gameplay-help

[forest palm]

eventually

no point in making excess gear because you have the resources imo

[timid solar]

make sense, thanks

[gilded carbon]

Hoard the UR-Bulins or LB NJ?

[forest palm]

what's your current UR situation?

rather what other URs do you have

[gilded carbon]

Amagi CV and Shimakaze are MLB. And i have no other non-prio URs

[cobalt rapids]

Hoard

[gilded carbon]

Could hoard for Shinano or the next Event-one.

[cobalt rapids]

Musashi

[gilded carbon]

Fair

[vast sparrow]

Musashi gun only good for...?

Nvm its slow, very

[cobalt rapids]

Med and heavy with slow timings fav

Aka niche

[forest palm]

there's some specific niches, also Ulrich, and Champaign can use it effectively

[vast sparrow]

[gilded carbon]

Wich one is the Musashi-gun?

[forest palm]

Triple 460

very niche, and not really recommended to use unless you know what you're doing

[gilded carbon]

Is she reliant on it,like King George?

Or the French Pirate?

[forest palm]

Musashi is relient on an IJN main gun, but that's what the Triple 410 is for

Twin 410 Kai for HE

[gilded carbon]

Understood. Thanks. What about the Champagne-gun then? Is it a good or to Trigger her skills?

[hollow gust]

Hmmm this month is really hard to oneshot, how tf did I do it last year

[sharp socket]

does autosearch AI pick up lighthouse or ammo in 1-4

autosearch failed the first run

do i have to manual enemy select all the way to safe, this is such a pain

[hollow gust]

What was the zwei Soyuz Alsace sync again

[forest palm]

Musashi wants a Japanese Main Gun, so the 406/50 wouldn't work

[little geyser]

How many cubes do you normally need for musashi?
I know it's up to chance but I was wondering if there is an estimate?

[atomic abyss]

with the 40+ free tickets
save about 320 cubes to guarantee

[little geyser]

Ah damn I don't have enough then 😭

[forest palm]

eh most cases people don't go to pity unless you're horribly unlucky

[little geyser]

Basically me in every game I play...

[novel solstice]

You should try to get the 320ish cubes for the guaranteed one, but also be aware that odds are that you'll get her before you hit the guarantee.

It's possible to get her on your first draw (1.2% chance...), and the majority of people will get her before going all the way to the pity threhold.

So don't give up just because you can't go all the way to the pity number.

[little geyser]

Is she going to in the event store?

[atomic abyss]

lmao no

[little geyser]

Alright

[atomic abyss]

only 2 URs have appeared in event store

conversely, they dont appear in the gacha

[little geyser]

Sry I haven't played a lot of these events last one I played was the guam + laffy II events

So I wasn't sure

[hollow gust]

Wait am I going insane , the harby shield doesn't go away when I break it with CVs

[plain saffron]

the shield is bugged since day 1

[forest palm]

been like that forever lol

that's Champagn gun

[hollow gust]

I'm usually using BBs for medium , gonna need to adjust my Cv timings , I got it down to 25 bars

[opaque gate]

will ap be generally better for boss fights most of the time?

cuz i finally sim5 azuma, im thinking of using agir gun

[forest palm]

I said the Triple 410

[cobalt rapids]

Twin 410 for light/mobbing
daisen gun for med/heavy bossing

[opaque gate]

is the boss for w13-4 heavy armored?

[cobalt rapids]

Taihou heavy yes

[opaque gate]

ok thanks

should i use sea hornet or BF109?

[cobalt rapids]

Sea hornet

[hollow gust]

You don't use 460

[opaque gate]

ohhh, i just saw bf multiplier lol, it sucks for heavy thx

[cobalt rapids]

Bf 109 has worse surface dmg thab sea hornet against heavy not even mentioning the no aa intercept ontop

[opaque gate]

i should just put san diego on my mob fleet right? than mycboss fleet

[cobalt rapids]

Whichever needs more aa boost

Usually its boss coz mob can just run around with 3 cv

[opaque gate]

3 cv fleet?

[tame jungle]

yur

[opaque gate]

for sim5 azuma, it is finr to use agir gun right? than azuma gun since taihou is heavy

[cobalt rapids]

It works in ch13 coz theres no interception from bb needed

And its plane hell and cv are good at countering that

[hollow gust]

Using 3 CVs , they have passive intercept in addition to the lower aa requirements , allows for you to use 3 CVs and no need for aa carry

[opaque gate]

ok, so on my mob fleet, should i do uni saratoga ryuuhou/enty, or uni saratoga izumo?

[cobalt rapids]

The former

[opaque gate]

okii, enty over ryu right?

[cobalt rapids]

Enty prob to boss aswell

[opaque gate]

my boss fleet is nagato amagi shinano alr

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[opaque gate]

my izumo is maxed out sim5 slvl 125, while ryu enty are just 115 so im contemplating xD

[cobalt rapids]

Eh u can use ryuuhou then

Then izumo

[hollow gust]

15 bars left , can def oneshot with Helena , but that's so boring

[cobalt rapids]

And max lvl ur enty

[opaque gate]

thanks

[hollow gust]

I'm getting cucked by the 20 second shield

[whole crypt]

is that voro?

[cobalt rapids]

Just go faster

[hollow gust]

[whole crypt]

bothered with adapts yet or max penalty?

[hollow gust]

I'm maxed adapts

[cobalt rapids]

Yk2 enty can comfy strike before shield with 80 rld

[hollow gust]

I'm not using enterprise

[jaunty vault]

80 RLD poggies

[cobalt rapids]

Skill issue #1

[hollow gust]

And it still means ditching better planes

[cobalt rapids]

Just on yk2

12a

[hollow gust]

Less damage output , it's a waste of time

[cobalt rapids]

[hollow gust]

Just manual it out , and slower companies easier

[whole crypt]

what's the base adapt on arbs, 188?

[plain saffron]

203 nvm

[hollow gust]

Feel free to run it yourself

[cobalt rapids]

Im not the one here with red screenshots

[plain saffron]

156 something

i think

[whole crypt]

hm so I should be at around 0 pen now

[plain saffron]

damn spot on, i pull it out of my ass

[whole crypt]

that's harb right?

[hollow gust]

It's almost as if I tried faster comps and it does worse

[cobalt rapids]

Remind me in 2 weeks when i finish farming adapts

[whole crypt]

just c1 farm

[hollow gust]

Even last year had to resort to manualing it with Helena to get a oneshot through

[whole crypt]

just use subs

[cobalt rapids]

Ig i can just buy the voucher ones when i get home

[whole crypt]

port shop dry already? voucher's not worth

[hollow gust]

Those exist

[sharp socket]

if u buy alot of tuners you can run harby really fast

[whole crypt]

vouchers cost you more than token's worth

[cobalt rapids]

Didnt touch port shops yet either

[whole crypt]

just buy port shop adapts if you have to, costs less than vouchers post-conversion

[wind hazel]

you say like as if these people need those vouchers

[hollow gust]

I make a net positive voucher every month so doesn't matter

[whole crypt]

I'm a hoarder so

[hollow gust]

13k a month after I get what I need

[wind hazel]

hoard for azur lane 2

[whole crypt]

elixir syndrome

[hollow gust]

So I'm at like 60k in storage

[cobalt rapids]

Theyll release goldplates in voucher shop with unlimited stock trust

[whole crypt]

lmao normby 2-strike with IJN

didn't even swap rockets in

oh it's the 20% HP shield

[elfin hollow]

Do I take it?

[whole crypt]

sure

[spring bolt]

do it

[daring sleet]

hi somone have catalog or smth like thats with all dynamic skins?

[whole crypt]

looks like IJN comp timing is square on the shield

[cobalt rapids]

Be there or be square

[novel solstice]

The standard recommendation is to stay over 400ish cubes so you're good to get to the pity threshold on the next UR. I like having more than that because I'm obsessed with getting every ship on collabs and such. So, how much do you want those rainbow ship prints versus a very small chance that RNG hates you on an upcoming event?

[whole crypt]

at that cube count it's mostly an issue of how the collab turns out

[elfin hollow]

I failed to get minato aqua with 550 cubes

I think i'll pass and go for 1h

[whole crypt]

if you ask me the 5 cubes won't be the difference should RNG chooses to screw with you

[elfin hollow]

How many nyakhimov prints can I get with the rainbow project?

[whole crypt]

usually around 5

[elfin hollow]

I have 100 prints left for dev30, is it worth?

[shell willow]

ive only seen between 4 and 8

[whole crypt]

the most I've gotten from a half-hour is 10 I think but it wasn't DR

[spring bolt]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/换装图鉴
CN wiki

[daring sleet]

❤️

[whole crypt]

personally I'd take it anyway because it's got a good chance for La-9 prints, Nakhimov prints is just maybe speeding you up by a day or half

[elfin hollow]

Alright, i'll take it then

[hollow gust]

I got 8 out of one of mine , you should be able to get 9?

[whole crypt]

you can, probably, but RNGesus tends you give you 4-6

[hollow gust]

4 is some really dogshit luck

[whole crypt]

off the top of my head minroll for UL is 3

yeh 20s 20% shield is a PITA

let me see if I can finish second La-9 and Nakhimov this month to test

[forest palm]

~~ in the 3 years this fight hsa existed you'd think it'd be fixed~~

[whole crypt]

well it's not broken it's just annoying

[forest palm]

[signal fog]

do i need to buy this eight times ?

as in, can i just buy it whole ?

[forest palm]

no, it just means you can only buy 8 per week

[signal fog]

i mean like, i only want to buy once, 8 pcs, lol

[forest palm]

don't believe you can

[novel solstice]

If you really loved her, you'd be willing to press the button eight times 🙂

[signal fog]

lul

[forest palm]

I abandoned the mode

[signal fog]

big finger, time wasting animation 😦

i think i only play project identity for 15-20 mins, then i kinda forget about it, i'm sorry Manjuu

maybe if they give more incentive like rainbow gear....

[whole crypt]

if I remember correctly the cost goes up when you buy more but I have no idea why they don't just make it like buying prints for PR

[signal fog]

aaahh i see

[whole crypt]

I bought 8 once and I think the price did go up, mid-grind now can't check

[signal fog]

all good, yeah i think the price goes up, i'm losing about 20k gold for 8 pcs, never pay attention before

[eager mulch]

[hollow hollow]

Is this a perfect Oscar?

[whole crypt]

no soulful

also KMS staff 🚮

[sharp socket]

great good good bad

[eager mulch]

faction skill 🚮

[whole crypt]

just use until you get something better

[hollow gust]

It's missing so much lmao

[whole crypt]

you don't really want/need loading ace on a BB cat anyway

[daring sleet]

we know when will be aliviable to buy all skins? (maybe black friday?)

[whole crypt]

black friday will be most, not all, won't include more recent releasees

[daring sleet]

good 😄

[whole crypt]

if the skin is an older one that isn't perm yet then yes it's likely going to be there

[cinder hornet]

are META units worht investing on? they seem different from normal ones so I don't know how rare to obtain are their resources

[glass basin]

should I wait until they are completely coined out to pop the catchup

or just do it now

[upbeat wagon]

How to get commander level faster

[soft raft]

Gold ones are basically "Good but better options exist"
Elite ones are almost universally dogshit with zero value outside of the ones that give good fleet tech bonuses, and even then that's purely for the tech, not any form of practicality

[tame jungle]

i'd just coin them up then cash out the protocore

[soft raft]

Grind grind grind campaign with full fleets

[cinder hornet]

ok so basically skip and I should probably stop using her too, thanks 🙇‍♂️

[soft raft]

Yes and yes

[glass basin]

so maybe I just do 10 prints a day and use the cores for champy gun

[whole crypt]

there's just the issue you can't analyze the prints before they're d30 so it doesn't really let you get a champagne gun (significantly) faster

but it could close the gap for picking up rainbow gear

[glass basin]

yeah guess it's basically "buying" rainbow gear with coins

[whole crypt]

rainbow gear prints in shop don't replenish anyway so it's just matter of getting it sooner or later

[glass basin]

I see
another question: is this a decent loadout vs helena meta

Could chuck her down to 60% on a good day but it depends on luck

[viscid swift]

meh, Hood is off flag and you're literally nerfing your damage for your first salvo by using bows on your BBs

[glass basin]

Ok, so I should swap hood to flagship and use sword

[viscid swift]

yes

[icy cave]

does event builds only have light ships?

[viscid swift]

no, it's usually either the heavy or special pool with the event ships added in

[icy cave]

ah i see

[glass basin]

how many generic augments should I craft

[icy cave]

means i gotta pull the light build for the perm ships im missing

[viscid swift]

which you should be doing one a day anyway when there's not an event going on

[icy cave]

yup which im doing

gotta be ultra lucky then

[glass basin]

or you can wait for wishing well

oh thanks that's quite decent for the gears I have

was gonna use agir but she had issues surviving the last 15 seconds from not being dev25

[icy cave]

hopefully they do that more often

[viscid swift]

you get 2 year during the CN and EN Annis

[glass basin]

so as for free gems: when do they usually give them out

wheled a bit but still need many dockspaces

[viscid swift]

Lunar New Year, Region Anni mainly

[glass basin]

thank god it's in January this year

[soft raft]

Lunar New Year is always Jan-Feb wdym

[cinder hornet]

I'm stuck in 3-3 even when overleveled, what should I work on? gear? (I need to look for a guide about it cos I don't really have any idea about gear yet)

[viscid swift]

Limit breaks on your main fleet for one

[glass basin]

well January is one month earlier than Feb

[soft raft]

limit breaks on your backline will be very helpful

[cinder hornet]

should I use the universal bulins for that? I was saving them just in case

[soft raft]

Universal bullins exist for a reason
the purple ones are pretty common compared to their gold and rainbow counterparts so no reason not to use them

This is also why we dont reccomend new players to use too many SRs at the start

[cinder hornet]

I'm using Z23, Helena and Unicorn cos it's what the guide avised

[glass basin]

early game - Cassin and Downes are your friends

[soft raft]

Cassin and Downes are only really relevant as extreme oil cost min-max for events

[glass basin]

well they are cheap

[cinder hornet]

should I use different team members?

[soft raft]

just because commons are cheap doesnt really mean that reccomending them is a good idea when you can get a strong ensemble of Elites and rares for pratically free

[soft raft]

No
Use your bullins on your backline, they often do the most damage

[cinder hornet]

just to be sure, before breaking her limit, cos Pennsyl and Unicorn I know they are good, but should I use someone else instead of Long Island? (I'm using her because it's higher level)

[glass basin]

well it's low cost, easy to get, decent performance, plus they need to be raised at some point for collection gear

[viscid swift]

one, low cost doesn't matter when you're pushing
two, their performance isn't decent it's just bad
three, they really don't have the resources to spare for a 0 LB Cassin or Downes

[soft raft]

just stick with long island yeah
The only other good CV you have is Hiryuu, but she needs to be retrofitted + be with her sister Soryuu (Who also needs to be retrofitted) to be somewhat considered good

Also if possible, see if you can get Hood and Enterprise asap, they're both very good

[frank pulsar]

they also fall off faster compared to other ship like sara for example
and then suddenly theyre not low cost anymore cuz you need to raise extra ships to replace them

[viscid swift]

if you want to counter go ahead

[narrow ibex]

Is there a way to check all the port shops at once

[cinder hornet]

It will take some time, where are the medals from?

[viscid swift]

retiring rare and higher rarity ships

[viscid swift]

yes, after your first OpSi reset

[cinder hornet]

should I retire characters? I thought that was a bad idea

[viscid swift]

retire dupes

[cinder hornet]

aren't they used to limit break the same char?

[soft raft]

Universal bullins exist

[viscid swift]

yes but you're not gonna use most ships you get

and you won't nearly have enough dock space to hoard that many dupes for future use unless you whale

[quartz breach]

Do Hiei META's barrages require her to be flagship to hit most targets?

[soft raft]

iirc yes

[slim dawn]

I have a lot of gear lab materials, I wonder what things should I craft

[forest palm]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[fallen verge]

whats the bests way to farm retrofit materials?

[forest palm]

Hard Mode

[ivory pawn]

Sometimes they can show up in Guild shop too.

[soft raft]

Harde mode
X-1 for DD
X-2 for CA/CL
X-3 for BB/BC
X-4 for CV/CVL

[eager mulch]

[wild gate]

Im struggling to find anything about whats in this box...cuz it shares the name with Shiranui's Augment, and i dont want to open it if it holds nothing of value. Also, i already have Shiranui's Augment

[tame jungle]

Open it to find out

[wild gate]

but i wanna keep it in my collection if its got just a generic equip

[eager mulch]

i mean, it says it pretty clearly right there

[boreal wagon]

it pulls from the exact same pool of elites as a T3 sakura box would, which also means the equip it gives is not always a sakura empire equip (contrary to what the description says)

[wild gate]

Okay, so i should just keep it for my collection then. Thank you friend

[sweet delta]

How do I get more of them it's been 28 days since my last one and I use shiranui against all campaign bosses

[boreal wagon]

how many do u have now

[stoic tulip]

wjat

[boreal wagon]

good old drop rate moment, i have 3

[stoic tulip]

what's a good shinano build for heavy armor like during meta fights?

Like Tenrai + 2 Vit-2s? Or Ryuseis?

[tame jungle]

she can do torp dive torp

[stoic tulip]

what's considered best in slot for that?

[tame jungle]

the converging torp bombers are all quite similar, with the slower ones doing more damage. use whatever gives you the tightest timing with your other CVs

[soft raft]

Depends on the timings of your other CVs

[tame jungle]

also keep in mind that VIT-2 mode change has slow torpedoes, so you'll probably want the ship equipping those to go first

[stoic tulip]

should shinano get the bow or scepter as her augment for meta fights?

[shell willow]

scepter

[atomic abyss]

you wont be killing planes

even then scepter is almost always better

[undone siren]

How many days do you need to max a META?
i.e how late can you leave a META before you can't max her until she becomes a dossier?

[tame jungle]

roughly a month i think

[turbid dawn]

This may be a stupid question, but does homing beacon stack? It doesn't say it doesn't

[shell willow]

i dont think you can even equip 2

[atomic abyss]

passives of identical equipment never stack

[tame jungle]

you can get 750 for your own meta fights then max 225 daily for your support fights, which would mean it takes 26 days at lv15 to get to the 25k point threshold

[turbid dawn]

Yeah you're right

[narrow ibex]

is a t3 barracuda any good on independence. I don't have any other t3 torepedo bomber yet

[atomic abyss]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

7 bars left
my newb account cant do it but im sure ppl with stronger accs than me can

[undone plover]

Just need more La9

[cobalt rapids]

yes stronger accounts than mine

[jaunty glade]

It it worth it to mlb musashi or should I wait for the next UR coming out in year - I can only do one more this year

[cobalt rapids]

wdym u can only do 1 more
u should be able to afford December mlb if u can afford to mlb musashi now

[atomic abyss]

could you show us what other URs do you have?

[jaunty glade]

https://i.imgur.com/ARvPYsf.png

i only have the mats to fully LB one or the other, not both in year

[undone plover]

How much spec core u have?
And have u finished the cruise pass?

[cobalt rapids]

did u calc cruise pass and 2 from milestone ( musashi + dec UR ) ?

[jaunty glade]

i have 3 bulins from proto and 1 from cruise pass this month, only 1 next month

[jaunty glade]

ohhh ok.. you get a bulin from milestones as well?

[cobalt rapids]

either way u should mlb musashi this week

[undone plover]

I say do musashi
She will help a lot
We dont know what the dec UR is but u can always MLB them later

Also who knows maybe u will get lucky and get dupes

Make sure u buy 1k spec core from medal shop

[cobalt rapids]

yea at most its postponed till january

[forest palm]

the next Cruise Pass will start on Dec, so after about 6 weeks that's another UR Bulin

[tropic tusk]

do we get 1 new UR every year?

[forest palm]

4 new seems to be the standard

[tropic tusk]

4 every year?

wait wht did we have this year? i forgot i only rmb laffy2 is new who else? guam was last year right?

[cobalt rapids]

soyuz, alsace+ mog, amagic ( cv) + the one in december

guam and laffey were last december

[tropic tusk]

oh

right totally forgot about soyuz and them

is mog the first event gift UR ship?

[atomic abyss]

second
laff2 was first

[tropic tusk]

right forgot laff2 was point

[forest palm]

ya Laffii, and Mog are weird cases

[restive socket]

anyone have a 15-4 auto fleet that's 2024 friendly (no laffey2 or guam)
i'll mlb oath musashi asap for it too

[cobalt rapids]

/w15 has a tierlist which has substitutions rated by role, if stuff no work then open thread here and post dock

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[restive socket]

aight

w15 fleet

[queen jackal]

is it normal for the shipyard timed unlock requirements to finish before the xp? im running triple backline for xp and still takes forever

[tame jungle]

where are you farming and how much are you farming

[forest palm]

it is meant to do that

[queen jackal]

12-4, all my oil outside of hard mode is going into it rn

[forest palm]

but like you can totally do a CDC grind in a single day

[tame jungle]

yeah you can go crazy on cdc if you got the oil

[hollow gust]

I killed already

[tame jungle]

if you're running out of oil, well...

[queen jackal]

well yea i usually use up all my oil

[forest palm]

who are you grinding, and what are you even using that it's taking so long on 12-4 XP

[queen jackal]

its not such a big issue, i was just more wondering if it was normal to be working on xp after all the missions are unlocked

[cobalt rapids]

quitter

[hollow gust]

I already oneshotted , cleanly

[cobalt rapids]

what comp

[hollow gust]

Same comp , I couldn't speed up nahkimov fast enough so I just manualed it

[tame pivot]

Which if any of these are worth using Ordinance Testing reports to craft? I already have 1 Twin 457mm that I got from the Proto Shop

[cobalt rapids]

[forest palm]

"manual"

[cobalt rapids]

457, ideally u have 1-2 in depot but u can protocore 1 if u managed ur protocores good

[tame pivot]

this is all my current UR gear btw

[forest palm]

get a second 457, and save

[cobalt rapids]

do u have musashi? prob can go ahead and save for tenrai alr

[tame pivot]

are the other 2 not worth it then?.. this is how many ordinance reports I have rn

[forest palm]

234, and Spearfish are very much luxury items that you'll rarely need to use

[tame pivot]

Nah, was prob gonna get her since I have Amagi CV and Shimi.. plus this is my current cube count

[hollow gust]

You can say the same about 457

[forest palm]

457 has world 14, and 15, which is more than 234, or Spearfish can say

[lucid oriole]

Anyone know how to get these?

[tame pivot]

The next Proto weapon I was gonna go for was the tenrai.. already got the Quad 152mm and the twin 457mm from it

[tame jungle]

play opsi

[hollow gust]

Much rather have a spearfish then a 457

Stig has show it's just as capable as wyverns on endgame story

[tame pivot]

Is the spearfish still worth crafting tho If I already have 3 Vit-2's and can make another 3 at any time..

[forest palm]

VIT-2 is going to be far weaker than a Wyvern, and a Spearfish

[stark quiver]

the vit 2s dont matter

[paper mural]

What gear should I give Indiana? For OpSi and 12-4 leveling

[tame pivot]

How much better are these than the Twin 203mm's?

[forest palm]

457 + Twin 130 + 134/STAAG + White Shell + HSFCR

[tame pivot]

Been using the 203mm's on my heavy cruiser till now since I dont have any UR CA guns..

[paper mural]

Which one is the Twin 130mm you're talking about? There are multiple pieces of gear with that in their name

[forest palm]

there's 2 Gold Twin 130, and they function pretty much the same with minor difference, just pick one at your convince

[paper mural]

Understood. Thank you

[sage nebula]

How is Owari's Halloween skin still glitched. Do they not know? It's been almost a month

[forest palm]

[cobalt rapids]

they are better on heavy and similiar on med and light

[tame pivot]

Worth crafting to replace? or nah.. and just wait for a UR

[cobalt rapids]

if u can spare the coins and parts, they cost very little

[hollow gust]

If you play opsi everything but the rainbow weapons are relatively cheap

[safe iron]

anyone can suggest how my team should look like?

[soft raft]

Post your dock in a thred first

also specify what content you're trying to clear

[safe iron]

im on 13-1 at moment and for opsi

[opaque galleon]

When does gearlab usually get updated with old PR rainbow equipment?

[ornate scarab]

I once again have 9 ur designs, I have no clue what to use them for. I’ve gotten 1 quint torp ur design and 1 wyvren in the past but idk what gear is the best upgrade now

I don’t do op sci often so I want to make the most of what I have

[hollow gust]

Wyerns are usually the best deal

[eager mulch]

[tropic tusk]

my friend just tould me theres a hidden stach of oil and money why was this not say in any guide

[cobalt rapids]

[viscid swift]

what

[ivory pawn]

If you're talking about the mailbox storage, pretty sure it got a passing mention somewhere that is very easy to overlook.

Yep, literally 2nd Newbie Tip.

[vale spindle]

[tropic tusk]

yea mailbox

good thing it waasnt max yet

[ivory pawn]

Yeah, when sam or rice said "Mail is a Bank" they meant it literally, not that you could save the letters for later.

[eager mulch]

I’d like to make a deposit

[tame jungle]

I’d like to withdraw 1 amagi-chan

[tropic tusk]

how do they gen tho

i never my oil next cap

[ivory pawn]

We get oil/coins in the mail sometimes for whatever reasons.
When you claim them from mail, they go to the storage.

[tropic tusk]

oh when u claim they dont go to u they go mail?

[ivory pawn]

Yep. That's how I discovered the existence of the storage, when I noticed I didn't get the coins I was going to immediately use.

Or the oil, I forget.

[tropic tusk]

this whole time when i click collect from mail and i didnt get oil i thought it was just bug n ignore it lol

and i have been clicking mail for a year

[fluid brook]

Whats todays Heavy CV Ijn fleet?

And loadout if possible

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[fluid brook]

Thanks

[cobalt rapids]

youre welcome

[restive socket]

ty for the help umi

[cobalt rapids]

anytime

[restive socket]

@cobalt rapids oh wait one more thing, should i use amagi cv over haku

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[restive socket]

cause id have her maxed by the time musashi is
ty

[lofty blaze]

Should I musashi?
cube status: 201

[little geyser]

What is this?

[cobalt rapids]

theres 44 free pulls first of all

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki akashi quest

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[little geyser]

What happens after all the paw prints? Wiki won't load fully

[sharp socket]

you get akashi

[little geyser]

Alright thank you 🙂

[restive socket]

i still don't have her, it's not worth it right cause you have to do like w1 hard and stuff

but that's just cause I'm rushing

[stark quiver]

shes shit, get for collection

[restive socket]

yeah

[rapid moth]

Sorry! Misclick om phone

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[brisk dragon]

just curious . is there any new ships or retro announced next week or smth? " trying to hit the 777/777 collection before it changes"

[sweet delta]

Look at the leaderboard and that's the max possible

[viscid swift]

there's a stream this friday revealing the collab ships

[brisk dragon]

hm? i don't get it

[brisk dragon]

ok i take there's nothing announced yet. i still have at least few days to try. ty

[eager mulch]

collab ships don’t count for collection anyways

[brisk dragon]

oh ye collabs don't count right? so unless there's a new retro or smth it'll stay 777

was already typing that. ty

[viscid swift]

which I'm 99.9% sure there won't be

[eager mulch]

amagi-chan counts for collection

[brisk dragon]

even better. didn't do last pr yet. saving every cube i can till i get all collabs

[viscid swift]

just remember the event most likely lasts 2 weeks as per usual

[brisk dragon]

yup that'll work hopefully

[tropic tusk]

no new retrofit anytime soon?

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't expect the next one until LNY

[tropic tusk]

wts lny

[forest palm]

kind of a who knows moment

[viscid swift]

Lunar New Year

[brisk dragon]

when is that?

[tropic tusk]

oh ok

[viscid swift]

should be some time January to February

[forest palm]

LNY is like late jan, early feb

[viscid swift]

no idea where it'll land this year

[brisk dragon]

i see. hope u're right

[forest palm]

2025 will be the 29th of January, which is a day before Thursday...funny

[viscid swift]

well there's the data pretty much

you can see a very distinct pattern emerging as we head into 2022

[tropic tusk]

alot to do to catch up

[eager mulch]

finally, fu shun retro

[viscid swift]

you will get Hwa Jah retro and be happy

[bold stream]

hello, where can I can farm those gold cruiser retrofit? I am lv 55..

[viscid swift]

x-2 hard nodes above chapter 3 where x is the chapter

[eager mulch]

only more amagi-chans can make me happy

[bold stream]

Thanks!

[barren tapir]

also as one-time 3 starring rewards for x-2 starting with ch3

++check your guild shop

[desert silo]

Is there any way to reduce the morale drain of sorting?

Kthx

[storm heron]

putting ships to the dorm for faster morale recovery but there's really no way to reduce the drain

oath gives you 10 more morale recovery too but imagine oathing for morale recovery

[desert silo]

Is RLD just attack speed?

[viscid swift]

not exactly

[storm heron]

one of the things that affect attack speed

[viscid swift]

there's multiple factors in determining weapon reload

[stark quiver]

it helps speed up a guns reload time

[viscid swift]

reload stat is one of them, the base reload of the weapon is another

[desert silo]

Thanks all

[storm heron]

problem

[coarse heron]

world's first sigmawhale, just oaths every ship in the game for stats and morale recovery

[weary gust]

Does oathing a ship give more fleet power?

[sharp socket]

it gives more stats so id assume yes

[storm heron]

should be since fp depends on stat

[proper acorn]

what PR ship should I get?
Already have: Roon, Monarch, FdG, Anchorage

[viscid swift]

AvP, Agir, etc
A PR3 ship for the missions

[storm heron]

getting a PR ship is ok, as long as you stay on PR4 focus until you're done

[rancid mural]

Is this yellow 12 hour research worth it

[viscid swift]

absolutely not

also please set your research focus to PR4

and actually keep your queue full for that matter

[rancid mural]

I've never been able to queue

[wanton dawn]

in tw server, we are getting guam, laffey2 and soyuz these 2 months, with limited bulin, who shld i prioritise leveling up first? thanks

[viscid swift]

that's because you haven't actually "paid" for the research yet

[rancid mural]

Oh is that how that works

I see

[wanton dawn]

why is it not worth

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
might wanna give that a read

[viscid swift]

the expression you get what you pay for is apt, you get nothing and spend 12 hours to get relatively little for the time you spent

[viscid swift]

probably Guam first and by the time Soyuz roles around you should have enough for her so she's next

[sharp socket]

can i do 15-1 without dedicated support carriers since i dont have them raised yet

[weary gust]

Depends on how good your fleets are. It would be possible in general, yes.

[sharp socket]

just want the gems

[weary gust]

I would say it doesn't take very long to get a ship to 120.

[stark quiver]

you can cover up with better fleets , more account strength

[sharp socket]

it will look funny

[storm heron]

avp and enty

[sharp socket]

for 15-1

cause i dont have my support carriers raised + shimanto

or my 2nd UR AA

[storm heron]

idk how high of a bar is 15-1, but that ain't surviving 15-3 or 15-4

[stark quiver]

it could possibly work

[viscid swift]

doesn't look brilliant if I'm honest

[stark quiver]

you sur you dont have better bb for mob?

[sharp socket]

ill get my proper fleetcomp in about 2-3 months that will be for the rest of w15

[storm heron]

sounds like you are very desperate on the gems

[sharp socket]

i have alsace for mob as another option

[stark quiver]

agir is prob gonna explode

[viscid swift]

Agir isn't really doing anything

[storm heron]

I would put alsace in boss and soyuz in mob

also if you are doing full auto I would remove volga's beacon to stagger

[sharp socket]

i just want a little more dockspace to hold onto since tempasta ate some of it

[storm heron]

and depending on the fight swapping agir for something else like another AA carry with decent bulk might be better

agir's heavy armor and lack of aa is just

[stark quiver]

you rly need some 90mms at least in mob

[sharp socket]

eld is also in there

[viscid swift]

you'd honestley be better off having Eldridge main tank and finding someone else to off tank

[sharp socket]

eld could solo tank mob in 14-4 which was surprising to me so maybe she can perform well in 15-1 aswell which should be slightly easier that 14-4?

[undone plover]

have you done the collections for gems? might be easier than ch15

[sharp socket]

yea i finished that

[barren tapir]

relatable

[sharp socket]

i have some gem commissions rolling maybe i can

[barren tapir]

grind c1 and pray maybe, not like we have an event ongoing rn

[viscid swift]

I got like 120 over a few days recently so it is possible

[stark quiver]

how bro

[barren tapir]

luck

also forbidden farm strats

[jaunty dawn]

I started about a week ago and was wondering if I should invest in this team

[stark quiver]

no

indianapolis is not it

[viscid swift]

nope, just regular farming from me

[viscid swift]

drop Indianapolis for your starter DD and drop one of Essex or intrepid and replace them with a Battleship

[stark quiver]

i had enough gems from comms to get +10 dock, but accidentally bought oil

[storm heron]

has Celerio swiped? esp with all that oaths

[barren tapir]

that works too it's all luck in the end, just the forbidden strats get you more dice rolls for your resources

[viscid swift]

which I don't do

[barren tapir]

i know, you said so the first time lol

[stark quiver]

2-1 farm?

[viscid swift]

that among other things

[stark quiver]

slide the strats pls

[viscid swift]

the closest I get is B-1 farming

[barren tapir]

any 0lb farm (0lbs can do up to w6 safely) and c1 in opsi

[storm heron]

in my experience, sortieing shortly after the reset gives more urgent comms

[barren tapir]

can also do b1 farm in event as well ^

[stark quiver]

im a proud 2-1 farmer

[sharp socket]

of course

[barren tapir]

you're basically trading time and a bunch of stuff for more comms (cube, gem, arguably oil since 0lb is so efficient and also slow). not really worth it unless you have lots of free time and nothing else you care about grinding out

[undone plover]

tbh even with c1 farming in my experience u dont get many more gem comms

u get more comms overall but rarely gem comms

[viscid swift]

I really don't need the extra few gems right now

[sharp socket]

im not swiping for dockspace though, only for skins

[undone plover]

damn cheeky are u still f2p
that is an impressive dockspace count

[viscid swift]

yes

[barren tapir]

ye to me gem comm is a bonus, i like the oil and morale free exp, very slight ap gain (according to sheets at least) and chance for more cubes

[viscid swift]

and this is with me having 4 dorm slots and the 2nd floor

[storm heron]

I have a f2p alt account and the dock management sux

[stark quiver]

the joys of not making shitty gem decisioons

[jaunty dawn]

Is Rodney a good battle ship since it’s my only purple one

[viscid swift]

not entirely true, I have missed my fair share of gems esepcially in the early days because I didn't do twitter and I have spent gems for oil at least once

[viscid swift]

she works as filler for now

[stark quiver]

have you bought those in-sortie ship repairs

[viscid swift]

no

[stark quiver]

i see, most of my f2p gems went there

[viscid swift]

yeah...

[storm heron]

must be 3 starring w15

[undone plover]

spend your gems on dock space so u dont have anything to spend on bad stuff

[storm heron]

idk low gems kinda gives anxiety

[desert silo]

How am I supposed to get anything from exercises when the lowest ship I’ll see is 115 and oathed?

[sharp socket]

beat it with good ships

[ancient socket]

You still get merits even if you lose.

[storm heron]

keep resetting until you find something you can beat

[undone plover]

u still get merit if u lose
but u could also ignore it till u have more levelled ships

[sharp socket]

otherwise refresh

[storm heron]

not recommended unless you want your pvp winrate not being 99.9%

[stark quiver]

i compelted everything
newbie mistakes

[desert silo]

Highest I have is 70, do I just accept that? Do ships lose morale or anything?

[ancient socket]

No.

[storm heron]

I got so lucky with the recon fleets in 15-4 to the point I forgot the repair exist

[wind hazel]

just accept the losses for now, it's normal for new players.

[storm heron]

forever not 99.9% pvp winrate, or losing gold bulin each month

[viscid swift]

you don't lose anything for well losing and you still get half the merit

no reason not to do it really

[sharp socket]

winrate

[stark quiver]

if you play for meta you know whats best

[weary gust]

100% winrate means you only pick the very easiest of the battles. high 90's with lots of exercises and ranking higher is a lot more impressive imo than someone who obviously only plays it to never lose.

[barren tapir]

just use exercises as free exp gain for your ships until you have lvl120 ships that can win, unless you care about pointless exercise winrate% on your profile

when i remember to do them i just toss 6 tech shitters i want to get some free exp on

[sharp socket]

you can get 100% winrate with aotn too

[paper ore]

is there a chance encounter rate % for akashi in Operation siren

[wind hazel]

not as a newbie

[weary gust]

I wouldn't think of exercises as a good source of exp, but maybe for new players it's a somewhat significant source

[barren tapir]

data collection says approximately 5% per map

[paper ore]

what about the data collection tower

[barren tapir]

for brand new players its good bc it doesnt cost any oil or morale at a time when your oil efficiency is nonexistent and your dorm is likely very limited, so yeah.

once you're more established it stops being good and becomes just ok

[stark quiver]

i do pvp for merits not placement

[sharp socket]

good placement = more merits

[wind hazel]

placement matters for more merit

[stark quiver]

in the sense that i dont tryhard pvp

[wind hazel]

you should

[sharp socket]

its fine if you dont go for eos but aotn rush is normal

[ancient socket]

I do it for fun since I don't need the merits anymore. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
But win ratio isn't really suitable for gameplay-help, I don't think so. This doesn't mean anything.
A new player is expected to lose from time to time, and it's fine if they lose because they still get something anyway.

[atomic abyss]

I wouldn't bother try harding with pvp

Especially if you need to remember to swap your gears every time

[wind hazel]

gold bulins don't come free

[atomic abyss]

At least you're still actually doing it for bulin income

[rancid mural]

How do you up recon value

[stark quiver]

and i dont rly tryhard with suboptimal/shit comps

[atomic abyss]

You use use more CLs and DDs, aka things with higher evasion

Ganj is probably dragging your recon down here

[rancid mural]

Ah makes sense

Is there any gear or does leveling help

[viscid swift]

here's the formula

bearing in mind the fleet with the higher value is used

[sharp socket]

no one except like 3 people understand that so use more cl/dd and cv

[storm heron]

are my eyes bad or there's no Ganj there

[viscid swift]

what

[atomic abyss]

Oh sorry, fancy

[stark quiver]

i understand that

[viscid swift]

it's literally just the total evasion aviation of the fleet to the 2/3s power

[storm heron]

I thought ganj has a skin that's similar to some ships

[atomic abyss]

It wouldn't help enough unless your gear is absolute ass to begin with
Which is an entirely different issue

[low harness]

how much coins do i need to reach the musashi pity? thanks

[viscid swift]

(200-44)*1500

[rancid mural]

Just upgraded some gear

[eager mulch]

234k?

[rancid mural]

That formula helped.

[low harness]

whats the -44?

[eager mulch]

tickets

[viscid swift]

the 44 build tickets you can earn throughout the rerun

[eager mulch]

reryn

[low harness]

ah i see, thanks

[viscid swift]

anyway, dare I ask if that UvH is 6 stars

[rancid mural]

No

[sharp socket]

he can understand the magic math

[viscid swift]

well that's part of your issue

literal garbage right there

[sweet delta]

Does garbage go in the retirement bin?

[storm heron]

that UvH is doing less than 20% the damage of a real UvH, 5% if you include levels and gears

[rancid mural]

She's usually close to mvp

[viscid swift]

some of it, not in this case though

well no sh*t especially if she's in preload node

[eager mulch]

absolute garbage goes to the retirement bin, regular garbage goes to the bench

[sharp socket]

the problem is that she isnt doing twice the damage numbers of everyone else

[sweet delta]

That just means the rest of your main fleet is also garbage

[viscid swift]

yeah, don't take end screen damage numbers at face value

[rancid mural]

It's my "clear 3 mobs so my other team can clear 5" team

[viscid swift]

let me put it like this, I would take a common MLB BB over a 0 LB UvH

[storm heron]

what is this new strat

[sharp socket]

so you have a bodythrow fleet and a main fleet

[eager mulch]

i would take an amagi chan over a 0lb uvh

[rancid mural]

Yea

[static harbor]

Gibe Amagi CV plane loadouts please

[sweet delta]

It's an ancient strat

[storm heron]

avoiding OoA battles by putting healer in each fleet

[rancid mural]

Body throw and main

[stark quiver]

youre so lucky

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[barren tapir]

i wouldnt use her for anything besides crossfleet unless mlb you prolly have someone better

[static harbor]

Ayeee

[rancid mural]

I dunno maybe

[viscid swift]

Colorado right there

[barren tapir]

that said. if it works, and you don't have anything immediately better, might as well cos gph is about generally sound advice for most situations.

oh yeah use colorado outside of the crossfleet she's a straight upgrade to uvh rn

[storm heron]

she's taking commissions though

[viscid swift]

UvH can do that

[rancid mural]

Yea true

[barren tapir]

well make uvh take commissions next time

[viscid swift]

I swear this pays for itself

[barren tapir]

ye just wait til that's done then swap it's fine

[rancid mural]

Ight

[storm heron]

ha I knew it

[viscid swift]

well that's what the tag is for

[barren tapir]

might wanna begin investing in nelson also she's pretty great imo

[viscid swift]

and also you really whaled right there

[rancid mural]

Yea I'm like 40 dollars deep lol

[viscid swift]

should have gone for Izumo rather than Anchorage but oh well

[storm heron]

sorry what whale?

[rancid mural]

I wanted the points for the DR

[barren tapir]

tbh i could tell by the progress + dock space comparison

[viscid swift]

they payed for the voucher to get Anchorage

[rancid mural]

Yea 10 dollah for Anchorage

[barren tapir]

i mean anchorage is rlly good and usable from dev25

[viscid swift]

you do know that Kearsarge is gonna be useless for the months it takes to get enough BPs to dev 30 her right?

[rancid mural]

None of those words make any sense to me

[barren tapir]

since as a newbie ur only tank is portland and maybe roon if you go her for fdg points

[viscid swift]

And PR6 is pretty much last on the priority list for seasons to do so it's more like years

[storm heron]

kear needs bp, bp takes 6 months of PR6 focus

[barren tapir]

tho they have fancy too i suppose but shes a bitch to actually equip

[sharp socket]

you can be f2p and do all the content in the game without whaling

[viscid swift]

that DR you paid money to try and unlock faster is useless without a lot of investment which will take months at least

[sharp socket]

this is because the good stuff is either limited or time gated

[rancid mural]

Wait isn't Anchorage fine by herself?

[rancid mural]

I built roon normally.

[storm heron]

that means you can either unlock kearsarge now, next week, 2 months later, or whatever but it doesn't matter when you don't have enough bps to d30 her yet

[viscid swift]

PR ships aren't fully enhanced out of the gate, a DR esepcially will take months to get the BPs needed for Dev 30

[barren tapir]

true given enough time but whaling does make it easier to keep every ship earlier on and can also provide a nice head start on things lol

[sharp socket]

for reference ask cheeky, the guy helping you right now

[viscid swift]

yes but what you really don't need another tank right now when you have 3 competent ones and you do need more good main fleets

[rancid mural]

Ah

[viscid swift]

Which Izumo is

[barren tapir]

oh i derped i didnt see they got sanfran

[sharp socket]

whaling for gameplay is a poor decision but it is ultimately your decision, though it wouldnt hurt to learn more before swiping

[rancid mural]

Isn't sanfran more of a healer

[stark quiver]

how is she a healer

[viscid swift]

no, when in the leftmost position she's at least as competent a tank as Portland

[rancid mural]

In the middle spot

[barren tapir]

she can tank, offtank, and vg supp depending on where she is placed. pretty versatile

[rancid mural]

She does healing

It's saved me a lot

[viscid swift]

she does, but that's not the only role she can fullfill

[barren tapir]

her healing is nice but not enough to replace a proper healer - she is supplementary support

[sweet delta]

Jack of all roles, master of none

[rancid mural]

Yea San Fran+aquilla seem to work well together

[viscid swift]

Increases this ship's EVA and AA by 1% (10%). Activates one of the following effects based on this ship's position in your Vanguard during battle:
Front (and also when this ship is your last afloat Vanguard ship): increases this ship's EVA and AA by 1% (5%), and decreases her DMG taken by 5% (15%).
Middle: heals all ships in your Vanguard for 5% (10%) of their max HP 20s after the battle starts.
Rear: increases this ship's FP by 5% (15%) and AA by 1% (10%), and also increases your whole Vanguard's DMG dealt to enemies by 5%.

people need to read skills more closely

[sharp socket]

well thats cause aquila is really good at healing

[sweet delta]

Good ship works well with good ship

[sweet delta]

*people need to read

[south sequoia]

I think that's more or less with the fact your boss fleet is struggling to survive due to lack of damage so the "healing" is seemingly more useful than it actually is

[sweet delta]

No that's their throwaway mob fleet

[south sequoia]

what

[sweet delta]

Halfmob fleet

[sharp socket]

bodythrow fleet

[south sequoia]

[rancid mural]

Yea it does half the mobs

[sweet delta]

To let the unicorn fleet do boss with ammo

[rancid mural]

Yea exactly

[sharp socket]

kills 3 mobs so that the actual mob does the other mobs and boss with full ammo

[barren tapir]

newbie strategies when ur not strong enough to onefleet without ammo but still building a 2nd fleet, basically

[sharp socket]

tbh i did that too until i had leveled enough ships for a proper mob/boss setup

[sweet delta]

Not a bad idea when you have 9-10 good ships, spread exp in preparation for a real second fleet

[barren tapir]

i did the other newbie strategy which was hyperlevel 2 ships (for me, uni and phoenix) to 1:1 all mob then have a boss fleet for boss, while slowly building up more ships for mobfleet lol

[sweet delta]

Now that is the

[sharp socket]

the corpse dragging method

[rancid mural]

I saw a strat for that using fletcher

[barren tapir]

hey it worked i had to go from w4 to w12 in 1 go after the amagi event ended okay i wasnt gonna fullfleet until oilcap

[barren tapir]

huh no, i was building up ships skills and tagging them in occasionally like nelson for suicide botes

they got most of the levels from amagi event but needed skill levels

[rancid mural]

I let this fucker tank the suicide boats

[barren tapir]

that is certainly a method

[viscid swift]

just use a BB and give them a good aux gun

[barren tapir]

tbf hood has weak secondaries

[storm heron]

can hood with the twin 137 be good enough though?

[stone sluice]

I assume Musashi gonna replace fdg, right?

[rancid mural]

Getting gold gear is stupidly difficult

[sharp socket]

this guy is not making a twin 137

[barren tapir]

sure but is a newbie gonna have a twin 137? i used purple 128 and it was ummm not good

[sharp socket]

yes

this fleet is only will be for 15-1 tho, im not sending it to 15-4

[barren tapir]

eventually w10/11 i gave up on hood, made her boss and used nelson for actual intercept on mobs, hood didnt do shit for me bc i didnt have the funds to make her augment unfortunately 💀 (and now i wont make it bc i have better ships and other roles that need augment more)

[rancid mural]

Like X-3 levels seem to be the only consistent way to get gold gear

[storm heron]

surprisingly expensive for newbies (not sarcasm)

[barren tapir]

dont farm gold gear in campaign

[rancid mural]

I meant the rainbow box

From clearing like 9-3 10-3

[barren tapir]

oh yeah those help!

[rancid mural]

The planes are kinda hard to parse which are good or not lol

[sharp socket]

ecgc should have that info

[rancid mural]

Who knows

[sharp socket]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[storm heron]

purple corsair better than purple hellcat

[rancid mural]

Oh ill check that out

And bookmark it.

[barren tapir]

hellcat is fine if you dont have corsair i kept getting hellcats lol

[queen jackal]

idg fdgs 2nd skill, does it mean odd/even firing gun or do the buffs alternate per round of salvo

[rancid mural]

Corsair best?

[storm heron]

I think purple corsair has like less cooldown than the purple hellcat

wait

I lied sorry, they are about the same

More like 1% less cooldown

[sharp socket]

use corsair, they upgrade later so you save mats

but gold hellcat/seafang will be better

[storm heron]

at the point they craft flapjack, mats will probably not matter anymore

[sharp socket]

nevermind gold seafang is about equal to corsair

[storm heron]

gold one is a bit faster and increase 5% AA

[sweet delta]

Purple Corsair does more damage than purple hellcat

[barren tapir]

it's t3 bombs so slightly higher dmg

[storm heron]

oh it's because of that I see

around 9% more damage too

[sharp halo]

essentially , what do i need to do after getting all OpSi zone controlled? where do i farm for the prints.

[sweet delta]

All abyssal zones, all strongholds, all hidden zones, all daily missions daily, normal and hard arbiters, any classified loggers you bought, and then dump AP on corrosion 3 or 5 safe zone if your choice (or go farm stars)

[sharp halo]

thankss!

[versed forum]

Im halfway to 12-4 my Independence or Portland always die is this even good boss fleet?

[sweet delta]

A fleet with level 77 ships is not good for 12-4 lethal

And independence without retro is very bad

But otherwise that fleet has good enough ships

[viscid swift]

they're dead weight, would be better off dropping them tbh

[versed forum]

I don't have any good cv is nagato m okay enough to replace inde

[viscid swift]

if she's MLB yes

[sweet delta]

ACV 📉

[viscid swift]

you would also be better off going triple CV in the mob fleet and stacking your BBs in your boss fleet if that's how you want to approach it

[sweet delta]

But then again independence without retro is very bad

[viscid swift]

I also just realized that Enty is level 79

my advice, drop back down to 12-1 for a bit and get some more levels on your ships

you're jumping the gun a bit

[versed forum]

Ok thanks

[vast sparrow]

gud dd for American BBs

[jaunty vault]

wtf emote spam
mods where

[exotic wren]

who would newbies put them on tho

[storm heron]

probably on everyone

[jaunty vault]

no one

newbies should not craft the 137

[exotic wren]

might as wll get this one instead, if they don't have the pr3 one

[eager mulch]

gn bby

[jaunty vault]

sweet dreams

[exotic wren]

no flirting here

[jaunty vault]

daedalus for gph mod 2025

[forest palm]

[ember roost]

where can I get prototype su-2?

[forest palm]

from PR5 research, though not sure why you'd want it

[ember roost]

Is it bad?

[forest palm]

not necessarily, but it's pretty mid

[ember roost]

aww ok…

What is the alternative

[forest palm]

Purple Helldiver until you get a Tenrai

[ember roost]

thank you

[little tree]

Is it fine to use twin 40 over romba on sandy ?

[forest palm]

you're going to have to narrow that one down

[little tree]

Twin 40 borfos

My bad

[forest palm]

Bofors is a no go for Sandy

unless you mean sextuple

[viscid swift]

twin 40 is a stagg so no

[forest palm]

there's a lot of 40mm guns

[forest palm]

ya STAAG is a no go for Sandy

[little tree]

All my backliners have one bench the extra ?

[viscid swift]

only so many Twin 40mm bofors, and of these stagg is the only relevant one

[keen pewter]

what are the best magnetic sub torps

[viscid swift]

yes

[keen pewter]

for wolfpack subs

[viscid swift]

Bidder

[sharp socket]

bidder, else g7e

[keen pewter]

aight

[sharp socket]

it can take a while to get 6 bidders

[forest palm]

Bidders should be the most simple to use

[coarse heron]

there's faffing about with reload breakpoints to properly use the G7E I think?

[forest palm]

something like that, but it's nothing that demanding

plus I ain't gonna tell someone to chase 40 RLD off of cats

[dreamy blade]

is it worth awakening Nelson to 125, so far I've only done uni and amagi cv

[coarse heron]

I only have 24 reload from cats

[wind hazel]

no

[keen pewter]

do you have better bbs?

if so, no, if not, probably no

[stark quiver]

youll have better bbs soon, nelson is just a transitionary ship

[barren tapir]

nelson is good but keep at 120 not worth

[dreamy blade]

my only other bbs are hiei/nagato meta and hood, and musashi eventually

[wind hazel]

musashi 125 good

[barren tapir]

120 is good enough anyway, 125 is for w14 w15 and harby so only 125 ships youll use for those imo

[wind hazel]

BB it's really only reserved for the UR, except warspite. nowadays maybe even uvh and nj, depending on who you have

[keen pewter]

isnt warspite pretty mid

[wind hazel]

yes

[stark quiver]

yea
thats why except warspite
too much UR bbs nowadays

[keen pewter]

oh i misread that message

[wind hazel]

never gonna escape EN allegation

[dreamy blade]

I guess I'll just chill and wait for musashi

there's a UR bulin in her event milestone rewards?

[forest palm]

yup

[wind hazel]

yes there is

[tropic tusk]

u need 4 UR bullins to mlb her tho

[dreamy blade]

ok cool I'll just need 1 more after that then

[stark quiver]

cope for dupes

[dreamy blade]

looks like I'll have to wait for monthly reset since I spent core on Sandy's retro item

[forest palm]

did you get the proto cores from the medal shop?

[dreamy blade]

yup

[forest palm]

waiting game it is

[wind hazel]

if you're low on spcore, just wait until end of event before you MLB your Musashi

who knows you get lucky and get all 5 musashi without needing UR bulin

[dreamy blade]

surely

[wind hazel]

or you get 0 and need to pity

[forest palm]

44 free pulls just gotta pray

[dreamy blade]

how many coins am I supposed to have saved for her btw

[storm heron]

would not recommend pulling on event afte getting musashi if you don't have enough cubes for dec ur

[barren tapir]

234k across 7 days

[wind hazel]

he did the mafs

[tropic tusk]

15k per 10 pull

theres also to love ru collab after musashi

[dreamy blade]

my coin limit is only 59k...

[wind hazel]

that's only the soft cap

[tropic tusk]

so if i where u stop when u get her and save for next pool

[barren tapir]

59k + grind 25k per day, done

[wind hazel]

dont worry about the soft cap limit

[storm heron]

how much gold can one even get in a week assuming event

[barren tapir]

depends on how much oil you stocked in advance

[sweet delta]

Several million

[forest palm]

in a week? I could probably farm maybe 5 mil total

[barren tapir]

isnt that like 800k oil at 6:1 ratio

[wind hazel]

maybe these nerds buy oil

[forest palm]

sometimes

[barren tapir]

[dreamy blade]

how does that work? you can't claim gold from hq if you're at cap but you still get clearing rewards from maps?

[storm heron]

how about assuming 0 mail income?

[tropic tusk]

u cant claim gold but u can still earn by clearing maps

[sweet delta]

Everything except HQ Merchant works

[sweet delta]

If you scrap all your tech box gear and ships and gear...

[storm heron]

I don't really find the point ignoring merchant when you have tons to upgrades

[barren tapir]

well assuming base oil income if you play actively and daily

it's about 6k per day (averaged over a week) + you start with like 15k preemptively built up + 6900 from previous weekly stuff + 5000 from the event shop + 1000 from 3* rewards

total oil would be ~70k

[dreamy blade]

are there maps more efficient than 12-4 for coins only

[barren tapir]

15k preemptive is like you go over your softcap but not so much that the canteen caps out*

also no mails

[sweet delta]

14-4 is the most efficient oil per coin among oil capped maps and excluding event shops

[dreamy blade]

well 12-4 is the highest I've unlocked

[wind hazel]

it's good enough

[storm heron]

15k oil at start, and max canteen

[barren tapir]

if we convert oil to coin at a rate of 7:1 (includes ship retirement and so on) and add 10k per day from various daily things or so

you're looking at 560k coins

[viscid swift]

which just so happens to be good for coins

[storm heron]

how is it 1:7?

[stark quiver]

since i have sashi already, is it safe to completly skip the banner

[barren tapir]

12-4 is like 6 coin per oil and then u have ship retirement from the drops

[sweet delta]

/wiki chapter 12a

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_12

[viscid swift]

well obviously still use your tickets and grind the event

[stark quiver]

well yea thres free puls but with cubes no right

[dreamy blade]

Yeah I've checked 12-4 myself and it's about 6:1

[storm heron]

you forgot to farm the event?

[viscid swift]

what

[storm heron]

backread for context

[viscid swift]

I have and it still doesn't make sense

[barren tapir]

317 oil per run and average of 175 coin drop + average 1975 clearing reward = 6.78 coin per oil

adding ship drop into coins = 7 pretty easily (each ship drop = 12 coins minimum + small extra from their stock gears)

[storm heron]

I mean if you decide to not farm the event then sure assuming 1:7 is fine

[viscid swift]

B1 farming is a thing

[barren tapir]

i thought ppl just wanted to know how much coin u could get if u focused on it in event

regardless, the amount is 560k or so, meaning you have loads of leeway and are safe to grind event, bc you only need 234k coins

[storm heron]

well realistically too

[barren tapir]

well then reduce it by like 40%

[wind hazel]

or you know, prepare the coin before the event starts

[viscid swift]

the realistic thing would be to farm in advance

[dreamy blade]

hm so 12-3 potentially better coins if you just get lucky with spawns?

[sweet delta]

not at all

[sweet delta]

the range just means lack of data

[barren tapir]

regardless if you start at 0 coins but stocked up oil preemptively like i wrote, and play actively, you will make 300k+ coins grinding the event over 7 days. so

[barren tapir]

using this oil level

[stark quiver]

a bit off topic but why do you swap secretaries a lot

[barren tapir]

you also have mails in an emergency

[viscid swift]

I have random sec on

[barren tapir]

the range is an approximation, coin/oil consistently goes up from x-1 to x-4 before slightly dropping on the next x-1 and repeat

there is this table from cn data as well

map/cogs per run/coins/oil efficiency

[sweet delta]

this table is for clearing rewards only, no fleet drops

[stark quiver]

i gain 180 pts from 1x d3 of event right?

[sweet delta]

if it's 1x then usually yes

[viscid swift]

yes

[storm heron]

Is there a guide on coin management? Cause Idk how tf you get that much coins

[stark quiver]

there isnt
its called just grind more than you spend

[sweet delta]

be a 👴

[tropic tusk]

why do u need a guide on how to spend lol

[viscid swift]

it's not difficult, don't slack and let oil pile up and don't spend more than you earn

[storm heron]

no oil loss, all spendings on face only

[tropic tusk]

is there any requirement for this ?

[barren tapir]

resource management cant be taught it is learned thru experience

[dreamy blade]

I was hoarding my mail coins for awhile but I dipped into it so I could grab some of those 30min researches

[storm heron]

limit breaking only when needed, no awakenings

[tropic tusk]

or i can just go in with helena ?

[barren tapir]

but basically just prioritize your specific goals and manage your stuff based on that. like do cheaper researches if you need to build a lot in an event

[viscid swift]

are you still coining ships

between that and research alone will eat a lot of coins

[storm heron]

3k yes

[sweet delta]

if you need helena to oneshot then you need helena to oneshot. If you can't oneshot with helena then do whatever is consistent for two shots

[barren tapir]

focus on Q research during event then you will have no problem

also lay off on levelling gold/UR if needed since their LB and awakening is pretty costly

[sweet delta]

*focus on Q research always then you will have no problem

[dreamy blade]

me af

[barren tapir]

get some low rarity shitters going during event rld tech ahoy

[stark quiver]

imagine stacking nevada, okla, and cali in one fleet, lol cant be me

[barren tapir]

me planning on doing that soon

[sharp socket]

12-4 coin/oil ratio is 6.8

[viscid swift]

can't realate

[sharp socket]

source: i collected it and its also in wiki

[barren tapir]

probably in collab, they have very nice cheap oilcap

[viscid swift]

mostly because it be better to mix in a CV rather than painfully leveling 3 shitty BBs

[storm heron]

Also is # of daily resource extraction in a day random or given?

[barren tapir]

up to 10

[storm heron]

10h worth?

[viscid swift]

it's always 10

[barren tapir]

this 10 includes awakening variant which gives cog chips*

[dreamy blade]

having to sit through 3 barrage animations per sortie no thanks

[barren tapir]

who cares if im not looking at the screen

[storm heron]

why do you torture urself by watching the screen

[stone sluice]

It might be more than 234k coins since limit breaking ships + leveling them up to 120 is a bit expensive

[barren tapir]

that's just the coins to hit pity

[coarse heron]

Now imagine one of the ships is Gascogne

[barren tapir]

and one is off flag uvh

[storm heron]

UvH?

[stark quiver]

ulrich von hutten

[storm heron]

what is the other one?

[stark quiver]

other one?

[sweet delta]

U vs H, who is H?

[wary shoal]

Can anyone recommend a QE meta fleet? She has a very, difficult mechanic it seems

[coarse heron]

isn't the mechanic counter just "bring a Meta ship"?