gameplay-help

[stark quiver]

But do grind opsi if you can

[loud scarab]

is amagi cv on the Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List website? i cant see her

[bronze prawn]

Is there a gear tierlist

[soft raft]

ECTL hasn't updated since August since the evals are busy with other stuff, but here's their prelims

[soft raft]

/equip has a gear guide that covers a majority of what's considered good gear

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[loud scarab]

uhm i rather wanted to see some equip recommendations

[stark quiver]

Depends on boss

^

[soft raft]

Very context dependent

[bronze prawn]

Ty

[soft raft]

Esp when UR CVs have a flexible slot so their plane setup can vary to varying degrees

[loud scarab]

i give up, equip in this game is absolutely shit to parse

[novel solstice]

For the aux slots: 99% of the time two steam catapults is great.
For the fighter/dive bomber/torp bomber slots: it depends on whether you are doing mob or boss, if mob whether it's one of the plane-hell maps, and if boss what the armor type is. Amagi should generally be fine with the same aircraft that are good on other carriers.

[loud scarab]

the game doesnt even tell the boss armor type for most bosses

[soft raft]

You can mostly generalize armor type off of their hulltype

Or if the boss is a chibi shipgirl, they often share the same armor type as their playable counterparts

[forest palm]

in ops, and I think guild it's very easy to find that....

not that the game doesn't tell you, it's that you have fleet lock on

[loud scarab]

i didnt say in ops, so im not gonna defend something i didnt say. i said most of the time

[forest palm]

you made a generalized statement, corrections are needed

[loud scarab]

my statement is correct

[forest palm]

no is not

[loud scarab]

how so

[forest palm]

because it's misleading, and lacks clarity

[loud scarab]

what is misleading about most bosses, lacking clarity isnt incorrect

[forest palm]

because it's not most bosses

[loud scarab]

does the game tell you the armor type of a chapter boss?

there are 60 normal chapter bosses. the game doesnt tell you the armor of most bosses

[undone plover]

it is the same as the ship armor
U can check wiki
For example if the boss is taihou it will be heavy armor

[forest palm]

then you're statement should be directed at campaign bosses, not a generalization

[loud scarab]

i'm not gonna defend the strawman statement you constructed in your brain

[forest palm]

classic

[stark quiver]

So I had a steel with like near perfect end roll, I was just missing, flame, so I rerolled to get better rng, and now I got stuck with shit ass skills, is that normal

[loud scarab]

where does the game indicates which armor is a ship?

[hot flare]

just got back into the game after 2 years and theres only 6 days left till opsi resets

[forest palm]

this is why you get a good Steel, and Edle, and then on the side you have a 2nd Steel, and Edle you work on to perfect

[hot flare]

is completing everything doable or am i cooked

[novel solstice]

If it's almost perfect, a reroll is way more likely to make it worse than to make it better. But on the plus side, coins are easy to get when you're far enough into the game, so do a few more 12-1 runs and reroll again...

[stark quiver]

well that was the said good steel
yea ill prolly have to keep gambling, rerolling it was a bad idea

[novel solstice]

It resets monthly; if you don't have time in the next five days to finish everything you'll have plenty of time next month.

That said, five days may be enough if you play a lot on weekends. Buy all the ap boxes in the shop and get going...

[forest palm]

Ops stays frozen if you've not completed Ch 4

which is something you should remedy before end of month if you haven't

[hot flare]

oh no im already out until ch 12-4, just asking if i can empty out everythign in shop + special zones before reset

might be a waste of tickets if i purchase everything in the exchange

[jaunty glade]

any way to increase cat lodge capacity?

[stark quiver]

i could probably get th same rolls right? with enough gambling

[jaunty glade]

really? perfect

[stark quiver]

i wouldnt

[forest palm]

been working on my Second Edleweise for like 6 months at this point it can go well, or just plain shit

[stark quiver]

yea my steel started with like rld, trp and alpha, so i just gotta roll for fuckin flame

[jaunty glade]

why not?

[stark quiver]

cuz its pointless, you have 60 slots, and definitely not 60 good cats

[jaunty glade]

i have 40, how do you have 60?

[stark quiver]

huh, you dont start with 60?

then it appears that i may have made some poor financial decisions

[jaunty glade]

hahahahahahaha

[stark quiver]

my point still stands tho
you dont need so much cat slots

[hollow wolf]

Anyone know if the there's a drop rate chance that Amity or Mary Celeste would be found on T6 event?

[forest palm]

I've gotten Amity from T6, not sure about Mary

[stark quiver]

Pretty sure Mary doesn’t drop

[ornate narwhal]

Does cost stay the same if a ship dies?

[stark quiver]

Yes

Well no if you’re going into one with a ship already dead

[ornate narwhal]

So like if they die on the first battle will I still have them under cost for the rest of them?

[loud scarab]

mary celeste access is still listed as only in her event

[atomic abyss]

cost decreases

[hollow wolf]

@forest palm which ships you use for for clearing T6. Like a low oil cost team

[vale spindle]

No but if it's an oil capped stage then the cost per battle is likely lower than all fleets with 4+ ships in them

therefore you still pay the oil capped cost same as usual

[atomic abyss]

only amity is on T6 as far as im aware
the drop rate is unknown

[forest palm]

I just use 6 random ships

[ornate narwhal]

It’s hard battle 4-4 so not oil capped

[stark quiver]

There’s oil cap so I use 6 ships that need levels

[forest palm]

though I'm very tempted to just use Uni + DDG

[vale spindle]

Then yes cost decreases as ships die

[eternal basalt]

ALL old Pirates ships show that

[ornate narwhal]

So could I use 2 lvl 1 front line and 1 lvl 1 in the back line? And not fail the stage if liek all 3 of the lvl ones die?

[atomic abyss]

[vale spindle]

yes just make sure the lvl 1 isn't flagship

[ornate narwhal]

If it’s the flagship and they die do I just lose?

[sweet delta]

Yes but it's a waste of oil to bring low level ships who will die

[vale spindle]

yes but if you have other main fleet alive you can retry with dead ships still dead

[forest palm]

This does exist

[ornate narwhal]

But it’s more oil efficient in hard mode since u need a full team

[sweet delta]

But you don't need a full team

[ornate narwhal]

It isn’t allowing me to do it with only 3 units

[sweet delta]

Chapter 4 is low, just use the second fleet for stat requirements and don't battle with it

@ornate narwhal

[vale spindle]

/reqhelp look at the section on the top right

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Hard_Mode_Req_Help.jpeg

[stark quiver]

She’s in shop right now

[forest palm]

ya that function isn't 100% accurate

[sweet delta]

Those get updated whenever the devs remember. They're not automatic

[forest palm]

helpful sure, but it has flaws

[eternal basalt]

coughch14 drops

[keen sable]

You're weren't supposed to use them

[earnest crag]

How do you get these books?

[sweet delta]

Everywhere, just playing the game

I would recommend against using houshou meta though, she's very bad

50 to 60% depends on boss speed, vanguard speed, torpedo spread reduction, and stuff

[earnest crag]

How is she bad though?

[sweet delta]

Only 6 planes, worse than average purple stats, bad stats, terrible stats, bad damage, bad skills

And 3.8k HP and under 300 AA means she explodes quite easily to suicide boats or chapter 12+

[spring bolt]

og houshou is more useful for the exp boost skill while farming ijn exp, but that's not what new players should care

[earnest crag]

Damn thats really bad stats, I guess I have switch her out with someone else when I reach to chapter 9

[sly haven]

About the fleet chat, is it random when I get a convo with a shipgirl? Bc as soon as I got fancy, I got her convo, but apart from three faction group chats, fancy is my only one on one chat so far

[cobalt rapids]

for tempesta u need to own the ships

the group chats idk

[boreal wagon]

you get chats/topics when unlocking the tempesta ships, making their affinity 100 and 150 respectively
group chats unlock at certain times

[sly haven]

Yeah, but I own other ships as well, and also built Mary celeste the same time I built fancy, but fancy is the only one I got a chat with

[boreal wagon]

only the new tempesta ships have their own chats currently

[sly haven]

Fancy is at affinity 50 tho

[tepid crater]

I know she’s a purple cvl but really 3.8k HP? Good lord

[sly haven]

Oh ok

[boreal wagon]

yes unlocking is 1 topic, 100 affinity is another topic and 150 is another still

each of the tempesta's have 3 topics you can unlock w/ them

[sly haven]

Ok

Is it stated when they're gonna make one for the rest of the shipgirls?

[sweet delta]

150 aff is p2w

[boreal wagon]

they don't usually state their plans, so no

[sly haven]

Ok

[vocal sigil]

who should i replace for mogador here? sanfran?

[forest palm]

You certainly could

[sweet delta]

Is your mogadore MLB and 115+

[elfin hollow]

So I’m getting into the meowcifers I just got Oscar Steel and Pound are they any good?

[novel solstice]

Steel is good for your sub fleet, if you use subs. Oscar is good for battleship oriented fleets. Whether these individual cats are good depends on what skills they rolled.

[elfin hollow]

I’m also just not really sure how the work? Is there a good tutorial anywhere on YouTube or something?

[harsh cargo]

All the Tempesta ships equip the same 2 items and there's only one Super Rare in the shop... will we get more?

[spring bolt]

cat quality is mainly decided by the talents, and it's a massive coin sink to get good cats
this event provides cats with no random talents and very decent when reached full level, drake and every

[barren tapir]

you farm t5/t6 for them i guess

[novel solstice]

Run the cats command in bot-spam for a basic guide.

[harsh cargo]

Using the Logistics Plan help?

[barren tapir]

it just saves time as far as i know

[novel solstice]

If you have a lot of time, save the logistics plans for later and just do more basic runs.

The logistics plan is identical to just running the map twice. So it's useful if it's the last day of an event and you're going to run out of time before doing all the farming you want, or if you need to burn a lot of oil fast. But if you have time, just do more runs.

[weary gust]

Youtube is the absolute worst place for AL advice, period. Even if you did manage to find a video not outdated by years, it would probably still be wrong.

[barren tapir]

fair warning tho the gold bps on t5/t6 are rather frustratingly rare

[sweet delta]

The only youtuber I watch is Suchiguma but they dont have a lot of guides

[spring bolt]

the one in core data is better, don't waste time on map drop ones

[sweet delta]

But is paying core data better?

[harsh cargo]

Wait which one?

[barren tapir]

well you'd still need the demi cannon if you want to use a main fleet tempesta

[harsh cargo]

Also that Tempesta ship in core data, is that the only way to get it?

[barren tapir]

12 pounder long gun is better than old heavy cannon

[harsh cargo]

How much is it? In cores. 800?

[barren tapir]

but the question is can you afford to waste spend a bunch of core data gearing up novelty waifu ships

[spring bolt]

by the time you would want to use a tempesta ship, yes paying core data is better than wasting oil in t6
new players should just forget about this event ships

[harsh cargo]

Sure can. I'm up to 10/10 white/black thingies for the BBs and more

[deep solstice]

Is prinz Heinrich good to level? I want to have a iron blood vanguard so I can get exp for shipyard

[barren tapir]

yeh then go for it ig

also doesnt part 2 of the secret shipyard give 2 12 pounders

[sweet delta]

Depends on the alternatives, because Heinrich is just a little better than Portland and requires a KMS ship

[harsh cargo]

We're getting part 2 hopefully. I did see that on the site for the first event run 👀

[deep solstice]

I don’t really have that many iron blood ships

[spring bolt]

if it's for farming ib exp, she does the job well

[jolly holly]

you could do konigsberg, karlsruhe and koln, you get gems from their collection

[harsh cargo]

Which one

[cobalt rapids]

me too

[polar venture]

Are the cat officers in the event worth using?

I don't understand cats in the game so I haven't done anything with it

[cobalt rapids]

every is good

[polar venture]

Sounds like cap

[sweet delta]

Not every cat is good, but Every is good

[polar venture]

:thinkinohhh!!

[cobalt rapids]

then dont believe me

[sweet delta]

Every and Drake are good, and it's hard for your own cat box results to beat them

[harsh cargo]

Plus unique designs

[gloomy lynx]

Hey guys, I started playing azur lane about... 3 hours ago and it's fun! but I was wondering: Is it gonna keep happening that I get random cutscenes filled with characters I have never even seen before? I kinda dislike it but then I'll atleast know and can be prepared xD

[cobalt rapids]

yes that will keep happening

[polar venture]

Sry I was confused. Imma use her and drake. Is kid any good?

[sweet delta]

In main campaign it only happens up to chapter 3

[gloomy lynx]

oof alright, good to know then, thanks

[cobalt rapids]

on the upside(?) outside of events there arent many cutscenes and theyll end fast

[gloomy lynx]

ah for me it mainly happens just clicking through menu's, or accidentally on an event or something haha. It just feels weird to have all these girls already know the commander quite well despite me never having seen them, but ill get used to it then

[gloomy lynx]

ahh okay

[paper mural]

What gear should I give Nagato META?

[stark quiver]

depends on what ur using her for

[paper mural]

OpSi, 12-4 and grinding T6 in the event

Basically, I'm just leveling her

[stark quiver]

457/ 155 /staag/white shell/fcr

[cobalt rapids]

mk7 plygun staag white shell table

[stark quiver]

huh mk7?

[paper mural]

If I don't have a 457 to spare, what other gun can I give her?

[atomic abyss]

410 kai

or just an mk6

[paper mural]

Alright, thank you

[cobalt rapids]

whats wrong with it

[harsh cargo]

So the only way to get the old demi cannons farming T5?

[atomic abyss]

kinda weird they didnt put it in the core shop or event shop but yeah

[white maple]

quick question: im farming on 6-4 for yuudachi rn (kms), but does 2x oil consumption double the odds of getting her on the boss node?

[wind hazel]

no

[whole crypt]

it'll roll the drop twice, not directly double the chance

[stark quiver]

Nothing, js wondering why

[tame jungle]

the odds do not double, however i'm pretty sure it rolls the same drop twice

[white maple]

o

interesting there's multiple answers ToT

[wind hazel]

we said the same thing

[white maple]

ye cause im wonderiing whether it rolls 2 diff drops or if it just idk ajkfsdljlafsjl

[tame jungle]

yeah but mori your answer was BAD!

[wind hazel]

u bad

[cobalt rapids]

enemies in w12 are light and med

[whole crypt]

it doesn't roll the same drop twice though
it rolls the same drop table twice

[stark quiver]

Ah I see

[white maple]

okok soo basically if i get a yuudachi it'll be 2 of them?

[whole crypt]

no

[wind hazel]

no

[tame jungle]

no

[whole crypt]

you basically make 2 rolls for it separately like you ran the stage twice

[white maple]

Ahhh icic, wait doesnt that mean my chances have doubles tho technically

[whole crypt]

not exactly

[tame jungle]

not for the oil spent

[white maple]

yeye

[whole crypt]

maffs is hard

[tame jungle]

although i guess with 2 runs it's pretty close to double...

[white maple]

kk preciate it yall ToT back to the grind 😮‍💨

[wind hazel]

in the end my short "no" was perfect

[spice phoenix]

should i pick up napoli before going back for hindenburg?

[wind hazel]

well, are you researching pr6 or 7 now?

[spice phoenix]

7

[whole crypt]

basically any of the usual BB gun picks is fine outside of OS bossing and ch14+
even ch13 was cleared before champagne gun existed and I'm pretty sure most people back then did it before they finished 457

[wind hazel]

then do napoli

[polar venture]

What are MOT ships?

[whole crypt]

tempesta

[wind hazel]

Tempesta

so why is the prefix MOT

[tame jungle]

mommies of tempesta

[cobalt rapids]

Maidens of tempesta

[wind hazel]

[tame jungle]

close enough?

[polar venture]

Does that cannon weapon make them worth? Example are they on the same level as kitakaze for example

[wind hazel]

they are all glorified collection ships

[whole crypt]

they're pretty meh for anything considered difficult, mostly waifu

[polar venture]

So something to be visually appreciated but not actually be used? Do I understand that correctly 👀👀

[whole crypt]

basically

you can use them if you want to, most of the game isn't hard enough so whether they work will depend on what you're doing

[sweet delta]

Fancy is way better than kitakaze at anything but heavy, but worth it a different matter

[little tree]

Will this work fine till I get better rarity torp

[unique lantern]

bruh i forgot how obnoxious mobile games are with their forced tutorial clicks, not letting you access settings or any form of login until you finished it...
how do i skip them i already have an accout just let me login

[tame jungle]

just play

[unique lantern]

i barely have time to manual and now i have to waste half an hour for this shit 🥲

[tame jungle]

ok

[ornate narwhal]

How come I can’t activate this?

[stark quiver]

You should try clicking on the box with a + next to the cv bps

[cobalt rapids]

put a uni dupe or porple bulin on the + sign

[fair mountain]

If this is someones first Tempesta event, are they really supposed to farm T5 for 2 complete guns and T6 for 5+ guns, just so they can use the ships from the event?

[ornate narwhal]

Ohhhh

[stark quiver]

Farm for whatever you need

[ornate narwhal]

Should I do Helena, Laffey or Portland retrofit next?

[tame jungle]

portland

[polar venture]

Dumb question incoming, how I know if enemy is heavy?

[storm heron]

enemy has their own armor type, there's a wiki too

[unique lantern]

how the hell do i get into a login screen 😔
if i bind the new forced account to my existing yostar id assume it would allow me to chose, but im still scared about not thiought through stuff like this, cant they just add a login menu 😭

[stark quiver]

How are you forced? Just log out in game

[unique lantern]

if you log out and click the main screen to login it forces you back into the phone bound account

[stark quiver]

Uninstall I guess

[unique lantern]

no, then it forces the tutorial and bound account again

[storm heron]

what is this login problem?

[tame jungle]

don't you have the login options on the left

[inner delta]

huh, i dont think it force you back?

[storm heron]

there are 2 clicks needed after the music starts

[storm heron]

first click is this. another one is server choosing

[unique lantern]

😔 bro i only have twitter facebook and yostar, i thought those were social media links

[tame jungle]

click this and it should take you to the login stuff

[unique lantern]

overthinking issue i guess

[barren tapir]

so how good is fancy actually

or well not good but like did she end up being okay at least

[tidal escarp]

which frigate gun is better? im farming t5 mainly but unsure

[sweet delta]

T5 gun can only be used in slot 1 of ganji and martinho

[tidal escarp]

ive seen it in royal fortune on tier list

[boreal wagon]

thats a different gun

[barren tapir]

there's 3 guns atm

demi cannon = bb gun
12 pounder = dd gun with dd style stats (fast reload, lower dmg, higher dps)
old heavy = dd gun with cl style stats (slower reload, higher dmg, less dps)

farm for whatever you need i guess

t5 is more point efficient and drops bb gun, t6 can drop amity and drops dd gun

[haughty current]

is there a tierlist that get updated frequently? I feel like all i find are outdated

[storm heron]

maybe one day when tierlisting is a full time job

[keen sable]

15 is afaik. Is pretty easy though. Almost everyone is trash.

[vocal sigil]

yes mlb and 120 sorry for long reply time

[storm heron]

yes mog good

[sweet delta]

Mogador replaces Shimakaze and Shimakaze replaces Heinrich, then move SanFran to the front of that fleet

[vocal sigil]

thanks!!

[gaunt gull]

I wanted to log into my PC version of Azur lane but I can't log into my mobile account for some reason

It just directed me into making a new account

[bronze prawn]

Where do u get prototype core?

[undone plover]

were the tempesta augs craftable after event ends?

[boreal wagon]

p sure they were

[desert tapir]

So from what I can see most of the Tempesta girls are going to want Old Heavy Guns because the demi cannot be equipped for many, and the 12 pounder iz not a map drop. Is this correct?

[eternal basalt]

You want 1 demi per main fleet ship you have

[vale spindle]

check pins

[crisp raven]

assuming you logged in using the correct bound method, tap on the "change" button in the center as seen here and switch to the correct server. if youre not sure which server, youll have to check each one. no tutorial will play. you can also tap on the "results found" button on your phone to see the server, then switch to it on emulator.

[eternal basalt]

It's the collabs where augs are drops, and thus one-shot

[half plover]

I think there is a mistake in this pin, it says wydah is not rate up in banner1, but ingame it says so

[desert tapir]

Thanks

[forest palm]

it's not just Wydah, all wave 1 tempesta have a rate up, it's 0.5%, but it's there

Wydah is 2.5%

[eternal basalt]

Wydah is rated up in banner 1

[forest palm]

wave 1 all are

[eternal basalt]

No, .5 isn't

[forest palm]

as I said, Hind, Mary, and Martin all have a 0.5% rate up

[half plover]

u sure? port and wydah have the same rate

[forest palm]

I'm looking at it right now

[boreal wagon]

0.5% is not considered rate up

[forest palm]

then there would be no reason to list them

[half plover]

it is listed in NOT RATE UP which is correct

[eternal basalt]

They are still in the pool

[boreal wagon]

they list amity as well so is your argument to also not include the map drop ship in the future?

[half plover]

but wydah should be rate up

[forest palm]

ya there's a green up next to her name

[boreal topaz]

should i +10 my barracuda torp bombers since thats' the best i have? i have one breguet and one ichi b7a

[undone plover]

yep that should be okay

dont go overboard though
+10 the ones u are using and need

I assume u mean gold cuda?

[boreal topaz]

yes gold cuda !

[sweet delta]

Barracuda is not your best because you have Breguet

[undone plover]

b7a fills another niche and is not the same as cuda since it is a converging TB mostly used in heavy armor bossing and usually requires a setup CV (a CV that can stop/slow like AvP)
but breg is worth +10 over cuda

[boreal topaz]

i only have one breguet

[sweet delta]

They're all +10able, ryuusei can go to +13

[boreal topaz]

thank u guys ❤️

[soft raft]

ECTL is the most up to date one
they've just been too busy to actually update the list, but here's their prelims for everything from August to before this event

[hollow gust]

indiana t1, they did her dirty

[undone plover]

afaik they prelim tier stuff conservatively so it can change

[atomic abyss]

i mean wichitaM TN says it all

that is unbelievably stupid

like

how is she worse than OG wichita or chicago

[cobalt rapids]

shes worse than wichita because she dies faster and deals more dmg
portland is better than eugen because she dies faster and deals more dmg

[atomic abyss]

i meaaaaaaaaaan

surely the 3rd best VG DPS amounts to sth

[ancient ridge]

Oh prinz tier 5 rip

[atomic abyss]

i mean she IS bad

[ancient ridge]

But she’s hot

[atomic abyss]

i dont think she's that bad personally

[ancient ridge]

I’m using her for my ib fleet

[atomic abyss]

best IB tank is Agir anyways

then again IB has really no shortage of tanks

[sweet delta]

Agir Felix Carl eugen Mainz hein and some more portlandish ones

[atomic abyss]

adalbert

[ornate narwhal]

Do u think I can clear t6?

[ancient ridge]

I want agir but my luck isn’t so nice

[atomic abyss]

looks doable

you'll want to farm t5 anyways

so maybe farm t5 for a bit and then with higher levels push t6

[ornate narwhal]

Wait I was asking if I can clear t6 not t5

[atomic abyss]

so maybe farm t5 for a bit and then with higher levels push t6

[ancient ridge]

😭

[ornate narwhal]

Ohhhhh

[atomic abyss]

t6 doable with those levels if gear is decent
and a 2nd fleet

without i'd rather you dig heels and grind so you can out level the map

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

Should I use the gold cats?

[versed sentinel]

what should i use my special general blueprints for? prototype core or for the DR ship im grinding?

[ornate narwhal]

This is what I got rn

[atomic abyss]

use kidd yeah

[atomic abyss]

which series

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[versed sentinel]

i have series 3,4,5 and 7

[atomic abyss]

3 can be scrapped for protocore

4, 5, 7 you may want to use it for those DRs

[empty summit]

are retrofit mats obtainable only through hard stages?

[atomic abyss]

that is the only way you can farm them certainly

there are also the one time 3* rewards for said maps

other sources are rng like guild shop or not worth like medal shop

[empty summit]

[bronze prawn]

How do you "analyze prototype blueprints"

[atomic abyss]

isnt there a button that shows you what blueprint you can analyse right next to that icon

[bronze prawn]

There's nothing, is it like that for everyone or do I need to get the blueprints? Where do I get them?

[atomic abyss]

as a newer player, your primary source of protocores should be from analysing combat data collection packs

[eternal basalt]

You need a dev 30 PR/DR ship

[atomic abyss]

those packs come from cruise pass and the one time research missions

you wont have spare BPs, cos of what hassat said

[bronze prawn]

I hate the dev ships

[little tree]

~~ take It back ~~

[keen sable]

That's prototype core not a research blueprint

[unborn laurel]

Why won't the N at the corner disappear, there's nothing new. Or am I missing something?

[glass basin]

how many of the IX cannons from T6 is enough

[storm heron]

depends on how many tempestas you use at one time

[harsh cargo]

Using the plans for double rewards and double oil usage also doubles used morale?

That explains so much, thanks

[earnest crag]

Are the event rate up characters good for early-game players or just skip?

[eternal basalt]

Skip, with 33 cubes

[earnest crag]

Oh okay, thanks!

[glass basin]

skip, unless there's a character you really like

[storm heron]

[little tree]

Who should I use all my Dr prints on hinden or kearesage?

[stark quiver]

Who do you wanna finish first

[glass basin]

hinden is an earlier DR so she's likely to receive coin dev earlier in the future
that being said it depends on your needs and how close they are to 30

[little tree]

Neither are close to 30 are they about equal prio or is 1 better for content over the other

[stark quiver]

Kear for anti light WITH hvars and Yorktown 2
Hinden for opsi bossing with 2 Ur ca guns preferred

[little tree]

I don't own Yorktown

[stark quiver]

If they are pr7 bps don’t use on pr6

[little tree]

They are not

[stark quiver]

I mean I guess you can use them on hinden

Or is save them

[glass basin]

from optimization perspective it's best to use generic BP on later DR ships
but for gameplay you'd want to funnel resources into one so you can use them earlier for tough content

[little tree]

They are pr6 prints can't go beyond that.

[stark quiver]

I would save because it doesn’t make a difference wether you use them now or later

[little tree]

Okay

[alpine plover]

cant log in through ld player, how to fix?

nvm fixed it by restarting it

[vital meadow]

any1 got a 1 shot comp for nagato meta?

[tawny bear]

Is buying gifts for sirius bugged

[hollow gust]

There are a lot , depends on what you have

[storm heron]

#gameplay-help message one example

[eternal moth]

Eldridge tanking? Interesting

[storm heron]

it's actually more than enough bulk you need

even mog can tank

[zenith heron]

Its there to proc the upgraded skill even faster than in mid or right position

[storm heron]

the main problem should not be whether it's faster to proc since it has a cooldown either way, it's just to keep kaza and unzen alive since they do much more damage than eld

[zenith heron]

But usually though within this setup, do you usually miss a lot in the 3rd airstirke? Because my fleet does miss at the 3rd one... its where Nagato moves a lot, and its pretty much RNG for my Eldridge Slow...

[storm heron]

yess it's rng

but so far 100% against current solo and 1.1m+ against assist to get 75 syncs

[zenith heron]

This does have more damage anyway than sacrificing Hak for Impla but no slow I guess... Plus I have no Vit and +13 equips so I usually do 2 tries...

[vital meadow]

can i ahve the gears for that particular fleet

[storm heron]

tech and gears is under the message

I'm f2p and relative new too so no oaths and only 2 tenrais

[hollow gust]

Yeah I don't like Eldridge comps compared to mogador, less damage output so less consistent. And unzen doesn't get to shine

[storm heron]

either you can gamble mogador alive by +13 ing auxes or just eldridge and gamble on movement instead

I also have no goldburn

[hollow gust]

The Eldridge comp has like what , 30 -35 bars before last airstrike vs mogador brings it down to 20

[spring bolt]

no mog comp is way more consistent, people were complaining "why she can't do 100% consistent"

[vital meadow]

if i dont have lvl 125 amagi who are some alternatives

[zenith heron]

I guess going Eld is the straight one for me since Mog is still 4 star and no +13 aux yet...

[forest palm]

no comp is a 100% consistent these days

[storm heron]

Alsace or soyuz

[storm heron]

what matters is 75 sync points and 100% solo victory rate

[stark quiver]

whats the 2nd best dive bomber after tenrai
not factoring cost or timing

[storm heron]

la9

[sweet delta]

What matters is keeping CV rld tech at max

[stark quiver]

hate to say this but that aint a dive bomber

[sweet delta]

Depends on the enemy and ship and fleet

[stark quiver]

oh shit, uh single target heavy armor

[storm heron]

oh i mean skyraider loll

[spring bolt]

also, some are obsessed with mog tank, while unzen can tank easily. current comps have very high damage celling/medium so trading some damage for consistency is the best way to go imo

[hollow gust]

Tried that already , moggy tank more consistent

[undone plover]

inst the idea with mog tank to pull unzen so her torps land? also so unzen can carry double oxy?

[storm heron]

idk my mog died, and yes

[storm heron]

there's the long message that belfast pp sent

#gameplay-help message

[spring bolt]

not in my tests tho, mog tank still has a small chance of dying, and unzen tank only loses 50k ish damage

[sweet delta]

Ignoring timing, skyraider and xsb3c are equal for heavy, but you never ignore timing so xsb3c is likely better

Why not link the message instead of copying it

When people search for it the copies show up at the top even if they're outdated, in case Belfast pp edits it

[vital meadow]

@storm heron for the black plane on shinano? is that the best plane or is there a better like saiun kai?

[storm heron]

oh right sorry

[undone plover]

black plane is fine if shinano is syncing fine
it is a sidegrade of saiun kai

[jaunty glade]

lets say you have a BB fleet and a CV fleet for bosses/sirens - how do you know when to actually use either or?

[wary hawk]

Do we have any resources with meta ship oneshot comps?

[stark quiver]

what rld time does my cvs need to sync with eld slow

[vital meadow]

Is this a good replacement

[stark quiver]

when theres a boss that needs killing, whichever one u use doesnt rly matter

[undone plover]

where are u using her?
also who are your other backliners?

[jaunty glade]

so the point of either or is just for a powerful fleet comp, its not targetting specific mobs?

[vital meadow]

im using for one shot nagato meta

[stark quiver]

its just power, chance gear depending on boss

[stark quiver]

also anyone?

[undone plover]

make a thread and post all your 6 ships
what planes u use on shinano will depend on a lot of factors
and it will be tight if u are going for a one shot

[sweet delta]

Don't expect to one shot nagam if you're still using +10 conv TBs

[vital meadow]

Wasted all my rainbow plates on 8 +13 tenrai

[grizzled sundial]

Due to this event cursed banner , i already reach 400 UR pity point , should i just keep getting copy of Shinano to MLB her ?

[undone plover]

how do u even get 8 tenrai
Have u been on pr4 focus for 2 years

[stark quiver]

8+13 tenrais are crazy

[undone plover]

yes, the other 3 are worse than shinano
especially if u have haku/amagi

[vital meadow]

so what should i be spending my gold plates on

for airplane and main gun

[left cedar]

8 Tenrais is already insane ...

i spend someshitty like 2y in PR3 to get 5 234

[vital meadow]

so what planes are conv tb

[undone plover]

well converging TBs as a prio imo
then tenrai/skyraider/la-9
and HVAR

for guns 3 champy
ply gun
mk7/georgia gun/hinden gun/unzen gun/mog gun
depends what u want to achieve and what u have already

if u want advice specific to u post what u have already

[vital meadow]

im gonna need pics of the gun cuz i have no clue whatr gear ur referring to without pics lmao

[spring bolt]

yearly production rate is somewhere around 5-7 research rainbows when 100% gear focus, 4-5 if ship focus first and gear focus later, so 8 is... yeah somewhere around 2 years, i guess

[storm heron]

the xtra 6 tenrai can be used for all the gold planes priorities

[stark quiver]

ryuusei
saiun kai
ju87
pr7 vit2

[undone plover]

gimme a sec
can u post what u have already at +13?
planes and guns?
if it is a lot of pics make a thread

[vital meadow]

which of the 4 should i +13 first if i were to solely focus on one shotting meta simulation bosses

[stark quiver]

yea just post what u have first, then we can decide

[glass basin]

like these ones

[vital meadow]

I lied not Tenrai but wyverns

[final flint]

Thats like a years worth of gold plates :0

[vital meadow]

i didnt use this channel before this year

[stark quiver]

oh god

[vital meadow]

i literally just went off slaimuda github tier list for gear set up

no think good. blind follow good

[undone plover]

it is okay what is done is done dw about it

[stark quiver]

better late than never

and i mean its not that bad

[spring bolt]

for nagato meta, vit = ryuusei > ju > saiun
but things will change easily for other bosses

[left cedar]

dammm boy, wut a flex in wyverns hum

have more Wyverns than i, and more +13 aswell

[glass basin]

tbf wyvern is not even a bad use of gold plates

[storm heron]

omg +13 WYVERNS

[stark quiver]

btw, what are the boss freeze times for nagatoM and AriM

[storm heron]

AND THEN THERE'S THE OTHER WEEK WHERE I ASK WHO +13 WYVERNS

[vital meadow]

suppose i go +13 some ryuseis then

[left cedar]

its not bad, agree, bnut its shitty if compared to others needs, since +13 Wyverns are really niched to being usefull, cuz they have uses only in Mobs or maybe in W14/15 cuz Bosses are more like a mob battle than bosses aswell

[undone plover]

u want a mix of these 4 planes at +13 depending on what your comp will end up using
usually most anti heavy comps will use 6 of these planes
so if u want to min/max for nagato META u can show your 3 CV that u are trying to use for best advice
of course like dfg said some future comp might use a different mix

[left cedar]

its nice to get a variety of Ryuuseis, Junkers and Vit2

[vital meadow]

is the bottom left plane the junker plane

[left cedar]

cuz timmings change here and there and u will be able to change ur loadouts easily with that options

[undone plover]

who are u using? which 3 CV? also what is your CV RLD tech? and is anyone oathed?

[undone plover]

wouldnt saiun, junker, vit be a better mix? since it gives more flexibility?

[vital meadow]

if its a rainbow unit i have them oathed outside of warkai and sandy kai and the new UR pr7

[undone plover]

and are u using amagi/haku/nano? or is it implacable? what is your CV RLD tech and are u using mogador? all of this will change which planes u should use

[vital meadow]

i only spend hours upon hours theory crafting for FGO. I will literally spend 6 hours to save 5 min for a lotto event i dont have much energy for theorycrafting other gachas

[coral karma]

Are the curret event ships worth spending cubes on?

[undone plover]

well other ppl have done the theorycraft if u want to rely on them

[stark quiver]

onlyt if u like them

[vital meadow]

im gonna be using implacable instead of amagi and not using mogador. idk how to check cv rld tech

[undone plover]

change this to tech and show it again

[coral karma]

The ones I want i can get from the event store

[stark quiver]

is this for nagatoM? if so dont

[stark quiver]

well thats good, then just do event and dont pull

[glass basin]

correct me if I'm wrong but
Imo the first couple of C6N, Ju87 and ryuusei take priority for planes +13
for wyvern it's not a bad upgrade when AA is needed later on in story
but then there's flapjack

[left cedar]

in my personal experience generally i use Junkers, Vit2 and Ryuu, rare times i use Saiun
but i'm not the best to be compared here, cuz i dont use IJN neither USS CVs fleets...

[coral karma]

I think that's what imma do since it gives two wisdom cubes for the stages I'm at

[vital meadow]

rld says +19

[undone plover]

is your amagi MLB?

[vital meadow]

ye

not 125 though

can ya gimme a good gear comp for amagi cv im gonna use her to farm the event and level her up/affection to oath her

[storm heron]

saiun good too since saiun is considerably faster than any of those

[stark quiver]

flapjack, tenrai, wyvern
forgot if third slot is also tb, if so another wyvern

[spring bolt]

nagato meta is simple, not moving for 1st and 2nd attacks and moving for 3rd
ari meta is... very complicated, see the pic

[coral karma]

Also rate my fleets, just don't mind some of their levels, using the event to grind them out

[glass basin]

yeah the mode change vit2 is pretty good deal too

[coral karma]

Planning on changing ark royal out for Aquila

[stark quiver]

ah thanks,
any specific timing i need for nagaM? or just rainbow unga bunga

[storm heron]

23.6 or was it 22.6 for 3rd airstrike mog sync?

[vital meadow]

Like this?

[stark quiver]

perfect

[undone plover]

yeah that is fine for levelling

[storm heron]

anything is fine for levelling tbh

[left cedar]

yeah, i know ... they are faster, but i like more DMG over time ... if i can sync with Vit2, Ryuu or Junkers i would, cuz more DMG, in rare times i have to use Saiun to fit here and there

[spring bolt]

not that i aware of, usually just go slow carriers/slow bbs for 3 takeoffs/shots and you will be fine

[stark quiver]

time to grind tech

[storm heron]

but I guees that's true, saiun become less useful as there are now options like 4% manjuu and vit change mode

nagaM comps are just:
Do you have a lot of +13 and good ships? go for one shot
Else just go for general heavy bossing setup and aim for 2 shot

[spring bolt]

22.6 - 23.3 usually

[left cedar]

not sure about Manju, iirc he make it them slower

and make them even slower can be a bad thing in short fights

[storm heron]

or fights with heavy vanguard pressure

or Mods

[undone plover]

@vital meadow this is an in-depth guide to nagato meta if u are interested, u can skip to the comp section, it has a few examples, the idea is to sync all your 3 CV together so the choice of TB will depend on that
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jz4SSft0mzUIM4x3axrK5MTgZ_I-WG_L/view

a big decision for meta fights as well is whether u use helena or not, if your fleet tech is not top tier u might have to rely on her but in your case having oaths will certainly help and if amagi is at 125 it might be enough to go for the non-helena version
if u want help make a thread when your amagi is 125

For now use haku implac shinano and do your best to 2 shot
I wouldnt +13 the TB until you are sure they are properly synced but if u cba to figure it out then do 2 of each and maybe like esdeath said ignore saiun kai

[glass basin]

btw if I wasn't playing during PR4
Is it worth it to buy C6N with prototype cores or by swapping research focus

[undone plover]

what PR season have u done so far?

[glass basin]

was playing 1 and 2 and just rejoined re4cently

[undone plover]

can u SS your pr4 screen in shipyard?

[glass basin]

I only have agir and recently finished anchorage, halfway thru august
haven't touched other ones

[undone plover]

when u mean u have agir do u mean she is dev30? or u unlocked her?

[sweet delta]

Screenshot everything

[undone plover]

u can do pr4 for short term gain
or switch to pr5 for long term min/maxing

pr4 focus is easier in general and u can finish the season relatively fast since it has coin up and catchup
pr5 will get coining in january most likely which means u will also finish it relatively fast when that happens
I prefer pr4 focus since it is less of a headache
focus getting agir/haku in research academy and use coin on avp, anchorage and marco

[ivory spruce]

Trying to clear chapter 13, realizing I need good anti air, any recommendations?

[storm heron]

the best anti air recommendation for each ship should be found here https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home , but if you struggle you can min max by asking here

[stark quiver]

sandiego

[spring bolt]

sandy kai, guam, laffey2, shimanto, cheshire

[mossy void]

Where do you get or farm for the gold Old Demi cannon in this event

[undone plover]

T5

[mossy void]

Thanks!

[ivory spruce]

I stopped playing for nearly two years so Im missing Laffey2, I need to build Cheshire. Sandy is retrofitted tho, just gotta get her to lvl 120 then. Also need to finish leveling Guam

[undone plover]

sandy in boss should be enough
triple CV (including unicorn) in mob should also be good enough I think

[ivory spruce]

cool, guess I got some exp farming to do for a bit

[spring bolt]

the 2 of them can shred ch 13 planes easily with enough level and correct equips, just put one in mob and the other in boss
also when equiping carriers, don't use rocket fighters if you need AA, use something like flapjack or f7f. and wyvern/br810 can auto intercept, use them if you have them

[stoic tulip]

I feel your pain, I stopped right after getting musashi

[storm heron]

same but before

[stoic tulip]

I'm glad about the qol changes since then. Story mode splitting from farming events is a really good decision by the devs

[spring bolt]

next, let us farm while watching story

[bright tusk]

is izumo not good against light armor enemies?

[storm heron]

good but better options exist

I don't think anyone uses her specifically for light armor

[elfin hollow]

Are the new meowcifers worth getting?

[hollow gust]

yes

[storm heron]

ah yes, foxgirl

[storm heron]

3 of them worth using

bellamy is imo unusable

[hollow gust]

just get all of them...

[storm heron]

how about roberts, is the cat good?

alright roberts, you will be a part of every just like other unusable mfs

[strong tartan]

isn't every good

[storm heron]

that's why roberts is about to be a part of every

[stark quiver]

lets like not scrap limited stuff

[vale spindle]

I wouldnt scrap limited time cats

[storm heron]

[vale spindle]

its the same reason why i dont scrap limited time ships even the shit ones with shit fleet tech

[storm heron]

like purple heart?

is there even a chance collabs like the quad S might rerun?

[stark quiver]

probbaly not
renewing liscence is a lot of work

[storm heron]

[bronze prawn]

how good is Ganj-i-Sawai?

[late flame]

all tempestra ships are really collection/waifu only

[bronze prawn]

sadge

[late flame]

i'd save cubes instead for next UR event / musashi rerun or collab event if you are into that (To Love Ru)

[storm heron]

trouble ship reveal when

[elfin hollow]

Soon

[late flame]

trouble what?

[storm heron]

[elfin hollow]

To love ru= toraburu=trouble

[late flame]

my fuzzy brain before morning coffee missed that totally

[elfin hollow]

~~ some Japanese shenanigans ~~

[bronze prawn]

are ships ever buffed?

[storm heron]

do gacha games with character buff exist?

[elfin hollow]

DD got buff.

[storm heron]

if anything they would buff ships indirectly, like making new content where tempesta ships can shine

[strong tartan]

Mogador

[storm heron]

that's a bugfix

a hotfix

[strong tartan]

yeah but mogadors kit was supposed to be like that from the start then they changed it cause it was literal garbage

[sweet delta]

No it was a buff

[strong tartan]

the main reason they buffed her was cause she kept charging into the enemy and facetanking a ton of damage

[late flame]

would be funny if mog was not fixed and she became first Tier N UR DD

[storm heron]

Woah that's

surprising tbh

I thought the stab without immunity was unintentional

[undone plover]

Ships can get augments which usually buffs them

[storm heron]

to keep the cope exist

[bronze prawn]

were tempestra ships just introduced this patch?

why make them bad

[strong tartan]

No the first tempesta ship was royal fortune if thats what you mean

[sweet delta]

They're about as bad as every other new event ship of the equal rarity

[bronze prawn]

are they mostly bad due to lack of equipment or just the way the faction was designed?

[storm heron]

right now they are bad, wait until there's content where enemy can emp your ships to disable your main gun system and force you to go back to cannons

[bronze prawn]

or class

[sweet delta]

They have limited equipment but they're not inherently bad. There are good Tempesta and there are bad Tempesta

[storm heron]

good tempesta like fancy?

[undone plover]

They are mostly bad cause
1- they cant use normal gear and their special gear sucks
2- they lack AA meaning they die to planes easily
3- their subs are not underwater so they die more easily

some of them are still decent like sushi said

[bronze prawn]

is Ganj good tho of the current tempesta ships

thats what matters most to me rn

[storm heron]

I thought ganj is the good one and fancy bad

[spring bolt]

tbh fancy is like a fargo with no AA

[storm heron]

esp after fancy lore

[bronze prawn]

what does that purple ball mean

[storm heron]

prelim said ganj bad

testing has yet to be performed

[sinful escarp]

it means something like we dont know and can only guess

[bronze prawn]

oh

[undone plover]

But most likely she wont be anything to write about
Especially when she is competing with UR BBs

[bronze prawn]

[storm heron]

what has the biggest number, soyuz ice or Modney's nuke

[keen sable]

It's a crystal ball

[undone plover]

seems soyuz if u count both instances of her barrage

[storm heron]

is there any bigger number? or is 20k the max

[sharp token]

what y'all think about this? anything i need to change or adjust

[keen sable]

Not synced...

[sharp token]

Haku?

[undone plover]

where are u seeing 20k .
there are a lot of barrage numbers in this list https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine
u can check them yourself
but idk which ones are aimed or which ones have the highest physical hit rates

iirc for CV chkalov has one of the highest barrage dmg but cant be sure
for BB I am not too sure sry, maybe it is musashi

[stark quiver]

bruh

better

[undone plover]

that timer you see for AVP does not account for her skill

[sharp token]

how far .sec it need to get synced?

[storm heron]

stop yelling

[undone plover]

also a bit of a weird pick ngl
what armor are u using this against?
cuz if it is medium/light hakunano should also carry bf109
and if it is heavy avp should not carry bf109

[stark quiver]

random ss i saved from a friend lol

[storm heron]

no it's like in a single strike damage, in one of Jimmy's Azur lane Videos about w14 bb log I see Modney dealing 20480 damage

[undone plover]

u want avp in the middle and ideally haku and nanu around 0.2 sec earlier and 0.2 sec later

[sharp token]

how can i even do that

[undone plover]

tell me which boss u are fighting I can help you
and what is your CV RLD tech

[jaunty vault]

[storm heron]

change aircraft sidegrade, manjuu, beacon, oaths, rld buff

[sharp token]

i dont have specific boss, just tryna build my cv fleet

[vocal sigil]

after i'm done with 2nd tenrai from pr4 which gear should i focus?

[undone plover]

well u build for boss
there is 2 main comp at your level
anti-medium/light and anti-heavy

[undone plover]

if u are done with agir and haku move on to pr5

[vocal sigil]

ty

[undone plover]

tell me your CV RLD tech maybe I can give both comp example for now

[sharp socket]

take her rld time x0.97

[sharp token]

this one?

[undone plover]

yeah good enough, one sec

[sharp socket]

then just sync avp in the middle, with your other CVs 0.2s ahead and behind her

[undone plover]

are any of em oathed?

[sharp token]

two of em

[undone plover]

the IJN?

[sharp token]

haku and shin

[storm heron]

soyuz is 1680 on med and modney is 1624, the problem is I see Ganj with 5760 but idk if that's a single instance or multiple instances, how do I differ them, they both has spread and splash

[undone plover]

this is for light armor and medium armor enemies

[hollow gust]

what site is that lmao

[undone plover]

there is bullet count next to the dmg

[undone plover]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[storm heron]

lol didn't see that

[sharp token]

waiting for heavy

[hollow gust]

and that accounts for skills?

[sweet delta]

Reload skills for the relevant ships should be covered

[undone plover]

this works for heavy
if u dont have the exact planes there are other combinations u can make

[stark quiver]

is lar site easier to use than previous site in ur opinion?

[undone plover]

well u can use renhex and calc the skills for yourself

i like the sync view feature and the skills already being calc'ed
and the quick swap gear options
idk I use both

[sharp token]

it would make a big difference if my haku is still not max affinity?

[undone plover]

well she might whiff some of her torps
is she 100 at least?

can use this instead
not perfect but better

[sharp token]

ofc, she can't be oathed if not

[undone plover]

and this for prev comp

[undone plover]

u would be surprised , I better double check just in case

[sharp socket]

this work for 100aff oathed haku, just upgrade the a6 to +10 when she is 200aff

[storm heron]

damn modney is best nuke in a single number, time to reach 1 milliion damage with modney

[undone plover]

btw these comps are not perfect
if u have cats with high RLD or if u are using helena or fighting bosses with specific debuffs around 20 seconds in opsi u might want to use different comps but for now u can use this as a base and change in future when u get more options and know better how to use CVs

[sharp token]

oh yeah the cats, ill just use the calc myself then

[undone plover]

make sure u put right tech numbers and affinity

and play around with it and see what works best for u with the options u have

[sharp token]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/ does this work fine in phone?

[bronze prawn]

How do we know that to love ru collab is coming

[undone plover]

I think it is not ideal in phone

[undone plover]

it was announced in the JP anni stream

[bronze prawn]

Is there a release date?

[undone plover]

most likely end of november based on last year collab
we should hear more in the upcoming weeks

[trim sparrow]

Need to start being lazy with subs. Which 3 would you guys suggest i work on?

[hollow gust]

flasher Archer Albacore

[undone plover]

96, 37, 81 also works fine if u cba to raise more subs

[trim sparrow]

Flasher is pretty much lvl120 if i awaken her

Maybe ill raise 81 with the 2 americans

[hollow gust]

coolsite

[burnt hill]

is anti air better for vanguards or backline?

[stark quiver]

backline runs staag

[undone plover]

usually frontline does the most AA dmg of the fleet
for backline u mostly stick STAAGs or hazemeyers when they can use AA guns like BB and CVLs

and CV do interception if u give them planes capable of interception like flapjack which also does AA dmg seperately from the AA gear

[light trail]

any tempesta SSRs worth using in any case other than looking hot

[undone plover]

best use for them is to cheese the sub weekly challenge
sushi said fancy is good so maybe with further testing we will know her limits

[light trail]

oh nice. i already cheesed that one with royal fortune tho. anything for golden hind?

[undone plover]

iirc she was decent at best

[ornate narwhal]

When does the week restart

[undone plover]

monday 00:00 UTC-07

[storm heron]

cool calculator https://mrlar.dev/s/aa1e250be46a98dccbc7f2490e9a970791a9ccab

Is this good?

bet no one can copy this fleet

[storm heron]

how does the cheese work? won't they be just revealed all the time?

[undone plover]

they just kill everything on auto

[storm heron]

Is there a video on how they do?

[bright tusk]

Is there a barrage damage list?

[storm heron]

wait they can destroy mines

[undone plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmZ27PVEAs

[undone plover]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine

[ornate narwhal]

Should u put this on her or a toolbox?

[undone plover]

replace one of them for toolbox

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

Should Helena get toolbox and camouflage as well?

[undone plover]

yeah
u can use that combo for all of your cruisers
and your DD will use double toolbox

camo and steering gear is the same so u can use either one with toolbox

[ornate narwhal]

But u only get 1 toolbox buff right?

So why would Laffey want 2?

[undone plover]

because DD usually have a lot of evasion so they dont get a big boost from more evasion
they have very low HP so they get a big boost from HP gear
if u have another 500 hp aux instead of toolbox u can use that instead of 2nd toolbox but early on it is hard to get that

[ornate narwhal]

So don’t use any dmg bonus aux?

[undone plover]

not on frontline ships
later on when u know what u are doing and in certain niche content u can use offensive aux on vanguard ships (usually not on the tank tho )

[storm heron]

0.5% overall damage bonus for 20% more survivability

[stark quiver]

live longer = more damage

[ornate narwhal]

Which other aux gives 500 hp?

[storm heron]

kill faster = can live longer

[sharp socket]

only if living not a problem then more damage is better

[undone plover]

u can check here https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/dd?ship=mogador
swap through the aux gear

u can just do double toolkit and not worry too much tho
most of the other gear is not a big boost

[ornate narwhal]

Ok rn I only have 2 purple toolbox tho

[robust jackal]

Is there a way to sort ships by number of MGMs? looking at CLs and wondering if anyone has 3 besides Ply

[undone plover]

give one to portland
and use the other one on your dd
can use blue toolkit or any other hp aux for now till u get more
open tech boxes if u still have a few not open

[turbid shell]

are Hedgehog necessary to farm this event?

[undone plover]

not in game
and only mgm3 CL is plymouth
can check on wiki if u want
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ships_by_Weapon_Efficiency
although it is not very easy to navigate and PR/META/collab ships are grouped separatly

[turbid shell]

no need ASW gear at all?

[stark quiver]

not rly, i didnt use it and did just fine

[turbid shell]

ok thank you

[trim sparrow]

Gonna start playing opsi again soon Anything major change or still pretty much the same? Havent played since the beginning

CV fleet
BB fleet
2 mobs?

[stark quiver]

cv
Bb
mob
anything perferably crossfleet stack

[trim sparrow]

Got it, right on

[stuck sand]

Is San Diego still worth lvling? Just finished her retrofit😖

[stark quiver]

sandy very gud

[elfin hollow]

One of the best fly swatters.

[stark quiver]

is there a way to make mog lunge faster

[undone plover]

it is fixed at 12s intervals

[stark quiver]

how fast would i want my cvs?

[storm heron]

22.6 - 23.3

at least that's what the tirpitz ambassador said

[undone plover]

that is for nagato META yeah
since u only need to time her to 3rd strike

[stark quiver]

they too slow
they range from 22.65 and 23.26 amagi > nano > haku
wont work right

[storm heron]

mog died?

[stark quiver]

nah, unzen kicked the bucket

[undone plover]

could work tbh
3rd strike wont be perfect anyway

[stark quiver]

nvm problem solved, fuck the vits

14 rld and a dream

do vits like make a big damage difference
a difference of 10 bars of hp to be exact
per strike

[undone plover]

not 10 bars

[stark quiver]

is it perhaps the fact i changed the aux from cata to feontier?

[undone plover]

frontier is essentially a steam cata so doubtful

[stark quiver]

thats odd

[storm heron]

what's ur setup?

[undone plover]

probably u messed up the sync or it was rng difference

[storm heron]

curious

[stark quiver]

actually, ill js send, i need big help

[storm heron]

yes yes, I can help since I am a boomer now

Boomer with 12 gold blank plates

[stark quiver]

This is the result of not grinding tech earlier
Amagi is 200 aff

[wind hazel]

are you tanking unzen

[stark quiver]

no

wait why doesnt kaza have torps

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 ask yourself

[stark quiver]

[storm heron]

lmao boiler kaza

[stark quiver]

actually, dont mind kaza gear, i completely forgot to chance it
but i feel like the entire comp needs a rework

[hollow gust]

If you don't know how to sync to mog just use implacable

[stark quiver]

sacking a lot of damage there, pretty sure i can sync with mog, js need some help

[storm heron]

kaza should deal about 5 bars

[stark quiver]

how do i fix the backline to sync with mog

[wind hazel]

adjust rld

[storm heron]

also are you fighting solo or assist?

[stark quiver]

solo

[wind hazel]

oathed should be lower rld requirement

[hollow gust]

Implacable isn't sacking damage

[stark quiver]

what rld did yall run to sync with mog

[storm heron]

I mean this is +10 conv comp

[wind hazel]

yeah it's low chance to 1shot

it can but it takes some good high roll rng

[stark quiver]

i was missing 10 bars last time

[storm heron]

mog comps are not rng on damage part right, just the survivability

[wind hazel]

i forego rld tuning since im using implacable

no mogs are still mostly rng

[storm heron]

so just need a good mog sync

[wind hazel]

she can miss sometimes

[storm heron]

Oh if she misses last stab big oof

[wind hazel]

but yes 50% of the time she's also dying

[hollow gust]

+17 rld

[storm heron]

my unzen never kick the bucket though

[stark quiver]

no third tenrai

[hollow gust]

I don't get your insistence on using mogador , just use your implacable instead of haku , that's just as reliable

[undone plover]

triple IJN will be higher dmg tho no?
he lacks a lot of +13 gear

[hollow gust]

[stark quiver]

ill try implac then, was seeing if mog will be possible
anyways 200 gold plane plates

[undone plover]

if the goal is one shot and not consistency

[storm heron]

even with haku it is not one shotable, what implac do esp without la9

[hollow gust]

When you can't even fulfill 3 tenrai requirement its is flat smarter to just swap haku out for Alsace or implacable

[storm heron]

but yea you're right since I am assuming it's not enough damage instead of syncing problems

[hollow gust]

Your insistence on triple sakura CV is the thing that's cucking you from oneshotting

[wind hazel]

🧠 use implacable and pray for good proc using rpg adventure aux

[storm heron]

don't alsace need +13 yamato though

[wind hazel]

notice how nobody is talking about alsace

[hollow gust]

+13 is just for consistency

[storm heron]

what about it

[wind hazel]

idk maybe new doesn't have yamato +13

or don't wanna use alsus

[stark quiver]

dont even have the yamato gun

[storm heron]

I mean judging by the amount of gold plate.. oh nvm

[stark quiver]

i would gladly use alsace id i had it

[wind hazel]

you really need some high roll to 1shot this, with those gear

[hollow gust]

Sakura is consistent because you have the +13s , it's piss useless if you can't . You can always do the braindead and use Helena

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 and for star to align so that unzen does ungabunga damage, and mog not dying

[storm heron]

helena is more consistent than trying the 100% comp with +10s

[stark quiver]

how much gold plates to +13 a gold plane, js asking

[wind hazel]

for what it is worth i have all +13 and it is still not 100% 1shot for me either, some day unzen is the only vanguard left, some day everything align but torpedo damage smol pp

[undone plover]

120

[stark quiver]

yea 18 bars left, helena unga bunga we try

idk will alsace work without yamato gun, im honestly down to run anything

[storm heron]

damn 28 bars left

[trim sparrow]

Whats the yamato gun?

[storm heron]

the musashi gun

[stark quiver]

/twin 460
wait

[undone plover]

with 14 RLD u will need to use saiun to sync to helena
get them under 22s strike time
pref around 21.5

[wind hazel]

/wiki twin_460

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_410mm_(3rd_Year_Type)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_40mm_Pom-Pom
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_40mm_Bofors_(Mk_1_Mount)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_40mm_Vickers_(Type_91)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_406mm_(16"/45_Mk_5)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_406mm_(SK_C/34_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_40mm_Bofors_(Type_5)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_40mm_Bofors_Hazemeyer
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_40mm_Bofors_STAAG
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_410mm_(Type_3_Shell)

Oct 26, 2024, 3:45 AM

[wind hazel]

i regret

[storm heron]

lol pompoms

[trim sparrow]

Oh the purple one musa uses?

[stark quiver]

bruh im high its triple

[wind hazel]

this

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_460mm_(Type_94)

[storm heron]

black rarity

[trim sparrow]

Got it

[wind hazel]

also im not sure if alsace viable without the gun, better to look for alt option

[storm heron]

musashi is yamato class? or is yamato musashi class?

[stark quiver]

yammy > musashi

[trim sparrow]

Yamato gun pretty much only good for the meta fights? Ive never used it on reg content cause its slow. +13 too

[wind hazel]

which one of you pointed right two times before pointing left

[undone plover]

it is 5 am

[frank pulsar]

i just woke up

my stupidity is at its peak rn

[storm heron]

No it's not

[stark quiver]

mfw bro discovers timezone
also ew light mode

[storm heron]

light mode superior?

[hollow gust]

[stark quiver]

is there a prio for +13 convergings or just whatever i use

[hollow gust]

A couple of each

[stark quiver]

thx, i found out i have some spare parts, so i can +13 2 more planes

[sharp token]

this works?

[storm heron]

rip sync

[storm heron]

maybe try equipping a better plane than the suisei on avp

it might slow her down a bit to sync with ther rld buff included

[zenith heron]

Like a Helldiver

[sharp token]

if i put helldiver it will hit 24

so i'll just adjust the ijn cv?

[hollow gust]

Avp has a reload skill

she is really fast

[sweet delta]

If you can't use the calculator on phone, then just look in game and make AvP around 23.7s

23 is between Shinano and haku and divide by about 0.97 for her reload skill

[sharp token]

then this works?

[sweet delta]

You want AvP in between, not first

[sharp token]

you mean multiply? like 23.7×0.97?

[sweet delta]

If the game says she's 23.7 then she'll be about 23.7*0.97 in game. But the calculator does that for you automatically

[clever lance]

Any ships worth pulling for this event?

[spring bolt]

for collection or pass
the gold cats have much better value

[clever lance]

Just one of each for the cats?

[inland nest]

I haven't played in a year and tried claiming mail coins but my coins didn't go up, does mail expire?

[spring bolt]

event cats are unique, yes
if you already have one, for example drake, you get 2000 coins

[inland nest]

Nvm i found a storage thingy under mail

[spring bolt]

mail now have a storage, coin and oil from mails goes to storage first

[inland nest]

Ye thanks!

[spring bolt]

massive storage, enjoy

[inland nest]

:o

[blissful hamlet]

is unicorn the lowest oil CV that have preload?

[wise elk]

Im new what banner should i be pulling on

[sharp token]

all i can do is
Shin: 23.36
Avp: 23.50
Haku: 23.66

is this ok?

about avp it's (in game time 24.23)*0.97 right

[grizzled sundial]

Doesnt matter which event banner you choose , it will draw ship from the other event banner . But if you dun care about event ship , pick light to save cube

[wise elk]

Alr

[sweet delta]

the second event banner doesn't include the new (better) Tempesta ships. Either pull on leftmost event or Light

[robust shadow]

are the event maps good to farm gold?

[late flame]

nope

[grizzled sundial]

Nope

[robust shadow]

dam... so if i need gold i cant play event...

[grizzled sundial]

Only for event point and may be gold cannon bp

Accumulate event point for milestone reward and exchange goods in event store.

[robust shadow]

i need more gold to roll banner... havent gt the new units yet

[grizzled sundial]

It is a trap for guys who just start , dun over-invest

[lilac ocean]

Event maps are worse than chapter 9 this time around for gold. Really rough

[little tree]

Nagto m is heavy right ?

[storm heron]

wait I thought it's general

[robust shadow]

haha. i really hope they remove gold for rolling... gold is like so better used to upgrade other stuffs

[storm heron]

yea there's a reason people overcap on gold

so they can roll with no worries

[grizzled sundial]

You dont do event mission for gold , you do it for other goodies that normally can not be accessed if you just start playing.

[storm heron]

solution is to complete event asap and then grind on 12-4

[lilac ocean]

Still grinding on 11-4 myself. Haven’t tackled 12 yet

[robust shadow]

well guess thats wad i need to do... probably will need to skip the blueprints

[vale kite]

which one should i go? I only have New Jersey and I'm lvl 55

[storm heron]

shinano

[keen sable]

T6 is fine

[lilac ocean]

I’ve gotten a lot of mileage on Shimakaze. Also good if you don’t have a strong vanguard yet

[vale spindle]

shimakaze has a lot of competition, and shinano doesn't

[keen sable]

Limit break existing ur

[clever lance]

Any items worth farming in event ?

[lilac ocean]

Not unless you use tempesta ships often

[full musk]

This banner worth pulling?

[late flame]

not with your cube count

[full musk]

Should I skip event?

Or better put save up

[stark quiver]

skip banner, do event stages

[full musk]

Bet thx

[grizzled sundial]

Dont do it , swallow the bitter pill this time and save for Musashi.

[tropic tusk]

does oath ship recover faster then non oath?

[grizzled sundial]

No

[tropic tusk]

my oath ship finish recover while the non oath still have abit

[grizzled sundial]

2nd floor of your dorm recover morale faster than first floor

[tropic tusk]

yea they all in 2nd floor

[trim sparrow]

Im a little confused i want to use Yumi and Fubuki but it doesnt look like i have their modules? Was i supposed to earn them?

[hollow gust]

Yes it does , oath gets extra 10 moral per hour

[tropic tusk]

arr i see no wounder

[hollow gust]

1st floor 50
2nd floor 60
Oath +10

[tropic tusk]

mod as in their wep? it was limited on the event if u missed it its gone till rerun(if they rerun)

[trim sparrow]

Damn, right on

[tropic tusk]

i feel the pain too i got yumi but because i just started playing on that event so i didnt know shit now im just crying with her on no wep

[trim sparrow]

Are they hella weaker without them? I still wanna just use them but not if theyre hella weaker

[tropic tusk]

yes very weak without them

[trim sparrow]

Damn, well that sucks, thanks for the heads up

[keen mural]

I've got a question about gear lab, if you upgrade a piece that is already +10 or whatever does it reset or not?
About to have enough to make the first craft.

[tropic tusk]

mats for upgrade will refun but not money

[keen mural]

Alright, thanks

[thick venture]

I need a crash course on opsi

Never really understood what to do

/What to buy

[tropic tusk]

Opsi is basically use for getting mats for crafting in lab

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[thick venture]

Yeah ik but like what's the optimal way to do opsi

[trim sparrow]

Is the fargo direct drone good to use on anyone? Good aux or meh?

[tropic tusk]

Spam 5 for gold and rainbow

[wind hazel]

start by exploring the entire map

[thick venture]

After?

[sweet delta]

buy and do all special coordinates and things

[tropic tusk]

Buy all but blue and purple mat as U will get alot just by playing opsi

[thick venture]

Thanks

[fickle hollow]

Is the new event gold cat good with IJN fleet

[lucid eagle]

What would the best fleet be for my friend? asking on his behalf

[tranquil gyro]

Is Amagi CV better use for mob or boss fleet?

[vale spindle]

boss but shes really good in either

[copper pine]

So i was pressing yesterdays daily raid 3 minutes ago, but then time shift to reset time.. now im frozen like this.. do anyone ever had anything like this?

[atomic abyss]

Just restart the game

[copper pine]

Did twice ender

Still like that

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

Ask him to refer to this
Use Nelson in place of Pennsylvania, with Unicorn and Roma
Frontline follow the guide

[copper pine]

Yup im stuck in limbo ..

[wind hazel]

restart phone/emulator

[sinful elk]

Chat are these gears correct for her

[wise elk]

Is this character good or bad

[atomic abyss]

yes

[wise elk]

Rip

[atomic abyss]

one of the worst possible gold rarity ships

[wise elk]

Your joking💀

[copper pine]

Btw ender, its fixed, but the restart app didnt fix without restarting phone. probably a note for the developers if possible

[atomic abyss]

it's more likely your phone

[sinful elk]

Then uhh why does her dmg is kinda low (for me)

[copper pine]

Could be tho.. s24 ultra having bug is.. kinda oof i guess

[wind hazel]

she's lv100

[atomic abyss]

she's the highest damaging DD in the game against light armour

[sinful elk]

Oh light

[atomic abyss]

if she's doing little - means either she's underlevelled or you're trying to kill heavies

she's not a torp DD - why would she be good against heavy

[sinful elk]

And watarase here is good too right

[atomic abyss]

not too sure why you're using her
but yes