abyss
soyuz, alsace, bismarck 2, vanguard for BBs
like blaster said, they're all in competition with each other
opaque gate
oww, i thought musashi will be part of it
atomic abyss
musashi has her own niche completely separate from them
soft raft
oww, i thought musashi will be part of it
She used to be
then Soyuz and BisZwei happened
Nowadays she's removed form most top BB comps (Mostly due to the fact that her main gun options arent as flexible) but she's still got her niche as the top mobbing BB
tender lotus
What's the best way to increase affinity after reaching 90?
atomic abyss
use the ships in battle
opaque gate
i see, thanks
soft raft
What's the best way to increase affinity after reaching 90?
you just gotta grind grind grind
eternal moth
She used to be
then Soyuz and BisZwei happened
Nowadays she's removed form most...
Does the PR7 gun make her any better?
soft raft
Does the PR7 gun make her any better?
doesnt help her lack of a HE gun that can sync with Helena
atomic abyss
it's a slight upgrade to the izumo gun but ^
tender lotus
Any stage recommendations to grind affinity?
tender lotus
Ah yeah the event
desert silo
wary timber
Cheshire worth unlocking ?
wary timber
is she a good CA
eager mulch
she is in the upper half of CAs
wanton dawn
is buying prints in event shop a gd idea?
stone sluice
Any stage recommendations to grind affinity?
Have a good setup for the ship you want to grind her affinity. She gets twice the affinity every time she is the mvp
wanton dawn
tyty
whole crypt
Have a good setup for the ship you want to grind her affinity. She gets twice th...
if it's a meh ship then MVP control is meh as well
spring bolt
last tempesta event t5 is a good example, 20 oil cap for mob
whole crypt
Have a good setup for the ship you want to grind her affinity. She gets twice th...
you should have a good setup for the ship regardless of whether you're grinding affinity for her anyway
vagrant harness
is there a way to search your created threads? like, from months ago?
torpid ravine
Can someone tell me, how i can lvl up my new ships fast?
inner delta
the exp book
torpid ravine
exp. book can i get in the lecture hall?
i am not lvl 50 and cant get many of them until now
inner delta
uh then fastest is just use them in battle
torpid ravine
thank you very much
jaunty dawn
I started like a week ago and was wondering if my team comp is good or if I need changes
eternal moth
Musashi isn't worth it until you can max limit break her
noble osprey
Guys is it worth it to farm D3 of the current event? Instead of farming 11-4, its the highest lvl im at right now.
eternal moth
Actually, at your level you shouldn't be using ANYONE who isn't MLB
soft raft
I started like a week ago and was wondering if my team comp is good or if I need...
wayyyyyyyyy too many SRs
Give this a read asap https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
eternal moth
If you don't have enough gold bulins, use purple ships
jaunty dawn
Actually, at your level you shouldn't be using ANYONE who isn't MLB
What’s mlb
soft raft
max limit break
IE Full stars
jaunty dawn
Ahh
soft raft
a ship has alot of their stats and mounts locked behind limit break levels so they're extremely important
jaunty dawn
Ty
soft raft
for example, a non MLB BB is doing like 1/3rd of the damage they would at MLB since some of their gun mounts are locked behind LB lvls
eternal moth
As an example, here's what you unlock on Musashi as you limit break her
jaunty dawn
As an example, here's what you unlock on Musashi as you limit break her
Ahh so I just need to use bulins on them
eternal moth
Not as important for you right now, but will be as you gain more ships, they also don't benefit from fleet tech until max limit broken
crimson glacier
and note that spreading bulins is really really really bad idea
soft raft
anyways go read that guide I linked earlier
jaunty dawn
When do I use them then
eternal moth
Yes, but you need specific bulins for different rarities. Purple and below use purple, gold uses gold, and rainbow uses rainbow
jaunty dawn
Ok Ty I’ll make sure to read the guide
The guide said yt guides are bad I’ve been using them for help 💀
soft raft
they're bad for a reason
wouldnt be surprised if that's why your fleet is like that
jaunty dawn
😂
eternal moth
This is the typical fleet we recommend to new players because they're all easy to get and require minimal investment. Pennsylvania/Long Island/Unicorn/Portland/starter/Helena
They're all purple and below because purple bulins are much easier to get, and the ships are strong enough to get you through the majority of content
Golds aren't necessarily better, although Musashi will be in most of your fleets going forward once you're able to get her maxed out
noble osprey
Guys should i farm D3 of this current event over farming 11-4? What does D3 give thats special?
astral turret
Is there a date yet for the collab event? Or is it right after this one ends
soft raft
right after this event
streams for events like URs or collabs often happen the week before the event itself goes live
eternal moth
Next Thursday
rare wyvern
Outside the passive effect, would this be good on a CB with decent damage like Ägir ?
Also, is there much enemies that have enough EVA to meaningfully dodge a lot of Vanguard shots ?
sweet delta
No, yes
rare wyvern
Okay, so hit is cool on the vanguard, understood
sweet delta
1 hit is about as cool as 1 fp for CA/CB generally against endgame bosses
Aegir would benefit more from hit if you're relying on her slow
rare wyvern
Also I saw a lot of loadouts advised for BBs including the Type 1 shell (the white one), is the SH (black one) just outright not as good ?
inner delta
it's the same reason, hit for your bb is good
unless you are fighting enemy with actual 0 eva or stuff
soft raft
White shell has FP + HIT
SHS only has FP
Which means that when HSFCR/AFCT enters the equation, it's easy to ditch the SHS so you can get a bit more hit in with the timing auxes
left cedar
kinda againts Enemies BBs isnt a problem swap FP stats for HIT, since they eva so low that almost not gona miss it ...
w8, i should be HIT for FP, right?
hollow gust
Hit is biggest priority for both BB and CVs
left cedar
againts enemies with 20 or lower isnt gona be a concern ... and HPFCR/AFCT should cover the lacks if needed
sweet delta
bosses with 20 or lower eva dont exist in endgame
tame fog
How strong is neptune's augment?
sweet delta
huge improvement to a bad-mid ship, making a high-end gold CL
tame fog
Pog
jaunty pecan
getting the 2nd copy of the rainbow gun from event shop is worth?
inner delta
ofc, it's a unique gun still
left cedar
worth it to
and who knows in a future a niche content can be real, so 2 can be a thing
tame jungle
It’s very much a case of i’d rather have it and not need it than the other way around
mellow cape
I took about a year hiatus, what have I missed out on? I see pr7
Currently working on that
sweet delta
/wiki recent news
odd rootBOT
Bridal Z23
thorn tartan
what's the Trophy Rule
inner delta
posting pulls on 1st week goes to #trophy-room
thorn tartan
this is only a one-week event right?
inner delta
yes
full nacelle
Do i really gotta beat a stage at least 2 times or am i doing something wrong?
soft raft
Musashi event originally ran before they made the switch to 1 run to 100% clear a event stage so yes
full nacelle
Yes i am messing up?
Or yes i need to do stage 2 times?
soft raft
the latter
full nacelle
Thanks
vestal thistle
How to gear musashi
vestal thistle
Will I be able to get to pity in time?
You can yes
But you might need to do some non event stages
Or have luck with commissions
little geyser
wdyum?
little geyser
oh thats what you meant
autumn osprey
May I know why the safe-to-scrap webpage is Not Found?
little geyser
Did you complete all chapters?
no i still need some
tame jungle
Pretty sure it’s on someone’s userpage
Which is why it doesn’t show up
You can check /equip in botspam channel it should be there
vestal thistle
no i still need some
Good luck
vestal thistle
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home?ship=musashi
Thank you
stark quiver
How to gear musashi
Ijn main gun, Plymouth gun , staag, white shell, fcr/black shell
barren tapir
Will I be able to get to pity in time?
you need 22 pulls, assuming you got every ticket you could already, youll need 18 pulls with cubes or 36 cubes,
4 cubes a day -> 16
next week cubes -> 12
daily login day 20(? i dont recall exactly) -> 9
you will be fine
eager mulch
there is no next week
stark quiver
Reruns are a week bud
barren tapir
wdym no next week? there is a monday before the event ends
stark quiver
Well I guess lol
full nacelle
Bruh why this had to end on the 20th
I will get money only on the 21st
little geyser
you need 22 pulls, assuming you got every ticket you could already, youll need 1...
i can also get cubesd from clearing ch 12 right?
barren tapir
you guys do know weekly missions reset on monday start right?
stark quiver
Bruh why this had to end on the 20th
I will get money only on the 21st
Devs said so
eager mulch
hmm, the way you said next week on a Sunday confused me
barren tapir
it's saturday for me 
sorry if your timezone caused confusion kek
stark quiver
Its a Wednesday for me
barren tapir
full nacelle
Saturday for me
barren tapir
anyway point is there is 1 more set of weekly missions you can get before this event ends -> 12
eager mulch
it's saturday for me <:PortDoll:585585241142591535> sorry if your timezone cause...
im stupid it’s also Saturday for me
barren tapir
i can also get cubesd from clearing ch 12 right?
first time clears yes i think? and there is also commissions. but you will be fine without those if i remembered daily login correctly
full nacelle
Lesson is
Don't slack
You never know when a surprise rerun will happen
Definitely not speaking of experience and desperately trying to get as many pulls as i can
little geyser
Lesson is
Don't slack
You never know when a surprise rerun will happen
i just got back to the game so i didnt have time to prepere much
stark quiver
When WW rolls around and I choose Aquila , do I just unga bunga on the pulls until I get her
full nacelle
Same
Played last 1 month ago or more
atomic abyss
When WW rolls around and I choose Aquila , do I just unga bunga on the pulls unt...
do consider that the next WW will probably be with a UR event...
low juniper
What is WW
stark quiver
tame jungle
Wishing well
low juniper
Oh
stark quiver
Choosing between Aquila and a UR
It’s a hard choice
tame jungle
You select 2 ships from a permapool and they get rate up
eager mulch
also consider that the next wishing well is so far away youd have ample time to save cubes and maybe even get aquila
low juniper
Also who uses the rainbow gun in the event shop
atomic abyss
no one usually
low juniper
So what's the purpose
stark quiver
Also who uses the rainbow gun in the event shop
Everyone can in certain situations
sweet delta
unusually
atomic abyss
when you need a super slow gun for specific boss gimmicks
stark quiver
Syncing with carriers I guess
crimson glacier
cope that theres suitable fight for it
stark quiver
also consider that the next wishing well is so far away youd have ample time to ...
I have like a thousand rn
eager mulch
That’s not a lot
low juniper
How is 1k cubes not a lot
tame jungle
Not enough to get amagi chan
stark quiver
I guess it’s coping for Aquila during winter UR
it’s not lot cuz u run out quick when pulling
eager mulch
a string of bad luck can cripple someone
low juniper
Yeah but it's 400 cubes max for one UR copy
stark quiver
I technically can get a few thousand more
But that’s prolly a bad idea
low juniper
Still leaves 600 for whatever
little geyser
who is aquila?
eager mulch
that’s only one UR event, gold events have no pity
stark quiver
who is aquila?
Carrier
barren tapir
a string of bad events in a row can still wipe you with 1k
odd rootBOT
Bridal Z23
atomic abyss
extremely
low juniper
What does she do
mellow cape
stark quiver
Heal back line, opaf with sashi
mellow cape
I'm getting these weird blacked areas for cards and I restarted
reef flume
a good one?
Best secondary healer in game
eager mulch
little geyser
Best secondary healer in game
ooh me want
atomic abyss
she can have preload airstrikes or she can be a pseudo healer that supports musashi in w14/15 while also having excellent fighter intercept
left cedar
Aquilla for me is a mandatory in W15 with Musa and a dedicated healer
like Unicorn or Klaudia
atomic abyss
to put it bluntly, she is one of the best ships for end game campaign, and even opsi mobbing
eager mulch
Uni kai, musashi, and aquila is the exodia of AL
reef flume
Real
left cedar
for me is Klaudia on Uni Place
eager mulch
~~for me is Klaudia on Uni Place~~
for me is amagi-chan on musashi place
low juniper
Man I wanna mlb Musashi but I have to wait for all the tickets
stark quiver
For me my ranger is in unis place
Don’t need healing when ranger insta kills the whole battle
left cedar
my H-39 CV seens alot more real than that
tranquil saffron
Is daisen gun a good AP gun for Musashi?
haughty dust
Sorry, Discord on my phone must’ve glitched out. I’m gonna retry that post again. Not sure exactly what happened. I can’t remember if you guys said she was good or not. I think you said she wasn’t. I just got her from doing an event pull with a ticket.
stark quiver
shes ok
soft raft
She's on the higher end of SR DDs, but not exactly high enough to be relevant outside of her fleet tech
haughty dust
OK, thank you for the information and which faction is she again?
stark quiver
sakura/IJN
haughty dust
OK, and which faction is the current event UR? Are they both the same?
soft raft
Yes..
She's on the same banner as Musashi...
boreal wagon
all event ships usually have the same faction (exceptions happen very very rarely if at all)
sweet delta
like the anson replacement
forest palm
Iris is the last one I can think that intentionally had mixed faction
boreal wagon
well meta ships exist and have happened more recently than that but the meta ships original faction usually matches
forest palm
haven't all the Event Meta been apart of an event of their former faction so in a roundabout way it's still same faction 
boreal wagon
which is exactly what i just said
eager mulch
Sorry, Discord on my phone must’ve glitched out. I’m gonna retry that post again...
sick violation of the rules bro
coarse heron
Uni kai, musashi, and aquila is the exodia of AL
So FdG is like writing "Exodia" in sharpie on a Pot of Greed, then?
forest palm
FdG is just a blind grandma in her wheel chair
coarse heron
Shoots pretty good for being blind
forest palm
what stacking hit does to mother fucker
haughty dust
~~sick violation of the rules bro~~
I had to delete and repost the question because for some reason it didn’t want to send originally and then when it looked like it did send it for some reason duplicated and I didn’t think anybody wanted to see that twice. I have no clue why it happened.
eager mulch
it’s a joke cause no one ever cares about trophy rule
haughty dust
ahh
left nest
how many of these did I need, I have 1 currently
soft raft
at most 3-4
left nest
oki thx
fallen dove
Just started last week and can just barely clear B3; that about as good as I can expect rn? No C-D clears till next event?
barren tapir
most likely yes, don't worry about it 
soft raft
Just started last week and can just barely clear B3; that about as good as I can...
C/D are the hard mode versions of A/B so you'd be correct on the first part
As for if you can attempt it next event, entirely up to how you progress
barren tapir
next event is collab which uses a different stage system i think? it should be easier to reach oilcap stages in it
white agate
What are the best gold coins research between the 8h,4h,5h,1:30h, and 2:30 h?
vale spindle
the one with ship face on them
white agate
Thanks
vale spindle
technically the shorter length ship face one is marginally better but it doesn't matter as much, most important is ship face > no ship face
dusky cloak
Is Wakatsuki worth getting in the event shop if I’m only going to get around 15-20k points and my next best DDs are Laffey, Ingraham, Javelin?
white agate
There is still time till the 20th to either get her from drop or from pulls else I think you will have to wait till they add the event to the war archives wich i don't know how much time takes
sweet delta
Playing A1 through B3 and C1 through D3 and SP once per day already gives like 40k points
honest stirrup
How can I deal with that predicament (chap 13-4 hard mode)
stark quiver
dont put musashi in off flag......
eager mulch
why is musashi already hurt
honest stirrup
I thought flagships took more damage
dusky cloak
Playing A1 through B3 and C1 through D3 and SP once per day already gives like 4...
are they oil efficient as opposed to grinding D1 (my highest map)
white agate
dont put musashi in off flag......
I think he did so due to low hp
sweet delta
I thought flagships took more damage
Not against airplane crash damage, that is distributed randomly with equal probability to each main fleet ship
sweet delta
are they oil efficient as opposed to grinding D1 (my highest map)
If you use a cheap fleet then yes a lot more efficient
dusky cloak
oh so like 1:1 for them
barren tapir
i mean off flagging at very low hp kinda makes sense so you don't instantly lose when a plane hits but you'd want to avoid getting to that point to begin with
honest stirrup
why is musashi already hurt
Wdym "already" hurt?
stark quiver
musashis skill also makes her take more damage
eager mulch
she’s on red hp
barren tapir
i assume this is after multiple mob fights...?
eager mulch
nvm im genuinely fucked in the brain rn, carry on
honest stirrup
she’s on red hp
After this fleet's 7th mob including 2 fights without ammo
sweet delta
oh so like 1:1 for them
For A maps and perhaps B maps depending on your capabilities, go one step further and use 1:1 with level 70, 0 limit break ships like cassin and ranger
barren tapir
try circular defense for more AA
sweet delta
After this fleet's 7th mob including 2 fights without ammo
So fight the boss and win?
barren tapir
since clearly your vanguard is fine af with full hp
honest stirrup
I'm 3 fleets off doing the 'kill all enemy on the map' thing
stark quiver
also no guam?
honest stirrup
also no guam?
Still working on her but it is true the additional AA could really help me rn
I'm just going to do circular and pray
cinder hornet
is it fine to retire Elite dupes? or what should I do with them instead?
barren tapir
lb with them, if mlb then retire
stark quiver
Still working on her but it is true the additional AA could really help me rn
I'...
might be able to tank with laffey2 and use shimanto + eld(?)
modern pendant
Is she any good?
storm heron
tech only, most likely you have plenty of options better than her
modern pendant
tech only, most likely you have plenty of options better than her
Idk I don't have very much ATM I'll send my roster in a sec
soft raft
do it in a thread
modern pendant
Idk I don't have very much ATM I'll send my roster in a sec
noble osprey
Guys how do you prepare in advance for events? Do you save up a lot a coins/oil? Cuz this event I really dont have enough coins for 200 pulls
soft raft
Stick with what you have for now
Rossiya isnt anything too special
soft raft
Guys how do you prepare in advance for events? Do you save up a lot a coins/oil?...
keeping up the grind
the actual caps for resources are 25k oil and 600k coins
eager mulch
I don’t prepare, I just buy coins and cubes as needed with gems
noble osprey
keeping up the grind
the actual caps for resources are 25k oil and 600k coins
How do you actually save that much? My cap is 9k oil and 53k coins
hushed sorrel
Guys how do you prepare in advance for events? Do you save up a lot a coins/oil?...
coins are always stuck in the dock without any way to spend them
honest stirrup
How do you actually save that much? My cap is 9k oil and 53k coins
53k coins is HUGE
I rarely find myself having more than 30k and I'm level 123 commander
eager mulch
soft cap only prevents you from claiming oil and coins from the canteen, all other sources go above soft cap to the hard cap that blaster listed earlier
soft raft
How do you actually save that much? My cap is 9k oil and 53k coins
that is your soft cap
you can still earn more past that, but you just cant claim resources from the HQ Building, not like you should give a damn about them after a certain point
sweet delta
My mailbox can store over 600k oil and over 1800k coins
hushed sorrel
i think if you grind exp for research (lv 120er ships) you will as well get enough coins for everything
re events can also be used to safe coins and cube, just only pull with the free tickets (3 per day) and the res will get more and more
noble osprey
So for 200 pulls you need to save 300K coins, how do you actually get that much, im still commander lvl 78
sweet delta
You grind it during the event...
dusky cloak
For A maps and perhaps B maps depending on your capabilities, go one step furthe...
sry if this is dumb but how much oil am I saving using 0 LB common ships as opposed to Max LB SRs? Is it like a min/max strat where if I can I should or should I purposely level up some weak ships just for low level farming because the efficiency is so great
sweet delta
Level 70 cassin and ranger costs 4 oil per battle. Level 100+ unicorn and AnShan costs 20 oil per battle
dusky cloak
WOW that seems OP ig I gotta do that 🤣
sweet delta
It is recommended because there are event reruns like this one with 5x points daily
sweet delta
So for 200 pulls you need to save 300K coins, how do you actually get that much,...
You can get 5k to 6k oil per day on average, and if you spend 4k of that at 6.8 coins per oil in 12-4 that is 27k coins per day or 190k coins over a 7 day rerun. That's without counting other coin income or research expenditure . And just always keep a reserve of oil and coins in mail storage
mellow cape
What's the next event?
viscid swift
to love ru collab
atomic abyss
no
sweet delta
I fail to see the correlation between a UR event and grinding pr
weary gust
You can get 5k to 6k oil per day on average, and if you spend 4k of that at 6.8 ...
It's more than that. Coins come from daily missions, the merchant, and retiring ships/selling their gear.
sweet delta
That is what I wrote
haughty current
why Musashi deals no dmg, I thought shes strong
mellow cape
Yeah it's been a hot minute since I played this game. I made a north parliament team for 12-4 exp grinding today and realized I had 0 cubes for the next event loll. Grinding for PR7 should get my resources back up
weary gust
why Musashi deals no dmg, I thought shes strong
Probably because you haven't limit broken her and gave her bad gear and she's not leveled either
atomic abyss
and naturally you cant max her skills yet
soft raft
why Musashi deals no dmg, I thought shes strong
that's only if she's properly raised
if you're trying to use her right out of the box like a unbuilt model kit, then yeah you're gonna be dissapointed
haughty current
Probably because you haven't limit broken her and gave her bad gear and she's no...
well I hav 3 copies of her xD, not going for more cuz im broke. Bad gear yuuuupp true that, but im new to this game xD Im just asking cuz my watarase is dealing good dmg although she has bad gear
sweet delta
haughty current
that's only if she's properly raised
if you're trying to use her right out of th...
i see i see
eager mulch
that's only if she's properly raised
if you're trying to use her right out of th...
buying a Lego set but only playing with the mini figs
mellow cape
Also is there a way when I'm repeating sorties and letting it auto to make it so that it switches to my 2nd fleet for boss?
weary gust
You set roles to choose which does mob and which does boss.
mellow cape
Where would that be?
weary gust
Stage has to be "Cleared" (100%), and then it's in the Roles tab.
On the screen where you select the fleets you'll be sending before entering the map.
storm heron
magic atlas
how to unlock more juustagram convos(text/groupchat)? r they random like the "instagram posts"?
rare wyvern
Single 76mm main gun on Kazugumo right ?
atomic abyss
yes
mellow cape
Do you think it'd be weird to use Laffey 2 instead of yukikaze for this 12-4 farm team I'm using in my boss fleet?
hollow gust
laffey 2 mlb shits on her in every single way
atomic abyss
if the laffey 2 isnt mlb, yes it would be weird
if the laffey 2 is mlb, she's easily one of the best destroyers in the game
sweet delta
I think it'd be weird to use level 125 ships besides a healer at most in farming
okay imma stick her on the team loll.
hollow gust
if she isnt max limitbroken then u dont use her...
storm heron
yes she is MLB
ocean fog
is there a guide on how to raise TB?
cobalt rapids
is there a guide on how to raise TB?
https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488 some pins in this thread
ocean fog
thank you
fallow sedge
How to get combat data pack
coarse heron
Besides the rookie missions and Cruise Missions, you don’t
rare wyvern
Other CV buffing vanguards than Kazugumo ?
atomic abyss
sirius is the next most notable
rare wyvern
Nice
stark quiver
Benson
atomic abyss
and stephen d'potter have the same skills as kazagumo no?
stark quiver
pretty sure hamann 2
atomic abyss
yes hamm 2 as well, tho limited
pale wing
Guys, what's the requirements to increase Musashi's star?
cobalt rapids
bulin mkIII or musashi duplicate
pale wing
bulin mkIII or musashi duplicate
Despite i have Bulin Mk3
She didn't appear on Musashi
cobalt rapids
rare wyvern
Bulins don't have tech right ? 
sweet delta
cobalt rapids
they dont provide yea
rare wyvern
Right
pale wing
<:WarPat:588629688839176200>
Oops
I forgot that i just automatically lock newer ships in my docks so i won't lose them .-.
stark quiver
but they do come mlb, makes my job easier
rare wyvern
Blue bulin when ?
pale wing
Blue bulin when ?
Blue-rarity shipgirls are fairly common
Why have it when you have way too many dupes of blue-rarity shipgirls on your docks, waiting?
soft raft
Blue bulin when ?
Elite rarity bullins apply for Elite rarity and below 
They're very common compared to SR and UR ones for a reason
coarse heron
Blue bulin when ?
They haven’t made a new blue rarity ship since like, Marblehead
rare wyvern
I'm actually wondering if there is still event locked blue/grey ships that aren't in the pools or the guild shop ?
coarse heron
Nope
rare wyvern
Yeah, that's fair
coarse heron
Wait, Hunter was last blue rarity ship to be released for EN in 2020
mellow cape
If only getting BPs was as easy as exp farm grind :((
pale wing
Wait, Hunter was last blue rarity ship to be released for EN in 2020
Then, the rest of the updates..
Its more on Elite to UR...
soft raft
If only getting BPs was as easy as exp farm grind :((
Do you have like a question or are you just complaining?
#al-general if it's the latter
coarse heron
Then, the rest of the updates..
Its more on Elite to UR...
Well that’s the problem of powercreep, only SSR and UR are even usable in the hard content
pale wing
Well that’s the problem of powercreep, only SSR and UR are even usable in the ha...
I just need 3 more Bulin Mk3 ;-;
coarse heron
I built up a ton of Cores back during that period after Shinano but before they had 4 UR events per week to drain all your cores
pale wing
I built up a ton of Cores back during that period after Shinano but before they ...
Man, i wanna save all of my cubes for the upcoming collab
But i failed to meet my expectetions;
Have atleast 2 Musashi copy
Cause, i'll get another Bulin Mk3 on the event
rare wyvern
Do you think there will be tickets for the collab event ?
coarse heron
Tickets are only for reruns
rare wyvern
I'm like, tight on coins after 70 pulls for sushi
Yeah, I'm just gonna do the 3 daily pulls then
coarse heron
If you already got all the ships you want just go back to single light pull
little geyser
Which one should I get?
rare wyvern
I have a bunch of tickets, so I do 3 ticket pulls a day rn
coarse heron
Which one should I get?
Do you already have a Champog gun?
little geyser
the what?
coarse heron
The far right BB gun
little geyser
no
coarse heron
Get that
mellow cape
Mm I sortied my Laffey 2 who's at 90 affinity but it hasn't really gone up at all, am missing something?
I thought affinity after 90 goes up in oil consuming stages
sharp socket
you gain 0.0625 affinity per battle, just do more
coarse heron
but i dont really need more bb guns are any of the others any good
What BB guns do you already have?
Because that’s one of if not the best AP gun for BBs
mellow cape
Soo about 160 battles?
little geyser
Because that’s one of if not the best AP gun for BBs
i know its a diff amo type but to me it just looks like a worse version of the 406mm mk6
sry if im being dumb
coarse heron
The ammo type is what makes it way better on medium and heavy armour bosses.
little geyser
ahhh i see that makes sense thank you
stark quiver
differnt ammo has different modifiers against armor types
sharp socket
for BB guns you swap between ammo types depending on the content you do
coarse heron
It does like 30% more damage on those types of bosses
little geyser
who should i use it on?
coarse heron
Any BB you use on a boss that isn’t a barrager
sharp socket
if you’re fighting light armor boss you use mk6/7, if med/heavy armor boss champagne gun or its sidegrades
little geyser
Any BB you use on a boss that isn’t a barrager
Any of these fit well?
sharp socket
for higher campaign like w13+ youd use med/heavy gun on mob too since more enemies are med/heavy armor
coarse heron
It’s excellent on pretty much every UR BB (except Musashi) for medium and heavy bosses
sharp socket
the best one being 457 as mobbing gun, which can also be used for boss probably for desync purposes
coarse heron
Personally I’d only use 457 on boss BB if I had 2 457s
Speaking of campaign obviously
little geyser
Which one should I get?
only thing holding me back is i heard the aa gun is really good and since i use sandy and guam that would be kinda nice to have
sweet delta
the AA gun has sidegrades and (expensive rainbow) upgrade
coarse heron
The AA gun isn’t strictly necessary
sweet delta
the BB gun is used by literally every late-endgame player
coarse heron
You can just put a Roomba on Sandy instead
sudden sparrow
Y'all, any ships that drop these guns?
rare wyvern
Z-Flag be any good ?
sudden sparrow
Need it for Algerie gun.
coarse heron
Y'all, any ships that drop these guns?
You mainly buy the French dev packs to get the blues, the bottom one is from Surcouf
little geyser
alright thank you for all the advice, yall are always so helpfull
stark quiver
Z-Flag be any good ?
its a meme
rare wyvern
Huh
stark quiver
like its really bad aux
rare wyvern
What is the "certain ship" it's supposed to have an effect on ?
quartz jungle
Y'all, any ships that drop these guns?
You can get it from the Iris tech box
I believe Bearn and Surcouf drop the 155 mm and the 203 mm respectively
forest palm
Y'all, any ships that drop these guns?
fresh briar
Which is good to level up prinz Eugen or Chapaveh
soft raft
they both do different things
Also stop using that 0LB NJ and LB2 Shinano At once
quartz jungle
Level Chapayev, LB your roon and put her as tank
elfin hollow
Whats the current meta fleet to kill the meta boss
fresh briar
Wdym lb
stark quiver
Whats the current meta fleet to kill the meta boss
wet badge
Which of the non dr season 7 ships should i spend my bps on
hollow gust
bayerd is by far the strongest one
wet badge
Bayern?????
forest palm
Bayard is about it
wet badge
Aint that the football club
hollow gust
daisen is a SR bb and the halford is mid asf
wet badge
What does bayard do
hollow gust
damage and decently durable
wet badge
So daisen is an average sr bb
sweet delta
one of the best sr bb
haughty dust
I have 2 SR bulin from the current event shop. Should any of these characters that are almost max limit broke be max limit broke.
wet badge
Wait so in terms of value which ones better
hollow gust
if you get even 2 UR bbs, SR bbs just arent gonna compete with them
soft raft
*2 UR BBs that are not named Warspite Retro
wet badge
if you get even 2 UR bbs, SR bbs just arent gonna compete with them
Ye i got a mainly ur mainfleet
haughty dust
really so to speak in terms of just the best options for overall gameplay? I know that I eventually need to retrofit Eldridge for PVP and such. But I just cannot figure out who to use the two bulin on.
wet badge
Kinda lacking on vanguard
haughty dust
*2 UR BBs that are not named Warspite Retro
that one’s already done. these are just my SR characters assorted by max stars and max level going to lowest.
I can show the rest, but that would probably be a few more pictures
barren tapir
just save the bulins til you need them imo
haughty dust
ok however when it’s time to max limit, break another character and you suggestions on who would go for, but I will save up for now as much as I possibly can until I run out of space in my dock
stark quiver
ok however when it’s time to max limit, break another character and you suggesti...
do you care about tech?
haughty dust
My space is currently at 335 out of 370 but I don’t have enough gems to buy more slots right now and I can’t really spend real money to do so at the moment
eager mulch
haughty dust
do you care about tech?
well, remind me again what does tech really used for? I do try to get all my characters up to 125 at some point even if it’s not right away.
stark quiver
125 is not worth for 90% of ships
barren tapir
- only 125 ships you use/intend to use in difficult content
- ships levelled to 120 give global stat bonus to every mlb ship you have
stark quiver
well, remind me again what does tech really used for? I do try to get all my cha...
obtaining and getting ships to level 120 gives fleet tech > which is basically extra stats
eager mulch
125 is not worth for 90% of ships
worth for amagi-chan?
barren tapir
waifu is always worth, but is beyond the scope of this channel
eager mulch
haughty dust
most of the ships I have I tried to get to at least 120. In most cases the ships I usually get to 125 are SR and UR and not elite but it depends.
coarse heron
Note: Child versions of ships and Collab ships do NOT give fleet tech
eager mulch
but yes, consider 120 as the max and only 125 when you desperately need the extra levels
coarse heron
125 is for ships going into W15, mainly
stark quiver
most of the ships I have I tried to get to at least 120. In most cases the ships...
duke of york gives +2 bb rld
haughty dust
oh, and by the way, here’s my current level 125 ships just for reference if that helps any. oh FYI, if you see fleet 3. That’s just a placeholder right now so I can remember what Eagle union ships to work on using for XP grind to level them up to at least 120 next. I’m not actually using that fleet.
storm heron
here's my current ships for reference too
eager mulch
bro has no ships 💀
stark quiver
rip dock
soft raft
Bro showed up to the joint with a empty dock, asked to leave GPH
ornate narwhal
What is the list of reruns? And who’s getting added to standard next?
storm heron
standard is kronshtadt, next rerun is Yorktown II
viscid swift
next to be archived would be Impero not Kronshtadt
sharp socket
impero is UR?
viscid swift
no, she's an SR
stiff oracle
Is there a list of common, rare and elite ships that need to be raised for fleet tech? Or just raised all units each?
stark quiver
viscid swift
not exactly
sharp socket
bad tech can ignore, raise good tech
dreamy blade
whats the best place to farm these in opsi, strongholds?
viscid swift
for main fleets you'd prioritize reload, hit, and FP/AVI
for vanguards you'd prioritze cruiser evasion, then FP, torpedo, hit, and relaod
storm heron
whats the best place to farm these in opsi, strongholds?
shop and abyssals and arbiter
viscid swift
whats the best place to farm these in opsi, strongholds?
you don't farm them so much as pray you get them as drops
stiff oracle
bad tech can ignore, raise good tech
How to know?
sharp socket
rld, hit, fp, avi are good tech
viscid swift
for main fleets you'd prioritize reload, hit, and FP/AVI
for vanguards you'd pri...
^
dreamy blade
i need 3 more for my first wyvern do they only drop from a certain corrosion level (for abyssals)
viscid swift
not that I'm aware of
you're just at the mercy of RNG with cat nodes and Abyssal drops
storm heron
i need 3 more for my first wyvern <:Ehhssex:611004140046254080> do they only dro...
you can get like 8 from the classified data loggers from vouchers, there's no reason you cannot get wyvern on second month
sharp socket
they drop randomly, and its a very low chance is all we know
dreamy blade
speaking of, am i missing something about leveling cats bc it feels like my cats i use everywhere and have in the comforts have been stuck at lvl 16 for weeks
storm heron
speaking of, am i missing something about leveling cats bc it feels like my cats...
same experience
sharp socket
dont worry it takes many months to get high leveled cats
dreamy blade
you can get like 8 from the classified data loggers from vouchers, there's no re...
ah ok yeah i only bought 2 of those with my vouchers this month so i guess i'll just wait for reset
sharp socket
ive only made 2 lv30 cats and i play daily for ~9 months now
dreamy blade
am i supposed to feed purple cats as exp to my sr cats
wind hazel
you can feed any fodder cats that you don't want
storm heron
am i supposed to feed purple cats as exp to my sr cats
depend on the cats, but I won't bother to keep checking and feeding fodder as the exp gain is negligible for the effort you need to train and filter the good cats
wind hazel
just make sure your cat comfort isn't empty, have something there entire time. raise a group of cats, feed into main one, repeat until lv30, repeat again until you got good cats
slow fox
sweet delta
bruh i started typing for half a second and you already sent it
sweet delta
ive only made 2 lv30 cats and i play daily for ~9 months now
been playing for years and only got 41 level 30s 💀
rare wyvern
What does actually gives the OPS coupons for reset ?
Like do the OPS coins/token give coupons ? Coordinates, action boxes, repair boxes ?
storm heron
ap and repair boxes do not
sweet delta
/wiki operation soren
odd rootBOT
Bridal Z23
odd rootBOT
Bridal Z23
rare wyvern
Good thing I'm too lazy to grind them R4 loggers and under
Also I'm out of AP now lmao
storm heron
that's not how you do it, vouchers are less valuable than the gold plates they could have given
rare wyvern
Then I'm getting the hidden zone logger as well next month
And I need to save my fuel for normal logger 
sweet delta
Skip coordinates so that they turn into vouchers so that you can buy coordinates next Month 
storm heron
are the rates even favorable?
rare wyvern
I did that the month just before
I honestly really target the Siren Coordinate loggers only, and the R5/6 normal ones
For a chance at getting tokens to empty the shops
storm heron
that is not recommended since you will get coins and special tokens as well if you do the R4 R3 hidden
storm heron
may I ask what you usually buy with your vouchers?
rare wyvern
That is all I got last month, because I spent all my normal coins on the shop's coordinates
Also I didn't farm nearly enough
storm heron
interesting, so buying and not doing anything with it is actually just the same as not buying it at all
rare wyvern
I DID THEM
storm heron
I thought if you buy coordinates but did not do them you will suffer a loss, turns out they cost the same
rare wyvern
I do it seriously this month, and I'm gonna have a lot more vouchers by the reset
rare wyvern
I thought if you buy coordinates but did not do them you will suffer a loss, tur...
Oh alright, I misunderstood sowwy
My inventory is a tad full :3
But that's 3.7k vouchers
storm heron
have you done the arbiters yet?
rare wyvern
Normal, I really can't get past Hard's first threshold without a revamp
Because, um, I have my faction fleets for OPS 👉👈
storm heron
looks okay for the voichers, I did everything and have 8096 rn
rare wyvern
I'll try to get the hidden zones by the end of the month
I hope it drops AP boxes too
storm heron
akashi can give you a lot of AP, make sure you turn on the setting that stop when meeting merchant
rare wyvern
I do, and I buy her shop
Also, is the weird siren oilrig worth the trouble of doing ?
storm heron
I personally find it annoying to stop for, so I jsut ignored them. Maybe others don't
barren tapir
would wyvern be better used on unicorn or indep?
storm heron
since mob fights are usually harder, unicorn
barren tapir
i use both in mob, mostly wondering between uni preload against indep extra plane and efficiency
clever lance
What ships use the Yamato triple 406mm?
sweet delta
What ships use the Yamato triple 406mm?
Any damage BB in EX, and sometimes Alsace and sometimes other BBs in some meta showdowns. So it's generally niche.
clever lance
Why only in those game modes?
sweet delta
because EX battles for high score are meant to be short, and showdown sometmies it's hard to get 4 salvos with conventional 20s guns
eager mulch
Yamato doesn’t have triple 406mms 
sweet delta
and in those niches situations the 460 had better be +13 otherwise it's just worse
tldr dont use it if you dont know when to
pale wing
Yamato doesn’t have triple 406mms <a:LaffeyShake:588629710934638602>
46cm/45 Type 94 Naval Gun
sharp socket
460mm vs 406mm, easy mistake 
stark quiver
is eld retro better than laff2 in ariM
sweet delta
She's certainly more consistent
soft raft
Whats next rerun
fresh briar
By using a bulin/copy of a ship so it gains more stars
Why not what will happen if I still do that
eager mulch
ship won’t be good
soft raft
Why not what will happen if I still do that
well if you dont give a ship limit breaks, portions of their kit will be locked away
Take Bismarck Zwei's for example
You see those Main gun mounts?
a non MLB BB will roughly do a 3rd of the damage of its MLB counterpart
sharp socket
is there a math calculation for % of MLB damage for 0/1/2lb for a better understanding experience
like 0lb is 60% of MLB output or whatever the number is
soft raft
I'm pretty sure "They're missing huge chunks of their damage potential" is enough to get the point across
rare wyvern
I think it's not relevant enough because you don't really need anything else than XP book them to 70 to mlb
stark quiver
you dont need a wall of numbers for some things
sharp socket
i thought of creating an infographic for cheeky’s mlb doc to make it more readable
umbral wadi
What do I buy from medal shop?
rare wyvern
i thought of creating an infographic for cheeky’s mlb doc to make it more readab...
"Get more guns" looks plenty reasonable to me
soft raft
What do I buy from medal shop?
In terms of ships, Hood and Enterprise are priority
In terms of items, whatever you need (tho the retrofit prints are overpriced fwiw)
frank pulsar
is there a math calculation for % of MLB damage for 0/1/2lb for a better underst...
if youre missing a gun mount thats ~33% less shelling dmg
now factor in missing stats and it becomes a bigger dmg loss
this of course doesnt consider barrage dmg if applicable which means it may not be a 33% loss overall
soft raft
i thought of creating an infographic for cheeky’s mlb doc to make it more readab...
That would prob be too much hassle for what it's worth
rare wyvern
I get the idea but I think it can be simple to get the point of "mlb is the ship at normal perf" across
umbral wadi
In terms of ships, Hood and Enterprise are priority
In terms of items, whatever...
How do I buy enterprise from medal shop?
frank pulsar
if youre missing a gun mount thats ~33% less shelling dmg
now factor in missing ...
so yea it difficult to math calculate unless its for a specific ship
sharp socket
That would prob be too much hassle for what it's worth
time is not the bottleneck here
ill go napkin math it myself
stark quiver
make an infographic abt syncing, imo its much more needed
sharp socket
hmm alr ill do that first then, considering it doesnt exist
viscid swift
what is there to really say
you want your stopper to launch 2nd for CVs, and you want your CVs to be ideally within 0.2 secconds of each other
main forms of cooldown adjustment will be adjusting the TBs between the 4 converging types and using Aviation Beacon and Maintenance Manjuu
umbral wadi
How do I get enterprise from medal shop??
frank pulsar
wait, your server prob doesnt have cv this month
stark quiver
How do I get enterprise from medal shop??
wait for rotation
viscid swift
similar can be said for BBs with Flandre, Soyuz, and Champaign gun
umbral wadi
Thanks
stark quiver
oh yea, one question, what is bb jamming, and how do i avoid it
rare wyvern
you want your stopper to launch 2nd for CVs, and you want your CVs to be ideally...
Does it count for manual ? Given one can only spam his screen so fast
viscid swift
oh yea, one question, what is bb jamming, and how do i avoid it
BB jamming is when BBs reload at about the same time, unlike CVs most BBs can only store one salvo so they can't start reloading their next until they fire off the one they already loaded
which if you get multiple BBs reloading at the same time causes your BBs to take longer to reload their next salvo hence the term jamming
frank pulsar
oh yea, one question, what is bb jamming, and how do i avoid it
bb jamming is due to global 0.5s cd seperate from bb actual cd
meaning bb cant fire faster than 0.5s of each other
this is how i understand it at least
sweet delta
i thought of creating an infographic for cheeky’s mlb doc to make it more readab...
I think taking a screenshot of it in dark mode would already make it more readable
viscid swift
this is why Alsace reloads faster than she should on paper in BB fleets
forest palm
I believe you have more leeway with Nak, and Imp, though ya'll must be talking about August 
sharp socket
my goal is to explain each part of that more clearly with pictures and also answers faq
viscid swift
I mean if you want go ahead
stark quiver
which if you get multiple BBs reloading at the same time causes your BBs to take...
is that a thing id want to avoid in lets say a harbiter battle?
rare wyvern
my goal is to explain each part of that more clearly with pictures and also answ...
To be fair, I feel that anyone going as far as being interested in syncing and optimizing can understand the basic math of the game's optimization
sweet delta
No you just accept your fate
viscid swift
is that a thing id want to avoid in lets say a harbiter battle?
it's not something you'd want to avoid because you can't really
it's just something to factor in for your timings
like getting that 4th salvo off against METAs for instance
jamming may be the difference between getting it and not
stark quiver
if i dont want like alsace vanny and zwei to jam during it, how much should i adjust the timings?
sweet delta
using a shitty gun to avoid jamming entirely is not it
viscid swift
yeah
forest palm
like the windows iirc are .18s (August), .25s (Nak), and .3s (Imp) if you're doing 4 strikes
viscid swift
not only is that gonna cause desync more quickly you're still delaying your reload, just you're now probably handy capping raw damage as well in some form
sweet delta
tldr
if your BBs finish the last salvo then congratulations
else decide if it's worth using autoloader or a faster gun on someone
stark quiver
bet
anyways off to test some stuff
in msost short battles i want vanny to fire first tho yea?
viscid swift
besides, Alsace is pretty much the only BB who doesn't get jammed
sharp socket
To be fair, I feel that anyone going as far as being interested in syncing and o...
i understood how syncing works without understanding math, so i believe other people can do so too with an infographic that tells them how to mess around with fleet tool to achieve it the same way cause it took me a while to understand it
forest palm
just eyeball
viscid swift
it's not that difficult, just a lot of people don't know how to optimize a CV set up in the first place just for raw damage let alone sync it
rare wyvern
it's not that difficult, just a lot of people don't know how to optimize a CV se...
Wdym I can't just put good plane on good CV and call it a day
sweet delta
raw dps? wiki says Spearfish and Wyvern are the top 2
viscid swift
Wdym I can't just put good plane on good CV and call it a day <:MutsukiHyperStar...
good planes are entirely situationally dependent
rare wyvern
Yes, hence my general lack of performance on this game
stark quiver
yea i used to js eyeball it, but started trying to atually understand it a bit more, its the bb aspect that i dont get, cvs js kinda js make them fire as close as possible
rare wyvern
I rarely swap loadouts for anything
forest palm
BBs should be much the same
viscid swift
like there's a reason why I mocked this up
on a single target boss assuming the same enhance level and not accounting for individual ship skills
Fighters(Light): HVAR > La-9 > Bf-109G > Tigercat/Flapjack/Sea Hornet
Fighters(Medium): La-9 > Bf-109G > HVAR > Tigercat/Flapjack/Sea Hornet
Fighters(Heavy): La-9 > Tigercat/Flapjack/Sea Hornet
Dive Bombers(Light and Medium): Skyraider > Tenrai > Helldiver
Dive Bombers(Heavy): Tenrai > Helldiver
TBs(All armor types): Saiun/Ju-87d/Ryuusei/Vit-2(mode change)
Flex Slots(Light): Skyraider > HVAR > La-9 > Bf-109G
Flex Slots(Medium): La-9 > Skyraider > Bf-109G > Saiun/Ju-87d/Ryuusei/Vit-2(mode change)
Flex Slot(Heavy): Saiun/Ju-87d/Ryuusei/Vit-2(mode change) > Tenrai > La-9 > Helldiver
For Campaign
Fighter: Flapjack >= Tigercat/Sea Hornet > Hellcat >= F4u Corsair/Seacat/Reppuu
Dive Bomber: Tenrai > Helldiver
Torpedo Bomber: Wyvern ~= Spearfish > Breguet > Barracudda
forest palm
though BB have less flexibility
sweet delta
soft raft
How do I buy enterprise from medal shop?
You hope that monthly RNG lands CVs as a option in your medal shop
BB in the case of Hood
undone plover
is there a math calculation for % of MLB damage for 0/1/2lb for a better underst...
I agree celerio 
I wanted to say this as well
mgm and efficiency means nothing to most players
but if they see LB0 being ~25% of LB3 performance it gets the idea across much better imo
forest palm
numbers don't always give a sense of gravity though, but I do understand what you're trying to say
sweet delta
25%-30% sounds reasonable but i don't have a level 125 lb0 NJ to test 
viscid swift
I thought I explained things well enough in my little right up
forest palm
was about to say 
undone plover
numbers don't always give a sense of gravity though, but I do understand what yo...
u can do 25% (red color), 100% (green color) 
sharp socket
i understand that less gun = worse gets across but then itll create a question of “how much is that though”
stark quiver
js make a b4 mlb and after mlb 
forest palm
it simply comes down to saying that a ship that isn't MLB just has poor performance plain, and simple
viscid swift
I mean
sharp socket
and if its something like 140% gun eff vs 160% gun eff someone will just think “its like 15% better only to mlb, not that much”
sweet delta
make one of those level 1 vs level 100 game ads but with LBs instead
undone plover
in that case why even explain efficiency and gun mounts 
hollow gust
way too wordy , and its fking white
forest palm
the only thing that gets confusing to the average player is explaining Gun Mounts cause it isn't quite clear what that means
quartz jungle
25%-30% sounds reasonable but i don't have a level 125 lb0 NJ to test <:LilEnty:...
Next thing to test ig?
viscid swift
it's that long because I wanted to ensure people new things like what another gun mount actually does
undone plover
we are just saying instead of using game mechanics new players wont understand u can use percentages
everyone understands 25% 50% etc
every other gacha does this
viscid swift
I also do give a comparison though in terms of numbers
barren tapir
well ignoring fp bc idk the lb difference, bz lb0 to mlb diff is 26.88% effectiveness i think
so u might as well say, lb0 is over 75% weaker than mlb (after including fp gain)
viscid swift
In other words, a 0 LB Bismarck Zwei is doing less than ⅓ of the main gun damage of an MLB Bismarck Zwei bearing in mind that a significant portion of a BB’s damage comes from their main guns.
hollow gust
that note should be a quick and concise mlb bad, not 2 paragraphs, if they want to ask more then you post the current copypasta
undone plover
your explanation is decent cheeky, I just hope they read it 
barren tapir
or mlb is over 4x stronger than lb0, is another way to put it
(this only main gun dmg tho, barrages is based on skill, however barrages also gain from lb, either aoas, or just because of higher fp/avi/trp)
viscid swift
I mean we already do that but people are more likely to follow it if they truly understand why it's bad
sharp socket
alternatively can reformat the doc so its less of a wall, with highlighted parts like the 1/3 damage portion
or just make it the first thing people see when opening the doc and explanation below
viscid swift
because pretty much all new players don't appreciate the magnitute of the actual difference and if they think it's a small difference and we're being optimization lords then they may not follow it and with predictable results
hollow gust
that shit is boring asf even for me, and i read technical documents for fun
viscid swift
alternatively can reformat the doc so its less of a wall, with highlighted parts...
if you have suggestions on reformating it DM me
viscid swift
that shit is boring asf even for me, and i read technical documents for fun
that's because you know everything it's explaining....
barren tapir
can just put in bold text on the top as a tldr: 0lb ship is 1/4th the power of mlb ship in most cases. something like that
viscid swift
sure I can do that
barren tapir
(well that is for backliners, for vg its probably less but vg survivability goes way up with lbs which is just as important so)
viscid swift
it's actually about the same all things considered
barren tapir
actually, yeah with barrages and everything
viscid swift
like just for a simple example, Unzen at 0 LB has one main gun mount, no preloads and no double torp built in, and is missing a bunch of efficiencies on torps and guns, etc
stark quiver
can someone send their good opsi fleets,
i need examples
barren tapir
particularly since for many good vg ships their barrages like aoa make up a large % of damage
viscid swift
honestley I stopped giving a damn about optimizing my OpSi fleets
undone plover
universal disclaimer is fine imo
doesnt need to differentiate vanguards or backlines
u can put a footnote there are very rare exceptions
they can then ask about them
late flame
same
stark quiver
my concern is that mine are kinda shit
barren tapir
like just for a simple example, Unzen at 0 LB has one main gun mount, no preload...
unzen is kinda on the high end of that meter though tbf, whereas backliners are largely more consistent (most get 3-4x more planes and 3x gun mount, tho there's exceptions) some vg ships only get some efficiency and 1 torp preload. but then there is aoa to consider and raw stats which also matter a fair bit
viscid swift
yeah like I said, it's not universal but that also comes from limit breaking
undone plover
pretty much for any dmg dealing ship LB is huge
only a few tanks can work at lb2 or maybe lb1
barren tapir
even for tanks, lbs give a bunch of hp which is always helpful
storm heron
barren tapir
oh also ships need to be mlb to equip augments and benefit from fleet tech, which are further bonuses 
(granted these won't really be relevant to a newbie, but they in practice raise the gap even further)
viscid swift
yep
rare wyvern
Stat bonuses are multiplicative right ? Twice 15% FP reload is a 1.15² factor on FP ? I read the formula on the wiki but don't recall if the factors here multiply
Huh, it's additive then ?
sweet delta
+30% FP
rare wyvern
Ah I see
viscid swift
buffs are additive, debuffs are multiplicative
rare wyvern
Sounds like a lose for us
hollow gust
weary gust
<:ShiSleep:771507346069389313>
I feel like people are way less likely to read that when it's just a block of text with no graphic.
sharp socket
hollow gust
cheeky has a way fatter block, the 2nd paragrah is fatter then my entire thing
barren tapir
needs some bold text and a tldr with the in-your-face value, ie
viscid swift
it's now 2 things
stark quiver
i like having pictures and colors
its just more engaging to me
barren tapir
A 0LB SHIP ONLY DEALS ABOUT 25-30% DMG OF AN MLB SHIP
barren tapir
it's now 2 things
oh tbh this works nicely
eager mulch
<:AmagiNom:1153874388098232360>
weary gust
That mobilegame-eqsue ad cancer image on the right disguts me tbh. I think the image on the left is good.
eager mulch
make one of amagi-chan and it’s got my interest (amagi-chan is far cuter)
barren tapir
if they used it as an ad for azur lane it'd be like the most accurate ad ever made for al
umbral wadi
Hey it won’t let me do c3 of the event
weary gust
Did you clear c2?
stark quiver
Hey it won’t let me do c3 of the event
do u meet stat requirements?
umbral wadi
How do I get trp up??
barren tapir
did you have at least 1 ship in both main and vanguard that meet the hull requirement?
weary gust
Use ships with higher torpedo stats, generally destroyers.
eager mulch
tryptophan supplements use more dds/ships with torpedos
barren tapir
stuff that fleet full of dds ezpz
umbral wadi
So I need to change my team
hollow gust
Its much easier for a person to visualize main guns as groups of shells , addition of bismarck example is honestly additional fluff that can be just removed
eager mulch
Its much easier for a person to visualize main guns as groups of shells , additi...
make one of amagi-chan and it’s got my interest (amagi-chan is far cuter)
rare wyvern
Doodle comic guide but unironically ?
barren tapir
Its much easier for a person to visualize main guns as groups of shells , additi...
that graphic is nice but needs correction to as much as 75% of its damage potential
sharp socket
where do you get the pic on the right from, it looks great
hollow gust
like that little picture is way more useful then the entire bismarck example
sweet delta
how do i get a 3 MGM Abercrombie in game
hollow gust
where do you get the pic on the right from, it looks great <:EmileSip:4953966871...
its a old asf meme
barren tapir
and ye that is a very good visual representation, but the bismarck comic is funnier
viscid swift
Its much easier for a person to visualize main guns as groups of shells , additi...
I'm using it as a concrete example so I'm not just purely generalizing or speaking in hypotheticals
eager mulch
I'm using it as a concrete example so I'm not just purely generalizing or speaki...
you should use pics from wows dockyards of the shipbuilding process
viscid swift
also can I just say, this is ugly af
hollow gust
that entire 2nd block of letters is also unappealing asf
viscid swift
man that is cursed
sharp socket
adding the bismarck one to my ms paint thing (and amagi chan)
rare wyvern
I think the image could use something like
+ DAMAGE
+ SURVIVABILITY
An image of the effects more than just text to explain it
EN doesn't read is funny meme but let's be real, most people actually can't be arsed
hollow gust
Thats , yeaaaah not seeeing it
viscid swift
because pretty much all new players don't appreciate the magnitute of the actual...
^
barren tapir
forest palm
just continues to escalate 
sharp socket
we're reaching new levels of brainrot cooking with this one
viscid swift
if I thought just an image plus a few pieces of texts would have been enough that would have been what I would have done for the start
eager mulch
does anyone have the original 
image?
stark quiver
oh man
viscid swift
and the less well someone understands something, the less likely they are to follow through with it
sharp socket
if only the quality of the bottom left image wasnt made of 3 pixels it would unironically be a good doc imo
barren tapir
honestly you could just post the abercrombie image edited to say 1x/2x/3x damage in bold font over each one and a header saying "effect of limit breaking"
viscid swift
in a way you could
barren tapir
think that gets the main point across and as an image it will be seen more than walls of text (even with accompanying image)
viscid swift
but at the same that still wouldn't explain things what a main gun mount does directly or what slot efficiency does
undone plover
just do this imo
no need to explain anything
~~I even typoed 
~~
barren tapir
if someone wanted to know they can ask, the more important part i think is they understand limit breaking = huge dmg gain
viscid swift
which we pretty much always specify
I add the wall of text with or after that tid bit has been brought up
barren tapir
just do this imo
no need to explain anything <:PortDoll:585585241142591535>
~~I ...
some ppl are gonna see a chart and pass out assuming it's some obscure math thing
viscid swift
I'm not just posting that image and saying nothing else
hollow gust
just do this imo
no need to explain anything <:PortDoll:585585241142591535>
~~I ...
thats just a shit graph ngl
weary gust
~~thats just a shit graph ngl~~
stark quiver
it gets worse
how
hollow gust
ewww , when a single block of text is betterlooking then all the images you add, you fucked up
storm heron
make a guide how a ship can get 20x damage
hollow gust
cheeky just needs to shorten his text and thats enough
white maple
question do we sorta have an idea of when Perseus reruns cause i’m new and sorta dying to get my hands on her
stark quiver
and maybe add a bit of color,
its the small things that add up
weary gust
Perseus will go into perma pool if she isn't there already.
stark quiver
question do we sorta have an idea of when Perseus reruns cause i’m new and sorta...
no
unicorn exists
and unicorn kills perseus
white maple
ye i got her too just wanna run another healer for op siren
hollow gust
question do we sorta have an idea of when Perseus reruns cause i’m new and sorta...
she is already permant but dont bother rolling, you have less then single percentage chance of getting her
white maple
gotcha thx guys 🙏
hollow gust
gotcha thx guys 🙏
also double healer opsi is trash
viscid swift
alright I think that's enough editing of this for one day.
umbral wadi
Hey what war archive should I be doing? I haven’t done any yet
eager mulch
alright I think that's enough editing of this for one day.
not enough amagi-chan
viscid swift
Hey what war archive should I be doing? I haven’t done any yet
Divergent Chessboard for IB tech, the rest are just for collection and completion.
Not that you should do the former before reaching W12
stark quiver
what low cost fleets can farm 6-4
viscid swift
what level was 6-4 again?
umbral wadi
IB tech? What’s that?
hollow gust
what low cost fleets can farm 6-4
pretty sure double ddg works when its that low lmaoo
eager mulch
what level was 6-4 again?
yuudachi
stark quiver
b4 u wonder, no not farming for poi
eager mulch
viscid swift
You might be able to get away with an 11 oil fleet
worst case is just Unicorn plus a DDG
sweet delta
worst case is 100 oil fleet
dry ice
<a:smolmagipat:1303222957178486854>
forest palm
are we above 130 total fleet oil cost?
haven't done the math in ages
sharp socket
how do you get that high
native hemlock
who's better dps overall: implacable, or amagi (cv)?
forest palm
Imp is a support, Amagi is a damage dealer
sharp socket
alright I think that's enough editing of this for one day.
pls fix english its killing my ability to read this
eager mulch
gn gph 
forest palm
dry ice
gn gph <:smolmagisleep:1198511245863698492>
Gn
viscid swift
pls fix english its killing my ability to read this <:PortDoll:58558524114259153...
I think that should do it
hollow gust
tf its white again
eager mulch
“For example, for Bismarck Zwei, at 0 LB she fires her main gun…” is giving me a hernia
sharp socket
just copy the thing and paste it into MSpaint is what i did
eager mulch
get chat gpt to write it
viscid swift
take however many this is
quartz jungle
Nvm you fixed that already
hollow gust
break the paragraph at thus
eager mulch
gpt kinda cooked with this one
storm heron
megpt vs chatgpt
sharp socket
For example, Bismarck Zwei fires her main gun and secondary gun once every reload. In comparison, at max limit break she fires her guns 3 times per reload...
eager mulch
gpt ain’t cooking with this one
opaque gate
is there a way to know which rigging analysis has a better chance of getting tenrai blueprints?
viscid swift
is there a way to know which rigging analysis has a better chance of getting ten...
there's some community collected data but it's mostly CN
stark quiver
when tf did amagi do a banzai
opaque gate
where can isee it? if it is in english
viscid swift
I have no idea if this still works
https://azur-stats.lyoko.io/
forest palm
how do you get that high <:MutsukiHyperStare:588629678017871872>
if you were to make a fleet purely based on oil cost you can make a fleet of 103 oil, with subs that raises to 127 oil
fresh briar
well if you dont give a ship limit breaks, portions of their kit will be locked ...
Well shi- i always do that crap
stark quiver
I have no idea if this still works
https://azur-stats.lyoko.io/
its a lot of nothing
inner delta
opaque gate
rip it doesnt
forest palm
the Fighter is the only thing that matters, after that you can stack Avi
fresh briar
Should I use akashi or not
stark quiver
huh
hell naw
viscid swift
99.99% of scenarios no
fresh briar
I was just joking xd
stark quiver
joke in gph?! Impossible
fresh briar
Saratoga worth it?
hollow gust
very good
fresh briar
Bruh I thought she was not good
viscid swift
you thought very wrong
fresh briar
I'm cook I deleted her
hollow gust
pay a dollar to al then
fresh briar
I mean retire
viscid swift
luckily for you she's relatively easy to get back
viscid swift
yes, quite well in fact
hollow gust
lmao 12/13 lategame
viscid swift
I also wouldn't consider W12 and W13 late game btw
frank pulsar
But the question on late game
shes good in campaign until w15, she kinda not great there
sweet delta
pretty much any ship works easily through chapter 12
weary gust
W12 is like the start of midgame.
fresh briar
lmao 12/13 lategame
I'm just a newbie ok
frank pulsar
real endgame is farming ships to 120
fresh briar
I'm going to get agir and Friedrich brb
ornate scarab
W15 putting me through the ringer
opaque gate
which is best to +13 for sandy?
ornate scarab
14 was a cake walk compared
ornate scarab
I'm going to get agir and Friedrich brb
Good
sweet delta
opaque gate
ok thanks, is that the best for her?
sweet delta
this is usually the best for sandy but it costs electronics so it's not high priority to get. And 113 will get you through chapter 13 and 14 just fine
ornate scarab
Wait is the prototype twin 90 mm not better?
ivory pawn
W11/Opsi/EX
opaque gate
ok thanks
sweet delta
it's sandy, put highest alpha damage gun on her. twin 113 and twin 90 are both good in general
ornate scarab
Makes sense
fresh briar
Last question Should I use Fargo and Z23(Nimi)
crisp estuary
fresh briar
Because if not I'll change them
viscid swift
depends on the alternatives
fresh briar
I'm confused
eager mulch
they may be better than other stuff you have they may not, we don’t know who you do and don’t have
viscid swift
like what other ships could you use instead of them
eager mulch
like Fargo is good compared to stuff like belfast but I wouldn’t use them where I’d use helena
rare wyvern
Hammer augment for torp-focused DD right ?
And more generally, I feel FP + EVA wouldn't be the best there
quartz jungle
which is best to +13 for sandy?
Swap your quad bofors on Izumo with the STAAG on Ayanami
forest palm
if it's a Torp focused DD sure, FP may be appreciable, but EVA is certainly not, but sometimes you use augments if you need the slash
clever lance
I have roon and just got agir. Who should I target next?
eternal moth
Plymouth maybe
opaque gate
high standard fire control worth +13ing?
rapid grail
I have roon and just got agir. Who should I target next?
are you missing good DRs, SRs?
seeing that you are done with Aegir, would recommend either finishing up PR4 or go forward to PR5's ships and gear
eternal moth
I'd just stick with PR4 until you can get Agir to dev30
rapid grail
high standard fire control worth +13ing?
for late campaign and bossing (most of the time), yes. afcr more so but it costs thrice as much
last zenith
Hallo, does Musashi deals decent damage if her skills are not optimize? I currently have 9 copies of her i wonder if she is worth investing to
I mean upgrading
eternal moth
... How did you get NINE copies?