gameplay-help

[storm heron]

better shelling, better durability, better secondaries

[sharp socket]

however nelson has better stats

[fresh briar]

Does nelson good or what

[tame jungle]

Nelson does good

[crimson glacier]

only stat that nelson has better that matters is CL secondaries

[barren tapir]

nelson's barrage is still pretty consistent honestly but yes she works better in high pressure places to ensure 3 stacks happen before her first shoot

[fresh briar]

Well does Queen Elizabeth good for chapter 12. I might not gonna use her

[crimson glacier]

QE just sucks in general

[sharp socket]

i doubt the suicide boats are that hard early on anyway so DD secondary for hood shouldnt be that bad, i used her all the way until half of w13 and she worked well for me

[storm heron]

keep in mind hood is cheaper than nelson

[barren tapir]

100 fp doesnt matter?

[crimson glacier]

yep

[fresh briar]

How about Enterprise and the bunny girl

[tame jungle]

Enterprise good
No idea which bunny girl

[crimson glacier]

enty is really strong and no idea who is bunny

[barren tapir]

ok what

hood requires gold bulins, nelson does not. nelson does need retrofit, but hood needs augment which is only somewhat cheaper

[fresh briar]

Its an Ur

[storm heron]

retro bpsgone

[undone plover]

Does nelson’s special aux not maker her barrage 100%
I never used it when I was a newbie

[crimson glacier]

ok, more?

[tame jungle]

Still no clue who is bunny

[sharp socket]

new jersey, ignore

[barren tapir]

id pick nelson solely because she doesnt eat gold bulins at a time when those are pretty scarce tbh, since theyre pretty comparable otherwise when both are invested

[sharp socket]

get musashi coming in a couple days

[storm heron]

I mean I also support nelson

[atomic abyss]

increases the proc rate with secondary gun fire

[barren tapir]

it does if the tank gets hit 3 times in 6 seconds which doesn't always happen. but also all you need is a plane or two to love tap nelson and itll be done

[fresh briar]

Does new Jersey good because if it's not I'll put her to my dorm

[crimson glacier]

one of the worst UR BBs

[atomic abyss]

she will not be good for you at the moment

[barren tapir]

ehm what?

[tame jungle]

NJ Not worth investing in

[crimson glacier]

she is good but UR bulins are really limited

[fresh briar]

Meh

[crimson glacier]

so you might want to save them for the better stuff

[spring bolt]

i mean, seriously, musa is only hours away, get her and mlb her, she will carry you to ch 12 with one fleet easily, no other ship has that kind of power

[storm heron]

greygoose was right

[atomic abyss]

oh sorry not secondary gun fire

[barren tapir]

nelsons thingy stacks when she gets hit, up to 3 times. the aux makes some dmg on the vg tank transfer to her for 6 seconds (while also giving her an hp shield)

[atomic abyss]

what the fuck are you talking about

[fresh briar]

How about the shimikaze
Amagi Cv
The German ship no idea what is her name
Shinano

[crimson glacier]

ah yes the german ship

[sharp socket]

more ehp for a ship that shouldnt get hit enough for it to matter

[barren tapir]

at 3 stacks her barrage is 100% chance and she also has 15% fp and acc buff

[storm heron]

german ship how little it narrows down ok nvm its uvh

[tame jungle]

Probably ulrich

[fresh briar]

I had no idea what is her name

[undone plover]

That is what I was wondering
Does the shield negate the hits and prevent the 100%?

[fresh briar]

It is like a tomboy girl

[tame jungle]

You can look at the names ingame

[barren tapir]

and i cant see why anyone'd say nelson and hood stats are comparable, nelson has 100 fp and 15% over hood and 25 acc and 15% over hood, and 5% main gun efficiency and 20% secondary efficiency (after hood's augment)

[storm heron]

shield still count

[fresh briar]

It is Ulrich

[sharp socket]

please just read the names or screenshot them

[barren tapir]

no, the hits show up as 0 which counts. however, evasions do not count, which is why the thing won't always stack up

[fresh briar]

I'm just lazy to put the name and I have bad memory

[storm heron]

aurora is actually surprisingly good in knowing nelson

[tame jungle]

Then don’t bother us if you don’t want to put in that elementary amount of effort

[barren tapir]

to be fair i should mention hood has 600 more hp

[spring bolt]

nelson or hood, both useless, get tirp for ib tech

[tame jungle]

We could’ve done it in 1 message

[fresh briar]

Then don't answer it

[barren tapir]

i have their wiki pages up atm for comparison lol

[tame jungle]

Anyway
Shima ulrich not worth
Amagi cv very good
Shinano also very good

[wind hazel]

musashi tomorrow best

[fresh briar]

Ight

[tame jungle]

Shinano should be limit broken using her dupes from exchange

[spring bolt]

save for musa, and if you have more bulin, do amagi

[storm heron]

hood has more rld, more AA

[atomic abyss]

Look - if you want people to help you, then ask properly
No one here has to answer your questions if you're going to be deliberately vague about it

[storm heron]

again not advocating hood, I still support nelson

because it's bc eva vs bb fp

[barren tapir]

w11 did have 'enhanced bombing ships' that gave me some trouble...

[fresh briar]

K

[storm heron]

and guess how many bcs are relevant

[barren tapir]

0?

is there a UR bc

[storm heron]

iirc no

[atomic abyss]

there are no UR BCs

BCs are still relevant due to HM slots

[barren tapir]

maybe the bc eva will be a nice addition when we get w14 hm that requires BC slot

[spring bolt]

once upon a time i said aux is important in ch 10 and 11 but people told me that it's not 2018
while new players are using 2017 ships in 2018 contents until they over level the fleet and get their hands on augs and lab aux guns

[prime kayak]

Where can I get old demi canon?

[hollow gust]

Event , too late now

[storm heron]

Bruh the name

[prime kayak]

i only get one but its only @ first tempesta event...

[storm heron]

Oh it's good then, you only need 2 if you are running two tempesta main fleet concurrently

[prime kayak]

nvm i miss to farm t5 event map

[fiery swan]

Yet another MLB priority thread

[soft osprey]

got wales. i presume she's just collection and wife material right?

[hollow gust]

Fleet tech and that's all

[soft osprey]

well

not unexepcted

[tight parcel]

Currently still at 3-3 just how far can I last in campaign just using this formation

[atomic abyss]

far (w9) if you swap out some ships

replace long island with a battleship like pennsylania or nelson
and replace portsmouth with helena

i would also replace eugen with portland

[atomic abyss]

but these are the must changes

[hollow gust]

Unicorn Pennsylvania/Nelson Taihoe
Eugen Helena Laffey in that order

[rancid mural]

Unicorn is bonkers can confirm

[rare wyvern]

Any up to date fleet maker tool ? The ones I tested did miss stuff

[forest palm]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[leaden garden]

How do i use the secret ticket that i get from the log in reward

[forest palm]

those are for the ASMR thing...kind of useless

[leaden garden]

Oh.. how do i use it 😏

[wind hazel]

menu>memories>secrets

buy any that is available to you

[leaden garden]

Thanks!

[rare wyvern]

What are the decent USS BBs/BCs for NJ's buff ? Kearsarge slaps but pretty sure she doesn't get the buff for being a BBV

[forest palm]

you can just ignore that

[rare wyvern]

I do already, but I wondered

[atomic abyss]

none of them are URs save kear

so its pretty pointless

if you so desired, indiana and constellation

[rare wyvern]

Yup, I run NJ/Kearsarge/Sara and it's already pretty damn deadly

[hollow gust]

Why Sara

[rare wyvern]

But me faction fleets (also I rather used the USS fleet for mobbing, my alternative was Enty)

[tame jungle]

faction fleets are usually shit

[rare wyvern]

Also, any particular node to farm when cleared in OPS ? Or a corro 6 in the center will do ?

[tame jungle]

mobbing fleet = mandatory where uni

[rare wyvern]

I actually don't remember if I got past W13 with that USS fleet, or with my HMS (with Perseus) using just Sandy for AA (I didn't have Scylla then)

But yes, shame on me for using faction fleets, worked so far so shrug

[forest palm]

we will never recommend faction fleet here, and always discourage it doesn't matter who you are, or what you think works that's just simple fact that faction fleets are significantly worse off

[rare wyvern]

Oh I know, it just was my way of collectioning and building fleets so far, but recently I just start to not do it to get past the hard content

[muted ember]

how long do rerun banners go for?

[cobalt rapids]

1 week usually

[fiery swan]

Why are faction fleets bad

[tame jungle]

mediocre ships with mediocre buffs < strong ships without faction buffs

you're often too restricted with the roles you're trying to cover with your ships

[south sequoia]

It's also more expensive because you want to slot in more optimal ships from that faction

it's more cost and effort to form them rather than mixing them with other fleets when their performance isnt close to mix fleets peak performance

[atomic abyss]

now if the aforementioned faction buffers were actually good ships themselves, the convo would be different

[fiery swan]

But it's fine to have 2-3 ships of the same faction for paired? (eg Chinese vanguard with Yat Sen)?

[atomic abyss]

yes, that much is fine since you're not gimping your whole fleet for that

[opaque gate]

should i now craft flapjack or wait for bearcat?

[atomic abyss]

flapjack is better

bearcat is a ... floatplane

[tame jungle]

there's a gearlab bearcat non float

[opaque gate]

how about tigercat?

[atomic abyss]

the other bearcat is worse than the tigercat, which is worse than the flapjack

[tame jungle]

but that bearcat is 1x 1000lb

[opaque gate]

i see, so i should prioritize flapjack

[atomic abyss]

it isnt bad by any means, but you wouldnt craft it unless you dont have mats for flapjacks

and you want to utilise the +10 hellcats lying around

[opaque gate]

should i goand craft flapjack now? or wait for othercraftable

[atomic abyss]

well it is a high prio, but not the highest prio

[opaque gate]

it will be my first flap and first craft

[spice phoenix]

should i craft the drake gun (0 copies) or the georgia gun (1 copy)?

[atomic abyss]

if you've already crafted your wyverns and have enough german converging TBs, and you intend to clear w13+

wyvern first then

[opaque gate]

ok thanks, so ill skip flap?

[atomic abyss]

come back to it later

[atomic abyss]

using what resources

[fiery swan]

#gameplay-help message how far in main campaign can I challenge with these ships (see screenshots)

[opaque gate]

damn so i still need to craft firebrand and firecrest

[atomic abyss]

all the way with the right gear

esp if you grab musashi tomorrow

[fiery swan]

I currently don't have any gold or higher gear lab gear

[viscid swift]

That would be a handi cap

[atomic abyss]

then forget w15 or even w14

you'll be camping out in w12 for a while then

prioritising coins for research and exp for your ships

[fiery swan]

I have some event and research gear

[viscid swift]

That's not gonna be enough, you want at least a few pieces of gear lab gear for W14

[fiery swan]

From most events starting from October 2022

[viscid swift]

And for W15 most people are not gonna get away with clearing with minimal gear from the lab among other things

[fiery swan]

In that case how far in opsi can I get

[viscid swift]

Pretty much everything can be done short of harbiter

[atomic abyss]

enough to clear normal arbiter and abyssals and strongholds

yeah hard arbiter is prolly the only thing you cant clear

[fiery swan]

Opsi into main campaign clear

[fiery swan]

Can I get you and maybe a few others into the thread

[analog bluff]

Guys, New Jersey is Good?

this girl

[atomic abyss]

yes if she's max limit broken

you wont have the resources to do so though, so ignore her for now
use the UR bulins that you do have for musashi, who is a better, limited UR coming back tomorrow

[analog bluff]

okok

[novel solstice]

If you play regularly, you should be getting enough UR bulins to max limit break one of your URs in two to three months.

[warm pivot]

what stage do you guys farm for gold?

[tame jungle]

12-4

[analog bluff]

nah, im loving this game with the auto mode

[wet badge]

idt a beginner can get musashi

[tame jungle]

depends

[atomic abyss]

They can if their luck is decent

[wet badge]

unless hes a gambling god

[atomic abyss]

Consider the game also gives you 40+ free rolls

[tame jungle]

also depends on how beginner they are

[novel solstice]

I farm in 12-1 instead of 12-4, it's a touch easier for leveling junk ships that I want XP on while I get gold.

[atomic abyss]

I saw a "beginner" here with 400+ cubes lmao

And that's after they dumped 150+ cubes into tempesta

12-1 has better exp to oil ratio, but worse coin drops

So it depends on your goal ultimately

[barren tapir]

41.2% probability in 44 free pulls, so honestly, pretty likely if supplemented by some cubes here and there

granted, a total beginner likely wont get all 44 free pulls iirc some need event progress to b3/d3? dont recall

[soft raft]

Hopefully you got her from the 400 Pity, not from pulling perma Heavy/Special

[barren tapir]

LETS GOOO
With 30 pulls
unfortunately, they did pull perma

[soft raft]

Bruh

[barren tapir]

for future notice, do not pull on permanent heavy/special banner

[umbral wadi]

Hey do I use ingraham or kazagumo?

[vagrant harness]

I got fancy, amity, and ganj in under 30-40 pulls. My unluckiest was prolly shinano 1st rerun and i was past 150 pity but i didnt get her that time.

[soft raft]

they both do different things
Ingraham is a DD with decen amounts of AA for her hulltype
Kazagumo is one of the top picks for buffing CVs

[rare wyvern]

With all that advice, 14-3 goes on a lot easier, but for now I pass chill enough with Haku and Perseus replacing Volga and Uni.

What formation should I use though ? Single or double line ?

[soft raft]

Hate to be rude but literally who asked
#al-general or #trophy-room if you really want to talk about your pulls

[wind hazel]

double line

[umbral wadi]

I’m quite new and not sure what I need for my team.. can I send a ss of my team and mah you tell me who would work better?

[soft raft]

double line
Also I would rather use UniKai+Volga in the mob, ditch Perseus entirely, and have Haku on boss

[soft raft]

Post your dock in a thread

[umbral wadi]

What does that mean

[rare wyvern]

Uni and Volga are not at the good level, I am in the process of xping but just took a temperature check on the level. It goes fine enough, although, the main fleets feel really dangerous and thoroughly hurt my main fleet when mo(r)bbing

[wet badge]

HUH

dang thats a high chance

[soft raft]

then stop pushing W14 for now and go back to W12 to grind lvls
you clearly sound like you're struggling to clear it

[soft raft]

This

[rare wyvern]

Manual is enough for me to get past 6 fleets and kill the boss

[umbral wadi]

Fleet building!!

[eager mulch]

blaster working hard in gph today

[analog bluff]

30*

and ok i will

[wet badge]

what gun is musashi good with

[viscid swift]

Twin 410mm, daisen gun

[coarse heron]

The Twin 410 Kai

[wet badge]

oo

[soft raft]

Triple 410

[wet badge]

ok ill try get that

[gilded carbon]

The Twin ones are easy, Boxes and cheap gear-lab

[urban magnet]

Who should I get once I reach 400? Shimakaze is fully upgraded and I have 1 mk3 bullin to fully upgraded 1 of 3

[soft raft]

Shinano > Everyone else

[urban magnet]

get shinano?

[soft raft]

Yes
also wdym you have 1 UR Bullin to fully upgrade 1 of them>

[urban magnet]

limit break to tier 3

[soft raft]

which needs 4 UR Bullins not 1

[wind hazel]

show your UvH Shinano and NJ

[urban magnet]

they are all in tier 2

[analog bluff]

guys wich banner i should pull?

[wind hazel]

1 light today

[wind hazel]

pull UR event tomorrow

[analog bluff]

okok

[soft raft]

Oh so you spread out your bullins as well
Christ

that frankly explains alot

[wind hazel]

maybe from dupe

[tame jungle]

[eager mulch]

and here i thought they were TEX

[urban magnet]

yeah, sorry for the lack of explanation

[tame jungle]

ok so do not spread out your bulins, they either all go towards one ship or you save them until you can do the former

[urban magnet]

think my brain was half asleep

[analog bluff]

how i can get those Cores?

[wind hazel]

hard mode

[tame jungle]

playing hard mode stages

[eternal basalt]

Hard Mode

[soft raft]

grinding hard mode
higher world = more core data per run with the max being 30 per run in W13

[analog bluff]

oh tysm

[urban magnet]

huh, I just checked and turns out shinano is fully upgraded, no need for limit break.

I swear it was tier 2 few minutes ago

guess I'll limit break nj

[wind hazel]

well dont use your UR bulin

just keep the copy until your next pity copy again, then MLB

[eternal basalt]

Keep UR Bulin for Musashi

[sharp socket]

is daisen gun AP?

[wind hazel]

yes

[sharp socket]

are there other AP options for w15

[urban magnet]

I got shit ton of Musashi in the previous run

[wind hazel]

for musashi?

[sharp socket]

yes

[wind hazel]

uh... izumo gun, but im not sure if that's recommended

[forest palm]

460?

[sharp socket]

cause i might not go to pr7 for a long time

[eternal basalt]

But... the 4 perma aren't maxed out?

[forest palm]

Musashi be awkward like that

[wind hazel]

im also not entirely sure if daisen works better than using twin 410kai go ping the nerd

[forest palm]

triple 410 should be fine enough

[sharp socket]

and going to pr7 just for 1 gun seems like a waste of time

[urban magnet]

I got 5 out of some dumb luck

[wind hazel]

dont you have alsace?

[sharp socket]

i do

but musashi is best for w15 mob right

[eternal basalt]

But if you played since orig Musashi don't you have specialised core through your nose?

[wind hazel]

think so, but other BB are viable too

[urban magnet]

what was the specialized core

[sharp socket]

who is the w15 expert i can ask about this

[soft dagger]

sutiguma

[wind hazel]

suchi i guess, or riceist

[soft raft]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[sharp socket]

ill go bug suchi then ty

[urban magnet]

oh it's the thing that resets every month

[cinder hornet]

I can't keep progressing through the main story for now, should I start any other parallel content (like war archives) or just grind stages to level up?

[urban magnet]

I'll be honest, I sometimes forget that's a thing and

[tame jungle]

there's gonna be an event starting tomorrow, go grind that

[urban magnet]

It's been rotting in the storage since I started this game

[cinder hornet]

oh, nice timing, I'll wait for tomorrow then, thanks!

[eternal basalt]

Don't have something like this?

[urban magnet]

I do, I just never used it

maybe once or twice a year?

other than that I rarely used it aside from retrofit items and once or twice for bullin

[eternal basalt]

Well, max out your URs...

[forest palm]

wild concept

[sharp socket]

so after reading the w15 guide, it seems like i need a really good mob fleet and a slightly less powerful boss fleet

[swift holly]

how do i change my Operation Siren fleet

[soft raft]

Go to a Blue port -> Order -> Fleet formation

[swift holly]

whats dat

[sharp socket]

but also a good normal boss/mob setup for the stages before 15-4

[bleak mica]

holy crap I'm amazed

[swift holly]

ah ok

still only have 2 fleets

[eternal basalt]

You'll unlock 4 fleet in OPS chapter 2...

[swift holly]

figured, now i only need to xp grind 2 other fleets

[lucid dirge]

Whats drop rate of super rare ships in war archive?

[eager mulch]

no one knows

[eternal basalt]

All we know is 60 runs is 100%

[lucid dirge]

So it impossible to farm sr ships in war archives and you can get only 1 copy of listed ship?

[cobalt rapids]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[urban magnet]

think I skipped an event just to get Bremerton

[eager mulch]

you can farm them infinitely, its just that you get a free copy after your first 60 clears

[urban magnet]

then I got her from gacha few weeks later

after getting her from 60 runs

[cobalt rapids]

skipping event for wa is big dummy move

[eager mulch]

there is no event rn though

[urban magnet]

well I am stupid so

[soft dagger]

cheeky neko

[eternal basalt]

Also B3 drops, but 60x only counts D3

[cobalt rapids]

you got the wrong person

[soft dagger]

i'm confused

[cobalt rapids]

cheeky is belfast pfp

[eager mulch]

cheeky neko is what happens when you combine cheeky and umi no neko

[wind hazel]

OTP

[soft raft]

🌈 we have no idea 🌈

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[boreal wagon]

umi already answered smh
well mutiple people did but u get the point

[soft raft]

TFW discord didn't load properly

[eternal basalt]

Excuses

[swift holly]

should i use Theseus or Unicorn

[crimson glacier]

Unicorn is the best healer in the game

[swift holly]

so, i suppose shes good for OPS

[novel solstice]

My standard opsi mob fleet is unicorn + any five ships that need XP. She just carries them through most content.

As a healer, she's not useful for boss fleets. But for mob fleets she's amazing.

[swift holly]

aight

[atomic abyss]

excellent for anything involving mob fleets, campaign and opsi

[flint cosmos]

Hey guys, I heard that the 1st and 2nd pack will give you specialized core (the thing that you use to buy UR Bullin), but if my specialized core has reached the limit (5000 each month), will I be able to receive any more core from these packs

[narrow ibex]

is plymouth a tank or off tank

[atomic abyss]

while she is tanky enough to off tank, but her purpose is a DPS + BB support

[swift holly]

ight

[plain saffron]

need to wait until the day to know for sure
also skill is upside down, literally unplayable

apparently the pack not in JP so can't get more detail, usually Jp have more detail

[eternal basalt]

Wait for x-mas

[flint cosmos]

Hope that it will still let us receive, cause if it doesn't bypass the limit, then what is the point...

[atomic abyss]

for the casuals that dont grind

[plain saffron]

knowing them it could be 50/50

[eager mulch]

have to remember small indie company

[zenith locust]

Is this good?

[hollow gust]

It's between barracuda and wyvern

[zenith locust]

so stg like a substitution until I get a wyvern?

[stone sluice]

Is it worth to equip Brest a french dd gun or better to go for the 100mm kai?

[soft raft]

I just gave her UR AA to fulfill her French gear req

[analog bluff]

who is the best CA and CL for my Team?

[eager mulch]

why ca and cl

where Portland and helena

[eternal moth]

This isn't a game that requires CA/CL/DD

[soft raft]

You use ships based off of their role, not their hulltype

Only place where hulltype matters is hard mode requirements

[stone sluice]

The only french AA gun I have is the one that looks like a trash can and it sucks

[eternal moth]

I recommend reading through this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[desert trellis]

whats the best way to get 40mm quadruple bofors type 3

[barren tapir]

get portland and helena from guild shop if you havent already

[soft dagger]

tech box

[desert trellis]

is Quadruple 40mm Bofors (Mk 2 Mount) or Octuple 40mm Pom-Pom better

[analog bluff]

Ok i got helena and portland

[soft dagger]

quad

[desert trellis]

uhhh is it feasible to grind quad through 11-3

[soft dagger]

no dont grind gear on maps. especially when its gold

[atomic abyss]

no, just open tech boxes for AA

[desert trellis]

i see, thx

[stark quiver]

does a d3 low cost fleet just consist of uni + ddg

[jaunty vault]

depends on the requirements of the stage

[atomic abyss]

very rarely do you get a CVL + DD lock tho

[jaunty vault]

then again, i just full fleet D3

[keen comet]

Guys, I have a question:

I saw that some people said that HE and AP ammunition are good, but what about SAP ammunition? Are they good or so-so?

[hollow gust]

You generally don't judge guns primarily from ammo type , still depends wether the gun is good or not

[soft raft]

Specifically for anti-med but depending on the specific gun, it sacrifices anti-heavy damage to do so

That last part is why Marco gun isn't recommended since Champy is more flexible

[hollow gust]

The SAP BB gun is not recommended, however the sap dd gun is . It's reliant on how good the actual gun is

[narrow ibex]

does using the the 2x oil thing double the xp you get for the prship developement

[soft raft]

Yes
Think of the 2x plans as doing two runs at once

[deep solstice]

Who should I catch up on after fdg? Haku or agir?

Also why does agir autocorrect to shit

[jaunty vault]

doesn't really matter

whoever you plan to do first

[elfin hollow]

trying to make a mob fleet

who do i switch out

[viscid swift]

mob fleet for what

[elfin hollow]

just for campaign

[viscid swift]

which campaign stage

[elfin hollow]

on 10-3 rn

[viscid swift]

what are all of the options you have

[eager mulch]

not much of a mob fleet without a healer

[elfin hollow]

my options for main fleet

[stark quiver]

It’s time to raise unicorn

[elfin hollow]

and vanguard

[opal stirrup]

hey I got a quick question is the first skill gonna be replace after retrofit, if that so it sound like a nerf for Shouhou

[viscid swift]

Mob: Alsace, Perseus, Formidable, Zara, Magdeburg, [filler]
Boss: NJ, Shinano, AvP, Fresdrich Karl, Sirius, Henrich

[atomic abyss]

additional, not replace

[elfin hollow]

oki

[atomic abyss]

if it's replace, they'll say replace

[opal stirrup]

great worth it to be invest

[atomic abyss]

like this

[viscid swift]

you really want to look into leveling other ships soon and also ditch the non MLB URs, they're shit

[opal stirrup]

okay second question then, is Tai Yuan good for a farming 1:1 fleet?

[viscid swift]

An Shan or Chang Chun would be better

[atomic abyss]

her skill wants her to be in a full fleet...

based on stats alone she's excellent, but you might as well use CC or AS as said above

[civic hollow]

btw how much affinity do I lose if exhausted attack?

Never did it although I am like level 128

[elfin hollow]

how dare u treat your ships porrly

[civic hollow]

They need to be grinded

[elfin hollow]

[civic hollow]

It's for them to become strong, their own good

[rare wyvern]

Is it worth to grind this for half xp anyway?

[atomic abyss]

i dont believe it's recorded anywhere
but assume that its much harder to gain back

[civic hollow]

hmmm

[atomic abyss]

you also lose the stat bonus from 100 affinity btw~

[rare wyvern]

Also upset shipfu

[viscid swift]

personally I don't bother grinding with ships below 120 morale anymore

[atomic abyss]

just put the ships in the dorm

thats why you have it

[civic hollow]

fuck need to get different American ships to grind pr....

[atomic abyss]

^

and grind higher maps

[civic hollow]

I grind 12-4

[rare wyvern]

They will fight until I get the sadness pop up

[elfin hollow]

locking and favoriting them also increases their affinity btw

[viscid swift]

and you lose the 20% xp bonus if you do

[viscid swift]

no it does not

[rare wyvern]

Oh that's fair actually

[elfin hollow]

wait it doesnt??

[viscid swift]

nope

[elfin hollow]

i swear they have higher affinity than my non favorited ones

[viscid swift]

probably because you use them more

[elfin hollow]

i see

[civic hollow]

I still regret deleting some common ships....

because my poor ass couldn't afford dockspace

[elfin hollow]

forget the common ships

[civic hollow]

Noo 😭

they are cuteee

[soft raft]

they're called common rarity for a reason

[opal stirrup]

I see I'm not the only one

[elfin hollow]

i retire ur ships i dont like

we are not the same

[misty leaf]

what is the max amount of J crow we can get?

[rare wyvern]

Power move

[soft raft]

iirc 2

[misty leaf]

or is it 3?

[inland shoal]

Wtf stop retiring my ships

[atomic abyss]

2

[misty leaf]

ok, i thought i lost one of my J-crown

[civic hollow]

besides I think there's more rare ships in the game than common nowadays kek

[rare wyvern]

Retire UR ships and run Kent main tank

[civic hollow]

so common ships are more rare than rare ships

[atomic abyss]

they havent added any new rare ships for like, 3 or even 4 years now...

[civic hollow]

sadge

[rare wyvern]

That's not how it works

[inland shoal]

Nah you can also see the limit in the shop where it says Limit 2/2

[civic hollow]

I still have cygnet comet and crescent level 100 from the times where we could farm fuel

[elfin hollow]

btw is there a way to change your fleet for op siren

im stuck using ships i dont like

[civic hollow]

yes

[atomic abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-gif-25770903

[hollow gust]

[atomic abyss]

[civic hollow]

ender why do you have that on a gif

[elfin hollow]

ohhhh

ty guys

[atomic abyss]

i found someone uploaded it as a gif so i kidnapped it

[boreal wagon]

gifts are also usually nicer than videos for most users

[atomic abyss]

well you can pause videos

[boreal wagon]

yeah but most people have auto play gifs is what i mean
then again i think discord got rid of that setting i cant remember

[frank pulsar]

nah my gifs still auto play on mobile and laptop

[swift holly]

whats the command for a loadout again cuz i needa focus on maxing my Unicorn and refitting her

[jaunty vault]

you can uhh set them to not play

there's no command for a loadout

[swift holly]

gear

good gear for her

[frank pulsar]

i think you meant /equip? theres no command for exact bis gear setups or anyt like that

[jaunty vault]

/equip is the one you're looking for i reckon or /tierlist

[frank pulsar]

for new player just use hellcat, barracuda, staag/hazemayer and steam catapults

[jaunty vault]

tall order for new player

[frank pulsar]

if you dont have access to gold equip can just use purple corsair and tenzan, and quad bofors or smth for her aa gun

[jaunty glade]

What gear lab item is most important to craft first, is it Wyvern?

[forest palm]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[forest palm]

Wyvern is a good one to do

[jaunty glade]

but from this list, what is the best to get first - i understand priority based on ship

[ivory pawn]

Wyvern’s #1 when it comes to Electronic parts.

[atomic abyss]

wyvern imo

[stark quiver]

Wyvern, and then get stuff based on what you need

[jaunty glade]

ty all

[ivory pawn]

While you’re gathering those up, you can look at stuff that doesn’t cost Electronics.

[jaunty glade]

is it more effective on amagi cv or shinamo?

[tame jungle]

Both amagi cv and shinano can use it. You’ll generally want your best planes in the best slots

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[eternal moth]

[little geyser]

can the lucky bags only give skins for ships you own or is it just everything

[eternal moth]

It should be anything.

I've gotten a couple skins from lucky bags for ships I didn't have at the time

[little geyser]

oof

[boreal wagon]

they can even give u a skin u already own if it is part of the bag (in which case you get the gem value of the skin in gems instead)

[little geyser]

oof then the bag is a no go for me

[novel solstice]

Getting a skin for a ship you don't own is an incentive for you to go out and get that ship, from the dev's perspective.

[little geyser]

oh true

[eternal basalt]

Imagine how abusable it would be if not, just own ONLY the l2d ship each time...

[shell willow]

you are giving them the same amount of money so idt they care

[eternal basalt]

It's a 4 euro loss per transaction, they care

[upbeat wagon]

should i use xp packs to progress shipyard

or should i convert them

[soft raft]

always convert
XP is the easy part of research

[rare wyvern]

Is SG Radar any good like, any sort of ship ? Hit and EVA sounds good but also kinda not good considering it has to replace something else

[cobalt rapids]

for helena

[rare wyvern]

[tame jungle]

Helena for the skill toggle

[rare wyvern]

Thank

Time to keep farming 12-2 for Halford (apparently my fleet is better off there than 12-1 somewhat)

[sweet delta]

I don't think a Halford with 5 blueprints will be very useful

[tulip thorn]

3 BOSS FLEETS FOR OPSI

[eager mulch]

more useful than a halford with 1 blue print?

[rare wyvern]

Well she'll vibe until I get to do the PR7s

Which I should because Daisen, Bayard and Nakhimov are already in my dock although barely developed

[eternal moth]

None of the ships are any good until dev30, so feel free to get them up, but they won't be actually useful for a couple months or so

[rare wyvern]

Yeah, I like owning the ships still, and my high level vanguard ships are already pretty solid, but perhaps I'll just dip in Brest for the level-up

[stark quiver]

what stat is soyuyz's icebereg scaled off from/

[tame jungle]

FP

[soft raft]

Honetly not like there's much else for it to scale off of tbh

[stark quiver]

i thought it had a set damage 💀

[bright glen]

Any news on Musashi rerun? Feels like I've been waiting for a decade

[eternal moth]

Tomorrow

Next time, try reading #game-news

Or patch notes

[bright glen]

Thanks

[eternal moth]

This is currently in-game

[forest palm]

[noble osprey]

Hello , im on 12-1 right now trying to improve my fleet, im researching Agir to replace Portland abd retrofitting San Diego to replace Chapayev, I would love some tips on the next ships to research or weather i should switch a ship for another in my fleet.

[viscid swift]

well next ship you should be trying to research is FDG

[eternal moth]

Kazagumo is the first ship I see that you really need to work on

She's not necessarily great for campaign, but she IS really useful in CV fleets for metas and OpSi

[noble osprey]

Thanks, FDG after Agir it is 😁, who should she replace on the main fleet though?

[eternal moth]

Are you trying to one-fleet 12-1?

Because I only see Elbe and Sandy in fleet 2

If that's the case, the first thing you need to do is make a full second fleet for bossing

[noble osprey]

Hmm, it seems i really dont have a strong 2nd team since i usually clear everything with only one fleet and focus on levleing those ships. So building a strong 2nd fleet should be the next priority?

[eternal moth]

For chapter 12 and 13 you can run triple CV in mob and single BB/double CV for boss. Enterprise would be good to move to boss in that case.

[zinc hornet]

does the private quarters provide any benefit to regular gameplay? any loot or permanent stat buffs or anything?

[eternal moth]

Nope

[zinc hornet]

awesome, thanks

[noble osprey]

I see, in that case i need more good CV ships, my only strong ones are unicorn and enterprise

[eternal moth]

Saratoga and Independence would be good for mobbing, and are easy to get

They do require retrofits to be good though, and Sara needs her augment

[noble osprey]

I really do have them, altough theyre only at lvl 10.

[sweet delta]

Note that you don't NEED 5 carriers for chapter 12-13, especially if the fifth carrier is worse than your second best BB

[outer knot]

I was gonna buy eldridge from merit shop but I realized her retrofit item was from an event and isn’t in the proto shop yet, how long does it typically take for those to enter the shop? or do the events ever rerun?

[eternal moth]

Yeah, you could easily run double BB in boss, and then you'd only need Enterprise in boss fleet

[sweet delta]

They will rerun or be added to shop, but expect at least a year

[outer knot]

gotcha thank you!

[eternal moth]

I could see Hood/UvH/Enterprise being solid

Nelson Kai or Hood with aug, who would you guys take?

[sweet delta]

Nelson is better later

But there's a very long retrofit queue

[soft raft]

Hood useful for Hard mode BC reqs

[noble osprey]

Do you mean for boss or mobbing? Also is Unicorn for mobbing or boss team?

[eternal moth]

Hood/UvH/Enty would be your boss fleet, although Nelson could easily replace Hood. Uni should always be stuck in mob

[noble osprey]

I dont mind retrofitting Nelson since i have plenty of blueprints for her, would she fit better than Hood after the retrofit?

[eternal moth]

She's already higher level, and doesn't need the bulins Hood does, so she'd be my choice

[noble osprey]

Hmm sounds great, any tips about the vanguard? Im rocking with Z23, Chang Chun, and San Diego right now

[soft raft]

that vanguard needs a tank
Z23 and Chang are too squishy and Sandy isnt bulky enough

[eternal moth]

Portland, Helena, Sandy, Z23, Chang Chun, and Chappy are all fine for vanguards. I'm not sure if Chappy's tanky enough to be mob tank, but it should be close. If she is, Port/Helena/Sandy would be my choice for boss, and Chappy/Chang/Z23 for mobbing, assuming you are able to finish Sandy's retro and get her aug

[noble osprey]

Hmm thats great, so Agir would fit into the boss fleet right?

[trim sparrow]

If you guys had to choose between huan chang or patricia or fubuki (both without augment module) to work on

[soft raft]

very meh, easily replaceable, and easily replaceable (I'm assuming this is collab Fubuki not the DD or Hololive one) respectively

[cobalt rapids]

huan chang provides tech albeit for bc
patty is good iirc is locked to 20s+ guns if no aug
dk how fubuki without aug squares up

[trim sparrow]

Yea BB fubuki, running out of BB that im interested in just leveling

[soft raft]

Have you already gotten all the RLD, FP, and HIT BB tech done?

[trim sparrow]

Yea tech is all done

So dumb for missing out on the collab ship modules. Cant even remember if i actually went the event or just did pulls. Ill just go with fubuki and hope shes decent. Right on

[cobalt rapids]

ah fubuki rly suffers from lack of aug it unguarantees her barrage

so shes losing 30% barrage dmg on avg

[trim sparrow]

Dammit haha

How about the CV collab Yumi without module? Suffer a lot as well?

[cobalt rapids]

why are u not getting them augs

she loses her slow supp but yumi wasnt that good anyway

[trim sparrow]

I cant remember i know i went through a phase where i really wasnt playing at and just doing pulls for the events

Alrite yea im thinking too much about it ill just use them for the hell of it. Right on for the insight tho

[cobalt rapids]

good luck

[dusky stream]

Okay trying to figure out 15-4, just 3*'d 15-3. mob fleet vanguard is just being a little too squishy and losing health fast on the first air support fleet battle.

[eternal moth]

What are your fleets?

[dusky stream]

mob

[eternal moth]

Do you have Musashi?

[sudden sparrow]

Cool beans.

[dusky stream]

boss

[cobalt rapids]

whats ur gear and are u using subs??

[dusky stream]

Nope. Gotta wait for the rerun for her. Anyway the problem is that the mob vanguard fleet is just getting damaged by the air swarms and the healing isn't keeping up

[eternal moth]

That sounds like an AA setup issue

Who do you have for the support fleet, and what gear do they have?

[dusky stream]

Soyuz/Uni - twin 40 bofors, Guam Twin 57, Sandy Roomba, Eldrich Sex 40

[crimson glacier]

seattle looks kinda deadweight

[eternal moth]

Yeah, but it sounds like it's not that fleet that's dying

[dusky stream]

boss fleet, not even worried about that right now tbh until I can fix the mob fleet issue

[crimson glacier]

easiest way is by getting musashi

[cobalt rapids]

can you post ur whole mob fleet gear

[dusky stream]

Lusty / Lusty u / Centaur, skyrockets x2 / cuda / steam cats on both lusty, centaur has shinden kai and cats

[crimson glacier]

isnt centaur kinda garbage

only 4 fighters

isnt like langley and chen hai much better

[dusky stream]

let me get into fleetbuilder, one sec

[cobalt rapids]

this what they should be running and run double line if vang has issues

[analog bluff]

how i can get those crystals?

[cobalt rapids]

arbiter/meta dupes(when event stages drop em or gacha ) / voucher shop and idr where else

[plush bone]

and weeklies ?

[crimson glacier]

you sure that gun is better for sandy?

[cobalt rapids]

yea weeklies

what would u run on sandy

[crimson glacier]

wouldnt the same gun as eldridge make her aug go boom

[sudden sparrow]

Some gun with good +AA

[eager mulch]

twin 100mm kai, improved quad mags, sextuple bofors, rudder toolbox

[sudden sparrow]

That's what I got for Sandy. All I need is more tier 3 gear plates.

[cobalt rapids]

either should be fine, mog gun is stronger on st that i know

[crimson glacier]

and im just asking

[eager mulch]

is it worth farming mirror involution for riddles?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[crimson glacier]

riddles?

[sudden sparrow]

I think he means rudders...

Idk...

[cobalt rapids]

he talks in riddles

[hollow gust]

Better to swap Eldridge and Sandy guns around

[dusky stream]

can you post ur whole mob fleet gear

[cobalt rapids]

i dont think it matters much

[hollow gust]

Damage for Sandy is noticeable

[vale spindle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource check here

[cobalt rapids]

are you saying 100kai > mog gun ?

[hollow gust]

[cobalt rapids]

ig i can check it on scorpio

[hollow gust]

Isn't that the Elbing one? That's to test on

[cobalt rapids]

why

[cobalt rapids]

does she have any mechanic that would skew the results?

[hollow gust]

Actually ykw it should be fine

[crimson glacier]

does sandy aug have any cooldown

[boreal wagon]

it doesnt but the barrage can get cut off in some situations if the gun is too fast

[hollow gust]

Ricest has talked about how buggy that barrage can be , so damage can be off

[crimson glacier]

nice to hear that they are keeping up the standard AL quality

[soft raft]

Smol indie studio pls understand

[hollow gust]

also another reason why the shitty CN predictions of her dps sucks

[crimson glacier]

they include the bugs in their calcs or what

[hollow gust]

nah, im pretty sure they basically include all barrage damage despite the fact that you will miss portions of barrage and bugs

[crimson glacier]

oh you mean the prediction itself sucks

i read it as her dps sucking in the prediction

so many different kinds of suck in here

[hollow gust]

her dps is like 10-15% below ply? could be less

[uneven oyster]

Should i do officers sword or bowgun for my bb augments?

[hollow gust]

just use sword for bbs,

[eternal moth]

Bowgun is only good if you're specifically targetting heavy armor

[hollow gust]

they are slightly better in other cases, but honestly way too compicated, so just slap on the sword

[hollow gust]

well if you consider plymouth is the standard of good dps nowdays sandy has like on average 80-90% of plymouth damage. For example on elbing, both running full defensive gear, ply did 909k and sandy did 721k

thats far below the copium of "near" plymouth dps gph was on the day of sandy aug release

[forest palm]

well the bug does throw a wrench into things cause what can be tested on paper will be higher, but in practice it'll be lower because of that bug, so the question is how much that bug is affecting her damage

[cobalt rapids]

my 100 kai isnt +13 but lets be generous and give it a 50% split between mg and all her other stuff on 100kai and its still behind
so yea

[hollow gust]

ur mog gun was doing better?

[cobalt rapids]

left is 100kai right is mog

[hollow gust]

i had both guns maxed out, my runs were alot closer, it was like a 5% difference between guns and kai was doing better

[analog bluff]

is a good formation?

[cobalt rapids]

offensive aux ?

[analog bluff]

( not my main formation but i think can work )

[forest palm]

no, the main fleet is pretty bad, bulin is not a usable ship, nothing is MLB either

[hollow gust]

i brought defensive auxes

[cobalt rapids]

hm same

[soft raft]

From left to right and back to front:
Dogshit, useless at 0LB, Dogshit, Decent, Decent but not worth SR Bullins early on, and wtf

[storm heron]

read this guide https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/

[hollow gust]

also in general the total flee damage on the right is higher, your fleets damage in general spiked more

[cobalt rapids]

mine are on 15% difference which means sandy needs to have like a 85% split between mg and her barrages/torps and aoa which sounds abit sus to me and
for 100kai to pull ahead i dont even know

[analog bluff]

guys this is me and my Formation ( wait )

[hollow gust]

left fleet was doing 189k less damage , damage numbers are skewed

[storm heron]

delet it before someboday send you to algen

[analog bluff]

ok ok

[soft raft]

that wasnt even funny ngl

[analog bluff]

ik

[storm heron]

anyways that guide is the most useful guide for newbs and teach you lot of stuffs

[hollow gust]

so a more accurate conclusion can only really be drawn by probably killing the boss, and also maxing both guns

[forest palm]

someday Manjuu will give us a punch bag

[soft raft]

[cobalt rapids]

maxing both guns yes, kill the boss why? that would mess with total damage rotation of sandy which now we can have it set on 10 min exactly

also u tested on hard right not on easy

[hollow gust]

who tf tests on easy, healing backlines will pop that boss before 10

[cobalt rapids]

i remember seeing some

[hollow gust]

also do more runs

[cobalt rapids]

mby tomorrow, ihav to get rid of my oil

[hollow gust]

my numbers werent that skewed

[analog bluff]

bro That was the worst gif I could have posted on a server out of nowhere ( srry guys )

[hollow gust]

[dusky stream]

Boom.

[hollow gust]

okay?

[dusky stream]

Didn't need that many changes, swapped out Eldridge's gun for a rainbow 100 high angle and replaced sandy 's roomba with a sex40 and that took care of business

[hollow gust]

well u have guam and laffii, shouldnt be failing in the first placce ol

[dusky stream]

Yeah just got a little short on AA in the mob fleet

And the carrier swarms were hitting the vanguard in the mob fleet a little too much

[cobalt rapids]

shimanto gun on sandy isnt it

[soft raft]

did you try hightailing it towards the Supercarrier node at the start?

[hollow gust]

honestly soounds more like poor target selection then your fleet being bad

[dusky stream]

Yup, was getting eaten up by the first one. Minor fleet change fixed it.

Still got eaten a bit but nothing healing couldn't handle later.

[eager mulch]

[dusky stream]

Thanks for the help, time to burn a bit more oil to get a couple more clears in before the next event.

[storm heron]

[hollow gust]

so for accuracy sakes i ran the same backline and got 1.36 million for my sandy with 100kai, still waiting on the moggy gun

could also be that single target favors a stronger and slower gun

[cobalt rapids]

yea im pretty sure on heavy it outperforms mog
and mog should win on med
i remember tests on sandy cm earlier put mog ahead on light even more but because barrage hitrates on sandy were bad

[hollow gust]

Eh 30k diff, nowhere near as egregious as your results

[cobalt rapids]

this aligns pretty exactly with my calcs aswell

not sure what u mean by egregious when our results pretty much align

[quartz jungle]

Does the single 113mm outperform the 100 kai against heavy on Sandy?

[hollow gust]

well guess not egregious but the gap is wider

[cobalt rapids]

i mean ply has a 25k variation herself
cant rly be pinpoint accurate

[hollow gust]

maybe the more accurate way of comparing damage is by comparing the percentage to ply,

[forest palm]

take it to paper testing what could possibly go wrong

[hollow gust]

paper testing sandy has ply damage

[forest palm]

[storm heron]

[analog bluff]

uhum

how i can level up more faster? i mean the account

[forest palm]

stuck at world 8?

[analog bluff]

3

[forest palm]

well CMD XP is affected by the amount of ships you use, and battle rating, outside of that not much else affects the XP you get, and pre-world 8 is a struggle, so you have to rely on War Archives, or Events to get nodes with Oil Cap which helps with the CMD XP grind, alternatively if you are a dolphin you can just buy the CMD Lv pack

[analog bluff]

okok

tysm

[sweet delta]

Single 113 and single 76 are bad on sandy compared to real damage guns

Single 113 is around 80% of twin 100 kai on both light and heavy, and twin 138.6 is even better than 100kai

[eager mulch]

[woeful compass]

hello guys does og bismarck’s oath skin wearable by zwei?

[cobalt rapids]

if u oath zwei

[woeful compass]

i see you mean i need to oath them both?

[cobalt rapids]

oath the one u want the skin on
if u want the skin on zwei u oath zwei
if u want the skin on og u you oath og

[woeful compass]

i see that help thank you

[forest palm]

[analog bluff]

who is better

[storm heron]

all is tech-only

[forest palm]

None of them are useful to an early to mid game player

[warm flax]

Do they sell every skin in Black Friday

[forest palm]

I believe there's a cut off point for outfits, and nothing from collabs

[analog bluff]

[viscid swift]

the cut off this year is June 1st

[eager mulch]

what happened after June 1st

[forest palm]

the end times

[storm heron]

[opal stirrup]

Guy what is this and how to use it

[dusky stream]

3 = unlock a voice track from one of the shipgirls

memories / secrets

[undone plover]

hit that arrow then memories then secrets

I think somtimes they release limited "secrets" so u might want to hold off on a few just in case

[opal stirrup]

Could I use that to unlock memory like this too and how?

If no then how to unlock it?

[dusky stream]

no, it's just for the audio tracks

That said, the akashi quest line starts with tapping her lots and lots of times

[opal stirrup]

Bruh

Time to annoyed some shipgirl then

[dusky stream]

... and ends with giving her back one of her rings 😛

[eager mulch]

[leaden garden]

Which one is better for Kronshtadt
Triple 155mm Main Gun Mount or Prototype Triple 152mm DP Mk17 Main Gun Mount

[sweet delta]

Do you have both?

[leaden garden]

Yes

[sweet delta]

Triple 155 is not good as a vanguard gun so mk17 is better

[leaden garden]

Oh alright Thanks!

[obsidian ivy]

I assume no, but did JP server ever do that skin discount coupon thing that black Friday in EN does?

[whole crypt]

not that I remember but I don't think I got anything last spring sale

[formal bronze]

does this also apply is bismarck zwei?

[stone sluice]

How much the effect is decreased?

[forest palm]

15% decrease on the OoA debuff iirc

50% → 35%

[sweet delta]

An additive 15% so the actual effect is your fleet does up to 30% more damage (usually like 25% more because of other modifiers)

[whole crypt]

main fleet does 30% more damage compared to base with the no ammo penalty

[sharp socket]

choice of gun on subs dont matter much right

[storm heron]

I wonder how much does subs (not IXs) gun contribute

[stark quiver]

almost nothing

85% eff and around 80 fp is not it

[storm heron]

the whole fleet rng is even greater than the subs' gun damage

[whole crypt]

that's the least of it, the guns aren't even used until they surface

[frozen inlet]

whats the best way to get t3 cruiser retro bp?

[eager mulch]

Hard mode X-2 where X > 2

[sudden sparrow]

Y'all, who do I give my cog arrays to?

[viscid swift]

NJ, Enterprise, maybe AvP

eventually Unicorn

[rose cosmos]

350 cubes for musashi wish me luck bros

[wind hazel]

you dont need luck, you need coin

[rose cosmos]

Only 150k coins

[eager mulch]

you will earn more coins and cubes but you won’t need that many cubes to hit pity

[storm heron]

luck will always be needed, since if you're lucky you will spend 0 coins. Good luck

[wind hazel]

you have more cubes to hit pity, so worst case is always coin

[eager mulch]

[sharp socket]

should alsace or soyuz be flag for my opsi bb fleet

[storm heron]

pretty sure none of them requires flag

[sharp socket]

yes but which is preferred

[hexed glen]

Whichever one you like better.

[storm heron]

Ender says they do not care

Unless the fight has special modifier like the current strength then you would flag alsace to get plymouth buff

But then you have a challenge mode which makes soyuz stronger than alsace, so soyuz would flag

[haughty star]

The J-class crown worth purchasing?

[viscid swift]

unless you use J class dds a lot no

[eager mulch]

is amagi-chan a J class dd?

[viscid swift]

no

[eager mulch]

[sharp socket]

is javelin a J class dd

ty time to waste core data

[storm heron]

everything here should work right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[stark quiver]

british naming system is funny

[storm heron]

so are we just gonna be riceist?

[eager mulch]

who’s riceist?

[fluid brook]

a person

[eager mulch]

is he in the room with us right now?

[fluid brook]

wait hold up, he isnt in the server

[jaunty vault]

yeah he comes and leaves as he pleases

[sharp socket]

can d25 brest offtank for opsi cv fleet

[wind hazel]

but why

[jaunty vault]

sure can

[eager mulch]

just like me, gn cooper, i have an exam tmrw

[sharp socket]

because eld cant tank enough for my cv fleet to hit harby more than 2 strikes

so i take out sirius for brest

[fluid brook]

Good Luck

[jaunty vault]

good night, and good luck

[wind hazel]

who's the main tank

[jaunty vault]

Eldridge

?

[wind hazel]

eld kaza sirius>eld kaza brest?

[sharp socket]

yes

[fluid brook]

Its a bit more damage vs more tank

[sharp socket]

because backline is shinano haku avp

[wind hazel]

what gear lv are they

because a bit sus they not living to 2nd strike

[storm heron]

I survived till 3 strike with sirius-pearl, kaza, eld-manjuu kit

[sweet delta]

Why do you want to launch more than 2 strikes each?

[storm heron]

agir VH survived

[sweet delta]

The third strike will just do no damage

Buff the first two strikes instead of trying to tank better for a zero damage third strike

[wind hazel]

o i realize i EN too. i saw his message as not getting 2nd strike, instead of more than 2 strike

[sharp socket]

cause more damage if more strikes

[storm heron]

I guess third strike for me passed the shield and deals 2% hp

[sharp socket]

also i dont break the shield on the first strike

[storm heron]

I just set cv rld to 0

[sharp socket]

so it stays there until it disappears before 2nd strike gets to do stuff

i dont know what happens on the third strike so ill have to live there to find out

[sweet delta]

Read the boss skills

[whole crypt]

you'll basically never damage strength through barrier + 20s20% shield

[vale spindle]

Violet Tempest, Blooming Lycoris Rerun

Links

• Wiki Page: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Violet_Tempest,_Blooming_Lycoris
• Ship Evaluations: https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/samvaluation#Violet_Tempest_Blooming_Lycoris

Ships

UR BB Musashi(1.2% - 200 Build Pity)
SR CL Sakawa (2%)
SR DD Wakatsuki (0.5% - also available as map drop B3/D3 & shop exchange)
Elite CA Haguro (2.5%)
Elite DD Miyuki (Event Point Accumulation Reward)

Shop Priority

1. Wakatsuki (1 copy if you didn't get her from build/drop)
2. Triple 460mm Main Gun
3. Build Tickets
3. Cognitive Arrays / Chips
4. DR5 prints
5. Oil/Coins/SR Cat boxes/purple plates/etc. (depends on your need)
7. Rest of the shop.
Note: If you're a new player, consider buying T4 tech boxes before everything else, it helps speed up your game progress by acquiring new equipment early.

FAQ

Stream Information

Check the stream channel pins. #tlr-collab-livestream-discussion

Oil Cap?

Oil Cap is on All D Stages , and is 35 mob, 47 boss, 16 sub. Do /oilcap in #bot-spam for more information.

Farming Strategy?

Run D3 with full fleets repeatedly. If unable to do D3, do D1. If unable to do D1, use a 1:1 fleet on C2 > B3 > highest stage possible. Doing the daily x5 or x3 clears is also viable. The gear drops are found in gear lab, not worth it, or both; don't farm specifically for them.

Where to find Build Tickets?

Daily Login, Daily Missions, Event Shop, Point Milestone. There are 44 acquirable build tickets.

Should I pull for these ships?

Potential pull reasons (unordered):

• Waifu
• Collection
• Better than majority of permanent options at their hull type (only for gold/rainbow ships, check ⁠event-faq for ship information).

Note: There is a LIMITED TIME (might not rerun) collaboration event right after this event, 1 more UR event scheduled for 2024, and potential UR reruns upcoming, so plan accordingly.

more information coming soon tm

<@&472236072743600148> pin plz thanks

[tulip dawn]

[vale spindle]

holy hell wild yuni appearance

[atomic abyss]

Yuni slacking hard

Smh

[whole crypt]

a wild yuni appears indeed

[tulip dawn]

im still around just lurking irl is hitting me hard past couple months

[vale spindle]

[tulip dawn]

anyways carry on with on topic discussions!!!

[whole crypt]

lolwot jp notes just says wait for livestream for upcoming

[storm heron]

was strength 8 released along with all the harbys? since it is so strong compared to temperance

or was it just strength 8, and strength 7 was easier?

[viscid swift]

all harbiters were released at the same time

well added I should say

[rapid grail]

smh 3 year maintenance numbers... how long do our small indie devs need to do maint on game...

[atomic abyss]

Complain elsewhere

[wary timber]

Is shitty CVs and CVLs like Hermes Ranger, Langley worth retrofitting for tech or something

[wind hazel]

99% for collection

the ship tech is the same retro or not

[sweet delta]

Is temperance 14 too easy and we need temperance 18?

[sweet delta]

They were added at the same time but obviously because fightable month after month

[atomic abyss]

Langley can be a very good budget option for w15
The rest will likely not be used

[olive fiber]

Anything specific I should grab from the tempest event shop?

[atomic abyss]

Check pins

[wary timber]

What about Hermes? She seems to get an interesting torp focused loadout

[atomic abyss]

Nothing

Langley has 6 fighters

Good for support fleet in w15

[viscid swift]

Interesting if you can even describe it as that is as far as it goes

[sweet delta]

If a loadout is shit, then it is shit

[wary timber]

Hmm Charles Ausburne and Kasumi worth retrofitting ? I have them sitting around

[wind hazel]

collection

[sweet delta]

99% for collection

[wary timber]

I see

[stark quiver]

when will medal shop bps be pr7

[gloomy portal]

Whe do you reckon Unzen rerun will happen?

[tame jungle]

Roughly 2 years and some months after original run

[barren tapir]

next year around this time or so

[gloomy portal]

Oh ok 1 more year to go

[eternal moth]

Nothing new in the maint, just reruns right?

[tame jungle]

Unless you count black friday stuff yeah

[storm heron]

when did medal shop start selling pr6 bps?

[viscid swift]

I have no idea

[tame jungle]

A bit after pr7 dropped iirc

[jaunty vault]

sometime in the past year

[storm heron]

we will have to wait until pr8

[shell willow]

cheeky sheet says jan 30

[left cedar]

should be 1, or feb or jan ... cuz if its core, its when shop gets refreshed

[storm heron]

Idk why I thought it's June

[eternal basalt]

"and potential UR reruns upcoming" We really expect another?

[storm heron]

eh? There are 44 build tickets? I thought it was confirmed to be 45

[jaunty vault]

44 for EN

45 for others

[storm heron]

[jaunty vault]

[storm heron]

sort end of the stick

[jaunty vault]

middle child treatment

[eternal basalt]

Been that way since Shinano rerun

Also 32/33 normal

[sharp socket]

can the december UR overflow into january aswell or likely within december only

[jaunty vault]

former

[cobalt rapids]

can

[eternal basalt]

It always runs into jan, start around 29 (this year prob 26)

[blissful hamlet]

Is black Friday this maintenance?

[jaunty vault]

perhaps

[blissful hamlet]

Time to get all the Janus skin

What's the best way to get janus dupes other than wishing well?

[cobalt rapids]

become lucky

[blissful hamlet]

Skill based game mode

What's the rate for gold ship in light construction

And does all gold ship have equal rate or some have higher rate than others?

[cobalt rapids]

7% and the other thing idk but i would assume equal

[blissful hamlet]

7% gold ship drop or per gold ship?

[barren tapir]

7% for a gold. divide that by however many golds are in light pool and you get the chance for a janus

[deft wraith]

I receive few Birdie Ships.

[blissful hamlet]

That's absurdly low, how am I supposed to get janus

[wind hazel]

be lucky

[deft wraith]

Just Don't Waste Your cubes.

Or Immediately Launch the construction Build

[barren tapir]

cope with wishing well there is no other way

i'm in the same boat haha

[blissful hamlet]

With all the gold ship I only have 0.26% chance to get janus

With 100 pulls I get 0 janus

[deft wraith]

Oh-

[barren tapir]

yeah uhhhh wait for wishing well

[barren tapir]

1 in 385 pulls

[deft wraith]

That's a lot

[barren tapir]

i mean, at least it's only 1 cube each amirite

i mean technically it's just the same as going to pity for an UR the difference being the rate is so low that the average means next to nothing as you could spend so much less or so so so much more, and no pity so. but on average it's no worse than pitying an UR...

[blissful hamlet]

That's like 1/5 of my cubes right now, time to get my janus

[barren tapir]

your funeral

[blissful hamlet]

I need to get 3 more janus for each skin and future oath skin

[barren tapir]

i see you're dedicated...best of luck definitely wait for wishing well if you need that many

[sweet delta]

no he's serenity

[blissful hamlet]

Janus is worth it

[deft wraith]

Is there any worth ships I could get?.

[jaunty vault]

musashi is worth

read pins

[cobalt rapids]

you should pull a minimum of 44 times

[deft wraith]

Wait is she available right now?.

[tame jungle]

We went into maintenance like 53 minutes ago but yeah after that she is available

[deft wraith]

Ooo alright and thanks. And I'll go check.

The server is down for me.

[rancid mural]

I didn't get muh gold farming done in time

[rancid mural]

Yea it's gonna be down for like 7 hours

[deft wraith]

Okay I guess I have to wait again

[rancid mural]

Yea

[deft wraith]

I'ma play Something else first then

[rancid mural]

Wuthering waves just had it's update if you play that

[deft wraith]

What's that?

[barren tapir]

#al-general lol

[deft wraith]

Oh sorry

[tame jungle]

#off-topic

[barren tapir]

oh right

[sweet delta]

#other-games

[deft wraith]

A

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[blissful hamlet]

Anything new this maint other than black friday?

[tame jungle]

#game-news

[blissful hamlet]

[queen jackal]

are we getting an event stage?

[tame jungle]

yes

you can take a look at the most recent pin for the wiki page (since this is a rerun, it'll have the same event maps as the original run)

[fickle parcel]

Musashi event had the Japanese UR BB gun that isn't used?

[south sequoia]

yes

[fickle parcel]

tyty

[south bear]

Will this event shop have Tier 6 BPs?

[storm heron]

It's PR5 BPs

[keen mural]

Any other ship other than Musashi worth in the banner?

[tame jungle]

Check pins 2nd link

[noble osprey]

Guys is Agir considered more of a boss or mobbing ship?

[south sequoia]

Flexible but she'd be a bit of a waste if you have her slotted in mobs

[tame jungle]

She can do both but you’ll probably value the tankiness a bit more in boss

[noble osprey]

Thanks guys

[sharp socket]

why is agir prone to exploding in w15 but not brest

[zinc hornet]

can anyone help me out with putting together fleets for main campaign?

[frank pulsar]

agir is heavy armour, bombs and torps tend to be skewed towards heavy

[tame jungle]

Probably heavy armor

[south bear]

No BPs, bad UR gun. Whats the point

[frank pulsar]

i dont think ive had her explode before though