gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

then use them after you eventually have the bulins, and use something else that's MLB first

[viscid swift]

besides, not all of those ships are worth bothering with anyway

[autumn chasm]

Halp the noob

[wet granite]

Is it normal for my flagship BB to do more damage than the other members of the fleet? I'm noticing Bismark Zwei is out damage Soyuz/NJ/Musashi by 200-300k per fight for some reason.

[viscid swift]

context?

like what fight exactly and gear they were using, and what was the rest of the comp

[wet granite]

It was the META fight. Bismark hit for around 510k, Soyuz and NJ hit for 300k each. They all have the same +13 champagne gun with white shell + FCR. Vanguard was Agir/Helena/Plymuth.

[viscid swift]

which META fight

[storm heron]

Ply

[wet granite]

The Hiryuu one. I've only recently come back to the game and was wondering if I was doing something wrong with my ships that one was doing so much more than everything else.

[stark quiver]

might be ply buff, or bis2 being js better

[storm heron]

ply buff, rng, maybe soyuz launch first so bz black hole only for bz

[zenith heron]

Ply buff probably, since Soyuz should be better against Medium

[viscid swift]

Plymouth alone wouldn't account for about 200k worth of damage

[storm heron]

soyuz buff good too

[viscid swift]

if memory serves though Bismarck should be the fastest of the 3 so I suspect she's getting at least part of her 4th salvo off whereas the other 2 just aren't at all

or if you're just one shotting her then Zwei firing first means she get's the last of the damage so Soyuz and NJ just aren't getting the oppurtunity to get extra damage in

[wet granite]

Ah thank you! I'll pay more attention to when the boss dies next time. Atm I'm just kind of throwing ships at the wall because I don't remember who does what.

[eager mulch]

[storm heron]

[forest palm]

[brisk dragon]

is last event's shop gone?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Event shops are only open for 7 days after the event ends

[brisk dragon]

just remembered i didn't spent anything other than pr blue prints... didn't even get meta dupes :c

[little tree]

Do I replace avp with amagi avp is fate Sim 5

[rain vine]

replace enty, assuming amagi is mlb

[little tree]

Amagi is 120 mlb

[fluid umbra]

Can I use both Enty and Amagi on the same fleet? And does Amagi need Aka/Kaga for the buff?

[rain vine]

yes
its not really worth it

[eternal moth]

First question yes, second no

[little tree]

Is triple cv mob fleet fine for opsi ?

[eternal moth]

If you have AvP or Implacable, though, I'd go Shinano/Amagi/AvP or Imp instead. Haku should be more damage than Enty as well, I believe

[rain vine]

yes

[little tree]

Thx

[eternal moth]

A lot of people prefer triple CV for OpSi mob, but I like having a BB

[eager mulch]

amagi-chan opsi mobbing

[little tree]

Is it worth retrofit javelin to use them in opsi ?

[eternal moth]

It's worth retrofitting at least one of the starter DDs for the beginner missions

[little tree]

I got z23 maxed I'm short level 120 vanguards

[eternal moth]

There are a lot of better options than Javelin, but it's going to depend on what you have

[rain vine]

i would open a thread and post dock

[eternal moth]

You might want to start a thread to post your dock in and someone may be able to help

[autumn pumice]

sure, why not, she's pretty good after retro, you might wanna get her aux gear too
I would encourage you to get to chapter 12 if you haven't yet, its a great spot for farming gold and then you won't have to worry about such things, you'll just spend the money on whatever you want at the moment

[little tree]

I'm on 13 4

[autumn pumice]

nice

[vast sparrow]

grind fleet is just random ships?

[autumn pumice]

random ships that manage to clear the stage
yes

[vast sparrow]

you look familia- WAIT A MINUTE

[autumn pumice]

heh

I don't even hang around in this chat often so you caught me at a rare time

[forest palm]

how is Wash looking post UE btw

[atomic abyss]

It's certainly is an improvement

I'm just utterly clueless as to why the hell it's so gimmicky

She does now get a conditional 100% proc rate

But her condition is so hard to proc compared to Nelson kai

[vast sparrow]

oh really

[forest palm]

on paper it only looked good for early mobbing, I didn't get to see the actual barrage itself

[atomic abyss]

Her additional barrage is literally just 3 extra shells

[forest palm]

yikes

[vast sparrow]

is the 1st or 2nd skill got improved when augment?

[atomic abyss]

1st

She now has 2 barrages
Her original barrage retains 70% proc rate and gains a few more shells
Still on the same 20s timer

It can go up to 100% depending on the 2nd barrage

The 2nd barrage is just 3 shells
It procs 10s and every 20s afterwards

So 10, 30, 50 etc

If an enemy that's hit by it dies within the next 3s, or the enemy hit is a BB/C, the first barrage proc rate increases by 30%

Otherwise lel

I mean sure the 3 shells aren't that weak

But just why

[vast sparrow]

We need an augment for Ranger that her 1st skill became 100% proc rate

[atomic abyss]

[vast sparrow]

also is ranger good?

[stark quiver]

well in theory yes

practically no

[eager mulch]

if you’re lucky, she’s the best, if you’re normal, she’s not good

[atomic abyss]

She is one of the better poverty CVLs

[stark quiver]

i keep a 125 oathed ranger just in case

[atomic abyss]

But without luck she'll be really lacking

[vast sparrow]

imagine 100% proc on ranger

[atomic abyss]

It wouldn't be that fantastic

[stark quiver]

ive seen a ranger almost one shot ex boss

[atomic abyss]

She can one shot

[stark quiver]

yes,
most ive personally seen was down to like 2 bars

[whole crypt]

depends on how EXs get handled hereon but we had a couple that disabled quick takeoff

[stark quiver]

made her so good she got nerfed

[worn gorge]

So how good is houshou meta (on paper)

[stark quiver]

not good, her tech is noice tho

[vast sparrow]

good future fleet for opsi mob? i have Chkalov now, just need Italian Techs for Nakhimov

[forest palm]

considering there's no healer, not really, no

[spring bolt]

that's pretty bad... no healer, no preload

[forest palm]

also AFCT on a mobber is wasteful

[vast sparrow]

so Chkalov > Volga? or make it a boss
Yes i have Unicorn and Persy fully retro'd and MLB

[forest palm]

Volga is a secondary, not a primary, so still not good enough

[river junco]

Why are you not using uni on mob if she’s retro and mlb?

[forest palm]

cause people get baited by faction junk

[vast sparrow]

damn i forgot that Capped EXP can still contribute to research and lectures

ill made Uni again

[spring bolt]

make it boss, and amagi/haku are better than chka
and chappy and tash are not very strong
putting so many russian ships in the fleet isn't helping

[vast sparrow]

oh wait found a comp thats better

[worn gorge]

Which union carrier do I replace lusty with on a boss fleet of enty/essex/lusty

[soft raft]

like besides Yorktown II and Hornet II?

[worn gorge]

I don't have either

Just got back after last playing in like 2021

[vast sparrow]

Shimakaze for Manual

i have no other aux for DD other than that

[wind hazel]

[spring bolt]

it's still very boss-ish fleet, seems you just took haku/implac out and put uni in and called it mob
it will work tho

[pseudo lark]

how come my game keeps trying to auto search and auto 1-1?

how can I disable it

I retreat and it keeps going back

[fluid umbra]

Is the breguet worth spending core data on?

And is the Sextuple Bofors just straight up best in slot for ship AA gun?

[zenith heron]

Its a psuedo Wyvern,

If you have enough for Wyvern then no, if yes do 3 pieces OR Really Stay with Barracuda Torp bomber

[jaunty vault]

sextuple isnt bis
its only bis for the ship with the best AA in your fleet

[frank pulsar]

breguet is kinda worth to get one or two if you already bought everything high prio imho

as for sexy bofors, its the best aa gun for single hit dmg, but the twin 57mm is much better due to its high rof while only having slightly lower dmg

[viscid swift]

AA is a mess as it is but long reload and short range no matter how good the alpha is is not it

[fluid umbra]

Okay got it

[little tree]

Roomba is best gun for sandy I have correct?

[fluid umbra]

Since Twin 57 is rainbow can I like slap sextuple bofors on AA slot or do I just keep using purple?

[viscid swift]

What

[sweet delta]

Is sextuple your only gold AA gun?

[zenith heron]

Probably saying can't build UR AA gun

[fluid umbra]

Weelll I don't really have much gold AA but sextuple can be made in gear lab so.

[sweet delta]

Sextuple shouldn't be made in gear lab

[frank pulsar]

twin 113 and twin 90 are both good and accessible, and isnt sexy bofors really ex to make in gearlab

[sweet delta]

Electronics are better spent on airplanes and 457mm

[fluid umbra]

Drats. So what AA do I use

[sweet delta]

All the golds

[zenith heron]

Any is alr as long as you don't reach the map filled with hard filled enemy carriers

Assuming you haven't reached World 12 at minimum

[fluid umbra]

I'm only at 12-4 so not going for 13+ for the forseeable future

[frank pulsar]

if youre new just use quad bofors and twin 113, both are attainable from tech boxes
you dont need better aa guns than that until w15 anyway

[viscid swift]

You have much better things to craft than sextuples

[fluid umbra]

Should be fine, right

[zenith heron]

Still doable

[jaunty vault]

@inland shoal hi

[little tree]

Wrong channel bozo

[reef flume]

Is there a meowfficer that gives bonus rld stats?

[vale spindle]

probably, look at the "list of meowfficers wiki page" i think it lists all their inherant skills there then you can ctrl+f reload

[atomic abyss]

#trophy-room for such posts

[turbid shell]

what are good ship to clear chapter 13 hard mode filled with planes?

[atomic abyss]

Carriers and anti air ships
Which ones depends on what you have

[turbid shell]

use no bb?

[wind hazel]

you have to use 1

mob can be triple cv

[turbid shell]

which bb should i use? 🤔

[stark quiver]

UR bb

[atomic abyss]

UR one for boss fleet
Which one depends on what you have MLB

So 3 CV/L for mob, 1 BB+2CV/L for boss

[turbid shell]

i got Alsace, Soyuz, Vanguard and Friedrich

[wind hazel]

either alsus or soyuz

[atomic abyss]

Soyuz can take more planes but Alsace may be able to complete the map faster with her preload

I prefer Soyuz personally

[turbid shell]

hmmmm are Amagi CV good for boss fleet?

[atomic abyss]

UR CVs are good anywhere

You will want to avoid converging torps tho
This is campaign

[turbid shell]

ok, what is converging torps?

[atomic abyss]

Ryuusei, saiun, d-4 etc
Torp bombers

[turbid shell]

alright i'll check the gear

[sweet delta]

You can use 2 BBs for boss if you lack UR CVs

[golden moth]

Guys..in your opinion..if were going to rank the UR bb we have..top 5..who are they..im just curious

[thin haven]

Is this good?

[hollow gust]

All the UR BBs but Nj Uvh and FDG

[sweet delta]

bisz alsace musashi soyuz vanguard

[sweet delta]

use a DD gun and use more 500+ HP instead of the EVA rudder

[thin haven]

The main gun is DD

[golden moth]

Thanksss

[sweet delta]

it's a CL gun that has a bonus when used by DD, but said bonus does not make it better than good DD guns

[golden moth]

The reason for these 5 that u select them are..their dmg..tankiness..and also they are the meta..

[wet badge]

whats good abt vanguard

[sweet delta]

10% damage for whole fleet and up to 8% damage more for BBs

[sudden sparrow]

Y'all, rate my Brest.

[hollow gust]

It's usable, that augment kinda bad tho

[sudden sparrow]

Got it.

[rapid grail]

Get an Aegir gun for her since Brest gun kind of sucks compared to the other AP CB guns
Keep DD gun to proc jer skill conditional of French gear + good anti-heavy damage
AA gun not much of an issue unless if u actually using ehr for plane heavy content. Good enough for campaign

Augment, use Greatsword instead. Lance is niche

Would also prefer two +EVA gears over Toolbox + Rudder on CBs in general

Since their HP is aight but not the EVA stat

[sudden sparrow]

So do I use SG for Brest or another washing machine?

[low nymph]

brests of all shapes and sizes are loved and appreciated.

[turbid shell]

what plane best to use for Aircraft slot?

just use best plane available?

[stark quiver]

What plane on what cv for what content

And on which slot

[atomic abyss]

And which carrier

[turbid shell]

Shinano slot 1 and Amagi CV slot 1 & 2
for ch13 hard mode boss fleet

[remote yarrow]

Give both a Flapjack for first slot for AA

For Amagi's second slot DB a Tenrai or Helldiver

[turbid shell]

ok thank you very much

[rapid grail]

can't stack rudders
Would not rather use SG radar on her. Can sort your gears that give EVA stats and them use those

[atomic abyss]

Toolbox+rudder then

[slow fox]

Badge Kicks mentioned

[crude fable]

Are there any usable units that i can use and should i up hood to lvl 105+? ._.

[remote yarrow]

Where's your Portland

If haven't beat W9 yet stay with those 6 ships you are currently using, I'm guessing it's Uni,Hood,Enty Laffey,Helena,Z23

And yeah they are safe to 120

But you'll eventually need a tank

[crude fable]

I already up her but haven't retrofit her yet

Do she need to up more than lvl 100?

[atomic abyss]

Considering you literally have no better tanks, yes

[crude fable]

Idk any tank do you have any suggestions for tank?._.

[remote yarrow]

Every ship is safe to 120, 125 is when you need to worry about who you limit break past 120 since Arrays are scarce early on

[atomic abyss]

The better tanks are in research, which you can't do right now

Just use port

[remote yarrow]

Portland, I assumed you didn't have her since she wasn't in the screenshots

[crude fable]

Oh okai

[crude fable]

Oh sry about that...

I up pheonix too btw ._.

And tysm :3

[agile sky]

whats the coin farming stage? Is it 12-3 or...?

[remote yarrow]

12-4

[agile sky]

gotcha. thnx!

its not too much more difficult than 12-1 right? And should be more exp as well?

[remote yarrow]

Nah it's not much more difficult, but 12-1 is slightly better for exp/oil

[agile sky]

i see i see. Should be fine then cuz i got some oil to spare rn but im still farming exp for the last ship in the new PR and im broke for research academy

[jaunty vault]

12-1 has good coins nonetheless

[daring light]

must have ships in pr5?

[remote yarrow]

Ply, Brest is also really good

[daring light]

or should i skip to pr6?

[atomic abyss]

Harbin as well, tho not as high prio as she used to be

6 should be skipped if anything

[remote yarrow]

Nah, PR5 is higher prio

[daring light]

hummu

[atomic abyss]

PR5 is higher prio because

1. Plymouth
2. Brest
3. Plymouth (again)
4. Plymouth gun
5. Harbin

[remote yarrow]

Plymouth twice

[daring light]

howwwwww

[atomic abyss]

It's more the emphasise how important ply is

[remote yarrow]

It's a joke she's just that good

[daring light]

[atomic abyss]

In PR6, the only especially important ship is Shimanto

[novel condor]

Wait how good is brest again ?

[slow fox]

Brest is 163 good

[atomic abyss]

UR CB so very good
Basically she is one of your best option for a mob tank if you lack the limited alternatives

[daring light]

pr5 to 7 plymouth still 1st prio?

[atomic abyss]

And even then, you can skip over Shimanto entirely if you don't plan to push content

Ply is still the highest priority by far

[remote yarrow]

I'm guessing you are done with PR4

[daring light]

how bout shimanto?

[atomic abyss]

^

Shimanto excels in w13, w14 and especially w15

But she doesn't perform noticeably better than other alternatives elsewhere

[daring light]

i havent read her skill set tho

ohh she specialize the w14-15?

[atomic abyss]

She can put out fires
She can torp really well
She can AA really well

[daring light]

ahh okk, since pr would take less time ill prio plymouth first.. ty

[atomic abyss]

Still one of the best CLs, but you don't need her specific kit elsewhere anyways

What I did was, ignored PR6
I just unlocked Shimanto dumped all my gold PR6 BPs to her

Or you could wait for PR6 to get catch-up

300 BPs is enough for most of the trip to 30 after all

[daring light]

i got a plenty pr6 bp, but still not enoght to dev30.. i might catch plymouth first

[atomic abyss]

I too would recommend ply first

To be clear - it's not that Hinden and Kears are bad

They just are more niche in their uses

[daring light]

kk tyy

[versed sentinel]

i was waiting to get albacore from the shop but duke of york is a good ship to get too right?

[jaunty vault]

depends on your BB options and how new you are, wouldn't recommend Duke for a newbie

[atomic abyss]

Duke is quite niche

[daring light]

go get izumo

[jaunty vault]

she also has BB RLD tech which is good but again not something for newbies

[sweet delta]

If you have Eldridge retrofit item then but Eldridge

[crimson glacier]

is eldridge retro worth it for new players tho

[versed sentinel]

i wouldnt say im a newbie ig heres my options for BBs

[jaunty vault]

well you've got vanguard, dork is just worse vanguard

could still get her for tech if you're into that

[atomic abyss]

What cooper said

Average player has no reason to get dork if they have vanny

[cursive lark]

Dork good bb hit

[versed sentinel]

[versed sentinel]

idk, do i have it?

[cursive lark]

Oops I mean good bb rld

[versed sentinel]

oh wait posted the wrong thing. mb

[atomic abyss]

These are augments anyways

[brisk cedar]

Opsi help

[versed sentinel]

yeah i dont have the eldridge retro item ill continue waiting for albacore

[remote yarrow]

If you played during Indiana's event you should have it if you did the login missions

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Voltage_Rising

[thin jay]

Hi, excuse me, how can i change ships in the formation of operation siren?

[remote yarrow]

Any Blue Port > Order > Fleet Deployment

[hard stirrup]

what do i wanna do here? does it matter?

[crisp wadi]

Between mog and Shima. Who should i MLB first?

[thin jay]

Ty (:

[remote yarrow]

Is there another option? Like a Main fleet ship

[tropic tusk]

how high can i stack my items in deport?

is it 9999? or unlimited?

[remote yarrow]

I don't think there's a limit

[tropic tusk]

nice no limit

[crisp wadi]

I think its no, main fleet alrd done

[shell willow]

i have stack with 5 digit so i assume theres no limit

[remote yarrow]

I would go for Mogador then

[tropic tusk]

nice

when i get to 6 digit ill ask agian

[plain saffron]

Uint32 limit

At least that's how server tells game how much you have so might be actually higher

[tropic tusk]

as in 32 digit?

[atomic abyss]

Base 32

[shell willow]

2^32

[atomic abyss]

Yeah it's 32-bit binary

[soft dagger]

You can ignore it if you don't care, however certain maps require it in order to earn stars.

[hard stirrup]

yea i had to do it before i could leave the map

[rapid grail]

hidden mats and it matters

[elfin hollow]

Is this ship limited?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Indiana

Do we know when they rerun ships?

[atomic abyss]

2 years at least

[elfin hollow]

aw man not another FGO

[remote yarrow]

She won't rerun till 2026 have fun

[hard stirrup]

dw we got alabama

[soft dagger]

musashi is approaching

[hard stirrup]

do we wanna buy all this or does it matter?

[polar venture]

Can you get through all content with tier 4 units?

[hard stirrup]

can we come back to it if needed?

[remote yarrow]

Did you find her in a map? If yes, you cannot go back once you leave

[atomic abyss]

What do you mean tier 4?
By ECTL?
Absolutely not

[soft dagger]

she's gone if you're in a secured map, she stays if it's explorable

[remote yarrow]

Buy the Tokens and AP Boxes

[rapid grail]

purple tokens and any AP boxes you get

[hard stirrup]

ok ok ty

[polar venture]

The community tier list, yeah

[atomic abyss]

I don't even think it's possible even with just T2 and below

[polar venture]

Wow, ok I'll keep that in mind. Tier 1 or 0 and above

[atomic abyss]

The hardest content in AL

Is just that hard

[remote yarrow]

Have you read this yet? https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[polar venture]

Is it more difficult if you have it on auto?

[atomic abyss]

Well

[remote yarrow]

Using Auto is the standard in AL

[polar venture]

Reading? Gross

[atomic abyss]

If your manual skills are actually good, yeah it'll be easier on manual

[rose cosmos]

Who should I 125 first, ancho or vanguard?

[atomic abyss]

Vanguard

[hard stirrup]

yes but very useful

[rose cosmos]

Why

[atomic abyss]

Backliner

[rapid grail]

backline botes -> frontline botes for lvl 125 and MLB

[atomic abyss]

Are the DPSes

Ancho won't DPS

[rose cosmos]

I guess ancho is fine with 120?

[atomic abyss]

You will want her at 125 eventually

[rapid grail]

for now yes. Atm focus on Vanny

[soft dagger]

up to w14 if geared properly, idk about her in 15

[atomic abyss]

Ancho is fine for w15

[rapid grail]

ancho good for boss fleet

[remote yarrow]

Following the Tierlist blindly is worse, read up that guide and use the recommended fleet if you just started a week ago or so

[soft dagger]

no i meant 120 ancho

[rapid grail]

in w15

[polar venture]

Nah im months in

[atomic abyss]

The issue is gordish

The tier list isn't even accurate for all campaign content

[remote yarrow]

I think the better questions is, what Chapter are you at?

[hard stirrup]

im years in and i re-read that after being gone for so long it is very useful

[polar venture]

The end of 12

[atomic abyss]

The community tier list

Is only accurate up till end w13

After that it gets yeeted out the window

[polar venture]

What do you do after?

[remote yarrow]

Ask for help in here or learn to make fleets by yourself

[atomic abyss]

You hunt down the w14/15 guide

Or yes, ask here

[polar venture]

🤔 okie

[atomic abyss]

W14 and W15 are the hardest content in AL

[polar venture]

You can auto it no problem though?

[remote yarrow]

With good enough ships and gear yes

[atomic abyss]

Assuming you actually have the right ships and gear, of course you can

Manual won't save you if your ships and gear are sub par

It only saves you from bad rng

[remote yarrow]

Like I said before, auto is the standard, if you need to manual to beat campaign you probably need to improve something

[atomic abyss]

So don't think you can cheese w14/15 by being a pro manual gamer

[soft dagger]

^
Backlines can't evade salvo and planes manually

[barren tapir]

well, not entirely true, you can evade salvo by calling an airstrike and the same also helps for planes. but that "evasion" is on a cooldown so the main benefit of manual here is just adjusting it slightly so it has the maximum defensive utility, which won't always, or even usually, be enough to save you if your fleet otherwise would lose

[rose cosmos]

The only upgrade path for bomb diver is helldiver to wyvern rite?

[shell willow]

tenrai

[barren tapir]

wyvern is torp bomber i think?

[atomic abyss]

Wyvern is from firebrand

Oh I misunderstood

Yes Helldiver straight to Tenrai cos gold diver is a scam

[shell willow]

theres the gold helldiver which is a very slight upgrade, not really worth, yeah^

[soft dagger]

fair enough

[blissful plume]

umm any can help with building team for pve content ? I just random make a team haha all I been doing is just daily stuff claiming etc so not know about building team

[urban solar]

umm any can help with building team for

[bright tusk]

is double toolkit far better than 1 toolkit + 1 fire suppressor on a DD?

[zenith heron]

Yes if that is your only defense auxiliary, usually boilers are nice for extra speed

(Burning dmg can be annoying but you can't sacrifice a lot of hp for it)

[rose cosmos]

Is saiun decent?

[zenith heron]

Its one of the torp bombers that are best against bosses due to their converging attacks, and are usually used also for adjusting airstrikes your ship has dual torp bomber slots.

This is also the same for the Ryuusei, Junkers, and the new VIT torp bomber

[still nest]

Which is worth to farm? Cosmic Kicks or Celestial Body?

Or both?

[zenith heron]

Cosmic Kicks for that speed and evasion

[zenith heron]

Also this is by order from Fastest to more Dmg:

Saiun-Junkers-Ryuusei-ViT

You can choose whatever you want if you either want a faster airstrike, syncing with other ships, or straight up using the slowest in exchange for more dmg if you are greedy

[zenith heron]

Celestial Body is decent to get due to it being an HP item, but slightly expensive to upgrade than a repair toolkit due to being gold, so its also ok to get it, but Cosmic Kicks is the better one to get

[rose cosmos]

So shinano should benefits for two saiun rite

[zenith heron]

Yes as usual, even with the likes of Hakuryuu/ Amagi CV, and Implacable

[zenith heron]

This is best against Medium to Heavy Bosses but it is also doable in Light Armor bosses should you ever don't have a Dive Bomber Skyraider or Hellcat Hvar Fighters / BF109 Fighters

[rose cosmos]

I have a hellcat f7

But folks said I shouldn't use fighters on shinano

[zenith heron]

The normal Hellcat due to them being able to Intercept other planes, typically for general use, but Shinano prefers Torp Bombers like you said depending on the Boss Armor type

Or if you use Shinano other than the Boss Fleet

[rose cosmos]

Btw for amagi, should she also use double torpedoes or fighter+torpedo are enough

[soft dagger]

interceptor+TB+TB if you're in campaign

[spring bolt]

content dependent
"general loadout" means you don't need to worry about it and use whatever you have

[rose cosmos]

Yeah I want to go 14 to 15

[soft dagger]

you'll want wyvern on the TB slot

[polar venture]

Is unicorn better than perceus in healing?

[rose cosmos]

I'm still trying to make one

[zenith heron]

Assuming this is for boss fights, this is alright against Medium to Heavy Bosses, and change the Helldiver to another Torp Bomber

[zenith heron]

Always has been always will be,

Consistent > All at once

[rose cosmos]

Yeah, shinano+amagi and yuudachi combo

I don't have the pr4 girl

[rose cosmos]

Don't you want both of them later on though

[zenith heron]

Better to always have Unicorn bcs she is best to get early on than Perseus, with much more consistency

Compared to Perseus's Double Preload in exchange for longer cooldown

[crimson glacier]

there isnt really any use for perseus if you have uni

if you want 2 healers then perseus isnt a good pair for uni

and later you are in the game the better uni becomes compared to perseus

[rose cosmos]

Btw, I do lack double torpedoes for both shinano and her, what should be the solution now

[zenith heron]

Pr4? Anchorange and Agir don't benefit on stronger torps but faster ones due to their skill,

And Amagi and Shinano comp buffs torp vanguard so I assume its Yuudachi like yours

Or Shimakaze, Unzen, Kazagumo and Ibuki (Pr1)

[rose cosmos]

I mean haru

[spring bolt]

in general, yes
more specifically, if you are able to control the combat time to end before uni's first airstrike after preload, percy is better (~18s)
if combat ends after uni's first airstrike after preload but before the second, the their healing ability are about the same, but percy's attack will be preload only while uni is 1 preload + one normal airstrike (~18 to 36s)
anything after that percy can't keep up

[rose cosmos]

I'm stuck at this lol and I lack a CL tank for 11-4 hard

[crimson glacier]

why do you need a CL tank

just use normal tanks

[rose cosmos]

I miss a BC too on top of that tbf

[crimson glacier]

no hood?

[zenith heron]

Thanks for reminding, ignore what I said on this, since Amagi is better, all you need is a slow for most boss contents like Implacable or Ark Royal retro since AvP is in pr4 and Ark Royal is more accessible

[rose cosmos]

3* without skill upgrades

[spring bolt]

11-4 boss is known for the FP based torps, use CBs with vh or agir, light armor tanks will suffer

[rose cosmos]

Tbf I use nj, her and shinano on boss fleet anyway

[rose cosmos]

I have ancho but idk how to switch her to tank position

Since they force you to have a CL at tank slot rite

[zenith heron]

NJ is decent if no other options, but Normal Nagato would be nice bcs of Avi faction Buff...

Keep in mind, its better to use a fully upgraded and MLB ship compared to a less upgraded one, so if Nagato isn't upgraded, then Stick to NJ for now until then

[coarse heron]

Just rearrange the ships

[spring bolt]

click here and you can drag

[rose cosmos]

oh......

[zenith heron]

Go for general loadout for Shinano

Perseus / Uni Kai has no 2 torp slots btw due to the Anti Air slot / no flexible slot (That would make her too flexible if that happened).

Basically saying Uni Kai on mob fleet due to her kit, and Shinano on boss fleet

[rose cosmos]

Should be good rite

[soft dagger]

nj flag

switch emden and yuudachi

[rose cosmos]

Also Eldridge is awesome for mob btw, I feel like I consistently doing mob far better now

[zenith heron]

Nj should be first than Shinano on said position

Would recommend Changing Anchor and Heinrich though,

Heinrich on Mob Anchor on Boss, bcs you already have Eldridge retro for invulnerabilty, and 2 invul skills on a mob fleet is overkill

Your vanguard on both fleets need work but could be doable for now

Best yet if you want to change emden's Position to Eldridge bcs Emden does not buff anyone there unless you give her to mob since Fdg and Heinrich can be at Mob

[stoic forge]

Who should i retrofit first,san diego or warspite

[crimson glacier]

warspite retro is waste of time

[coarse heron]

You shouldn’t retrofit Warspite at all

She was decent… nearly 5 years ago.

Not worth the time and money today

[atomic abyss]

san diego
you can ignore warspite entirely

[zenith heron]

Warpspite is Old News, she isn't worth your time, unless you want collection so the former is better

[rose cosmos]

Can you recommend me a better vanguard

[wind hazel]

your vanguard is fine

[soft osprey]

Just got Le Malin, she seems pretty good, is she?

[wind hazel]

no

[atomic abyss]

not in the slightest

[soft osprey]

Damn

[blazing shale]

Are the La-9 & VK-107 worth it over the usual planes?

[atomic abyss]

LA-9 is the best fighter for bossing against med and heavy, and second best for light - very worth to use

VK-107 aka the white VIT-2 is just a higher dmg barracuda - it has no interception but has stronger torps. stick to wyverns

[elfin hollow]

what does TOUCHAKASHI30 mean?

[bright tusk]

who should take flagship position in shinano/hakuryu/amagiCV fleet? and its launch order?

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[soft dagger]

try it

[atomic abyss]

who's the slower being used?

[elfin hollow]

oh thanks

[soft dagger]

haku last. flag probably shinano

[bright tusk]

eldridge

[atomic abyss]

then the slowest carrier in flag

[sinful elk]

Chat after I got agir who should i go for next (hiden?)

[atomic abyss]

hinden is super low prio

hakuryuu and the rest of pr4

[sinful elk]

dont have the tech for her

[atomic abyss]

marco/aug then

also - how do you not have the tech, we just had a sakura event

[soft dagger]

avp?

[undone plover]

all of PR4
1 each from PR1-3
1 PR5 (harbin)
plymouth

[sinful elk]

634/950

[frank pulsar]

avp stands for august von parceval from pr4

[jaunty vault]

parseval ☝️ 🤓

[atomic abyss]

mlb some stuff then

[sinful elk]

i dont have sakura ships

[atomic abyss]

amagi alone gives 60

[wind hazel]

it's dead week, time to farm some IJN ships

[rose cosmos]

Mlb blue ships is a decent strat to farm points rite

[sinful elk]

I ain lyin

[wind hazel]

ehh.. depends on hull most of the time

just look up on what ship you have that give you the most points at mlb

it's usually those heavier ships like CV BB etc

[vast sparrow]

if i run my phone in Enterprise, while the other in Amagi, would it still kick me?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[wind hazel]

i don't believe so

[atomic abyss]

if they are tied to the same account

[wind hazel]

im gonna try it

[plain saffron]

No

[wind hazel]

ban

[plain saffron]

As long as the initial login is not at the exact same time
I do it all the time

[storm heron]

what should I do here?

[vast sparrow]

Eh...looks like ill do it the hard way then

[plain saffron]

If you do 1st login at same time on both device it'll just spit some error, no big deal. Just login again

[wind hazel]

yeah you don't get kicked

[atomic abyss]

refresh or do the E

[vast sparrow]

Yes...also Lil Enterprise is the most dangerous place to be in

[plain saffron]

I played on both accounts simultaneously for years :suismile:

[storm heron]

you don't get kicked btw, I play lil E too

I mean the server Lil E

[plain saffron]

Too late

[crimson glacier]

is vit 2 converging in pr7

[plain saffron]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

yep

[wet badge]

for mobbing in campaign is perseus good

[atomic abyss]

a worse unicorn retro
das about it

[storm heron]

kinda

[vast sparrow]

Wait...why did i put Persy on my grind fleet

[low nymph]

Guys in your opinions who would you say is best for flag in mobbing

[crimson glacier]

musashi

[storm heron]

might be yamato

[atomic abyss]

[left cedar]

depends as everything in AL
for me generally FdG is the best, but some content as W15 i would take Musa

[crimson glacier]

yamato is dogshit flag atm

[vast sparrow]

Looks like i gotta bismarck with FdG

[atomic abyss]

[sinful elk]

Chat I Got 3 wyverns now what i should be after next in gear

[vast sparrow]

Been using Bismarck as a Mob FS since...W4-14

[atomic abyss]

457

[storm heron]

another one or bb gun or aa gun or dd gun

[sinful elk]

that shit expensive af...

[atomic abyss]

definitely not AA yet

so?

[storm heron]

bb -> aa -> dd

[atomic abyss]

AA lower than DD

[vast sparrow]

Champagne or 457mm?

[storm heron]

no champ through gl

[atomic abyss]

champagne from protocore, 457 from protocore/gearlab

not enough protocore, get your champy gun from gearlab too

[soft raft]

Like as in Bismarck Zwei or the garbage regular Bismarck?

[atomic abyss]

regardless, it's higher prio

[storm heron]

Mk8 is kinda high priority too if you miss the hvars

[crimson glacier]

i dont think so

[storm heron]

definitely help for light harby no?

[soft raft]

Mk8?

[crimson glacier]

mk6 works just fine

[atomic abyss]

mk7 i assume
and no, bf109gs exist anyways

[storm heron]

the rainbow bb he gun

[crimson glacier]

yes thats mk7

[atomic abyss]

just use mk6

[soft raft]

That's Mk7
And idk what relation that has with HVAR when they're both used by completely different hulltypes Unless it's Kearsarge

[storm heron]

like using cv for light

[soft raft]

And tell me, how are you going to equip a BB gun to a CV

[polar lion]

Napoli or breast better mobber?

[vast sparrow]

i dont call bismarck trash since she got oath skin, but yes replaced with FdG recently

[atomic abyss]

brest imo
since she has heals

and has access to CB guns to arc over shields

[polar lion]

Aight

[crimson glacier]

napoli ignores shields tho

[atomic abyss]

i'd rather save napoli for boss

[crimson glacier]

huh looks like the CN fleet on nagato meta always gives haku mvp

expected more from amagi

[muted ember]

would you guys think that 300 dock space is good enough?

[wind hazel]

if collector, no

[muted ember]

tbh I'm just playing the game to the point where I can get the meta ships and then I'll start collecting

[spring bolt]

it's just timing/equip, i slightly changed the loadout and mvp goes to amagi

[wind hazel]

you will have to minmax sweat on who to retire and low QoL from sortie, that's about it

[soft dagger]

if you're f2p, you probably want to spend gems you earned to just dockspace. maybe get more opinions about this since i'm not f2p myself

[crimson glacier]

is haku the fastest or something

[muted ember]

should I get another white/black shell or a ship like Independece?

[wind hazel]

how many shells you have?

[muted ember]

1 black and 1 white-

[wind hazel]

get more shells

[muted ember]

last time I used 800 to get the british shell for Hood

[wind hazel]

you kinda wasted 800 then

[crimson glacier]

never buy those again

[muted ember]

black first or white first

[wind hazel]

white

[muted ember]

didn;t plan to in the first place

[storm heron]

get white shells first, they are better than black shells

[wind hazel]

=_= actually, since you have a gold, white and black, maybe go for a black now

[crimson glacier]

i dont think they are better, they are just safer

[late flame]

[muted ember]

I mean I'm using Hood on Mob fleet anyways with Nelson being my new Boss Flagship

[storm heron]

[wind hazel]

it's fine for now. it's just that later on, when you have a lot of BB options to play around with, that gold shell isn't gonna fit

unless you permaslot it on vanguard

[storm heron]

did soy powercreep vanguard?

[atomic abyss]

different roles

[muted ember]

good fleets?(ignore not MLB'd Amagi I'm gonna do that after completing the Cruise pass

[atomic abyss]

alsace is the closest to directly powercreeping vanny
even then, they dont have the same roles

[storm heron]

vanguard can rld buff?

[atomic abyss]

london is the only questionable choice
besides that all good

[muted ember]

here are my options I suppose

oh wait I do have Sirius

[storm heron]

what's the best 3 bbs to be used?

[atomic abyss]

bis2, als, soy for BB boss comps

[storm heron]

eld sirius good

[atomic abyss]

just use london for now since levelled
but yeah work on sirius

[storm heron]

what about med and heavy?

[atomic abyss]

no change

vanny replaces alsace in CM

[muted ember]

also man I should really Limit Break my Suzu and Ayase to save dock space

[storm heron]

sashi no damage?

[muted ember]

don't I need her Retro to make her good?

[atomic abyss]

sushi only better than soy on heavy

[storm heron]

bis2 alsace soy for med and light
bis2 alsace sushi for heavy then

[atomic abyss]

i wouldnt bother swapping in sushi at all

[storm heron]

eh ok whatever, vanguard is not even there

[atomic abyss]

do consider you'd need to adjust your BB fleet everytime

[storm heron]

to sync?

[muted ember]

should I keep or trash these?

[crimson glacier]

To anything

UR BBs win, they don't need different teams

[atomic abyss]

if this was opsi, you'd need to readjust the fleet everytime

just use soyuz

she's better than sushi against light and med

we have CVs for anti heavy anyways

[crimson glacier]

Who cares if you do 900k or 1.2m dmg when the enemy died at 700k

That's how opsi is with URs

[storm heron]

I guess yeah if I wanna push for the best it is always gonna be dependent on content

[atomic abyss]

keep if you lack sufficient gold rudders

[undone plover]

is DD fp or CA fp more useful?

[muted ember]

I don't have any washing machines :D

[atomic abyss]

DD
they have so little FP to begin with

[atomic abyss]

then use the naval camo

[muted ember]

been using blue rudders as place holders

[atomic abyss]

your CAs and CLs want toolbox + camo if they lack washing machines

blue rudder = blue naval camo

[muted ember]

I got a lot more blue rudders than I do camo

[crimson glacier]

it doesnt matter they are the same

[muted ember]

is this correct build?(this is Portland btw)

[crimson glacier]

sure why not

[atomic abyss]

decent by poverty standards

[muted ember]

she's my main tank for my mob fleet

would it be better if I use this on her?

[atomic abyss]

that gun is AP
the one port has is HE

swap according to yr boss

[spring bolt]

usually i prefer AP for mob

[muted ember]

remind me which is better against medium to heavy armor?

[atomic abyss]

AP

[muted ember]

gotcha,and well since I'm using portland on tank it should be fine to use it on her

[undone plover]

also toolkit better for mob usually
save that beaver for your boss tank if they are a cruiser also

[muted ember]

I am using it on my boss tank

it's Portland cause I don't have Anchorage finished

[low nymph]

Your personal opinion on the best endgame mob fleet and best endgame boss fleet I can make possible (assume I have every needed SSR or below unit) reply in thread pls (i lowk unequipped everything and making things fresh)

[muted ember]

how about my Shinano?

[atomic abyss]

whats your definition of end game

[muted ember]

last one

in all of these ignore my bad AAs cause I don't got any good ones

[crimson glacier]

upgrade the skills my man

[undone plover]

good for campaign
when using her vs single boss for example in operation siren u want to use convergin torpedo bombers vs heavy armor
and bf109 vs light armor/medium armor
but u also need to sync her with another CV that can stop/slow enemy

[crimson glacier]

that nelson is just garbage without big seven

[atomic abyss]

SL10 on all ships you use

[muted ember]

will do after these 2 finish their next one

[crimson glacier]

that fargo is useless

[low nymph]

I guess stuff like w15 and efficient opsi

[atomic abyss]

there isnt w16

[low nymph]

oh wait

[crimson glacier]

compared to what difference the big seven makes

[undone plover]

try and get this for nelson
it makes her barrage more consistent at the start of the fight https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Nelson's_Pennant_of_Victory

[muted ember]

I barely understood any of words beyond "torpedo bombers vs heavy armor"

[muted ember]

trying to do that,just need to Limit break Rodney one more time

[atomic abyss]

Your personal opinion on the best

[spring bolt]

the trend of ch 14 and ch 15 indicates: new gimmicks will occur and you can't predict what's best for future main story stages

[deft wraith]

Is vestal Good?

[atomic abyss]

trash beyond belief

[crimson glacier]

the trend is that URs win and SRs lose

[deft wraith]

Since I don't have Akashi

[atomic abyss]

vestal is better than akashi

and yet vestal is still trash beyond belief

[crimson glacier]

and after the chapter release they soon release new URs that are made to make the chapter easier

[undone plover]

your shinano loadout is fine for campaign
but it is not the best thing for single target bossing
if u ever fight a single target boss u can come and ask here how to gear her
easier to learn vs specific bosses

[muted ember]

is it worth it to use a rainbow book on Big Seven?

[deft wraith]

Oh

[atomic abyss]

repair ships are trash period

use unicorn for your healing

[crimson glacier]

there is nothing special about rainbow books, they are just skill exp

[deft wraith]

Okay maybe that'll work

[muted ember]

ik it's just that I don't got many of em

[crimson glacier]

skill exp is worth it for the ships that you use

[deft wraith]

How do you y'all craft the Gears? I'm curious.

[undone plover]

use your rainbow books to maintain uptime for example if there is maintenance.
otherwise use em whenever u want

[muted ember]

we get blueprints for sorting in missions,once we have enough we craft em in the depot

[deft wraith]

Like in commissions?

[undone plover]

that is part of it
early on a lot of gear will come from tech packs
u also get gear blueprints from research
and u craft end game gear from operation siren and gear lab

[deft wraith]

Ooooh

[muted ember]

a few commisions grants you blueprints,but most of em are gotten from sorties

most of the good stuff are gotten from research missions and OpSi

[deft wraith]

Oooo now I understand. And sadly I'm still Beginner in AL

[muted ember]

so am I,don;t worry you'll get the hang of it

[cursive lark]

Wait what comission grants bp?

[deft wraith]

I am bit embarrassed that my Weser Light carrier has no damage. 💀

[atomic abyss]

weser is shit

not sure what you expected

[cursive lark]

Weser is totally not worth no?

[muted ember]

for permanent is this one

[soft raft]

prob doesnt help that you're most likely not giving her good gear, her lvls are low, and she's barely MLB

[atomic abyss]

weser has CVL reload tech
das about it

[deft wraith]

Oh but I randomly equipmenting Dirty gears

[soft raft]

purely only tech fodder

[atomic abyss]

doesnt matter - shit is shit

[cursive lark]

We are talking about weapon bp right? Anyways the only way to reliable get gears is tech boxes, research, core data, and gear lab

[deft wraith]

No wonder why most of common ships have Alots of skins. Than the higher Tiers.

[soft raft]

what

[cursive lark]

No they don't who said that

[deft wraith]

I meant Most of Common ships have Alots of skins

[atomic abyss]

uh not even remotely true

[undone plover]

do u mean common rarity or common=popular?

[deft wraith]

Ya

[muted ember]

I assume so

[cursive lark]

If you define most as quantity, well there's more SRs ships and skjns than common. If you define most as proportion, well every SR has a skin for sure

[deft wraith]

Ooo

[cursive lark]

No that is retrofit bp not weapon bp

[muted ember]

oh wait am dumb :p

I barely do commisions myself so my bad

[deft wraith]

I'm leveling up my normal hiei

Than Hiei Meta

[muted ember]

care to show your ship list?

[cursive lark]

I mean whatever skin is not that relevant at least not here

[deft wraith]

Sure. In dock?

[muted ember]

good idea,well...the not using Hiei meta part,non LMB Ships aren't the best to use

[muted ember]

ye

[cursive lark]

[atomic abyss]

regular hiei is just

horrible

[deft wraith]

Well The Hiei Meta is Great too

Except for the Regular

[atomic abyss]

even by 2018 standards

[soft raft]

Hiei META is "Good but better options exist" but also more time consuimg to raise
Regular Hiei is just completely left in the dust

[deft wraith]

I love the original version of Colorado design than the current emo one

[muted ember]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide/fleetbuilding since your new,read this

[cursive lark]

From a gph standpoint, only level up ships for absolute power or tech, even good ships dont see much use

[soft raft]

(more like this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips tho the fleet building one is good as well)

[deft wraith]

Hold on let my SS and open my azur lane.

[cursive lark]

Not the ectl unupdated guide (iirc)

Plz dont shitposter me

[deft wraith]

Back

[deft wraith]

Here. Some of my ships are shit.

[muted ember]

why do you have 3 fleets

[deft wraith]

Idk. I defeated the chapter 4

[soft raft]

Nelson/Enterprise/Unicorn Portland/Laffey/Helena
Focus on just that fleet until at least W9

[deft wraith]

And I'm bad at equipmenting Gears tbh

[muted ember]

that;'s a given knowing that you just finished w4

[cursive lark]

I have 10 fleets (4 opsi, 1 pvp, 1 meta showdown, 2 farmer, 1 lowcost, 1 hard mode)

[soft raft]

He wasn't asking you

[muted ember]

I just got 2,a Boss and mob fleet

[deft wraith]

I used random equipment

[cursive lark]

Dangit

[deft wraith]

To make my ships powerful

[cursive lark]

[muted ember]

that ain't the best strategy

show me what you're using on let's say Enterprise

[soft raft]

Give this a read for a general idea of what's considered good gear
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[deft wraith]

The gear?

[muted ember]

ye

[deft wraith]

I ain't main Enterprise

But sure. I mainly use Colorado and laffey instead.

[soft raft]

Well you're using her
And she's turbo cracked

very worth the SR Bullins

[muted ember]

Colorado and Laffey too then

[deft wraith]

Okay wait let me ss too

[cursive lark]

I main shima, UvH mains are definitely sweaty

[deft wraith]

Here's the First Gear I put for Enterprise because idk what to put here

Like I said before I'm bad at equipmenting gears

[muted ember]

ok so,Helldiver's good,do you got another steam catapult?

[deft wraith]

Ye

[muted ember]

use that rather than the steering wheel

[deft wraith]

Because I don't have enough materials for new gears

[cursive lark]

Open your gold and purple boxes

[muted ember]

^ if you got em

[deft wraith]

The Eagle tech one?

[cursive lark]

Try to get boxes without spending coins

[muted ember]

any

[deft wraith]

Awh okay

[muted ember]

also a tip,never open grey or blue boxes

[cursive lark]

If you can, replace the blue hellcat with purple corsair, and the torp bomber with tenzan or baracuda

[muted ember]

convert them to purple boxes then open them

[deft wraith]

Got it

[muted ember]

5 greys is 1 blue and 5 blues is 1 purple

[cursive lark]

1 purple is 25 greys

[deft wraith]

Also here's for my Colorado. (tell me if the equipment is fine or not.)

[soft dagger]

forget about her

[atomic abyss]

very bad

[deft wraith]

Oh

[cursive lark]

Use shells or gyro fire control radar for poverty

[deft wraith]

Oh okay I'll try that

[cursive lark]

Give purple mk6 for HE

Switch secondary gun to literally anything better

So is aa gun, I doubt you have many

[muted ember]

use Nelson instead,and equip her with one of these

[deft wraith]

I do. But not that very much

[cursive lark]

When I open my alt account, I find dd gun and aa gun hard to get a good one

The colorado is max stars, you might want to use her

[soft dagger]

no. use this

[deft wraith]

I only have the Mk 6 one

[cursive lark]

Mk6 purple good

Worth upgrading to 10

[muted ember]

use that

[deft wraith]

So should I equip it for nelson?

[cursive lark]

You will find that your bb gun is extremely cracked

[muted ember]

yes

[cursive lark]

Nelson is 2 stars

Colorado is max stars

Alright good luck on your stages

[deft wraith]

Thanks

[cursive lark]

I believe wy_steria. will help you and surely will give the best advice

[soft dagger]

I recommend you raise nelson instead of using colorado, because the context is w4

[muted ember]

there are so many more people better than me at giving advice here-

[deft wraith]

Y'all's Advice are so helpful and thank you very much again yall

[muted ember]

I literaly just started playing 3 months ago

[deft wraith]

Some of other advice is kinda confusing for me because I don't speak Engrish

[silk helm]

if i forget to do my opsi dailies, do they carry over?

[atomic abyss]

assuming you accepted them, yes

[muted ember]

here's what you could be using on Enterprise,try to emulate it as closely as possible

[versed sentinel]

is it ideal to spend 3k coins to PR ships daily

[cursive lark]

Yes it is recommended

[atomic abyss]

yes

[cursive lark]

Spend 8.25k if you feel fancy

Otherwise 3k is good enuff

[soft raft]

Yes
It's generally too expensive to do anything further 10 BPs per day to make it worth the time save

[eager mulch]

what tech is ognevoy

[muted ember]

sounds Russian so Russian tech

[left cedar]

probally he wanna about tech stats, no fac tech

and is HP

[eager mulch]

irredeemable garbage

[muted ember]

also,are tech stat just a flat increase in a certain stat for all ships?

or is it faction based?

[wind hazel]

stat for the hull

[soft raft]

all factions get fleet tech bonuses

[wind hazel]

eg if you lv120 ognevoy, you get +2hp for all DD

[polar venture]

Is there anything w14-15 offers that w12 doesn't?

[soft raft]

Nothing that would justify grinding there over W12
Most notably how difficult W14-15 is compared to W12

[cursive lark]

Stress

[novel solstice]

The chance to drop Houston2 and New Orleans in -4s.
Better cog chip drops.

[polar venture]

Do you at least have a significant upgrade in how much gold you get?

[novel solstice]

But if you're farming for XP or coins, you're probably a lot happier doing it in 12, given the difficulty of 14/15.

The gold drop is in the pinned posts.

But most people find that farming 12 is plenty to get them a lot of gold.

[polar venture]

Okie dokie

i just bought series 4 freebee ship. i really like august von parseval. i heard ancorage is pretty good too though. what yall think?

[atomic abyss]

anchorage

[jaunty glade]

do people usually continue the season meta boss all the way to 75000 or stop at 25000 when they have all their copies?

[atomic abyss]

august needs her fatesim to work to begin with

[polar venture]

whats a fatesim?

[soft raft]

at least 25k

[atomic abyss]

think of it as a "retrofit" to PRs i guess

[daring light]

is it applied to meta fight?

[soft raft]

META Shipgirls are not sirens

[polar venture]

is that where you put a little gold towards them upgrading? little fingerprint thing?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[daring light]

[polar venture]

i thought they all needed that

[atomic abyss]

for some ships, the upgrade is minor

[polar venture]

ahhh okie

[atomic abyss]

for august it is a huge buff

[polar venture]

im really leaning towards august... but ive also got nano, amagi, and enty

[atomic abyss]

do you have any tanks besides port?

[polar venture]

krund

[soft raft]

well for one, August's main function is pretty different than the three you listed

[atomic abyss]

who's krund

[polar venture]

kronshtadt, srry

[atomic abyss]

is kron even mlb

[polar venture]

yes

ive also got brest but shes not MLB
low key on the back burner

im also using brennus

[atomic abyss]

i would get august and get her fs5 asap

[polar venture]

you think i can afford not to get ancorage then? sorry just wanna confirm

[atomic abyss]

no you still need to get her

[polar venture]

does ancorage not really need her fatesim?

[atomic abyss]

all of them want their fatesim

it's just that august's is extra critical

she is significantly worse without her fatesim

[soft raft]

Her FS is pretty low prio
it basically gives her a extra line of torps in her barrage

[polar venture]

yeah im thinking about getting her bc im not really hurting on flyers but not doing as hot on tanks

and ancorage has some decent skins.... vs august i wish she had different ones. decent default though

[atomic abyss]

you are doing well on tanks tho

[eager mulch]

flyers?

[atomic abyss]

august has entirely different use than other carriers

[soft raft]

you're underestimating how big her freeze is in the right circumstances/fleet comps

Freeze utility is extremely valueable in triple CV comps since that lets you run TBs and not have them whiff 99% of their torps if all of your carriers are synced together

[atomic abyss]

she makes your carriers actually hit stuff reliably

[wind hazel]

a good tank is useless if your carriers can't hit their torpedo

[polar venture]

ehh, yeah theyre just not built and i really cant use them, right? cause brest is 1 star in. im using brennus rn and shes tier 1 ofc
at least that was my thinking.

[atomic abyss]

ignore the tiers

the point is, august will have a far bigger impact on your fleets

kron is for the most part, a better tank than ancho for example

[polar venture]

ok, thanks for the advice. ill get her

[signal fog]

do rainbow torp better than bidder in this comp ?

[polar venture]

she calls me her familiar lmao

[soft raft]

dunno how much of a diff it makes in reload times, but most of the time, rainbow sub torp isnt really worth the cost

[signal fog]

guess i'll stick with bidder then, thanks

[crisp anvil]

hi what research items should i get first just got back to playing after quitting 5 years ago..

[atomic abyss]

set your research focus to PR4

get friederich de grosse from PR2 or Anchorage from PR4 first

[crisp anvil]

what bout gear

[atomic abyss]

tenrai from PR4

[crisp anvil]

what about the gear that i can craft from the gear lab

[soft raft]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[crisp anvil]

and does the points and items in my Opsi inventory dissapear after each month?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[novel solstice]

Some of them are converted to vouchers for the opsi voucher shop so they aren't completely wasted.

[eager mulch]

Everything in the materials tab either disappears or gets turned into vouchers, everything else stays

[crisp anvil]

the operations coins reset?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[eager mulch]

those are in the materials tab

[crisp anvil]

ok thanks

[jaunty vault]

they turn into vouchers

which means they do not reset
technically

[reef flume]

This is why shes peak

[crude fable]

are there any tier list that which common or rare should i keep cuz my dock is kinda full rn ._.

[plain saffron]

all common easily obtainable, some rare is hard to get

[crude fable]

so retire all commons?

[atomic abyss]

Use them to enhance other ships

[daring osprey]

Is jeanne d arc good, shld i invest in her

[atomic abyss]

Yes she's good
Not worth for a new player though

[daring osprey]

Gud for endgame content?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[soft raft]

primarily W14-15 boss

[crude fable]

oh oki tysm

and btw does houshou meta usable?

[wary timber]

What's your fleet comp especially your vanguards for 12-4 cuz I have Anchorage in main tank position and she barely survives the boss

[novel solstice]

What level is she? She should be just find on that boss with good gear and high enough level.

[wary timber]

Lv100 dev 29

Or should I just swap her out for Agir

[novel solstice]

She'll certainly perform better if you get her a couple more levels and a few more blueprints.

[soft raft]

nope
Elite META ships are almost universally garbage for pratical uses

[frosty slate]

Hi guys! do we have a good comp against the current meta fight?

[viscid swift]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jz4SSft0mzUIM4x3axrK5MTgZ_I-WG_L/view

[plain saffron]

hi

[civic crag]

Are torpedoes from torp bombers counted as torps or airstrikes

[soft dagger]

how the hell implacable reach 300k just because a single plane? I'm lost

[undone plover]

they scale off AVI if that is what u are asking for

[viscid swift]

La-9 is that good

[civic crag]

I’m more asking like when a boss I OpSi has torp weakness does it include torp strikes

[polar venture]

is the intimacy thing worth doing?
does it give oil, gold, cubes?
does it give anything you can use outside that content?

[undone plover]

iirc that weakness in OpSi is bugged and does not work
so u should just ignore it

there are skills that buff general torp dmg (from surface torpedoes and airplane torpedoes) for example mogador and there are others that only buff surface torpedo dmg for example noshiro muse

[soft dagger]

ye the number is not it. La-9 good i get it, it's a good guide i've read it and i get it, good writings too. just the number is not it to the point it's confusing

[cobalt rapids]

10% boost maybe for going from fockewulf to la-9 but abit more due to avi bonus

[soft dagger]

sure, with amagi and mogador as well, sure. but idk, tech diff?

[polar venture]

should i be spending most of my time in opsi?

[cobalt rapids]

i have indeed not considered mog and amagi so less actually then

[soft dagger]

you get gear mats from there

[cobalt rapids]

well amagi doesnt matter

[soft dagger]

ye it's impla breaching 300k and unzen being so low is kinda surprising. small sample size too small to be comparable, yes (it's one run )

[crude fable]

oh tysm

[eager mulch]

[cursive lark]

Dang that clears magato

[cursive lark]

Was that magato?

[keen sable]

Whose magato

[soft dagger]

i assume nagato meta

[keen sable]

Whose not who is

[soft dagger]

then no, it's nagato meta

[keen sable]

Is this an assist?

[soft dagger]

no, it's not fair with an assist

what? the paper is not tested with assist right?

[cobalt rapids]

as in ur own fight vs assist fight aka with supp barrage vs without

[soft dagger]

without support barrage, sorry bad english

[spice phoenix]

how good of a cv is amagi? is it worth MLBing her now or should i save my UR bulins for upcoming musashi rerun?

[cobalt rapids]

worth mlbing her now

u can get more bulins till musashi rerun

[spice phoenix]

when is musashi rerun anyway? (is date released?)

[eager mulch]

no

[polar venture]

is the intimacy thing worth doing?
does it give oil, gold, cubes?
does it give anything you can use outside that content?

[inland shoal]

Idk if some of the missions for the first 7 days did but other than that no

[polar venture]

lame

[storm heron]

tbh raises eyebrows, but like that's for #game-feedback

[eager mulch]

me when sirius stares maidly at me

[turbid latch]

do you actually need to have 2 fleets on w9?

[forest palm]

you can manage 9 without a 2nd, 10 is where the game truly demands it of you

it's just recommendable to start at 9 so you're not scrambling at 10

[turbid latch]

why do you need 2 fleets anyw?

[forest palm]

one to clean the trash, the other to kill the boss

[sweet delta]

I tested that fleet 9 times with the exact +13 implacable gear and 200 affinity, and not once did implacable breach 300k

[soft dagger]

good to know

[keen sable]

Meta. You want 6 powerful ships or 12 powerful ships

Meta. 0 ammo sucks

[grand urchin]

is it too late to get the upgrade piece for Eldridge ??

[soft dagger]

yes, until it get added to the shop. dunno when

[jaunty vault]

too late ❌
too early ✅

[stark quiver]

Until it reruns

[long mesa]

are there any fighters which are actually good against heavy armor or should I just use the slot for timing?

[sweet delta]

/wiki lavo

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Lavochkin_La-9_(Carrier-based_Prototype)

[sweet delta]

are you level 166?

[dusk niche]

What time intervals does the seasonal cruise shop reset for the limited skin reruns?

[long mesa]

hm, I'm surprisingly close to the La-9, maybe I'll spend more cubes for research and try to get it and give it a try

[viscid swift]

spending cubes will do the opposite for getting La-9 prints

[inland shoal]

I have no idea how spending cubes is gonna help you with that
Unless you get Q-ULs all the time

[keen sable]

You mean 0D

[long mesa]

I thought cubes gave more BPs in general

[cobalt rapids]

not gear

[sweet delta]

Ship bps

[long mesa]

oh I guess I'll spend more coins then lol

[cobalt rapids]

spend more plates instead

[left cedar]

Plates researchs better for gears
so less coins, more plates

[sweet delta]

Those gray plates that everyone but me has infinite of

[long mesa]

Rigging analysis?

[left cedar]

i spend more time worring about my grays than my gold ... so i so fucking hard on that

[turbid latch]

what chapter to grind gearboxes and steam catapults?

[cobalt rapids]

w12+

[turbid latch]

my max rn is w8

[cobalt rapids]

push to w12 then

[rose cosmos]

How many spots should I expand my dock into?250?

[cobalt rapids]

as many as possible

check /gems

[rose cosmos]

So I’m at 200 spots now, is the 2nd floor worth more now

[sweet delta]

2 floor is worth no matter how many dock slots you have

[turbid latch]

for the meantime, should I just use the blue ones instead?

or do opsi for materials