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[storm heron]

heavy armor, lower AA

[polar lion]

R we gonna hab a nother maintenance tmr?

[tame jungle]

No

[storm heron]

also no contributions like heals like brest

[sharp socket]

i thought bombs and torps do more against med than heavy

[tame jungle]

They don’t

[storm heron]

apparently not

[sharp socket]

huh alr

[storm heron]

oh yea while agir is using the bulge, brest can just run double eva aux

[dreamy blade]

you can look at any torpedo and it shows the armor mods, 80/100/130% dmg against light/medium/heavy

[wind hazel]

which chapter

[dreamy blade]

are you able to buy skins for ships you dont have yet

[tame jungle]

Yea

[storm heron]

:nubidoro:

[dreamy blade]

oh nice...im in danger

[frank pulsar]

its prob best for you to avoid them if yr f2p, saves you a lot of pain

[zinc hornet]

i just breezed through 11 today so i wanna start preparing for later chapters

[dreamy blade]

yeah no i spend f2p gems on dock space but that black friday sale is tempting me

[wind hazel]

w12 will be more or less the same. keep using 1bb 2cv setup for mob and boss

w13 will be slightly different, but let's revisit that when you're there

you can use w12 to raise your independence

[dreamy blade]

im relatively new and can confirm i breezed through 11/12 and then got humbled by 13

[frank pulsar]

can confirm, w13 forced me to use an actual tank when i was new player

[storm heron]

ngl I kinda feel w12 is hard ever since I have to mind what kind of sitters I am using

[wind hazel]

i farmed and grinded isuzu like what etcl walkthrough told me to do and trashed w13 holy pogger

[frank pulsar]

just do 12-1 until they can do 12-4

nowadays i grind there instead since i dont need coin (as much)

[whole crypt]

just do 12-1 until you feel like there's actually a need to get Bunker Hill

[dreamy blade]

im currently raising sandy and juneau for w13 but i think my issue will be not having any good tanks besides portland

[storm heron]

It's kinda unfortunate that you will still have to use brain to farm w12 no matter if you did chapter 20 or you one shot all the metas

[wind hazel]

anchorage is free

[tame jungle]

Anchorage time

[dreamy blade]

well im like 200 tech points away from being able to start her so

[wind hazel]

eugen is free too

[zinc hornet]

yeah this is why i got anchorage this week

[wind hazel]

if you can't unlock anchorage, then maybe cheshire

[whole crypt]

well make leveling your second tank a goal too then since you're doing 12 anyway

[storm heron]

If you have been on pr4 focus for a month then anchorage should be pretty close

[whole crypt]

there's also Cheshire

[dreamy blade]

yeah i have like 400 prints just not the tech

[wind hazel]

worst case there's roon

[zinc hornet]

got roon too

[storm heron]

but I heard roon is not portland level tankiness?

[wind hazel]

it's w12, you only need 2 good tank

[storm heron]

assuming 33% aviation, 33% shelling, and 33% torps

[dreamy blade]

my only pr ships are saint louis and ibuki and almost unlocked izumo

[barren tapir]

take your time there is no rush im working on ancho tech myself

[tame jungle]

Eh you’ll probably unlock fleet tech reqs for anchorage soon enough

[dreamy blade]

will probably work on roon after that until i have the tech for anchorage

[barren tapir]

this event is going to be california tennessee nevada oklahoma parade

[tame jungle]

Besides it’s not like campaign is going anywhere

[wind hazel]

wtf so bad

[whole crypt]

again, zero pressure to actually move on to 13, just keep leveling in 12

[barren tapir]

also beaver squad, i need that

[inner delta]

by today standard is like that

[tame jungle]

roon augment cope

[polar lion]

U guys farming for sushi gun?

[wind hazel]

it's good enough, roon mob tank portland boss tank, done w12

[storm heron]

firstly I was like whaat, and then maybe the one that make portland a bit tankier is luck

[whole crypt]

Roon's augment will probably be pretty good when it comes, given the track record for PR1 augs so far

[barren tapir]

almost definitely good considering every one so far has been good to banger

[storm heron]

given the track, they will balance it by giving bad augment

[whole crypt]

for 13 specifically besides luck Portland also has better AA

[dusk maple]

yes of course, I need a 2nd one

[bold stream]

Maintenance is 2hrs more?

[whole crypt]

why would you not get a second gun

it's always better to have it and not need it than not having it when you want it

[tame jungle]

Roughly 4,5 more hours

[fiery raptor]

aside from bisko zwei, moosushi, enjay and hutten, how do the other URR BBs perform in w15?

[bold stream]

Thanks!

[polar lion]

Dunno I read people said bad gun not used so I thot people didn't bother with it this time around

[storm heron]

who's enjay?

[fiery raptor]

new jersey

[whole crypt]

it's not bad, it's niche

[barren tapir]

tho tbh u can probably use portland just fine in w13 if your other ships are all decent too she is the baseline for a reason

[storm heron]

it has a use for alsace

[fiery raptor]

portkai clears w13 lethal just fine. she did the job for me

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't use it on Alsace

[tame jungle]

pvp

[storm heron]

specifically on magato though

[polar lion]

Alsus use for wut?

[whole crypt]

I don't use Alsace for Nagato META so there's that

[tame jungle]

Sushi gun

[fiery raptor]

iirc she was my bosstank in my w13 clear

[dreamy blade]

I thought Portland had pretty bad aa

[wind hazel]

you can have fun with it putting it on UVH for opsi mob

[fiery raptor]

portland's job is to eat shit but not die and she does it admirably

[tame jungle]

Or champagne for that matter

[barren tapir]

most ships have pretty bad aa by that standard. she's fine, she neither helps a lot nor drags you down

[fiery raptor]

sandy kai was the aa for my bossing fleet

[dreamy blade]

I just remember struggling to meet the aa reqs for chapter 12h bc of her

[whole crypt]

thing is you're going to get the points anyway just buy the gun

[barren tapir]

youd never use portland for aa anyway. the important part is she wont drag down your aa

[polar lion]

Yea I just use mine on UvH off flag. Dun care about the added clear time

[storm heron]

ehhh you only need like how much point for the gold plate again

[wind hazel]

i will farm and buy 2nd sushi gun so that one day i can become washington's #1 power fleeter

[barren tapir]

if this works (a bit more gold AA or levels and it fits 12-4) idk what your issue was

[fiery raptor]

where sandy

[barren tapir]

you only need an average of ~300 aa per ship thats not particularly difficult imo

[storm heron]

wtf this survives 12-4h?

[polar lion]

But do u guys +13 the sushi gun?

[whole crypt]

milestone is more than the gun costs

[barren tapir]

this is 12-2 and i manualled ofc. i wanted the extra core data

[storm heron]

ah I see, might as well just drop some of the gold bps then

[barren tapir]

not in my medal shop that's where

12h doesnt have aa issues btw its basically w12 lol

[whole crypt]

the thing with yamato gun is if you're using it, it's likely a niche boss encounter, and the 18% gun damage is going to make a difference

[barren tapir]

cvs alone was sufficient, especially with air supremacy

[whole crypt]

but it's not a priority over the usual gun recs

[polar lion]

Hmm, is it better to +13 another plygun instead of sushi gun?

[whole crypt]

another q152 probably not, only Plymouth squeezes enough damage out of it compared what you'll get out of yamato gun

[storm heron]

I would personally not +13 anything unless I am sure with those I can clear whatever I need to clear

[fiery raptor]

not even for the likes of felix and otto? or bayard?

[whole crypt]

if you already have +13 champagne guns then shrug

[frank pulsar]

460 is prob better pick than another ply gun, but then again theres a lot of other equips that are better pick to +13 like mog gun

[polar lion]

Yea already hab 3 +13 Champy guns

[wind hazel]

i wouldn't even bother enhancing the musashi gun, until the day you really need to use it

[whole crypt]

the amount of damage you get out of a +13 q152 on any ship besides Plymouth is not likely to trump the difference of a +13 yamato gun

[frank pulsar]

+13 460 is prob a good idea if older player imho, its been used pretty frequently in meta fight recently

[whole crypt]

keep in mind Plymouth has 3 gun mounts, and the other candidates even if they have good damage it's not mainly gun damage

[wind hazel]

real, i 13 it before my amagi was ready

[fiery raptor]

quantity of fire does note make up for the thud of a 3000 pound bullet huh

[whole crypt]

I'd rather use CV comp for Nagato META

[storm heron]

biased nntktt

[polar lion]

I'm just thinking of +13 stuffs to buff up crossfleet barrage to make 1 strike/salvo kill HArbiter runs even easier

[whole crypt]

at the end of the day if you're going to miss, you're going to miss, neither comps are 100% consistent for oneshots without barrage

[whole crypt]

a +0 yamato gun will give you the exact same cross fleet barrage as a +13 yamato gun

[polar lion]

Wait wut? Really? So the added stats didn't affect barrage dmg?

[dreamy blade]

I refuse to manual

[whole crypt]

a +13 yamato gun doesn't add any more stats than a +0 yamato gun

the only thing you're looking at is the FP stat, the gun damage is not a "ship stat" and it doesn't carry onto anything

[polar lion]

Hmm, do I spend plates on a gun or keep hoarding?

[whole crypt]

honestly if you're not sure just don't spend the plates

especially not on rainbow gear

[storm heron]

yeah, I would actually recommend nubi s ask here if they want to +13 some stuff

[fiery raptor]

hi newbie here, should i +13 drek and hindo guns

[whole crypt]

for the record even on nga the rec for Nagato META comps CV is the top pick, Alsace second

[barren tapir]

oh i mean the stats as in surely you have better ships than i do

[whole crypt]

3 IJN CVs are around 90%, Alsace + CVs around 65% according to them

[polar lion]

I'mma spend 360 gold plane plates on La9. Is there any good candidate plane to spend my remaining 2k gold plane plates das been collecting dust forever now or keep hoarding?

[whole crypt]

converging TBs, HVARs

[storm heron]

2k gold plane plates?

[dreamy blade]

tbh looks very similar to what I tried

[polar lion]

Yea hab them +13 those dat I need. Even 4 of the new blue Vit2 mc

[storm heron]

2k?

[fiery raptor]

how many +13 wyverns?

[whole crypt]

not sure how you have that many plane plates, maybe that I've just been enhancing too much junk

[polar lion]

3

[gilded carbon]

Given Musashi doesnt want the Triple 460. Who can make use of it? Better use,at least

[whole crypt]

it's a niche gun that occasionally shows up on showdown comps

[fiery raptor]

i use it on uvh and champagne because of their rof gimmicks

[storm heron]

alsace in meta showdown and harby

[gilded carbon]

Ok, thx

[whole crypt]

and I guess some arb fights yeh

[polar lion]

Yea I've been coping so long with just 1 +13 Ryuusei for slow option for the longest time since I'm coping for UR converge TB

[fiery raptor]

does alsace have fast rld? i know it makes sense for her preload but how about the follow up? is this a helena-less vanguard?

[polar lion]

But it's been few years already but Manjuu doesnt liek they will release UR converge TB

So my plates just kept piling up over the years

[whole crypt]

460 is usually no helena
for Strength because 3rd salvo is usually useless preload+2 can be better

[barren tapir]

yeah the torp requirement was a huge pain

[fiery raptor]

agir hindo ply vanguard? okay gotcha, I'll keep that in mind once i get hindo her 2nd hindo gun and retire her from meta

[whole crypt]

honestly just forget about coping for rainbow converging TBs, even if they added one it's probably going to be research and you'll have plenty of time to save plates again

[fiery raptor]

or is it agir mogador ply

[polar lion]

Okay

[whole crypt]

there's practically no reason to cope for a UR converging TB

[storm heron]

how legit does 4-strike CV on strength harby sounds?

[cobalt rapids]

u can get 360 plates in 2 months which coincidentally matches the amount of time u would need approx for 1 UR research gear

[whole crypt]

my second La-9 is overdue

[cobalt rapids]

luck of the draw

[whole crypt]

4 strike sounds sus for Strength

[polar lion]

But it will feel such a waste to +13 stuffs dat will be phased out once their UR counterpart release just like BF109G and La9 rn

[gilded carbon]

What comp does get played with Champagne?

Im working on her currently.

[whole crypt]

as in using the ship Champagne? you don't really use her very much

[cobalt rapids]

bf served us for 3 years i wouldnt spill even 1 tear over those plates

[whole crypt]

in that case all gear will be phased out eventually by power creep, even current rainbow gear

[storm heron]

I thought strength 8 was hard until I see a person did it 3 years ago, and another person did it in 22s

[fiery raptor]

when you're farming main exp for brest, but richelieu is more reliable

[whole crypt]

to not enhance currently useful gear in fear of it being powercrept in no known time frame is just stupid

[fiery raptor]

ended up using champy because i maxed my richelieu on 125 3million cap

[barren tapir]

i understand where you're coming from but this mentality eventually leads to hoarding all resources until the game shuts down and failing to ever benefit from them as a result

[storm heron]

you just don't, she is tech only

[fiery raptor]

champy joffre and painleve backline shouldn't struggle farming main exp on events

[barren tapir]

better to use it and get powercreeped than to never use it and get 0 benefit instead of small benefit

[fiery raptor]

but for campaign i honestly can't reccomend her past w12

[barren tapir]

use wisely, sure, but don't be so afraid to invest them

[fiery raptor]

w13 mob if you're farming coin but that's about it

[whole crypt]

I don't have elixir syndrome unless it's HELPs

[polar lion]

Yeah will do just dat from now on

[storm heron]

right, imagine having 2k gold plate just to wait for the best rainbow equipments for all ships so you can start on w13, and the game shuts down

[whole crypt]

even if the game doesn't shut down in the time you'll take to actually make the plane you'd have gotten the plates again already

[storm heron]

yeah save HELP for the hellcats

[whole crypt]

I don't need to save HELPs, I'm just hoarding them because, alongside my vouchers

[barren tapir]

well, assuming time is the issue rather than oils

[polar lion]

What is HELPs?

[barren tapir]

the 2x reward/cost thingies

[fiery raptor]

i was planning to +10 rainbow dildos for 15-4 but got impatient and did a probing run and found the +6 sub auxes did just fine, surface boats were just using +10s

[whole crypt]

I guarantee you I already have more HELPs than I can practically possibly burn in an event

[wind hazel]

high efficiency combat logistic plan, i think

[barren tapir]

heclps

[wind hazel]

ye idk why we often omit the c

[barren tapir]

hairclips

[polar lion]

Oh I hoarde gigatons of dat over the years thinking I would need them for grinding event gears like HVARs last time but that time never comes again for a long time now

[whole crypt]

because calling it HELP is cute

[cobalt rapids]

you just dont c it

[wind hazel]

renhex im gonna go to your house and strangle you

[barren tapir]

i have a couple hundred from...somewhere, i'm prolly good for yk2 rerun only used a few for warchives occasionally (tech stuffs yada yada)

[storm heron]

I found that if I 3-cleared D3 in 16 minutes in average, I can spend 126k oil with HELP in 7 days with 3 hours play time each day, which is equivalent to about 6 hvars

[soft dagger]

umi no neko is renhex

[barren tapir]

how many do you even need

[fiery raptor]

yes

[polar lion]

I farmed like 6 HVARs but ended just using liek at most 3 and das pretty rare too

[barren tapir]

well i suppose more never hurts tbf

[wind hazel]

i used 5

[polar lion]

Coz I just brute force 1 strike kill with Mamagi comp vs Temperance instead of using Eagle comp the dopamine Ahh satisfaction moment is just irresistible

[whole crypt]

assuming I can somehow keep running nonstop with no problems of oil, morale, dock space etc. taking 5 minutes a run I have enough HELPs to last 256 hours i.e. over 10 days

[storm heron]

that's 5 minutes a run, imagine a usual 12-4 18 minute run

[whole crypt]

18 min should only be a triple

[storm heron]

oh yea

[whole crypt]

the average not-super-trivial stage clear is usually in the ballpark of 5-6 minutes

[gilded carbon]

Shame about Champagne. But thanks fo the answers. Is she viable in Casual content still? Just for the fun of using her, upping affection and lvling?

[whole crypt]

define casual

[cobalt rapids]

any ship is viable for that

[whole crypt]

you can use almost anythng up to ch12

[gilded carbon]

Event, Stage 6? Possibly Hard-Mode Event stages. Ch.10-12?

[jaunty vault]

sure

[tame jungle]

That’s not exactly hard content so sure

[gilded carbon]

Yeah thats what i meant with Casual. Everything else is Out of my reach anyway, atm

[zenith heron]

Does a rerun of a META ship similar to a Rerun of UR which is 2 years? Or will it be added to the available META pool to fight against like Helena META?

[exotic wren]

huh? hvar? where?

[daring light]

is it true we got less pity in rerun event? i just hear about 200cubes pity for UR rerun instead of 400

[jaunty vault]

thats wrong

[daring light]

so someone gives me some fake hope

[undone plover]

Showdown META (the gold ones) usually get added to dossier 1 year after og release

Purple META get added to META shop
There is no consistent schedule atm since it has only happened once so far
But probably 1-2 years after original release

Some META ships like pamiat merkuria meta are part of event and will rerun with the event

[jaunty vault]

depends on how the META ship was introduced
ships that were introduced as bosses get added to dossier (like helena meta)

[jaunty vault]

you do get free pulls

[undone plover]

Yeah it is same 200 builds for pity but u get 44 tickets
That is what they prolly meant with less pity

[zenith peak]

Who was the next UR after Musashi ?

[south sequoia]

Yorktown II

[atomic abyss]

Yorktown 2

[zenith peak]

o i thought it was implaca, kk thx

[atomic abyss]

Impla is after her

[zenith peak]

Ight thx

[forest palm]

gonna be a lot of URs in the like next what...5 ~ 6 months

sure it'll be broken up by non UR events

[south bear]

Stopped playing for about a year and missed Alsace, Guam, Unzen, Sovetsky Soyuz and Mogador. Dont take breaks kids, youll wait a long time for reruns

[fiery raptor]

aside from Guam, i think most of the roles are covered by Research ships. I'm not sure how the other CB perform as a Guam replacement in a lategame map like w15

but I have seen Brest in the role

[forest palm]

Cheshire is the poor mans Guam

Laffii is the one that kind of hurts a little, otherwise the other could be missed with nothing lost per se

[fiery raptor]

wait, you can use Napoli though idk about her aa

as a cope Guam

[forest palm]

if it were just to tank there's plenty of ships to do that

[fiery raptor]

true, vanguard doesn't really suffer that much even in w15
it's the backline that gets assblasted

[elfin hollow]

just started today, is musashi good to burn all my cubes for?

[south bear]

I see Alsace used alot

[forest palm]

ya sure

[velvet slate]

alsace is the biggest miss of them all imo

[forest palm]

I don't see what she exactly offer other than repload goofiness

at least to warrant her as a must have

[fiery raptor]

why alsace?

[undone plover]

Make sure you read the newbie guide
It is a good time rn while u are waiting for maintenance
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[forest palm]

like the only UR BB that would suck to miss would be BZ, any other UR BB can easily be replaced by another

[fiery raptor]

what does BZ do that the others can't cover?

[crimson glacier]

suck

[forest palm]

her Black Hole is literally the best CC in this game

[fiery raptor]

the blackhole laser?

ok gotcha

[velvet slate]

imagine reducing alsace to "preload goofiness"

[forest palm]

imagine actually explaining yourself

[tame jungle]

[velvet slate]

if all you think alsace does is "preload goofiness" you never looked at her skills, and have no clue tf you are talking about. is not even worth humoring such a horrible take so yeh sure keep thinking alsace is just "preload goofiness"

[forest palm]

congrats you've failed to explain why, and are being arrogant

[tame jungle]

I see a lot of personal attack and not a lot of actual explanation as to why alsace would be a must have

[velvet slate]

telling his take is bad =/= personal attack, and i see no point elaboring on why alsace is more than just preload goofiness because it should be obvious

[tame jungle]

This is very much a personal attack

[forest palm]

[inland shoal]

Correcting others is fine and all, but please do it with sensible statements and not useless things like "You never looked at her skills and don't know what you're talking about"

[crimson glacier]

most reasonable gph take

[weary gust]

Alsace doesn't do anything unique or rare, she's just good damage and a little bit of support.

In terms of "irreplaceable" other ships can fill her role, will only be less damage output.

[forest palm]

I ain't got nothing really more to say to someone that's condescending, and so arrogant that they can't follow the simplest of basic manners

[fiery raptor]

i already have 3 +13 monarchguns for HE but I have gone ahead and made a pair of rainbow mk7s, should i +13 these or is +10 enough of opsi/meta purposes?

[inland shoal]

Not a topic for gph either, so please just stop

[tame jungle]

You kinda wasted materials with the monarch guns there honestly, but what’s done is done
Mk7 is good to +13

[fiery raptor]

i started at the tail end of the first nj event so i got nj but not her gun, only got the 1 from the rerun

[weary gust]

Rainbow Mk7s are the best anti-light BB guns atm. I wouldn't try to +13 three of them though unless you have all your fleets geared properly.

+10 is more than enough for opsi

[forest palm]

if you have other priorities sorted in terms of +13 gear then may as well work on the MK7s

[tame jungle]

Consider that you need your AP sync guns at +13 and after that you can invest in mk7 just fine

[fiery raptor]

largely looking at +10 ing drake and hindenburg guns at this point and a rainbow dd gun for eldridge but otherwise yes, gears are kitted post w15 already

[tame jungle]

No real need to go beyond 1-2

[weary gust]

BB guns would take priority over vanguard guns. I personally would get one copy of each gun to +13 before I start doing dupes of them though.

[fiery raptor]

yes the original mk7 is already +13

[weary gust]

For W15 you'll only be using one mk7 at most though

[fiery raptor]

wait you do? musashi was permanently on the gold triple 41 bossing and BZ was using a +13 champy

my mk7 has been on alsace this whole time

[weary gust]

What you said is a normal loadout for w15. I meant if you're prepping for w15, at the most you'd only have one mk7 in use. Not needed for it.

[fiery raptor]

oh at most, i EN'd it as at least

[rapid grail]

chat i just got musashi, is she good>?

[sharp socket]

im thinking of taking out vanny on my opsi bb fleet for musashi, the others in there are soyuz and alsace, yes idea or no idea?

[zenith heron]

Sorry for the late reply, but I should be expecting Jintsuu META by 2 years due to her being recently released?

[forest palm]

it'd be a comp strictly used for Medium/Heavy, but should be doable

[rapid grail]

you can against heavy armor, no otherwise

[sharp socket]

why wont it work on light

[jaunty dawn]

When does maintenance end

[forest palm]

Musashi lacking a good HE Gun

[frank pulsar]

sushi sucks on light compared to other ur bb

[rapid grail]

musashi has no good HE guns that she can work with, she needs an IJN gun requirement

[sharp socket]

theres no 20s IJN HE gun?

[fiery swan]

Why does that one guy have her already

[frank pulsar]

nope, no good ones

[rapid grail]

Yes

[forest palm]

unless you want to cope with the Twin 410 Kai

[zenith heron]

Which is why Zwei is more used compared to Musashi on comps due to her lack of options via IJN Gun usage only

[frank pulsar]

id rather use fdg than use sushi on light

[sharp socket]

well i can use twin 410 and just pray it syncs

[forest palm]

I wouldn't bother

[rapid grail]

it won't lol

[fiery raptor]

he has 400 cubes for the pity

[sharp socket]

guess vanny stays

[fiery swan]

Don't we have anti fcr

[frank pulsar]

what
theres only hsfcr and afct

[fiery raptor]

the delay aux? who uses that

[frank pulsar]

theres a delay aux for bb?

[fiery raptor]

that purple aux in core

[zenith heron]

I only know the Manjuu aux for delaying CVs

[forest palm]

might be mixing things up

[cursive lark]

The socket does not delay aux

[frank pulsar]

i use the cv one occasionally, but i think id know if there was something as nice as a bb delay aux

[fiery raptor]

Type 98 Delayed Firing Device

[cursive lark]

If you read the skill effect it does not say delay mg rld

[fiery swan]

What does it do then

[cursive lark]

It is just flavor text

[tame jungle]

read the skill effect

[sharp socket]

it reduces main gun spread

[fiery raptor]

oh okay, otherwise I've never seen it used

[cursive lark]

Delayed firing indeed

[forest palm]

ya the name doesn't fit the description

[tame jungle]

luckily the skill description fits the skill effect
but yeah it's not exactly useful

[fiery swan]

Is Fancy really almost as tanky as Anchorage

[fiery raptor]

lol the delay is in the order of miliseconds to prevent the center barrel from fucking with the two either side is it's IRL lore lol

[zenith heron]

No way possible sadly

[fiery raptor]

how about Napoli, just checking for confirmation since she may be my first PR VII

i understand her as anchorage but has damage

[forest palm]

Napoli should be the tankiest ship in the game

[cursive lark]

Anchorage buff survivability more than napoli no?

[tame jungle]

i don't think there's really any content where napoli's extra tankiness makes a real difference

at least, not yet

[cursive lark]

But napoli individually more tanky?

[fiery raptor]

iirc anchorage has the best uptime of the smokers but Napoli has best solo bulk

[tame jungle]

if going to pr7 i'd say go nakhimov first

[zenith heron]

She is supposed to be slightly tankier than Anch from the peeps saying but dmg wise as a Tank, Average to below average at best

[tame jungle]

not that it practically matters since you'll likely be limited by prints anyway

[fiery raptor]

do i need chkalov for nakhimov's best use case becuse i kinda skipped her

[tame jungle]

soyuz, voroshilov, tashkent (+aug) to name a few good pairings all work

[cursive lark]

I'd say go la9 first tbh

[fresh briar]

Is Tashkent useful for operation siren?

[tame jungle]

tashkent is a good gun DD

[forest palm]

Napoli, Nakhimov, Mod VIT, and La-9 are enough for me to say you should skip PR6 to do PR7

[fiery raptor]

so if i have soyuz and tash built, i can proceed stright to nakhimov without chkalov, double checking to dumbass proof against myself.

[zenith heron]

Tash and Soyuz have slows that can pair well with Nyakhimov's, if I am right...

[tame jungle]

how many prints do you have, that's more likely to be the limiting factor

[cursive lark]

Does alsace has a damage bonus or some kind? I am having a hard time understanding alsoup's skill description

[fiery raptor]

i haven't touched pr vii, waiting on hindo's 2nd gun. have about 100+ selectable but nowhere enough to immediately dv 30 on drop.

[cursive lark]

Lemme pull up the desc and quote what I find soup

[zenith heron]

If she hits her volley, she does deal more dmg to the said target

[tame jungle]

i believe the debuff is tied to a barrage (the ray of light that comes down from above)

let me check before i'm talking out of my ass

[cursive lark]

Ok so from what I can infer, her yellow skill will buff her red skill, enhancing from a 10s damage bonus to damage bonus til the end of the bate

[zenith heron]

Its the Holy Judgement Skill, so you are probably right, as long as it hits the target

[quartz jungle]

Not current content, but helps with Repulse Meta one shots

[tame jungle]

when alsace fires:
s1 activates, fires a bomb, which inflicts the holy judgment status (the burn and extra damage)
s2 improves the aforementioned holy judgment status if you fulfill its conditions

[quartz jungle]

"bomb" in this case being the ray of light

[zenith heron]

S1 does have that 12% more dmg to the target for 10 seconds

[tame jungle]

that is the holy judgment status yes
s2 improves holy judgment

[eager mulch]

[cursive lark]

Does that mean alsace in crossfleet just have insane damage bonus?

[quartz jungle]

It's just the S1 barrage with 10 sec damage increase

[cursive lark]

Oh dang so the crossfleet not permanent

Unfortunate

[rapid grail]

repulse meta consistent auto fleet

[cursive lark]

Also is the holy judgement truly random? Or I can see it on barrage datamine for the spread area damage and targeting

[little tree]

~~ how to get amagi chan~~

[cursive lark]

But >

[stoic forge]

Yo this gun good?

[tame jungle]

yes

[cursive lark]

Isn't it tied best for champagne/flan/soy

[rapid grail]

tw player? Yes it is the best BB gun against Medium armor

[zenith heron]

Yes, keep it...

Its an event equivalent version of the Champagne gun if I am correct... with slightly better dmg output

[tame jungle]

all i can see here is that a barrage gets fired, and said barrage is aimed at the current priority target and inflicts the burn debuff

[cursive lark]

"When a target is chosen for the DMG taken debuff, enemies which do not have a similar debuff applied will be prioritized"
What does this mean then, if there is a vanguard debuff on an shoukaku then alsace 12-stack barrage will hit zuikaku instead?

[eager mulch]

heavy construction

[wanton dawn]

are the collab events mainly for collection? the ships arent usually strong right?

[weary gust]

Depends. There are some good collab ships, most are meh, none of the elites are ever worth mentioning.

[south bear]

Rikka Takarada from SSSS gridman is really good, there are others aswell, but shes stands out to me

[eternal basalt]

Chitasa is Aquila-light

[spring bolt]

it just means the debuff will pick an enemy who doesn't have the debuff first

[cursive lark]

Tamaki and Pris, wait idk who is Pris, these 2 battleships are kinda good in the Jimmy BB testing. Oh nvm it's Patricia. Nvm I think most of them collab ships are pretty good, source ectl

[little tree]

~~ to expensive ~~

[cursive lark]

Oh so specificaly her debuff then, got it

[jaunty dawn]

How long until maintenance ends ?

[wanton dawn]

Icic Ty🙏

[tame jungle]

A bit over an hour

[jaunty dawn]

Ty

[rapid grail]

2 years 1 hour and 15 minutes, provided there are no extensions

[wanton dawn]

We do not know abt the ships in the new collab event right

[tame jungle]

Livestream tomorrow

[atomic abyss]

Yami, Haruna, Lala, Momo confirmed
That's about it

[wanton dawn]

Are there leaks for azur lane

[paper ore]

what are the ways in which we get the shipuilding tickets?
theres some in the shop, 6 from login and where else

[south sequoia]

No

[wanton dawn]

Tyty

[tame jungle]

Should be on ingame events menu + in missions tab

[south bear]

some event missions

[paper ore]

ok ty

[forest palm]

missions iirc, also there's a login bonus

[keen sable]

ladder

tickets aren't all free. you have to work a bit to get all of them.

[eager mulch]

event pool is heavy right?

[atomic abyss]

It should be

[leaden garden]

They collabed with To-Love ru?

[atomic abyss]

To love ru Collab has been announced

The stream is in JP tomorrow

[leaden garden]

Oh hell yeah

[stoic forge]

Hello

[spark ridge]

how good do my xp ships (for research) need to be for them to just chill and earn xp for me in world 11 and 12

[eager mulch]

enough to survive

[spark ridge]

use 2 xp, 1 carry vanguard, unicorn, and hope the other mainline can try carry?

so just stack toolbox and survivability and hope they live?

[jaunty vault]

dont need carry vanguard if unicorn

[paper ore]

this is just what I am doing but I do 12-4 at 3x lvl 80 ships if its a ship needing vanguard exp

[jaunty vault]

dont even need unicorn tbh

[spark ridge]

how strong does unicorn need to be, cus mines levelling rn. retrofit but still skill not great

[paper ore]

but I do play on manual

[spark ridge]

hmmm, yeah im only at world 11 rn, pushing trhough. but didnt realise u only need level 80

do i even need good gear on them lmao, or only toolbox for survivability

[jaunty vault]

you need good gear

[paper ore]

I just try and manually evade everything but toolkits and evasion helps a lot

[jaunty vault]

especially if you're planning on using bad ships

[rare wyvern]

Kill em before you have to wonder if they gonna kill you

[paper ore]

and unicorn for heals when the fight is about to end to get additional healing

[spark ridge]

how "good", like any random gold, or gotta be the useufl golds

[paper ore]

but not enough damage for mvp

[jaunty vault]

gotta be useful not necessarily gold
(most gold gear is bad and there's good purple gear)

[spark ridge]

my mainline get mvp 80% of the time. also for unicorn how important is her ship gear. i kinda just put her there for the heals, and other 2 mainline do the killing

[jaunty vault]

as important as any other main fleet ship

[spark ridge]

well i guess while xp farming i can just steal better gear

u can have presets set with gear shared by multiple ships right

[jaunty vault]

you can have the gear preset but cannot use the same gear on two ships at once

[paper ore]

this was my EX stage clear from the roma event that ended recently... so yeah. manually dodge everything

[viscid swift]

EX is a very different kettle of fish

and honestley manually grinding all the 12-1 runs I do sounds like ass

[paper ore]

I do 12-4

[viscid swift]

12-1 or 12-4, makes no difference

[paper ore]

my friends call me a psychopath for it .-.

[viscid swift]

both are piss easy, not hard to set up a fleet even with bad ships to auto clear

not to mention I doubt you're gonna be doing as many runs as someone on auto simply you'll have to concentrate 100% of the whereas the auto player only needs to tap a few buttons every few minutes and they can go afk basically

[paper ore]

true but I want the ships that give exp for the research to get mvp

[viscid swift]

MvP won't matter long term

[jaunty vault]

this isn't about you

[paper ore]

I have grinded 2.4 million exp for Plymouth in 2 days on manual.

[viscid swift]

you can still easily get the grind done in under a week on auto without MvP control

[jaunty vault]

good for you

[soft raft]

That's a waste of time and effort

[viscid swift]

ok, kinda useless though

[paper ore]

thank you

[viscid swift]

given you're still time gated in how soon you can unlock them

[jaunty vault]

not really impressive either

[jaunty vault]

you're welcome 🤗

[paper ore]

nothing is impressive tho is it

[tame jungle]

it's nice to have (for oil efficiency) but it's nowhere near necessary and can be a right pain in the ass

[paper ore]

6 days for a ship

[hollow gust]

You can pretty easily farm all 3.6 in a day

[soft raft]

Ngl it's not even for oil efficiency since oil cap go brrr

[viscid swift]

yeah, I do that pretty much every time a new season releases for all the ships

[wary timber]

its still not done?

[tame jungle]

same cost + more xp = same oil efficiency now?

[paper ore]

true. but I would rather be able to start on the 2nd combat data grind immediately after it opens

[viscid swift]

which you can easily do on auto

[paper ore]

also true. but its a matter of preference for me. I want the bonus exp from the happiness gauge and mvp

[viscid swift]

the XP bonus you don't need to do manual to maintain

[soft raft]

That's not what I meant
Tho tbh overall ignoring PR XP grind, the cost is basically the same, it's just that whoever gets MvP might be different

[viscid swift]

18 battles which is 3 auto runs of 12-1 or 12-4 for the mob fleet still keeps you above 120 morale

and as I said, MvP control is a waste of time and effort

[paper ore]

to each their own

[whole crypt]

just keep playing the game, some 5 years down the road you too will give up on MVP bonus

[frank pulsar]

it took you 5? i gave up after 6 months

[eager mulch]

mvp bonus?

[jaunty vault]

exp bonus, we got new blood in gph

[jaunty glade]

https://i.imgur.com/NCVcacn.png is this past the monthly cap?

[eager mulch]

im new

[viscid swift]

what shop even is that

[jaunty vault]

since when were spec core available for event points

[viscid swift]

this is the first

[boreal wagon]

its a special black friday event

[viscid swift]

and those aren't event points

[boreal wagon]

they kind of are just a different event

[wind hazel]

i assume they work like medal shop

otherwise it would be giga oversight from small indie company

[whole crypt]

I gave up in a week, I'm just being conservative how long it'll take others

[opaque musk]

help, i can't login even though i use vpn

[wind hazel]

i just tested, it exceed monthly limit

[jaunty glade]

ty

[little geyser]

Is the gun any good?

[viscid swift]

niche

[little geyser]

Alright but would it be good to buy when I'm done with the tickets?

[wind hazel]

yes, grab any unique gear from event

[little geyser]

Alright thank you

[spring bolt]

it has higher prio than tickets imo

[eager mulch]

i would not say so

[sinful escarp]

rule of thumb is to always buy the event gear

[viscid swift]

just get them both

12500 event points isn't difficult to get over 1 week

[eager mulch]

can’t get anything with 0 event points

[primal silo]

Anyone have an idea of why it isn't loading up?
I restarted my phone for this

[wind hazel]

the usual, restart app/wifi/change internet connection

[primal silo]

I'll try the change connection then
Have tried restarting app several times

[stark quiver]

Does the spec core in Black Friday shop count towards the monthly limit

[eager mulch]

NO!!!

[coral karma]

Other than musashi are any of the other ships good in this event rerun?

[undone plover]

Haguro is evasion tech at 120

[dawn crest]

Hi, I have gotten Musashishi with a few builds, is best to MLB her now, or wait and use all the tickets before, after all there is a chance for another dupe.

[viscid swift]

the latter

[polar raft]

Does it let yall buy the new Black Friday pack?

[coral karma]

Well I plan to try and get her since I'm collecting all the ultras

[whole crypt]

Unicorn/Laffey cannot 1-fleet this SP

[dawn crest]

thanks

[mental marlin]

is it worth it to buy the black friday lucky bag for 30$ w 1 skin/2024 gems etc?

[viscid swift]

only if you'd be happy with most if not all of the skins you could get

[whole crypt]

lucky bags basically boil down to "do you want the skins in the bag and have already bought all 2x gem packs"

[mental marlin]

its like 50/50, ok thanks

[leaden garden]

I've had these bug ever since 2 months ago, i claim the rewards but im not getting it

[viscid swift]

go to your storage

[hollow gust]

bro did not read the tutorial lmaoo

[whole crypt]

I don't remember seeing a tutorial, but anyway 🤷‍♂️

[stone sluice]

A Noshiro enjoyer

[boreal wagon]

the tutorial is only shown to people who are above the mail limit (for some bizarre reason)

[whole crypt]

even then the tutorial was basically more for "mail management" than actually explaining the resources go to storage

[leaden garden]

When did they add these. I swear it wasn't there when i stopped playing

[boreal wagon]

it touched on it, just not very well

[viscid swift]

a few months ago now

[boreal wagon]

as is normal for basically all game tutorials really

[stone sluice]

A few months ago

[viscid swift]

like in the summer

[whole crypt]

wasn't it around CN anniv

[viscid swift]

either that, June, or July

[spring bolt]

May 30th

[leaden garden]

Oh

[leaden garden]

Of course

[opaque gate]

event gun op?

[spark ridge]

should i save for collab? or is musahi really good, and just hope i get a decent number of pulls during the collab time? Do collabs get reruns, or are they a lot more limited, since musashi will eventually become stndard

[whole crypt]

niche

[opaque gate]

not the best for musashi?

[whole crypt]

build with tickets first decide later
you'll also have better insight on what's in collab after stream

[undone plover]

Depends on fight and enemy not your ship

[narrow ibex]

what is the nlack friday frenzy for akashis fire sale for

[static dome]

T2 XP 🚮 or good deal

[opaque gate]

is it better than champy gun for AP?

[whole crypt]

niche

[spark ridge]

true. and maybe ill watch the anime before then too lmao, is it good?

[hollow gust]

buying anything in that gem shop is trash deal

[whole crypt]

didn't bother with toloveru myself and #off-topic

[opaque gate]

is it worth getting though? the gun

[hollow gust]

you are spending gems in resources you easily get

[undone plover]

F2p gems should be reserved for dock space

If u spend up to you what u value
More dockspace for collection
Oath rings for waifu/meta
skins

gems for coobs/plates is whale territory

[eager mulch]

that person is not a f2p

[whole crypt]

why won't you get the gun, better to have it and not need it, you'll be grinding for points anyway

[opaque gate]

okay thanks

[hollow gust]

even if u never use it, u still buy limited weapons

[whole crypt]

even if you're not F2P there are good ways to spend money, and there are really stupid ways to spend money

[spring bolt]

exp is like the cheapest thing in this game...

[whole crypt]

like the only thing I'd even remotely consider on that list is gold plates

[cobalt rapids]

2.3k gems for 50 goldplates

[undone plover]

Selector*

[whole crypt]

cubes are fine if you're preparing to whale for build anyway, but not recommended in general

[spring bolt]

not a good deal but not something as stupid as rest stuffs

[whole crypt]

name change ticket is literally trolling

why would you ever need to buy one discount or otherwise

[hollow gust]

50 gold plates is a stupid purchase, its not even 1 +13 SR weapon

[whole crypt]

every bit counts

[cobalt rapids]

what is a good gem / gold plate rate?

[whole crypt]

as much as you're willing to pay

[spring bolt]

buying AP every week and i need more gold plates

[warm flax]

Is Musashi powercrept?

[cobalt rapids]

no shes not

[viscid swift]

in some areas yes, others no

[whole crypt]

Depends™️

[hollow gust]

if im spending that much it better give me at least enough to max 2-3 Gold weapons

[jaunty vault]

define powercrept

[deep solstice]

Do I just use the musashi copy for limitbreaking?

[viscid swift]

yes

[whole crypt]

I'm personally not above buying that if I had access, assuming the "discount" holds

[hollow gust]

the packs that are actually worth would be the 200 gems for a dollar

[cobalt rapids]

it holds

[whole crypt]

well maybe come spring for JP

[boreal wagon]

doesnt JP do "black friday" around christmas since last year

[whole crypt]

I remember spring sale, I don't remember if we got anything for x'mas

[boreal wagon]

might be what im thinking of, i just remember they did something last year that was reskinned black friday

[whole crypt]

yeh

slightly different lineup though, because timing

[sinful quiver]

Hi, here i can ask for help about make a team with my ships?? i no understand good how make a good form

[soft raft]

Post your dock in a thread

[sinful quiver]

Okay, let me end a mission and i do

[desert tapir]

D3 is best oil to event points rigjt?

[digital vault]

If i oath Bismarck Zwei, do I get the oath skin or do i have to oath the original Bismarck to get the oath skin?

Cuz i wanna get the oath buff on zwei too

[viscid swift]

you need OG Bismarck at level 100 affinity

[hollow gust]

ytou dont need to do anything

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure you only need to oath Zwei to use oath skin on her

[hollow gust]

just oath zwei and ur good

[boreal wagon]

they removed the requirement u are thinking of cheeky

[whole crypt]

affinity req is only for normal skins

[digital vault]

Lmao ok thnx

[viscid swift]

skin sharing is a mess

this is how you know I'm f2p

[plain saffron]

want to use skin on X, X needs affinity 100. want to use oath skin, oath X

[whole crypt]

but oath skins are weird because if you oath the alt without oathing OG you don't "unlock" the skin entry in memories

[digital vault]

Cuz i saw a skin on Zwei in pvp and i don't remember zwei having more than one skin

[plain saffron]

wait you need 100 on both to use skins?

[boreal wagon]

i believe its only the version u want to use the skins on
it used to be both

[plain saffron]

i see

also stream in less than 24h?

[viscid swift]

should be

[boreal wagon]

roughly 18 hours

[plain saffron]

thanks

[atomic abyss]

#tlr-collab-livestream-discussion

[sinful quiver]

Help about make a 2 good forms with my DOCK

[opaque gate]

why is the new gun considered niche? like what is the difference with its sr counterparts?

[atomic abyss]

too fucking slow

[viscid swift]

it has very high alpha but a glacially slow reload in comparrison

[spark ridge]

i love the sound of that

[opaque gate]

i see, is alpha the main damage?

[spark ridge]

yeah, alpha is the single shot damage

[opaque gate]

i see, thanks

[soft raft]

You won't when you try incorporating it in OpSi BB comps

Have fun trying to sync that to Helena

[spark ridge]

fortunately i suck, therefor thats not an issue

syncing things? never heard of it. helena also not built. is helena better than her meta?

[atomic abyss]

the point is you cant sync it with helena

helena is one of the components of the recommended newbie fleet

you should have her raised

she does completely different things from her meta

helena is basically the best way for a new player to get big damage

[spark ridge]

yeah i dont think i have 1 ship that should be raised properly raised, except for my NJ

[whole crypt]

even if you ignore syncing you can lose damage from not having enough time for reloads

[crimson glacier]

there isnt any benefit for shooting slowly anyway

[whole crypt]

it's slow enough to lose a salvo depending on the fight or your reload tech

[stark quiver]

can someone link me the alsace variation fleet for nagatoM

[atomic abyss]

then get to it
i really hope you have unicorn raised too

[soft raft]

I doubt that NJ is MLB too

[spark ridge]

shes training rn. level 100ish, retro'd

[ivory pawn]

Any point in 3*ing event stages?

[viscid swift]

yes, check the event missions to see why

[stone sluice]

Is the 410mm good for Musashi or better to use the 410mm kai?

[stark quiver]

what rld tech for backline?

[whole crypt]

only once between norm and hard

[whole crypt]

16 CV and max BB I think

[soft raft]

I'm assuming you mean the Twin
The twin 410 Kai is a slight upgrade over the regular one

[atomic abyss]

which 410...
proto triple 410
proto twin 410
purple twin 410
gold twin 410?

[spark ridge]

Only level 114 bc xp is slow lmao

[whole crypt]

it's still less reliably than IJN triple CV

[spark ridge]

xp farming starts getting good at world 11/12 right

[stone sluice]

Purple twin

[atomic abyss]

purple twin 410 is essentially the pre-evolved form of the 410 kai

[stone sluice]

[atomic abyss]

the 410 kai is literally the purple twin 410 put into the gear lab lol

[keen sable]

#gameplay-help message

[novel solstice]

11 is excellent if all you want is the XP; 12 is better for many people because it gives a trickle of cog chips and you always run out of those.

[spark ridge]

ah oke

[hollow gust]

Unzen and Amagiless variation is hella sus

[spring bolt]

ch 11 exp farming is usually not as pleasant as ch 12 btw

[whole crypt]

ask CN, they say kill rate around 65%, I'm happy with full CV

[spark ridge]

oh how come, is 12 easier?

[hollow gust]

65% 🤢

[atomic abyss]

12 is easier yes

[forest palm]

also 11 doesn't drop cog chips

[hollow gust]

Just use this but with Amagi ,I'm running with 95% kill rate , that's over a span of like a month

[atomic abyss]

there are planes, but they dont need much work to be fended off

and you dont get suicide boats and BB fire

[whole crypt]

I'm using triple CV also around the same kill rate, I just see no reason to swap Alsace in when she's holding on to Mk7 for PvP

[spark ridge]

in 12? sandy should make short work of any planes right. do i put her in mobbing bc shell get more use out if it there, or are the planes in boss much worse than everything leading up to boss

[whole crypt]

BB slot reqs are so annoying for low costing

[atomic abyss]

you dont need sandy even

[eternal moth]

Best ships should always go in boss

[atomic abyss]

if sandy needs levelling, then sure use her in mob

already levelled? boss then

[whole crypt]

ch12 is where you start leveling and retrofitting sandy for 13 and beyond

[spark ridge]

levelled as in 120/125? bc i only have 2 ships there so far lmao

[whole crypt]

120 is fine for up to ch13

[spark ridge]

and sandy already retro so should be even more ezpz for ch12. except only level 109 💀

[wind hazel]

it's good enough, as long as your fleet isn't garbage you'll sweep through w12 easily

[mental marlin]

shouldi pull dupes after i pulled one musashi or should i rather safe the cubes?

[wind hazel]

you can even just post your fleet here and let people cook for you

[chilly ether]

Is Musashi going to be added to the permanent UR list after the event?

[wind hazel]

save

[eternal moth]

Never pull for dupes in an event

[wind hazel]

not anytime soon

[viscid swift]

Eventually, give it at least a years wait though

[mental marlin]

but man its so hard to get UR bullins lol

[rapid vessel]

hey, i wanna know if musashi gonna putted into UR exchange too after the banner ended???

[spark ridge]

its a messy group of ships, and its only gonna get messier when i try to figure out how to make my level 80 ships usable for farming brest xp. what level should they be min to like just survive in world 12 for xp farming

also another Q, i saw in some guide that paprenrlyt the standard banner URs sometimes u get free copies in events?

[viscid swift]

It shouldn't take more than 2 months to get enough UR bullins to MLB a UR

[eternal moth]

If you play actively you get 28/year, which is enough for 7 URs

[mental marlin]

u get bullins via the shop and through the cruise missions right?

[whole crypt]

last 2 have been less than a year actually

[eternal moth]

And from event rewards

[wind hazel]

lv90~100, on safe maps.

free UR copy has only happened twice, and it's only a single copy for laffey2 and mogador

-# or did mogador come only at one copy

[mental marlin]

didnt know that thanks

[wind hazel]

did we get 2 mogador or 1

[inner delta]

i think 2?

[whole crypt]

2 same as Laffey

what would be the cheapest reliable fleet for D3

[wind hazel]

ye so don't expect too much of free stuff

[atomic abyss]

2 mogs

the first copy is significantly easier to get

[whole crypt]

running the event and missions gives you about enough for 1 copy, second copy is buying vouchers from event shop

unless you tryharding then you buy first copy with shop vouchers ASAP anyway

[sinful quiver]

Shinamo is worst than enty?

[atomic abyss]

absolutely not

shinano is only worse if she's not max limit broken... which is a comparison that applies to any ship

[sinful quiver]

Oh okay, like my shinamo

[atomic abyss]

ask in #al-general

[sinful quiver]

But both are dps for boss fleet right??

[atomic abyss]

enty is preferred for boss
we would usually keep our stronger ships for boss too (like shinano)

but both can be used for whichever

they're just that strong

[sinful quiver]

Hmm okay

[vocal sigil]

is it worth getting these purple and blue boxes?

[whole crypt]

Enterprise isn't preferred for mob fleets mostly because her skill is overkill for mobs and lack a separate skill set for speeding up mob fights, but it's not like Shinano performs her significantly in that department either

[sinful quiver]

Hmm i seee, thanks i really need learn a lot haha

[viscid swift]

I run Honoka and a DDG

[whole crypt]

Honoka is what, 15 oil? so 24/fight?

[crude fable]

Any of those ships usable and is the rainbow gear in new event worth to get?

[viscid swift]

Pretty much

[whole crypt]

guess can't really go below 22 then, I'm using Nevada with Hatsuzuki

[viscid swift]

I did truly Nevada and such but it got a bit too dicey

[whole crypt]

wonder if Eskimo will make it

[viscid swift]

Yes, and yes

Whether or not they're worth investing in is another matter though

[whole crypt]

fleet 2 full crossfleet though?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[spark ridge]

are there any uses for the rainbow gear rn, or its more just hold on and see if theres a use in the future?

[whole crypt]

strange didn't feel much dicey for me

not with DDG of course

[crude fable]

All of those ship is good?._.

[atomic abyss]

wakatsuki, sakawa are decent
howe and san fran are very good
pola and zara are meh

[soft raft]

Better to have it and not need it later than to not have it and need it later when it comes to event gear in general

[crude fable]

Oh tysm

[hushed sorrel]

hello :) someone got a quicktip for 14-3 and 14-4. i sometimes lose and need the daily repair per run ...

i usually go with:
yuudachi hindenburg kron
shin implaceable akashi

• another fleet solely for the boss fight

[outer walrus]

Is there a priority list for what I've to buy from a new player perspective for the new event?

[low juniper]

The B/D stages unlock tomorrow right?

[wind hazel]

no it's already unlocked

[sage marlin]

heya, I'm looking for a forward CA/CB that is decently tanky and has (very) strong AA. I'm using cheshire for that atm but was wondering if there is someone better? Azuma, Unzen, Kronshtadt, and Ägir are already appointed elswhere, if they were even up for consideration, but other than that I have pretty much all the boats

[hushed sorrel]

the equip will help you the most, if you cannot buy everything important. since it will help you without any cost

[low juniper]

Oh nice

[wind hazel]

Guam if you have her

[sage marlin]

okey, thx

[wind hazel]

[viscid swift]

Akashi is dead weight and you're lacking a BB for interception among other things

[cinder hornet]

is this a daily quest and is it worth doing?

[inner delta]

for cost, no

wait you can do this with tickets, so it's worth

[barren tapir]

use a BB flag and use unicorn over akashi

[forest palm]

3 tickets a day

[hushed sorrel]

i thought that the extra ammo will help. didnt know that a bb is that important

[viscid swift]

You're also serverly lacking any proper form of healing

[cinder hornet]

will we get enough tickets per day? (sorry, this is my first event, well, my first maintenance overall 🤣 so I have little idea of anything)

[inner delta]

it's less about bb is important and more about repair ship is just shit

[viscid swift]

It does but not for the trade off you have to make

[barren tapir]

if you REALLY want extra ammo you can try using fancy with round shot, w14 aa req isnt too bad

and fancy >>>>>> akashi tho might still not be worth over other better vg ship

[forest palm]

there's 44 tickets that you can get, you need a total of 21 tickets for all 7 days of the rerun, so yes

[barren tapir]

but the main reasons ur dying would be from backline being smooshed and not having a real healer

[viscid swift]

Besides on 14-4 you still have to fight a node without ammo even with Akashi which yeah

[cinder hornet]

ok, thanks! and as a new player, should i be summoning for Mushashi?

[viscid swift]

That's not gonna end well

[hushed sorrel]

thanks "aurora" and "to-love ru right after musashi". i will look further at my ships maybe i will find something that suits these needs

[viscid swift]

Just start a thread and post your dock

[barren tapir]

the ship that suits your needs is

[hushed sorrel]

i collect all ships since years, i almost have everyone

no need for any dock post

[atomic abyss]

we do need to know their limit breaks

[hushed sorrel]

i just thought that sr is better then unicorn i will switch them

[soft raft]

Sure you can say you have everything, but what lvl are they? Are they MLB? Etc etc

[barren tapir]

musashi + unicorn + whatever and ur good, ez

[viscid swift]

OK let me rephrase, what's missing then, and what's not maxed of the relevant ships, also what gear are you using

[soft raft]

Higher rarity does not always mean better
This especially goes for a higher swath of older SRs

[barren tapir]

if musashi isnt mlb then fdg,, if fdg isnt dev30, then

[hushed sorrel]

i didnt miss a single day for years almost everyone is may limit breaked

[viscid swift]

Unicorn is basically a perma slot for any mob fleet

Musashi, Aquila, Unicorn then

Basically the best mobbing backline for campaign

[eternal moth]

I just got a couple more copies of Musashi. I really need to figure out what to do with these UR dupes

[rare wyvern]

Are fate simulations worth the blueprints if I want to switch to other ships before ? (All my catch-ups are spent)

[hushed sorrel]

i only dont have houstin 2, new orleans, janus, enterprise z16 and brünhilde

[soft raft]

Huh how do you not have Enterprise

[eternal moth]

Is that HMS Enterprise?

[soft raft]

Unless you meant the British one

[hushed sorrel]

the epic one, wasnt in the last wish-you gacha

[soft raft]

Ok so the British one

[viscid swift]

Elite not epic

[hushed sorrel]

oh yes sorry

[hushed sorrel]

thy i will try that

[eternal moth]

The only ships I still need are Albion, Attilio Regio, and Suffren. Albion was just added to special, so I'm hopeful I can get her soon. Just need to wait for the right events

Anyone remember what the normal cut-off for wishing well is? I assume Albion won't be in the next one.

[opaque gate]

wakatsuki good?

[atomic abyss]

~6 months iirc?

[eternal moth]

Thanks, that sounds about right

[atomic abyss]

decent gold DD
not a DDG

[opaque gate]

thanks

[barren tapir]

when do wishing wells typically happen

[viscid swift]

CN and EN Anni for EN

[atomic abyss]

CN anni, EN anni

[barren tapir]

[undone plover]

Which is May and August

[barren tapir]

as expected ig i can only get attilio may 2026, rip. ty

[tardy shadow]

can someone explain what the item in black friday shop can do pls?

[inner delta]

it's weapons skins

unless you talking about something else

[eager mulch]

what item in the Black Friday shop there’s so many of them be specific

[tardy shadow]

oh i see

they are skins

thx

[fiery swan]

Is Helena's swimsuit available in Black Friday

[viscid swift]

yes

[fiery swan]

Can you choose to get it or only as random

[eager mulch]

pick helena swimsuit

[viscid swift]

you can directly purchase it

[opaque gate]

firebrand good?

[eager mulch]

not particularly

[opaque gate]

compardd tk bwrracuda and brguet?

compared to barracuda and breguet

[crisp wadi]

They changed how rerun work right? Usually its from beginning and i need to 3 stars it again. Or its been like that for a while?

[crimson glacier]

been like this for years

[eternal moth]

Firebrand is only good in that you can make a Wyvern from it.

[opaque gate]

ok thanks

[trim path]

how much oil does retro'ed anshan cost to run?

[forest palm]

retrofitting doesn't change oil cost

[trim path]

oh. what impacts oil cost? rarity and lb?

[sweet delta]

According to slash wiki an Shan, it is 9 oil

[soft raft]

also ngl oil cost isnt really a thing worth worrying about unless you're like min-maxxing B1 for maxinum oil/xp efficency

[sweet delta]

Base rarity, lb, levels

And random ship exceptions like yuubari, oite, and others

[trim path]

i was contemplating building her and replacing yuudachi for event clears but ill refrain for a 1 oil difference

[barren tapir]

build her anyway

[cobalt rapids]

what time does QEM spawn knights

[trim path]

is she used elsewhere than 1:1 fleets?

[sweet delta]

0:39 iirc

[cobalt rapids]

thanks

[opaque gate]

musashi first or uvh?

[forest palm]

Musashi

[opaque gate]

tyy

[sweet delta]

Good for some challenge modes and other bosses. She's basically a cheaper and better yuudachi

[barren tapir]

ddgs are very good anti light ship iirc

[trim path]

alright, i'll get started on her. her retrofit item is in protocore, right?

[tropic tusk]

nj uvh vangard who should i repleace with musshi

[reef flume]

UvH

[tropic tusk]

musshi flag right?

[forest palm]

ye

[tropic tusk]

vanguard last spot?

[sweet delta]

But then again you already have so many top tier ships, Anshan would only be used for 1:1

[tropic tusk]

or nj last spot?

[forest palm]

doesn't matter for those 2

[tropic tusk]

ok 3q

[trim path]

is this answering for me? do you know my fleet

[sweet delta]

I know your dock on 2024 October 22

[pearl compass]

Is there no oil cost limit for the event stages?

[soft raft]

D Maps only

[sweet delta]

There is

[trim path]

oh, that makes more sense than you being a mind reader. guess i'll hold off until i feel the need. ty

[pearl compass]

Ah I haven't gotten there yet. Been redoing them and wondering, thanks!

[tropic tusk]

wt a date

[eternal moth]

D3 should be best map to farm for points right?

[soft raft]

yuh

[fringe hedge]

Soo I got mushahsi from 4th try and how should I upgarde her and use her?

[sweet delta]

With UR bulins

[eternal moth]

Give her a twin 410

[wind hazel]

i farm b3

[rare wyvern]

Do both B3 and D3 drop a SR ? Does D3 even drop one ?

[soft raft]

D is the hard mode version of B so yes they both are able to drop the shop SR

[barren tapir]

yes and yes

[rare wyvern]

Nice

[barren tapir]

why b3 tho oil efficiency?

[wind hazel]

yes

[barren tapir]

interesting what are you using for it?

[wind hazel]

ranger downes

4 oil for 80 points, very good

[barren tapir]

nice nice

[wind hazel]

but D3 drops izumo gun, kinda nice if you need it

[rare wyvern]

What is izumo gun ?

[sweet delta]

B3 is the new B1 for this event?

Truly a crossfleet power creep moment

[soft raft]

Triple 410 from PR1

[sweet delta]

Triple 410mm but pr7 daisen gun is better anyways

[rare wyvern]

Ohh, juicy

[wind hazel]

suchi is daisen gun better on sushi for w15?

[sweet delta]

Purple he

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 damn

[agile harness]

theres a better gear for shima?
because i feel that can be stronger

[forest palm]

for what content

[sweet delta]

Quad magnetic torps

[agile harness]

i dont have that torps since that event already passed

[tame jungle]

the other quad magnetics

[agile harness]

W13, 14 and 15

[south sequoia]

Theres another quad torp

The one thats similar to what shima is holding

[tulip thorn]

Which boxes is better to open to farm these?👉 👈

[south sequoia]

The quint mags are shit outside of its rainbow counterpart

[south sequoia]

Any box but its better if you just farm campaign

[tulip thorn]

Nooo thats a waste of oil :c

[south sequoia]

W9+

[tame jungle]

also farm event

[south sequoia]

You get everything else with the white plates

[agile harness]

that aa really helps shima...?

[barren tapir]

farm b1 or b3 with oil efficient fleet this event or something i guess

[south sequoia]

^

[wary timber]

Which of Musashi's skills should I level up first?

[tame jungle]

all of them

[south sequoia]

Any

[forest palm]

it can, yes, and it's better than what you're using either way

[south sequoia]

Unless you absolutely need musashi rn just level up whatever first then get them all to 10

[tulip thorn]

I farm in 14-1

[south sequoia]

No

[barren tapir]

that's your problem. w13+ don't drop gray plate

[tulip thorn]

Gotta farm those cogs

[white agate]

Why stag tho? Is there a reason for getting hit over aa?

[tame jungle]

crits

[south sequoia]

Then do w12

[rare wyvern]

55mm AA bad ? Even for being an accelerator ?

[tame jungle]

yes

[forest palm]

STAAG is an accelerator itself

[wary timber]

Also .... Musashi gun worth leveling too? Or should I just keep it as a trophy

[tulip thorn]

Is it better tho? I need exp too

[wind hazel]

keep trophy until you need it

[rare wyvern]

Guess I'm gonna craft all my hazemayers for the DDs then

[south sequoia]

It drops cogs and gray plates

[sweet delta]

It's one of the best accelerators
.
.
.
But ||accelerators are of questionable effectiveness ||

[barren tapir]

higher world is better for cogs but w13+ don't drop gray plates like i said. so you have to farm w12

[forest palm]

don't

[undone plover]

Ch14+ farmers buy these in medal shop I think
Can also low cost event b stages for these but that is a bit

[rare wyvern]

What would you advice as AA on Destroyers and generally ships with a low AA stat ?

[tulip thorn]

Already bought them :c

[barren tapir]

if u have the time to low oil b stages and need white plate might as well i guess

[sweet delta]

I haven't farmed 12 for 3 years and I still have 3k of each gray plate

[tulip thorn]

I dont mind spamming chests tho

[kindred kite]

is musashi a must pull?

[rare wyvern]

I usually but a sex on an AA carry and accelerators on the rest

[cobalt rapids]

open blue boxes for most plates per box
open purple boxes for more plates per time

[south sequoia]

Hazemeyer/Staag/Twin 134mm (for fp)

[tulip thorn]

Gimme

[barren tapir]

i feel like opening boxes for plates is more cursed than low oil farming

[agile harness]

you cant put that aa in shima...

or theres a better option

[sweet delta]

Staag for minimal damage increase, or Twin 90 or twin 113 for AA

[south sequoia]

You can

[tulip thorn]

Its a sacrifice i must do

[south sequoia]

W12 or bust

[remote quarry]

I get all my grey plates from retireing or enhancing, then scrapping the gear

[barren tapir]

funnily enough my issue is blue plates, over 1k+ of all but under 100 aux but my whites are fine

[stark quiver]

Do Yorktown skins work on Yorktown 2

[south sequoia]

Or you can go ahead and spend your hours away opening blue and grey boxes praying for planes

[rare wyvern]

High AA damage over reload ? Is it because the AA damage loss is not worth the average cooldown reduction ?

[sweet delta]

Range is important too

[eternal basalt]

If affection = 100

[queen jackal]

are reruns always one week?

[south sequoia]

Typical event reruns yes

[barren tapir]

you don't have to, you're choosing to

[rare wyvern]

So then, the sextuple is still good for my AA carry ?

Alright, that's nice to have this insight

[tulip thorn]

I need those cogs and exp tho :c

[rare wyvern]

I now understand the "ectl bad"

[barren tapir]

w12 exists, also there's an event right now anyway

[oblique canyon]

I doubt they'd screw us like that but the packs with specialized core data don't count towards cap right?

[tropic tusk]

is there a way to not show this screen every time on battle?

[tame jungle]

they don't

i'm capped already this month and it still adds

[barren tapir]

do the spec core in the black friday point shop count to the cap?

[tropic tusk]

so its a must to see that screen

[tame jungle]

as i just said black friday cores don't count towards cap

[barren tapir]

has to show until clearing mode

[tropic tusk]

[barren tapir]

oh ok, i wasnt sure bc the other question was only about packs

[tropic tusk]

its soo annoying

[rare wyvern]

Fleet lock my beloved

[tame jungle]

i could not imagine spec core in paid packs counting towards cap LOL

[tulip thorn]

Yeye ill farm the event

[barren tapir]

not the paid packs, the point shop

[tame jungle]

he was talking about the packs

[barren tapir]

i know...that's why i asked about the point shop

[tulip thorn]

(ill spam it just to farm affinity with the rare ships)

[tame jungle]

and i answered about the point shop already

[oblique canyon]

Never know how greedy a company might get one day. Manjuu treats us better than most

[barren tapir]

okay good. i just wanted to clarify bc again, he only asked about the packs lol

[tame jungle]

and now he has an answer to both

[barren tapir]

yes, thank you. again i just wanted to clarify

[tame jungle]

he bought one and got one free black friday deal