gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

and they're not very good at it

[late flame]

eh isnt nimi = z23

[hollow gust]

Damn you don't even know what your waifu does

[lean tendon]

🤣

[storm heron]

utility is someone like AvP

[late flame]

dun mind me 🙂

[storm heron]

lol

[sweet delta]

[hollow gust]

He ment Laffey dude , he's trolling 90% of the time

[lean tendon]

I know very well laffey taffy, is a split between the stats, z23 if fp and javelin is Eva and torps

[wind hazel]

[atomic abyss]

utility is decided by skills

not stats
so clearly, you are talking out of your ass

[desert trellis]

what are the recommended gears for north carolina?

[storm heron]

huggy pilow reminds me when I only watch kimocheese

[hollow gust]

Regular bb stuff , although please don't use her , she is one of the worst bbs for a reason

[desert trellis]

erm, ye ill still use her, thx for the recommendations tho

[lean tendon]

Now that makes more sence why goose be going on like I'm trolling lol

[atomic abyss]

just so you know

[hollow gust]

Well she is shit , pre and post augment , if shes waifu so be it , but meta wise 🚮

[atomic abyss]

giving wrong advice, even if you just dont know stuff

is still considered trolling by this channel's rules.

[desert trellis]

waifu is meta

[storm heron]

yea just usual gear. I heard she is kinda good aa wise compared to other bbs, even made it to w15 tierlist at one point

[lean tendon]

Laffey 2 is meta 🤣

[storm heron]

that's not the benson class laffey

[desert trellis]

damn, from what i read shes extremely niche with her anti aa job but shes gud at it

[atomic abyss]

BBs arent even good at AA

[storm heron]

definitely not a ship worth investing but it's up to you

[desert trellis]

ah the dd that laughed at the face of the grimmer reaper itself

[atomic abyss]

and being better than most BBs, at AA
and good at nothing else, really hurts her viability

[desert trellis]

thx for ur recommendation

[storm heron]

yes yes

[inland shoal]

Some of them are surprisingly good at it. Not carry lvl ofc

[atomic abyss]

if you really want to use a BB with good AA for some reason

[lean tendon]

Doesn't her augment make her gud at tanking plane damage?

[atomic abyss]

New Jersey, or at worst, Washington from permanent options

[storm heron]

hms vanguard aa

[atomic abyss]

Vanguard, Constellation, Indiana are the better options

[lean tendon]

Well the fleet take less plane damage

[hollow gust]

Washington and NCal AA are all trolling , it's only good for plane damage reduction

[desert trellis]

ah i see, i have new jersey as my flag bb and nc as the side so no worries

[atomic abyss]

when your battle consequently drags on due to lack of damage, the additional dmg reduction is meaningless

[crimson glacier]

NC in w15 sounds like absolute dogshit

[atomic abyss]

she's not impossible to use as with any other BB - but you have to compensate massively elsewhere

[inland shoal]

Afaik it was tried cuz copium, one guy said amazing and everyone else said yikes

[atomic abyss]

yes, copium

[lean tendon]

@hollow gust hey goose, the not so new player, I needs t2 ballistic reports, where can I finds thems

[storm heron]

who's the one in the bottom right? nocal?

[atomic abyss]

it is nocal

[desert trellis]

ah, i see ur point, ima figure out the best fleet ive got for her to suit in

[atomic abyss]

you can use nocal safely in w13

just nothing beyond that

[desert trellis]

i feel like ive just spiked a dumpster fire on how shitty north carolina's in-game performance is jeez

[crimson glacier]

well she isnt good in w13

NC is pretty much one of the worst if not the worst SSR BB

[atomic abyss]

usable =/= good

[coarse heron]

Impossible, Mikasa exists

[desert trellis]

is massachusetts gud?

[lean tendon]

🤣

[sharp socket]

so after getting 3 ryusei, 2 saiun, 2 bf109 to +13 is it tenrai next

[storm heron]

so true, 115 mikasa can sink in 12-4 btw

[hollow gust]

wtf are t2 ballistics reports

[crimson glacier]

a lot of 115 ships can sink in 12-4

[atomic abyss]

most, of the older US BBs are pretty bad, massa included

[storm heron]

not other sr bbs

[crimson glacier]

im sure 115 NC could sink there if the fleet is bad enough

[lean tendon]

The yellow ones used to make flapjacks

[storm heron]

I mean it is biased since dpends on fleet

[desert trellis]

oh well... then nc it is

[sharp socket]

my current cv setup does not use ju87 so ill get to that when i need it

[crimson glacier]

ofc its biased, thats why i dont get why you said it

[lean tendon]

I need lots to makes the plapjacks

[hollow gust]

???

[storm heron]

more like have a chance to sink more than other ships

[sharp socket]

i think he means ordnance plan

[sweet delta]

Constellation and Indiana are the best golds if just USS BB/BC is what you're looking for

[storm heron]

yo the tl person is here

[hollow gust]

If it's ordinance then just play opsi

[desert trellis]

ah, thx for ur recommendation

[lean tendon]

Ordinance reports

Same thing

[desert trellis]

sadly theres not yet a rerun of indiana i think, id like to get her if shes available tho

[atomic abyss]

indiana just came out in aug so

[lean tendon]

I need more, where can I fish

[desert trellis]

mhm how about musashi?

[crimson glacier]

it will unironically take 2+ years for indiana

[sharp socket]

do opsi

[atomic abyss]

musashi is the next UR due for a rerun, when we dont know

[sharp socket]

just do every popup in opsi every day

[desert trellis]

damn, sounds like am pretty fked

[atomic abyss]

i'll be real - use the US CV/Ls
you'll get way more mileage from them rather than the US BBs

[boreal temple]

Double yamato gun meta?

[lean tendon]

I'm asking where in opsi I can look, I haven't seen a single one and I clreard the whole map

[desert trellis]

ah good idea, is amagi cv good?

[sharp socket]

clear the map more because its a rare drop

[boreal temple]

It's a random drop

[atomic abyss]

very, assuming she's at max stars

[lean tendon]

Nuuuuu🥲

[desert trellis]

better than shinano?

[atomic abyss]

Slightly better, but yes

[crimson glacier]

similar

[sharp socket]

use both together

[sweet delta]

Almost always

[storm heron]

some says shinano has more contribution when used without amagi than amagi without shinano

[desert trellis]

should i uh spend some bulins on her? or shd i wait for a musashi rerun perhaps

[lean tendon]

Sim 5 Haku good?

[sweet delta]

some sounds wrong

[atomic abyss]

just use them on amagi

[mellow plank]

anyone have a good idea what tech points to invest in for vanguard ships?

[storm heron]

I'll try finding. Nvm didnt find it

[desert trellis]

alright, amagi it is

[atomic abyss]

CB/CA eva, then all the various FP

[lean tendon]

3 wyvern is a good start yeah?

[desert trellis]

and i wanna ask how can i get tech points for the research of azuma

[sharp socket]

3 wyvern is enough wyvern

[boreal temple]

IJN ships

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Sakura_Empire-2

[desert trellis]

thx a lot

[lean tendon]

Do the big ones first

More points

[storm heron]

sowwy

[mellow plank]

shame there's like 4 ships with EVA stat points

[atomic abyss]

it is a shame yes

[lean tendon]

Hey, how do you set up a mob fleet with little to no healing needed

[mellow plank]

for DDs Torps and EVA?

[storm heron]

fp

[mellow plank]

or RLD

[atomic abyss]

DD absolutely do not want eva
nor torps
fp

[lean tendon]

The healing invert fights is. Annoying the hell out of me

[atomic abyss]

FP because the best DDs are mostly the gun based ones

[storm heron]

just do more damage

[late flame]

in other words, skill issue

[atomic abyss]

and because they lack FP to begin with, each additional FP is far more impactful

[spring bolt]

that pretty much means you mob fleet has setup issue or simply too weak. invert healing is usually ignorable

[coarse heron]

The true madman puts a Fumo on a gun based DD

[lean tendon]

@mellow plank is the dd you making Torp or fp based, cause the best gun won't do squat if they scale on Torp stat😗

[storm heron]

it's possible?

[late flame]

i did that once oh wait it was on prinz eugen

[coarse heron]

of course not

[sweet delta]

The true hacker does that

[coarse heron]

I wish it was

[crimson glacier]

i dont think DDs can even use fumo

[mellow plank]

not based on any particular DD I'm just trying to get some added stat points so I want to focus on cogging the ones that increase those stats

[storm heron]

I almost buy that until I remember fargo aux drone is the most fp you can get

[lean tendon]

Skill issue? Too much skill, no skill registered at all lmao

[mellow plank]

and what do CLs require? FP as well?

[atomic abyss]

yep
all the vanguard want FP tech, but CB/CA eva is priority

[mellow plank]

roger

[atomic abyss]

tho with CAs, trp is also a viable choice to go for if you use unzen alot

[sweet delta]

If you have no EX leaderboard aspirations then leave the trp after fp for all hull types

[lean tendon]

Ah,makes sense

Lol z23 bot broken, non of my info was off lol

[jaunty vault]

huh?

[turbid latch]

how to do combat collection the easiest way?

[jaunty vault]

get three ships that meet the requirements and grind 12-1

[lean tendon]

Can I awnser or will I get another warning

[jaunty vault]

oh you got warned kek

[atomic abyss]

If you give correct advice, you wont get warned

Simple

[turbid latch]

I can only do 8-4 as for now

[lean tendon]

And my info is accurate, go check if you don't believe it

[atomic abyss]

then you can put this on the backburner
it wont be fast at all till w12

[lean tendon]

What's your ships look like?

[jaunty vault]

if you think you've been warned unfairly, you an appeal your warns

[late flame]

facepalm.jpg

[storm heron]

woah woah

🧵

[atomic abyss]

i will advise this again

put research ships on the backburner till you reach w12

[late flame]

better to create a thread yes

[turbid latch]

ibuki combat data collection

[atomic abyss]

this is for 2 reasons

1. exp grind wont be efficient
2. you will run out of coins quickly

[jaunty vault]

thread isn't needed

[lean tendon]

Don't see a problem with the ship lvls, what's the gear look like?

[storm heron]

oof mb

[jaunty vault]

gear isn't needed

ships weren't needed

you don't need to apologise

[turbid latch]

back burner? wdym bu that

[atomic abyss]

do not focus on it

[lean tendon]

Now you trolling

[coarse heron]

Don't worry about them until W12

[atomic abyss]

do not change your ships just to grind ibuki more quickly

[jaunty vault]

yeah? ban me

[atomic abyss]

focus on building strong ships based on what you have

[storm heron]

fleet looks fine other than the non-mlb UR ships

[atomic abyss]

ignore research ships entirely for now

[lean tendon]

I was dying looking at those lol

[atomic abyss]

the priority until you reach w12 is to build good ships
not research ones

[turbid latch]

oh alright, I thought I needed ibuki ASAP because I need one more ship to complete my main boss fleet

[atomic abyss]

because you wont have the resources to even sustain research

hell, you wont even build a 2nd fleet till AFTER you reach w9

[coarse heron]

You can beat 98% of content in this game with any group of ships

[lean tendon]

Eh? What's your fleet look like now?

[late flame]

plus none of the early PR are worth the effort.
even if you whale for PR packs all it does is timeskip at the cost of real money

[lean tendon]

Chapter 13, 14 and 15 isn't 2 percent is it?

[spring bolt]

who told you to get ibuki now anyway?... she is good at late game fast farming, not that useful for new players...

[coarse heron]

It's a conservative estimate, and also Harbiter.

[atomic abyss]

on the one hand, that mob fleet looks excellent

[storm heron]

woah the boss fleet

[atomic abyss]

that boss fleet is, gonna take a long while to build

[coarse heron]

Roon is the most useful PR1 ship because

1. tank
2. IB tech points to unlock other IB PR ships that are much better

[atomic abyss]

considering you need at least 12 gold bulins

[turbid latch]

but I don't have enough gold bulins to mlb them

[storm heron]

what about telling em what fleet to level, level in 9-1, focusing on rigging analysis which doesnt need much gold

[atomic abyss]

then why raise them

[lean tendon]

Bruh

[storm heron]

I did this when I start a new account since my fleet needs a second fleet

[atomic abyss]

well, takao and watarase aside
VV and Enterprise are good things to raise, so good there

[coarse heron]

Honestly Basic Research is underrated for new players who can't afford to keep up with coin research

[late flame]

maybe someone watched a certain youtuber

[storm heron]

just do riggin analysis and comission and basic research

before w12

[lean tendon]

I do lol, the cheese man

[coarse heron]

the tech box one can be good too if you got a lot of spare ones

[late flame]

eww

[atomic abyss]

and the cheese man is considered to be one of the most unreliable sources

even by the horrible standards of youtube guides

[storm heron]

I only watch suchi and jimmy for al

[lean tendon]

Got me through ch14 lmao

[coarse heron]

I develop my own shit takes on AL instead of watching YouTubers

[turbid latch]

should I just keep on pulling rn for better ships? or wait for an event

[lean tendon]

Stream, I love watching those lol

[storm heron]

no never, cubes are limited, wait for good event

[wet badge]

Al youtubers exist?

[atomic abyss]

wait for UR events

i think you're on the right track
but slowly invest in enterprise and vv

[coarse heron]

I once tried Curlew in W13 just to see if it would work

terrible idea btw

[lean tendon]

Alway wait for events to pull, you always have a chance to pull off rate ships

[storm heron]

AA Tag probably work no?

[atomic abyss]

curlew can work in w13 easily

[storm heron]

finally something good

[coarse heron]

not when you try using her as an AA carry

[atomic abyss]

it's just that you need to compensate on the damage end

[late flame]

during non-event (otherwise known as dead weeks) just do one daily light pull

[storm heron]

yeah, "AA is snowballey, you either has too much AA or too little AA. AA not enough means your CV get concealed, you deal less interception damage, you leak more planes"

[coarse heron]

when I first started, I just ignored W13 until Sandy's event re-ran and I could retrofit her

[eternal basalt]

GuadianE

[lean tendon]

Why? I never misinform 🤣

[atomic abyss]

im just gonna say this once

[atomic abyss]

you're on a super short leash

[storm heron]

ignored w15 until Musashi event re-ran and I could have two sashis

[atomic abyss]

you got quite the history of giving wrong advice

and worse

[coarse heron]

once I get the rest of my W14 fleet up to 120 I'm finally gonna tackle 14-3

[atomic abyss]

ignoring when people try to correct you

by playing it off as "i never misinform"

[late flame]

or smooth brain or some such nonsense

[atomic abyss]

if you arent sure, just dont say anything at all

[lean tendon]

And if I am sure but you don't view it from my perspective, is it still wrong even if it's still accurate?

[south sequoia]

What

[late flame]

bro asking to be perma-banned from gph

[atomic abyss]

there are some things that are indeed a matter of perspective. yes

but there are other things that are straight up fact based

[boreal temple]

Gold from 12-4 is still better than gold from 13-1 right?

[storm heron]

yes

[boreal temple]

[atomic abyss]

and calling laffey retro as a "utility" ship is just straight up factually wrong, as an example

[coarse heron]

13-1 is higher ratio per oil spent but you need real ships for 13-1 so

[lean tendon]

Oki, I'll make sure it's factually correct, and still get warned

[south sequoia]

^ Yes like reading from actual things based off stated by the game and stats
The only things that can be argued in terms of opinions are performance of a ship/gear and etc

[storm heron]

but in the pins 13-1 lower gold per oil, that's without clear bonus which is always 150-250

[boreal temple]

I'm contemplating on whether I move my cdc to 13-1 if it had a higher coin drop

[late flame]

i also like w12 more since one can clear with rubbish fleets

• takes shorter time compared to w13

[atomic abyss]

just move to 13-4 at that point

[boreal temple]

It's cdc so I think I can have 3 decent ships instead of 6 shitters

[eternal basalt]

Apparentky better chips though

[late flame]

its kinda rng though

[atomic abyss]

In any case, if you really disagree with the warns you were given, feel free to appeal them

[storm heron]

cdc is so whatever imo, you will finish cdc sooner than tech grind

[boreal temple]

Don't remember if I have 13-4 on safe so I played it safe with 13-1

[coarse heron]

that doesn't include map coins from my understanding, just clearing mode coins

[storm heron]

sooner than bps too

[boreal temple]

Fair

[lean tendon]

Not like it'll matter anyway , none of your brains work like mine does

[wet badge]

Whats cdc

[wet jackal]

Question, if i started researching Saint Louis and wanna switch to another ship will i lose my progress on her? I just finished the first combat data and don't wanna have to redo it

[coarse heron]

combat data collection

[atomic abyss]

combat data collection

[atomic abyss]

nope, just pause

[wet badge]

O

[coarse heron]

it just pauses, you can go back any time

[late flame]

switching back does induce a 24-hour cooldown

[coarse heron]

example, my Plymouth

[boreal temple]

Do note that you need 24hrs before switching back

[atomic abyss]

Yes, most of us actually have the ability to accept the fact that we're wrong at times

[wet jackal]

thanks people

[storm heron]

wait this laffey pillow just joined yesterday

[wet badge]

Is ply mobber

[boreal temple]

Both

[late flame]

Ender is too kind ||i would have perma-banned him lol||

[atomic abyss]

So can I take it as you wont bother to change your behaviour?

[coarse heron]

Plywood is fat DPS

[lean tendon]

Doit,

[boreal temple]

Plus a hell of a mob tank

[coarse heron]

she got that 3 MGM rizz

[storm heron]

yahaha newbies detected

[atomic abyss]

Good riddance.

[south sequoia]

Your history in the channel has literally been picking fights and then thrashing out when people just give you a link that answers your questions
You also have a history of being wrong and then arguing about it further even when people have shown you that you were wrong
I'd suggest you sit down and reflect unless you want to be evicted from this channel

[wet badge]

Guys what does brest do

[inland shoal]

Yeah cuz that's how discord handles rejoins

[coarse heron]

no

[atomic abyss]

Cleo he's gone

[south sequoia]

smh you did it while I was typing that out

[boreal temple]

[plain saffron]

time to send nimi loveletter

[south sequoia]

Anyways

[atomic abyss]

Very good tank, esp for mobbing
Does lose out to Guam in plane worlds tho

[south sequoia]

back on track

[late flame]

lol

[wet badge]

Is her heal good like unicron

[atomic abyss]

No lmao

[plain saffron]

nope

[coarse heron]

one day I'll finish fate sim on Izumo

[atomic abyss]

It's a bonus heal, not a proper heal

[wet badge]

😭

[storm heron]

anyways idk about this one, maybe I have to do some tests and compare it with celerio's 12-4 coin income

[atomic abyss]

the only thing that subs for uni is percy

[wet badge]

Is agir mog guam as tank

[late flame]

breast uh i mean brest is good for mob fleet tank imo

[rapid grail]

dont let that fool u, thisguy was in gph a while back and is effectively still the same guy back then.

[atomic abyss]

exactly

well he's gone anwyays

[wet badge]

Is guam tanky with good aa

[south sequoia]

great aa

[atomic abyss]

she is one of the best at AA

[eternal basalt]

Yes

[south sequoia]

she has aa+1

so 2 aa guns

lots of boost and with the benefit of being a cb

[wet badge]

But what does agir do beside tank

[coarse heron]

bring the beats

[south sequoia]

Armor break spammer

[boreal temple]

Scuff slow

[wet badge]

Good for boss?

[south sequoia]

she has a slow... which is pretty cope, she is also very tanky

[south sequoia]

great for bosses

[coarse heron]

Agir's slow is the biggest CB cope there is

[south sequoia]

She is one of the tankiest ships in the game with a great uptime of armor break

[boreal temple]

Agir is still the go-to tank for bb fleets right? or did someone else take the crown for that

[coarse heron]

use her for everything else, not her cope slow

[late flame]

i mean, now that we have rainbow bb that does agir's (slow)* better

[plain saffron]

back in my day

[wet badge]

What abt hinden is she just pure dps

[eternal basalt]

bb replace cb??? (Oh, the slow)

[plain saffron]

any slow better than no slow

[south sequoia]

she still technically is but like unzen plymouth hinden last long enough while dealing large amounts of damage you can consider booting agir

[late flame]

as in no longer need agir for cope slow yes

[boreal temple]

I mean 2 main guns so whaddya expect

[coarse heron]

she's 3 MGM at Dev30 so yeah she's got the DPS

[wet badge]

Is drake gun better than hind gun

[late flame]

depends on what fight

[south sequoia]

oh, and agir also has napoli to worry about

[storm heron]

what did napoli do?

[crimson glacier]

tank

[late flame]

sobs in dev19 napoli

[storm heron]

like powercreep potential?

[south sequoia]

super mega chonky tank with nice damage on her own

[storm heron]

it's not like napoli won't be worried about fsV agir

[late flame]

agir fs5 next year trust

[boreal temple]

imagine if agir fs5 is just making her slow not cope anymore

[turbid latch]

any type of commission and rigging analysis?

also I've set my pr catch-up to Harbin is it okay or should I switch it w someone

[coarse heron]

turns it into a root

[crimson glacier]

why would anyone care about agir fate 5

[coarse heron]

whiochever one you can afford

[late flame]

anchorage fs5 ptsd

[storm heron]

pretty sure yes, though mind the plates cost

[eternal basalt]

Why not... have the bps for YEARS

[crimson glacier]

ok so tell me what it does

[cobalt rapids]

i use aegir for her cope slow

[boreal temple]

Who's the dd

[south sequoia]

kaza

[coarse heron]

looks like Kaza

[late flame]

kazagumo

[south sequoia]

it's her l2d skin

[storm heron]

every single question everytime kazagumo l2d is there

[boreal temple]

I probably missed that skin

[late flame]

ye

[plain saffron]

what's the skin name

[cobalt rapids]

twin 134 kazagumo

[storm heron]

lmao the +15 fp on her

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Kazagumo/Gallery#Diligent_Domestic_Discipline-0

[storm heron]

wouldn't the stagg be better?

[atomic abyss]

It would be yes

[late flame]

i was lazy to chaneg but will get around to it

[boreal temple]

Wait is that her new gun?

[storm heron]

pr7 gunidk maybe

[boreal temple]

Or is it safe to stick with the blue one

[crimson glacier]

blue is fine

[cobalt rapids]

new gun for aoa/barrage dds for rich ppl

[atomic abyss]

The single 113 can be better than the blue 76 if enemy is far away

...the biggest issue is that the 113 is pretty expensive

[plain saffron]

random question, in main menu is she facing right or left

[polar venture]

My brest is dev level 19 of 30. I've got general BP 6 (48 BP's) and 7 (75 BP's) do I have enough to MLB her if I just use series 7 BP's?

[storm heron]

wait where is that gun

[boreal temple]

I haven't gotten to playing around with bot pr6 and 7 gear cuz I died

[atomic abyss]

Gear lab

[storm heron]

I don't recall it being added

[atomic abyss]

Under royal I think?
Or eagle

It was added when mk7 was perma
Back in May

[boreal temple]

Use this screen

[polar venture]

Ohh no I don't 😦

[atomic abyss]

Speaking of Bayard

[storm heron]

I am against using future bps

[late flame]

main menu? as in dock?

[atomic abyss]

Her dps is actually pretty strong all things considered

[plain saffron]

the main screen

[atomic abyss]

Maybe CN wasnt inhaling that much copium

Needs more testing tho

[storm heron]

yes yes

[wet badge]

What 2 do w general bps

[plain saffron]

use on highest season you can

[eternal basalt]

convert them

[plain saffron]

so like season 5 general bp use on season 5, if all s5 is maxed then s4 and so on

[boreal temple]

Can this breeze w13 hard

[wet badge]

O should i focus on main fleet like nyak

[late flame]

ez

[storm heron]

idk about the hindenply

[boreal temple]

I doubted mob since it went like 60%hp before boss spawn

[cobalt rapids]

move guam sushi and aql to boss

[forest palm]

boss may get rolled by Taihou

[zenith heron]

Dominate Taihou, easy

[boreal temple]

Ah so it's the boss I should worry about

[storm heron]

13-4 only

[forest palm]

the thing is Taihou ads just eat your bombs, and BBs are able to remove ads quicker

[eternal basalt]

Shimanto is fine if geared right

[storm heron]

which w13 hard is even that

[zenith heron]

for an all rounder, yes

[boreal temple]

Like for the entire w13h

[storm heron]

wdym by this, best minmaxing advice is when we know where's ur progress

[boreal temple]

I just whipped this shit for 13-1 cuz 3x drop and it worked but I'm doubting if it can last till 13-4

[eternal basalt]

(though 125 not 120)

[boreal temple]

She's otw there I'm building her anyway for w15

[storm heron]

remove ads?

[late flame]

this?

[storm heron]

she's facing right

[wet badge]

Im lvl 95

[rose cosmos]

Type 1 shelling should be on every bb rite

[storm heron]

no like your PR progress

[forest palm]

old hand term for additional enemies

[wet badge]

I got fdg d30 not fs5

Got agir d25

[storm heron]

there are some exceptions when enemy have extremely low eva, but generally yes

[storm heron]

what season are you on rn?

[wet badge]

Focusing pr4

Alr got anchorage and avp to fs5

Dont got marco yet

[storm heron]

I suggest not to convert high dr/pr blanks

[wet badge]

Ok do i save them

[storm heron]

mainly because it is a very short term thing you can do, it will make your later ships slower

[storm heron]

yes

I remember converting all of my dr6 blanks to ply, now I have a 180 excess ply bp but I still need 230 for kearsoup

[eternal basalt]

Roma gives pr5, do you recommend rhem on pr5 or pr4 then

[frank pulsar]

its kearsarge not kearsoup, kearsoup is my old nickname

[wet badge]

What does mgm stand for

[frank pulsar]

main gun mount

[wet badge]

What do main gun base on bb do

[plain saffron]

yes, thanks but now i'm confused

[storm heron]

if you think by converting DRs to haku will allow you to complete second tenrai and DRs at once, sure. Otherwise safe PR and DR bps from Roma event for pr5 ships

[frank pulsar]

the amount of mgm a ship has affect how many volleys they launch per salvo

[storm heron]

it's ingrained in my brain lol

[storm heron]

wrong, in this case
pew pew
pew pew, pew pew
pew pew, pew pew pew pew

[plain saffron]

but what if i use quad gun

[eternal basalt]

<MLB BB not usable

[plain saffron]

is there any single gun for BB

[storm heron]

pew pew pew pew
pew pew pew pew, pew pew pew pew
pew pew pew pew, pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew

[storm heron]

idk, my level 100 lb1 NJ have the same performance as 100 mlb tennessee in 13-4 boss

[urban solar]

twin is the minimum

[late flame]

lb1 is the problem

[shell willow]

sounds like bad planning on your part and not the whole method being always bad

[storm heron]

I mean I haven't discovered gph back then

I still watch just3c. Wait no sorry that's not ur point

[eternal basalt]

UR same as Rare (at *2 oil)

[storm heron]

I see, arguable I guess

[storm heron]

*4 oil?

[eternal basalt]

*2 it seems, but no lmb NJ is same as MLB NJ

[muted ember]

is it better to use this on Amagi or Uni

[white agate]

is chang chung main fleet mode reversable?

[jaunty vault]

yes

costs 200 coins everytime

[eternal basalt]

Yes, just do rhe node again

[white agate]

nice

[storm heron]

Imagine if you can't revert

[eternal basalt]

BBVs

[muted ember]

is this a good figther for Sara?

[jaunty vault]

trash

[plain saffron]

no

[zenith peak]

can musashi be used as boss or is she only good for mob?

[plain saffron]

both

[jaunty vault]

both

[zenith peak]

Oki

[storm heron]

wait who's sara again?

[zenith peak]

saratoga iirc

[polar venture]

MLB a rainbow shipyard unit really takes a long while :/

[jaunty vault]

nagamis first love

[plain saffron]

https://azurlane.nagami.moe/images/salatuojia_h.png

[storm heron]

[eternal basalt]

Not for vets (140k core is useless)

[plain saffron]

uhm actually my first love is-

[muted ember]

is this stackable?

[storm heron]

I think it's the BPS

[jaunty vault]

no

[storm heron]

stat yes effect no lmao nvm you can't even equip two HAHAHA

[plain saffron]

same skill doesn't stack, and you can't equip 2 of that

[polar venture]

You can't buy general use blue prints from core, wym?

[rapid grail]

this beacon and avi manjuu skills cant stack on same CV/L

[eternal basalt]

You mean DRs rather than UR?

[storm heron]

if they can, it's 80 AVI vs 4% damage

[polar venture]

Example, brest

[storm heron]

me with d26 nakh: yes it takes a long time

[plain saffron]

i should go build the pr7 ships

[jaunty vault]

same

[storm heron]

[muted ember]

Are most of the boss fleet enemies heavy armour? cause I'm debating on putting this on Portland(who is my boss tank)

[storm heron]

Just use whatever the rest dd gun you have

[rapid grail]

heavy armor quite rare, morel ikely to get light and medium armor enemies

[storm heron]

I doubt portland's personal damage with her dd gun will make much different to begin with

[rapid grail]

and if there's heavy armor anyways then thati s a job for DD torps, CV/L airstrikes and BB salvos

[atomic abyss]

Not worth upgrading tbh

It's just more expensive than the purple guns underneath it

[late flame]

i upgrade it for submarines

[undone plover]

is there a cap on cat talent slots?

[atomic abyss]

And frankly, up till 13-4, heavy armour is non existent in campaign

@muted ember there are no campaign bosses that are heavy armour until 13-4

[storm heron]

what about the one that can make a whole screen red thingy.. oh ok

[atomic abyss]

The only heavy armour enemies are the occasional Nagato and Mutsu elites and productions from w10+

And later Yamashiro and Fusou retros

[storm heron]

there's still nagato till world 15

[spring bolt]

ch 14 and 15 have more heavy bosses than light tho
ch 9, 10, 11 have many heavy armor mobs and all high threat

[atomic abyss]

The biggest issue being that

[muted ember]

I'm on w12 now

[atomic abyss]

DD guns just don't do much to heavy anyways

The twin 127 is just a giant scam all things considered

At least the twin 100 can be upgraded into the 100 kai

And actually has rof going for it - so even at its worse, it can be used for shield breaking

The twin 120, which is purple, is just outright better than the twin 127 for most intents and purposes

[spring bolt]

ch 12 is heavy armor free, 100%

[crude fable]

is victtorio veneto usable?

[spring bolt]

she's above average to top gold bbs, usable but not as good as rainbows

[crude fable]

Oh tysm

[wet badge]

What abt strasbourg should i keep her as mobber

[white agate]

we get 24 ur bulin per year excluding all ur event right?

[jaunty vault]

yes, assuming you exhaust all sources

other than UR events obviously

[rapid grail]

4000 per month + 1000 from shop (specialized cores)
1 purin per 2 months
12 purins + 3 purins + 6 purins
idk where u get the other 3 purins

[white agate]

5000 per month + 1000 tho

[storm heron]

2 urins per month not including events

[rapid grail]

oh the cap got increased from 4k to 5k. my bad for not noticing

[spring bolt]

her dps isn't good without richy, basically only used in french fleet when you don't have alsace. and you only use french fleet for fun or you don't have other rainbow bbs

[forest palm]

Strasbourg is just +1 FP

[white agate]

is there a % list of urgent commission spawn after a sortie?
in the last 2-3 days i got 0
and i am farming like normal

[inland shoal]

No

[white agate]

so, just bad rng i guess

[jaunty vault]

whats normal

[white agate]

around 12-14 sortie per day excluding hard more 3 sortie i guess

[inland shoal]

I guess? Though if you're farming normally you should get some urgent comms a day pretty much no matter what

Sortie means full map run here I take it?

[jaunty vault]

no urgent comms isn't too far fatched for that number of sorties

[white agate]

they always have the 4hours lasting time right?

[inland shoal]

No

[jaunty vault]

different comms have different time allotted before they disappear

night comms however, are different

[white agate]

but no smaller than 30 minutes ever right?

[molten merlin]

Hello, can someone give me advice with opsi fleets? Like any ships that's currently on my dock to lvl etc etc

[jaunty vault]

i think so? never really noticed

[inland shoal]

I believe the shortest is 1:30 or 2h

[inland shoal]

Make a thread and post your dock

[jaunty vault]

btw, night comms appear at 1800 and go away at 0300 server time

[white agate]

yep, so around 6 h before reset they spawn and lasts till 3 hours after the reset i take it

[molten merlin]

Advice on opsi fleets, mobbing to bossing armour types

[inland shoal]

24-18≠4

Smh edit

[white agate]

yep, i corrected

[forest palm]

night coms spawn in 12 hrs to simplify things

[white agate]

yep

[forest palm]

also night coms will persist through reset, and only expire when the timer hits zero

[inland shoal]

Do other urgent comms disappear on reset?

[forest palm]

I don't think so, something to test, the basic coms obviously reset though

hmm...now that I think about it, ya all urgent coms persist through reset, have sat on plenty of 10 ~ 12 hr coms

[jaunty glade]

is there a motivation to push campaign past ch12? right now im grinding 12-1 for fdg tech exp

[jaunty vault]

map specific ships, gems, bragging rights

[white agate]

gems for dock space

[frank pulsar]

uh from a meta perspective just gems ig
otherwise youd do it for map exclusive ships

[jaunty glade]

gotcha so no real urge if im slight dolphin

[plain saffron]

anyone remember where else they use this theme, i swear there was somewhere else

[forest palm]

no amount of money you spend will help you truly progress

[wet badge]

Lvl 70 thing

[jaunty vault]

i dont remember

[frank pulsar]

uh i think 3d dorm? the new ui interface all look similar to that

[storm heron]

buying oil be like

[forest palm]

that Lv 70 boost is small, almost nothing in comparison to the whole of the games progression, you're just getting to the part where you're able to grind better, there's no way to speed up Gear Lab Mats, Gear, or Research, AL rewards people that play over time than those that spend

the devs will always treat outfits, and other cosmetics as the real selling drive of this game

[plain saffron]

same theme but doesn't have that bar

[frank pulsar]

idk then, but yea i kinda rmb seeing it somewhere too

[plain saffron]

found it, cruise shop

did anyone reach lvl50 yet

[boreal wagon]

what u need

[plain saffron]

can you really buy only 4 gear skin per month

[boreal wagon]

yes

[late flame]

yup

[plain saffron]

and is there only 4 of these gear shin or there's more below

[boreal wagon]

not per month tho, per season

[late flame]

only 4 now

[boreal wagon]

there is currently only 4, you can buy 4 of any combination (so 4 of the same or 4 different etc) per season and you may not own more than 9 of each individual one in total

[plain saffron]

[late flame]

yeah

[boreal wagon]

im not sure why it says month it should be per cruise season but thatll be easy to test when nov comes

[plain saffron]

also why is this capped at 20, is it just because it's coded that way or you actually can hold only 21

[forest palm]

one way to find out

[late flame]

not gonna waste gems on that lul

[plain saffron]

i sure hope i didn't misclick on confirm

also if you click on each ship skin will it goes to preview or directly to confirm popup

[plain saffron]

CN also says month hmm

[boreal wagon]

yeah im trying to find what is actually correct

[plain saffron]

i guess i can do some testing but i need to buy one
and reach lvl 50 first

[inland shoal]

Idk I'm not allowed to buy any of them

[jaunty vault]

why not

[late flame]

already bought but i dont remember whether it previews hmm

[inland shoal]

"Sold out"

[late flame]

it will reflect sold out if already own yeah

[jaunty vault]

oh i thought your mum was limiting your pocket money

[inland shoal]

If that was the case I could still click it at least to see what the popup is

[jaunty vault]

true

[late flame]

imagine if skin has DISCARD option so that you can buy it again

[boreal wagon]

seems like month might be correct
(hard to say the limit resets on the server side)

[spring bolt]

20 is just one time purchase limit, you can own more than that

as even you buy it, you don't want to buy 5000

[late flame]

instant level 100 whale method

[frank quartz]

Is there a guide on gear lab for beginners and where/what to farm, etc?

[plain saffron]

i see

[rapid grail]

where to farm: ||c1 +|| c3 (if you have time), c5 (if not and not picking up Akashis randomly)
c3 and c5 rates are pretty similar but c3 should win out more since you have more chances of getting akashis, meaning more AP boxes

dont buy blue and purple opsi mats, they're plentiful
gold mats you hoard as much as you can and craft what you need
get to 188/188/144 to be able to farm pretty much every stage including strongholds to get good loots

[frank pulsar]

gear lab materials are operation siren (opsi) exclusive
just do literally anything you can since materials dont drop from any specific place, port shops guarantee a good amount of materials though
also adaptability is important dont neglect it

as for what equips to make you can check /gearlab in #bot-spam

[late flame]

@idle jungle try asking here instead

[frank pulsar]

note that the first paragraph only applies when youve finished everything and have excess ap to spend

you should priortise clearing the map once then do loggers, strongholds, normal arbiter and hard arbiter if youre strong enough
(rewards from each arbiter difficulty are one-off occurences per month)

[idle jungle]

Not sure of what to do, but I'm stuck at 14-2, mob fleets are still managable, but the I'm suffering surviving boss fleet for both vanguard and main fleet
The fleet 1 for mob, I think I can replace prince for something?

[hardy skiff]

When are we expected to get PR6 catchup? There's a pattern in regards to when these things usually drop?

[kind flare]

What does 188/188/144 refer to ?

[frank pulsar]

adaptability

[kind flare]

Oh that

[frank pulsar]

replace dunkeresqe asap for a stronger bb, and dont use ships that aren't at least lv120
also drop that ship between kronk and plymouth

[idle jungle]

I think my fleets' here?

Dunkerque is for fast cleaning for farming since preload gun with barrage in 13-4

[frank pulsar]

okay youre not ready for w14 yet, go and level/limit break your ships first in 12-1/4

[late flame]

14-2 is a different ball game yeah

[idle jungle]

Yeah, but not sure of who should be the case

Odin to replace Dunk maybe, I read her skill about SS.

[hollow gust]

Dunkerque for w14, that's balsy asf

[wind hazel]

what happened to your FdG?

[hollow gust]

And Marco

[idle jungle]

Mmm... well, stuck on EXP farming II

[hollow gust]

You should be finishing pr4 and your fdg as soon as possibpe

[hollow gust]

Time to focus on it instead of w14

[idle jungle]

I do have Marco, just, no sure of what value she'll provide on W14

[polar venture]

What ships go in merit?

[hollow gust]

Marco Polo Fatesim 5 is one of the best picks

[late flame]

w14 and w15 essentially are current end-game stuff for campaign
what has worked in w13 will no longer apply to above

[frank pulsar]

you can run smth like
marco polo, unicorn, volga, prinz heinrich/plymouth, san diego, mogador for mob,
new jersey, shinano, shangri la, agir, san francisco, kronkstadt for boss

[hollow gust]

Much better then dunkerque copium

[idle jungle]

Ahh, yes. Marco already fatesim 5, do I give her on mob fleet then

[hollow gust]

[idle jungle]

3 CA for boss?

[frank pulsar]

*i prioritised options closer to 120, this is not optimal
do you know how to gear your fleets

[hollow gust]

I won't use algerie tho

[frank pulsar]

whats wrong with that

[idle jungle]

I think the mechanism need DD for the visual bar

[sharp owl]

Am I anywhere ready for 12-2

[frank pulsar]

eh yr prob right san fran could be better

[hollow gust]

Not worth that shitty kearsarge , use your Nelson

[frank pulsar]

no, people recommend dd for their naturally high asw stat, but submarines are only a threat in mob and san diego can solo it with a hedgehog

[hardy skiff]

Yeah Sandy has DD level ASW if I remember correctly

[hollow gust]

Nelson instead of Kearsarge
Portland boss tank
Belfast mob tank

[sharp owl]

Ok is the rest of my ships ok then?

[idle jungle]

Oh, I'll take note of your team provided then.

[frank pulsar]

the only concealment that matters is your backline to ensure they arent directly targetted by enemy bb, and you can maintain it by having enough asw and having good ramming boat defence

[idle jungle]

Oh, I got Aquila today, seems well for W14?

[frank pulsar]

you shouldnt have much issues clearing w14 with the fleets i provided if you gear them right and get them all to 120+ and max limit break
also, avoid flares but grab the searchlight, try not to take fights when in fog and never take a 3* bb node out of ammo

[wind hazel]

very good especially on mob, paired with unicorn

[idle jungle]

And so Marco equip her SAP gun?

[soft raft]

Aquila pog yes
Also for future reference, dont pull on perament heavy/Special pool

[frank pulsar]

no, use georgia gun (twin 457mm) or use a champy gun ( triple 406 mle)

marco polo gun is obsolete and has no use cases

[idle jungle]

I thought medium armor enemy is typical in W14

If Marco is for mob fleet

[frank pulsar]

also i almost forgot but stagger your backline, meaning you try to maintain a high dmg uptime

[soft raft]

Technically Marco Polo gun has better anti-med modifier than champy gun

but it has higher spread and worse anti-heavy modifier than Champy

[frank pulsar]

while its medium mod is good, the biggest threats are heavy armour so champy gun/georgia gun are overall better because of this

[idle jungle]

Got it.

[frank pulsar]

oh and dont use rocket planes of any kind, their targetting kinda doesnt work properly cuz of the concealment mechanic

[idle jungle]

But based on it, I got no healer for boss then. Or maybe I can change Shinano or Shagri-La to Aquila?

[frank pulsar]

no need a healer for boss, if youre worried swap shangrila and volga

[hardy skiff]

Boss are a dps check mostly

[soft raft]

not to mention you still need some semblance of AA interception to avoid revealing your planes

[polar venture]

Are any of the merit SR ships worth buying?

[wind hazel]

i'd rather drop shangrila and raise the vanguard

nj vanguard shinano seem good backline

[soft raft]

JdA, Eldridge, and (if you dont have Vanguard) maybe Duke

[frank pulsar]

theres barely any planes, roombas will be enough

[idle jungle]

Oh, also following th mechanism, Torpedo bomber like Judy is not viable?

[frank pulsar]

nah even without concealment they arent good picks for campaign, they need a slow or stop to reliably land its hits

[polar venture]

Sry, who is JDA?

[frank pulsar]

jeanne de arc

[sharp owl]

Barracudas I think are the best torpedo bomber

[timid solar]

any of these ships worth building?

[soft raft]

you shouldnt really be using converging torpedoes in campaign in general
they're gonna whiff like 99% of their payload without a slow/freeze keeping the enemy in place, but that requires syncing which is a pretty big no no in campaign

[hollow gust]

Not even close

Barracudas are the broke people planes

[soft raft]

Wyvern and Breguet are right there

[wind hazel]

wtf toxic elitism

[frank pulsar]

wyvern/spearfish are the best for campaign
for bossing youd usually use a combination of saiun kai, ju-87, ryusei and vit

[late flame]

vit2

[idle jungle]

Wait, not Judy, Ju-87

Is it for boss stage only?

[frank pulsar]

same thing, converging torpedo bombers arent good for campaign (even for campaign bossing it isnt good)

[reef flume]

🥲

[timid solar]

anyone?

[wind hazel]

a lot of them are worth building for the tech

[storm heron]

is the gear UL a scam?

or is the gold worth the hinden chance?

I'm low on coins

[hollow gust]

Gear UL is one of the best options for gear

That one is not in your focus though

[storm heron]

is there anything in pr6 weapon worth grabbing many?

[rapid grail]

pick a god and pray for good blessings
success means one UR gear print, maybe two or even up to four
generally yes. they sometimes scam though

[soft raft]

for pratical purposes, they can be summed up as "Good but better options exist"
for tech: Ark Royal META, Hiryuu META, Souryuu META, Queen Elizabeth META, Helena META

[storm heron]

like the pr7 vits for example, need around 3

[timid solar]

Thank you!!

[storm heron]

wait they can give you more than 1 rainbow bps?

[hollow gust]

It can give 3

Wait no even 4

[storm heron]

OMG WHAT

[soft raft]

not really
I just got like 1 of every PR6 gold gear (mainly for collection) and 2 hindenburg guns

[storm heron]

UL WE GO THEN

[boreal wagon]

just bc it can give up to 4 doesnt mean its common

there will be quite a few times where you even end up with 0

(still by far the best option in terms of gear focus tho)

[wind hazel]

what's the highest actually? is this fake or edited?

[storm heron]

THE WHAT

[boreal wagon]

5 should be possible iirc

[storm heron]

bro I thought they give like 0 or 1

damn that's insane then

[boreal wagon]

idr what the actual max is tho, nor if the actual max is even known

[wind hazel]

damn 3 years playing and never saw anything more than 2

[rapid grail]

hindenburg gun, 2/3.
felix gun, get one each for felix and otto von alvensleben if you like them
flandre gun is a good sidegrade of champy gun for timing purposes
55mm gerat AA gun is fastest accelerator by far. pretty good for its role
kearsarge gun pretty slow, but is good as long as you can take advantage of its gimmick like yamato gun

imo get hinden and flandre's stuff, they're pretty good at what they doo

[hollow gust]

You can even get another +1 with the bonus gear

[rapid grail]

yes ive seen 4 iirc

[storm heron]

it looks like 6 is even possible here

[rapid grail]

3+1 is the combo yes

[boreal wagon]

4 is def and 5 should be possible w/o a bonus print

[hollow gust]

Looks like it's 5+1

[boreal wagon]

bonus prints show as a separate item

[storm heron]

assuming each "boxes" give 1 bp and there are 6 "boxes" with the pr weapon pool and several "boxes" with the general weapon pool

but idk just maybe

[idle jungle]

Oh, also, do we have a tierlist for Augment Module, heard that some are very OP but some are worse than purple.

[storm heron]

ah I guess one don't even need more than 3 flan guns

[rapid grail]

true i love leche flan. too bad they're way too sweet

[storm heron]

anyways thx for the 30 mins UL info, it's insane that the drop variance are quite large, welp even though the average is probably less than 1, I can still gamble my coins

[wind hazel]

think there's not many that are relevant. mainly san diego, hood, saratoga, taihou etc

[hollow gust]

Shangrila

[wind hazel]

just build on ships that you are using

[hollow gust]

Taihou is mid asf again

[storm heron]

ibuki and izumo

[soft raft]

Izumo sure
ibuki prob
and doesnt really help that both of them are research ships

[hollow gust]

Ibuki is def a sure

[idle jungle]

👍

[hollow gust]

Izumo is the one that looks more mid

[storm heron]

ibuki to the point she is better than unzen if fights are shorter nvm I thought I heard this somewhere but I can't find it in chat

[hollow gust]

That sounds cope asf

[storm heron]

izumo brings her to one of the strongest iirc

strongest sr bbs

[idle jungle]

Got that one about AM, but chinese, But I think the tier is easy to understand?

[timid solar]

so for tech, I don't need to grind their limit break item right? just get a 3* and level to 120?

[idle jungle]

Not sure about accuracy.

[wind hazel]

.

[rapid grail]

yes you can raise METAs to lvl 120 without getting their LB crystals

[wind hazel]

like you see Eugen tier A. do you use Eugen??

[soft raft]

iirc you still need to MLB them

[rapid grail]

i literally have one META that is 0LB lvl 120

[idle jungle]

For OPS I think.

[wind hazel]

[white agate]

when do you stop buying t4 gearboxes from event shops?

i am skipping them since long ago since i felt i had all

[late flame]

dunno havent bought any ever

[hollow gust]

Stigma test her and she performs worse then Nelson in w15

[wind hazel]

when you have enough quad mag and hellcats and catapults

[hardy skiff]

When are we expected to get PR6 catchup? There's a pattern in regards to when these things usually drop?

[timid solar]

Thanks!!

[rapid grail]

id say 6 months - 1 year for avg gameplay

[soft raft]

like next Jan I think

[rapid grail]

because by then you can start doing OpSi for more gear to complement your existing gears in your account

[hardy skiff]

Oh so it's getting close then, nice

[white agate]

yep, i think i am only missing magn torpedoes to fill my 3-4th fleet

[idle jungle]

I translate the red words about Eugen and Illustrious, those two are for newbies for stability

[soft raft]

lmaooooooooooo

[wind hazel]

again don't use tierlist to decide what's best for your account

[idle jungle]

Funny, newbie and augment module, are these 2 even related?

[rapid grail]

Even more of a bait character than she was

[wind hazel]

if i don't use eugen or illustrious, do you think it's wise for me to craft their augments?

[rapid grail]

😔

[hardy skiff]

Eugen can be useful before you have any eva gear, specially before you even got beaver badge

[wind hazel]

no newbie should be using eugen to begin with

eugen is the ultimate newbie trap

[late flame]

problem being gold bulins are not exactly in great supply for newbs

[soft raft]

Illustrious also isnt really worth the effort
esp early game

[spring bolt]

the red words means don't do them before sandy aug

[idle jungle]

Do should. For tech point for PR.

[wind hazel]

you're just wrong

[idle jungle]

Most CA of Ironblood provide more tech point

[soft raft]

that can be done later
Are you even in a position to do Research right now

[rose cosmos]

Is this decent, will give her a twin 406 later on

[hardy skiff]

Yeah there are much better CAs but early game if rng doesn't give CAs, it can be weird sometimes or only give you shitty CAs, at least Eugen can do some tanking and ends up better than most purple and blue CAs for that

[wind hazel]

you can get enough ironblood tech points through obtaining and selective MLB

[idle jungle]

Able to Pr all

[sharp socket]

any of the ships in core data shop have good tech

[hollow gust]

That gun is utter dogshit

[soft raft]

KGV Gun is complete dogshit
And that augment is worse on anti-light

[idle jungle]

The spread is killing the gun

[spring bolt]

the guy was asking advice for 14-2 so i think he should have done research related stuffs much earlier

[late flame]

iirc he still stuck at fdg

[wind hazel]

emile, CL EVA

[rose cosmos]

I don't have the 406

[idle jungle]

Just 100 Bp more for MLB Plymouth, But seems to be -age-

[storm heron]

I mean nocal beat nelson there but okay I might be wrong about izumo strongest gold, I pretty much quoted Jimmy there

[idle jungle]

I need that Main gun base +1 so much

[spring bolt]

yeah, working on fdg is the right direction

[wind hazel]

wasp too, rld

[soft raft]

Emile, West Virginia, Mutsu, Independence, and Wasp

[hardy skiff]

When it comes to tech eva is pretty nice to CLs and CAs, FP for DDs is huge and BBs and CVs really appreciate hit and reload

[storm heron]

more like parroted 💀

[sharp socket]

alr ty

[late flame]

most of those ships giving good tech are kinda shit uh i mean meh though

[frank pulsar]

strongest gold bb should still be owari

[sharp socket]

ill drag them through 12-4 when i get to it, but first i need 5x lusty u first

[elfin hollow]

would noshiro muse have been OP if she buffed the CV torps as well?

[hardy skiff]

I'm trying to max FP DD from tech, I'm having to level a bunch of blues and purples, thankfully there's a good number of golds too

[hollow gust]

Izumo is closer to 3-4th

[idle jungle]

You can focus on both SS equipment then for core shop? The snorkel and pressure resistant Hull design

[sharp socket]

i have all that already

[frank pulsar]

who is she contending with? i assume top 2 is owari and the new eu bb i forgot the name of

[storm heron]

woah yeah right

[idle jungle]

Which DD do need FP that much

[storm heron]

Daisen

[hardy skiff]

I'm mostly doing it for Kitakaze

[wind hazel]

[frank pulsar]

ah okay, i forgot she existed

[wind hazel]

is daisen actually good?

[elfin hollow]

for new players yes

[wind hazel]

cause it seems like almost nobody talk about her at all

[frank pulsar]

idk, im taking their word for it and ill confirm it at some point

[frank pulsar]

daisen is from pr7

[hollow gust]

Cause it's a gold BB

[soft raft]

if they can get to PR7 before no longer being a newbie LOL

[elfin hollow]

who says new players can't start with pr7

[idle jungle]

The unreliable heal? That need enemy to shot her plane

[wind hazel]

people talk about owari

[frank pulsar]

who says new players have the tech point for pr7

[elfin hollow]

they get it?

[soft raft]

The uhhhh
900 tech points needed to start development on her?

[hollow gust]

Izumo feels overrated , I even prefer my Stella

[late flame]

just whale all pr packs ez

[frank pulsar]

not to mention if you start from pr7 you might as well start over imho

[idle jungle]

I think we all have a huge gap for the term of new players.
Or is your new players 120lv

[storm heron]

bruh I wonder where is Indiana compared to like the rest in the video I watch nvm she is not tiered yet

[sharp socket]

is lusty u significantly better than langley for w15 support fleet

[wind hazel]

yes

[storm heron]

so maybe you're right about Indiana stronk

[frank pulsar]

should be a good amount better yea

[soft raft]

Yeah
And from a newbie perspective, I still prefer reccomending Hood/Nelson over going out of your way to stay in PR1 any longer than you need to

[wind hazel]

implacable indomitable illustrious and illustrious muse should be the top 4

[sharp socket]

if only i started buying lusty u earlier, oh well

[dusk maple]

top 2 gold bb, alongside owari.

[frank pulsar]

depending on the person you ask here i could be considered a new player too

(ive been around for 2 and a half years)

[wind hazel]

i guess daisen's accessibility drowned her usage

[dusk maple]

she's gold in a rainbow age

[late flame]

sadge

[frank pulsar]

tbh i forgot about everyone in pr7 other than the drs

[storm heron]

I stand corrected

[wind hazel]

should have make gold PRs like 500 pts or something lol

[storm heron]

[wind hazel]

and add weekend gem enhancement, p2w

[idle jungle]

I return in Mogador event, sad I missed a lot

[dusk maple]

I hate Bayard for breaking pvp battles. My game crashed so many times against her

[elfin hollow]

wait what

[idle jungle]

Hoping for Roon's module though, once so useful but now a basic unit for every new CA

[wind hazel]

is that a new pvp def tech i just hear

[storm heron]

what happened, how? I need her in my defense fleet now

[late flame]

have not bumped into defender bayard though kek

[sharp socket]

i must build bayard now this sounds amazing if real

[storm heron]

but didnt you OCed

[elfin hollow]

i saw a bayard defense fleet but beat it, idk how it's broken

[late flame]

time to slot her in so i can crash other folks' game

[wind hazel]

there's someone on washington that uses full pr7 def, but i don't think i've crashed against bayard so far

[soft raft]

Eh, she'd still be a slightly more expensive portland

[dusk maple]

yeah they should've patched her already

[storm heron]

I heard carl good

unfortunately missed her tho, what did I miss?

agir sidegrade?

[modern depot]

Does Plymouth have a fate simulation?

[storm heron]

no

[idle jungle]

No, not even PR4 egir yet

[crimson glacier]

i dont think she is anywhere near agir

[wind hazel]

good mob tank. can tank and have damage

[idle jungle]

A weird, yet easy to activate heal too

[storm heron]

good thing it's not nichely gamebreaking

[idle jungle]

God, that makes her skill activation slow too, the barrage rely on that 25%

[storm heron]

that reminds me, has there an instance when ancho's skill is deliberately not upgraded just so her torpedoes can trigger 3 seconds faster?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[idle jungle]

That blue rarity one torpedo you mean.

[storm heron]

oh I thought I heard it from one of the yt videos I watched haha

[late flame]

youtube yikes

[storm heron]

and I still kinda believed that when upgrading her skill in lil E account

[idle jungle]

Big E moment

[storm heron]

[idle jungle]

I wonder if fatesim 5 Felix is more OP than most CA

[cobalt rapids]

most CA are not good so yes

[idle jungle]

Like, when will the PR5 catch up occur?

[cobalt rapids]

pr5 alr has catchup

[idle jungle]

6*

[cobalt rapids]

prob in january

[idle jungle]

*Sigh

[timid solar]

Any of the PR6 fatesim good?

[cobalt rapids]

strongest got stronger

shimanto got the best fatesim and she was also the most notable one from 6

[timid solar]

who should I work on first?

[cobalt rapids]

shimanto

[storm heron]

work on shi

[idle jungle]

She doesn't lock on that AA gun anymore

[late flame]

shimanto yeah
flandre and felix imo are low prio if you have rainbows (e.g. alsace/soyuz , mog and/or laff2)

[eager mulch]

renhex when will pr9 be coinable?

[timid solar]

What is Shimanto's role again XD

[tame jungle]

Tomorrow

I am now renhex

[idle jungle]

How's Jervis's survivability for her skill on the leader place

[late flame]

renhax

[idle jungle]

Find out that most DD wanna replace the 1st place from CA from most of their skill

[cobalt rapids]

good in some content as long as the conditions are fulfilled

[late flame]

anti-air support , particularly relevant in campaign w13-w15
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shimanto

[nova lichen]

How good is Centaur, I just got her.

[timid solar]

Ah ok

[timid solar]

Thanks!!

[cobalt rapids]

meh

[nova lichen]

So okay, works but not as good as other ships?

[jaunty vault]

more or less

[eager mulch]

less or more

[idle jungle]

Need a Royal team just to carry her support skill if Augment module available

[soft raft]

not terrible, but not good enough to make her a worthwhile investment in the long run

[nova lichen]

Noted, thanks

[soft raft]

that's just for a extra damage buff for herself
and she isnt that cracked enoug to justify getting that self buff, nor does the self buff make her cracked enough to justify it

[spring bolt]

~~if you give centaur 2 La-9, her dps against medium is quite decent, plus her buff ~~

[idle jungle]

She also need to fly her planes before others to buff main fleet

[spring bolt]

being a cvl, going fast is never an issue, and usually she needs to worry about being too fast

[eager mulch]

what tech is natori

[cobalt rapids]

eva

[jaunty vault]

/wiki natori

[spring bolt]

isn't the bot dead?

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Natori CL eva

[jaunty vault]

its not

/owarida ender he dum

[odd root]

You do not have permission to use this command

[plain saffron]

/tags

[odd root]

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[plain saffron]

eh works fine

[eager mulch]

works better than nagami

[cobalt rapids]

look what u did coop

[jaunty vault]

you guys just don't believe me huh

[eager mulch]

I always believed you coop

[spring bolt]

/wiki z20

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

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Oct 12, 2024, 3:15 PM

[late flame]

i believe #bot-spam moar though

[jaunty vault]

smh modding gph in 2024

[plain saffron]

cooper banned from using nimi confirmed

[jaunty vault]

i intentionally made it so that the bot command wouldn't work cause the question was already answered
it was more of a sarcastic remark on how easy it is to access that information and still turtle ended up asking in gph

[tame jungle]

Top 10 smartest anime protagonists

[jaunty vault]

[soft raft]

what's the anti-heavy OpSi CV comp sync looking like now with Amagi CV?

[spring bolt]

Just use meta comp

[soft raft]

and what does that look like?
I only have the pre-Amagi CV NagatoM comps on hand

[viscid swift]

Amagi, Shinano, Hakuryu, Mogador, Kazgaumo, Unzen

[spring bolt]

amagi nano haku, somewhere around 22.8s with 10 tech rld and without cat

[soft raft]

what about the gear on the CVs
That's mainly what I'm asking about

[spring bolt]

just an example, many similar loadouts are also equally good

[soft raft]

[cobalt rapids]

implacable instead of haku

[white agate]

is Curtiss XSB3C worth it or can i keep it's elite version?
also when is the Prototype Su-2 better?, vs light armor bosses only?

[cobalt rapids]

keep purple version

su-2 might be better than divers on light

[coral folio]

ehm what should i buy with my guild tokens i've just noticed that i have 5200 of 'em xD

[white agate]

even if i got a lot of gear lab resources?

[cobalt rapids]

yes theres better stuff to spend resources on

[spring bolt]

in my experience, without la-9, implac comp is less consistent than haku

[soft raft]

What about outside of Nagato META fight

[cobalt rapids]

i thought they asked about opsi not nagatometa