gameplay-help

[keen sable]

Ships use different gear. No laffey with Gundam cannons

[little geyser]

which one is the mk6?

[keen sable]

Double Gems is better than everything for gems

[atomic abyss]

The gun on the right in the pic you sent
It's the triple 406mm mk6

[tribal belfry]

is this right like that?

[little geyser]

ahhh i see sry im bad with names

[ivory pawn]

More curious if any of the other stuff might be slightly worth considering for a small spender. But sounds like just stick to buying some of the cheaper 2x Gems.

[keen sable]

F2P, gems for skins is the way. There is 0 need to ever pay for resources

[keen sable]

All the double gem are basically the same

[keen sable]

I usually put autoloader on laffey as she wins mvp

[stark quiver]

Since Black Friday coming soon, is it just skins, or are there also discount packs , like gems etc

I honestly forgot

[tribal belfry]

how much cubes shud i have ready for the UR banner best case ?

[stark quiver]

400 at least

[tropic tusk]

should be 400 for pity?

[tribal belfry]

can i get that much in2 days as a starter

[tropic tusk]

no

well if u whale yes

[stark quiver]

Technically yes with 💳
But don’t do that

[stark quiver]

You get a total of 44 free building tickets

[tribal belfry]

from wehere

[stark quiver]

During musashi event since it’s a rerun, daily logins, daily mission, shop, maybe milestone

[desert tapir]

Do we have any dive Bombers that intercept?

[tribal belfry]

is musashi an flagship in the back or main atacker

[desert tapir]

Dang joke team. No go

[viscid swift]

She's a main fleet

[little geyser]

What's a good way to lvl up because I would love to get to lvl 80 to continue campaign

[eager mulch]

playing the game

[little geyser]

I see

[ivory pawn]

Idk either, but there does seem to be a skin discount voucher of 300 gems if you buy 3 skins.

[tropic tusk]

there should be a set amount of skins u can use that voucher on

[stark quiver]

I js vaguely remember there are the 99 cent packs for gems

[ivory pawn]

That's a shame. Probably just the rerun skins if so.

[boreal wagon]

iirc the voucher could be used on any skin and simply reduced the cost

[keen sable]

Might also be rerun only but if you're that far might as well go to free oath

[tropic tusk]

oh its on any skin?

[ivory pawn]

At least the announcement in #game-news doesn't imply otherwise.

[vale spindle]

The "cashback" itself can be used on any skin

[boreal wagon]

in 2023 it simply gave u a 300 discount on whatever skin u bought next, it isnt even a real item u trade in

[tropic tusk]

cashback is the ticket right?

this

[stark quiver]

yea

[boreal wagon]

refer to what i said because its likely to be identical this year

[tame pivot]

how does one unlock the locked perks on unique cats?..

[boreal wagon]

they unlock and upgrade every 5 levels
and the order in which they unlock/upgrade is fixed

[rare wyvern]

Is cleaning up the Hidden OP Siren zones worth the time to get ship XP ?

[stark quiver]

You don’t do them for xp

[forest palm]

ship xp at least, you do get meta skill xp

overall not really "worth"

[keen sable]

As someone who used to farm red ships in manual ops days, no

[desert tapir]

Sorry for a late response work came up. Any way I was asking about an interception dive Bomber because most of the collection left for me is map drop. Some of those maps are so far beneath the Girls I can deploy its a little sad. Was wondering about running joke teams to make it fun

[soft raft]

What

[storm heron]

how does interception dive bomber relates to collection?

[rare wyvern]

There was a bunch of ships so I wondered. Back to 12-1 I go !

Speaking of OP Siren, how often do the Strongholds appear ? I cleaned the three on the first days, recently one more appeared that I cleaned, will I see more before the end of the month ?

[storm heron]

there's a new one every week

[rare wyvern]

Nice

[desert tapir]

If there was A dive bomber that could intercept; One of the things I thought would be amusing while running old maps is if I only used DB for my single CV.

Short of a dump and pointless challenge run type thing. After many of these ships I need to drop are back in single digit maps. Downs Or Cassin barley ever get hit much less injured

[storm heron]

Also cleaning up hidden OP Siren zones is always worth it, regardless if you do it for ship EXP or not

[soft raft]

dive bombers are the only plane category that doesnt have anything that can passive intercept

[desert tapir]

Thanks again but not rly and cheeky got me.
Somone question marked my original statement about a joke team being a no go and wanted to clarify

[eager mulch]

[hidden path]

Finally decided to give Azur Lane a go, tad overwhelmed, are there any good up to date beginner's guides for the game for recent newcomers?

[sharp socket]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[fallen verge]

why is second skill still locked?

[weary gust]

That's her retrofit skill

[fallen verge]

oh ty

[keen sable]

I think they specifically were asking about the extra red ships that give xp but nothing else and auto doesn't kill.

[rare wyvern]

Yeah, I cleared and then auto-search wasn't up to tackle them. So I did a few and figured they actually did not loot.

But for now I'm actually leaving behind the normal Hidden zones Corro 4 and below because I don't have the COURAGE to clean them up

I didn't buy the hidden data logger this month

I will for the next

[keen sable]

i play a lot so it's not a problem to dip in every hour and run a hidden while waiting for morale to regen anyway

[rare wyvern]

I am fine with all the low (relatively) level stuff to auto, like I just leave my game to run the normal map with the logger activated to unlock the shops while I'm doing other things. Also, is there a way to have the game automatically click the "move on to the next area" or does it always need input ?

It's not a great inconvenience, I'm just wondering

[viscid swift]

strategic search is a thing

[eager mulch]

strategic search is a blessing is what it is, just like amagi-chan

[rare wyvern]

Yes, that is what I am talking about. During strategic search, when it finishes the zone, it remains on the "Let's move on" prompt until I click, then moves on to the next area

[eager mulch]

turn of tb guidance in the game settings

[viscid swift]

turn on reduced TB guidance

[rare wyvern]

Thank you very much

[eager mulch]

your welcome

[rare wyvern]

I've recently have a surge to try hard this game, I missed so many UR events

[viscid swift]

*on
*you're

[eager mulch]

so thats where my motivation to play the game went, you took it from me

[stark quiver]

in a antilight fleet with yk2, kear and enty, how i would need 4 hvars right?

[viscid swift]

yes but bump that up to 5 for more modern set ups

you at least get one from the shop from milestone rewards so you "only' have to farm 4

[stark quiver]

only is a funny word
missed yk2 original run, so its 2x reward spamming

[eager mulch]

have fun with 1 week of straight hvar farming

[viscid swift]

could probably make a guide just for that

[rare wyvern]

You'll get it back when I have to stop spending my time on this game maybe

[stark quiver]

~~the main problem is that i have various stuff to do ~~

[viscid swift]

which wouldn't really be difficult truth be told
1:1 fleets only, don't even think about full fleets

[stark quiver]

wont it take too much time?
wait nvm youre onto something

[eager mulch]

time to start raising dupe unicorns

[viscid swift]

or just user the other healers like a sane person....

[stark quiver]

my main problem is time

[viscid swift]

HELPs will be your friend then

and cross fleet barrages

[stark quiver]

i have like 8.5 hours a day to farm

[viscid swift]

you'll be fine

[weary gust]

8.5 hours a day to farm is a ton of time

[bold stream]

Hello, i need to be lv 60 before I can attack world 8. So in the mean time I need to spam 7-4?

Or should i consider the events?

[keen sable]

War Archives cost limit is better

[eager mulch]

mfw any cost limit is better than no cost limit

[bold stream]

Okay so war archives...

[rare wyvern]

Is there a particularly interesting XP to Oil ratio among all the war archives ? Also does is give you nice moneys for clearing ?

[keen sable]

all cost limit xp is better than non. coin is long com equivalent or better.

generally it's going to PP SP5 and ILD D1 for ease of entry or DC D4 for tech but much higher entry requirements.

[rare wyvern]

Like basically I farm safely enough on 11-4/12-1 right now and wonder if it's juicier on the archives

[keen sable]

11-4 is terrible.

[barren tapir]

nop archive is same as event meaning its around 9-4 to 10-1 range ish

[keen sable]

12+ is the way

[barren tapir]

w11 harder than w12 and give no chips

[bold stream]

Okay there is a lot of war archives...any recommendations? I run bismark and roon

[soft raft]

Divergent chessboard for iron blood tech
Skybound for JdA
That's really it

[bold stream]

Whats a jda?

[keen sable]

see here

[barren tapir]

divergent chessboard for kms tech points, skybound oratorio for jda, or whatever one has a ship drop you like i guess.

[soft raft]

Jean D Arc
French CL

[bold stream]

Okay thanks!

[barren tapir]

there are some core data ship that drop in archives which you can farm as well like wasp (rld tech) and west virginia (a decent bb when retrofitted, also useful for uss points if you need those)

[rare wyvern]

I run this to level up the main fleet and research Halford, and 11-4 did shell the hell out of my BBs

[bold stream]

Btw, any war archives that I can get formidable planes?

[viscid swift]

move to 12-1

[soft raft]

idk
not like it's really worth running that specific plane on her

[viscid swift]

and drop the maxed ships

[barren tapir]

nice anchorage hp

[bold stream]

Copy. Thanks

[rare wyvern]

What do I replace it with that is ?

I fear they get destroyed like my poor Takao when she was at their spot

[viscid swift]

Helena for certain

and Laffey I guess

Trust me it can work

[keen sable]

unicorn exists

[left cedar]

imagine say that to a veteran like Cheeky

[keen sable]

cheeky isn't vet enough. i can't be bothered to NOT use unicorn anymore

[viscid swift]

One I finish these sure

[rare wyvern]

You guys have healers ?

[barren tapir]

tbh with that backline theyd prolly want a vg carry so i'd use sandy helena laffey

[viscid swift]

yes....
Unicorn is the best and can be obtained day 1

[left cedar]

i have Klaudia, cuz she is a very nice lady with healing powahs, but for lvling fleet ? naaah, i dont use her

[rare wyvern]

Perseus my beloved

[viscid swift]

not particularly, if it's set up right, i.e. staggered main fleet and what not no need

especially if it's 12-1 and not 12-4

[left cedar]

12-5 ?
secret stage ?

Cheeky dev, confirmed

[viscid swift]

fuck

[barren tapir]

ye depends on gear that 0lb daisen giving me the jitters that's all lmao

[viscid swift]

for pushing I agree, for farming in W12 just about anything goes

[rare wyvern]

I just unlocked her, I'm leveling up

[left cedar]

i already did some runs in 12-1 with some ..... idk how to name it, but, dammit, even i that made doubt that it will work, but if works, work

[barren tapir]

[left cedar]

but at end, i discovered with u try with full tempest fleet in VG, and no CV/CVL and 1 IXM, u can get melted down in 12-1

[viscid swift]

tempesta ships truly confirmed shit

[rancid mural]

If i keep leveling this team could it eventually auto 12-4 boss?

[viscid swift]

yes

[rare wyvern]

The only thing saving my backlane in 12-1 is the fact that my CV hides

[viscid swift]

though you would want Unicorn in your mob fleet by that point

[rancid mural]

I'm more concerned with being able to auto 12-4 boss lol

[viscid swift]

which is why Unicorn goes to the mob fleet

[keen sable]

it can mob or it can boss. not sure why you would insist on both

[viscid swift]

you're not outhealing the boss's damage

[barren tapir]

yes if you pick up ammo before boss, idk if it can autosearch

[rancid mural]

I see, so changes will have to be made rip

[barren tapir]

the question is why one fleet 12-4 also retro sara

[keen sable]

one fleeting the game is not a thing

[viscid swift]

well yeah, you should at least be looking into a 2nd fleet by the time you get to W9

[barren tapir]

you CAN one fleet up to 12-4 (technically up to 15-4 but i mean "as a relative new player") but it would be more effort than just making a 2nd fleet after w9 or so

[rancid mural]

This is my second fleet it clears the mobs just fine

[viscid swift]

still not sure how you afforded Sandy's retro but details

[rancid mural]

I cleared hards by full clearing once

Then just killing all the mobs retreating

[viscid swift]

I meant all the other stuff, mainly coins

[barren tapir]

but yeah if you mean autobattle then this can definitely do the boss. do all mobs + boss...maybe with manual ammo pickup but otherwise no

[rancid mural]

Nah even with 20% safe and full ammo it fails

Boss is a beast

[barren tapir]

the bulins and blueprint would be harder, coin isnt really an issue once you're in w12, a day or two of focusing on sandy retro and it's done

[viscid swift]

It's more than 50k coins alone

[rancid mural]

I only have 2 retrofitted ships sandy and unicorn

[keen sable]

have you tried using gear?

[viscid swift]

and there are a lot of other things newer players should be doing than Sandy because she eats so many resources

[rancid mural]

And portland*

[barren tapir]

so about 10k oil and you make 5-6k a day averaged out, as an active player

[rancid mural]

I don't have her skill yet

[viscid swift]

and this is on the assumption someone isn't in W12

[barren tapir]

im not saying its wise to go for sandy so soon but i dont think it takes that much time coinwise if you prioritized it

[barren tapir]

but they ARE in w12 thought we're talking about them ?

[eager mulch]

this, some people get stuck like in 11-3

[viscid swift]

honestley should have skipped Sandy, just given her augment module and focused on other stuff

[soft dagger]

Your boss fleet lacking levels. And check their gear

[viscid swift]

not necessarily when they did that retro is what I'm saying

[barren tapir]

ahh fair enough yeah

[viscid swift]

well give Saratoga another Helldiver for one

[barren tapir]

considering their current coins tho honestly unless theyre severely neglecting research or something i dont see much harm in doing what they did

[rancid mural]

I only have 1 hell diver

[barren tapir]

also iirc they've dropped a bunch of money which definitely helps out

[rancid mural]

Like 40 dollars lol

[viscid swift]

have you opened all of your T3 and T4 tech boxes

[rancid mural]

Yea

[viscid swift]

hunker down in 12-1 for the time being

you've gotten to the important bit, take your time getting to 12-4, no need to rush it

[rancid mural]

I mean I can do it I just can't auto it lol

[barren tapir]

should've farmed roma rerun c3, i got so many helldivers from that

[cursive lark]

Hi, is it okay to ignore FdG entirely if I have soyuz and musashi? I only have gnessiau, zeppy, gz, strasser, and weser

[viscid swift]

which is precisely why I'm saying wait a bit

[barren tapir]

if u cant auto dont bother bc thats too much effort 12-1 is fine kek

[rancid mural]

Fair

[viscid swift]

12-4 is hardly difficult, if you can't auto it even on safe that's not a good sign for the strength of your fleets

[rancid mural]

The boss fills portland so full of holes so fast

[barren tapir]

12-1 is slightly better exp efficiency, anyway, and you have solid coins from your screenshot

[viscid swift]

why are you even forcing the boss fleet to fight out of ammo anyway

[storm heron]

(oops sorry for the ping)

[barren tapir]

na they said even with ammo they die

[rancid mural]

I'm not the boss fleet is at 5 ammo lol

[viscid swift]

that's even worse, a lot worse

[barren tapir]

my guess is an inconsiderate number of torps and portland lacking enough eva aux (i had this issue in w10-11 somewhat)

[viscid swift]

that and just taking too long to kill the boss

[storm heron]

idk how that did not survive

[barren tapir]

yeah give her 2 blue eva aux and hope for the best. or just dont bother with 12-4 until you get a gold rudder

[viscid swift]

once you get past a minute with a questionable vanguard things get dicey

[barren tapir]

you can try a torp buldge but unless its borderline that wont fix things

[rancid mural]

Ah well I can auto 12-1 just fine I'll just do that

[viscid swift]

not like 12-4 is even necessarily better than 12-1

[keen sable]

you're not really trying. mains running around with +8 gear. no aa. and saddled with 2 bad main ships.

[barren tapir]

ye sara no retro and probably no augment means a big lack of dmg for a boss since then they only have uni and hood (and hood isnt exactly the best, augment or no, her barrage has fairly limited range iirc)

[viscid swift]

it's not the range that's the issue, she just doesn't do a lot of damage against single target

[rancid mural]

Really? Huh

[barren tapir]

i didnt wanna outright say hood is mid af bc some ppl here really like her for new players

[viscid swift]

she is good

[rancid mural]

She does obscene damage from my view

Like no one comes close to out damaging her

[barren tapir]

to each their own but yeah shes better mobbing

[eager mulch]

hood good

[viscid swift]

but that doesn't mean she's good against everything

[storm heron]

hood is probably the best damage dealer there, uni deals less damage, sara deals even less

[eager mulch]

super weak against bismarck

[viscid swift]

that's not a suprise given her competetion

[keen sable]

i mean you can 1:1 12-4 lethal. people did it with monarch + sandy way back.

[barren tapir]

definitely not good on boss, mine didnt have augment to be fair but my saratoga was doing at least 5x hoods damage for w10-11 bosses

[viscid swift]

if you hadn't leveled Colorado up already I would told you to get Nelson leveled up and retroed and see the difference

[barren tapir]

nelson is really good ^ (relative to new player ships)

[viscid swift]

at the same time, you can't entirely take end screen damage at face value

[barren tapir]

yes thats true, since sara also basically solo nuked every minion the bosses have i mostly say that hood is not impressive on bosses

[storm heron]

nah what is that

[barren tapir]

i mean retro aug sara is pretty good basically solo carried me thru w9-11 (i havent bothered past 12-1 since no reason to yet)

[rare wyvern]

Also, a question because it's about the campaign now. I get flabbergasted with my good fleets on 14-3. Like I think I could skirt around the level clear but I don't see myself getting 3*

Perseus and Ryuuhou run with 2 ASW bombers, Warspite has 1, and Javelin/Yuudachi have an ASW auxiliary. I'm currently getting XP for Jervis but still hesitate running her as off tank instead of Scylla or simple DD instead of Javelin.

I have an oathed Amagi CV to replace Ryuuhou eventually but I actually don't know if the boss has much subs, or comparable to the damned recon fleets.

Finally, tips to destroy/slow the ships charging my backline better than ramming them ?

[barren tapir]

also that would only be because they havent retro + aug sara otherwise she has really high damage for a base elite imo

[storm heron]

you do not use 3 cv in w14

[eager mulch]

Perseus and warspite are bad, need better intercept on your bbs

[rare wyvern]

(Please define intercept here)

[keen sable]

there aren't that many subs and warspoot mob....

[rare wyvern]

Oh you mean like, secondaries ?

[eager mulch]

Do 👏 not 👏 faction 👏 fleet 👏 it 👏 makes 👏 you 👏 look 👏 stupid

need 155mm kai on your bbs

[barren tapir]

perseus is bad? i thought she was still generally considered a sidegrade to unikai for w14 (but then why not use unicorn yea)

[eager mulch]

significantly worse than uni in W14

[storm heron]

yes, BB has a secondary gun that can kill the ramming ships

[forest palm]

Percy cannot sustain a fleet in 14/15

[eager mulch]

W14 and 15 are the two places where Percy is just so much worse compared to uni

[rare wyvern]

BUT!
I started out like that because I ran Nagato for the longest times and I may have... uh... pretty much leveled up my sixth national fleet.

[barren tapir]

i recall ppl using percy + ryuuhou just fine when w14 came out

[viscid swift]

this is pretty much how not to build a fleet for W14

[eager mulch]

this person isn’t as skilled as they were

[keen sable]

perseus works but with ryuuhou isn't great. aquila exists.

[rare wyvern]

I found myself in difficulty on recon fleet where it spams subs, not a single one on main fleets though

[barren tapir]

boss doesnt have subs iirc?

[keen sable]

hedgehog + unicorn asw is all i ever needed

you're bring in EXCESSIVE asw

[viscid swift]

a bit old but that gives you an idea of what a W14 mob fleet should look like

[keen sable]

3 main slots lost to asw. 2 maybe 3 van slots lost to asw

[barren tapir]

yes all you need is this

[forest palm]

[rare wyvern]

No only 1 van slot actually... I just have an ASW on the DD plus support from a CVL, and Warspite happened to be uniquely able to carry an ASW

[deep solstice]

before chapter 12, i just farm highest stage for gold yes?

[viscid swift]

Warspite is shit, you're losing among other things a lot of damage, she's almost dead weight

[eager mulch]

unupgraded gear

[barren tapir]

warspite is not a good ship and carrying asw makes her dmg worse too there is no point to using warspite for asw

[viscid swift]

do I even want to know what gear you're running

[eager mulch]

quad 356 gaming

[rare wyvern]

I swear it's not that bad

[forest palm]

usually is

[viscid swift]

let us be the judge of that

[rare wyvern]

But what ship ? Cuz there is a lot

[eager mulch]

“it’s not bad”
is bad

[viscid swift]

all mob fleet ships

[barren tapir]

curious if you are autoing or manualing based on the last comment. you'll want good interception guns on your bbs

[barren tapir]

they gave u multiple examples, at this point make a thread and post dock so ppl know what exactly you have to work with

[proper acorn]

what site to use to show loadouts like this?

[forest palm]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[eager mulch]

does ectl fleetbuilder still work

[forest palm]

probably

[eager mulch]

unfortunate

[forest palm]

the old fleet maker still works which is funny

[barren tapir]

general build seems to be

great mobbing bb flag + uni + good cv (dmg or off healer) with mobtank + good dd + anything good that can offtank at a vague glance for roles to look at

[viscid swift]

pretty much

[eager mulch]

gotta love the exodia combo of musashi, aquila, and uni

[keen sable]

does that work on 15 also?

well what do you know

[forest palm]

crazy, almost like Musashi is the best mob BB the game has to offer

[eager mulch]

then the cute combo of amagi-chan, shinano-chan, and another smol that you like

[barren tapir]

anyone who takes child ships into such dangerous territory is a monster

[rare wyvern]

How not to get whopped by 14-3

[forest palm]

[primal silo]

[rancid mural]

Alright swapped unicorn to the mob fleet and I pretty much figured out what everyone was saying, muh boss burst is garbage

Ooof muramasa save me

[storm heron]

[proper acorn]

would these fleets work for w13?

[wide obsidian]

Anyone have tips on 13-4? Feel like my mob fleet was close to dying first full clear and my boss fleet kept losing 1 ship

[storm heron]

mob would probably need a better AA

otherwise looks good

[glacial harness]

I also want to not die on 13-1

[forest palm]

drop ulrich for another CV

[storm heron]

ulrich is fine imo, you still need an AA carry either way

[forest palm]

it's just easier to use a triple CV mob

[storm heron]

what did you use

[storm heron]

what did you use

[viscid swift]

lacking AA and levels

[wide obsidian]

This is what got me through 13-3 but some ships feel like they could be replaced

[proper acorn]

cool, i'll swap ulrich for indekai?

[viscid swift]

minimum you'd want for W13 is 115

[forest palm]

that's perfect

[wide obsidian]

I think either Portland or Helena were dying on the boss not terrible but would like to change if possible

[wind hazel]

yes, akashi warspite can be replaced

[viscid swift]

at which point move UvH to the boss fleet replacing Essex

[storm heron]

warspite is probably not doing enough damage, there, also what gears did you use for portland and helena, they are not supposed to die

[storm heron]

how did they die tm

[frozen inlet]

who should i prio with regards to ships i need to research?

[forest palm]

Helena is kind of iffy in campaign

[wide obsidian]

Auto battle is a wild time

[viscid swift]

could be better, but you're main issue is damage then, not killing the boss fast enough

[storm heron]

what about warspite's gear?

[sudden sparrow]

Y'all, what do damage modifiers do again?

[storm heron]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[midnight finch]

My current campaign fleets.. Any suggestions for replacements I can go for in the future?

[frozen inlet]

thx

[storm heron]

they show how much damage is relative to each armor

[wind hazel]

remove NJ

[wide obsidian]

I can change her for like fdg or nj they have better gear for me

[storm heron]

NO wonder

[wide obsidian]

I just vibe man

[storm heron]

try changing warspite's gun to something with AP ammo

[sudden sparrow]

Could use someone other than Phoenix.

[wind hazel]

havent seen that gun in a while

[viscid swift]

damage multiplier

[viscid swift]

you can make a lot of replacements right now

[crude fable]

Any of those good to use?._.

[sudden sparrow]

Level 1 damage multiplier is just 1x, right?

[viscid swift]

no,
it's 4%, 10%, and 18% for level 1, 2 and 3 resepctively

[sudden sparrow]

Roon good is kinda good if you don't have any other surplus AP guns, Hazemeyer can be replaced with STAAG, and the other gun is good enough.

[storm heron]

what other BB gun do you have, tap on warspite to see the options

[viscid swift]

okay, okay, okay,
though you shouldn't be doing PR1 research focus at all, change it asap to PR4

[wind hazel]

more like tap on BB to see what to replace warspite with

[viscid swift]

that it pretty much the worst BB gun in the game, like she had bad damage even with a good gun but you just nerfed her to basically 0 damage

[crude fable]

What's asap?._.

[viscid swift]

as soon as possible

[crude fable]

Roon good?._.

[viscid swift]

2nd gun on the bottom from the right

[wind hazel]

great gun. but again, tap on BB to see who can replace warspite to begin with

[sudden sparrow]

The Prototype Triple 203 SKC gun is the Roon gun.

[wide obsidian]

I think I just chose the next available gun was grinding exp for pr ships for a bit

[crude fable]

Oh tysm

[viscid swift]

literally any other gun would have been better

especially when you're trying to push content

[soft raft]

Holy fuck not the beehive gun

[sudden sparrow]

Ye, that's a good one.

[wide obsidian]

I just started pushing campaign again

[viscid swift]

NJ and FDG right there, use them

[storm heron]

is that a new jersey and fdg

[wide obsidian]

[crude fable]

And btw the pr u mean the tier of research?

Like blue purple yellow rainbow?

[viscid swift]

I mean the series

[storm heron]

look somewhere that says research focus, switch it to pr4

[viscid swift]

you might wanna give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[crude fable]

Oh tysm ._.

[wind hazel]

use NJ instead of Warspite

+10 that gun we talked about earlier, put it on her

[glacial harness]

These were the fleets minus Amagi, Indiana is flagship and Saratoga is to the side
NJ has a second dupe in 30 days (30 pulls, maybe end of year)
I think I'll be told to change Javelin for something else.

[wide obsidian]

Alright I’ll be back with results after attempt

[frozen inlet]

Should i retire any extras of sr ships if i have them maxed?

[sudden sparrow]

Nah.

[wind hazel]

also the sextuple on portland can probably be used on someone better

[storm heron]

I think you will need to make a thread since fleet kinda needs some replacement

[spice phoenix]

does mood even matter in project identity?

[proper acorn]

for 1 bb/2cv fleet, do i want 2 bb cats or 2 cv cats? or doesn't matter much

[stark quiver]

id lean more towards cv cats

[sweet delta]

If it's Alsace hermes hwahjah then I think I'd lean towards BB cats

[storm heron]

yeah what's the best campaign cat, just pick anyone with flame/destiny/mountain?

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[soft dagger]

For campaign, as long as they have flame/mountain it doesn't matter that much. If you're talking about kear/yorkii/impla fleet, you can do antenna/bisha (if their talents is good ofc). If you're going on soyuz/nakhi/amagicv pick your best cv cat

[sweet delta]

What's Ting An eHP with 4 defensive auxes

[zenith heron]

Is Azuma better than Drake in an OpSi Mob Fleet or nay?

Because I moved my Unzen to one of my boss fleets while shelving Shimakaze...

Gonna use either Azuma or Drake until I get my Hindenburg at dev30

[sweet delta]

They're the same but azuma uses a more limited gun so drake is probably better for most people

[sweet delta]

It seems that 71% is already with 3 defensive auxes plus the 300 HP seaplane cargo, so 4 pure defensive auxes would be like 75%

[low lintel]

Just a question but is there anyway to farm these currency quickly aside from buying from the shop? I've bought all from the store and just wondering if you can farm it

[wide obsidian]

We got a full clear on 13-4 thanks for the help @storm heron @wind hazel @viscid swift

[barren tapir]

strongholds

[low lintel]

Yikers

[rare wyvern]

Also dailies

I decided to do them on a daily basis and a 40ish a day in the span of a month is not bad

[storm heron]

40ish per day is surely quick...

but I guess every small thing matters

[signal pollen]

What’s this?

[storm heron]

try closing and reopening

[rare wyvern]

Well I dunno, but it's enough for me to buy my gear lab items aside the map I finished already

I guess generally doing the hidden and explorable nodes brings a good amount already

[storm heron]

1247 AP

[rare wyvern]

But the dailies are solid imo

[signal pollen]

i forgor

[signal pollen]

yeah okay, thank you

[soft raft]

sounds like a desync
force close and relaunch the game

[fathom relic]

Is Fairey spearfish a converging or parallel torp bomber?

[forest palm]

Parallel

[soft raft]

Parallel TB with rockets

If it's a Allied power plane that isnt the PR7 VIT-2, it's parallel

[fathom relic]

So only for light/med in bossing right?

[forest palm]

I wouldn't bother

[fathom relic]

Or just go a proper converging like axis tb instead?

[forest palm]

it'd specifically be more for light armor

[soft raft]

Spearfish isnt really considered for much content due to the relatively high price tag compared to other options

[soft raft]

depends on the content

[fathom relic]

I see, tysm for info

[frozen inlet]

Are these good formations for mob and boss?

[tame jungle]

You just slapped a bunch of non-mlb ships in there so that’s already quite worrying

Also what content, campaign?

[frozen inlet]

Yeah campaign gonna head to 9 before i focus on any other content

[soft raft]

you are definetly in no condition to work on a second fleet right now

[frozen inlet]

what should i focus on now then?

[wind hazel]

use ships that are max limit broken, make 1 strong fleet, push until around chapter 10 or so

[frozen inlet]

cool if i send pictures of my ships for advice on formation and what to mlb?

[wind hazel]

sure, open a thread

[analog bluff]

guys where i can Report a Lost Account?

i can't find the way to loggin in my old account

[frozen inlet]

Help

[wind hazel]

#tech-support

[analog bluff]

tysm

[dry compass]

Do the meowficer bonuses of the sub fleet apply to the whole fleet?

[sweet delta]

They apply to the whole submarine fleet

[dry compass]

I see thanks

[thin reef]

Hi guys
decided to come back to the game, but honestly don't remember pretty much anything
Is this looking good, or should I change something?

[sweet delta]

Change the AA gun to STAAG or worse Hazemeyer, and use sword instead of bowgun generally

And spend the

[storm heron]

mind the +13 upgrades, gold plate are scarce

[dreamy blade]

is it worth upgrading the lecture hall, 21k is a lot of coins...

[thin reef]

What's the Staag?

[storm heron]

/wiki staag

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_40mm_Bofors_STAAG
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Visitors_From_Another_Dimension:_Stage_Cutscenes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Fantastical_Encounter_-_Stage_Cutscenes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Furniture_Sets/Unison_Stage!
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Equipment_Skins/Stage_Dance

Nov 13, 2024, 4:34 AM

[storm heron]

the 0th result

[sweet delta]

/wiki staagx

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_40mm_Bofors_STAAG

[humble perch]

When a ship hits 120 and retrofit if applicable, thats all the bonuses they can unlock for you, right?

[thin reef]

K, thanks

Still don't have it, but guess I'll farm like crazy

[storm heron]

I personally do not since we are near an event rn

maybe later will be worth

[wind hazel]

ship tech yes

[sweet delta]

It's not "farmable" unless you mean gear lab, but you should not gear lab it

[humble perch]

So I'd be good to retire some ships if they're sitting at 120 and I have no plans for them

[wind hazel]

technically yes, but who knows in the future

[thin reef]

How can I get it, then?

[storm heron]

by research

[wind hazel]

at least, i'd only retire easily reobtainable ships

[forest palm]

the annoying part is if you care about collection %, and one of those ships get a retrofit...

[humble perch]

yeah, I'm thinking about retiring souryuu and hiryuu for sure

docks are too full

[wind hazel]

W16 only paired ships work

[forest palm]

get more dock space

[thin reef]

That'll take long ig
Thanks a bunch

[humble perch]

💳 ❌

[forest palm]

that's what free gems are for

[humble perch]

what about rings doe???

[forest palm]

that's for paying customers

[storm heron]

you do not buy rings because you need dock so much

[humble perch]

yeah maybe priorities are messed up

i'll get some dock, but im still retiring some ship

[stark quiver]

were there 2 different campaign stages with same level enemies

[sweet delta]

144 152

[barren tapir]

you get 1 per year

[dreamy blade]

was there a free ring in the amagi event idk what i got an extra one from

[barren tapir]

i pray i will never have to

[barren tapir]

the opening on the private dorm thingy gave one yee

[stark quiver]

waht abt boss level?

[dreamy blade]

ohhh private dorm

[humble perch]

I never knew such strong attachments existed for each shipgirl, I think I'm the weird one here

[dreamy blade]

well at its core AL is a collector gacha

[barren tapir]

a waifu is a waifu i love all of them

[sweet delta]

/wiki chapter 14h

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_14

[storm heron]

14h?

[stark quiver]

so no?

[storm heron]

they are both level 128

are they not?

[stark quiver]

trying to see if release of ch 16 will bring lvl130

[storm heron]

is this around the time new chapters are released?

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[storm heron]

[stark quiver]

lvl 130 for my ships

[soft raft]

W15 was like Last Oct
W14 was like sometime when PR4 came out, probably before

[forest palm]

get read for 130 Lv cap

[storm heron]

seems like W16 is still far away

who knows maybe they will introduced cog awakening* and a new resource called cognitive hashmaps

[bold stream]

Hello, my bismark is approaching max lvl100.. after maxing do I swap her with nelson? I am only at chapter 7 rn since I need to be lv 60 for chapter 8.

[little tree]

any chance W15 H comes out before W16?

[soft raft]

we dont even have W14H yet

[storm heron]

EN'ed

I say save oil for event

[bold stream]

So no playing until event?

[tame jungle]

just dailies

[wind hazel]

just do your daily later today, and save for event would probably better for you

[tame jungle]

it's like 1 more day anyway

[sudden sparrow]

Y'all, best world and stage to farm up tier 3 gear parts?

[storm heron]

according to https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource
oil capped event

[sweet delta]

Oil capped event

[frozen inlet]

I have issues with ship capacity should I sell normal or rare ships or just expand my dock?

[bold cove]

I just read the news, musashi is a must for newacc right?

[soft raft]

Gacha UR always Pog

[storm heron]

it seems like auto-deploy on old dossier meta is broken

[bold cove]

I got 700 cubes, hope to have enough for new UR after musashi banner, im douting my luck

[storm heron]

will the issue be fixed faster if people upvote on bug reports?

[soft raft]

You should as long as you don't have absolute dogshit luck
Esp when reruns come with free build tickets as well

[storm heron]

I tested it with all my non-blustack devices and it all has the same issues too

[primal silo]

Is Volga in perma?

[soft raft]

Nope
But Aquila is

[primal silo]

Yes, happens to me on mobile too

[primal silo]

Does Volga still have a rerun, or just waiting for a time to get into perma?

[soft raft]

Kronstadht event already reran
So pending perma

[primal silo]

Ok
Thanks

[bold cove]

I hope so

[storm heron]

alright just wanna make sure, spreading awareness

[primal silo]

Mhmm
I have to restart al when claiming auto deploy on dossier

[boreal topaz]

does anyone have a lvl125 priority list

[viscid swift]

doesn't really exist

[boreal topaz]

just focus main fleet to 125 and vanguard to 120 rite?

[viscid swift]

prioritize your main fleets you'll use against bosses well into late game

[sweet delta]

Main fleet DPS > vanguard tanks > stuff

[boreal topaz]

ahh ty, also does c5 on opsi drop the military grade electronic components? just now starting to prio opsi

[little geyser]

Should I save for another spot or buy a promise ring?

[barren tapir]

get the 2nd floor and reminder each ring is 30 dock slots you could've had

[little geyser]

Ooooooooh i didn't think about it like that thank you so much

[sinful escarp]

just gonna say this, oathing for stats is not that worth it, especially if you are f2p

[little geyser]

Alright thank you ☺️

[vagrant harness]

what was the event that had new meowfficers? the first one not tempesta

[sinful escarp]

the first one was the first tempesta event iirc

a different tempesta event from the one that just happened

[vagrant harness]

iirc there are other event exclusive meowfficer aside from Every (Tempesta)

this event im thinking of had 2 SR meowfficer iirc

[sweet delta]

you're thinknig of last year's tempesta event

[barren tapir]

drake and kidd came from 2023 tempesta event (fountain of youth)

[vagrant harness]

and they didnt come back this year, so that prolly means i'll never get them :((

[eternal basalt]

And you could get them last Tempesta...

[vagrant harness]

oh my god i just missed them again good lord

[eternal basalt]

Only Bellamy not

[barren tapir]

they did

[vagrant harness]

oh well, im no stranger to waiting. i mean, i waited like 2 yrs to get shinano on perma coz i didnt get her on 1st rerun

i heard drake and kidd are really good tho? i have Every

[barren tapir]

5k point milestone~

drake is gud kidd is ok iirc?

[eternal basalt]

That was Drake? Guess all 3 reran

[barren tapir]

drake t6 clear reward

[vagrant harness]

like, super good?

like " i should feel bad coz i missed it " good?

[tame jungle]

Just ok

A solid cat that you can use if you don’t have any good base cats

[barren tapir]

these cats r great for newbies but less valuable to longer time players (who have time to obtain and roll superior cats)

[stark quiver]

8/10 iirc for cats
so its pretty great

[tame jungle]

Yeah the big advantage of drake and every is that they’re guaranteed solid

[barren tapir]

still definitely good since its a couple less cats to worry about for a while

[stark quiver]

nothing to feel bad abt, they wont make or break something usually

[vagrant harness]

the last time i looked at meowfficer guide was like 2 yrs ago honestly

so i have no idea what makes a cat good now these days

[vagrant harness]

i mean, its because i get lazy at events, but i always get the gacha exclusive ships lol. the only tempesta im missing now is mary celeste (thats how lazy i am)

thats also the reason why i dont have NJ gun. too lazy to get it on rerun. (i wasnt playing when NJ released, only rerun)

but i think overall im doing well, have all UR ships and up to pr5 is done (that means brest and mouthy is dev30)

[frank pulsar]

mk7 is in gearlab

[vagrant harness]

im also lazy at opsi lmaoooo

havent done opsi in maaaanny months istg

[tame jungle]

Ok

[stark quiver]

go to #bot-spam and do /cats
if youre interested

[vagrant harness]

is every good? or not?

[cobalt rapids]

yes about as good as an 8 pointer

[vagrant harness]

also what FP means? last question

[vagrant harness]

better than drake?

[cobalt rapids]

sameish

[wind hazel]

firepower

[storm heron]

best campaign cat

[vagrant harness]

i'll go read up on the cat guide, hopefully i understand it. i havent tinkered with cats for so long. my cat storage is just full of SR cats that i have to sort through lol

[gilded carbon]

I have two Questions.
For one, i started to Take inventory on what Gear i have. So, what do i do with this gun. Im currently unsure when i Got t.

[cobalt rapids]

pr 4 and not worth using

[wind hazel]

leave it there

[gilded carbon]

And, im looking for an reasonably well working off-flag BB/BC. from the community-Tierlist, i have Roma and Indiana. Other then that, i was thinking of getting Odin or Gneisenau Meta

[atomic abyss]

get friederich de grosse before all else

[gilded carbon]

Aye.

[gilded carbon]

For off-flag? I assumed she wants flag-position

[atomic abyss]

at fs5 she works off flag

in the first place, why do you even need an off flag BB?

campaign usually only needs 1 BB per fleet max

[gilded carbon]

In Case i ever need one. At least that was what i thought about. In most games i want to be able to field every Position in Case i need it. So, just prep really

[atomic abyss]

well to put it bluntly

[vagrant harness]

is there a situation where u will ever need to build a CA/Torp focused cat??

thanks, that what i thought so too haha

[atomic abyss]

you wont ever need Odin and co because you'll just end up using UR BBs at that point
which all can be run off flag with no issue

indiana is worth the investment in the meantime

she's just a good non UR BB regardless of the fact she can off-flag

[cobalt rapids]

fdg indiana dork are good till u transition into full UR for opsi bb fleet
consider we get musashi this week as well tho so thats another slot filled

[atomic abyss]

Dork being Duke of York

[vagrant harness]

whats the best opsi bb fleet right now?

[gilded carbon]

Understood. Thank you for the explanation.
Also, thats an if i get Musashi. If Not, stuck with FdG and Nagato Meta (No complaints though)

[atomic abyss]

Bis 2 with any 2 of Alsace/Soyuz/Vanguard

[cobalt rapids]

bismarck zwei and a combination of musashi/alsace/vanny/soyuz

[gilded carbon]

Ok. I dont have Duke. So, who else, just in Case?

[cobalt rapids]

keep nagato meta

altho dork has good lv120 tech aswell so shell serve a double purpose
u can get her from merits

[gilded carbon]

Noted on all Accounts. If i see a red-haired Brit-BB in merits, i will acquire her

[rancid mural]

Are these worth buying

[spark ridge]

just checking, is the maint in approx 9h? afte rthat the event and blackfriday stuff start?

[coarse heron]

23 hours from now

[vale spindle]

Maint is in 23 hours

[spark ridge]

oh thats ages away :(

oh, i did utc+7 instead of -7

that explains the wack time i got

[coarse heron]

Full course is bonus XP in dorm and normally only available for gems
Up to you if it’s worth buying with gold

[rancid mural]

What about the tech boxes
Thanks BTW

[atomic abyss]

not worth unless they're on like 90% discount

[cobalt rapids]

what about 80% discount

[rancid mural]

Oh okay thanks

[coarse heron]

If you see wisdom cubes for gold always buy even if full price
Some will disagree with me
They’re wrong

[rancid mural]

Got it

I really need like dedicated torp stat sticks

[coarse heron]

Shiranui is a easy to obtain torpedo stat stick

[cobalt rapids]

just lvl one of those two u alr got

[rancid mural]

Yea

[cobalt rapids]

or pad ur vanguards with more oxy torps

[rancid mural]

They are very much padded lol

[crimson glacier]

that doesnt seem like account who would have invested in oxys

[coarse heron]

I put Bearn in the stat stick fleet for Hard Mode sometimes
Cause she’s main fleet with torpedo stat

[cobalt rapids]

theres gold oxytorps

[crimson glacier]

and they are shit

[cobalt rapids]

[wind hazel]

it's for torp stats...

on a statpadding ship.... of course they would be shit

[coarse heron]

I agree with Torva on not wasting T3 plates on trash

[wind hazel]

brother your recommended shiranui

[crimson glacier]

aux purple plates arent that common early

[coarse heron]

Doesn’t cost plates

[wind hazel]

yeah instead it took away all the other resources

[spark ridge]

should i be keeping like common and rare ships that cant bne retrofit? i have like 1 copy of some bc of auto locking new ones, or are they basically useless unless i wanted to try collect them. (im not bc im running out of dock room)

[rancid mural]

They are leveled to exactly as much as needed

Lmao

[storm heron]

good enough

[wind hazel]

can retire those easily farmable

common use them to enhance your ships, retire rare and elites

[storm heron]

how is your merchant doing with your max softcap

[spark ridge]

ezpz, if i end up needing a common for whatever reason ill farm em back

[rancid mural]

The what now

[storm heron]

with the low oil and very high coins, I don't recommend you keep turning oil into coins rn, you're wasting the merchant (at least 6k gold / day)

[rancid mural]

It's not even closed to capped

I constantly dip below soft cap retro fitting, augmenting gear, uncapping

[wind hazel]

it's fine, musashi is tomorrow, you might need the coin

[rancid mural]

I couldn't even imagine using the gacha

Need coins to upgrade so much shit

Level caps, retros, upgrading the base

[tame jungle]

try the gacha

you save up for UR events

[rancid mural]

Yea so I've heard

[tame jungle]

at least gameplay wise

[rancid mural]

It dosent look like cubes are the main limiter lol

[atomic abyss]

they will be

once you realise your luck turns to shit

and you're forced to use 320 to hit pity

[wind hazel]

well, he has enough to pity, so coin is the limiter

[rancid mural]

I've spent 150 cubes pulling all the tempesta units which uh sounds like was not good

[storm heron]

either waste 7k coins a day, or spend a significant amount of time to grind during the event if unlucky

[atomic abyss]

thats already very good luck wise

[wind hazel]

150cubes is above average luck

[rancid mural]

Once we get queens revenge DR ship

I'm set

[barren tapir]

why do ppl recommend oxytorp padding to obviously new players like actually what

[cobalt rapids]

what is wrong with it

[barren tapir]

in that vein i kinda wish ppl would view amagi (bc) as a viable medal pick bc she can torp pad and shes not an awful ship

[spark ridge]

are missile destroyers good? the idea seems cool, launching missiles. wiki shows 3, are thye all about the same, or is any standout better? or just choose based on how they look lmao

[storm heron]

Unironically leveling more tech destroyers will be faster than the oxytorps and plates

[wind hazel]

BC with torp stats is actually a common ship to pick for stats requirement, idk what you mean

if it helps with fulfilling the stats requirement, they will be recommended

[spark ridge]

well the only one i have is tai yuan, so i suppose thats an easy choice which to use lmao

[wind hazel]

just not as a first choice from medal shop, of course

[barren tapir]

what i mean is ppl only suggest hood from the medal exchange when personally ive always felt i wish i got amagi instead for the padding but its whatever

[atomic abyss]

they are very good
just not recommended for a new player who is short on spec cores to get

tai yuan retro item is not in the shop

[wind hazel]

because there's alternative to amagi

[crimson glacier]

but hood is good outside of padding

[barren tapir]

those ch12 hm reqs are no joke and even ch11 im having to run mostly dds

[crimson glacier]

if you just want padding then tosa is just better amagi

[cobalt rapids]

you dont have to +10 them
at +6 they already provide 50 trp each which means slapping 6 of em gives u about the same as a mid lvled dd statstick
it doesnt take away xp slot farming time from a usefull ship that wouldve been spent otherwise on a statstick
it is a faster gain to get TRP rather than waiting for lvls
and they are both used together eitherway with statsticks
its not like they are exclusive

[storm heron]

slapping 6 of them

[barren tapir]

which oxytorp are we talking about cos i assumed the core shop ones

[tame jungle]

don't slap your dds

[wind hazel]

[cobalt rapids]

the gold ones....

[spark ridge]

wait so the retro can only be gotten at lunar new year?

[barren tapir]

oh. ive never gotten a gold one yet

[atomic abyss]

for tai yuan, yes

[storm heron]

what is the gold oxytorp?

[barren tapir]

i have a couple purple ones but they barely provide any

[wind hazel]

the one from techbox

[cobalt rapids]

u get em from sakura boxes

[barren tapir]

have yet to get one but good to know it exists i suppose

[storm heron]

if you have them yeah sure I guess your advice rocks

[barren tapir]

high torp dd is prolly the most accessible solution though at any rate + gold torps (torp slot)

[storm heron]

I thought it was the type 93 pure oxytorp

[cobalt rapids]

ig we should stop reccommending 155 aswell coz they are obtained the same way as gold oxytorps

[barren tapir]

no no it's fine i wasnt aware a gold oxytorp existed that's all. tho i'd suggest providing alternatives if possible as it seems to be an uncommon equipment

[storm heron]

I mean they ahve the same name, oxytorps soo

[cobalt rapids]

its almost like i said to lvl the statsticks or pad with more oxy torps

[storm heron]

I am truly mesmerized knowing the gold oxytorp exist and easily obtainable

[barren tapir]

right i know i just mistake because i thought you meant rainbow oxytorp since that was the only one i was aware of @.@

[storm heron]

Like I have never seen one

are they just added or?

[atomic abyss]

they've been added for at least 3-4 years now iirc

[storm heron]

that's wild

[eternal basalt]

They were added, don't ask me when

3-4 years they are not

[barren tapir]

[rancid mural]

Woo

How important is grinding that skill out

[storm heron]

hurry up and ask "is she good"

Nice

[rancid mural]

I've already been told she's the best cv in game

[atomic abyss]

she is no where close to the best CV in the game lol

[storm heron]

almost got banished to 🏆

[atomic abyss]

skill is important to level as always

[rancid mural]

Meant should I get this or start on laffey

[atomic abyss]

finish saratoga first

[eternal basalt]

For training, sure

[remote tangle]

Finish Saratoga.

[rancid mural]

Ight thanks

[barren tapir]

she is good but nowhere near UR

i do think she's among the better gold cvs tho?

[rancid mural]

Well good enough

[barren tapir]

the augment pretty cracked

[rancid mural]

Where do you even farm these

[storm heron]

I mean she's tier0 so yeah?

[eternal basalt]

Weekly "daily"

[rancid mural]

Ah

[barren tapir]

saraT0ga

[sweet delta]

so is amagi?

[barren tapir]

the weekly, normal arbiter, event shops, event milestones iirc?

how much AA do i need for ch12 hm? is it bad like ch13 or more like ch12 normal

[storm heron]

The only amagi there is the bc

[barren tapir]

since i can rn only hit the torp requirement realistically by running 5 dds via napkin math atleast

[storm heron]

it's less than ch13 imo, maybe need second opinion

[coarse heron]

W12 HM is just W12 but higher level, the planes are still a mild tickle

[versed sentinel]

i should be looking to get my second wyvern before the rainbow aa gun rite?

[coarse heron]

UR AA gun is for W15 only pretty much

[barren tapir]

thank youuu then i shall go about unlocking it

[coarse heron]

W13 HM I got my ass kicked last time I tried it

[storm heron]

Musashi event, save oil

[barren tapir]

i have plenty don't worry

[storm heron]

yes you won't even need to think about rainbow aa gun until like 4 wyverns

[sharp socket]

does musashi event have anything notable to farm

[barren tapir]

i have 24k in mail + newbie mission rewards and itll only take about 6k to finish up to 12-4, maybe another 4k to 3 star them with oilcap

[atomic abyss]

izumo gun

[reef flume]

The Izumo gun, but that gun is only for Musashi and you can get it from gear lab or pr1 so not really

[sharp socket]

so i can just get event pts for stuff and then dip

[coarse heron]

use the barrager gun for Musashi mobbing, right?

[eternal basalt]

Just do each map once a day and you end with 60k or so points

[storm heron]

you probably want to save 40k mail oil by january or whenever the yk2 event is

[reef flume]

Imo farm points and buy the tickets, Yamato gun, purple parts and so on

[coarse heron]

that much?

[storm heron]

wait that's too much ?

[eternal basalt]

Watch the rerun have fixed the droprate

[barren tapir]

wait what for

[tame jungle]

HVAR

[barren tapir]

tho i dont think ill need to spend mail oil to hit 55k anyway unless im unlucky on comms probably

[versed sentinel]

oh i need 4 wyverns? i thought 2 was enough

[eternal basalt]

Spefically HVAR with broken droprate...

[coarse heron]

I thought 3 was enough

[barren tapir]

a fighter that has torp bombs? what's it do?

[tame jungle]

Rockets*

[sweet delta]

I thought 0 was enough

[barren tapir]

ahh rockets i see

[sweet delta]

/wiki hvar moun

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Grumman_F6F_Hellcat_(HVAR-Mounted)

[storm heron]

I mean not really need, as I said I would pick a 4th wyvern over the UR AA gun

[barren tapir]

ya i looked i just got confused bc the header on the left said torpedos lol

but yes rocket makes sense ill definitely farm those

[sharp socket]

3 wyvern and then UR AA is my current order

though i also have a baguette

[mystic heron]

is there anything questionable here?

[cobalt rapids]

except hindenburger tank no

[sweet delta]

Swap Guam and hinden and let someone else tank instead of hinden

[storm heron]

what's the found D3 bp equip drop rate again, was it 1%?

[eternal basalt]

Unknown, there are ni known droprates, except Foxes

[sharp socket]

i heard it was 15-20k oil per gear unit, dont quote me on this

[storm heron]

yeah cause 1% just sounds wrong when we spend 267 oil for it per run
Lol nvm I think the 1% is the ship drop not the gear bp drop

[storm heron]

This sounds about right, then 40k might not be enough

[crude fable]

Is this one good?._.

[chilly birch]

Does anyone know what happened to Brunhilde and Bluchers event? Shouldn't it have rerun by now

[spring bolt]

good anti light/med rocket fighter, replaced by la9, good to +10, don't +13

[spring bolt]

delayed for musa rerun, most likely

[crude fable]

Tysm

[coarse heron]

if it's a minor event, those get delayed pretty often for major reruns

[gilded carbon]

oh wow, i literally missed the Rondo-Event-rerun by a Month-ish. I dont suppose the Ships from it will be ingame again anytime soon?

I really want Emden

[atomic abyss]

at least a year after they reran, they will be perma added

[gilded carbon]

understood, thanks

[storm heron]

Pardon my cooking. Is it a good thing for a new player to just start grabbing stuff like vit-2, bfg, champagne at day 30, to accelerate the progress for the next month? how's the tradeoff of a later tenrai for earlier uni or perseus power? 15 x 25 x 3 = 1125 vs 19 tenrai prints

[atomic abyss]

champagne gun is a major jump, higher prio than tenrai

[crimson glacier]

i dont see vit-2 as useful

[atomic abyss]

vit-2 is a fucking joke to use protocore for

BFG is worth after tenrai

[vale spindle]

you can just purple tenzan and its good enough

[coarse heron]

if you don't already have a Tenrai, I'd go for Tenrai prints instead
HOWEVER, Champog Gun is good too and if you're close to one yeah go for it

Champagne Gun is probably only non-UR thing I'd spent protocore on

[storm heron]

Or maybe just bfg and champagne since bfg's rockets deal more damage above other poverty fighter counterparts?

[coarse heron]

bfg isn't good enough to spend protocore on

[atomic abyss]

BFG can be crafted in gear lab

[storm heron]

I can see how the vit-2 over the barracuda is probably not that impactful

[atomic abyss]

it's not impactful period

you dont need BFGs till you do opsi

champagne guns are going to be a big jump for BBs

[tame jungle]

With VIT-2 you’re meaning the non mode change one correct?

[storm heron]

yes

[atomic abyss]

PR7 vit-2 cant be purchased in protocore

[tame jungle]

So you’re talking about right now instead of later when that gear gets added

[atomic abyss]

you are unironically better off getting the breguet if you really hate the barracudas

[gilded carbon]

what is the Problem with Barracudas?

[tame jungle]

Literally nothing

[storm heron]

alright so no vit-2 over barracudas, and champagne gun is a must. So it is the 375 protocore to go to 1 bfg over 6 tenrai prints, is the increase damage against light/med early on to target humanoids (esp on unicorn) really not worth it?

[atomic abyss]

you wouldnt even use the BF109Gs on campaign

[sharp socket]

i dont think i use or have used bf109s in campaign at all

[atomic abyss]

it is only worth using on opsi mobbing if you have an abundance of BF109Gs to begin with

BF109Gs cannot AA - you'd be stupid to use it in campaign

[storm heron]

why though, enemies are sparse at the beginning so isn't it good to be used up to chapters that need AA?

[sharp socket]

CVs are pretty bad to use for bossing early on anyway and a fresh player isnt gonna have an avp fs5 to run it

[crimson glacier]

bombs kill enemies anyway at the beginning

[atomic abyss]

normal fighter bombs are more than enough then

[barren tapir]

up to ch12 anything works so why bother getting a specialized gear just in time for it to be a death trap for ch13-15

[atomic abyss]

champagne gun is big because its a huge boost in dmg for BBs against armoured enemies

[gilded carbon]

the beginner-guide says to use at least Ranger with her dive-bomb-heavy set up

[atomic abyss]

to use ranger INSTEAD of long island

BF109G has and always will be for metas/opsi/CMs only

[coarse heron]

Ranger is a full CV and costs less oil than Long Island
it's a no brainer to use her

[atomic abyss]

and trust me, a LOT of new players have issues with AA even before w12

esp if they're underlevelled

[barren tapir]

...they do?

[atomic abyss]

yes

if they're underlevelled + lack of LBs

[coarse heron]

you'd be surprised what new players come in here asking for help with

[atomic abyss]

chap 3 is a nightmare

foxes are legit a threat

[barren tapir]

oh yeah actually fair enough, by the time i focused on campaign i had a really good uni thanks to the ongoing event

[coarse heron]

since this is a mobile game, you sometimes have to assume for some people this is the first video game they ever played
so the concept of doing power boosts right away might not occur to them

[gilded carbon]

why spite new or returning Players with little knowledge (left). Not their fault. Better they come here to ask for help then get frustrated and leave

[storm heron]

alright then I guess right, bombs kills anyways, and in a larger area. After a bit of thinking rockets only have the advantage when the enemies are tough, which campaign probably do not abundantly have. I will accept that bombs are superior.

I just attempted to cook here because I did that when I made an alt account, to see how strong the bfg on uni and enterprise is, and it basically clears the first wave just as well as bomb fighters, and it demolish the light armored fast bosses that keeps moving away from my bb's shots

[atomic abyss]

fybre

[barren tapir]

but to be fair someone considering buying a bf109g with protocore is unlikely to be stuck at ch3

[crimson glacier]

anything kills early enemies with enty

[atomic abyss]

thst's just how strong uni and enterprise are

good gear makes them even stronger

fullstop

and rockets behave similarly to converging TBs

[storm heron]

you can't deny that bfg helps with the light armored fast bosses, since it deals more damage and has almost 100% hitrate

[atomic abyss]

they may miss without a slow to begin with

and against fast bosses

[storm heron]

but alright I will accept that bomb fighters are better overall

[atomic abyss]

well they'll be even more useless

[barren tapir]

i just splash damaged them to death with

[crimson glacier]

i can deny that

[coarse heron]

man it makes sense that they can miss but idk why I assumed the bfg rockets are guaranteed hit

[tame jungle]

I’m denying it

[crimson glacier]

bfg can still miss just fine on a fast target lol

[atomic abyss]

fybre you're just conceptually mistaken
why are you assuming BFGs have a better chance of hitting?

they're basically anti light converging TBs

[barren tapir]

i dont think anyone was meaning to be insulting about it

[tulip thorn]

Hii can some help me in my thread plss👉 👈

[atomic abyss]

rockets and converging TBs have the same issue without slow

[storm heron]

sorry, what thread?

[atomic abyss]

in campaign, splash damage is king

[storm heron]

[barren tapir]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1306005031517945877

[barren tapir]

seeee

[coarse heron]

yeah I found that out the hard way, I was like "Nagato only moves on the last air strike let's try changing Ark Royal to a different carrier" and lol, lmao even
completely whiffed the 3rd air strike, none of them hit

[atomic abyss]

the only time rockets are worth in campaign is if they're on a spearfish

[barren tapir]

someone help this fella my fleets are just random bullshit go

[storm heron]

is there a video that shows clear indication that bfg rockets miss? I'm kinda curious

[tulip thorn]

LMAO

[barren tapir]

can't everything miss?

[vale spindle]

helena meta when ur timing lines up with her going zoom

[coarse heron]

bro I would get laughed off the server if I showed my OpSi fleets

the CV one is the only serious one

[storm heron]

the fastest boss in campaign is not that fast isn't it

[vale spindle]

probably not

[crimson glacier]

there still isnt any benefit from bfg

[faint jacinth]

hello, what sub torp to craft?

[crimson glacier]

literally just wasting resources early

[vale spindle]

the issue with rockets in campaign is lack of interception

[barren tapir]

that still doesn't mean you should buy a bfg just for some few bosses before w13 lol

[storm heron]

I know that there's a better chance that I am wrong, since there was probably someone testing it

[tame jungle]

Keep in mind that the rockets have a tiny splash radius compared to bomb and will likely only hit 1 target at best

[storm heron]

he is just not here

[vale spindle]

Mark 20 bidder (gold rarity) which you get by crafting up mark viii (purple rarity, you get prints from sub weekly) in gear lab

you can also use g7e gold > purple as well

[faint jacinth]

i see ty

[spring bolt]

rocket hit rate drop off from 0 to 30 (enemy speed) is around 100% to 60%
bombs vary from their splash size, but rough like 10%, for example, 800kg from tenrai drops from 58% to 48%
anyway a few factors stacked up and rockets were unused in main story, not just hit rate, AA and splash range are too

[sharp socket]

it takes a while to get 6 bidders so while waiting to get them you can use g7e

however by the time you get your sub fleet going you might be able to craft a couple bidders so theres no need to make 6 g7e cause itll be a waste

[neon finch]

(i thought g7e drops weekly?)

[storm heron]

so it's probably the matter of the use case coverage, since for single target damage for light/med definitely on a higher end with all the factors, but it's just not high enough to justify using bfg over the bomb fighters in campaign

[solid hedge]

Hi, how to get more tempesta cannon?

[sharp socket]

core shop only

[fresh briar]

Any recommendations fleet I'm currently on 12-1

[barren tapir]

core data for 12 pounder, if you need demi cannon you're fucked

[fresh briar]

Bomboclat

[solid hedge]

Oh? Only 1 per month...

[spring bolt]

yeah, pretty much
oh i am talking ch 15 btw, in ch 14 using rocket fighters is much more common

[barren tapir]

yeah it sucks write some feedback #game-feedback about it

[tulip thorn]

Fuck

[barren tapir]

my fancy gonna wait months to be properly geared

[crimson glacier]

supposed to farm tempesta gears during the event

[storm heron]

oh yea about w14, I see people recommending the rocket fighters and conv torps, is it just the norm since the beginning? since I recall an old video guide saying that parallel and bombs are better because they are random set and not targeted

[neon finch]

12 pounders better than demi for ixss?

[storm heron]

you can't use 12 pounders in place for demi

[neon finch]

i mean for sub maingun

[storm heron]

but yes 12 pounder better than the old cannon

[coarse heron]

demi cannon = Tempesta BB gun

[neon finch]

ohhh i mean olf heavy

[barren tapir]

rockets are funny they will fly in random directions under concealment

[atomic abyss]

and its not like planes are non existent in w14

[spring bolt]

for common use, in other words: you just slap something looks good in theory on a ship and never tweak timing, yes use parallel torps
the converging tb is more about sniping command ships in a specific timed setup for others to copy the fleets. out of specific timing/setup, they aren't as good as parallel

[storm heron]

Woah sniping command ships, so cheeky was indeed using some fancy tech when helping w14

[wet badge]

If i buy the packs with spec cores do they bypass the monthly limit

[storm heron]

ah yea ofc it was Jimmy's videos

[crimson glacier]

doubt

[storm heron]

yeah, rockets flying in random directions, conv torps goes backwards, musashi's barrage also can whiff (hence fdg arguably better they say)

[crimson glacier]

musashi barrage misses really rarely

[frank pulsar]

^^^ sushi barrage only misses if enemy is very fast

and even if it missed a hit or two itll still be way more dmg than fdg's barrage

[storm heron]

yeah, sushi barrage also misses when enemies are under concealment

[frank pulsar]

that applies to like, everything though

[storm heron]

every aimed barrage yes

[barren tapir]

do bombs miss?

[frank pulsar]

what kind of bomb? plane bombs definitely miss

[barren tapir]

ah i was thinking the splash would help them out

[crimson glacier]

i mean what does that question even mean, everything can miss except like AA

[wet badge]

is d30 haku still very good

[tame jungle]

Geometrically miss

[barren tapir]

i mean like does concealment negatively affect bombs by a lot the way rockets etc are

[tame jungle]

Bombs are much more likely to hit a target with splash damage

[wet badge]

i have like 360 ish haku prints do i continue developing her or do i just switch to hindy

[storm heron]

use anova

[atomic abyss]

stick with haku

[tame jungle]

Haku still good

[atomic abyss]

hindy is lower prio amongst the (good) DRs anyways

[hollow gust]

After haku fate you should do Plymouth not Hindy

[wet badge]

should i spend my retro cruiser prints on hindy (im planning on getting the skin for no particular reason)

[tame jungle]

No

[wet badge]

what should i spend them on

[tame jungle]

Ply

[wet badge]

i have like 300 royal tech points

[tame jungle]

Damn

[barren tapir]

time to grind some

[spring bolt]

no even 2000lb bombs has less hit rate than rockets and converging torps in base movement model at 30 speed, it's just bomb's base hit rate is already shit so the speed affected rockets and converging torps dps more

[hollow gust]

Always red names

[tame jungle]

Hey no newbieshaming, do that in general

[inner delta]

grey wtf is that even supposed to mean

[storm heron]

ayo you summoned

za admins

[coarse heron]

so for the Harbiter this month with the every 20 seconds shield: at what time remaining does the shield go up for the first time, based on the timer?

[hollow gust]

It's a joke about ironblood mains

[jaunty vault]

racism be like

[tame jungle]

We all jus some egg fr

[frank pulsar]

factionism

[stiff oracle]

Opinion needed. Currently using pensylvania for main BB. Just got nelson from the newcomer reward. Should i build nelson or wait for hood? Which one better between nelson and hood

[frank pulsar]

nelson is better

[barren tapir]

i vote nelson

[tame jungle]

I also vote nelson

[storm heron]

nelson for 3

[tame jungle]

You can also replace penny with either and run the other one as 2nd fleet flagship eventually

[sharp socket]

i vote hood because her barrage always procs with her aug and nelson even with retro does not always proc her barrage

[spring bolt]

just get musa and one fleet to ch 12