gameplay-help

[jaunty glade]

https://i.imgur.com/HTOd8uf.png are my BBs

[quartz jungle]

Well Bismarck having her own reload buff makes it quite hard to sync unfortunately

[spring bolt]

none of them is useful to you performance wise
get someone with good tech and you don't have, like massa maybe

[sweet delta]

just get tech like Mikasa or whatever faction's tech points you need a lot more of

[spring bolt]

so ultimately getting rid of helena makes thing much easier... but we can't in many cases

[sharp socket]

is this skill useless for u47

[storm heron]

if 2 sub sink will the ammo be increased midway?

[spring bolt]

basically, using solo sub has no point now, unless you want some low cost farming gimmicks

[stuck stirrup]

Is there any purpose to opening tech boxes once i'm on lab / research gear

[spring bolt]

opening yes, as some gears in boxes are still useful, and some event quests want you to open boxes
just don't spend coins to buy them

[spring bolt]

no

[storm heron]

thanks for testing

[stark quiver]

Is every good paired up with drake

[spring bolt]

yes, they work fine together

[barren tapir]

uni, sara is only really good with both retro and augment which are expensive. uni is #1 ship to retro first, sara can wait

[opal stirrup]

Is this AA worth to farm guy?

[left cedar]

nothing in campaign its worth of farming, if u wanna a gear that drops in campaign, farm in 12-1 or 12-4 for boxes

[opal stirrup]

Anyway mind rate my two main fleet?

[tame jungle]

where is unicorn

[south sequoia]

obligatory faction fleet bad comment

[left cedar]

damm Cleo i'm typing that

[opal stirrup]

In UK fleet with Perseus

[tame jungle]

bruh

[south sequoia]

taps sign

[haughty dust]

RLD?

[undone plover]

Reload
at level 120 she gives +1 rld to all your MLB/dev30 carriers

[south sequoia]

If you wanna think about clearing harder content I'd suggest mixing them up before having fun with faction fleet, since you'll struggle a lot

[tame jungle]

you don't spend your paycheck on luxuries before paying your bills either do you?

[rancid mural]

What's the best use of these

[barren tapir]

ship if you need/want, then gold bulin and the specialized core. DR/PR print if you can, then purple bulin, dorm food, skillbook as needed with extras imo

[rancid mural]

Alright thanks

I have 0 of any of these ships

Should I get amagi?

[tame jungle]

Probably not

[rancid mural]

Alright

Using this https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cl

[tame jungle]

Hood is probably objectively the best choice

[rancid mural]

Alright

Hood over colardo?

[tame jungle]

Also ectl kinda sus because it does not take accessibility for new players into account at all

Yeah

Hold onto colorado because she can be second fleet flagship

[past jackal]

Wanna ask, does doing higher level pve map give more equipment plates ?

[little tree]

Is Plymouth a dps or tank?

[south sequoia]

Dps and Buffer, she still has bulk so she can sponge quite a few hits

[little tree]

Well I need dps so I'm do her then brest then

[weary gust]

Higher level stages in general give better of everything.

Though it can vary.

[signal fog]

is this cat good ?

[haughty dust]

Is it worth putting Hindenburg and UvH in dorm to get some levels on them while I wait to actually get more bps for them?

[south sequoia]

Why not though at like level 80 - 90 I'd take them out and put in actual ships you would use at the current moment

[grizzled sundial]

Eldr and Sandy , which ship to prioritize fully develop and retrofit ?

[signal fog]

or is this better if i can get 20 TRP one ?

[south sequoia]

San Diego would be the more preferrable of the two

[haughty dust]

I have others in there right now and only talking two ships of 6 slots I have available

[forest palm]

that Iron Blood talent really isn't doing much favors

[signal fog]

lol yeah

i have 2 more

[forest palm]

the right one would work

[signal fog]

hooo, thanks

[forest palm]

for Steel you're mostly looking for Alpha Wolf, and Flame Aggression after that TRP, and RLD Talents

[signal fog]

any tips for talent picking ?

let say i have 4 talents point unused
should i keep looking everyday ?

[signal fog]

ok, thanks

[stark quiver]

no faction talents

flame gud on all cats
ace,alpha,souful gud on their respective cats

reset cats who have a good beginner roll
a good beginner roll would be
one of ace,alpha,soufu on the cat + a talent that matches their cats & flame

[signal fog]

i mean, how so i can get my talent of dream ?

let say i want to get alpha and 20TRP+14 RLD and 20TRP here, are there any way ?

[left cedar]

luck, u will keep reseting them till u get the ones u want ... can be fast, can take ages

[signal fog]

ahhhh

[stark quiver]

gambling pro max

[left cedar]

once u fail on reach the talents, u stop there and reset next day

if u keep taking random talents the reset cost goes up

then u add 100 300 times doing that, and u waste bazilion times more

[signal fog]

i mean, cmiiw, game give you 1 free talent pick reset every day right ? should i just keep coming everyday and checking ?

[left cedar]

free talent pick ?

[signal fog]

okay, guess i'll just use this mid talent 😭
thanks for the answer

[stark quiver]

i gamble everyday hoping for gold, all i got was dirt

[signal fog]

something like this

[left cedar]

choose talents its free, reset cost gold based on how much talents are used

[signal fog]

i mean, you want to check everyday and hoping your desired talent appear from that option right ?

[left cedar]

u reset every day, talents wont change if not reseted
important to remeber that initial talents will never change

[signal fog]

reset using 12k coins ?

[left cedar]

as i said, depends on how much talents u used, its something like 18k for 3, and something like 35k for 6

idr the exactly numbers, cuz idc about, cuz everything i have to do with my coins nowadays its enhacing gears for all ships in my dock and reseting cats ... so i'm always with more coins than i need...

[signal fog]

nice, do you buy gear skin on shop ?

[stark quiver]

if u wanna

[left cedar]

to be honest, no, cuz i dont like cosmetics

[stark quiver]

yea same, im content with my shima alice skin

[left cedar]

mostly of my spends go to decent gears for ships i have in dock
Champy for BBs, black and White shell and chappy gun from core, PR2, PR3 and PR4 gears from Protocore, Rudder and STAAGs from craft, and when needed gears in gear lab

[signal fog]

so let's say, i want Alpha and 20 TRP+6RLD
i keep pay coin to get alpha ? and what happened when i get alpha and game decide not to give chief of staff-submarine ?

[left cedar]

focus on get CV and BB Cats first, cuz they will delivery alot more effectivle than niched things for VGs

[signal fog]

what should i do ?

nah, i just want to learn cat mechanic lol.

[left cedar]

but the line of thinking is correct

each type need they "desired" talents
BBs it will be
Flames, Soulful, FP/HP, FP and RLD or HIT talents, preferable in Oscar and Antenna

[signal fog]

this is my BB cat

not bad, not good, kinda mid, lol

[left cedar]

left is a BB cat
right is a Cruiser and CV Cat

[signal fog]

ahhh i see

so if wrong cat, it's kinda unusable ?

[left cedar]

also for HIT or RLD talents its 2 lvl in that Talent, FP Talents it will be prio over this both

[left cedar]

not optimal, each cat have 3 lvl of skills for some hulls, if the skills dosnt match talents, its a suboptimal kit

#gameplay-help message
a oscar it will look similar to this
difference is Artillery with 3 lvls and Lookout with 2

[signal fog]

i admit i kinda neglect cat mechanic, feels like a nice addition, but just that, lol

i think i have one, lol

[left cedar]

wut are the initial talents, looks a possible option

hit resets, dont confirm take a ss and show me

[left cedar]

can be used, but not gona be a perfect one
2 main reasons
1: 3 initial Talents, SR Cats can start with 3 and 4, u wanna one that start with 4
2: started with VG talent

[signal fog]

ahhh i see

[left cedar]

PS: not necessary 4 talents, but 4 points in talents

[signal fog]

so let say i want FA on my last point

should i just keep looking everyday as in hit that "use talent points" button, and praying that FA appear ?

[left cedar]

im my several years of exeprience, and probally close to 1k cats, never get a Flames/Soul in 1 cat ...

but yeah, if u got any BB Cat with Flames/Soul
them hell yeah, its a REALLY INSANE start

[signal fog]

i mean, can this method works ?

[left cedar]

well, u have 2 chances to get a FP talent or Flames

if u hit reset, and get a FP for BB get it, or Flames

if u fail in get any of 3 options, lvl hit once, if fail again, them w8 for tomorrow and try again

[little tree]

after i get Brest and Plym from PR 5 is anyone else worth getting

[left cedar]

move foward, PR6 or 7

[stark quiver]

its shimanto time pr6

[little tree]

Gotcha

[fallow sedge]

Shinano NJ ulrich who's better to pair with musashi in campaign no other ships pls

[little tree]

~~ waht about Hiden Burger~~

[signal fog]

will try, thanks

[left cedar]

Shin, u will get Shin till u mlbed her with her dupes ... after that NJ or UvH have similar performance, so up to u

[left cedar]

personally i see her more like a luxury than necessity, she is a insane DPS specially for mobbing in Op.Si, but that is it

outside that she will ne niched into few META or CM here and there

[gaunt bison]

can anyone give me some pointers on how to build halford? the community tier list has gear listed but not the reasoning behind them and looking at her skills it seems pretty important to equip the correct gear

[left cedar]

i cant, cuz i dont use DDs at all, so 0 experience with them and they builds, w8 4 someone like Sushi or Umi no neko

[short matrix]

is azuma or unzen better?

[stark quiver]

2 different uses

[stark quiver]

typical dd build with her seaplane

[left cedar]

Azuma is kinda off a tanker
Unzen is a DPS focused into TRP, and decent guns

[short matrix]

Is it Azuma for HP and Unzen for dmg I assume?

[stark quiver]

correct

[short matrix]

Also, how good is I-19? Trying to build up some other submarines besides KMS

[left cedar]

its Fish Pack, Wolf Pack or Leo/U47/Homura

[forest palm]

[eternal moth]

Are there any current fleets that use Magato?

[queen jackal]

are the port shops the same every month?

[forest palm]

yes

[plain saffron]

other than 1st month being different, yes

[left cedar]

after u finish the story and get the montly reset, yeah, they will be permanent, during that month

[rancid mural]

Is orange "low" morale

For 50% gain

[frank pulsar]

just put the whole fleet in yr dorm

[left cedar]

imagine a begginer having all slots in dorm or 3 + 2nd

[frank pulsar]

why not

[left cedar]

P2W, yeah, can be ... F2P

[late flame]

just be a beginner ||whale||

[frank pulsar]

gem not difficult to grind early game

[forest palm]

mm...shouldn't take that long to get the 2nd floor, at which point they'd have 6 slots

[left cedar]

problem is more like to get 2nd u need to expand first fully in size, wut it will take some time
and for P2W ... idk, i'm not one

[rancid mural]

Alright thanks.

[ivory pawn]

Getting the decor tokens will take like a month. Should have enough gems by then. Hell, have more than enough gems by then.

[rancid mural]

Guess time to let em rest lol

Yea I have the 6

[frank pulsar]

i hope yr a spender, cuz thats a lot of wasted gem

[icy cave]

He's gonna have 12 slots once he unlocks second floor

[candid meteor]

should if farm t5 or t6?

[wind hazel]

depends on what you need

just wanna farm point? t5.
point+ship? t6

[wind hazel]

gearprint? pick based on need

[candid meteor]

👍

[stone sluice]

What’s the best gun for Tai Yuan and An Shan retrofit?

[ornate scarab]

I thought 15-2 was bad 15-3 got me experiencing new emotions

[little tree]

Wait till you find out about 15 4

[stark quiver]

15-1/2 is basically tutorial of w15

[little tree]

@stark quiver for shinamoto second skill what gun is it referring to

[left cedar]

Shimanto*
Shinamoto ... that exist ?

[spring bolt]

just call her 40k10

[shell citrus]

Mogador do I just use repair + washing machine

[sweet delta]

usually use HP same as other DDs

[rare wyvern]

Same ship but different appearance ? Is it just an oversight ? (The locked one chilled in the dock for a while and I bought the other in the guild shop)

(Question being, do I just LB or am I missing something here)

[stuck sand]

Once I get 150/150 bps for ägir, can I not get more from research??? She’s only at dev lvl 23

[plain saffron]

Skin probably

[rare wyvern]

Am big dum, thank you

[wind hazel]

you can

the 150 is only the catchup, it has no effect on the research if your ships aren't maxed out

[left cedar]

yes, it skin, its one of her frees, and is her with a 1000c bike

[rapid grail]

which is 2nd after HVARs against light armor: La-9 or Bf-109g? For a Kear - Yk2n - Implac loadout

[left cedar]

Light: HVAR > La-9 > Bf109g

[wind hazel]

really?

[left cedar]

wut is so hard to belive, AL seens like to avoid a all around armor weapon at all costs ...

[rapid grail]

oh poggers

[wind hazel]

the damage output really compensate the armor mod difference?

[sudden sparrow]

Y'all, who should I give this to?

[spring bolt]

mostly used in pvp
in pve, it's basically a downgraded rainbow oxy so you give to torp based vanguard when they don't need extra survivability

[stuck sand]

Okay good I was just making sure

[sudden sparrow]

Is this good for Unzen?

It's what I got for her rn.

Still working on it, but I wanna hear y'all's opinions.

[spring bolt]

no
gun is ok for mob or med/heavy armor boss, if you don't have a better one
gold quint mag torp is not good, usable for farming at best, ideally use gold quad mag or rainbow quit mag
pompom is a bad aa gun, use roomba or fp aa gun instead
toolbox is ok as a second survival aux, washing machine is the better one
fumo is for gun based vanguards, unzen prefers rainbow oxy, and make sure survivability isn't issue when you use offensive aux
aug is fine
but with all that said, this is fine if you are just leveling her

[sudden sparrow]

Mind showing me that roomba AA gun? I have no idea what AA gun is that.

[crisp tree]

Ulrich or NJ for first UR bb?

[atomic abyss]

NJ
we're assuming you alr have shinano ofc

[sudden sparrow]

Also, do I give her that 533 Magnetic torp aux instead?

[crisp tree]

Ye, Shinano was my first UR

[sudden sparrow]

Alright.

[atomic abyss]

just give her survival auxes

[rapid grail]

makes first non-magnetic torp salvo into magnetic properties. so reduced speed and ability to home onto enemies
in manual and in*** pvp, this is very good on 533mm mark IX also known as teatorps. it syncs very well with teatorps.

[spring bolt]

you can if she can survive
if you are not sure, go with survival aux

[rapid grail]

NJ will give you better mileage in the game. UvH is quite finicky to use both in campaign and bossing outside of some standout scenarios

this aight for opsi sub comp?

[sudden sparrow]

I would say so.

[spring bolt]

should be fine but not optimal
da vinci is good for main story for the out of range support, in opsi fish comp > wolf pack > mixed

[rapid grail]

[sudden sparrow]

Should I upgrade this or nah?

[wind hazel]

if you use it

[spring bolt]

+10 is totally fine, it's a decent gold cl gun

[sudden sparrow]

Y'all, is Roberts and Every worth it?

[cursive lark]

Every is very good for campaign

[wind hazel]

every is pretty decent, and they are unique so just grab them

[cursive lark]

Roberts worth grabbing, but probably not worth using

[hollow sail]

roberts and bellamy only exist to be mediocre ""usable"" cats for a tempesta sub fleet

[errant fog]

The UR aa gun.... crafting 1 is enough, right?

[hollow sail]

may want more if you want to specifically beat chapter 15. just let the UR AA plans pile up naturally if that's the case though, not recommended to use plan selectors for that

[errant fog]

lemme check how many i have, not like there any other ur aa gun to use it anyway

Oh... Apparently I have been slacking.... Only have 4 of them

[sudden sparrow]

Y'all, rate my better Roon.

[hollow sail]

be very careful with what you use gold plates on

[sudden sparrow]

Well, those pieces of gear were the first gear I've ever used gold plates on.

[hollow sail]

better to use magnetic torpedoes (assuming auto play) instead of that, also greatsword > lance for augment

[sudden sparrow]

Should have used them better...

Like, the gear works yet some I've could have used the gold plates on better stuff.

Also, those torps were recently added and I'm planning on upgrading it to +12.

[hollow sail]

i would advise against that (again assuming auto play)

[sudden sparrow]

Nah, I usually do manual these days.

[hollow sail]

even then keep in mind rainbow gear is 3x more costly on gold plates compared to gold gear

for the price of one +13 shimatorp you could have 3 +13 gold quad mags for auto or 3 +13 MK IX for manual (and pvp)

[warm cliff]

Which armor does La 9 deal with the best, guys?

[sudden sparrow]

Ik

[hollow sail]

best plane against medium armor bosses. also the best fighter for heavy armor bosses, so it would be used there as well if the slot is fighter-locked with no other influencing factors

[nova lichen]

Question, I have 800 core points what should I get from the core shop.

[wind hazel]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[gilded carbon]

What would be a good Set up for August von Parcival? She needs (at least) one KMS-plane for her skills to Trigger.

Yes, i have seen the Tier-List.

[frank pulsar]

usually ppl use a bf109g or junker to trigger her skill

just mix and match planes until shes synced with whatever other cv yr using

note that she should launch second, and that the gap between each cv launch shouldnt be higher than 0.2-0.3s

and if youre not planning to do a boss fight outside campaign, dont bother using her

[atomic abyss]

You use the BF 109G when facing light and med armour

So in that case, you wouldn't need to use the Ju-87 D-4

Against heavy armour, you'd need to use the D-4, since the BF-109G would be worse

[sharp socket]

should i use mail oil to go for 70k pts to get 4 amity dupes or just go 55-60k without using mail oil for 2 amity dupes

and then bulin the rest

[gilded carbon]

Thank you.

[sharp socket]

id use her in sub weekly raid because i have skill issue

[tulip zenith]

Does this event have good stuff

[atomic abyss]

At that point just use royal fortune

[late flame]

not really

[atomic abyss]

Good is an overstatement

[tulip zenith]

Epic 😎

[sharp socket]

but then id have to spend my core data and also 4 bulins

i could also try at it for a while until i resolve my skill issue but that may be difficult

[atomic abyss]

Amity isn't even that good at sub weekly

Her damage is less than what fortune has

[sharp socket]

welp thats not good

[late flame]

iirc mary celest could sorta substitute for RF

[atomic abyss]

Just use subs like a normal person

You only need to clear it once lol

You don't have to clear the damn thing every single fucking week anymore

[sharp socket]

fine ill work it out

i have 6 bidders and lv110 wolfpack it shouldnt be that bad but it kinda was

[atomic abyss]

For lack of a better phrase
That's legitimately a skill issue

[sharp socket]

yes i know

manual is not my forte

[atomic abyss]

All you need is lv100 subs and purple torps iirc

[sharp socket]

ill get my 2nd rainbow oxytorp and see how it goes

actually does the black torp contribute to extra sub ammo in the weekly raid

cause i got that and its like mildly better than gold oxytorp?

[zenith heron]

Black torp can't be equipped by a sub

[sharp socket]

ah nevermind it doesnt go on sub

should i use snorkel + hull or snorkel + oxytorp

[hollow sail]

if this is sub raid the latter

you might not even need snorkel, been too long since i did it

[zenith heron]

If its OpSi, Snorkel is kinda needed for more subs to fire underwater and best paired with hull

While Sub raid is mentioned above me

[late flame]

-RF meme run video by suchi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmZ27PVEAs
-standard subs video by cpt fluffs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQgHA64CmAc
(bookmarked from when i was first attempting)

[keen mural]

the item to retrofit eldridge is not in the shop?

[late flame]

it was event only

[keen mural]

ugh

[hollow sail]

it will get added at some point in the future

[blissful hamlet]

is ganji better than sao marthino?

[atomic abyss]

A polished turd is better than a regular turd yes

[atomic abyss]

All new retro items are added to the core data shop at a later date, at least a year later

[keen mural]

[blissful hamlet]

ganji op

imagine if they add AP cannon for tempesta

[crimson glacier]

wouldnt change anything

[barren tapir]

do these count to the daily limit

[coarse heron]

No

[barren tapir]

ty!

[fallow sedge]

Does ur blueprints increase a dr ships stats?

[atomic abyss]

Amongst other things, aka limit breaking
Yes

[fallow sedge]

Is fdg good for campaign

[reef flume]

She is a good mobbing bb

[frank pulsar]

yea, one of the best bb options for campaign until w15

[atomic abyss]

One of the best mobbing BBs

[marble gale]

can you oath zwei and get bismark oath skin?

[plain saffron]

on zwei yes

[marble gale]

so no need to oath bismark?

[plain saffron]

yep

[marble gale]

thanks man

[plain saffron]

unless you want to equip it on bismarck, then need to oath her also

[half plover]

what is the armor of this opsi season? medium again?

[atomic abyss]

Yes med

[chrome fiber]

I don't know what unit i should upgrade? can anyone help me with it? And possibly assembling fleet for story. T_T

[opaque gate]

inde shinano amagi cv good?

[tame jungle]

For what

[soft dagger]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

[opaque gate]

as mob fleet or opsi

[soft dagger]

shinano and amagicv is more of a bossing ship

[keen sable]

dock pics would help unless really new in which case penny, unicorn, someone, portland, helena, laffey/other starter is what you should be using.

[keen sable]

that would be a terrible mob fleet ||because no healer||

[chrome fiber]

I forgot how to create thread

[keen sable]

find the 🧵 button

[chrome fiber]

Hell build fleet "miko" :3

Like dat?

[past rapids]

Is it possible to use Commissions to help get the 1 million EXP needed for Ship Lab?

[wind hazel]

no

[past rapids]

Welp, I tried.

[wind hazel]

because commission exp isn't counted

[tame jungle]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[tame jungle]

List of sources that do count

[opaque gate]

is there a time where nagato is better than fs5 izumo?

[wind hazel]

yes, some meta fight

[opaque gate]

i love izumo but zamn my nagato with 2 cvs cleared hard mode rjun faster

is there also a way to psssively heal ships in OpSi? i want to run unicornless fleet, nagato amagi cv and shinano

[tame jungle]

Just use unicorn

[opaque gate]

ok thanks

[willow crag]

Unicornless fleet? Use Perseus, its not unicorn

[past rapids]

the grind really is real

[lapis drift]

Are we only allowed one meowficer "kidd" i can't find my double

[tame jungle]

Yea

[little tree]

Is arbiter Rotations on wiki?

[fickle void]

js asking is it recommended to spend oil on refilling ap?

[tame jungle]

Check wiki

[little tree]

with increased vanguard is it best to run elfrich JDA to keep them alive longer or 3 tanks?

[celest matrix]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[bold stream]

What do i need to do here?

[soft raft]

Do you already have at least 7 Iron Blood vanguard ships?

[bold stream]

i have 8 already?

[soft raft]

Then it could've been a desync, try force closing and relaunching your game

[bold stream]

Wth is happening... Do i need to reinstall the game?

I tried to repair but its till the same

[opaque gate]

is izumo sim5 better than nelsonretro?

[atomic abyss]

Mobbing yes, bossing no

[atomic abyss]

Restart your device

[forest palm]

probably if Izumo has Augment

[atomic abyss]

My answer assumed augment

[plain saffron]

Restart device

[late pike]

in terms of gameplay how is golden hind

[opaque gate]

i see, who hss a better mob barrage than nelson/izumo?

[plain saffron]

Bad if you want to do anything remotely hard

[forest palm]

Sailing Frigates are essentially for fun ships

[opaque gate]

like, i hesrd i need barrager in ch14

[late pike]

i seeeeee

[atomic abyss]

Use FdG

[opaque gate]

thanks

[atomic abyss]

FdG is the best mobber for w14

[opaque gate]

how about like, an easy to build one?

[atomic abyss]

What do you mean?

[opaque gate]

like less investment ship

[atomic abyss]

FdG is already super low investment by comparison to other options (namely other URs)

In the first place

Your gear is probably ass if you still somehow don't have fdg

W14 is one of the hardest content in the game

Don't think you can half ass it

[bold stream]

Okay i will

[opaque gate]

ok thanks, but outside of w14, who else can replsfe fdg? just for casual mobbing

[atomic abyss]

If you wanna get by without the best gear
Use the best ships you can

"Casual mobbing" means you aren't pushing content and are just levelling stuff
In which anything works

[forest palm]

only ship that replaces FdG in mobbing is Musashi bar none

[opaque gate]

ok thx

zamn, amazing how fdg still matters and is still the best at somethjng

[little geyser]

what do i need to think about when using shinano?

[wind hazel]

using right gear

[atomic abyss]

That and ensuring there are 2 other Sakura ships with her

And also to only use her at max limit break/max stars

[little geyser]

oof i only have one good one

thank you for the help tho

is she still usable? (im not that far in the game)

[tame jungle]

if she's max lb sure

[little geyser]

nice thank you

is musashi evver gonna be back? she looks cool

[wind hazel]

she's coming back soon

[tame jungle]

she should be next UR to rerun

[little geyser]

oooh nice

[tame jungle]

and no we don't know the exact date when

[soft raft]

Next UR in line to rerun
2nd event in line to rerun

[little geyser]

would she be good with shinano?

[wind hazel]

campaign sure

[tame jungle]

she's a good ship

[soft raft]

They don't really have much synergy with each other but hey double UR go brrrr

[little geyser]

alright thank you so much for answering my questions

[wind hazel]

if you have shinano musashi hakuryu that's a good bossing campaign fleet

no synergy is 🧢

[upbeat wagon]

Would nelson or pennsylvania be more worth to invest

[opaque gate]

any good pr1 gear?

[still idol]

hi guys im new, how do i unlock next stages i war archives? i want to get duke of york but i dont know how to unlock the stage to get her

[forest palm]

tap the button that says hard, you don't even need to unlock it

[frank pulsar]

not rly, izumo gun is great for musashi but otherwise eh

[opaque gate]

what is izumo gun

[frank pulsar]

triple 410mm

[still idol]

omg thx

[opaque gate]

i see, is it better than 406 for izumo?

[frank pulsar]

no, if youre talking about the mk6 for campaign

[opaque gate]

im talking abt the pr3 weapon

[strong tartan]

champagne gun

[forest palm]

Musashi is locked to using IJN Main Guns that's why the Triple 410 is used

[frank pulsar]

no its worse

triple 410 is outdated, musashi only uses it cuz she has ijn gun requirement

[opaque gate]

oooh i see, thanks

icneed 3 champagne guns right?

cuz ichave 2 alr and 20 pr3 blueprints

[wind hazel]

if you're missing soyuz gun, yes 3

[dusky cave]

I have finished 14-2 and using the same fleet for 14-3 but my same fleet is getting trashed by subs and torps. Is 14-3 a big change from the other levels on W14 or something?

[wind hazel]

it's a difficulty spike, like most maps

[ornate narwhal]

How long do u think it’ll take me to get 5 purple retrofit mats?

[wind hazel]

less than a week

[sweet delta]

Could be 10 seconds if you have the blues in depot

[ornate narwhal]

Also what do I do with blue cats?

Feed them to gold cats?

[tame jungle]

feed them to good gold cats

[forest palm]

catibalisms

[ornate narwhal]

Which of these are good?

[tame jungle]

idk do /catguide or smth in botspam

[stark quiver]

Keep the tempests cats,rest are

[sweet delta]

Drake and every

[forest palm]

well...Every, Kidd, and Drake are guaranteed to be good, the rest we have no clue

[still idol]

how do i top up my total TRP? i upgraded my gear but it did not go up

[stark quiver]

use more destroyers
and use aux that boost trp stat

[eternal moth]

Drop Helena and Reno for torpedo ships

Helena doesn't have torps at all, and Sandy's torp stat is garbo. Replacing just Reno might actually be enough if you have a decent high-torp ship; Ayanami has almost 600 base at 120, for example

[storm heron]

so replace reno with ayanami?

[nova crane]

anyone know about the next UR ship

[reef flume]

Rerun? Musashi
December UR? That will be revealed only in December

[forest palm]

Musashi isn't going to rerun this year

[soft raft]

or more like we have no concrete confirmation when Musashi rerun will happen

We'll only know like a week before it happens

[nova crane]

ok

[reef flume]

Or it'll be a situation like Vanguard where in one JP maintenance details it'll be announced but for the successive maintenance (to make it more simple: they share maintenance notes for one week's maintenances in where the rerun is confirmed but it happens the week after)

[cerulean lantern]

Is there a way to farm stage 6 event with a fleet that spend less than 10 oils per battle

[atomic abyss]

no - enemies are at or over lv 100
which is why people are doing that with T5

[sweet delta]

Best one can do is 11 oil

[cerulean lantern]

How?

[half plover]

there is a possibility but it is highly unlikly yeah

[crimson grove]

Suchi is it possible to make a comp (backline mainly) that can work for Elizabeth and nagato meta

[atomic abyss]

the frontlines would be diff, since you need a meta ship for QEM

[crimson grove]

yep i figure that

I'm somehow getting oneshots in nugget so want to not make a lot of changes and clear qem

[pastel wraith]

which one I should get

[atomic abyss]

enterprise
if you have her already, hood
if you have both, san diego

[pastel wraith]

I have none of them, so enterprise, right?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[pastel wraith]

nicenice

thank you

[gilded carbon]

what about Illustrious? When i stopped back then, she was considered good, as far as i recall?

[atomic abyss]

illustrious was never good

[gilded carbon]

But her set up is likely... lacking now?

[atomic abyss]

illustrious, from day 1 to now is niche

[keen mural]

Is the BTD-1 destroyer any good? Or just worse than Helldiver?

[gilded carbon]

hmm, maybe i recalled wrongly. Sry. Its been so long

[tame jungle]

btd1 is bad

[atomic abyss]

btd-1 destroyer is worse than the helldiver in every regard

[atomic abyss]

youtubers overrated her, i can tell you that much

[keen mural]

Alright thanks

[tame jungle]

she's top tier for secretary duty

[atomic abyss]

the thing is that a *bossing backliner shd be DPS-ing, not make the frontline tankier

[tame jungle]

(which does not affect gameplay)

[atomic abyss]

and if you need the frontline to be tanky without relying on their own bulk, there are healers

...which do a better job on mob fleets anyways

illustrious' main use now is for w15 support fleets - which appreciate her 6 fighters

[gilded carbon]

thank you for answering ^^

[hollow gust]

Tf is with the illustrious shade? She is one of the better CVs in high end content , not to mention her augment gave her a very noticeable bump in damage

[atomic abyss]

a noticeable bump from close to 0 yes

[sweet delta]

Illustrious damage is garbage after aug

[atomic abyss]

well, i guess she is above average in terms of CVs for end game
so yeah technically one of the better accessible options

[sweet delta]

anyone have 2 la9 to test her against strength?

[atomic abyss]

above average doesnt mean she's one of the best choices

[atomic abyss]

i have to unironically ask

why havent people used her for bossing with rocket fighters

[cobalt rapids]

remind me next week

[atomic abyss]

if her damage was really that good

[sweet delta]

because that "if" doesnt apply in reality

[gilded carbon]

we have Rocket Fighters? How did i miss that ^^'

[hollow gust]

[atomic abyss]

theyve been around since... 3 years ago

to be clear i mean they launch rockets instead of bombs or torps
which excel against light/med armour enemies

[gilded carbon]

yep. Im blinded by the options then.

[atomic abyss]

and not that they're, actually rocket propelled fighter planes

[gilded carbon]

i will look into where to get them. Coming back from a long break makes me feel like a fool for asking so much

[atomic abyss]

to be clear goose, im not making a mockery out of lusty being used on bosses with 2x rockets

i have genuinely wondered to myself why that wasnt a thing

at least, early in the UR CV meta when there was only haku and nano

[hollow gust]

Just use enterprise

[sweet delta]

it's because she has exactly zero offensive skills before augment, and after augment there's just a weak barrage

[atomic abyss]

i suppose by that point you might as well use centaur

[left cedar]

iirc, aside tha lack of offessive skills, when Shin and Haky came, just Bf109g exist ... HVAR take quite a time to reach ... also by that time no granted stop for AvP ...

[keen mural]

Rockets are only good for boss right?

[atomic abyss]

opsi bosses or metas yes

[undone plover]

Spearfish has rockets and it is good in mob

[tame jungle]

spearfish is also not a fighter

[swift holly]

so

i forgot what i wanted to ask

[onyx chasm]

Is anyone in the banner worth pulling for?

[atomic abyss]

no

[onyx chasm]

Alright

[swift holly]

whens next event

[atomic abyss]

we dont know

most likely collab

[swift holly]

oh god not another mid collab, atleast make a good one

[atomic abyss]

collab is already announced to be to love ru

it'll be sometime this year
so either next event or the event after that

[swift holly]

So we might get Anson next normal event

[atomic abyss]

[soft raft]

how the fuck did you get to that conclusion

[swift holly]

the last Kgv class that we don't have

[storm heron]

[left cedar]

just coping hard for a gud EVA gear and EVA/FP Gear again

[stuck sand]

Should I develop kearsage or Hindenburg first?

[storm heron]

Yea same question

[left cedar]

Kea its niched to USS Light fleet, and Hindy niched to Op.SI Mobbing, both can be used in general content, but not gud into campaign

[sweet delta]

and both are bad before dev 30

[forest palm]

just skip to PR7

[reef flume]

Tbh that is like coping Yamato

[tame jungle]

that can go to #al-general :3

[reef flume]

Anyway when new gear lab update?

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't expect the next until Late January

[reef flume]

Ah

[hushed delta]

does my dear Tashkent benefit from her own skill even if no other NP DDs are in the fleet?

[chrome fiber]

What is low aa ships?

[sweet delta]

Nobody knows

[chrome fiber]

.

[hushed delta]

low antiair stat?

[reef flume]

Non-high aa ships

[chrome fiber]

?

[keen mural]

is pointless to rise adaptive tuning after a certain point?

[chrome fiber]

Example? How can i see if a ship have low aa stats?

oh wait i think i get it

[sweet delta]

You can't, it's always relative to the other ships in the fleet. And nobody has proved if those "accelerators" even should be used

[sweet delta]

I just do this (in the absence of rainbow AA) #gameplay-help message

[tame jungle]

max effective cap for arbiter is 203/203/156 if i remember correctly, that's enough for max benefits on the arbiter. the effective caps for adapts in other zones are on the operation siren wiki page.

[keen mural]

so i shouldnt waste resources after that point, got it thanks

[tame jungle]

whenever you get the exchange for ESD (the otherwise useless capsule things) you can still get those, you'll always have way more of those than you need at the end of the month

[keen mural]

arent those worth exchange token after reset?

[tame jungle]

5 per, so not that much

of course, most efficient is to just get the adapts naturally but it's really easy to go positive on opsi vouchers per month

[keen mural]

i see, thanks

[ornate narwhal]

Is it worth it to make this for laffey?

[cobalt rapids]

its fine to make, it doesnt rly use any high prio mats

[ornate narwhal]

Ok also how can I get a blue buffalo fighter?

[cobalt rapids]

eagle tech boxes, but what do u need it for

[ornate narwhal]

To make flackjack

[cobalt rapids]

do u have conv tbs ?

[ornate narwhal]

He only corsair I have is +10

All I need is the top mat and I can buy them

[cobalt rapids]

flaps arent that high prio for electric and ords

[sweet delta]

/orderedgearlab

[glass quest]

Is Eldridge or Yuudachi‘s Retrofit better

[sweet delta]

Eldridge retrofit is better

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[ornate narwhal]

But won’t the wyvern take a long time? Isn’t it better to get some gold mats first

[cobalt rapids]

it will take an infinite amount of time if the mats go to other stuff

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[cobalt rapids]

u can plan ahead the cost and reserve that for wyvern and use the spares

[ornate narwhal]

Also what are junkers?

[cobalt rapids]

JU-87 D4

[ornate narwhal]

Which section?

[cobalt rapids]

iron blood torpedo bomber

[cobalt rapids]

mby u can get like 100 electric components per month

[ornate narwhal]

I can make it is it worth it?

[cobalt rapids]

yes top prio for electric components

[ornate narwhal]

Could u send me the full priority? Bc I was just using the /gearlab which ig isn’t accurate

[cobalt rapids]

i dont have it ordered beyond this because like i said the end

[ornate narwhal]

I meant for other mats that I should save like besides those components there are other rare stuff and idk how to save it

[cobalt rapids]

is the message link not linking correctly ?
like i said the other u can check pic from /gearlab top bottom prio coz mats are more abundant/not high prios and/or non conflicting

[ornate narwhal]

I mean liek in the priority the junkers isn’t high priority and the flapjack is…

Also how do I get the rainbow designs? Like besides the shop bc u need so many…

[stark quiver]

rng

[ornate narwhal]

Oh god

Could u also explain how the priority works pls

Bc I’m really confused

[undone plover]

any gear that does not use the electronics u can follow the command in /gearlab
for the stuff that uses electronics make sure u have the gear umi no neko suggested

make the gear that u need
dont go making 10 flapjacks just cause the /gearlab command says they are good

[ornate narwhal]

I was just gonna make 1 but liek everything needs electronics

[undone plover]

yeah making a flapjack later is fine
but like neko said make wyverns and junkers first
if u are on pr4 focus in research u should get ryuusei from research and not need to craft it
after that u can make flapjacks

[ornate narwhal]

Ok also can I craft purple electronics to gold ones?

[undone plover]

no only T2 ordnace report can be crafted to T3 afaik but even that is not worth as a beginner

[ornate narwhal]

That’s sad I wish I could craft up😭

[reef flume]

Is Junker a higher prio than Ryuusei tho?

[undone plover]

if u are active on opsi u will have enough of all mats
only electronics will be a struggle later on
probably even more than UR designs

[ornate narwhal]

What is the chance to get the UR design?

Oh come on

[keen mural]

you can save 76 electronics, i wish i did that, now i miss 30 for my first wyvern, didnt know i'll get UR designs that fast after first month reset

[tame jungle]

you can get a couple guaranteed in the store

rest is rng

[ornate narwhal]

Yea but not enough

[undone plover]

4 selectors are guarenteed each month from port shop and normal arbiter
u can convert them to any of the designs u want

[tame jungle]

well get grinding then

[ornate narwhal]

Also how can I beat lvl 5-6? My lvl 120 team can’t clear😭

[stark quiver]

gear issue and adapt

[undone plover]

there is also 6 other selectors u can get from the blue files in the voucher shop after reset
they each give one selector at the end

[keen mural]

file mission give UR design plan as well

[ornate narwhal]

I already spent all my tix😭😭😭

[left cedar]

with gud gears a bad fleet can deal with Abyss C6 ...

[undone plover]

that is fine they dont go away and u dont need to rush wyverns
actually buying more than 1 per month is not very optimal unless u have a lot of vouchers

[left cedar]

a bad fleet with bad gears cant, a gud fleets with bad gears it will fail ...

[undone plover]

did u unlock opsi reset? @ornate narwhal

[ornate narwhal]

Yes

[undone plover]

if u are in new opsi shop then just get stronger and fight the bosses during last week of the month

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[undone plover]

for now just do daily missions and unlock all the zones
maybe also do the easy hidden zones

[ornate narwhal]

This is my team…all the 5-6 and red zones are impossible for me rn

[stark quiver]

yea that gear is not it

[undone plover]

that is expected
u will get stronger
level your nelson skills

[ornate narwhal]

I am I just retrofitted her today

[undone plover]

and try and MLB rodney if u have her to get nelson's pennant for her in collection

[ornate narwhal]

I don’t have Rodney💀

How can I get her

[undone plover]

did u get this in core shop?

[ornate narwhal]

Help pls…

[ornate narwhal]

I’m at 500 core data

[keen mural]

you can get rodney in ch 10-3

[undone plover]

your gear selection is fine
just need better gear which u will get in time

although u should be able to beat c5 zones
are your adaptive tunings high enough?

[tame jungle]

yeah at this point it's just making the incremental improvements, you just need the time to improve your fleet

[keen mural]

or 5-4 / 2-4 bot those are not oil capped

[ornate narwhal]

I’m on chapter 8 I spent too much time farming event

[undone plover]

no it is fine
if u are not on 30k event tokens for the milestone I would still do event first then maybe go and push to ch12 after

[ornate narwhal]

I mean I haven’t tried this month but last month it destroyed me

[ornate narwhal]

I’m at 54k💀💀💀

[undone plover]

oh.. even better but imo stop and push campaign now

[keen mural]

well get to 55k and stop i guess

[undone plover]

u should get 55k with dailies alone

[tame jungle]

nah no need to farm to 55k

[ornate narwhal]

Yea I stopped grinding a few days ago just did dailies and sp stage…before I was at chapter 4

[undone plover]

then imo u are doing great
push with your fleet until they cant anymore
then start raising a second fleet

[ornate narwhal]

I already started raising a second

[undone plover]

i think push to highest map u can
then raise second one
raising a fleet in ch8 is not good

[ornate narwhal]

I didn’t I did it in event

It’s Deutch, Spee, gg, Penn, Yorktown, and LI

[undone plover]

oh I see
if your second fleet is around level 100 u can easily clear up to ch12

[ornate narwhal]

It’s 70 with Penn 120

I’m able to clear chapter 8 with only Nelson, laffey and uni

[undone plover]

yeah your fleet 1 can clear up to 11+ alone I think

anyway just push as much as u can
then when u cant anymore get more levels on 2nd fleet and u will be fine

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[undone plover]

when u are in ch12 u can start working on shipyard and research

[keen mural]

i'd say put uni in you second fleet so you can mob with it and level them up faster, that's what i did at least

[undone plover]

then opsi will become very easy when u get stronger ships

[ornate narwhal]

I stated working on shipyard, all I need for St. Louis is the retrofit mats and coins, and I started unlocking stuff for roon…for research I’ve been doing longer ones (4,6,12 hours)bc I’m always out of coins

Is that ok?

[undone plover]

are u actively doing roon or saint louis right now?

[ornate narwhal]

Roon, I already unlocked all of St. Louis tine-gated stuff

Also starting in chapter 8 I’m leaving 3* till after i get to chapter 12

[undone plover]

I see
then yeah finish roon first she gives kms tech
then if u can work on anchorage do her next

dw too much about it until u get to ch12

same for research
imo avoid taking basic research as much as u can
but early on your options are limited
try and do D, Q, G research as much as u can but coins should go into MLB, awakening and gear first
The 2 hour E research (the one that asks u to scrap some gear) is better than the rest if u cant take D, Q or G

also make sure u are on pr4 focus in research academy
and put catchup on anchorage then FdG
dont touch the pr1-3 catchup for now
u want it later

[ornate narwhal]

I put my focus on FdG

[undone plover]

does anyone remember for the series 1 rookie missions is doing 1 ship alone for both times enough or do u need to dev 2 ships ?

[tame jungle]

It’s a retroactive check, is it not? Pretty sure game just checks if you got a pr1 then just marks the mission as completed

[hollow sail]

just one should be enough

[soft osprey]

chat, is avrora good?

[soft raft]

Avrora? Nothing too special
Aurora? Very solid for anti-light CV fleets

[soft osprey]

aigh thanks.

[unique lantern]

vanguard maxed just now, anything here worth leveling (except amagi and avp, already in fleet) while im doing the event spam?

theres more but they wouldnt survive t6 and im not going to level/lb them rn

[viscid swift]

there's plenty of good tech to be had in there

[unique lantern]

formidable/ryuu?

[stark quiver]

most of them have good tech

[spring bolt]

not what you asked but t6 isn't a good place for grinding, especially after you got amity
t5 has better exp per oil and event point per oil

[viscid swift]

not Formidable, she gives AA tech

[unique lantern]

just saw my hiryuu is not retrofit, imma do her to 85 and then check the tech

btw, this item good?

[stark quiver]

there are better

[tame jungle]

It’s a fp aux that you can use on dds, fine to use when they’re not dying

[spring bolt]

0lb farming uses it a lot

[unique lantern]

0lb farming still exists? (i guess some people still want the foxes)
i thought that died when oil caps were introduced

[stark quiver]

what do i do if im both out of coins and oil
and now i cant upgrade my gear

[sweet delta]

But I need 9 more Amities

[spring bolt]

no
like in this event, 3 oil t3 is easy, maybe t4 is also possible

[spring bolt]

fleet power? im not going to touch that shit, not before i lv120 all tech ships

[stark quiver]

does sushi even have enoug dock to hold it all

[spring bolt]

c1 farming

[stark quiver]

p2w

[sweet delta]

What's the strength shield bug?

#bug-reports message like what causes it and what does it do

[hollow gust]

The what?

I'm dumb dumb

[stark quiver]

gameplay wise, what would be the best usage for gems if i have max dorm and dock

[vague merlin]

idk it just gets stuck there for me, I also tried it again

[left cedar]

welcome to the spaghetti we face to ... idk, 2y ?

[eternal basalt]

You got 3000 dock?

[stark quiver]

not yet

[keen mural]

arent there like 750 something ship? to have some free space you can get to 800 or a bit more but i dont see the point of going over that

[left cedar]

why 3k dock ... u aim to be the toppest Fleet power in game ? otherwise, is useless

1k dock is alot more than needed, cuz with 1k u can have every ship, the copy but different like Children, Muse etc and all colabs and still got 200 empty for grind and bullins

[tame jungle]

Nah u don’t get it think about the quick retire dopamine

[raven marsh]

how many gems does 1k dock take

[keen mural]

17k?

[left cedar]

till 1k its 200 gems, more than that have a bigger cost

[forest palm]

it would be 200 x 85

if you wanted 1k dock space exact

[keen mural]

200 x 85

[left cedar]

its 200 gems for 10 slots, needed so 85 x 200 = 17000 gems
ahead of 1k have a bigger cost and idk how much cost

[stark quiver]

how much usd for 1k dock

[tame jungle]

Hella

[forest palm]

actually not that much

[left cedar]

i know for sure that for us in 3rd countrys is hella alot something worth of full 3m of minimun wage ...

naah, 1m only, at least here in my country

[hollow gust]

Has anyone actually did the math?

[barren tapir]

wouldnt 1000 (exactly) dock be 16400 gems

[hollow gust]

Isn't that only 200-300 usd? That's like 3 days of work

[barren tapir]

sounds about right, al is very reasonably priced until you begin buying hundreds of skins

specially when you'd likely spend half that or less if you only expand when you need to, given the free gems and anniversaries and so on

[keen mural]

yeah but for some people it's not 3 days of work, that's what they were saying

[barren tapir]

ye true it can be a lot of money depending on the country

but eh the active player would be earning 1500-2000 gems (depending on how often manjuu gives handout and assuming a small trickle from commission) a year so they can reach it with patience anyway

[coarse heron]

Bro we don’t get apologems that often

[sweet delta]

they're not apologems

[hollow gust]

We get a shit ton of gems a year

This year we easily made 1k+

[coarse heron]

[stark quiver]

We did?

[keen mural]

i'm new i didnt get any till now, what gems are you guys talking about beside commision?

[barren tapir]

anniversary is like 600-700, lunar new year 300, lets say 1-2 mandatory update/compensation a year, then you can get like 30-40 gems a month from lucky commission lets say, its about 1500+

[ivory pawn]

Speaking of commissions, are those 1000 oil commissions actually worth doing?

[sweet delta]

using the oil to farm oil capped maps is better

[ivory pawn]

That's what I thought, ty.

[barren tapir]

there was some amagi cv text fix in september that gave 200 gems kekw

[keen mural]

when is the anniversary?

[coarse heron]

August

[keen mural]

ugh i'm late

[soft raft]

CN: May
EN: August
JP: Sept

KR and TW, idk (and they dont really get any fanfare anyways)

[novel solstice]

I feel like I don't get nearly 30-40/month from lucky comms, but I haven't actually kept track.

[stark quiver]

I get around 100~ gems a month from comms

[barren tapir]

ye i missed the anniversary by a month rip dock slot

[left cedar]

TW is Oct (yeah tempesta)

KR i really dk

[ivory pawn]

You can get gems from commissions?
-Month old player who hasn't seen a single such commission.

[coarse heron]

Taiwan gets tentacles from anniversary

[barren tapir]

well those comms are extremely luck based but the more active u are the better ur chance is to see one every now and then

[coarse heron]

It’s a low chance to get them and an even lower chance to get any gems

[novel solstice]

They only show up in "urgent commissions", which are the ones that you sometimes get upon completing a map. They've very rare. But if you ever see one pop up with "VIP" or "holiday" in the name, go grab it...

[barren tapir]

there are forbidden method to try and get them but that is only something you can consider once you finish everything else in the game and are bored

[coarse heron]

Most I’ve ever seen from a gem comm was 56 gems

[barren tapir]

stuff like 3 oil fleets and c1 farm kinda shit

[coarse heron]

Felt like a billionaire that day

[coarse heron]

Forbidden 3 oil no jutsu

[barren tapir]

since its a chance proc off a battle the more battles you do per day the better your chances, in theory at least. but its not worth trying to chase them unless your country is like super duper poor and you also have finished every relevant goal in the game

[hollow sail]

you don't need to be done with the game to go for C1 spam, it's just a "how much time/resources you have on your hands" type thing. if you don't want to/can't spend oil it's something you can do. i wouldn't spam 2-1 at this point in time, no point in it over C1 really

[ivory pawn]

I don't even craft orundum in AK after like 4 years, I assume I'll never gem hunt in AL either.

[barren tapir]

well...done with opsi for the month at least (more or less)

[left cedar]

o yeah, iamgine a begginer struggling to reach W12 and farming for gems instead on focusing in progress cuz he wanna dream about gems ...

[barren tapir]

thats a good idea seeing as u can go weeks and weeks without seeing a gem comm and the success rate is like 25%

its not worth it

[left cedar]

so yeah, imo if u wanna dream about gem comms, i really recommend to keep progressing till late game, like W14 completed and Op.Si completed as well

and even so, i still recommend to focus more on tech farm than dream about gem comms, cuz the rate sucks

u will need something like 10 gem comms to get 1 with gems in avg

[hollow sail]

nah, the rates aren't that bad

[left cedar]

and still can be something like 1 gem ...

[barren tapir]

depend on luck, i am currently 5/12 (probably beginner luck)

just like some ppl need pity every UR and some pull 3 UR in a 10 pull, same is true for gem comms

[left cedar]

or complete banner in 1 multi
i cant lie, its so fucking gud

[barren tapir]

the thing is the rng with them is exceedingly volatile so you can get very nice luck and then nothing ever since, it is another gacha pretty much. during the amagi event i got 3 successful gem comms in 2 days when farming the event map, then after that...nothing for a month

which is why farming "for" them is bad, you cannot do that, it is all about if luck decides you get the prize or not. farming "for" gem is like pulling permanent banner hoping for UR spook, and not just UR spook but enough spooks to MLB

[hollow sail]

when you do C1 the gems are just a bonus anyway, you're doing it mainly for the extra opsi mats, you can get a decent amount of gems from it because you can do it essentially forever if you have the time. but most people don't have that time

[left cedar]

i keep farming heavy even nowadays i already tech farming almost all Cruisers and biggers ... and i still dont get much Gem Comms ... and once i got them, the chance to get them its quite low

[blissful hamlet]

is it worth it to buy cruise pass for the gear skin?

[left cedar]

if u have money to spend in game and like the ship skin, yeah its worth it

[blissful hamlet]

gear skin not ship skin

[barren tapir]

so it is recommended then if i have the time for it after like all the big opsi stuff is completed?

[left cedar]

thats why i mention the ship itself, cuz only gear skin i dont think its worth it enough to u buy it, and if u wanna pull the resourcers, the game by itself already friendly enough to give u plenty of mats without need to dive into P2W

[ivory pawn]

What is C1 exactly, some opsi node?

[hollow sail]

i typically do it earlier in the month during dead weeks the most if i don't have much to level. later weeks in the month tend to be the ones where events are usually running

[blissful hamlet]

[novel solstice]

Opsi nodes are rated by "Corrosion Level". C1 is easiest and cheapest to do, and it goes up from there.

If you want lots of rolls for urgent comms, you do the cheap stuff.

[hollow sail]

it's only recommended if you have the time to dedicate to it, doing it only short-term can have you in the negative. people who farm it seriously reach 999 all adapts just from C1

[novel solstice]

(and with a little luck it basically goes infinite, as you can autosearch and stop when it gives you a merchant, which has good odds of selling you some AP that you use to do more C1 runs...)

[ivory pawn]

Oh, corrosion, that makes more sense. I was thinking of the event numbering and thought it was something that unlocked after the opsi story.

[hollow sail]

you can also use C1 to level, but it's not exactly fast, and you'll have slower clear times, so yeah

[spring bolt]

c1 entry AP cost is 5, AP gain from the green head cat when farming c1 is also 5 on average
the truth of farming c1 is you are converting you opsi coins into ship and cmdr exp

plus a lot of time

[hollow sail]

C1 is AP-positive in the long term

do it a lot and you can have an extra few thousand AP at the end of the month

[spring bolt]

no it's just you being lucky
bad luck happens

[hollow sail]

nah. statistics backs it up that it is positive

[spring bolt]

number i saw says otherwise tho

[hollow sail]

ofc there is a very small chance of you being unlucky (really only if you don't do it enough), but that's not a real reason to not do it if you can

[barren tapir]

👀

[hollow sail]

the people that farm it the most get 9999 heal boxes from C1, we keep doing it because it works even if we farmed less and got unlucky occasionally it wouldn't invalidate all the other times where it works perfectly well

[spring bolt]

no you will need to consider green head cat AP box ratio
also the AP self regen, you can basically see AP regen is converted to AP boxes and that's why you have thousands of AP in the end of the month

[hollow sail]

everything has been considered, we know how it works

[barren tapir]

true tbh, ap self regen is 4k+ per month

[hollow sail]

it's still positive

and it will be even more positive if you burn it on C3 instead of C5

[barren tapir]

what i am curious about is how many opsi mats you would get

[hollow sail]

you'd have better luck asking faer or veerra about that since i don't keep tabs on my specific numbers but they have spreadsheets

[ornate narwhal]

Is this good for enti or uni?

Which should I put it on?

[spring bolt]

not going to believe it until i saw the numbers
also i grind c1 as well, im not getting positive AP from c1, as i still spend similar time in c3 each month as when i didn't farm c1

[hollow sail]

you can ask the aforementioned persons for their spreadsheets/numbers. it's perfectly possible to have streaks of bad luck when running C1, on one month it has personally happened to me going 500+ AP a couple times without seeing a single AP box off akashi, but even with that i still ended up with more than what i would have had if i didn't do C1 because i did it enough that it bounced back towards the true average

[hollow sail]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ShBngKxqPrwciQ4tQ1zVYEBaaymbNCtNPt1V9PEKgYE/edit#gid=0 veerra had another spreadsheet i think but here is one of them

[fallow sedge]

Example if I have 500 pr3 data collection and I use them all is it possible to collect it again?

Or obtain it again

[viscid swift]

you could but really just convert all combat data collection packs you get to prototype cores

[versed forum]

Is saiun better for amagi and shinano? i saw someone used that which makes me doubt if ryuusei or vit-2 is good maybe because of timing idk that

[sweet delta]

you just said it, timing

[crude fable]

Which shell is better to exchange for the begginer the white one or the black one?._.

[sweet delta]

that's a hard question but doesn't really matter in the end. You'll want more white than black, but white shell has a purple-rarity version you may already have

just try to end up with 3 white and 1-2 black after 3 months

[crude fable]

Uh.. what's the purple rarity of it?._.

[novel solstice]

It looks like the white shell, but has a purple background...

It's called something like "Type 91 Armor Piercing Shell"

[crude fable]

Oh oki tysm let me check it

[novel solstice]

There's also the pencil ("6CRH Armor Piercing Shell"), which is specifically for Royal Navy ships.

[spring bolt]

quite far away from what i saw earlier, was around average 100 AP gain per akashi and 5% akashi rate
in this chart it's about 10% AP gain, which is insane tbh

[blissful hamlet]

who do more damage yuudachi or felix?

[spring bolt]

should be poi

[blissful hamlet]

what about halford

[spring bolt]

she's far behind

but if you count rdps, she might win

[haughty pine]

Does completing a research ship entirely take them out of the research pool?

[blissful hamlet]

what's rdps?

[spring bolt]

buff/debuff that contributes to fleet dps, but will not reflect on her own dps

[blissful hamlet]

I see

[weary gust]

Yes, until all ships of that series are completed.

[spring bolt]

not sure if you don't have focus, but if you do, their face project will not appear again until you finish the whole season

[sweet delta]

~~just like flood/burn ~~

[blissful hamlet]

does halford plane contributes more than other DD torps?

[fallow sedge]

How do I obtain more data collection packs

[spring bolt]

not really, it's not that outstanding

[blissful hamlet]

but I want halford to be good

[spring bolt]

the ones to fast finish pr ship CDC missions? new player missions and world cruise

[sweet delta]

the people who ask how to get CDC packs are usually not getting it for this purpose

[stark quiver]

Is halford actually bad, compared to other gold dds

My message sent 20 mins after 💀

[sweet delta]

the average gold DD like kiev or laffey is not very good, so halford should be a bit better than them

[stark quiver]

So this is my ur gear situation rn, im thinking of making another mk7 with my selectors, is there something else better?

[sweet delta]

a +10 mk7 is only like 8% more damage than a +10 mk6

so i wouldn't recommend it when you have 2 +10 mk7s already

[stark quiver]

More dd guns I guess?

It’s between that, a 4th wyvern or another ur AA

[fickle void]

guys what are the other things i should get here

[sweet delta]

cant tell if you have 1344 or 13k vouchers

if 1344 then you shouldn't have bought the classified loggers

[undone plover]

how many selectors do u have? no harm in hanging on to them for now till u know what u will need
wyvern, dd gun and AA are all useful depending on what u want to do

[stark quiver]

I guess I’ll hold on to them

[blissful hamlet]

I would save if I were you, you have enough UR gear for most scenario

[sly rover]

If i wanted to build a Vanguard Fleet that can last longer so that their main Fleet performs more air strikes, is Napoli a great choice or is there another CB that can do better than her? 🤔

Because Napoli has a similar skill as anchorage

[blissful hamlet]

Napoli is great but all CB should be able to achieve your goal unless there's something wrong with your setup

Even anchorage is enough

[sly rover]

Im going with :
Main : Kearsage+Yorktown2+Enterprise
Vanguard :
Anchorage+sirius+helena

I wanted to make a 2nd CV Fleet for the siren Operation with Hakuryu as the main, thats why i wanted another anchorage

[stark quiver]

Eldridge boost ehp, and you want a slower in that team, luckily eld also has a slow

[blissful hamlet]

Any CB should be good enough

[sly rover]

Hakuryu+Shinano+Implacable
CB+Aurora+shimakaze

[spring bolt]

yeah eld sounds like a better idea, you don't have slow in your current setup, altho eld alone can't solve it completely, 60% slow is much better than nothing at all

[sharp socket]

are ruppy or chkalov any good

[stark quiver]

Not particularly

[spring bolt]

and sirius buff will stay after she sunk, you can safely sacrifice her

[opaque gate]

mikasa any good for boss fleet? than helena?

[sly rover]

Then Anchorage change to Agir?

[stark quiver]

Mikasa is kind of a meme, prolly will never be used unless for some niche reason, Helena on the other hand is good for boss fleet

[sly rover]

Fr? Even in siren Operation?

[blissful hamlet]

Only use aurora when vs light armor boss

[spring bolt]

ehhhh anchor to eldridge

[sharp socket]

any niche use or just bad

[blissful hamlet]

Swap aurora and sirius from other fleet

[stark quiver]

Skippable

[sharp socket]

alr ty i wont bother with them then

[sly rover]

Oh god i just saw her skill set she does better Eva buff than Anchorage

[stark quiver]

Do you have her retrofitted tho, like her retrofit item

[sly rover]

But her HP is not as good as Heavy Cruiser, so installing 2 repair kits is more suited for her than any Eva auxiliary

[spring bolt]

just to remember to use her after retrofit, if you don't have the retro item, stay with anchor

[sly rover]

I dont even have her man

[stark quiver]

Well do you have her retrofit item

[sly rover]

Uh no...

[stark quiver]

Unfortunate, well that’s a no go then

[sly rover]

Damn...

[sweet delta]

you weren't playing 3 months ago?

[sly rover]

Are there any tanking ships that i should know about?? I've been relying on the AL tier List Website, but it seems that it's not 100% reliable....

[sweet delta]

just aegir anchorage to start with

[sly rover]

No i got busy

[spring bolt]

the event was Aug 15 to Aug 28

[sly rover]

Yea i didnt touch the game at that time...

[barren tapir]

is the missile worth prioritizing if i have chang chun retrofitted

[sweet delta]

youre using ddg without missile?

[barren tapir]

well i just retroed her now, so...

she was shockingly cheap

[grizzled sundial]

In the gear lab there is this EU torp that is magnetic and can damage submarine , but i don't see it actually homing into anything , even firing from far left screen ?

[stark quiver]

Well that’s kinda the whole package of a ddg so yea

[sharp socket]

is CL rld tech any good

[barren tapir]

noted! i can get one in a few days and she still needs levelling anyhow

[sweet delta]

look closer, it's fast so has less time to home before it zooms past an enemy

[graceful kelp]

my goodness how does ppl grind the event so fast im only at 41k ...

[stark quiver]

It’s better than none I guess
Not high priority tho

[stark quiver]

A lot
Of oil, playtime and using the 2x plan

[white maple]

i just started playin like for 3 weeks now, i really wanna research KMS ships, but uhh my fleet tech is hella low. any tips for me to blitz this through. im at like 256 and i wanna get to like 700 soon

[soft raft]

1. This game is a marathon, not a sprint
2. You get tech points by Obtaining, MLB'ing, and lvl 120'ing ships of the respective faction you want points for

[graceful kelp]

ohh

[soft raft]

Also
3) Even if you get the waifu of your dreams right now, she wont be useful for a god damn while
4) If you havent reached like at least W9 then I wouldnt even bother with research ships as a whole yet

[white maple]

ye ive been like sprinting crazy pff ToT, getting roon and thinking of buying roon µ with the cores. tbh ik it'll take a lot of time i just really really wanna get agir and stuff

[spring bolt]

usually your goal is 630 so fdg unlocks, and after getting her, tech points won't be an issue
check the medal exchange, get tirpitz and bismarck
level your kms ships to at least lv70 and max limit break them
last resort will be farming war archive, which is not pleasent for new players

[grizzled sundial]

Roon muse , or any muse ship for that matter , does not contribute to fleet point so be careful

[soft raft]

Roon U isnt really worth it, esp for that price tag but you do you
she aint going anywhere And muse ships also dont give any form or tech

[white maple]

ooo that's good to know wait u saved my cores pff

[vital phoenix]

Only amity is a map drop right? Or mary celeste too?

[spring bolt]

also loli version gives no tech point, so don't level them if what you want is tech points

[grizzled sundial]

I do believe there is a guide regarding of upgrade which ship that you can get early to get enough tech point for FDG

[white maple]

alr alr ty, ig i gotta pray for like a KMS banner or something ToT

[spring bolt]

yeah that is a solution, a kms event will normally solve the tech point issue with no extra cost

[white maple]

yall r clutch thx, good info to know. just gonna spam the shop for those iron blood ships ig

[grizzled sundial]

Know that ship rarity also determine the amount of tech point she gonna give you :/

You can buy many destroyers , but a single battleship will always worth than a bunch of DD

[zenith heron]

But rarity does not always determine the better ship (unless its UR)

[spring bolt]

it's a topic regarding tech point, not ships being good or bad

[grizzled sundial]

Only the amount of resources you gonna spend on her to get Max limit break .

Ship give tech point when : you just unlock her , Max limit break her and she reach level 120 .

As for KMS banner, unfortunately it will be a while till we have another one of those banner rerun .

[quartz jungle]

For IX which DD gun is better for what ships? Only thing I know is that the one with the higher damage per shot should be on BB aux

[left cedar]

iirc, KMS maybe, but iirc SMS is quite close to rerun ...

where is cheeky and his predicts on dates of events ?

[soft raft]

SMS already reran

[spring bolt]

core data one is best

[soft raft]

blucher event however is the next event in line to rerun

[sweet delta]

12 pounder is better for all non-"BB"
Maybe old heavy is better against heavy, but you shouldn't be using them against heavy anyways

[left cedar]

already ? dammit, my memory is worse than i'm remembering ... damm

[sweet delta]

He's sick for a week

[left cedar]

idk wut u guys say in EN for that things, so i'm gona say it on my native "melhoras pra ele"

[sweet delta]

Gesundheit

[turbid latch]

medal exchange hs bismark and tirpitz?

[spring bolt]

yeah, they have been there for a while iirc

[soft raft]

Then may this jog your memory

[left cedar]

arigathanx

[soft raft]

Medal shop selection is randomized per server every month

[spring bolt]

you are unlucky and didn't get BB

[opaque gate]

who is the best pr3 ship? cuz i need to build one for quest

[soft raft]

Cheshire if you really had to choose

[opaque gate]

ok thanks

[left cedar]

PR3 ? ... none ? just go to 4

[forest palm]

4 > 5 > 7 > 6

[opaque gate]

it is just for the quest

[zenith heron]

Drake is sadly a poor choice for a DR...

[left cedar]

honestly ? go for waifu ... cuz nothing there have a real use nowadays

[forest palm]

Chesire exists

[opaque gate]

ok maybe just the easiest one to build

[spring bolt]

or you can cope for aug

[left cedar]

and she is hella worse than actual options ...

[forest palm]

Odin, and Mainz can be used for KMS Tech I guess

[opaque gate]

does BC and BB actually have a difference?

[forest palm]

Spd, and armor iirc

nothing else really

[soft raft]

the main difference is hard mode requirements

[left cedar]

yesnt
in theory they are equal in general things, nothing in gameplay mechanics make them difference

but in practice, things are a bit worse for BCs, they have less HP in comparison, worse armor for a main ship, and trade that for EVA, and isnt a significant change to save them

[opaque gate]

oooh thanks

[forest palm]

basically so insignificant that it's inconsequential

[opaque gate]

how much adaptive tuning is needed to start abyssal? i found another abyssal

[forest palm]

depends on the corrosion

[opaque gate]

6

[sweet delta]

Zero is needed, but a new player had better have like 120+ depending on the corrosion level

[forest palm]

150/150/x should do enough

[left cedar]

techinically can be done with 0
minimun its something like 150 that u can neutral the debuff
to make it easier around 188/188/144 (wut is stronghold, Abyss C6 is a bit less)

isnt +/- 150 a "neutral" point ?

[left cedar]

Abyss C6

[versed forum]

Who's priority here? I can only lmb 3 ships

[left cedar]

Enty by far ...
after that ... maybe 96?
and thinking in campaign progress and general use that is it ?
maybe u wanna hein for Tanking ... but that it will depends on ur progress to Ancho and Agir ...

[blissful hamlet]

Enty

[left cedar]

Lusty can be a thing much futher in campaign cuz W15 supp fleet

for Tech, pretty much all them exceptions to Eugen, Tallin and Frigates have gud tech

[late flame]

illustrious is kinda low prio though until w15

[left cedar]

thats why i state "much futher"

[sweet delta]

💀 how many gold bulins did you get in the time it took to get all those ships to 70

[late flame]

on the bright side eugen isnt mlb and oathed

[left cedar]

any problem with that ?
cuz is exactly wut i did in something like 4 days playing

[versed forum]

okay enty > blemen and prince h for tech?

[sweet delta]

uhh no

not bremerton

[versed forum]

I thought she's good on tech

[sweet delta]

you need eagle union tech? buy the purple BBs from guild shop

[left cedar]

that is for future ... after u reach farmlands or after finish W14 or 15

u really wanna tech farming atleast after finish W12

[late flame]

just back from lunch - nah i did the exact same thing lol
just that in my relatively short stay (1.5yrs of AL) i've seen too many newer players fall into that gold bulin resource sink for a ship thats mainly just waifu

[opaque gate]

what place is the best to grind dataexp?