gameplay-help

[deep solstice]

is it just never worth actually using them? should i just convert all combat data pack i have to cores? even from different series?

[rapid grail]

quick question, who among the tempestas are good for a niche?

[atomic abyss]

fancy as an opsi tank, amity for debuffs galore in w14

[eternal basalt]

XP farm takes a LOooooot shorter than getting prints to FS5/D30

[rapid grail]

huh, how did fancy become a tank for opsi

can she survive stronghold

[atomic abyss]

how about higher eHP than some CBs

[glass basin]

so if I don't have any ordnance reports which plane do I craft

[barren tapir]

fancy is anywhere from 120% to 146% ehp (33/33/33 split dmg types iirc) depending on aux setup. she's good enough to use

[atomic abyss]

nothing

[eternal basalt]

Better wait for ordance reports

[barren tapir]

number may be slightly off i am recalling mebot number from memory

[atomic abyss]

you only need enough flapjacks for your 2 fleets

[rapid grail]

surprised w/ fancy... Anyone else? Or just them

[atomic abyss]

just them

[rapid grail]

Aight. Will read skills soon™️

[eternal basalt]

And support fleet in w15

[barren tapir]

simply enough, fancys skill 2 is extremely extremely strong and if she wasnt tempesta it would really be over the top

[glass basin]

I need ordnance reports of spearfish and twin 457

[atomic abyss]

now THAT is a waste of ordinance reports

spearfish is also a waste of ordinance reports

[glass basin]

how many do I need in total for chapter 13 onwards
I don't know how many cvs is needed to clear

[eternal basalt]

Good thing I got those things in spades

[atomic abyss]

4-6 flapjacks shd be more than enough

depending on the specific carriers used

[glass basin]

yeah I'm thinking about illustrous which has 2 fighter slots...

[atomic abyss]

illustrious will not be used in your 2 main fleets

unless you somehow have nothing better

[glass basin]

so I guess for fighters, flapjack is nobrainer best for main story, hvar is best vs light, la9 best vs midheavy, and bf109 is poverty option

[hollow gust]

The more endgame gear you have the more reliable your comp is , that's not a waste

[glass basin]

you'd be surprised when I show you my poverty roster

[atomic abyss]

i wouldnt call bf109g a poverty option when its literally the only easily accesible one

[glass basin]

filled with prehistoric pre 2021 ships

illustrous is surprisingly one of my more decent options with high aa

[hollow gust]

Poverty option for people who didn't grind HVAR , or have LA-9s

[eternal basalt]

LA-9's are not in easy supply

[glass basin]

cries in event fomo and 10/60 la9 prints

eventually we'll get 1 for free kekw

[atomic abyss]

well, you need more than just high AA

if your damage is potato its kinda pointless too

and if your roster is truly poverty or 2021 era

then anything beyond w13 will probably need significant work

[glass basin]

I'm using illustrous augmented as a poverty volga atm
and yeah once musashi here maybe I can put her in mob (actually might be a bit luxurious, fdg prolly could do)

[atomic abyss]

you could yes

[atomic abyss]

guy was literally complaining about his lack of ord reports
flapjacks for support fleet isnt as high prio

[eternal basalt]

But I didn't

[atomic abyss]

but yeah there's 0 reason to even rush campaign past w12

[glass basin]

shoot I prolly need a healer for boss fleet

no volga no ryuhou no aquilla

[soft raft]

not really for most of campaign

[atomic abyss]

you only need healer for boss in like w15

[soft raft]

at most maybe W15 boss
but otherwise, you're doing something V E R Y wrong if you're thinking of that

[glass basin]

can agir solo tank w14 boss at dev 30

[atomic abyss]

[glass basin]

well, assuming non-potato dps

[soft raft]

she already got all of her bulk at D25
She also came out at like the same time as W14

[eternal basalt]

" solo tank "
Why?

[viscid swift]

I have no idea what that means

[atomic abyss]

why would you even use a "solo" tank

use a full fleet

[soft raft]

solo tank wont mean shit if your vang doesnt have enough DPS and your backline gets smoked as a result

[eternal basalt]

Agir has crap AA DPS, your main will drop long before her

[glass basin]

Maybe I need to reword
Is agir tanky enough as the primary tank at dev 30

[atomic abyss]

she is literally the 2nd tankiest ship in the game

[viscid swift]

you can't make her any tankier than that so yes

[atomic abyss]

if anything the question falls on the rest of the comp, not agir herself

[eternal basalt]

She has no FS5

[atomic abyss]

also this

[stoic tulip]

will janus, albion, and manchester get a special rate up? or just straight to permanent pool?

[atomic abyss]

perma w/o rate up

[eternal basalt]

D30 means fleet tech though

[glass basin]

I was like her evasion is pretty bad and one or 2 unlucky hits after and she get chucked half hp

[viscid swift]

no rate ups for additions to the perma pool anymore

[viscid swift]

have you read her skills at all

[stoic tulip]

dang, maybe that means wishing well is more valued now

[viscid swift]

looked at her HP pool, or her armor type

[eternal basalt]

All archives work like this now btw

[atomic abyss]

this has been the case for over 2 years

[soft raft]

It's not really that much more valueable considering that 99% of the time, wishing well is at the same time as a UR event and the latter is much more higher prio for your cubes than a bunch of perma ships that're gonna be event pool filler anyways one way or another

[eternal basalt]

Shinano isn't perm for 2 years

[soft raft]

For CN/JP yeah
but EN kept doing WA Rateups until like Shinano+NJ WA

and we were always behind on one WA as a result until then

[eternal basalt]

Until Shinano

[viscid swift]

**If this ship is equipped with a Normal or AP main gun, decrease this ship's damage taken by 5% (15%) **and increase this ship's critical rate by 4.5% (12%).
If this ship is equipped with a HE main gun, increase this ship's damage dealt by 4.5% (12%), but her main gun loses the ability to ignite enemies.
If this ship is equipped with a high-caliber main gun (280mm or higher), increase this ship's main gun efficiency by 4.5% (12%)

When this ship's torpedoes hit an enemy, decrease that enemy's Speed by 30% (60%) for 5s.** As long as this ship is not Out of Ammo, increase this ship's EVA by 5% (15%)**

[stoic tulip]

I mean, wishing well could still be a thing for completionists and if you have either spare cubes or great luck. If you get the UR early, you can straight up roll to catch up on any missing ships

[eternal basalt]

And EN gets WW with their anni, no UR

[soft raft]

yes that does make sense, but only if they have the cubes to spare
I generally dont really reccomend WW for newer/midgame players because saving cubes for URs is more important and worthwhile for their account, esp if they have less than 400 cubes

[eternal basalt]

We were still one behind till we FINALLY got the z2 event

One year after JP/CN, 6 months after Shinano

[eternal basalt]

Shinano was january 2024, so it's less than a year

[atomic abyss]

oh

im confusing it with when lite reruns were introduced

[stoic tulip]

on a side note, Albion and Janus are good?

[atomic abyss]

both are decent but nothing special

[soft raft]

nothing too exciting in terms of mainline use

At most Albion is +1 CV AVI tech (And also +2 CV HIT on obtain)

[forest palm]

I believe Albion, and Manchest have good tech, Janus not so much, however there was some cope strats in W14 with Janus, and the J Crown

[keen mural]

I'll have around 300 cubes when musashi event hits, I guess I'll have to skip Collab to get her unless I get lucky right?

[viscid swift]

Manchester sadly does not have good tech

[eternal basalt]

Enough with the tickets

[forest palm]

ah, she's AA tech 🚮

[keen mural]

Oh even UR rerun get free tickets?

[forest palm]

probably thinking of British Enterprise

[forest palm]

you get like 44 tickets for URs

[atomic abyss]

almost every rerun gets free tix nowadays

[eternal basalt]

More than the normal even, 44 vs 32

[stone sluice]

If I have Flasher, Archefish, Albacore and Homura, what are the best 3 for the fishpack?

[keen mural]

Nice, thanks

[viscid swift]

first 3

[stone sluice]

There’s a situation where Homura can be best to use?

[soft raft]

she doesnt really have a place in fishpack

[stone sluice]

[soft raft]

iirc the top Homura comp is with U556M and DaVinci

[stone sluice]

Alright, thank you

[pliant acorn]

Who is the best tank for mob fleet?

[atomic abyss]

for what content

[pliant acorn]

Ops si

[cobalt rapids]

any with 6* except chesh

[elfin hollow]

currently in 14-2 world. Any advice what to use my oil on?`i am so often stuck on 20+k oil, my daily useage doesnt need much

[pliant acorn]

This is my opsi fleet
1,bossing
2,mobing
3,pure bb
4,pure cv

[eternal basalt]

Farm event while you can

[viscid swift]

grind D3 of an event when it's active or when there's not grind 12-1/12-4

both with ships that need levels

[eager mulch]

the pure CV looks bad to me

[elfin hollow]

D3 u mean t6?

[eager mulch]

might just be me though

It’s D3 in most cases, cheeky is just generalizing

[tame jungle]

Perseus on boss duty is it over

[pliant acorn]

Thanks!, btw whats the armor type of the hard boss this month?

[atomic abyss]

med

and yes the CV fleet is v.questionable

[viscid swift]

highest stage which for this event that ends in a few hours is T6

[atomic abyss]

actually all the fleets are questionable

[elfin hollow]

Is Scharnhorst Meta any good?

[pliant acorn]

Lemme fix it and pls rate it, wait

[elfin hollow]

ye its the basic stuff but i feel like i have all the resource on mass. same for this event. i have all the ships already there and bought the weapons+ ships and i dont care for skin boxes

[atomic abyss]

impla is sitting with BBs for some reason

[eager mulch]

im not questioning the bb fleet

[atomic abyss]

no

[eager mulch]

could definitely be better but it works

[soft raft]

Nothing too amazing

[atomic abyss]

impla is a BB now?

[eager mulch]

The bb fleet not the bossing fleet

[viscid swift]

what about the cog chips, arrays, PR blueprints, gold plates from milestone rewards, etc

[atomic abyss]

CV fleet would be way better if implacable replaced perseus

and perseus gets banished into the unknown

[pliant acorn]

Is this better?

[eager mulch]

no slow = your tbs will miss

[atomic abyss]

i would replace york2 with implacable

[elfin hollow]

idk i have so many of those

[atomic abyss]

thats not a lot at all

[pliant acorn]

Thanks thanks

[atomic abyss]

consider that you use 120 t4 plates per gold gear

[viscid swift]

you can never have enough gold plates and those cog chips can disappear very quickly

[elfin hollow]

hmm

[tame jungle]

The pointland of shared experiences

[pliant acorn]

Is the tempesta sub fleet decent or it's just a display faction?

[eternal basalt]

~~Fortunately rerun is chips/cogs without spending any on new ships... ~~

[soft raft]

meme tier off of the fact that they cant submerge at all

[sweet delta]

Testing against raids had homura significantly outperform archerfish. Archerfish would only have a chance on heavy

[pliant acorn]

Last question, is spearfish worth to get?

[atomic abyss]

wyverns are prio

[pliant acorn]

I got 3 of them, should i get more or nah?

[atomic abyss]

nah

[soft raft]

there are other things that're worth spending UR Ords on

Like Tenrai in two months

[eternal basalt]

Watch them invent another item for that

[pliant acorn]

This is my ur's. Should i get more tenrai's for world 15?

[deep solstice]

aight just to make sure, i analyze all combat data packs and turn them into proto cores yes?

[eager mulch]

that would be a good idea

[stark quiver]

nah youll be fine
but you might wanna get a third one just for the 3 sakura cv

and so much +12

[cloud panther]

How to have that many gold augments

[elfin hollow]

idk

[jaunty glade]

yo so these UR rerun events, is it 1 week only and a 200 pull pity system? do you get free rolls?

assuming to all 3?

ty!

[stone sluice]

Best auxiliaries for the fishpack subs?

[cloud panther]

Fish pack

[sweet delta]

Double oxytorp if double type 95kai
Else oxy hull or oxy snorkel depending on boss, no big difference

[stone sluice]

Thank you

[sweet delta]

Snorkel hull for the highest floor but usually lower average

[stone sluice]

What if no 95kai but bidder or G7e?
Oxy aux yes or yes?

[sweet delta]

That's covered by the "Else" part

[slim anvil]

should i keep all the characters with purple rarity or up?

[stark quiver]

Go ahead, if u wanna

[cobalt rapids]

for dock start scrapign the easiest ships to aquire starting with commons, blues and then purples and if ure rly hurting for golds
keep in mind alot of lower rarity ships provide good tech

[slim anvil]

i am level 80 with 160 slots but im always full it there a way to increase without pay?

[cobalt rapids]

theres gems for f2p

[slim anvil]

i have 2638 from story

[cobalt rapids]

3 dorm slots, 2nd floor then put the rest in dockspace

[slim anvil]

where is second floor

ho i see

but why spend there?

[upbeat wagon]

So you have 6 dorms slots

[cobalt rapids]

morale regen for ur ships
3 slots on 1st floor + 3 slots on 2nd floor ( mirrored from 1st floor ) are enough for a full fleet

[upbeat wagon]

And can recover morale for ur entire fleet

[slim anvil]

i see i though it was only usefull to get xp

[upbeat wagon]

Is there any way to get 2nd floor without expanding dorm

[cobalt rapids]

nope

[cobalt rapids]

the passive xp is the ignorable part of dorm
unless ure quite inactive

[upbeat wagon]

😭

[slim anvil]

i see thanks

its says the second floor its only for deco

[upbeat wagon]

No

[cobalt rapids]

yea its a mistranslation/ bad description

[stark quiver]

Games misleading for that

[viscid swift]

Read #bot-spam /gems

[slim anvil]

thanks for all the help

[upbeat wagon]

Any tactic for grinding decor tokens

[cobalt rapids]

do comms

[slim anvil]

i will

[cobalt rapids]

u aswell yes

[upbeat wagon]

Should i be researching roon or saint louis

[cobalt rapids]

roon for fdg tech

[upbeat wagon]

I have a single iron blood ship in my fleet

This will take a while

[cobalt rapids]

what chapter are u on

[upbeat wagon]

What does that mean

[tropic tusk]

main story where are u

[cobalt rapids]

in campaign ur progress

[upbeat wagon]

6.4

[cobalt rapids]

dw about prgrinding till u reach ch12

[upbeat wagon]

I couldve pushed to 7 but i started leveling up helena and portland instead

[cobalt rapids]

u can start sanrui and let her get passive xp tho but focus on pushing or well grinding event rn if u still ahve to

[tropic tusk]

at the mean time click on wht u can so u can start the timer to unlock the requirement

[upbeat wagon]

Is the 60 clear worth it

[cobalt rapids]

which 60 clear? war archives? not really
i meant current running event

[upbeat wagon]

No the current event

[cobalt rapids]

theres a 60 clear

[upbeat wagon]

Clear 60 stages quest

[tropic tusk]

there is a 60 clear?

[cobalt rapids]

oh it gives pts? i mean ull prob do it passively anyway for milestone and shop

hopefully u reached at least t5

[tropic tusk]

wt is the 60 clear tho

[upbeat wagon]

I havent tried t5 much but it was too hard i think

[tropic tusk]

oh didnt know theres that mission lol

[upbeat wagon]

I tried it like once

[tropic tusk]

dont forget to read the story if im not wrong they give things also

[cobalt rapids]

whats ur fleet

[upbeat wagon]

@cobalt rapids

[cobalt rapids]

yea that looks good
just needs more lvls and limitbreaks

[haughty current]

im 6'3

[inland shoal]

[gaunt bison]

alright so, my standard pity is at 395 and I was wondering if there is a reason to get new jersey or shinano, otherwise I'm getting ulrich for the iron blood fleet tech (already have shimakaze)

[soft osprey]

Is Houshou META good (got her skills maxxed out aready)?

[cobalt rapids]

shinano is the best ship to get from perma banner

[tame jungle]

houshou meta is only good for lv120 tech

[cobalt rapids]

good for rld tech

[soft osprey]

elaborate

idk what that is

[eager mulch]

the only good thing she provides is the +1 cv rld when she hits level 120, outside of that she’s bad

[soft osprey]

well, that 10 books wasted.

on the topic of ashens, are any of the 3 on the meta shop good?

[eager mulch]

only good for their tech same as houshou meta

[soft osprey]

so only good support?

[eager mulch]

.

[soft osprey]

well, at least it's collection

[fathom sable]

Which SSes i should raise and use?

[cobalt rapids]

37 81 and 101 or use leo for better but extra 2 bulin cost or stick to 101 till 96 is in medal rotation

[viscid swift]

Archerfish, Da Vinci, Albacore/Nautilus?

[sweet delta]

Musashi rerun tomorrow?

[cobalt rapids]

next week

[sweet delta]

I thought tomorrow is next week

[crimson glacier]

its fucked up world out there

[crude loom]

How's this team so far?

[viscid swift]

bad

[crude loom]

Oh

[soft raft]

Non-D30 research ship moment

[sweet delta]

It'll farm chapter 12 without problems but unicorn is kinda wasting exp

[crude loom]

I kinda need Unicorn for healing, as I'm currently leveling up Sandy

[eternal moth]

Uni and Soyuz are fine if they're MLB, it's some of the others that are problems. Sandy without a retro is bad, non-MLB PR ships aren't good

[soft raft]

Do you not have XP books

[dreamy blade]

is it worth it to grind out another 9k points just for the gold plates from milestone rewards

[crude loom]

Not really, no

[eternal moth]

That Soyuz probably isn't MLB either, is she? Looks to be only 5 star, not 6

[crude loom]

No, but I only need one more rainbow Bulin

[viscid swift]

then find someone else to level in the meantime and be more diligent about prepping stuff for leveling in future

[crude loom]

Gotcha

[soft raft]

(As a side note for the future, dont MLB a UR until you can afford to MLB in one go (IE 4 bullins))

[viscid swift]

by which I mean you shoud have stuff ready to go for leveling and still a few thousand XP books on hand

[crude loom]

Noted....though, I also have two other URs that only need one more star

[soft raft]

Bruh

no wonder, you spread out your UR Bullins as well

[crude loom]

Ye....

I recently MLB'd Bismarck Zwei and New Jersey

[crisp tree]

Y spread out bulins

[tame jungle]

don't spread out your bulins

[soft raft]

because people dont know any better

[crude loom]

Bad decision making at the time

In any case, is there any ships recommended for the fleet that I'm attempting to build?

[soft raft]

first post your dock in a thread so we have an actual idea of who you have

[tame jungle]

what are you even building for

[crude loom]

Kk, gimmie a sec

[tame jungle]

images jumpscare!

[sweet delta]

150 dock space jumpscare

[crude loom]

Ye, sorry, I couldn't think of a better way to post my whole dock...

[tame jungle]

create thread first then post them there

[soft raft]

this is why you do this stuff in a thread
that way you dont clog the main chat

[crude loom]

Ah, gotcha

[left nest]

since we're getting a musashi rerun, should i invest my ur bulins into musashi or akagi first?

[cobalt rapids]

if u mean amagi then it depends on ur other URs

[left nest]

amagi sry

i'll share a ss of my UR's in a sec, doing daily hard run rn

[eager mulch]

no ur akagi yet buddy

[cobalt rapids]

musashi ig
uh im not sure get a 2nd opinion

[tame jungle]

2nd 🧅

[ancient socket]

I'd say Musashi aswell, then you can go for Amagi CV.

[tame jungle]

i'd also pick

[left nest]

[storm heron]

I would pick musashince haku and shina is good enough for nwo

[stark quiver]

I’d get warspite to 120 for tech

[storm heron]

I would get alsace to 125

[forest palm]

that Hit Tech on Corgi is nice

only thing she's useful for

[undone siren]

For a triple BB team, what combo would be best out of Sovetsky, Alsace, Musashi and Zwei, or would it be down to armour type/specific enemy?

[stark quiver]

Soyuz Alsace zwei works for most situations

[slow rain]

are any of the new pirate ship girls good? Just recently came back to playing this game

gotcha

[eternal moth]

I thought they said Fancy was decent

[weary gust]

Decent is the key word there though.

[stark quiver]

None of them have a use in current AL meta
Ehhhhh, fancy I guess but like I wouldn’t pull for her

[storm heron]

yea fancy can do when have core data

decent but not good enough

[trim sparrow]

Does maryland kai want flag?

[stark quiver]

She doesn’t have any special flag skills, but depends on fleet prolly

[trim sparrow]

Got it. Right on

[inland shoal]

I mean her big 7 barrage isn't centered, so...

[trim sparrow]

What kind of gear does Eldridge want? Just leveling her in the event

[undone plover]

like any other DD rly
double HP aux
one of these guns
mag torps

[trim sparrow]

K thanks

[marsh bison]

Guys

How do i speedrun retrofit javelin and Portland

And unicorn too

[left cedar]

u dont speed run them, cuz u cant ... its time gated, u have to w8 dailly to do Hard Mode in campaign, and have to get luck into Guild Shop in Monday and Friday

[weary gust]

Run your hardmode stages every day. 3* hardmode stages for prints.

[atomic abyss]

as esdeath said, it is timegated
no way to rush them really

[tame jungle]

Diligence paves the path to victory

[atomic abyss]

at best an opsi tank

she will take an absolute shit ton from planes

[left cedar]

according to MeBot maths, she wont ... she its considerable chonky if the maths its correct
something like 134%

[tame jungle]

I think mebot’s calculation also suggested a decrease in tankiness in high-pressure situations (so situations where you’d actually need the extra chonk)

#al-general message

[stark idol]

Hi, An shan missile only works for backline?

[viscid swift]

no

they work in vanguard node as well

[stark idol]

I have never seen her fire it

[haughty dust]

is the following weapon worth crafting and also which URshould I use my UR bulin to MLB next? UvH?

[eager mulch]

its very fast and easy to miss

[eager mulch]

no, amagi probably

[stark idol]

Yes but her alone? I tried sending her alone and payed close attention and I didn't saw it, and the ships she attacked only received dmg from her main gun

[eager mulch]

its very fast and easy to miss

[haughty dust]

What about that gun I posted is it worth crafting?

[eager mulch]

no

[haughty dust]

@atomic abyss or anyone is it worth now substituting someone out for Vanguard in my operation siren fleets or is she not good for that? I forget what you said.

[atomic abyss]

who were you using

[haughty dust]

Give me just a moment

This is what you made up for me last time:

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4RgBgZjAWCA0soXgsYBMawDZZrY4Dsuik8WiARMQCYCGTz1SAugsAKwSRgCcCfl35khZTOXxooKRPxy9ekhLS7MW7TpEkAOQTFSJYXOPNNii5BfP5gYaWo2bEGrWGw4hIxaIMzEZuh2OCHkBOFo-HaQujT0zpoe2hDEmJiCYMRQhLrwiJi4ZJEl6KkQ6fGuGm5awJJkUJnZuUGFxegRnYq%2Blar0NbW4nuheILDREDwIspDGpoRFEOQ8heSk5EZU-YlJXjpT-ulx6Fg40oh562IH206D7l4oMPzyEK-zQcJ4BV1ZN1sVPcao8xnEeChOjlEFB0osOh0sACyHcBiC6pBTL4oWhYBhLEtEIi1mUUUC0RpHpwJq8VHBoTM4QVCQgOlAuCdIGT4rsmKwuCMwGNgDSpsYIp94ct0KsbhsypRybzaslwBVDgh0phOWcpF0ruh5bclQ86s8BMYULiFuYfpq-kbATzTR4wWLIXZljCmZqWcTkcpnejVZisvI5sZ8cyEdKkZtuTsXV5RSpPdLYdho9K2Rz44HE%2BiBRwhZxvLxTJG7SY2rguIQulYynwTYWnrxdDcKJKs4guCpG3wKuTdNU9pxJJUYV2EH3zg2HQCUKjdEmxqKxLBAjcwjNdHJujCbGVesOk5wUL4Tpu7QIglBdJmD0%2BfEP4ivg09JtNr2Imgz74%2BcA4H85R9LQ76UuwxbCnwFZIFGSA2r6da-PWijNkGkECue7adkYiE1h0faoZsOjDqOfJ1BOkhTvhs56mh6yKEup4uCqIzjJMcqwHSO6wHEwGCZsJ5vmewAXhAJwAaEd57rGfwgSJ-QQWO4lfjCcmHv%2BmnPopr7KauoxsAAhBAAB0qTGTxBCYAwdBAA

[atomic abyss]

she would replace friederich

[haughty dust]

ok

[atomic abyss]

friederich goes to mob and replaces saratoga

[haughty dust]

same gear as FDG?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[haughty dust]

woops I forgot to screenshot Saratoga before I switched. What was her gear again? I also accidentally had it save it.

[haughty dust]

wait a minute I just realized FDG is not the same ship type as Saratoga and you had two loadouts for FDG. So any thoughts on redoing gear between those two characters?

[wind hazel]

it's for light armor enemy vs med/heavy enemy

[atomic abyss]

do you have this

[haughty dust]

Since you had two versions of fleet 2. This is current refactor progress and no not yet. I am 5 away from crafting one

[wind hazel]

[atomic abyss]

use that rainbow gun for fdg once you're done

[haughty dust]

This is my current refactor progress forgot to post the image.

[atomic abyss]

until then, stick with the gun you have there

[haughty dust]

Not sure how long that will be but ok, what until then for mob and the two versions of fleet two setup wise should I run for the different armor types?

I just ask since I obviously need to redo those two fleets slightly

realized I also made a mistake with moving FDG

This is the current status:

[wind hazel]

why are the tanks in wrong pos

[haughty dust]

wdym?

[wind hazel]

like agir and unzen swapped, sandy sf swapped

[haughty dust]

well I can never remember which position is which in game. I can swap in here but I will have to make a note of which positions are which. How can you tell which ones are when you set Op Si fleets again or regular formation fleets. I can never remember and need to write it down

[atomic abyss]

they arent

[wind hazel]

wdym they aren't

[stark quiver]

Sandy tanking?

[atomic abyss]

top most is flag for vanguard

not bottom

[wind hazel]

it is not...

1 is tank, 3 is off tank

[atomic abyss]

renhex literally doesnt have labels for flag and non flag

[sharp socket]

ender bottom vg says 1

middle backline says 1 also

[wind hazel]

even mainfleet is wrong, fdg is off flagging

[atomic abyss]

and this is why i hate using renhex

so unintuitive

[haughty dust]

This is the current endgame Fleet formation for operation siren I haven’t switched it yet cause I don’t know who to put where

[stark quiver]

💀

[atomic abyss]

and see?

the fleets are correct anyways

[haughty dust]

see what?

[wind hazel]

on opsi fleet screen, it is

[stark quiver]

Not you

[frank pulsar]

you can slot in vanny over fdg, and move fdg to either fleet 4 or replace sara

[atomic abyss]

which is what i said

[wind hazel]

somehow it turn out correct

[atomic abyss]

because mori

it turns out the average person converts top to bottom as left to right

[frank pulsar]

ouh
i didnt backread

[atomic abyss]

and not whatever stupid arrangement renhex implemented on the fleetmaker

[wind hazel]

[frank pulsar]

renhex arrangement is fine wdym

[sharp socket]

i swear its been like that for the longest time and has always worked

[wind hazel]

this is just user error

[frank pulsar]

ive never had issues with putting the ships in wrong places

[sharp socket]

it just takes left to right from formation screen

[atomic abyss]

lars is somehow less complicated

[stark quiver]

Lars propaganda?

[frank pulsar]

tbf ive been using renhex fleetmaker since day 1 so maybe im used to it

[atomic abyss]

i just dont use it at all

[wind hazel]

renhex fleetmaker is literally this, can't get anymore true than what it is in game lol

[stark quiver]

I type fleets out

[sharp socket]

lars is more comprehensive but renhex can compress my entire w15 main fleets + support + sub into one screenshot

[atomic abyss]

because it displays differently the moment you want to insert stuff into fleets in opsi/HM

[wind hazel]

that's on opsi

[atomic abyss]

and this is an opsi fleet

[haughty dust]

What is the best way to get bps for this? Just research academy rng? I do not want to spend Prototype Core for a bit. Even though I have 7 of 50 left in store I have not claimed.

[wind hazel]

nvm im talking to a wall

[atomic abyss]

protocore

this is exactly what you use protocore for

[haughty dust]

Why is this image so crooked? 🤣

[stark quiver]

That’s cuz he took it that way
Or tilted it

[atomic abyss]

protocore is for exchanging gear

[wind hazel]

it's supposed to illustrate why the tank is labeled as [1] on the fleet maker

[atomic abyss]

there is no other good purpose for it

[haughty dust]

How exactly? How is that even possible? Looks like an photoshop or edit to it.

well even if I did I do not have enough atm

[sharp socket]

how about instead of fighting each other, blame the small indie company for having multiple clashing formation setups

[atomic abyss]

then just use the same purple gun

[haughty dust]

Which research academy cards btw do you have a chance of getting bps for that gun from btw?

[atomic abyss]

series 2

so dont bother

[haughty dust]

just curious is it a specific letter or what to look for. Just for future reference.

[atomic abyss]

it has a chance of appearing in rigging analysis researches for series 2

you wont be doing series 2, hence you wont get them

[haughty dust]

I see. This is what a lot of my current ones are showing that I have researching now.

At least that current character and Brest are both showing a chance of this one

[atomic abyss]

which is correct

this is what you're expected to be encountering

[haughty dust]

so are they not out yet or something?

[mint flint]

after researching pr5 do i move onto pr7 before pr6?

[atomic abyss]

7

[haughty dust]

Yep 7 I am working on unlocking Napoli myself while using research to finish getting bps for PR5

[atomic abyss]

You just wont ever encounter them normally
You have no way of getting the last 5 BP for thr 457 outside protocore without jeopardising your research progress elsewhere

[haughty dust]

So do I have to empty out the shops version first or something and then it should show up?

[atomic abyss]

what

it's literally in protocore shop

[haughty dust]

so after I get rid of the bps in the shop how do you get extra copies?

[atomic abyss]

get all 50 BP there

you dont by research

you just craft it entirely in gear lab

[haughty dust]

ooooohhhh

well what is the best way to get more Protocore, because not getting any dup bps lately in research academy

especially since I am still working on finishing bps for PR5 even though all of PR5 characters are unlocked.

[mint flint]

have you converted all your combat data packs

[haughty dust]

I think so yes

[mint flint]

just be patient, or cash in catch-up on ships you've already completed if you havent used it yet

[haughty dust]

have not gotten any lately

[fiery swan]

Are the tempesta augments limited to the event

[atomic abyss]

craftable at any time

[glacial gull]

Which ship does the Catalina work with ?

[atomic abyss]

cooper

[storm heron]

damn didn't know cooper is a ship

[marble cape]

Hey guys, Best SS's for light armor?

[viscid swift]

Tempesta if you really want to go that far

[atomic abyss]

technically tempestas, but you wont use them as subs for any actually difficult content

you'd just use regular subs

[dreamy blade]

are amity/mary celeste better than purple subs if i dont have the gold cannons for them

my only gold sub is leo

[atomic abyss]

you're better off not using subs at all at that point

[storm heron]

just wait until you have better subs

[dreamy blade]

i cant even clear the lv75 sub weekly

[mint flint]

mary celeste can clear the sub dailies pretty easy

[atomic abyss]

as can amity and RF

[mint flint]

shes not great as an actual sub but you can use her for that purpose

[marble cape]

And the best regulas SS's against light armor are...?

[atomic abyss]

there arent

[dusk maple]

ldv, 556 meta, homura

[marble cape]

*regular (stupid typo)

[mint flint]

discord edit feature:

[atomic abyss]

the fact is almost all their damage is torp oriented

which naturally do not do well against light

it's better to just invest in 1 strong sub fleet and gear them properly

as opposed to swapping them based on enemy armour

yes there are some that may perform slightly better

but thats putting the cart before the horse

[fathom sable]

Who's the one in the middle?

[marble cape]

Got it, thank you man

[dusk maple]

I-19

[uncut willow]

Does Fancy have a significantly lower drop rate than the other Super Rares? I’ve used like 250+ cubes and gotten like 10+ Ganjs, but not a single Fancy

[mint flint]

click on the question mark to view the rates

[uncut willow]

Oh, ty

[atomic abyss]

the short answer is no

and if anything

you were extremely lucky with ganj

[dreamy blade]

rng be like that, i got 2 fancy/3 amity/0 ganj

[frank pulsar]

amity should be the one with lower drop rate since shes available from event shop and a map drop

[atomic abyss]

10 ganj in 250 cubes is above expected odds

[frank pulsar]

ive gotten repeats of everyone except ganji so

[uncut willow]

Huh, so just weird RNG for me, ty, was just frustrated

[dusk maple]

amity is at 0.5% anyway

[fathom sable]

She's there for some reason and no one in the guild put her as a support

[atomic abyss]

[frank pulsar]

i19 isnt exactly a good ship

[uncut willow]

I pulled 1 amity

[fathom sable]

Nvm, it's my guildmate's ship

[forest palm]

[left cedar]

[eager mulch]

[frank pulsar]

[storm heron]

[frank pulsar]

how much gold plate does opsi yield per month
assuming you do enough to clear all icon but dont really have excess ap to dump in c3/c5

[sharp socket]

i believe someone is collecting that currently and it was like 600 plates?

[wind hazel]

that many?

[sharp socket]

but without factoring in AP dumping might be less

since the person that recorded it im p sure farms c1

ah its suchi and faerlein thats collecting it

you can ask them for specifics, i just remember the convo

[spring bolt]

CN research indicates 600-750, but that includes buying AP for c3 farming, guild shop, dailies, weeklies, cruise and guild boss
also i still believe CN data for c1 farming which says c1 does not generate AP

[frank pulsar]

so roughly half to a third of that then, ty

[forest palm]

C1 farming 🚮

[eternal moth]

Do we have any info on the augments yet?

[atomic abyss]

Not here at least

[barren tapir]

c1 does however generate commissions

[sweet delta]

I do

Shiratsuyu torp barrage every 5s

[wind hazel]

TN to T1

neptune?

[eternal moth]

And Neptune?

[sweet delta]

[barren tapir]

hol up is that good

[sweet delta]

20 Eva from augment stat, plus 5% HP barrier for 5s every 10s @slow fox

[barren tapir]

oshit nice

[sweet delta]

Well above Portland ehp then

[eternal moth]

That actually sounds decent

[stark quiver]

pog

[atomic abyss]

Our first CL tank?

[loud cedar]

Man, you guys were right. I was not ready for W13, decided to try it now that I caught up in event points lol

[barren tapir]

glad i can ditch portland once that shows up

[eternal moth]

Triple CV for mob, 2 CV and BB for boss is typically best IMO

[atomic abyss]

She'll actually outtank roon now lmao

[loud cedar]

Yeah, ty. i'll prob try again once I fix the gear and +10 it

[barren tapir]

[eternal moth]

I DEFINITELY wouldn't try with less than +10 gear on everything.

[barren tapir]

oh yeah everything needs to be +10 for w13 and up by default lol

[loud cedar]

Ah, that explains it. My mob fleet died by 5th or 7th mob, couldn't hold out with 2 healers even lol

[sweet delta]

Probably around 130%

[eternal moth]

Probably because having 2 healers means not enough damage

[sweet delta]

🇨🇳 🧱

[stark quiver]

harbin?

[loud cedar]

Ah, i'll try dropping one next attempt

[wind hazel]

yatsen

[sweet delta]

If your fleets have low resolve after losing to the main boss

[atomic abyss]

Chinawall

[stark quiver]

i read chinese brick

[eternal moth]

I did it with Uni, Indep and someone else, probably Enty

Although back then it could have been non-retro Uni and DB Aquila

[barren tapir]

depending on their options enty is probably better saved for the boss, can use sara mob

[eternal moth]

Actually yeah, that's who it was. I think for boss I used NJ, Enty and Haku

[loud cedar]

Ah, well I think it might partly just be a gear issue. I haven't made the adjustments recommended to me last yet orz

Hopefully anyways lol

[forest palm]

we've been out here with Mainz, and Plymouth

[atomic abyss]

I mean dedicated

I guess Nep will be Mainz level at best

But I don't think she's getting any form of damage buff so

[forest palm]

even if the damage amounts to a wet noodle it'll do

[slow fox]

calcing in 20 months

[south sequoia]

Thats... kind of underwhelming

[forest palm]

for a Cruiser 20 EVA is rather nice

[faint cloud]

Is it the same level as ibuki?

[left cedar]

MeGPT Pentium1 processor confirmed

[rapid grail]

what to buy in event store?

[slow fox]

teehee

[forest palm]

check the pinned data mine for store prio

[rapid grail]

ok ill do story sinve event ending in 10 min for jp

[small mountain]

35 FP, 20% crit rate and barrage every 10s

[atomic abyss]

A new barrage?

[barren tapir]

wait what

hold on so

35 fp, 20 eva, 20% crit rate, barrage every 10s, 5% hp shield every 10s???

[faint cloud]

yes it has barrage

[atomic abyss]

And I'm guessing it's an AP barrage

[barren tapir]

thats pretty gud then

[atomic abyss]

So that's another... 45% damage boost to the barrage

[barren tapir]

i played 5d chess by getting neptune as my pr1 then

shes d30 in a couple days perfect timing

[eternal moth]

They seem to be making the PR1 ships actually good again.

[barren tapir]

i am so here for this, i really like

[forest palm]

imma laugh if they just buff Monarch's healing

[eternal moth]

She'll probably be the last to get an augment too

[atomic abyss]

I'm gonna take a nap
So ping yooks or thorin if you wanna pin the mines or sth

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[rapid grail]

ship can be l8r. Also is maint soon?

[viscid swift]

2 hours for en

[eager mulch]

2 because of daylights savings?

[eager mulch]

[rapid grail]

ah, 8 year maintenance. sasuga developers

[viscid swift]

if you're not used to it by now then I honestle don't know what to tell you

[left cedar]

imagine seein 8h maint for almost 5y and isnt used to

[zenith heron]

is Unzen better than Shimakaze in OpSi Bossing?

[eternal moth]

Technically it's because daylight saving time just ended, but yeah

[sweet delta]

Realistically it has nothing to do with dst

[eternal moth]

If in the US maintenance starts an hour earlier than normal

[forest palm]

DST is in fact to blame no two ways bout it

[eager mulch]

[amber frost]

Have a question about limit breaking, I am having grief making my UniCorn be a 5 star as they are holding my fleet back from doing full damages, does she need a unicorn card to be a 5 star ? the golden bablins I have arent optional.

[eternal moth]

Purple bulins, not gold

[amber frost]

well shit ? she took them before, but thanks for the info

[eternal moth]

Unicorn specifically, though, you can get from the guild shop if you want

[eternal moth]

She always took purple bulins at every LB level

[amber frost]

yeah and my other javelin are stopping my fleet from hitting well enough, surprisingly both of them do well on the same fleet.

[eternal moth]

Also, if you have Hellcats or Corsairs and Barracuda those are much better than the planes you have now

[amber frost]

thats if I can get my hands on them

at epic gold tier

[eternal moth]

Even the purples are better

[sweet delta]

Actually 122-126%

[eternal moth]

While leveling monitors it's ok to give them a toolbox or other HP aux right?

They squishy

[haughty dust]

Is this trash or worth crafting?

[amber frost]

not when the enemies hit like a bich

[viscid swift]

Aa radar if they're dying

[viscid swift]

What they meant is do not assume higher rarity automatically means better in AL

[haughty dust]

any thoughts on what I posted? I’m going to assume at the moment not but I have to double check.

[viscid swift]

It's okay if you lack wyverns

[haughty dust]

I only have one UR wyvern right now.

[viscid swift]

Feel free to use it as a stop gap then

[eternal moth]

I don't know what you mean here. The purple Hellcat/Corsair and Barracuda are expressly better than the planes you have.

[amber frost]

....

you keep thinking about it. :/

[eternal moth]

It doesn't have to do with how hard the enemies hit, it's about clearing the stage as fast as possible

[vale spindle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HiWEmxzav44ahptHuviDBHZDxtvXV2MNzggyPlH6rSg/edit?gid=1538933697#gid=1538933697 datamine 11/7

[eternal moth]

Sam, you think her aug is enough to move her up at least a tier?

[vale spindle]

depends on the barrage numbers

[barren tapir]

[left cedar]

funny its the amount of Augs for IJN in comparison to others factions ... that made me think that only exist IJN ships on game

[eternal moth]

More HMS augments stick out to me than IJN

[kind needle]

Should I go amity or mary celeste?

[sweet delta]

From decent but easily replaced tier to great but easily replaced tier

[kind needle]

So, amity it is? I don’t have both

[barren tapir]

get both for collection but if u only have points for 1 and dont have a waifu preference, amity (potential niche use)

[slow fox]

Neptune (Fate) - 91.44%
With Augment - 123.24%

[sweet delta]

📠

[slow fox]

Hahah good job Suchi COomer

[eager mulch]

@slow fox what is amagi-chan ehp

[slow fox]

I don't have 125Main eHP set up because no one agrees on Mainline eHP model

[barren tapir]

sufficient to mobtank then?

[slow fox]

But if I were to guess, it would be something like 60%, if Musashi was 100%

This is on the same level as....like Ark Royal.

[eager mulch]

[slow fox]

I officially approve SuchiPerson as eHP prelim

[kind needle]

after nakhim and napoli, who should I do next?

[left cedar]

Sushi gud

[barren tapir]

[kind needle]

in pr7 since I skipped pr6 after shimanto

[left cedar]

waifu preferrence, since build them is one thing, get them ready to be used is another thing ...

[kind needle]

Is three ships enough for cdc?

[umbral wadi]

Who should I be buying next in the guild shop? I have Helena and unicorn

[kind needle]

Or it's just efficiency problem if I'm only using three?

[left cedar]

probally, none, cuz guild shop cant sustein themself if u keep buying ships every reset ....

[left cedar]

CdC ?
yeah, u use 3 ships in W12, 12-1 ir 12-4, other maps arent effective as is on W12, since u can lvl shittiers or low lvls without skills ships
and of course not maxed cuz Tech Farming is a thing

[lethal tangle]

Is the new Aug sandy Aug level of improvement?

[left cedar]

pretty much every aug is a improvement ... if there some that isnt is ... Minne and that is i think

the major thing is, majority of time the ship it bad asf to dont make a difference
but in that case, Sandy Aug is reallt gud, so its worth it

[elfin hollow]

is musashi rerun this upcoming maintenance or the next

[left cedar]

not in this week, next one

[eternal moth]

There's at least one other, but I can't remember whose it is. Maybe Roon?

[kind needle]

like the only ships I have on napoli cdc are Kursk, Ognevoy and Avrora

[eternal moth]

Wait, no, Eugen

[left cedar]

Roon dont have a Aug. not that i know ...

[eternal moth]

Yeah, it was Eugen, not Roon

[elfin hollow]

does that mean it’ll be a dead week?

[left cedar]

Kursk and Avro are gud techs, so worth it, idk about DDs

[kind needle]

idk if those 3 will suffice

[eternal moth]

No new event this week, just the added ships to perma without a rate-up. Next week we get Musashi rerun

[left cedar]

Eugen its a improvment, and quite gud one, but Eugen is bad asf ... so not enough to save her

[lethal tangle]

So can Neptune go with her in w15? Unzen really can't tank for me.

[left cedar]

Eugen get quite a chonky amount cuz Aug ...

[sweet delta]

minne aug is improvmeent too

[eternal moth]

Unzen's not a tank, so that's not a surprise

[left cedar]

idk about that ...

[kind needle]

Ibuki got better cuz of aug?

[left cedar]

iirc poverty Unzen

[kind needle]

Anyways, what she do? I don't even have unzen or her

[eternal moth]

Damage

[left cedar]

she fires trp, trp hits, dmg goes up, ships goes down bellow

[kind needle]

Is she gun focused or torp focused CA?

[left cedar]

that is it ...
but the thing is, she is made out of paper for hard content, so take care

[lethal tangle]

My other options for mob tank are Azuma, Hindenburg, Guam or Anchorage.

[left cedar]

TRP focused

[eternal moth]

Guam and Ancho are far superior tank options if that's what you need

[kind needle]

idk why izumo skyrocketed after her aug, now I wanna get her or smth

[eternal moth]

Guam especially is a REALLY good tank for W15

[sweet delta]

i'll 🧻 rate neptune as seattle dps and 123.24% portland ehp

[left cedar]

Guam and Ancho are tankers
Azuma ... idk wut she is, but a waifu should be the best answer
Hindy is a DPS, not made for hardcontent tank, maybe off tank

[eternal moth]

Because her augment was REALLY good.

[vale spindle]

i added the datamine to pins

[left cedar]

go for It, and i think i made a confusion here, Ibuki is CA, and Izumo is the BB ...

[lethal tangle]

Thanks for the advice

[left cedar]

if we are talking about Izumo, gud gold BB, but worse than URs ... so not worth it
Ibuki its a niched CA made for TRP focused fleets, mainly used for manuel and nuke bossing, its quite expenssive setup and not recommended for begginers or mid/late players without huge ton of resourcers to spend

[zenith heron]

can a cross fleet ship still contribute to damage even when She has the Tolls of War activated?

[barren tapir]

+2 hp so na

[eternal moth]

Tolls disables ALL abilities

[barren tapir]

dont rely on ibuki to tank iirc she was 87% ehp

87.05% ye

[eternal moth]

If you have Anchorage and Guam there's no need for using a non-tank to tank with

[zenith heron]

I see, I did a mistake to use my cross fleet on an invading Siren Fleet on an ally node (or it specifically spawned within said fleet)

[left cedar]

gud memory... pretty sure i cant even say wut i have seen 12h ago

[spring bolt]

ibuki aug enables her as fast farming fleet member, it removes her skill barrage internal cd, so it used to be preload not procing barrage and now is 2 preload with 2 skill procs, making her even higher brust damage than unzen at the beginning of the fight
usually she is used in things like opsi mob

[left cedar]

i would take Hindy with 2 guns than any

no bias here

[spring bolt]

in terms of clear speed, hind is far behind anyway

[eternal moth]

Orly? So Kron/Hind/Unzen isn't a great mob fleet?

[left cedar]

i can auto stronghold perfectly with her, without need any concern, and she is a chonky KMS ship

[lofty zodiac]

If you are in a stronghold you can heal at a port and come back to clear it

[spring bolt]

it is, just not as fast

[eternal moth]

Would you replace Hind with Ibuki or someone like that?

[left cedar]

wut CNs are using for Mobbing in Op.Si ?

[eternal moth]

I could use Shima too

[zenith heron]

true, bcs it just killed my BB boss Fleet

[kind needle]

The (I believe) good tanks I have are Agir, d20 brest, ancho, almost mlb guam, yatsen, and laffii idk if I'm missing smth

[spring bolt]

i didn't, im not even using unzen, too lazy to change harbin out

[eternal moth]

If Agir is dev25 + and Ancho is dev30+ those are your best options

[kind needle]

Idk why I don't have azuma

[kind needle]

Agir is D30, Ancho is FS5

[spring bolt]

luna uni aquila, guam harbin hind, or unzen shima ibuki

[left cedar]

Laf2 can be tanker in W15
non MLB guam is trash as Brest in this conditions
Yatsen is a tanker, but need another CN iirc, so for W15 not a option
Ancho is ur best option
Agir is a non gud cuz TRPs in W15 hits REALLY REALLY STRONG and Agir it will take more dmg than any other cuz she is Heavy

[eternal moth]

That's a really good point about Agir. I forgot how many torps there are

[left cedar]

but, there is Hindy ... so she is used to mobbing at all

[plain saffron]

Augment good?

[kind needle]

Currently w14-1 rn, haven't cleared yet since I'm grinding shimanto

Is cheshire still good after w13?

[spring bolt]

yeah, i mean, i said in the beginning, ibuki is for fast farming
CN has 2 fleet building theories, one is go all in for fast farming, which can still one fleet strongholds
the other is to keep gun based vanguards and tanks and even replace luna with amagi to one fleet all contents in opsi, but still WIP

[sweet delta]

shiratsuyu 30 alpha dmg x 8 torps every 5s

[kind needle]

I haven't gotten her, but I got plymouth

[eternal moth]

Does Napoli have a spot in OpSi at all>

[spring bolt]

not really, she can't replace guam or agir

[left cedar]

Nap is the tankiest ship in game
so she have a spot for a tanker in any fleet, but i would avoid to use her in CV fleets

also i'm quite mad with her, cuz she is in reallity a Deutschland hull with Italian tech, but she is a UR and damm stupid tank ... and my desu isnt

[eternal moth]

I understand she's super tanky, but assuming you have all other ships, would she replace any of the typical ships? The only one I'm not sure about in my current fleet is Brest, as she doesn't have a specific job

[left cedar]

as i said, she can take any place as tanker ... but avoid CVs cuz in CVs fleet u wanna something like Guam cuz better AA and help to keep them hidden and get a better DPS output

[barren tapir]

so basically "decent but cannot anyway rescue the ship given its initial state"?

[sweet delta]

i don't think it even qualifies as decent relative to herself

[barren tapir]

mm tru the base dmg is weak, i like the 5s spam tho

[left cedar]

even if 8 TRPs hit, it will be useless ... 30 * 8 its nothing ... and i pretty doubt that half of it will hit 1 enemy ...

[spring bolt]

usually agir works better than her for bb fleets cuz slow and armor break, altho unstable but better than nap can provide. in tankiness, the difference is small
for cv fleet, guam for AA
for mob, you either use guam for AA or all in torps for fast clear, nap can't do either
brest... benched as always

[eternal moth]

Right now I'm using Kron for mob, Agir for BB, and Guam and Brest for my CV fleets. I guess I could try replacing Brest with Laffey 2, see how that works out.

[left cedar]

why Guam and Brest ?

u are wasting one potential buff ... no ARA or lacking of Sirius or Scylla buffs

[eternal moth]

Brest has decent AA

[left cedar]

its 2 fleets ... i'm thinkin in only 1
my bad

[eternal moth]

I do keep forgetting about Scylla though

[spring bolt]

well you don't really need so many fleets... usually 1 bb+1 mob or 1 cv+1 mob is more than enough...

[eternal moth]

Yeah, that's pretty much all I use anyway

[left cedar]

if my FdG focused fleet can deal with everything, i'm quite sure than any of this 2 can deal with everything ... and even better than my FdG fleet

[spring bolt]

opsi contents are too weak for newer ships, until the next update i believe going fast and save your time irl is the way to go...
i mean, i even used a full ap bb fleet to one fleet kill hard temperance... bosses are just weak and outdated

[left cedar]

w8 for Empress make her debut, even more coping if i can have her in my dock

[knotty dome]

can i skip the story battles somehow?

i forgot to do it

and the battles take so long to play out

[left cedar]

story battles ?

[sleek spade]

so next week?

nice!

[spring bolt]

let me defect

[wind hazel]

no, you can't skip them

[barren tapir]

unfortunate

[wind hazel]

-10 cubes lul

[knotty dome]

just managed to finish it

[left cedar]

kachow, i'm speed

[wind hazel]

+10 cubes

[knotty dome]

had to skip thru the minigame and didnt do ex tho sadly

[wind hazel]

moral of the story: do everything day 1

[knotty dome]

i always tell myself that

[frank pulsar]

is that voro? why use her over like scylla or laffii

[left cedar]

slow for Neko

[barren tapir]

sadly i was about 2 mins short of getting the 25k i still need for the pr/dr prints guess ill live with 1 missing print but still

[frank pulsar]

im blind
now it makes sense

[storm heron]

short 500 cogs

[frank pulsar]

when was voro last run? i think i missed her

[atomic abyss]

it was a raid event iirc

[frank pulsar]

so no more banner then

[atomic abyss]

frostfall

mar 2023

[frank pulsar]

there arent any good ships to proc nakh besides soy and voro right?

[knotty dome]

also missed out on 60k event points because i did campaign during the event to get enough coins to buy skin boxes

42k coins per day is too brutal

[sweet delta]

the event maps drop halloween gear skins

[knotty dome]

WHAT

[atomic abyss]

tash and chkalov fs5

[frank pulsar]

actually, dont all events drop skins in d3 stage

[sweet delta]

almost all events dont drop skins

[frank pulsar]

gear skins

[frank pulsar]

i have bad memory then

[knotty dome]

what was it all for then

[frank pulsar]

tash dps comparable to who again
chka prob not a good idea since nakh best on med

[atomic abyss]

tash w/ aug DPS is comparable to moggy iirc

[storm heron]

tash edps

[rapid grail]

early 2023; 2025 poised for rerun

[atomic abyss]

comparable to DDGs if low tech

[rapid grail]

Won't tell you when because rerun schedules are finicky as it is and trying to guess when will just kill my braincells both from guessing and shame when news gets released

[atomic abyss]

raid event tho no?

[eternal moth]

It's been pretty consistently about 2 years from initial to rerun

Plus or minus a couple months

[barren tapir]

i am so sorry for your loss

[spring bolt]

the only +1 for nakh that makes into top fleet building is soy, rest are just stopgap
coping for next UR being russian vanguard with consistent slow and damage debuff

[rapid grail]

me too lol, only farmed for the last 4 days on 2 accounts

[left cedar]

another Russian UR event ? i kinda doubt ...
KMS need a UR CV

[faint cloud]

Coping richthofen in pr8

[barren tapir]

italian UR first pls

[slow fox]

omg fdgcopium

[soft osprey]

I need KMS Europa

I already have the support carriers

[hollow gust]

Honestly when running against light harbys Soyuz is mid asf , vanguard being swapped out is better for damage. In fact Yorktown comp killed it a whole strike earlier

[crimson glacier]

idk man

if you have URs basically any combo can 2 fleet arbys so does it really matter

[slow fox]

I have the same opinion as Torva

[blissful hamlet]

Are you real or speculation

[wind hazel]

what do you think

[boreal wagon]

its pretty obvious from the context

[crude fable]

Between musashi and new jersey which one is better?._.

[wind hazel]

musashi

[blissful hamlet]

Must be real then

[atomic abyss]

musashi by a long shot

[crude fable]

Oh tysm

[frank pulsar]

nj is better on light armoured bossing, musashi is better everywhere else

[tame jungle]

Do we have numbers for neptune augment barrage yet?

[atomic abyss]

not that i can see

[hollow gust]

Neptune mid asf still

[coarse heron]

I wanted to cope and hope she somehow became good

[tame jungle]

Tankiness improvement seems decent but her damage has always just been quite doodoo

[coarse heron]

what does the augment do

[tame jungle]

in:#gameplay-help from:samheart564

Don’t ehhssex me go look at the datamine

[atomic abyss]

+35 FP, +20 EVA

[coarse heron]

Yeah I eventually found it

That shield seems a bit tanky

[coarse heron]

You could have just linked the message directly

[tame jungle]

It’s more fun to go on an adventure

[atomic abyss]

And it's more fun if you're actually being helpful and not being a smug jerk about it.

[south sequoia]

Do ships have a base crit rate

[atomic abyss]

dependent on hit and luck

[south sequoia]

Oh my

Does wiki have a formula for that

[tame jungle]

It also depends on enemy

But should be on the damage calc page

[south sequoia]

Ohhh

[tame jungle]

There should be a 5% base critrate

If i’m looking at the formula correctly

[crimson glacier]

5% sounds familiar to me too

[tame jungle]

5% + term based on evasion + smaller term accounting for luck and level difference + critrate buffs

[quartz jungle]

#gameplay-help message

This the datamine?

[tame jungle]

Yup that’s it

[whole crypt]

any barrage numbers for nepaug?

[tame jungle]

not yet seems like

[late flame]

ngl i forgor neptune exists

[vale spindle]

Somewhere it does

[vale spindle]

Datamine is also linked in pins too

[vale spindle]

No and there wont be for a while cause thorin busy

and its almost 3 am server time which is really fuckin late for me as well

[sharp socket]

is this the best accessible cv setup with cvmagi
its a little hard to see but timings are 21.88 shinano, 22.16 avp, 22.22 cvmagi

[frank pulsar]

is that manjuu supposed to offset avp rld skill

[gilded carbon]

I might be mistaken, but isnt AvP supposed to go First, stun and then the other Carriers can use converging Torps?

[frank pulsar]

regardless my (possibly flawed) maths tell me avp rld here is arnd 22.3, should prob find another way to make her launch second

[gilded carbon]

Thats how i understood her role in a fleet

[frank pulsar]

second, stop supports always go second since they all ramp up before they actually stop

avp stop window is too small for her to be first or third and be fully reliable

[gilded carbon]

Oh, i See. Thanks

[frank pulsar]

for implac iirc she allows more leeway but still ideally second

[gilded carbon]

Are other Stops more reliable?

[frank pulsar]

avp is reliable wdym

[forest palm]

try playing around with Mod VIT

[frank pulsar]

just tighter window than implac

[gilded carbon]

More easily useable?

[forest palm]

August is not fun to use, but the results speak for themselves

[wind hazel]

server up btw

[frank pulsar]

just implac then

[tame jungle]

Gaming time

[forest palm]

Implacable does have the more brain dead CC

[sharp socket]

im using lars calculator in this one so it should be most accurate

[novel condor]

Nube time

[forest palm]

[frank pulsar]

nvm my previous calc was off, but this most definitely does not sync

[midnight lake]

Hi

Im a new player

What should i do now

[tame jungle]

You can start with /guide in #bot-spam

[sharp socket]

the tech is 29

[frank pulsar]

then it should be fine, 22.22

[sharp socket]

thats what im saying

wait howd u get 22.22

[frank pulsar]

but next time be clear whether or not yr using tech to avoid confusion

[frank pulsar]

you said 29 rld

so thats exactly what i input

[sharp socket]

why are 3 different calculation tools/methods giving different results

[forest palm]

out of all of them I'd trust Bombzen's calculator

[eager mulch]

[frank pulsar]

traneptora calc never failed me

[sharp socket]

lars gives me 22.16 but x0.97 and cv calc give 22.22

[forest palm]

right that's their name now, can't remember

just make a chat gpt session to calculate the reload

[boreal wagon]

traneptora uses a higher abscd

both values are equally correct in practice

[whole crypt]

imagine using calculators

[frank pulsar]

better than my shit math

[forest palm]

well with Implacable you don't even need to do much math you can just eyeball it

[whole crypt]

I just estimate, why bother calculating

[sharp socket]

i do not have the luxuries of guesstimation as i dont have implac

[wind hazel]

manual 🧠

[whole crypt]

this is for BBs btw

carriers just swap planes until the launch time looks the about the same

if AvP instead of Implacable then just give it like a second or so to account for RLD buff

[forest palm]

could make it easier on yourself and not use a German Plane

[sharp socket]

considering that i use my cv fleet roughly once every blue moon i forget my gearing every time i use CVs so thats why i have to calc it so much

[whole crypt]

this is what I did for my sub acc on Nagato META, by eyeballing

[fallow sedge]

Is it normal for my unzen to out dmg my sandy ret who out dmg my z23 ret by like 5x

[tame jungle]

maybe save a preset

[forest palm]

use presets child they save you a lot of headache

[weary gust]

Yes. Z23 isn't high dps, Sandy is only a bit more, Unzen is one of the top dps vanguards in the game.

[sharp socket]

yeah i learned about that too but i still recheck stuff cause only have 3 presets

[whole crypt]

I just throw gear up on the fly

[wind hazel]

save down preset code into your own discord server, label them. now you can have more than just 3 preset

[whole crypt]

save your presets on common shitters because no one else will use them

[quasi iron]

hello, i wonder if there is a good guide that can help me understand what to do daily?

[whole crypt]

that kind of depends on how much time you intend to spend and how far you are into the game

if you just want bare minimum then clearing up stuff needed for daily mission

[fallow sedge]

Is vanguard main point to buff does she always get out dmg by othe ur bb?

[whole crypt]

essentially

[mint flint]

yes

[icy cave]

whats a low oil cost fleet i can use to farm for akagi

[crimson glacier]

Like any

Just pick whatever 2 commons you like or have at high level

[icy cave]

alright! thanks

[crisp tree]

Alright so what would be the better option if I value my time more, Retire Shima copy so that I don't have to grind 500 proto for the last bulin I need for my Shinano MLB or get Shima her first limit break using her dupe

[atomic abyss]

You do know that the spec core you get from retiring a UR counts to your monthly cap

[whole crypt]

why do you have a Shimakaze dupe and not a Shinano one

[crisp tree]

Daily roll for the mission just kind popped her out

[whole crypt]

you know heavy/special is not recommended for your daily build right?

[atomic abyss]

Just LB your shima

[whole crypt]

but yeh just LB Shimakaze and wait for the cores, retirement cores count to your monthly limit anyway

[crisp tree]

Aight, I'll just grind the 500 spec cores

[whole crypt]

should I just use BisZwei with cert for my 12-1 BB

[fallow sedge]

Do I have to wait 2 year for a ur to be rerun

[forest palm]

depends on the UR you're specificially aiming for

[atomic abyss]

For any event to rerun
The typical timeline is around 2 years from the original run

[fallow sedge]

No like all ur

Okay

[crisp tree]

Do all the stages drop the same amount of Special cores?

Or do they drop more the harder they are

[wind hazel]

more core the higher you go

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Specialized_Core_Collection_Plan

[atomic abyss]

this need updating

[crisp tree]

I can only get 3 per stage ouch

[forest palm]

eh, you'll pretty much hit cap in like 12 ~ 15 days

maybe less

[whole crypt]

if you're doing ch8 push to 9 even if just for oil cap

[crisp tree]

Can't, getting blocked by commander level rn

[quasi iron]

well i kinda don't know what should my ship equip and where and what to grind. i only complete daily and PR farming for now and i randomly equip the ship equipment.

[whole crypt]

are you at least up to ch12

[quasi iron]

ah still 9, my ships can't complete further

that's why i feel stuck

[whole crypt]

start a thread post your dock and depot

[rancid mural]

Does ex mean the best of the best

[eager mulch]

does you read tiering guidelines

[whole crypt]

reading

[heavy crag]

does anybody know what happens when your mail is maxed?

i just got notif saying that i should clean the mail bõx

[whole crypt]

it starts deleting your oldest mail

and at this point you should just clear out your mailbox anyway

[rancid mural]

Yea I just started I have no reference

[heavy crag]

so you can still get new mails? ingame description said differently, like this, so i'm quite unsure

[rancid mural]

I wouldn't know if something is good or not :v

[whole crypt]

just clear up your mailbox