gameplay-help

[storm heron]

does this clear?

[viscid swift]

without enough Helena scans I would guess not

also, use SG radar on Helena even with 457s, you'll at least get your first and 2nd Salvos within her Scan's uptime

[stark quiver]

[sweet delta]

On low tech or with low rld BBs we tried it two years ago #1007811022788251699 message

[viscid swift]

wait am I looking at exactly, the comments aren't 100% clear

and by that I mean what set ups were used and which result screens are for what

they also seems to be against repulse which yeah

[sweet delta]

Idk all I remember was gph shitting on me for not using triple 10-12 volley champ so I showed mixing in 457s to be better

And it shouldn't be hard to verify on nagato now, even if nagato stops favors 3 salvo

[viscid swift]

well Repulse would probably favor desyncing your BBs more than a more "typical" META fight

[sweet delta]

It was not desynced at all

Champ afct vanguard with others on 457 actually gives perfect sync

[viscid swift]

that's Vanguard specifically though

[sweet delta]

It is

[forest palm]

[storm heron]

[left cedar]

[viscid swift]

this isn't gonna be conclusive for anything but it's rather interesting food for thought

1st SS: 3 +13 Champaign Guns, 3 salvos
2nd and 3rd: Champy on Vanny for 4 salvo set up, +13 457 on NJ, +10 457 on FDG, double shell for the latter 2
last 2: 3 +13 Champaign guns, 4 salvos

BB reload tech was tuned down to nothing

these were all done against Ark Royal META

[left cedar]

have a way to spawn old METAs ?

i already did all them to max pts

[viscid swift]

I never did Ark Royal when she came out

and only got her to 25k for the longest time

[left cedar]

shit, sometimes i just wanna a playground to make my dumb will

[viscid swift]

yeah, that's pretty much why I held off for so long

[sharp socket]

why no helena

[stark quiver]

you dont need helena for everything, and she makes tests innaccurate

[sharp socket]

the testing im doing includes helena, thus it needs 4x more data and will also feature a chart if i figure out how to do so

[hollow gust]

how are you not oneshotting

[sharp socket]

no helena

[viscid swift]

because I was trying not to one shot for some consistency

[sharp socket]

helena is the sole reason why i started my testing

[viscid swift]

because I was deliberately trying not to

[hollow gust]

also shes not finish

[stark quiver]

helena isnt consistent, and you want as little changing variables as possible

[sharp socket]

the purpose of my testing was to find out if 457 gives more consistent results than champagne against med/heavy meta fight

while using helena on both

[viscid swift]

you can still extrapolate to a certain extent the effect Helena will have

pretty much all of the aforementioned comps should still sync with Helena just fine

at least for the first 2 salvos

[sharp socket]

i went with the assumption that champagne 3 salvo with 3 scan helena cannot one shot, which is why i was testing 457 for more consistent 2 shot

[viscid swift]

one shot Nagato META? no

[sharp socket]

however, my old results showed 3 salvo champagne with 0 scan helena will result in a 3 shot, which is not desirable for practical use

i did not test max ceiling, though i expect 3 salvo champagne with 3 scan helena will have higher ceiling than 457 with 4 scan helena

i also did not test long fights like CM

[forest palm]

Meta you're really looking for consistent 2 shots, more than 1 shots

[sharp socket]

how long is harbiter actually

[sweet delta]

[stark quiver]

0 x 58 = 0 🧠

[storm heron]

yeah iirc 88s

0x58 s

[sweet delta]

Are you a hex maniac?

[plain saffron]

gph talking like normal people challenge

[runic bluff]

what is this reconnaissance zones in opsi maps??

[jaunty vault]

are you talking about the star collection missions that ask you to perform reconnaissance x times

[runic bluff]

yeah

[viscid swift]

just run that node the specified number of times basically

[jaunty vault]

recon here is basically collecting the tiles that give adaptive stats

[coarse heron]

Which guns are actually worth taking past +10? BB shelling guns I assume but anything else?

[autumn pumice]

So is PR7 UR plane the best rocket fighter?

[viscid swift]

a Plymouth gun for Plymouth, Mogador gun, and a few CA guns after you're done with BB guns

[viscid swift]

for medium and heavy armor yes

[coarse heron]

Got it, and for AA plates just uhhh
Roombas first I guess?

[viscid swift]

ehh, kind do whatever with them to be honest, I just hoarded them until I got a bunch of 57s

[coarse heron]

Yeah it doesn’t really feel like it does that much for AA guns

[forest palm]

don't think you really need +13 AA guns

[coarse heron]

OpSi damage bonus

Gotta get that extra %

[plain saffron]

It increase dmg by 18% like guns

[hollow gust]

[forest palm]

[zenith heron]

Difference for the White Vit 2 and the Blue Converging Vit 2

[forest palm]

that's it

Mod Vit is Converging

[eager mulch]

[blazing shale]

Does amagi have a tldr yet for haku?

With the dmg

[eager mulch]

wdym tldr

[jaunty vault]

too long, didnt read

[eager mulch]

what does it mean for a ship to have a too long didn’t read for another ship

[stark quiver]

shes better

[blazing shale]

By how much tho

[eager mulch]

do you think you can quantify their difference?

[blazing shale]

Idk if dum or trolling, probably both

[stark quiver]

enough to replace haku in the nano implac comp

[jaunty vault]

typical mikuwu

[stark quiver]

anyways dunno exact numbers, mayb some1 else knows

[forest palm]

not everything needs to be quanitfied down to the most minute number, she's better and that's all

[little tree]

Haku is still worth gettong fs5 if you don't have implac?

[dusk maple]

rest assured if your haku team can beat something, amagi cv can too

[jaunty vault]

haku FS5 is worth even if you have implacable
in fact, its got nothing to do with implacable

[eager mulch]

gn cooper

[jaunty vault]

gn

[stark quiver]

im not coop

[blazing shale]

Hmm yeah she's gud but the question was about the summary for that

[forest palm]

[little tree]

Ah just making sure everyone was talking about dropping Haku for amagi

[blazing shale]

If u dont have it that's fine

[eager mulch]

better support, and close enough damage that I don’t care if it’s better or worse

[stark quiver]

summary : shes good so she can replace haku in haku,nano,implac, bc she buffs torps n shit

[blazing shale]

Summary for the dmg for both tho

[jaunty vault]

yeah but how much close

[forest palm]

we're not here to give write ups

[jaunty vault]

bro wants the too long, can't read but still I want it ver

[blazing shale]

So what's sam here for then

[stark quiver]

sam isnt here

[blazing shale]

He left the server?

[forest palm]

what sam does for his guides is separate for what we do in this channel

[stark quiver]

no he isnt here to give us writeups in this chanenel

[blazing shale]

Sheesh

[little tree]

~~ I thought Sam's job was guid maker ~~

[forest palm]

besides I doubt you'd even understand

[jaunty vault]

not like he quantifies what a ship does in his vals

[eager mulch]

[stark quiver]

smh lying about sleeping

[sweet delta]

Sam says amagi CV is amazing, and Sam says haku fs5 is amazing

[stark quiver]

bro has sam on speed dial

[forest palm]

[delicate otter]

Quick question: Does Bismarck's Promisory Letter work with Bismarck Zwei too?

[plain saffron]

Yes

[wispy cosmos]

what's the current event pool based off

[fluid brook]

Heavy

[void junco]

can someone tell me how to find out when started azur lane??

[fluid brook]

Azur Lane was published in May 25, 2017, in Android and iOS. Although idk about the CN/JP versions

[south sequoia]

May 25 2017 is when cn started

EN came in august 2018

JP came in september 2017

[void junco]

i mean like how to find out when i started playing the game cause in case i lost my account i need it to recover

[stark quiver]

you cant r;y rn

[south sequoia]

There isn't a way outside the anniversary event

[void junco]

soo hv to wait till the next anniversary??

[south sequoia]

Pretty much

[soft raft]

Or remember what event you started on and look it up on the wiki

[south sequoia]

Recovery support has other methods of questioning to ask you if your account ever gets lost

[south sequoia]

^

[stark quiver]

if you lost your account you cant really go in and see for anni
if you use apple, you might be able to see when you downloaded the game

[forest palm]

See if you can find out when you downloaded AL

Provided you haven't uninstalled at any point

[foggy phoenix]

Are the AA guns I need to trigger North Carolinas Augment AA buff special ones? Because it says long range AA. And which of those is the easiest to get/unlock?

[sweet delta]

all four are in gear lab only, it's the orange arc symbol

[fickle hollow]

would this be good on watarase?

[stark quiver]

yes

[fickle hollow]

[forest palm]

it's good on any CB, CA, or CL

[fickle hollow]

[forest palm]

[mighty linden]

which one is better for agir, triple 305 or triple 240?

[west lichen]

need some suggestions, i just finished up Izumo in PR1 and finally got enough tech points to do FDG, i did get Ulrich last week, and i also have Roon, should i keep going with FGD or go for Agir? oR, the sneaky third option, Kearsarge?

[sweet delta]

fdg because she's coinable, and it's unlikely you should be using UR bulins on ulrich

[west lichen]

she coinable? what do you mean

[sweet delta]

same as izumo, you can spend coins to increase dev level

[west lichen]

ohhhhh right yeah

[lucid dirge]

Does preload counts towards officer's sword skill?

[sweet delta]

yes it uses up the sword skill

[lucid dirge]

Sad 😦

[sweet delta]

it's only 20 FP, no big deal

[crisp tree]

Who should I start to Lb?

[sweet delta]

nobody

it's all or nothing, don't dump bulins one at a time, and newer URs are usually better

[coarse heron]

He’s got no dock space I say he should

[sweet delta]

i say he should expand dock space

[coarse heron]

Why not both

[lyric stump]

is it owrth it tho

[plain saffron]

Nope

[hollow gust]

[lucid eagle]

is Kii better than Nelson?

[crisp tree]

At what level should I stop upgrading skills?

[bold cove]

10

[storm heron]

upgrade the skills of the ship that you use

[honest tendon]

Does anyone have a build recommendations?

[lucid eagle]

I just pulled san francisco, is she better than my portland?

[storm heron]

most ships without max skill can survive the farming place, so usually people maxed strong ships skill while leave the bad ships at level 6

[crisp tree]

Unicorns skill worth maxing? Rn im just trying to get the skill to a point where it heals 10% per air strike thingy

[inner delta]

san fran is a solid ship that can be use as tank, offtank, or healer but she's not priority just keep portland

[sweet delta]

according to the wiki, she maxes out at 8% heal per airstrike

[storm heron]

build are tailor made according to what you are fighting, but you can visit ectl or sam's guide for equipment guide

I forgot where to find the link

[crisp tree]

Oh, that's sad, guess I'll just get her to 8% I already have her heal at 7% anyways

[sinful escarp]

might as well max it, unicorn is someone you will be using even at end game so you arent wasting anything

[storm heron]

you should be able to do /guide in #bot-spam

[fickle hollow]

I am 1 star away from Shinao MLB and i will get bulin soon ,should i get Her or Uvh from exchange( i dont have Shimakaze and uvh)

[coarse heron]

Shinano, like 99% of ships, isn't really usable without MLB, so it's using Shinano now versus waiting another month after getting another ship you also can't use yet.

[fickle hollow]

ig i will use it for Shinano now then i will get 2 bulins for amagi( from monthly and shop)

[hollow gust]

Or just wait at most a month and you can get a uvh

[fickle hollow]

Thank u for ur advice

[storm heron]

[hollow gust]

Plus people should be finishing cruise pass , that's another free ur bulin

[fickle hollow]

i used that on Shinano

[fleet urchin]

is ulrich better than friedrich?

[inner delta]

no

uhv has pretty niche use case or if you dont have any other good bb option

[fleet urchin]

i have them both

but i kinda maxed friedrich

my all bbs btw

if any of these are better than fdg, lemme know

[inner delta]

fdg is just a good mob ship, not many beat her

[fleet urchin]

aight thank you 🙏🏻

[icy cave]

Events that have reran once already, will they rerun a second time?

[cobalt rapids]

they get archived instead

[icy cave]

Ah, I just want their banner to rerun

Chances of getting older ships in perm pool is so low or im just not lucky enough

[cobalt rapids]

its low yea, better to wait for ww if u wanna fish for those last collection ships

[icy cave]

What's ww?

[cobalt rapids]

wishing well

[icy cave]

Ahh okk

[elder slate]

never understood how EX stages work.. is the boss health proportionate to ship level and equips?

[cobalt rapids]

it is fixed

[elder slate]

saw this run with lvl 1 UR with max skills

[cobalt rapids]

some newer EXes have two modes instead

[cobalt rapids]

u can get away with alot if ure good at dodging, like stacking lv1 buffers and only 1 dmg dealer

to a degree u can also do that on auto for this ex depending on ur account

[dusk maple]

low ship level = more score

[pliant acorn]

Where to delete sirius files on 3d dorm?

[coarse heron]

You have to delete the game and re-download it without the 3D dorm files.

[pliant acorn]

Thanks

[coarse heron]

make sure your account is bound first

[gaunt mortar]

could someone help me with a team for c1 on event rn

[plain saffron]

In the 3d dorm interface somewhere
Yes you can

[plain saffron]

You can delete per ship fike for 3d doem

Which is like few hundreds MB for sirius

[cobalt rapids]

mlb hood and enty, get unicorn
hood unicorn enterprise - portland helena and ur starter destroyer

[gaunt mortar]

mlb?

[jaunty vault]

max limit break

[cobalt rapids]

max limit break or full stars

[jaunty vault]

[gaunt mortar]

i dont think i have portland tho

[elder slate]

thats a rare account.. minato aqua w a bunch of non mlb ssrs

[cobalt rapids]

u can grab her from guild shop

[gaunt mortar]

ah need to join a guild tyty

[elder slate]

general advice is to focus on max limit break-ing a fews SSRs instead of spreading your gold bulins on all of them

[fast plaza]

sandy is worth 125 right?

[jaunty vault]

she's in the top1% of the ships to 125 at the very least

[gaunt mortar]

ah alrighty tyvm

[fast plaza]

alr, thanks

[gaunt mortar]

i dont play much but tryna get into it and just level the ones i like

[jaunty vault]

btw, you don't need to be in a guild to access guild shop and you get 5k guild coins as a newbie

[gaunt mortar]

tyty is portland an elite ship?

o nvm found her

[jaunty vault]

rare, can be retrofitted to elite

[plain saffron]

Huh double banner

[atomic abyss]

hmm?

[forest palm]

they're running the previous Tempesta alongside the new ones

[coarse heron]

pog

[plain saffron]

And of course they come with augment to make them even usable

Can't believe they continue doing this shitty stuff

[atomic abyss]

as in the new tempestas?

[plain saffron]

Yeah

[storm heron]

[tight jetty]

ppl can i ask about nagato META bossfight here

[atomic abyss]

yes

[plain saffron]

Yes

Also the "momotalk" though it's named closer to twitter

[tight jetty]

this fleet deals 1mil dmg average

[atomic abyss]

replace hindy with unzen

[soft dagger]

agir with helena/mogador

[tight jetty]

i dont have unzen

[cobalt rapids]

replace implac with haku

[tight jetty]

will haku dev30 no FS work?

[cobalt rapids]

eh yea but shes missing quite abit when it comes to oneshotting
implac would be more consistent

[soft dagger]

is that impla wearing a La-9 tho?

[tight jetty]

oh wait i forgot to show gear

[cobalt rapids]

ull just need better star alignment than me

[soft dagger]

how reliable is agir slow?

[cobalt rapids]

unreliable

[atomic abyss]

unreliable

at that point use eld

[tight jetty]

here my gear

[cobalt rapids]

i think the rate is less than 50%

[cobalt rapids]

eldr is just better

[soft dagger]

just use impla with helena at that point, shima can replace unzen

[soft dagger]

what is the rate if eldridge replacing agir in your comp?

[cobalt rapids]

bumps it up to around 70%

[tight jetty]

so i replace hindy with shima and implac with haku? vanguard seems squishy that way tho

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[atomic abyss]

hindy isnt even that tanky

[cobalt rapids]

needs at least smth tanky

[tight jetty]

i added her for a bit more damage lol

[atomic abyss]

and shima has more damage

[cobalt rapids]

do u have mogador

[tight jetty]

so shima would use rainbow magnetic torp and 2 rainbow torp auxes?

[cobalt rapids]

u can run mog kaza helena

[tight jetty]

will try

[cobalt rapids]

2x ur best survival auxes on ur mog

[undone siren]

If a ship in the dorm is not recieving XP due to needing a LB/awakening or being lvl 125, is it still taking away XP from the other ships or nah?

[forest palm]

from other ships? no, but it is just a flat waste of XP

[cobalt rapids]

they still eat the food

[tight jetty]

in this order from left to right?

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[undone siren]

I was of the belief that having a ship there reduces the XP received by others, but then gains itself, so you still get more XP/h across them all, and make the most out of your food
Was wondering if it being capped and receiving +0XP still did the same, or if it was a little smarter than that

[tight jetty]

any changes to moga and helena gear? (dont mind shima lol)

[tropic tusk]

can u oath little ships?

can u oath anyship that u own

[atomic abyss]

yes

[tropic tusk]

so as long as u own it u can oath it

good to know thx

[tight jetty]

if only im rich enough

[soft dagger]

helena use twin152 gun, replace sg radar with hp aux, if you have twin 134 aa gun put it on helena and mogador

[tropic tusk]

im just curious im poor

[tight jetty]

update: frontline died before my backline can barely launch the final airstrike

[soft dagger]

replacing mog with tank will reduce the kill rate, but survival-wise it's better

[tight jetty]

also which twin152 lol

[cobalt rapids]

helena should use manjuu

also kazagumo over shima

[soft dagger]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(6"/47_Mk_17_DP_Prototype)#Type_0-0

[tight jetty]

wdym

[soft dagger]

replace shimakaze with kazagumo

and i think you need to re-calc your cv

[tight jetty]

will this shima do

[undone siren]

Finishing the last Dev30/FS5 of a PR season adds of those ships back into the pool for research right, so it'd be best to keep one ship at Dev29/FS4 to avoid this?

[atomic abyss]

no lmao

[soft dagger]

what's the difference?

[tight jetty]

isnt it the other way round

[atomic abyss]

at that point you'd just do rigging

[undone siren]

?

[half plover]

do you mean that if you finished everything you can still get prints to protocore exchange them?

[tight jetty]

oh no difference at all, just asking if her gear is ok

[undone siren]

No, I mean what I said
If I finish the whole PR season, do they all come back into the pool of research, polluting my pool

[soft dagger]

it's ok, but you said your vanguard is dead. so umi no neko suggesting a different set

[inner delta]

polluting your pool like what, they all just come back like how it used to since each dev 30 you finish remove them until you finish them all

[undone siren]

That is exactly what I'm asking

[inner delta]

you aren't gonna magically get all Qs

[undone siren]

Jesus, nevermind

[half plover]

I feel like that was a bit rude

[inner delta]

huh?

[tame jungle]

What

[half plover]

but yeah I understand that, some can assume you also get basics, t research q etc. just no face researches

so that is a valid question

[inner delta]

im what? im not saying it's not a valid question?

[atomic abyss]

yes they all come back, but it shouldnt matter if they do though

[half plover]

I'm not gonna blame you but that wording could feel offensive "magically get all Qs" sounds like you assumed the question asker thought and wanted that and you think a bit stupid of that

it is just me maybe

[inner delta]

im not assuming anything im just answering based on what asked "No, I mean what I said
If I finish the whole PR season, do they all come back into the pool of research, polluting my pool"

[undone siren]

If they all come back, would that not decrease the chances of other PR faces (for the ones that are not bound to the PR I'm focusing) and reduce the chance of finding non-face research in general

[atomic abyss]

no, thats not how it works

[inner delta]

the chance is the same

as it was before

[atomic abyss]

chance of getting any face research remains unchnged

[inner delta]

they are just adding back any face that was taken away when you dev 30 them making the ship not dev 30 appear instead

[undone siren]

What character is in said face would be more spread out though, right?

[tight jetty]

dumb question, wouldnt replacing kazagumo with shima render running full cv backline pointless?

[inner delta]

yes, but you are gonna just hold them until they add Fs anyway

[undone siren]

We got there in the end
Thanks

[jaunty vault]

it would make the fleet less efficient but as long as the full CV fleet is good, i wouldn't call it pointless

[atomic abyss]

you did readjust your carriers to sync with mog, right?

[tight jetty]

ok what

[atomic abyss]

^

[tight jetty]

😅 i forgot to read mog's skills

[plain saffron]

sync 3rd CV launch with mog stab

[atomic abyss]

your carrier airstrike timings shd be around 22.6s

[tight jetty]

ah i see why i have to sync with mog lol

[plain saffron]

well you only need to sync the 3rd one, bcs 1 and 2 can hit boss without stop/slow

[tight jetty]

the calculator alr accounted for the airstrike animation and only counts the impact right

[storm heron]

how does one keep mog alive

i used towel toolbox but no afail

[whole crypt]

this was fair game for mog but mine is oathed

[atomic abyss]

the calc does not account for plane travel time

hence why 22.6s

[storm heron]

don't do this to me, I have gold catas to feed

[whole crypt]

then just 🎲

[storm heron]

[whole crypt]

oneshot isn't that big a deal as long as you have reliable 75s

[inland shoal]

My Mog survives >50% and she's not oathed

[tight jetty]

was she equipped with hp auxes?

[inland shoal]

Yes

[whole crypt]

you need dual HP auxes but besides that it's basically 🎲

[tight jetty]

you can scroll up to check my mog's gear lol

[whole crypt]

preferably better than toolkit

[inland shoal]

I think this (though I don't think I have both at +13)

[whole crypt]

ditch the report for another toolkit

or if you have anything better than 500HP

[tight jetty]

my auxes aint even +13 and she can still survive lol

[whole crypt]

I'm not tempting fate

[echo compass]

Which one should I focus on limit breaking/levelling?

[atomic abyss]

what are your 2 fleets currently?

i would recommend hood, constellation, shangri la
but which one first depends on the team

[atomic abyss]

first step - drop every single rainbow besides shimakaze

you wont have the rainbow bulins

[echo compass]

Thank you!!

[atomic abyss]

show your purple ships

you will need to find replacements for the rainbows you remove

[echo compass]

Yeah, I was thinking that. I only have one right now

[keen sable]

My dds are like 10% tankier than no techers anyway.

Probably should one fleet

[atomic abyss]

mobbing fleet
hood (middle) unicorn saratoga
montpelier, laffey retro, z23

bossing fleet
constellation (middle) enterprise shangri la
helena portland shimakaze

only limit break rainbow ships if you can fully do so at one go

do use duplicates for limit breaks wherever possible (like constellation)

[echo compass]

Thanks for taking your time. I just got back into the game and didn't know what to do. This helps a lot

[tropic tusk]

is qe meta useable in anywhere?

[atomic abyss]

good gold BB with good fleet tech

stick to your rainbows

[soft raft]

typical "Good but better options exist" moment

[tropic tusk]

does meta give tech points?

[forest palm]

120 tech sure, but no visable faction tech

[plain saffron]

faction and fleet yeah

[tropic tusk]

nice thx

[nimble leaf]

I'm stuck again, now at 3-4

[tropic tusk]

how about meta nagato same thing?

[novel solstice]

That early in game, the most important thing is ship levels. Run the highest map you can a few times, your ships level up, then they can hit another map.

[nimble leaf]

I need it?

[tropic tusk]

no im asking for me

[keen sable]

3-4, the new 11-3

[plain saffron]

she's META afaik so yes

[nimble leaf]

Alright

[tropic tusk]

rip

[nimble leaf]

How long is the campaign?

[keen sable]

15 chapters

[nimble leaf]

Dang 😔

[nimble leaf]

What happens after i beat all the chapters?

[tropic tusk]

u will be hard stuck at 12 13 14 for a while tho

[soft raft]

nothing

[tropic tusk]

theres a really cool ship at 15-4

[nimble leaf]

Alright

[soft raft]

well 12 is more like it's the optimal place to grind

after that it gets more difficult

[nimble leaf]

I'm already hard stuck in chapter 3

[tropic tusk]

how many months?

[nimble leaf]

4 days

[tropic tusk]

12 13 14 is months ur days is nothing

[nimble leaf]

Damn 💀

[atomic abyss]

assuming you followed the beginner fleet, you shouldnt be there for very long

just need some levels and limit breaks

[nimble leaf]

I did

[novel solstice]

The game has enough content to keep you busy for a while, because they want you to stick around until you like it enough to spend money 🙂

[tropic tusk]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips incase u dont have the beginner guide

[nimble leaf]

I already have it

I'm following all the guides but I'm still stuck

[tropic tusk]

just grind level abit

[atomic abyss]

let's see the fleet currently

[nimble leaf]

Ok

[nimble leaf]

Also I got a submarine for the first time

Is it useful?

[atomic abyss]

ignore submarines for now

limit break your ships

[keen sable]

You might be able to but it's unlikely you can do 3-4 without farming xp. Get used to it. ~100% of the game is farming

[soft raft]

Submarines barely do much until like W14+

[tropic tusk]

i mean u can just equip them and let them be

[undone siren]

Where does Nakhimov stand? Is she 2nd best anti-light after YTII?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[nimble leaf]

I already tried it four times

[atomic abyss]

grind 3-3 for more levels
limit brek your ships

[tame jungle]

Limit break important

[nimble leaf]

Ok

[tight jetty]

oh boy, wait until you experience chap 13 14 15

especially chap 15

[nimble leaf]

🫠🙏

[atomic abyss]

[tropic tusk]

i have been stuck in 15 for a while

[atomic abyss]

why intimidate him about w15

[tight jetty]

if ur phone cannot handle 12039182093 planes on ur screen then give up

[atomic abyss]

when he wont touch w15 for at least a year
most likely 2

[tropic tusk]

his no where near 15 anyway xD

[nimble leaf]

How many torpedo?

[atomic abyss]

torps are not frightening in the slightest

[nimble leaf]

I'm more scared of torpedoes than planes

[tight jetty]

oh and that too, not as much but can decimate ur cruisers if unproperly equipped

[atomic abyss]

anyways, no point worrying

[soft raft]

^
you have other priorities right now than fearing late campaign

[nimble leaf]

I know

[tight jetty]

anyways just dont think too much about it and (try to) enjoy the game

[nimble leaf]

Ok

[nimble leaf]

And that bomber ship? How many?

[tight jetty]

wdym bomber ship

[tropic tusk]

ur too early to care about those

get to 9 then u can start caring

[soft raft]

the suicide boats?
roughly the same as Pre W10-11 but they arent the main threat

[tight jetty]

suicide boats?

[nimble leaf]

No, I'm just asking. I'm not feeling the pressure

[nimble leaf]

Ok

[tame jungle]

doesn't matter rn, focus on what's in front of you right now

[tropic tusk]

ur going to forget them anyway its ok ask again later

[mental marlin]

should i get New Jersey, Ulrich or Shima?

[atomic abyss]

is your shinano max limit broken?

[mental marlin]

yes

[atomic abyss]

if yes, ulrich or nj are pretty much equal

so one of them

ulrich better if you're somehow still lacking ironblood tech i guess

[mental marlin]

shima not so good´?

[soft raft]

TRP DD aint really as popular as gunboat DD these days
And Shima is basically the epitome of a TRP DD

[atomic abyss]

low prio really

if you really need a good torper - ibuki exists if you lack unzen

[hollow gust]

NJ is better for you right now , she falls off when you have more URBBs , ulrich is worst then NJ but she had her gimmick which you might benefit from once a year

[mental marlin]

which gimmick

[hollow gust]

Her whole thing is being able to fire her guns twice as quick for a penalty of damage .

Unfortunately it's position locked and had a heavy penalty especially in campaign

[tropic tusk]

if fdg is good then u should get uvh for tech point

[hollow gust]

Which means NJ is just better most of the time , you can get ironblood tech points in other ways

[prime kraken]

should i change SS to anything?

[tropic tusk]

i would say 3u but there are other option

[soft raft]

Eitehr Archer/Flasher/Alba or 96/47/37

[prime kraken]

thanks

[mental marlin]

bow or sword augment for new jersey?

[hollow gust]

Just always use sword , bow is harder to use

[plain saffron]

Note that penalty dmg only when no ammo
With ammo there's not penalty but bonus dmg

[half plover]

is drake gun needed (good) for ch15?

[atomic abyss]

good but definitely not needed

[sharp halo]

which ship is a must have to clear world 13?

[half plover]

world 13 should be doable with your best fleet

but if u got eldrige retro item you can already start to build her bc she becomes really good at later campaign

[soft raft]

not specifically a singular win condition, but having AA Carries like San Diego and Cheshire (and a few more budget options) is key

[sharp halo]

i missed her event!

[cursive lark]

There is no must have, unicorn is the closest one

[hollow gust]

Eldridge is a luxury item, you really don't need her

[atomic abyss]

as opposed to specific ships - specific roles

[sharp halo]

hmm hmm, i need a sustain fleet recommendation

[soft raft]

if you need fleet help, post your dock in a thread

[atomic abyss]

like you need healers - so unicorn
aa boats - like san diego

[cursive lark]

Eldridge definitely helps though

But unfortunately

[atomic abyss]

not that much

[wind hazel]

eldridge would help more in w14 than 13

[soft raft]

and even then, W14 was beatable long before Eldirdge retro

[wind hazel]

eldridge is the solution when you accidentally scrapped hedgehog

[whole crypt]

can aquilifer's EX be lazy moded with rainbows?

[wind hazel]

somewhat, yes

need to make the vanguard survive

[sharp halo]

These are the only ships I have that is fairly levelled, possible for W13?

[keen sable]

Ancho jda and richy aren't rainbows

[whole crypt]

what's the consistency with that

nevermind I'll just do it by hand

[wind hazel]

100% if you dump rainbow backline

[rapid grail]

unikai + at least 3 good CV/Ls for 2 fleets
2 AA carries, one for each fleet
check these out and u gucci

[zenith heron]

This is a late Question, but due to her Augment, is Ibuki now considered better than Shimakaze and Drake could ever be?

[dusk maple]

No

[sharp halo]

Aighttt gonna try it out and see if i could

[rapid grail]

also eld retro is good for AA and frontliner srvival. did you get her retro item?

[fleet urchin]

should i change any of my vanguard ships with these?

[sharp halo]

no :< i missed her event

[rapid grail]

swap roon and bremmy's positions. other than that, u aight
more curious why you have a CV as flag and 2 BB/BCs I presume on off-flag

[hollow gust]

Anchor Eldridge Jeanne , haven't lost a EX after 6 tires on auto

[whole crypt]

don't have Eldridge and JdA on the account so I guess it's a pass

[fleet urchin]

Zepplein just looks safer in there

so, i have no idea

[soft raft]

[whole crypt]

Bremerton wants to be offtank
you want a BB to be flag for best suicide boat coverage
if GZ is going to be not safe she's going to be not safe flag or not flag

[rapid grail]

generic boss fleet backline comp is either 1 BB 2 CVs or 2 BBs 1 CV
and the BB is recommended as the flagship

recommend reading this to get an idea of how to order and build your fleets: https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

[fleet urchin]

thank you it will help so much, im kinda new

[fleet urchin]

aight

[rapid grail]

btw, if your fdg is not fs5, then she should be the flagship because her main barrage is based on her position
if she is, then she's fine off-flag since her Fs5 removes her position requirement for one of the strongest barrages relevant for campaign

[tame jungle]

well she's 5* so

[fleet urchin]

she has 5 stars

[soft raft]

damn she aint even D30 💀

[fleet urchin]

its curently 29

[rapid grail]

once again, the EN strikes. for what stage is this fleet for?

[fleet urchin]

im at 11-4

i cleared it fully once, so it kinda works

[wind hazel]

go clear 12-1 and start raising 2nd fleet

unless this is the 2nd fleet

then you can level new ships either way

[fleet urchin]

sadly, its my first fleet

[wind hazel]

raise unicorn

[soft raft]

wait so you're saying you're 1-fleeting without a healer?

[wind hazel]

kinda impressive you cleared 11-4 without healer

[soft raft]

Why is Hood off flag
she's currently hard whiffing half of her damage

[fleet urchin]

i did

[wind hazel]

but yes, start raising unicorn

[fleet urchin]

im thinking of developing parseval and using zepplein in second fleet

[wind hazel]

no, raise unicorn

[fleet urchin]

so, unicorn is so good

[soft raft]

Unicorn is basically not optional
best healer in the game after retrofit

[wind hazel]

yes, universally good

[soft raft]

literally zero reason to not raise her, esp when she's avaliable from day 1

[fleet urchin]

aight, i also have these cv's

[strong tartan]

she's probably the one ship you'll use throughout the entirety of the game outside of end game bosses

[soft raft]

Enty and Zuihou

[fleet urchin]

then i should use 2 cvs in my second fleet?

[soft raft]

at this point just post your full dock in a thread

[fleet urchin]

all of them

aight

[strong tartan]

In a thread next time

[soft raft]

Fleet 1: Hood/Unicorn/Graf ig Roon/Laffey or Z23/Free slot
Fleet 2: FdG/NJ/Enterprise Eugen/Laffey or Z23/Helena

[fleet urchin]

okay

thanks for help, im so new

[soft raft]

Other than the URs, other noteworthy ships that you have are Pittsburgh, Indiana, Kazagumo, Zuihou, Portland (you have to do her retrofit for rookie missions), Saratoga (mainly after retrofit), Ark Royal (after retrofit), Nelson (after retrofit), and Prinz Heinrich

[fleet urchin]

got it

if i make a 3nd fleet, i will use some of these

[soft raft]

No real need for a 3rd fleet outside of operation siren
Esp when you can only use two fleets at once in normal stages

[fleet urchin]

aight

also one more question, should i use sg radar on bb's?

[eager mulch]

no

[soft raft]

SG radar is mainly for Helena when syncing with HSFCR/AFCT on your BBs

[fleet urchin]

oh

i currently use these two on my bbs

[wind hazel]

that's great

CVs give them steam catapult

[fleet urchin]

yeah i did

about vanguard? what should i give them

[wind hazel]

cruisers you can slap rudder+toolkit

DD double toolkit or toolkit+hp aux

give this to your main fleet, especially your BB, if you don't have staag

they benefit more from it than on vanguard

z23 wants DD gun as well

🫃🏼 and i know nothing about brem's gun

[remote quarry]

Brem want's this gun if you do not have rainbow

[fleet urchin]

i use this on bbs

[remote quarry]

Brem can use this if you are new. Get from IB tech boxes

[fleet urchin]

got it

[wind hazel]

ye swap them

give the haze to the backline, let roon take the roomba

[fleet urchin]

done

[errant fog]

How efficient is it to pr grind on W13? Or is it too hard for low lvl ships to auto grind in that world?

Currently im doing the usual 12-1

[remote quarry]

I usually PR grind on 12-4. Can get away with using level 90's there

[hollow gust]

If it survives it's good

[wind hazel]

slightly more cog chips, you either bring unicorn to carry lv100 shitters or you level them to around 110

[errant fog]

Oh wait, isn't 12-4 for gold grind? Or is it good on exp gain too?

[atomic abyss]

faster than 12 if you use actually levelled ships

the issue is, as you said, you cnt use low level ships

[remote quarry]

Its good for both

[rapid grail]

indepkai or unikai + shitters for 13-1
13-4 want good AA and maybe a healer

[errant fog]

I see... but yeah, I do have max lvl ships, but I like using low lvl one to get them exp so it wont be wasted

[remote quarry]

You can do 13-4 with almost anything if you run double healers.

[cobalt rapids]

u can pr grind even in w15

[errant fog]

what's a shitters lol

[rapid grail]

w12: lvl 90+ ships
w13: lvl 100+ ships

[viscid swift]

pretty much what the name implies, shit ships

[wind hazel]

shitters are ships that are not good

[errant fog]

Lmao got it

[wind hazel]

shitters

[errant fog]

The usual fleet for pr grind. Becauss this was for W12, none is maxed too (For napoli btw)

[remote quarry]

You can also PR grind really bad or low level ships in Event D3's Get Pr Xp and event currency at the same time

[wind hazel]

idk man that lv120 looks kinda maxed

unless?

[errant fog]

Oh cuz I dont have a low lvl tanker ussr ship lol

not even the italian

[viscid swift]

Voroshilov could tank just fine

[cobalt rapids]

1. u dont need a tank for 12-1
2. u dont need to force 3 ships

[wind hazel]

swap in a shitter

[errant fog]

So I guess that fleet is good enuf for W13 grinding, right? Or should I put uni there

[errant fog]

I'll do that real quick, tq

[cobalt rapids]

with proper gear yes

[errant fog]

My ships are always with a proper gear, I like them systematic

[remote quarry]

True. gear can make even shitters punch above their weight class

[errant fog]

I have hmm... quite the unleveled italian ship

[cobalt rapids]

thats what books are for

[errant fog]

pompeo, attilio. For ruskies, tashkent, the muse ver, zara, avrora and kirov

[cobalt rapids]

tash/avrora for smth more than non tech purposes

[trim path]

what is the major threat in w14?

[cobalt rapids]

rammers, fusous, subs

[viscid swift]

suicide ships, enemy BBs

[errant fog]

oh wow I just realized avrora got that 15% dmg buff lol. Plain but that's quite alot

[viscid swift]

35%

[trim path]

is musashi used as mobber bb here?

[cobalt rapids]

35% at max lvl but yes only for vanguard and she occupies a slot there aswell

[viscid swift]

yes, esepcially if you have Aquila

[cobalt rapids]

best mob/boss bb for w14/15

[trim path]

ah. i don't, unfortunately

is uni and indep still on mob as well?

[viscid swift]

Unicorn's a given, Independence maybe

[cobalt rapids]

uni yes, indep depends what u got but shes not the first choice

[errant fog]

Wait wtf

[trim path]

hmm, i'll make a thread in a bit. would love some help putting together a mob and boss fleet

i should sort by vanguard and main, right?

[errant fog]

Im soo dumb, why is her skills maxed but not lmb lol

[remote quarry]

looks like she still needs enhancing too'

[cobalt rapids]

sounds like an easy fix

[cobalt rapids]

well u cannot finish enhancing till they are lv100

[remote quarry]

true

[errant fog]

true

[eager mulch]

sort by enhanceable
spam auto fill
sleep

[errant fog]

exp books

[cobalt rapids]

sort by enhanceable
spam auto fill
get character doesn't exist error
sleep

[trim path]

help with w14 mob and boss, thank you

[eager mulch]

[kindred kite]

does shipyard ships count towards exp, like would august help accumulate exp for friedrich?

[eager mulch]

yes

[kindred kite]

ty ty

[plain saffron]

Yes

[forest palm]

[nimble leaf]

Is admiral Graff spee good?

[hollow gust]

lol no, she sucks

[nimble leaf]

Ok

[forest palm]

tech fodder

[eager mulch]

what are the chances of getting amagi-chan from the event banner

[viscid swift]

low

[lofty zodiac]

I don't expect to put harbi this low(last month put him at 66%)

[hollow gust]

this month is really really easy

it has the useless shield

[lofty zodiac]

How to kill this anoying add faster, i think my cv fleet throw a entier airstrik in the add...

[crude fable]

Are there anything that good to use in these ships?._.

[eternal moth]

What's your CV fleet?

[crude fable]

I want to spend my gold bullin ;-;

[eternal moth]

Save them for the event IMO. Otherwise, Sandy

[hollow gust]

max a sandy

tashkent is making a comeback too, cause of nahkimov

personally dont like her design so voro >

[crude fable]

What's IMO?

[lofty zodiac]

Here my 2 fleet

[eternal moth]

IMO = in my opinion

[crude fable]

Oh but which event?._.

[tame jungle]

The event

[eternal moth]

I think Nelson needs the flag more than FdG

[crude fable]

Nahkimov is a ship right?._.

[eternal moth]

The event starting on Thursday

[hollow gust]

pr7 soviet CV

[lofty zodiac]

Fdg is not fs5, fs3 only

[hollow gust]

perfectly fine

[atomic abyss]

not worth rollling for tempestas

[eternal moth]

Get everything to 125 instead of 120, that's an extra 10% damage per ship. If you don't have Shinano or Haku maxed yet, that setup is fine

[crude fable]

This thursday?

[atomic abyss]

not worth rolling for the new event

[crude fable]

Oh... Ship in shipyard kinda hard for me cuz im new ;-;

[atomic abyss]

no UR, not worth

[sweet delta]

How do you know tenpesta ship won't be as strong as UR

[viscid swift]

call it a gut feeling of sorts

and based on how the last batch turned out

[eternal moth]

I'm just happy I'll be able to get Sao Marthino, since I missed her last year

[tropic tusk]

that is one cool looking boss

[hollow gust]

Nahkimov with Eagle is really busted , should try them in medium

[eternal moth]

Eagle, as in HMS Eagle, or Eagle Union?

[atomic abyss]

i think that's a fairly obvious answer

[forest palm]

then they say EU, and now the European Union is involved

[eternal moth]

What does she do for Nak? I'm not seeing anything stick out in her abilities

[hollow gust]

oh come on

[sharp halo]

quick question, which research is considered best and gives out more blueprints?

[hollow gust]

of course its eagle union, they are literally the best antilight comp rn

[soft raft]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[sharp halo]

thanks!

[reef flume]

Plot twist these Tempesta ships are UR-tier

[soft raft]

[reef flume]

Just joking of course

[tame jungle]

Cope goes in #al-general

[inland shoal]

Just wait and see

[forest palm]

well they're releasing with Augments so clearly they already suck

[viscid swift]

and of course they forget about Royal Fortune once again

[soft raft]

lol

[forest palm]

for anyone that wants to look at JP notes
https://azurlane.jp/news/654

[lofty zodiac]

Is this setup ok for light harbi this month?

[viscid swift]

if it syncs it should be fine

[atomic abyss]

@eager mulch are you intentionally trolling or

[eternal moth]

That looks ok as long as she's synched with your other ships

[hollow gust]

Used mostly +10 planes , and still almost two striked, if you don't include the stupid octopus ofc @eternal moth

[soft raft]

[eternal moth]

That's Guam tanking right?

[bright glen]

How's Zuihou when compared to other healers?

[eternal moth]

Not as strong as Uni, but still good

[soft raft]

Worse than Aquila/Volga as a secondary healer

[atomic abyss]

nd thus, incomparable to uni/perseus as a main healer

[forest palm]

Zuihou is just 120 tech

[eternal moth]

Oh, ok

[haughty dust]

Should I buy another white shell or save for the UR torpedo?

[atomic abyss]

the UR torp is super low prio tho

[soft raft]

extremely low prio

[eternal moth]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[sweet delta]

ultra low prio

[haughty dust]

I currently have five white shells, but they’re all equipped on characters

[eternal moth]

Do you have black shells?

[haughty dust]

I have to double check but like two I think

[eternal moth]

Generally you want to get both

So I'd get another black shell before anything else.

[haughty dust]

That’s why I currently have for reference

[errant fog]

Soo my friend just started, with all the things we have in AL now, what good ships I can advice him to try getting from shop etc

[viscid swift]

tell him to give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[haughty dust]

So based on these photos, what do you guys think?

[eternal moth]

All of these come from shops

[tropic tusk]

wht ship is that riding a horse

[eternal moth]

Penny

[tame jungle]

Pennsylvania

[tropic tusk]

is that the skin

[errant fog]

Oh neat, tq

[eternal moth]

Yeah, Keystone General

[tropic tusk]

oh looks nice

[haughty dust]

so should I get a white shell or a black shell or something else from the store or save up?

[atomic abyss]

black

[haughty dust]

k

[eternal moth]

Anyone else experience the game resetting when going to private quarters?

It happens almost every time if it's not the first thing I do

[fickle parcel]

How many more planned UR are left for this year?

[eternal moth]

At least 1 new one

[fickle parcel]

tyty

[soft raft]

Going off of previous years, one new one and a non zero chance of a UR rerun (Musashi)

[tame jungle]

should be next UR to rerun* yeah

[eternal moth]

There's a rerun that needs to be done before her event, so we'd need 2 reruns

[viscid swift]

not necessarily but it is a bit of a coin flip if Musashi get's rerunt this year

[eternal moth]

Possible, but with collab coming next month it's going to be tight

[tame jungle]

it's gonna be quite painful if they b2b musashi and new december UR lol

(or at least it can be, if you lack sushi)

[sharp halo]

what's the bonus of getting to full fate sim

[tame jungle]

it changes a skill/the skills

[atomic abyss]

+15 luck and some stats
they also get skill upgrades

[haughty dust]

based on that and the images I posted earlier. Any revisions to Op Si gear yet? I am almost able to craft another one of those SR BB main guns. I just need one more of a certain material. So hopefully soon.

[atomic abyss]

use that rainbow DD gun on laffey
thats about it really

[haughty dust]

I just need to craft the material before it and then I will still have enough resources to craft another. But I need one more of those chessboard pieces. I am at 20 of 21

Should I get a 6th white shell now next time I have enough resources now that I have 5 white and 3 black shells?

Or what should I get next time I get back up to 800 core data?

[stark quiver]

If you have all you need then sure

[haughty dust]

wdym?

[stark quiver]

A 6th shell seems low priority if you still have other stuff you need from core data shop

[haughty dust]

like what?

[sweet delta]

Scroll up

[cobalt rapids]

the stuff from medium priority here

2-3 cv timing adjust gear / 3 snorkels+3hull(if subs) / 1 missile + 1 sot4g if u use ddg

[haughty dust]

I was going to add the SY-1, but I have the SY-1A

[sweet delta]

2-3 cv timing adjust gear / 3 snorkels+3hull(if subs) / 1 missile + 1 sot4g if u use ddg

[stark quiver]

That’s one snorkel, and no hull pressure designs

[haughty dust]

which one’s the timing adjust gear? Also, then what are you suggesting to go with next? I also by the way did get Independence and she has already been retrofitted.

[haughty dust]

which one is the hull pressure design?

[tame jungle]

Check the image

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[tame jungle]

Everything is explained on this

[stark quiver]

And 5 white shells is already kinda excessive and qol, you will be fine with 3 and getting the rest of the stuff you need

[left cedar]

for a begginer 3 should be enough to cover for a long time ur needs, even in mid/late 3 should be enough
once u reach end game and wut u gona do with the huge excess of resources ... its up to u

[haughty dust]

Should I get next the SY-1 and replace the SY-1A with it on An Shan or leave what is on her?

[forest palm]

1A is just better

[haughty dust]

ok

[forest palm]

you could get 1 SY-1 if you're using more than one DDG, but the SY-1A should be all you need if you're only using a single DDG

[haughty dust]

ok and btw still cannot find on that image the timing adjust gear you mentioned. I think I found everything else though

[forest palm]

the beacon, and the manjuu

[haughty dust]

ahh ok well I only have one of each of those

[remote quarry]

Probably want 5 or 6 if you are running 4 full OpSi fleets though

[left cedar]

not exactly, it will depend on wut u are using, since CV Fleets are also a thing, and a bit easier to build

[cobalt rapids]

just swap gear

[remote quarry]

I typically use 1 in my mob fleet, 3 in my BB fleet, and 1 or 2 more in my filler/cross-fleet skill fleet

[atomic abyss]

you wont typically have more than 1 BB fleet anyways

[eager mulch]

need 3 pairs of shells for opsi, any more is just convenience

[left cedar]

i have iirc 4 BBs in my Op.Si Fleet, 8 CV/CVL

also, 3 of them are using HPFCR or AFCT

[forest palm]

ops I use 5 BBs, of which use 5x white shells, 2x AFCT, 3x HSFCR, 5x 406/50, and 5x 134

[foggy phoenix]

How do I get those?

[atomic abyss]

operation siren

[remote quarry]

play more opsi

[foggy phoenix]

Is there a guide for that? could not really get into it

[remote quarry]

There are several. One on the wiki, lots of YouTube guides

[tame jungle]

Just start

[soft raft]

Ew YT

[cobalt rapids]

clear the shiny icons above the zones
clear the stuff u want from ports

[eager mulch]

what’s the wiki opsi guide

[tame jungle]

Plus use wiki

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki operation siren

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren_Exploration
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Operation_Siren

Oct 22, 2024, 5:35 PM

[remote quarry]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren

[remote quarry]

Not all are bad. Azur Lane Meta did a pretty good OpSi guide. Its a bit old, but still mostly relevant

[eager mulch]

that’s just the wiki page

[cobalt rapids]

and i guided u to it

[remote quarry]

yes, but it tells you everything you need to know about it

[eager mulch]

it doesn’t tell me what i should be doing, just what everything is

[remote quarry]

What you should be doing, is do all the things. Everything with an icon, do that

[eager mulch]

telling people to just do opsi then info dumping the wiki page on them is a lot of info to take in and process

[remote quarry]

Well, OpSi is huge, there IS a lot to take in and process if you want to fully understand it

[tame jungle]

I mean it worked for me so

[eager mulch]

i don’t think it would work for berke

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/farming#opsi_image_guides
as said, clear maps with icons

[tame jungle]

You’re working on the assumption that this person is on berke’s level

[remote quarry]

I just googled "azur lane operation siren guide" and had 3 full pages of decent results. I would just pick some of those and give them a try if the wiki is not in a format you would prefer

[cobalt rapids]

good old OG

[remote quarry]

The bruce wayne of Azur Lane, lol

[eager mulch]

I have low expectations for people

[atomic abyss]

if you do have low expectations for people
maybe stop assuming people wont take your amagi chan jokes seriously

and i am serious

[tame jungle]

[dry ice]

Okay but have you considered that Amagi chan is actually a good ship?

[forest palm]

I'm sure #al-general has

[atomic abyss]

by what metric

[tame jungle]

Cute

[atomic abyss]

if it's cuteness - not for this channel

[dry ice]

I used Amagi chan to clear w15

[atomic abyss]

so?

there are many other ships that can do the same with the right team mates

and do a much better job

the point is

the people that come into gph asking for help will not know the difference between your "memes" and you actually being serious

so take your meme-ry to #al-general

[elfin hollow]

do I need new jersery dupes to fully limit break her

[stark quiver]

Dupes or bulins

[cobalt rapids]

or UR bulins, but pref u dont use ur UR bulins on nj

[viral sluice]

no, UR bulins will work as well

[atomic abyss]

you can use UR bulins

but you're not recommended to use UR bulins on permanent URs like NJ

[elfin hollow]

meta is meta

[rose cosmos]

Technically I should buy all the loggers in the siren exchange shop right?

[atomic abyss]

she isnt "meta" anymore tho

[stark quiver]

Not r2 ig

[cobalt rapids]

yes, siren and hidden at least

[rose cosmos]

Damn I was dumb and bought the books

[stark quiver]

That’s also a decent idea

[inland shoal]

I mean you have quite some days left

[rose cosmos]

But basically I bought everything but the loggers

[stark quiver]

Bro

[forest palm]

[tame jungle]

Lesson for next month

[inland shoal]

Also aren't the loggers just normal OpSi coins?

[tame jungle]

Voucher shop

[cobalt rapids]

im not sure if they mean voucher or port

[inland shoal]

Oh voucher shop yeah then gotta wait till next month ig

[cobalt rapids]

both have books now

[tame jungle]

Unless they’re talking meta skill books

[stark quiver]

Well at least you have some books, and like 10k coins

[cloud panther]

You guys figure out why can't we have multiple tempesta cats?

[viscid swift]

because they were only available from one event thus far where you were limited to one copy each and said event has not rerun

[cloud panther]

It's rerunning

But they pay you coins if u got em

[viscid swift]

well then the devs decided you could only get one each then, simple as that

[tame jungle]

why are you murming him, he's right

[viscid swift]

I don't think I could make things any more clear than that

[atomic abyss]

if the devs deem it as such

what do you expect us to say

[cloud panther]

Me disappointed

[atomic abyss]

be disappointed elsewhere then

[cloud panther]

Double Oscar was fun

[cobalt rapids]

u cannot use the same cat twice in the same fleet either way but yea

[cloud panther]

Mob and boss and opsi

[still nest]

Can I stop at 30k points?

[cobalt rapids]

earlier aswell

as long as u got the stuff from shops

[silk helm]

anyone have any videos of them beating EX?

[ancient ridge]

I haven’t played in like a year, how is this team? (Once I level up)

[cobalt rapids]

not limit broken / max limit broken

[sweet delta]

Tirpitz is bad even if mlb

[cobalt rapids]

u prob have better options so open a thread

[sweet delta]

So is hipper, and you may have better than montp

[cobalt rapids]

and post ur dock

[silk helm]

is alsace/airmagi/shinano jeane/eldridge/anchy okay to beat EX? I can't get past it LOLOL

[atomic abyss]

hakuryuu, shinano, amagi
anchorage, jeanne, eldrdge is the best

[silk helm]

oh okay, its says i need one BB for me

[atomic abyss]

oh right

that CV comp is auto-able

[cobalt rapids]

triple bb and helena and 🕹️

[atomic abyss]

so if it's still losing well

[silk helm]

like this?

[atomic abyss]

if rightly geared - it can even auto

i suggest you manual tho

[silk helm]

do you have a video guide? i need to see like how ppl are manual playing it

pretty sure my gear isn't good enough to auto tbh

[atomic abyss]

just dodge the bullets

nothing more to it

[sweet delta]

One BB required so this is the best auto fleet already

[silk helm]

okay yeah im not even close... i can't gvet past lvl 60

[left cedar]

w8 a litle, i know i'm super impartial here, but, she isnt bad, just not gud

[atomic abyss]

no, she is just bad lol
esp without her augment

there are purple BBs that outshine her

even blues and whites

[sweet delta]

Tee bee fair tirpitz augment is not important when it's 2 CVs anyways

[atomic abyss]

from what i remember back in the days of yore

yamashiro half kai is competitive with tirpitz

[cobalt rapids]

is ancho or eldr carrying the manjuu ?

[atomic abyss]

the bar is just so low

i did the calcs sushi - it aint cap

[sweet delta]

I didn't use the fleet

[cobalt rapids]

i cant get it to clear

[atomic abyss]

ancho

[sweet delta]

One strike?

[cobalt rapids]

i cannot onestrike without helena

[reef flume]

Chat can anybody explain me how the modifiers works? Do they work like (150×3)×140?

[cobalt rapids]

cvs can whiff coz roma moves

[sweet delta]

Either your calcs were wrong or tirpitz skill was changed

[ancient ridge]

I can switch tirpitz with brunhilde, I just like tirpitz tbh

[cobalt rapids]

brunhilde is much better

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations

check here

[sweet delta]

Oh yes Helena

[atomic abyss]

no sushi, i assure you they're accurate

at least if you actually half kai-ed her

she doesnt beat tirp but it's close

[ancient ridge]

Okay I built brunhilde, once I max out my other units I should be fine right

[cobalt rapids]

i still recommend opening a thread

coz like sushi said hipper and monti arent ideal

and use unicorn somewhere, prob replace ur 3* shinano

[atomic abyss]

even eugen isnt ideal

[cobalt rapids]

shes alr mlb so might aswell

[atomic abyss]

but she's already raised so

[vale spindle]

But did you account for augments

[atomic abyss]

sam

did you EN

[vale spindle]

yes

[atomic abyss]

i literally said in the days of yore

[reef flume]

I am afraid I didn't understand how they work

[atomic abyss]

the only edge tirp had back then was the fact that she was the best 0 ammo BB
...up till bisko came about

that page literally explains how they work

[ancient ridge]

You see… I play for the waifus.

[atomic abyss]

if you dont understand - i dont think any explanation we give will help

just ignore the nitty gritty formulas imo

[cobalt rapids]

no easy way to explain but different modifiers categories are multiplicative with each other

[atomic abyss]

and the same category are additive

[reef flume]

So it's a sum?

[sweet delta]

This isn't nikke where crits dealt less damage than normal hits. Positive buffs mean positive damage increase

[atomic abyss]

the issue comes from finding out what belongs in each category

so for example

FP% buff from QE and hyuuga are additive to EACH other

since it's a stat buff

siren hunter buff on say, monarch would be multiplicative

[reef flume]

So if I understood correctly it goes something like: 150×3+140+150?

[atomic abyss]

what even are those numbers

[flint scroll]

Can someone help me build a 11-4 and world 12 fleet