gameplay-help

[eager mulch]

i used gems to reset for eld

[stark quiver]

this guy bro, i waited, like a decent investor

[viscid swift]

Also that pretty much confirms for me merit shop is randomized on an individual basis

[stark quiver]

+3 rld right there

[eager mulch]

4 brother

[stark quiver]

am i stupid

[eager mulch]

2 BB rld, 1 cv rld, 1 dd rld

[stark quiver]

ew dd rld, doesnt exist

[viscid swift]

Way ahead

[stark quiver]

still getting rld up for me

[jaunty vault]

why are both of them at 0 exp

[stark quiver]

smh got lazy and xp booked the last part

or saved xp until cap cuz no cogs idk abt that tho

[stoic tulip]

So the event rerun is only one week, so it's a lite?

[eager mulch]

makes you wonder what his cooper's xp is

[viscid swift]

this is precisely it

[stark quiver]

great minds think alike

im way too lazy to grind the last level

[sweet delta]

Zero rld? Idk

Just tenrai haku Shinano and la9 amagi and fill the remaining 6 slots with TBs

[stark quiver]

well no cats also

[little tree]

~~ use independence for faster reload~~

[nova crane]

do i get less exp if the stage is marked "SAFE"

[sweet delta]

I feel like I saw this question today

[stark quiver]

same

[fervent hearth]

Great sigmas thinks alike

[fervent hearth]

interesting question

[eager mulch]

is this a certified dementia moment?

[nova crane]

mb i didnt see the replies

[stark quiver]

crazy

[nova crane]

hhahaha

[storm heron]

hope you are not hardstuck at 11-3

[eager mulch]

further proof of the effects of amagi-chan brainrot

[nova crane]

not even that close lol

[fervent hearth]

Brain rot? Erm what da sigma

[eager mulch]

don’t get hard stuck at 11-3

[fervent hearth]

11-4

[nova crane]

how do people get hard stuck

[stark quiver]

no clue, but apparently, the entire help of gph combined, and a self-defeatist attitude will land u there

[fervent hearth]

Lack of gear knowledge same with ships

I imagine some people slap gear on their ships and hope it works

[stark quiver]

that wasnt even it, thread after thread, and overpowered fleet + decent gearing

[fervent hearth]

You know what that sounds like

My fellow sigma 🤓☝️ that is a skill issue

[sudden sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[stark quiver]

holy off topic, lets stop the convo here

[fervent hearth]

[eternal moth]

[vagrant panther]

How do you change the ship you're providing for guild ops support?

[eternal moth]

You can only change before the very last stage; while the fight is going you can't

[vagrant panther]

I mean, for guild ops, you can loan a ship from others. How do I change the one I am putting up for loan?

[eternal moth]

Are you on the very last stage? If so you can't.

[muted ember]

which of these should I replace with Nelson penant?(this is ofc Nelson)

[eternal moth]

If you AREN'T on the last stage, click Battle Support here

[sweet delta]

If you have no better boss bb who could use the rainbow better, then replace the white shell

[vagrant panther]

Yes, I can open that. It's providing me a list of ships. Am I able to change the ship under my name?

[eternal moth]

The ships it's showing you ARE yours

[sweet delta]

I guess you are not understanding this

[eternal moth]

Just remember that it keeps the gear you have on that ship when she's chosen even if you change it later; it doesn't live update

Click one of the 2 pictures, and you can choose the ship you want to provide.

[vagrant panther]

Yes how do I get here

[eternal moth]

...

[vagrant panther]

So this is what I see. I am providing Soyuz but I want to change it to Vanguard for example.

[eternal moth]

Are you in a guild?

[vagrant panther]

Yes, that screenshot is from my guild. My IGN is Exocet

[sweet delta]

How confusing is this?

[eternal moth]

As mentioned, YOU CAN'T CHANGE SHIPS ON THE FIGHT STAGE

[vagrant panther]

Ah so if there's an active fight going on, you cannot change

Ok that was confusing. Coz we're on the Ironbottom marine defence, there's no "last stage" there

Got it, thanks.

[eager mulch]

The boss fight is the last stage

[vagrant panther]

No wonder. Ok thanks didn't know this

[kind needle]

guys, which ships in pr7 should I start to?

In order if possible so I can follow

[fluid brook]

Napoli > Nyakhimov > (PRs, up to debate)

Napoli over Nyakhimov cuz Napoli better tank than prolly Agir, (gotta confirm), and Nyakhimov doesnt have much use cuz lack of NP slow, and CVAmagi overshadowing her

So you will have more use to Napoli than Nyakhimov for now

[kind needle]

is it okay to go nyakhimov, than napoli? I don't have ships for napoli yet

[fluid brook]

Ye you can construct her first, just get the BPs of Napoli first, cuz BPs is the real grind

[fickle hollow]

idk if this is the right channel to ask but would it be better to play on bluestacks or LD player?

[fluid brook]

Up to preference, I use BlueStack but other use LD Player

[kind needle]

is it okay to skip ruppy and pr6 and go pr7?

The only PR6 I have is Kear

[soft raft]

Maybe get Shimanto first then do PR7

[fickle hollow]

thanks for ur help

[kind needle]

yeah, I'mma get shimanto due to having alr past 343 bp on her

wait, is 343 bp enough to d30 pr ship?

[fluid brook]

Yes that the exact amount for D30 a Pr ship

[kind needle]

is fatesims for pr6 up yet or no?

[fickle hollow]

Should i build Independence 1st or saratoga?

[fluid brook]

I am not very sure

[kind needle]

get indep

[stark quiver]

they are for pr6 prs only

[fickle hollow]

i got her yesterday ,ig i will build her 1st then

[fluid brook]

Agir still without FS

[kind needle]

is it okay to burn my excess agir prints? (around 6)

[fluid brook]

might wanna have some for Agir's FS

[kind needle]

aight... I'm kinda rushing my ply gun

[keen owl]

Is Napoli only good on manual?

Cause smokescreen thingy to her secondary gun

[stark quiver]

napoli pog tank

[dusk maple]

her personal smokescreen fires off at short intervals i.e it follows her

[muted ember]

is it better to use double toolboxes or 1 toolbox and 1 rudder/camo for main tank?

[sweet delta]

depends on the tank, but usually 2 toolbox for DD vs 1 rudder 1 toolbox for cruisers

[atomic abyss]

no lmao

[eternal moth]

For OpSi CV fleet, Amagi > Haku in a Shinano/Imp/X fleet?

[atomic abyss]

definitely

[blissful hamlet]

How many UR fighter I should have? Don't say as many as possible

[forest palm]

La 9 is pretty liquid like the Quad 152 where you really can't have enoug

[cobalt rapids]

more than 2

[plain saffron]

As many as possible

[blissful hamlet]

La 9 stronger than conv torps vs medium?

[cobalt rapids]

much stronger

[blissful hamlet]

IJN CV killer

[atomic abyss]

to be fair

bf109g do lose to amagi buffed saiuns on med

and hvar still beat the LA-9s on light

[split bramble]

does anyone know why it says im missing 6 ships when Im only missing this 5? I have all the meta and prio ships

[forest palm]

Retrofit?

[split bramble]

got all retro as well

maybe i need to get the game fixed

[forest palm]

Priority, and Meta ships also counts

[split bramble]

i said that i have all prio and meta

[forest palm]

Well double check

[plain saffron]

Try checking retrofit tab

[kind needle]

What LA9 do?

Is it a fighter?

[atomic abyss]

yes

best rocket fighter for med and heavy

[lone knoll]

I got new Jersey should i insta invest in her or wait for shinano pity and build shinano?

[atomic abyss]

if you cant mlb her, no point
better to invest in a ship you'll use/have limit broken like shinano

[lone knoll]

i can mlb once i end the cruise missions tho i have 3 bulins right now

even then its not wort to start raising her?

[atomic abyss]

no, never use UR bulins for the permas

unless you have way too many UR bulins

save them for limited ones

[lone knoll]

rhen how am i supposed to raise them?

[lone knoll]

okay : (

[atomic abyss]

do consider musashi is the next UR due for a rerun

with the duplicates you get from pity

[lone knoll]

damn

ok i wont raise her, musashi then maybe her

[atomic abyss]

just as a note, we did get 2 URs in last dec's UR event, and 2 in may's UR event

so always better to have a stock

and in any cases, fdg exists

[lone knoll]

this is my ur bulin situation

[lone knoll]

2 urs in 1 month???

do they shit out ur bulins on those events or what

[atomic abyss]

May's event had Alsace and Mogador

Last Dec event had Guam and Laffey 2

[lone knoll]

how are we supposed to mlb all of them

[inner delta]

you do it slowly? or just play since 2020

[atomic abyss]

^

[inner delta]

either or

[lone knoll]

ill time travel then

[atomic abyss]

which is why im telling you to save the bulins

[lone knoll]

okay I'll save for the next limited

[plain saffron]

1.25 per month by buying from spec core shop using 5k you get per month
1 per 2 month from cruise mission
0.25 per month from medal shopping
1 per UR event(including rerun)
1 from one-time UR bulin support plan

[lone knoll]

damn i was really hyped for pulling NJ shes collecting dust for a month lmao

[plain saffron]

Assuming 2 ur event per 3 months, it's 9.0 per 3 months
So like 3 per month qverage?

[lone knoll]

thats a nice pace

[lone knoll]

idk how I dont have more then i play since july only had like 7 total so far

[plain saffron]

Still not fast enough if you're new player, unless you skip raising the shop ur and permanent ur

[lone knoll]

Shop UR?

[inner delta]

double UR is not all gacha

[lone knoll]

so you can buy UR's from shops what?

[plain saffron]

Some event have 2 ur and 1 is in special shop. Like laffey and Mogador

[lone knoll]

laffey 2 was free????

wow

[plain saffron]

You had to farm but yeah essentiallly

[lone knoll]

azur lane best f2p game or what

so if we get 2 urs in the same event 1 of them usually is shop UR

[plain saffron]

100% collection rate possible as f2p

[lone knoll]

so musashi is prolly next rreun (im assuming november=?) save my bulins for her

[split bramble]

ok after reinstalled the game it worked

only missing 5

[frank pulsar]

musashi is next ur to rerun, but we have no concrete date so wait for info

[lone knoll]

when I have 8 total ur bulins I will raise new jersey then

[plain saffron]

I think just relogin is enough but welp

There will be newer BB probably at that point

[frank pulsar]

for all we know they give us 2 ur for christmas and then sushi rerun right after/before that

[lone knoll]

ok I wont then

but she still is top tier right?

[split bramble]

I say that because I did the last retrofit like 3 hours ago

[bold cove]

As i saw on 3 tier list, yes, im waiting for her too

[frank pulsar]

still best for mobbing, for bossing shes only used on heavy nowadays
but if you have no ur bb she will be amazing regardless

[bold cove]

Do i need to raise a BC (hood) to do Hard w11?

[lone knoll]

Yesterday I was crying that I have no good bb's, only indiana, she's a godsend for me, I have no UR bb's and a few bad gold ones

[inner delta]

hood is good unit

[frank pulsar]

if it require a bc then you need to raise one if you dont already have one or just use 2 backline and forgo the slot

[lone knoll]

I have 1 just to fill the slot

[frank pulsar]

i was replying to mcharris

[lone knoll]

Im focusing more on opSi im chilling on w12 so hood isnt really a priority I feel like

[frank pulsar]

hood is prio for new players

[lone knoll]

I mean im new but I dont think I should build her right now, nagato meta takes priority I think, unless you think otherwise

[bold cove]

Yeah i got izumo, nagato meta, richi... But for the BC, only Hood is SR

[frank pulsar]

new players should stay away from meta ships
even if youre able to get the limit break mats for max limit break youd still need to farm opsi for a while before shes max enhanced
using hood or nelson would be much faster (and probably better)

[lone knoll]

I think nagato outperforms nelson retro but youre right, nelson is less investment

Raising nagato skills takes a while but i do have her at mlb

dont have sr bulins too so

[frank pulsar]

you don't need nelson retro or hood if you already have better options (in your case indiana)
theyre just accessible and good bb for new players

[lone knoll]

the thing is I ONLY have indiana

I want a good 2nd bb

[frank pulsar]

yr fdg is almost ready just keep coining her

[lone knoll]

oh yeah I forgor

new jersey cross barrage seems op in OpSi

[frank pulsar]

it isnt

[lone knoll]

rip

[bold cove]

I need 1 more cvl beside Unicorn, any recommend? I got zuihou, shouhou and few white ships

[inner delta]

independence

[frank pulsar]

indep good, zuihou also good

[bold cove]

Okay, ill buy her

Already using core data to buy shell, 2 each

[lone knoll]

I bought 3 whites 2 blacks before indep

[sharp socket]

what do i do when i inevitably run out of cola to feed my ships in dorm, do i have to buy food once in a while by then

[atomic abyss]

dont feed them at all if you're running out of oil

[plain saffron]

Buy food in medal shop

[brisk cedar]

What would be tech fleet priority for vanguard ships ?

[atomic abyss]

CA/CB evasion first, then all the various FP

[brisk cedar]

Ok Ty

[harsh radish]

where do i get this?

[atomic abyss]

event limited

[storm heron]

it's on the En anniversary

[atomic abyss]

cant get it currently

[harsh radish]

damn

[storm heron]

me when miss musashi

[harsh radish]

welp i guess thats on hold then

[lone knoll]

is 50 days enough to max out nagato meta skills ? I just started leveling them

what happens if her season ends and I dont have her max skills?

[tame jungle]

Skill leveling can be done after the showdown period ends

[lone knoll]

thank god, thank you

would you say it takes more than 1 month ?

[tame jungle]

Only the sync rewards are limited to the showdown time period

[lone knoll]

this is nice to know

[tame jungle]

It doesn’t take all that long if you put them in your opsi mob fleet

[lone knoll]

oh i need to put them on opsi fleet damn, shes only level 70

I will try anyway then

[tame jungle]

There’s a bunch of missions that give meta skill xp and part of those are defeat opsi fleets

[lone knoll]

like 1 month ?

[tame jungle]

Probably less

[lone knoll]

thank you I will include her at level 70 then, must be fine Im assuming, she has good hp

[shell willow]

i didnt play a lot and just got all her skills maxed yesterday, it depends on how much u play

[lone knoll]

prob better than belorussia

[lone knoll]

I mostly just consume the ap from OpSi and spam 12-1 when I have 888 oil

idk what else to do

[shell willow]

there are also skill books you can buy from opsi currency to speed it up a little

[lone knoll]

I bought them yeah it helps, 5 levels in 1 go

I really like opSi so prob it will take 1 month or so to raise nagato, thank you once again

[south bear]

How is Washington looking with her new exclusive equipment? The description sounds pretty good

[atomic abyss]

an upgrade, but not good enough

it's simply too conditional - moreso than nelson's barrage proc buff

[south bear]

Fair. Farming Eagle Union MF priority exp, with her in my fleet, and was wondering if i should use her beyond getting her to 125

[hollow gust]

Its polishing a turd , she is now only the 3rd worst SR BB

[atomic abyss]

getting her past 120 is already super eyebrow raising

[fiery pelican]

Who to MLB next? and how to get rid of oil real fast? Can't do comission

[atomic abyss]

i wouldnt call her 3rd worst but it aint enough to make her strong thats for sure

[south bear]

on a old account its just another ship

[sharp socket]

farm 12-4 alot

[fiery pelican]

okay, thx

[atomic abyss]

with the high efficiency plans

next to mlb should be vanguard

[fiery pelican]

do the game lower the difficulty if I already 3* the stage?

[crimson glacier]

no

[atomic abyss]

nothing to do with 3*
but it will with lower threat level

[crimson glacier]

beating the boss after clear makes it easier

[sharp socket]

bzwei soyuz and alsace are in there already

[south bear]

The more you comlete a level the lower the threat level, reducing the difficulty

[sharp socket]

is 3 good BB not better than vanny + 2 good BB

[fiery pelican]

ah, i'm planning to farm for research ship, i dont think these weak ships can handle 12-4

[atomic abyss]

they can handle 12-1

[fiery pelican]

will try

[atomic abyss]

the only alternative is laff2

and also, alsc sucks in CM

[sharp socket]

laff2 has alot of uses

such as w14/15

[fiery pelican]

Is there any good ship that I should prioritize on using? *trying to farm iris libre exp

[atomic abyss]

brennus has great lv 120 tech
jeanne good ship

[opaque gate]

shinano amagi cv hakuryu good for w13?

[sharp socket]

if havent done w15 yet and wants to do so, laff2 will be helpful to that

[atomic abyss]

for boss? sure

[opaque gate]

is suicide boats a problem there?

[atomic abyss]

non existent

[opaque gate]

thabnks

[hollow gust]

Full CV 13-4 is meh asf

Don’t think that even clears hardmode

[atomic abyss]

it doesnt for hard

you need a BB

[south bear]

Does the old W13 guide work for W13 Hardmode, teambuilding wise?

[atomic abyss]

no

[crimson glacier]

doubt

[opaque gate]

between amagi cv hakuryu and shjnano, who should i switch for izumo/nagato?

[hollow gust]

Why Izumo or Nagato

[sharp socket]

TB intercepts are pretty bad right

[crimson glacier]

for campaign? or why switch anyone?

[opaque gate]

cuz i thought full cv bad there

[south bear]

Is there a specfic guide for hardmode?

[atomic abyss]

better 3 UR CV than using a bad BB

[hollow gust]

Intercept is not a reason to have a BB

[atomic abyss]

not really
i guess you could refer to w15 guides if anything

[sharp socket]

im asking my question for myself

[hollow gust]

Taihou has extremely high aa values, you need fp damage to supplement your CVs,and not to mention BBs are a natural stagger that delete all the support ships

3 good CVs can still be coin flip in w13, especially when they can’t take out support ships fast enough

[hollow gust]

Also what’s a bad BB , Nelson Kai is perfectly applicable

[atomic abyss]

nagato, which was the example he gave

[hollow gust]

Honestly still will take her over 3 UR Sakura CVS

She speeds up your Sakura CVs, and with a fast gun is still capable of killing those aa and command boats

[fiery pelican]

Well I think 12-4 will be hard for these weak ships

Submarines do big work or just a decoration? Never seen them in action

[hollow gust]

What ships are weak

[whole crypt]

I don't know what you're using but as I always say if 12-4 is a problem do 12-1

[hollow gust]

Also 3 good subs basically makeup a good backline

[fiery pelican]

I meant they can handle it pretty easily

or maybe not xD\

[hollow gust]

Wut?

[fiery pelican]

Ahh I forgot to set my boss fleet to do boss

[hollow gust]

They were talking about three Sakura UR CV for w13-4

[fiery pelican]

I was talking about farming 12-4

[tame jungle]

yea but we weren't

[hollow gust]

Oh ur frontline , was so confused

[fiery pelican]

I wasnt replying to you guys..

but okay

I thought they wont do well in 12-4, is it much better to farm higher stage or not worth it?

I already cleared 13-4 too

[hollow gust]

Just do 12-4

[fiery pelican]

ok

It's okay to retire every rare ships?

[hollow gust]

No?there are alot of good tech

[fiery pelican]

No space

I'm trying not to spend too many gems on dock space but I only have 20 space atm, can't even farm at peace

[tame jungle]

no such thing as too many gems on dockspace

... up to a point

[hollow gust]

You don’t really get a choice on what to spend gems on if you aren’t whaling

[fiery pelican]

Just bought another 20 spaces...

[hollow gust]

It’s dock space or nothing after dorm

[crimson grove]

That won't fully work out will it?
Don't we enter into suicide boat hell in there?

[fiery pelican]

Was planning to buy a skin but I felt I don't really buy them at the end

[hollow gust]

[plain saffron]

W13 doesn't have them

[crimson grove]

[fiery pelican]

What's are the general preferences for w14? Just bring as many UR as you can? 😆

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?tab=t.0 this works?

[hollow gust]

Copying a w15 fleet works yes

[fiery pelican]

I don't have Perseus, Ryuuhou is okay for 2nd healer?

[sharp socket]

do you have a zuihou

[fiery pelican]

Sadly no

I think I ignored her event

[storm heron]

depends on your fleet but ryuuhou heals is not on the level of perseus'

[crimson glacier]

not as main healer but as secondary healer ryuuhou probably is better than perseus

[storm heron]

yea I am confused too, putting unicorn and perseus in the same fleet would be a bad idea on auto

[wary timber]

is the STAAG better on the Anshan and Chang Chun than the quad bofors

[atomic abyss]

absolutely not

[storm heron]

isn't +15 fp good?

[atomic abyss]

if you dont need AA at all, the twin 134 (regular) is best for them

[atomic abyss]

pray tell, what FP does the STAAG have?

[storm heron]

I mean isn't the +15 aa fp the best for them?

[atomic abyss]

that is the twin 134

[wary timber]

i have planes to deal with tho. and the DDGs dont have great aa to begin with

[sharp socket]

what is that UI from

[crimson glacier]

if DDGs dont even have good AA then whats the harm in giving them 134

[atomic abyss]

lars' db

[wary timber]

only reason is i dont have those. only a few spare roombas

[atomic abyss]

then throw the roombas

or quad bofors even

[wary timber]

i see

[keen mural]

Hi, I'm new to the game, been playing for about 10 days and I was wondering if I should invest in the academy buildings at all or if it's better doing that later on? since gold is not that easy to get

[atomic abyss]

you should invest in them as the gains from doing so are huge

you should not be using gold for builds, after all

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

you may also want to read this

[keen mural]

Ok thanks, I will.

[shell willow]

does this shop not reset? i dont remember if i bought those boxes this month

[wary timber]

Good temp setup for FDG ? I need to get her a better main gun

[atomic abyss]

good enough really
only thing to work on is the purple fcr

[quartz jungle]

You need to get a black/white shell first

[wary timber]

i took the white shell from Howe since im shelving her for now

[daring osprey]

Im kinda f2p aside spending 8 bucks once on trade license, how many gems shld i invest in dock space?

[sleek spade]

when will kronstadt be added to perma pool?

[tame jungle]

🔮

[sleek spade]

[left cedar]

Yo, wut is the SSs in Fishpack ?
Flasher, and who more ?

[shell willow]

albacore and archerfish

[wanton dawn]

ive got Monarch, FDG, Gascogne, Drake, maxed Anchorage, Agir, so what should i get next? im on tw server so we are only up to research6 and we can only coin until research3. Thank you:)

[left cedar]

who is the flag
Archer ? Flasher ?

[shell willow]

im not sure

[tame jungle]

I think flasher

[forest palm]

Albacore

[wind hazel]

do the rest of PR4

[wanton dawn]

why not grind for those in higher prs if i cannot coin for either? thanks

[wind hazel]

because of limited blueprints

you're still doing academy research on PR4, i assume?

which you should, especially if you guys haven't gotten the coin enhance patch yet

so even if you develop ships from PR5 or 6 you won't be getting their blueprints, so it's useless in the end

[late flame]

also, tenrai prints is PR4

[wanton dawn]

yea im grinding for agir prints

[wanton dawn]

ohhh icic tyty

since i have shinano ill prob go for Hakuryuu then

[broken pivot]

just got nakhimov today, what bombers do i go for

[viscid swift]

on single target assuming same enhance level

Fighters(Light): HVAR > La-9 > Bf-109G > Tigercat/Flapjack/Sea Hornet

Fighters(Medium): La-9 > Bf-109G > HVAR > Tigercat/Flapjack/Sea Hornet

Fighters(Heavy): La-9 > Tigercat/Flapjack/Sea Hornet Dive

Dive Bombers(Light and Medium): Skyraider > Tenrai > Helldiver

Dive Bombers(Heavy): Tenrai > Helldiver

TBs(All armor types): Saiun/Ju-87d/Ryuusei/Vit-2(mode change)

Flex Slots(Light): Skyraider > HVAR > La-9 > Bf-109G

Flex Slots(Medium): La-9 > Skyraider > Bf-109G > Saiun/Ju-87d/Ryuusei/Vit-2(mode change)

Flex Slot(Heavy): Saiun/Ju-87d/Ryuusei/Vit-2(mode change) > Tenrai > La-9 > Helldiver

[broken pivot]

what do flex slots mean again?

[late flame]

flexible slot

[keen sable]

They swing multiple ways

[broken pivot]

[wind hazel]

the aircraft slot

[broken pivot]

ik theyre aircraft, i just dont know why theyre flexible

[late flame]

i.e. not restricted on what plane can be placed on that slot

[hollow gust]

Where is the German rocket smh, also you repeated the word dive

[broken pivot]

hmmmmm

[viscid swift]

Fw-190 A5 I decided was not worth including, too niche

[hollow gust]

[eager mulch]

[keen sable]

Because they can use any plane. Like Chen Hai can use anything that exists. The plane isn't flexible. The ship is.

[half plover]

bf109g > flapjack? wow

so there is no reason to run flapjacks at all?

[forest palm]

AA

[half plover]

ah

[forest palm]

planes like the BFG, A6, and HVAR have no passive intercept, so as you would imagine, not a good idea to always run

[half plover]

ah yeah that makes sense

[jaunty vault]

more like entirety of campaign and all mob fights

cheeky did say single target fights but EN cannot read

[forest palm]

if passive intercept can help concealment in a boss fight

[zenith heron]

Flapjacks are general use due to AA intetcept, those without are usually used on bosses.

Some actually run BF 109g "sometimes" as long as they have a Torp bomber that can intetcept, like your typical Wyvern / Spearfish

[forest palm]

does Spearfish have passive intercept

[sturdy tapir]

Uhh question.

Can i know fastest guidance about gear? I kinda confused with gear section n stucked in 13-1. Too much plane

[wind hazel]

sam's gear guide is good place to start

[viscid swift]

no

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[forest palm]

as I thought

[viscid swift]

note I said single target

the 2nd part is a bit wip but
For Campaign
Fighter: Flapjack >= Tigercat/Sea Hornet > Hellcat >= F4u Corsair

Dive Bomber: Tenrai > Helldiver

Torpedo Bomber: Wyvern ~= Spearfish > Breguet > Barracudda

[sturdy tapir]

Still confused me actually, maybe i kinda dizzy when i see too much code n numbee

[wind hazel]

open a thread, post fleet and gear

[zenith heron]

Checked it, so its actually meh than the superior Wyvern for intercept 🤦

[hollow gust]

Huh wtf nahk can compete with Yorky in light

[eager mulch]

nyak strong idk what you expected

6 fighters, high eff, strong skills

[onyx crystal]

Um

Anyone knows how to fix this?

[wind hazel]

restart game/wifi/reinstall/try another emulator

[hollow gust]

Whelp light harby is now trivial too

[balmy skiff]

if i mlbed cvmagi,who's next?
uvh,laff2,unzen or mog

[soft raft]

What other URs do you have?

[hollow gust]

Who do you have

It will prob be Laffey though

[soft raft]

Otherwise I'm tempted to say Laff2 == Unzen > Mog > UvH

[quasi horizon]

[hollow gust]

Damn heavy harby doesn't have enough hp for me to test stuff

[soft raft]

Copium that this means we'll get new arbiters added to the rotation

[quasi horizon]

In early game do I need to worry bout gearing ?

[spice pendant]

any good early stage for farming ships level up to 70?

[soft raft]

If this is pre W9, the highest stage you can do

[quasi horizon]

[spice pendant]

too weak for it i W4 only

[soft raft]

Then just keep farming W4

[eager mulch]

what fleet are you even using

[spice pendant]

common ships this for collection and free gems

[eager mulch]

5-1 is only lv 48

what do you need free gems this early for

[quasi horizon]

I am using this

[spice pendant]

dorm

[wind hazel]

I suggest you to ignore those, build your main fleet before you start side questing

[spice pendant]

or tactical training slot

[eager mulch]

just use a normal fleet and get the free gems later

[atomic abyss]

you get 250 gems for every full chapter you clear

[soft raft]

Don't
I spent for one like a idiot and it's barely worth it

[atomic abyss]

which is way more than whatever you can scrape together from collection bands now

[spice pendant]

i spent for 1 slot in the dorm and 1 for the tactical training

[atomic abyss]

as someone with all 4 tactical training slots

i dont even use 3 that often

[quasi horizon]

I have only completed chapter 1 and 2 full. And trying to push stages

[atomic abyss]

let alone the 4th one

[eager mulch]

~~ I use my third slot more than my first slot~~

[spice pendant]

i need to wait alot cuz no oil left

[atomic abyss]

the prio for a new player is pushing maps - since not doing so can gate your progress in other areas

collection can be done later when you have the time

[hollow gust]

I had to take a catapult from each CV and use +10 gear on kearsarge , even then it was almost a 2 strike

[eager mulch]

first priority for a new player should be pushing for oil cap

[spice pendant]

oh really well rip oil

i have been trying to level up ship collection

[eager mulch]

you shouldn’t do that until oil cap

[spice pendant]

yea but ship level 1 on stage 9 is goona die fast no?

[viscid swift]

that's why you use XP packs to boost them up a bit first

[spice pendant]

XP what pack

[quasi horizon]

XP pack?

[spice pendant]

3000? dam that's alot

[wind hazel]

3000 hoarder

[eager mulch]

3000 is the max

[wind hazel]

the max is a lot

[plain saffron]

need higher

[spice pendant]

i have playing for the past month and i level 58 i think something wrong

[wind hazel]

yes, you went side questing

[eager mulch]

we’ve heard of hard stuck 11-3 get ready for hard stuck W4

[plain saffron]

but is it worse than hard stuck because no gear and no gear because stuck

[spice pendant]

so i should try pushing worlds until i can't?

[atomic abyss]

the prio is to push content till at least w9

ideally w12

[hollow gust]

Is voro torp damage heavy or gun?

[left cedar]

Russian CL ?
pretty sure its gun

[bold cove]

12-4?

[atomic abyss]

at least 12-1

[hollow gust]

Was considering another oxytorp

[bold cove]

Im chilling at 12-1, grinding for fdg dev

[left cedar]

Gun based, her hole first skill is FP Based

[bold cove]

Should i push to 12-4?

[hollow gust]

Also wtf

[left cedar]

seens like i type it wrong

[atomic abyss]

if you need more coins sure

[atomic abyss]

sorry for ping

but if its light, wouldnt tash do better than voro dps wise

[left cedar]

but voro have slow to Neko do rot

[bold cove]

Let say ill wait after rerun, keep the oil to farm for event

[atomic abyss]

tash also has slow

[hollow gust]

Tash slow sucks balls

[bold cove]

Still stop at 30k event points right?

[atomic abyss]

but tash has more damage
and has full uptime on singular targets

[hollow gust]

So?

[left cedar]

well, i'm bad once its about DDs, so i'm not going to make a take here

[atomic abyss]

i.e, wouldnt tash be better than voro as a slower for nakh proc if enemy is light armour?

[hollow gust]

Tashkent slow is intermittent, and only last 50 seconds

[atomic abyss]

did you miss her augment by any chance

the one that doubles her fairy time

[left cedar]

so 100 seconds, wut is 1:40, wut is more than u need

[atomic abyss]

At the start of the battle: increases this ship's FP by 10.0% and spawns Snezhinka, a summon which fights for 50s and lowers the Speed of enemies hit by it (its DMG dealt and active duration is based on the skill's level.) Additionally, when this ship sinks an enemy: increases this ship's FP by 2.0% (can be stacked up to 5 times.)

Increases the Main Gun efficiency of all Northern Parliament DDs in your fleet by 4.0% (10.0%) and increases their ACC by 5.0% (15.0%). When Snezhinka is summoned via the skill The Blue Cruiser: doubles its active duration and the power of its barrages, and increases this ship's Evasion Rate by 4.0% while the summon is active.

[eager mulch]

the 10 minute monthly battle

[atomic abyss]

i mean that's fair for CM

[hollow gust]

Hmm

[atomic abyss]

i am quite confident she'll outdps voro on light

[left cedar]

but is Arbiter fight

[eager mulch]

[atomic abyss]

as for med, idk

[left cedar]

med Soyuz it will be one thing i think

[hollow gust]

I'll put that under consideration , even still vanguard damage means nothing

[left cedar]

Hindy:

[hollow gust]

Hindenburg has no rights to anything , she got powercreeped in less then 3 months

[left cedar]

she still hits hard asf

[hollow gust]

Sure , she can have fun in my mob fleet

[left cedar]

on same lvl as Gold BBs maybe a fleet focused on her make it even higher

[eager mulch]

someone hasn’t done the secret hamburger shell skin Hindenburg tech yet and it shows

[south sequoia]

I wouldn't really consider unzen as hinden powercreep

I'd say they are more equals

[atomic abyss]

yep, that is a major factor

[south sequoia]

If anything just run both

[atomic abyss]

and i've done le funni on med

[hollow gust]

Funny thing , I actually do have her hamburger shell

[south sequoia]

Unzen and Hindenburg both have enough bulk and deal a lot of damage together that it doesnt really matter in the end

[eager mulch]

I feel like I see way more meta comps using unzen than burg

[atomic abyss]

Do consider that she counts for shinano

And now she gets buffed by amagi

[wind hazel]

when was the last time hindenburg was meta anyway

[viscid swift]

Kirov I think

[hollow gust]

Unzen is significantly better in med and heavy , doesn't need +13 rainbow guns. And I have seen them equal damage on light . Sounds like a powercreep

[south sequoia]

Also gotta remember some of these recent fights are like... heavy armored or have heavy armored enemies that need to be taken care of

[hollow gust]

Hinden is prohibitively expensive to run , oh and she can't run a aa gun when using two CA guns

[atomic abyss]

Incidentally

How does TY compare to Hindy on light

[short wagon]

gold seafang>purlpe corsair?

[atomic abyss]

Slightly better at best
Corsair cheaper after all

[short wagon]

so in order to use i need to +10

[atomic abyss]

Do note

That corsairs can be reused for flappy jacks

[short wagon]

flappy jacks are the funny shaped ones in lab right

[atomic abyss]

Yes

X5FU Flapjack

[short wagon]

so if i cant make any x5fus yet can i use a seafang over a corsair if its not +10

[white agate]

is the difference between the triple 155 and the neptune gun that big for bbs?
i guess ap will surely shine better if many sb aligns

[soft raft]

Why the if it's not +10 part? You get full plate refunds when you make a gear lab item

[short wagon]

no like he said its slightly better at best so i presumed its +10

[hollow gust]

Hinden is prob better , could test it but I'm not sacrificing 200 ap

[soft raft]

155 is alot more readily available than Neptune gun

I don't think Neptune gun being AP does it any more favors when it's locked behind PR1 research and doesn't shine enough to make going out of your way to buy it from protocore shop

155 is also upgradeable into the 155 Kai which is like top 5-4 CL guns and is a must for BBs in W14

[hollow gust]

It's not locked in protocore and pr1 btw , but point still stands , just use 155

[soft raft]

Oh right it's in gear lab too
But yeah, overall Neptune gun is a

[eager mulch]

more evidence of blaster living in the past

[left cedar]

gud ol times

[tropic tusk]

any of these good?

[spice pendant]

Question the level up to level 70 bundle is worth it?

[tropic tusk]

no

[wind hazel]

no, just use them as transitional if you don't have any better or as feeder

[tropic tusk]

ok thx

[stark quiver]

Yes it is best value for beginners

[tropic tusk]

theres no need to rush level 70 tbh

just chill n play

[spice pendant]

Yea only good thing i saw in that pack u get 200 xp pack tier 2

[wind hazel]

it's actually pretty nice if you are a heavy grinder, it's basically early access to oil cap maps if you can reach it

otherwise you're most likely gonna be HQ lv limited

[stark quiver]

You also get better comms

[wind hazel]

subjective since it's $$ after all, personally there are better items to spend on imo

[spice pendant]

I mean yea i guess the battle pass is better rn i level 62 took me some time

[wind hazel]

ye if you're already lv62 it is less valueable

[stark quiver]

Get the cruise pass only for the skin

[old swallow]

Question: Which of the URs should I level first atm...(Trying to clear World 10 atm) (P.S. Suggest like the best one since I only have enough UR bulins to max LB one of them)

[rose cosmos]

Bro I just realized monarch net you like 100 points alone

[tropic tusk]

dw u can complet it before timer runs out

[rose cosmos]

Wtf was I doin

[sweet delta]

Musashi is the best one for campaign , but Alsace would be the best choice overall for everywhere

[spice pendant]

Yea until u level 85 i think the pass can help a bit

[stark quiver]

What are you getting the cruise pass for?

[spice pendant]

i just asked what is worth to buy i tought maybe buying pass but i think i will say f2p

[stark quiver]

What’s worth to buy depends on what you really want

[old swallow]

Guess I'll pick Musashi since my backline is getting destroyed by suicide ships in world 10

[spice pendant]

i guess u right

[stark quiver]

The cruise pass is mostly for the skin anyways,
If you wanted the gems you’d just buy gem packs

[eager mulch]

what do I buy for more amagi-chan

[tame jungle]

amagi chan care package

[viscid swift]

10 pounds of rice

[onyx crystal]

None of them works

My cpu is low

[quiet anchor]

who are the best early-mid game vanguard tanks for mob and boss

[onyx crystal]

So any recommendations on emulator is ok

[wary timber]

yuudachi worth farming for? im leveling low level ships and im thinking if i should

[tame jungle]

not particularly

why not use books then deploy 12-1 or 12-4

[viscid swift]

Portland

[quiet anchor]

any others? or are extras unnecessary until later

[viscid swift]

mob tank the requirements are much lower so there's a much wider range of ships that can competently do the job
but Portland is pretty much gonna be your best tank for the early and mid game

[remote quarry]

London is an easily obtainable tank for early game as well.

[viscid swift]

London is not a tank of any description, she's a text book glass cannon

[atomic abyss]

quite the contrary

she is one of the frailest ships out there

london even with her retro is less than 70% of portland

and the biggest issue is that she's not even that easily obtainable

[versed sentinel]

does higher xp gain means higher affinity gain too? or is it irrelevant?

[atomic abyss]

irrelevant

affinity gain is based on the quantity of battles you do

[jaunty vault]

MVP affects affinity gain

[half plover]

is Halsey Powell from guild shop rare only obtainable through buying her?

I really get confused with the rare and limited ones bc some ocasionally are in other banners

[forest palm]

I mean she drops in 15-1...

[half plover]

oh I didn't see that, thanks

[nova halo]

a year passed and i haven't cleared w15

[half plover]

why not try it rn

[sweet delta]

Don't worry, many people played this game for 5 years before clearing it

[forest palm]

[vale spindle]

i still havent 100% 15-4 yet dw

[jaunty glade]

is there a way to filter ships on the wiki by main fleet and ironblood?

[atomic abyss]

nope

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/ships

you can use this instead tho

[jaunty glade]

ty

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/ships?nation=4&type=4%2C5%2C6%2C7%2C10%2C13%2C12%2C24

for the exact filter

[fickle comet]

I feel like my vanguard ships for boss fleet are dying too easily, are there any good ships to use while I don’t have a second healer that can atl survive better on like 11-1 and above lol

[storm heron]

what did you use?

[soft raft]

You don't need a healer on boss fleet

Unless you're trying to one fleet, which in that case, you shouldn't be doing that anymore by that point

[fickle comet]

Roon yuudachi and helena atm

[soft raft]

And what's the backline?

[storm heron]

do you use 2 fleets? boss fleet's vanguard sounds too good to die even without healers

[fickle comet]

Shinano NJ and Implacable main, while I level parseval

Still managing to die on 11-1 but maybe I just need to grind more gear and level some more of them over 100

[soft raft]

Are any of those URs MLB? (IE Full stars)

Because that many URs should NOT be struggling that hard unless they've been severely gimped

[fickle comet]

I’ve only got 1 LB on them lol I only have enough to add another one to a single UR

[storm heron]

[fickle comet]

I don’t have enough to MLB all of them

[soft raft]

Christ
At this point make a thread, your fleet needs a complete makeover

[storm heron]

yeah you can't use them

your shinano and implac particularly is as good as common ships, your nj is as good as tennessee

[fickle comet]

Not struggling for damage tho, just surviving long enough

[fickle comet]

Exaggeration much

[storm heron]

woah woah

[stark quiver]

What he means is non mlb ships are ass and you don’t use them

[fickle comet]

Still better than levelling something else I won’t use long term

[storm heron]

shinano and implac literally has 4 planes

[stark quiver]

Are you using them to farm xp for levels or to pass a stage

[fickle comet]

Im only using Shinano while I was levelling her, but it’s not relevant bc I had the same issue with theseus or Albion who are mlb

I was asking for advice on vanguard survivability bc that’s the problem

[storm heron]

because you fail to sink the enemies before they sink your vanguard

[stark quiver]

Your back line probably aren’t doing enough damage, which is dragging on the fight

[fickle comet]

Again, it was the same issue with MLB SRs that should be better from what you’re saying

[stark quiver]

And you’re using only 1 fleet?

[storm heron]

smells like so given they did not answer

[stark quiver]

What level are they and what gear are they running?

[storm heron]

from what I read it is just impossible for mlb theseus to deal less damage than 1lb shinano at the same level and equipment and skill

[fickle comet]

No

[stark quiver]

Put unicorn in mob fleet

[fickle comet]

Didn’t deal less damage but it didn’t solve the fact vanguard ships are dying

[storm heron]

11-1 involves shigure and shiratsuyu, which deal lots of torp damage. They have 8 planes and 2 mgm with heavy barrage

[fickle comet]

Yeah I have my mob fleet had 0 issue

[stark quiver]

So it’s the boss fleet, what level are the vanguards and what gear are they running

[storm heron]

What level are your vanguards and what gear are they running?

[fickle comet]

They’re running whatever the best in slot I could get from boxes is so far lol mostly purple, and they’re level 100-110 atm

[stark quiver]

Are they running hp + Eva aux?

Are the back line running anti light armor gear?

[storm heron]

Do you think the roon is d25?

sus

Hopefully the roon was not 4 stars or something

[fickle comet]

I’ll probably just spend time farming better gear for the ships I have while I do development on Cheshire or agir as well

[storm heron]

[stark quiver]

You do opsi and research for gear

[fickle comet]

Yeah it’s just been slow so far lol

Do I need to get parseval to d25 or is stopping at 20 fine for now

[eager mulch]

Need fs5 for parseval

[atomic abyss]

fs5 for her
otherwise just use ark at that point

[fickle comet]

Well I’d be using her for IB xp for agir anyway

[forest palm]

August is basically useless sub 30

[storm heron]

d25 august is just your typical cv with lmao slows, can be used for levelling, but won't be useful until fatesimV

[fickle comet]

I see, it might take a while to get 30 now

[white agate]

what does her fate sim 5 do?

[soft raft]

Makes her proc chance for her freeze 100%

Which makes her alot more consistent

[white agate]

ok, it was on the wiki, i had missed the ()

[stone sluice]

You just don’t use the exp packs?

[viscid swift]

Why would I need to

[rapid grail]

donations r open

[viscid swift]

The average level of ships in my dock is easily over 70 at this point

[proper ingot]

What should be the focus for a new player in this game? I just got lvl 60, played a little siren op, and about to research Neptune

[viscid swift]

Pushing the main campaign to chapter 9 and then w12

In the process getting one good fleet leveled and once you get to w9 work should start on a 2nd fleet

[proper ingot]

I feel like I’m not strong enough although I have some cool stuff recommended on my ships

[viscid swift]

The get them to the point where they are

Get more levels on them, enhance their gear, level their skills, limit break them, etc

[proper ingot]

Okay, maybe I don’t have the right ships yet and I don’t really know the synergies, I have unicorn tho

[viscid swift]

What are you using exactly

[north forge]

I've been thinking of picking up a tablet to have as a second screen. I've been disappointed in the instability on Azur Lane on an 8th gen iPad (crashes every few hours), are there Android ones that are better in that regard? Is there a brand/chipset that's known to work particularly well with AL?

[proper ingot]

Are the meta ships good? I have Houshou hiei and kasumi, I feel like they are strong for me

[viscid swift]

Kasumi not really, Hiei is good assuming you can MLB her

And enhance her

[proper ingot]

That’s about it, I got some other sr ships too but not lvl duo yet

Lvl up*

[viscid swift]

Well you're trying to run 2 fleets when you really don't have the resources to do so and you're using a 0 LB Amagi

[proper ingot]

I don’t have the ressources to mlb her

[soft raft]

Dont use her then

[proper ingot]

Should I use something else?

[soft raft]

also that's certainly a choice raising two META ships when you probably arent in a good position to raise their skills
One of which is also pretty meh outside of being TRP stat fodder for Hard mode

[proper ingot]

They say on internet that you should have 2 fleets from account lvl 60, so I need it to get to chapter 9?

[soft raft]

Uh what exactly do you mean by "on the internet"?
Which guide were you looking at?

cuz there's plenty of guides that are heavily outdated or are just flat out incorrect

[proper ingot]

I don’t really know much about guides on internet but there’s this thing called azur Lane ECGC

That’s the only one I found, but I guess it’s quite outdated

[soft raft]

ECGC is one of the better ones (and is consistently updated) but I dont recall any mention of having 2 fleets at lvl 60 on there

[proper ingot]

They say « come back to fleet building when you unlock siren op » with the mob and boss fleet

I was guessing lvl 60 then, but I might be wrong

I’m pretty lost with everything you need to consider in this game

[soft raft]

I'd consider W9 as a more apt time to start doing a 2nd fleet
not like you can really do much of OpSi yet at lvl 60

May as well clear W9 and have acess to oil cap to make your grinding alot more efficent

[proper ingot]

What’s W9?

[soft raft]

World/Chapter 9 in the campaign

[proper ingot]

Oh okay, so I’ll stick with one fleet then. Is there any tips on what ship to use more than an other? Dual cv is good or meh?

I have Akagi and kaga, I can MLB houshou meta, I don’t really know

[soft raft]

Fleet comps arent based off of hull types, they're more around the individual ship themselves and the content you're clearing

And in your case right now, Hiei META/Unicorn/Taihou (Tho replace her with Enterprise asap) Portland/Kasumi META/Z23
And get Helena to eventually replace Kasumi META and then swap her around with Z23

[proper ingot]

I have enterprise

[soft raft]

Akaig and Kaga are both mid. heavily outdated
Houshou META is also mid

[soft raft]

Yeah I meant as in replace Taihou with Enty once you give her a few more limit breaks and lvls

[proper ingot]

Okay, I can’t find anything on new ships and what they are worth

I heard Portland was great for a starter, I have her mlb

[soft raft]

correct
She's your best tank for early-mid game, especially after retrofit

[proper ingot]

I have a hard time getting retrofit stuff

That you get in hard mode, 3 times a day seems slow to get

[soft raft]

it's your main source, so you'll just have to keep grinding
X-1 for DD prints
X-2 for CA/CL prints
X-3 for BB/BC prints
X-4 for CV/CVL prints

And gold rarity ones dont drop until after W3

[proper ingot]

Y I know that, still slow lol

Now I’ll stuff them with the best gear I have and grind C9

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
You should be reading that right now and not the fleet building guide

[proper ingot]

Will do, thanks guys

[jaunty glade]

is sandy a good unit to raise and fully retrofit? (generally speaking)

[storm heron]

yes

exception when you're broke in retro materials (coins bulins blueprints) and have higher priorities (e.g. unicorn and portland)

[spring bolt]

is ECGC seriously suggesting new players to farm DC for ib tech points?

[forest palm]

anywhere else you'd suggest?

actually curious

[spring bolt]

not farming at all, get tirptiz and use her

[storm heron]

how to get her though?

[spring bolt]

start an account in a server with bb in medal exchange

[forest palm]

so do you just not start AL if there's no server with BB on it

[storm heron]

newbs restarting because they read the guide after buying the 70 cmd pack

level 60 newbs starting over because they need tirpitz for tech points

[viscid swift]

Ignoring the fact that's RNG

[fickle comet]

I read this and thought imagine having to do that glad I have tirpitz. I do not In fact have her

[viscid swift]

Tirpitz alone isn't enough to cover the tech points needed and preferably you want more than one IB main fleet to grind XP with

[fickle comet]

I got 700 points without her anyway I’m not sure she’s worth starting over for lmao unless ur acc is like lv 50 still

[spring bolt]

the point is never about starting over, but farming war archive tho

[viscid swift]

I'm aware

My point is either way you'll need to farm DC war archives

[fickle comet]

U don’t need to get all of them from DC do u, if u get a decent amount from gacha or medals then lv120 or atl MLB

[spring bolt]

also all ib tech without wa and tirp/bis is 512, suggested by ECGC

[storm heron]

delete account and start an account when IB event

[fickle comet]

Lmao I think I played during an IB event a year or so ago so it was easy

[spring bolt]

ib event is a good enough reason to skip tirpitz and wa all together, yeah

[viscid swift]

that still requires Medal shop giving you BBs at least twice in a reasonable amount of time, which I can say as an Amagi guy is definitely not a proposition I want to bank on if the past few months are anything to go by

[storm heron]

[viscid swift]

this year Amagi has seen BBs only twice, both of them months apart

[spring bolt]

it is possible to include "suggestions about how to choose server" in a new player guide anyway

[storm heron]

Don't start playing in August

[fickle comet]

I regret stopping playing this game for a year I’m behind on the grind now and it’s a pain in the ass to catch up on PR ships as well as months of UR bulins lmao

[viscid swift]

your suggestion banks on getting BBs in the medal shop twice not once though if we're gonna go for both Bismarck and Tirpitz to get a halfway decent amount of IB tech

[storm heron]

wait didn't dd selection also has ib?

[viscid swift]

which if you take a look at Amagi's medal shop selection for this year, is not something you can necessarily count upon

[fickle comet]

I am still hoping to get tirpitz for my IB xp farming but I’ve been unlucky as well

[spring bolt]

no need to get then both, tirpitz alone is enough tho

[viscid swift]

how?

[storm heron]

yea z46 from guild and merit shop Zs

[viscid swift]

Tirpitz at MLB "only" gives 120, FDG needs 630

[spring bolt]

? tech without tirpitz and bis and wa ships are 512 suggested by ECGC, acquiring tirpitz and mlb her is 120

[viscid swift]

okay that's different then

[slow fox]

I agree with whoever agrees with Suchi.

[spring bolt]

well i think i did forget that EN only has 7 servers... while CN has like more than 40 so no lack of bb in medal shop

[storm heron]

wait what 40?

[viscid swift]

I already left the feedback in the channel

[storm heron]

like amagi, amagi 2, washington 2, enterprise?

[forest palm]

CN doesn't have to deal with the Limit Break system either

[viscid swift]

They don't

[forest palm]

I don't find the suggestion fesible, but it's something

[viscid swift]

nah much cooler than that

[slow fox]

They're just fighting WWII over there

[forest palm]

[fickle comet]

40 is crazy lmao

[soft raft]

dayum lol

[eager mulch]

what are we fighting then?

[spring bolt]

that is actually outdated and we have more now

[forest palm]

[pliant plover]

So looking at how few AA carry exist, it's better for me to +13 a third 57mm over a fourth sextuple, right?

[coarse heron]

Separate iOS and Android servers is wild

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't use more than 2 sextuples so yes

[fickle comet]

Taking phone wars to another level now

[spring bolt]

@viscid swift wait i actually forgot to remove bismark's 40 tech so it should 472... but in the chart they suggested mlb leipzig with 3 0lb konigsberg class ships and that is impossible... so if you include mlbing them it will be 472+14*3=514

[viscid swift]

yeah I got confused about what you meant at first

and I agree, not MLBing Bismarck and/or Tirptz is a bit stupid
already left the feedback with Sam

about Leipzig though, I don't know about CN but on EN you only need 9 stars total between the 3 to get her

which is doable without MLBing any of them

[spice phoenix]

can you leave the arbiter fight to heal and use mob fleet to regain resolve or are you stuck like in an abyssal node?

[soft raft]

Normal difficulty yes
And on Hard difficulty, you can leave, but the boss's HP will be fully healed when you come back

[spring bolt]

yeah you are right, my bad... misread the chart but those are cheap tech points compared to other ib ships so shouldn't be a bad idea anyway
to add to my suggestion, another reason for getting tirp over other medal ships like hood is about the aux gun
us bbs and normal bcs used dd gun so it will cause trouble in ch 10 and 11 until you overleveled the backline

[viscid swift]

the whole Hood vs Tirpitz debate is another thing entirely for me

for me, I'm not convinced the difference between the 2 is insignificant enough to me to reccomend it, not to mention early game there's a fair number of BC only slots that Hood comes in real handy with

I can understand the point about aux guns, but honestley it's something that just has never come as an issue so I don't really feel it's a particularly strong point in Tirpitz's favor

[spring bolt]

about slots issue, there are more bb slots requirements than bc...

[eager mulch]

wb wows hood vs tirp

[viscid swift]

my point is moreso that there are a lot more BBs than BCs

so there are a lot of other options than Tirpitz to fill that BB slot but a lot less BCs and more importantly good BCs to fill the BC slots

not decisive but certainly a point in Hood's favor I feel

[soft raft]

^

[viscid swift]

Hood vs Tripitz 1v1 is a Tirpitz win pretty much every time
for Randoms though tier for tier I think Hood is better

[tranquil saffron]

Is this right for nagato meta?

[viscid swift]

assuming it's geared right that is one of the best fleets

[tranquil saffron]

Is mog supposed to be the tank?

Can she be in off tank?

[vale spindle]

you can tank her for this specific fight i think

[viscid swift]

the idea with Mogador tanking is so Unzen can run more offensive auxes and so she can be dragged by Mogador so her torps land

[sudden sparrow]

Y'all, what gun works well with Sandy Diego?

Just wanna know so that I can start grinding for that gun.

[little tree]

I just got eldritch should I finish Sirius before starting eldrich

[soft raft]

budget DD gun
Works fine enough if you lack options, but isnt something you should be hard farming for

[eager mulch]

twin 100 kai

[viscid swift]

admittedly it is a rather high investment for Moagdor to get her to tank even half consistently

[forest palm]

Twin 100 → Twin 130 → Twin 114 → Twin 100 Kai

[viscid swift]

like at minimum she wants to be 125

[tranquil saffron]

What offensive auxes should I use?

[viscid swift]

2 Oxy torps of you can

[tranquil saffron]

[soft raft]

the point is to buff her TRP damage

[sudden sparrow]

Mind showing me some pics of said gun?

[viscid swift]

You can eh but, the results speak for themselves

[undone plover]

how long do the urgent "night" comms last?

[forest palm]

as long as the timer tells you

[sweet delta]

There are no forces BB slots. For hard campaign with a BB slot just use the other fleet , which is BC or CV or CVL

[undone plover]

i meant how long do they last before disappearing not how long they take

[viscid swift]

isn't it like 6 or 7 hours after they spawn

[forest palm]

there is a literal timer on how long urgent coms last

I thin it's 8 hours either way

[undone plover]

yes.... and I forgot it and was hoping someone remembers.....

[forest palm]

probably somewhere onthe wiki

[undone plover]

oh yeah it says 3 hours after daily reset thx

[tranquil saffron]

Would a +13 quad mag be better than a +10 upgraded quad mag?

[eager mulch]

yes

[left cedar]

night comms, the ones that happens every day, its 8h duration (not the comm itself, but the duration they will be there)

[spring bolt]

what? both ch 9 and 10 has double bb slots on a fleet
and if there is a bc slot, just use the other fleet?

[toxic tartan]

What specific ships do y'all recommend for the guild Operation Solomon against the siren?

[sudden sparrow]

Y'all, is the VH armor good on my Brest or should I replace it with a tool box?

[eager mulch]

rainbow unga bunga

[sudden sparrow]

"Operation Solomon"

[stoic tulip]

is the lance better than the greatsword?

[eager mulch]

vh armor is niche

and that main gun is pretty bad for brest and all cbs

[stark quiver]

Mfw plane nuke

[strong tartan]

vh is situational since heavy armor ships take more dmg from torps and ap iirc, if they're not a problem then go ahead

[sudden sparrow]

So, do I just put tool box back again?

[stark quiver]

What are you using her for

[eager mulch]

inb4 "general content"

[sudden sparrow]

Grinding and Operation Siren. Planning on using her for a 13-1 fleet once my girls are ready.

[eager mulch]

toolbox

[sudden sparrow]

Alright.

[stark quiver]

Don’t heavy armor take more damage from planes

[strong tartan]

That too

[toxic tartan]

Anybody have a website they can recommend to see what gear i should equip to ships?

[eager mulch]

ectl but it requires basic reading comprehension and dont ask questions about it here

[strong tartan]

Ectl is fine, gear is situational tho just cause a specific gear is at the top doesn't mean it's the best compared to other equip

[stark quiver]

Ectl for brainless equip

[eager mulch]

ectl so that someone wants to argue with tiering so i get to be mean to them

[spring bolt]

did they ever explained why they recommend 113/76 on sandy?

[eager mulch]

fast

[hushed delta]

does this give the +reload onto any vanguard ship? thinking of +13'ing it

[eager mulch]

thats what it says

[left cedar]

kinda if u already +12, why not +13, but its far from being a priority

[hushed delta]

okay, it's a mess of a text box, yeah it's either that or another armor plate

[soft raft]

Another armor plate?

[hushed delta]

golden hp armor plate

[eager mulch]

idc what people do with their gold plates

[hushed delta]

I have already 13'd enough bb aux items and hp items

[viscid swift]

what about catapults

[hushed delta]

my planes suck

[eager mulch]

i prefer trebuchets

[hushed delta]

what's that?

[viscid swift]

I would still much much prefer to +13 6 catapults before even considering VH plates

and you were going to +13 vanguard gear first priority would be rudders not HP items

[hushed delta]

I'm far from building a good plane fleet, I can still compete on the bb meta tho

[viscid swift]

and this has to do with what exactly

[sweet delta]

Yeah they have double BB slot on one fleet, so use Hood with the other fleet

[viscid swift]

it doesn't change the fact a +13 VH plate is next to useless, let alone 2 whereas a number of +13 catapults you'll get pretty decent mileage out of regardless even if your planes are a bit lacking right now

[left cedar]

why i laugh hard cuz of this? goddmit, gud one

[hushed delta]

ＰＶＰ

[viscid swift]

and even if you did prioritize vanguard auxes, like I said, VH plates would still be nowhere near the top of the priority list

[left cedar]

VH is really niched and rare times it will see any use, so i trully dont recomend doing it

[viscid swift]

VH plate is also not relevant in PVP, quite the opposite actually

[soft raft]

isnt the PvP meta mainly torp heavy in the vanguard so VH armor would be a active detriment there

[viscid swift]

none of the CBs are meta there, and even in PvP main fleets don't want it

[hushed delta]

they're for the main fleet gurls

[soft raft]

give them the washing machine instead if you really want to give them a survivability aux

[viscid swift]

tell me which main fleet has VH plate as a recc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BewmBsf4EWKAf_UwYax05c7ksL51y6sjs96pIwD73Jc/edit?gid=38984775#gid=38984775

[slow fox]

The second one

[eager mulch]

mebot +13 rudder or +13 vh plate

[slow fox]

rudder

[hushed delta]

xd ok I will 13 more washing machines

but it feels good when my alsace doesn't get one shot and can shoot a 2nd volley

[viscid swift]

there are plenty of other ways to make sure that doesn't happen

[hushed delta]

with a slow wep

[hushed cliff]

Hello what plane would be better for bosses i use Ägir torps to set up her Aichi but if that’s a waste of time I’ll just use diver instead

[viscid swift]

Eh

[hushed delta]

dead as soon as their soyuz and mushashi strike

[viscid swift]

so kill them first

[hushed delta]

in this meta, sure

[eager mulch]

so dont fight musashi soyuz comps 🧠

[hushed delta]

I can kill any opponent ._.

[hollow gust]

pretty sure meta comp dooesnt use the washing machine in backline these days

[viscid swift]

it doesn't

[eager mulch]

i also dont think they use washich machine against nagato meta

[hollow gust]

who tf uses survival auxes in backline for any meta

[left cedar]

isnt like attacker get a buff, so yeah, if u got gud fleet in PvP for being attacker is almost granted that u will win

[soft raft]

A majority of defense fleets are also just pure memes because defense performance means jack shit

[eager mulch]

my all child fleet to create psychological warfare

as a full team of URs steamrolls them in 10 seconds

[slow fox]

me

[hollow gust]

you play with your spreadsheet then al, you dont count

[eager mulch]

mebot is just as real as the rest of us

[cobalt rapids]

well said stage 4 amagpt-chan brainrot

[tough wadi]

How long 3x core from Hard missions gonna go?

[eager mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205650004199346276/1278022957335056497/TinyAmagiDance.gif

[cobalt rapids]

till 10/20

[uneven cave]

Imagine your defence fleet not being a skin showcase

[forest palm]

that would mean I have to care about PvP to begin with

[zenith heron]

Nah, me and my bois go full Oath Skin Showcase

[forest palm]

[blazing shale]

Which vanguard ships do Haku/Nakhimov/Sovetsky want? As well as Zwei/Alsace/Vanguard

[viscid swift]

Context

[blazing shale]

Opsi

[soft raft]

This sounds like Opsi
In which case, Tank/Kazagumo/Sirius and Tank/Helena/Ply are the bread and butter vanguards

[blazing shale]

The 3rd boss fleet is Amagi/Implac/Nano

Which has kazagumo & sirius

Zwei fleet has helena ply

[eternal moth]

I'd probably make an anti-light fleet using Aurora

So tank/DDG/Aurora could work

I'm not sure if Hindy would be better than a DDG, but she might be

[hollow gust]

Use your ARA

[blazing shale]

Should any vanguard ship here be swapped though if fleet 3 was for Haku/Nakhi?

[eternal moth]

True, Potter would probably be good there as well instead of the DDG/Hindy

[hollow gust]

That looks perfectly fine

Haku out for Amagi

Kearsarge Nahkimov Yorky , Anchorage Aurora Voroshilov/Tashkent

[blazing shale]

Scroll up a bit

That's why I was wondering because of the other fleets' vanguard ships

I'm guessing converging torps?

[hollow gust]

Amagi Nano implacable Guam Kazegumo Sirius

Kearsarge Nahkimov Yorky , Anchorage Aurora Voroshilov/Tashkent

BB fleet

[forest palm]

double CB in mob

[hollow gust]

For med you will honestly swap out the Sakura backline and run Soyuz Nahkimov Amagi

[blazing shale]

Nakhimov not dev. 30 yet
Voroshilov/Tashkent not max either except Potter, will build the ships

[hollow gust]

Medium/Light/Heavy
Just run a mix of the 3 fleets, each of them are more then capable of oneshotting harby, if you cant then use BBs/the other CV fleet to finish them off

[hollow gust]

potter is useless in that fleet 3. just run a laffey or scylla

[blazing shale]

Ah, alright

[left cedar]

i dont see a problem in same hull for mob ... generally Op.Si is 4fun mode

[forest palm]

I just find 2 CBs goofy

and then I realize Cheshire is in ther too

[blazing shale]

Which planes for uni/indep? Musashi 410mm kai

[hollow gust]

Wyverns, Flapjacks, Spearfishes etc

[left cedar]

my Op.Si is full CA, they can be slow to move, but they do they job with really fine, so if works it works

kinda, they can lack here and there ? yeah, i have sure

[forest palm]

it's not that deep

[slow fox]

doubter spotted

[blazing shale]

Then why all that yapping
Flapjacks/wyverns on both uni/indep? But shouldn't they not sync?

[left cedar]

i love to critizice CAs, but i'm the one around here that more love them...

pretty sure Indep gona be a bit faster

of course that pre load isnt in consideration here

[forest palm]

Indep, and Uni shouldn't sync even if they use the same plaens

[blazing shale]

Oh fr? I thought they'd be a couple seconds off or something

[eager mulch]

theyre far enough apart to not be an issue

[left cedar]

yeah, 1s is enough to mostly of time desync

in 1s Fighters* already dropped they bombs and TRPs are almost hitting targets

[forest palm]

pretty negligible imo, you could use a Tiger if you really offset it

[left cedar]

pretty sure indep skill dosnt count there

[forest palm]

well Indep would have to use Tiger, Uni would get to close

[viscid swift]

is everyone forgetting Independence has a 40% cooldown reduction on her first airstrike