gameplay-help

[lone knoll]

let me see what they do 1 sec

[still nest]

How did I clear 12-4H then? Wtf

[boreal temple]

Ayanami and belfast is doing nothing there

[rose flicker]

guys may i have a look at your amagi cv's builds? 👀

[spring bolt]

1st is akagi muse, can be replaced with other half preload ship like impero yumi
5th is harbin

[lone knoll]

akai u insta sends a airstrike if even numbered u wow

[still nest]

I need it to meet the hard requirements

[wind hazel]

are you using AP guns?

[boreal temple]

Show nano and impla gear

[lone knoll]

harbin is just a dps?

[zenith heron]

Your san fran and bel needs some changes for better aa

[boreal temple]

An easy solution tbh is just level your good ships higher

[boreal temple]

Harbin is dps yes

[zenith heron]

She has delayed torps tho

[gaunt bison]

quick question, but should I prioritize lightning flash or thunder roar second on shimakaze?

[lone knoll]

what does this implies? more desync for better clearing?

[spring bolt]

basically yes, can be replaced with other dps ships, like ibuki, unzen

[still nest]

I have this

#1291839726873215018 message

[boreal temple]

This reminds me of full preload a few months back

[zenith heron]

Pretty much

[lone knoll]

so the key to autoing strongholds is unicorn and another preload ship ?

[wind hazel]

give them fighter, db, parallel tb

[fluid brook]

Red skill first

[wind hazel]

dont use opsi loadout for campaign

[gaunt bison]

thnx

[boreal temple]

The preload just makes you clear faster it doesn't really help guarantee full auto strongholds

[wind hazel]

especially since 12-2 bosses are Light armour lol

[rose flicker]

dang thats a lot of spearfishes

[still nest]

Oh I can change the gear into vs light armor

[boreal temple]

Opsi loadouts suck at campaign and vice versa

[eager mulch]

im sorry that 2 is a lot to you

[lone knoll]

I think im very far away from being able to do that anyways but its good to plan ahead. Preload = kill faster = take less damage right?

[fluid brook]

I use Musashi pvp setup for both opsi and campaing

[unique lantern]

this might explain why i cant do high opsi stuff properly

[spring bolt]

no, preload/half preload is for faster farming. autoing stronghold is very easy, it's just bb firing animation being too long want waste time irl

[still nest]

Isn't spearfish sucks?

[zenith heron]

This,

Bcs its like asking to use the Bf 109 over the Hellcat in campaign

[boreal temple]

The thing that stopped me from using that are the bosses that makes you take dmg when you heal

[lone knoll]

really? i have never tried it.. maybe ill try

[still nest]

How about hellcat hvar?

[boreal temple]

SInce aquila also heals

[rose flicker]

lemme check can i craft another one

[wind hazel]

use pancake/tigercat/seahornet/hellcat

[zenith heron]

Just slightly expensive than the Wyvern

[wind hazel]

hvar is also not for campaign

[lone knoll]

so we have to have rng of not having heal convert to damage before we auto

[wind hazel]

you want fighters that have interception

[still nest]

But is my san fran and sandy's aa good?

[boreal temple]

Well that's only fpr the boss of the stronghold so yea

[wind hazel]

idk what gear they have so idk

[boreal temple]

I prefer doing my rainbow since it just deletes the boss

[zenith heron]

Just use v4u corsair or normal hellcat if no flapjack/tigercat/sea hornet

[wind hazel]

if anything some of them are underleveled

[lone knoll]

I only managed to 1 shot one stronghold boss, my ships are terriblly built

[still nest]

That's weird I cleared 12-4H using this

[wind hazel]

because different boss hull

[lone knoll]

I only have amaiCV, maybe shinano will help once I get to pity

[boreal temple]

Just level them up for now the higher they are the easier they'll be

[still nest]

Ah I hate this, I don't have more preset slots for campaign

[lone knoll]

at least now i have to fleets at 120/125, last opsi was my first one and i had to heal so many times, but i think gear might be my main usse right now

[boreal temple]

Tbh I gave up on saving presets at this point, just start memorizing

[wind hazel]

just save your opsi loadout. campaign is the same 99% of the time

pancake, helldiver/tenrai, wyvern/barracuda

[soft raft]

Hopefully you don't mean you're gonna use a 0LB Shinano right off the bat 💀

[spring bolt]

3 preloads will overkill and was never recommended. any guide maker endorsed that?

[lone knoll]

no I have ur bulins, i know non max lb is a sin

since I only have 1 ur i have ur bulins

[boreal temple]

It wasn't a guide I just ran it since it was funny

[still nest]

It's my first time hearing pancake, was it flapjack?

[wind hazel]

yes

[zenith heron]

Mhmm

[reef flume]

Rich

[wind hazel]

that weirdass looking plane from gear lab

[still nest]

If that's the case, I will destroy this boss

[spring bolt]

ah ok. put the flame thrower down

[boreal temple]

Can't really blame me for trying yumi uni aquila unzen shima harbin back when unzen first came out

[eager mulch]

I can, no perseus fake preload fleet

[boreal temple]

persy isn't real

[lone knoll]

so let me get this straight, idealy for a mob fleet i want a preload (uni) a fast firing bb/airstrike (maybe use the -4%cd thing) and a slower one (the +4%cd) so I have more uptime on damage skills since they desync?

[zenith heron]

I forgor, but does Mogador's torpedo equip acts like a preload or just fires 2 times hence the 3x2 dmg? Haven't tested it yet

[boreal temple]

You're thinking too much just get uni and aquila or anyother cv preload that isn't persy then just do fdg

[soft raft]

Unicorn yes
For the other two ships, generally you don't resort to HSFCR/Homing beacon for mob but some semblance of staggering would be more advisable, esp on plane heavy content

[boreal temple]

fdg uni preload is like basic opsi mob that can auto strongholds with a strong vg

[fluid brook]

who gets the vg?

[lone knoll]

okay I will just keep focusing on fdg, next opsi I will be able to use her

[wind hazel]

you

[boreal temple]

Dunno what vg you could run I run yatsen retro ddgs back then and they worked just fine

[fluid brook]

oh wait its SG radar just ignore me

[reef flume]

People can I see your Implacable build?

Just curious about it

[strong tartan]

No

[soft raft]

That's very dependent on the content you're gonna use her in

Mob/grinding? OpSi? W15 Support fleet? Be more specific

[boreal temple]

impla is too versatile

[strong tartan]

Wdym

[reef flume]

General use
OpSi bossing

[boreal temple]

general use doesn't exist

[reef flume]

Rip

[rose flicker]

This lineup good? Or change Sirius to Helena

[zenith heron]

The 3×2 torpedo mount during Alsace's Event?

[soft raft]

That's fine

[strong tartan]

It's essentially a quint mount

[soft raft]

Helena's easier to sync with BBs anyways

[boreal temple]

Looks fine normally helena will be in bb fleet

[strong tartan]

Just a different spread

[reef flume]

Ditch Helena

[rose flicker]

thanks

[hollow gust]

For light and medium that's a ballsey frontline

[zenith heron]

I guess its like the UR Quintuple Torp alternative? (Non magnetic)

[strong tartan]

Not really

[soft raft]

Wait I just noticed, why is Sirius main tank

I get that her buff persists after death but like why regardless

[boreal temple]

Do we have new light vg supports for opsi or is still stephen potter aurora

[boreal temple]

Sacrificial maid

[wind hazel]

nowadays it's just aurora

[hollow gust]

Well there are many Cv buffers

[wind hazel]

not even sure if there are that many people who still use anti light setup too

like they die to BB with mk7 lol

[hollow gust]

Eldridge Scylla Laffey etc

[boreal temple]

Wait so bocchi fell off while I was gone?

[hollow gust]

no shes still better, its just the best antilight fleers havent been avalilable for a while

[wind hazel]

people still use her, but not most of the time

[rose flicker]

wrong placement

[spring bolt]

the base principle is to use 2 preload cv + 1 half preload cv to perform fast strikes
by far, uni+aquila has the best result, and the best 3rd cv is yumi
you can replace yumi with other half preloads cvs, or replace aquila with a preload bb, you will still be able to auto stronghold, just not as fast
if your vanguards are not very strong, using preload bb like alsace will even increase the rate of success
the only reason preload cv preferred over preload bb is the bb firing animation, not because preload cvs are stronger

likewise, using torp based preload vanguards are also helping with faster clear, like ibuki and unzen.

[hollow gust]

BB still have a shit time oneshotting light and they will always have a harder time then CVs

[wind hazel]

i havent failed to do so, so far

[boreal temple]

Tbh I still don't know how this will survive the heal reversal boss

[crimson glacier]

what are we one shotting

[wind hazel]

opsi bosses lul

[crimson glacier]

eh BB struggles with that now?

[wind hazel]

no. that's the point

[lone knoll]

okay thats precious information. I have basically no one you mentioned(have uni) but I can see who can time different skills (that I have)

[boreal temple]

Tbh I left and came back with still no luck oneshotting any of the harbiters using bbs definitely tech skill issue

[hollow gust]

A substantial amount of Arbiters have fp shields or debuffs against FP damage once lower then 30% HP

[lone knoll]

what is teh difference of magnetics vs non magnetic torpedoes?

[crimson glacier]

magnetic has weak homing and other just go straight

[vale spindle]

magnetic torpedoes have homing so they auto target enemies
rest of torpedoes dont

[lone knoll]

so for leveling in campaign what do you think its best?

[vale spindle]

top 2

[spring bolt]

reverse heal is never an issue as the amount of healing is small and not 100% turned into damage...

[crimson glacier]

also you did nothing wrong in upgrading that to +13, but just not that upgrading past +10 is super expensive

and you should never upgrade past 10 unless you really know its worth it

[lone knoll]

I know those are worth it tho, only 1 torp is better I think(rainbow one?)

[soft dagger]

not the rainbow one

[wind hazel]

there's an improved one

[lone knoll]

Yeah I fucked up already on leveling steam cat to +13

[crimson glacier]

i mean thats not the worst thing in the world

[lone knoll]

middle one?

[crimson glacier]

and id rather upgrade 3 gold quads to 13 than 1 quint rainbow

[boreal temple]

Steam catapults are worth tho

[crimson glacier]

not worth

[lone knoll]

are they that much expensive? I only have 1 gold tho

[crimson glacier]

rainbow costs 3x more plates

[lone knoll]

i only saw that they were worth and I +13 for yuudachi since she deals most of my fleet's damage

[lone knoll]

im so cooked

[full zephyr]

Um excuse me, where can I report an exploiter? I saw a player did 1022500 score against Nagato Meta without using any ship girls. I mean literally, none...

[crimson glacier]

i kinda doubt thats an exploit and probably just bugged

[unique lantern]

it takes so long 😭 the manual input needed between each of the like 15 zones is also losing me time

[crimson glacier]

theres just no reason not to do max dmg since its so easy even without cheats

[sweet delta]

Yumi is the knockoff August, you mean chise or Luna?

[full zephyr]

It's not max damage, just 2/3 of the whole Nagato Meta's hp

[lone knoll]

i need at least 4 tries 😿

[unique lantern]

thats the point, why cheat if you dont do it properly, that was probably just a visual bug

[full zephyr]

And the moment I sent help in global chat, he did a million damage in an instant...

[lone knoll]

I mean why do you even care its mostly a pve game no?

[crimson glacier]

i mean its easy if you have the ships

but there isnt really much benefit from 1 shotting anyway, its just ego thing

[full zephyr]

Helping game devs cuz why not?

[boreal wagon]

did you happen to send a request before that one as well? cuz this #tech-support message should be the explanation

[wind hazel]

is it the leftover from your previous support?

[zenith heron]

Kitakaze or Yuudachi kai?

[eager mulch]

neither

[lone knoll]

if said exploiter buys gems you're hurting them not helping

my bad

[wind hazel]

yes your logic is bad

[soft raft]

Oh no! A singular guy out of 5mil+ got banned! How will our income ever recover from this?

[lone knoll]

a lot o gachas dont ban cheaters cuz they know they're a big part of the community I guess in azur lane not so much since it has pvp

[wind hazel]

send this guy the wall of shame

[boreal temple]

We regularly have a ban wave after events

[full zephyr]

Then explain wall of shame lol

[soft raft]

I mean AL does ban cheaters because cheating is still cheating no matter the reason or place

[lone knoll]

yeah its a pvp game so I cant really compare

[spring bolt]

damn, sorry my bad... you're right it's Luna, mixed their english names

[soft raft]

PvP my ass
99% of the content in this game is PVE and the little PvP we have is basic

[lone knoll]

the fact that it even has pvp makes cheating 10x worse

[boreal wagon]

the vast majority of people who get banned do not cheat in pvp

[lone knoll]

cheating in a pve game hurts no one just saying, imagine if a game like fate/dokkan banned cheaters they would lose like 1/3 of the playerbase

[wind hazel]

can you stop saying stupid stuff

[full zephyr]

That's fate, this is azur lane

[lone knoll]

yeah im comparing apples to oranges my bad wont say anything else

[eager mulch]

i love my shipfus i would never cheat on them

[unique lantern]

i was hoping i could finish the ur logger thingies with my regular bad opsi fleet :c

im guessing im removing the sandy from my "i do everything in opsi with this" fleet or something

[rose flicker]

ran out of the stuff you need to buy them :(

need to wait for next month to buy the rest

[lone knoll]

this is after all fleets attacked?

[unique lantern]

no just that one

[soft raft]

pretty sure you can just leave, heal, and come back

[lone knoll]

or just use your 2nd fleet??

[unique lantern]

yes i did, but i wanna blow them up in one go, so i remove sandy or no?

[tame jungle]

don't worry about that for now

[soft raft]

just use your other fleets

[unique lantern]

i dont even think that was the last quest in that thing

[lone knoll]

did u get the ur design?

[unique lantern]

i can tell you once i clear the trash fleets up which spawned after the boss

[lone knoll]

I think its the last one, you will get the UR part

[unique lantern]

i just (seemingly random) distributed my ships across the opsi fleets, is it a bad idea to not have one best fleet before i get enough carry ships?

[crimson glacier]

id rather have 1 strong fleet than 4 meh ones

[unique lantern]

okay, plymouth and fdg go to the first fleet then

i might actually be able to get my first mk7 today with these

[crimson glacier]

just note that mk7 is not that special

[unique lantern]

what would you recommend to focus first out of the URs?

[eager mulch]

[stark quiver]

+13

[soft raft]

2-3 Wyverns, UR AA, and UR DD gun are the more worthwhile ones

afterwards at most 2 Twin 457s and then like up to 3 406 Mk7s but both of those are very low prio

[unique lantern]

alsace, fdg, vanguard
ägir, mogador, plymouth is what i go with usually

with unicorn, shinano as swap ins when im doing story (havent done story in 2 months oops)

[low nymph]

guys im ngl with yall, ive just been doing god knows what in Azur while I’ve been playing, but I kinda wanna get into team building a bit more, could you guys give me the best fleet I could make then 2 other meh ones? I’ve just been kinda lost as there’s actually a lot of synergies between ships that I just dont really know much of 🙏

[soft raft]

All of those non MLB URs....

why did you spread your bullins out like that

[unique lantern]

maybe got dupes

[eager mulch]

he can mlb musashi at least

[low nymph]

imma do that rn then

[stark quiver]

Maybe dupes?

[eager mulch]

blaster maybe he got duped

[lone knoll]

are these even worth?

[low nymph]

wait should i mlb musashi rn

or try and mlb someone else first idk

[undone plover]

how much spec core u got?

[stark quiver]

Not rly, but since they are basically free why not

[rose flicker]

always skipping these cuz im lazy

[lone knoll]

I guess i can do them at the end

[low nymph]

12.5k

[eager mulch]

buy 2 bulins, mlb Alsace, and pray you get musashi dupes on the rerun

[low nymph]

oksy bet 😭 🙏

[eager mulch]

and stop using non mlb ships

or else

[low nymph]

[eager mulch]

[lone knoll]

musashi is god tier or what, im hoping she reruns soon

[stark quiver]

She’s good for campaign

[lone knoll]

good as in, amazing?

[eager mulch]

shes pretty good

[soft raft]

very pog
but a bit less flexible in terms of weapon choices compared to other UR BBs. esp for Anti-light

[lone knoll]

she has a cross fleet barrage, does it have any impact?

[eager mulch]

it’s pretty good

[lone knoll]

she redirects damage and has damage reduction wow

[undone plover]

what is the minimum active guild members needed for 2 5k op per month

[eager mulch]

backline main goal is not to tank

[lone knoll]

so her damage comes from her barrage or her shots?

[eager mulch]

both

[lone knoll]

what gun does she use? i dont think I have ijn bb guns

[stark quiver]

She’s got a really good barrage, and skill

[lone knoll]

is this viable?

[eager mulch]

gold triple 410 or purple twin 410

[stark quiver]

Well not the ur one

[soft raft]

Twin 410 for mobbing/anti-light (but it cant sync with Helena)
Triple 410 for anti-med/heavy bossing
Triple 460 too slow

[eager mulch]

bro forgot heavy 💀

[stark quiver]

💀

[lone knoll]

would you consider musashi to be a mob clearing ship or a boss killer?

or both

[stark quiver]

More mob oriented, works fine both ways if you don’t have better

[eager mulch]

bofa

[lone knoll]

then she will be a great adition, finally amagi wont be alone as my only ur

[low nymph]

erm guys, so i've mlb'd alsace, what fleet do i put her in

[lone knoll]

is it expected to have her rerun before 2025?

[eager mulch]

a boss fleet probably

blaster should i mlb vanguard?

[stark quiver]

personally I didn’t use Sashi for high campaign

[low nymph]

best sort of boss fleet you think i could make with my goofy goober ships?

[soft raft]

we dont know
we know Roma rerun will happen next week

Which just leaves Blucher event to go before we get to Musashi, but we have no idea when those will happen until devs tell us

[stark quiver]

Lb3

[lone knoll]

is there anything of note in said reruns? like a good piece of gear?

[eager mulch]

Did they announce Roma rerun next week or is it just a strong hunch

[civic hollow]

Since the Community tier list is down can someone give me a good Amagi CV?

[rose flicker]

well you already did...

[soft raft]

It was mentioned in JP Patchnotes

[civic hollow]

Bro has it on a hotkey

[eager mulch]

tierlist isn’t down tho

[civic hollow]

Ty you are awesome

[stark quiver]

Turtle it’s time to use that oil

[eager mulch]

amagi cv T0

[soft raft]

Blucher event has a better Eugen gun but like lol
lmao

it's pretty whatever

[eager mulch]

too lazy to grind

[lone knoll]

finally my eugen will go from F tier to E-

[stark quiver]

Honestly don’t know what to do in game anymore

[civic hollow]

It's not updated though

[stark quiver]

Give it some time

[lone knoll]

why is eugen on tier 5 and portland tier 3? cuz of resource investment?

[eager mulch]

you should ask ectl in their discord server

[civic hollow]

I kind of am too I horde so many resources I don't really know what to use em for

[eager mulch]

W16 waiting room

[stark quiver]

Press 3x and turn off brain

[plain saffron]

sounds like time to farm fleet tech

[eager mulch]

idk man, +2 CV hit doesn’t excite me anymore

[stark quiver]

0 tech gaming

[civic hollow]

How can I substitute spearfish I haven't grinded OPSI

Since Am lazy

[stark quiver]

Breguet or wyvern

[rose flicker]

does tenrai work good to replace the 1st one?

[civic hollow]

If memory servers the 1st one is core shop

So it's easy to acquire

[rose flicker]

oh

imma check it out after this run

[wind hazel]

no that's from yorktown2's event

[spring bolt]

wut? no
it's ad-1 skyraider, event limited

[rose flicker]

[wind hazel]

if you're just grinding you can use fighter or helldiver/tenrai, whatever works

[spring bolt]

in general tenrai is used for mob or heavy bosses, ad-1 for light and medium bosses
but equip selection is more related to the content you are playing, not ships themselves

[forest palm]

[atomic abyss]

wyvern if you can afford ofc

le breguets are essentially a wyvern at home

[stoic tulip]

i've just done 1 clear of world 15-1!

is world 15-2 through 15-4 exponentially harder?

[atomic abyss]

15-1 and 15-2 are the tutorial

[forest palm]

not necessarily....the bulk of the difficulty is the latter half

[atomic abyss]

15-3 and 15-4 are the exponentially difficult part

[stoic tulip]

i suspected as much

my vanguard and support fleet probably has a lot of room to grow though, and i should be completing Brest sometime before the end of the month

are PR6 fate simulation all out and released already?

[eager mulch]

yes

[atomic abyss]

PR6 yes, DR6 no ofc

Shimanto got the biggest upgrade - removal of gun restriction and moar buffs

felix got a bit tankier

as for flandre? might as well rename her to flanders
her fate is as miserable as the characters in dog of flanders

[novel condor]

[atomic abyss]

it isnt bad, it's just mostly inconsequential

[reef flume]

I've seen people saying fs5 Shimanto>Sandy retro. Is that true?

[atomic abyss]

on what basis?

[reef flume]

Dunno man

[atomic abyss]

well shimanto will deal with BB elites better
and command ships

sandy still has overall best AA

[reef flume]

I see

[atomic abyss]

like, by a significant longshot

[reef flume]

Alr

[stoic tulip]

on world 15, are you supposed to be able to clear all the planes in the sky or some get through still? because i can still last till the end of the stage without an emergency repair

[atomic abyss]

most of them not all

i do hope your support fleet is geared right

[dusk niche]

I've been following the beginners guide for this game in terms of team building (Portland, Helena, etc) and I was wondering at what point are they not useful

[atomic abyss]

helena is forever useful
portland is dropped once you get better tanks like anchorage and agir

[sinful escarp]

Do the skill levels of the carriers in support fleet help?

[dusk niche]

Ahh thank you I dont have any tanks like that lmao

[atomic abyss]

agir and anchorage are from research

which is something you should look into once you hit w12

[dusk niche]

yea ive been trying to get agir but so many iron tech points ;-;

[atomic abyss]

get friederich de grosse first

[sinful escarp]

Ahh, i see, thanks

[atomic abyss]

to be exact

[dusk niche]

Ah okay

[atomic abyss]

the only things that matter on support fleet
are the fighters and the carrier's stats

[urban solar]

If I load my bossing fleet with CVs does that slow down my mobbing fleet getting deep fried by planes?

[atomic abyss]

no

it's completely irrelevant

[eager mulch]

how does putting cvs in your boss fleet affect the mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

UNLESS

[urban solar]

air space thingy doesnt cross fleet?

[atomic abyss]

acv is affected by the entire fleet's avi and aa so you're technically not wrong in that sense

but the thing is

in w13-15, if your ACV was that low to begin with
all the carriers on the boss fleet wouldnt do shit if the mob fleet doesnt have the AA to begin with

to be clear

high ACV means you take less from planes and deal more damage with your own

it doesnt directly contribute with more planes

[urban solar]

just running 12-1 with really bad fleets and like 1 in 8 runs ends in plane problems so hoping that little bit might help

[atomic abyss]

oh if it's just w12 yeah it would help enough

[urban solar]

no conveyor belt continous plane flows yet

[summer echo]

is there any way to turn this off? i dont wanna write a code every time i do that

[mystic topaz]

might be this:

[atomic abyss]

yep it is

[atomic abyss]

@summer echo

[fervent hearth]

Who is people report for treason

[tame jungle]

what

[soft osprey]

to langley

[fervent hearth]

" ive seen people "

[atomic abyss]

And I see off-topic

[fervent hearth]

not really im asking to see what people told him that to asses his question

[tame jungle]

does it matter

[daring light]

am i losing fleet tech if i retire ship?

[atomic abyss]

no
tech is more a milestone reward

[daring light]

kk tyyy

[white agate]

any ways to avoid unicorn to steal the mvp when leveling backline ships with no preloaded strike?
beside giving her blue unleveled planes?

[atomic abyss]

not really

her preload is what makes her dps high

regular uni without retro?

[white agate]

so switching to another healer maybe?

[atomic abyss]

give her planes with NO bombs

[white agate]

no, i retro her

[atomic abyss]

so stuff like the me155 or skyrocket

[white agate]

ok, thanks

[fervent hearth]

yea i need the info on why they said so to then address it

[tame jungle]

no

[summer echo]

thank uuu

[subtle cave]

what are the best maps to farm?

[atomic abyss]

12-1 for exp, 12-4 for coins

[subtle cave]

anything lower? some of my ships are not mlb yet

[atomic abyss]

have you reached w9?

[subtle cave]

yeah im at 12

w12 but out of bulins rn

[atomic abyss]

12-1 can be grinded with non mlb ships

[subtle cave]

ah alright thanks!

[atomic abyss]

assuming you at least have 1 stronger ship to carry them dps wise

[subtle cave]

yeah i got some

[fervent hearth]

11 - 1 for pure xp

[atomic abyss]

And that is a map you will struggle to use non MLB ships in

[forest palm]

12-1 will be more beneficial though due to cog chips being in the drop table for world 12, and onward

[fervent hearth]

best oil to xp ratio

[atomic abyss]

It doesn't matter

It's a harder map to begin with
You can't bring as low level ships

[fervent hearth]

cap

[atomic abyss]

And as Taz said, cog chip shortage is real later

[thorn tartan]

why am i able to click on furniture in the dorm? Am I supposed to do something with it?

[fervent hearth]

who exactly struggles with 11.- 1?

[atomic abyss]

It's not about struggling

It's about how low level can your ships be to grind them up

With w12, you can get away with a lot more funni comps

W11 you are forced to run a BB no matter what

[thorn tartan]

i usually do 12-4 with level 80ish ships

[fervent hearth]

i mentioned 11 - 1 is better only when looking at a best oil to xp ratio never mentioned cog chips

[atomic abyss]

Good luck dealing with suicide boats or BB fires

Unless your frontline is strong, they'll eat your backline

Which defeats the entire purpose of level grinding

[fervent hearth]

[atomic abyss]

W12 you can go triple BB or triple CV or even triple AR

And they all work

[fervent hearth]

its 100% doable

[atomic abyss]

It's doable, but it's missing the point

Because then you need higher levelled ships instead

You're putting the cart before the horse

With w12, you can even use level 1 backliners

How is that relevant

[fervent hearth]

[atomic abyss]

The point is you can use even shittier comps

In 12-1
Than 11-1

It does when your entire goal is grinding for exp

It's putting the cart before the horse if you have to level them to even use them

[fervent hearth]

which an average player doesnt run that they use what they have best available

[vale spindle]

11-1 is easier than 12-1 it just doesnt have coggers drops

[atomic abyss]

It's not

[vale spindle]

skill issue i guess

[fervent hearth]

Exactly no cog ships is only dif

[atomic abyss]

I can guarantee you it's not

Try running a random triple CV in 11-1

[fervent hearth]

[vale spindle]

i spread out my ship leveling such that i never have to do that

even in chapter 12

[atomic abyss]

The fact that you even do that is the actual skill issue if anything

[fervent hearth]

if ur getting clapped on 11 - 1 its pure skill issue i used a dog water fleet and still worked

[atomic abyss]

12-1 is easier than 11-1 100%

[vale spindle]

im always in the camp of dorm to lvl 70 mlb and sometimes even further before taking them out for campaign grinding

[atomic abyss]

If you think otherwise you clearly haven't grinded 12-1 enough

[spring bolt]

do 12-2 instead
you don't want to run these backlines in ch 11, but they swim in ch 12 happily

[atomic abyss]

Yeah I'm positive that gets mauled in w11

0lb CN memes aside

[spring bolt]

mvp control

[fervent hearth]

the average player would use what they have best tho not that stuff

[atomic abyss]

Uh

Why would you use your best fleets to grind for exp tho

Make it make sense

[fervent hearth]

[atomic abyss]

^

Puddo certainly did

[spring bolt]

another reason is that all my backlines are lv120

[atomic abyss]

and im saying 12-1 is a better place regardless

[fervent hearth]

ehhh

its debatable

[rose flicker]

meanwhile i brainlessly grind 12-4

[white agate]

but no cog chip, so that means you need to buy them elsewhere

[viscid swift]

XP is useless without chips to uncap chips

[atomic abyss]

you havent come up with a good counter argument tho

cheeky post that 12-1 comp you were levelling

[viscid swift]

not to mention BBs in 11-1 randomly sniping your main fleet and suicide boats is not fun when leveling garbage

[fervent hearth]

what was this entire convo then?

what is bro waffling about

[atomic abyss]

you giving weak counter arguments

[spring bolt]

11-1 also has path issue where mob spawns may cut your way to boss, if you are auto searching, that means your boss fleet will fight those extra spawns
12-1 has this issue too but not as bad, that's why i endorse 12-2

[viscid swift]

oh and 12-1 is better for coins as well

[atomic abyss]

12-1 is easier on account you dont have to worry about BB fires, suicide boats etc

like i said, try running triple CVs in 11-1 and see how often your run fails
even if there was a single underlevelled BB, it may still have issues

[fervent hearth]

??????

[viscid swift]

no but every bit helps

[atomic abyss]

the original question was "where is the best place to grind" anyways

[viscid swift]

besides, it's not the only reason to do 12-1 over 11-1

[atomic abyss]

hence 12-1 or 12-4

[fervent hearth]

for xp which is 11 - 1 regarding best oil to xp ratio

[spring bolt]

like i said, the path issue hurts 11-1 exp/oil ratio and you will never get the best number on paper

[atomic abyss]

because it's not good advice to someone who said he had non lb-ed ships
when 11-1 is harder than 12-1

[white agate]

to be honest tho, to get really max exp efficiecy you can only do 3 sortie every hour or so on for the 20% exp buff

[viscid swift]

let me put it like this, accounting for everything else is that still a good reason to do 11-1 and with cog shortages, it's not the most relevant strength either

[atomic abyss]

no one is going after anyone for breaking some "holy rule"
it's about giving the appropriate advice for the situation

instead of regurgitating facts blindly like a glorified tape recorder

[fervent hearth]

we proved our point there's no need to continue this convo unless u wanna keep coping

[atomic abyss]

the only one coping here is you and mamagi tho
you havent proven shit

[viscid swift]

Coping about what exactly

[spring bolt]

i was sadly ignored lol

[rose flicker]

Will these even restock?

[atomic abyss]

rainbow gear BP never restock

[spring bolt]

never

[rose flicker]

[fervent hearth]

You can keep coping while avoiding the facts

[strong tartan]

Hi

[spring bolt]

you can also keep ignoring me lol

[atomic abyss]

the mirror is right here 🪞

[atomic abyss]

haya

what are you smoking

rainbow gear BPs dont EVER refresh

[strong tartan]

Oh my god I'm so stupid

[atomic abyss]

this timer does apply to everything else

[fervent hearth]

Hey man just accept it

[atomic abyss]

i gave the right advice for the situation

there's nothing to accept

[stark quiver]

Which was the stage with fire spam?

[atomic abyss]

11 and 14

[stark quiver]

Ah thanks

[atomic abyss]

10 to a less extent of 11

[stark quiver]

I keep mixing 10 and 11

[atomic abyss]

10 is discount 11 really

and 11 is discount 14

[rose flicker]

is chap 14/15 worth farming for?

[spring bolt]

10 has weird formation

[stark quiver]

Do you want the ship drop?

[atomic abyss]

i mean, there are exclusive ship drops like New Orleans and Houston 2
but that's about it

you wouldnt "farm" w14/15 otherwise

[fervent hearth]

I really don’t need you to accept it honestly just know that ur wrong it’s ok to be wrong sometimes but ye gg

[atomic abyss]

The one that cant admit he's wrong is trying to convince someone else is wrong

How ironic
just bugger off

[rose flicker]

houston 2... dont think i'll need her soon

[atomic abyss]

i hope you've realised barely anyone even takes you seriously here puddo

[strong tartan]

Nola and HousII are both decent but nothing to make them stand out in their own classes

[rose flicker]

maybe i'll clear chp15 when i really need that extra gems then

so... lazy...

[spring bolt]

it's funny to see someone completely ignores arguments that is bad for his point and claim victory directly

[atomic abyss]

why do you think i've received complaints about him?

[inner delta]

just start warning then

[stark quiver]

Both of them have good tech, so one day you might wanna get them

[rose flicker]

already got nola leaving houston2 then

[stark quiver]

Cruiser tech +1 btw for both

[rose flicker]

waiting until one day i can auto 15-4

[fervent hearth]

Imagine still stating false info to players

[hollow gust]

[south zephyr]

Guys quick question, how the heck do I recover my azur lane account? (I think I used to log in with my Gmail but now I don't see that option)

[hollow gust]

Email customer support

[south zephyr]

What is the email? and is there some form or something like in FGO?

[hollow gust]

It's pinned on #tech-support

[jaunty vault]

yostar login is your email login

[south zephyr]

Then I'm fucked because no one of my emails show my character, I was in avrora, and my last login was about 279 days ago

[atomic abyss]

the character wont show on login if you reinstalled

[jaunty vault]

customer support email can be accessed through the bot command /techsupport

[atomic abyss]

make sure you select the correct server after logging in with your yostar account

[south zephyr]

Yeah I did

[jaunty vault]

and? you did not get your account?

[south zephyr]

Nope, I emailed the support

[jaunty vault]

strange, you're most likely doing something wrong

cause if you logged in through yostar

and it sends you an email with an OTP

[south zephyr]

Yup, I've checked and I used the same email before so...

[jaunty vault]

that means it acknowledges you had previously binded

meh this is beyond me

[south zephyr]

Yeah I just entered the game and it make me create a new character and go through the tutorial, I will wait and see what I can do with the support team

[jaunty vault]

what server are you in

[south zephyr]

Avrora

[jaunty vault]

well good luck with cs, it will take some time for them to respond though

[south zephyr]

Thank you

[hollow gust]

AL CS has been pretty good

I got my problem fixed in under a hr

[jaunty vault]

pretty sure it's nighttime/early morning there rn

i meant more so for timezone difference

[atomic abyss]

it's 4.30am there and they just came back from golden week

give them some time ye

hopefully you'll get it back tho

[jaunty vault]

whats golden week and why are you up this late

[atomic abyss]

week long holiday

[versed swift]

ok i got shinano do i have a team or not?

[atomic abyss]

did you not get amagi

[jaunty vault]

i did not 😞

[versed swift]

no sadly not

[jaunty vault]

thats an old account, barely played

what do you specifically want in this team of yours

[versed swift]

shinano is hot

[jaunty vault]

just slot her in one of your fleets then

max lb and level her up

skills too

[stoic ermine]

regarding this
isn't it better to do more recent research waves first? later waves' general blueprints can be used for earlier waves but not the other way around, so doing later waves first keeps their bps useful for longer

[eager mulch]

not necessarily

pr4 and 5 have good ships and gear

plus tech points may not be met

[cobalt rapids]

only like 2% of the time for 12-1

[crimson glacier]

whats up gamers

[hollow gust]

The sky

[sweet delta]

sauce

[cobalt rapids]

u sauce

[wet prairie]

Dead week?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[sweet delta]

the usual rerun+new augment week

[cobalt rapids]

oh yea its roma rerun't

[undone plover]

Was rerun this week or next week?

[jaunty glade]

i think i read next week

[boreal wagon]

its next week

[sweet delta]

this week's rerun is 👗

[soft osprey]

i still cling to the hope to get blücher by christmass

[forest palm]

we're getting Kiev outfit rerun, and Washington + Bulldog UE, following week is Ballad rerun

oh, right 3x Core Data rejoice

[white agate]

Is w13 hard annoying or pretty easy?

[undone plover]

depends what u have
it is not the easiest thing but not too bad with proper setup

[white agate]

But easier than w15 right?

[undone plover]

only thing is it has higher ACV requirements

try running 3 CV in mob so u maintain AS+

and of course u have hull restrictions as well but overall it is easier

[white agate]

Nice, so no need for ur aa, right?

[undone plover]

well technically u dont need that in ch15 either
it helps to have it but roomba/sextuple/twin90 combo should work

not exactly 1 of each
I dont know much about AA so helpfully someone can tell u which combo is best

u can post your comp here for feedback if u like

[white agate]

Ok, i'll see if I can beat it next month, in case i'll post here if I need help

[undone plover]

u can use this tool to post your comp. Save it for later
https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[elfin hollow]

hi I just started the game and am on the summon screen ofc xD which banners are the event ones do I unlock them after a specific story tage?

[eager mulch]

there is no event right now

[mint flint]

there is no event banner currently ongoing

[elfin hollow]

ah rip

so I just save wisdom cubes for now?

[soft raft]

1 light build per day yes

[undone plover]

read this guide if u want
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[elfin hollow]

thanks

[undone plover]

did laffey II have special ASW?

[viscid swift]

no

[undone plover]

so only hamman II and eldridge have special ASW?

[forest palm]

using Ham 2 is hard cope

[viscid swift]

Wakatsuki also has one

[eager mulch]

https://www.bluestacks.com/blog/game-guides/azur-lane/al-best-ships-tier-list-en.html do we trust this tier list

[stark quiver]

its missing quite a bit of ships

[fluid brook]

you mean alot?

[stark quiver]

goofy ahh tier list

[viscid swift]

I see they fell into the "Vanguard is inherently underpowered" group

[fervent hearth]

Is this new? never seen this tier list before kek

[fervent hearth]

[barren tapir]

what in the world did my eyes just suffer through

[soft raft]

where the fuck did C tier and below go

[lucid eagle]

what is a rerun and will it be worth investing into being new?

[eager mulch]

rerun is an event thats coming back for a week, this one probably not for new players

[lucid eagle]

so just ignore the banner?

[eager mulch]

if i was a new player

[lucid eagle]

cause you'd want at least 400 Wisdom Cubes am I mistaken?

[stark quiver]

if i was new, id want to mostly just pull on UR banners
hence the 400 cube rule (or something)
if i have more cubes, i would pull 3 times a day on events to get event pts

[viscid swift]

not quite, during reruns you will be able to get build tickets so you'll want to soend those

but no I would not spend cubes on the upcoming rerun

[lucid eagle]

so If there was an event only pull 3 times a day then go all in if you don't clear the banner like a couple days before the event ends?

[viscid swift]

we have a To-Love Ru collab dropping in November probably and a UR event in December

[barren tapir]

if you have the cubes which you won't if you're new

[eager mulch]

is NYC 3001 a 🚂 ?

[viscid swift]

She's an L3a 4-8-2 Mohawk and one of only 2 surviving large New York Central Steam Locomotives

[lucid eagle]

is there an estimate cube net income monthly so as long as you do your daily, weekend missions and monthly log in calender?

[eager mulch]

168 guaranteed, more than that from commissions/events

[lucid eagle]

168 guaranteed per month damn

how often are UR banners spread out?

[viscid swift]

new one every Late February, Late May, Mid September, and Late December

plus reruns in between which could happen at anytime

[lucid eagle]

I see, thanks for the info

[polar lion]

Heard we gunna get Wash and Bull Aug. Do we hab patch notes yet?

[viscid swift]

yes

[weak dust]

when is next event build banner

[viscid swift]

next Thursday

[weak dust]

ok i still hve time

ty

[lucid eagle]

Should I be using submarines rn? what world do they start to matter in?

[stark quiver]

w14/15

[viscid swift]

you shouldn't because you don't have the resources to spare for them nor do you probably have any good ones

[lucid eagle]

I see

[soft raft]

Yes
Datamine no, check back tomorrow when CN Maint finishes

[coarse heron]

Where patch notes

[eager mulch]

can you read JP?

[coarse heron]

Google Translate can

[eternal moth]

I just wish they'd published the EN patch notes today instead of tomorrow, like they have been the last few maints

[eternal moth]

Kiev skin event this week, Roma rerun event next week

[polar lion]

Alight

[polar venture]

Is there any ship from war archives I should try and get?

[fluid brook]

Iron Blood Ships if you lack any fleet tech to develop Friedrich Der Grobe (Map is called Chessboard)

[polar venture]

I'm developing her rn

[lucid eagle]

How many free gems do we get roughly?

[barren tapir]

about 4500ish? iirc

[fluid brook]

4700

[lucid eagle]

and thats it yeah?

[polar venture]

Any others I should focus?

[fluid brook]

That the guaranteed if you do Memories, Campaing and the New Player log in. This number doesnt count Anniv, Mail Gems or Comms Gem

[barren tapir]

we get guaranteed gems on anniversary and also lny i think, otherwise it's very rare gem commissions randomly and occasional handouts for certain milestones or playstore mandatory updates

but in terms of permanently available gems yes that's all

[fluid brook]

Jump to PR4, and develop all (leave Marco Polo as last)

[fluid brook]

EN gets gems only in EN Anniv, idk if JP or CN gets from LNY

[lucid eagle]

I see, and I was recommended to spend that only on dock and depot expansions correct?

[polar venture]

I need Sakura empire and eagle union :/

[barren tapir]

yea only specific server anniversary

[viscid swift]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[barren tapir]

not depot

get 3rd dorm slot + 2nd floor then dock

[fluid brook]

Dorm 3rd slot and 2nd Floor, and rest for dock expansion, Depot expansion is a horrible investment with free 2 play Gems, if you use pay ones then you can buy skins

[fluid brook]

Oh they updated it

[viscid swift]

thank Ender

[lucid eagle]

I see thank you

[barren tapir]

finally updated thank god lol
id add a subtext personally that we do receive occasional free rings so ur not shit out of luck on oathing as f2p, just gotta be very patient and not have more than a few waifus

[fluid brook]

well rings arent gems, so that doesnt go there

[barren tapir]

fair

mostly i considered it bc of the final bit, u dont need to spend gems for rings technically

[fluid brook]

Yeah might be good addition, let see if others agree

[barren tapir]

basically to act as a reassurance of sorts to f2p commanders xd

[polar venture]

Is there another eagle union in war archives that's not ashen simulacrum?

[barren tapir]

tho i can also see how it'd be a bit of a tangent and it's best to keep that more concise anyway

[viscid swift]

Microlayer Medley, Mirror Involution, Fallen Wings, etc

[lucid eagle]

is oathing just a personal preference?

on what ships to oath specifically?

[fluid brook]

Oathing gives a small stat increase too

[lucid eagle]

3% right?

[fluid brook]

idk tbh

[barren tapir]

unless you spend a lot it is highly advised to just oath your favorites. the stat bonus is minor

[viscid swift]

6%

[lucid eagle]

I see

[viscid swift]

3% from oath and 3% from 200 Affinity

[fluid brook]

I just oath my Musashi, theres no need for more

[barren tapir]

oathing for meta also ends up requiring you to oath multiple ships so they can stay synced and stuff so...icky

[lucid eagle]

sounds whale-y

[barren tapir]

if f2p disregard any notion of oathing for stats and just oath ur waifus, fr

[south zephyr]

Yostar is Chinese or Japanese? (I ask because I want to know what hour they have)

[fluid brook]

Yostar is Chinese, but they use UTC-7 for EN servers

[south zephyr]

Thank you

So 17:35 and they still don't respond to my email

[polar venture]

I oath the ones I like and use

[barren tapir]

oathing for the oath skin is also valid

[south zephyr]

This is what I do
(I hope some of my waifus get a oath skin soon...)

[barren tapir]

i do kinda wish the rookie missions exam and pr stuff didnt require an oath tho, i wont be able to complete them for ages

[lucid eagle]

Best Fleet Build for me?

[fluid brook]

By PR stuff what do you mean? I dont recall a pr mission needing oath

[barren tapir]

one sec

this

since the girl i want to be my first oath is currently a limited ship and won't be perma for about another year im gonna be unable to finish these until then XD

[fluid brook]

Ah ok

[soft raft]

just oath someone else in the meantime

[barren tapir]

nah im sentimental like that

[viscid swift]

not that I'm any position to say otherwise but suit yourself

[barren tapir]

yeah i mean its nbd just a slight annoyance but ill live

[viscid swift]

well given the amount of protocores in there I wouldn't say it's nbd

[barren tapir]

hmm, more like the deal is worth it to me i guess

[spring bolt]

in my experience, it's much greater than 2% as it only takes 1 mob spawn to block the way to boss for 12-1
in 12-4 it is 2 and 3 for 12-2

[viscid swift]

use a boss fleet for grinding XP as well so as not to waste XP

[spring bolt]

i ran out of backlines to level years ago, and i can't do vanguard mvp control in boss fleet

[viscid swift]

gimme about 23ish more ships

[eager mulch]

amagi-chan

[viscid swift]

Working on it

[forest palm]

so behind la

[spring bolt]

no tech, no chip

[viscid swift]

I'm not planning on uncapping them anytime soon, just banking XP on them because why not

[spring bolt]

yeah, totally makes sense, i did that too

[forest palm]

gotta get that +1 RLD from Houshou meta

[viscid swift]

still waiting on her to be MLB

[forest palm]

I don't see a need to wait

[viscid swift]

I probably don't need her at MLB but I'm in no rush either seeing as Nagato META doesn't want max reload tech anyway

I'll probably cycle her in after Nagisa is done

[zenith heron]

Either oath someone else or wait... if you are commited

[forest palm]

I'm just glad to be in a cycle where I can't out consume my cogs

[sweet delta]

/wiki user:suchiguma/auto

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Suchiguma/AutoSearch

[sharp socket]

you get a free ring on EN anniv so you can plan for that too

[viscid swift]

emphasis on first oath there

[sharp socket]

welp you do you then

[cursive lark]

Crazy that new players are forced to get married

[forest palm]

yes, but also, no

[zenith heron]

Its really a "you do you" moment, unless you are a whale for those minimal buffs

[cursive lark]

So how much protocore they miss if they got held back by the devs

[mint flint]

they're still going to get it eventually, its just that it might not be as valuable by then since they already have that gear through other sources

and also that not having that gear now will slow progression

[sweet delta]

Also consider that the 12-1 blocker can only spawn when you enter the sortie, and it chooses 2 from 6 valid tiles to spawn the first 2 enemies. And since it spawns so early, it's very likely for it to be picked before the boss spawns. The whole sortie spawns 7 mobs and you already kill 6

[lucid eagle]

are guilds worth investing time in?

[mint flint]

you dont need to spend much time on them, and yes

[plain saffron]

Yes

[mint flint]

you basically just do dailies then pop in to set teams for monthly operations a few times a day, or just do a 1 minute fight once a day

[lucid eagle]

ight ty

[sinful escarp]

its basically free dock space for a few clicks per day

[lucid eagle]

I see tyty

[spring bolt]

i love data, thanks
and guess i was just unlucky, got blocked once when i did just 4 test runs this afternoon

[rough vale]

You can't get Astoria as a Moonlit Overture drop anymore, can you? Want to confirm before I drop 1200 core data

[viscid swift]

correct

[calm cradle]

Who's the single best mobbing cv/bb?

[atomic abyss]

Musashi for BB, Unicorn for CV

Unicorn is the best healer in the game, Musashi the best mobbing BB in the game for end-game campaign

[calm cradle]

I somehow forgot about uni. Shame on me. Ty

[vernal osprey]

Develop Plymouth or Brest first?

[stark quiver]

doesnt really matter
but if u get ply and if get ply to d25 u can use her as a buffer for bbs

[vernal osprey]

Aight thx

[atomic abyss]

Ply imo
For reasons stated above

[vernal osprey]

[rough vale]

Where can I get aircraft design plans?

[atomic abyss]

As in for gear lab? Operation siren

[fast skiff]

What are these and where/how do I use them

[eager mulch]

wallpapers,

[fast skiff]

Gotcha, didn’t even notice that there

[eager mulch]

[south zephyr]

update I got my account back

[eager mulch]

[little tree]

[wind hazel]

anyone got implacable amagi and shinano antilight loadout? with hvar

[atomic abyss]

Nyope

[sweet delta]

Is this what you mean by lile

[wind hazel]

spearfishes

[stark quiver]

3 🔱 🐟

[slow fox]

you are too rich

How can you afford +11 beacon

[wind hazel]

thanks, yoink

[sweet delta]

I don't have 80 +13 rudders

[slow fox]

Neither do I

I think

[stark quiver]

200 +10 🧰

[wind hazel]

does this sync?

[sweet delta]

It syncs for one strike

[wind hazel]

😂

[blazing shale]

Is there one for heavy?

[sweet delta]

Heavy is too easy and there are many possibilities, so choose one based on your +13s

[stark quiver]

whats a sample heavy with only 2 tenrai?

[stark quiver]

time to get la9

[stone sluice]

Time to get Implacable… oh wait

For a haku, shinano and Amagi CV composition, if I only have two Tenrai, better to use them on shinano and amagi?

[sweet delta]

Depends on the boss and if you have la9

[stone sluice]

Nagato meta. And I do have LA-9

[sweet delta]

Note that Shinano has the weakest DB slot

Then tenrai haku and Shinano, and la9 amagi

[stone sluice]

[low nymph]

Boss and mob fleet right now respectively, are there any better ships I could swap and build?

I still am pretty clueless about this stuff so any help is appreciated!!

[stark quiver]

what chapter are u on rn?

[wind hazel]

update your dock screenshot

can't tell who is good to use if they are not updated

[fervent hearth]

[storm heron]

la9 best fighter for light/med/heavy?

or is the hvar/bfg/fw still the king of all three?

[atomic abyss]

Med and heavy yes, la9 is better
Light, hvar still better

[low nymph]

Chapter 9, I'm planning on going as far as a can and I want to make sure I dont invest in dumb units too so-

[low nymph]

Here you goooo ty for any help you can give

[storm heron]

kid named thread

[wind hazel]

seems like you missed out the elites too

but yeah include the elites too. in a thread

[low nymph]

okokk

[wind hazel]

and cheeky will help

[low nymph]

Any help appreciated 🤗

[eternal moth]

What's the highest-damage anti-heavy CV fleet, Shinano/Haku/Amagi?

Or is it still better to use Imp over one of the 3?

[inner delta]

with slow better ofc if the boss doesn't just stop, nagato has long and often stop which no need slow

[atomic abyss]

See what yuki said above my message ^

Usually, expect to use impla nano amagi

[eternal moth]

Alright, that's pretty much what I expected. Thanks

[pliant sage]

I need some help to update my fleets, getting Ägir today, but i dont know who to swap out

[muted ember]

what should I be expecting difficulty wise for w12?

[wind hazel]

a little bit of AA needed towards end of chapter, that's about it

w12 is fairly easy compared to w11

[storm heron]

😀 difficulty

[storm heron]

swap out roon micro

wait how can you have a submarine mob fleet and a boss fleet

do you not raise anyone but iron bloods?

[stark quiver]

based

[pliant sage]

No no i also raise royal navy and recently sakura empire, dont know what ships to lvl on SE though

[frank pulsar]

agir isnt better than any of them at tanking unless youre able to get her to at least dev15

but when you do get her there replace roon muse like what dog said

since youve already limit broken eugen you can use her as your boss tank for now

[pliant sage]

Are 190 bps enough to do so?

[frank pulsar]

uh it should be
only one way to found out: use them

also if you want to fully revamp your fleets should prob make thread and post dock there
i cant help since im class rn

[pliant sage]

Revamping Fleets

[deep solstice]

Ok so this is the only mission I need to complete before I get enterprise but I don’t wanna level random ships and wanna level some useful ships instead or even work on second fleet if I have enough good ships.

[muted ember]

how good is this

[deep solstice]

Is it a good idea for me to create a thread for this?

[wind hazel]

ye go ahead

[wind hazel]

idk but i've never seen anyone recommend using it here

[deep solstice]

Leveling second fleet

[atomic abyss]

Not great
I wouldn't use it unless I have literally nothing else

[flat sun]

wats the best way to grind xp rn]

[muted ember]

best place is usually 12-4

[sweet delta]

Having blueprints of this AA gun is a big red flag, it means you are or were researching the wrong season. Other than that it's an average gold AA gun

[coarse heron]

That gun is Series 1 research only please don’t tell me you’ve been doing PR1 research

[wind hazel]

wtf

[atomic abyss]

I mean I have a few lol

The perils of being old

[coarse heron]

I have 2 of them and 20/25 for a third but that’s because I actually did PR1 research in 2020

[native flame]

just starting w15-3, is sushi still the recommended bb for mob ? also do I need to change composition again for 15-4 later on or just keep using the same fleet as 15-3

[atomic abyss]

Yes, she is by far the best BB for w15

[native flame]

ic, how bout for boss fleet then n what ammo to use for the boss

[atomic abyss]

Best for boss would be Bis Zwei

Ideally 457 iirc

[hollow gust]

Alsace is what most sites recc if I'm not mistaken

[pallid vortex]

should i get fdg to dev 30 and start working on drake? or get fdg fate sim then start on drake?

[cobalt rapids]

fdg sim

[hollow gust]

Yeah it's Alsace , biszwei felt meh when I first cleared w15-4, kearsarge ended up a lot better for me

[pallid vortex]

ok thank you

[cobalt rapids]

/w15 has a bb tierlist u can follow

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[pliant sage]

Wait what is fate sim?

[bold cove]

Do i need to keep all the Rare ships?

[cobalt rapids]

extra stuff beyond d30
aka 1 skill upgrade for pr and 2 skill upgrade for dr and extra luck

[muted ember]

I mayyy have forgot to change my PR research when I first started doing em

[cobalt rapids]

if u want their tech later to grind to 120 but if easy to reobtain feel free to scrap

[muted ember]

don't worry I got em on Series 4 now

[bold cove]

I i tent to keep few ships in memento and retire most of rare ships, i will check them in fleet tech.

[native flame]

oh there r stuff like this, ty ty

[bold cove]

Cant keep buying dock slots atm

Does skill training slot worth to unlock?

[cobalt rapids]

not at all

do /gems in #bot-spam for how to spend ur gems

[coarse heron]

You may want to keep rare drop only ships as some of them are harder to get than you’d expect

[storm heron]

kearsarge good campaign?

replacing a CV with kearsarge

[cobalt rapids]

usable if u cover for her weaknesses

[pliant acorn]

Is the new tempesta event is next week or its another dead week?

[cobalt rapids]

next week is roma rerun

[rose cosmos]

What banner did they host during the Kiev event

[jaunty vault]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Abyssal_Refrain

[crisp wadi]

So I look the w15 guide. And do I really need Brest? Is there any alternative?. How about NJ is she must use too?

[jaunty vault]

idk why NJ is on that mob fleet

[shell willow]

availability probably

[jaunty vault]

Brest is just a really good mob tank

one of the best if not the best

[sweet delta]

Use laffii tank and then you can replace Brest with any decent ship

[willow dock]

If only you could obtain event ships from archived event currency exchange rather than blowing ♾️ amount of cubes for a chance to get them

[sweet delta]

NJ is just one of the best w15 BBs, there are 3 or 4 other UR BBs that are as good as her

[crisp wadi]

Can i put Sashi instead of NJ?

[sweet delta]

Musashi is the best, certainly better than these. Just make your boss fleet stronger in other ways

[soft dagger]

How is eldridge for mobbing 15 lethal?

[sweet delta]

One of the best

[crisp wadi]

What gear should i put to make lafii tank? i don't wanna back to pr5 just for maxing brest

[sweet delta]

Man who wrote this guide, NJ is missing eagle union for AA boost

[sweet delta]

What she has right now is good

[crisp wadi]

This one

[shell willow]

if you have shimanto with fatesim you can use a normal cl gun instead of that one in the image btw

[sweet delta]

She can even throw away all HP and use hedgehog + depth charge, but that's not needed

[civic crag]

Any reason to ever use messchermit?

[jaunty vault]

nope

[civic crag]

Scrap?

[jaunty vault]

oh wait

fleet power gaming

[civic crag]

Scrap it is

[jaunty vault]

[soft dagger]

bf109g is also a messerschmitt

[jaunty vault]

yes but no one calls it that

[civic crag]

Sorry I was talking about the ME version

[civic crag]

It doesn’t say in game so idt anyone other than history buffs will know lol

[jaunty vault]

this deserves a nerd emoji

[soft dagger]

[golden moth]

Question..is mamagi cv mob or boss

[soft dagger]

ideally for boss but she can mob as well

[hollow gust]

She is a UR, shes top tier for both

[willow dock]

Aqualia:

[boreal temple]

Very outdated question but is there a particular bb that does better than musashi for w13 hard mobbing

[sweet delta]

Why not use carriers

[boreal temple]

Did not think about that

[willow dock]

Id say Alsace is very good at mobbing because of preload

[jaunty vault]

but is she better than Musashi

[willow dock]

I never said she was the best now did I?

[crimson glacier]

then why answer to that question

[boreal temple]

[crimson glacier]

imo the world doesnt matter, musashi is just the best flagship for mob

[boreal temple]

Well that works ig figured she'll be fine if I just slam her there

[willow dock]

[mystic topaz]

i don't quite get this concept yet, what does it mean when AA reload is averaged?

[crimson glacier]

i means that the guns dont shoot when ship reloads its AA gun, it means that the whole fleet shoots their AA guns at the same time, using the fleets averaged reload time for the AA guns

[plain saffron]

Say your fleet have 2 fleet that have 1 aa gun each

One have cd of 2 seconds
Another with 3s

It fire every 2.5s

[mystic topaz]

both fire at 2.5s? or..

[plain saffron]

All are combined into 1 "AA gun"

the dmg is totalled

[mystic topaz]

oh okay, hence "accelerator" to pull the reload down lower

[crimson glacier]

accelerators are just cope

[mystic topaz]

because if you have enough AA damage, to do it in one shot, you don't need to reload

[crimson glacier]

eh

[mystic topaz]

not like that? then what do you mean by cope?

[crimson glacier]

you always need to reload since you cant just permanently 1 shot all planes out of the battle

i just think accelerators make so little difference, that its not worth using resources on shitty AA guns that are fast

[mystic topaz]

ah

[crimson glacier]

range is far more important

[mystic topaz]

roombas

[willow dock]

Can't you get twin 113 AA mount from tech boxes?

[mystic topaz]

the gold royal navy ones or higher, i suppose, but still quite low chance i think per box

[timid solar]

is there a way to set up auto in OS to do daily task (green) and files (blue) missions?

[boreal wagon]

there isnt

[timid solar]

ah ok, too bad

[half plover]

guys I am curious how AA range in main fleet works and how much influence anti air ships have like vestal

[coarse heron]

AA works a bit weird in AL. Basically all the ships AA gets combined into a single shot with an averaged reload. Vestal looks like a good AA boat on paper but in practice killing stuff faster with a real main fleet vessel works better.

[undone plover]

Also if u run a carrier in her place u are getting interception AA and airstrike AA as well as ACV

[boreal temple]

Don't even bother with AR ships nor BM ones

[mystic topaz]

is there a reason why that works out so?