gameplay-help

[versed sentinel]

are purple loggers worth buying from port store?

[rose cosmos]

I said that because I have 600 on hand, so it’s either 30 slots or a dorm floor

But anyway I chose a floor dorm

[polar venture]

what is this currency for?

[sweet delta]

To host meta showdown battles

[polar venture]

And how do I get to the shop!

For the currency on the far right

[haughty pine]

Hey all can someone recommend me a team/which level 100 Tactical raid to do? I feel as though I'm not properly equipped so if u have gear recommendations please tell also thx

[sweet delta]

Post pictures of your dock in a thread

[eager mulch]

Blue port > port > resupply

[sweet delta]

Follow the tutorial, shop is in blue ports

[eager mulch]

desu ploy wtf autocorrect

[polar venture]

every time i try to go back to port there are mobs there

[haughty pine]

Ok 1 sec ty 😄

[eager mulch]

Either you’re going to the zone outside the port and not the port itself, or the port has a daily mission to clear the zone

[haughty pine]

Sorry I don't use discord often how/where do I create a thread?

[sweet delta]

Type /thread, or long tap your message

[haughty pine]

dock help

[keen sable]

Easiest thing to do is manual air and double tap when boss appears. You don't need to be good at manual or dodge.

[turbid shell]

how to check hard mode boss armor type?

[eager mulch]

what hard mode

[turbid shell]

13-2

[frank pulsar]

if campaign, check wiki
the boss armour type usually the same as the playable type
for events youll have to guess based on their hull type

[eager mulch]

if its campaign its the same as normal

[cobalt rapids]

wdym blue ones? as in open blue boxes ? no u should compose em to purple

[keen sable]

Always purple

[polar venture]

Can enty still do decent in mob fleet?

[tame jungle]

sure but she's a little overkill

[eager mulch]

unless she doesn’t proc

[tame jungle]

inherently underpowered ship...

[polar venture]

I need eagle union exp 😅 that's why I'm switching her from boss team for now

[eager mulch]

Enty is no amagi chan

what ship are you even doing

[tame jungle]

kearsarge?

[polar venture]

FDG

[tame jungle]

?

[eager mulch]

FdG doesn’t take Eagle Union xp

[polar venture]

Iron blood, woops

Odin it is!!

[polar venture]

Thx for saving me the oil

[safe crane]

so im still using basically the most common nooby team, like starter, unicorn, portland, etc. ships like those. how do you break away from the noobier units? like i have a couple srs or urs but most of the time people say the nooby team is just better than using those earlier in the game. at what point in the game do you break away from your first main team? also im at chapter like 5 or 6 and my team is max level like 80-90

[eager mulch]

depends who you have and where you are

I wouldn’t think of switching before W9

[soft raft]

it's alot less of a "Nobody team" than you think
Enterprise is one of the best SR CVs and is competitive with UR CVs in the damage department
Portland is a very good tank for how cheap she is
Helena still has utility late game
And Unicorn is the best healer in the game after retrofit

[safe crane]

damn okay

how do you get enterprise? im using all those ships u brought up too

[eager mulch]

how does enty compare to URs in the support department

[eager mulch]

medal shop/rookie missions

[safe crane]

it says clear 7-1 on wiki, do you legit just get her free?

[soft raft]

either medal shop (if CVs are in rotation), finishing the rookie missions, or getting her from a event banner pull, whichever comes first

[soft raft]

that's the last mission before you finish the rookie missions
after that it gives you a choice between Hood, Enterprise, Illustrious, and San Diego

[safe crane]

would enterprise usually be the best choice?

[soft raft]

Enterprise > Hood > San Diego > Illustrious

[safe crane]

thanks for the help guys

[thick venture]

I got Plymouth who next

[soft raft]

Did you already get FdG and all of PR4 yet?

[thick venture]

Yeps

[soft raft]

Brest
then after that, anyone you want, really

[thick venture]

I haven't done Odin and champy yet tho

Okeydoke

Omg I don't have ships required for the combat xp lmfao

[south zephyr]

Are the builds from https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cv the best ones?

[sweet delta]

Rarely

The best build depends on the fleet and enemy and more

[soft raft]

Heavily context dependent
ECTL Mainly tiers around campaign

[hollow gust]

it names most of best gears yes, but the build depends on you reading how each gear works

[south zephyr]

So I have to have a different build for each ship on each content?

[sweet delta]

If you want the best

[south zephyr]

Damn

[fervent hearth]

Well depending on the enemy u wanna alter ur fleets and gear etc

my fellow shikanokoko

[soft raft]

the game lets you have 3 gear presets on each ship so it's not as much of a hassle as you'd think

[south zephyr]

this rabbit hole was more deep than I thought, and I already forgot what each thing does

[fervent hearth]

Dw you’ll get use to it shikNokokochan

[south zephyr]

Well, I will kron/groze'ed each enemy that I encounter for the moment

[fervent hearth]

🦌

[south zephyr]

Can I show you guys my current teams, gears, and ships so you can help me to make some presets?

I left the game for almost 1 year and that was enough to make me forget why I did each thing at that moment

[inner delta]

some are in the sub slot

[tame jungle]

Holy images

[soft raft]

Holy fuck use a thread next time

Esp if you were gonna include Gear screenshots as well

[polar venture]

what gear to throw away

[south zephyr]

Sorry I will delete it

[silk helm]

😂

[soft raft]

this is why we do threads, no one likes a ginormous block of images suddenly shoving up the convo

[sweet delta]

Holy fuck say it nicer next time
Esp when there's no rule for requiring threads

[coral folio]

wich stages should i farm for good gear ?

[sweet delta]

Operation siren

[tame jungle]

It’s not really worth it to farm for “good gear”

At least not campaign/WA, which i assume you’re referring to

[sweet delta]

If you're a new player just open tech packs and do pr4+ research

[coral folio]

what is pr4 ?

[soft raft]

you dont really farm campaign for gear
esp when tech boxes drop gear that's immideiately useable while campaign drops blueprints which you need to gather multiple of to craft it

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[coral folio]

i see thx

[south zephyr]

Help for PVE Team

[polar venture]

Is it worth using T3 tech packs?

[soft raft]

depends on what your gear situation is like
at one point, you'll just build up a backlog of them since you have no use for them and you cant merge them into gold crates

[polar venture]

Is the best way to get gear through the crates or opsi

[soft raft]

crates for early game
OpSi for mid/late game (Gear lab)

[hushed delta]

does this mean that Brest will stop helping Alsace proc?

[viscid swift]

no

[soft raft]

that just means that she counts as a Muse ship for some of the skills on Muse ships

[spice phoenix]

speaking of muse, which muse ships are worth investing in?

[hushed delta]

okay but she's still 🇫🇷 on the inside, cool

[soft raft]

At most Akagi Muse ig
but ultimately they're all heavily outclassed, plus they dont give any tech bonuses whatsoever

[stark quiver]

i heard noshiro U gud for some things
torp memes

[soft raft]

It's mostly just for torpmeme, lets be real

[coral folio]

where can i find these tech boxes ?

[coarse heron]

They just drop

[coral folio]

I am so stupid...

[sweet delta]

[coral folio]

thanks i meant but where i can find them when i have them until i just realized that there is a tab items in the depot

[reef flume]

"based on logistic stat" does it mean I get 69 rld bonus stat?

How does it work then?

[sweet delta]

No you don't get 69

/wiki meowffice

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Meowfficer
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Enter_the_Meowfficers!
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Eagle_(Meowfficer)

Oct 11, 2024, 8:59 PM

[sweet delta]

It has the 0.4% or 0.8%

[keen sable]

69 from a cat

[reef flume]

Uh... I think I am not understanding

[sweet delta]

Oscar in the wiki table says

Also increases their RLD by a moderate amount.

So 0.8% times 69 divided by 100 equals 0.552% more RLD

[trim sparrow]

You guys think kursk and gor will be ok to tank 12-4? Gonna use the middle row back to back minus avora to farm Nap

[sweet delta]

Kursk is made of paper but gorizia or really most ships can tank 12-4 with help or levels

Gorizia 100 should be able to tank without healing, but idk because I don't farm 12

[reef flume]

Ah... I see. Thx

[trim sparrow]

Got it, right on. Maybe ill just use a healer cv in kursk’s fleet

[fleet shard]

What is my best battleship fleet? I've been using fdg Ulrich and vanguard for a while, idk if it's outdated

I've been out of the loop on the game's meta

[sweet delta]

Just put Kursk in middle, not tank

[soft raft]

Out of the UR BBs you have (and assuming they're properly raised):
Musashi/Soyuz/Vanguard

[viscid swift]

just equip them well and you won't need a healer

[trim sparrow]

Im using 2 separate fleets to farm. Dont think anyone else in the middle could tank

[white agate]

tank is the front vanguard one

not the middle one

[trim sparrow]

Middle row i mean

[viscid swift]

Chapayev, Voroshilov, and Garibaldi are all perfectly capable of tanking with a reasonable enough fleets

and if you're insistent on using the boss fleet to farm then why not drop down to 12-1

[trim sparrow]

I was just about to ask about chappy i forgot whether she was tanky or glass cannon

[viscid swift]

I certainly wouldn't trust this on 12-4

[coarse heron]

If it was on Safe I’d be willing to yolo it and see what happens

Not on lethal though

[stoic tulip]

What do I have to do to unlock hard mode 13? 3 star all the standard stages?

[sweet delta]

3 star all of 13

[stoic tulip]

Foch meta rerun when?

[viscid swift]

no clue

[coarse heron]

Sometime between now and 2026.

[stoic tulip]

Just like the Yorktown rerun then. Although everyone knows musashi is next in queue

[soft raft]

not exactly
Foch META was a cruise pass ship, and so far we've had no news on how they plan on rerunning cruise pass META ships

Meanwhile York2 is a UR event in a regular event slot

also Musashi is the next UR event in line to rereun, but not the next event in line to rerun, there are two more to go before her

[sweet delta]

They're Already "rerunning" cruise metas...

[viscid swift]

Blaster, have you literally forgotten they added Fuso, Hiyo, and Junyo META to the META shop

it's not a case of how just when

[soft raft]

oh
thought it was just the crystals for limit breaks

granted I havent really paid much attention to them in a long while

[steep bobcat]

what chapter 13 hard node do you guys auto farm? and what fleet do you use to get an S clear?

[opaque galleon]

Is Washington’s new barrage any good at all?

[soft raft]

depends on what kind of BPs you need (X-1 for DD, X-2 for CL/CA, X-3 for BB/BC, and X-4 for CV/CVL)

As for comps, I mostly adapted my W15 fleets to a certain extent, but there's alot of ways to approach W13H depending on who you have in your dock

[sweet delta]

It's like 3 weak BB shells

[white agate]

are there events where its worth using stored oil or is it ok to just spend it?

[spring bolt]

very rare

the nearest one was yk2 event, farming for hvar

[forest palm]

[crude loom]

How's this gear on Cheshire so far?

The AA is just a substitute until I get Bofors

[soft raft]

decent enough for poverty but reconsider using her until she's at least D30

[forest palm]

Pompoms are shit an that radar is useless

[crude loom]

Like I said, the Pompoms are a substitute until I get the Bofors

....The radar I can probably change now, though

[forest palm]

there are many bofors, either way are you researching PR4? if so you may have a Twin 90 you could craft, which would be plain better, also give her a Improved Hydraulic Rudder, if you can't do that just a Hydraulic Steering Gear

[crude loom]

I don't have any of that....

Except for the steering gear, but I only have one, and Roon is using it

[forest palm]

the steering gear is blue so not hard to get

[crude loom]

Bet

Where can I get it?

[forest palm]

any gear box

[crude loom]

Ah

Let's go gear gambling!

[forest palm]

there's also naval camouflage that is blue and is basically the same thing that's also in the gear boxes

[crude loom]

Better?

[soft raft]

Sextuple or the Roomba would be better istead of the Hazemyer

[trim sparrow]

What gun does gor want?

[crude loom]

I don't have either of those at the moment, but noted

[soft raft]

huh?
Who tf is Gor

[trim sparrow]

Gorizia

[soft raft]

Nothing too different than regular CA setups, just that she uses a DD gun instead of a Torpedo in her secondary mount

[trim sparrow]

Alrite thanks

[undone plover]

can laffII, eldridge, shimanto work for ch15 mob?

does eldridge carry the 🦔

[sweet delta]

You can do
Laffey hedgehog main tank
Shimanto
Eldridge off tank

But I recommend Eldridge main tank with Aquila or Volga for science

[undone plover]

should I change anything?

[trim sparrow]

Alrite i auto this fleet on 12-4 and kept an eye on it, chappy was on the verge of dying on boss. Should i just switch her and kursk? Or give chappy 2 tool boxes?

[viscid swift]

no, give the main fleet better gear so they kill the boss faster

or you drop down to 12-1 where that fleet can tackle the boss much more easily

[sweet delta]

not Fs5 yet?

[undone plover]

also which CV do I use for boss fleet?
amagi, hakuryuu, indep
BB is alsace (or JN) and van is guam, jda, sandy

[sweet delta]

Rudder bulge shimanto, and it may be a little weak on AA but probably fine

[undone plover]

do u prefer amagi or indep? since amagi has no fighters

[sweet delta]

Amagi can do 3 fighters and 5 TBs

[undone plover]

oh wait i forgot she can carry fighters

~~i blame nagato META ~~

[trim sparrow]

Alrite go to 12-1, its still lethal but that should fine right?

[viscid swift]

no, get it down to safe and you're golden

[trim sparrow]

Whos the boss in 12-1 again?

[sweet delta]

Independence has cheaper gear requirements and cross fleet, while amagi and haku are tankier and punish heavy bosses harder and aren't too hard to stagger

[viscid swift]

Myoukou

[undone plover]

this is fine?

[sweet delta]

Sextuple sandy and it looks overkill did abdou die?

[undone plover]

this is for a guild mate abdou is in the gbf mines I presume
would u shift guam to mob then for better AA there?
brest is dev25 and other options are anchor/agir

[sweet delta]

At most switch sandy and shimanto but then the boss fleet may have weak aa

Solution get more rainbow AA

[undone plover]

I will stick with this (I like shimanto in mob )

+13 prio is for sextuple then roomba right?

skyrocket vs fw190 is the same for support fleet?

[cosmic palm]

Are there any ways to farm those Combat Data Packs for BP ships?

[sweet delta]

No and you shouldn't use them on building ships

Better to analyze them for protocore and buy gear blueprints

[urban spruce]

What does FP do? also what is Armor Mod. & What do the three numbers mean? Thank you!

[barren tapir]

fp is firepower and acts as a damage multiplier for gunnery damage

armor mod is the damage multiplier against different armor types. 70 is 70% etc

[sweet delta]

FP is added to your ship's FP stat

[barren tapir]

armor mods are listed in order of light, medium, heavy

[sweet delta]

This ammo does 70%, 100%, and 90% damage to light, medium, and heavy armor enemies respectively

And this gun is shit like all Normal Ammo BB guns

[urban spruce]

Kay, thank you! I just used this gun as an example

[coarse heron]

Genuinely which BBs should I use for BB fleet in OpSi I’ve been using NJ Marco Polo and Monarch so far but it doesn’t feel right

[sweet delta]

It shouldn't feel right

Who's mob

Because Marco and monarch both require flag

[coarse heron]

Mob is FdG with Aquila and Unicorn

[fervent hearth]

u could use for a backline Vittorio and Aquila/ uni

[sweet delta]

Who's vanguard of BB?

[fervent hearth]

for mob right

erm nvm

[coarse heron]

My mob fleet isn’t the problem it’s the BB fleet
BB vanguard was uhhh Azuma Helena and I just picked a third ship cause I’m not really sure how to do the BB fleet

[sweet delta]

There's NJ plus two of warspite duke Howe repulsem

[coarse heron]

CV fleet is a lot easier

[fervent hearth]

i guess its either on whatever u have best of kek

[undone plover]

usually it is agir, helena, plymouth
replace with alternatives if u dont have ply
sadly there is not a lot of alternatives to her

[coarse heron]

I don’t got Plymouth yet

[eager mulch]

you should got plymouth

[undone plover]

sushi suggested eldridge
you can try her if u raised her
if not just put your best ship there
anything that does decent dmg
vs light u can also use aurora I suppose but u dont usually build your BB fleet for a single armor type

[coarse heron]

No point finishing her yet I only got 250 prints even with catchup

[fervent hearth]

[coarse heron]

Yeah I got Eldridge Kai at 117 I could put her in there

Wait I’ll need a new CV fleet tank then

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[bold salmon]

is napoli a good replacement for agir in opsi?

[sweet delta]

Napoli trades armor break and an unreliable slow for more tankiness, and more tankiness than aegir's isn't useful in opsi currently

[coarse heron]

I forget Agir even has a slow I just use regular torps on her

[bold salmon]

got it thanks

[forest palm]

if say 2 CVs were to have identical launch times which would go first?

[bold salmon]

how much time is needed to activate the Homecoming Campaign?

[eager mulch]

I think it goes above flag/flag/below flag but don’t quote me on that

[soft raft]

like at least a month
not like it's worth deliberately going away from the game for it tho

[forest palm]

isn't the returnee's bonus like super inconsistent on triggering?

[eager mulch]

p sure I had a friend gone for 90 days and he didn’t get it

[forest palm]

small indie company, please understand

[barren tapir]

gacha in your campaigns :3

[stark quiver]

Around like half a year

Iirc, haven’t checked on my avorora acc for a minute

[grizzled sundial]

Is plane that is equipped by aviation BB weaker than the carrier one ?

[eager mulch]

depends

I’d say kear has better fighters than chkalov

[vale spindle]

remember that bbvs don't equip steam catapults, and actual carriers do

so you lose ~200 base avi which is a lot considering its applied before skills

granted kearsarge in particular has 200% fighter efficiency which makes up for it somewhat but yea

[eager mulch]

Sam hasn’t met my double +13 steam cata Kear yet

[little tree]

Is this cat a scrap cat or a usable cat

[stark quiver]

very bad

[frank pulsar]

vanguard cats kinda dont matter, focus on bb/cv/ss cats

[stark quiver]

DD cat = bad
ASW talent = bad
Faction talent = bricked
CV talent = bad

[eager mulch]

you’re = bad

but yeah using cats that buff vanguards over main fleet is kinda bad

[stark quiver]

wheres that smolmagi gun emote

[little tree]

Thats find I need cat space

[eager mulch]

[little tree]

To the woodchipper

[stark quiver]

:smolmagigun:

[forest palm]

emote theft is rather easy

[stark quiver]

ight here we go

[exotic wren]

It's blurred so invalid

[hazy marten]

is there a reason as to why en tierlist updates slower than cn? more players on cn side?

[little tree]

~~ en tier list keeper are lazy~~

[forest palm]

we don't run that tier list, they have a discord link on their site if you want to ask them directly

they'll of course probably just tell you they've been busy

[eager mulch]

is there a reason you expect people to value a tierlist over a tiddy bote game over their personal lives

[hazy marten]

cn ppl do i guess

[forest palm]

though I think ECTL hasn't updated since August

[eager mulch]

they’ve updated their prelims but you have to be in ectl to get that

riceist is in japan, Astrata is in a le malin bunny suit, I don’t think chiu or Yuni eval anymore, cia is cia

[little tree]

~~ they need to put amagi chan in n tier ~~

[eager mulch]

@feral ridge get burg’d

[feral ridge]

@eager mulch nah

[fervent hearth]

i know what kind of person you are

[feral ridge]

I don't know what you mean by that

[fervent hearth]

you know exactly what i mean ive seen what you have done

[feral ridge]

[fervent hearth]

[feral ridge]

[forest palm]

[sweet delta]

fewer players = faster to get things done

[vernal osprey]

I now have too much low rarity Augment modules in storage, how do you remove/disassemble those

[keen sable]

Feed them to each other

[vernal osprey]

I guess that works too, thanks

[forest palm]

it's the only way to discard general augment

[lone knoll]

how to know if a siren is light/med/heavy armor?

[sweet delta]

Turn off fleet lock and move to her

[lone knoll]

now what? where does it tell?

[sweet delta]

Maybe this is too minor a boss and didn't show a screen before your fleet

This one is light armor

[lone knoll]

maybe I'll just nuke her and see the final stronghold boss, maybe she has the screen youre saying

[lone knoll]

how can you tell? by her clothing?

[sweet delta]

I memorized most sirens

[spring bolt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Siren

[sweet delta]

And this stronghold invader is always the same enemy

[spring bolt]

you either memorize the armor type or check wiki

[lone knoll]

on wiki it does not say

[lone knoll]

oh so all light cruisers are light armor?

[forest palm]

@spring bolt who launches first when 2 CVs have identical launch times

[spring bolt]

for sirens, yes

[spring bolt]

iirc flag -> top -> bottom?

[forest palm]

alright, I have Amagi, and Imp launching with around the same time I assume that's fine?

Shinano will always chain 3rd in this

[spring bolt]

sounds fine, yeah
but let me try in CM...

[forest palm]

cool thanks

[spring bolt]

i don't have 2 carriers with exact same airstrikes so i slacked and used preloads
result is flag -> top -> bottom

[timid solar]

Guys is there a guide on which UR gear to get from lab first?

[sweet delta]

at least two wyvern

[timid solar]

is the UR bb gun worth getting?

[wind hazel]

yes but not before wyvern

[timid solar]

i got 2 or 3 wyvern already I think

[soft raft]

Which one
There's two UR BB guns in gear lab

[wind hazel]

get 1 or 2 457 then

[timid solar]

IDK which one is worth getting haha

[timid solar]

got it, thanks

[soft raft]

Eh I'd get a few UR DD guns and UR AA first

[wind hazel]

that's crazy

im sure 457 has bigger impact than a DD or AA gun

[timid solar]

which ship should I give the 457 to?

[soft raft]

Whoever is your mobbing BB

[wind hazel]

your mobbing BB

when you wanna push w13 onwards

[soft raft]

Honestly IJN Twin 410 works just fine for a mobbing gun

I only really used Twin 457 for W14+

[wind hazel]

i can say the same about DD or AA gun

harbin and roomba works fine

[timid solar]

Wiat, looks like I got 1 457 already, do I need more?

[wind hazel]

but which has bigger impact? which give better performance if they change? that's the question you should ask

[soft raft]

Not really

[timid solar]

nvm I got two

[soft raft]

There's really no need to have more than at most 2

[timid solar]

is the other UR gun worth getting?

[wind hazel]

mk7 has lower priority

[soft raft]

406 Mk7 is a direct upgrade over the 406 Mk6 but it's pretty low prio

[sweet delta]

a +10 mk7 gives your typical UR BB about 8% more damage than a +10 purple mk6

[eager mulch]

other UR gun is very specific

[frank pulsar]

what about +13 mk7 against +11 mk6

[timid solar]

Ah ok, is the prototype spearfish any good?

[sweet delta]

108% * 118% / 104%

[soft raft]

On paper yes
In practice, only if you can afford to cough up the price, and even then it's not strictly required

[plain saffron]

isn't it also good on practice on specific boss(just like other planes)

[frank pulsar]

so ~23% difference?

[timid solar]

so this is my UR gears, should I be getting the spearfish? or maybe a dd gun or AA?

or more wyverns?

[frank pulsar]

imho get like one more wyvern, then get spearfish
also dont +13 mobbing equips like bomb fighters and parallel torp bombers (im looking at your wyvern)

[timid solar]

haha ok, thanks for the reminder

[wind hazel]

where do you guys even use spearfish?

[viscid swift]

everywhere pretty much

[wind hazel]

worth it?

[viscid swift]

only if you have no pressing other uses for T2 and T3 ordinance reports

and bearing in mind Tenrai is due in a few months plus at least one more piece of nre UR gear probably that will take unknown resources

[sweet delta]

I use spearfish to delete temperance

[timid solar]

how do I get more of this? XD

[sweet delta]

And just normal farm mobbing

[timid solar]

Ah ok

I have just enough to make 1 spearfish and 1 wyvern

[lyric stump]

which one most worth lv 120 (tech

[viscid swift]

Have you got something in mind as to what you're actually gonna use them for

Done just craft gear for the sake of it especially with a gear lab update in a few months

[late flame]

just save until you actually need to craft ye

[wind hazel]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/ sort by CA, FP

and EVA. but i forgot who is EVA among those

[viscid swift]

Brennuss is EVa tech

Heinrich, Adalbert, Chikuma, and Pittsburgh are FP tech

[late flame]

i'd do CA eva first yeah

[lyric stump]

ty

[stark quiver]

how long has it been since u used them 💀

[quartz jungle]

Is tech priority for CA is Eva > Rld > FP > TRP > AA > HP?

[sweet delta]

Rld is below fp

[quartz jungle]

Oh I forgot Hit so Eva > Hit > FP > Rld > TRP > AA > HP?

[viscid swift]

FP above hit

[timid solar]

Nope, I just want shiny stuff now XD

[wind hazel]

do you guys prioritize rld or trp after done with eva fp?

[sweet delta]

Hit is better than fp for Unzen but worse for gun only CAs

[viscid swift]

I did Hit first and after that I'm doing torp

[forest palm]

TRP last for me

[thorny bay]

who's the other 2 vanguards for shinano / amagi/ implacable + kazagumo?
a combination of Bristol / Sirius / Aurora / Eldridge?

[viscid swift]

For what exactly

[sweet delta]

Depends on the boss, and Bristol is manual only

[thorny bay]

opsiren ig?

[forest palm]

Cruiser EVA, FP, RLD, Hit, TRP is the order I've worked with

[viscid swift]

The usual Guam and Sirius

[sweet delta]

Aurora is the best for any boss fleet this month

[thorny bay]

eldridge more for campaign rather than single bosses? or equally effective if you want to run glasss cannon vanguards for bosses

[timid solar]

If I don't have shinano, who can I use for implac+Amagi team?

[viscid swift]

Eldridge is for when you need your vanguard to live longer

[stark quiver]

haku

[sweet delta]

Eldridge has a consistent slow so is good too when you don't have Bisz or a freeze

[thorny bay]

can i copy someone's homework on their opsrein fleets?
mob / cv / bb / crossfleet?

[stark quiver]

everyones are different to a certent extent

[timid solar]

Haku better than yorktown 2/Kearsarge?

[late flame]

opsi is pretty much
1.mob fleet
2.bb
3.cv
4.cross fleet (or if you are as lazy as i am, anti-light cv fleet)

[sweet delta]

Depends on the boss

[signal fog]

so i have run out of cog chip and i guess i gonna try w15, let say i have all the ship except latest 2 DR ship. any improvement for this ?
mob w15
unicorn - musashi - aquila
eldridge kai - laffey II - guam

boss w15
perseus - alsace - implac (?)
san diego kai - shimanto - Brest (?)

[sweet delta]

Perseus is good only for 15-4 second boss

Boss vanguard also looks a little weak so switch brest and Guam

[signal fog]

who should i switch perseus to ?

how about the placement is it correct already ?

[sweet delta]

Any rainbow cv

[signal fog]

no need healer for boss fleet ?

[sweet delta]

Musashi and Alsace flag, Guam tank, and for mob any of Eldridge laffii or brest can main tank

[deft wraith]

I got Dunkerque. Is she good?

[viscid swift]

No

[signal fog]

aight will try, thanks

[sweet delta]

how did you get dunk

[deft wraith]

The one with four barrels?

[viscid swift]

There's only one Dunkerque

[deft wraith]

Instead getting Richelieu I got Dunkerque instead.

[viscid swift]

Yeah don't pull on bloody heavy or special ever

[deft wraith]

Oh okay and that's a bad idea.

[viscid swift]

It's a bad idea because there's very few ships that are actually worth bothering to pull on them in the first place

And event pools are literally either the heavy or special pool with the event ships added in so with events you're double dipping in effect

Just do one light pull a day when there's no event

[deft wraith]

It's Painful to see my Wisdom Cubes. Disappearing any second

[deft wraith]

Alright and I'll try. 👍

[soft dagger]

Who else has a gun requirement besides JB, KGV, Musashi, Gangut, and Littorio?

[viscid swift]

No one of note and frankly most of those aren't even worth following the requirements anyway

[soft dagger]

thx

[robust shadow]

Anyone can help build a team to be able to smoothly auto Nagato META?
This is my dock: https://imgur.com/a/itSThGr

[hollow gust]

Most of the good ones are in perm

[late flame]

gotta get to 400/400 for dupe amirite

[coarse heron]

Also the heavy pool is used for 99% of events anyway

[viscid swift]

Musashi, NJ, Vanguard, Drake, Helena, Yuudachi

[sharp socket]

is yuudachi actually good

[viscid swift]

There's better but they don't have many options

[sweet delta]

not the best at anything

[sharp socket]

not 125 oath emden?

i thought emden was good cl dps

[stark quiver]

not enough to 125 and oath

[signal pollen]

Is this worth or bait?

[spring bolt]

have you finished hind dev 30?

[signal pollen]

No

[spring bolt]

just dew it

[stark quiver]

then sure

[signal pollen]

Okay. Thank you

[stark quiver]

5 cubes isnt much anyways

[signal pollen]

Days worth of salary

[late flame]

above 400 cubes is ok

[sharp socket]

im saying its already 125 oath

[stark quiver]

i see

[viscid swift]

Powercreep and a heavy armor boss aren't doing her any favors

[sharp socket]

powercreep?

[timid solar]

did i miss vanguard rerun or not yet?

[storm heron]

just slap ply to replace emden

[sharp socket]

no ply for him

[storm heron]

Is Daisen good for obtain?

[wind hazel]

+2 fp

[blissful hamlet]

You missed

[wet badge]

do i get kear or wait for ijn tech and get haku (

[spring bolt]

doesn't matter, getting the ship is easy and what matters is getting the prints

[lofty zodiac]

There is some ijn tech in pr1

[wet badge]

i alr have like 220 ish prints for haku

[boreal temple]

It's better to have a research always running than waiting for someone specific

[boreal temple]

You won't be able to use her till d30 so no reason to rush

[coarse heron]

In theory since she has all her planes at Dev25, you could use her then you would be losing 5% plane efficiency instead.
Would be interesting to see if she’s better than SSR carriers with efficiency missing.

[boreal temple]

Would be hard to sync her that's the biggest issue back when I did try using her >d30

[tender python]

Is azumas fate sim 5 important?

[spring bolt]

haku is, kind of less important due to amagi, but triple rainbow ijn cvs are still the best choice for current meta
kear is good if you have yk2, one of the top choices for light/med emenies

[coarse heron]

You’ll get it eventually anyway

[boreal temple]

It's coinable so you'll end up getting it anyway

[coarse heron]

Get FdG’s first

[inner delta]

you aren't only losing 5% efficiency, you are also losing tech avi, hit and rld

[jaunty blaze]

Guys, hello to all. Please tell me. What ships can be formed in a fleet? I just don't know how to make a good surface fleet (Sorry for a lot of screenshots and my English is bad)

[jaunty vault]

it is, for azuma

[inner delta]

which is massive if you actually want to do any meaningful sync

[coarse heron]

Oh yeah I forgot only Dev30 PR ships get fleet tech

[boreal temple]

At the end of the day >d30 is still a non mlb ship and afaik non mlb = don't use

[jaunty vault]

thats the parrot logic

[coarse heron]

I’d say all of the PR tanks are usable at 25

[boreal temple]

Well we're talking about backline

Meatshields are meatshield

[storm heron]

I'd say d25 cvs are usable

[coarse heron]

If you can sync them

[jaunty vault]

being usable is subjective

[inner delta]

i mean they are but gl not having the rld tech

[tender python]

Should I change the main gun on her to another one after I get it? Currently using triple 310 on her

[jaunty vault]

depends on what you're fighting

but most of the time, yes

[tender python]

As in just in general, too lazy to change it every time

[boreal temple]

I mean I used them below d30 to level them up

[spring bolt]

for level farming, dev 0 is enough

[coarse heron]

Is AvP the first ship to actually need FS5 to be useful?
Cause she feels pretty forgettable before then

[jaunty vault]

yeah use the alaska/kron/agir gun on her for "general" use

again, usable/useful is subjective
need is also subjective

but FS5 did make a huge impact on avp

she was still a great CV before that

[storm heron]

d25 nakh + 1 might cook better than avp + 1

[jaunty vault]

depends on a lot of factors

[zenith locust]

Which one should I craft first? Nj's ur gun or wyvern?

[boreal temple]

Wyvern if you don't have any yet

NJ can survive with mk6 and champy

She doesn't need mk7 necessarily

[young coyote]

Which CV should I use in normal mode, PVP, Boss raid?

[boreal temple]

First of all those DB suck

Rip gold plates

[rapid grail]

pvp, nah. Cv bad now (source: am pvper)

boss raid? Usable I guess

[young coyote]

Is it good for light armor boss?

[rapid grail]

Yea they're both good at antilight

[boreal temple]

Just make sure you're geared accordingly

[young coyote]

Ok

[stark quiver]

i mean you get the idea
but thats said the dbs are bad

[young coyote]

Ok,so Which one bomber I will use to replace DBS

[boreal temple]

Purple helldivers are way better than those

[zenith locust]

are they better than goldivers?

[rapid grail]

Skyraider (light, medium), Tenrai (medium, heavy)
Golddivers, Helldivers

Niche content use Suisei 12a for timing, plus 2 more ig

Look no further

[boreal temple]

Unless you invest a lot in golddivers for a unnoticeable difference

[storm heron]

once you have resouce to do so, tenrai will be craftable

rip gold plates

[rapid grail]

Better than golddivers in terms of availability.

Golddivers need 120 gold plane plates for +13 enhance to overtake +11 enhance Helldivers. Not that much of an improvement

Plus it demands highly sought after OpSi materials better used for other gear instead of Golddivers

People don't like it because it basically slows down your progression with Gear Lab stuff

Don't forget the scarcity of Gold plates as well

[zenith locust]

so. unless I have a lot of materials I shouldn´t craft them?

[boreal temple]

Even if you have a surplus of mats don't do it

Those circuits are better of used on other stuff

[rapid grail]

Other gear will provide more value than Golddivers ever will

[young coyote]

Is it good or not?

[storm heron]

[boreal temple]

Just do purple helldivers

[rapid grail]

look at the amount of gears that use gold rarity electronics

[boreal temple]

We were literally just talking about golddivers being not worth

[storm heron]

that's a bad representation

[young coyote]

😅

[storm heron]

since not all gears there are worth crafting

[young coyote]

I feel confused

[storm heron]

but point still stands, gold electronics rare

[boreal temple]

I didn't even know half of those are using circuits simply because I don't craft them

[stark quiver]

use the purple helldiver
end of discussion

[young coyote]

Ok

[storm heron]

is it even worth +11?

iirc they said not to +11 purp gears

[boreal temple]

I do have like 2 at +11 but I don't recommend it

[storm heron]

It's 6% increase for a transitional equipment that doesn't even contribute much when it matters in the hardest contents

[boreal temple]

Just save for +13 tenrai

[civic crag]

Worth using core for tech box?

[south sequoia]

Nah

Gear plate consumption and gold plate consumption

[rapid grail]

Yes, and even if you suddenly want the plates back for something else then just craft a Golddiver and get back all your plates.

[south sequoia]

Oh right

[zenith locust]

And between these gears, which one should I craft first?

[boreal temple]

I should do this

[south sequoia]

I forgot golddivers craft from helldivers

[storm heron]

wait that's actually big brain

[boreal temple]

I don't think you should craft any of those yet

[stark quiver]

wyverns first

[zenith locust]

why?

[boreal temple]

Do you have like 2-3 wyverns already?

[zenith locust]

only 1 by now

[boreal temple]

Then focus on wyverns

And I wouldn't use blanks on those

[storm heron]

nowadays you can get a free wyvern on the second month when opsi reset

[stark quiver]

get 2 more at least
then we can see what to go on from there

[rapid grail]

can get one 457mm, one Drake gun from protocore shop btw. Though you'll need a shit ton of protocores

[boreal temple]

I'd craft them if I had enough of their UR prints

[rapid grail]

Like 3,000 to buy all 50 prints and you'll want to get both

[boreal temple]

I suggest getting the tenrai first and foremost tho

[rapid grail]

Plus the Tenrai too

+11 purple gears are worth if:

• They're just that good (twin 410, mk6, Helldiver);
• Can get your gold plate investments back by crafting in Gear Lab (Helldiver -> Golddiver, 406mk6 -> 406mk7)
• Niche applications e.g. timing gear like Beacons, AVI Manjuus, etc.

[stark quiver]

~~+11 autoloader ~~

[lean tendon]

Yesss

🤣I got 2 of dem thangs

[rapid grail]

doesn't hurt having one at +11 just in case

[boreal temple]

You know gph got you when you have autoloaders from +0 to +11

[stark quiver]

oh i have a few

[storm heron]

ayo what autoloader

[lean tendon]

What are you gois doing for opsi fleets

I think I should upgrade, my mob dies lol

[storm heron]

soy uvh uni guam sandy ply

[boreal temple]

Can you show us fleet

[storm heron]

works without any rainbows and soyuz using beaver tag and fairy magic poster

[lean tendon]

My tops too squishy

[storm heron]

replace percy with a bb or a half load cv

[rain vine]

swap perseus for someone who will actually do damage

[storm heron]

also what is that vanguards

at least use a main tank

[rain vine]

just use portland

[lean tendon]

Yee that's my flex slot I was in the middle of trying to see the difference between aquilla, Percy and independence who wacks faster

[boreal temple]

Move kron to mob

[lean tendon]

Noshiro tank lol

[storm heron]

they work the same but your vanguard is the problem, not bulky enough

[boreal temple]

Replace persy and move kron to mob that's all you have to do and mob should be able to survive

[rain vine]

aquila is a secondary healer
indep is a damage dealer

[storm heron]

someone might die against stronghold

[boreal temple]

I'd say move uvh to persy slot and move kron or unzen to noshiro slot

[lean tendon]

Not if you run a dive bomber she's not 😅

[boreal temple]

It'll be a hassle but it's not bad swapping to a boss fleet before the fight

[storm heron]

I mean it seems like your fleet is good enough to the point you can use 1 fleet for literally everything but arbiter

[lean tendon]

Hey, unzen Harbin are still solid yeah?

[storm heron]

like if you replace yt2 with unicorn there, it is basically my mob fleet

[boreal temple]

Tbh if you wanna just bruteforce it and call it quits I'd put musashi as mob flag and do either aquila uni or uni uvh then do unzen tank

Just change fleet whenever you're gonna fight harbiter

You'll be playing it auto with just your mob 90% of the time anyway so just fix it when you need to use boss fleets

[storm heron]

musashi aquila uni guam unzen lafii and you will never die against anything, only switch fleet when you harbiter

[lean tendon]

Lol, that sounds good to me,

What would a mobbing boss fleet look like if there was one?

[boreal temple]

Better make it a habit it'll make your life easier than trying to make all 4 fleets strong only to use 1 fleet for the entire month after you clear harbi

[lean tendon]

Mmmm I have a stupid question, can I make a fleet with jus cross bragging ships?

[storm heron]

sure you can have 18 of them cross barrages

[boreal temple]

If you meant cross fleet yea that's literally my fleet 2-4

[lean tendon]

Cause my light armor carrier dream is just a dream

[rain vine]

thats usually what people do with the 4th fleet

[lean tendon]

No fancy anti light planes the print drops were non exsistent to my account

[boreal temple]

Just gather as much useful cross fleets you have and slam them on a fleet you will never use and viola

[storm heron]

it's voila

[boreal temple]

You'll survive I only have like 2 hvars and I manage

[lean tendon]

1

1 doesn't do sh it

[storm heron]

just equip rocket fighters as much as possible lol

[soft dagger]

use bb and aurora

[lean tendon]

🥲

[boreal temple]

There's always rocket planes too

[storm heron]

where's your kearsoup anyways

[lean tendon]

So make?

[storm heron]

only make when you need it

[lean tendon]

No hab, was stuck in pr 2 lol

[storm heron]

hold up what

[boreal temple]

You don't have the bf109 I think don't remember gear names it's been a while

[lean tendon]

Lemme try to make a fleet and roast it, cause it's probably terrible lmao

[storm heron]

just slap all the fighter slot with la-9

[lean tendon]

What's that?

[storm heron]

like use 5 of them and it would be fine

[boreal temple]

would that even sync

[lean tendon]

What is it tho?

[stark quiver]

probably not

[boreal temple]

[storm heron]

I mean no one tried it yet

[wind hazel]

[rain vine]

season 7 rainbow gear

[storm heron]

anyways people should have 2 la9s by now

or not

[boreal temple]

[crimson glacier]

are you insane?

[soft dagger]

that's a new UR fighter in season 7, don't do it. you'll do just fine with bf109 like tomato said
you'll only see prob 1% damage diff against light

[wind hazel]

1.5 at most

[lean tendon]

Lol I don't even have 1

[crimson glacier]

i swear you say nothing but bullshit here

[boreal temple]

You know it's bonkers if torva reacts like this

[lean tendon]

Sounds like he got luck sacks to me

[rain vine]

no, hes just trolling
with rainbow gear print drops being what they are, you wont even have 2

[soft dagger]

anyway, put your dock and gear in a thread
tomato will help you

[lean tendon]

You guys gonna laugh at me 🤣

Cringe central

[rain vine]

no one cares enough to take it that seriously
we've seen some absolute garbage

[stark quiver]

not much to laugh abt if u really want to get better
its if the entire gph tries to help you and then you get hardstuck 11-3

[boreal temple]

This is normal in gph we've been through plenty of bad fleets including mine

[lean tendon]

Gph?

[storm heron]

it's short for gameplay help

[lean tendon]

Oooo, my brain slow sorry

Gimme a second, trying to figure out how I should take the screenshots 😅

Jus sort by rarity or?

[sinful elk]

Chat which one is better as bb aux

[boreal temple]

Sort by vanguard and mainfleet

[boreal temple]

For suiboat defense the 155kai is good

[storm heron]

Huh I thought they said 155kai only in 14

[crimson glacier]

why would it be bad elsewhere if its good in 14

[sinful elk]

I saw on ectl that the twin 150mm does better job than 155

[storm heron]

[boreal temple]

Not sure tbh since I kinda took a break after pr6 dropped but 155kai is definitely tried and tested

[wind hazel]

155kai has higher spread

[wind hazel]

155kai is only better at w14, because of its spread

[storm heron]

this was the conversation

[boreal temple]

Ahhhh ig I should craft a few of those too

[storm heron]

[wind hazel]

plygun>137>155>yadayada

if suicide boat isn't an issue then use whichever has higher FP

[soft dagger]

it's the range pretty much

[wind hazel]

ye, conclusion is, use plygun

[storm heron]

so like slap all cl gun slot with plygun??

[stark quiver]

yea
granted you have them

[wind hazel]

for BB that can use CL gun, that's pretty much it

[storm heron]

yea peolpe should have 2 plyguns by now

[wind hazel]

pvp another story 🫃🏼

[sinful elk]

Chat can my fleets fight w14 now

[storm heron]

is that helena and regular laffey?

[wind hazel]

need to rearrange them why BB and CV fleet

[sinful elk]

yes

[stark quiver]

no

[storm heron]

idk about the 3 cv fleet too

swap indep and alsace

[jaunty vault]

yeah that's dead

[stark quiver]

youre not making it past mob ill say that

[sinful elk]

[stark quiver]

kick helena and get more survivability in boss

[storm heron]

None of Jervis's sur skill is active

[still nest]

Any Vichya and Iris Libre ships here?

[sinful elk]

Which one doe

[lean tendon]

Image dump complete

[storm heron]

yeah I think you should stay at 12-4

Unless somehow bremmerton and brennus can do w14

[wind hazel]

there's l'opioariuatriw4tre, idk her spelling

L'Opiniâtre

[storm heron]

la galissionere?

[lean tendon]

That depends, do you have 125 subs with gud gear to carry you, cause it's cancer without built subs

[still nest]

Oh her? I assume she's Iris Libre ship?

[storm heron]

idk how subs gonna help when that's all the vanguard they have

[stark quiver]

thats the least of their problems

[boreal temple]

I full lethal brute forced my way through w14 with no subs

[wind hazel]

yes Iris

[boreal temple]

Just good gear with gph is enough for w14

[still nest]

How about vichya?

[storm heron]

I forgot to use subs

[sinful elk]

I forgot my subs exist

[lean tendon]

I have skill issue so subs help with out of ammo fights, cause by some stroke of unluck I always got 3 star nodes

[boreal temple]

Wat was the updated fleet builder site again

[soft dagger]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[wind hazel]

none from guild, but there's from merit and core data

and medal

[polar venture]

What kind of rewards do you get for interacting with TB?

[sinful elk]

How though!!

[lean tendon]

Well remember lol, they nice to have in late game if you aren't loaded with rainbows out the ass

[frank pulsar]

good fleets and equips

[still nest]

Where can I search the whole ship data ?

[boreal temple]

And overplanning for like at least a month before actually clearing

[frank pulsar]

you dont need subs for any content, they just help make up for bad equips/ships

[stark quiver]

a secretary
thats kinda all

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Guild_Shop

[boreal temple]

I think you were there soup when cheeky and ren were helping me with w14

[frank pulsar]

was i?

[lean tendon]

Ooo, question, which crodsfleet barrages are actually gud?

[wind hazel]

/crossfleet

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[lean tendon]

Cause my fight ends before 20 seconds usually

[boreal temple]

Dunno been like half a year since then but I think you were going for harbi oneshot back then

[wind hazel]

read the bottom part

[lean tendon]

Oooo, I see, the notes are so tiny, thanks for pointing it out

@wind hazel don't suppose you have one for pvp shop? I keep missing albacore 🥲

[wind hazel]

what?

[stark quiver]

no , there isnt a command for pvp shop
everything is random, js check in from time to time

[wind hazel]

/pvp

[stark quiver]

[wind hazel]

had to test it out

[storm heron]

[plain saffron]

technically not fully random

[lean tendon]

I wanna buy albacore from the pvp shop, but I never see her

[plain saffron]

she needs to fight other SR for the spot

[blissful berry]

I ran out of space, how do i get rid of them?

[stark quiver]

Feed the blue ones to purples or put some on random ships

[plain saffron]

feed to other augments

feed bad blue, upgrade good blue

[lean tendon]

No havar light fleet?

[lean tendon]

Feed lower rarity to other ones,don't think you can feed gold ones tho

[jaunty vault]

you can feed any augment as long as it's not equipped

also stop making augments you're not gonna equip

[coarse heron]

bro spending the GDP of Zimbabwe on augments

[lean tendon]

Lmao

They probably don't have the event ships MLB to equip them

Most of my collab aren't MLB lol

[blissful berry]

I did it :D thank you

[hollow gust]

This is so cursed

[plain saffron]

25 did you also feed the good ones?

[lean tendon]

Well only 1 hvar soooo

@hollow gust so cross fleet?

[hollow gust]

What?

[stark quiver]

Where’s all the purple

[lean tendon]

Am asking what should I do about it? Use cross fleet instead?

[inland shoal]

Wdym use crossfleet instead?

[polar venture]

If im using alsace for my mobbing ship am I wasting my resources on FDG?

[inland shoal]

Eh I wouldn't say so. It's only coins anyway

[boreal temple]

Crossfleet isn't that strong to rely on it

[storm heron]

depends on what resources you mean, at the very least FdG is worth 120 eventually. If you have better ships then sure you can do her later, but make sure you keep that coining going for cheap blueprints

[boreal temple]

It helps and is convenient but it's not your main source of dmg

[inland shoal]

At any rate your Enty is launching before your Yk2 which is the opposite of what you want. Also why are you using Sirius over an ARA and why do you have a purple Helldiver at +11 and a Goldiver at +10 and what are those vg AAs

[boreal temple]

Pretty clueless about gear and syncing, needs a bit of help with that part

And his gears are quite a mess too

[strange sphinx]

what's the Opsi boss rn?

[inland shoal]

Harbiter

[strange sphinx]

welp

Give me fleet, Thorin

[frank pulsar]

shld be the light armour jellyfish this time iirc, but idk whats her mods this month

[polar venture]

How many cubes do I need to make sure I can get at least 1 UR?

400?

[inland shoal]

400

[strange sphinx]

the ultra hard pity

[boreal temple]

Oh no its jelly fish?

I haven't finished my 3rd mk7

[strange sphinx]

Can you give Anti light fleet

[storm heron]

It's the light armor boss with a medium jellyfish spawn

[blissful berry]

Fed the gold ones

[boreal temple]

What 2nd aux do you guys run with ply other than washingmachine

[blissful berry]

Gone :D

[frank pulsar]

just use kear yorkii implac with aurora, and triple ur bb with mk6/mk7

[frank pulsar]

albion report, toolkit, rpg interface, cyanin towel, goldburn

[plain saffron]

[frank pulsar]

thats all the ones i rmb off the top my head for defensive ones, might be more

[strange sphinx]

idk about Auroa

[storm heron]

what about the fp and hit thing, fumo?

[boreal temple]

Aurora is a light armor support so you'd definitely want her

[plain saffron]

DD/CL

[frank pulsar]

read the lower message

[strange sphinx]

is she shop or

[lean tendon]

I donno, this is what happens when I'm left to cook fleets 😓

[strange sphinx]

welp

[plain saffron]

wait for wishing well

[strange sphinx]

yeah

[plain saffron]

or get lucky on daily pull

[boreal temple]

Must've accidentally retired her huh since she's purple

[inland shoal]

Just use Sirius or sth in the meantime

[frank pulsar]

why do you have like no proper tanks

[strange sphinx]

[frank pulsar]

oh theyre lv100

[strange sphinx]

What are the proper tanks

[frank pulsar]

get yr eugen and portland to lv120

[boreal temple]

3 mk7+fcr should naturally sync with helena right?

[inland shoal]

Aurora was literally the last perm ship I got

[wind hazel]

they are there

[frank pulsar]

wait im blind i didnt see the anchor and agir

[storm heron]

CB or CA with very high ehp pool

[boreal temple]

That's fkin unfortunate

[frank pulsar]

i need to more

[storm heron]

[frank pulsar]

enty yorkii impladc ancho an shan yuudachi
musashi alsace nj agir shima(?) unzen

[kind needle]

should I consider going pr6 when all that's remaining is Ruppy and Brest?

[frank pulsar]

pls lv120 or lv125 yr helena
and also do more research for more tanks

[atomic abyss]

get brest, skip 6 and go to 7
esp if you dont have a plygun

[polar venture]

What do you think about my formations? Dock also attached

[boreal temple]

I can reset harbiters right

[hollow gust]

[kind needle]

so, 1 plygun enough or no?

[frank pulsar]

wdym by reset? you cant leave and save its hp if thats what youre thinking

[atomic abyss]

1 from pr5, another from protocore

[boreal temple]

I mean like fight it all over again

[frank pulsar]

you can

[kind needle]

who are the only good in pr6?

[hollow gust]

Tenrai goldiver and helldiver are close enough , it's not hard to replicate

[inland shoal]

What's wrong with Guam tho? Or did you just have this fleet at hand anyway
And if using Guam I'd guess the Sexy goes to her

[hollow gust]

That's what I had on hand lol

[atomic abyss]

shimanto, kears and hindy
but kears and hindy are less important than ply/brest/napoli/nakh

hindy gun is also not as high prio as la-9

[hollow gust]

Significantly

Napoli and Nahk are all side grades of existing ships , it's the season in general that's more worth , not the DRs

[frank pulsar]

pr6 > pr7 imho, for kear
la-9 also not that important anyway

[atomic abyss]

napoli is the best tank in the game

the gears in 7 are better

[hollow gust]

And that matters how? Napoli is a flat sidegrade to all existing tanks

[atomic abyss]

la-9 is definitely more impactful than hinden gun

[frank pulsar]

agir and anchor work fine, kear is a great ship to have for both bb and cv fleets

[hollow gust]

Hell for endgame worlds rather run Guam and Brest

[kind needle]

the only pr6 I have is kear and is d30 alr (Also got 1 hindgun)

[atomic abyss]

kears is overrated to begin with

[hollow gust]

[frank pulsar]

no shes underrated as hell wdym

[hollow gust]

If kear is overrated then Napoli is shit and nahk is niche

[strong tartan]

who is kears must be new

[inland shoal]

It mattered for Michita

[frank pulsar]

kearsarge, DR from pr6

[kind needle]

is d26 ply functionable as a buffer?

[strong tartan]

ya

[storm heron]

[atomic abyss]

buffer ofc
she gets her tankiness by then and skills were never an issue constrained by dev levels

dps, well not till 30

[storm heron]

pretty sure ply is kinda better than most statstick cl before 30

[atomic abyss]

the best CLs have DPS in addition to excellent support/AA usually

[hollow gust]

Helena and Aurora

[strange sphinx]

I'm working on it

[kind needle]

W14 Clear and OpSi fleetbuilf help

[wind hazel]

hinden gun better than drake on Unzen for nugget?

[atomic abyss]

iirc they are joint best for heavy

[strange sphinx]

OPSI mob fleet

[frank pulsar]

drake gun is 2% better on heavy just use whichever is +13

[wind hazel]

both +13

[frank pulsar]

drek gun then

[wind hazel]

what's the average damage from unzen you guys getting if using triple IJN CV

[atomic abyss]

decent tech one shd be excess of 200k

[strange sphinx]

hmmm help me in Opsi Mob fleet, I know any Mob fleet works but I really need good Mob fleet in Opsi And Idk how to build one, seriously

[atomic abyss]

i only get 160-180k usually cos my tech is ass

why do you even need such a good mob fleet in opsi

[strange sphinx]

like I said, Idk how to build a Fleet

[hollow gust]

260k

That’s against Nagato meta ofc

[wind hazel]

this is so ass

what loadout are you using

oh are you using with mogador?

[spring bolt]

165k is normal if double survival aux

[atomic abyss]

mog does increase her damage significantly if timed right

[wind hazel]

this was with torp and fumo 😂

but eldridge kaza unzen

[soft dagger]

i think that's about right for oneshots

[dusk maple]

stopped using her, eldridge/mogador/kazagumo works way better for me.

[boreal temple]

Can I see setup?

[dusk maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/811611113556410388/1289503025760571392/image.png?ex=670b83c7&is=670a3247&hm=fce1aec606f128f49b270782e96551a0c52800ad85f63bf5982a369dfde723a3& +20 rld cuz no oath. i think oathed fleet needs +10

[boreal temple]

Thankies

[polar venture]

Does amagi really want an augment? If so what augment?

[lean tendon]

Who do i build for ch 15?

[frank pulsar]

augment not that important
for amagi cv always use scepter, for regular amagi use sword

[atomic abyss]

/w15 read the guide listed here

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[boreal temple]

People use regular amagi??

[spring bolt]

usable for 15-2

[turbid latch]

I mean blue steam catapults, is it also good? because I don't have any purple and purple oil tanks

[lean tendon]

Thankyous

[lean tendon]

Lol I did, before cv came

[lean tendon]

How?

Don't they drop in a low campaign stage?

[hollow gust]

The copium

[turbid latch]

oh, I forgot to open gearboxes now I have some of them but still not enough

should I compose white to blue and blue to purple? (gearbox)

anyw, @ Taz made me a fleet comp for boss and mob. is it okay to replace Pennsylvania with Vittorio?

I just got her earlier, he said that Hood is also great too but I don't have her

[hollow gust]

That's a good replacement

Vittorio is a better investment then hood at this point

[spring bolt]

level some IB ships for FDG

[turbid latch]

IB? FDG?

[spring bolt]

iron blood, German ships
fdg is pr2 rainbow BB, she will carry you for a very long time

[lean tendon]

Always

[rapid grail]

yes as long as you can keep up with gold bulin spending on your ships

[lean tendon]

Don't forget her augment, takes out her gun restriction 😃

[hollow gust]

[lean tendon]

Dat face says it all

[hollow gust]

?????

[rapid grail]

I don't remember Vittorio Veneto having an unique Augment module

[wind hazel]

she doesn;t

[hollow gust]

Vittorio doesn't have augment , and hood's augment has nothing to do with gun restrictions

[lean tendon]

Came out a while back, the rose augment

[turbid latch]

i retired 10+ gold bulins for the golden retrofits on the shop

[inland shoal]

That is Littorio

And Littorio is bad

[storm heron]

Littorio is littoriolly littor

[rapid grail]

Retrofits that you did are good at least

from what I see in your choices. Did Taz tell you which ships to retrofit as well?

[wind hazel]

entire purpose of using those retrofit ships is because you're limited by gold bulin for better ships

[hollow gust]

[turbid latch]

I don't have anything to retrofit rn, he said that I should focus on my pr ship (ibuki)

[coarse heron]

All carriers without a specific augment for them get the scepter, afaik

[wind hazel]

so never ever retire gold bulins again

[rapid grail]

okay good. Also save your bulins of all rarities when needed, it'll help a lot

[lean tendon]

Lol I wish I had that many I can retire

[crude fable]

Laffey and z23 which once is better to retrofit?

[lean tendon]

I Ned 2 ur bulins! Where can I get

[steep bobcat]

is there a rough rerun schedule for the newer events? I.e. ~1 yr between 1st run and rerun?

[hollow gust]

Pick your favorite

[inland shoal]

More like 2

[spring bolt]

not much difference between og laffey and z23, pick the one you like better

[steep bobcat]

thanks

[atomic abyss]

at least 2 year for rerun, another year for perma

[lean tendon]

Straight fp, z23, utility Laffey bun

[atomic abyss]

specialised core shop

[storm heron]

utility?

[hollow gust]

Talking out of his ass

[spring bolt]

but it's more recommended for new players to level z23 cuz tech points

[lean tendon]

Not specifically fp

[crude fable]

I like both of them that the point

[zenith heron]

Is this fleet formation good enough for the preparation when facing arbiters? I haven't reach them yet, but I want a good emphasis if I am good to go or if there are some stuff that I need to change in my fleet, since I just started going back to OpSi and I just reached the Phase when they gave me Sub Fleets now...

[hollow gust]

Do nimi then , she has ironblood tech

[crude fable]

What's fp?

[hollow gust]

That's going to work with decent gear, not super optimized but good enough

[inland shoal]

Firepower

[lean tendon]

Since I uses Laffey like a swiss army knife, sure, talking out my ass bud

[storm heron]

they both serves the same purpose, if anything, laffey a little bit more tanky and have a bit more aa while having a bit less dps

[crude fable]

Nimi?

[lean tendon]

Fire powa

[atomic abyss]

z23 then

[inland shoal]

Nimi = Z23

[hollow gust]

Sorry z23, it's her nickname

[atomic abyss]

subs aside, you're on the right track

[spring bolt]

harbiter is easy and those fleet will massively overkill, which is a good thing

[crude fable]

Oh okai tysm :3

[hollow gust]

Z23 serves literally the same thing??? And neither has utility

[storm heron]

keyword just a bit, marginal things. Not like you're gaining anything by retrofitting them unless they are your starters

[lean tendon]

Their stats aren't the same

[hollow gust]

So? They do the same thing

[storm heron]

they are statsticks

[inland shoal]

Utility means they provide sth that isn't just pew pew
Which neither of them do

[storm heron]

if you wanna see different starters then compare javelin/ayanami to z23

[zenith heron]

Still on progress since I am sticking for wolfpack since no Da Vinci and KMS META Sub

[hollow gust]

Helena is utility , Aurora is Utility , both nimi and z23 are firepower gunboats

[lean tendon]

Nope

[atomic abyss]

they do not do the EXACT same thing, yes

[storm heron]

but even then the starters only differ by damage distribution and they do the same thing, damage

[atomic abyss]

but they do have the same use - damage, not utility