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Killing stuff faster means there's less planes to shoot down.
Literally the only thing Vestal can do is shoot down planes, and shooting down all the planes won't end the level.
naruhodo
Is there a specific upgrade I should on nagato meta?
ty
vestal endless plane shooting simulator 
so she would have a usecase in a level fleet with super weak vanguards when they can't protect main fleet literally
and main fleet can't kill enough to help themselfs
I think even if you add vestal to that you'd still lose
Even akashi won't save you 
Yeah, Akashi once saved my leveling fleet like that, was smoother than with the CV I had before. Only issue is ofc that you're stuck with leveling an AR
on non-event days what do you guys generally grind?
Most basic is 12-4
what is needed on this stage?
leveling your ships in that stage
thanks
It just ship exp and coins you farm there
i just slap whatever ships that can finish the stage right? or is there any standard comp to increase exp efficiency?
No just use 6 ships you wanna lvl / whatever you need for PR grind
I sometimes do random stuff like farming drop only ships like yuudachi from 6-4 or foxes but I would only do it if you already got enough coins saved up to keep up good researches etc
how do you even accelerate research mats for gears for example Prototype vit-2
I am not sure about that specific gear but there is gear you can get gearprints from research
Should I use Sea Hornet on Fighter slot?
Q researches really help with gear, otherwise if it is craftable you can do your monhtly opsi to get enough
Sure? It's one of the good bomb fighters
Just not sure if it would be good thanks
It's on par with pancake and Tigercat as long as AA isn't a concern
Btw BTD Destroyers are worse than purple Helldivers
Yeee I mean I mostly do historical larp and have like 1 or two premade fleets for hard content hence why I have so many of x plane
You should see my Atago with like purple twin 203mm guns 
I don't think doing things in a game counts as "live action"
True but still is a type of roleplay no?
whats the best way to farm a ship to be able to oath it? and how long would it take roughly?
does it matter if i farm 1-1 with her or 12-3?
nope, all give same as of current knowledge
so if i wanna marry 6 ships- i just put them all in same team and farm 1-1?
12-1 better because you also get exp and coins
they are max already
plus even if you do 1-1 to rush it, you'll be capped by morale
imma put them into dorm then
Also 1-1 has no oil cap
Is there a way of grinding coins whilst I'm still W8?
Push w9 then start farming 9-1
Pretty much yea
w9 up has oilcap and after sortie rewards (iirc) so farming those are better
What difference does enabling/disabling auto search and clearing mode? I can't really understand the explanation in game
Auto search goes straight to the boss as soon as it spawns
or was that clearing mode mb I forgor
I see, what would the other do?
I think it's just the same
Other one*
If you turn off clearing mode then autosearch will be turned off then you'll have to press on the nodes manually
Ah so it's basically just auto mode or manual mode / straight to boss or fight fleets before boss
clearing mode disables map gimmicks, for hard mode this makes only the boss spawn
auto search is the auto clear function that can only be toggled on when you're in clearing mode
Map gimmicks?
events can have stuff like poison tiles, blocked tiles, special enemy barrages, etc
for campaign this also disables ambushes even if you don't have enough recon
Ah I see
there's also a few other things for ch14 and 15 but probably not something you need to know in detail now
yes, which is also only turned on in clearing mode
so your initial map clears may cost more if you can't send less ships
also for hard mode since mob nodes only spawn without clearing mode, you can't really cut costs for clearing mob nodes to get 3-stars
Yeah I've noticed that
Normally for clearing campaign you don't bother saving oil
Since clearing it is better than trying to save oil and failing in turn costing more oil
Oh okay, good to know
well assuming "normal" progression you rarely have a lot of headroom to send less ships to clear
you also get less commander XP, which could keep you locked out of later chapters and need to stay to grind anyway
Ah I see
True less ships less commander exp
W9 is where it's recommended to start using a second fleet right?
W9 is where you start building your second fleet since it's easier to exp farm with oil cap
it's where you could start consider raising a second fleet since oil cap limits your leveling costs
It doesn't necessarily force you to use 2 fleets asap
depending on what ships you actually have and their levels you can push to ch12 with 1 fleet even
I started doing 2 fleets around w11 our progression might be different but you can use that as estimate
So just having a second fleet but not using the second fleet?
you need to use the second fleet to level the ships, what you could do is start swapping higher level ships out
and level 1-2 ships at a time
you can't really drag significantly underleveled ships along until ch12
Add more levels to them and you'll do fine easily
Port retro yea?
Just making sure since I don't recognize her chibi anymore
levels and LB look fine, I'd use Nelson as flagship so she levels faster, plus you'll want the BB to be flag for best suicide boat coverage
Get that retro for portland
unicorn should get prio for retrofit though
retrofit Unicorn first 
Oh true I didn't see that lol
where can I grind the parts needed for her>
Yea do unikai>porty>nelson
Hard mode drops the blueprints
Ah
X-1 Destroyer
X-2 Cruiser
X-3 Battleships
X-4 CV
quite annoying with the 3 per day limitation but that's good to know
So for uni you'd want any X-4 hard stage
theres no higher drop rates at higher worlds right?
Keep in mind that higher hard mode chapters increase the core data drop
For blueprints as far as I know rates stay the same

Wait one more thing, do higher world hard modes drop more blueprints?
no, only difference is chapter 3 onwards it drops gold retro blueprints
do the highest you can, that's all
How would I be sure of what the highest I can do is?
Trial and error?
Sweet thanks
I am confused as hell why Sandy always MVP in my mob
Where did those damage come from??
AA
do you have her unique augment equipped perchance
retrofit Sandy also does decent ish surface damage
both retrofit and augment
Augment gives her a psuedo main gun, so shes still doing actual damage even if you take away her gun
if you want to reduce sandys damage as much as possible, you would also need to remove her augment
the bigger question is why are you concerend about her MVP
If you're thinking about manipulating mvp exp bonus don't bother
I just realized recently when clearing 14-4
sandy also has pretty good asw if she is the one carrying hedgehog
if you're clearing it matters even less
so she has a lot of aa, great dps, good asw
so sandy is very much gonna be taking a lot of mvps

(i am number one)
Thanks for the translation
What is the most worth thing to get from merit shop?
Bulins
Ships aren't worth then?
Not early on , eventually you want some of the eagle subs and Eldridge
If a ship is 125 and EXP capped, does it contribute to Research exp?
Is odin much better than alvitr?
I dont think my mob will survive 15-1, sandy carried everyone in 14-4.
Idk how AvP survives but mostly manual'd it
Any recommended non-event ship for w15?
is that base bismarck
sadly yes
There is 0 reason for using base Bismarck , half the gold BBs are better then her 
you could read the w15 guide in the bot command /w15
idk if i have those bbs

anyways your fleet needs a makeover
if that's the best you have , id recommend to wait till you have better ships to tackle w15

Motherfkwr has 3 rainbow BBs and still using goddamn Bismarck
i see 5
Well not maxed so sure
aight
also do /w15 in bot spam and read that, it also has sample fleets
in my experience alsace absolutely slams in most content, I'd go for that 
Bro...my Boss Fleet Backline havent changed since i joined and since clearing W2
Etsu Fleet Update & Dump
Why does it feel like my morale consumption is faster when I put mob to fight the boss too when I'm just adding one more fight to their 6 fight count
Cause your ships could be dying
might be due to mob block too
Don't think this is the case since it's just 12-4
2x reward?
when you are using 6 shitters they may have problems
It doubles morale consumption and oil
I wouldn't even call amagicv tosa lusty mogador eldrigekai sanfran shitters
if i immediately finish this ship's development after switching, can I go back to FdG or do I have to wait 24 hours regardless?
latter
if im not coining anything, think its worth just swapping to start coining saint louis and take a day off fdg tech gathering?
ty
yes, quite a bit
but at the same time Odin isnt really considerd a high priority to go for, esp when other top SR BBs that are more easily avaliable work just fine until you get URs
one fight on it's own isn't the worst but it does rather quickly snow ball
coudn't it also be that maybe one of his ships sinks and then loses more morale due to that?
that's only if one ship is losing more morale than the rest of the fleet, doing one more fight each sortie does add up
Is Flandre much better than Richelieu?
yes
tyty

Did they change which story stage drops cognitive chips? I heard chapter 12 drops them but I'm not seeing them being part of the pool
they’re rare

they don't always drops
Does w 15 drop more cog chips on avg same with w 14 then 12??
Iirc 15 more but much more effort. Not sure, might be around same as 14
Hmm i dunno what's wrong with my 14-3 mob fleet, at like 4th enemy some of them will get ridiculously damaged
Mainly the CVLs, maybe I'll just go 2 BBs/BCs?
Maybe subs are getting through
maybe? no they totally are 

Does 2x oil plan give 2x exp too or is it just ships oil and coins
Everything is doubled (except for number of clears)
👍
Also the morale consumption is double too so keep that in mind
That is indeed part of the everything
Finally ran out of cognitive chips, only 300 left. What to do? Start world 13 farming or just wait until I've done enough dailies?
continue as you were really, just be more selective in who you uncap
They do not, Perseus, and Unicorn have ASW planes aux, Laffey II got the hedgehog, and sumner got the purple asw weapon
Persy should still be booted for a better cv
I reiterate, drop Perseus, she's weight practically
What CV tho any recommendations
Anyone decent is better than persy
Almost any ship
Aquila
or volga
Oh lucky I have both on lvl 125
Also swap Zwei for Musashi
Ok ok thanks
Yea you'd benefit with zwei on boss more
and swap An Shan and Sumner for 2 higher damage ships/or ships with better utility
What equipment on aquila tho? Double fighters?
yes for healer mode
Name 2
plymouth sandy
I have Hindenburg
Harbin plymouth
Unzen, Sandy, Plymouth, Harbin, Shimanto, Bayard, Mogador, Shimakaze
Who tf is bayard
Ok ok thanks, I'll deal with the problems in boss fleet later
oh sweet child
armpit PR7 ship
Pr7
Oh the new pr I haven't built
you may as well do it now
zwei implac haku agir jda yuudachi at least that was my fleet when I cleared it 
gimme one sec
How about bis zwei new jersey and yorktown 2
I wouldn't do nj
I would do NJ 🥵

Just trust cheeky he was part of who built my w14 fleet
What about the boss vanguard?
guam jda unzen
Can i send a quick video here of my fleet?
Just take screenshots
Make thread
Ok ok
no videos pls
Ill take ss
\
Bruh my amagi cv, soyuz ain't even 125 😭
there's plenty of other subs, not that they even need to be 125
TAIHOU's fleet pics
yeah but i was hoping to get more fleet tech and 120s
Is it worth the gems to unlock all the dorm slots
yeah but there's not much you can really do to get out of the chip shortage
you're not going to be able to dramatically increase your chip income just by grinding more/in better spaces
if you're F2P no do #bot-spam /gems
/gems
Gem Spending 101
Gems
in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.
As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.
Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.
This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:
- 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
- Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
- Dock space (remaining gems)
The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.
The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.
Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).
Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).
While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.
oh my bad ig
who tf did /gems in not #bot-spam
i thought they wanted to do the command but didnt work cos on second line of message
or was it done behind his back
meh its fine, bot we're just fooling around
it was done by Ender I believe
although personal bot commands should be taken to bot spam so they don't clog up the chat
the large block of text scared me, i demand compensation
does anyone else get the phenomenon of guild boss HP lowering to 1x bar after the big nuke and then just plops over dead after 1 second?
no followup damage; just keels over after some kind of lag
Ender escaped his cage
Warning Ender has Breached Containment ⚠️
Im starting to do W12, do i need to raise San Diego
for W12 no
and W13?
Not need but is good idea
I would raise Sandy for W13 if you don't have any other good AA options
if i discard a level 120 ship i do not lose the tech bonus right?
i mean, the tech bonus i am pretty sure does not disappear, but what about the stat one?
yes
so it stays even discarding? sorry if i double check
yes it stays !!!
it does stays

I didn't have the ships and equipments for the boss fleet thos so i used this fleet and just played it on manual
Sumner and Roon died before the boss died luckily
14-4 here i go
rip
you could have used Agir, Shimakaze, Anchorage for the boss vanguard
I'm gonna be honest I forgot to change the boss fleet to try out the mob fleet you gave me 💀
https://i.imgur.com/9fFzffx.jpeg think rich is worth taking to 125, or should I be waiting for FdG and other better BBs to 125 first?
if you had to uncap a ship to 125 right now it would be Amagi CV
only helena and amagi cv worth there

helena is really worth the 125?
Also you wouldn't (or more like shouldn't) be using Richy in content where lvl 125 maters
she needs to survive
She's a great support so yea
and I don't see her getting powercreep soon mainly because bb support is non-existent
gotcha, i didn't invest too much into helena because i imagined she would get replaced soon
if you 125 other ships, expect them not to be mentioned at all
my two fleets atm are:
Mob: richelieu, unicorn, saratoga, anchorage, laffey, fargo
Boss: nelson, amagi (CV), enterpirse, pittsburgh, helena, l'aud
She's very useful for bossing when you need to boost your dmg
7 years, we never really manage to kick helena out of the fleet building
ok will spend some more effort on her, thank you!
Tbh I don't even use her anymore since ships are just that strong now
But yea until then you'll be glad that you build here
I like helena meta more but her support is ass but I really like her specially her mvp quote 🥵
on average helena boost 24% of the whole damage of the fleet, which definitely more than any vanguard could contribute
so lets say im doing meta bosses, helena should 100% be in the vanguard regardless?
my whatever single boss fleet: richelieu, unicorn, amagi (CV), anchorage, l'aud, fargo
whenever I do content that is only one fleet, I always thought that was my best fleet^
You only need to time your salvo/airstrikes if you want helena to be useful
the only reason not to use helena is because RnG exist so the variant on the damage boost is large, it can be like 0% damage boost when radar scan do not proc at all to 60% when they all proc with an average of 24%
It's more like can you time your shit to sync with helena
or not really 24% whole fleet, since it is 50% uptime and you can't fully sync vanguards, more like 22% with 50% max and 0% low
Cuz if you can't then I feel like you'd be better of just running another dps vg
source numbers: trust me bro
if im only autoing, never actually doing anything manual - another dps vg?
No even on auto you have to time your salvo/airstrike when you use helena
That's the point of syncing, to squeeze everything on helena's scan uptime
sorry im not sure i understand that to be honest, you mean time it with gear specifically?
or like physically press a button on screen
I'm too brainless to explain this I just came back to the game
Yes that's why the champagne gun is prio for +13 it syncs easily with helena's skill
Somebody help me explain 
with gear
Some planes are fast, some r slow
And then there's a slowing accessory, iirc
if you have no idea about backline attack timing, helena effectiveness decreases, but unless you fucked up hard, she will still provide something, so it's hard to say if you should use a simple dps ship over her
There's a website that calculates the timings
I am way too brainded and lazy to sync
gotcha ok thank you, I need to do a bit more digging into gear as I start working on w13/14


You won't benefit much with helena on campaign simply because you prefer to not sync your backline in campaign
We do suggest building her for content like META and opsi
hmm ok
Hi, would I need another team I just finished 6-4?
Not really you're free to do single fleet until w9
Just focus on one fleet for now
Oh she is? damn I'm outdated I don't even know she has augment 
100% enty should still be better iirc but realistically thats not happening
soup who’s your favorite shipfu
idk uni or smth
I'd still prefer suggesting enty than telling them to make augment this early tbh
I wouldn’t
time to 
That's not even an mlb shangrila
its almost there, id rather not waste the 2 bulin he already invested
Yea true but I noticed late since when was shangrila ssr
all essex class are atleast super rare
No? Wait yeah they are nvm

certified EN moment

unless he's doing "next week clearing ch 15", it's not a big deal if he uses keeps using srl or raise enty tbh...
in best (or worst?) case he one fleet cleared ch 12, he will still need more carriers for ch 13
Shangri-La would be best for rapid progression either way
stoping to level Enty would just cost time at this point
Just use enty in boss 
They'll probably level enty anyway at w9 
Who's enty?
Enterprise
This one?
Yeah , shes one of the best CVs in the game
wouldn't really guess it with how she has one skill 

Is there an augment tier-list?
i dont think so, and if have one maybe CN
ectl has this
think that devs make a aug bad than defaults its laughable
Is this intended ? I just gave Cruiser retrofit to Plymouth and I can't switch it back
💀 shit system
Frankly that's a skill issue on your part
Now I don't know what to do
wait 24 hours probably
see you tomorrow
simple, w8 faster
I am gated by hard mode
Ah, maybe I should push my campaign, the dragon something dd is not usable outside (they will die)
Wait how good does the izumo augment make her?
pretty good, no UR BB though
Definitely one of the best non URs at least
Ah so not worth my coins 
Only 20k coins 
is this a good pull?
one of the worst super rares in the entire game
so if anything, extremely bad pull
damn, thats unfortunate
I hope you're not just randomly pulling too
it was my free daily
Ah well at least that's 10 medals
Does doing opsi stages reduce my ship morale
but my gambling addiction
no
bad pull decision is always bad in gachas looks back at aquila from zuihou event nvm
save that later when a UR event comes along 
cant gamble for that if you keep gambling on perament pool ships (And yes, even for the Perament URs)
is this good?
I suggest finding a sub cat that has alpa or flame or both as a starting talent
you'll get more steel than bisha or cv cat, so finidng a perfect sub cat shouldn't be too hard
Wyvern can intercept right? So it's ok to use that instead of fighter?
How about Sky raider?
hmm, i got a question about the opsi supply shop for the monthly exchange vouchers.
Seeing how the vouchers are tied to the items bought at the ports, but if someone were keen, they could possibly use up all the coordinates and opsi coins and special item tokens..
..but that would also reduce your "income" for the monthly exchange supply shop..
..is there a rule of thumb we should like hold on to x amount of coordinates / currency so that we could exchange for stuff there?
For what content and what cv
World 13 and above
No, you’d want a fighter like the flapjack
Wyvern not enough even though it intercepts?
Tenrai doesn’t intercept
What

I said Tenrai doesn’t intercept
Yeah I'm kinda confused at their names lol
Oh they said tenrai lol
No I said Tenrai doesn’t intercept
Hmm if not enough flapjacks, seafang or hellcat?
Thx, can link source?
Brain lag, did they say tenrai then edit to wyvern
what brain yes
brainrot

In campaign it should be okay to use wyvern to replace a fighter, though wyvern has a bit slower, has weaker interception, but more surface damage
amagi-chan brainrot is contagious and im spreading it
when cleaning the depot, do you guys just give gear to random ships and scrape the rest?
there should be a safe to scrap
lol with only 300 space even doing that I'm left with more stuff in there than I'd like, gear boxes are waiting for me to open them
i do not open gear boxes
you can also scrap the ones not listed in safe to scrap because you dont need more than like 3 of each left inside
is sirius tier 2 placement in ectl correct or is she undertiered?
also you can scrap lower rarities of one item if you have enough of the higher rarity one already e.g. no need for blue and purple hellcats if you have gold hellcats
oh nice to know
only the gold one can be crafted up anyway
Is Tai Yuan's retro item not obtainable as of now?
it is not available yes
Does this apply to tenrai? Not that I have 3 tenrai
Why would you scrap UR gear
Questions pertaining to ECTL are better asked on their server since the site is run by dedicated fans, but basically her placement is mainly due to her buff utility
imo underrated
but if you disagree go argue on their server, they will definitely welcome you with their warm hands
if you happen to be not trolling, never scrap UR gear
never understimated people dumbness ...
Watch people brick thier accounts by scrapping asw
Spend 1500 core data on Z flag and scrap it
kinda the problem with sirius is she isnt much chonky to survive in some places like METAs constantly, she also isnt much aside her CV buff, so in her niches where she fits and survive, she is really gud, but once she does get killed fast that dosnt help much
Main problem with Sirius is she’s got the life span of a dog that just ate a kilogram of chocolate
i dont think sirius does much in campaign
Using her in campaign would be really weird since by the time she’s useful she’s too fragile to be useful
btw, i known someone that scraped hedge and hes account have gigatons of skins and etc...
Bro fighting for his damn life
yep, main use of sirius is in opsi and some meta shodown i can guess
what about those scrapping braver squad tag
? that is real bad too
how about this? seeing how i only use 3u
far as i know, no, i dont know someone dumb at this point
In OpSi if Sirius can last for 2 air strikes that’s more than enough
Bad actually, not good not really bad
exp is just for feeding right?
The faction buff restricts it and sub skills are better
can be used, but not top, cuz u will lack one talent in the end, 1 KMS, 1 TRP only ... ideally u wanna something like
Flames, Wolfpack, TRP+RLD or RLD talents ... the one that will remain, u can get between miracle or TRP only talent
Check out how exquisitely bad my Steel is
rip have to wait more
Flame is just better
I’m tired of rerolling her
wut is the start ones ?
Flame Rookie Officer IB Rookie Officer
well, if KMS SSs, them is quite a thing ... worth it
Yeah I got 47 37 and 101, soon to be replaced with 96 once she’s 120
in the end, is almost exactly with the guy above
Every time I reroll her I swear the talents get worse
one of my oldest cat is one Antenna, and i'm rerolling her for ... idk, almost 3y ?
Edelweiss though he’s my special boy
lacking "uniques" but yeah, worth it
As for how I have so many level 30 cats did you know cats will continue to gain XP in the catforts even if you quit the game for 3 years
What meta do I farm after I get Helena meta
idr how they got XP if its passive or by clinking in they confs thing dailly or passivle + conf dailly thing
So all of my cats in the cat forts instantly became level 30 
It’s both
i got something like 23 cats lvl 30, mostly of them are feeds for eventuall betters cats ... specially BBs, cuz i lack a purfect cat for that
Should I craft this?
do you need it
No, I guess the answer is no 
It's pretty niche
The main gimmick is that it can hit submarines, but that could be both a good or bad thing depending on what kind of targets you're trying to prioritize in W14/15-3 and W14/15-4
Can't sirius buff there when sirius doesn't exist?
It doesn't matter whether she'll last right?
What? Her buff is persistent , she can die the first second and she fulfills her job
Exactly
Sorry I was unsure when reading this paragraph
Maybe sirius is with plygun and gold quad mags and anti air to protect cv concealment so she needs to survive
she cant beat things like Guam or Sandy in that point ... as some mention above, she can deal with Op.Si and few METAs, but not all content ...
The main issue with Sirius dying is exposing your middle ship
when Sirius dying is completely fine
Sounds like misinformation considering kazagumo would be a piece of shit by that standard
How long does it usually take for events to rerun
1 year at least
in excess of 2 years at this point
cherish your events


What gear should I have on agir if I’m like a mid game player
though you probably can make a Triple 305 if you're researching Agir 
terrible
gold quint mag 
I don’t have one that’s quad 💀💀
you'd use a purple triple mag, but that's for syncing her slow, and uh...ya no you don't need that
also Quint Magnetic is a terrible investment
you can use agir once shes dev25 otherwise you should probably use a different tank first
(She'd still want to be D30 asap tho like all research ships)
currently leveling all my URs at once when i have the oil but not the time
my fdg is maxed soon, how viable is it to run vanguard together with an incredibly weak shinano and amagi cv in 12-4?
doesnt vanguard work better with other bbs?
wym, im leveling them to make them strong :v
for example my brest is dying all the time, levels are the only thing i can actually get that makes her tanky that isnt timegated
i believe when they are out of this auto 3x run fdg will be 125 and the only URs ill have left unleveled are brest, shima, ply, nano, amagi and vanguard
all other (imo) useful ships are leveled, no time to manual, oil overcapping regularly
sounds like a gear issue
could always toss the ships you want leveled into 10hr commission 
yes, yes it is, but im not gonna swap gear around all the time when i have little time left anyways
I’d rather level purple tech fodder than raise useless URs
im still doing daily opsi so i have to swap gear if i want to run that and level them at the same time
so put the gear on ships you're gonna be using most often then i.e. the ships you're leveling
i just wanted to know if double cvs and vanguard with suboptimal shit can run 12-4 or if i need a carry :c didnt look like such a big question
answer is it depends on the whole fleet, you could always just do 1 test run and if you lose then not much lost since youre overcapping oil anyway
but if your main fleet is as weak as you say then your vanguard fleet better be good
why not do 12-1 instead of 12-4 if you're struggling
almost d30 plymouth with her gun is all can offer
if the URs are mlb then they should be at least lv70, not hard to get up to at least 90 with books
im not struggling i was asking while i wait the last runs out :c
Between these ships which are better on Mob fleet?
Agir
Hindenburg
Unzen
Guam
well
yea thats why ive been leveling her 
in addition to enemies dealing less damage you'll also be killing enemies faster hopefully
Hinden, and Unzen can by tossed into a mob fleet, Agir is better off in a BB Fleet, and Guam a CV fleet, both Agir, and Guam can work in any boss fleet, Guam more so if you need AA 

mobbing and bossing where exactly
has boss fleet definition changed, or is boss fleet still referring to both campaign boss fleet and the one used in harby/abyssals
oh yea, who gets my improved quad torps btw? ive got a shima, or do i just give it to my maxed ägir or the plymouth?
I wouldn't necessarily build both the same
are you using shima?
im leveling her rn and shes 10/10/7 booked, but missing last lb
probably gonna use her in a mob fleet after, no?
what a joke
leveling as in feeding in dorm?
this guy is leveling useless non mlb URs
no as in im leveling my last 6 unmaxed URs in the same fleet rn 
in 12-4 and wondering why they’re fucking failing
omg 
they are not
what a fucking joke
and i said that 5 times already, i cant check while my current auto is going on and was just asking if i could replace my fdg with an amagi cv and still run em
I mean non-mlb could work but like do you not have any better ships to level?
nope
lots of oil, little time, always running event stages or 12-4 on auto when i can
12-4 should be hella easy so just about anything works so yes
Rainbow brainrot
at this point, this is my stand
but the point does still stand, you probably do have better things to level than non MLB URs
why mlb something that you can't even use
i could level stuff for tech points sure, but i could also level those urs to fill my opsi fleets with better than trash ships 
the URs are the trash ships
no SRs?
non mlb URs are probably worse then your definition of trash ships
literally rainbow brainrot
13-4 brainrot
i mean if you wanted good opsi fleets you could you know post your dock in a thread
im ready to see the group of non mlb URs and sea of gold and purple tech fodder
finally done, fdg at 90% exp
i wouldnt call a mlb vanny, shina and decently developed brest (hehe) trash tho
missing one bullin for mlb shima too
Should I replace Helena META for Wakatsuki?
idk about replacing fdg with something close to a common carrier
wait you said your shinano is weak then who else are you using as a cv
why not just invest into shinano as a carrier and you wont have problems
unicorn and sara 
doubt it would make any significant difference tbh
i mean, true, i could dump sara for good and focus on shina
was always enough until now 
just get better gear..... and slap on some at least half decent stuff on shinano 
this one was the best, yes? i might be able to buy the remaining 3 thingies right now
Is Ibuki barrage 80% or am I tripping?
nvm im missing 212 tokens
you might want to prioritize something first before that
may i direct you to this screenshot
you haven't maxed her skill yet then
oh wait yeah how do u know
wyverns are your best friend
oh 
wyverns are ur tho and something thats severely more expensive than flapjacks
because I didn't have her skill maxed before her augment dropped either
but you might want to save up the gold aircraft bps for the wyvern crafting tree
if you dont have selectors
im just going by ectl rn but since you always say its not accurate im asking again since all i have is a f6f
also everything wants electric components
spearfish are my best friend
ectl is dogshit
ye see, hence me asking
again i shall direct you to this very helpful screenshot
but also /equip
how good dev30 dr ships compared to their mfs? like in percentage
/equip
Equipment Guides and Tier Lists
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🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
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use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
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ermm actualy
max fate sim
motherf-
you can’t quantify that
you had me concerned about mfs

well first only 4 DRs have fate sims, 2nd, the strength of their Fate sims vary
let along trying to quantify it
mfs stands for meowficcers, not max fate sim, that is fsV
except haku’s 18%
mfs stands for [a]magi-chan fans
so dev30 haku only got 82% of her max potent?
okay understood, but let me rephrase my question a little, i only have f6fs for fighters, can i make any upgrades before i get to the point where i can make flaps in probably half a year 
my Amagi Chan is now 100 aff
Dev30 haku is 100%, fs5 haku is 118%
dev30 haku is 100%, fs5 haku is 118%
ahh okk ic
iirc fdg fatesim pretty good too
not that would be worth the cost in terms of fighter bombers
tyy
fighter bombers?
fighters with bombs
where 
im not going to snail again so what cheeky said
bomb fighters, the standard one carrying 2x100s or 500s
personally if youre not looking to do hard content yet i dont think the fighters matter too much as long as theyre decent enough, and also opsi grind IS incredibly long therefore you want to prioritize the best stuff first
fighters with bombs
so they ARE fine?
120,000 ms ping
yes
Which event had the HVAR planes?
I just wanna procrastinate and not start writing my essay
yes fine for whatever you are going to use
Parallel superimposition
Parallel Superimposition

hey I capitalized correctly
well if you have less good stuff things will be harder, but whether that affects you from clearing content depends on everything else you have and the content you’re doing
oh my lord the path to wyvern costs so many electric components... now i see what you mean
just a roundabout way of saying “it depends”
yis
The event should rerun early 2025 right?
at the earliest
if you're lucky, they will come right before cny
Gonna farm 20 HVAR planes
with the 7 days surprise
6 should be more than adequate
with or without drop rate bug
also, don't underestimate how long it'll actually take to farm 20 and why doing that in a week is impractical
personally as a player who hasnt done too much hard content whatever jank gear as long as its decent works fine for the most part because all the good gear is in opsi and i only started grinding 3 months ago 
what about spearfish? that one is much more affordable 
Oh I forgot the rerun's just 1 week 
if you have 7 mob fleets its doable to farm 24/7 if you had enough oil
which will be about 3200/hr
have someone to watch and retire docks when you sleep
they are gonna press the buttons every 15 minutes
9 T3 Ordinance reports is the opposite of affordable
requirement is to get someone in ur room but how
what else uses those? i havent checked all the lab stuff yet, so far all the stuff i want needs the other ur things
test reports are way harder to come by plus wyverns have intercept so itll be more useful for more aa
457 and drake gun, of which 457 is the best usecase until you have 2 of them
457, and bear in mind to get any number of those in a reasonable amount of time you'll need to craft them from T2s at a rate of 8 to 1
is it worth converting tho because ive been tempted to do it for the past week 
if you have nothing else to spend those Ordinance reports on sure
good point
one 457 from protocore is mostly sufficient as like a mob bb gun, but 2 is good if you want to use BB fleet for bossing opsi/meta fights else pvp if you’re interested in that
the other issue is Tenrai is dropping into the gear sooner rather than later
it is either 457 or the one before with 10% damage
apparently i havent done any researches with the 457, i was hoping i had some more, yeesh
is it pr2?
looks like my la-9 prints
i just remembered something else, does any other ship also want a ply gun?
yes
my testing has told me that 457 in BB comp does better than champagne gun for meta fights and harbiter because it has more salvos on low/zero tech
technically any ship that wants a good cl gun
bb wants that, cl wants that, dd wants that
okay good, since im back up to 7 designs and still need to finish plys last few devs and almost 10 for brest
was lucky today too 
amagi chan wants that
only the best for amagi chan
Anything that is a CL or a BB (rare to see on a DD, unless CL gun bonus stats from it)

i was told to research and coin avp, do i use her with shinano and at what dev she viable?
30
Almost all PR and DR would do at Max, plus AvP is an Implacable Alternative
getting the exp took much longer than i would have liked
that is unfortunately how the pr system works but also how the rest of the game works
ive exhausted my 9001 questions for today
, time to finish my daily opsi and go to sleep
rip NJ, she could not survive when I replace my eldrige sirius with drake ibuki
Avp needs her fs5
She is basically like Ply were if you don't have her on dev 30, her use only is her skills
How to efficiently grind the "accumulate faction exp" research mission
use 3 ships that meet the requirements in W12+
faction fleet 
IM still w5
pretty much it or if you cant w12 then daily drive the fleet with the 3 ships on all content like i do 
but if youre very new then i suggest focus on other stuff before the research ships
Too late IM researching roon
ignore it until you get to w12 then
Ignore it until you’re in W12 then
farming exp in w5 is going to take you way more time than pushing to w12 first, then farming there
Uh huh
Ark Royal is honestly more consistent than AvP before her FS5.
AvP’s RNG before FS5 makes her too inconsistent to rely on in OpSi for rooting bosses
is ayanami still a good ship to have in fleet compare to like laffey retorfit etc
ayanami is discount shima
Depends on the content on you're doing and what other ships you have in your dock
she's decent (Albeit mainly for manual bossing), but both of them are still relatively irrelevant overall
Yeesh Warspite
And why is Portland in the wrong position
Belfast is also pretty meh
oops
do you have a second fleet or is this your only one
don’t tell cheeky
i have 2 more fleets
just start a thread and post your dock at this point
what bps does x-4 hm give again?
CV
thanks
What king of CV is required for chapter 2 hard mode, cuz I only have one type of CV that fits, and I want two fleets
any honestly
whoever best u have
No I mean
CV like lexington, saratoga
The only CV I have that fit the requirements for chapter 2 hard mode is eagle
lexington and yorktown come early
But I want two fleets, so I gotta get another one
Oh ok, how do I get them?
Oh ok thx
Washington looks to have great potential as mob BB depending on barrages
how do you determine these things?
it came to me through divine prophecy
it came to me looking at Amagi Chan's rice balls
35 FP, 20 hit.
Lance inherent effect.
Skill upgrade:
+15% FP
Every 20s, 70% chance to fire old "strong" barrage.
At 10s and every 20s after, fires an arcing barrage. If it hits a BB/BC or if a hit enemy dies within 3s, the next old barrage +30% chance and strengthened
hood powercrept
Bulldog: 🚮
🐂 🐶 
What is “Lance inherent effect”
Hiei META + 4 crystals or Hiei META and all the weapons skins
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Lance
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Lance_of_the_Golden_Age
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Lantern_Festival
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Vacation_Lane_-_Venus_Visitation
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Vacation_Lane_-_Cozy_Days
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Vacation_Lane
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Juustagram/Vacation_Lane
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Azur_Lane_Wiki
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Best_Wishes_to_Azur_Lane!
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memory_Lane
nice one
wtf he deleted his track 
removed by mods
up to you but you can get hiei crystals outside the event while you can’t get the gear skins outside the event
I guess the last one seems interesting, if it kills said enemy
Fair enough
which works for mobbing
so her upgrade acts more like if mobbing takes longer than usual, so she can deal more and clear more than the typical instant burst that modern released ships have
what im getting is barrage every 10s, which we love barrage spam
she's basically a good early BB
I still want to see what the barrages are actually like but it seems interesting enough
could've been better if it was based on main gun shot or did I misread it to be fixed from the 1st 10 seconds then it fires to the next 20 seconds?...
cheeky they gave a 12 gun battleship cruiser dispersion
old barrage fires every 20s starting at 20s, new barrage fires every 20s starting at 10s
so 10s new, 20s old, 30s new, etc
so its still a fixed timed barrage, noted (just with reduced time on the first barrage this time)
oh, forgor the new arcing barrage 
Anyone worth getting? (Guild shop(I think) )
enterprise

That's Medal shop not guild
Which is Enterprise* >= Hood* > Sirius == San Diego > everyone else in terms of pratical priority
*If you already have either of the two via pulls or rookie missions, you can get the other
im not reading all that
Ah, right. (I just read it all(I don't understand) )
Basically Hood and Enterprise are the best ships in the medal shop selection, esp for newer players
If you get one of them from medal shop, you can redeem your rookie misson reward for whoever you didnt pick
still not reading all that
Amagi Chan is cute
yes but just 2 augments and only one of any interest at all
@elfin hollow support thee luck by my will.
Poor Sandy getting dissed
who did this guy just ping
hey all, trying to 3* 15-3. struggling a bit on the last few out of ammo stages. other than quitting out and retrying is there any suggestions on changes to my mob fleet? (I dont have Musashi yet)
is it on safe?
I'm pretty sure you can do better than NJ
Question, how good is Hiei META? She seems to be doing quite a bit so far, but I'm not exactly sure
Probably about the same as every gold META BB, good mobber and nothing particularly special about them. Her skill that reduces evasion rate of enemies might make her useful for anti-light bb comps.
Ah, gotcha
It's a good thing I put her on my PR grind fleet then...
she does not count for pr xp
not much tbh
laffy2 should tank
try a better BB than NJ
try to clear all 3 star nodes when you have ammo
call sub for fighting 3 star nodes on 0 ammo
i dont have all the UR BBs. ive got NJ, Biz2, Soyuz, Alsace, Vanguard, FDG
META ships do not count for PR XP Grind
they are their own faction
Zwei, Soyuz, and Alsace would all be better
is it on safe?
i was using Biz2 in my boss fleet
I know, the grind was for Vanguard
is it ignore turtle day?
ill switch over to Alsace and see how it goes then. thanks
Not to be confused with Vanguard, the ship
Apparently, also what gear are you even using
no matter who ignores you, i will always notice you

lemme try it
is it on safe?
if nobody got me I know cooper got me 🗣️
Still trying to find out
should I go and do these
i did 
kinda low TBH
should be fine if you convert the blue prints 
idk why my purple bbs are so low
not sure how much i got, but if i have to say something i think i'm close to 2~3k of each ...
i think ive lesser though since i do hard mode like every other day instead of every day
i did all HMs cuz i like to see full starts all chapters ... but i'm quite old player, if u are beggining, mid or late with low amount of cores, i recommend to keep with higher Ws HM
I just did them when I was doing the Akashi quest
yo cheeky, wut about this nick, who is nyc3001 ?
i live in poverty
ok, i never see that comming, arigathanx anyway
Not too shabby actually
I just used those last 11 prints, I only have 2 retrofit BBs

Damn, I wish there was a trading system in Azur Lane.
Breaking news: Washington is dead
what
washy aug turned out to be 🚮 ?
barrage mod increased, barrage now has lockon
no other real improvements
incresed by ... ?
and how bad is that lockon ?
Better than nothing, I guess.
I'm guessing her new barrage is also nothing special then

by increased, from 70 100 90 to 100 100 100

Equality at its finest.
the overall improvement is small, compared to someone like izumo
Everyone gets the same amount of hurt.
also the new skill effect is too funny that it looks like an error:
+20 fp for 20s when hp is lower than 50%. once per fight
20 fp, not 20% fp

Bruh.
It's the CA augment
Washingtons barrage conditions loooks horrid lol, just remove those man
Where do you guys get that? Do we have Future or cn channel?
CN simply has maintance like 6 hours before ours
and people just datamine the CN Client and translate it
Damn.

Is there a link to the mine?
Probably, I dont have it on me rn
but tbh there's no real reason for a link for dead weeks like this when it's literally just two augments
He yearns for the mines.
not really much to make a whole sheet, it's just Wash + Bulldog UEs 
Ouh right today maintenance
oh right
📣⁉️
erm general chat ☝️ 🤓

I'm busy so nope
what if I say please
Bulldog aug will have +250 HP +15 EVA +20% DmgRed
no way 60% eHP 
F
Few hours
ty ily
just delay by 1 hr ever time someone asks 
good thing gph is dead so no one's gonna ask

how good is washington augment?
without seeing the barrage itself, on paper what is presented she'll probably be a solid early game mob BB imo 
wtf is Ticonderoga plane launch slower than the other Essex class ?
hard to give a proper opinion without ya know testing it, and seeing the barrage 
who to get
have enty
Show pics of the comparison
are we talking about stats, or something, so ambigious la
uh hol on.. this might be a gameplay smth
not stats
you know when CV is ready they launch their planes righ t ??? when the blue circle thing is full
ya that can be caused by a multitude of reasons
??? Like for example, my Essex and Shangri launches the same time, same with Intrepid, just Tico being slightly slow
there stats are almost identical like clones
picture or no proof
hol on stuck in a blood bath in a siren stronghold
I'm timeout, can't screenshot
- planes
- stats
- LB
- level
can all affect launch times
how do you win strongholds ??? feels like the soviet union sending ships after ships
just... use good ships+unicorn

good fleet
adapts
Repair and come back
I like cleared like 90% maps and my adapt stats are like 180 how tf you even get 200+ ???
well what fleet are you using?
not the soviet strat... also I am stuck in one
you can exit to a port to heal and then come back as many times as you want
By playing more?
how much you get on a alrea dy cleared zone ???
what fleet are you using? (2)
Have you bought any of the augments from the ports?
At least 1
wtf ??? thats lot of grinding ???
you are indeed playing a grinding game
Putting together a fleet to use with Amagi CV, for the backline I'm using Nagato and Shinano but would Hakuryuu be a better choice over Nagato?
Shinano/Amagi/Haku is ok, or you can use Implacable instead of Haku
Don't got implacable sadly
. Cheers tho, I'll slot in the dragon instead.
still waiting for those Ticonderoga pics
i guess illustrious? 
all of the gold essex class cvs have 3/3/2 planes, and 132 reload so they should not be different when all maxed with the same gear
show loadout comparison or fake news tbh 
it's fake news
It's actually impossible for 2 ships to launch at exactly the same time IIRC, as there's a cooldown on launch times
Update with only Login event, is the game going eos anytime soon? 
do I lose progress if I leave stronghold ???
no
No
then hol on, last soviet shipfu wave attack
how often does the Siren try to retake back their stronghold ???
once
only once ??? you sure ???
Is washi aug good
no
Do we even have a datamine yet?
no, all the dataminer is busy
ah yuck
But no hood treatment to make it 100% proc?
i dont think dfg said anything with 100%
Lame
wait wtf I port repaired how does my fleet 1 still have resolve debuff ???
Resolve debuff doesn't go away
just win one battle
Just the debuff when you get sunk
3rd airstrike misses most of the time, and i set rld to 35. Any way to max this?
wait wtf why is my TIco reload only 127 ??? She has the same gear
oh wait she doesnt have the golden f4u
Is she fully enhanced?