gameplay-help

[blazing shale]

But the saiuns are technically better than the ryuuseis for dmg?

[atomic abyss]

the opposite

vit-2 mode change > ryuusei > ju d-4 > saiuns
in terms of dmg

on the other hand

saiun > ju d-4 > ryuusei > vit-2 mode change
in terms of rld speed

so you choose the TBs that sync the best

[blazing shale]

Ah, I see

[atomic abyss]

in an **ideal **world ofc, you place the strongest TBs on Amagi and Shinano

but then you will need beacons so

[blazing shale]

What'd be your build for that fleet? And what was the calc site called again?

[atomic abyss]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

i personally dont have impla
but reload tech and even cats also a factor and may make certain arrangements possible when they would not be otherwise

[sharp socket]

+13 changes timing compared to +10?

[blazing shale]

Oh yeah, I forgot about the tech pts

[boreal wagon]

it doesnt thats why i asked

[plain saffron]

hi

[opaque gate]

what is a torpedo squadron? swordfish skill looks good

[shell willow]

bunch of planes that drop torpedo bombs

[atomic abyss]

we talking about ark royal here?

[opaque gate]

swordfish 818 any good? for the skill

[plain saffron]

there's ship that can do it without needing the plane

[opaque gate]

thanks

[atomic abyss]

garbage

[plain saffron]

while doing good dmg and allow you to use other plane instead

isn't swordfish used to be good when we have no option

[atomic abyss]

nagami, that's pre avp era

[plain saffron]

yes

[atomic abyss]

aka the formi era

[plain saffron]

you remember formi i remember ark centaur

[sharp socket]

just use normal options, barracuda/wyvern for mobbing and converging torp for bosses

[plain saffron]

if you want slow use implacable/avp > ark

[versed sentinel]

is it better to use ju d4 than to ryusei if i dont have a slow support?

[wet prairie]

Ngl no slow I would rather just use parallel and hope some hit

[sharp socket]

if no slow then use normal torp bomber imo

[atomic abyss]

doesn't matter

[versed sentinel]

oh okay

[sharp socket]

some hitting will be better than none hitting

[versed sentinel]

which ones would you recommend

[plain saffron]

depends on content

"general" use parallel if you know if the boss move or not or time when they stop you don't need slower/stopper

[wet prairie]

You can’t always 100% predict boss movements

[plain saffron]

90% is good enough

and that's only if you're lagging

[wet prairie]

nagato moves 2 pixels dodging all your torps

[plain saffron]

well that's because you launched when she's in moving state

[versed sentinel]

yeah i was asking for general so ill just use parallels ig

[plain saffron]

each boss have fixed pattern like
-move random 2s
-move to x,y
-stay still for 5s
And so on

though nowadays we have stopper that also have good dmg we don't need to do it anymore

[boreal wagon]

wasnt p much every boss predictable

[plain saffron]

yep

[inland shoal]

Not necessarily if you used slows etc.

I mean still predictable in a way, but the pattern changed a bit

[boreal wagon]

i more so meant their base movement but

[elfin hollow]

@atomic abyss what happens with farming 30k?

[atomic abyss]

UR bulin

[elfin hollow]

imdoing it rn just was wondering

[atomic abyss]

you get a UR bulin as a milestone reward for hitting 30k event currency

[elfin hollow]

my amagi needs one more

[rain bobcat]

the free ring only JP yes?

[atomic abyss]

yes, EN already got ours in Aug

[rain bobcat]

no I mean the download milestone thing

not the actual anni ring

[inland shoal]

No, CN also gets it afaik. For EN stay tuned™

[rain bobcat]

I see, ty

[jolly wasp]

i just got Peter Strasser, is she gud ?

[still nest]

How to see when did I start playing the game?

[whole crypt]

app update and 3D dorm coming next maint?

[deft wraith]

Is Intrepid a good ship?

[deft wraith]

Yes. but she could be slow sometimes at mid game. But strong dive bombers too if you upgrade her

I have her too

[jolly wasp]

hmm, so i cant used her now , since need investment

[deft wraith]

Ah I see and understandable

[wind hazel]

there's nothing special about peter, bench her for now

[jolly wasp]

I got 2 CV, that i cannot use early game

[soft raft]

nothing too exciting

[deft wraith]

I also Got Both Soryu and Hiryuu though

[soft raft]

She's kinda scuffed
She's trying to be a budget AvP but fails at it

[deft wraith]

But I mainly use Tennessee as a flagship in my fleet

[jolly wasp]

She already call herself "Unfinish Graf Zeppelin Class"

[soft raft]

Moderately decent post-retrofit
but I wouldnt really go thru the effort to do that early game when there are higher priority retrofits

[deft wraith]

I also changed her Equipment too to make her even stronger lol

[soft raft]

You should give this a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[atomic abyss]

tennessee is one of the worst BBs in the game... - yes worse than white rarity ones

please use pennsylvania instead

[still nest]

How to open akashi message when that goes off? The "you started your voyage blablabla"

[deft wraith]

Oh alright then I'll try

[atomic abyss]

that only appears when you have left the game for a long time

[deft wraith]

Also is London good too?

[atomic abyss]

only decent with her expensive retrofit, so not worth

[deft wraith]

Because I got her Out of nowhere.

[atomic abyss]

read this

[still nest]

I see thank you, btw where can I see the patch notes of the upcoming maintenance?

[rain bobcat]

wait for it tom

[frank pulsar]

shropshire retrofit is identical and cheaper
both are decent dps, nothing amazing

[plain saffron]

who's tom

[rain bobcat]

shrop is basically london retro

[plain saffron]

ouh tomorrow

[hollow ridge]

my first ever UR and thats gonna be mlb, should I?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[wild oyster]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

you should as you correctly have, work on 1 UR at a time

[hollow ridge]

btw i used my oath ring on her, any worth it since i later notice she doesn't even have a oath skin lol

[atomic abyss]

ring is for waifu first

[hollow ridge]

then i made a good choice then, i still got 1 ring left so might save for musashi rerun

[tacit harbor]

I got both shimakaze and Amagi(CV) who would more worth to mlb first?

[atomic abyss]

amagi

shimakaze is one of the lowest priority

[hollow ridge]

just how powerful is amagi with mlb?

[wild oyster]

I have a feeling that shell get it one day

[atomic abyss]

as with most URs, one of the best ships in the game

[hollow ridge]

real question is can she top my helena?

[atomic abyss]

helena isnt even a dps

[hollow ridge]

oh, damm, my helena was carrying me all this time

[finite crag]

nor is helena a main fleet ship so why are you comparing the two

[atomic abyss]

if your helena is getting mvp, something is very wrong with your fleet

[hollow ridge]

she is mvp lol

[atomic abyss]

backliners should beat frontliner dps with ease in most cases

[hollow ridge]

should i show my gears? tell me if its wrong cuz i just see numbers and i equip them

[soft raft]

and even ignoring the hulltype, they both do very different things

Amagi is stonks damage and Helena is primarily a debuffer

[atomic abyss]

im willing to bet it's the gears and lack of limit breaks

[soft raft]

Unicorn retro be like:

[atomic abyss]

but yes, do show them

[hollow ridge]

here lol

[jolly wasp]

Akagi and Kaga also drop at 3-4, wow...

[eager mulch]

ok

[atomic abyss]

that is the only place they drop though

[finite crag]

noob trap

[atomic abyss]

not like they're worth

[jolly wasp]

AL is confusing me with rarity not rarity ..

[atomic abyss]

in the early game, high rarity are all traps

[hollow ridge]

and this is my mlb amagi, tell me if i should exchange some gear parts with my helena i posted above cuz she was my mvp:

[soft raft]

some high rarity ships (namely a majority of SRs) are also bad due to being released at a earlier time when the powercreep threshold was lower

[atomic abyss]

firstly, the drone is pretty shit

[hollow ridge]

oh

[atomic abyss]

secondly, amagi cant use any of the gears helena is using right now

thirdly, that's pretty decent poverty wise in terms of planes

[hollow ridge]

i can replace them or swap, lol

[hollow gust]

Could get purple barracuda and corsairs

[soft raft]

(well technically she can mostly use the same auxes, but like why would you lol)

[atomic abyss]

im pretty sure amagi cant use autoloaders or hedgehogs

[hollow ridge]

so what gears and how to get them for amagi to shine? cuz i got no clue about this gear stuffs and planes lol

[atomic abyss]

what goose said here

[soft raft]

I mainly meant Washing machine and toolbox

[atomic abyss]

purple barracuda or purple tenzan > purple avenger

[hollow ridge]

what stage does that give?

[finite crag]

just open as many boxes as you can

[atomic abyss]

farming gear from maps is a bad idea, open your purple/gold tech boxes

[hollow ridge]

ok

[finite crag]

early on boxes will be your lifeline

[weak turret]

what happens if I buy more meta crystals for hiei meta than I need? What happens if I buy all 4 crystals now and another hiei drops?

[finite crag]

gets converted into the currency

[tacit harbor]

Which priority ships should I mainly focus on? Any recommendations

[soft raft]

gets converted into META shop currency

[weak turret]

ok thx

[finite crag]

in the meta shop thing

[hollow ridge]

also btw, which to priortise in terms of retrofit? my unicorn or ur amagi?

[atomic abyss]

friederich de gross or anchorage first

[soft raft]

FdG > All of PR4 > At least Plymouth and Brest > Everyone else

[atomic abyss]

most ships dont have retrofits,

[finite crag]

amagi doesnt have a retrofit

[tacit harbor]

Thanks appreciate it

[atomic abyss]

you should have retrofit unicorn first, long before helena

[half plover]

is pr5 catchup on harbin worth or should I just wait for coin up

[eager mulch]

wake me up when amagi cv retrofit drops

[soft raft]

Unicorn > Portland > Z23/Jav/Laffey

Also not all ships have retrofits, No URs have retrofits but there are 4 SR->UR retrofits

[hollow gust]

Start from the bottom

[hollow ridge]

in my inventory, i see this, anything good for amagi?

[finite crag]

those are skins

[soft raft]

that's just gear skins
purely cosmetic stuff

[atomic abyss]

these are gear skins for aesthetics, not actual gear

[cobalt rapids]

wake up

[finite crag]

i mean it does say gear skin box

[faint cloud]

just save for collection

[hollow gust]

Meta for gear skins

[atomic abyss]

the non existent one

[finite crag]

chat is this real?

[atomic abyss]

hence why i said non existent

[hollow gust]

It's her event gear skin

Those two aux skins work together to create one animation

Renhex use it smh

[cobalt rapids]

i used it smh, birb disables the sun

[hollow gust]

No it doesn't

[hollow ridge]

theres purple boxes in my inventory, can i still compose further or nah?

[hollow gust]

Bird animation only starts after sun

[finite crag]

thats max open it

[soft raft]

nope

[hollow ridge]

ok

[whole crypt]

ball and birb are probably designed to cycle, you have weird periods where each doesn't really do anything if you only equip one

[eager mulch]

[hollow gust]

Renhex has skill issues even in aux skins

[deft wraith]

I can't escape away from McCall whenever I receive her always.

[eager mulch]

what?

[deft wraith]

What I meant is I always receive McCall

[eager mulch]

ok and?

[finite crag]

unfortunately we cant help with that

[whole crypt]

she's a common DD they're a dime a dozen

[deft wraith]

I can't get rid of her

[finite crag]

you can actually theres a retire tab

[whole crypt]

yes because she will keep dropping, as would other common DDs that are in the drop list

[deft wraith]

Alright but how do I retire the ship again?

[hollow ridge]

OK, finally done opening all the composed purple boxes and got this, so what's the best gear my amagi can equip given what I have in this images?

[finite crag]

go to build, on the left there should be a retire tab

[hollow ridge]

please help me, i got no knowledge on this gears or planes lol

[finite crag]

but use grey ships for enhancing

[deft wraith]

Oh okay and thank you so much. I can finally get rid of her

I'll try to Use Intrepid for some reason.

Since I don't have a good carrier ships

[hollow gust]

.

[whole crypt]

depending on your stage in the game Unicorn, Saratoga, Independence are all good picks

[deft wraith]

I'm too broke

[whole crypt]

too broke to what

[lone knoll]

is prinz eugen considered "bad" cuz she only tanks and deals 0 damage? at lvel 70 shes almost the same hp as portland + she has a very good defensive skill. Why is she ""bad"" ?

[deft wraith]

I'm not wasting my Wisdom Cubes tho

[inner delta]

you can get them from guild shop

[whole crypt]

Unicorn is guild shop, Independence is core shop, Saratoga is 4-1 drop or free bonus if you buy anything with money

[deft wraith]

The Carrier I always use was the Weser, Peter Strasser, and Uh Soryu and others.

[whole crypt]

and they cost you exactly 0 SR bulins

[deft wraith]

Isn't the Saratoga was in recharge pack?

[plain saffron]

she's ontainable whenver you bought anything total above or equal 0.99

[whole crypt]

is there even anything that costs less than that

[deft wraith]

Maybe I can try to earn some medals for Enterprise?

[hollow gust]

Prinz Eugen cost significantly more , her tankyness is not needed , she has much less damage then Portland . Portland is always recc because of the fact that she is extremely easy to max and rookie missions requires her to be used

[whole crypt]

you'll have enough if you keep playing, retiring excess rare or higher rarity ships

[livid wyvern]

I'm getting a pink screen flash whenever I finish a level in Azur Lane, like it's for 1 millisecond, what is doing that?

[knotty dome]

what is the 15-3 second boss like? i had a lot of trouble in 15-2 because the BBVs kept wiping my flagship

[cobalt rapids]

easier

[knotty dome]

do i still need washing machines on my backline?

[cobalt rapids]

nop

[lone knoll]

so she's overkill on ehp, I needed a 2nd tank so i built her and was impressed by her tanking

[finite crag]

rest assured nothing will ever delete your backline in 2s like 15-2 again

[whole crypt]

are you using BisZwei in that fleet

[livid wyvern]

No

[hollow gust]

Sure , but shes a walking wall, useless otherwise, much better to run a less tanky ship with utility and damage

[whole crypt]

then no idea

[knotty dome]

ok thanks

[lone knoll]

i dont have many options, other tahn her is saint louis who isnat tank or phoenix

I think for now its decent, im at w12 so its okay

[whole crypt]

where are you using this second fleet with this second tank

[hollow gust]

And haven't u been pulling on recent events ?

[lone knoll]

op siren

[lone knoll]

I have yes, i have the past 4 banners main units

[whole crypt]

I guess you can cope with her boss tanking

[hollow gust]

Cause you have been getting ships like Pittsburg

[lone knoll]

I dont have her sadly

[hollow ridge]

is this gear decent? this the best i have in my inventory, also what's her best in slot gears for her to really shine?

[cobalt rapids]

its terrible

[finite crag]

gold doesnt mean good

[lone knoll]

i didnt pull for the elites or other sr's (i didnt know any better) but until now ive been using 1 fleet, so having a 2nd one helps a ton in op siren

[whole crypt]

somehow you managed to pick some of the worst for almost all of them

[deft wraith]

I'm stuck at the hard level.

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[zenith heron]

The only decent there sadly is your Auxilliary for Poverty ones (no need to stack them tho), the rest are not good...

[hollow gust]

How did you mess up with pictures

[dense eagle]

what is the best fleet for meta boss fights? (the ones like nagato meta etc) i know there isnt 1 fleet that is good for all/equipment cuz of armour types but the best in general cuz im too lazy to switch gear and fleets every time

[hollow ridge]

so what to do now, besides opening those boxes, grind and progress story stages for better gears? im at stage 7-1 now

[hollow gust]

Just run all URs if you are that lazy , cause you won't be doing damage if you are like that anyway

[whole crypt]

would you per chance have not checked the gear guide or gear reccs on tier list

[hollow ridge]

nah lol

[whole crypt]

which hard level

[zenith heron]

Would prefer your equipments to stay until lvl 6 or not upgraded at all, bcs purple mats are harder to get at your level

[hollow ridge]

ok thanks for the advice

[whole crypt]

going past +6 is fine if you're not spending it on trash gear

[cobalt rapids]

good poverty gear is fine to +10

[deft wraith]

Hold On let me check. Because I'm only level 40

[cobalt rapids]

u will even need to + ur gear, going with +0 gear wont get u far

[hollow gust]

Just copy this

[keen sable]

Event is good

[coral cairn]

So I finally crafted 3 tenrais. Can I switch off of PR4 or do I need to craft more? Also, what PR should I focus next

[deft wraith]

The 3-4 counterattack

[cobalt rapids]

looks like u overstayed ur welcome in 4

go to 5 next

[hollow gust]

4>5>6>7, and work on fdg in between

[coral cairn]

Oh well I needed haku fs5

[cobalt rapids]

5>7 focus then

[coral cairn]

Fdg done already

[lone knoll]

can these 2 fleets carry me in all of next month opSiren? imagine helena is reto

povery gear aswell

[coral cairn]

The other person suggested 6 in between, should I skip it instead?

[cobalt rapids]

serviceable, ull need to upgrade more if u wanna clear all opsi reward content

[cobalt rapids]

yeap

[lone knoll]

at 120 with max skills and some decent pieces it can be done tho right?

[hollow ridge]

this okay for now?

[cobalt rapids]

can be done with everything except harbiter

[hollow gust]

Looks like you finally copied it correctly

[hollow ridge]

lol, i was just never into planes tbh but i can in fact copy your build lol

[zenith heron]

Is good

[lone knoll]

so i can just spam arbiter in normal mode?

[hollow ridge]

so what to focus on now? i got around 10k event currencies saved up in shop

[soft raft]

keep grinding event till at least 30k pts

[finite crag]

if by spam as in leaving to heal and reentering to kill normal arbiter then yea

[hollow ridge]

priority?

[hollow gust]

Looks like you need more currency

[vast sparrow]

What good ships good for manual? I only know Shimakaze. (I mostly never do auto)

[hollow gust]

Arrays and Cogs , meta crystals for hiei , blueprints

[lone knoll]

nice, thats good to know, im guessing the 3 boss fleets help with killing arbiter, im on poverty 2 fleets only i cant do hard mode

[hollow gust]

Good auto ships are good for manual

[hollow ridge]

so no pheonix thingy?

[finite crag]

youre quite a ways off from challenging harby but dont worry about it hard arbiter doesnt give much anyways

[hollow gust]

Well that's cosmetic , if you grind enough sure get it

[turbid shell]

do Kaga BB work for Amagi skill requirement?

[cobalt rapids]

she does

[hollow gust]

Yes but why?

[lone knoll]

what does it give? normal one gives a ur bp, why even do hard mode ? for the difficulty?

[soft raft]

i think so
but Kaga BB is pretty average so why would you want to use her

(Yes ik there's Amagi CV's skill for that but it's not a must)

[finite crag]

hard just gives a few more prints and vouchers its a bunch of nothingburger dw about it

[turbid shell]

i only have bb version
or maybe i should use other ship instead

[hollow gust]

Amagi skill 3 sucks

[hollow gust]

Just use better ships

[cobalt rapids]

akagi muse is a good activator for fast clearing in opsi mobbing

[lone knoll]

I will try normal arbiter now then, i hope my lvl95 prinz eugen does not die

[turbid shell]

akagi muse + amagi cv?

[eager mulch]

she is going to die

[hollow gust]

Using one of the best CVs on opsi mobbing

[finite crag]

even if you only deal 1% hp each fight you can fight it 100 times so

[lone knoll]

even with the augment?

[eager mulch]

yes

[lone knoll]

im so fucked

[cobalt rapids]

but not helpful in other places

[eager mulch]

did you ping me

[turbid shell]

are the vanilla Akagi and Kaga is so outdated now?

[lone knoll]

wrong emoji

[cobalt rapids]

very much

[soft raft]

Boss lvl is 130
have fun trying to get a lvl 95 eugen to live, even with max adapts

whopping 35 lvl disadvantadge

[lone knoll]

i have not yet learned how much lelve difference makes, im guessing there's a formula for that

[cobalt rapids]

using the best cv for mobbing, strongholds and abyssals aka 99% of opsi content

[finite crag]

every level over or under youre dealing and taking 2% less or more dmg

[lone knoll]

thats why i see people with 125 portland

[finite crag]

idk about that

[cobalt rapids]

125-ing portland isnt a good investment, shes a transitional ship

[finite crag]

i wouldnt 125 portland

[lone knoll]

so im taking an extra70% damage from arbiter lmao

[finite crag]

caps at 50%

so youre less fucked but still fucked

[eager mulch]

renhex how good would a fleet of amagi-chan, amagi-cv and akagi muse be

[lone knoll]

i guess i can power level her... but op ends in 6 days

only have these nodes left

[finite crag]

but as i said you can back out and heal then come back and just chip away at arbiter's hp

[finite crag]

do this as many times as you need until it dies

[lone knoll]

leave the battle? i cant let them reach 0 hp right

[finite crag]

you can

[cobalt rapids]

it would be healess

[hollow gust]

You are thinking too hard, just do it . This month is heavy so easy time

[lone knoll]

so theya ll die, i go to port heal -> back to arby

[soft raft]

normal difficulty arbiter's HP doesnt reset if you quit to go heal

[muted wind]

you do actually need to either time out or let them sink for the damage to count also

[whole crypt]

go to port to heal, go kill something else to restore resolve then go back to arby
do you even have enough adapts

[lone knoll]

wait why is it unavalible, do i need to clear all zones around it?

[muted wind]

did you finish the story?

[lone knoll]

188 all

[whole crypt]

arb is 203/203/156

[cobalt rapids]

farm to 203/203/156

[lone knoll]

is there an optimal way of farming adap, all the adap rewards are gone on the map, do i just spam random maps and get lucky?

[hollow gust]

Nah just do those stages

[whole crypt]

for a start clearing this already gives you at least 5-10 of the heart thing

[cobalt rapids]

clear all ur shiny icons

[lone knoll]

ok thats the only one left

[cobalt rapids]

by the end u should have enough adapts

[lone knoll]

ill try it when 208 adap then thanks

[whole crypt]

then clear other shit, and if you're done clearing other shit then repeat a C5 zone

[lone knoll]

after all shiny icons gone -> c5 spam

got it

[finite crag]

basically

[lone knoll]

opSiren is the msot fun i had playing this game so far ngl

[soft raft]

did you finish the OpSi story + the practice arbiter fights yet?

[lone knoll]

i did finish one

[soft raft]

huh wdym by you finished one

[lone knoll]

are there more practive arbiter fights?

nvm

[whole crypt]

there you go

[lone knoll]

im doing that now then

[muted wind]

yeah, expect a couple of those, it's almost free materials

[lone knoll]

last one i did was hard for me ngl

[cobalt rapids]

nope, story is a onetime thing
afterwards theres 3 arbiters that rotate each month
and each month they have different modifiers

[lone knoll]

so next month no more story just clearing everything, also what happens to stars?

[night crow]

Are there rewards for killing every enemy in OpSi Strongholds or not ?

[cobalt rapids]

stars remain, also in order to rotate arbis u need to finish story

[lone knoll]

im too late for that i think

[cobalt rapids]

the reward is auto doing it for u

[whole crypt]

there's like 6 days

[spring delta]

I'm stumped I've been trying to finish 14-4 for 2 hours and can't survive long enough to destroy all fleets and the boss

For the ones who beaten 14-4 whats ideal mob and boss fleets plz I'm desperate

[lone knoll]

I tried a couple of abyssal zones failed every single one

[hollow ridge]

someone said helena isn't a dps but she's like mvp for all my stage clears, is my helena build wrong?

[cobalt rapids]

these numbers mean unicorn and nelson didnt launch and amagi just sent out her birb barrage

[whole crypt]

auto already kills everything... well almost everything

[muted wind]

this looks like you kill all enemies before the rest of the dps can kick in

[finite crag]

well the fight isnt even long enough for your backline to attack idk what you expect

[hollow gust]

[soft raft]

Her DPS isnt too terrible for a CL
when they say that she's not a DPS, it's more like her role in a fleet isnt focused around DPS

If she tops MvP, most likely that your whole backline didnt have the time to launch their barrages/salvos/airstrikes

[spring delta]

Fleet 1 mob?

[night crow]

Yeah but mt fleets are not strong enough to do auto for the bosses so I end up just doing stronghold in manuel

[cobalt rapids]

nice unactivated shinano

[spring delta]

Okay will try this thank youuu!!!

[hollow gust]

Doesn't need to be

[whole crypt]

auto until stuck then swap

[cobalt rapids]

haku is jsut better then

[night crow]

Oh, never actually thought to do that

[cobalt rapids]

@whole crypt are u rly calling haku < unactivated shinano

[muted wind]

the butterfly barrage probably still trumps what haku does, but that's kinda specific for late chapters

[whole crypt]

not so much the barrage but is that Hakuryuu going to be FS'd

[soft raft]

that butterfly barrage is a joke

[finite crag]

the one that deals negative dmg?

[cobalt rapids]

the one that reveals her

[muted wind]

i remembered it doing more, yeah, the numbers are bad, sorry

[eager mulch]

the one that’s pretty

pretty bad

[jaunty glade]

I just got anchorage, first shipyard ship with full blueprints to take her to dev 30. Couple of questions

1. Fate simulation, do I priortize this for anchorage?
2. Can I get blueprints for coins for fate simulation or only for development levels?

[cobalt rapids]

1. no
2. yes

[soft raft]

1. Hers is pretty whatever, it mainly just adds a line of torps to her barrage
2. Yes

[jaunty glade]

ty, follow-up to 2- how?

[finite crag]

the same way you did before

[soft raft]

^

[whole crypt]

you can start spending coins once you're out of prints

[jaunty glade]

never did it before

[silk helm]

is there a patch notes for the next maintenance

[keen sable]

Yes, yes

[wind oxide]

jp will get a free ring? will it also come to en or is it exclusively for jp?

[keen sable]

Yes, no, yes

[soft raft]

wait the ring is JP exclusive? boo

[whole crypt]

they may or may not find an excuse to hand it out on CN/EN but as it stands that's for JP

[wind oxide]

owh, that abit disapointing

[plain saffron]

it's for 11 million JP player count celebration

but yeah usually EN find an excuse

[whole crypt]

well download, probably not 11M DAU/WAU/MAU

[plain saffron]

MIAU?

[keen sable]

I'll just add that not prioritizing fs5 for anchorage is a really terrible idea. Like you don't want agir and haku kind of bad

[weak turret]

How does the CV Amagi compare to the other UR carriers?

[cobalt rapids]

similar to the other ijn ur carriers

[eager mulch]

similar to the other ijn ur carriers

[signal pollen]

Is there a way to sync nj barrage to Helena 16 second? I feel like she fires 1-2 seconds slower than 16 seconds

[cobalt rapids]

nj barrage is on salvo so just sync her gun to helena

[eager mulch]

this should sync with sg radar helena

[signal pollen]

This is kinda a dumb question but why does she fire slower than Bismarck zwei

[eager mulch]

why does who fire slower than nj

Bz has a rld buff

[keen sable]

NJ has a rld buff...

[cobalt rapids]

coz bz is faster by virtue of her stats and rld skills

[eager mulch]

bz has a stronger rld buff

[keen sable]

I think you misunderstand helena skill entirely

[eager mulch]

170 +15% vs 172 +10%

[soft raft]

Helena 16s with SG radar only happens once

[jaunty glade]

so you are saying I should? I can do it passively daily so it isn't a big lift

[signal pollen]

It’s just after 16 seconds with sg radar, 40% chance to activate, enemies take 40% more right?

[soft raft]

Only once
Afterwards it's the usual 20s

[eager mulch]

Sg radar helena scans at 16s, 36s, 56s etc

[cobalt rapids]

sg radar changes only first scan to 16s

[cobalt rapids]

are u focusing season 4 ?

[jaunty glade]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

then its fine

its prob better at this point to focus 5 tho

[keen sable]

Yes you should fs5 anchorage before other pr4. It removes her from the pool, increasing agir and haku rate.

[cobalt rapids]

but if u alr were on s4 focus continue it

[jaunty glade]

focus 5, and catch up on fdg or izumo?

[cobalt rapids]

only use catchup for protocores ( seasons 1 - 3 )

if u are doing focus 5 ull want more

[jaunty glade]

i see... ok

[cobalt rapids]

how long have u been focusing on season 4 ? if u want u can open a thread and i can explain in more detail

[eager mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205650004199346276/1278022957335056497/TinyAmagiDance.gif

[keen sable]

Are you suggesting skipping agir and haku for plymouth and waiting for agir fs5 + coining?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[keen sable]

I agree

[knotty dome]

if my second boss fleet on 15-3 is ok on lethal auto (no subs or map airstrike), would it probably be ok in clearing mode auto safe?

[cobalt rapids]

on auto it will fight both but prob fine

[knotty dome]

im just going to manual it down to safe then use auto search then. thanks

[exotic ginkgo]

14-4 Lethal auto boss fleet? Is it possible to only use level 120 ships as the frontliner?

[vernal osprey]

Is Hiei META as trash as the other META or is she good?

[stark quiver]

given you have other thhings to make up for it yes, like tech, gear, and whatnot

[cobalt rapids]

as good as other gold METAs

[exotic ginkgo]

Then the tech and gear requirements?

[vernal osprey]

Ah, so it's a meh

[stark quiver]

there arent any requirements, throw on your better gear, 14-4 boss is just damage + survivability, mob needs asw

[cursive lark]

Maxed Cats too

[finite crag]

no?

[keen sable]

They clearly believe good metas are trash so hiei qualifies as trash. It's a relative answer for sure

Don't forget subs and oath

[stark quiver]

few people actually have maxed cats

basically, there are many things that can make up for not lvl 125, and you could honestly mix them up

[exotic ginkgo]

This frontline of mine melt like butter, they'll lose half HP for just 20 seconds in, reset doesn't matter.

[finite crag]

i think thats just because youre using less than ideal ships

[cursive lark]

Ofc, london

[hollow gust]

You got the 2nd least tanky CB, and two glass cannons

[keen sable]

Oath ✅

[cursive lark]

Isn't kawakaze kinda fine since dd + unaimed barrage?

[keen sable]

Now you just need subs and max cat

[atomic abyss]

well you do need a DD or at least an asw boat in w14, and kawa is one of the better DDs

[crimson glacier]

how does being a DD matter

[keen sable]

Kwkz isn't unaimed?

[atomic abyss]

but it's london is definitely not a ship for w14

[jolly wasp]

this is the event right? how to min-max grinding ? i stuck at b-1 though..

[exotic ginkgo]

I also tried Azuma, Kronshtadt and Drake (Brest is in the mob fleet), no help.

[atomic abyss]

wait

[crimson glacier]

all max limit break?

[inner delta]

do highest you can

[atomic abyss]

this is a boss fleet?

[spring delta]

@hollow gust I did it
Thank u lots made it past 14-4

[crimson glacier]

yes he was talking about boss fleet

[keen sable]

Daily bonus push your levels outside

[atomic abyss]

holy shit that's bad

[jolly wasp]

okie dokie

[atomic abyss]

that's extremely bad for a boss fleet

[jolly wasp]

daily bonus?

[hollow gust]

Now just use it in w15, that fleet is ment for that anyway

[cursive lark]

Oh boss fleet, damn they wouldn't even survibe

[keen sable]

The x3

[jolly wasp]

i no see that times 3..

[atomic abyss]

only possible with ACTUALLY good ships

[spring delta]

💀 I've been so focused on 14 I completely forgot there's a 15 but okay 😭

[atomic abyss]

the 3x bonus is daily

i.e once a day

[jolly wasp]

ohh.. so one time, is enough lmao

[cobalt rapids]

yea i understood ur react

[jolly wasp]

hey, i unlocked research academy..

[atomic abyss]

ignore it for now

you wont have the resources for it where you're at

[keen sable]

It's very helpful but you need to reach b3 ideally. Hard to do that with event only. Hence for the next few days maximize bonus AND xp then go all in on event starting Thursday or friday

[sharp socket]

i found for me that 14-4 boss was easier with decent subs usage, maybe he can do accessible sub fleet

[jolly wasp]

ok, thanks alot, yeah im still behind Level and Gears to reach b3. i barely pass a-3 too..

[crimson glacier]

that applies for anything

[jolly wasp]

Me reading all this stuff which in english, urghhhhhh ....

[cursive lark]

Yeah, subs pretty much kills a wave of enemies, very significant especially if they are command ships that deals lot of damage

[sharp socket]

u96 from medal shop, u37 from merit shop, (gold) IB sub can work fine

[primal silo]

Which siren enhancement (adapt) is the most important?

[exotic ginkgo]

My subs empty there ammo on mobs...

[soft raft]

All of them

[sharp socket]

dont auto call subs then

only call subs on boss

[atomic abyss]

i think you have issues with both fleets, that subs alone wont fix anyways

[cursive lark]

You shouldn't use subs unless you are fighting the most difficult enemy nodes

Like when out of ammo or the boss fleet

[keen sable]

Turn off support

[exotic ginkgo]

Max them, you have to, and it's not difficult to do.

[sharp socket]

when you call them depends on you, personally i call them early into boss so that my frontline doesnt get melted as fast and i can get to boss with more hp

[cursive lark]

203 203 156

[exotic ginkgo]

I can't turn off, my mob fleet need it to pass to boss.

[keen sable]

0 healing is ok on narbiter but hard to get 203/203/0

[sharp socket]

then you need a better mob fleet

[lone knoll]

is there a guide to all opSi puzzles? i only find outdated videos on that

[cursive lark]

Wdym?

[keen sable]

Lazy people use TB skip

[inner delta]

you can just go left and right all the time until TB help you

[cursive lark]

I can help u if u make a thread

Just did the opsi chapters like a while ago

[keen sable]

You don't bring healing to hard stuff especially narbiter

[lone knoll]

do you know all of them? maybe i can document them

[exotic ginkgo]

Actually, I have to not just reset, but restart till I can finish mob with 5 2* battle.

[sharp socket]

delete

[atomic abyss]

yeah you have serious fleet issues

[soft raft]

Uh no don't do macros
Unless you want to be banned for breaking the game's TOS

[cursive lark]

Yeah I redid it by myself kinda recently

[atomic abyss]

also - yes, macros are tos bannable

[lone knoll]

im sorry for even bringing it up, just seems harmless but i get it

[primal silo]

The edits

[cursive lark]

I am in the raiceist re zero program, so I redid the painful opsi chapters

[sharp socket]

dunno if itll help but this is what i used for w14 mob and i didnt have to reset

[keen sable]

I have a few

[lone knoll]

can you show them?

[atomic abyss]

yeah that shouldn't be the case - sounds like you have huge fleet issues
let's see those fleets in a thread

[lone knoll]

would apreciate it, just want to speedrun opsi hidden zones

[exotic ginkgo]

This is my mob fleet.

[cursive lark]

I can't show them because I did them already, I can't go back

[sharp socket]

oh dear

[lone knoll]

oh yeah sorry i meant u did a document, ill do it eventually if i find all opf them on yt

[atomic abyss]

im not surprised

[cursive lark]

Oh no I didn't

[stark quiver]

At least Brest is d30

[atomic abyss]

it's a wonder how you even got thru 14-3

[soft raft]

Man that backline
Is that the boss fleet?

[atomic abyss]

mob lol

[soft raft]

💀
What is JDA doing on mob

[cursive lark]

Sad

[atomic abyss]

yeah you need massive fleet rebuilding

[soft raft]

Severe lack of damage and Unicorn retrofit exists

[exotic ginkgo]

This is the best working after a lot of trial and error.

[cursive lark]

Yeap they definitely did 3 hours on that

[atomic abyss]

no asw either, i'm willing to bet

[cursive lark]

Is there /w14 in bot spam?

[atomic abyss]

i highly doubt that's the best working unless you literally have no other ships raised

[cobalt rapids]

nope

[soft raft]

At this point just post your dock in a thread, I heavily doubt that Royal Oak of all things is your best SR BB

[atomic abyss]

no, what works for w15 also works for w14 anyways

[exotic ginkgo]

ASW is not an issue.

[cursive lark]

When I was new w14 was pain especially with the concealment and stuff

[atomic abyss]

what blaster said

[exotic ginkgo]

No, I tried.

[cobalt rapids]

depending what u got w14 can still be a pain

[atomic abyss]

even amongst permanent BBs there are way better options (re: FdG)

[signal pollen]

Is unicorn retro better than Perseus

[exotic ginkgo]

How can I do that?

[lofty atlas]

is helena useful?

[eager mulch]

In the few places it matters, yes

[atomic abyss]

one of the most useful ships

[atomic abyss]

yes, by quite a fair bit

[lofty atlas]

whats so special about her? i dont get it

[keen sable]

Sure by giving up all dps for it

[cursive lark]

She debuffs all enemy in screen. She would be useful if there's enemy with high hp

[atomic abyss]

she has the most potent debuff in the game in terms of increasing your damage output

it's basically a flat 1.4x all damage done while her skill is active (if it procs)

[cursive lark]

No

You can't deal more than 55k damage to a kagerou production

[soft raft]

60% proc chance every 20s but it's worth the gamble

[atomic abyss]

why, pray tell, would there be a kagerou production on a boss node

[muted wind]

pretty sure with the way the game handles unconditional damage debuffs, it's always x1.4 damage if it's active, even if you got more debuffs going on

[cursive lark]

The same reason she is kinda not that useful in campaign no?

That her debuffs doesn't apply to enemy that has not spawned?

[stark quiver]

No it’s because it’s bad to sync in campaign

[lone knoll]

i just tried using helena in a boss fleet she shaved off like 40s of my last clear wtf

[cursive lark]

How is having helena considered syncing

[atomic abyss]

because you need to hit the 10s window in order to make use of her debuff to begin with

[wind hazel]

because her buff isn't constant...

[cursive lark]

It's just a plain 50% uptime damage bonus

[muted wind]

you need to actually set up your fleet so they fire in her uptime window

[soft raft]

Did you forget about the 60% proc chance

[wind hazel]

that's some crazy number you're pulling

[lone knoll]

even if no syincing is done u can still dish out some extra damage from your frontline no?

[wind hazel]

well you also want to think of many other factors, such as gun damage, AA, yadayada

[atomic abyss]

helena is recommended to new players because she can make the difference for a clear

[stark quiver]

It’s not worth it, in higher stages she’s dead weight

[atomic abyss]

and because she's extremely useful for a new player, lacking options

she's basically extremely useful up to the point you get to end campaign and have stacks of URs

there are very few ships accessible early on that remain relevant like helena

[lone knoll]

okay, how do i know if my cv's are syincing with her? is there an ingame stat? for example amagi cv, is the airstrike timming tied to her planes or the ship itself?

[atomic abyss]

both

it's tied to both the ship's reload and the planes she's using
and for other ships, skills

[cursive lark]

Yes her skill attempts at 16s or 20s mark, and lasts 10s

[sour thunder]

I know I’m going to sound silly here, but where is the portal to leave arbiter’s hard mode. I’m stuck in the zone and can’t get out. I feel dumb asking too. My fleets didn’t finish the job so I just want to get out now.

[atomic abyss]

im pretty sure it's at the bottom

[cursive lark]

Press the button you usually press when you want to leave zone

No portal

[stark quiver]

The portal above the boss node

[eager mulch]

exit button bottom right isn’t there

[sour thunder]

See I didn’t notice that exit. I kept reading too fast. That was it. The portal above was saying can’t get to it. But that exit button was there. Thanks so much

[eager mulch]

your welcome

[stark quiver]

Oh, I confused it with abyssal

[cursive lark]

There's always an exit button other than stronghold iirc

[spring topaz]

do these combat data packs have an alternative use?

[soft raft]

Always convert them to protocore

[eager mulch]

yes, depot > convert into protocore is the better use

[whole crypt]

go to depot and analyze them for proto core

[lone knoll]

how do you calculate? 126 reload with a 9.97s/wave plane equals?

[eager mulch]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

[lone knoll]

thanks

[spring topaz]

this option?

[whole crypt]

why use a calculator when you can gawk at the convoluted formula

[spring topaz]

and what do you use protocores on?

[atomic abyss]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[lone knoll]

thank you, ill use wolframalpha, and the calculator website

[atomic abyss]

just use this...

[whole crypt]

just use the airstrike calc, it's good as long as you put in the right numbers

all plane and carrier stats also have presets which make it a lot less painful

[spring topaz]

what about these?

[whole crypt]

Drake is kind of ehhh, you can use them to wrap up FdG sooner but 16 isn't a lot

you could just wait until FdG is complete then convert them for analyzing

[spring topaz]

same process as combat packs?

[whole crypt]

prototype cores are generally going to be scarce for newer players

with the extra step of needing to convert them to the prints of a specific ship first, and don't do it before the ship is finished

[lone knoll]

its good with helena then ! without radar scan

this website will be very handy thank you, also entry and helena combo just one shots everything no?

[eager mulch]

no

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't say everything, there's still using the right gear

[lone knoll]

but it will still be a huge ammount of damage avalible with low investment

[whole crypt]

and you'll probably still be short without other strong ships for things like arb and showdowns

that it will be

[lone knoll]

im curently not using both helena and entry, im waiting for entry to get skill lvl 10 so its a nice to have i guess for 3rd fleet opsi

what is considered the best general oneshot setup (without including torps)

[atomic abyss]

there isnt one

the best changes depending on the enemy

and armour type isnt the only factor

[lone knoll]

I get that but and example of a very high damage one like helena entry, a replacment for entry I guess

[cursive lark]

The only one "without torps" is rockets

Which is niche soo

[lone knoll]

rockets ? i didnt even know rockets were in this game

[atomic abyss]

kearsage, yorktown2, implacable
kazagumo, aurora, sirius

is the current best for light armour enemies

[lone knoll]

kearsage is dr the other i dont recognize, i will look into them (i wont have them all fr years)

[stark quiver]

Are hvars required, or can I te away with 109g

[cursive lark]

Aurora for ddg or mog if the light armor enemy is somehow michita

[atomic abyss]

lower damage cap

[stark quiver]

Yorktown 2 is from parallel superimposition event

[atomic abyss]

and frankly, nakhimov should be thrown into every CV comp now...

[lone knoll]

aka i cant get it

[atomic abyss]

the best comps dont use helena

[lone knoll]

😿

[atomic abyss]

helena is for those who are lacking in some area

[stark quiver]

I mean they are due to rerun in like <1 year

[lone knoll]

but it's still a great ship to ahve no?

[atomic abyss]

usually additional stats from fleet tech or gear

ofc, she is going to be there for you for years

[lone knoll]

i will reto her eventually not a top priority

[cursive lark]

Cuz helena has a chance not to roll at all

[atomic abyss]

but you did ask for the best

[lone knoll]

yes yes, that helps me see the bigger picture and how far off I am

[atomic abyss]

for heavy armour, the current best is
amagi, shinano, implacable
unzen, kazagumo, sirius

[cursive lark]

Comps can change though

[stark quiver]

^like around that time

[lone knoll]

i have amagi! 1 out of 6 done ggwp

[cursive lark]

Prettu sure for heavy it was ark royal centaur shinano

[atomic abyss]

just 2 weeks ago, the best would have had hakuryuu and not amagi

[cursive lark]

But now it's still shinano

[lone knoll]

i will eventually get shinano, cant wait to use her with amagi

[atomic abyss]

and once more people get nakhimov

[cursive lark]

Wait until np cv slow added

[stark quiver]

Bruh I can’t mlb amagi

[atomic abyss]

the meta will be completely overturned

[cursive lark]

Why tho

[viscid swift]

it probably won't

[atomic abyss]

well cheeky

[viscid swift]

as is Nahkimov comps need to high roll without La-9

[atomic abyss]

nakhimov is in theory the best carrier in the game

for all armour types

she can carry 6 fighters you know

[lone knoll]

gg i will dump all my bp's on her

[cursive lark]

Huft

[atomic abyss]

no you wont

[lone knoll]

ok i wont sorry

[atomic abyss]

not worth it

[lone knoll]

well when is it worth it to use the bps? i have yet to use 1

[fluid brook]

but in practice shes only best at medium? or also at light?

[atomic abyss]

not when there's other similar carriers that are easier to invest in

[cursive lark]

Nah as if it will matter, you won't finish her before I did

[atomic abyss]

paper says she excels at med the most

[lone knoll]

i have yet to build my first dr ship lmao

[atomic abyss]

so that shd be friederich de grosse - and not anyone else

[cursive lark]

Quyet's was 3% better than trio floof

[lone knoll]

2.4 million xp is killing me

[eager mulch]

2.4mil xp is nothing

[viscid swift]

Oh trust me, I'm aware of theory

[atomic abyss]

every DR wants the 1.2 and 2.4

and that's the easy part

[cursive lark]

That's nothing compared to the bps

[atomic abyss]

the hardest part is getting the 513 BP for EACH DR

[cursive lark]

Sad napoli

[lone knoll]

yeah the bps will be hard it will take like 3 months

if i spend like 10k coins per day

[cursive lark]

That's overestimation for coins

[tame jungle]

New DRs you can’t even coin up so

[atomic abyss]

for friederich, you need less than 2 months if you use coins

[cursive lark]

Maybe with a lot of cubes researxh yes 3 months

[lone knoll]

what do you consider a lot of cubes

[crimson glacier]

500

[atomic abyss]

way in excess of 400

[cursive lark]

Yes

[warm flax]

What's the next prio of main gun gold plates after 3 Champy guns

[soft raft]

800+

[stark quiver]

No bulins

[cursive lark]

I thought old player has bulins

[soft raft]

what do bullins have to do with Research ships
you cant use bullins on them

[atomic abyss]

old player that has not played consistently wont have enough UR bulins

like me

[stark quiver]

I’m not old

[cursive lark]

2021

[atomic abyss]

even tho i have enough bulins right now for amagi and mogador
im holding off since i need some for the musashi i dont have

[keen sable]

ur new

[atomic abyss]

consistency is what determines if you have enough bulins

not just how long you play

[eager mulch]

just pull 5 musashis ender

[atomic abyss]

thats what i did with soyuz, got 4 of them

[cursive lark]

Damn finally someone similar :EssexWheez:

[stark quiver]

Realistically speaking I started playing consistently around end of 2023

[lone knoll]

how big of an improvment is this thing from lets say f6f hellcat

[cursive lark]

I will get musashi later for floof

[atomic abyss]

huge

[lone knoll]

it will be my first gear lab then

[atomic abyss]

lower cooldowns, more damage, better interception

it should NOT be your 1st priority tho

[cursive lark]

Follow the gearlab prios

[lone knoll]

its yhe only one i can make right now

[cursive lark]

Save up

[cobalt rapids]

make junker instead

[atomic abyss]

the stuff used to craft those are pretty high in demand from other things too

[lone knoll]

its red so its okay to get no?

[soft raft]

Flapjack is pog but gold Hellcat is good enough to last you for a good while

[atomic abyss]

it's good to get, but you're not pushing w15 are you?

[cobalt rapids]

2x1000lb are small upgrades over 2x500lb

[lone knoll]

😿 okay im sorry

[lone knoll]

im on 12-4 i is w13 that hard?

easy clears on w12

[atomic abyss]

from w12 to w13, it's a huge jump

[soft raft]

depends on how well built your fleet is

[stark quiver]

Plane spam

[lone knoll]

its bad so i guess i wont have fun in w13

[atomic abyss]

the jump from w13 to w15 is more than twice that jump

[cursive lark]

Expect triple the planes and their better unicorn

[lone knoll]

this is my uni

[soft raft]

why are you using rocket fighters in campaign bro
they dont passive intercept

[atomic abyss]

that uni will be a fat load of dung in w13

that fighter is worse than the hellcat in campaign

[lone knoll]

i need planes that intercept on uni?

[cursive lark]

On each cv that can

[lone knoll]

but only in plane heavy conytent no? w13 is plane city or what

[cursive lark]

Told u triple the planes

[lone knoll]

someone told me to get this plane (not for uni tho)

[viscid swift]

W13 is plane heavy content

[soft raft]

passive intercept is basically a highly reccomended must in campaign

rocket planes only really see use in Operation Siren where enemy planes arent as huge of a threat

[lone knoll]

oh my bad

[atomic abyss]

w12 is plane village
w13 is plane town
w15 is the plane metropolis

[lone knoll]

okay so 6cv fleet on w15

[soft raft]

[atomic abyss]

6cv works on w13 yes

[lone knoll]

only have 5

im fucked

[cursive lark]

That reminds me, is sharing a bug that allows infinite sandy retros allowed?

[soft raft]

3CV mob in W13
possibly 3 CV for boss too but 2CV 1BB worked better for me

And 2CV 1 BB in both fleets for W15 because suicide boats exist there too

[atomic abyss]

report the bug so it can be fixed

[stark quiver]

Would advise against it

[atomic abyss]

i highly doubt it's even a "bug"

[fluid brook]

That plane aka BFG109G or Rockets, is good, but for campaign its not, because Rockets cant intercept but does a good amount of damage against medium armored bosses, which is mostly used for Medium/Light Bosses that doesnt need AA to keep ships alive

[lone knoll]

my only bb's tahta are built are indiana and sovestka

[cursive lark]

Aight

[atomic abyss]

there's little point rushing past w12 anyways

[lone knoll]

ok so a good boss plane

[atomic abyss]

just park your ass there

[soft raft]

only in operation siren

still a no-no in campaign

[lone knoll]

aka the best content in the game

[fluid brook]

You gain little exp in Opsi

[cursive lark]

Exploring the world is fun

You get to see how bad your account is

[lone knoll]

this ^^

[atomic abyss]

clearing content is fun
getting your ass handed to you isnt

[fluid brook]

I just dip out

[stark quiver]

I tried exploring the world (w15) with Helena

Did not work btw

[keen sable]

Skill issue

[cursive lark]

I upgraded kiev to 125 just to push 14-2

[lone knoll]

so if i cant get the ugly ass plane from gear lab wich gear shoul i make my n1 option from gear lab ?

the UR ones im not even close to getting

[atomic abyss]

the ironblood converging torpedo bombers, the ju-87 d-4

[lone knoll]

omg i totally forgot about the torp mombers

[keen sable]

@lone knoll

[atomic abyss]

yes, those

[lone knoll]

this one ? it isnt on the guide

[atomic abyss]

it is

[cursive lark]

Mombers

[lone knoll]

i will se if i can

ok jonkers is a plane a gun ? what is it i cant find it

[atomic abyss]

junkers is this

[cursive lark]

It's in sakura torp/dive mombers

[lone knoll]

oh yeah it just isnt with the red outline okok

[cursive lark]

I mean ijn

[lone knoll]

I cant make it but im close tho

[atomic abyss]

the ju-87 d-4 is german

[stark quiver]

Junker doesn’t sound ijn

[sweet delta]

[cursive lark]

IJuNker

[kindred kite]

should i be pushing event to get to 30k, seems like a lot of oil for a new player

[lone knoll]

should i really be crafting convergign planes w/o slows tho?

[soft raft]

Yes
free UR Bullin go brrrrr

[cursive lark]

Don't force urself if you haven't unlock the oil capped maps

[atomic abyss]

you'll need them for august at least

[lone knoll]

august? what happens in agust?

[kindred kite]

@cursive lark i just hit w9

[keen sable]

Magato doesn't even use slows

[wispy pendant]

what are we recommending is important in pr6 over pr7?

[cursive lark]

Then D1 should be easy

Go 55k instead

[keen sable]

But she sure is eating a lot of torps

[stark quiver]

The free bulin is nice

[atomic abyss]

august van parseval, the ship

[kindred kite]

just auto each stage of event for the 3x?

[soft raft]

He's saying August as in Augustus Von Parseval
the PR4 German CV

She needs a german plane for one of her skills

[lone knoll]

i will read her kit 1 sec

she slows AND makes enemies take more avi damge wtf

im like 1 year away from having her i think

[cursive lark]

Magato uses mog root

[hollow gust]

I have a new setup for nagato

[cursive lark]

Wait what, take more avi damage? Oh wow nobody ever mentioned that

[lone knoll]

she seems really solid

paired with fdg she must be insane

[cursive lark]

Oh

She is mainly used with torps, which used for heavy armor

No wonder nobody ever mentioned her buffs

[keen sable]

If avp takes you more than 5 months to fs5 you are doing something wrong

[lone knoll]

its still extra damage taht can ocasionally be usefull i guess

[cursive lark]

Taking 8hr 12 hr 6hr free researches?

[lone knoll]

i still need to fs5 fdg and agir dev 30

[soft raft]

AvP's value lies more in being synced up with other carriers, not being paired with other german ships

[cursive lark]

Huh something is wrong

[keen sable]

Neither of which prevent you from coining avp

[cursive lark]

5 months and this is kinda slow no?

[lone knoll]

shes coinable nvm my bad

[lone knoll]

i have no idea how long it takes im yet to have a single research ship at dev 30

[soft raft]

not to mention that DR and PR coining have sepreate daily discounts

[lone knoll]

okay buts is a fun little extra help i want to use fdg either way

[cursive lark]

Free researches are nice no?

[keen sable]

1 to get sorted 2 for anchorage 2 for avp. It's a conservative max for not trying

[soft raft]

extremely inefficent
they're like the worst kinds of researches you can take unless you're flat broke/unable to properly invest in research yet

[lone knoll]

okok 72 days not that bad

i am still building her up before august right? i need a tank

[kindred kite]

should i 3 star, hard mode c1,2,3 of event? i cant do d1 dont have enough lvl

[keen sable]

Each pr4 is around 51 days

[keen sable]

Mission rewards are good rewards

[lone knoll]

ok not that bad

[whole crypt]

so this is what the new sirius stamps are...

[shell willow]

nice

[cursive lark]

What are toes?

Discord emotes?

[strong tartan]

They're the things on your feet

Ingame stickers for ingame chat I think so

[cursive lark]

Dang

Still wondering whether a l2d skin is worth the 6th dorm slot or 60 docks

Any data on how many new ships per year?

Perhaps anniv gems can save my dock

[lone knoll]

cant wait for dock space to be a problem

[atomic abyss]

about 60 from new events alone
if you include reruns

[hollow gust]

I think I cooked something , if the CVs are minmaxed you don't really need the higher ceiling from moggy

You can just use Eldridge and guarantee some kind of slow , moggy missing has costed me several oneshots

[lone knoll]

eldridge just seems so good to build i stg it will be my next ship

[hollow gust]

No??

Eldridge retrofit is like bottom bottom in priority

[lone knoll]

wait how tf did you amagi deal 400k damage

[wind hazel]

by being amagi

[eager mulch]

it’s almost like amagi good or smth idk

[lone knoll]

mine deals 100k gg i will sell it

[shell willow]

why use alsace if you dont use mog? wouldnt 3 cv be better at that point

[whole crypt]

for the record mog also benefits carriers and eldrdge also benefits BBs but whatever

it's just which advantage you want to game

[hollow gust]

Although my reasoning is cause I don't wanna swap gear

Equipping 3 UR CVs is a pain in the ass

[lone knoll]

can you show your amagi gear ?

[whole crypt]

I'll consider Eldridge tomorrow, what gear?

[forest palm]

you will not get those results out of your Amagi unless you're doing the same content, and can recreate the builds

[atomic abyss]

so, exactly what umi/seacat was saying a few days ago?

[hollow gust]

Use the same stuff , haven't optimized yet , although I did turn down cv rld to like 15 so Alsace matches better

[whole crypt]

doesn't matter if I'm sticking with 3CV right?

[lone knoll]

it hurts so much to see gear like this while using purple doghsit gear

[atomic abyss]

it takes a fair bit of work

[shell willow]

everybody started somewhere

[soft raft]

Yamato Gun Alsace, huh?

[atomic abyss]

just focus on what you can do

[hollow gust]

That debate was base on which comp does the most damage , there is no denial that a mogador comp hits way harder . However my gear and ships are minmaxed , so I don't need the headroom mog provides

[lone knoll]

😿

[cursive lark]

More like which comp has the most kill rate

[whole crypt]

the good news is some new gear will eventually replace old gear, so if you get your pace up you'll be able to get that new gear at the same pace as older players

[keen sable]

Well that's bad

[lone knoll]

true and I will use this dog gear as temporary gear for other ships at least

[cursive lark]

Be tryhard and you'll clear w15 in 8 months

[atomic abyss]

[lone knoll]

I cant do anyhting better I think

[whole crypt]

I'm obviously not tryhard enough it took me 6 years

[keen sable]

More tb

[atomic abyss]

8 months thing only possible if you got the relevant ships already

[hollow gust]

Either way still in testing , my mogador comp wr is like 43/45, and Eldridge js 5/5 rn

[lone knoll]

tb?

[cursive lark]

Abdou or something took 8 months I think

[keen sable]

Torpedo bomber

[atomic abyss]

yes, and he had the relevant ships

[hollow gust]

You should see CN tryhards

[whole crypt]

8 month from scratch possible if you minmax from start, may help if you're lucky starting with good URs

[atomic abyss]

just stick to helldiver

[keen sable]

Ryuusei...

[atomic abyss]

better for actually raising her

[lone knoll]

okay I will

[lone knoll]

Ryuusei? wich on is it

[stark quiver]

And abdou had almost all the relevant ships to start with

[atomic abyss]

no point using ryuuseis yet

[keen sable]

Or do that and do nothing to magato. Your choice

[atomic abyss]

[keen sable]

3rd one

[atomic abyss]

we're not even talking about nagato meta here

i dont even think he has opsi unlocked

or if he has, he's not been doing it

[lone knoll]

im doing a meta fight she's stacking health takes like 4 tries

[keen sable]

They literally love ops

[lone knoll]

I love it

[cursive lark]

Yes the max version is what we trying to beat in 1

[lone knoll]

impossible

[cursive lark]

I have been there

[lone knoll]

holy that must be so nice to witness

[atomic abyss]

for the average player, it is impossible yes

[whole crypt]

you'll get there, I'm averaging about 80% oneshots on Nagato META now

[soft raft]

oneshotting META fights requires investment into fleet tech
namely BB/CV RLD, FP/AVI, and HIT

[hollow gust]

Damn that's rough ? Non oathed?

[atomic abyss]

a good player will be able to do it
eventually

[lone knoll]

i deal like 35% hp or something horrible like that

[stark quiver]

I four shot nagaM

[whole crypt]

main fleet all oathed but my last strike just decides to scuff 20% of the time

[lone knoll]

im very far from that

[hollow gust]

How much HP before last airstrike?

[cursive lark]

This particular one needs CA RLD and DD HIT too

[frail pelican]

how do I fix this on my JP account? I don't have this problem on my GL account. Is it because I'm playing GL on my galaxy tab vs JP on my iphone?

[whole crypt]

I've seen anywhere between 20 bars and 30-something

[soft raft]

have you tried repair assets?

[frail pelican]

I tried redownloading assets but that didnt help

[hollow gust]

Hmmm that's not that good , it does sound like mogador is having skill issues

[atomic abyss]

now that's bad by your standards

4 shot is like 0 UR

[lone knoll]

max level for meta fights is 15?

im 4 shoting on level 9 im so cooked

[wind hazel]

support button is free

[atomic abyss]

just request for assistance with the support button

[lone knoll]

even with support i pick like unzen shinano and some other ships i don remember