gameplay-help

[subtle cloud]

ok awesome thanks

[crisp wadi]

Is there any differences CV plane set up for mob and boss? iirc sometimes a ship using 2 DB and sometimes its F, DB, and TB. Sry if my questions seems hard to understand

[finite crag]

very different, one of the biggest one being you use a completely different type of tb, parallel vs converging

[novel solstice]

Also, for bossing, you tend to want everything synchronized -- one ship will do something to freeze the enemy in place, and everyone else should launch in the very short window when the enemy is frozen or slowed, and/or helena buffs damage and everyone else launches when the damage buff is active. For mobs you want them anti-synchronized; you don't want to overkill one enemy with stacked attacks, you want your attacks spread out so that you hit as many different enemies as possible.

[eager mulch]

meh depends on the boss

[crisp wadi]

Damn, I rarely using CV fleet for hard content so I try to understand it better. Its seems more complicated than I think

[novel solstice]

Armor type of the boss also plays into it. Some aircraft are better against light armor, some are better against heavy, there isn't a single set that's perfect against both.

[tropic path]

Just got Amagi at 186/200. Is it worth to go to pity to get another copy for limit break?

[finite crag]

depends on how many cubes you have left but id go for it sure

[atomic abyss]

how many cubes do you have

[tame jungle]

how many cubes left + how much spec core/bulins

[tropic path]

I have 270 ish left. New player, been playing for 3 months

[eager mulch]

NO

[finite crag]

id still go for it

[tropic path]

I think i have 4 ur bulins

[finite crag]

youll get more than enough pulls to guarantee the next ur event still aslong as you dont dump it all into random events between now and then

[atomic abyss]

i would go for it

[tropic path]

Yeah i just did the 3 daily light builds until this event

[finite crag]

1

[atomic abyss]

1 not 3

[tropic path]

Thanks for the advice

[gaunt bison]

Damn 2 sr cv's in medal shop is brutal, was really hoping to get either le malin or nagato, but guess I'll have to wait atleast another month

[blazing shale]

Does 13-4 have a better oil/coin ratio than 12-4?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[soft raft]

did you have a question or did you just missclick here instead of #al-general

[soft raft]

Yes
but at the same time, it's a bit more difficult to drag low level tech fodder through it

[knotty dome]

in opsi auto search/strategic search can get stuck on "exchange 2 opsi coins for reward" nodes, and i had automatically exchange items on. any way to make it skip or smth so it doesnt interrupt?

[strong tartan]

is stephen potter the only uss vanguard with ara

[gaunt bison]

misclick💀 mb

[stark quiver]

benson

[strong tartan]

ohh right benson has it

[hollow gust]

Hamman

[fast plaza]

how to farm low level ship on oil efficient worlds without them dying

[atomic abyss]

go to 12-1

you can get away with even level 10 backliners with the right ships

[fast plaza]

what if i want to lvl up the vanguard

[atomic abyss]

healer + level 70 shd be enough

[fast plaza]

oh so its not viable if the target lvl is 70 then

[atomic abyss]

[fast plaza]

i just want to farm a bunch of ships to 70 to mlb

[atomic abyss]

just use exp books like a normal person

[fast plaza]

ok , ty

[slow barn]

Can anyone tell me why I bought 600 gems and so far they haven't arrived even though the receipt appeared and everything looks nice?

[atomic abyss]

contact customer support

either via the in-game help or their email

do take note that staff is away for golden week so responses will be slow

[rich valve]

is eldridge retrofit very strong?

[lone knoll]

is nagatao meta worth to build? i dont have many bb's built (only 2)

[zenith heron]

Really good Full Vanguard Invulnerabilty user (15% chance to proc when she gets damaged)

[wind hazel]

let's see your dock

[lone knoll]

thread?

[wind hazel]

here is fine, just filter BB

[lone knoll]

bismark and tirpitz are just fodder for pr xp mission

[wind hazel]

invest in Hood and Nelson

[lone knoll]

Nelson then

Thank you

[eager mulch]

raising Nelson then you meet someone called BC locked slot

[lone knoll]

should I rase a bc then..?

[eager mulch]

luckily, hood and amagi chan are BCs

[lone knoll]

so hood > nelson (for now)

[blazing shale]

Rupprecht > Hood for escort?

[lone knoll]

I feel like sovetskaya is so bad i want to replace her

[zenith heron]

it can be, because you'll also meet BB locked slots, which isn't a problem anyway considering your progress is enough

[lone knoll]

on hard mode i get cucked by BC slots so yeah, ill build hood I guess

[stark quiver]

what armor is arbiter this month

[crisp estuary]

What in the ever loving fuck is this and how do I opt out from this, get my storage space back

[white agate]

iirc the patch download was optional,no?

[hollow gust]

Great job genius , you downloaded optional content

[boreal wagon]

they did tweet that the issue with payment is resolved (it just didnt show up in game-news for some reason)

[sinful elk]

Chat is gold rigging analysis never give rainbow bp or just my shitass luck

[atomic abyss]

Reinstall the game and opt out of it this time

[atomic abyss]

Which gold rigging analysis

It's shit ass luck anyways

[atomic abyss]

Your shit ass luck then

It's not guaranteed

There's a reason why some of us call UL a scam

[sinful elk]

Like i NEVER had rainbow bp anywhere but small and medium research

[plain saffron]

go to setting and untick apartment, then uninstall sirius content

you won't get back all storage but you get some of it at least

[soft raft]

Not exactly
3D dorm itself is a optional download for fresh installs/reinstalls

But if you already had it installed, the download was mandatory

[white agate]

fr?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[boreal wagon]

well future content for it is also optional if you untick dorm resources in settings

[crisp estuary]

It just told me I have to install. I did not know I could proceed by ignoring/pressing cancel on the prompt

[crisp estuary]

[frank quartz]

Any changes or upgrades I could do for w10, struggling atm.

[hollow gust]

Some max limitbreaks will be nice

[echo crow]

Hi I have a question

for operation siren

what ship it's better to make first, Alsace or Amagi cv?

[atomic abyss]

could you show us all the URs you have first?

[echo crow]

sure

give me a one minute

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704697430670573650/1290698365813915739/IMG_1712.png?ex=66fd6806&is=66fc1686&hm=4970c0e8f68d58d3a041c57327209ebed54396ea97fd1a5dd730c30464c8e23c&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704697430670573650/1290698366728273980/IMG_1711.png?ex=66fd6806&is=66fc1686&hm=6ff13c77457d90c0f998ec8cf44ed866aba6ac29313bbb38c878c2bc95c5e0e2&

[atomic abyss]

i said URs only

[echo crow]

give me a minute again

[atomic abyss]

nevermind

amagi anyways

[echo crow]

okay

[atomic abyss]

you are sevrely lacking in the UR CV department so

[echo crow]

yeah

I have Shinano and I still work for Haku

[keen sable]

do you not do event D3?

[hollow gust]

How do you work around Enty's gimmick

I have resorted to throwing shit at the wall and taking 6 min

Unzen sucks

[keen sable]

Mob: Indi, Uni, Sara, Brem, Kasumi META, Z23
Boss: Nelson, Enty, Amagii, Port, Hel, Sandy

use correct gear...

[shell lantern]

Quick question Is having mlb unzen and amagi cv good when paired together?

Or should I just go nj Guam and sandy

[hollow gust]

Context,matters

[shell lantern]

k

[keen sable]

they are both excellent solo ships

they are all five excellent solo ships

[ebon verge]

how much coin does it cost to buy all 8 flower gifts in serious 3d dorm?

[iron meteor]

after vanguard do i build nj or amagi cv

[eager mulch]

amagi cv

[tropic tusk]

out of the 2 which one is better to use if i want many of them

[eager mulch]

right

[tropic tusk]

how about if its this for now is it ok to use?

[eager mulch]

is it on the AA guns sheet

[tropic tusk]

yea i mean could i use that on +10 for now then later upgrad to rainbow

or this one still better?

[atomic abyss]

roomba has much better AA

[tropic tusk]

wht is roomba

[atomic abyss]

twin 113

[eager mulch]

this is roomba

[tropic tusk]

so i should keep using that till i got the rainbow one?

[soft dagger]

if an airstrike timing is just after the fighter plane intercepts, will it launch again with the airstrike or they have a cooldown?

[frank quartz]

Nop, atk requirements not met lol

[iron meteor]

do i give amagi hell cat or seafang (only ones i got)

[late pike]

help

meta showdown, what the hell am i suppose to do i need nagato meta

[soft raft]

for starters, what fleet are you using for the fight?

[late pike]

its bad ik

[soft raft]

that coudld definetly be optimized better from both a composition aspect and most likely a gear aspect as well
but at the same time, it's fine if you need to take multiple runs, Nagato META wont leave for like 4 months and she only came out like 2-ish weeks ago

[late pike]

ohhh

ohh tahts good then also i changed some stuff

agir is low in reserch but she has lot of hp

[reef flume]

Switch Eugen and Agir

[late pike]

ok

[reef flume]

I meant it as switch their position

[late pike]

yea i did

[reef flume]

Okie

[soft raft]

At least D10 Agir
I..... dunno how good of a idea that will be against a lvl 15 META fight but only one way to find out ig

[late pike]

hmm let me send my top ship girls

vanguard only

[sweet delta]

Where's Alsace?

[late pike]

main only

[late pike]

🥹

[forest palm]

[late pike]

ok so agir and laffy died but i was able to last till the end

[stark quiver]

Bro is there a server maint

[tame jungle]

where

[stark quiver]

Right now

[tame jungle]

given that i'm clearing opsi right now i don't think so

[stark quiver]

My game kicked me out and hit me with the server maintenance message

[atomic abyss]

is called a connection error

[stone cradle]

Do I swap black or white shell for vanguard aux?

[eager mulch]

what vanguard aux

[stone cradle]

The control table sorry

[eager mulch]

black shell then

[stone cradle]

Aight thanks!

[neon finch]

is 11-4 or 12-2 safer for lv grinding?

[stark quiver]

12-1 is a good spot

[neon finch]

ok

[soft raft]

12-1 and 12-4 are the most common spots

[novel solstice]

I prefer 12 over 11 due to the cog chips. You don't get many, but every one helps.

[keen sable]

well hopefully you finished cruise pass and can mlb kasumi meta

[silent relic]

should i max break limit my Shinano or use two of my bulins on Amagi (CV) instead

[stark quiver]

how does the xp you get from opsi compare to campaign chapters

[keen sable]

12-2

[pale mason]

what are the priorities to use T3 ordnance and UR main gun parts on?
i was thinking a second triple 406 or a twin 100 for main gun, and a spearfish for ordnance maybe?

[silent relic]

so i should use those to Amagi instead?

[soft raft]

Yes, mainly because Shinano is permanent so she has lower prio for bullins when you can get dupes of her naturally from Perma pity

[silent relic]

guess so

also is there any suggested gear chart for Amagi?

she wasnt added in the community tier list yet

[soft raft]

Best you can do is extrapolate from other ships on ECTL but ultimately, content dictates gear

[eager mulch]

depends on content

[eager mulch]

smh im a flapjack, tenrai, wyvern shinano believer

[keen sable]

Flap spear wyv

[pale mason]

for these materials, which of these should be the priority
i have none crafted for t3 ordnance gear, and i have 1 triple 406 for ur main gun

[eager mulch]

truly a man of culture

[crimson grove]

who's going to be least painful to level in 12-4
already have souryuuM

[stark quiver]

probably the purples
gloriuos

[keen sable]

Langley most painful because you really don't want to give up that xp bonus

[crimson grove]

i dont understand

[stark quiver]

also how did you do the thing with the tracker, you could put in ur stats and save?

[crimson grove]

langley has a exp buff I think but I'm still lost

Ja I put in all the ships I have but mostly track rld only

[eager mulch]

I leveled junyou and hiyou together and I can say that the ectl description is accurate

[stark quiver]

can it save? or only locally on your device?

[keen sable]

All of them do just fine in 12. Only one requires you to consider total fleet comp so that makes Langley the most painful on your brain.

[crimson grove]

browser cache
you'll have to make a csv file if you change browsers

[keen sable]

I levelled them separately and I can confidently say ectl is wrong

[crimson grove]

once i hit 41 I have to go fishing for other stats cause my bb rld is like 14

and I dont have remaining ships

[eager mulch]

I agree ectl is wrong amagi chan should not be that low

[crimson grove]

oh nvm its just one
but BB in general is a pain to level in 12 cause planes

[soft raft]

No not really

[crimson grove]

might do CA and DD RLD of all things next

[soft raft]

With sufficient levels, they should take tolerable levels of damage without sinking

If you're really concerned, you can do 12-1 instead of 12-4

And tbh I'd rather take planes over the suicide boat pain train

[pale mason]

anyone? or is the gear so close in impact that it doesn't matter

[crimson grove]

oh glorius can equip two torps
double wyvern time

[keen sable]

Get what you need

[pale mason]

well i feel like most of these are luxury upgrades since i have all the gold gear recommended
so which of these are 'better' to choose? i can't really say any are 'needed'

[crimson grove]

I think flag ship gear takes higher priority over vanguard gear
and #bot-spam prolly has a command for gearlab that you can use

[remote forge]

who should i mlb first
amagi cv or nj?

[pale mason]

amagi

[remote forge]

alr thx

[crimson grove]

funny fact
in my HM12 auto I have sashi mamagi nano but the MVP is hinden

[soft raft]

DD gun and Twin 457 will most likely see the most use out of them
Followed by 406 Mk 7 > Triple 234 == spearfish

Don't forget to get 2-3 Wyverns too if you haven't already

[crimson grove]

I think I have 8 wyverns and I still want more

[pale mason]

ok thanks
im working on wyverns still, im just using the prints i already have

[undone plover]

@pale mason I will add dont use the T3 ordnance yet
none of these is a MUST have and we might get a gear lab update in 2-3 months

[crimson grove]

isnt next update next year?

[undone plover]

dec-jan which is not far off

[pale mason]

oh ok i'll wait on t3 ordnance then since it seems none of the options currently are that big of upgrades

i thought spearfish might've been good but seems like not

[undone plover]

especially for t3 ord since u can only get 1 per month (unless u compose from t2 and t2 is used a lot as well

[undone plover]

spearfish has some niche usage but it is not much better than a wyvern (maybe even worse situationally)

[crimson grove]

i have not seen spearfish used a lot

[pale mason]

outside of these which i have 3 of each, what are t2s really needed for? i was gonna start combining since i got a set of each of these

here's the whole list for reference

[undone plover]

it is mainly those 3 tbh but for chapter 15 u want to have a lot of flapjacks
the IJN CL gun u can get away with 2 only really (1 for each BB in ch14) and the champy gun u can get from protocore

[pale mason]

so 6 flapjacks? lol i can go do that then

[undone plover]

well kinda depends
6 is a good number
u can get away with less or need more depending on your fleet

[keen sable]

i only have 4 and 0 on support

[pale mason]

i have more UR bbs than cvs currently, but i would probably run 1 fleet of each unless ch15 you should run cv fleets only?

[undone plover]

in campaign u ideally run 1 BB and 2 CV for a number of reasons

[pale mason]

ok 4 flapjacks it is then

[undone plover]

sometimes u can change this like ch12 and 13 u can do full CV or chapter 14 u might run 2 BB 1 CV but overall 1 BB flag + 2 CV is kind of the "default comp"

[undone plover]

well some CV can run 2 fighers . u can check /w15 in #bot-spam and see what the guide suggests

[crimson grove]

dont you need more for the support fleets

[undone plover]

adding to this u will need to craft the 2 BB guns as a pre-req for the twin457 and mk7 guns (the UR BB guns)
and the DD gun is the best BB aux for DD-locked BBs like NJ

[soft dagger]

flapjacks on all possible fighter slot is too expensive

[undone plover]

yes and no
support fleet can run the german fockewulfe or the skyrocket but yeah flapjack is still the best iirc

[pale mason]

are these not fine to use

or the f4u pirate

[undone plover]

these have no interception, avoid using them in campaign
f4u pirate is good but in ch15 flapjack is the best option since u want a lot of AA and flapjack has the best AA

[pale mason]

ok i'll just make 6 (2 more) flapjacks for now and call it good

[undone plover]

yeah just have some T2 ord left in case u need em for sth but u can convert if u really want the shiny gear

[crimson grove]

I had planned out a setup with 8 wyverns

[soft dagger]

you do you

[pale mason]

yeah i had 50 saved up, gonna save now and stock up again..
actually is the rainbow dd gun a little less worth crafting now that mogador's gun exists or is it still better than a 2nd triple 406

[undone plover]

depends. mog gun and mk7 being available in gearlab certainly changes prio a bit
i personally would get another mk7
2 is usually enough especially if u use Vanguard since she is mostly support and doesnt need as good of a gun as the other 2 BB

mk7 is strictly for light armor bossing tbh
so if u want to do a lot of dmg vs light armor META fights and hard arbiter u can get it
if u dont care and mostly care for campaign u can get the UR dd gun

[pale mason]

mk7 sounds good then, ty for help

[reef flume]

@undone plover bro should I focus on wyvern or get more flapjacks?

[atomic abyss]

how many wyverns

[undone plover]

how many do u have of each?
i think get 2 wyvern first then can think about flapjacks

[reef flume]

I have none

[reef flume]

I got 2 flapjacks and 0 wyverns

[pale mason]

are these two things mutually exclusive?
you should be getting enough military components to craft wyverns whenever u can, and flapjacks when u dont have enough rainbow prints

[atomic abyss]

wyverns
2 of them

[reef flume]

So first I get two wyverns then more flapjacks?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[reef flume]

Alright

[pale mason]

you can weave in flapjacks between whenever u run out of UR prints, you won't be getting enough UR prints that you're constantly out of electronics no?

[undone plover]

somewhat
if u are lucky with your designs u might have electronics shortage

some ppl get firebrand/crest (w.e the british plane is called) from coreshop which saves them a lot of electronics

[summer echo]

who should i replace with who in my current team? i know some characters are stronger than others even tho they have lower rank but idk who is still good/reliable(it doesnt need to be pvp, just for clearing story mode)

[pale mason]

thats true, forgot i was doing that tbh lol

[summer echo]

also how to make them less "upset" idk whats it called, the little frowns they do after playing for too long

[pale mason]

put them in dorm and rest them

[summer echo]

ooh okay, thank u

[atomic abyss]

grab helena from the guild shop, replace z23
put them in dorm and stop playing
what server are you playing on? amagi? little enterprise?

[undone plover]

I would replace z23 with helena (get her from guild shop)
and replace kii with pennsylvania (also from guild shop)
save your gold bulins for enterprise (get her from medal shop)

[urban solar]

put them in dorm( ideally the bought 2nd floor) and you can also put them into the theme park if that even is still running

[atomic abyss]

it is

[summer echo]

LE server

[atomic abyss]

get enterprise from medal shop as said by faer

[summer echo]

im not rly much into pvp, i just wanna like see the story and collect characters sometimes

[summer echo]

alr, thank you so much

[atomic abyss]

most people dont give a shit about pvp here anyways

[pale mason]

thats fine, pvp's rewards is pretty mid anyways
you're not missing much by skipping it

[urban solar]

just roll pvp for the free fights from the friendly players for PvP shop ships

[summer echo]

i cant get helena, i already got unicorn from it

[undone plover]

u can refresh it once, if u havent already. try and grab the gold plates before u refresh if u ahvent already
u will want them later (plane or main gun plates)

[summer echo]

oo okay

[warm flax]

Assuming Amagi takes AvP's spot, who should Eldridge replace

[summer echo]

thank uu

[atomic abyss]

anchorage, but not necessary to use eld here if avp is there

[undone plover]

also join a guild if u havent so u get more guild coins easily

[atomic abyss]

why replace avp anyways?

[warm flax]

I want

[atomic abyss]

you want to lower the damage of your team?

[eager mulch]

eld main tank?

[warm flax]

Isn't AvP bad for heavy

So there should be instances I gotta use Amagi

[atomic abyss]

better than missing your targets entirely if they so much as move

[eager mulch]

eld kaza sirius sounds like a dead vanguard

[atomic abyss]

and in opsi, your bosses arent stationary

[warm flax]

That's why Eldridge is used

[atomic abyss]

so you lose more damage than you gain

[warm flax]

Okay

[atomic abyss]

drop haku for amagi instead

[atomic abyss]

eld is surprisingly tanky cos of her skill

at absolute worse, sirius main tank and eld off tank

[eager mulch]

How long does her slow last

and it’s only 60% isn’t it

[atomic abyss]

5s iirc
yes it's only 60%

so it's no sub for an actual freeze

tho, for new players lacking avp or an invested ark, it'd be a god send

[eager mulch]

idk 20k merit, 7 bulins, bunch of retro materials and an exclusive retro item is a lot

[atomic abyss]

i mean if they were around for her event

[stark quiver]

are there any bbs that give rld tech on obtain

[atomic abyss]

lmao no

on the other hand, aquila is the only CV that gives rld on obtain

[trim path]

is cv amagi better than fs1 hakuryuu?

[atomic abyss]

she is better than fs5 haku even
assuming mlb

[trim path]

ok ty, so in a comp of hakuryuu, shinano, and avp, i switch her in in place of hakuryuu?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[hollow gust]

This month is med ,haku >

[atomic abyss]

we werent even talking about arbi

[undone plover]

wasnt she competitive on medium as well
since she buffs nano and vanguard torps?

[hollow gust]

Yes but haku DB slot

[undone plover]

well i guess if u have skyraider sure

[atomic abyss]

even a tenrai might perform better

hard to say really

[sweet delta]

This month isn't even med

[crimson grove]

I have this for opsi cause I'm La9 less

[hollow gust]

Wait it's light

[crimson grove]

isnt it light?

I need better rng for my nugget set up too
its like 1 out 5 attempts to 1.4m

I was curious are there more units like Amagi with variable loads on two slots?
off the top of my head most URs have one slot thats flexible and some SSR CVs with one slot that has two types

[atomic abyss]

amagi is new in that regard

she has 2 flex slots
but each flex slot can only use 2 kinds of planes (instead of 3)

[sweet delta]

Haku

[crimson grove]

Haku is one iirc

[atomic abyss]

right i always forget haku

[crimson grove]

ah its two

[atomic abyss]

cos no one actually uses 2 DBs in most cases

IJN Saratoga

[undone plover]

Just need more rocket DB

[crimson grove]

whats the use case for Spearfish? it doesnt look like a bossing plane but I'm omega clueless interms of anything in AL

[forest palm]

there really isn't much use case for the Spearfish that the Wyvern doesn't already accomplish

the Rockets may help take out specific targets in mob, but it's not going to make that large an impact

[crimson grove]

I need La9
only 26/50 now

[undone plover]

for stronghold so u can keep wyverns on levelling fleets

[forest palm]

I'd rather make 10th Wyvern than bother with making Spearfish

[reef flume]

Spearfish are like femboys

[sweet delta]

[eager mulch]

[crimson grove]

whats the cost to spear vs wyvern

[reef flume]

Ordinances

[pale mason]

spear is 9 t3 ordnance which is pretty hard to get

[forest palm]

on the whole Spearfish is cheaper, but requires a far more scarce material that has application elsewhere, so Wyvern ends up being more cost effective

[elfin hollow]

Prob asked a million times but does Amagi CV's ability only trigger with default Akagi/Kaga or are alt versions like Akagi U also fine

[crimson grove]

wait thats cringe

[hollow gust]

Alt fine

[elfin hollow]

Word up, thanks

[atomic abyss]

alts are fine

not that you shd use amagi with them

[elfin hollow]

I just want to make a 4fun fox fleet

[forest palm]

I've made 3 Spearfish for testing, other than being faster I don't so much appeal to them with the price tag

[pale mason]

yup, ur only guaranteed 1 t3 ordnance each month
unless u convert t2s as well, then maybe 2?

[crimson grove]

nano mamagi sashi for nugget ig

[reef flume]

Better save up ordinances for Tenrai in case in future it'll be craftable

[crimson grove]

damn
respect
meanwhile I need more wyverns so I can concurrently break into w15 and farm w12 at the same time

[crimson grove]

yea I need 2 more tenrais
only at 2 now

[elfin hollow]

What are you struggling with on w12?

[reef flume]

You have two Tenrais?

[crimson grove]

I'm not struggling I'm farming gold

[forest palm]

don't even know if Tenrai will use Ord

[crimson grove]

ya

[reef flume]

It will

[forest palm]

that's just speculative

[reef flume]

Cuz prototype

[pale mason]

i almost have 2 as well, a side effect of doing pr4 research for the past half year and buying out the proto shop

[elfin hollow]

Coming up on 2nd Tenrai myself too, and then I need a 3rd so I can have both Shinano and Hakuryuu decked out

[reef flume]

I'm omw for my second one

Prob in future I'll make a third one

[elfin hollow]

Haku's fat ass needs me to spoonfeed her 2 extremely slow to get rainbow planes, ok woman

[reef flume]

Maybe for Implacable (which is unlikely I'll use a DB on her)

Til then, Helldivers are my best friends (and Will be such forever)

[forest palm]

no one uses DBs on Imp

[pale mason]

im sure u can make helldivers work fine lol

[crimson grove]

I cant remember any scenario where she uses tenrai

[forest palm]

cause there aren't

[elfin hollow]

if it's not BIS it's awful, and other toxic mindsets I tell myself

[reef flume]

Oh okok

[pale mason]

.. there are no BiS weapons in this game, just situationally BiS

[elfin hollow]

I know, double tenrai + pancake tends to be my ''use and forget'' build for Haku though

[crimson grove]

most of the time she's fighter with two TBs timed to your comp

[reef flume]

Maybe I should make a third Tenrai for Enterprise aswell

[crimson grove]

that sounds like a mobbing build

[elfin hollow]

I'll have to refine it when I get Nakhi to 30

atp I have no use hard pivoting either her or Shinano to bosses without a good stunner

My best bet is AVP, no Implaplaplaplaplaplacable either

Maybe i'm yapping, just feels hard to manage nuke cv's without a stunner

[reef flume]

Nun enjoyer?

[pale mason]

avp is perfectly fine no?

[reef flume]

She is. Unless you have Implacable

[pale mason]

im more saying to the quote 'without a good stunner'

[reef flume]

Oh

[crimson grove]

AVP needs fs5 and doesnt do good vs heavy so keep that in mind

[atomic abyss]

[pale mason]

i dont think you care as much about her own damage output than the fact that she slows

[atomic abyss]

avp is fine against heavy if you dont have impla

freeze is more important

[reef flume]

@atomic abyss btw, since in november there will be sashi rerun which means 2nd 460mm, do you think comps that uses it (although they'll have to be hybrid) might appear? Assuming no Helena ofc

[pale mason]

and fs5 on a pr4 should be very doable

[atomic abyss]

[livid vine]

Sooo is this airplane worth using, making it +13?

[reef flume]

People uses AvP for freeze only

[atomic abyss]

yes

who even said there'll be musashi rerun in nov

[reef flume]

Corrected. I said "september" by mistake

[eager mulch]

speculation

[crimson grove]

is that not like omega snail to be practical outside of niche scenarios?

[livid vine]

What does. It do? It doesn’t seem all that special

[eager mulch]

rockets are cool

[reef flume]

Just speculation. She could even be in march as far I am concerned

[atomic abyss]

anyways, no, i dont see much use for double 460mm comps

[elfin hollow]

Really curious to see how a level 30 Nakhimov performs. She looks so fun to play with

[atomic abyss]

strongest CV in theory

[atomic abyss]

it's the best fighter against med and heavy armour
and 2nd best for light

[reef flume]

Alr (triple comp in future copium then)

[noble tulip]

She's good, but it feels like she's lacking a 3rd

[atomic abyss]

triple i can believe

[eager mulch]

can a nyak beat out a 100% enty

[pale mason]

do the pr7 dr ships have fate sim?

[elfin hollow]

no

[reef flume]

No

[pale mason]

thank goodness

[stark quiver]

it just came out, there wont be fs soon

[elfin hollow]

Thank fuck for that too, I'd barely finish those before pr8 drops

[atomic abyss]

not even agir has fate sim LOL

[reef flume]

Cuz Agir is still so good that she doesn't need one yet

[pale mason]

idk what the requirements are for fate sim tbh
i guess it's just to buff already released ships?

[elfin hollow]

Doubt they'll give Plymouth one either, Brest maybe

[noble tulip]

Well she's kinda falling off nowadays, still very good in majority of cases

[reef flume]

Ply so broken that the best case might be in few years

[atomic abyss]

for PRs, 1 year after release
for DRs random, but at least 2 years after release, and only 1 at a time

[elfin hollow]

Ägir is also a very good research for a new account

[forest palm]

Agir really hasn't fallen off

[crimson grove]

fallen off how

[elfin hollow]

Get an NJ from the gacha and an Ägir from the lab and you're set

[noble tulip]

Falling off as in she's not the number 1 option anymore

[atomic abyss]

get and fdg and anchorage from lab*

[noble tulip]

But she's still broken doesn't matter

[atomic abyss]

agir is lower prio than ancho and fdg

[forest palm]

that's a touch daft

[elfin hollow]

FDG too yeah

[eager mulch]

shiw

[full musk]

I don’t have a single bb from the medal shop, so 2 things: who should I get for my second team and is hiei meta worth maxing out and using over any of these ships?

[elfin hollow]

FDG will put your fat ass on her back and piggyback you all the way to idk, w12 probably

[stark quiver]

hood = good
w/o context

[reef flume]

Btw are there fate sims that are not worth it?

[pale mason]

but if there's no content that she's 'falling off' in then is she really 'falling off'

[atomic abyss]

hood
the better question is, do you even need a second fleet yet

[forest palm]

also this game is situational you're not using 1 ship for everything

[reef flume]

Underrated comment

[stark quiver]

w14, she'll work good until there

[reef flume]

[elfin hollow]

Yeah but you can't bruteforce w13 with FDG alone I feel

[stark quiver]

well yea thats a given

[elfin hollow]

Fair, Shimanto also an elite research imo

But I fucking hate San Diego so I never use her if I can help it

[reef flume]

I am in w13 and using FdG there is not worth it. I use her in mob, and in w13 I prefer run triple carrier

[atomic abyss]

ships you dont use

[full musk]

Not really, but I recently got shimakaze so I wanted to xp level her and a couple other “good” ships not in my primary (Helena, saratoga, enty, San Francisco, shimakaze)

[reef flume]

No I mean like... Fate sims that does so small on a ship that are not worth completing them

[atomic abyss]

drop the shimakaze asap

[forest palm]

if you're looking from a technical standpoint there's only about 8 research ships where Fate Sim actually has value, and the rest are just extra

[atomic abyss]

you absolutely do not have her mlb

[noble tulip]

That's also fair but I personally don't use her much anymore, in campaign there are better option and for meta you can just run eldridge or make ply/mog your tank these days

[elfin hollow]

What Taz said

[full musk]

[atomic abyss]

so garbage

[elfin hollow]

Most of the ancient PR ships are powercrept even with FS5

Obvious exceptions like FDG and Hakuryuu

[reef flume]

Could you name me them🙏

[elfin hollow]

FDG, Hakuryuu, AVP, Drake (maybe?), Anchorage, Harbin if you're reaching

[full musk]

Am I stupid for grinding guild points to buy as many sr iron bloods as possible for tech points to get Friedrich Der Große

[elfin hollow]

Nah, that's what my gf did and it paid off wonders for her

[reef flume]

No you are not

[elfin hollow]

FDG is a 1 woman army, very good early research

[atomic abyss]

no, but you would be considered stupid for using a non mlb shimakaze

[stark quiver]

drake is completely off the meta even with fs5

[forest palm]

• Izumo
• Kitakaze
• Azuma
• Gascogne
• Odin
• Hakuryuu
• August
• Harbin
• Shimanto

[elfin hollow]

Yeah Drake I was reacching on hard tbh

Ah yeah true Shimanto now as well, such a stupid strong AA ship

[reef flume]

I am waiting pr6 blueprints catchup to get those juicy 300 Shimanto bps and then starting work on her

[elfin hollow]

Soon

[full musk]

Ah ic glad I didn’t swap for z23 but I will once I get mlb

[pale mason]

do that, and also do war archive battles to get some ships as well, i forgot which one is best for iron blood ships but that's how i got enough

[elfin hollow]

If there is a god Musashi is reran before the end of the year

[full musk]

Btw is hiei meta alright I couldn’t find much on her as a new unit

[forest palm]

oh, right Izumo also gained value out of her Fate Sim, forgot

[elfin hollow]

META ship so bad

[noble tulip]

That's very likely

[reef flume]

Also, I need to raise a hms vanguard asap, otherwise I can forget about Plymouth

[elfin hollow]

Yeah I'm guessing somewhere next month

[atomic abyss]

hiei meta is decent
you can use her as a bosser (assuming you invest in her) and hood as your mobber

[elfin hollow]

Bought the skin as a good little consoomer

[noble tulip]

There should be one more UR rerun this year, and she's next in line

[stark quiver]

shes the usual decent gold meta bb, but she wont be used by a lot of ppl

[pale mason]

are any of the META ships worth grinding for? I kinda stopped even doing the meta battles cus it's so tedious

[undone plover]

Mainly for tech
The SSR carriers and QEM

[pale mason]

what is QEM lol

[hollow gust]

QE meta

[undone plover]

Try and find comps that work against them
U can make the fights a bit more fun if u engage with them

[elfin hollow]

If they ever put her in the archives, Jintsuu META is good in PVP

[stark quiver]

click and forget

[elfin hollow]

real

[undone plover]

The 3 recent additions to meta shop are also great tech
Fusou, junyou, hiyou META

[pale mason]

it just gets so tedious doing the meta fights when they interrupt my opsi grinding that i just don't do them

[stark quiver]

i just copied a sushi comp for the ssr cvs

[full musk]

Ah ok, I currently have Nelson retrofitted so should I swap one of them for her

[undone plover]

I usually save the orange coords and spend it all once a week

For the blue one just try and get to 25k in the 3 months it runs
U dont need to do them everyday
And it shouldnt interrupt your opsi

[atomic abyss]

no, drop hiei meta entirely then

[elfin hollow]

Should I swap pr research focus to 6 once I finish getting the PR7 pr ships to 30? I think knocking out the fate sims before pivoting back to PR7 focus to finish Napoli and Nakhimov might be quicker, but that's probably cope

[pale mason]

it used to before i changed the setting to not stop autoplay when i hit 200 coordinates
but yeah

[undone plover]

U can also just try and help your server and ignore your own runs
Just make sure u get 25k for all the crystals/dupes

[undone plover]

Yeah that setting is pretty annoying

[elfin hollow]

orange essence

League player spotted

[undone plover]

~~once upon a time ~~

[stark quiver]

speakinf of that, its been a month since i used the dossier things

[elfin hollow]

Wonder if they'll make the monthly blueprints from medal shop PR7 ones soon

[undone plover]

Well QEM was added if u are interested in 1 BB ACC

[undone plover]

Iirc that happens in feb

[elfin hollow]

Save up a few blueprints for when they add their fate sims, easy

[stark quiver]

where can i get fusou and ise

[atomic abyss]

vdir archives, w6

[rose cosmos]

Is chapa good?

[stark quiver]

time to farm w6

[atomic abyss]

or ya know, 14-2

[stark quiver]

even better

[undone plover]

I think ise is 15-2

[pale mason]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cl?ship=chapayev

[slow fox]

Have you tried 16-2

[elfin hollow]

Yes, very up there

[atomic abyss]

only with her augment

[reef flume]

"very up there" Just say T0. List is alphabetical

[stark quiver]

dont use ectl to determine actual worth/how good a ship is

[slow fox]

Let's not use tier lists. :mutsukinod:
Except eHP list

[elfin hollow]

Nah, but it's a good measuring stick either way

[rose cosmos]

Dps wise how is she compared to an augment ran laffey

[atomic abyss]

wait sorry, she's not in w14
w6 and WA

[atomic abyss]

much stronger

[elfin hollow]

+0 guns

[rose cosmos]

I’m planning this

[atomic abyss]

laff is garbage by comparison

do level her red skill tho

[sweet delta]

She would be quite bad if those are the guns you have

[reef flume]

Use Seattle gun on her (or Plymouth gun if you have it)

[stark quiver]

would you guys recommend farming w6 or w15 for ise

[rose cosmos]

I don’t have better

[elfin hollow]

6 for speed sake

[atomic abyss]

farm vdir and save your oil
you get fusou from vdir too

[elfin hollow]

15 for xp/gold

[stark quiver]

vdir?

[pale mason]

war archive

[atomic abyss]

wait

[eternal fiber]

visitors dyed in red perhaps?

[elfin hollow]

Correct

[atomic abyss]

fuck ise isnt in vdir map

[elfin hollow]

She's not in w6 either according to the wiki or I'm blind

[atomic abyss]

yama and fusou are

ise isnt

[elfin hollow]

Time to spam requisition my friend, spin the wheel (don't do that)

[eternal fiber]

It says Ise is avalible in requestion using medals

[atomic abyss]

requisition time baby

[pale mason]

wait that's her only source? that's pretty f'd

[reef flume]

Only s uses requisition

[atomic abyss]

heavy build and requisition and 15-2

being a boomer helps

[elfin hollow]

I did that to get my 4th Enterprise so I could have one for every skin I own

[atomic abyss]

those were the days

when we had other ships in medal shop

besides the SR

🍿

[elfin hollow]

Wonder if they'll add another UR to the UR gacha shop once they rerun Musashi. Who'd be next? UVH right?

[reef flume]

Ye

[elfin hollow]

I'll continue slowly gathering Shinanos

[ivory linden]

Yup she is next in line

[eternal fiber]

And I think Yorktown II's rerun is after Musashi's if I saw the dates right

[grizzled sundial]

As new player , is there any reason to hog special general BP and not convert it into any currently developing DR ship ?

[eternal fiber]

I'd personally say yes, save them and then use them on the ship you want to get

[elfin hollow]

correct, then Implacable, Bis2, Unzen, etc

[elfin hollow]

Good for the UVH fans, I'll keep gathering foxes

[reef flume]

Whaaaaat

[pale mason]

depends on what DR ship you are currently developing
some of them are able to be coined so not recommended to use on those
also not recommended to use on PR4 ships since you should be researching that nonstop and get them naturally

[eternal fiber]

Once we reach Bis 2 again, I should have all of the UR's given that I manage to get all 4 on their reruns

[elfin hollow]

Yooo twinning! I started during the NJ rerun last year

[ivory linden]

I mean I was 27 away from d30 ply and I used some blanks but it's generally better to save them

[grizzled sundial]

Agir , cus damn game refuse to drop her research , i keep getting haku

[elfin hollow]

Haku is good, though

Very good, even

[pale mason]

probably don't use on her, you'll be doing pr4 research for a long time
you wanna get like ALL of the pr4 ships anyways

[eternal fiber]

I came back after a 4 year break just after Reflections of the Oasis ended

[elfin hollow]

Also worth noting the PR4 DR's are next in line to become buyable

[keen sable]

i don't see ise in vdir. give me a few to get accurate drop date

[atomic abyss]

she isnt ye

ise is build, i misremembered

[elfin hollow]

She only drops from 15-2, also buildable in heavy and available from requisition pulls

[eternal fiber]

Anyway, since this is the help channel, I shall ask for help.

Would anyone be willing to hop into a call with me and look through the ships and gear I have? I only have one proper fleet built, yet I feel like I can have more if I'm given proper guidance

[keen sable]

ok DB and UU have her. DB HT6 obviously being a better choice. Probably are more places in WA but that should be good enough for you. wiki updated.

[polar venture]

Is it worth getting Hiei meta crystals? Idk if she's good

[ivory linden]

Don't know if she's good but fyi it will be cheaper to get her crystals from the event shop

[hollow gust]

Make a thread and post your dock

[eternal fiber]

Alright

[indigo olive]

Help how do I get more Cristal fragments for my meta shop! Plz!

[ivory linden]

Opsi shop and weeklies atm

[keen sable]

farm more hiei's

[torn locust]

is there a solid guide for amagi cv?

[indigo olive]

Opsi?

[eager mulch]

Guide for what

[torn locust]

just overall gear, maybe also what comp shes good with

finally got her after pity 😭

[eager mulch]

Is she mlb

[torn locust]

nopeeeeeeeeee

[eager mulch]

Guide says not to use her then

[stark quiver]

rice made an opsi guide right?
does someome have the image

[torn locust]

but like in a perfect world where she is

[eager mulch]

same context dependent gearing as other cvs

[ivory linden]

Operation Siren

[stark quiver]

pls send

[indigo olive]

Ohhhhhh🤦‍♂️ thank u, do I get them from just battling in that?

[eager mulch]

-opsiguide

guys we’re not in ectl

[stark quiver]

time to scroll

[keen sable]

you need exchange vouchers

[indigo olive]

😭thank u guys 🙏

[eager mulch]

-opsiguide

[keen sable]

seriously though, farm more hieis

[eager mulch]

it worked this time

[remote yarrow]

It worked

You are a magician

[eager mulch]

now let me play wows in peace

[eternal fiber]

Fleet Building Help

[polar venture]

You know if the meta version is worth?

[grizzled sundial]

Is Amagi CV is like vanguard but for torp plane ?

[stark quiver]

what

[grizzled sundial]

She work mostly as buffer ?

[stark quiver]

no

she herself has crazy damage

[plucky lily]

I lost my account, how do I restore my lost account?

[grizzled sundial]

Should have registered you acc with email...

[stark quiver]

did you try to reinstall the game and see if it saved locally?
else, did you bind it to any form of email or accounts

[kindred kite]

for war archives which ones should i do first?

[eager mulch]

there is no order

[keen sable]

not particularly? she's good. maybe even very good but who needs that? new players only. and the tech is bad. btw that comment is directly at the person who wanted more generic meta crystals.

what does a meta dupe convert into?

[remote yarrow]

#tech-support

[viscid swift]

SR META dupes convert to 10 META fragments

[kindred kite]

should i buy any of the metas from shop?

[south ridge]

Which to put on mob fleet and which others on boss?

Guam
Unzen
Laffey II
Shimakase
Agir
Hindenburg

[eager mulch]

for what

[south ridge]

world 14-3

the one with lots of submarines

[kindred kite]

should i buy any of these ships?

[eager mulch]

theyd be pretty useless if you did

[kindred kite]

what should i use the crystal fragments on?

[eager mulch]

you only got enough for one mlb ship, and all the meta purples are bad outside of tech

[kindred kite]

so what should i use my crystal fragments on?

[eager mulch]

a ship i guess

[kindred kite]

which one?

[eager mulch]

idk what you need

[kindred kite]

im a complete new player, only been playing a week

[eager mulch]

dont spend is also an option

[kindred kite]

working on retrofitting helena and saratoga. getting hood soon

so dont buy any ship?

[eager mulch]

.

[kindred kite]

so no?

[eager mulch]

thats for you to decide

[kindred kite]

would it be a mistake to buy any of the ships

or does it not matter

[undone plover]

u can get all 3 and raise them for tech
meta ships arent capped by LB levels so u can get a 0LB meta ship to level 120 and get their tech

or u can save the meta currency for future additions if u dont care about tech

[kindred kite]

does the shop only sell elite metas?

tech is for pr?

[grizzled sundial]

Seems those meta were from seasonal cruise

[strong tartan]

Tech is additional stats given by ships once you obtain, max limit break, and get them to level 120

[boreal wagon]

(max limit break doesnt give stats)

[kindred kite]

is tech stats spread out to all ships?

[strong tartan]

Only to the hull type they belong to

[undone plover]

and only to MLB/dev30 ships

[strong tartan]

And yeah max limit break only gives tech points not stats

[undone plover]

so ship at level 120 will give fleet tech
ship needs to be MLB to receive the bonus fleet tech
it is a slow process but adds up over time

faction tech is a different thing than fleet tech

[kindred kite]

thanks for the helpful information, so buying the 3 ships and lvling to 120 would be good

[undone plover]

eventually sure

depends on your priority. if u are doing other stuff atm u might not be able to raise them yet.

[boreal wagon]

well other than reducing your meta currency amount its not like it is particularly bad to buy them "early"

given that meta ships dont take dock space anymore

[kindred kite]

im just a week or two into the game

im just trying to make good decisions

[boreal wagon]

yeah u can either buy them or hold off until you are futher ingrained into the game either works really

if you are unsure you can just hold off for now, since they wont go away anyway

[kindred kite]

with azur lane seems like there is so much to learn

makes sense though with a 7 year old game but geez

[undone plover]

if u are very new dw about it yet
get to chapter 12
work on shipyard and research
start working on opsi
those should be your priorities so u can ignore this shop for now

[kindred kite]

@undone plover thanks a ton, very helpful

[keen sable]

You can't afford to be leveling pure shit to 120 for tech. You need good ships @ 120.

[kindred kite]

i just wont buy anything!

[undone plover]

they wont expire in that shop anyway so yeah save for now
can get them later

[versed forum]

is the event going to end today or in 9 of October?

[undone plover]

tomorrow is last day

[lone knoll]

fianlly I have fdg unlocked.. now should I aim to unlock agir or anchorage?

[stark quiver]

Yes start pr4

[lone knoll]

but right now start developing agir or anchorage?

[stark quiver]

Anchorage so u can coin get while getting agir

[lone knoll]

okay i will do anchorage then

[lone knoll]

tyty

[shadow rampart]

just started playing a month ago and i've used so many cubes on event ships, i just need Amagi (CV) is this a bad idea? lol

[grizzled sundial]

Did you get her ?

[shadow rampart]

Nah, i got two Watarases tho

[soft raft]

Gacha URs always worth going for

[grizzled sundial]

Oops , lady luck not favor this time unfortunately , now refrain from spending cubes too much , like only build 1 ship per day , aim for having stockpile at least 400 cubes for the next ultra rare ship which people speculated is Musashi...

[soft raft]

*Next UR rerun is Musashi

We have no clue on who the next new UR is gonna be (except that it's most likely gonna be in December)

And we have no concrete idea when Musashi rerun will happen as there are two SR events in line to rerun first and a collab event

[grizzled sundial]

Just save up and don't be tempted by To-love ru collab...

[shadow rampart]

Yeah i dropped damn near 100 cubes on this event i'll just let this one go

[azure coyote]

How do I get more prototype core's?

[soft raft]

you mainly get them from converting combat data packs and excess BPs for research ships that are at least D30

[hollow gust]

That's nothing , Amagi is worth spending everything on her , you can save up slowley

[shadow rampart]

I need that fox waifu!!

[azure coyote]

Uhhhh ok il look into it

[undone plover]

U have one more day left. I would still roll for her tomorrow.
I hope u get her but she will rerun eventually if u dont

[grizzled sundial]

Today is the last day mind you.

[soft raft]

no it isnt

we have like 30 more hours until it leaves

[hollow hollow]

are tigercats worth the upgrade

[eager mulch]

worth what

[hollow hollow]

i just have a lot of excess t3 plane bp stuff, i can make a few out of hellcats and im wondering if thats a waste of gold elecs

[undone plover]

They are somewhat cheaper than flapjacks since they dont take t2 ordance reports to craft

But overall flapjack more useful

[hollow hollow]

i see more surface damage but less aa than flapjacks

[stark quiver]

the difference isnt super noticeable

[undone plover]

It is not even more surface dmg they have the same ordnance
Just tigercat is slightly faster cd

[eager mulch]

tigercats and flapjacks have the same surface damage

where are you seeing that

[undone plover]

Prolly the wiki dps column

[stark quiver]

that being said, flapjacks are the go to's for say w15
but tigercats will do just fine

[undone plover]

If u have electronics to spare u can do w.e u want
But u shouldnt have electronics to spare

[hollow hollow]

dont have the ord for more flaps

[undone plover]

I would just wait tbh

Use hellcat for now it is fine

[hollow hollow]

ive got my 6 fw for 15 sup fleet

flaps on the main fleet

[undone plover]

I mean if u want it immediately for sth u can spare resources to craft 1 ig

[stark quiver]

btw, what should i make with t3 ords

[undone plover]

Spearfish for fun or wait and save for gear lab update

[stark quiver]

no drek gun?

[undone plover]

Get 1 from protocore shop
U shouldnt need more than 1 really

[stark quiver]

im at like 903 protocore, could convert ply bps (40 of them) but seems like a bad idea

[undone plover]

Plygun always good

[stark quiver]

plymouth bps as in ship bps to get the protocore

[undone plover]

But save till u have enough for one
No need to buy BP if u cant craft it yet

[stark quiver]

This is the shop

[undone plover]

Aha……
Not really needed tbh
Imo save enough for fs5

Do you have any other catchup left?

[stark quiver]

lets see

entire pr1 and 3
js finished gas catchup for her bps
and i have like no lower pr ships tho
so cant convert if i have them

[undone plover]

There you go
That is 3k protocore
Drake also?

Imo convert all of pr1-3 and azuma and drake

[stark quiver]

oh wait nvm im almost done with all of them, so only drake left

cant convert bps if ship isnt d30 yet

im guessing im waiting for cruise pass to analyze cdps

[undone plover]

Well there is ply gun to get
Drake gun
And January 2nd hinden gun
January has 7500 protocore in pr6 catchup as well if u have pr6 finished

[stark quiver]

i guess im cooked, i dont think i finished any seasons yet, closest is probably pr5/7

[undone plover]

U dont need third georgia gun unless u wanna join the gerogia gun cult
between 2nd hinden gun and drake gun I am not sure tbh
Probably similar value

[undone plover]

What are you focusing right now?

[stark quiver]

pr7

[undone plover]

Well that is good

[stark quiver]

like 23 bps for la9 rn,
once i finish pr7, im going back to pr5/6 to farm guns

[undone plover]

U can finish pr5 with coining once it gets it
And then once u finish 7 decide if u wanna go back for 6 or stay in 7 for more la9 prints

[uneven badger]

who to bulin

[sharp socket]

does sirius have good gun damage when put in cv fleet because of her skills

[undone plover]

I would farm more la9 planes tbh
Get at least 2-3

[stark quiver]

probably vanguard

[undone plover]

Not really
She is just there for her buff

[uneven badger]

fr?

[eager mulch]

fr

[sharp socket]

so despite having +41% fp +21% rld from combined skills her damage is still unremarkable

[undone plover]

No one yet

[forest palm]

and she doesn't even have to live to accomplish this

[uneven badger]

yes

[undone plover]

Save enough for MLB then decide

Dont partially LB anyone

[stark quiver]

im hella behind in pr7 since i stopped mid season and did pr6 to finish gun

[uneven badger]

ok

[undone plover]

What is done is done
Pr7 is overall better
Do u have plymouth dev30?

[stark quiver]

yea

[undone plover]

Then no reason to go back to pr5 really

Maybe eventually to get 8 prints for 2nd ply gun

[stark quiver]

i can send my bps for rainbow weapons if that makes a difference, a lot of bits and pieces

[sharp socket]

oh nevermind she only has 1 mgm i see why her damage is low

[undone plover]

Stay in 7

U have 42 prints in protocore shop for 2nd ply gun already

Ignore all the other “bits and pieces”

[eager mulch]

craft that blue aa gun

[stark quiver]

bet

[undone plover]

How is your pr6?

[stark quiver]

fs5 shimanto and then

d20 the drs
forgot who the other ones were

[undone plover]

Well u can go back to kear/hinden after you finish pr7 or just finish them with event BP and catchup when they get it

Kinda annoying to go back to 6 when u already have the hinden gun

[stark quiver]

yea realy kicking myself for the messed up progression

[undone plover]

Meh you live and learn

I assume u are focusing the ships since u have 23 prints only for the la9?

[stark quiver]

yea
taking face prints > gds > rigging

[undone plover]

[stark quiver]

23 from finishing halford

[lone knoll]

should I get champ guns from shop or 2 are good?

[undone plover]

Do you have soyuz/flan guns?

[humble perch]

how high is laffey 2 damage comparatively to other destroyers?

[lone knoll]

no

but i saw on the guide that champ and tenrai>

[undone plover]

Then u want 3 champ guns
Get from protoshop if u are new

[lone knoll]

I have one +13 champ already and one +0.. can i get tenrai?

[lone knoll]

okok 3 champs then

[undone plover]

I dont recall exactly tbh but I think it was behind the ddg but still decent
Maybe on par vs heavy armor?
Someone chime in if u know

[humble perch]

Thanks ❤️

[vital phoenix]

Which deals more dmg against light armor? Bf109 or skyraider?

[undone plover]

Skyraider

[stone sluice]

What’s the flan gun?

[undone plover]

French pr6 gun 380mm 1935 mle
Slightly faster champy side grade

[stone sluice]

Ah the mle 1935 prototype

If I have 1 of those, the Soyuz gun and 1 champy gun. I’m fine with that or should I craft more champy guns?

[vital phoenix]

What about su-2 vs bf109?

[stark quiver]

109

[sharp socket]

su2 is parallel iirc

[undone plover]

Depends on your BB setup
U should be fine overall

[vital phoenix]

Dive bomber

[sharp socket]

wait so you were comparing a dive bomber to a fighter?

[strong tartan]

youre confusing the su2 with the vit2

[undone plover]

Sometimes it is easier to sync 3 champy together

[stark quiver]

who does more damage is 109g

[vital phoenix]

My question is who deals more dmg against light so... Yea?

[sharp socket]

su2 is the white one with 6x100lb NP

[undone plover]

Comparing db vs fighter is fine for carriers that have flex slots

[sharp socket]

ah its bombs so bf109 better cause rockets

[lone knoll]

where do you level low lvl ships like level 30 -> 70?

[vital phoenix]

If bf109 deals more dmg even against skyraider then I'd assume it deals far more dmg than su-2 too. But skyraider is better a according to vets so I had to make sure

[undone plover]

Dorm and xp books

[sharp socket]

xpbook them to 70

[undone plover]

Skyraider has rockets so they all land (with proper setup)
Su-2 has good dps on paper but probably half of the bombs will miss the target

[sharp socket]

then dorm them instead

[fluid brook]

Which plane is Su-9?

[undone plover]

Check this page it has some info on bomb physical hit rates

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BombSpread

[lone knoll]

I have a question regarding planes.. when a ship like amagi has a dual slot for torp/dive bombers, in wich situation is torps>dive and vice versa?

[undone plover]

I meant the su-2

La-9 grind gave me brainrot

[eager mulch]

id take a torp bomber over a dive bomber any day of the week unless said dive bomber is skyraider

[lone knoll]

so gold barracuda > sb2c on amagi

[fluid brook]

Overall or just for bossing?

[eager mulch]

overall

[stark quiver]

how much hvars would i need for the most meta comp

[fluid brook]

4 iirc

[stark quiver]

and about 60k~ pts of grinding w/ decent luck?

[lone knoll]

so this is better instead of sb2c

[undone plover]

Event gives 1 for free
U can farm 2-3 more easily if u prep your oil
Also they keep the bug

[fluid brook]

Well i took me around 70k iirc for 3 (including the free one)

[finite crag]

didnt it only give 20 hvar prints

[stark quiver]

prep as in around 40k?

[sharp socket]

what event is the hvar event?

[undone plover]

10 milestone
15 shop

[fluid brook]

Yorkii

[undone plover]

Parallel superimposition

[sharp socket]

is it due to come before or after musashi rerun

[viscid swift]

it was the event after Musashi

[undone plover]

As in save mail
Week before event try and hit hardcap
Save weekly pack and weekly missions for the event

[sharp socket]

alr ty

[stark quiver]

i got like 40k mail saved rn

[viscid swift]

the issue isn't likely gonna be oil anyway but rather time

[undone plover]

HELP tickets and rotating fleets
Shouldnt be that hard tbh

Can spend 4-6k oil per hour

[lone knoll]

san diego high prio or nah?

[sharp socket]

if i only grind 2x12 sortie a day on that event how many hvar should i be able to get

[viscid swift]

oh trust me, you'll get sick of it the longer you go on
the loss in XP and coins starts to feel really noticable when you get to 100k ish

[undone plover]

Worth it for HVARs

[viscid swift]

also, SMH for people forgetting about the skyraider

[undone plover]

Imagine having 2

[sweet delta]

No

[lone knoll]

so back to sb2c instead of 2 barracudas?

[sharp socket]

when you start doing w13 good to have

[sweet delta]

Idk what you're trying to do with her but sb2c is likely better than barracuda

[fluid brook]

Its worth for Endgame content like W13HD or W15, although with retrofit

[lone knoll]

well i just wanted to know what was generally better, dive or torp mombers

[undone plover]

It is difficult to say tbh
Original event had a bugged drop rate
So it will depend if u the bug is kept or not
And iirc no one has any proper estimates for gear drop rate anyway

[ancient ridge]

Who are good character to get here?

[sweet delta]

No answer

[lone knoll]

I was thinking of building either san diego or eldridge, im doing w13 next (im chilling on w12-4

[stark quiver]

would something like 40-60k oil be enough? probably most i can save

[sweet delta]

Pick someone with good tech for later like Mikasa, but none of the new ones are good for actual use

[viscid swift]

honestley, if you're gonna look into hard farming HVARs anyway you should be looking to "low cost" farm D3 anyway

[ancient ridge]

Okay tyty!

[stark quiver]

wouldnt low cost be slower?

[sweet delta]

Wouldn't you run out of oil if you do full cost?

[eager mulch]

can’t run out of oil if you don’t have oil

[ancient ridge]

Besides Mikasa are any of the others with "New" on them from sakura empire?

[fluid brook]

Build first Sandy, althou personally i will go with Guam/Laffeii/Shimanto because they are more tanky, if you do have a hard time with AA, use Sandy kai, Eldridge kai is a good support + some AWS

[undone plover]

If u save 40k in mail there is another 40k from dailies and weekly missions/packs
u can also try and store 20k before the event
So that is 100k
Maybe it will be enough for your goal

[viscid swift]

not enough once you account for having to wait for morale to regen and lag from afk farming

[lone knoll]

dont have guam or shimanto, have laffey at 120 retro already, I think I will go for sandy then, i dont good AA ships. thanks

[undone plover]

Iirc it took me around 25k oil to farm 15 sea hornet BPs
Take it with a huge grain of salt tho since I only farmed 15 prints and it is a different event and the gear only needs 15 prints

[stark quiver]

4-5 hvars in like 1 week

and eh, maybe ill buy the last 2 dorm slots
it has been established that i will probably not sleep on the weekend

[sweet delta]

Amagi gives more tech points while Mikasa gives better level 120 tech

[undone plover]

They mean laffey 2

[fluid brook]

Laffey no, LaffeII (or UR Laffey)

[lone knoll]

dont have it aswell my acc is 1 month and a half old

[strange sphinx]

[fluid brook]

You got CVAmagi?

[lone knoll]

ye

[undone plover]

Honestly I would retro eldridge first
Forget about sandy for now
That is if u dont have any other priorities atm

[strange sphinx]

just send the dock

[lone knoll]

can i make a thread? alst one I did was 1 montha go

[undone plover]

Sandy is decent with her augment alone and can be used in ch13 if u want

[strange sphinx]

eldrige is quite hard to get

[lone knoll]

I have the ingridient tho

[undone plover]

I assume he has her since he is talking about retro

[lone knoll]

yeah i have the retro item

but 7 bulins will be hard to use up

[undone plover]

Then probably dont do it yet

[lone knoll]

ok ill send the ships then

[undone plover]

Are u in a rush to push ch13 for a reason?
Most ppl stay in 12 for a few weeks/months/forever

[lone knoll]

ships

[lone knoll]

idk I just want some direction on who to build/aavoid

[stark quiver]

i stayed in w12 for like 2-3 years

[strange sphinx]

me who stayed in W 7

[wheat summit]

if i oath bismarck UR do i still get the oath skin or has to oath the og one?

[grizzled sundial]

If i understand correctly , W12 is the most efficient in term of oil to coin / oil to XP ?

[eager mulch]

no and no

[grizzled sundial]

So i have to push further ?

[sweet delta]

No

[eager mulch]

13-4 and maybe 14-4 are more oil-coin efficient and 11-1 is the most oil-xp efficient but most people farm 12-1 or 12-4 anyways

[sweet delta]

Chapter 12 is good balance to farm but it's not the best at any one specific thing

[keen owl]

Aside from oil. Is there any reason not to use this?

[stark quiver]

if u dont wanna spend oil

[blazing shale]

The elites say a couple hours of oil aren't worth it but that's about it

[keen owl]

Thanks

[storm heron]

more like if you wanna suffer

I'd spend 5000 oils if that means I can leave my emulator for 10 hours clearing most of the explorables at once with the 45 ap boxes they give

[viscid swift]

that's a complete exageration, I swear most people don't know the "Recon Request" function exists which does the same thing as the logger for some AP

it's just a few extra clicks, nothing exactly strenuous

[crisp wadi]

How much coin I need daily if let's say I do research that drop gear BP and ship BP ?

[eager mulch]

which one

[viscid swift]

as much as you can get really

[storm heron]

Nah, I can't do it for 72 explorables

[storm heron]

ship BP in particular is about 1000/hour, so it's around 12k per day if you're taking 50 50 focus

[crisp wadi]

I think it's called cognition ? And yeah rigging analysis too. Did you guys focus one only ? Coz usually do both ship and gear

[viscid swift]

I will prioritize face researches or Qs depending on what I'm prioritizing

[storm heron]

different people do different things, but I personally focus on rigging unless there's the 1 hour cube

[undone plover]

As a beginner prioritize D and G imo
U want to finish a season and get 1 copy of gear and move on to next

[sweet delta]

Not if the season is 4 which seems like what people recommend

Without gear focus youll just end up with 2/5 of a tenrai

[undone plover]

Yeah coining does make it a bit more nuanced

Well D and Q then

Keep an eye on the tenrai prints and monitor your pace I suppose

[crisp wadi]

Yeah , I think I focused only on D too much. That's why I'm finished all pr4 ships but only 2 tenrais

[undone plover]

That is what u want to happen ideally

By the time u finish the ships u want 1 copy from research and 1 from protocore then u move on

[graceful kelp]

hi guys is retrofiting unicorn a good idea?

[stark quiver]

it is a great idea

[graceful kelp]

cause i just came back after years of not playing

[grizzled sundial]

Her retrofit is too good.

[graceful kelp]

i see

what are your recommendations for a lvl 40+ player to grind coins

[grizzled sundial]

Keep playing , grind level and only spend coin on what you currently need :/

[stark quiver]

push to w9 with fleet
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
from this guide

[graceful kelp]

wait what portland wow

i not sure which is the meta ships now, i seen some tier list some say most of my ships are outdated/ not good

[grizzled sundial]

Imo....meta ship not matter till you start tackle W12 and beyond...

[graceful kelp]

can i show u my formation to see if its fine?

my 2 main fleets, is it ok?

[stark quiver]

no

[graceful kelp]

oof

[undone plover]

how many gold bulins do u have?

[graceful kelp]

around 2-3

but my coins is the main issue

[undone plover]

show whole dock let us have a look we need some replacements

[grizzled sundial]

I say he can use those on sandiego

[graceful kelp]

got it

[stark quiver]

thats a bad idea

using it on enty would be a much better investment

[grizzled sundial]

Sooner or later he gonna need to invest on AA .

[undone plover]

prio for now is getting to chapter 12
no need to worry about aa yet

and sandy is really expensive for now

[grizzled sundial]

Darn he got perseus

[graceful kelp]

done

[graceful kelp]

its good now?

[grizzled sundial]

Another type of healer

[weary gust]

Perseus isn't bad but Unicorn is just better in every way.

[graceful kelp]

sorry for my lack of knowledge its been so long

[undone plover]

Hood, uni, enterprise, belfast, portland, laffey

[graceful kelp]

in 1 fleet?

[stark quiver]

enty enterprise?

[undone plover]

It is late