gameplay-help

[eager mulch]

maybe if he clicked on the box he could find out?

[sweet delta]

maybe a level 130 or level 140 commander could know

[knotty snow]

hmmm...

[desert tapir]

For Yorkii Wyvern in her third weapon slot for this will work yes?

[finite crag]

wyvern isnt a bossing plane

[knotty snow]

that actually might been possible... if I had the other Essex

[stark quiver]

yall should really drop the topic be4 you get bonked

[desert tapir]

My fault I was set to Not In Use and complete missed I can put another Cat on her.

[finite crag]

if youre picking between torp bombers and fighters for heavy youd want torps

converging torps not parallel like wyvern

[desert tapir]

Thats Prototype Tenrai Yes>

[finite crag]

thats a dive bomber

[sharp socket]

thats dive bomber

use saiun kai, ryuusei, ju87

timing adjust depending on your slow

[desert tapir]

Sorry its late and I just want this done before I forget and miss the fight.
Slow is AVP so I am pretty sure I can get the wondow down.

[finite crag]

even if you miss harby its not a big deal it doesnt give you that many mats

[desert tapir]

Don't care about the mats. Care about the extra cash for the shop on reset.
Edit: Which is for earning mats next month so I suppose in the end it is about the mats, just not from the fight.

[true kraken]

how to get this

[finite crag]

en 6th anniversary event a month ago, you missed it

[true kraken]

got damm it

[knotty snow]

I MADE IT... bruh the Ally fleet did better than my fleet having SHima and Musashi

my Musashi literally dies to planes on the very first attack

[true kraken]

why make an item cannot obtain by using gem, smh this game

[finite crag]

why would they do that

[true kraken]

so returning player dont get behind

[strong tartan]

We aren't wargaming

[finite crag]

sounds p2w to me

[sharp socket]

this works on any tech, avp hakunano as an example

[finite crag]

dont worry just dish out 100$ and get everything

[true kraken]

How can that item make me win this game

[wind hazel]

tbh timelocking stuff behind 2 years doesn't sound bright to me either

[finite crag]

its an unfair advantage

[knotty snow]

bruh who told me not to use NC in my thread wtf when my Musashi dies instantly to planes ???

[finite crag]

being able to pay and just get ahead is unfair

[strong tartan]

Add her retro item to a container thats 100 dollars each and the drop rate is 1%

[true kraken]

how am I getting ahead?

[finite crag]

im not having this conversation with you

[sweet delta]

bruh go complain in #al-general or reread your own thread instead of asking us

[desert tapir]

it will come around again. Probley during rerun but considering its a retro material maybe sooner. Hard to with them sometimes I think,

[wind hazel]

is it a year or two years for these retro item?

[vernal osprey]

Lv 120 should be enough for both w14 and w15 right?

[sharp socket]

125 preferred

[wind hazel]

w14 barely, w15 is really doubtful

[sharp socket]

the more stuff you lack the harder it will be

[sweet delta]

it's enough if you make up for the non-125 elsewhere, which you probably can't

[vernal osprey]

I have like 4 ships in total that are still 120 within both mob and boss fleet

[jaunty pecan]

can the meta ship drop from event D3/SP?

[stark quiver]

if you cna make up for it go ahead

[vernal osprey]

Just a VERY low chance

[strong tartan]

No

[jaunty vault]

yes

[desert tapir]

I got all of mine from drops this time around... but usually I don;t get any from event maps

[vernal osprey]

I asked because my Mogador suddenly went to half health within one torpedo in w14, she's 120, good thing unicorn and Aquila is there

[jaunty vault]

i say that but I got her in like 2 run

[strong tartan]

Are you saying yes just to say yes

[jaunty vault]

im saying yes to counter your no

[strong tartan]

I'm gonna counter your yes with another no

[sharp socket]

mod gonna bonk the both of you

[vernal osprey]

lmao

[jaunty vault]

what mod

[strong tartan]

Me

[harsh gust]

me

[tepid crater]

125 won’t stop those torps from doing that much damage. At 125 you may do enough damage to kill most of the torp boats so you don’t see as many

[vernal osprey]

Ic Ic

[bright tusk]

SR TB for mobbing better skypirate or VIT-2 VK107?

[jaunty vault]

id like to say skypirate

but some vouch for the VIT 2

[spring bolt]

usually you build none of them...

[vernal osprey]

Who can replace Ret Sandy? As of now?

[jaunty vault]

thats facts

[strong tartan]

For what doe

[jaunty vault]

no one

[vernal osprey]

In mob fleets

[vernal osprey]

125 worthy?

[jaunty vault]

sure is

[vernal osprey]

bet

[jaunty vault]

dont forget to get her augment

also if you're just doing normal mobs then there's quite a few that can replace her

[desert tapir]

First time I cleared Harbitor!
Thanks for the help everyone!

[blissful hamlet]

how much does the russian converging torps actually improve a CV fleet cuz I already have 6 +13 conv torps

[vernal osprey]

What is Kron's main role in a mob fleet like this one for example

[sweet delta]

tank and dps

[forest palm]

Mod Vit is another timing TB that sits along side the other 3 it's that simple, it doesn't improve, none of the 4 are vastly better than the other they're all used depending on the required timing needed to sync

[slow fox]

Don't listen to Suchiperson

it's dps and tank

[vernal osprey]

I see, are there second options or she is bis?

[stark quiver]

there are many other options

pretty sure she has the highest dps of all cbs tho

[vernal osprey]

Ic Ic, alright then

[sweet delta]

she's basically bis for chapter 14

[vernal osprey]

w15?

[stark quiver]

nope, guam and brest are better

[vernal osprey]

Brest...oh god I have to farm for her...I barely have triple digits for her blueprint 💀

How about hindenburg?

[jaunty vault]

DPS

[stark quiver]

shes pure dps, cannot tank

[vernal osprey]

A glass canon?

[finite crag]

pretty much

[rain bobcat]

plastic cannon

[stark quiver]

essentially, like she can survive, just not tanking or else she explodes

[rain bobcat]

glass cannon would be wichita, quite literally implodes even in the middle

[vernal osprey]

I was confused why I got an A and saw Unicorn dead, reviewed her gears and saw this...should I rethink my life choices?

[stark quiver]

not rly

[rain bobcat]

its good if its w14

[vernal osprey]

then why she dead...she's full 125...

[rain bobcat]

wyvern would improve but the rest are fine

[stark quiver]

prob getting shelled in w14, or leaking subs like shit

[rain bobcat]

just because she died doesn't mean she's the problem

do you have roomba and good asw

[vernal osprey]

probably...

[rain bobcat]

she'll get shelled if she gets detected

[tepid crater]

125 doesn’t give you immunity to damage. It just takes away bonus damage. You still gotta play around the mechanics of the stages

[wind hazel]

what even is the fleet you're using?

knowing 1 out of 6 ships isn't a good context

[finite crag]

.

[rain bobcat]

use triple roomba and use hedgehog+1 more asw gear

[stark quiver]

whart chapter

[rain bobcat]

inclined to say just swap mogador for kawa/ddg

[finite crag]

fourteen

[vernal osprey]

Might seem crazy what I'm bout to say

[rain bobcat]

you were already using that?

[vernal osprey]

Yeup

[stark quiver]

it looks fine, probably being shelled

[rain bobcat]

probably just dry ddg/kawa/yuudachi instead of moga

[vernal osprey]

RNGesus be trolling me

[rain bobcat]

might just he rng

[vernal osprey]

ddg?

[rain bobcat]

auto sometimes goes too far out of asw range

[wind hazel]

it's rewind reset time

[rain bobcat]

anshan changchun tai yuan retrofits are ddg

[vernal osprey]

I see I see...

[rain bobcat]

tai yuan is the best solo ddg

[vernal osprey]

...I don't have them...idk where they went...

[wind hazel]

what's wrong with mog?

[rain bobcat]

just testing if it can be more consistent

[vernal osprey]

Kawa is severely underleveled, so yuudachi it is...

Transfer all Mog's gears to Yuudachi?

[rain bobcat]

yuudachi has more asw iirc might help

[rain bobcat]

yes

[vernal osprey]

How about Aux? Repair tool kit or Support Towel or Hydraulic(for Yuudachi)?

[rain bobcat]

either works

[finite crag]

towel or tool kit

[vernal osprey]

I'll try, and give a feedback

[eager mulch]

Kron wants a piece of northern parliament gear iirc

[vernal osprey]

Can you send a pic of that gear

[eager mulch]

it’s just anything northern parliament

[finite crag]

you can use her gun

[eager mulch]

one of these two prob or some aux

[vernal osprey]

I see alright I'll try it out later if my fleet fails...

[vernal osprey]

triple 305 is used on Guam...

[loud cedar]

So i've been playing for about 3-4 weeks and have gotten 3 of the Ultra Bullins(the UR ones?) . My only UR atm is the one on current banner, Amagi(CV), would I regret using those up on her or would I be better off hoarding em for something that might come in the future? I'm not exactly sure on how rare these are but I suspect they're somewhat of a pain to get.

[eager mulch]

they’re heavily timegated, using them on amagi cv would not be a waste but you don’t have enough to mlb her

[loud cedar]

So I should hold out until I can mlb 1?

[eager mulch]

did you get the one from getting 30k event points?

[loud cedar]

Yeah, that was my 3rd one

[eager mulch]

hmmge

[loud cedar]

I forget where I grabbed my first one but 2nd was from the proto shop

[tepid crater]

If you don’t have any other Russian gear but want to keep the ply gun on Krons. You could use one of the purple Russian AA guns. It’s not like Kronshadt is contributing to AA. So for a poverty pick I’d use those instead

[eager mulch]

id use them on amagi but I wouldn’t use amagi cv just yet

[vernal osprey]

Don't worry, I switched Main gun gear with Guam

[loud cedar]

Sorry, not sure I understood that

[eager mulch]

ships aren’t good unless they’re mlb, use the bulins on amagi to get the dock space back but don’t use her because she won’t be mlb

[loud cedar]

ooo

[eager mulch]

you’ll be able to get a 4th ur bulin next month and be able to mlb and use her then

so just be patient

[loud cedar]

That makes sense, I have been seeing casualities as I enterered world 9 this week, lol. Granted i'm pretty sure my teams have been scuffed as just threw stuff together

Does that mean even a ship with like 12~20 less levels and lower rarity if mlb would be better?

[sick sorrel]

Is the new Amagi UR better than Enterprise?

[vernal osprey]

If you get good RNG and Enterprise uses her skills often, Enterprise has more total damage...BUT CVAmagi gives a lot of benefits other than damage for fleets (supports) especially if your fleet is an IJN fleet

[vernal osprey]

Guys, please correct me if I'm wrong

[sick sorrel]

Then, is Enterprise better than Aquila/Unicorn Retro?

[vernal osprey]

NO

[eager mulch]

different roles

[sick sorrel]

Alright, thank you

[stark quiver]

there is no comparison, its not really a yes or no

[vernal osprey]

They're healers, Enty is a DPS

[stark quiver]

does enty have better damage? yes
does unicorn and aquila have better healing? yes

[sick sorrel]

Makes sense why I had both in my mobbing fleet

[vernal osprey]

But Enty against CVmagi? I haven't seen CVmagi's damage count yet

[sick sorrel]

So I guess it's just preference?

[vernal osprey]

Have you MLB CVmagi yet?

[stark quiver]

cv amagi wins because shes a UR
and because shes good

[sick sorrel]

One off and I haven't collected the bulin from the shop yet

[vernal osprey]

Yeah I would guess so since she does almost as much as normal Enty (NOT with Lucky E) maybe even more AND with the added benefit of supports on fleets, and she looks cool

[vernal osprey]

I see, but from this conversation I'm having, I would suggest use Enty for a while until CVmagi MLB then replace her with CVmagi...

[sick sorrel]

Yeah, one thing I learned is that LB is important, but I just wanted to ask if both were lb

[vernal osprey]

CVmagi for sure

[loud cedar]

Since using someone not MLB is considered bad, is there someone here easier to MLB or already maxed MLB that would better to run for now?

[eager mulch]

waiting for amagi cv chan

[vernal osprey]

Unless you want ton of damage/nuke on enemy by the power of RNGesus with Enty skill...

[drifting dew]

New player I get Amagi cv is she good and should I keep summoning on event banner I only have her??

[stark quiver]

no

[eager mulch]

stop pulling, amagi cv good but not for you probably

[vernal osprey]

In late game, she's great

[eager mulch]

she’s great when shes 6 stars

[vernal osprey]

Also that

[drifting dew]

@eager mulch who should I pull for??

[eager mulch]

one pull in light pool daily

[vernal osprey]

Guys, it seems Yuudachi is doing wonders for me, at least when being compared to Mogador in w14

[crisp wadi]

Are you able to retro uni?

[deep solstice]

It’s prob not worth crafting skill books to higher tier right? I think u lose out on a decent amount of exp if u do no?

[crisp wadi]

Doest 125 ships max, still count to cdc?

[loud cedar]

I can't for a few days, i'm short like 10~15k gold I think

[eager mulch]

lose xp save time up2u

[eager mulch]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[crisp wadi]

I think its better to retro uni 1st

[loud cedar]

I'll dedicate gold for that first then, thank you

[deep solstice]

As a F2P I think I’ll take take extra exp.

[eager mulch]

you eventually start drowning in books regardless of f2p or not

[deep solstice]

Also I’ve been meaning to ask how important is it for me to level up the merchant, canteen , and the lecture? Is it top prio to get to everything to max level

[eager mulch]

Very important

[vernal osprey]

So what's the strategy here with w14-15, once you run out of Ammo, target the lower difficulty ones and use the boss fleet to clear the others or am I missing something?

[sweet delta]

safe threat before three star

[vernal osprey]

You get Safe threat afte ryou've completed the stage first right?

[blissful atlas]

just finished the research and got flandre any recommendations on who to build next

[eager mulch]

fdg

[vernal osprey]

Why not Anchorage for him/her?

[eager mulch]

because with no context I have no fucking clue who they already have

I think I’ve seen this guy in ectl before tho

[vernal osprey]

lmao tru tho

[eager mulch]

they have a command about them in ectl lol

[vernal osprey]

Dam...w14-3 boss killed my vanguards

[sweet delta]

that's impressive

[rain bobcat]

no jeanne?

[vernal osprey]

This is the boss fleet

[rain bobcat]

dont use agir

[vernal osprey]

I think i'm doing something or missing something here...

[sweet delta]

that's even more impressive

easiest boss of chapter 14 kills 2 CBs with jeanne

[rain bobcat]

also dont flag shinano and maybe outright replace her sincd shes not proccing passive anyway

[vernal osprey]

Who should I replace them with

[rain bobcat]

agir is a bad choice

plymouth would be good

[vernal osprey]

Don't have her

[rain bobcat]

eh, harbin or ancho

even if agir is not the best choice I doubt she should be dying

[vernal osprey]

Wait, let me make a thread and post images of the gears they were using

[rain bobcat]

do ur ships have torp bulge? torp bulges make a massive difference in 14&15

[vernal osprey]

World 14 boss fleet

[rain bobcat]

torp bulge would probably fix ur issue entirely

[knotty snow]

actually having mostly eagle union ship helped a lot

musashi and shima ARE the handicap

[rain bobcat]

musashi is not a handicap

musashi is singlehandedly the best BB in campaign

[finite crag]

He had 0 aa and his underleveled musa was in his words taking way more damage than if he had nc so nc > musa

Refuses to level uni

[vernal osprey]

Taht's a hate crime right there 💀

[rain bobcat]

quite a bad comparison lmao

horrible actually

imagine calling the best campaign BB a handicap because they were hella underleveled and doing what they were supposed to do in sponging up the dmg

[knotty snow]

yeah but I have nothin else... you guys suggested to me to use Musashi\

[knotty snow]

also even if I had a max AA vanguard its not enough... many planes still go through

[finite crag]

Then thats not max aa

Youre doing 13 not 15

[knotty snow]

what is max AA then ???

[crimson glacier]

having good carriers like uni

[finite crag]

Just having decent gear on your carrier would solve most of your issues

[knotty snow]

welI used a hell of a lot of resources just to level uni when I could have level the foxes

[crimson glacier]

foxes are shit and uni is good so kinda weird comparison

[stark quiver]

the foxes are ass

[finite crag]

Yea and foxes are dogshit your point exactly?

[mint flint]

uni is an investment that will last forever

[knotty snow]

I mean the UR foxes

[crimson glacier]

those dont beat uni either

[knotty snow]

yeah but are UR foxes shit then ???

[finite crag]

You dont have the ur bulins to raise them and they dont heal unlike uni

[crimson glacier]

well no, just worse than uni

[knotty snow]

well funky said they are dogshit soo

[finite crag]

No they just dont compete with uni they do different things

[crimson glacier]

coz foxes 99% of the time mean kaga and akagi

[finite crag]

Im actually going insane

[knotty snow]

bruh your the one who said it.. you could have said they have different roles

[knotty snow]

I thought those fox carriers are outdated

[thorn shoal]

why game is stuck on loading screen after downloading how do i fix it

[crimson glacier]

well why do you think everyone is calling them shit

[vernal osprey]

Amagi upgraded when she got her rebirth into a phoenix

[mint flint]

restart the game

[thorn shoal]

already cleared cache and everything

[crimson glacier]

like no one calls shinano or amagi foxes

[mint flint]

redownload the game

[vernal osprey]

Or Musashi for that matter

[knotty snow]

ehh some peeps said they are foxes earlier but I guess they do get mixed up often

[crimson glacier]

first time for me

[finite crag]

Some peeps who??

[knotty snow]

people asking earlier

[finite crag]

Sure

[thorn shoal]

is that really the only way?

[knotty snow]

also stop blaming me when your the one who is literally saying they are shit.. what if the players dont even have them ???

[crimson glacier]

what are you even on about

[finite crag]

I have clue what youre trying to say with that sentence

So im going to ignore it sorry

[crimson glacier]

didnt we just go over this, how everyone thought you meant kaga and akagi

[zenith heron]

Probably if the player does not have the superior ones, the former superior ones is the best choice is what you are trying to say?

[mint flint]

you can try asking in #tech-support

[knotty snow]

yeah I know but he was saying everything I said was "shit " or trash

[crimson glacier]

he said the foxes are shit, which they are

[knotty snow]

because my UR ships are already partially level up where my Unicorn was just sitting there... wasted a lot of resources

[mint flint]

unicorn is never a waste of resources

[knotty snow]

ik but I thought you guys knew

[keen sable]

you've been told the best thing to do is use unicorn for over 2 days and you still refuse. i think that says it all.

[zenith heron]

Well he is talking on their uses, after all different uses mean smth...

[knotty snow]

I mean I should have level up the UR ships first

[mint flint]

as we've established, we didnt

[mint flint]

you can do them at the same time

[crimson glacier]

unicorn is more important tha most URs

[mint flint]

they dont conflict in resources except coins

[knotty snow]

ok then... but the UR ships arent trash right ??? (srry for the misunderstanding)

[crimson glacier]

?????

[mint flint]

we've literally said they arent

[vernal osprey]

Both Uni and Percy right?

[knotty snow]

I am out of coins

[crimson glacier]

percy isnt important at all

[mint flint]

you can farm for them easily

[keen sable]

sr foxes aren't useful

[vernal osprey]

Dam

[knotty snow]

srry fat finger

[keen sable]

so get coins, it's been over 2 days

[mint flint]

percy is largely useless since unicorn exists

[zenith heron]

I see, bcs UR like Shinano can be used in mobs, but Uni just kills them off, but boss fleets, Shinano just accels

[knotty snow]

shipos morale.. I dont have that much ships

[mint flint]

put them in dorm

[knotty snow]

I am

[finite crag]

More of no ur ships can directly replace uni or what she does

[knotty snow]

yeah but the UR are already partially leveled

[zenith heron]

But different uses considering one has heal and the other has superior AVI

[knotty snow]

actually I should have just said most of my UR are partially leveled when I joined

[mint flint]

partially levelled or partially limit broken

[knotty snow]

both

[rain bobcat]

ur not only not using research ships but also using unoptimal real ships

[mint flint]

lower levels are easy to get anyway

[knotty snow]

while Unicorn is a flat level 0 unretro fitted... I just came back from a hiatus

[mint flint]

just slap some books on

[knotty snow]

I only have 2 research ships in the first place

[spring delta]

When dealing bosses on chapter 14 and 15
Using Yorktown II what plane supposed to be on the 3rd slot? Torp bombers right?

[rain bobcat]

fighter

[knotty snow]

did I mention I do not have a lot of research ships to begin with ???

[knotty snow]

you mean xp books ???

[mint flint]

yeah

[zenith heron]

Yes

[finite crag]

If your URs arent max limit broken either they are useless

[barren tapir]

use unicorn
mine's almost enough exp for 125 already i use her for everything mob+event she's just that good (2 week player)

[mint flint]

you should have a lot of them

[finite crag]

So throwing xp on them and raising them literally does nothing for you rn

While uni is something youll use for the rest of the game

[stark quiver]

thats not the problem, understand that only using "real" and "historical" ships in game, will cripple you, if you like to, by all means go ahead

[finite crag]

And is easily raised

[rain bobcat]

this whole problem would have been solved if you just sent dock, level up the recommended fleet and not complained about things happening with ur dogshit current fleet

[knotty snow]

yeah but I just gotten more bulins and such... but I burned most books on Uni when I could have gotten both AMagi CV and Shinano ready

also Siruis was partially build as well so I have to finish her as well

[crimson glacier]

unicorn is still better than those 2 for campaign

[mint flint]

most of your xp will come from grinding anyway

[finite crag]

Theyre ready when they have 6 stars, anything you do before that is not helping

[barren tapir]

is there a reason you're rushing so much? take your time the campaign isn't going anywhere

[mint flint]

you shouldnt be relying on xp books to level ships, other than the initial 70 or so levels

[zenith heron]

I guess the best would be not progressing for now if you don't have ships that can make content easier like Uni kai and Helena Kai...

Just proceed if you maxed em... and shelf the former used

[knotty snow]

yeah but that would take time...

[mint flint]

everything in the game does

90% of AL has timegates

[rain bobcat]

send dock>get a fleet recommended>level said fleet>toss all non mlb ur because they are useless until mlb

[knotty snow]

ik that... but if I can beat it now why I wait ???

[rain bobcat]

you are not beating w13 with ur current fleet no matter what you do

[zenith heron]

Sadly it will take time, after all 1000 exp books isn't that near to get but not too far as well

[knotty snow]

I just did lmao

I removed musashi and shima and it was easier

[finite crag]

13-1 and youre already throwing a clebration

[barren tapir]

if you're struggling to beat it now there's nothing wrong with waiting a bit until it's easier, when you have the appropriate ships levelled geared etc

[rain bobcat]

ur not even at taihou and already dying horribly

[zenith heron]

If you experience difficulties, then the ones suggested is recommended

[keen sable]

non mlb ships are trash and you just said amagii and shinano couldn't be mlb so therefore you continue to waste your time with them

[knotty snow]

because it was easier than I thought... musashi literally dies after 2 battles

[rain bobcat]

ah I wonder why

[finite crag]

Im fucking crying dawg

[rain bobcat]

probably not even mlb and not above lvl 100 no shit

[knotty snow]

wdym I said I burned most resources on Uni so I couldnt level them up now

[keen sable]

if you're special because you beat beat 13-1 with trash I've got news for you. Even a L1 mutsuki can beat 13-1

[rain bobcat]

all 6 of ur vanguard dont even have AA and ur mob dont have uni

[knotty snow]

musa and shima are above level 100 wdym

[finite crag]

stop the cap your musa is 108

[knotty snow]

well thats why I swapped Shima out

[rain bobcat]

dont cap lmao

[finite crag]

edited it lmfao no way

[knotty snow]

bruh I misstyped ok

[rain bobcat]

an mlb 120 musashi shits on w13 any day

[zenith heron]

Ships are always at their peak when they are Maxed Level and MLB,

Its like me asking and trying to say that a 5 Limit Break Hindenburg is better than an MLB Ibuki

[sinful escarp]

just calm down and farm 12-4 to level up your ships and get more resources, game is not a race, there is no use to rush

[knotty snow]

bruh your the one saying everything is shit dude... and shit means bad

[mint flint]

how did it go from 100 to 120 though those numbers are way far apart

[finite crag]

because what im calling shit is bad 😭

[knotty snow]

I accidently missed typed

[rain bobcat]

[knotty snow]

so you mean UR ships are bad then ???

[mint flint]

in the first place its not like beating w13 gives you huge benefits

[finite crag]

this again oh my god

[mint flint]

its basically just +10 dock space

[keen sable]

yours are. mine are awesome.

[zenith heron]

He just meant they're bad if not fully utilized like MLB and maxed level

[knotty snow]

I literally mean that they are not worth it to get ???

[rain bobcat]

atp are you actually trolling or that clueless

[mint flint]

they'll be worth it once they're invested

[zenith heron]

If you have Fox sisters maxed and mlb compared to shinano half maxed, Fox sisters are literally gonna shit on em

[knotty snow]

I literally corrected myself I mean the UR ships but you keep on going and saying they are shit

[zenith heron]

Worth to get, but not worth to use until fully utilized

[knotty snow]

when I could have maxed them out instead of Uni

[mint flint]

regardless of what the ship is, if its not invested then its shit

[finite crag]

after you corrected themself i only said theyre shit if theyre not MLB?

or are you gonna keep putting words in my mouth?

[knotty snow]

I already said I could have mlb them if uni didnt steel the resources

[barren tapir]

i think they might be getting confused due to the number of responses

[knotty snow]

and you still didnt read that and I repeated myself like 2 times

[finite crag]

then what i said doesnt affect that

[rain bobcat]

there have been very clear responses for hours

[ivory linden]

luckily uni doesnt require ur bullins. so take a breath and grind for resources, no rush

[barren tapir]

please, make a thread for helping you so there's less clutter and people yapping, it'll be easier for communication

[rain bobcat]

and they still want to use dogshit fleets because they want to beat 13 rn even if its mathematically impossible

[knotty snow]

II alread ygot the UR bullins...

[mint flint]

whats the problem then

use them

[knotty snow]

question... if a dogshit fleet beats w13 then is it still mathematically impossible ???

[barren tapir]

mostly yes, i can see there was some miscommunication over who the "foxes" were though

[finite crag]

even if you can get thosse ur mlb and theyre competing with uni for coins of all thing, youd still pick uni to raise first

[rain bobcat]

literally got a recommendation, does it but loses because horrible limit break and levels and want to do it with horrible high lvl ships instead and complains because they barely live at 13-1

[barren tapir]

anything can beat anything if you manual hard enough and have the levels gear and bare minimum requirements to back it up. presumably you are not attempting to sweat your butt off to clear though.

[sweet delta]

you mean this is berke's main?

[rain bobcat]

absolutely brain damage conversation

[finite crag]

mine is fried

[knotty snow]

???

[barren tapir]

my question is what's so important that you need to beat world 13 today? come back later once you've levelled and mlbed all the ships people are recommending, and you'll stomp it no worries.

[crimson glacier]

i just feel like you are trying to waste everyones time

[knotty snow]

wdym by horrible limit break levels ???

[zenith heron]

Next time try to focus on one, their recommendations are good, but not everything can be rushed like what an experienced player does...

[verbal thistle]

Will Hiei META be available in OpSi? Just curious how the crystals will be available after the event ends

[crimson glacier]

she wont be

[rain bobcat]

no

[vale spindle]

they will get added to the meta shop similar to u556 meta and bearn meta and others currently there

[verbal thistle]

Ah, the shop. Okay. Thank you.

[zenith heron]

Its the non max stars on your ships

[rain bobcat]

her crystals will be on shop but not her

[verbal thistle]

Appreciate it, thanks all

[knotty snow]

so he means would I rather use non lmb ships rather than high level ones ???

[ivory linden]

not mlb= bad

[finite crag]

move on, take our suggestions and do what we said or not it doesnt matter

[stark quiver]

mlb = good
not mlb = bad
its very shrimple

[undone plover]

@verbal thistle it is cheaper to get the crystals from event shop
Meta shop currency is hard to get and they just added some other ships u might want to get in that shop

[thorny surge]

Just pull n dry ur coobe

[rain bobcat]

ship with no pity and lower chance than UR

[thorny surge]

Yea

[zenith heron]

High Levels and Maxed Limit Break are differrent ship strengths, both combined makes them stronger, stick to your fleet that is on its strongest for now

[verbal thistle]

Fair. I started the event late so I'm trying to convince myself to get the crystals instead of the gear skins lol

[undone plover]

There is time left to grind it all
But fair enough u do what u think best suits u

[rain bobcat]

you can still get all of those

1 week is enough for 50k

[verbal thistle]

Cool.

[knotty snow]

yeah thats what I am doing now

also I forgot to mention (srry this one is on me) I was using 2 healers without realizing

buts not Uni

[finite crag]

which one

[crimson glacier]

2 healers is good

if the ships are good

[knotty snow]

Inagram and in some cases San Fransisco

[finite crag]

"healers"

[crimson glacier]

so 0 healers

[knotty snow]

partially heal

[finite crag]

no heal

[knotty snow]

wdym no heal ???

you mean like 0 heals at all ?

[crimson glacier]

ingraham is just garbage

[knotty snow]

well she did save my vanguard sooo idk

and free shields

[crimson glacier]

uni would deal more in 1 battle than she does all battles combined

[knotty snow]

yeah but she isnt ready... for now I am fine

[crimson glacier]

ingraham is just bad unit in general

[keen sable]

L110 Ingraham is better than a L1 Mutsuki. congratulations

[knotty snow]

??? isnt she better than Shima with no AA ???

[crimson glacier]

san fran is fine but she is not even close to a real healer

id much rather use shima even in AA heavy worlds

[knotty snow]

ik but they partially heal and I forgo about it

[crimson glacier]

but i have the option to use neither

[knotty snow]

who would you use to make up for the less AA tho ???

[crimson glacier]

theres 6 slots in the fleet

[knotty snow]

yeah ???

[crimson glacier]

not all need to be AA

[knotty snow]

ik but I mean if you use shima there would be less AA right ???

[crimson glacier]

well you are using san fran, her AA is also shit so why arent you complaining about that

almost like it didnt matter

[knotty snow]

huh are you sure ???

[crimson glacier]

is there a reason i shouldnt be

[knotty snow]

did you not put bofers on her ???

[crimson glacier]

ok you just arent worth my time, good luck im out 🙂

[knotty snow]

she around the same as my other US CA ????

[vale spindle]

you only need 1 hyper AA ship per fleet for chapter 13

the AA of the other ships doesn't matter

[knotty snow]

by hyper AA you mean a max out Sandy ???

[vale spindle]

max retrofit and leveled sandy yes thats one option

[knotty snow]

for example ???

[knotty snow]

bruh literally go read it yourself

you guys also said ign have shit AA in general so why arent YOU compaining about that ???

[strong tartan]

Hello

[vernal osprey]

What is bro yammering about 💀

[strong tartan]

coz Japanese ships have shit aa with a few examples like shimanto and isuzu post retro

[vale spindle]

max retrofit and leveled guam
dev 15 or higher and leveled cheshire
max retrofit and leveled juneau
dev 30 or higher and leveled shimanto
max retrofit and leveled isuzu
max limit break and leveled laffey ii
max retrofit and leveled eldridge

[knotty snow]

omg my San AA is around 470 with helena around 480 along with balti and Brem with 470 and said thats shit ???

[vale spindle]

stat isn't the only thing, efficiencies and skill buffs also matter

[knotty snow]

Shima is like around 250

[vale spindle]

also certain ships through limit breaks gain more mounts on a weapon, for example cheshire at dev 15 gains an additional aa gun mount which effectively doubles her AA

[knotty snow]

ik but that guy said shit when he cant even read

[finite crag]

dunning kruger effect

[knotty snow]

wdym it is higher

what else you want me to do ??? photo shop it ???

[strong tartan]

Dude what are you talking about

[knotty snow]

Ik that but Sans AA is not shit

[plain saffron]

if only stat matters saratoga would be top CV

[strong tartan]

We didn't say Sandy aa was shit

[knotty snow]

I mean San Fransisco... if I mean San Diego I would have said Sandy

[vale spindle]

san diego AA is really really really good thats correct
baltimore and bremerton and san francisco AA are average at best thats correct

[knotty snow]

yeah but he said shit

[plain saffron]

who

[knotty snow]

Tora

[strong tartan]

Torva are we surprised

[vale spindle]

AA doesn't matter when you have 1 hyper AA ship (in chapter 13), so to them shit AA = not hyper AA ship

[finite crag]

lets be honest here san fran aa isnt exactly stellar either

[plain saffron]

can't believe torva said that 😔

[knotty snow]

yeah but its far from shit compare to a lot of ign ships

[vale spindle]

that difference doesn't matter

[crimson glacier]

Go look at her AA

[finite crag]

that entirely depends on what ijn ship youre talking about

[strong tartan]

That's like comparing a rock to a polished gemstone

[knotty snow]

you go look at her AA

[vale spindle]

the difference between a hyper AA ship and san fran is larger than the difference between san fran and whoever ijn ship with trash AA
*for AA only

[crimson glacier]

Tell me what she can do

[knotty snow]

your the one that said "shit" ok

[strong tartan]

You're comparing San Fran aa to Shimakaze aa and you're surprised the difference is drastic?

[crimson glacier]

And it is. Wow you learned

[knotty snow]

She has better AA then most ign ships

[vale spindle]

which can still be shit

[knotty snow]

bruh I literally said I swapped out for more AA and you said they are shit

[finite crag]

not a high bar to cross

[keen sable]

how does SF, Brem, Balt get to 470 AA anyway...2 AA radars?

[knotty snow]

mine doesnt even have AA radar

[crimson glacier]

That would make Shima be 470 too

[strong tartan]

Having higher aa than an IJN ship isn't that high of a threshold

[mystic topaz]

I think bro here is trying to make san fran work for him despite the difference

[knotty snow]

just bofors

[keen sable]

going to call you out on that then

[vale spindle]

san fran works as a good ship not as an aa ship

[crimson glacier]

San Fran is good, just shit aa

[vale spindle]

as i said you just need 1 hyper AA ship per fleet and the rest of the fleet's AA doesn't matter

[knotty snow]

I know that but he said San Fran has shit AA but it actually have better AA then most ign ships that were bottlenecking my fleet

[vale spindle]

that difference is irrelevant

[knotty snow]

I just said I swap out for more AA and it worked but then he goes in and said her AA is shit

[stark quiver]

Just because one is better than the other doesn’t make it particularly good

[vale spindle]

cause you aren't addressing the right issue...

[crimson glacier]

Thats not even true

There isn't a bottleneck, you just make shit up

[ivory linden]

man just start working on pr4 ships if you havent already. there's anchorage w very good aa and other good ships. its not the end of the world if you dont complete world 13

[crimson glacier]

How can you swap for more Aaa when you don't know what has AA

[vale spindle]

even without backreading im like 90% sure his current ship roster is enough or more than enough to clear w13 stop overloading people with information

[knotty snow]

ok you want me to show you how Shima is letting planes go by and Musashi eating 50% hp ???

[sweet delta]

Nah fam pr ships are fake and don't belong in a historical campaign

[crimson glacier]

Musashi takes the same dmg with San fran

[keen sable]

Brem and Balt are nowhere near 470 AA. your lies. not ours.

[ivory linden]

ahhh my bad then

[strong tartan]

You said your San Fran had 470 AA how is that physically possible

[knotty snow]

wait actually I misread

[crimson glacier]

we know

[knotty snow]

but Musashi still dies really fast

[strong tartan]

[vale spindle]

yes thats normal because she has damage redirection

[knotty snow]

??? Musashi doesnt move

[crimson glacier]

i doubt you have a single good AA in your fleet

[stark quiver]

Ain’t no way

[sweet delta]

Your pr4 advice would be good for anyone but this guy

[strong tartan]

Just show your fleet at this point idk why nobody has asked

[stark quiver]

They did

[sweet delta]

We saw it already hours ago

[strong tartan]

Oh they did

[finite crag]

he had his own thread actually

[crimson glacier]

this person just loves to lie and go in circles to waste time

[stark quiver]

Someone link the message

[knotty snow]

well out of this message I only have 1 hyper AA ship

[strong tartan]

Oh i should find that brb

[keen sable]

attempted fleet yes. they're still hiding their dock

[knotty snow]

did I not show all of it ???

you guys said the bottem portion are not needed

[ivory linden]

i just said something general cuz i still havent understood what is his problem or what he wants to do lol

[knotty snow]

bruh I just got Anchorage ok

cant get PR ships instantly

[barren tapir]

unicorn would fix that with her fat fighters

[strong tartan]

We know

[barren tapir]

wait is this boss or mob fleet

[crimson glacier]

anchor also has bad AA

[knotty snow]

mostly mob

[barren tapir]

then yeah unicorn solves all your problems. you can consider independence retro as well

[knotty snow]

is the dmg output of CVL worse than regular CV or no ???

[vale spindle]

you don't use unicorn for damage you use her for big support

[keen sable]

is the damage output of Ingraham worse than Shimakaze or no ???

[barren tapir]

your backline is dying to planes. fix 1 problem at a time

[knotty snow]

what about AA and overall utility ???

[knotty snow]

its just Musashi that dies... the carriers are fine

[strong tartan]

Cuz thats what musashi does, she redirects damage to her so your carriers can stay alive

[vale spindle]

if you have no way to heal musashi then she will die regardless
musashi dies very frequently if you don't have a way to heal her due to damage redirection

[barren tapir]

wouldnt musashi be better in boss fleet anyway

[knotty snow]

they said mob fleet

[barren tapir]

you can triple cv mob fleet in w13 if you prefer, solves aa issue by default

[knotty snow]

technically speaking then its best to not put Musashi in the flagship position ???

[barren tapir]

also are you hitting air supremacy cos that also helps lol

[knotty snow]

I am

[hollow gust]

This should be fun

[strong tartan]

? Shes still gonna get the same amount of damage cause she's gonna be eating it up no matter where she is in the formation

[knotty snow]

yeah but if your flagship dies then the whole fleet fails

[barren tapir]

well my thought is if musashi isnt doing anything but dying you might want to use some other ship there

[strong tartan]

Then don't let your flagship die

[barren tapir]

if something isn't working and you've fixed other aspects and it still is having trouble...gotta look at the something in question.

[hollow gust]

Want to test how amagi fairs next month for medium

[vale spindle]

try using a different ship than musashi then, might help for your case specifically

[knotty snow]

well I did fix it I just swapped out Musashi

but other people are wondering why I even swap it out

[barren tapir]

congratz
i am not sure why we had this discussion then

[knotty snow]

people are angry for me for not using a meta ship ???

[strong tartan]

Meta ships were never in the equation

[knotty snow]

meta I mean like top tier

[ivory linden]

no. they are angry because you dont want to be helped

[strong tartan]

Oh i read that wrong

[barren tapir]

other ppl advice is good to listen to but you still need to tailor it to your situation if something isn't working. advice is there as guidance not necessarily as a mandatory thing to follow or whatever

[vernal osprey]

FOr w14 boss, who should be the flag ship?

[vale spindle]

and thats how the conversation devolved to this point

[hollow gust]

Stigma you know how close Soyuz needs to be to the CVs?

[vernal osprey]

BIS

[wind hazel]

usually your bb

[knotty snow]

ok.

[strong tartan]

ok.

[vernal osprey]

biscuit Zwei or Sovetskya

[knotty snow]

tho I feel like its also some miscommunication... got confuse by what they mean bad or good

[wind hazel]

either works

[vernal osprey]

Kearsarge?

[sweet delta]

Assuming you meant sovetsky

[strong tartan]

No

[vernal osprey]

aight

[barren tapir]

there's 2 ways of looking at things
objective level: bad means bad, good means good
subjective level: if it works, it's good enough, if it doesn't work, it's bad

[inner idol]

What's the best set up for kronstadt?

[knotty snow]

yeah that

[vale spindle]

the standard CB setup

except to trigger the northern parliament gun restriction, its better to use the CL gun slot or the AA gun slot

[knotty snow]

tho if a BB is unver lets say 10 level to a CV... which one is tankier ??? I am just curious

[barren tapir]

for example, a lot of the ships recommended to newer players are objectively 'bad' when compared to every other ship, but they are good enough to help get a fleet going and progress, due to being easily accessible, cheap to get running, and passable for progression.

[plain saffron]

depends on the ship itself and what stage

[inner idol]

@vale spindle and what's the standard?

[plain saffron]

like if w13/15 there will be more plane so more AA stats help

[wind hazel]

here you go

[strong tartan]

Kronshtadt

[vale spindle]

something like this, except make sure you use ONE of these for the northern parliament equipment restriction

[wind hazel]

Kronokonokoshitantan

[knotty snow]

oh I just find it werid that its because my Musashi dies so fast... but on the boss fleet (musashi is not in it)... the carriers like Essex eats up like a ton of bombs but its still alive and kickin

[vernal osprey]

This good?

[strong tartan]

Yes but idk why she has the Nelson flag

[sweet delta]

Not the flags

[vernal osprey]

White shells?

[strong tartan]

Take that off and just put on another shell

[vernal osprey]

White or yellow

[sweet delta]

And not the CL gun

[strong tartan]

White

[vernal osprey]

nvm, white, yellow is for RN

[knotty snow]

is that Vanguard ???

[strong tartan]

No it's Bismarck

[inner idol]

@vale spindle nice I can actually build that

[vernal osprey]

The name's Biscuit what you think???

[knotty snow]

ok which UR ships can actually utilize their sig weapon ???

[sweet delta]

You're missing a question mark

[vernal osprey]

The what? Main gun?

[knotty snow]

is that a british question ???

[strong tartan]

What is sig weapon

[barren tapir]

it's this, i think?

[knotty snow]

the UR weapon that came with the UR ship on release

[hollow gust]

I modified the CV rld a bit and I managed to get under .10 for all three ships

[knotty snow]

like NJ with her MK7 gun and shima with her quintimple laucher

[strong tartan]

It's situational

[knotty snow]

and Musashi with acutal 460mm

[knotty snow]

whats the both valid target part ???

[finite crag]

completely situational

[barren tapir]

also, essex has higher AA which reduces plane damage (not crash dmg tho iirc)

[jaunty vault]

is there a limit on the price increase of the new dorm gifts

[finite crag]

and the small fact that essex is 12 levels higher causing her to take 24% less dmg

[hollow gust]

After 8k it sells out, you can't buy any more

[barren tapir]

level your ships damn

[jaunty vault]

fuck

[sweet delta]

Actually it's only 6% for 12 levels for plane crash damage

[knotty snow]

wait there is that as well ???

[vale spindle]

everyone is a valid target unless their skill says they aren't
when a plane flies past and does damage to your main fleet, its random which ship takes the plane damage since all ships are valid targets
if you use musashi, instead of random she basically always takes damage since everyone is a valid target her skill forces her to take the damage

[vernal osprey]

This for Boss fleet, good?

[jaunty vault]

so how do you increase affinity

[strong tartan]

You love them ❤️

[hollow gust]

Weekly gives stuff , very slow

[strong tartan]

It's something

[barren tapir]

basically musashi decided she'd be a hero and make everything target her over the other main fleet ships above 40% hp

[strong tartan]

Oh wait nevermind it's good

[knotty snow]

well is there any other guns that NJ can take besides her sig ???

[strong tartan]

Literally every other BB gun in the game

[vale spindle]

any BB gun?

[jaunty vault]

also someone should make a guide on all the locations of the collection clues stuff

[sweet delta]

Switch Guam and Anchorage

[vernal osprey]

Guam and Hakuryuu died last round

[sweet delta]

You're missing two question marks

[vale spindle]

sorry, im english fluent

[knotty snow]

wait what world is that for ???

[strong tartan]

W14

[fervent hearth]

W17

[hollow gust]

[vale spindle]

looks like chapter 14 or 15 but probably chapter 14 if i remember their question from earlier

[knotty snow]

so she is techinically more flexible than certain BB ???

[sweet delta]

I still don't understand how 125 guam can die to chapter 14 with Jeanne help

[knotty snow]

holy shit... lol

[vale spindle]

all BBs can use all BB guns

[strong tartan]

No ??? What every other bb... can equip every other bb gun

[finite crag]

just as flexible as any other bb? musashi is the odd ones out

[knotty snow]

yeah but I mean which other viable option

[vernal osprey]

Let me show you Guam's gear...and you can make final judgement

[knotty snow]

oh wait just Musashi ???

[strong tartan]

???😭

[finite crag]

musashi can only use ijn guns basically, you would know if you read the skill

[sweet delta]

Already saw it, the better question is how long did the battle take

[vale spindle]

read skills and you will see why certain ships are equipment restricted

[vernal osprey]

2 minutes more or less...

[sweet delta]

Yeah 14-3 boss should not take 2 minutes

[vernal osprey]

Let me retake the boss again

[sweet delta]

So it's main fleet and/or sub fleet issue

[knotty snow]

hold on I am a bit confused on some understanding

[strong tartan]

Oh we know

[vale spindle]

unecessary comments clog the channel and aren't helpful

[strong tartan]

Some ships have skills that either lock them to guns or give them specific buffs when using said guns

[knotty snow]

ok when you mean equipment restricted... do you mean she CANNOT at all take a certain nation guns or she CAN but its not viable ???

[vale spindle]

if i was a mod i would have banned half of the people who typed a message here within the past 6 hours

[vale spindle]

can but not viable
physical restrictions on which weapon you can put on a ship are based on the equipment type or the weapon itself

[strong tartan]

Can but not viable like sam said

[knotty snow]

ok there you go... when they said restricted I thought they mean cannot at all

[hollow gust]

Yay

[knotty snow]

ok I need to adjust to some peoples meaning

[strong tartan]

They mean that a ship would be weaker if they weren't using a preferred gun

[vernal osprey]

How big of a difference does it make for a chapter from "Threat: Lethal" to "Threat: Safe"

[vale spindle]

the game is very confusing and explanations are confusing too i understand

[sharp socket]

20% less damage taken

[vernal osprey]

I see, aight thx

[knotty snow]

so that also mean there are no other weapon thats powerful enough to copensate it then ???

[vale spindle]

when you safe a stage, the enemy is effectively 10 levels lower than what their level says they are

[sweet delta]

Like 36% less damage taken and 20% more damage dealt

[vernal osprey]

Oh that's huge

[vale spindle]

yes

i got the number wrong my bad

[vernal osprey]

So clear and make threat safe first, then 3 star

[vale spindle]

yes thats a common strat for hard stages

[sharp socket]

is this not 20% less damage taken

[sweet delta]

It is

[vale spindle]

its that plus all ships are effectively 10 level lower

[strong tartan]

Well yes

[vale spindle]

they both stack with each other
its the 10 levels lower that gives you +20% dmg dealt and -20% damage taken, then the threat level also gives you -20% damage taken, so they both stack to a higher percentage of reduced damage taken

[vernal osprey]

Which means more damage dealt and faster to kill since lower hp

[hollow gust]

Does Renhex sheet consider for the rld buff from bb skills?

[barren tapir]

when you go from having a threat level to threat level 0 (safe) the enemy level in damage calculation is reduced by whatever the original level at lethal was (3, 5, 8, or 10). the additional damage reduction shown is multiplicative to level difference bonus

[vale spindle]

not sure if they have lower HP but yes to more damage dealt and faster to kill

[sharp socket]

i dont think it considers skills changing rld

[vernal osprey]

I see

[keen sable]

wait are we back to threat level levels are real levels and affect both damage dealt and damage taken?

[vale spindle]

read the threat level section on the combat wiki page
when i wrote that i double checked with thorin

the threat levels are ADDITIONALLY real levels only on safe; the damage reduction part the game tells you about is separate and stacks with this

[hollow gust]

Damn

Whelp my sync works for the entire duration of the fight at least

[vernal osprey]

Is JDA level 125 a big priority?

[hollow gust]

she is more used in late game , not super big prob

[vernal osprey]

I am in late game...

[hollow gust]

If you are late game then you have more then enough arrays to level waifu, much less Jeanne

[vernal osprey]

The dark blue arrays, the ones used to 125, I'm only missing 10 for her to ascend

[hollow gust]

How do you have so little

[undone plover]

I did ch15 with level 120 jda and it was fine
With eldridge being a thing I would leave her at 120 if u can get away with it

[vernal osprey]

Me with severe under level Eldridge

[vernal osprey]

I'd rather not talk about it, it's embarrassing

[raven marsh]

if i dont have eldridge am i fucked in late game

[hollow gust]

No? Shes niche asf, and there are other ships that do her job

[slow fox]

JdA benchwarmer now that EldKai exists.

[sweet delta]

We played late game for 1 years before Eldridge retro existed

[slow fox]

The goalkeepers keep on moving lategame with new content smh

[hollow gust]

W14 too easy now

[slow fox]

Very real I'm full autoing it with Brestfleet

[hollow gust]

Ply still got it

[wide mirage]

What's the most efficient node for farming exp ?

[hollow gust]

Just do 12-4

[wide mirage]

Yeah pretty efficient stage since i need a full fleet to actually clear it

[inland shoal]

Technically 11-1, but it has bad everything else and is only slightly better than sth like 12-4

[wide mirage]

I don't have much oil left so I'm trying to not run full fleets

[sharp socket]

12-4 has coins and cog chips, for marginally lower oil efficiency for xp compared to 11-1

[wind hazel]

they are oil capped maps, just full fleet them

[inland shoal]

/oilcap

In the early game it says

Just also don't focus on it in the late game

[frank pulsar]

full fleet better cuz oil cap is a thing

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[inland shoal]

I just confused the 2 oil commands, this is the one I wanted

[plain saffron]

does d3 boss have weird gimmick

i just saw an shan missile having stroke around the boss

[west lichen]

ok question, i know the game gives special packs depending on what level you achieve, what are those levels?

[inland shoal]

It's Akagi META right? Has some sort of shield with summoning the 2 ghosts, but other than that idk

[inland shoal]

You mean commander level? It's the number top left next to your name on main screen. Most of those packs are bad value though

[west lichen]

yeah no i know that what i am referring to is what are the level thresholds for those packs, im lvl 90 atm

[hollow gust]

Which one do you think would do more damage stigma?

[slow fox]

skypirate

[hollow gust]

Man this is very easy to sync up with Soyuz

Once I grab a few LA-9s then I can run vits ryuuseis instead of saiun for amagi

Oh this is def better lmao, I’m improving on my Helena CM timing

[inland shoal]

Oh the level packs are every 10 lvls up to lvl 80

[jaunty vault]

what level packs

oh

the gem shop thing

[wanton dawn]

If I can’t see the red exclamation mark (the story node) does that mean I’m done with op si and ready for reset next month?

[hollow gust]

, it desyncs in the end unfortunately, Amagi is still a bit too slow even with double Saiun

[spring bolt]

weird equip choice for helena cm... no hvar?

[hollow gust]

I was trying to test my timings for next month harby

[spring bolt]

i see

[hollow gust]

Whelp is def works for like 5 minutes, that’s nice

[jaunty vault]

this is the monthly reset time bar
just in case tho, go to a port and check the information tab

[inland shoal]

Uhh you to seem to be done with story yes. And the thing top left says you will reset in 2 days. I wouldn't say "ready" for reset though as it looks like you still have some stuff to do, like that stronghold and the arbiter

[jaunty vault]

also rip cause CN mode

[wanton dawn]

yea ikr....

[hollow gust]

Very impressive showing from amagi though in light

[wanton dawn]

it just says that it resets if i have completed the story

[wanton dawn]

ok ty:)

[jaunty vault]

opsi reset unlocks after ch4 completion, there's one more chapter
also the reason why I said to check your information tab

[wanton dawn]

where do i check how many chapters i have left?

[inland shoal]

Go to any map, then tap information on the bottom right

But since you have the arbiter icon I recon you are pretty much done

[jaunty vault]

the yellow button and its more like middle right

[civic crag]

Will AP refills convert to vouchers

[jaunty vault]

yeah that wasbmy thought process too

[civic crag]

So I should just use them all?

[inland shoal]

Well in port areas it is ig cuz of the port button

[jaunty vault]

AP refills turn to dust so yes
use them all

[civic crag]

Ok

[wanton dawn]

thank you:))

[hollow gust]

I wonder if I should try Skyraider on Nahkimov, she has a slightly weaker slot

[wanton dawn]

I think this means I’m done right…? With story at least. I still got quests

[hollow gust]

Do feel like amagi is better then nano and haku with nahkimov tho lol . Much easier to run

[undone heath]

It seems like there are 3 scans, the launches hit them, but there is still no damage. What's wrong?

[solemn marlin]

Just wanted to confirm: Bismark Zwei doesn't get the stat boosts from Oathin normal Bismark, right?
Just thd ability to share the Oath skin?

[sweet delta]

Correct

[undone plover]

She doesnt get the oath skin either
U have to oath bismarck zwei herself to get the skin on her

[hollow gust]

Why tf are there so many +12

[sweet delta]

1. Your Gear isn't +13
2. Bf109g sucks here
3. You have low tech

[hollow gust]

My eyes are bleeding 😭😭

[undone heath]

What fighter should I use then?

[civic crag]

For harbiter should I try to time my abilities to avoid the shield

[wanton dawn]

Is it correct to buy out the shops?

[hollow gust]

This or LA-9

[storm heron]

you should frontload as much as you can, deal damage before shield active

[undone heath]

I want to one shot meta now, I have not time for farm gold parts and techs

[shell willow]

me too

[sweet delta]

Too bad then

[rain bobcat]

[undone heath]

I'm not lucky for la

[hollow gust]

Not gonna happen this meta unless you start leveling your amagi lmao

[spring bolt]

you won't make it, September is ending soon, opsi will reset.
buy important stuffs only, like gold plates, rainbow prints

[wanton dawn]

ok ty:)

[hollow gust]

Amagi diff

She single handily made Nagato meta trivial

[sinful escarp]

deym thats a lot

[spring bolt]

implac damage is way too low, better run amagi and use mog for oneshot

[uneven badger]

is jeanne d arc good?

[hollow gust]

Good for endgame yes

[uneven badger]

i see

[hollow gust]

Amagi shinano implacable is my prob gonna be most consistent, don’t need to worry about mog getting fucked . Although all Amagi comps have like a 95% wr, honestly doesn’t matter

[south sequoia]

how consistent is amagi mog set up

oh nvm

[dusk maple]

Semi consistent

[spring bolt]

consistent? i don't have la9 to test but without one, implac needs to rely on helena proc to oneshot... that's not consistent to me...

[sweet delta]

There is no 95% win rate fleet

[sweet delta]

I reset a few time for 1 scan implacable today, it may be around 90% wins for me

[hollow gust]

Im like 49/50 right now lmao

[sweet delta]

You got lucky

[dusk maple]

Lucky

[hollow gust]

For 50 battles in a row

[sweet delta]

That's not unlikely

[vernal osprey]

Sorry but just to make sure, Mob fleet is SOLELY for clearing mobs right?, while Boss fleet is ONLY used for bosses and to not touch a mob right? So in a way, Mob fleet clears all mobs even if they already have 0 ammo right? Or am I wrong?

[hollow gust]

I think I lost like 3 times in the past two weeks

[sharp socket]

yes yes yes no

[sweet delta]

That's usually the way

[spring bolt]

implac with la9?

[vernal osprey]

Aight then

[verbal thistle]

What's la9?

[hollow gust]

67/70 is still pretty nice

[hollow gust]

PR7 fighter

[sharp socket]

if 0 ammo is too hard you can do it until safe and then get 3rd star on safe

[civic crag]

Other than shop where do I get t3 ordnance reports

[verbal thistle]

Oh, thanks.

[sharp socket]

craft up t2 ordnance

[civic crag]

I can do that?

[sharp socket]

it does not drop from anywhere

[vernal osprey]

These Hakuryuu gear good?

[civic crag]

How do I get more t2 ordnance then

[sharp socket]

farm more, they drop from many places

[hollow gust]

A lot to improve on

[civic crag]

Do they drop from hidden

[undone plover]

Yes but t2 is used for a lot of good gear and the conversion rate isnt the best
So make sure u craft the essential gear that needs t2 first

[vernal osprey]

Tell, everything EXCEPT gear lab

[hollow gust]

That fighter is dog water

[undone plover]

Shops, abyssals and cat nodes

[ivory linden]

abyssal zones/hidden zones/cat nodes and the shop

[civic crag]

Ok thanks

[spring bolt]

lucky you im still 0+24

[sharp socket]

gearlab has many good planes

[vernal osprey]

I am not farming and giving hours to OpSi...never again...

[hollow gust]

I don’t like implacable comp when I used it, went back to Alsace

[sharp socket]

just auto it then

[vernal osprey]

Auto what? tapping enemies?

[undone plover]

There are ways to make opsi grind take less time
U can auto 99% of it pretty much

[sharp socket]

buy logger and hidden logger, eat AP boxes and auto search all explorable and hidden

[finite crag]

The 2 loggers basically enables you to not even look at the screen once while opsi is clearing itself

[sharp socket]

you can minmax more by stopping for akashi for more AP boxes if you like

[vernal osprey]

ANyways, which fighter is dogwater? the Pirate one or Breguet?

[sweet delta]

Neither

[hollow gust]

Breguet isn’t a fighter

[sharp socket]

even stronghold can be autoable if your fleet is built well

[sweet delta]

It's decent and should pass 14-3 without big problems

[vernal osprey]

Wait are you talking about the Dive bomber then?

[vernal osprey]

I'll try it out on monday (Monthly reset, would not want waste)

[finite crag]

Yea its in it voucher shop

[civic crag]

Is it worth crafting the royal navy CA gun

[hollow gust]

it’s not bad for your unzen

[civic crag]

I don’t have unzen but I have Hindy?

[jaunty vault]

which one

[civic crag]

Like in terms of resources would I want to craft something else

[jolly wasp]

After getting all "must get" from guild shop,should I get their replica? Or just use bullins

Portland, Penny, Unicorn, hellena, I got them here

[jaunty vault]

either works but prioritise T4 plates

and use leftover tokens for dupes if you plan to buy them

[sweet delta]

Priority's the gold retrofit carrier

[hollow gust]

U should really join a guild

2k is broke asf

[jolly wasp]

The t3 retrofit?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[jolly wasp]

I'm still banging the door of my old guild

[jaunty vault]

id also buy the gold skill books

[hollow gust]

[atomic abyss]

just go find a guild in #1246721562741178410

[jaunty vault]

ender did you know res still visits gph

[atomic abyss]

are you asking me or telling me

[jaunty vault]

did you know

[jolly wasp]

I have nostalgia with my old guild

[jaunty vault]

its actually both

[atomic abyss]

i know he comes here less often

that's about it

[jaunty vault]

nostalgia shouldn't be a limiting factor to your progress but you do you

[storm heron]

if I finished pr5, but only have 1 plygun, is it okay to convert ply bps to 3600 protocore?

[atomic abyss]

save them for her fs5...?

[jaunty vault]

id save enough for FS5 first

[storm heron]

but there would be faces later on no?

[sweet delta]

Why not convert the earlier seasons catchups

[storm heron]

newb mistake, did catchup when finishing pr1-4

[eternal basalt]

How to unlick the "bath" comnon room?

[storm heron]

I need the second plygun

[jaunty vault]

lvl4 affinity im pretty sure

[inland shoal]

You don't, there's only cutscenes in there atm afaik

[sweet delta]

But you're going to pr7 or 6 instead of 5

[eternal basalt]

She's stuck at 3

[storm heron]

Huh I am apparently 34 bps away from fsV plymouth

[jaunty vault]

you'll also learn that the cost of the coin gift increases

[storm heron]

Sirius is not event limited right?

[jaunty vault]

she is perma

[storm heron]

Like the private dorm

[finite crag]

Buy her flowers

[eternal basalt]

Not spenfing coin on Serius

[inland shoal]

Well dw cuz lvl 4 doesn't unlock bath as room anyway

[eternal basalt]

Cooper lied to me

[jaunty vault]

you get the cutscene

and it appears as an icon on the map

[jolly wasp]

U got a point well, if my old guild is full, than Im looking a new one

[eternal basalt]

~~Thorin lied to me ~~

[jaunty vault]

does your old guild not have a discord server or something where you could ask around

[loud cedar]

My understanding is both of these gold planes suck, right? Then what do I do with them, just scrap?

[jaunty vault]

you could scrap them

[loud cedar]

Thank ya

[hollow gust]

~~Scrap that shitty mag quint too ~~

[inland shoal]

Wdym it appears as icon on the map?

[jolly wasp]

Check Sam scrap guide at bot channel

[jaunty vault]

its gone now

[loud cedar]

Oh, appreciate it

[jaunty vault]

scrap guide is by traneptora formerly bombzen

[jaunty vault]

guess it was only for the cutscene

[soft dagger]

whose barrage and what epuipment changed weapon scaling coef?

[inland shoal]

For example most bombs have a scaling coef of 0.8
Listing all barrages that aren't 1 would take way too long

[soft dagger]

gotcha, thank you

[inland shoal]

Just check this for barrages https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine