gameplay-help

[storm heron]

is afinity gain random normal?

[spare mango]

I saw the guide use an shan she's the best?

[whole crypt]

which guide

[spare mango]

Suchi cm

[late flame]

kimo?

[whole crypt]

nowadays Tai Yuan's probably better if you have her

[storm heron]

woops

[late flame]

just spam 12-1 ez

[spare mango]

I have her too

Okay gonna try thx for the advice

[frank pulsar]

tai yuan is better now, an shan should still be good though

[storm heron]

tai yuan was made this year right?

[frank pulsar]

yes

[storm heron]

so no taiyuan last year

[whole crypt]

anyway affinity isn't straight 1/16 but from experience on average it's close enough https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Talk:Affinity

[sweet delta]

Anshan may be better for BB fleet due to armor break

[frank pulsar]

...an shan has ab? since when

[frank pulsar]

ive been using her for forever and never knew that
thats on me

[atomic abyss]

neither did I

[late flame]

me too

[atomic abyss]

an shan for BB comps?

tho ig cc buffs soyuz

[gusty olive]

How is Neptune's Aug?

[storm heron]

neither did I

[atomic abyss]

a significant improvement to her tankiness and DPS
not enough to make her relevant however

i guess she is the tankiest CL in an unpaired context now

[coarse heron]

So not worth the 21k gold?

[rain bobcat]

on the uh zwei alsace soy/mushi setups do people use agir or brest

[frank pulsar]

i use agir

[atomic abyss]

as with any aug
only buy it if youre gonna use her

[rain bobcat]

[atomic abyss]

at least with agir you can cope with the slow and AB

[coarse heron]

I guess the real question is what we would even use a very tanky CL for

[atomic abyss]

and she's also tankier

brest's tankiness only really shines over the course of a mobbing fleet because of her heals

[whole crypt]

anywhere you want, just fix the rest of the fleet if you need more oomph for other things

[rain bobcat]

faster buff though for the vanguard to do more dmg

[atomic abyss]

you say that but we have a great wall of china

[frank pulsar]

some people use brest for alsace iirc, but i prefer agir
idk which is actually better though

[coarse heron]

China stronk

the real question is does it make Neptune tanky enough to main tank W15

[atomic abyss]

yat sen is unironically a strong tank if you pair her with another CN unit
prolly a DDG or Harbin

[whole crypt]

unless you're trying to do anything particularly difficult you can just use almost anything anyway

[atomic abyss]

wouldnt be the worst idea

she also has a heal in case her HP gets too low

[coarse heron]

a MT with zombie could actually be really good in W15 too

[rain bobcat]

if it's close to plymouth then yeah

[sharp socket]

what is the chinawall i keep hearing about

[whole crypt]

I unironically think Neptune will be fine in 15 if safe, if lethal then she's probably not your biggest problem

[rain bobcat]

yat ning ping

[atomic abyss]

nep creams plym in terms of tankiness

ply just has WAY WAY more damage

[sweet delta]

I think any average ship is fine in safe

[whole crypt]

zombie main tank sounds bad because it implies you take enough damage for zombie to proc

[sharp socket]

im sorry what

[rain bobcat]

hm, kinda expected that I guess yeah

[late flame]

yatsen + ping hai + ning hai

[coarse heron]

Neptune just takes hits to the face
Plymouth kills the enemies fast enough that you don't need to take as many hits to the face

[atomic abyss]

what vordea said

often times the best offence is the best defence

[sharp socket]

it has enough AA and dps for w15?

[whole crypt]

zombie main tank sounds bad because it implies you take enough damage for zombie to proc

[ancient socket]

Just tested her and honestly she just works, yes.
I guess I won't be recommending Hammann II so much anymore from now on. 👍

[rain bobcat]

hey new dps should be not far behind harbin though yeah?

[whole crypt]

she definitely won't be your AA carry if that's what you're asking

[coarse heron]

it's why Akashi isn't useful for W13 despite having loads of AA
she has 0 surface DPS and more surface DPS is more useful

[atomic abyss]

nep DPS is behind mainz

[sweet delta]

Low HP ships like laffii and zombies also take focused healing away from other ships who may need it more

[atomic abyss]

and mainz is behind harb iirc

[rain bobcat]

bit worse than I thought

[atomic abyss]

yat actually has 2 AA mounts like eld

[coarse heron]

Neptune was my first PR ship because I got enough HMS vanguard before any other PR1 requirement

[atomic abyss]

yat is actually viable as a w15 tank if you proc her skill ofc

[whole crypt]

this is true for many players so I don't see the problem

[atomic abyss]

but that requires you to use another chinese ship.......

[storm heron]

sanrui

[sweet delta]

how do you Neptune before Saint

[atomic abyss]

sanrui is good for fleet tech at least

start with a HMS event

[coarse heron]

I kept getting Hot Maid Ships

my first event was Nagato rerun, actually

well first major event
first event period was Air Raid Drills with Sex

[whole crypt]

HMS is no short of shitty vanguards in early game and you didn't default to Portland/Helena back in the day

[atomic abyss]

there was no guild shop back in the day

so your only way of getting helena outside light spam was 5-1

[coarse heron]

yeah it was just whatever you pulled from gacha and campaign drops

and I just kept getting big tiddy maids

[atomic abyss]

medal shop was also way worse back then

[cobalt rapids]

Not really but u can make alot of stuff work if u carry em hard enough

[storm heron]

so did people focus hms for ches?

[whole crypt]

focus what

[coarse heron]

genuinely FUCK the old medal shop

[atomic abyss]

back in the days of yore

[storm heron]

or just me

[atomic abyss]

we had a lot more HMS events

[coarse heron]

god it was so fucking shit

[rain bobcat]

wdym by focus

[storm heron]

fdg level of fleet tech focus these days

like actively looking for tech

[atomic abyss]

i mean

[whole crypt]

if you 👴 then PR2 and PR3 tech reqs were basically nonexistent

[rain bobcat]

1, most already had the tech needed
2, there's nothing to do when you are vet
3, she's a good ship

[atomic abyss]

in the days of yore

[gusty olive]

HMSSSSSSS

[rain bobcat]

personally I fucking hated chesh for a long time

[atomic abyss]

roon was an UNGODLY pain in the ass to unlock if you started outside a german event

[coarse heron]

and then Divergent Chessboard got war archived

[whole crypt]

Roon wasn't that hard, FdG was

[atomic abyss]

roon req: 7 IB ships
the number of permanent IB ships: 7

and in those days

[whole crypt]

well yeh there was that strech after chessboard I guess

[atomic abyss]

Roon can only be grinded with KMS cruisers

[gusty olive]

Is Nep ironically better than Drake now?

[rain bobcat]

don't remember roon being insanely hard to get points only the grind; fdg was annoying

[coarse heron]

because of that I didn't finish Roon until they changed it to just Vanguard

[whole crypt]

K-class was good enough

[atomic abyss]

so you had to use eugen, hipper, leipzig or the 3 K classes

[coarse heron]

it was shrimply too annoying

[atomic abyss]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
no

nep still lags behind drake in DPS im very sure

[whole crypt]

I won't use both so does that count as "just as bad"

[coarse heron]

Drake is a really good ship
she's just a pain in the ass to develop

[atomic abyss]

nep is tankier ig

[coarse heron]

because she's not worth the effort

[atomic abyss]

bayard is the one that may have powercrept drake lol

[rain bobcat]

i wouldn't say really good

but she's good

[late flame]

god forbid the day a pr1* outperfoms a dr3 ship kek

[whole crypt]

the problem with Drake is she takes too much effort to dev for what she does and devs were too conservative with her kit for a rainbow

[coarse heron]

I'm coping cause I dev30 her before coinable

[atomic abyss]

bayard does beat drake in DPS (on light) and is tankier than her too

like that's just depressing

[cobalt rapids]

Alot of new golds have drake lvl dps

[whole crypt]

that's 4 years of powercreep though

[rain bobcat]

^what ren said

[atomic abyss]

goose we actually happened to test this recently

[gusty olive]

Cant really say short end of the stick for Nep cus... she got actual improvement... unlike most HMS augments lol

[rain bobcat]

drake is a very old ship where devs were pretty conservative with her kit

[hollow gust]

test what? i saw ur test

[atomic abyss]

i didnt do the drake test

dfg did

[hollow gust]

your ships were dong less then my belfast

[whole crypt]

I mean all PR1 aug so far have been great

[atomic abyss]

i dont got ply guns

no shit

[hollow gust]

bel doesnt use plyguns

[atomic abyss]

i dont have tech either

[rain bobcat]

[atomic abyss]

pretty sure my CL FP tech is close to 0

[atomic abyss]

yeah
it is still a MASSIVE improvement for nep

it's just that its not enough to make her relevant

[storm heron]

nep is just too deep in the ocean

[gusty olive]

SHINKAI SHOUJO

[whole crypt]

it's not like Izumo is really relevant either

[cobalt rapids]

Values will stay relatively proportional, some do get skewed depending on gear vs barrage dmg distribution

[atomic abyss]

izumo got a huge buff
and she's now one of the best gold BBs

but the gold BBs are barely relevant

ibuki got the long end of the stick

[whole crypt]

Ibuki is relevant for speedrunning

[rain bobcat]

tbf my mob is hinden ibuki and unzen

[whole crypt]

so what you're telling me is I should level Bayard before she reaches 120 in the dorm

[storm heron]

monarch sanrui aug when

[atomic abyss]

the one that has been REALLY disappointing is halford

like we had little expectations of daisen to begin with

[rain bobcat]

the fact that monarch's fate sim was her blue means aug will be for barrage

[atomic abyss]

but halford couldnt even fulfil the one niche she was supposed to have

[storm heron]

the devs saw the future

[whole crypt]

personally they're all fulfilling their work as tech fodder

[atomic abyss]

well i suppose you could try syncing her barrage with 457s

[cobalt rapids]

Im pretty sure pilica tried that

[sweet delta]

So basically, red skill upgrade: on main gun fire, 70% chance to fire barrage. Doubles the healing from her blue skill.

[rain bobcat]

360 plates vs 1080

[gusty olive]

Halford's niche is those planes that gives dmg increase rite?

[atomic abyss]

nope

[storm heron]

noo what is this kgv ahh aug

[atomic abyss]

the planes are the only thing saving her from irrelevancy tho yes

cos they do pump up her damage

[fallow sedge]

Best heavy cruise dmg dealer?

[atomic abyss]

hindenburg and unzen

[rain bobcat]

hinden unzen

[atomic abyss]

they are also the best vanguard DMGers period

[rain bobcat]

does straight torp shima not beat hinden?

[sharp socket]

even against light?

[rain bobcat]

hinden can just use drake gun and unzen gun

[storm heron]

unzen can light torps

[atomic abyss]

shima would beat hinden on heavy yes
gl with unzen tho

[hollow gust]

light torps sucks ass

[storm heron]

how's unzen light torp vs plymouth or ddg?

[atomic abyss]

shima i think can beat unzen but unzen is just way more consistent

[rain bobcat]

yeah yeah that's what I meant

[whole crypt]

except Shimakaze wouldn't even beat Hindenburg reliably

[rain bobcat]

shima is inconsistent but she can beat either

[atomic abyss]

Every 10s: fires a special barrage (DMG is based on the skill's level) and becomes Shrouded for 5s (while Shrouded, this ship takes 10.0% less DMG; upon becoming Shrouded for the 3rd time, she also restores 10.0% of her max HP). Enemies hit by this barrage become Exposed for 10s; Exposed enemies take 18.0% increased DMG from your Flagship if she is a BB, BC, or BBV.

When the battle starts, if this ship has Eagle Union gear equipped: increases this ship's AVI by 20.0%. Every 15s: targets a random enemy (humanoid enemies are prioritized) and decreases that enemy's EVA by 10.0% for 6s and launches a Lv.10 seaplane attack (DMG is based on the skill's level). If this seaplane hits the random enemy targeted by this skill: increases that enemy's cannon DMG taken by 8.0% for 6s.

[sweet delta]

Ranger can beat Amagi(CV)

[atomic abyss]

halford's skill doesnt sound bad on paper in comparison to ply

[whole crypt]

Shimakaze isn't beating Unzen against heavy

[atomic abyss]

until you actually TRY to use it

then you'll be like

[gusty olive]

In an hms mob fleet...

Should I replace Drek with Nep?

[storm heron]

6+15k sync lol

[whole crypt]

why not both

[atomic abyss]

drake still deals more

[rain bobcat]

mandatory faction fleet bad disclaimer

[atomic abyss]

im guessing ply scylla drake

[rain bobcat]

but I would keep drake

[sweet delta]

Mob fleet for what

[gusty olive]

Already aware, aint the first time I asked about it lol (I do have a more serious fleets)

[atomic abyss]

w15

[whole crypt]

just use CVs and Sirius is even better

[atomic abyss]

i mean surely you can mono HMS w15 anyways

uni + percy

[sweet delta]

Yeah surely some youtuber has done it

[atomic abyss]

have you?

[frank pulsar]

suchi has done that

[sweet delta]

No, I used USS boss fleet

[frank pulsar]

close enough

[late flame]

azur lane best faction .nods to self.

[storm heron]

is other mono other than ib possible?

[atomic abyss]

Sakura has healers so yes

[whole crypt]

if anything KMS is the hardest to mono

[sweet delta]

Hardest of the four main

[atomic abyss]

hardest that is still possible

[gusty olive]

this is alright right?

[atomic abyss]

pastas and baguettes dont have enough carriers to go around without running dupes

[storm heron]

pizzas and croissants?

[sharp socket]

out of enty, indep, haku, shinano oathed, and cvmagi which 2 should accompany soyuz as my w15 boss backline

[hollow gust]

most stuff clears, its whatever

[storm heron]

indep cvmagi works for me

[sweet delta]

Shinano amagi to start

[whole crypt]

[gusty olive]

2 is BB Boss
3 is CV
4 Is Whatever
1 is HMS

[sweet delta]

Flexing that awful JP font

[storm heron]

EN players best UI

[whole crypt]

honestly I have no idea why they changed the font

[hollow gust]

[late flame]

i should switch back to anti-light cv fleet4 but lazy

[wanton willow]

should i pull on current banner or can i easily wait for to love-ru collab?
i've just cameback to game after 2 years upon hearing about to love-ru
I really want ulrich von hutten but i am only at 58/400

[whole crypt]

my Nakhimov isn't 30 yet

[late flame]

wait next week pull musashi

[sweet delta]

Out of fairness to EN who had to deal with cut off text and names for 6 years

[whole crypt]

don't pull for perma URs

[storm heron]

my Nakhimov isn't 125 yet

[hollow gust]

[whole crypt]

still d27 because gear focus

[rose cosmos]

When will they rerun laffey 2

[hollow gust]

how much prints are u even at for la-9

[rose cosmos]

[storm heron]

I switched to pr6 already for kearsoup

[late flame]

tbh i didnt see the need to 125 cat yet (dev29) since i was getting one la9 first

[whole crypt]

40

[storm heron]

in lafffey 2 years

[atomic abyss]

at least 2 years after the original run in Dec 2023

[hollow gust]

so 90/50, not that bad

a bit slow ngl

[whole crypt]

second copy is about a week slower

[hollow gust]

most of the tryhards are done with 2

[whole crypt]

I got like 0 the last few days

[coarse heron]

at Safe enemy ships lose effective levels equal to how many Threat Levels I removed, right? Did I remember that correctly?

[whole crypt]

2 copies now is kind of 🎲, it's possible but I wouldn't say most tryhards are there

[sweet delta]

Some lucky casuals are there

[whole crypt]

but yeh my second copy is coming in significantly slower

[coarse heron]

Sometimes someone just gets blessed by Tzeentch and they get a tons of BPs quickly

[muted ember]

how good is the new Neptune Augment?

[coarse heron]

It makes her incredibly tanky but she's still just Neptune

[sweet delta]

The augment is insane, the augmented ship is good

[late flame]

good yes godly no

[sweet delta]

~~Neptune isn't a god? ~~

[late flame]

give her nibelung valesti then maybe

[sweet delta]

On a samscale she would be great

[muted ember]

any ships I need from this?(I got Warsprite,Hood,the Bismarck sisters,and Nagato already from this)

[cobalt rapids]

Remaining tech like mikasa

[muted ember]

tbh,I need more KMS techs-

but more IJN Techs won't hurt

[cobalt rapids]

Then kms tech like tirp or w.o is there

[atomic abyss]

derp and biscuit

[whole crypt]

buy Mikasa for Mikasa gun

[muted ember]

what's W.O

[late flame]

oops i scrapped that gun

[atomic abyss]

who else

[muted ember]

who-

[late flame]

whoever else?

[atomic abyss]

tirpitz and bismarck

[hollow gust]

blondie was done with 2 la-9s by octuber lmao

[muted ember]

got those 2 so ig Mikasa it is

[whole crypt]

dafuq my sub's server is subs for medal this month

[atomic abyss]

there is a train of thought that derp with aug is better than biscuit

[whole crypt]

[coarse heron]

ah yes the runes of the moon

[spring bolt]

kinda weird if you still need ib tech when you have both bis and tirp tho... just remember to mlb them

[late flame]

subs x 2 yikes

[muted ember]

how good is Kitakaze

[late flame]

powercrept

[coarse heron]

Imagine if Subs had more than just 96

[spring bolt]

mid

[whole crypt]

so I can buy a u96 and a u96 which I already have

[atomic abyss]

she's good, greatly powercrept by non PR DDs tho

[coarse heron]

effectively like a Purin for just 96

[whole crypt]

more like 2 bulins

[coarse heron]

have too much oil so I'm getting 14-4 to safe so I can farm New Orleans

[whole crypt]

but my sub account is using fishpack

[late flame]

would
#gameplay-help message

[muted ember]

from the looks of it most of the good Shipyard ships are in PR4

[coarse heron]

PR4 is definitely above average

[late flame]

with the probable exception of MP since there's simply waaaay too many great BBs out there

[hollow gust]

i fully ditched agir and haku from all my fleets

[spring bolt]

haku is still in best fleet for current meta

[hollow gust]

alsace bettter , slightly more consistent

[late flame]

i replaced haku with amagi (cv)

[spring bolt]

no according to multiple tester and my own tests

[hollow gust]

i did each fleet for 2+ weeks, alsace slightly edges out

[muted ember]

is it worth it to build Izumo with Musashi coming in 5 days

[spring bolt]

more like you guys put mog in tank and caused the unnecessary inconsistency

[hollow gust]

Mog tank is perfectly fine when you +13 auxes

[whole crypt]

what's wrong with Hakuryuu and Amagi CV

[spring bolt]

you can but you probably won't use her a lot, and since you need ib tech, probably go with roon

[hollow gust]

My Alsace over the span of like 2 weeks has like a 98% oneshot rate , more then enough

[muted ember]

the only KMS ship I can use to grind Roon rn is Nimi

I do have Prinz Eugen but she's like lvl 21

[whole crypt]

100% after barrage and guaranteed 75pt is fair game for me but triple IJN CV feels >90% anyway

[spring bolt]

you probably have the 3 white ib cls but maybe you retired them, you can use them to help the grind, altho it will not be very pleasant

[cursive lark]

Hi, I just got Taskhent, is she good?

I heard she can be used for Nakhimov

[atomic abyss]

one of the strongest DDs in the game on the DPS front with her aug
she can be used as the russian slower for nakh yes

[cursive lark]

I see, I probably will raise her then, since I have no other option right now besides Soyuz to enable Nakhimov

[elfin hollow]

Wait, Tashkent has an aug?

[atomic abyss]

for quite a few weeks already

it removes her russian gun restriction and doubles her fairy time

[plain saffron]

Meta or META, and can i have the fleet

I'm still doing 700k dmg

[atomic abyss]

ama haku nano
eld kaza unzen

[plain saffron]

Need gear

[storm heron]

can confirm, 100% current showdown and 1.3m E(X) for assist

Your best converging, sync with flagship since eld slow based on flagship
unzen and kaza can run all OxTorps

And ofc eld double survivability

[lofty zodiac]

Can i select fs5 pr ship for a catch up ?

[storm heron]

yes you can select a finished ship

[lofty zodiac]

Thx

[valid spoke]

What blueprints should I research after completing pr4 and getting two tenrais

[storm heron]

How's avp and haku? all fs5?

[valid spoke]

Yh I’m completely done with pr4 don’t plan on getting Marco

[storm heron]

nice, you can start working on pr5 then

[valid spoke]

But the thing is I have ply dev30

[storm heron]

[valid spoke]

Should I just skip it and move on to 6 or is 7 better

[exotic wren]

Brest good

[storm heron]

Pr 7 is definitely better than pr6, but idk if you should grab Brest

[exotic wren]

How many tanks do you have

[storm heron]

how's brest and plygun progress?

[valid spoke]

I already have Brest just not dev30

[valid spoke]

Already have the gun

[storm heron]

you should aim for 2 guns just like the tenrai

[valid spoke]

Good amount

I have anchor and azuma

[storm heron]

how far is your brest from d30?

[valid spoke]

205 print

[exotic wren]

No Agir?

[storm heron]

agir is important too

[valid spoke]

Oh and her my bad

[exotic wren]

At least get Brest to D30 first before going to pr7

[storm heron]

yeah 205 prints too far

[valid spoke]

But the thing is do I need her and would she bring more value than getting the ships on pr7 to dev 30

[storm heron]

does anyone know which event start giving out pr and dr 6 bps?

[exotic wren]

You might even be able to get another ply gun while focusing on pr5

[atomic abyss]

Having a dev 30 Brest would be more valuable than leaving PR5 halfway and starting PR7 now

[storm heron]

what u need for pr7 is the dr and the la-9

so it's like forever

[valid spoke]

I have both developed already

[atomic abyss]

Developed but not dev 30

So still pointless

[valid spoke]

True

[atomic abyss]

207 BPs won't take as long as it would for 500 rainbows each

Especially if you already dev 30 the other PR5 ships

[storm heron]

I would just do CDC and keep research focus on pr5, minmaxing to finish 2nd plygun and brest

[valid spoke]

What’s cdc?

[late flame]

combat data collection

[atomic abyss]

The exp collection portion of unlocking a PR

[valid spoke]

How about pr6 I have hiden and shima dev30 but not kearsarge

[atomic abyss]

Even lower priority

Kears and Hinden are both relatively niche for DRs

I would go to complete kears after finishing Brest

[storm heron]

brest is higher prio because it sounds like you don't have guam and laff2, which mean unless you wanna stay w12 for the next 2 years, you should raise brest the mob tank

[valid spoke]

Would I need her in 14 or 15

[exotic wren]

W13 is doable with Agir and Ancho tho you'll need good gears

You'll have trouble on 14 ngl

[storm heron]

She will make life much easier with the heals

[valid spoke]

Finished it just haven’t removed the lethal warning yet

[atomic abyss]

This ^

[exotic wren]

haven't played in a month, what's lethal warning again?

[atomic abyss]

If you don't have Guam and Laff2
It's hard to avoid using Brest when pushing content

[atomic abyss]

When you first clear a map, difficulty is at lethal with no damage reduction

[exotic wren]

Is that the thing where you need x amount of clears to remove?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[valid spoke]

So after getting Brest dev30 and getting 2nd ply gun I would be done with pr5 right

Harbin has enough prints so I wouldn’t need to research prints for her

[exotic wren]

Oh ye, Yat Sen's special aux gear, the painting thingy, is it in the shop yet?

[valid spoke]

Thank you guys for everything

[storm heron]

ah yea that umbrella

[exotic wren]

Umbrella?

No the painting thing, the circular white and red whatchamacallit

[wind hazel]

deez

[exotic wren]

Ya

[wind hazel]

still event locked i believe

[exotic wren]

Oh das an umbrella alright

Fuq

[atomic abyss]

5%
Of Yat Sen HP

Well ig it's a 550 HP aux regardless but
You're losing a toolbox for that

[exotic wren]

Ya but it's for 30secs, which used to be how much time it took my mob fleet to clear each node

I miss my account

[wind hazel]

synergize with the skill too, but idk if the trade off is important or not for an aux

[storm heron]

welp unfortunate yat sen you have

[atomic abyss]

I mean

[exotic wren]

It made the wall of china even more stonks

[wind hazel]

do people use rudder+this aux? or still rudder toolbox

[storm heron]

all yoir other

[atomic abyss]

Yat with that aux has about 2700 HP

5% of that is 135HP

[storm heron]

should still be 5% ehp per mob sortir I guess

[atomic abyss]

And the shield will be consumed before the high eva rate of Yat even comes into play

[storm heron]

wait shield does not evade?

[exotic wren]

An shan is only available on LnY and Tai's retro still event locked right?

[wind hazel]

ye

[atomic abyss]

Oh wait barrier not shield

[wind hazel]

good news is that CNY is coming soon

[storm heron]

only cc available

[atomic abyss]

Barriers shd follow evade, shields don't

[storm heron]

so like lusty is a shield, it does not evade?

[atomic abyss]

Lusty is barrier

[exotic wren]

It evades, lusty is barrier as well

[atomic abyss]

Shields are like, think Eugen or Roon

[storm heron]

oh that rotating zoltrak shields

[atomic abyss]

But 135 isn't a lot

That's basically 1 hit

[storm heron]

a chance of 1 hit though

[atomic abyss]

Why do you think their SD for effective eHP is so high

[exotic wren]

Idk, for some reason, my china wall survived with that on strongholds and died without

[dreamy cave]

@sweet delta @viscid swift @cobalt rapids We did it reddit, ty so much for your help

[exotic wren]

SD?

[storm heron]

because eva rate a lot of variance?

[atomic abyss]

Standard deviation

[atomic abyss]

If that 1 item decides if your chinawall survives
Your entire fleet has a huge issue lol

[storm heron]

I see, so that's why the random chance is higher that the hp increase probably doesn't make much difference

[exotic wren]

It was standard Fdg, Uni, Indep, Yat, CC, AS

[atomic abyss]

Iirc, Yat peaks at about 170-180% ehp of port kai?

And the SD is close to 80%

[atomic abyss]

Yeah that'll definitely have some issues with anything remotely armoured

[exotic wren]

Well I didn't use it to touch anything big, just the mobs, tho they used to die randomly so I guess that's just rng

Tbf all of my fleets used to die randomly

[atomic abyss]

Consider dropping AS for Harbin

[storm heron]

yeah yatsen Expected ehp is 170%, with 80% 3std

[atomic abyss]

Harbin should help a lot

[exotic wren]

Nah that fleet is gone

As well as the account

[atomic abyss]

Do I want to ask what happened

[exotic wren]

Phone stolen, linked accounts on AL, Nikke, AK and BA gone

[atomic abyss]

[storm heron]

my condolences

[daring osprey]

When does coin up refresh?

[tame jungle]

4h after daily reset for some reason

[gilded carbon]

How well would Marco Polo Work as a replacement for Hood with her unique Augment? For Mobbing

[atomic abyss]

Better, but not by much

At that point might as well use FdG

[gilded carbon]

Marco is lvl 100 and Fate Sim 30, FdG is not even max upgraded, im afraid

[gilded carbon]

otherwise i would have considered her

[atomic abyss]

Why isn't she max upgrade tho

Just need coins to max her

Ya know, same as marco

[gilded carbon]

i know, but im low on coins :(

[atomic abyss]

Then farm the coins in w12

[gilded carbon]

i havent been able to beat W10 yet sighs

likely, i need to lvl some gear and ships to beat W10-3

[atomic abyss]

If that's the case

I don't think swapping to marco will solve your problems

You shd use Marco on Boss and Hood on mob

[rapid grail]

just some level difference should do it

as well as semi decent gears at +10 or even +6

[plain saffron]

you can just contact customer services...

[exotic wren]

Needs proof of ownership of bound account

Current bound account

[gilded carbon]

i need better gear in general as i try to lvl it to +6 at minimum

but the peices themselfes arent too great

[plain saffron]

then tell them old account email and say that you lost it

[exotic wren]

Oh

i thought it's a bot

[tulip thorn]

What are the best 3 boss fleets in Opsi?

[forest palm]

it's multiple choice there's no singular fleet(s), if it's UR it'll go far

[turbid shell]

T1 12-Pounder Long Gun is better than T1 Old Heavy Cannon?

[vagrant harness]

Chronologically who is next ur after ulrich? And after that?

[eternal basalt]

Vanguard

[frank pulsar]

after vanguard should be musashi

and musashi is about to rerun next week

[vagrant harness]

I see. The sudden influx of urs has left me ur bulin starved. I still have like 6 ur all 3* lmao

[frank pulsar]

not all ur are worth mlb nowadays since theres so many ur
like uvh for example

if you play for long enough youll eventually mlb all of them though

[forest palm]

well...the next 5(?) events will potentially be URs

[vagrant harness]

Like, consecutively?

[eternal basalt]

No, Blücher next

[frank pulsar]

to love ru collab shld be this month, shouldnt be consecutively
that said idk about next year but theres a new ur expected at the end of year

[forest palm]

they'll probably dump Convergence

[eternal basalt]

They mean reruns not new

[forest palm]

I meant new, and rerun

also perm UR are on the table too

[vagrant harness]

Yea, im also patiently doing pr6, god i hope they release catchup soon 😭😭

[frank pulsar]

i dont keep track of rerun so i have no opinion
i only follow game news when it comes to reruns

[frank pulsar]

youve finished the earlier seasons like pr4 and 5?

[forest palm]

@eternal basalt there was zero reason to skip Convergence for Musashi's event, which makes it look like that event is not going to see the light of day again

[vagrant harness]

Yep, i also have all ur, typical azur lane player

[eternal basalt]

To keep URs from piling up, you mean, yes there was

[forest palm]

nah

[vagrant harness]

The pr grind is the most grueling tho, i still need to unlock all pr7 after. Cant catch a break

[forest palm]

it can take about 4 months to finish a season, so you can definitely catch up

[vagrant harness]

So not a lot of players rn still dont have dev30 kear or hinden?

[frank pulsar]

if youve reached pr6 youre prob top 20%-10% player

[eternal basalt]

You can start pr6 and do NONE of the others (do not recommend)

[vagrant harness]

Whats funny is i started late on the pr grind, so when i was finishing up pr4, pr5 just came out, so on so forth. Rn my kear and hinden is both just dev19, still a long way to gooo unless catchup event comes but i dont think it will anytime soon? Copium

[wind hazel]

just be diligent with your research academy, that's it

[naive cliff]

Is there any working codes rn?

[wind hazel]

what code

[shell willow]

its not the type of game

[naive cliff]

6 digits

[eternal basalt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460645783021289472/1303735831495835699/image.png?ex=673021dc&is=672ed05c&hm=edb8ced1dc788bb025eb661a3cd2062f4b5d82204792cf66f4540a12fc59971e&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=810&height=538&
We all speculated Blücher would be skipped to prevent 3 UR in a row rerun

[forest palm]

meanwhile on the very thing you posted

[eternal basalt]

It's usermade

And pretty small = ENs anni first event

[forest palm]

that's ass backwards and you know it

[viscid swift]

Counterpoint, Impero did rerun

[forest palm]

which had a shop

[eternal basalt]

This has a shop

[viscid swift]

And so did Operation Convergence

[forest palm]

ok, but Convergence has less ships

[plain saffron]

the game doesn't really use code. the reward from stream and stuff goes directly into your mail
the only time they use code are for skins from anime bluray and something

[viscid swift]

Formidable was not a new ship

[eternal basalt]

Formidable?

[viscid swift]

Bit of a mystery why she was included at all tbh

[plain saffron]

HMS needs an event

[eternal basalt]

Watch them get 2 URs in dec

[rose cosmos]

Is building haku still worth it if I already have both shinano and amagi?

[atomic abyss]

Yes absolutely

[bright tusk]

Is aquila (2 ftr) better than zuihou for w15 mob healer?

[atomic abyss]

Absolutely

2 fighter literally means she has better AA too

[soft raft]

Zuihou is basically a poor man's Aquila/Volga

[rose cosmos]

Zuihou is free though

[viscid swift]

was free

[rose cosmos]

ya

[flat lantern]

Any of the girls in the merit shop worth buying more than the gold bullin to limit break any good SR girls I have? I've got Fargo, Enty, Sandy, Nagato, Howe and KGV waiting for stars

[viscid swift]

not really

[eternal basalt]

Albacore for fish-sub-fleet

[viscid swift]

Albacore you mean

[flat lantern]

Fish sub fleet?

[soft raft]

American sub comp
Since they named their subs after fish so hence "Fishpack"

[tame jungle]

🐟

[flat lantern]

Thanks! I'll have to learn about that later!

[eager mulch]

[opaque gate]

who should i use to get data for fdg?

[forest palm]

Zep, Bismarck, Peter would be the simplest

[opaque gate]

ok thanks, what chapter should i level them where i wont need healer?

[viscid swift]

w12

[forest palm]

this should be able to do 12-1 with the right gear

[opaque gate]

ok thanks

should i make a separate boss fleet?

[sweet delta]

Of course

[opaque gate]

ok thanks

[glass basin]

so this one is the best right

[sweet delta]

Usually the best gold

[glass basin]

so, what's like the second best while I wait for gear fragments

[sweet delta]

G7e

[glass basin]

heard the fragments only drops on weekly
man it's so slow

[sweet delta]

You don't need to craft g7e in gear lab either, just wait for them from weekly

[glass basin]

yeah maybe I'll just wait for both in weeklies

also this one is...solid right

[sweet delta]

This is the best torp for playing the weekly itself, and it's good enough while waiting for g7e and bidder

[ionic cliff]

Can someone help me with fleets for campaign and opsi pls?

[soft dagger]

sure, in a thread

[dim laurel]

For FR of a weapon is lower or higher a faster fire rate?

[plain saffron]

lower

[eager mulch]

@slow fox help

[dim laurel]

ok ty

[opaque gate]

flapjack>sea hornet?

[weary gust]

Flapjack is best 1000lb fighter in general. Only time you'd use a different 1000lb fighter is for timing adjust or skill requirement.

Or if you're seriously resource limited.

[plain saffron]

in general isn't there no diff at all

[tame jungle]

For surface damage it doesn’t matter

[plain saffron]

same exact dmg

*general assuming no relevant AA needed

[nova lichen]

Is this good for a boss fleet?

[weary gust]

Move NJ to center, and boss fleet for what, campaign?

[tame jungle]

Shinano not MLB

[nova lichen]

Ye

[eager mulch]

what campaign

[nova lichen]

I dont actually know just general?

[little tree]

Nano Needs MLB ~~ and levels~~

[nova lichen]

Whats mlb?

[weary gust]

W1-w10 you can typically one fleet, w11-12 you start building 2nd fleet, w13 onward needs specific comps.

[weary gust]

The number of stars being maxed on the ship. You can limit break each ship three times, and doing so increases their stats and more importantly their gun/plane mounts. Your Shinano is missing most of her damage.

[nova lichen]

Is this good for mob?

[weary gust]

Hipper is meh, but otherwise that's good (assuming gear is good).

[vital meadow]

Back playing after few years HELP

[fallen verge]

new player, are there any upcoming events that is should take note of?

[weary gust]

In 4 days Musashi rerun.

[tame jungle]

Musashi rerun next week

[jaunty vault]

Musashi rerun

[viscid swift]

To Love Ru Darkness collab the week after

[novel condor]

Time to save coobs then

[sweet delta]

Why do people think Albion is better than toolkit for Plymouth

[rancid mural]

If I add muashi and Anchorage once she's high for fancy is that "good enough" for a second fleet?

[weary gust]

Assuming you mlb everyone. Houshou meta could be replaced too.

[rancid mural]

Yea I just have literally nothing else lol, guess I hope I get something when rolling

[weary gust]

You don't have independence or saratoga? Idk who is in your first fleet either.

[rancid mural]

I don't have independence

[weary gust]

Independence would be a good one to grab then, can get her from shop.

[rancid mural]

The monthly one?

[tame jungle]

coredata

[weary gust]

core data

[rancid mural]

Thanks something to work towards

[tame jungle]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[tame jungle]

make sure you get your shells first

[rancid mural]

Yea

[tame jungle]

3 sets?

[rancid mural]

1

Should I get 3 sets of shells then independently

Or get indepence and then 2 more sets

[tame jungle]

hold on let me check your thread to see what bbs you got

[sweet delta]

3 white and 2 black in total

Are you done retrofitting unicorn, Portland, laffey, and Saratoga?

[rancid mural]

I didn't retro laffey yet

[tame jungle]

do new players still get nelson from newbie rewards or smth

or am i confusing it with something else

[rancid mural]

Yea

Well know what to go forward with, thanks

[tame jungle]

i'd argue for replacing ulrich with nelson, working on 2nd set of shells. depends on how easy it'll be for you to get the retrofit materials though

[rancid mural]

Battleship? Pretty easy havnt done any nodes for that yet

Lotta 3* gold rewards

[tame jungle]

it's 13 blue 15 purple and 10 gold retro mats + 70 purple auxiliary plates (and 26k coin)

in exchange you get a very solid battleship

[sweet delta]

I'd definitely drop Ulrich considering the lack of bulins and the impending arrival of Musashi and a later new UR

[tame jungle]

• doesn't require you to invest hella bulins or pump pity dupes into her

[slow fox]

Am I answering this question for you, or for ECTL?

[sweet delta]

For me

And the answer is 5 toolbox procs assuming typical new META boss stats and no external healing

But I'll take the toolkits consistency even if it only heals 4 times

MeGPT unspotted

[undone plover]

How does kearsarge rank vs the top 5 BB in a triple BB fleet

[sweet delta]

maybe top4-6 depending on armor

and ignoring battle mechanics that favor an airstrike

*assuming hvarcat and la9

[undone plover]

And the tldr on kear usage is
In a BB fleet sync her main gun and make her airstrike land before shells

In a CV fleet sync her planes and make her guns land before planes?

[sweet delta]

In a BB fleet sync her main gun and make her airstrike land before shells

In a CV fleet make her guns land before planes

[slow fox]

👍

[sweet delta]

in a CV fleet sync her gun with CV freeze, and make her planes land before everything

[undone plover]

So kear planes > kear gun > other planes?

Sounds easier said then done

[sweet delta]

kear planes happens to be first because she's using hvarcat or la9 for pure damamge

[undone plover]

Makes sense

[sweet delta]

for the gun just use typical soyuz gun or mk7 and it should sync with CVs for a decent number of salvos because CV planes have travel time

[reef flume]

Who has higher priority Kear or Plymouth?

[sweet delta]

if you have about equal numbers of blueprints for each, then Plymouth first

[reef flume]

I do not

I mean it's not like I am planning to do them anytime soon

But I wanted to know which one has higher prio so I can focus on that one later on

Thx for the answer tho

[undone plover]

usually u focus a whole season not ship
so do pr5 > pr6/pr7
some ppl might suggest skipping 6 for now unless u really like them

[reef flume]

Alr

[sweet delta]

it's easier for new OP ships to powercreep hindenburg than it is to powercreep plymouth

[forest palm]

4 > 5 > 7 > 6 is the way to go

Kears, and Hinden for as strong as they are are very, "optional", Shimanto is the only real argument for PR6, and the gear is pretty weak

[undone plover]

yeah and with pr6 getting catchup soonish shimanto is an easy dev30 with 0 focus

[forest palm]

mhm

[reef flume]

Once PR6 gets catchup I'll probably work on her

Really need her (Shimanto)

[tulip thorn]

Should i +13 another Champy gun or +13 a Flandre gun?

[reef flume]

Champy

[sweet delta]

Flandre

[upbeat wagon]

Where could I get t3 retrofit blueprints, map just doesnt seem to drop them

[sweet delta]

guild shop RNG or map drop RNG

[tulip thorn]

Fine ill do both.....

[sweet delta]

why

[tulip thorn]

One said Champy and another one said Flandre :c

Idk who to listen to

[sweet delta]

it's a miniscule difference even if you use the wrong one, but Flandre gun will be better by more when it is better

[reef flume]

Listen Sushi he is more Expert than I am

[tulip thorn]

Okidoki

Last thing and im done i promise
How many types of conv tb there are since you said each?

[tulip thorn]

Those 4 are all converging?

So the 2 on the top are one type and the 2 at the bottom another type?

[forest palm]

Umi listed them in the first sentence

[sweet delta]

they are all converging just with different damage and reload

[tulip thorn]

Ohhhhhh so i have to do 2/3 +13 for each 4 of the converging tb

[forest palm]

I wouldn't really recommend that...just +13 depending on what you're using

[sweet delta]

i would do 1-2 until some homework you're trying to copy has 2 or 3 of one TB

[tulip thorn]

I dont remember this.......wtf....

[blazing shale]

They also said plane dmg doesnt matter so just sync them

Basically the same dmg for all planes

[atomic abyss]

v slightly diff dmg for v slightly diff rld times

except that v slightly diff rld time is super useful

[blazing shale]

Rld is not slightly if sync

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[little geyser]

Should I max lvl sandy before retrofitting her?

[atomic abyss]

You only need her to be level 95 to max retro her iirc

[little geyser]

Yeah but I heard ur ships take more exp to get to max lvl so I was wondering if it was worth it to just max lvl her while she is ssr

[atomic abyss]

Uh what

That's dependent on base rarity

[little geyser]

Ooooooooh I see

[atomic abyss]

And to be clear, only base rainbows have different exp requirements

[little geyser]

Nevermind then thank you so much for clearing that up

[atomic abyss]

So she doesn't need less exp before retro yeah

[little geyser]

Thank you that would have been such a pain

[glad folio]

are these worth it or any of the return packs?

[weary gust]

Might as well grab the one that costs coins.

[sweet delta]

if Cavalla angles her barrage downward, does any other USS sub angle her barrage upward?

[polar venture]

I've got alsace, FDG, vanguard, soyuz, new jersey, and plan to pull for musashi.
Can I use all these units?

[eager mulch]

nothing stopping you from doing so

[atomic abyss]

You could but you probably won't

Musashi is the best for w15 mob
FdG for w14 mob

Alsace Vanny Soyuz will likely be what you're using for BB boss fleet in opsi till you get Bis2

NJ is uh lol in this case

She's fine as a boss BB in campaign but you arguably have better

[stark quiver]

nj xfleet

[vale spindle]

don't think so lol
product of her time

[sinful elk]

Chat is Brest high priority needed

[atomic abyss]

not very high at least

but she is recommended to go for after you're done with fdg, pr4 and ply

she's gonna be one of your best mob tank options for w15 if you lack guam and laff2

[fresh briar]

Best tank in the game and best none tank for late game

Also is Prinz Eugen good for late game

[atomic abyss]

eugen is shit for late game

[fresh briar]

Roon?

[atomic abyss]

the best tanks are napoli and agir
with anchorage being the most accesible yet not being far behind them

[stark quiver]

not that good either
good for IB tech tho

[rapid grail]

if you want to clear hardest campaign content, yes

otherwise plymouth and spamming ply guns has higher prio than her and rest of PR5, in fact

[atomic abyss]

roon is a stepping stone to unlock the superior agir

[atomic abyss]

brest and guam are also excellent tanks

[sinful elk]

Hell yeah

[fresh briar]

Any recommendations for late game

[sinful elk]

Im developing them at the same time, ply is dev 29 rn

[atomic abyss]

late game is a pipe dream

you're barely in mid game right now

for a start you can drop amagi and shinano since they're not max limit broken

[rapid grail]

what would help for now are 2 to 4 entire fleets of lvl 120+ ships

For Operation Siren and W12 clears

[fresh briar]

I'm currently at 12-1 💀

[atomic abyss]

if anything

the prio is to stop at 12-1

[rapid grail]

You can then farm a lot.

Stay for 12-1 for a while, then get to 12-4 for the extra coin

[sinful elk]

I think late game means w14 afterward

[atomic abyss]

raise good ships, start doing research

w14/15 is end game AL

[fresh briar]

What ship should I use then

Best late game ships if I reach w14?

[atomic abyss]

firstly regarding these
do not partially limit break your URs
either you go all in or none at all - theyre shit otherwise

so your next 2 UR bulins go to amagi

secondly

forget w14

[fresh briar]

Bomboclat

[atomic abyss]

your prio is to camp in w12
get exp
get gear

cos im willing to bet the gear is absolutely atrocious

you dont even have the AA for w13 anyways

for a start

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research this

start doing your research academy ships

[rapid grail]

All the perma URs are, bonus points to Shinano and NJ for being so flexible

For now, build up your account first. Get purins/bulins, stockpile up on materials from shop, missions, commissions... Farm gear, farm purple and gold plates, Try out OpSi.

Lot of stuff to do but it's all going to be in the name of improvement. This mindset and dedication will get you far into the game

[atomic abyss]

secondly, prioritise enterprise and unicorn to be levelled

you can forget anything after w12 without unicorn in particular

[fresh briar]

Last question should I get Eldridge

[atomic abyss]

from the merit shop? if you have her retrofit item, sure

[fresh briar]

Yeah on merit

[atomic abyss]

i think you should have it seeing as you were around for fargo event

[fresh briar]

Oh

[sweet delta]

you should have it, but do you have it?

[fresh briar]

I have no idea if Fargo is good

[stark quiver]

shes ok

[atomic abyss]

compared to the other ships you have raised

shes one of the better ones

[sweet delta]

a drake slightdowngrade like most new gold event ships these days

[fresh briar]

Then ill get Eldridge

[atomic abyss]

you didnt answer the question tho

[keen sable]

don't use non-mlb ships is my recommendation

[atomic abyss]

do you have her retro item

[chrome fiber]

Is it recommended to spend guild coin and that pvp currency too buy new ship's from shops to get tech point?

[sweet delta]

not the 2000 guild coin ships

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Voltage_Rising

do you have this though

if you dont have the item from this event, forget eldridge

[chrome fiber]

ah btw is getting Eldridge recommend

[sweet delta]

[atomic abyss]

^

[sweet delta]

Eldridge (Retrofit) is one of the best vanguard ships

[chrome fiber]

If i have? is it worth

[stark quiver]

very much

[atomic abyss]

yes it is worth if you have this

[chrome fiber]

[atomic abyss]

it is rather expensive

[chrome fiber]

Alraighty

[atomic abyss]

so do prioritise unicorn's retro if you havent

[chrome fiber]

I have retro everyone . So perfect

[rapid grail]

Congrats for bagging retrofit item on first run. Enjoy your busted retrofit

[fresh briar]

Meh I forget Eldridge so yeah I'll retrofit The old girl

[keen sable]

retro everyone or retro who you use?

[barren tapir]

you need everyone for 100% collection

[chrome fiber]

Who i use

[fresh briar]

Should I retrofit warspite

[viscid swift]

no

[atomic abyss]

absolutely not

[storm heron]

collection tier

[fresh briar]

Ehhhh

[chrome fiber]

XD.

[storm heron]

which is like second last priority

[barren tapir]

collection and extremely expensive at that

[atomic abyss]

instead, retrofit nelson

[fresh briar]

Ight

[atomic abyss]

who is far better

also max limit break that hiei meta

[barren tapir]

nelson !

[fresh briar]

Brb imma smack my Trainor

[chrome fiber]

Who can I replace with Eldridge?

[sweet delta]

literally anyone, but saint should go first

[chrome fiber]

Alriaghtttt

[keen sable]

everyone except sandy and maybe helena

i would get rid of port first

[storm heron]

there are 6 ships that eldrige can't replace at all

[chrome fiber]

I meant who should i replace with first in vanguard

[rapid grail]

how 2 get new orleans?

[sweet delta]

/wiki new orlean

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/New_Orleans
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/New_Orleans/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/New_Orleans/Gallery

Nov 9, 2024, 11:24 PM

[viscid swift]

grind 14-4

[fresh briar]

Does queen Elizabeth good or mid

[stark quiver]

bad

[barren tapir]

she wishes she was mid

[sweet delta]

she's really good in an HMS fleet. An HMS fleet is bad.

[keen sable]

the average of good and bad is mid...

[tame jungle]

Good is mid and great is good

[storm heron]

bad is trash and mid is bad

[sweet delta]

if good is 1, mid is 0, and bad is -1, then the geometric mean of good and bad is bad

actually no

[storm heron]

but the quadratic mean is above mid

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[queen jackal]

bf109g or pancake on avp

[forest palm]

depends

[queen jackal]

idk where medium enemies are abundant

hows it compare to pancake vs light

[stark quiver]

109g better in both light and medium

[queen jackal]

id prob be using in opsi boss fleet so id prob just prefer to have 109 on her?

[storm heron]

hint: it's not the damage that matters

[tame jungle]

so what matters then

[storm heron]

the sync timings

[sharp socket]

if using with other CVs in opsi (which you should) then sync her slow accordingly so that your other CVs can hit converging torps

[spring bolt]

not just converging torps, bombs and rockets, bb guns, even vanguards will benefit from slow/time stop
converging torps do get the biggest boost tho

[ivory pawn]

Does getting S rank do anything, other than allowing you to Quick Battle dailies?

[stark quiver]

full heavy setup on light goes hard

[viscid swift]

in general? S rank gurantees a ship drop on bosses and gives 20% more XP for the battle

[spring bolt]

s rank in main story/event stage will have 1.2x exp boost

also boss fight with s rank guarantee a ship drop, main story hard map bosses will guarantee 2 retro items drop

[sweet delta]

Bet

[errant frigate]

How do I get xp material

[ivory pawn]

So don’t need to stress it too much for mob fleet, can toss someone in there for exp. Just run a strong boss fleet, got it.

[sweet delta]

Which kind of XP?

[tame jungle]

you want your ships to survive on mob fleet too at the bare minimum

[errant frigate]

To level up ships I just started

[sweet delta]

Sunk ships. Lose 10 extra morale, leading to worse exp and affinity loss eventually

[viscid swift]

I would still consistently maintain the fleet to get s rank, 20% XP does add up if you're not getting it consistently

not like W12 is a particularly high bar either way so if you're losing ships somthing is very wrong

[sweet delta]

New players dont really get exp packs beyond the weekly 4000 oil pack. Use ships in battle to level them up

[errant frigate]

Ok

[spring bolt]

dead ship gets 0 exp so usually you want mob fleet survive all the time, and overtime A victory means losing the 1.2x multiplier for whole fleet, which is also not good
in other words, in main story and event stages, S is standard, A means your fleets needs some work

[sweet delta]

What does B mean?

[viscid swift]

skill issue, literally

[ivory pawn]

It’s just the one ship mostly, just getting them some levels to LB for tech points. Should really probably just use more exp packs, but I’m saving them for no reason.

[storm heron]

What about C timed out

[sweet delta]

just use more exp packs

[viscid swift]

this is precisely what you save XP packs for, use them

[stark quiver]

berke moment

[sinful elk]

Chat who should I dev next now that I finished ply agir and brest

[weary gust]

Plymouth Uhh. Haku

[sinful elk]

771/950 tech

[weary gust]

Fdg? Azuma and AvP also good

[storm heron]

maybe they were using 3 skyrocket healers and 3 tanks

[spring bolt]

shimanto, anchorage

[storm heron]

get Avp fs5

[sinful elk]

I already done fdg so avp it is

[storm heron]

fs5 avp or bust

[sinful elk]

I got anchor fs5 and lack tech to dev shimanto

[sweet delta]

Bust is a topic for #al-general

[storm heron]

no not that bust

[stark quiver]

[glass basin]

Im trying to make an he bb team of doy, warspite and monarch vs Helena meta, what vanguards should I use other than regular Helena

[soft raft]

Tank and DPS/Other utility
Cant really get more specific when we dont really know who you have and what state they're in

[sweet delta]

and Monarch is pretty bad against light

[glass basin]

Thought Guam would be good but don't have her...I have agir but she's only 25

[glass basin]

Should I rid of her for fdg

[sweet delta]

Cant really get more specific when we dont really know who you have and what state they're in

[sweet delta]

certainly bring Aurora and not a 4 star fdg

[hollow gust]

well hood can try to work

[sweet delta]

Hood warspite duke portland aurora helena

takao/neptune/eugen with augment replace portland, but consider carefully before crafting the augment

[glass basin]

Sounds good

So if I fully raise agir can I replace Portland with her

[sweet delta]

dev 25, level 120

[glass basin]

Since she armor breaks
Don't really want to spend on augment on eugene
Heard she's not that great in the long run

[forest palm]

keep in mind not all armor break stacks

[glass basin]

Also here are my guns

Only have 1 fire control how do I distribute
Also does Helena use 16s or 20s

[sweet delta]

mk7 on warspite, mk6 on hood and duke, fire control on duke

[weary gust]

A Dev 15 agir would be better than Portland, I wouldn't even wait for d30 to replace that.

[sweet delta]

helena 20s

[forest palm]

wouldn't recommend using a Dev 15 Agir for actual content

[glass basin]

On a side note
What do you guys do with trash gear like gold 410

[viscid swift]

I scrap it

[sweet delta]

i equip it

[forest palm]

scrap for plates

[weary gust]

Keep 1 for collection scrap rest

[forest palm]

would only keep unique limited gear tbh

[glass basin]

Sounds good
Btw do you guys craft the aa gun that gives fp

[forest palm]

yes

[viscid swift]

I have a few lying around

[sweet delta]

i have a few dozen

[weary gust]

I have some but rarely use them. Not often a need to minmax that hard.

[soft raft]

I have like 4

[glass basin]

Maybe I need to craft a few to min max

[forest palm]

it's a shit aa gun, but a stat stick is a stat stick and if AA isn't a concern then may as well use it

[viscid swift]

meh, low on the priority list

[glass basin]

Would it be good vs helena or other meta bosses where bbs are good

[soft raft]

What Taz said

[viscid swift]

it would be a marginal boost in your vanguard damage at the cost of AA

[storm heron]

either 10 hit or 15 fp

[viscid swift]

which is why it's used mainly in OpSi and META fights

if you really want to boost your damage, plus 10 another Mk6

[glass basin]

Oh ok so it boosts vg damage
Like back line don't use it usually?

[weary gust]

Backline uses staag

[viscid swift]

usually no, the hit is more valuable most of the time

[glass basin]

Cool, thank you for the answer guys

[late flame]

think of it this way - all that damage means nothing if you miss

[storm heron]

all that accuracy means nothing if you always hit

[forest palm]

typically high evasion enemies means STAAG > 134

[glass basin]

I assume helena has high evasion

So aurora was suggested

[sweet delta]

helena has low eva by today's boss standards, but BBs have very low hit when you don't have AFCTs and hit tech

[storm heron]

magato has higher evasion, but aurora is definitely not suggested

[forest palm]

considering Aurora only works on CL, and DD...ya...

[glass basin]

What is afct

[forest palm]

HSFCR's bigger better cousin

[glass basin]

And yeah my hit is low from low number of ships

[glass basin]

Oh that rainbow event limited thingy?

[soft raft]

Admirality Fire Control Table
The item from Vanguard event

[late flame]

rainbow table

[soft raft]

Gaming table

[late flame]

ngl wish i could time travel so i has 2 instead

[glass basin]

Pro gamer move: use afct

[forest palm]

I wish I had 3

[glass basin]

Do you guys think it would be purchasable or craftable in the fiuture

[stark quiver]

idk
maybe

[late flame]

and more goldburn

[soft raft]

Most likely core data shop
unless they decide to make auxes craftable in gear lab next year

[sweet delta]

Same, all defensive taiyuan wins:
120 love Fargo ply+tash
125 love taiyuan mog+seal
125 oath hinden Unzen+improved+drake
125 oath Unzen Unzen+improved
The win was a 9:59 so no difference with loss. So adjusting yields taiyuan 100%, hinden 94%, Unzen 87%, Fargo 57% without mog gun

[glass basin]

Yeah just have to cope with gold fcr instead

Thankfully not too hard to get already got a piece in a month

Man only a month back and fomo is already kicking in on me
So many event limited gear like afct and hvar are busted

[glass basin]

Hmm should I augment hood

[viscid swift]

yes

[eager mulch]

cheeky I can’t find the vid your name is a reference to

[viscid swift]

it's a flamu clip, you can hear it at the beggining of Yuro's Atago review

[soft raft]

Yes
100% barrage proc chance does wonders for her consistency

[glass basin]

wait wtf her augment gives 140% modifier vs light instead of 70%

that sounds like a big boost

[tame jungle]

It’s huge yeah

[forest palm]

[glass basin]

imagine before when she doesn't proc
just like the pain when helena skill doesn't proc

[bold stream]

Hello as a new player which pr ship should I prio?

[soft raft]

FdG > All of PR4 > At least Plymouth from PR5 > Everyone else

Also dont bother too much on research ships until like at least W9

[bold stream]

Olay thanks!

[regal tinsel]

is there a site or a walkthrough for unlocking all TB ending? i'm kinda having a bad time trying to unlock specific ending when they have somehow similar requirements

[keen sable]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488

[regal tinsel]

thanks

[sacred thistle]

is there a beginner guide or anything I should be aware of while I'm starting? is there anything I should avoid doing early game ?

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[glass basin]

Is this plane any good
Which kind of armor is it best against

[soft raft]

timing adjustment to the other aimed TBs

[sweet delta]

it's one of four converging TBs, good against all armor types because you don't have a choice for slots that can only take TBs #gameplay-help message

[storm heron]

for single target boss fight conv tbs surely you only consider timing and not the armor type

[glass basin]

So basically I can treat it similarly as junker or ryusei, just different timing

[trim sparrow]

Fargo want any specific gear or just standard?

[tame jungle]

Keep in mind that the torps for that thing are really slow