So I'm using a tier list.
#gameplay-help
rancid mural
whole crypt
umbral wadi
Is illustrious good?
heavy crag
you can get any ship viable, no?
whole crypt
Is illustrious good?
pretty rubbish without aug, usable if you have aug
umbral wadi
Aug?
whole crypt
I wouldn't say any ship, depends on what stage you're throwing the ship in
atomic abyss
unique augment
quasi iron
well i kinda don't know what should my
heavy crag
ooh... i stopped grinding after ch12, so ig illust can work on any chapter prior to that, and any event stages with lower level requirement
whole crypt
anyway it's either older mail gets deleted or you stop getting new mail, just claim what you have into storage and call it a day, unless your storage is also somehow full
the game alerts you when you're close to or reach the limit anyway
heavy crag
i'm on my way cleaning it, just when i noticed that the game maintance either every 1 or 2 weeks
viscid swift
yes that is typical of this game
rancid mural
Helllpppppp
dreamy blade
best way to farm purple plates is just keep grinding 12-4?
barren tapir
you can get any ship viable, no?
for w12 and under, event maps, and general opsi (not harbiter or meta fight, maybe not abyssal/stronghold) most ships are usable but it depends on how you define usable...
steel lava
What is worth getting here?
dreamy blade
oof not enough for every
upbeat wagon
So, once i craft saratoga augment, should I use it over enterprise
atomic abyss
best way to farm purple plates is just keep grinding 12-4?
yeah, pretty much
upbeat wagon
Or should i even craft saratoga augment
barren tapir
use both they are both good ships, sara more mobbing, enty more bossing
upbeat wagon
I am using enty rn
barren tapir
if you intend to use sara then u want her aug it is very very good but you also dont have to use sara, she is good but there are numerous other options that work well in her place
upbeat wagon
Ight ill craft once i need a mobbing fleet
atomic abyss
What is worth getting here?
get the eagle union tech boxes
steel lava
get the eagle union tech boxes
What do those do?
atomic abyss
they get you gold or purple equipment
barren tapir
what would be an example good cheap fleet to farm yuudachi? since it's a break week i want to grind out some ship for collection 
steel lava
they get you gold or purple equipment
Ohh okay
atomic abyss
what would be an example good cheap fleet to farm yuudachi? since it's a break w...
cv+dd
such as uni+ddg
barren tapir
tyty
umbral wadi
When is the next ur event?
atomic abyss
next week we'll have musashi rerun
upbeat wagon
if you use sara, craft her aug
I mean i want to use her but everybody told me to use enty
atomic abyss
save her for your mob fleet as you mentioned
barren tapir
if you want to use her then use her, shes a solid ship
atomic abyss
enterprise is just better by all other comparisons
barren tapir
enty being better doesnt mean you cant use her, you need more than 1 ship 
knotty dome
running out of grey plates from spamming rigging analysis, is 12-1 best farm spot?
whole crypt
we don't really have the rates so no point trying lower
buy from medal shop if you have to
knotty dome
also, how does the random skin option work if you select "secretary rotation list"?
knotty dome
we don't really have the rates so no point trying lower
buy from medal shop if y...
already do 
barren tapir
you can also open a bunch of t3 tech crates, iirc dismantle blue gear gives gray plate?
whole crypt
you can join the B1 club for Musashi rerun 
viscid swift
remind me again how people run out of grey plates
whole crypt
I can see running "low" but you have to be really lucky with 1hr Qs to run out
barren tapir
theres always 0lb low map farming for oil efficient gray plates but then you sac everything else so i wouldnt 
whole crypt
thus B1
knotty dome
i keep taking rigging 1h whenever i see it, and i've been doing higher world campaign for a few months/1 year now for the better chip gains
barren tapir
ye, in an event it is not a bad idea ig
whole crypt
campaign isn't really worth going low for plates but events it works out to better point eff anyway
viscid swift
smh straying from 12-1
barren tapir
events have better plate rates in general also since elites
knotty dome
haven't bought from the medal shop this month yet but i'm gonna run out soon 
whole crypt
13 and 14 better chips though
viscid swift
I can't drag tempesta shitters through there
whole crypt
I'm back to 12-1 myself
I think I can drag tempestas through 14, just not 3 of them at a go and not before 105 or so
I'm trying to avoid leveling the new frigates but they're already 99 
torpid ravine
hey, i am new and have questions?
I dont have many ships, what can i do against my morale, when i play often with my fleet the moral is going to 0.
It is useful to limit break all my ships?
knotty dome
also, how does the random skin option work if you select "secretary rotation lis...
for example, if i have this option selected, and somebody with 2 skins on the list, but have random secretary off, will the ship on the list change skin randomly every day?
soft raft
hey, i am new and have questions?
I dont have many ships, what can i do against...
limit break wont help with morale but you should be limit breaking the ships you're using
give this a read too https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips if you havent already
And if your morale is low, just go touch grass and wait
torpid ravine
limit break wont help with morale but you should be limit breaking the ships you...
thx you, i dont have read is
knotty dome
hey, i am new and have questions?
I dont have many ships, what can i do against...
you can put ships in the dorm to recover their morale faster
eager mulch
limit break wont help with morale but you should be limit breaking the ships you...
erm, limit breaking ships increases their survivability, decreasing their chances of sinking and losing morale 
steel lava
What's the difference between all the tech boxes?
eager mulch
the gear inside them
soft raft
different factions have different gear
steel lava
Which one is the best then?
soft raft
Eagle has a good amount of solid newbie gear like the Hellcat, 406 Mk6, and Helldiver
Iron blood has the quadruple magnetic torps which are basically the best for auto
Sakura has the Triple 155 which is a solid BB Secondary gun and can be later upgraded into a solid CL Main gun as well
whole crypt
generally USS, but depends on what you need
vocal sigil
do repair packs get converted into opsi tickets? just wanna know if I should ignore them on the shops after I buy the important stuff
viscid swift
no
whole crypt
Eagle has a good amount of solid newbie gear like the Hellcat, 406 Mk6, and Hell...
HMS drops barracuda and roomba
faint jacinth
is there way to get one 😭
dies
viscid swift
not anymore
steel lava
Eagle has a good amount of solid newbie gear like the Hellcat, 406 Mk6, and Hell...
I think I'll just go for the eagle one then
vocal sigil
oh thanks!
hollow gust
my plates
torpid ravine
i can build 2 fleet who are good for me atm. Must i go off when the moral of all of this ships are run out?
forest palm
<:BiskoSweat:588629714483019776> my plates
skill issue la
soft raft
i can build 2 fleet who are good for me atm. Must i go off when the moral of all...
if you havent reached W9 yet, dont even bother with a second fleet right now
spreading your resources among 12 ships early game is a very bad idea when 1) You're most likely struggling to focus on 6 and 2) most your avaliable choices are most likely terrible af
rancid mural
i can build 2 fleet who are good for me atm. Must i go off when the moral of all...
Can confirm don't be like me
plain saffron
wait does event end today?
wind hazel
it ended
atomic abyss
event ended before maint
plain saffron
fuck me
atomic abyss
no thanks
plain saffron
😔
barren tapir
spreading your resources among 12 ships early game is a very bad idea when 1) Yo...
i can add a 3) you probably struggle to gear even 1 fleet with anything useful, let alone 2
torpid ravine
when i come further and i wantedt to grind, how can i find a good lvl? however how far i am currently am
atomic abyss
the short of it is
before you reach w12
you grind the highest map you can do if you get stuck
otherwise you just push content
rancid mural
Is it worth the oil to 3* maps or just keep pushin
atomic abyss
3*-ing campaign maps is your primary way of getting gems as an f2p
tame jungle
then they are still free gems
atomic abyss
^
if you're not f2p oil isnt an issue anyways
why would you turn down the opportunity to save money tho
undone plover
Although if u are pushing u can come back to 3 star them later on
Usually ppl try and 3 star on the initial clears tho anyway (before the map is 100%)
So if u can do it it is just easier than coming back for it later
They also give bulins not just gems which are rly needed early on
rancid mural
Oh do they
undone plover
Yeah x-2 maps give a purple bulin and x-4 give gold bulin
barren tapir
x-1 and x-3 also give t4/t5 respectively tech box starting from ch6 which helps with gear a bit
and they give cog chips starting at ch11 
whole crypt
3-star rewards are something you eventually come round to anyway
you don't need to clear them straight away if it's troublesome to, but if you can then sure, go ahead
I didn't 3-star my 15-2 and 15-3 because I don't have much reason to
wind hazel
-# you're just scared of ise and hyuuga
plain saffron
is there any collab with line in JP
whole crypt
what do you mean line
whole crypt
-# you're just scared of ise and hyuuga
actually I left them on lethal in case they'd be useful for any testing since I had 15-4 on safe, then I just couldn't be bothered anymore
I can't remember if they ever sold any stamps for line, but no collab otherwise per se
whole crypt
I wouldn't be surprised if they copied stamps they sold on line wholesale into the game
plain saffron
i'm too lazy to get the actual image
whole crypt
vol1 are all seseren gifs that are also ingame
ebon verge
Should i use the blueprints on Napoli to get rid of her face research or just save for nak?
whole crypt
the net result isn't going to be much difference unless you start using Napoli now
ebon verge
Ah ok imma do it then since i already have her skills upgraded
gilded carbon
Who should i aim for in Series 3? Odin? Or Drake? Its Not much of a Problem to Change between different researches on these Ships, aide from the time it Takes, right?
Or Champagne? Cute French BB
atomic abyss
Who should i aim for in Series 3? Odin? Or Drake? Its Not much of a Problem to C...
cheshire is the only one that remains relevant
and is actually still useful
gilded carbon
Ok. Thanks. ^^ relevant is the current Meta for challenge-Bosses and the like, i assume. Will the Others perform reasonably well outside of that, then?
atomic abyss
she is relevant because she is one of the best in the game at AA
the rest have no relevant niches, but yes, they will perform in any non difficult content/farming
keen sable
Who should i aim for in Series 3? Odin? Or Drake? Its Not much of a Problem to C...
change once is ok but constantly changing seems like a bad idea
gilded carbon
Thank you. I will likely go for the Alice in Wonderland-Reference then
gilded carbon
change once is ok but constantly changing seems like a bad idea
Oh, once i have one in the works, i will usually finish them
After that, i have at least 1 Ship of the Series 1-4. Should i get something specific after? Or a specific Series in Research for Gear?
In the Guides are many different good Options presented
atomic abyss
get the other series 4 ships
all of them are really good, besides marco
also get friederich de grosse if you havent first
gilded carbon
I have from the Shipyard:
Roon
Friedrich
Series 3 pending
Marco Polo
August von Parcival
keen sable
After that, i have at least 1 Ship of the Series 1-4. Should i get something spe...
you generally set your focus to 4 although the cutover to a higher season, has either happened, is happening, or is fast approaching. Who you develop doesn't really matter unless you lack dock space.
gilded carbon
Aside from FdG, all are Fate Sim 30
crimson glacier
same items never stack
atomic abyss
item passives from the same item dont stack
only the stats do
flint cosmos
Oh, I see, is there any exception or it's the same for every item?
crimson glacier
no exceptions
keen sable
if you consider minus 40 avi stacking then the passive stacks
tropic tusk
cute little chicken tho
flint cosmos
I see, thanks for the help!
flint cosmos
~~if you consider minus 40 avi stacking then the passive stacks~~
Haha 😆
keen sable
Oh, I see, is there any exception or it's the same for every item?
not an item but xp boost is an exception eg langley + houshou
storm heron
How's Nep?
tame jungle
eHP improvement is very decent, with a nice damage bump. Doesn’t seem like anything particularly special on the damage side
storm heron
gonna need the ehp calc soon 
tame jungle
Think mebot said like 125
barren tapir
123 something
tame jungle
Not sure if that accounts for the heal? Probably not right
atomic abyss
it shdnt
amber frost
Is hard mode missions broken or...? I am trying to beat hard mode A2 but the enemies are not reappearing so I can fully clear the quests, wtf is wrong with this game ?
crimson glacier
the problem is you not the game
viscid swift
turn off clearing mode
amber frost
it is clear
viscid swift
turn it off
crimson glacier
yeah you have it on so no enemies
whole crypt
clearing mode disables mobs for HM
amber frost
both are disabled
crimson glacier
leave the map
whole crypt
I'm sure it's not
viscid swift
they are not
amber frost
nvm
whole crypt
you can't fleet lock and autosearch outside of clearing mode
soft osprey
yeah you have it on so no enemies
oh so thats why i can't get 3 stars on hrdmode levels i cleared?
crimson glacier
if you are missing normal enemy kills then yeah, you need to disable clearing mode
viscid swift
you can, just turn off clearing ode to complete the 2nd star
whole crypt
if you don't do it before clearing then you'll have to turn off clearing mode to do it after
soft osprey
finaly, some way to get the retrofit blueprints i so badly need
stone sluice
Is hard mode missions broken or...? I am trying to beat hard mode A2 but the ene...
Nice UR bullin in the fleet
sweet delta
*nice fleet
amber frost
Nice UR bullin in the fleet <:Glowow:611004137210904579>
🤨 whats your problem again ?
atomic abyss
right, why is that even in there
all bulins arent for combat
they have horrendous stats
they're meant to be used for limit breaking
rancid mural
Is there any reason to not level and limit break a second unicorn
atomic abyss
yes, because its a complete waste of resources
sweet delta
Yeah the reason is you can't use duplicates in the same fleet 
atomic abyss
also that
storm heron
cause you don't need to, you don't even need a healer in another fleet
soft raft
Is there any reason to not level and limit break a second unicorn
it's a waste of resources to raise dupes in general
there are like 700+ ships in the game, there's gonna be crap tons of overlap for a majority of roles
rancid mural
I mean I have literally no other decent back line unit
sweet delta
Yeah the reason is you can't use duplicates in the same fleet <:EssexWheeze:1280...
I mean
atomic abyss
raising a 2nd unicorn is not going to solve that issue
in the first place
where are you campaign wise?
viscid swift
Unicorn isn't even a particularly good ship for bossing anyway
rancid mural
9-1 I took a break to 3* everything
tame jungle
They have a thread
soft raft
Unicorn isn't even a particularly good ship for bossing anyway
^
If you're using a healer in the boss fleet or are considering it, then you have a massive skill issue
sweet delta
we mean
atomic abyss
thats just... a horrible backline period
rancid mural
That's why I asked!
atomic abyss
this may surprise you
soft raft
9-1 I took a break to 3* everything
Mid, Mid, Mid, Mid, most likely not retrofitted, and Somewhat decent
Yeah no wonder why
atomic abyss
but lower rarity stuff
strong tartan
even houshou looks like she doesn't wanna be there
atomic abyss
outclass every single ship in that backline
the issue you have is caused by using high rarity ships which are shit
not because you dont have decent backline units
viscid swift
didn't I already tell you all your remaining main fleets are shit
atomic abyss
you almost certainly do - it's just that they're lower rarity
rancid mural
Yea I was just curious
atomic abyss
tempestas are shit for a new player period
rancid mural
About second unicorn is all, but it seems that ain't it
atomic abyss
thats about it really
rancid mural
Lol I'll just keep on truckin
atomic abyss
high rarity ships that cant kill planes doesnt bode well
especially when they're taking bulins from other stuff
that would need it more
im not saying dont raise waifus
im saying, maybe raise them later when you have the ships to "carry" them
rancid mural
I'm guessing at some point planes matter?
storm heron
w12-15
tame jungle
Starting from ch12 yeah
rancid mural
What does planes even do
viscid swift
the issue isn't that they can't kill planes but that they won't kill much of anything because they have no gear
tame jungle
Kill you
rancid mural
They have ssr gear
soft raft
What does planes even do
planes can expose your backline and then open it up for them to be nuked by enemy ships
tame jungle
Rarity for gear hardly means anything
sweet delta
They have a thread
viscid swift
doubt Sah Martihno and and Gao have the SR Old Cannon thing
sweet delta
They have a thread
rancid mural
Anyways sorry sorry I just wanted to know unicorn
sweet delta
All they asked about was unicorn not tempesta
atomic abyss
uh
eternal basalt
About second unicorn is all, but it seems that ain't it
There is no point to having two of the same ship except skin reasons
atomic abyss
what timing did you need to hit to sync with mog for metato?
storm heron
I don't think that's a good advice for people
tame jungle
22.6 right?
atomic abyss
i vaguely recall 22.61, just wanted to be sure
sweet delta
What's Seattle vs Mainz DPS?
sweet delta
Thats pure cap
atomic abyss
neppy aoa DPS is ridiculous lol
sweet delta
Whiffs ridiculously
sweet delta
Neptune DPS was like port or lower before Aug
atomic abyss
no lmao
nep DPS was topping CL DPS charts in her heyday
definitely not port level
sweet delta
Port has gotten massive buffs since Neptune's heyday
atomic abyss
and neppy has gotten plygun as well as CL gun buffs
keen sable
so giving eugen drake
atomic abyss
in the first place, comparing them in a fleet like tat isnt even accurate
you'd have to compare 1 at a time
not 3 at the same time
sweet delta
Why
atomic abyss
because placement can affect DPS too
not to mention
what if mainz kills something neppy or scuttle was aiming at?
sweet delta
I'm not an idiot
keen sable
uhh...
hollow sail
botes with decent to good torp aren't super straightforward to compare
viscid swift
this is probably gonna be against CM, I doubt they're gonna kill that
sweet delta
Placement makes less than 2% difference for ships like these
eternal basalt
It matters for non-FS5 Mainz
keen sable
if mainz kills elbing then she's god
ikr gotta compare d30 nep to d30 mainz for the truest test /s
eternal basalt
Wasn't the argument how time made them better...?
keen sable
no, seattle was called crap and worse than D30 nep
forest palm
by today's standrads seattle may as well be crap
atomic abyss
both of them arent good CLs in this day and age
nep already had little going for it based on its skill set even in the era of pre oil cap (as a solo vg)
and seattle came out after sandy kai did
sweet delta
I had to restart because I forgot Scorpio's venom
Would you agree that giving everyone +10 weapons instead of +13 weapons favors Neptune?
forest palm
nep already had little going for it based on its skill set even in the era of pr...
well...Phoenix existed, so in a pre-oil cap environment...
atomic abyss
not just phoenix
minneapolis literally costs the same amount of oil and has more damage and actually has secondary guns
soft osprey
Fine, I'll do it myself. But I don't have 4 +13 ply guns
...why would you put someone as squishy as a CVL as the flagship? at least put long island or vestal to compensate
atomic abyss
because the idea is for them to heal the frontline so that the frontline doesnt bite the dust mid battle
sweet delta
Long island and vestal are squishy too???
soft osprey
yeah but long island helps on dmg
atomic abyss
also that
sweet delta
In fact long island is a CVL too
soft osprey
and vestal heals so she cna make them less squishy
atomic abyss
the entire point is for them not to do damage
soft osprey
In fact long island is a CVL too
yeah but a stronger one
atomic abyss
vestal heals peanuts
tame jungle
This is CM, it’s a whole different scenario to campaign
plus it’s testing the CLs
atomic abyss
zuihou and unicorn literally have healing skills
sweet delta
I have news for you, zuihou heals 20x more than vestal does
boreal wagon
i think you are vastly misunderstanding what suchi is trying to do
viscid swift
yeah but a stronger one
my dude, just quit while you're only slightly behind
atomic abyss
you
may want to backread the conversation
and try to understand what that fleet is for
soft osprey
i don't even use healers so idk thedetails, but a 2 ship main of fragile ships seems like a bad idea even for mob
tame jungle
Backread
atomic abyss
surprise - it's not a mob fleet
sweet delta
Somehow Mainz died through Perseus so looks like the lab is burning
tame jungle
Who let him cook
sweet delta
She got stung through Perseus healing before even 5 minutes passed
keen mural
It's the first time I get the "alliance launch ceremony" is the chance SSR chosen from a pool or there is no data on that?
atomic abyss
firstly, it's only a chance for a ship
so you're not guaranteed a ship
you're not even guaranteed an SSR
eternal basalt
I never got a SSR from that
atomic abyss
to my knowledge, the commission picks from the original base pool of ships
keen sable
It's the first time I get the "alliance launch ceremony" is the chance SSR chose...
generally believed to be the original ship pool
forest palm
I got a Sandy from it way back 
keen mural
Alright, thanks
left cedar
i think i'm crazy, cuz call LI strong CVL its .... funny
atomic abyss
to be fair
sweet delta
Have you seen her augment barrage?
atomic abyss
she isnt the worst few anymore at least
sweet delta
~~But to be fair who would craft the augment ~~
atomic abyss
hi
i crafted it and used it a fair bit
the barrage is pitiful
the fact remains that ranger is still better
left cedar
idk ur stands, but strong CVL for me is something that dont exist
atomic abyss
the standard for a DPS CVL is ranger with average rng
if you cant beat ranger there's no discussion lmao
left cedar
usefull and healers i agree that exist, but not DPS ones
sweet delta
idk ur stands, but strong CVL for me is something that dont exist
Albion, theseus, centaur exist
atomic abyss
and thats excluding monsters like indep
left cedar
just get luck and RNGer it will be infinity
but i born without that feature
left cedar
Albion, theseus, centaur exist
not even close to UR CVs. so shit
sweet delta
Ur right enterprise shit
atomic abyss
but in all seriousness, the 3 CVLs sushi mentioned are already pretty decent choices for w15 support fleets
not the best, but you can do much worse
and indep herself is... probably the best CVL in the game thats not named unicorn?
sweet delta
I gave Seattle the worst position and fortunately did not have a fourth +10 ply gun
atomic abyss
extremely good for campaign
left cedar
i would take my Klaudia in 2nd place for CVLs
sweet delta
Albion, theseus, centaur exist
These three have high gold CV damage level, like Hornii/Shangri/aboveessex
atomic abyss
and because they're CVLs, they can also naturally stagger due to high rld
which makes them pretty good for campaign
sweet delta
Unfortunately CVLs also have much worse gains from 
atomic abyss
dont they get more tech to be fair
left cedar
Isnt CVLs higher RLD Tech and iirc higher AVI ?
atomic abyss
you win some you lose some i suppose
atomic abyss
I gave Seattle the worst position and fortunately did not have a fourth +10 ply ...
you dont got a d30 120 bayard by any chance do you?
cos i am curious where those CN claims of "3rd highest CL DPS" came from
left cedar
yeah, a bit higher AVI and RLD Tech for CVLs
sweet delta
Thanks for reminding me about CL EVA
keen sable
maybe nep gets better comparatively against m/h 
L is probably seattles best matchup
atomic abyss
well i would love to test with my d30 lv120 bayard
nep gets her best against med yes
but i doubt it'll make up that much difference
whole thorn
Good afternoon guys, need some help here
Who should I farm next? Not sure who is more useful(?
barren tapir
I gave Seattle the worst position and fortunately did not have a fourth +10 ply ...
this is without her augment right cos that is some depressing
atomic abyss
Who should I farm next? Not sure who is more useful(?
1st - have you gotten friederich de grosse in series 2
whole thorn
1st - have you gotten friederich de grosse in series 2
Yes sir
atomic abyss
ok, then have you gotten all the series 4 ships?
because those are more valuable/useful
tame jungle
Do we have the numbers on neptune’s augment barrage yet
atomic abyss
Fire, target: Nil: {'weapon_id': 166590}
Bullet ID: 160957, barrage ID: 81891
WT: 1 - Dmg: 4x3x35, Shrapnel(Normal)(100/100/100), Coeff: 1, Scale: 1 FP, Speed: 150, bullet range: 20, Pierce: 50, ignore Shields, ignore bomb collisions, Splits into 1 fragment after 0.2s:
Reaimed: Bullet ID: 160958, barrage ID: 81111
WT: 1 - Dmg: 1x1x35, Normal(100/100/100), Coeff: 1, Scale: 1 FP, Speed: 150, bullet range: 200Fire, target: HarmRandomByWeight: {'weapon_id': 166600}
Bullet ID: 160959, barrage ID: 81892
WT: 3 - Dmg: 1x4x100, Torp(80/100/130), Coeff: 1, Scale: 1 TRP, Speed: 50, bullet range: 90, Splash: 3
whole thorn
ok, then have you gotten all the series 4 ships?
Only missing Marco Polo, had no interest… 😅
whole thorn
well, have you dev 30 or fate sim 5 all of them?
Unfortunately no. Idk how to farm their blueprints quickly/efficiently…
It takes me months, if not a year to max one
whole thorn
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
Time to read!!
keen sable
It takes me months, if not a year to max one
coins exist but slowly isn't terrible either. a year is probably excessively slow for no reason though.
rancid mural
Should I get the sandy retrofit item or get the item to uncap ur
whole thorn
August and Hakuryuu are at 25 and 21
storm heron
max haku and avp first
viscid swift
Should I get the sandy retrofit item or get the item to uncap ur
again why are you pulling on the permanent banner
rancid mural
I mean I dunno I did a 10 pull
viscid swift
yeah please don't do that ever again
whole thorn
coins exist but slowly isn't terrible either. a year is probably excessively sl...
Yeah, I do use coins almost daily
rancid mural
Alright
viscid swift
always save your cubes for events
rancid mural
I saw people in the lower right box getting urs and I was like maybbeeee
storm heron
did aquila have a rate up when she was archived?
viscid swift
no
eager mulch
no 
atomic abyss
I saw people in the lower right box getting urs and I was like maybbeeee
there's a UR event next week
you should save for that instead
instead of wasting 20 cubes like you just did
rancid mural
Is that enough?
viscid swift
I saw people in the lower right box getting urs and I was like maybbeeee
you do know that we have Musashi rerunning next week right
storm heron
alright the 60 cubes aquila is perhaps why I haven't got lucky these days
eager mulch
Is that enough?
yes
whole thorn
max haku and avp first
Got it. AVP is easier since I can use coins, but Hakuryuu might take me time cuz of Blueprints farm
rancid mural
No I don't know who or what muashi
atomic abyss
musashi is a UR
viscid swift
atomic abyss
one that is better than all the permanent URs
storm heron
Got it. AVP is easier since I can use coins, but Hakuryuu might take me time cuz...
pr4 also gives a lot of good gears, so staying there is good
atomic abyss
permanent UR pity is independent of limited UR pity
you need to dump about 300+ to guarantee
viscid swift
we also have a To-Love Ru collab dropping soon after
rancid mural
Oh guess I should like not spend cubes
viscid swift
and a new UR dropping next month most likely
left cedar
and not much futher in time, New UR
tame jungle
Resource management game
keen sable
Is that enough?
completely unrelated to musashi so no
whole thorn
pr4 also gives a lot of good gears, so staying there is good
Im not sure I follow… I just started recently to go serious about gearing shipgirls properly, if that’s what you mean 😒
left cedar
u cant have it all in beggining, u should make sacrifices here and there till u get a stable income and plenty resourcers
whole thorn
:s*
rancid mural
Yea gold is pretty brutal
chrome fiber
Agree
storm heron
Im not sure I follow… I just started recently to go serious about gearing shipgi...
how many tenrai prints do you have rn?
I think it's good to minmax between faces vs rigging analysis
whole thorn
I am not sure what you mean by tenrai… 😞
tame jungle
tenrai = UR dive bomber from PR4
whole thorn
storm heron
check by looking at the gears you can craft, and then filter by UR rarity
autumn pumice
Hm, best reconessaince plane for Ting An? Is it the Bearcat? Only gold one I see but idk
whole thorn
Aight, going there to check
atomic abyss
Hm, best reconessaince plane for Ting An? Is it the Bearcat? Only gold one I see...
there are better ones, but they're gearlab only
so sure ig
autumn pumice
there are better ones, but they're gearlab only
Which one would be best?
atomic abyss
the suisei model 21
but again, not worth for a ship that cant DPS
viscid swift
a good start right now would be converting all of those combat data packs to prototype cores
autumn pumice
the suisei model 21
but again, not worth for a ship that cant DPS
That seaplane is for BBV only
whole thorn
a good start right now would be converting all of those combat data packs to pro...
Then claim blueprints to build the gears?
viscid swift
yes
atomic abyss
ting an cant dps anyways
just throw her whatever you ALREADY have
and not go out of your way to find something else
viscid swift
just use a bearcat and call it a day
atomic abyss
cargo ship issues
whole thorn
Done. Now gotta figure out what’s a Bearcat…
viscid swift
not referring to you with that comment
crimson glacier
bearcat is shitty plane
storm heron
viscid swift
bearcat seaplane
eager mulch
<:EssexWheeze:1113921620277461033>
is musashi still in 2 maints? 
forest palm
Musashi is gonna be next week
storm heron
is musashi still in 2 maints? <:smolmagistare:1198098621896343673>
fine
eager mulch
fine <:EssexWheeze:1113921620277461033>
whole thorn
And I supposed I should put the Tenrai in Hakuryuu
And gotta far more Tenrais for Shinano(?
eager mulch
You’re supposed to not use haku
whole thorn
Farm*
whole thorn
You’re supposed to not use haku
Huh? 😦
eager mulch
she’s not dev 30
atomic abyss
your haku isnt max dev
so she's shit
whole thorn
Oh…
atomic abyss
also
viscid swift
And I supposed I should put the Tenrai in Hakuryuu
right now you would bench Hakuryu
storm heron
Done. Now gotta figure out what’s a Bearcat…
your target might be to get 25 tenrai prints by the time you finish haku fs5, so should be pretty lax (prioritize haku faces then avp then marco, when no faces, prioritize rigging analysis)
forest palm
shoving all that Japanese garbage on the ships cause they're IJN 
viscid swift
also can I just say it's a little concerning you can't even scrape together 4 gold catapults for 2 of your best CVs
atomic abyss
the suisei 12A is a bad plane
whole thorn
Yikes
atomic abyss
and there are easily accessible fighters from tech boxes that are equal to the shiden kai fighter you have
whole thorn
also can I just say it's a little concerning you can't even scrape together 4 go...
I didn’t get into gearing properly my shipgirls until now 😞 I used to be more casual and only play for story tbh
atomic abyss
all that glitters is not gold
whole thorn
But now I’m getting more serious
atomic abyss
the best diverbomber thats not the tenrai, is the purple rarity sb2c helldiver
viscid swift
first thing would be spending at least half of that 23k oil
preferably by grinding maps and not spent on dorm food
whole thorn
first thing would be spending at least half of that 23k oil
Is there a specific map to farm blueprints, I suppose?
atomic abyss
no, but for exp and coins
whole thorn
no, but for exp and coins
Got it
whole thorn
I’m scared to show what I have lol. I’m at 11-3 rn I think
So yeah, gotta grind to 12-1 at least
viscid swift
meh, I have seen a lot of garbage docks
stark quiver
cant be that bad
whole thorn
cant be that bad
Not for what I have, but for how I build the girls
I think is not that bad, but sometimes I’m kinda scare to show others lol
eternal moth
If you know it's bad, why do it?
viscid swift
read sam's gear guide in #bot-spam /equip
whole thorn
If you know it's bad, why do it?
Idk, I just follow the wiki/meta website
Never got into building/gearing properly until now
eternal moth
When you say meta, do you mean ALM? Because that guy's pretty bad
whole thorn
When you say meta, do you mean ALM? Because that guy's pretty bad
Yeah, that one…
viscid swift
when was the last time he actually made a guide
eternal moth
If you don't want to spend the time figuring out your own gear, I'd use ECTL https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/
eager mulch
but people don’t read ectl
tame jungle
just use sam's guide
eternal moth
True, it does require people to actually read the descriptions
eager mulch
people don’t read ectl, they come into ectl, then they block me 😔
whole thorn
If you don't want to spend the time figuring out your own gear, I'd use ECTL htt...
This is the one I use
Maybe I mistook it with other one before
sweet delta
cant be that bad
They're at 11-3
stark quiver
storm heron
I found this difficult
eager mulch
not listening to alo advice probs
atomic abyss
ah
prolly agano torp spam
storm heron
iirc there was also like a train of suicide boats?
atomic abyss
it's not as bad as jintsuu tho
prolly level disadvantage
whole thorn
we shd do a fact finding
why are so many people stuck at 11-3
Idk about others. In my case it got boring playing the stages without story, so I lost interest on playing them and focused on events
And lvl disadvantage
But now I’m good enough to go and pass them
atomic abyss
I gave Seattle the worst position and fortunately did not have a fourth +10 ply ...
how long did this take btw
Cos uh, I got these numbers with 155 kais lmao
admittedly, i used monty to make up for the lack of ply guns but uh
spring bolt
we shd do a fact finding
why are so many people stuck at 11-3
i guess first we need to find out why are they stuck, like if it's mob issue or boss issue
if mob i think that's either suicide ships interception or enemy bbs
if boss it's probably sendai's fake torp
spring bolt
fp based torp, yeah
atomic abyss
storm heron
Cos uh, I got these numbers with 155 kais lmao
is scorpio a single target fight?
sweet delta
Cos uh, I got these numbers with 155 kais lmao
6 minutes but how did you nerf Bayard 
spring bolt
also remove rld buff from backlines i guess
atomic abyss
i mean sushi, what even is her theoretical DPS range
eternal moth
Which is more important for CVs, hit or rld? I can level either Zuihou or Houshou Meta
atomic abyss
rld up to a certain point
dusk maple
Hit
spring bolt
rld imo
atomic abyss
at least 20 CV rld first
night crow
Any tips for the current arbiter (hard) ? My vanguards just can't stay alive
dusk maple
got your adapts up to 203/203/156 ?
eternal moth
Any tips for the current arbiter (hard) ? My vanguards just can't stay alive
Who's your tank, and what level?
storm heron
don't forget to use survivability auxes
eternal moth
I have all CVs with RLD and hit leveled except Zuihou and Houshou Meta, so I'll just level the bird first
atomic abyss
i would agree
storm heron
bird?
atomic abyss
zuihou
night crow
Who's your tank, and what level?
Well They're all lv 125 but i guess to go faster it would be easier to ask what armor type is best to use for tanks as well as what armor type the boss is
tame jungle
zuihou
eternal moth
Zuihou, the mini phoenix
shell willow
which difficulty was that
it says easy on the screenshot
atomic abyss
i ENed
lovely
eternal moth
Well They're all lv 125 but i guess to go faster it would be easier to ask what ...
What ships are you using in your fleet? A screenshot of the fleet screen is fine
night crow
What ships are you using in your fleet? A screenshot of the fleet screen is fine
I know faction fleets are hated though, and my first fleet I need to change cause it's for mobs
atomic abyss
and your faction fleets are the reason you cant clear
this is the hardest arbiter boss
night crow
Yeah... They're just fun to build
atomic abyss
i mean you gotta choose
soft raft
and fun can only get you so far before you ineveitably slam your head against a wall
atomic abyss
you want to clear harbi, or you want to have fun?
eager mulch
do you want to have fun or do you want to win
soft raft
it's either lots of manual pain and resets or properly build non-faction fleets, your pick
viscid swift
I woud at least hope those 3 fleets could each do around 33 bars
eternal moth
Who is that next to NJ?
atomic abyss
constellation
viscid swift
constellation and enterprise
eternal moth
I'd honestly rather see Sara than Constellation in an Eagle Union faction fleet.
atomic abyss
eager mulch
I’d honestly rather not see an Eagle Union Faction fleet
atomic abyss
sara doesnt really, deal well with bosses cos of her DB centric loadout
viscid swift
Color me unimpressed
atomic abyss
nep with aug?
viscid swift
yep
atomic abyss
isnt that a fairly large jump
eager mulch
so neptune still bad?
atomic abyss
wtf
eternal moth
Is that bayard that MVP'd?
viscid swift
yep
eternal moth
Seems like a pretty big jump in damage for Neptune
spring bolt
i'd remove uni so no rld buff to interfere with the result
storm heron
nep did well because of standard deviation?
fallen leaf
is the community tier list still relevant ?
atomic abyss
for campaign up to w13, yes
eager mulch
up to 15
viscid swift
I'll do another this time against normal and no Unicorn
fallen leaf
there is 15?
spring bolt
btw, i did hind vs tai yuan in hard, result is full offensive hind beats full offensive tai yuan, defensive fitted hind can't beat defensive fitted tai yuan
atomic abyss
w15 has a separate list
eternal moth
btw, i did hind vs tai yuan in hard, result is full offensive hind beats full of...
Did your offensive Tai have a seal?
spring bolt
tested seal but double oxy did better
storm heron
what should I keep in mind when doing CM other than 20s heal?
ember forge
Hello, i was wondering which UR in the exchange shop should i choose
eager mulch
NJ
eternal moth
Since you already have NJ, I'd take her
atomic abyss
usually, the answer would be shinano
but since you have NJ, the answer is NJ
eternal moth
Get NJ to MLB before worrying about anyone else
atomic abyss
do not use the UR bulin for NJ
eternal moth
After that, get Shinano
ember forge
are you guys fr ? xd
storm heron
but NJ 1lb with NJ 2lb is the same...
ember forge
is dupe that important
atomic abyss
limit breaks are extremely important
eternal moth
MLB is extremely important
sweet delta
Color me unimpressed
#gameplay-help message color me unsurprised but is that with +13s or +10s, and full defense?
viscid swift
yes
viscid swift
https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/460645783021289472/1303967572471...
all +10, Plymouth gun, quad mags, 134, rudder and Fumo on everyone
ember forge
i see thanks
ember forge
do not use the UR bulin for NJ
why that ?
atomic abyss
because you can always get dupes for NJ, who is permanent
for limited URs, you dont have that liberty
eager mulch
musashi next week, much better than NJ
atomic abyss
and we have a UR coming next week^
atomic abyss
no and no
event limited URs have their own limited pity that disappear at the end of their events
while certainly, they are made permanent eventually - that'll take at least another year in musashi's case
viscid swift
I uh don't know how this happened
ember forge
tyvm
atomic abyss
mainz on crack
sweet delta
What happened? Bayard shit?
spring bolt
bug, sometimes heal doesn't remove debuff
eager mulch
timed out
sweet delta
What's the bug
atomic abyss
i think
that as long as bayard doesnt proc her low HP skill
her DPS isnt extremely remarkable
spring bolt
emmm, i just realized, isn't easy lv110? why not test in normal which is exact lv120?
sweet delta
Fax
viscid swift
because I didn't have normal unlocked yet, for the first test
spring bolt
oh...
atomic abyss
i dont bother with CM either
sweet delta
Because I played hard and Mainz got deleted through Perseus heal before it even went long enough to desync
viscid swift
I already did it last year
atomic abyss
let me try normal now
spring bolt
but 2000 + 1000 coins
spring bolt
no, light
it's just other CLs sucks against med and heavy, like helena meta, chappy
spring bolt
looks like good fun, running that test too
sweet delta
Mainz +13 ply +13 improved quad
Seattle +13 ply +10 ply
Portland +13 hind +13 100kai
Makes sense Seattle gets relatively better than Mainz with better guns
spring bolt
just to find fault with you: Klaudia has slow
sweet delta
only Shouhou is left
spring bolt
Painlevé or Volga?
sweet delta
I'm doing full healer just in case Perseus desyncs
spring bolt
she won't, tested like 30 times and she never desync, but bug may happen that her skill doesn't heal vanguard lead ship
slow fox
<:Noteshiro:911039555904368650> gonna need the ehp calc soon <:LilEnty:109282707...
123.24%, as Aurora said. It accounts for the heal.
spring bolt
for nep? how many shield procs? in other words combat time is?
sweet delta
87s
8 procs for 40% boost but in case some enemy is afk I think 35% boost is reasonable
cobalt rapids
How good is new neptune
sweet delta
#gameplay-help message this seems to be holding up
cobalt rapids
Dmg ?
eternal moth
How good is new neptune
How about reading the past 20 minutes of discussion?
spring bolt
yeah mainz outDPS-ed bayard for me <:ShiSleep:771507346069389313>
same here
+13 ply +13 quad for mainz and bayard
+13 ply +13 155kai for seattle
all gets 134, +10 fumo and rudder
cobalt rapids
How about reading the past 20 minutes of discussion?
What …
eternal moth
Pretty much everything in this channel for the last 20 minutes has been about Neptune testing
atomic abyss
^
eternal moth
Actually, the last hour or so
cobalt rapids
Ive scrolled abit and it was about mainz if u dont wanna answer just dont
viscid swift
sweet delta
dfg ign revealed
eager mulch
neptune still bad?
sweet delta
Ive scrolled abit and it was about mainz if u dont wanna answer just dont
I'll answer you 
❌
sweet delta
<:MutsukiHyperStare:1280210059128868925> dfg ign revealed
Living forest
spring bolt
oh it's actually shanghai dialect, means monkey 
barren tapir
so is it looking like 
is good but not great now?
atomic abyss
yep
eternal moth
She does almost as much damage as Mainz while being 125% of Port's tankiness
eternal moth
ok, so 85% of her damage
barren tapir
~15-20% less according to those ss
tame jungle
i wouldn't call that almost as much 
barren tapir
would nep perform better in a mobbing situation 
tame jungle
yeah most definitely, her kit is pretty much geared around that
barren tapir
so there is some room for improvement there. overall good then imo
tame jungle
especially with her barrage
queen jackal
how many 
are guaranteed per week again
sweet delta
I found this on the web
eternal moth
Is that before or after her augment?
spring bolt
where?
cobalt rapids
how many <:Cube:585585238466363442> are guaranteed per week again
168/4 but not all weeks are equal
sweet delta
On Google sheets 
eternal moth
ok, you want to provide a source?
So your source is "I made it the **** up", got it
spring bolt
now this is getting interesting
normal boss
all use +13 ply, +13 quad (+13 twin 138 for fargo), 134, +10 fumo and rudder
anyone knows eva and luck on CM bosses
sweet delta
100 and 0
atomic abyss
what kinda crack is that fargo on 
spring bolt
probably aux issue, twin 138.6 is like way too strong
storm heron
is there a way to keep michita at 49% hp
cobalt rapids
Start manual when she reaches that threshold
sweet delta
Why keep her at 49% and not 4.9%
viscid swift
unfortunately hiding behind an island is not a strat in AL
cobalt rapids
Depends on fight
tropic tusk
is this good?
viscid swift
for J class DDs yes
spring bolt
basically all AL skill kits doesn't support the "lower health higher attack" style, and a glass cannon with that style is even more... dangerous with not much fun
forest palm
it's always funny when they give a PR/DR a mechanic they think would be interesting, then just remove it because it was more of a hindrance to the ships overall performance with FS 
storm heron
basically all AL skill kits doesn't support the "lower health higher attack" sty...
I can't even think of anyway in the future they could make her get value
forest palm
they do what I said, they just magically remove the restriction ,and stipulation, and she'll get the full buff via fate sim changes
sweet delta
She already has value. Unless you mean end endgame value, in which case haha gold ship without buff or heal
storm heron
Maybe they can add augment for her that heals like 2% every second that activates forever when she is below the threshold 
but alright then gonna continue raising her just for QE meta
storm heron
I found this on the web
where is this btw?
cobalt rapids
on the web
spring bolt
it's not public?
cobalt rapids
Yea my fav ytuber
storm heron
somebody said that prydwen tier list ranks stuff based on content, but then I don't find prydwen azur lane
vale spindle
prydwen doesnt do azur lane
boreal wagon
did the joke actually fly over all of your guyses head or
vale spindle
sorry, this channel is not meant for jokesters and i am also not the best at joke detection
storm heron
Hamaal joked about it being sourced trust me bro but then why did suchi sent it and why did it makes sense, that's why I asked lol
boreal wagon
calling it a "joke" may have been wrong but u get the idea
spring bolt
trust me bro or not, i am only seeing a small part of it, i want to see all of it
sweet delta
I'm under NDA 
arctic flower
How and where do I get Trento?
cobalt rapids
Merit shop
arctic flower
Is she a map drop?
cobalt rapids
Dont think so
sweet delta
I don't think any merit shop ships besides bulins are obtainable elsewhere , is that correct thinking?
arctic flower
I'm just trying to get her Guns for historical builds
cobalt rapids
I don't think any merit shop ships besides bulins are obtainable elsewhere , is ...
Theres some counter examples
storm heron
I don't think any merit shop ships besides bulins are obtainable elsewhere , is ...
somebody asked that in the ectl
arctic flower
Yea I'm wondering if she's a map drop in archives?
storm heron
also the proposed solution
So Trento is merit-only apprently, as seen in the Trento wiki page
eager mulch
somebody asked that in the ectl
spying on us ectl folk
storm heron
eager mulch
jaunty glade
avp fate sim or work on chesire or izumo?
viscid swift
I don't think any merit shop ships besides bulins are obtainable elsewhere , is ...
That is not correct thinking
spring bolt
i mean, isn't doy, kgv, u37 60 runs reward from WA and 20k merits
storm heron
is this available or is it another nda?
viscid swift
It's incomplete so I probably won't release it since I have no real intention of finishing it for now
zenith heron
Is there anyway to do fix assets on the updating part of the game? Am stuck on the "Checking for updates" or should I just redownload?
sweet delta
Have you tried turning the game or device off and on again?
zenith heron
Done that, even cleared the cache, even checked my internet, even checked the Google Play Store, still to no Avail
soft raft
Have you tried restarting your phone?
zenith heron
Done that too
soft raft
Sounds like that's now something for #tech-support then
eternal moth
Are you playing on EN or JP? JP had a PlayStore update
I think it was non-essential, but you might want to check for any applicable updates
fallen verge
just unlocked the shipyard and theres a notification that i cant find the source of
any ideas?
eager mulch
haven’t selected a ship for development probs if you just unlocked it
fallen verge
also i dont fully understand how im supposed to pick someone to develop
humble perch
How good is "Chest full of treasure"?
eager mulch
big button right there develop, unlocks the missions on the right that when completed allows you to obtain the ship
fallen verge
says i havent finished pre task
eager mulch
text above the big button that says develop, have you done that
fallen verge
ohh, got confused because all other ships just had a lock instead of the develop button
tropic tusk
u have to click it and there will be a timer on the right side saying when they unlock
forest palm
eager mulch
tropic tusk
is this good?
soft raft
Niche
dreamy blade
what level should i raise a ship to before it's safe to bring them to w12 to grind
soft raft
I usually wait until they're like lvl 100
maybe lvl 90 if I'm using Unicorn to hypercarry the team
sharp socket
90 if no healer is what i do
dreamy blade
would that change if youre leveling a vanguard vs main fleet ship
forest palm
90 if no healer is what i do
depending on the ship you can go lower than that w/o a healer
sharp socket
not really, just gear them decently
dreamy blade
i was planning to just slap defensive auxes on them since i assume they wont be doing any dmg
sharp socket
yes thats what you should be using
soft raft
^
Even outside of just lvl farming
Washing machine + Toolbox for cruisers and double toolbox for DDs is more worthwhile than offenisve auxes
dreamy blade
yeah thats what i usually do but i moreso mean for main fleet
sharp socket
my chao ho used this and lived from lv90 no healer
dreamy blade
toolbox on cruisers? is that only if no healer, i have naval camo/steering instead
forest palm
toolboxes are always a nice general pick
dreamy blade
ah i thought it was generally stack hp on dd and stack eva on cruisers
forest palm
HP, and EVA all factor into a Cruiser living, or dying
sharp socket
1 hp aux and 1 eva aux is what i default to on a cruiser
DDs have more eva so double hp aux works
dreamy blade
guess i need more toolboxes i only gave watarase 1 bc she has an eva buff
sharp socket
because im stingy with my aux plates i sometimes do double +6 toolbox or just 1 toolbox + 1 offensive aux on DDs and it still works for leveling
forest palm
if you were to look at any old players depot you'd see a lot of toolboxes, myself included 
dreamy blade
yeah my issue is not having enough plates to level all the auxes i want
forest palm
that happens early on, then you start to level out, and you gain more than you spend
sharp socket
you will have that problem of not enough purple aux plates for a while 
unless you’re a hardcore gear swapper then maybe not
dreamy blade
yes and i even ran out of blues, ive been focusing my purple plates to level gold steam catas and the bb shells from proto shop
leaden garden
does operation siren drain mood?
forest palm
nope you don't lose morale, nor gain affection
dreamy blade
no but you still get the exp bonus from having 120+ morale
leaden garden
thank you
eager mulch
opsi doesn’t affect morale but morale affects opsi 
dreamy blade
when i have a lot of time i'll run 12-4 until my ships hit 120 morale and then swap to opsi and grind there until they recover
leaden garden
no but you still get the exp bonus from having 120+ morale
does combat data collecter also collect exp from opsi??
dreamy blade
that i do not know 
soft raft
does combat data collecter also collect exp from opsi??
yes but OpSi XP is so miniscule that it's debateable wheter or not it's worth switching your OpSi mob team to contribute
dreamy blade
yeah opsi exp is pretty bad but i still need the exploration stars and such so i'd rather be efficient about it
instead of taking my fleet of 120 ships to clear out the lv84 maps
viscid swift
would that change if youre leveling a vanguard vs main fleet ship
nothing really, that pretty much represent my usual 12-1 set up
left cedar
⏲️ 
sweet delta
people dare recommend oxytorps in gph?
viscid swift
I have been warming up to them as of late I must admit
eager mulch
nothing really, that pretty much represent my usual 12-1 set up
done leveling amagi-chan?
dreamy blade
i dont know what im looking at besides that my gear is nowhere near this level
viscid swift
Yes
eager mulch
you didn’t give her chips yet
viscid swift
and she won't for a long time at this rate
storm heron
yeah opsi exp is pretty bad but i still need the exploration stars and such so i...
I only find opsi exp gain useful when I can level 3 125-worth ships from 120
sweet delta
I find opsi exp useful when I have chips
covert sable
Anyone have Owari’s Halloween skin, I can figure out where to touch for her special touch animation?
wind hazel
check pin on #al-general
covert sable
Thanks
frank pulsar
gone until rerun next year(?)
usually during black friday they rerun skins but since shes so new shes prob only gonna start appearing next year
*when this event itself reruns the skins should rerun as well
idr if theres any other events that rerun skins
vale spindle
Limited skins going away are mentioned in patch notes
*the patch notes posted on al official en website
forest palm
it's been on every patch note since forever ago
storm heron
I was hesitating too since I heard she didn't have a voice
misty tree
Is York2 projected to be the rerun after Sushi?
forest palm
possibly
grizzled sundial
I was hesitating too since I heard she didn't have a voice
She have , but different VA.
forest palm
Is York2 projected to be the rerun after Sushi?
Operation Convergence is sort of a lose end, and got skipped over for Musashi's event, if they choose not to rerun it the next to reruns will be Yorkii, and Implacable if nothing changes
soft raft
I was hesitating too since I heard she didn't have a voice
she's got two voice presets, one for her old VA (who will most likely never come back to voice lines in this game) and one for her current one
If you want to know why, go Google Ai Kayano
languid reef
is there an event shop faq for these somewhere?
eager mulch
In the datamine
languid reef
In the datamine
thank you 👍
didnt know what that means
storm heron
that means we mine data
eager mulch
that means we mine data
do you pronounce it as data or data?
thorn tartan
are we in a off week?
viscid swift
yes
thorn tartan
maybe it's time to work on W15
elfin hollow
Hello all 🙂 I have a dumb question that may be simple. If I want to get NC bunny skin but says coming soon, what does that mean?
eager mulch
its currently unavailable
plain saffron
Wait for black friday
fallow sedge
Best exp farm map
soft raft
Best exp farm map
W12 is the most efficent
Namely 12-1 and 12-4
plain saffron
Best exp farm map
11-1 best exp per oil
12-1 best exp per oil that can drop cog chips
elfin hollow
Wait for black friday
It will be back on Black Friday? I am new still to the game so forgive me
fallow sedge
Unzen does so much dmg always my mvp but I always wonder what is her main dmg source? Torps? guns?
eager mulch
mix of torps and guns and barrages
raw swift
hello, can someone suggest me who should i pick in UR pool, I already have NJ, Vanguard, Alsace, Amagi CV and Mogador 
eager mulch
shinano
oak bone
whats the best way for grinding affinity?
viscid swift
grinding
spring bolt
it just ended, last event t5 has 20 oil cap for mob
rancid mural
Will muashi construction be 1500 gold per?
viscid swift
yes
rancid mural
So need to somehow carve up 225k gold, any tips
eager mulch
grind
viscid swift
farm 12-1 or 12-4
eager mulch
buy coins
forest palm
why does that not sound right
viscid swift
Resources should look something like that
rancid mural
That's so much gold lol
forest palm
UR reruns should need 234k because of the 44 tickets 
stark quiver
you guys do 3 pulls a day for reruns with tickets every day yea?
forest palm
1 to 3 pulls per day, dump all on the last ya
if you wanna maximize you're cube gain ofc
wind hazel
3 daily
stark quiver
btw abt actual ur evrnts, not rerun, do you do 3 pulls a day? and then spend all last day if u dont get UR?
viscid swift
no I go all in day 1
wind hazel
day 1 dump until get UR
stark quiver
yea i js unga bunga first 5 minute, cba to wait
forest palm
we're meta players here, get the UR day 1 and work on it
soft raft
^
more notably, we have the cubes to afford to go all in
wind hazel
you're meta player, i am a gambling addict, we're not the same
rancid mural
Lol well cubes are the easy part
viscid swift
people who say coins are the hard part don't grind enough
wind hazel
yes, if you have oil, you haven't grind
rancid mural
I'm stuck on 11-1 
stark quiver
at least it isnt 11-3
rancid mural
I've been playing for a full week now
stark quiver
thats actually good then
rancid mural
Shamefur dispray
storm heron
11-1 is just worse than 12-1 because you can't level bb with bad auxes
rancid mural
I don't know what I'm doing and just brute force it 
wind hazel
1 week 11-1 is good progress
storm heron
is it pure f2p?
wind hazel
does it matter
stark quiver
prolly not, but who cares lol
thx for keeping the game f2p
storm heron
Oh I see, was just curious, I guess that doesn't matter
eager mulch
i lost my f2p card long ago
slim dawn
Should i get a second tenrai or drake gun?
soft raft
Tenrai
sharp socket
i dont know how i can get more than coin soft cap and stay there, do i have to go less on research
wind hazel
you have to ask yourself what are you spending your coin on beforehand
calculate the daily expenses, then calculate how much grinding you need to maintain a net positive
if you're still coining shipyard ships for example, then your expenses are more than people who have completed it.
so either grind more or reduce those expenses
jaunty vault
tldr grind more 
sharp socket
im using all my oil income except for mail oil
sweet delta
Cutting spending means you can go over soft cap but then going over soft cap means you lose merchant coins so then you have to cut spending even more
sharp socket
my napkin math tells me i should gain 10k coins a day after research + coining
which is also mostly consistent, except im also cogging ships
...ah i think i know why im not able to go over soft cap now
steel lava
Is Houshou Meta good for a beginner?
sweet delta
Worse than bad
ancient socket
There are definitely better options that would be more useful for late game content.
soft raft
Purely tech fodder
Hell id prob even use Long Island over Houshou META since it's at least easier to raise Long Island's skills for a complete newbie compared to META skills
spring bolt
even worse than og houshou for late game, at least og houshou can help with ijn exp grind 
storm heron
is houshou meta taking 5 gold books?
then how is taking an academy slot for long island is more okay than just popping 4 purple books and playing the game normally
forest palm
SSR use T3, SR use T2
storm heron
i dont know how i can get more than coin soft cap and stay there, do i have to g...
tbh if you get the average luck on the banner instead of the spark, you saved more than 150k coins. I sparked like 4 times, with all those coins I could have get 2 pr 6 dr ships, or reset cat 13 times, or just using up all of my SR bulins and meta lbs
forest palm
Although it is a touch fucky as older SR Meta still use T3 books, but newer ones use T2
spring bolt
mail storage is a thing now so no need to worry about coins too much, and hording coins isn't as important
just don't use storage coin in daily farming and buy trade license
fallow sedge
How to fight a meta boss weaker than level 15
spring bolt
find a beacon lower than 15
your own? you can't. lv15 gives more pt anyway so no need to worry
ancient socket
Well, at some point you can't because they just get harder.
You can't choose what level they are.
barren tapir
Hell id prob even use Long Island over Houshou META since it's at least easier t...
that wouldnt be why i'd use LI over houshoum tbh...real reason is she's easier to enhance for a newb, metas need their mats and stuff
sweet delta
Id resort to LI over Houshoum because houshoum is shit and oil-expensive, end of story 
ancient socket
Worth mentioning OpSi itself isn't so... beginner too.
But I think Blaster didn't mean it literally. He basically just meant to say that probably most of the other ships are better options.
spring bolt
ok i guess we should not use CM as test bench mark anymore... there are some kind of tweaks for CM bosses that we don't know...
tried harby and bayard is way better in dps than mainz
sweet delta
maybe because strength makes bayard low hp?
dusk maple
Did they finally fix the bugs of all the CM bosses?
spring bolt
that buff is only 15% damage, but bayard is like doing 80% of mainz in CM to 180% of mainz in harby
that shameful drake is lv125 while bayard is lv120 btw
sweet delta
any crossfleets?
somehow even though they have roughly equal AA, bayard is getting all the credit
spring bolt
musa alsace bis2 soy amagi guam
they all used 134 btw
you're right, let me remove aa gun and try again
crimson glacier
so what makes bayand dmg so different
spring bolt
it's just CM boss being weird, bayard doing very low damage over there but doing much better in other contents
crimson glacier
i see
spring bolt
no aa gun, bayard is indeed taking a lot of AA damage to herself, now she only does 143% of mainz
atomic abyss
That's very interesting
spring bolt
will try meta tomorrow and see how it goes
storm heron
no aa gun, bayard is indeed taking a lot of AA damage to herself, now she only d...
damage so small
how is fargo dealing 1 million and still stayed alive
atomic abyss
how is fargo dealing 1 million and still stayed alive
Because Fargo is against CM
atomic abyss
no aa gun, bayard is indeed taking a lot of AA damage to herself, now she only d...
This is Harbi
spring bolt
yeah i just used 3 research ships in harby so we don't need to deal with siren damage buff difference
anyway, the point is, something is off with CM boss
frank pulsar
no aa gun, bayard is indeed taking a lot of AA damage to herself, now she only d...
bayard better than drake?
unique lantern
anything good here i can skill up without it being red? im completely dry on offensive books
atomic abyss
You could just, use blue books for red skills