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Was done day 1
the same ones I was using a few years ago...
enty, warspite, unicorn...
fronline is like saint louis sandy helena things like those
welcome back riceist
why are you one fleeting
and then gears...I forgot but apparently back then they say the round AA gun is the best

I'm looking to kill time
make a thread, post your dock and gear, and one of us will guide you
you mean cheeky
so since 2021...what are some new permanent "meta" ships that I should prioritize building (PR or gacha)
PR ships, Independence retro, etc
Speaking of pr ships, has there been a consensus of pr progression routing
oh
independence increases avi...
so I assume she'd be neat for chapter 13 yeah
Ik Sam wanted to change it to 5 > else but he's gone quiet
I mean she has pretty high AA...and seems like a lot of good buffs
She's your iconic mobbing CV
cross fleet buff, fast load, 4tb slots
I'm still on the page of
Fdg-> pr4s -> else. Pr4 focus from start
I wasn't responding to you
I mean that seems honestly fine for now
Even after pr4 goes in gear lab
Would I go that far....
It does make sense in some ways though because in total you're probably gonna spend as much if not more time coining and gear lab crafting as you would on Pr4 research focus to max everything
what about fdg > pr4 > plymouth > shimanto > else
Focusing pr4 also gets your opsi fleets started a lot earlier
Focusing down a DR isn't practical
Looking for help with chapter 13~15
Because when you max one DR the PRs are dev 30 probably and the other DR dev 25 ish
my ply and brest just crossed d25 and the PRs are at about 80 prints each
Kinda depends if you grab other faces or Qs
Honestly fdg > pr4 > pr5 > shimanto else sounds fair
I’d personally stay in pr5 for a bit to get at least a ply gun from research
chang chun worth retrofitting?
im just taking DR face and rigging
I guess, but having Brest and ply could help a lot
after getting plygun i can agree with that, dont have much cases where it would contribute significantly over other options
only ply would be able to use it effectively, else its a BB secondary or premium CL option on a ship that isnt damage oriented
All you really need is the free one from protocores but that's kinda debatable for order
but would ply/brest be worth to stay in pr5, maybe will help with w14
i didnt use either for w14
They help but still easily doable without either given modern options
Like starting from like w12 when newbs are able to grind
The problem with pr5 is you're completely cucked out of opsi fleets
I copied this setup for nugget
but its not as consistent cause I'm missing oaths
Since I have a sashi oathed if I slot her in instead of alsc and ply instead of mog, are there any gear changes I'm looking at for sashi?
this setup used 14 CV rld to keep the timings consistent
Which build has the highest probability of giving a CL or CA?
Pr4 is kinda like the base for your opsi fleets
Agir+ anch as tanks, avp as CV core, haku
yea then shinano from pity over time
It'll pretty much be the same, mog is more prone to die tho
I'll change mog for ply I think
That won't work at all, Mogs the core of the fleet
I hate the rng cause I keep hitting 1.3m lol
alright
no La9 
You don't need it, shove a manjuu in her
no tenrai for haku 
Helldiver
I'd prob diver amagi instead
Well doesn't really matter if timing works
I'd drop rpg tho, fucks timing
there was also this setup I think
I guess I'll try with FW190 and cry
Need a good aux
Em or toolbox
Oh hey riceist
Man's spelling my name wrong on purpose
how does her ramming help 
what's a good place for netdecking team setups
If you run implac you don't really care for it, she's just there to line up unzen
Ectl
Someone can prob cook for low campaign here
I guess another limitation is I dont have +13 VIts
ectl?
going to test this
English community tier list
would rld matter tho
isnt it already tuned
Just max rld
I don't know of that has enough damage to one shot
With maxed gear it does consistently, ie la9
anyone can help me build a sub team?
Yeah I saw Jimmy's vid on it, Fw-190 a6 though I have my doubts on
UR gear diff Im 26/50
i'm pretty sure la9 works too lol
which is why I'm so off
I ended my 3 week la9 drought yesterday and finally got mine done
how do ppl get them so quickly
I keep doing Q but no dice
I got like 1/2 of mine from nyak faces
hodonaru
Doing Q from the start
Cubing helps with that
I do D and Q mostly
And by that I mean gear focus from the start
I think for the average player pr4 focus is more comfortable even after coining
for someone min/maxing pr5/7 focus is better in the long run
Honestly same
Is it really minmaxing you can't do opsi
I'm still 40/50 
I got hard fucked by events and had to stop cubing
I did get some gold Qs maybe I pop off
but we have 69 days of nugget surely I get la9 before that
I feel like a min/maxer can make up for the lack of agir
anchor will finish at the same time with or without pr4 focus
so it is really only agir/AvP maybe
and the gear
so far I have only gotten 1.42 three times with the alsc setup
There's always the haku comp
what does it look like
Only 1 rainbow UL and 34/50 first La-9
this season has been ass for me
wouldnt that need triple tenrai?
Btw your ca rld should be 0
wdf
at least you're ahead of me, I'm still stuck at 32/50 for my La-9
these are some crazy tech
for all the comps?
Yes I make fucked up comps
okay I'll try imp on 0 ca rld
Or like 6 if unzen unoathed
when i have attempt
Well this is mainly for newb reccs/ progression
yeah which is why i feel like pr4 is still the best
Well the question now is does it change when pr4 goes to gear lab
skipping pr4 gets u like 3-4 months back in the end
and u finish plymouth sooner
which is not a big gain in the end
I think it's like 2 if even that
well u kinda have to stay for the tenrai if u start pr4 so i doubt 2 months will get u that
Finishing ply doesn't do anything of you don't have a good tank
Tbh tenrai is skipable cuz gear lab
Grab 2 from gear lab and 1 from cores
but then you waste like 25+ prints or so 
and tenrai will likely use t3 ord which is not the easiet thing to get
You just save 25 bp of cores
that is true 
u dont stay for the 2nd ply gun
?
u will likely finish it before u finish the season anyway
Not like u will be actively coining pr5
I think you buy tenrai from core right away, even before starting pr4
If anything you stay for brest idk about plygun
yeah but right now u get 2nd copy before u move on anyway since the DR take so long
i guess with coining + catchup + pr4 focus u are likely to finish the season without being close to the second tenrai copy
I don't really see a need for more than 1
for plygun?
yeah I was talking about tenrai but I kinda agree on ply gun
Ik ppl like em but I have barely used my 2nd copy 
I have 3, only 1 in use
Maybe agir fs5 might justify the tenrai
Would make it long enough to get it
fs5 will likely be accompanied by coining though
It's kinda awkward regardless since you want 3 at least
Plygun is always useful as a BB secondary
honestly there is merits to both pr4 focus and pr5 (even after pr4 coining and gear lab)
with pr4 focus u get good ships faster and u save protocore on tenrai (which can go into buying bf109/saiun kai)
if u are slow i guess u stay for 2nd tenrai
with pr5 focus u save 2-3 months and get plymouth sooner 
I personally think pr4 focus is the more comfortable option
Ye but no one in their right mind would recc it
But that's only sth to worry about once you've got enough of everything else already
Doing pr4 saves a metric ton of ords
I’m in tw server, why does it say I can coin for other stage 3 ships but not drake? Ty
Cuz Drake is rainbow and rainbows are special
because Drake didn't get coining until the PR4 PRs did
tw slow probably
Ohhh icic thanks lol
so you still have to wait 4 months ish
drake is DR rarity
the others are PR rarity
usually DR coining is slower by one year/season
How far is tw behind? 2 years?
We just got unzen so I think it’s ard a year?
Idt we follow the exact timeline so🤷🏻♂️
unzen is 1 yr. this might be a more brutal catchup than en 
It’s ok I’m mostly playing for the waifus so🤷🏻♂️
Ye esp with modern rerun format
Hmm when did we get DRake coining exactly?
Your the wiki guy
ohh we can use coins instead of blueprints now?
Hope we can catch up some day… alr put a bit of time and money in the game, don’t want to change servers now lol
For old seasons yes
when PR3 got coining so Janaury 2023
You mean PR4?
no
also
what's the best way to make coins in game rn
FDG and Azuma were first, they got it when the PR3 PRs got coining
12+
Grinding 12-4/13-4 basically
hmm ok I'll try
chapter 13 is such pain to beatr but I'll do it for bunker hill
oh Drake yeah, with PR4 so January this year
Opening tech boxes
that might literally be a worse job than 2-1
Someone remind me to do a pr4 vs 5 breakdown in 2 weeks
Remind Rice to break down in 2 weeks 
tech boxes huh
Thx dad
It can be as fast as a doubled 12-4 according to sources
right forgot I can scrap them kekw
You can open tech boxes and scrap the equip you get from it for coins
It involves unhealthy amounts of clicking and waiting for boring animations to finish though
No pain no gain
And a clean depot
dies to 300 depot slots ~too lazy to slap them on boats~~
I sit on 10 free slots
9 more than you need
so other than first clear and momentos
are there any new sources of gems right now
so maybe I can expand depot and dock
Don't expand depot
Never expand depot
using gem for that is very bad
i expand depot ||with guild||
well, maybe just dock
so i can fit the incoming PR ships and stuff
dock is fine yeah
it is the recommended usage for gems after 3rd dorm slot and 2nd floor
But no, there's no real gem income. There's comms and if you get lucky guild thingy, but other than that it's basically just anni or other mail compensation
Buying dock space gets you depot space
yeah maybe I will just buy a few packs in the future
how about dorm is it recommended oh ok I see the above message now
This much is
~~Disposable income is not a feature in this economy ~~
yeah wish they would give a few gems from event first clears
but hey at least this game can satisfy my urge to gacha
can't have all nice things I guess
should have returned back in August
yeah honestly I forgot about this game completely until...I bought a Weiss AL deck and got reminded of azuma and shinano
was there anni gems
man
well I just logged back in yesterday
and got a ring I think
but then it was like the last day of event and I missed out on the meta ship
that was the second ring but missed another 200 amagii gems
Is there a way to enter the center zone again?
unlock and secure the zones leading to it from the blue port
Thank you
Are there research projects that have higher chance of dropping ultra rare gear when researching, and if so what are some to look out for
Rainbow Q 
look out for 30 mins Q aka rigging analysis
rigging analysis is your main source of gear drops anyways
30m researches in general except soul forming (?) > blue q 1h > 2h > 4h (this assumes you chain them; if not chaining then reverse the q research orders) >> e/t projects (??) > grant dono 4h > rest
there's lyoko site if u want raw data
Thanks for the info
can you clear out all port shops per reset?
should you...
idk.. should I?
maybe skip repairs and tunning samples
are blue and purple development crates worth?
nah you just get surplus anyways. Pretty much just get the gold Dev crates
not particularly but if you aren't doing crazy stuff in exchange shop it also doesn't matter much. net voucher is positive
so just buy gold+ stuff and loggers
may i know how difficult this is? if i can beat 13-1 can i beat this?
that's a C5 abyssal
Ic I’ll prob just ignore it then haha
majority of st. Petersburg for the gear mats, Gibraltar for META bote stuff if you want to raise some METAs, New York for the loggers, London for the gold Dev crates and AP boxes
you have a whole month
i tried them when i did my first month.. wasted like 4 of those
What shld I do to improve?
well you're on 13-1. churn out 120's like there's no tomorrow
I have played the game for like 4 years alr haha
one mob fleet and 2/3 fleets worth of boss fleet ships
You may want more than 5/3 fleets
thank you
I have like 11 125
opsi let's u field 4 fleets for a reason. Treat bosses like a raid if you don't have much firepower at the start
I don’t think I have enough characters for 4 teams then lol
you can even do op siren with sub 120 ships if you're carefull
I did it with only 2 teams last month
Icic
i dont have many 120 ships yet
Well I’ll keep grinding and see how I do at the end of the month👍 Ty everyone:)
btw this saved me (ang this chat)
Or is it possible if I show what I have and see what teams I can form now?
I cant help you with that, maybe someone will
I'm still very new to this game
eldridge is gun or torp focused?
to finish roons final combat exp mission what is a safe way for my lv 100 graf spee, unretrofitted z23, and nurnberg to farm 11-1 and having one get mvp because unicorn always gets it.
go to 12-1 and use vestal akashi + 1 shitter
don't bother w/ MVP control, just make sure they survive all the mob fights
dork with sskd is pretty shit
preferably use some other ships without preload that you* want to level up
Pretty much two birds (frontline and backline get XP) with one stone (sorties)
does anyone have a tip 🙂 ?
Can you afford spending gold bulins on subs?
yes
ig 37, 96 and Archerfish for general content
96 37 and keep using archerfish
thank youuu 🙂
try to get u47 if you can, that's general wolfpack sub fleet w/ 37 and 96 which is pretty good
what golden plates do i need in most quantity?
plane and then gun
cant get in shop right?
47 is from build ye
as is 81
depends on what you want
BB/CA/CB/CL/DD guns all use gold gun plates
CV/Ls want gold plane plates and each CV/L has 2/3 of them equipped
then auxes in general since there's a lot of them
ok i see, do the positions of the subs matter?
yes, 81 in flag
96 flag
So, how does one pull Taihou? Or is she a limited unit?
for minmaxing purposes yes. top is eh, flag and bottom is good. Depends on the bosses' position though and thus varies by content
permanent in special build, good luck getting her tho
I'll take it lol
Perma build is scam. Roll on events,
Heard
What subs does the Wolfpack include
96 81 plus one of 47 37
Taihou pretty good but atm her constraint is the abysmal chance of getting her from perma pool and offrate in event banners.
One guaranteed way to get her though is thru CN Lunar New Year ticket, which has Taihou as an option. But for that ticket in particular, it's recommended to get one of the Chinese DDs because their retrofit pretty good
Imo taihou is as mid as hood, but the difference is that enterprise and unicorn exist and for the second fleet you could get independence and someone
can amagi ur be a substitute flagship for a mob fleet if my other option is hiei meta whos health is an issue thanks to her skill and my nelson is on boss fleet?
Sure, escort fleets work with any ships
Roma or Tempesta is probably special, just pull them, 1 a day on light till then
w1-11, 14-15? Nope. Sudoku botes exist and you won't have interception to pick them off if your frontline can't take care of some stragglers. Maybe she'll survive but I'd rather use some other BB/BC instead of Amagi CV
w12, 13? Yes you can, there's no sudoku botes there so CVs are viable as mob fleet flagships
when these no event just daily pull on special then
light
it's once daily on light, special is just bad
dont u get like 4 daily?
Doing one daily on heavy and special is just going to decrease your cube acquisition rates
yes, but you only will net 3
How many cubes do you have?
i think i have 800+
I'd rather wait for WW in that case of u wanting a specific SR/elite
net 3 is still going up thats fine
Okay, then you can pull if you want, keep above 400+ cubes though
no if you pull on heavy/special it's net 2
as long as its going up then its still fine
Whats a net 3
a gain of 3
net postive aka +3
3 cubes gained per day excluding other sources of cubes
Next is CN anni, quite the wait
daily mission gives u 4 cube and one of the mission need u do daily pull
Cringe way of saying 3 but okay
y do u need to keep above 400?
UR pity
UR events
ur pity safety measure
in case you really want a UR but are one of the 10%~ unlucky players forced to pull 200 times before getting pity
that was me for the past 6 UR events
you can honestly maintain about 250 cubes, and still hit pity
Keep more for To Love-Ru collab 
im going to mlb all ship from that event
i watch the anime the moment they said that was the comming collab
ok near 800 cube
hard pulling heavy for amagi chan


how do i get these?
From OpSi
random drops or in the shop?
random mostly
there are selectors in the shop
but torp is like the lowest on the priority list of the possible selectors
ye basically
People, what ships are best used to upgrade the rld stat?
auto select and 
you can check here https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/ or in- game in fleet technology
Fleet tech tracker for Azur Lane
that's not what he was asking about
That's for Fleet tech not Enhancement
CA main is the highest?
I honestly mostly traded fighters so far
it’s not CA main its main guns in general
Plane and main guns
main guns, planes, torps, aa guns
Which main Ship buff eagle vanguard?
Prince of Wales
Do Wishing Wells randomly drop or just in anniv
just during anniverseries
is harbin a good enough ship at max limit break to help with W15 stages?
good damage wise, but will not solve your AA problems
how many rainbow AA guns are recommended for W15? At least 2?
3
recommended? 2-3
not necessary though
if you lack rainbows, you have to compensate with sextuples instead
if you're gonna ask about harbin, might as well go for shimanto instead
i've almost finished farming up priority 5 for Plymouth and Brest, so haven't really started farming out PR6 yet
so its still a good idea to build a second wyvern .... right
yes
first ur blanks should go to ur 2-3 wyverns
im 2 pieces out. should be able to get them both soon... if the game stops giving me rainbow torp ones
how much luv per sortie do ships get from opsi?
big fat 0
Opsi doesn’t affect that
do you guys recommend using your blueprints to finish a PR5 or PR6 or just turn the prints into cores?
so after this 2nd wyvern what should i even bother getting.? im looking at a 2nd MK7 and my 2nd 100mm kai for DDs
a couple 457s
i have one of those
tbh one mk7 and one 100mm kai is also enough
you could just save the mats for tenrai next year
I guess get more wyverns for w15
my FDG needs a generic anti-everything gun, one of my Allen M Sumner variants needs a 100mm kai...
oh then that should be good to craft 
how do I change back to nagato meta?
kill her
beat this one first then head to dossier list
okay
just use auto deploy
i hopefully will get a second Tenrai soon im spamming research to attempt to get it... 37/50
ganbatte. you can do it
how does cross fleet skills work, do they need to be within a certain distance?
read the skills
No, it’s basically a supporting barrage/ skill that affects another fleet
Say fleet A is in battle, and fleet B has a ship with cross fleet
Then the cross fleet will activate while fleet A is fighting
..because i somehow can't make them work in campaign, using shinano in one fleet and amagi cv in the other, but I dont' see their barrage?
does ammo affect it?
Every 15s: fires a Lv.1 (Lv.10) special barrage. During the 1st and 2nd battles this ship fights in during a sortie: increases this ship's AVI by 5% (15%). *When the fleet this ship is NOT in starts its 3rd, 4th, or 5th * battles of a sortie, launches a Lv.1 (Lv.10) airstrike (DMG is based on the skill's level) 15s after the battle starts.
if I use double drop, does it also count as 2 clears for war archive ship progress
no
welp this gonna take a while
oh i see, it's that specific, the 3rd, 4th, 5th 
does shinano's crossfleet barrage work in opsi? since you cant count the battles the same way as in stages
yes
Yes but its for less battles than campaign
her skill has an opsi version description if you click on it i believe
never saw this before. thanks!
ship usually drops before the pity
is there a new safe to scrap equipment thing
like is there blue or grey that i need to watchout for
or if all purple is shit now (except helldiver and BB old ass gun)
No, but there is still the old safe to scrap that afaik is still valid
Does it matter which three subs I use for submarine support? Or are any three subs good enough?
there are differences between the subs not its not even close to as big difference as with normal fleet ships
can give me the link again. i lost it
then again we probably think a different old safe to scrap list
#bot-spam /equip
thanks
What does this drone actually do when deployed out on the field?
is there an aux that slows down carrier loads?
dark manjuu
how do i obtain it?
core data
thanks
supposedly it does a teensy, eensy, weensy bit of bullet damage. I suspect it also actually does a little aa and drops a sonar scan but would prefer someone verify that.
supposedly a teensy, eensy, weensy bit of bullet damage may be helpful if the enemies have a teensy, eensy, weensy bit of HP. I suspect cheeky could tell more 
What does afaik mean?
"as far as i know"
afaik afaik stands for “as far as I know”
I thought it mean "afraid" but typo
submarines arent mandatory, just some niche use case (" wow look at that 100k dmg subs so guuud! not ")
/crossfleet
should i put kron or napoli as main tank? 
is napoli d30
I doubt your Napoli is MLB, so Kron
i see so kron for now but once i manage to mlb napoli i swap?
sure
how does napoli compare to the other tanks btw?
is there a better ship to keep a fleet alive than uni? 
Depends, but in general mobbage not rly
uni is the best at what she does
~~ better then amagi chan~~
amagi chan is cute
Who is biggest priority in pr5?
i see, i m still playing single fleet and the moment i take uni off, my fleet die from poke damage over time 
Plyority 
Harbin and Brest are also quite good, Chkalov is decent, Ruppy is nothing special imo
Is there a list of gear that changing music ?
wut? i can t do agir? 
you already gotten 150
i can do 150 for both agir and haku? 
yes
oh, i didn t notice, is that why you can only do 150 for dr? cause you can do them all? 
12-1 90+ is good enough even with mediocre ships
double fleet? i can barely manage solo fleet up to then with a single 120 fleet of random ships 
I don't push things past 70 these days vefore throwing them in
that honestly sounds like a very massive skill issue if lvl 120 ships are struggling in W12
i didn t watch how i die but i think it s the usual flagship got killed again cause everything focus it situation 
time to test to see what went wrong
I doubt 70 is your average lvl tho
Is napoli functional at dev 25?
Of course not
What is she missing at 25?
you can prob clear 90% of the game with anything so depends on where you use her
5 dev levels 
Mostly fleet tech tbh, other than that just Siren Killer, AoA and 5% weapon efficiency
And some stats from the 5 dev levels
Oh I didn’t know fleet tech was locked to mlb
Is Napoli damage good?
Or is it more in line with CBs?
She's pretty much another cb
what tech do ruppy and daisen give
pr 5 and dr 4 coinable january 2025 or nah?
ruppy 2 HP 1 FP 🚮
daisen 1 EVA 2 FP 
what tech does Amagi chan give
+1 brainrot

Most likely
is chang chun worth retrofitting and what abt tai yuan
tai yuan > chang chun
oh
both not worth?
its fine
do i need more than 1 sub fleet anywhere
but if u have ty retro item no point using spec cores on chang chun retro item
haru dev 25 usable?
yes
whats next after fdg haru azuma and agir now
anchorage
no not prs already got the good ones
mlb some not good ones then
should i not go for any other drs
do the ones closest to d30 next
no i meant unlocking i only have those 4 at dev 25
or something coinable if u arent coining anything rn
is dr3 coinable
i meant unlocking aswell
oh by bps
so no priority based on good ship among drs then?
why does everyone say fdg is a priority but not azuma
not rly because dev 0 ships arent usefull
coz fdg is a better ship to prio than azuma and u cannot coin 2 DRs at the same time
is agir better than azuma
most of the time yes
does haru replace enty ?
can or can be together with enty
does this mean enty is useless now
having top ships for options is never useless
i can mlb kron or soyuz, which one? 
soy
slash wiki fleet technology
but I want you to slash wiki fleet technology
hp/fp
hp/hp
hp/trp
blucher it is
I'm still sad that Blucher doesn't have a skill that makes her sink thirty seconds into the battle.
🤨
Is there a way to unlock the center area again?
finish story
clear the 4 areas surrounding it amagi chan brainrot progressed too far
oof finish story, that exclaimation point bubble
I’m at Ch. 7 practice battles
yes finish those 
I see now, thank you for the clarification
Was the testing between Alsace & Vanguard finished? Afaik they drawed right?
Yes their drawings were beautiful
assuming not unnatural battle length they are pretty equal in a bb fleet and it will depend on the fight gimmicks armor and ur gear investments
and rest of the fleet
In other words they're pretty equal in a 3~4 salvo environment and below that Alsace pulls ahead and above that Vanny?
probably, i have not run alsus in any cm yet so i can't say but i would expect that
alsus
is there anything special u get when u finish 15-4?
Husten 2 if you're lucky
housii but might have to finish it some more
might not even have to fully finish 15-4 too
wht is that?
A seriously misspelled ship name.
i think her name is houston ii
damm she looks so nice
Gems if 3*
nice
The edit distance for Husten 2 is only 2
how nerfed is hindo with 2 drake guns vs hindo with 2 hindo guns, is a mixed loadout viable?
tbh the only real diff would be that Drake guns cant pierce
either way 1 drake 1 hind gun works find
Kinda depends what you're fighting
For general purpose Drekguns should be a bit better due to balanced mods
anyone got a list of all the useful gears in Core shop?
/coredata
thanks
@undone plover finally got her

i will send my team for you see

i got all them now
can u post your vanguards?
negative points for non mlb amagi cv
k wait
is Mogami missing in ECTL ? I can't seem to find her in either CL or CA section
Tier 2 in CA/CB section
it is not
By cap-sensitive , I mean when I searched "mo" , she didn't show. but when I seach "ro" , Roon shows

weird.. now it works.. I dunno what happened> maybe i left a space at the end
mogami isn't a CL?
it's entirely a you issue
she is, retrofit turns her into a CA though
mogami is the only non bbv/ddg retrofit that changes hull type
quite moggers some would say
most ships that had a conversion have been released as a gacha ship
Is Tai Yuan Retro better in Vanguard or Main Fleet mode?.. not sure what it changes..
vanguard
/ddg
DDG Mechanics
Vanguard Mode:
- No Preloaded Missile
- No "timestop" on missile launch, can't manually aim; missiles are launched automatically
- Missiles travel similar to surface torpedos
- Main Gun shell speed +20%
- AoA reduction carries over (8 shots for AoA)
Backline Mode:
- Preloaded Missile
- Gains "timestop" on missile launch; can manually aim (similar to BBs)
- Missiles launch in a tall arc with low spread (similar to Georgia barrage)
- HP +50%, Evasion -40, Damage Taken -20%
- AoA proc every missile shot
- Gains "Hidden" mechanic; Damage Dealt +15% when "Hidden"
- Main Gun range set to 75 (used for intercept; greater than twin 130 and twin 128 base ranges)
Note: Vanguard Mode has higher overall damage output since DD guns hit more enemies. Backline mode still has decent damage, however.
it's not really even a conversion, the IJN just conveniently designed the Mogamis so that the triple 6s could be swapped with Twin 8s
unlike her cursed CAV configuration they did later on
Hey guys. While my account is fairly old by now, I never really got into Azur Lane before and I wanna try to put in a conscious effort to finally start playing for real. Over the course of the my account's lifetime I acquired a couple of ships, but I have no effin' clue as to who to focus on in order to progress through the story (I never went past chapter 2) and do events and stuff in order to slowly catch up.
If it's not too much trouble, could i get some advice in regards to what characters to put in my fleets (and in which lineup specifically)? Attached are all the 4 and 5 stars I have.
CBV Hildebrand 
Hood, Essex, Unicorn, Portland, starter, Helena
and give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
Sweet, needed something to blow some gold on since I was near the cap and Tai Yuan I have at lvl 100 so I just fully retro'd her 
Much appreciated!
Btw, does anyone know how much each level the guild cat box discount reduces the cost by? I know its 1500 without any reduction..
I only ask since I now have the guild tech for dock slots, warehouse slots, and oil storage cap all maxed now
and Coin storage cap seems like a waste since it only raises the soft cap, not the hard cap of 600k
u dont really have many good vanguard options
maybe u can use kasumi meta for mob now
so kasumi META, z23, sirius for mob
portand helena laffey for boss
push as much as u can then if u cant push further stay in a map and raise your ships there
Catbox discount is 15 gold each level.
None of the guild tech is "worth" it except for dock slots. Everything else upgrades stuff you either don't need, won't use, or by so little it makes no difference.
it's in the guild page for the wiki
/wiki guild
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Guild
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Guild_Shop
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Guild_Events
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Guide:_Low_Cost_Farming
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Guide:_Leveling
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Guide:_Progression
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Translation_Guide
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Style_Guide
ahh, so basically pointless then.. guess I can just stockpile my guild coins now then
the cost progression for all research is there
yeah same pushed my own guild to focus on maxing dock slots first
they were doing oil cap or some reason 
(Hope the second ping is alright)
Is this lineup correct, then? 
yes
Alright, thank you! Is there any specific level I should try to push these characters to ASAP?
I know retrofit requries certain levels to unlock the nodes, for example
not partcularly, just push the main campaign, and also limit break your ships
If I have dupes I use them to limit break to save bulins for other ships, yes?
yes
there really isn't a need to keep dupes, i mlb UR dupes but find it hard to find place to use them with all the other useful ships around
only really get a chance when the original hits the 3m 125 cap
Any suggestions for a second fleet with the rest of my units? 
stick to one fleet for now
don't worry about a 2nd fleet till World 9 ~ 10
Ooooh, I thought you needed them MUCH earlier than that. Alright, thank you!
does a plygun secondary for mobbing in w15 have a noticeable advantage over using the vanilla 155 trip?
or just stick in on a vanguard boat? was thinking of putting it on felix
not sure where you got that from. you will make it back very quickly.
unless he isn’t active in guild activities 
Better put on Felix if you use Felix
does xp from opsi count for shipyard
Is my team good?
no
what i change
where are you in campaign
9-1
stop using non mlb ships, boss fleet needs a tank
which tank do I put in and in whose place?
within context as to who you have im gonna say napoli instead of helena tank
but of course you don’t have napoli

Prob easier just to share your dock in a thread 
wsp coop
yea, i don't have napoli, i can create a thread and send my dock
i already sent a print of my entire collection
Hello, which is the best UR Design selector should i prioritize as my first UR gun, Torp Planes or BB Guns?
wyvern so planes
same with UR Ordnance priority?
ord priority is 457mm
Thanks for the answer
where do I retire ships? no kap I actually dunno how to do it except when dock is full
Hey so I wanna know if musashi dealing an average of 17k damage is normal or what? during alot of my boss fights she leaves the rest of my fleet behind and I'm trying to see if she's an exception or something else
build -> retire tab
what boss, what level is she, what's the level of her skills, what gear is she using, what enhancement level is the gear, what's the rest of the fleet, etc
I'll send a screenshot
what are the odds musashi is not mlb
I give it 60/40 odds
well that's a waste of ~240 gold plates
rip gold plates
What are the odds unicorn is in the fleet
Are Georgia guns still worth the UR secret prints when I have +13 champs already
so what to use?
IJN Triple 410 for anti-med/heavy
IJN Twin 410 for mobbing/anti-light (if you dont mind her not syncing with Helena and dont have other UR BBs that can replace her)

ERM general chat 

That’s what I get told every time 

ERM general chat 
Goober 
is Fu shun good?
Erm general chat or else banned
not rly
Wait for her DDg retro
I heard she'll good
you heard wrong cause she isn't good
cheeky i just had some impossibly tight schlieffen dispersion
backseat modding is also against the rules 
~~Vermont more satisfying, I penned 11 shells once ~~
Let me know when you triple cit an Iowa
are you guys seriously talking about wows in ALO gph
Who said this was wows....
now im going to bed before admins come and administrate gn 
Definitely AL
not that I care, im no gph mod
not like the gph mods care
cheeky new announcement dropped
What's the difference
are META ships good?
some are, most aren't that remarkable
is F4U core exchange only
pirate squad F4u is
yes the corsair one
man I also need a few more beacons
would these two teams work in chapter 13? left mob right boss

welp
I saw that
oh I didn't have the good laffey
I said regular Laffey, of course I didn't mean Laffey 2
and at minimum, not using Unicorn is basically just actively griefing yourself
are bombs>la 9 for heavy
uh
isn't laffey's aa bad
and ill answer you, they wont work in chapter 13
not really worse than your other options
@viscid swift what's your name about this time
it's a joke/trolling
Nyakbad
spin off of a wows copypasta
the joke would have been a lot more appropriate with Vanguard back when she released
Does rudder go on eldkai or shimakaze
neither
no
Then who
a cruiser probably
cruisers
Anchorage?
works
I need more context, just so you can talk more about wows
someone said good ship bad
Elite ones from cruise pass have almost been universally garbage outside of the few that have good fleet tech
SR ones from showdown can be basically summed up as "Good/Great but better options exist" and some do have higher value mainly for their fleet tech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi1xxq_h59U
this is all the context you need
someone of the same mind as ectl’s why no slutty lion witch
rudder DD list
What about on a rudder/box setup
Probably like four more DDs get the Rudder.
Specifically, I was comparing +13IPH + Box vs 550 + Box
so, what should i buy ?
well that was bad
i bought the gear skins because they were limited 
are you the proud owner of 4 hiei crystals with no hiei?
oh he is
I don't know how that's even possible
big 🧠 moment
but id pick up the cog arrays
only the best for amagii
this guy gets it
is this important to unlock?
So.. for newbie neko, which is the best ?
Prob grab some tech boxes
Hello there, what second team you guys would recommend me to make with these ships?
Who said he bought 4 crystals?
what crystal ?
do the crystals disappear from event shop? 
The gear skin, is just cosmetic, right ?
yes
yes
Yes, but they're event limited and beautiful
ok, im going to buy that
You can only afford 3 gear skins though
None for now, but you can start leveling up Helena and San Diego
yeah, but im still going to take as many as i can
cuz gear, other stuff, i can grind them, later
any advice 10-1 then? it is kinda hard to make it with only one team
Putting hiei in flagship position would help, the rest is gear
max limit breaking Amagi for one
And retrofit unicorn before attempting
is there a point to hit 3 stars in campaign ? cuz sanking all enemy ships kinda hard
It unlocks hard mode and gives gems
it's easier to do after you get it to safe mode
if it's chapter 9 or above, worth doing that. else wait till your fleets get stronger
what chapter should I be farming retrofit parts
highest you can
bet
hello
What’s the general consensus on Amagi CV and is she better than Shinano/Hakuryuu
Lord Mori hello there
Amagi will/can replace Hakuryuu in most cases 
Hi
hola 
hello
Erm general only 
now you're just being annoying
do I need t0 tenrai for my team? i am going to replace saratoga w amagi vc.
and can I build it with 20 pieces only
you need 50
tenrai is more of a want than a need
if you have it, good
if not, then also good, just use a helldiver
~~ cap~~
Which blueprints should I buy
/protocore
PSA, never buy ship BPs with protocore
design. tenrai or q152 whichever one gets to you 50. if none just wait on rainbow gear
Now u know how I feel 
nah, i couldn't care less

What event is coming next?
Musashi rerun Cope
i dont think we know anything about an upcoming event
ah ok thanks
We know it has ships
Prob Roma rerun
Does the azur lane story player show the character sprites?

OK thanks, it must be something w/ my computer and/or adblock
Why look at a site instead of ingame?
I ran out of time before I finished the story 😦 will it still work in-game?
If you unlocked them
Yeah I ran out of time before I finished the whole thing. Was doing it over 2 nights but lost track of time.Might have to do it on PC
I mean, this event you could just press skip 25 times aamnd get reward 
yah oops 
should i spend these in a ship i have so that i can get some cores?
yes just convert them to core. make sure the one being converted to are at max dev
got it ty
Is VIT2 worth using over the Jp conv torps?
as long as you can find the sync timing
good for now?
gear ok, limit break not ok
better to use ship that you can max limit break
bismarck- enterprise-unicorn(retro) work?
Does faster airstrike launch time generally means better?
not necessarily
start raising Nelson then
thanks for the help , i will do that
I'm always scared of the fleet desyncing with Helena, I'm not really sure what to use tbh.
dont use helena 
but it's easy to sync especially with CV
but yeah if you're worry of desync with helena, the easiest solution is to not use helena
in single bossing context, at least
Is JP torps with 2 catapults worth using over VIT2 with 1 catapult, and 1 beacon? Feel like I'm losing dmg here...
what are you trying to do?
Well, trying to figure out if I should use VIT2 in my IJN CV fleet.
Do i need 2nd fleet in World 11? im still working on my boss fleet idk if i can clear W11 with this garbage vanguard
you want to have 2nd fleet for w11, it's quite brutal with suicide boats
It's highly recommended you start leveling a 2nd fleet in w9
ok I should start then
Is vit-2 better than b7a?
Not necessarily, more of a sidegrade
Would these 2 fleets work for w12?
change the baltimore
I have a question, reset time and research coin prices discounts arent synced?
Is she bad? I started leveling her a bit ago to replace portland kai
well not that she is bad, more of her state at only 1LB and lv74
Oh yeah she's not in my fleet atm, I'm still leveling her
is unocorn normally pretty squishy? sometimes she does before i can take out all the mobs :/
Portland kai is still in that slot, but was wondering if when she's maxed she'll work
most ships work at w12
this didnt happen, anyone knows why?
Oh aight, cause I was warned about the aggressive air in w12
im at w 12 but my mobs team is sometimes dying
what are you using? 
it's not that bad. you're fine with 2 CV
are they all mlb?
cause if they are... how the fuck are they dying
or having 0 gear equipped
it's not 4am yet
only mogador isnt MLB
wait its 4am in what timezone?
oh so 11am at +0
which to be fair i was fighting world level 12 -2 and my boss team lost that fight
well, check your ships. a lv125 unicorn shouldn't be dying
was big sad to be sure
thank you
More likely a gear issue, but even ungeared Urs shouldn't die
How do you create a thread? I'm trying to show yall my gear for my ships
Why I keep dying?
ask, why sometime im grinding on opsi didnt got xp comandder?
The red? Iirc mobs don't give anything
One of the colors don't give anything i forgot even tho I wrote the guide
the red? , sometime they give like +24
but sometime give +0
Still 2 more hours to go...
sorry i forgot the game didnt auto time zone
is it a good idea to change blueprint catchups from FdG to Anchorage once I get all the FdG blueprints I can get from it?
The red always give xp, the bluee don't
is there a list for gears that is safe to scrap?
Ship Maintenance crane
still the funniest equipment in the game
wait what, that is not an accel?
It's actually worse than the ghost gun.
don't ask me why I know the gun, I definitely did not use it
Should musashi use two of this?
not good for support carriers? I have like 2 of them +11
better to use skyrockets, which have even faster intercept cooldowns than the me155
you need quantity more
I swear someone said using these is good
they are, but they aren't the best for support fleet
the best is pancake?
if you have the mats lying around, i guess
very expensive tho
i would prio pancakes for your mainfleet ships
crafting an additional 6 pancakes aint cheap
6 pancakes isn't even optimal
how long opsi port store resets?
Monthly
should i wait every month?
yes
wait, can we take a look at what your opsi store looks like?
isnt it all the same for every player?
not if you havent experienced your first reset yet
There are 2 different opsi stores, one is for newcomers and the one is the default for players after their first month after completing opsi chapter 4
this?
Is Colorado Good? (literally a crab)
every month then yes and "unavailable" unlocks when u secure enough zones (as indicated by the headings)
good but other options are better like nelson
yeah ik, been lacks out action points to do
I have nelson too. 👍
guys does the first recharge bonus give you for buying any thing with real money?
or must it be only gems packs
you get it for any real money purchase, no matter how small
ah i see
does the beginner support event that lets u buy a lot of materials still here?
i started a new acc and theres like a point system for beginners that let u get cubes and stuff
back then a few months ago
Oh okay and my apologies. I didn't know about that
right now i have 2 champa guns need 15 more bps for the 3rd one... 15bps is 225 protocore, i need 2400 for tenrai and have a total of 2700.. can i buy tenrai as i will have champa next month (already bought the 20 bps this month) anyway?
sure
Tenrai is prob a little higher priority, champygun is kinda falling off as of late, still a good gun nonetheless
I got it already, cant really +13 tho..
going from sb2c to tenrai should be a big improvment no?
that is very big
so now this is somewhat not so bad anymore
The problem with CVs is each slot is prob less than 1/3 of the damage
so dmg comes from where if not slots? theirs skills alone?
Combination of everything
So upgrading a single slot is going to be less than you would expect
so that is why CV studff should be kept at +10 for now
as upgrading a bb gun to +13 would be a bigger ste+p up?
Ye, you often prio gold bossing gear over rainbows
only +13 i have are champa guns
+13s come with time, you don't really need them until like ... Ever...
so if i really like a unit, lets say amagi, im not really losing much by +13 steam cats
as i will eventually +13 it anyway (even if its not a priority)
+13 catas are just for aesthetic sometimes
yeah I messed up then
only good +13 i have are champas and quad mags then
Those are fine
yuudachi is my most damaging unit still, idk why
I only know 2, the quad mag and the event one.. there's a 3rd one?
rainbow torp?
Rainbow Quint mags is reasonable
it will take some time for me to get that
And uss mags are pretty reasonable too
Not a high prio, you'd rather get more quad mags
I will keep getting them
Not worth the rainbow mats until you have an abundance
I have never used rainbow mats
but yeah i still dont have that many
You'll prob want wyverns first anyway




