gameplay-help

[sweet delta]

maxed helena or wichita can solo them in time for BB 3rd salvo

maxed wichita might do too much dmg idk bring bisz

[storm heron]

what about lvl 100 melena?

or mrinceton?

[stark quiver]

no

=/>120 or explode

[eager mulch]

what about mestal

[storm heron]

meta can deal non-1 damage to phantom right, that's why we use meta

can mestal shoot salvos?

[viscid swift]

She can do surface damage

But it's rather pitiful

[keen sable]

why do you want to use utter crap against QEM?

[steady fable]

Do not use a repair ship to fight basically, it was not meant fir that

[agile nacelle]

is enterprise better or illustrious better for a new player

[viscid swift]

Enterprise

[hollow gust]

by far

[agile nacelle]

ok ty

[frosty dune]

besides time remaining, what other factors affect ex stage score?

[viscid swift]

fleet power

[fervent hearth]

Who here will teach me how to fleet power grind

[stoic ermine]

doesn't manjuu just announce what will be in each update a week in advance anyway 💀

[forest palm]

AL has had some genuine leaks, but you can count them on one hand afaik

[stark quiver]

have 4 copies of each ship in game, at all stages of lb

[fervent hearth]

[forest palm]

Fleet Power is shit

[fervent hearth]

[frosty dune]

it is just bragging rights on the leaderboard

[fervent hearth]

Oh I see I rather keep my sanity then

[late flame]

i mean, there are folks who do this
https://fxtwitter.com/cleveland1024/status/1700647913796649464?t=nedf52GIkucgkSmjCHP3nA

[stark quiver]

funny numbers make me happy

[forest palm]

the Power System in AL is a useless metric that has little to no meaning whatsoever

[fervent hearth]

Mentally insane

But in a good way

[frosty dune]

i beginning to think this player likes cleveland

[viscid swift]

kind of, the JP patch notes do give some preview usually and streams pretty much always reveal in advance obviously

[stark quiver]

and your money, youre looking at around 2100 dock space +

[viscid swift]

as for genuine leaks, there was one CN anni where a few things were leaked in advance of the stream but that was only by a few hours along with the recent stuff about Noshiro in the 3D dorm and some stuff related to rogue node

[late flame]

dang and i tot devs gave up on roguelite

[viscid swift]

there's also cruise pass META stats I guess but again, that's just a few days ahead of when we find them out anyway

[soft raft]

and that's just part of the datamine anyways

[viscid swift]

I think NJ and Boise may have also been leaked a few days before their reveals but I don't recall if that was an actual leak or a teaser

[fervent hearth]

[viscid swift]

in short though, the devs are very good at keeping their cards close to their hands, we don't find out about stuff until they want us to

[eager mulch]

rouge mode will be great guys trust

[forest palm]

like I said the amount of genuine leaks can be counted on 1 hand

[eager mulch]

[elfin hollow]

Which world can i farm the most coins

[eager mulch]

13-4

[soft raft]

technically higher world = more coin per run but 12-1/12-4 is where the majority of people farm since it gives a good amount of gold without being too difficult

esp in regards to raising tech shitters

[elfin hollow]

Thank you :)

[rapid grail]

14-4 -> 13-4 -> 12-4
people prefer 13-4 because farming in 14-4 is a hassle given how long it fuckin is

[viscid swift]

it's also only marginally better for coins

[storm heron]

~12% better init?

[zenith locust]

Is it a good timing?

[soft raft]

where's your slow support?

[storm heron]

swapping the saiun and the ryuusei there in shinano might result to closer timing with more damage

[coarse heron]

imo farming 13-4 is only if you don’t got Bunker Hill yet

[zenith locust]

I haven't thought about it, Im just trying to sync their airstrike

[soft raft]

why are you trying to sync them anyways? What content are you gonna use them in right now?

[zenith locust]

Boss fleet

[sweet delta]

which boss

[viscid swift]

the thing about syncing is that it's not something you just do, it's always done with purpose, or more usually, you're trying to sync to something, identify what that thing is first, and then sync your ships

and if it's something like campaign syncing is the exact opposite of what you want to do

[elfin hollow]

Boss fleet better have slow.

[soft raft]

but like where?
Campaign? OpSi?

[zenith locust]

Campaign

[soft raft]

yeah dont

[sweet delta]

[soft raft]

syncing means jack shit if a wave of planes you could've intercepted otherwise gets through with basically no opposition

not to mention that campaign boss fights often throw mob fodder at you before the actual boss shows up

[lone knoll]

how do you do this? use an aux that inc airstrike on one ship and one that delays on the other? i forgot about plane timmings nvm

[sweet delta]

that or change the planes

[stark quiver]

faster/slower planes for example depending on the ships

[viscid swift]

well, you start first by adjusting the Torpedo Bombers used, if that doesn't work then resort to timing auxes

[sweet delta]

being sure to keep faster or slower good planes, not faster or slower bad planes

[queen jackal]

fleet suggestions

[vital phoenix]

How long does it usually take to get enough gold plate for +13 upgrade?

[sweet delta]

600+ gold plates per month if you clear opsi stuffs, so 5 +13 per month

[slow fox]

Can I get a source on that senator

[deep solstice]

so i just hit commander lv 60 and unlocked gear lab and opsi. is there a guide i can read for that stuff first before i come back if i have some questions?

[sweet delta]

no, you just follow the opsi campaign

and give up if your fleet is under level 100 and you're losing

[haughty sandal]

What are all the ships with double torpedo preload? The only ones I know are shimkaze ibuki and unzen and was wondering if anyone else has them

[eager mulch]

Harb kinda has one

[lone knoll]

what strategic search settings should I have? explorable or secured?

[eager mulch]

depends on what you want it to do

[lone knoll]

what would u sugest

[soft raft]

is it even worth to set it back to explorable?

[lone knoll]

idk you tell me

[eager mulch]

explorable to clear the map, hiddens to do hiddens, secured last when burning ap

[lone knoll]

oh okay, then I should secured spam then

any area that you suggest or can i do any c5?

[stark quiver]

any c5

[spring bolt]

c3 has better gold plate/ap ratio, any c3 will do
c5 saves you time at the cost of less gold plates

[lone knoll]

so spam any c3 for better efficency

[lone knoll]

is this worth? and the shop aswell

[stark quiver]

dont pause

[lone knoll]

even on merchant'

[stark quiver]

i pause at merchant personally, just to get more ap, because i was a bad player back then
and had like no AP to end seasons

[vale spindle]

Yes if you are missing opsi stars for the zones otherwise no

[lone knoll]

im missing most of the stars

[vale spindle]

make sure its the stars specifically for siren constructs

[spring bolt]

if you check the game regularly, check yes, other wise no

[vale spindle]

cause there are some stars that arent related to siren stuff

[lone knoll]

okok thanks for the input

why wont this autoclick? is this normal

[late flame]

set Reduce TB guidance to 'On'

[lone knoll]

thank you

[coarse heron]

I hate that Reduce still isn't disable all guidance

[late flame]

it'd be fun to do puzzles blind without TB trust

[coarse heron]

uhhh yeah it actually would be

[mystic topaz]

i was told to build a triple cv bossing fleet and a triple bb bossing fleet for opsi, does the composition of the vanguard matter too much? and is there any specifics in terms of gear i should be aiming for?

still pretty new here

[coarse heron]

for CV fleet you want CV boosting vanguard if possible, same with BB vanguard

[keen sable]

more fun than slicing 19000 cakes

[late flame]

YMMV i guess. personally i'd like TB to solve it without me needing to actually search up a youtube solution

[mystic topaz]

"cv boosting"? what should I be looking for, some cv related buff?

[keen sable]

bb buffers in bb. cv buffers in cv.

[coarse heron]

AL puzzles aren't even hard
This ain't Riven or The Witness

[coarse heron]

for CV, ships like Sirius and Kazagumo

[late flame]

its not hard, but some are really annoying

[stark quiver]

they were hard for me

[coarse heron]

I guess not everyone is good at puzzles, that's fair

[stone sluice]

Can you get more gold plates from c3? I guess I’m unlucky cause I get none from c3

[vital phoenix]

What's the better setup for the current harbiter boss considering its mechanics?

[eager mulch]

left with helena sync

or sync with other bbs

[sharp socket]

ideal frontlines
for cv: tank + sirius + kazagumo
for bb: agir, helena, plymouth

[eager mulch]

bro just got ehhsex’ed

[sharp socket]

sirius and kaza buff cv, ply buffs bb

[hollow gust]

Depends on what CVs and Armor type you are fighting

[soft raft]

you dont even know if he has Agir and Ply yet
Much less in a useable state

[sharp socket]

helena syncs well with bb also, agir can be any tank tbh

[eager mulch]

not having agir and ply in 2024 smh

[viscid swift]

in this day and age I don't even know if BB and CV fleets are the right terms anymore

[hollow gust]

Its more like what armor type

[sharp socket]

agir just has armor break debuff to enemies which bb can benefit from and also doubles as a tank

[vital phoenix]

Replace table with other aux right?

[eager mulch]

what no

[hollow gust]

[viscid swift]

yes after all it's looking more
Light: Kearsarge, Yorktown 2, Implacable
Medium: Soyuz, Nahkimov, Zwei?
Heavy: Shinano, Hakuryu, Amagi

[finite crag]

so implac not needed for ijn cv?

[viscid swift]

heavy arbiter doesn't really move

[finite crag]

i was using my haku nano for every armor type i dont change equips

[hollow gust]

honestly Amagi is gonna be the best 3rd ship for nahk, she is just so fking strong

[sharp socket]

mixed comps are the direction now but its not like opsi gets harder

[hollow gust]

Like her speed and versatility is so good for everything

[viscid swift]

yes, I saw

[eager mulch]

but did you see the new Dutch light cruiser line

[hollow gust]

i also tried Shinano and Haku, none of them can really replicate amagi

[viscid swift]

I know it exists now, haven't read the dev blog yet

[rain bobcat]

is it better than zwei/haku is the question

because both of those would definitely deal more medium dmg than amagi

[hollow gust]

BBs are , and Haku def weaker without shinano

[vital phoenix]

Huh wait? It shows 20.75 cd plus the cd reduction from table. Won't the volley be a bit too fast? Or the slow motion from bb firing keeps it in sync?

[hollow gust]

Look how hard Soyuz got clapped

[finite crag]

table isnt displayed in game

[sharp socket]

my bb fleet knocked off 50 bars on current harbiter and ply isnt even in there so they still work yknow

[hollow gust]

[viscid swift]

they still work

but after trying Hakuryu, Shinano, and Amagi and getting the easiest harbiter one shot I've had yeah...

[vital phoenix]

Or travel time of bullet or something

[hollow gust]

UR BBs are UR BB, but they are not competing with CV powerhouses

[viscid swift]

they're a much higher investment but they definitely have a higher ceiling

[sharp socket]

the guy that asked that question said hes kinda new, which id take means he joined in 2024

[hollow gust]

even against the current Heavy Harby, which is a really annoying one, my cvs almost 2 striked.

[eager mulch]

they got dd caliber guns, weak armor, and long range but that’s all I remember

[sharp socket]

if he was asking for best opsi fleet comp it would be a diff answer

[rain bobcat]

heavy arby has been a 2 strike possible CV Kill for atleast a year

[viscid swift]

we're not even really answering the question anymore so much as just a discussion on how "modern" fleets like like compare to the older stuff

[eager mulch]

to me, this just looks like rainbow spam

[hollow gust]

Its about the ease of it, , also most of those two strikes use Helena

[eager mulch]

not enough amagi-chan imo

[viscid swift]

Amagi Chan will have to wait

[eager mulch]

[soft raft]

What's the Arbiter this month again? Heavy?

[viscid swift]

Yep

[soft raft]

Ight

[sweet delta]

At least 1.75 years it seems

[half plover]

between haku nano and agir who is best to bring to 125 first? if the othes stay at 120

[coarse heron]

main fleet are usually best to 125 first as they deal all of your damage

[half plover]

is nano still prefered because of amagi?

[sweet delta]

Shinano amagi is useful more often than haku amagi

[lone knoll]

these can drop in c3???'

[eager mulch]

they can drop in cat nodes which can be found in c3

[lone knoll]

okay, I read somewhere that I need to level cats for better rewards.. Should i even start to focus on cats or can i just keep leveling the couple sr's I got?

[eager mulch]

just get 2 sr cats to lv30 first

[sinful escarp]

is it worth it to do corrosion lvl 3 and 4?

[viscid swift]

yes

[sinful escarp]

ok thanks, imma do them

[lone knoll]

out of these 3 wich one would you buy? I have 1 flpajack already

im leaning twoards dd gun since I have nothing better than a poverty purple

[keen sable]

they don't use the same resources

is this a gear lab pack?

[spring bolt]

according to the community data from CN, it's 11.13 gold plates from c3 per 1k AP, and they are from cat paws searches, the map itself doesn't have gold plate drops
for c5 it's 8.96 per 1k AP

[lone knoll]

no I just screeshoted the priority gear on the gear lab guide

the ones I can actually build right now

[finite crag]

what about c5

[spring bolt]

8.96
source if you are interested: https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/金菜获取汇总计算

[lone knoll]

can i +13 these? yuudachi deals tons of damage and is really carrying me

[turbid shell]

does CB count as CA when a skill mention for CA?

[spring bolt]

yeah that's fine, quad mags are good. there is a upgraded version but it's event limited, not available now and only one of it. so if you are like super long term player, you can save the plates but i personally wouldn't do that

[lone knoll]

okay I will just +13 it then

[spring bolt]

in general, no. but some specific skill might be exception

[paper timber]

Who use PBY Catalina?

[coarse heron]

Nobody

[strange sphinx]

hmmm does Hakuryuu need FS 5 or it is just Additional Stats?

[soft raft]

She's worked perfectly fine at D30 long before FS5

It's basically just more damage

[strange sphinx]

ok, almost Dev 30 still Dev 27

[spring bolt]

but even with fs5, amagi tends to take her places in some comps

[ancient ridge]

Which prototypes would be most useful for my fleets?

[strange sphinx]

give your deck

[ancient ridge]

U mean my dock?

[finite crag]

if you havent already, 3 champagne guns

[strange sphinx]

yes

[ancient ridge]

Whats that? Sorry i dont know much yet

[finite crag]

doesnt matter what his dock is get 3 champagne guns from pr3 prints

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)

[ancient ridge]

Tyty

[ancient ridge]

Spend all onthis?

[finite crag]

yes

should have 3 of those before anything else

[ancient ridge]

Okie tyty

[strange sphinx]

he is spreading his Gold Bulin ls

[ancient ridge]

No no those were mistakes, i just came back from a 5year hiatus to the game so i worked to fix everything, the 2 fleets i showed earlier are my main fleets now

Basically mistakes from the past i wish not to remember xD

[ancient ridge]

Uhmmm... I used all 20 bp to claim this piece but still doesnt show in crafting?

[finite crag]

you need 25

[ancient ridge]

Ohhh thats why, i thought was only 15

[strange sphinx]

looks like he also doesn't have PR ships

[finite crag]

im sure thats relevant to the question at hand, plus hes working on it, you dont come back after years and suddenly gain all the new pr ships

[ancient ridge]

What are PR ships

[finite crag]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[wind hazel]

ships from Shipyard

[finite crag]

couldve sworn this was covered in your thread

[ancient ridge]

Ohh i see i see, sadly i only hace enough faction points for the 1st stage still

Ya but the term PR wasnt used so was confused xD

[coarse heron]

Should I craft a Georgia Gun if I can
like is it really that good for mobbing?

by craft I mean in gear lab

[finite crag]

sure if you have all the more important stuff

if you dont really need it i say just save

[knotty snow]

how do you calculate the dmg if some ships skill override the ammo choice of the gun ???

[stark quiver]

what ships for example

[knotty snow]

lets say balti

[coarse heron]

well, what else would I even be using T3 Ordnance reports on?

[knotty snow]

doesnt her skill turn every 8 inch gun into AP ???

[finite crag]

if youre upcrafting the ord reports then flapjack for example

if you have 6 t3 ord reports then yea sure go ahead

[coarse heron]

oh yeah I guess I could make more of those

[finite crag]

but tenrai might also use ord reports so

if you are not in dire need of it, no reason to make it now

[coarse heron]

yeah Freddie has a +13 NJ gun right now so like, it's not like I badly need something for a mobbing BB

[finite crag]

for 14 15 457 is better

but if its already working then no need to change it

[coarse heron]

okay I'll keep that in mind when I decide to start pushing W14 again

[finite crag]

if you use someone like musa for mobbing you might not ever even need a 457

[stark quiver]

run typical CA guns, no need to specifically choose

[coarse heron]

I already got a lot of Tigercats from when I used to play though so I probably don't need many Flapjaks

since it'd be more about changing timing

[finite crag]

more of flapjacks have more aa so better for 15

but other than that yea nothing different from cats and hornets

[coarse heron]

still never bothered making more Hornets besides the 1 I got from Aurora Noctis event 4 years ago

[stark quiver]

you wouldnt rly need them usually

[finite crag]

Noone makes hornets theyre expensive

[coarse heron]

42 electronics
GUH

[finite crag]

Theyre something you use if you have but you wont go out of your way to craft

[knotty snow]

how did you get so many tigercats ???

[coarse heron]

cause the original Gear Lab had basically 2 planes worth crafting

and the Tigercat was one of them

[knotty snow]

but how did you get so many of those rare resources then ???

especially that refined metal thing or smth

[coarse heron]

uhhhh just spam OpSi it's easy

grind that shit like if you don't do it your whole family dies

[knotty snow]

I am having trouble against those Siren occupied zones

[coarse heron]

Note which one I'm still missing a lot of despite having nearly a thousand of the others

[wet badge]

Dang how long did that take you

[strange sphinx]

that military grade

[coarse heron]

idk when OpSi first came out until I quit (right after Richie's re-run) I did OpSi grinding a ton

I was on that Beijing grindset, eat sleep scream repeat

[coarse heron]

yeah probably cause I have 6 Tigercats and 3 Wyverns

[vale spindle]

whats your tuning at, cause the higher your tuning (up to 203 / 203 / 156) the easier the boss gets

[finite crag]

you could realistically run dry after 2-3 pieces of gear with this still

[coarse heron]

yeah the amount of mats needed is obscene

[wind hazel]

just keep grinding, eventually you'll have more than you need

[coarse heron]

the real reason to have children is to teach them how to grind in gachas for you

[fervent hearth]

What’s the command for the cat reroll guide again?

[stark quiver]

/cats

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE

What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.

How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!

How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.

What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).

What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.

Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.

[fervent hearth]

[stark quiver]

big text wall but yeh

[finite crag]

would amagi with saiun vit or junker ryuusei be more dmg

[idle perch]

i need help for helena cm

[stark quiver]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rgPzJCNlILOdhHXxvqCEXbTLvned36nwsRAEl_269mQ/edit#heading=h.luo5ed8h5oht

or pull out the 🕹️

[forest palm]

Wouldn't matter which is stronger, it's relatively to your fleet composition what planes you use

[finite crag]

both works, the former saves me from having to +13 another ryuusei

[knotty snow]

for me its the ultra high material and the weapon papers

[forest palm]

Then you have your answer

[knotty snow]

how did you manage to tune that high ???

[finite crag]

what if the ryuusei was +13 though is it a sizeable difference, everything else also +13

[sleek pulsar]

Is watarase good for early game?

[coarse heron]

literally just keep playing OpSi

[forest palm]

The difference is marginal at best

[finite crag]

then i get to save 120 plates

ty

[spring bolt]

ju+ryuusei should lead by about 3.2%

[idle perch]

👍

[finite crag]

you know what 120 plates couldnt hurt

thanks

[coarse heron]

This is my tuning after clearing OpSi for the month btw

[fickle parcel]

Including the purchased upgrades?

[coarse heron]

I didn't purchase any

cause I remember they're a waste of money

would have had over 300 if I did

[fickle parcel]

Weird. Mine is like 170 and below after my full clear. Including every purchased hidden area and free one.

[finite crag]

farm zones

[fickle parcel]

Oh I see.

[finite crag]

c5 c1 c3 whatever

[fickle parcel]

I usually wait till the very last day to farm zones so I have enough energy left for the last set of dailies.

[coarse heron]

reminds me, I need to burn off the rest of my AP

[spring bolt]

Sep 30th is Monday so save 200

[fickle parcel]

tyty for heads up.

[coarse heron]

AP reset to 200 when OpSi resets

[fickle parcel]

Sept 30 won't be OpSi reset.

[sweet delta]

Strongholds lost when OpSi resets

[coarse heron]

oh yeah there'll be a stronghold on Monday

well that's annoying

[fickle parcel]

Just save 200.

[coarse heron]

Well it's 33h20m to passively generate 200 AP, so as long as I leave at least that much time I'll be fine

[lyric hornet]

Does anyone have a way to fully automate clearing Operation Siren, after each stage i get a message which doesn’t get skipped and stops everything until i click it

[south sequoia]

Have you selected reduce tb guidance from options yet?

[lyric hornet]

Yea its off

[south sequoia]

What about automatically using items?

[stark quiver]

sometimes it makes u

[sweet delta]

turn it on

[lyric hornet]

Smooth brain moment, though having it on reduces TB but i didn’t read the option correctly

Will test it to see if the message stops

Its gone, amazing that i couldnt read the option correctly but thank for all the suggestions and help

[undone heath]

with such a CD will they be able to get into Helena's scan?

[stark quiver]

u could remove the beacon and probably still get it

[idle perch]

why is helena cm so hard???

[sweet delta]

because it's endgame content

[undone heath]

without beacons third launch does not hit

[idle perch]

im just throwing normal UR with UR equipment and its not enough

[late flame]

+totally optional and doesnt give any meaningful reward

[idle perch]

yeah idw to wait another year to attempt it again

[stark quiver]

you need timing

[idle perch]

btw been playing this since global release

[stark quiver]

actively?

[idle perch]

yes, got all ships except 2 collab ships that doesnt come back

[stark quiver]

with tech grinding n whatnot? cuz start time doesnt rly matter

[late flame]

imagine reading boss mechanics

[idle perch]

yes, max tech as well

[stark quiver]

nice, well copying that fleet shoulnt be too hard, granted you have what you need including rld tech and oaths of said ships

[idle perch]

must it be oathed?

[stark quiver]

no, you can make up for it with cats + rld tech

[deep solstice]

shoudl i not bother with opsi if i don't have two fleets built? or should i look to build the second one

[finite crag]

you should just try, getting any amount done is better than nothing

[coarse heron]

OpSi is actually much more forgiving than regular content so getting started early is fairly simple

[deep solstice]

are we forced to use a second fleet or can i just have someone in there and mainly use the first one until i get more better ships.

[strange sphinx]

is this still opsi conversation?

if yes, not really

but if you're like Newbie, I suggest making Mob and boss fleet for it but it is really just a Suggestion

[deep solstice]

i think i'd be considered newbie since its been a little over a week since i started

[strange sphinx]

hello Veteran

[stark quiver]

Anything I can change for opsi fleets?
Don’t mind 4th

[strange sphinx]

Nice Fleet 4

Fleet one is Boss oriented hah

[cobalt rapids]

If everything works theres nothing to change

[plain saffron]

change fleet 4

[strange sphinx]

umi, dm your pfp should I need to put Unicorn in my Opsi Fleet that just do 80% of the Opsi aka the farming?

[stark quiver]

you could , not rly required tho

[cobalt rapids]

Unicorn or percy are nice to never worry about healboxs

[idle perch]

why helena cv is so hard? did she have a debuff move? i didnt read

[cobalt rapids]

Its lategame content

[stark quiver]

this^

[stark quiver]

timing, hence you should follow guide
or 🕹️

[idle perch]

i mean, im pumping in end game items as well

[stark quiver]

throwing in endgame stuff wont solve timing

[idle perch]

i really dont want to wait for another year again

[cobalt rapids]

U need to follow mechanics or u wont pass the dps check

[deep solstice]

just to make sure its 4 ur bulins to mlb a ur ship right?

[cobalt rapids]

Yeap like any other

[deep solstice]

ye got my third one now and going to get fourth from protocore shop to mlb amagi

[strange sphinx]

question is, do you have enough coins

[deep solstice]

nope

[frank quartz]

Why can't I change my fleets in OpS?

[rose cosmos]

How do you farm submarine exp

[inner delta]

go to blue port and go to the strategic button near the map

[rapid grail]

these boss fleets look good. They can deal with any boss the game throws at you. Good job
mob fleet looks good too. Can even one-fleet stronghold with good gear
now, fleet 4 is whatever. ~~put perseus and 5 other lvl 70 mlb botes w/ decent gear on there and join the faith that is c1 and c3 ~~

[inner delta]

dorm or exp pack

[rose cosmos]

That sux

[frank quartz]

Ty

[glossy raptor]

Is that OK for 14-3, 14-4 and Chapter 15?

Fleet 1 - Chkalov, Musashi, Shinano, Krondstadt, Kimberly, Yuudachi

Fleet 2 - Implacable, Volga, Soyuz, Sandy, Cooper, Shimakaze

[rapid grail]

no healer = dead
let me see your options; show your dock so that we can work with what ships you have

[sweet delta]

Where's unicorn, and must you use Kimberly and Cooper

[glossy raptor]

Better to say which ships i dont have

[sinful escarp]

so why use kimberly and not use unicorn?

[glossy raptor]

Meh, i created that fleet long time ago, and just used it on 13-4 for auto-farm

I forgot already why, but prob i thought that Volga better + Cooper and Kimberly have ASW skills?

[sharp socket]

will there be a stronghold tomorrow cause monday

[tame jungle]

Yep

[rapid grail]

haphazardly-put together fleets, w14. should work fine for full auto, don't hesitate to babysit the sorties and reset the match when one of your ships die
for w15 you can just follow:

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[glossy raptor]

Thanks!

[rapid grail]

there may be some improvements for those fleets, but with the ships we have today, w14's a cakewalk.
Good luck

[rapid grail]

oh, 14-3's boss is uh, Light armor. So use HE main guns on UvH and Biszwei for 14-3 specifically

[idle perch]

I just barely beat the normal mode

[crimson grove]

is there a shortcut to tech changing from gearing screen

[crimson glacier]

dont think so

[crimson grove]

going all the way into lab sounds cumbersome

[knotty snow]

same

[crimson glacier]

i dont really see much reason to ever change my tech

[crimson grove]

need it for tuning for a meta comp

[crimson glacier]

max techs been working fine for me

[rapid grail]

new players may want to minmax tech values to achieve smth. boomers could just not care and just do the kill anyways

[mystic topaz]

If all I got are poverty gear, what should I put on Hiei META? and is she worth raising?

[frank pulsar]

if youre using poverty gear youre a newbie
and META ships arent worth using for newbies

[rapid grail]

bc eva tech not high on priority

[cursive lark]

Damn new players now minmax tech values?

[rapid grail]

there's other ships that do better than hiei meta and sometimes they give good tech too

[frank pulsar]

theres plenty of good bb accessible to newbies

[cunning blaze]

this good for FDG?

or 2 salvos are better?

[tame jungle]

this gun is kinda turbo dookie

[crimson glacier]

yeah that gun is just always shit

[cunning blaze]

i dont heb any good option,

[crimson glacier]

no purple guns?

[tame jungle]

no mk6?

[cunning blaze]

i hev, is it good to use purple one tho?

[shell willow]

very much so

[rapid grail]

in practice, no
better off using bb guns that do damage, like 406mk6

[tame jungle]

gold does not automatically equal good

[atomic abyss]

yes, the purple triple 406mm mk6 is literally the 2nd best gun for light armour - only surpassed by a rainbow gun

[late flame]

yes

[cunning blaze]

yooo i just learn something
aight lemme chek

[coarse heron]

that is legitimately the worst gold BB gun in the game, there's blues better than it

[atomic abyss]

it isnt the worst

[coarse heron]

lemme guess, Confetti gun?

[atomic abyss]

you forgot the gold twin 410, yes

[late flame]

the gold version aka confetti gun yeah

[coarse heron]

I guess the Quad Gold is good for one thing: KGV

[cunning blaze]

how bout this one? i use this for my NJ

[atomic abyss]

shit

the only good BB AP guns are from research or gear lab

[thin seal]

Why is unzen skill 3 locked?

[atomic abyss]

not limit broken - that's her all out assault

aoa skills unlock on 1st LB, and are upgraded on max LB

aoa cant be levelled otherwise

[thin seal]

oh ya right thx

[cunning blaze]

What is SAP ammo type? i only knew normal, HE, and AP

[atomic abyss]

SAP is literally special AL - only good for med armour

in other words, total garbage

[tame jungle]

usually anti-medium specialized ammo but it's too niche

[atomic abyss]

just stick to these PURPLE guns if you dont know what you're doing

[coarse heron]

The biggest problem with it besides the fact the only guns that use it have bad damage is it's like loading pillows into your turrets if you're fighting heavy armour

[cunning blaze]

how about this? man i dont really know about salvos gun

[tame jungle]

also ass

[atomic abyss]

^

[cunning blaze]

the damage numbers become grey?

[atomic abyss]

all BB AP guns that are from core shop and tech boxes are shit - ignore them

[coarse heron]

50% damage penalty for SAP on Heavy Armour

[atomic abyss]

use these

[coarse heron]

all the good gold BB guns are either research only, or gear lab
You can't fuck up if you just use the Purple 406 mk6 for everything
It's good enough for 99% of fights in the game

[cunning blaze]

so all my goldies are shit tier guns? demn

[boreal wagon]

rarity in this game is basically a lie

[coarse heron]

this one is fine

[late flame]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[coarse heron]

but you need to understand how to use it

[cursive lark]

Beehive good for w15?

[crimson glacier]

no

[tame jungle]

yes if you wanna lose

[cursive lark]

Say every sharpnel in the beehive is combined

[cunning blaze]

auto fire? or,,,

[tame jungle]

but it isn't so it's useless

[cursive lark]

Will it do more damage than say mk6?

[coarse heron]

the Beehive is very accurate in game because it wasn't considered threatening in real life either

[late flame]

which part of 'uniquely shit' is not understood here

[crimson glacier]

the gun is always complete shit, no exceptions

[barren tapir]

actual beehives are probably more threatening than the beehive gun

[coarse heron]

There's about a 90% chance every single shell in a Beehive misses

since they have effectively 0 AoE

[cursive lark]

Oh like per fragments have 0 AoE?

[late flame]

bonus being doing no damage once hit

[coarse heron]

the individual fragments have a lower AoE area than DD main guns

[cursive lark]

I see why it's bad than. I thought it's bad because of the wide spread, but then there's a lot of enemies in w15

[coarse heron]

that is to say, none at all

[crimson glacier]

if it was good in w15 we would say it is good

[cunning blaze]

i mean non gun- beehive is already threatening
imagine hundreds of wasp or bees stinging your ass

[cursive lark]

I mean at least I tried asking

[barren tapir]

exactly, you'd be better off bringing a beehive to w15 over the beehive gun

[coarse heron]

This is what Wikipedia itself has to say about the Beehive shell:

The Sanshikidan (supposedly nicknamed "beehive") rounds were combined fragmentation and incendiary rounds intended to give warship main batteries some anti-aircraft capability. They were not considered by US Navy pilots to be particularly threatening in this role.

[cursive lark]

Who knows maybe nobody tested it and it is actually good

[late flame]

folks get confused since the purple version works fine

[cunning blaze]

dayum lmfao

[atomic abyss]

the damage on the gun is shit

even IRL it was shit

[cunning blaze]

real asf

[atomic abyss]

why would it be good in game

[coarse heron]

Yeah so AL was very accurate making it shit as well

[cunning blaze]

wait so this one is also a shit tier gun?

[coarse heron]

5 years ago it was merely mediocre instead of bad, but there's much better guns in game now.

[rapid grail]

fell off. yeah

[cunning blaze]

💀

they really need to create a good foking goldies

[tame jungle]

there are (if you follow the gear guide)

[coarse heron]

nah I like the best gun being purple, less plates

never have to worry about making it +13

[barren tapir]

also more easily accessible

[late flame]

best grey gun that wins rainbows when

[cunning blaze]

dunno how to get

[coarse heron]

trhe Twin 410mm Kai is decent too but that's quite a few mats to make what's effectively just another 406 mk6

guess if it's for a barrage ship

[versed forum]

is type 0 fighter good? I have 3 of them

[rapid grail]

the ijn one? lol its so bad

[coarse heron]

generally for fighters just look for ones that have 2x500lb bombs if you don't have any gear lab planes

[versed forum]

ok thanks

[coarse heron]

Gold Seafang is probably the easiest to get decent fighter

or the Hellcat

[mystic topaz]

when building triple cv fleets or triple bb fleets, how does cv fleets contend with suicide ships and how does bb fleets contend with planes, or do we try to avoid using such fleets when these problems occur? esp for auto fighting

is a mixture usually the safer bet?

[atomic abyss]

the only campaign maps you can use mono CV is w12/13

cos those places dont have suicide boats

full BB fleet dies above w12 without significant AA carrying in the frontline

[cursive lark]

And w15

[atomic abyss]

the tldr is - use mixed fleets - 1 BB 2 CV/CVL

[cursive lark]

I have proof you can use mono cv in w15

[rapid grail]

in campaign, yes the mixture is a safer bet in w1-11 and 14
w15 the mixture of 1 BB 2 CV/L is basically required to clear properly on first try
w12 and 13, no sudoku botes among the enemy. can use either 3 BB or 3 CV if you wish to do so

[atomic abyss]

with how much success

[sharp void]

anyone got a consistent 13-4 hard auto fleet?

[cursive lark]

Like 1 video worth of success

[atomic abyss]

so not reliable

moving on

[barren tapir]

anything can be used if you reset enough, what matters is, does it actually work consistently

[rapid grail]

soyuz - enty/yk2n combo - guam - unzen - ply

[atomic abyss]

sure we do - but do you have the ships or gear to copy?

[sharp void]

yep

show me the best of the best

[atomic abyss]

then you shouldnt have an issue to begin with

[sharp void]

doesnt mean you have the same brain as the other

[rose cosmos]

Eldridge is supposed to be a dps rite

[atomic abyss]

I used this on 13-4H lethal

[atomic abyss]

Not in the slightest

[rose cosmos]

So a buffer?

[atomic abyss]

primary purpose is "keeping your entire frontline alive"

a better jeanne

[dense eagle]

does the price on the coin gifts in the 3d dorm reset? or will it just keep going up and up

[boreal wagon]

its 4x 1k, 1x 2k, 1x 4k, 1x 6k and then 1x 8k and then u cant buy any anymore for a week(?)

[dense eagle]

ok i guess ill buy up to 2k then thx

[rose cosmos]

Vanguard dps wise, is Mogador good to invest now? Or should I wait?

[atomic abyss]

let's see what URs you have, and how many bulins can you spare

[rose cosmos]

Currently only her not limit broken

My vanguard, nj and shinano and amagi already fully lb

[atomic abyss]

so how many UR bulins can you afford? also no alsace?

[rose cosmos]

I wasn't lucky enough

[atomic abyss]

you still havent answered my other question

[rose cosmos]

Around 3

[atomic abyss]

save them for musashi rerun

frontlines are seldom the DPS carries anyways

[sharp void]

your flagship fleet the unicorn one?

[atomic abyss]

no, why would you use unicorn for bosses?

[sharp void]

yeah of course, just trolling

[rose cosmos]

What do lethal clear and safe clear mean

[coarse heron]

This is the other reason W12 on Safe is so easy

[atomic abyss]

lethal means the original difficulty
safe means you're practically given additional ship levels

[rose cosmos]

I still resorted to farming 12-4 because I don't have to lock my backline into uni and indy

I want to farm exp for freddy

[coarse heron]

well 12-4 is easy mode because of no suicide botes and the relatively low threat the planes pose even on the 3 star CV nodes

Unlike W13 where even a 1 star CV node is you're King Leonidas at the Battle of Thermopylae

[sharp void]

is it not worth using any of these guys in your support team?

[atomic abyss]

i am using alsace and soyuz

[sharp void]

what about vanguard tho ?

[atomic abyss]

also what support team - this is lethal clear no?

[sharp void]

no im on safe

[atomic abyss]

be more specific next time

[sharp void]

[atomic abyss]

frontline x fleet isnt particularly impactful - for the matter

@sharp void

[fierce sleet]

Hi, could I get help building a team?

[rose cosmos]

Say, is this decent for 14-3 and 14-4 bosses

[atomic abyss]

how new are you to the game?

[atomic abyss]

not the best - but im worried that fdg is on boss instead of mob - use another carrier here
fdg is the best mobber for w14

[tropic parcel]

sure but at least post your dock

[rose cosmos]

Who do you recommend

[tropic parcel]

can't say i have much experience running enfield retro in pve but laffey retro as offtank i'm not sure would survive 14-4 bossing

[atomic abyss]

if you have amagi mlb, she's a fine choice

[atomic abyss]

eld would be better off tank yes

[rose cosmos]

Shinano amagi with yuudachi can activate the buff rite

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[rose cosmos]

Hmm might switch to that then

[opaque gate]

on what item should j use prototype core?

[atomic abyss]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[atomic abyss]

The series 3 gear BPs first

[fierce sleet]

Do I post my dock here or another channel

[atomic abyss]

Thread

[dense eagle]

does harbiter give a lot of loot/impactful loot since i can clear it its just it usually takes quite some time since i need to re-gear since i sometimes steal their gear

[atomic abyss]

No

[opaque gate]

tenrai?

[dense eagle]

ok ty

[atomic abyss]

Tenrai after 3 champagne guns

[rose cosmos]

Also, why is Eldridge an off tank option

[atomic abyss]

Why not?

Laffey is way frailer

And you want Eldridge to proc her skill

[opaque gate]

idk the name, but what to buy here? im abt to analyze my blueprints

[atomic abyss]

It'll proc less when she's not in the tank

[rose cosmos]

And off tank is in the right side right?

[inland shoal]

15 gold plates, 5 of them non random

[atomic abyss]

Scroll down
Look for the ? blueprints for series 3

[opaque gate]

oooh

what is my goal weapon there?

[atomic abyss]

^

The champagne gun

[fierce sleet]

Team Building help

[opaque gate]

and it is fine to analyze combat data pack, right? also sorry, what is champagne gun

[atomic abyss]

The gold BB gun that's in this picture

[opaque gate]

thanks!

[coarse heron]

combat data packs are a trap yes analyse them

[finite crag]

Analizing them is the only acceptable thing to do

[dense eagle]

ah ok then, where can i find the best general fleet for opsi? i doubt ill be missing any of the ships so i just want the absolute best fleet since my fleet is like a year old and i wanna use some of my newer ships

[opaque gate]

zamn i used some before

is champagne gun good even if it is AP?

[sinful elk]

Chat why my vanguard rld is high even though i get the HSFRC off my other bbs

[crimson glacier]

skills

[finite crag]

Does ap mean bad?

You use he for light armor ap for mid/heavy

[opaque gate]

thanks

[finite crag]

You dont simply just wing it with he and call ap bad

[opaque gate]

cuz i always use he lol, thanks

should i +13 it?

[finite crag]

Yea because he guns are more common and more general use

[atomic abyss]

You should, but you probably don't have enough to +13 it right now

[opaque gate]

okiee, ill use it for izumo

which is better for izumo? if +10

[atomic abyss]

because vanguard rld stat is noticeably higher?

[finite crag]

Completely different uses

[finite crag]

Left is for med/heavy bossing right is for mobbing

[bright tusk]

When should i use either sword or bow for BB?

[sinful elk]

wait fuck i mean her gun reload cant sync with other bbs

[atomic abyss]

give her soyuz gun

[finite crag]

Mine does it just fine

[sinful elk]

I don't have one

[atomic abyss]

then give everyone a fcr

[finite crag]

If you give all 3 champagne gun and hsfcr thats good enough dont overthink it

[atomic abyss]

she's not syncing because she's the only one with the fcr

she already fires faster than the other 2 without a fcr

[sinful elk]

doesn't that will lower the dmg

[atomic abyss]

it's either you give EVERYONE a hpfcr

or no one

also - the afct is wasted on vanguard anyways

give the AFCT to Alsace, give NJ and Vanguard the HPFCR

Vanguard will still fire first, and it wont desync

[sinful elk]

i tried this before but haven;t on NJ yet

[inland shoal]

Eh idk, don't think there is an absolute best way to do OpSi fleets rly, idk what the best setup against this month's harby is either
But I think there's some recommendations somewhere? I just lost the link

[sinful elk]

Also uhh I been having this visual bug lately any idea how to fix it?

[feral ermine]

relog or repair assets

[sinful elk]

Repair assets?

[feral ermine]

yes

[strange sphinx]

in the setting

[inland shoal]

http://renhex.github.io/alft/46
This page has some example CV setups

[dense eagle]

some of them are actually the fleets i use lol but its fine i guess i dont needa change my fleets since i can kill harbiter anyway

thanks for the help tho

[rose cosmos]

Skin wise I should only buy from double up crystals rite? I wanna get that amagi skin before time runs out

[sturdy badger]

Who's next I need or prio. to research?

[blissful hamlet]

Harbin

Or shimanto or bayard

[atomic abyss]

if you dont have enough tech for haku, move on to unlock plymouth
im assuming you already have friederich de grosse

[sturdy badger]

Can't do Harbin cuz of tech points, same as Shimanto. Bayard I can do but I want to see what others has to say

[tropic parcel]

honestly doesn't matter that much because you'll be farming blueprints for months and by the time you're done you'll be able to unlock everything

[atomic abyss]

if you dont have enough for plymouth as well, consider cheshire, izumo/ibuki/azuma, to get tech as well as good ships

[sturdy badger]

I have that feeling as well cuz I've already given up on clearing W13...

[tropic parcel]

sakura is pretty easy to get points though, tons of sakura ships in the global pool you'll get naturally and tons of events

[queen jackal]

amagi cv skill level up priority?

[crimson glacier]

id just go in order

[coarse heron]

left to right

[crimson glacier]

it rarely matters what you level first

[atomic abyss]

doesnt matter - you want all of them at 10/10/10

[coarse heron]

some people say her 3rd skill doesn't matter; they're of course wrong.

[tropic parcel]

well if it makes you feel better after plymouth the PR URs are mostly sidegrades to existing options

[sturdy badger]

I can't do Plymouth. Should I just go with "waifu over meta"?

[atomic abyss]

this channel will never unironically recommend waifu over meta

[tropic parcel]

like i said it doesn't matter, blueprints are the real grind and by the time you're done with everything you'll be able to unlock everything

[atomic abyss]

unless the question is regarding "who to oath"

[sturdy badger]

Nah, I mean, it doesn't matter in the end like that...

[tropic parcel]

and you shouldn't use pr ships before they're dev 30 anyway

[rose cosmos]

Really I immediately went with perseval first instead of ancho because I like her design, meta be damn, there are other tank options anyway

[sturdy badger]

(my Agir sweating)

[atomic abyss]

considering august is also very meta

[tropic parcel]

agir is somewhat ok since she's mostly a tank but she should be at least 25

[atomic abyss]

that's not the most convincing reply

[sturdy badger]

Almost there

[tropic parcel]

but as a rule of thumb PR and DR ships before dev 30 are worse then normal gacha ships

[coarse heron]

tanks are perfectly fine to use at Dev25, they'll just be lacking in DPS

[tropic parcel]

and i'm not saying agir pre dev 30 should be used, her damage is quite high for a vanguard CB

[south sequoia]

Dev 25 agir is fine already

While you maybe losing damage, agirs damage isn't so super impressive that losing out on it warrants not using her at all since she has a lot of utility up in her kit

[obsidian ivy]

I'm curious, do you guys prioritise rainbow equips over ships every new PR season

[atomic abyss]

depends on the individual

most people go for ships

[tropic parcel]

personally no, there's plenty of time between PR seasons to go for weapons and getting multiples of a tenrai or plymouth gun is a level of min maxing i don't particularly care for

[south sequoia]

I think the strat is people max out the ships asap so they can just focus on only equips

[tropic parcel]

and honestly unless you're really unlucky you should have a full ur weapon by the time you're done grinding or at least pretty damn close

[jolly wasp]

So, Unicorn and Portland is one of the meta ships for newbies right ? Is there other Rare or Epic ships that can be used until mid-late game

[reef flume]

Unicorn is for forever

[atomic abyss]

helena

unicorn is forever, helena to a certain extent forever too

[cobalt rapids]

and portland isnt a lategame ship

[late flame]

and your starter too (at least for the rookie mission)

[jolly wasp]

I pick laffey ..

[reef flume]

Portland (if he is lucky enough in pulls) can be replaced by other tanks

[wary robin]

is it worth to replace in OpSI a triple BB fleet with Soyuz-Nakhimov-whatever CV ?

[atomic abyss]

maybe - needs more testing

tho in your case - if your nakh isnt dev 30, forget it

you will still want a triple BB fleet regardless

[wary robin]

dev30. Like, i think if soy-nah-cv would be jsut more all round reliable fleet than bisco-alsace-soyuz

[atomic abyss]

that assumes you have bis CV gear

why not just replace soyuz with vanguard

then you have 2 CV boss 1 BB boss

[late flame]

for opsi i'd do
1.mob,
2.bb,
3.cv and
4.crossfleet*(eventually but too lazy to swap for my anti-light cv fleet)

[jolly wasp]

Like ?

[atomic abyss]

san fran, prinz heinrich etc

[jolly wasp]

I use to have a, meow meow tank ship

[wary robin]

where does triple BB better than CV fleet?

[atomic abyss]

light/med armour enemies with high avi/aa?

[reef flume]

Lot of options. I for example never used Portland and used Zara instead

[late flame]

tbh portland is well usable to w10 until you'd want to replace her with better tank

[atomic abyss]

mag...

i hope you realise zara ehp is the same if not lower than port

the diffference being she does more damage

[late flame]

+zara is worse since she uses gold bulins lol

[barren tapir]

portland can go up to w13 beyond that probably not

[atomic abyss]

zara is a portkai side grade

not an upgrade

[frank pulsar]

portland works in w14 as well

[late flame]

iirc i replaced portland at around w12 yeah once i had anchorage

[reef flume]

Zara does more damage tho

[wind hazel]

not everyone have Zara 🙂

[atomic abyss]

that's what i said in the very next line

she's not replacing port

[barren tapir]

ah nice nice i wasn't sure about that one ty

[atomic abyss]

upgrades would be stuff like san fran or heinrich

[jolly wasp]

I found meow meow name, little Cheshire, kawaii

[atomic abyss]

these

[barren tapir]

anyway even if you do get a gacha upgrade early on, portkai is cheap and you need to retro and mlb her for rookie missions, so there's no reason not to use her for a while until she can be replaced

[reef flume]

I was talking about me as an example. In my earlier messages I said he could replace her with other tanks if he is lucky enough in pulls

[late flame]

still gold bulins arent easy to come by for newer players, and i would invest them in mainfleet such as Enterprise or Hood anyway

[jolly wasp]

Room is gud too? She is pr1 right

[atomic abyss]

roon is a decent tank and not much else

[late flame]

roon is only if you lack ironblood tech

[jolly wasp]

I lack ironblood waifu

[frank pulsar]

room not the same as roon
but both are basically the same for tanking, and sidegrade to portland

[late flame]

also roon muse is not worth spending that in coredata shop

[jolly wasp]

The roon beside Tallinn ?

[atomic abyss]

room is roon muse

[frank pulsar]

room not worth getting like what boring old fart said

[glacial harness]

So should I start a thread to get help with my fleet?

[sinful fern]

will i be missing out anything if i quit the game for 3 months?

[tropic parcel]

yeah

[sinful escarp]

right now yeah, iirc there is one more UR ship coming and you need to farm resources for that

[sinful fern]

wait what would i be missing out exactly

new ships or buncha resources?

[white agate]

just stock up enough cubes and then either log in once per week or follow news on this server

[sinful escarp]

both

[tropic parcel]

upcoming limited banners and a lot of cubes and money for the last ur event of the year

plus a ur re run possibly

[sinful fern]

gacha games testing my durability how can you guys last that long

[sinful escarp]

we just do dailies and close the game until reset

[finite crag]

you just gotta realise thats how all gachas are, mind numbingly boring after a while and just boils down to doing dailies

[sinful fern]

not just draining money but souls too if it keeps going

[sinful escarp]

thats why i prefer playing on emulator, i can jsut have it open while doing something else

[tropic parcel]

unless there's an event it takes like 5 minutes to do dailies and close the game

[sinful escarp]

AL is very f2p friendly, unlike the other gacha games tbh

[tropic parcel]

it takes a while to build a routine but its not like we play for hours on end every day when we're done with story stages

[sinful fern]

the gems are very scarce though im not sure if you can stay f2p with gems

[finite crag]

dont spend it on skins and youll never need to worry about gems

[tropic parcel]

you don't need gems at all, you'll get way more then enough cubes just from playing the game

[finite crag]

not at all scarce for f2p

[south sequoia]

skins and oath rings are very expensive so you should avoid them as a f2p

[tropic parcel]

gems are just for skins and superflous things like oath rings

[south sequoia]

though, you can buy them and remain f2p however it comes at a cost of having to retire any ships that dont have good tech or are good

so a lot of waifu scrapping

[sinful fern]

retiring ships give gems?

[south sequoia]

No

As in

[elfin hollow]

best mobbing fleet for opsi?

[sinful escarp]

no, he meant retiring so you can farm more

[elfin hollow]

i use amagi cv akagi muse uni napoli shima unzen atm

[south sequoia]

because you have less gems to work with, it means you have less dock space

so you will have to retire

a bunch

[tropic parcel]

unicorn and a random collection of ur ships you aren't using in the boss fleet really

[sinful fern]

my main reason for playing al is for the skins and the ring lmao

[south sequoia]

then

[tropic parcel]

then yes, expect to pay quite a bit then

[south sequoia]

I fear you might have to pull out the wallet

[finite crag]

gotta shell out money for cosmetics then

[south sequoia]

playing AL for that purpose while remaining f2p sounds like hell

lol

[rain bobcat]

you wont get that much anyway

[tropic parcel]

outside of anniversaries your gem income as f2p is maybe 50 a month if you're lucky with commisions

[rain bobcat]

5 skins tops while having 0 dorm slot and only 30 free dock expansion

[sinful fern]

i should save coins and cubes for next ur right

[sinful escarp]

commission farming for gems

if you have amagi cv already then yes, start saving

[sinful fern]

lol i dont have anything i started for a month and stopped for 2 months

[sinful escarp]

do we have a shortened name for amagi cv yet?

[finite crag]

whats wrong with calling it amagi cv

[sinful escarp]

too long imo

[finite crag]

you problem

[rain bobcat]

no because there's 3 of her

[tropic parcel]

if you play everyday 3 months is more then enough to save enough cubes and coins for the next ur

[rain bobcat]

so unless you come up with some weird name better just say amagi CV

[coarse heron]

Just call her Amagi and rename original Amagi to Amagi BC

[sinful escarp]

camagi

[coarse heron]

Or “Good Amagi”

[sharp socket]

cvmagi

[still rock]

is sirius the only 3d girl on the new dorm update?

[boreal wagon]

currently, yes

[sly cove]

What is this unlocking? i don't see any different in dorm camera

[still rock]

[boreal wagon]

after you take a picture you can frame the picture, that unlocks one of those frames

[still rock]

Whats this

[boreal wagon]

a blueprint for an equipment when u gain 50 of them u can craft it in depot

[still rock]

I mean, is it new?

[boreal wagon]

new with PR7, yes

[vital phoenix]

High standard control radar or white shell? +13 priority

[rain bobcat]

shell

[frank pulsar]

depend on how many of each you have +13 alrdy
if none then shell

[civic crag]

Are BBs bad against nagmet or smt why all the one shot runs use cv

[rain bobcat]

that's because CVs are the best against heavy

there is a BB one shot though

[civic crag]

Why not BBs with AP guns

[rain bobcat]

because CV can 2-3 strike it

[civic crag]

Oh ok ic

[verbal thistle]

What's the CV comp for Nagato META?

[wind hazel]

#gameplay-help message

[verbal thistle]

Appreciate it, thanks.

Oof, Amagi CV. Okay.

[warm flax]

Finally someone said it

[forest palm]

it's just like Bismark there's only one relevant version

[verbal thistle]

Any substitute for Amagi?

[warm flax]

Does Mog have stop?

[wind hazel]

can try this

[verbal thistle]

Thanks

[vast sparrow]

Can i ask why Mog is in the front?

[wind hazel]

idk i copy people's homework

[forest palm]

I just unga with triple BB

[eternal basalt]

It's almost like 2's are powercreep updates (except the training plane one)

[forest palm]

not even powercreep, there's just no relevant situation you'd even use the originals

[wind hazel]

her lunge is a stop, sorta, when it connects

[eternal basalt]

Except Langly

[atomic abyss]

langley kai better than langley 2 kekw

[late flame]

tbh i forgor about lang2

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm Flat

[plain saffron]

idk about you but that's not really flat

[forest palm]

"one of these is not like the others"

[strange sphinx]

Man she is too big for a light CV

[inner delta]

[ancient ridge]

Do egent banners come out back ro back or do they have time gaps?

[forest palm]

mostly reruns can happen immediately after a major event, otherwise there can be 1 to 2 weeks of down time, it depends

[ancient ridge]

Ic tyty

[forest palm]

[ionic remnant]

Anyone can help me figure out how to setup my opsi fleets?

[hollow gust]

Op UR BBs together, CVs together

[cobalt rapids]

time to kick keary from my fleet

[hollow gust]

Musashi Biszwei Alsauce Helena Plymouth

[sleek pulsar]

Is watarase good?

[cobalt rapids]

shes average

[hollow gust]

He can't use her well, nothing to do

No Yorky 2, no keary

[ionic remnant]

is bismark not as good compared to ulrich?

[cobalt rapids]

@ionic remnant u can also open a thread and post ur dock
theres alot of optimizations for ur fleets that should be made

[hollow gust]

Bismarck Zwei Shits on Ulrich , Bismarck normal is shit

[ionic remnant]

I need 17 screenshots to show all my lv100+ ships...

[hollow gust]

Just show your URS and SRs

[undone plover]

doesnt "the shit" imply she is good

[cobalt rapids]

now its just gross

[jaunty vault]

grass

[eager mulch]

glorp

[hollow gust]

Jfc serenity just gave me brain rot

[ionic remnant]

Help with optimization for Opsi

10 photos with just SRs and URs lv100+

[hushed delta]

Is there a list with what skins come secretary bgm features?

[eternal basalt]

Collab mostly

[hollow gust]

the Tea collab line of skins has its own music

[eternal basalt]

Prob this thursday

[vast sparrow]

Unzen is the same as Shimakaze but for auto?

[atomic abyss]

better for the most part, because of the gun damage

[hollow gust]

Unzen is shimakaze with less torp damage but much much better gun damage

[vital phoenix]

Who deals more dmg? Shinano without 3 ijn buff or implac?

[atomic abyss]

not a fair comparison

[hollow gust]

implacable is a support ship...

[atomic abyss]

against moving bosses, implacable is mandatory to stop them from moving

[vital phoenix]

Just the dmg. It'll decide what gear I'm upgrading to +13 so...

[atomic abyss]

why is shinano even without 3 IJN...

[hollow gust]

you shouldnt be deciding gear like that.... and they should be working together

[vital phoenix]

Yea i know. I'm using both of them. It's just that whoever deals more damage will get the plus 13 gear

[atomic abyss]

who is the 3rd CV?

[vital phoenix]

Amagi cv not yet max

[atomic abyss]

hakuryuu?

[tranquil saffron]

How do levels work in accordance with damage?
Will a level 100 ship with everything else maxed do the same damage as a level 125 ship with everything else maxed?

[keen sable]

Assuming an enemy between 100 and 125 MORE than 50% less damage dealt and MORE than 50% more damage taken

[atomic abyss]

for every level you are above the enemy, you deal 2% more and take 2% less
for every level you are under the enemy, you take 2% more and deal 2% left

it is capped at 50%

this is before including any stat bonuses

[atomic abyss]

so in your scenario this^

[tranquil saffron]

And how are the levels calculated for meta ships?

[atomic abyss]

same

why would they be any different

[tranquil saffron]

Would it be fine for me to use level 100 amagi in my fleet for meta?

[atomic abyss]

[hollow gust]

she would suck

[tranquil saffron]

Because it just says level 15

[atomic abyss]

uh

[keen sable]

if your other ships are 99 it's probably a great idea

[atomic abyss]

dude you need your eyes checked

[late flame]

EN moment

[atomic abyss]

lv 15 metas are lv 126

[hollow gust]

thats more then EN moment, thats just being blind

[atomic abyss]

it's shown in battle

[tranquil saffron]

I don't really pay attention to battles because I generally leave and go watch something on my computer until it's done

[sleek pulsar]

Is increasing unit level also increase their oil cost?

[ionic remnant]

no oil costs are fixed

[atomic abyss]

yes actually

[keen sable]

it can up to the max oil cost

[ionic remnant]

oh that's more LB isn't it?

[sleek pulsar]

[keen sable]

LB raises max oil cost

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Oil_Cost#Breakpoints

LB always raises oil cost

levelling past a certain point also increases oil cost - tho it differs from ship to ship

[ionic remnant]

huh, TIL theres a difference between oil cost and max oil cost

[atomic abyss]

for example, a 0lb ranger goes from 2 oil to 3 oil after crossing lv 35

[woeful sluice]

Could anyone please help me build a second fleet for up to 12-4? I'm currently on 10-3 (25%) with one fleet

[reef flume]

Show your dock (you can make a thread)

[woeful sluice]

Build a second fleet

[pearl fossil]

in the fishpack does Flasher get topped or Archerfish? who stays on bottom position?

[atomic abyss]

flasher stays flag

[pearl fossil]

isn't flag Albacore's spot?

[atomic abyss]

no

albacore has no flag skill

flasher does

well, albacore is also a gato class but still

[pearl fossil]

[atomic abyss]

Increases this boat's ASR by 1. Increases this boat's torpedo Crit Rate by 5% (15%) and DMG dealt against Light Armor enemies by 4% (10%). If this boat is your Submarine Fleet's Flagship or if there is another Gato-class SS in your fleet: increases your Gato-class SSs' TRP and ACC by 4% (10%).

there's no reason not to put flasher in flag really

[hushed delta]

nice, I use the free tea skin we got for Yat Sen, I hate the default bgm so much

Why is Aichi preferred to left boy?

[atomic abyss]

they are used for completely different things

breguet has parallel spread torpedoes - they are best used for mobbing

ryuuseis are converging torpedoes - they are best suited for bossing when you have a slower

[hushed delta]

oh ok I didn't know breguet had parallels

[atomic abyss]

the short is

[atomic abyss]

both are parallel

[hushed delta]

last question, which one is better for Unicorn mobbing

[atomic abyss]

left is stronger

[hushed delta]

I guess yeah, because preload

[cerulean musk]

is there anything limited to get in the new dorm thing

[hushed delta]

isn't the beach location free of gems only during this week?

[cerulean musk]

how to get it

[hushed delta]

when I clicked on the beach it said "cost = free/ 0 gems (800 before discount)

[cerulean musk]

this? it wont let me get it

[hushed delta]

I didn't quite understand that message, but it didn't cost me gems so yea it's free, at least for now or whatever that "discount" thing means

[cerulean musk]

need some sort of ticket to get the beach

[hollow gust]

There's the ticket from the weekly...

[cerulean musk]

oh

[vast sparrow]

Is the position of the CV matters? Like switching Graf and Uni

Damn even 125, its still weak

[hushed delta]

I always feel the gal under flag receives more dmg from roamers/planes...

[hollow gust]

That's what happens when you use Graf and normal Bismarck

[terse sinew]

Should I pair pearl with HPH on Laffey II? or use a toolkit with either of em on Laffey?

I feel like a toolkit would be nice no?

[strange sphinx]

[keen sable]

what is an hph

[eager mulch]

high powered horse

[tame jungle]

washing machine

[eager mulch]

mfw rudder

[keen sable]

High Performance Horse Steering Gear

[exotic ginkgo]

I think they should just name it Hydraulic Steering Gear since there is no low performance counterpart.

[soft raft]

I mean technically the blue rarity one is a lower performance one

[tame jungle]

to me, high performance hydraulic steering gear is just normal hydraulic steering gear

[keen sable]

Sorry but that name is taken

[exotic ginkgo]

Ahhh, forget about that one...

Then change the gold one to Advanced Hydraulic Steering Gear.

Or the blue one to just Steering Gear to avoid stupid long names.

[silk helm]

what's the best way to spend 8k ap opsi? c5 on repeat?

[undone plover]

c3 and stopping for akashi is presumably more efficient but slower overall