gameplay-help

[barren tapir]

1:1 more efficient for point but you lose alot of exp so

[sweet delta]

If you want neither gun and have lots of time then do T4

[left cedar]

by my maths, my T6 pts/oil i get 1.13 and can be improved ... if i make a cheaper bossfleet and stop being dumb and start to use Ranger/Cass or Down

[silk helm]

ohh okay

[barren tapir]

i wonder how much ppl will farm, to still need more oil efficiency than t5 my oil go down so slow since i also need to do a lot of opsi, i will claim weekly pack just in time and barely be under my soft cap

[cursive lark]

Will the 12-4 offset for the rest of the oil covers the EXP difference?

Okay Imma start normalizing lowcost.

[left cedar]

XP and Coin by W12 is alot more valuable than XP coin in event ...
eco in events mean more oil in W12 for more coins and XP over time

BUT event points and Shop is alot more valuable than just XP and Coins

[cursive lark]

Only valuable until the elite cats though

[left cedar]

so farming till 55k with low cost and go to W12 to farm and lvling ships it will be a thing

[plush moon]

who should i pick for Napoli farm fleet ?

[atomic abyss]

chappy and og tash are the best ships there not named kron
tash and voro are used in nakhimov comps

iirc, some of the DDs have decent tech too?

[inner delta]

pre sure everyone other than tallin and tash muse has fp

cuz i have them lved, so must be fp

[cursive lark]

I think it's time for me to contribute by making a documentation for the resource income and their spending, since I'm tired of people whining about cogs

[errant fog]

WHat's the best fleet to auto nagato meta?

[left cedar]

iirc Kursk, Pola, Zara, Gori, Kiro, Kuyby, Duca and Giu have FP Tech

[cursive lark]

The problem is quantifying the value though, something like cats is difficult to consider

[hollow gust]

if you level your ships you will always be negative cog

[plush moon]

thanks, ig i'll just do this

[hollow gust]

use jimmy comp

[inner delta]

@plush moon btw, never use script

or you will be banned :)

[cursive lark]

Just level 120 ships instead to save up some cogs and use array

[hollow gust]

...........

[cursive lark]

And then juggle

[barren tapir]

wut

[errant fog]

..... wait who?

[left cedar]

imagine not Tech farming cuz u wanna be sitted on a huge amount of cogs for ... idk why

[cursive lark]

If I low on cogs I will level powerful ships like aquila from 120 to 125

If I am high on cogs I will level tech shitters to 120

[inner delta]

that's like a waste on shit ship, and everyone here that actually does tech have those good ship at 125

[sweet delta]

I will level powerful ships to 125 no matter how many cogs i have

[hollow gust]

people who are leveling for tech already have all the meta ships maxed?? thats such a bad take

[hollow gust]

https://youtu.be/pxbmo_t8zJQ?si=djWiyOoYPQtTeL0s

[remote quarry]

I have some I regret taking to 125 back when the level cap was first raised.

[left cedar]

i will 125 my waifus and some gud ships to 125
but i will lvl almost all CLs and biggers ships to 120 cuz i wanna tech stats

[errant fog]

oooh, tq

[icy cave]

what are some low oil teams for event?

[remote quarry]

It has oil cap, use any team

[forest palm]

not me leveling a Imp, and Amagi dupe, along with the Atago class

[left cedar]

Ranger/ Cassin or Down

[barren tapir]

"flexing"

[spring bolt]

Voroshilov has cl eva +1
Kirov, Duca, Giuseppe, have cl fp +2
Trento, pola have ca/cb hit +1

[cursive lark]

I guess technically I was wrong since I was assuming that people do not 125 powerful ships asap and left them at 120 first, which shouldn't happen since those ships might be relevant for the current content

[keen mural]

i'm kinda new, what do you guys mean by tech farming?

[barren tapir]

is kidd any good?

[remote quarry]

Some powerful ships I leave at 120 if I know I will need them for PR EXP farming soon, that way no wasted EXP

[atomic abyss]

you get an additional stat boost to all ships for unlocking and getting a ship to lv 120
this is the end game grind of AL

[remote quarry]

The more ships you get to certain breakpoints, the more bonus stats you get from Fleet and Faction tech

[spring bolt]

leveling ships to lv120 for tech bonus

[forest palm]

there's Fleet Tech, and Faction Tech, Fleet Tech is perm stats that apply across all ships, Faction Tech is tech built up by collecting ships of a particular faction this is mostly relevant for Research Ships

[keen mural]

oh i see, thanks

[left cedar]

if u already lvling for Tech u already pass through "need" of powerfull ships, and cog lacking isnt a problem, if u know how to administrate or resources u will keep a minimun amount for special ocassions, that happens pretty much in Feb, May, Sep and Dec and Tech Farming everything else

[remote quarry]

Or you can be a massive whale, buy out all the packs each month, gem for oil, and level all the things

[cursive lark]

So it was just my generalization fallacy since in my case I was not planning to level nakh and cvamagi to 125 until I see they are worthy. But since they are and I was levelling, I notice a significant chips save because 120-125 takes more exp and eats less chip

[inner delta]

unless you actually just ran out of backline you will always still need cog since it's kinda just be deficit, you just kinda control your pacing of lving 120s instead

[inner delta]

yeah everyone that actually do tech lv them 125 already and it doesn't even take a week

[cursive lark]

Isn't that because of testing and cooking?

[inner delta]

yes

so like there's no "guide of solving cogs" other than just pacing

[left cedar]

i always keep a minimun of 10k cogs for eventually needs to 120 asap a ship cuz strong

aside that minimun, once i'm near to hit that, i make a prio something like BB/CV(HIT > FP/AVI) > CA(EVA > FP > Hit) > CL (EVA > FP) > dosnt matter much mostly waifus

[inner delta]

that's everyone prio

[left cedar]

naah, i dont lvl dds

[inner delta]

can't believe you dont add dd fp

[spring bolt]

you forgot ca hit

[left cedar]

i dont use DDs at all

[inner delta]

yeah ca/cb hit

[sweet delta]

Does suisei 21 intercept?

[cursive lark]

But then you can't level 3 dd shitters at once in ch12 so you decide to mix and match

[remote quarry]

DD Torp stat boost can be good for PvP though

[left cedar]

are u sure about that

[cursive lark]

Sorry might not*

[sweet delta]

I have news for you

[inner delta]

you can lv 3 dd in w12

[sweet delta]

Tech doesn't apply in pvp

[remote quarry]

Well, thats sad

[left cedar]

i can proof i can lvl 3 shitty DDs, with low to almost no DD tech, and bad backline in W12

[remote quarry]

oh well, torps still good in some META fights. Very good against Nagato META right now

[cursive lark]

Z20, z21, and shiranui

[inner delta]

z20 is dd hp, no one lving her

[cursive lark]

For mog survivability

[spring bolt]

trick is using AR or tempesta so they have ammo and won't overtime
even 3 shitty dds with 0lb backlines + AR won't die when farming ch 12

[left cedar]

i cant Z20 and Z21 since this ones i got them in 125 already

[remote quarry]

Honestly, I just wait till events to level my shitters

[cursive lark]

But for some reason oaths do

What an unfair gamemode

[left cedar]

Pvp does apply debuffs for CA/CBs and buff DDs, this is my main reason to hate it

[orchid heath]

can someone help?, how can you guys add friend on azur lane?

[cursive lark]

Idk I don't have one

[left cedar]

both need to be in same server, them iirc u need a certain lvl to get acess to that feature, something like lvl 10, and them u go to friends and search by name or id

[remote quarry]

To add friends in Azur Lane, you can:
Select the Friend menu in the game's bottom left corner
Select the second tab
Choose the players you want to add as friends from the list
Click the Invite Friends button on the left and use a player's personal code
Add the player you are currently visiting as a friend
You can share your unique code with other players so they can add you as a friend.

[orchid heath]

ok ty

[remote quarry]

I've never done it, but thats what google-kun says to do

[cursive lark]

Okay so question, is it true that people no matter what people, always ran out of coins during event?

Especially SR event no nvm

[remote quarry]

lol, no. Just play the game, coins are the lowest problem

[orchid heath]

I dont see the friend menu tho

[left cedar]

if u get lucky as i got in Amagi, them no, u dont runout of coins
i got them all in 1 pull of 10 ships ... so only 15k coins spend

[cursive lark]

Wait why the hell the thing showed up and sent immediately

[spring bolt]

ur pity is 300k coins and the coin hard cap is 600k, so...

[cursive lark]

Pretty sure elites have lower chance right

[remote quarry]

Plus, you can always just buy coins for gems, so really you can never run out

[cursive lark]

Is there a threshold that one should stop pulling or just keep trying until the end of event?

[tame jungle]

yes personal judgment

[remote quarry]

Up to you, and how many resources you want to save for upcoming events

[cursive lark]

Since I find that 1500 coins hurt less and less anyway the more I pull

[subtle cloud]

is T6 fine for exp farming?

[remote quarry]

I'm going all out this event, because I need gear for my all-pirate fleet

[spring bolt]

only when bad luck happens. usually you can expect getting all non ur at 150 pulls 90% of the time

[remote quarry]

EXp should be a side consideration in event maps. Its meh, but you can clear it with basically any ships, so just use those that work with your current PRI research

[subtle cloud]

alr thanks

[cursive lark]

Ah I haven't calculated the 12-4 plus T5 vs T6 in event considering amitu drop

[spring bolt]

t6 exp per oil is lower than t5, rough calculation tho

[cursive lark]

What about points per oil?

[subtle cloud]

that's ok I haven't unlocked 12-4 yet anyway

[spring bolt]

also lower, if capped

[subtle cloud]

thanks though

[remote quarry]

I would farm T5 until 2 full guns, then T6 untilAmity plus at least 6 guns, then back to t5 until you buy out the shop. Thats my strategy at least

[cursive lark]

That's considering amity drops?

[spring bolt]

not considered

well she's just 8k pt so no big deal

also t6 gun is worse than core data one

[cursive lark]

If you think you will use Ganj or Martin before next year where probably they add the demi cannon, you should farm t5

[remote quarry]

It is, but a lot of people need core data fro other things.

[cursive lark]

It's 80 per run considering 1%, it brings 180 to 260 points

[spring bolt]

people who still need core data should not level tempesta ships

[subtle cloud]

my main goal is fancy but I've managed every event ship but her

is it relevant on her?

[cursive lark]

T6 then honestly idk

[sweet delta]

Fancy really needs at least one 12pounder from core shop

[remote quarry]

Except maybe one of the submarine ones for easy Weekly challege clear

[cursive lark]

I am still bedridden and can't access my laptop for rigorous calculation whether t5 or t6 is better overall without considering gun drops for each case of highest campaign stage you can clear

[remote quarry]

Excel has a mobile app

[subtle cloud]

fret not I have 2 of those from some previous event just sitting on royal fortune

[cursive lark]

It's just so bad typing on phone since my phone does not have some symbols at one keyboard

Bigger screen easier to scroll and block things too

[cursive lark]

Where's the fun

Managing torp count, using AoA at correct times, switching and min maxing torps

[sweet delta]

Some people can't manual to save their life

[cursive lark]

Hmm I guess yeah true not all people is perfect

[spring bolt]

using oil on guns that will be replaced and raising a sub only for that weekly mission... not really a good idea to me...
considering core data becomes excessive very soon, i think the cost is lower this way

[remote quarry]

Would be easier if we could just connect a controller. I know I have issues using touch controls for maneuvering. My fingers do not always register properly (thanks diabetic nerve damage...)

[cobalt rapids]

u can connect controllers on emus

[remote quarry]

I was talking about touch controls, so talking about my phone

[spring bolt]

well i know some controllers are compatible with android phones but it's kinda off topic

[soft dagger]

which one? any emus?

[sweet delta]

it's the 40k power skk

[cursive lark]

I'm sorry to hear that

Sorry for being inconsiderate

[soft dagger]

it's the best technical player skk

[spring bolt]

my ps4 controller works on mumu and ld

[forest palm]

[cursive lark]

[ebon verge]

Which cat is better between robert and bellamy

[cursive lark]

They might be too 🚮 to be considered which is better

[cyan geode]

does rarities affect how much xp is needed for a ship to level up?

[sweet delta]

Ships that start as rainbows need like 20% more than others

[ebon verge]

So just Every and Steel for sub fleet ?

[cyan geode]

thanks, was working on my fleet tech and was thinking if i should level up my commons first. alreaady got most of my boss fleets and opsi teams levelled

[atomic abyss]

steel and edelweiss for sub

[ebon verge]

Oh i thought Every was for the sail frigate thing

[spring bolt]

every is a bb cat

[left tiger]

Is there a way to skip these notif?

[left tiger]

Thanks

[cursive lark]

Is it not the best cat for soycat comp?

[outer knot]

does repeat sortie cost more oil?

[cursive lark]

You will spend more oil

For example if you do 1 more sortie, then you will spend some more oil

[outer knot]

but does 3x repeat sortie oil cost = oil cost of 3 individual runs?

[cursive lark]

If 287 is the cost, it will cost you 287 more

[outer knot]

thank you!

[spring bolt]

what is a soycat?

[stark quiver]

soyuz + nakh
pretty sure

[crimson glacier]

soyuz nak i think

[stark quiver]

so many random abbreviations

[spring bolt]

oh...
in 2bb 1cv comp it's top tier, yes
1bb 2cv it might not be that good but still decent

mainly due to the missing cv rld

[hollow gust]

Nahkimov is wasted with Soyuz

[left cedar]

for me she will be always Neko
and i still dont like mixed BB/CV Fleet in Op.Si ...
for campaign is needed, but in Op.Si i think is a waste of potential of both fleets

[reef flume]

Can anybody explain me why Nakh is good? Like, I readed her skills and stuff but she seems like a nerfed Implacable. Her slow and eva debuff seems worse than Implacable, so why is she that good?

(Prob Nakh enjoyers will curse me to death now)

[stark quiver]

she does good damage and has a slowing skill

well she didnt nerf implac because nakh needs a northern parliament ship to activate the slow

[cobalt rapids]

she does more dmg than implac and fills the freeze slot aswell in her optimal fleets

but implac is more flexible which means where freeze is very valuable and the tradeoff for nyahki activation isnt worth it implac will stay

[reef flume]

So in few words; she is an Implac with worse support but more dmg right? In which scenarios Nakh is better than Implacable? Aside from NP comps ofc (if there are)

[crimson glacier]

isnt she basically same support as imp but only when her NP condition is filled

[forest palm]

Nahk is an awkward slow support that should do more damage than Imp

[cobalt rapids]

when running her activator is ideal and the contribution to ur fleet is overall greater
there arent rly that many great activators for her so tldr rn its soyuz

[reef flume]

I see

[cobalt rapids]

its simple
nyahki + her activator has to beat in contribution implac + any other contributor possible that ur fleet could benefit from for her tradeoff to be worth it

[spring bolt]

we need a tash max pro plus

[reef flume]

I understand. Also, I heard she is the best med armor CV is that true?

[forest palm]

I cbf to use Nakh unless it's the best choice for a meta the comp is annoying to tune

[cobalt rapids]

prob because soyuz also performs great against medium so it just happens coincidentally

[reef flume]

Fr

[ornate narwhal]

Is anyone here good? I need to upgrade someone bc I have too many commons

[sweet delta]

because she can use 2 la9 but that doesnt mean you have 2 la9

[reef flume]

like she is the only one who can

[cobalt rapids]

is ur fleet 1 fully enhanced

[ornate narwhal]

Yes

[cobalt rapids]

then nelson and fancy ig

[ornate narwhal]

How often does the game go for maintenance? Every week?

[cobalt rapids]

not always, depends if theres a patch to be had

[ornate narwhal]

Oh so whenever banners change?

[cobalt rapids]

well not only

[haughty dust]

@atomic abyss finally got another one of these. Should I put it on one of the characters you sent me a while back for the operation siren?

[atomic abyss]

3 for your 3 BBs in the BB fleet

[atomic abyss]

nelson

[half plover]

at which LB is azuma decent? like at least as strong as a normal good epic/sr tank

[haughty dust]

@atomic abyss do I need to keep this fleet formation in the fleet maker tool now that I have three of those guns?

[atomic abyss]

it wouldnt change unless you have better UR BBs

[haughty dust]

like who? Are you saying those URs are not good?

[atomic abyss]

you use that purple gun for light armoured bosses
you use this gun for med/heavy armour bosses

[forest palm]

25 she's usable, but like just use portland at that point, 30 better than portland, still wouldn't use her because of gun restriction, so really she has the best use at F5

[atomic abyss]

soyuz, bismarck zwei, vanguard would all replace NJ and FdG

nj and fdg are just the worst of the UR BBs besides warspite

[half plover]

UvH is better than FdG?

[atomic abyss]

around the same

[haughty dust]

I have to check what level Vanguard is but I should be able to use her next month as I just need 1 more UR bulin to mlb her. But out of chances this month to have enough material to get from the shop. How do you ge the other two you mentioned?

[half plover]

so I should really mlb musashi on her rerun to replace FdG if the new URs wont be BB in december

[atomic abyss]

event limited

the other 2 UR BBs are event limited still

[haughty dust]

Do we know roughly when those events return next?

[half plover]

probably in end of january / february for musashi

[atomic abyss]

at least another 10 months for bis zwei

soyuz close to 1.5 years

[reef flume]

Zwei likely summer 2025 while Soyuz 2026

[atomic abyss]

musashi would replace fdg

no news on the date

[haughty dust]

That is a long time away! (Insert Jeopardy theme song here)

[atomic abyss]

2 years for reruns after all

[stark quiver]

Well this is a waiting game

[reef flume]

But it's likely in these two years new ships that will perform better will be released, just like what happened in the two years between NJ rerun

[haughty dust]

I see.

when were those two ships last available just out of curiousity?

[atomic abyss]

bis zwei was jun 2023
soyuz mar 2024

[reef flume]

Btw is Zwei still the BB with the highest light armor damage or that title belongs to Alsace now? Cuz I saw that Alsace barrage has 150 light armor modifier (compared to Zwei's 140 light armor modifier)

[sweet delta]

alsace does more damage when battles are short

[reef flume]

Why?

[atomic abyss]

preload

benefit of the preload is lost in extended battles

alsace individual salvos+barrages do less

[reef flume]

I see

[haughty dust]

my Vanguard btw is level 114 at the current moment.

Is this ship any good?

[atomic abyss]

good but not worth using for you

[haughty dust]

How so exactly?

[atomic abyss]

well, she's not a UR CV

she's not enterprise

she's not a freezer
she's not a healer

she doesnt have preloads

[haughty dust]

so basically, just fleet tech, I guess?

[atomic abyss]

good carrier, but has nothing outstanding

yeah +2 avi for fleet tech

[stark quiver]

not enterprise is crazy

[haughty dust]

so basically fleet tech points, and that’s about it or for collections and that’s about it?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[quartz nest]

Up til what chapter does the main story give gems in the side missions?

[atomic abyss]

all of them do for 3*

[quartz nest]

Oh cool, thanks

[worthy thunder]

Is Fancy considered a decent ship? Is it worth investing resources into?

[left cedar]

to early to say for sure, but she in considerable chonky for Op.Si General, till W12 she will be as well, but nothing general and focused in hard content

[worthy thunder]

Oki thank you!!

[torn salmon]

i wasted a lot of cubes on her

but got her n the end

[atomic abyss]

no

considerably harder to gear

[torn salmon]

whats her loadout ?

[atomic abyss]

she's a tempesta

they can only use their own guns

[worthy thunder]

okay, should I still get her weapons during the event?

[atomic abyss]

her tankiness is slightly above port kai

[torn salmon]

luckily i have guns from the first two events

[atomic abyss]

you can just for collection, but i wouldnt bother using her

[worthy thunder]

oki appreciate it

[torn salmon]

chances are higher i use her instead of using any of the little ships

[slow fox]

106 is without skills~

With her skills, that'd be 130 or so.

[atomic abyss]

prolly the best tempesta by far

[sweet delta]

MeBot sPotted

[atomic abyss]

still wouldnt recommend her tho

[slow fox]

I only wish Golden Hind had her eHP. 💍

[slow fox]

SuchiSigma

[dusky vale]

is there a boss for sp stage or do i just clear out all the mobs

[slow fox]

There is a boss.

[dusky vale]

oh ok

do i need to clear all the mobs for it to appear

[atomic abyss]

7 mobs to spawn boss

[dusky vale]

i see

theres no stars that i need to get so i can just kill 7 of the easy ones and do the boss right? no need to kill all of them?

[tame jungle]

No stars

[tame jungle]

Opsi

There’s selectors in shop and rng chance for certain enemies

[torn salmon]

from the chest bosses or the haunted zones ?

[tame jungle]

The siren loggers

[sweet delta]

Port shops, siren loggers (abyssal), classified loggers, normal arbiter, cat nodes so basically everywhere

[worthy thunder]

So I might've missed it if they explained it in the game but is Operation SIren like a weekly challenge thing?

[tame jungle]

It’s a separate monthly thing

[sweet delta]

But you should be looking for UR Airplane designs, not UR main gun designs

[tame jungle]

If you’re really new you probably don’t have access to opsi yet

[torn salmon]

me ? no

[tame jungle]

The other guy

Unless you’re replying to suchi

[worthy thunder]

Yeah I was just wondering, trying to figure the game out 😄

[languid reef]

when an enemy ship gets to the main fleet, how does the damage get distributed?

i see a ship get to the back of my fleet towards the direction of the bottom ship, but then the top one gets damaged. how does that work?

[hollow gust]

Random

[tropic tusk]

is 3u better or tempsta better?

[sweet delta]

depends on the enemy...

[stark quiver]

whos 3u

[tropic tusk]

say w14 w15

[stark quiver]

tempesta is ass in high stages

[tropic tusk]

how about opsi?

[stark quiver]

still kinda ass
ive seen homura being used for one striking and thats it

[tropic tusk]

so tempsta is just for collection then

[sweet delta]

Amity is the goat

[forest palm]

unless they decide to tailor make content for them, yes

[torn salmon]

maybe creating a whole fleet for them where they get better buffs

[tropic tusk]

rip

[torn salmon]

game wise

[tropic tusk]

is 2 enough?

should i start farming t5 instead now?

[undone plover]

other way around
farm T5 for 1-2 demi cannon (1 is enough tbh unless u want to run sao + ganji together for some reason)
then can go back to T6 if u still need to farm event

[tropic tusk]

ok thx ill try to get 2 then

[undone plover]

it is not the meta thing to do tbh
tempesta are just flavor especially backline so only do this if u like them

but T5 is also more oil efficient to farm then T6 for tokens anyway so not like u are losing much by farming T5 over 6

[tropic tusk]

i want everyhitng in the game so yea ill get to get all item if i can

[stark quiver]

max collection grinder?

[undone plover]

well the demi cannon could be added to a shop at some point but up to you what u want to do
like I said there is no harm in farming T5 (maybe u dont get amity if u stay there whole event but u can always buy her in the shop later )

[tropic tusk]

well i only been playing since nov 24 2023

[sweet delta]

you are called WolfCybre

[forest palm]

for almost a year of playing that's good progress

[stark quiver]

more progress than me in 4 years 💀

[tropic tusk]

i play non stop daily

[stark quiver]

how many wolfcybres are there
i have seen many

[tropic tusk]

even put the game on idle when i dont play and just click it every few min

wts wolfcyber

[sweet delta]

@storm heron @cursive lark now there are 3 of them, who's the imposter?

[forest palm]

me having AL running while I work at my desk

[tropic tusk]

i even run the game in class

even the professor was like wt are u doing

[tame jungle]

The account sharing??

[tropic tusk]

no only i play it

i only sleep like 5 h a day lol

then rest just keep playing this and other game at the same time

[keen mural]

[worthy thunder]

[forest palm]

[tame jungle]

That’s not something to brag about

[tropic tusk]

i mean u think i share the account im just telling u im the only one playing it

[worthy thunder]

was most likely just a joke since there's several people called/going by the name wolfcybre

[tropic tusk]

dont know this wolfcybre

[sweet delta]

[half plover]

@cursive lark

[tropic tusk]

y wht is with that guy wht did he do

[worthy thunder]

i dunno if im missing a joke here or something but your accounts name is literally wolfcybre

[tropic tusk]

oh wait now i see it

there me

[tame jungle]

Uhhhhhhhhhh

[tropic tusk]

mb

[forest palm]

[worthy thunder]

this makes me even more confused

[tropic tusk]

sorry guys im blind

[half plover]

tbh 75% collection in just one year would have been crazy ngl

[forest palm]

64% is still good for almost a year

[tropic tusk]

i started playing when the ninja event came so i didnt get all from that event, but after that i didnt miss a single pool

[stark quiver]

howd you get that other screenshot

[tropic tusk]

he posted it below mine and i also had that unicorn skin on use xD

[worthy thunder]

ohhhh lol

[tame jungle]

Also wolfcybre guy’s ign seems to be donald trump lol

[hollow gust]

doubt

donald trump is good at the game

[tame jungle]

Unless ppl just out here posting each other’s screenshots

[foggy phoenix]

I am somewhat new to Operation Siren. I finished the Story. A friend of mine said that I can get a Data Logger for 5k Oil in the Exchange Shop. However that isn't there. Also how do you get the vouchers for said shop?

[sweet delta]

if you finished story and the map says "operation siren resets in 3 days" or something in the upper left, then you get vouchers on November 1

and the 5k oil appears after you reset

and this has the voucher conversion (your storage also tells you how many you'll get) https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Reset

[ornate narwhal]

How do I get coins quickly?

[sweet delta]

play T5 or T6

[copper ermine]

if i have 260 cubes will I be able to build them up in time for the ur event?

[tired condor]

is there any way to change what gets quick retired

[tame jungle]

Click the cog on the bottom left of the retire screen

[tired condor]

i just wanna retire white ships. so prioritize rarity 1 should be set to N?

[copper ermine]

if i need a flagship would echanging for new jersey/Ulrich von Hutten be a good idea or would Friedrich be better since im close to the tech point requirement?

[barren tapir]

would fancy be a decent mob tank, i am in need of one currently

[sweet delta]

Exchange for Shinano until Shinano is MLB, so get fdg

[barren tapir]

so is it yes or no

[forest palm]

no UR is worth using if they're not MLB

[barren tapir]

my current other options are phoenix and neptune (portland is boss tank)

working on tech points to begin anchorage but it'll take some time

[grizzled sundial]

My problem with pirate ships is that theirs gear are hard to gather / upgrade , especially a backline frigate . Depend on if you just start or not , even Elite barrage battleship is easier to upgrade to theirs full power compare to frigate...

[sweet delta]

but fancy isn't a backline

[forest palm]

Sailing Frigates are annoying to gear, and there's little excuse to use them

[sweet delta]

just wait for tempesta gear pack and you have 4 out of 6 of her best gear, then add a toolkit and her augment and ggez strong tank

[grizzled sundial]

May as well work with a decent tank and inching your way forward to unlock more game contents and better tank than wait for a specific tank to get the gear she need via an update...

[sweet delta]

3 days isn't a long time to wait

[boreal wagon]

except its more like 8 days

bc it comes from day 5 of part 2 of secret shipyard which is another 7 days long

[sweet delta]

but is part 2 another 7 days long?

[boreal wagon]

yes

7 days part 1, 7 days part 2
day 5 of part 2 should give the pack

thats how it was last year, ofc it could be that they removed the time gating of part 2 but considering they didnt for part 1 i highly doubt it

[sweet delta]

that seems like an oversight by t he devs to not give any leeway, you would need to play on november 6 to get all rewards

[boreal wagon]

yeah maybe part 2 doesnt have the time gate

[undone plover]

I think these unlock retroactivally
it is only time gated going forward
even if u login day 14 it will all be unlocked

[sweet delta]

yeah but i don't think they've ever done an event where you absolutely had to log in on the last day

[boreal wagon]

they do, but day 14 is also the last day

[grizzled sundial]

My Amnity have LB 2 times , i got another of her copy from T6 , should i buy the last copy in shop or just wait for gold bulin ?

[undone plover]

oh I see what u mean

[atomic abyss]

Wait to see if you drop her again

[grizzled sundial]

Unfortunately , i am farming T5 now :/

[undone plover]

8k tokens is not worth what amounts to essentially a bulin unless u are a mid level player not gated by cog chips and also WANT to use amity for some reason

[tame jungle]

the shop doesn't go away for a while

[grizzled sundial]

8000 is a lot , so yeah , want to be smart about how to spend this .

[atomic abyss]

Regardless, you can make the choice later

[barren tapir]

yea thats basically what i was thinking, secret shipyard will get a full gearset for her

also she's cool and right now i dont have many/any better option so i figured i can safely take the excuse to use her for a while

[undone plover]

biggest problem for a new player is she doesnt give EU or KMS tech/cdc and they kinda want those for anchor/FdG

assuming she is actually decent

[atomic abyss]

That's not the biggest problem

The biggest problem is gold bulins

Also actually spending cubes to get her

[undone plover]

well kinda but that goes for basically any SR ship

[barren tapir]

i got her on my 3 a day (which im doing because i have 400+ cubes and because i want the ships)

and i'm at world 12 so exp isnt really an issue i can level other ships for tech point

[undone plover]

if u are in chapter 12 then u can raise her if u want
she wont hurt your progression
It is just that some ppl would prefer to invest gold bulins into ships that give better fleet/faction tech
I will say if u are still pulling event maybe wait till u are done
why waste bulins only to get a dupe down the line

[grizzled sundial]

Was there backline frigate last year ? Will they put backline frigate cannon in core shop ?

[sweet delta]

SAO Martinho, and no news

[undone plover]

sao martinho was backline
and no one knows about the cannon
it is possible but 🔮

[slow fox]

Anchorage mentioned

[shell willow]

in what order does vanguard shoot preloaded torps?

[sweet delta]

all from main tank, all from middle, all from off tank

[shell willow]

thx

[forest palm]

[polar lion]

Is it wurf to farm event gears?

[grizzled sundial]

Are you gonna use those ship ? Yes , may be ? No , may be not . But you still gonna need to farm event point for free loots

[polar lion]

Hmm, I farmed their gears during their 1st Gen event in case I ever need to use them for some content later down the line but ended up never came to that.

[grizzled sundial]

T5 give gold gun for backline frigate and no shop is selling them , T6 gold gun is for vanguard frigate which can be substitued by 12 pounders from core shop , also have chance of dropping Amity , pick your poison i guess .

[ornate narwhal]

Which anti air guns should I give my team? My team is Pennsylvania, Portland, Helena, Unicorn, Laffey and Enterprise

[atomic abyss]

What AA guns do you have

[barren tapir]

purple quad bofors is prolly the most accessible thing you might have, prioritize it on ship with high AA and efficiency. i wouldnt worry too much about AA until world 13 tho

[opaque gate]

what type of research should i avoid and get if i want to maxdev hakuryu and get tenrai?

[atomic abyss]

Purple bofors on Helena
For the rest, any purple AA

[atomic abyss]

They're mutually exclusive

Prioritise Hakuryuu face researches and then blue/yellow rigging analysis

[ornate narwhal]

So these builds good?

[opaque gate]

ok thanks, is there a type of research i should avoid?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

The same ones you've already been avoiding

[ornate narwhal]

Yay! Nothing I should change?

[atomic abyss]

For now at least, nothing

[ornate narwhal]

So just get all their equipment to +10?

[atomic abyss]

No

[opaque gate]

like the long projects and cube analysis?

[atomic abyss]

Do not upgrade the AA past +6

[ornate narwhal]

Any of them?

[atomic abyss]

All purple AA are worse than gold AA

You can +10 the Helldiver enterprise has

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

So besides AA everything to +10?

[atomic abyss]

No

[ornate narwhal]

Oh

[atomic abyss]

Everything else not upgraded to +10 kept at +6

[ornate narwhal]

So leave everything at +6 besides helldiver

[atomic abyss]

There is no point in upgrading transitionary gear to +10

Helldiver and Pennsylvania main gun to +10 (which you already did)

[ornate narwhal]

How bout toolboxes?

And the blue evasion stuff

[atomic abyss]

Toolboxes fine to +10

[ornate narwhal]

And the gold stuff I have?

[atomic abyss]

Naval camo caps at +7

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

The only gold stuff you have are the torps tho

[ornate narwhal]

I have the steam cannon but it’s already +9

[atomic abyss]

Ah right
That's fine to +10
It's the best carrier aux

[ornate narwhal]

And after I retrofit Portland should I do Helena or Laffey

[atomic abyss]

Laffey as you need it for the beginner missions

Helena retro is low priority

[ornate narwhal]

Ok ok

For beginner missions I need to oath someone, is it ok to oath Enterprise?

[atomic abyss]

Whomever you want

[sharp socket]

oath your waifu

[atomic abyss]

Oathing for meta is the territory of whales

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

How do I get gold fast? Bc I just got to lvl 70 and need to upgrade my gold mine thing and my book factory

[atomic abyss]

The same way you get more exp

Farm maps

[ornate narwhal]

Ok should I upgrade anyone to lvl 125 or just get them to 120

[atomic abyss]

Given your shortage of coins

And arrays

[sharp socket]

arrays can be rare early on so id suggest hold off 125

[atomic abyss]

Prioritise 120 for your backliners

125 can wait

[ornate narwhal]

And front line?

[sharp socket]

in your early fleets only unicorn is worth 125

[ornate narwhal]

Not enterprise?

[atomic abyss]

Frontline is lower prio

I'd say both Uni and Enterprise

[ornate narwhal]

I’ll just leave them where they are fn then and focus on back line

[sharp socket]

enterprise is also good for 125 yea

[atomic abyss]

Penny will be replaced so keeping her at 120 is fine

[ornate narwhal]

Everything costs so much coins

[atomic abyss]

Hence what I said about putting upgrading your ships to 120 for later

[sharp socket]

oil cap maps like w9+ and current event T5/6 give good coins

[ornate narwhal]

Who should I replace her with?

[atomic abyss]

You have nothing to replace her with at the moment

[ornate narwhal]

I’m farming t6 rn

[atomic abyss]

I'm saying it as an eventuality

[sharp socket]

farm T5 unless you want ship/gear drop

[ornate narwhal]

From the free SR is Hood or San Diego good?

[atomic abyss]

Hood without question

[ornate narwhal]

Yea I want the SR to hopefully limit my grinding

[ornate narwhal]

Would she replace Pennsylvania?

[atomic abyss]

She would
Or you would use her in a second fleet if you can build one already (you can't)

[ornate narwhal]

What would I need to do to start building a second fleet?

[half plover]

reach at least chapter 9 so you can efficiently farm exp

[ornate narwhal]

From here should I buy the rainbow bullin?

[half plover]

you will buy them sooner or later but they dont have a monthly/daily limit etc so rn they would only mess up your dock space

[spring bolt]

about time to start working on your IB tech btw
i recommend getting tirpitz but some people here prefers farming war archive for some reason

[half plover]

so just get them when you can afford to max limit break an UR ship

[ornate narwhal]

What’s IB?

[spring bolt]

iron blood, german

[ornate narwhal]

Oh I still only have like 3…

[spring bolt]

your goal is fdg, she unlocks at 630 tech points, and she can carry you for a long time

[ornate narwhal]

I’m also trying to unlock St. Louis rn but idk if she’s good

[atomic abyss]

Good but not worth

Better to unlock roon for said ironblood tech

[ornate narwhal]

Here’s my iron blood rn

[atomic abyss]

Can't even grind for FdG

[ornate narwhal]

Wait so I wasted all this time…I’m almost halfway done…

[spring bolt]

by current stardard, sanrui is lacking in both dps and ehp tbh...

[ornate narwhal]

I can start unlocking roon if that helps

[atomic abyss]

Because you can farm tirp
But you can't farm hood

And hood is an actually good ship

[ornate narwhal]

What’s tirp?

[atomic abyss]

Tirpitz

Ironblood Battleship

[ornate narwhal]

Ah

[spring bolt]

wut? tirp is farmable?

[atomic abyss]

Wait no I got confused with Bismarck

[spring bolt]

oh...

[ornate narwhal]

Wait so should I switch to roon? Or keep St. Louis

[atomic abyss]

Finish Louis

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

Will be useful for Brest later anyways

And at least you can use your US ships

[sharp socket]

tirp is in medal shop, as is bismarck

[ornate narwhal]

I’m at 60 medals, I’m on little enterprise server, are they coming next reset?

[atomic abyss]

We have no way of knowing

[sharp socket]

good thing is that iron blood has doubled tech points, so you should be done with it in a jiffy

[mint flint]

its random

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[ornate narwhal]

What are tech points?

[atomic abyss]

They are used to unlock your research ships past series 1, amongst other things

[spring bolt]

btw, if you are getting a bb from 80 medal exchange, tirp > bismarck cuz aux gun, you will need a proper bb with cl aux gun for ch 10 and 11 unless you want to stay in ch 9 until you are overleveled

[sharp socket]

[atomic abyss]

Bisko aux gun isn't even bad

[ornate narwhal]

I’m at lvl 115 average

[sharp socket]

ive not heard this before, i just used hood through 12

[soft raft]

Tirp and Biz is purely for the tech points, nothing else

[atomic abyss]

Exactly

This isn't 2018/19

[ornate narwhal]

So after I finish st Louis should I do roon?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Hopefully by then you'll have z23

[ornate narwhal]

The cube part of the construction just unlocked, should I try unlocking roon, bc I don’t have the coins and the retrofit mats to fully unlock her

[atomic abyss]

I mean I guess
But who would you even use to grind her exp with

At least z23 is a decent ship, but you don't have her

None of the rest you have are advisable to raise

[sharp socket]

personally i used cdp for roon and fdg but its not recommended

[ornate narwhal]

Idk but then I could quickly blitz through it when I get some iron blood ships

I mean bc of the timer, and if I just go to unlock her now I can lessen the timer even before trying to unlock her

[atomic abyss]

That's why I said I guess

[ornate narwhal]

Wait could I just use the stuff to make it go faster?

[tame jungle]

you should not.

[ornate narwhal]

Oh ok

Why

[sharp socket]

protocore for good gear

[tame jungle]

you can convert to protocore, which in turn can be used for some of the most useful gear available

[ornate narwhal]

How do I do that?

[tame jungle]

depot > items > combat data pack > analyze/convert

[ornate narwhal]

?

Do this with all of them?

[spring bolt]

yes unless you are too lazy to grind exp

[ornate narwhal]

I can do it

[tame jungle]

just do it

[ornate narwhal]

I have 860 now, is that enough to buy anything?

[tame jungle]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[spring bolt]

btw, level your Königsberg class to lv70 for easy tech points and Leipzig, but they are probably the worst combination to grind roon

[ornate narwhal]

What?

[tame jungle]

level to 70 and mlb*

[spring bolt]

they unlock a new ship when they have 9 stars combined, and they are cheap to mlb as you get tons of dupes for limit break

[ornate narwhal]

So buy the gold BB gun when possible?

[tame jungle]

do what it says on the picture yeah

[ornate narwhal]

It says gold>ur and to get the ones in red

So get the gold BB gun right?

[spring bolt]

yes. you get 20 prints per month and it takes 25 to build one, so it will take a while

[zenith heron]

Pretty much, if you can purchase them...

[brazen gate]

is ryuusei still the best eco converging tb? I’m gear lab poor rn

[spring bolt]

saiun, ju, ryuusei, pr7 vit2 are all side grades

[brazen gate]

ah so vit2 converges too, thanks

[tame jungle]

only vit2 mode change

[zenith heron]

You can but Tenzan is the poverty option, while those mentioned above are similar in terms except for timing

[spring bolt]

you kinda want them all to adjust the take off timing for sync purpose

[sly haven]

do you even get anything for having a good score on the haloween minigame, or is it just the limited gear?

[stark quiver]

its one thing at the very end of the week lol
its bragging rights

[spring bolt]

score doesn't matter, you can enter the mini game and quit immediately and get the same reward

[sly haven]

oh

ive been playing it for half an hour lol

will the tempesta minigame be in the arcade after the event? i would love to be able to get tickets from it

[weary gust]

They haven't added new games to the arcade for quite a while now.

[sly haven]

thats a shame

[summer sable]

Does the EX require a specific character

[spring bolt]

no

[eternal moth]

EX is typically a skill-based stage, where you need to avoid the bullet hell

[dusk maple]

Not this time, it's just a regular boss fight.

[stark quiver]

how many seconds is harbiter fight

[muted ember]

are there any gold augments I should rush beside Sandy's?

[plain saffron]

Hood

[muted ember]

got Hood

[plain saffron]

Who else do you have

[muted ember]

for Gold Augments I got
Javelin
Sara
Hood
Sandy

[atomic abyss]

The really good ones are hood, saratoga, san diego, izumo, taihou, kawakaze, tashkent, ibuki, chapayev

Ofc, only get them if you're using them

Ig Shangri-la too

[muted ember]

I have a lvl 1 Izumo

[spring bolt]

albacore, u96 too
and long island aug brings her dps to a very high level against light

[spice phoenix]

how good is napoli in terms of dps? (i know that probably no one has her at dev 30, but i’m still curious)

[vale spindle]

mediocre at best

[hollow gust]

had her done for weeks, her dps is like CB so mid

[spring bolt]

if you give hind an AA gun, you basically get napoli dps

[slow fox]

[sweet delta]

How bad is Napoli DPS against heavy

[spring bolt]

between san fran off tank and og wichita with aug i guess

ofc, not considering wichita buff

[forest palm]

not so bad for a tank quite honestly

[eternal moth]

How tanky is she, anywhere near Agir?

[forest palm]

she's the fatest in the land

[spring bolt]

tankier than agir in all 3 CN models, ch 15 mob, ch 15 boss and repulse meta
only a little tho

[slow fox]

186 :mutsukinod:

Agir 160

[sweet delta]

According to one EN model, anchorage is 11% tankier than napoli

[slow fox]

what the

[spring bolt]

what's that model based on? enemy hit/luck and attack comp?

[weary gust]

Anchorage can absorb infinite damage while invulnerable but when her skill isn't active she's less tank than the CBs. So it really depends on timing.

[sweet delta]

I have no idea, but that resource also features a tier list that put Bayard in EX+ tier and Vanguard below NJ

[slow fox]

Never listen to eHP if it's on tiers

[spring bolt]

wut... i mean that's not impossible but the model must be very weird... like damage against heavy armor mods are much greater than medium armor...

[sweet delta]

Probably wack armor mods because Felix is second, behind yatsen and ahead of anchorage

[opaque gate]

what meta ship is good to upgrade?

[sweet delta]

What meta ship do you have?

[weary gust]

Nagato Meta is one of the better ones, isn't she?

[opaque gate]

houshou junyou hiyou fusou memphis kasumi hiei

[sweet delta]

Yes but there are many rainbow BBs

[sweet delta]

Well then nobody, maybe hiei depending on what BBs you have

[barren tapir]

long island decent?

[spring bolt]

in term of actually using meta ships in late/end game contents, helena meta in qe meta fights, jintsuu meta in pvp

[barren tapir]

is her aug barrage like cracked or something

[opaque gate]

should sandy be in mobfleet or boss?

[sweet delta]

That's with great reliance on skyraider, and she's good against light only . Yes the barrage is also light focused

And if you have skyraider then you probably also have enterprise, Yorkii, or Hornii

[spring bolt]

yeah i know... it's kinda stupid but that aug gives her 380X10 bombs with 130% light armor mod

[barren tapir]

i see, still pretty cool that a base rare is decent

[weary gust]

There's a fair amount of useful blues (when retrofit)

[barren tapir]

ye but always nice to discover one i didnt know about

[hollow gust]

Damn so no more recommending Ranger over Long Island gor newbies

[sweet delta]

I wouldn't pay for long island augment

[forest palm]

who in their right mind would recommend a new player to waste mats on a ship like LI

[opaque gate]

does extra exp from unawakened lvl 100 count for data collection?

[weary gust]

Yes

[barren tapir]

any other decent blues i should know about

[opaque gate]

thank u

[weary gust]

Isuzu, Juneau, Portland, Shouhou come to mind.

[hollow gust]

Isuzu

[sweet delta]

Tanikaze if you didn't get noshimu

[spring bolt]

nevada kai would out damage a lot of gold bbs
sadly still not decent level, just showcase of how bad some gold bbs are

and Juneau for pvp

[forest palm]

the needle for SSR BBs has barely moved since 2019, hardly surprising

[opaque gate]

should i develop seattle for AA? or saint louis first for USS since i have TONS of her blueprints

[forest palm]

Seattle is not meant for AA

[plain saffron]

1st question, are you doing series 1 research

[opaque gate]

nope, but i did before when it was first released

[slow fox]

Seattle has roughly 50% the AA output of San Diego :mutsukinod:

[opaque gate]

and im currently lvling ip my san diego and helena, so im thinking of developing a USS

[errant fog]

Is there a spreadsheet of the pr7 weapons that's finished?

sorry, I mean like those datamine ones that reviewed the weapons

Found it nvm lol

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[errant fog]

Neat

[forest palm]

I mean...it's really just the Mode Change Vit, and La-9 that are worth anything

[errant fog]

This will do too, tqvm

Wouldnt it be cool if there like, an option in the sorting feature in depot to sort by PR seasons?

[forest palm]

#game-feedback

[opaque gate]

is portland without hpgraded skills ok to use?

[sweet delta]

portland's skills should not be upgraded

[soft raft]

Yes
She's one of the few cases where you shouldn't really be raising her skills

One's completely useless as shit and the other one is certainly there

[quartz breach]

Nagato META barrage fires out directly from where she's positioned right? Ie. it's most ideal when she gets the center position.

^Is Daisen the same?

[sweet delta]

daisen has no flag-requiring barrage

[grizzled wraith]

Do only l2d skins have login in animation? Or does ani skins also have this?

[frank pulsar]

afaik animated skin is just moving 2d pic without any special movements or anyt unlike live 2d

[forest palm]

just call it a gif

[plain saffron]

Newer one have several animation at least, just not directly interactable

[opaque gate]

agir better than azuma?

[lone knoll]

are bb aux guns impactful or just stat sticks?

[sweet delta]

depends on the enemies

they can only shoot enemies that are about to crash into the left side of the screen

[lone knoll]

okay, so if very boat heavy

wich one do you recommend having on FdG

[sweet delta]

triple 155mm kai for chapter 14
triple 155mm for everywhere below 14
twin 137mm for chapter 15
quad 152mm for rich people

[frank pulsar]

most of the time yea

[sweet delta]

it's the same for basically all BBs

[lone knoll]

okay thank you, will save that info

[opaque gate]

is amagi cv overall better than saratoga? if i could only use one of them

[stark quiver]

yes
by a very very large margin

[sweet delta]

no competition unless amagi is missing a star

[opaque gate]

okay thanks

im trying to make a backline that clears w12 really fast while my vanguards are collecting exp and only 1 fleet.

is uni izumo amagj cv better than uni saratoga amagi cv?

[sweet delta]

use ships who are not max level

unicorn is the only exception, and only if your vanguard is too weak to survive without her

[opaque gate]

im trying to gain exp for my sandy, helena and portland

[sweet delta]

and you can gain exp for your main fleet at the same time

[opaque gate]

tey die when it comes to bossfight, so im trying to switch up my backlines

[sweet delta]

use a boss fleet

[opaque gate]

ill justusebizumo uni amagi cv to clear everything

or is saratoga better than izumo fs5?

[stark quiver]

they are 2 differnet hulls

[deep solstice]

ok i've got all 300 blue prints for anchorage from reserarch
who next

[opaque gate]

okok, ill just use helldiver in exchange for my sea hornet since planes are not a problem

[sharp socket]

agir, haku

fdg if you want to skip 15 days of coining

[coarse heron]

FdG saves 108k gold by making sure to use catchup prints

[deep solstice]

i doubt i can even start developing her

[coarse heron]

check

[deep solstice]

i've only played game for like a month or two

[sharp socket]

108k gold is actually just like 4-5 days of oil grinding 12-4

[deep solstice]

152/630 kms points so yeah pretty far off

[sharp socket]

however it is recommended to do fdg catchup anyway because thats what the recommendation says

[forest palm]

less than that....

[coarse heron]

KMS ships give double tech points compared to other factions so it's closer than you'd think
but yeah do FdG catchup

then Agir and Haku
After that it literally doesn't matter

[opaque gate]

is 12-4 the best oil efficient gold farm?

[forest palm]

13-4

[plain saffron]

Technically nope
But 12-4 is easy enough to use shit ships

[opaque gate]

i see, thanks. so my end goal is to comfortably farm 13-4

[forest palm]

There's 14-4, but the average run may make it less time efficient

[stark quiver]

100k is a day of grinding 12-4

[forest palm]

It is

[sharp socket]

it is if you have enough oil

[stark quiver]

you need like 9k, which a lot of people just have sitting there

[sweet delta]

but you don't get 9k oil every day

[left cedar]

generally i spend my time farming 14-4, and with 10k oil farm i got something like 60k-80k coins

[opaque gate]

how do h get 10k oil tf

[left cedar]

3 days without grind, 1 day grinding

[barren tapir]

you get a solid hunk of oil every day, not 9k no but still

[left cedar]

[opaque gate]

at what lvl is ur canteen at?

[left cedar]

max, 12

[barren tapir]

we can estimate basic oil income of active player

[opaque gate]

oh, mine otw to 10, is it worth it?

[sharp socket]

oil has many sources

[left cedar]

2,5~4k/d

that numbers its comms/canteen
not taking in account weekly

[sharp socket]

suchi says its closer to 6k, because of a whole bunch of extra factors from weekly and monthly

[sweet delta]

sucks to be european or asian timezones though

[left cedar]

but i'm South american

[tropic tusk]

European timezone still find as the daily commission ends around 10am

U can still click them on wake up

[barren tapir]

2304/day canteen
80 * 4 1 hour comms
160 * 4 2 hour comms (estimated, since some awakening give only coin, you get 10, half half for duration then 8/10 oil approx)
250 * 2 night comms (can be more or less, 2/4 oils is average, probably)
540/day missions
6900/week pack and missions

total = 5290/day average

this does not count potential urgent comms or comms after your 10 daily resource comms are done.

[sweet delta]

even if you can click nightly commissions in the morning, that's still a loss overnight

[tropic tusk]

Tho American timezone is the best since U click n sleep

[sharp socket]

from suchi

[barren tapir]

so basically you can earn ~60k? coins per day if 100k is 9k oil

oh yeh i forgot maintenance compensations

[sharp socket]

coin/oil ratio in 12-4 is 6.8

[opaque gate]

is this a solid azuma loadout? what can i improve here

[barren tapir]

well per day...you also have daily raid, commission, missions, and retiring ship

[left cedar]

Suchi is a fucking tryhard
dammit, its great to have u here

[stark quiver]

the 2ndary and aa could be better but yea its fine

[sweet delta]

you can improve by

1. getting her to fs5 to change the gun
2. better DD gun
3. better AA gun

[opaque gate]

what should i switch

[sharp socket]

108k coins is 15.8k oil

[left cedar]

mostly or almost everything i do its quickly maths and observation, but suchi get down to numbers and analytics

i'm to lazy to do that

[barren tapir]

also i am dumb and cant math daily mission is 520 not 540 still anyway the avg is like 5-6k or even higher if active

[opaque gate]

i want to use proto 305 for azuma soon if fs5, but it would render her first skill useless since ap cant burn

or can i use HE dd gun to proc it rather

[barren tapir]

if you get nyb/biw gear research or patro escorts, you will get a huge helping of bonus oils

also nyb/biw handovers

[sweet delta]

looks like you have no other option. Twin 90mm is a strict upgrade over Quad bofors, but you only have one

[sweet delta]

just ignore the skill

[stark quiver]

better way to grind coins
dont do math
press 3x battle until no oil

[sweet delta]

without math we'd be farming 2-1 all day

[opaque gate]

ok thanks

[sharp socket]

i just did the data collection cause i was bored

[opaque gate]

im asking so that i can use only 1 fleet for opsi xD

[left cedar]

i totally hate that shit even when oil cap its just a dream

[sweet delta]

when you get bored of 12-4 then give me your data for wiki

[sharp socket]

didnt u already see it

[sweet delta]

but did you stop recording?

[coarse heron]

btw that DD gun should only be used on subs to improve their fleet power for hunting, it shouldn't be used otherwise

[opaque gate]

are planes problem inOpSi?

[barren tapir]

yes well, instead of 2-1 we now have c1 for the mindless eternal grind for minimal reward

[opaque gate]

i see, so ill just use my normal ammo gun

[sweet delta]

they have literally no other choice

[barren tapir]

either easily killed or nigh unkillable, not really a concern either way

[sharp socket]

yes

[coarse heron]

I mean... surely the Twin 100 is a better choice?

[opaque gate]

oki, i guess hekkdiver>sea hornet in opsi too

[sharp socket]

if you want the whole sheet ill send it to you later today
alr then

[stark quiver]

figher and dive bomber

[spring bolt]

one fleet clearing everything including harbiter is one of the fleet building method now
but you will need to be very end game with almost full fleet tech and near perfect cats, and technically it's not strictly one fleet as you still need full cross fleet support and subs

[opaque gate]

yee, im still lvl 87 and still not on OpSi endgame

[sharp socket]

1 fleet harby shouldnt be that bad actually, just rng helena in bb fleet

sure youll need good ships but the gear is mostly very accessible

[spring bolt]

that one fleet means only one fleet is used for everything including mobs and bosses in all opsi maps, not just harbiter

[sharp socket]

well thats just a pain

[stark quiver]

i could one fleet only with subs but that took 11 bb rld and no other tech, but needed almost max ships and gear

[barren tapir]

thats basically what i did (minus harby ofc) i just chucked all my best ships in 1 fleet and went

[sweet delta]

weighted into wiki

[barren tapir]

my other ships arent nearly high enough lvl yet to do anything to strongholds etc

[opaque gate]

is every the best cat?

[sweet delta]

Every and Drake are the best "free" cats

[spring bolt]

no but not very far away from perfect cats

[opaque gate]

who should i prioritize? every kidd or drake for my opsi fleet
Amagi cv uni izumo
azuma ibuki noshiro

[zenith heron]

Cats is just put whatever it fits, unless its a mob fleet at OpSi....

[spring bolt]

at this stage, just use drake and every and you are fine

[reef kite]

hello, will the owari skin be purchaseable during the black friday sale?

[barren tapir]

oh ye i wanna ask is this a decent base for a cat (oscar)

[opaque gate]

zamn i needall of these, is there a way to get quick special tokens?

[stark quiver]

eh

[sweet delta]

wouldnt reroll it

[zenith heron]

actually nice RNG

[spring bolt]

yeah, would't waste coin on it

[sweet delta]

stronghold (the 200 AP thing)

[barren tapir]

im nowhere near that stage lol but is it worth levelling

[reef kite]

hello, will the owari skin be purchaseable during the black friday sale?

[opaque gate]

what is the priority to buy in these kind of shops? is t3 ordinance priority?

[spring bolt]

leveling is fine, you can feed it to better ones later

[zenith heron]

I doubt it, usually rerun skins are gonna be available within the event, but it depends...

[barren tapir]

strongholds give a bunch i think

[opaque gate]

what is strongholdz does it give like permanent buff?

[spring bolt]

it gives a lot of tokens and other rewards

[barren tapir]

red tornado thingy on the map

like this

[hollow gust]

Black Friday reruns most event limited skins , however this skin is a bit too late , they usually only rerun skins before September or August

[opaque gate]

sorry and thank u guys for indulging my questions lol

[spring bolt]

btw, it's generated on the first day of every week and month, gone if you didn't clear it after the last day of the month (unless you stay in opsi and never leave)

[opaque gate]

ok, so ill try to get them

[sweet delta]

if your ships die you can go back to blue port to heal (and kill some random easy enemy in another zone) and come back

[barren tapir]

you can leave and return as many times as you want or need to (unlike abyssals) so yolo them even if your ships arent strong

[coarse heron]

Strongholds are the "easy" endgame content in OpSi

you can bruteforce them by killing one node, leaving to repair, and coming back

[zenith heron]

do take note that if your fleet looses, "tolls of war" debuff gives in and literally removes you the ability to use any skills and reduces every stat by 60% within that fleet with the exception that your fleet won't die... can be removed by "Regroup and Rest" which is at least used once every 8 hours...

[barren tapir]

it is removed by repairing in port too

[opaque gate]

any easy way to get special tokens?

[keen mural]

So I did most of OPsi in the last 2 days, only a few a abyssal and all the strongholds left, as I was reading above should I focus on getting strongholds done before abyssal?

[cobalt rapids]

strongholds, buy em with coins in ports

[cobalt rapids]

no because u can do 2 abysalls for the cost of 1 stronghold

and idr how many gold plates 1 abysall vs 1 stronghold gives but abysalls have a higher chance for UR plans aswell

[keen mural]

Given I have to regroup and rest at least once in abyssal

So it's still abyssal, got it thanks

And about gear crafting, for planes my priority should be fighters?
Since purple Helldiver performs well

[cobalt rapids]

for electric components ull want 2-3 wyverns = 2 junkers > 2 ryuusei in depot if you didnt already get em > 1-3 flaps > 1-2 457 in depot ( 1 can be from protocores )
UR selectors should first be spent on 2-3 wyverns > 1-2 mk 7 > 1-2 100kais
UR test reports is 1-2 457 in depot > w.e
gold test reports is 1-3 flaps >= ~2 155kai > 1-2 457 in depot > rest
the other u can check pic from /gearlab top bottom prio coz mats are more abundant/not high prios and/or non conflicting

[cobalt rapids]

give me 5 min to check stronghold rewards and ill let u know

[keen mural]

It's my first month in the game so I don't have any crafted gear beside a magnetic torp I crafted yesterday

[daring basalt]

good for a lvl 82?

[cobalt rapids]

not good at 3 stars

[daring basalt]

got her at 5

[cobalt rapids]

works, u may or may not have better options

[daring basalt]

i had alot saved

[cobalt rapids]

she still needs lv120 min to be used in hard content

and any ships works in easy content which means grinding w12 or events

[daring basalt]

the guns are the problem im having

idk what to equip for her

and i lack heavy cruiser guns

[bright agate]

Has anyone completed map 15-3 could you show me your fleet and share any tricks for getting through that map?

[cobalt rapids]

strongholds over c4, but c5 and c6 abysalls over strongholds

[sweet delta]

it took more than 5 min

[sweet delta]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[slow fox]

/w2

[spring bolt]

brest uses cb guns, not ca guns, which means mk8/agir gun/kron gun for med and heavy, 3x310 for light

[slow fox]

Why is there no w2 guide

[little tree]

~~skill issue ~~

[sweet delta]

what's dps of Azuma gun vs Unzen gun on Brest against light?

[keen mural]

Alright thanks, and thanks for the crafting path as well.

[daring basalt]

can you show me what the guns look like?

[spring bolt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Large_Cruiser_Guns#Max_Enhanced-0

[cobalt rapids]

azuma gun was lower for brest and kron right ? aegir aswell ?

[sweet delta]

first > second >= fourth are AP
fifth is HE for light armor

[daring basalt]

where can i get any of these?

are they available in the shop?

[sweet delta]

event, event, pr4 research/protocore, pr2 protocore/gear lab

[cobalt rapids]

from left to right
event limited, event limited, pr5, pr4 ( protocoreable ), pr2(protocoreable/gearlabable)

[daring basalt]

what would be the best for the main gun?

[cobalt rapids]

best depends on content but the rainbow would be best for medium and heavy and the last one would be best for light
assuming theres no extra requirements ( like aegirs tankiness skill req )

[daring basalt]

i still yet to understand AP

[cobalt rapids]

ammo type properties matter little
what matters is the modifiers, its just that guns from the same category usually share same mods per ammo type

[zenith heron]

"Armor Piercing"

[spring bolt]

well technically azuma gun has lower dps than many ca he guns
not sure if the barrage can offset the gun damage difference, unzen gun might be better but brest has no skill to ignore shield so idk, might need some testings

[frank pulsar]

you just need to know ap ammo tends to be skewed towards med and heavy, and he ammo is skewed to light while being okay/bad at med and heavy

[daring basalt]

would be the fourth one be good for the main gun?

[frank pulsar]

its generally your best option if you dont own any of the limited cb guns

[daring basalt]

btw what would be the best pr2 ship

[frank pulsar]

this is mostly true for bb guns, i forgot vanguard guns have weird modifiers

[thorn tartan]

how long is this event? and how many points are you guys going for.....

[keen mural]

Sorry just one more thing about this, the torps on the path to wyvern are good to use or should I craft them only when I have the resources to get to wyvern?

[sharp socket]

ammo type becomes more relevant for larger guns

mainly for bb and cb/ca

[grizzled sundial]

At least grabbing the other tempesta ship in milestone reward if you don't have her .

[opaque gate]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[sharp socket]

for small guns just see the damage modifiers

[opaque gate]

what is the command for prototype core zhop priority?

core-data**

[cobalt rapids]

would only craft when u can craft wyverns

[sweet delta]

/coredata and you can use /tags in #bot-spam to see a list of commands

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[opaque gate]

thanks

[keen mural]

Ok so I get the junkers first, thanks

[opaque gate]

ibuki is so strong tf, why isnt she meta?

[sharp socket]

does she beat URs

or other options that do the thing shes good at, which is torping

[steel grotto]

is it better to use the ur exchange on a dupe?

i dont own shima and ulrich so i assume i get a shinano dupe?

she's not mlb so is new jersey

[cobalt rapids]

get nano dups till shes mlb

[steel grotto]

im actually in so much pain how on earth am i only getting the event shop ships from all of my rolls

[lucid eagle]

I just finished Saint Louis, who should I prio next?

[steel grotto]

depends on if you can afford to research other ships

[lucid eagle]

do I use coins on her or is that a waste?

and will she be better than my portland or not until MLB?

[steel grotto]

usually prio is friedrich > anchorage > some others

[lucid eagle]

sweet good to know

[steel grotto]

anchorage should be who you should look to replace portland with

[lucid eagle]

ah I see

[steel grotto]

tho if you have no where else to dump your coins on i dont see why not tho there will be better ships

[grizzled sundial]

Question , can i withhold weekly reward so i can add more specialized core a few days later as new month arrive ? *Rip 125 core *

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[lucid eagle]

yeah but I think I should save my coins for to love ru as I only have 100k atm

[atomic abyss]

We don't even know when the Collab will be

[lucid eagle]

would it not still be a good idea to keep a bunch of coins saved up?

[steel grotto]

technically youre losing out on potential coins from the merchant

you can work out the math of how much youre not gettign per day

[atomic abyss]

It is a good idea to save up when you know the event is coming next week

[lucid eagle]

do they usually give a weeks notice or something?

[opaque gate]

what aux gear should i prioritize +13?

[atomic abyss]

But in those cases, we save by grinding w12/13 for coins

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[atomic abyss]

About 5 days at least

[lucid eagle]

ah im currently gated at W10

[atomic abyss]

Yeah so your prio shouldn't be saving coins just yet

It's pushing to content where you can farm them

[lucid eagle]

I see

I can't beat 10-1 so I started farming 9-4

[steel grotto]

with that amount of coins youre probably not spending as many coins as you should for other stuff

[opaque gate]

damn so white bullet>black, i +11 my black alr rip

[lucid eagle]

what should I spend on?

[steel grotto]

stuff like ship blueprints from research lab

at least thats where a lot of my coins are going

also leveling gear and such

[undone siren]

None of these event ships have good tech right?

[atomic abyss]

They only account for frigate tech lol

[undone siren]

Thought so... RIP

[fringe hedge]

Can anyone tell me what should I do with this ?

[steel grotto]

with what

[fringe hedge]

Tech boxes

[atomic abyss]

Open them

[steel grotto]

if you dont have much gear yet you could gamble on gold gear

[atomic abyss]

Open all boxes purple, gold and black

Anything not the above, craft them to purple

[steel grotto]

worse case you get a bunch of toolboxes which is neat i guess

even worse case you get to disassemble trash and get a small amount of money i guess

[fringe hedge]

I got 50% of the boxes gold gear

[sharp socket]

more steam catapults

8-10 is good, 14 if you aim for w15

[steel grotto]

a pair of gold steam catapults for every carrier

[fringe hedge]

What planes should I use for shinano

[steel grotto]

depends on where youre at rn

[fringe hedge]

She is lvl 104 almost max limit brake

[steel grotto]

if you have all the gear in the world flapjack tenrai and wyvern is probably a good standard loadout

but really it depends on what gear you have right now and what you can get right now

[pearl olive]

Which one of this is worth upgrading?

[fringe hedge]

Ye I got only gold planes rn

[wise elk]

Is she good or bad

[sharp socket]

hellcat helldiver barracuda for general use (campaign)

[steel grotto]

if you can assemble a wolfpack its probably u 37 no?

idk about the rest of the ships

tallin is probably not bad if youre lacking tanks