gameplay-help

[inland shoal]

Also I'd rather set the mission to 300 enemies, it's the easiest mission

[cold flint]

Yes, they are the first member so I was trying to promote them to officer

[cold flint]

I see, I will note it down for next time

I thought none were gonna join my guild at all, guess I am lucky

[inland shoal]

Welp
From a meta perspective I'd advise against joining your guild
Likely low guild tech, no way you can do 2 (hard) operations a month
But good luck anyway

[cold flint]

with the help of this new member, I think we will be able to raise the guild haha

Thanks for the wish!

[quick notch]

Ah thank you, also can you get her by the blueprints?

[inland shoal]

Mmh no, the blueprints are how you make her useful

To get her you just have to complete her missions in the shipyard

[quick notch]

I see

[remote yarrow]

Also if you are planning to get her just for collection go ahead, but focusing on PR7 as a new player is not advisable

[woeful sluice]

what should I get from the event store? I have 28860 crystals rn

[eager mulch]

stuff that you need

cogs, pr/dr prints, , oil, gear skins if you’re into that

the is really important

[wide mirage]

Can someone help me to make a fleet for stage 13 ?

Would be appreciated

[forest palm]

make a thread, post dock in thread, someone'll get to you

[wide mirage]

God damn 99 threads

[half plover]

do u guys already know the armor type of the next opsi season?

[hollow gust]

This month is heavy so next is light

[foggy chasm]

why theres no this AA gun

[half plover]

is light easier in general?

[hollow gust]

Cause it's not good

[hollow gust]

For newbies I would say it's the hardest one . Easiest to oneshot generally tho

[foggy chasm]

oh

[half plover]

oh I see, so arbiter hard won't be possible for most new players?

[foggy chasm]

ectl recommended it for accelerator aa. ig theres still sus stuff on ectl. iis there anything i need to watchout for from ectl?

[half plover]

idk what is needed to beat hard

[hollow gust]

It's fine as accelerater , generally don't use it tho

[foggy chasm]

so the tradeoff is bad?

[wide mirage]

stage 13 help

[foggy chasm]

between AA stat and the fr rate?

[hollow gust]

No?

[wide mirage]

Now we wait

[undone plover]

4 decently levelled fleets
good gear
sub fleet also helps
pretty sure u can do hard 3-4 months into the game if not earlier if u dedicate yourself to it

[half plover]

I might want to try it but I think I need to update my fleets for it

I stacked up good gear again today so maybe it is possible

[undone plover]

almost certainly.
this month is hermit
if u have 3 +13 champy guns u probably have a decent shot
might need to manual and reset for helena 3-4 scans

[half plover]

I only got 2 and 20/25 prints so I can't get the third one sadly

[undone plover]

still worth fighting even if u cant kill btw
gives rewards for getting hp down to certain threshholds

[half plover]

ooh

[undone plover]

u can make a thread later and ask for help if u want

[half plover]

yeah I think updating it now might also work since I probably wont get any new ships for next month anyway

it is generally just a matter of gear for bosses, not ships itself right?

[vale spindle]

cause you have to go out of your way to get it for minimal gain

[rain vine]

mostly gear, to a certain extent ships

[undone plover]

for ships mainly level matters
anything decent can work especially if u have a couple of URs to carry them

amagi is good vs heavy
if u have haku/nano with her that fleet alone will do >50% easily

[sweet delta]

Is it minimal positive gain or just negative gain?

[vale spindle]

*minimal sometimes positive gain

[full delta]

What is the best way to farm the gold upgrade parts and both rainbow/gold design plans? Is it just daily spending AP on OpSi?

[hollow gust]

Shop + Arbiter + abyssals(red chests) + yellow chests

[keen sable]

Eliminate all funny symbols

[full delta]

aighto thank you, and once all the funny symbols are gone i just go into C5 zones?

[half plover]

OPSI Fleet updates

[soft coral]

Would yall say for opsi planes take the most priority for +13?

[hollow gust]

Tenrai , Converging torps , rocket fighters , depends honestly

[inland shoal]

You mean planes in general? I'd usually do BB guns first cuz it has a greater impact per plate invested

[soft coral]

Yeah all my tenrais are +13 and im thinking how to distribuite my general blueprints

[keen sable]

What you need always has the highest priority

[broken chasm]

guys, any docs with the build of every ship? I cant find the build for hiei meta, watarase and amagi cv

[silk helm]

can i skip haku if i have amagi?

[lone knoll]

there's a cap on specialzed cores??????

[silk helm]

5000 a month iirc

[hollow gust]

no??? haku has one of the best damage ingame

[lone knoll]

how tf am i supposed to have ur bulins then

[remote yarrow]

You can get an extra 1k from Medal shop

And well, just wait

[silk helm]

rlly? more than amagi?

[lone knoll]

i still only have 1 ur but im guessing they will release 1 more later this year want to have bulins ready : (

[viscid swift]

considering said UR won't drop until late december most likely

[lone knoll]

oh im fine then

[keen sable]

All the other methods

[hollow gust]

right now she is only the best in heavy, there is nowhere good to test her other damage types. Either way skipping one of the best CVs ingame is stupid

[remote yarrow]

That's what most players experience you gotta decide which ships to MLB before others, You get 4 Bulins every 2 months

[silk helm]

okay i'll finish her then go to pr5

[lone knoll]

welp, if i dont pull ur's i dont have to decide wich one to build 1000iq still only have amai, im considering forcing shinano but would be a huge waste

[keen sable]

It would be

[remote yarrow]

Intentionally skipping URs is dumb -1000iq

[lone knoll]

amagi really helps shinano right? and vice versa

[lone knoll]

i ahve never skipped one, only 1 ur came out since I play : (

[remote yarrow]

She does, but she's not needed to make Amagi work

[lone knoll]

but it would be a decent investment right?

[remote yarrow]

Yeah, but you are timegated by Bulins anyways

[lone knoll]

im 200 away from guaranteed ur, as soon as i have 4 ur bulins im thinking of grabbing her (would just need 100 or 50 summons by then)

[keen sable]

No. Amagii is amagii. Shinano is shinano. They work very well together but are not paired ships.

[lone knoll]

yeah but they complement eachother well right?

[keen sable]

You know it would be a huge waste yet you keep considering it

[spring bolt]

if you are f2p, no
if you are average level non f2p, no
if you are super big whale, yes, shinano will enhance your game experience

[lone knoll]

is 50 cubes really a waste?

[remote yarrow]

Yes

[lone knoll]

ok i wont i will eventually have her either way

[remote yarrow]

Don't actively try to complete the Permanent UR pity

Consider it a bonus that builds up while you pull for other event ships

[lone knoll]

i have never done that, the 200 pulls I have is from daily and event banner sthat are not ur (indomitabel and indiana)

i used to do the 3 summons cuz of mission but thats a big waste

i just do that if i dont have the new ship

also is pulling the side units worth? is watarase worth?

[keen sable]

Just space out your event builds better or tell yourself this is what would have happened if only you spaced it out better

[keen sable]

You can get every ship eventually if that's what you want to do.

[lone knoll]

next event instead of dumping all day 1 of the banner i will just wait until last day, that's what u all do right?

[keen sable]

No, I hedge with 10 a day

[eternal basalt]

Every day 3

[half plover]

I do 3 ships / day to complet the mission untii I get all ships

[ancient ridge]

Heya! How's my 2 current fleet rn? Dont really got much options, i do have a kaga in the back aswell

[remote yarrow]

Nope, I pull until I get all units on day 1 and save later

[hollow gust]

akaga 🤢

[lone knoll]

humm that works too I guess extra couple thousand points

[lone knoll]

but u are ultra lategame lvl99 raid boss

with 23812098 spare cubes

[remote yarrow]

Not really, many people here have way more cubes than I do, I'm at 750

[keen sable]

You risk running out of coin if you wait till last day

[eternal basalt]

Ehm, run 12-4 during event?

[lone knoll]

that was actually my problem, i only have 60k max coins

[viscid swift]

a gross exaggeration, I'm barely into 4 digits currently

[remote yarrow]

You don't, that's your soft cap, hard cap is 600k

[lone knoll]

i got super lucky otherwise i would run out of coins, i coulnt even mlb her

[ancient ridge]

Wrong 2nd pick, this one

[lone knoll]

helpful information thanks

[spring bolt]

well i guess the real risk is that you suddenly being caught by some unpredictable incident and fail to pull at the last day

[hollow gust]

you should post your ships in a dock

[lone knoll]

like running out of coins (or something more extreme)

[eternal basalt]

~~Like a hospital visit ~~

[viscid swift]

if you run out of coins that's just bad resource management

[lone knoll]

i have never had more than 50k.... ; (

[remote yarrow]

Nah I think he refers to irl stuff, like imagine if your internet or phone happens to die on last day or any other stuff

[keen sable]

That worse

[lone knoll]

okay so i will wait until 2nd to last day then

[keen sable]

It was kind of ok for 12 and 13

[half plover]

my resource management mentality is that if I spend as much as I can today, I can save up sooner

[keen sable]

But you're clinging to concepts that were never great to begin with

[eternal basalt]

Or your brain... one more year though, one more year

[spring bolt]

yeah i mean, who knows if a random dog decides to chase you down for 10 blocks until you lost your phone and keys

[keen sable]

This is why you hedge

If you get everything in first 10 build just call yourself lucky. If you get all ships around day 9 average then you don't waste too many cubes on 3 pulls. And if you need to go spark on last day it isn't far.

[eternal basalt]

Atleast when your phone dies there are android emulators to keep up till a new one arrives

[fathom valve]

Is there any things I should change or work on?

[remote yarrow]

Yes, these are awful

[viscid swift]

that's a steaming pile of ship

[keen sable]

Where's healer?

[lone knoll]

I will follow your method then 10 pulls a day

[eager mulch]

no amagi-chan, garbage fleet

[remote yarrow]

He typod dock instead of thread

[viscid swift]

you're lacking a healer for the mob fleet whichever fleet that's supposed to be, so many 0 or 1 limit break ships so your 1st fleet is pretty much worthless besides Yuddachi, fleet 2 also lacks a BB to defend against suicide baots

[keen sable]

You know non mlb ships are very bad?

[fathom valve]

Well I have drone that heals, does that it better at least?

[viscid swift]

no, you're not using Unicorn which is pretty much just actively hindering yoruself

[remote yarrow]

You are better off scrapping these fleets and posting your dock in a thread and let someone help you

[ancient ridge]

Back from the dead from 5years hiatus

[wispy pendant]

the faster someone just takes the advice of the newbie guide, the better

[eager mulch]

what if im not a newbie

[remote yarrow]

Use Amagi chan

[wispy pendant]

if you haven't completed everything in the newbie guide yet, go back and finish that, then you won't be a newbie anymore and we can move on to better things

[eager mulch]

do you guys do the azurlanedle?

[hollow gust]

you need help?

[eager mulch]

got it in 2 (if 2 = 9)

[half plover]

where to find it

[eager mulch]

google

[fathom valve]

Need help....

[hollow gust]

i got in three

[viscid swift]

what on earth are you guys talking about

[hollow gust]

https://azurlanedle.com/

[keen sable]

Not particularly. 2% is not 16%

[lime owl]

i just got the game 2 days ago and managed to RNG new jersey and shimikaza but i have no idea what kinda fleet to build with them ;-;

[viscid swift]

you don't use them at all

[remote yarrow]

Why didn't you pull for Amagi instead of those two? Cuz right now they are useless

[warm latch]

you dont use them because you dont have the materials needed to make them good

[lime owl]

oh........

[hollow gust]

shouldve pulled on amagi banner , shes giga op, nj and shima powercreeped

[warm latch]

theyre permanently available too, and theres a pity for them, you shouldve pulled for the limited UR

[lime owl]

idk i was honestly pulling for random shit. i was gonna make a new fleet with nagato/kaga/akagi so i was just pulling it to try and get other stuff

[viscid swift]

that is also a bad idea

[hollow gust]

that sounds bad

[lime owl]

F

[viscid swift]

give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[warm latch]

all the good ships for a new player are obtainable without pulling

[eager mulch]

they stay in the dock

[hollow gust]

who recced nagato and akaga though

sounds like you got hard trolled

[eager mulch]

not me

[viscid swift]

or was it

[eager mulch]

you know who id rec

[viscid swift]

touche

[spring bolt]

probably old ytb video

[wispy pendant]

i'm sorry you did anything in game before asking for advice

[hollow gust]

you can reroll for an amgi lul

[finite crag]

Inting

[lime owl]

well, i just thought it would be fine for now cuz im new ;-;

[eager mulch]

same

[wispy pendant]

after you pull for amagi, don't pull for shima or NJ, they will come in time.

[remote yarrow]

Nah, faction fleets are awful, even worse if you are new

[wispy pendant]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 New Player's Guide by .Snub and Community TL

🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[finite crag]

Its exactly because youre new that you should be wise with what ships you soend your resources on

[wispy pendant]

follow the new players guide

[remote yarrow]

Cheeky already linked them the guide

[lime owl]

i wasent rlly pulling for them tbh i was just trying to increase my overall ship count ;-;

[finite crag]

Not to mention the opportunity cost of farming for dogshit slop like akagi and kaga

[viscid swift]

you do realize that's the ECTL's new player walkthrough right

[eager mulch]

mfw ectl doesn’t even recc ectl new players guide anymore

[viscid swift]

the one that hasn't been updated in 4 years

[remote yarrow]

I think we should do a collective suggestion to remove their guide from /guide ngl

[viscid swift]

if you want to start I'll back it but don't get your hopes up

[eager mulch]

got the /gems ptsd

[viscid swift]

the mods aren't shall we say the most, open, to stuff like that

[lime owl]

the one i was just linked was updated sep 5th 2024

[remote yarrow]

Yes that's the good one, read it

[kindred kite]

im a week in, my current set up. working on unicorn and portland on the side. how is it looking. open to suggestions

[viscid swift]

just see how many times we tried to get /gems updated and there was also how long it took the tierless tierlist to be removed

[warm latch]

dont spread your bulins out across ships

[wispy pendant]

I did not realize that.
In my defense, it also includes samhearts compendium and newbie guide is in there.

Also, in defense of the ECTL, I used it to get to w9 prior to rice's guide, and it worked okay

[viscid swift]

it still works, there's just far better ways of doing things these days

[kindred kite]

@warm latch should i focus on mlb one at a time?

[wispy pendant]

focus on one set of ships till you're up to w9

[remote yarrow]

I think Ender's support is enough for it to be taken down ngl nvm then

[kindred kite]

@wispy pendant im at 9 now

[viscid swift]

and I don't particularly feel good reccing one way when there are substantially better ways now

[wispy pendant]

limit break the ships you're using then and go to w10

[viscid swift]

Res is the one I believe who handles the commands

it's up to them to get the commands actually updated

[warm latch]

you should be using portland and UNICORN, not just upgrading them on the side

[kindred kite]

who should i replace for portland and helena? @warm latch

[finite crag]

Yes, that last star is basically make or break for ships

[zenith peak]

Does Plymouth have fate simulation?

[finite crag]

No

[zenith peak]

o ok

[warm latch]

portland should be your boss fleet tank and unicorn is your mob fleet healer

[lime owl]

should i focus on trying to 3 star every campaign mission or just get to whatever the recomended point is?

[kindred kite]

@warm latch you said helena so i was confused haha

[finite crag]

3 starring gives you gem so yea, but rn focus on events first

With gems you also gotta spend them wisely if youre a f2p, 3 dorm slots + 2nd floor dorm then the rest goes to dock space

[lime owl]

ok

[remote yarrow]

I think it would be better if you made a thread and posted your dock instead of this back and forth of single questions

[light trail]

how many BFs do i want? i have 2 but have 44 bps so i can craft another rn

[remote yarrow]

The PR4 rocket fighter? You won't need more than 3 in most cases

[eager mulch]

6

[light trail]

9 it is

[eager mulch]

but they’ll be in gear lab soon so it’s whatever

[remote yarrow]

6

What do you use them for

[fluid brook]

[eager mulch]

they look cool ig

[little tree]

Do they do yearly halloween events?

[quick notch]

Guys what do y’all do with rare and uncommon ships? Should you enhance or retire them all?

[finite crag]

Retire blues use greys to enhance

[undone plover]

commons used for enhancing
retire rares for medals
can use to LB if u use the rare ship or for cheap faction tech

[quick notch]

Ty Ty

[whole crypt]

last few years have been consistently tempesta

and we also sort of know it will be this year too

[wispy pendant]

we do?
Also, isn't there some collab they leaked?

[little tree]

Cheeky might know something

[fluid brook]

To love ru collab

[whole crypt]

they announced the collab will be ToLoveru

[remote yarrow]

Yeah there was a teaser of a future event on the JP Anni stream and it really looked tempesta

[whole crypt]

and they sneak previewed a silhoutte for the October event that totally wasn't tentacles /s

[versed forum]

Is this good and do i need to replace my CA/DD?

[hollow gust]

that entire frontline is meh

[remote yarrow]

Probably bench Amagi too

[wispy pendant]

the collab is likely november or december if it matches the Senran Kagura event last year

[whole crypt]

yes

[wispy pendant]

cool, i haven't finished last years tempesta ships yet, maybe I will for the event though

[whole crypt]

tempesta are pretty much flavour ships anyway

[wispy pendant]

but their designs are really fun

[wispy pendant]

i thought i heard watarase was good

[whole crypt]

she's decent
but Takao and KasumiM are 🚮

[long solar]

any tier lists for ships and guns?

[whole crypt]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

disclaimer there's no one size fits all for gear

[exotic wren]

except toolbox

[whole crypt]

even toolbox

[versed sentinel]

who to mlb next?

[eager mulch]

Shitnano

Shinano*

[little tree]

Take it back

[versed sentinel]

[silk helm]

[eager mulch]

[remote yarrow]

Shinano or wait till next UR also if those NJs are from Pity Redeem it's a huge waste that could've gone to Nano's limit breaks

[versed sentinel]

no bro why would i redeem that much

[hollow gust]

why did u roll so heavily for nj

[eager mulch]

maybe they’re old njs

[versed sentinel]

i didnt tho

[storm heron]

yeah 3 njs just randomly showed up

[versed sentinel]

yeah showed up from the standart banner

why would i roll for 3 extra njs on her banner

[hollow gust]

rolling standard banner

[remote yarrow]

Yeah that's the problem, you shouldn't have rolled on standard banner to start with

[versed sentinel]

i threw 20 pulls to redeem shinano

[remote yarrow]

Other than daily Light build, pulling on Heavy and/or Special is a waste

[viscid swift]

why...

[eager mulch]

but heavy pool can give me amagi chan

[viscid swift]

you could have just waited for dailies to finish it up or just waited until the next event which will almost certainly not be a UR event

[full delta]

When should I start working on Augments? And should I make them for ships I use or prioritize the unique ones to make some others better

[acoustic thistle]

is kashino only from special pool?

[eager mulch]

yes

[versed sentinel]

🥱

[fathom valve]

I know this has no healer, but is this better by anyway possible? @remote yarrow

[hollow gust]

Ehhh

[icy cave]

What's the best strat to level up ships?

[eager mulch]

spam 12-4/12-1

[icy cave]

Do I run a full fleet of 6? Or is it btr to 3-1, 3-2 etc

[remote yarrow]

No that's bad, I asked you to get proper screenshots and you didn't so I couldn't help you

[tacit harbor]

What’s the best way to farm gold?

[eager mulch]

Full

[remote yarrow]

I'm doing something else rn so maybe someone else can make use of those screenshots https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1287904298323148800

[eager mulch]

spam 12-4/12-1

[icy cave]

Thank you!

[tacit harbor]

Thanks G

Time to pull out the German fleet for the time being then

[torn latch]

Why did you use triple DD

[tacit harbor]

Triple DD imo is only good with a couple factions

[sweet delta]

Triple DD imo is only good if the chosen DDs are good for the situation

[tacit harbor]

Agreed like Kitakaze who gets a buff

[light trail]

back to this really quick, would vs light look like skyraider TB TB? also would medium also be tenrai?

[tacit harbor]

For my German fleet only DD I use is Z-32, other than that I use cruisers like friedrich carl and Mainz

[light trail]

oh, and is helena a 125 priority or is she fine at just 120

[viscid swift]

didn't we literally tell you earlier don't use non MLB ships

[sweet delta]

Yes skyraider tb tb if nobody else has a strong DB slot. Technically hvarcat skyraider TB would do more damage, but imagine putting skyraider on a 2x145% slot

Actually hvarcat skyraider doesn't do more

[storm heron]

Does Ranger really deal infinite damage in average? Shouldn't the damage converge into a single number though, since the additional airstrikes are chance based?

[viscid swift]

how to tell me you watched Jimmy's latest tier list

[storm heron]

Yeah I need to argue with him

[eager mulch]

where does he place amagi chan

[storm heron]

the same tier as perseus

[viscid swift]

but anyway, consider the probability of actually getting a decent number of procs on her skills in the first place

[tacit harbor]

[storm heron]

It's like the case of enterprise, do people test her based on the 2x damage, or just the average?

[viscid swift]

Ranger's average is her regular airstrike with none of her skills proccing in that sense

it's a meme placement, just Jimmy being Jimmy

[sweet delta]

No
Yes

Memes aren't allowed here

[storm heron]

What does this 10s means? Is it written in game?

[tacit harbor]

10 seconds

[sweet delta]

That would be mode (what happens most of the time) not expected value

[storm heron]

so that includes her first skill and interceptions?

[sweet delta]

It's not displayed by the game , but it means that an assault proc applies to later airstrikes too if they are launched within 10s through hangar capacity or quick takeoff

[tacit harbor]

What @sweet delta said

[storm heron]

nah ranger's average damage is 1.47 of when her skills are not proccing

[stark quiver]

With infinite computing and rng, how fast can ranger defeat a cm boss, like enty cm

[storm heron]

with long island, 25s?

[sweet delta]

Adding long island would make it slower

[storm heron]

Oh wait true, plane jamming

[opaque gate]

is there a way to have another besver squad?

[spring bolt]

no

[eager mulch]

have a second acct ig

[livid wyvern]

Is there a trick to combat data collection? I'm trying to get Roon but my 5 Crimson botes are barely chipping at her bar

[finite crag]

12-4

[mint flint]

3 ships, 12-4

[livid wyvern]

I don't have a lot of Crimson Axis BB's or CV's so I'm stuck using only 2

Iron Blood*

[mint flint]

combat data is specifically vanguard/main fleet

[sinful escarp]

12-4, put them in dorm for morale bonus, 3 ships

[mint flint]

you need to check

[finite crag]

Roon is only ib vanguards

You gotta read the requirements better next time

[livid wyvern]

I've stacked pretty much whatever to the "Gimme Roon" fleet. My best IB Vanguards and I only got Bismarck and Elbe for Main IB

[mint flint]

as was just said, roon is vanguard only

[finite crag]

You dont have to use an ib backline it contributes nothing

[mint flint]

also can that fleet beat 12-4

[finite crag]

Anything can beat 12-4

2 rocks and a stick can beat 12-4

[mint flint]

if you say so

[livid wyvern]

I saw, this was prior to change, would my heavy hitter Mains steal xp from the Vanguard if they ever deployed planes?

[finite crag]

I know so

[sinful escarp]

but with a level 65 bismark as flag i doubt it

[livid wyvern]

I keep neglecting campaign, I'm only 6-2

[mint flint]

theres your problem

push to at least 12-1

[livid wyvern]

One of many

[sinful escarp]

ah, then just grind campaign, dont think about pr ships right now

[finite crag]

Get to 12 before focusing on research

[viscid swift]

This is what you are missing out on

[sinful escarp]

worrying about pr ships before w12 is just gonna hinder your overall progress

[livid wyvern]

My brain just sees free bote and just goes $$$.

[eager mulch]

still ain’t leveling your amagi chan yet

[viscid swift]

I'm prioritizing finishing all of my main fleets that give tech still

just those 3 along with Vestal META and Hiei META to go though

[eager mulch]

@eager mulch gn

[rain bobcat]

[spring bolt]

welcome to the club

[livid wyvern]

Boss and Mob fleet building

[eager mulch]

amagi chan gives +gacha luck tech trust

[viscid swift]

yes, still got a few dozen little, muse, and collab ships left to do still though

[spring bolt]

no tech, no chip

[viscid swift]

well my goal is to get every ship to 120 eventually, and the way I see it I'm probably not leaving 12-1 anytime soon so may as well

[livid wyvern]

Anyone wanna critique my shotgun surgery fleet

[rain bobcat]

[sweet delta]

[spring bolt]

my trick is to master mvp control, otherwise oil/exp ratio is lower than 10h commission if you farm exp for 3 vanguards in ch 12

[viscid swift]

I see

[livid wyvern]

take that as a "no"

[rain bobcat]

I only mvp control for oath

[forest palm]

too lazy for MVP control

[vale spindle]

I purposefully unlock level capped ships so comms dont select them

[rain bobcat]

oh that works?

[livid wyvern]

Is there a setting to autoburn grey ships when clearing nodes?

[stark quiver]

no

[rain bobcat]

no

[livid wyvern]

So I can auto farm and not get yoinked out to clear dock space

Damn..

[barren tapir]

buy more dock space

[livid wyvern]

Evil cat

[stark quiver]

when you guys level ships in w12, is boss fleet also a leveling fleet

[viscid swift]

Yes

[ancient ridge]

What are the go-to Auxilarries for early player for BBs, mostly got purple equipments

[stark quiver]

ight, maybe ill do that

[zenith heron]

May I know who is top 5 strongest CV Stand alone so that I'll just grind Amagi CV normally than just put all my resources dry?

[hollow gust]

Just work on amagi Saratoga and enterprise

[zenith heron]

Well I got Hakuryuu alr

But by standalone, is it Amagi who is stronger or Hakuryuu?

[storm heron]

Is there a way to turn on vanguard splashart on battle?

[soft raft]

No, and prob for a good reason considering how many times some vanguard ships spam their skills, that'll just constantly obscure half of your screen

[balmy skiff]

anyways.
Rank these 4 ships for limit break priority from high to low
Laff2,CVmagi,Mogador and Unzen

[hollow gust]

Amagi unzen laff mog

[wind hazel]

i'd prioritize laf2 over unzen

especially if you wanna push campaign

[viscid swift]

it depends on what's higher priority tbh

[hollow gust]

That’s fair

[sly haven]

i cant remember but is there a way to sign in to an account or will my account be lost?

i assume that means yes, in which case thanks

[keen sable]

Every maintenance the game tells you how to bind your account so you don't lose it

[sly haven]

ok thx

[gaunt dagger]

Are the emergency commissions random?

[torn latch]

It is RNG yes

[gaunt dagger]

Damn so no way to get more gem commissions

[plain saffron]

Rng spawn rng proc rate whenever you finish 1 fight

Technically if you play more you have more chances of getting them

[gaunt dagger]

I see

Also is prinz eugen worth replacing with roon

[torn latch]

Lol no, unless you are playing some niche content when Eugen is better than her (like in EX content or smthing like that), but that was what ppl used long time ago, dunno if they still doing it now

Especially with much better ship around

[gaunt dagger]

I mean like roon instead of eugen

[torn latch]

Oh, yeah roon is better in general

[gaunt dagger]

Or is there like another easily accessible ca I’m missing

[torn latch]

Portland.......

[gaunt dagger]

I have Portland but I need 1 more

[storm heron]

anchorage

[torn latch]

Anchorage (fuck slow mode)

[gaunt dagger]

Alright

[normal frost]

Is wichita meta worth building?

[torn latch]

For fleet tech sure

Well you can say that to most META ship anyway

[plain saffron]

And event ships

[wet prairie]

Event ends this Thursday right?

[viscid swift]

Next Thursday

[bold cove]

Meta does contribute to tech?

Well, im better lev them up

[stone sluice]

What fighter or db is best to use on Amagi CV for Nagato meta?

[viscid swift]

Tenrai

[deep solstice]

ok i need some help understanding the clearance mechanics for campaign. if i clear all the enemies does that always give me 100% clearance? or does it depend on the chapter and stage?

[viscid swift]

no

100% clear is tied to how many runs you do

defeating all the enemies has no bearing on 100% clearing

[bold cove]

How many runs you do, some need 3 times, 4 times...

[storm heron]

it takes up to 10 times

[stone sluice]

I’m using my 2 tenrais on hakuryuu and shinano
Should I change equipment?

[soft raft]

The fuck kinda content are you doing to require 10 runs to 100%

[bold cove]

When you finish 1 stage for the first time, it will appear %, if 25% that stage need 3 more times to be 100%

[soft raft]

I don't recall any map taking any more than 5 times at most to 100%

[deep solstice]

so if i wanted to just push as far as possible i jsut do the escorts until boss shows up and then do boss and repeat until i get 100% clearance. i can come back and get the other stars later right?

[storm heron]

15-4 takes less times?

[viscid swift]

yes

[bold cove]

Yeah

[soft raft]

I mean we don't count hard resets due to W14-15 RNG into the # of runs for 100% clear

[viscid swift]

15-4 takes 6 or 7, definitely not 10

[stone sluice]

6 times

[torn latch]

It does now, it wasn't used to be like that yeah

So a good reason to develop your meta ship

[bold cove]

Between Hood, Hiei meta and nagato meta, only Hood is a good flagship?

[dusk maple]

Nagato

[sweet delta]

Hood is usually the worst of them

But you can't max nagato yet

[lone knoll]

is there a way to powerheal tru a op Si mission? aside from regroup and rest

[jaunty vault]

ever heard of unicorn?

[lone knoll]

im stuck on the practice enforcer

[jaunty vault]

oh

yeah no just get better levels/ships/gears

[lone knoll]

boss is left with 50%hp nvm maybe this run i can do it

[forest palm]

what are you even doing, what are you using

[lone knoll]

u gave me luck ty

[lone knoll]

very bad team, im still using only 1 fleet

but i think i did itnow i just rest and regroup and gg

[jaunty vault]

isn't practice enforcer an abyssal

[lone knoll]

it shows a red chat box so story node

[forest palm]

judging by the background of that screen, yes

[plain saffron]

Or you can just read the title on top left

[lone knoll]

i did it holy finally

[true kraken]

Anyone has the link to ship tier ranking?

[fluid brook]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home
this one?

[true kraken]

Thanks

Btw, what does meta ship good at?

[fluid brook]

Which meta? if you mean Meta Ship (Faction) mostly for tech fleet altho theres some gold Metas that are good

If you meant the other META ships, that will depend in what context we are talking about

[true kraken]

Are they useable in Opsi only?

[fluid brook]

No, either Faction or the ships

Sorry got confused

[true kraken]

Those have black frame

[fluid brook]

Theres no ship that are only for Campaign or Opsi, all ships are can be used for both Campaign and Opsi, altho there are ship restrictions about the same ship for fleet building

[fluid brook]

Yes, they might be good, specially the gold ones, but not all, some are good because they drop good tech or because they can do the job good, and they can be used in either Campaign, Opsi, Meta Fights or Event Stages

[true kraken]

Oh

[fluid brook]

Those with black frames are the Meta Faction cuz they entering their Emo phase

[frank pulsar]

meta ship in general not worth using
iirc you have access to a lot of ur already right? you wont be using most of them

[torn latch]

Unless you want those fleet tech points

[jaunty vault]

meta tech points do be useless

[frank pulsar]

the 120 stat bonuses yea, but not the tech point

[true kraken]

I have tons of them but never use one, I feel like most of gacha ships is way beyond my demands and for most of game content so I dont see META any need beside fleet techs

[true kraken]

How do u know that

[plain saffron]

Meta are like gold event ships, some good some bad some very good

[jaunty vault]

@plain saffron what do we got tools for

[plain saffron]

And none used because we use UR

[frank pulsar]

meta ships kinda painfully average overall
although there are some that see usage now and then like jintsuu and bearn

[plain saffron]

for that duh

[frank pulsar]

i remember you
im pretty sure youre an older player than me, so itll make sense that you have access to rainbows

[jaunty vault]

[true kraken]

[plain saffron]

As someone who doesn't have gacha ships, META have quite a lot of good BB

[jaunty vault]

you do have gacha ships, on your main

[plain saffron]

[jaunty vault]

i remember yami too

[true kraken]

I do have access to UR, but it make the game too easy, that why Im trying to touch some Meta

[jaunty vault]

use common ships

[frank pulsar]

then use ship like qem i guess

the game doesnt feel easy at all even with ur imho

[vital phoenix]

Is it possible to beat chapter 13 with poverty gear?

[jaunty vault]

depends on what you classsify as poverty

[soft raft]

You frankly should've already moved on from poverty gear by the time you decide to attempt W13

There's no rush to clear anything past W12 tho tbh

[hollow ridge]

does this UR pity 200 goes away once UR event is over or its like permanent unlike you get one or till another UR comes and replaces it? Im at a stage where i need 2 more copies to mlb her my first UR character and i already got 1 UR bulin from monthly shop and gonna get the 2nd UR bulin from the UR beginner event with 2 missions left. Also, another question, is it really important to mlb her or should i save for next UR due to limited resources like my current cubes as in the image lol

[jaunty vault]

pity count goes away, wouldn't recommend pulling for dupes

[sinful elk]

Chat is this gun good

[jaunty vault]

it is important to mlb ships you're using

[hollow ridge]

so save my remaining cubes and just get the 2nd UR bulin from event to mlb her? since pity is already done halfway now

[zenith heron]

a niche CL gun if you need Anti Air

[sinful elk]

Niche? so its not useful?

[jaunty vault]

it is not useful

[zenith heron]

in some cases but overall yeah

[hollow ridge]

so save my cubes now? no more 3x daily summons on her for daily mission and just go back to 1x light summon?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[hollow ridge]

ok

[sinful elk]

Also is musashi rerun near

[elfin thunder]

hey all, trying to decide between MLB Amagi or Mogador next. dont have a dire need for either but both will be nice to have

[hollow ridge]

oh yeah, i forgot I can get another UR bulin from the current event 30k points, not just the beginner one too. damm

[plain saffron]

Next is roma so nope

[sinful elk]

I can keep go on gambling

[hollow ridge]

23k points rn hehe, my oil rip

after this, i can finally oil up and mlb my amagi with 2x UR bulins

[vital phoenix]

Is 380ish for vanguard ship aa considered decent?

[hollow ridge]

after oath, do i get a diff amagi cv skin?

[soft raft]

Amagi CV does not have a oath skin

[hollow ridge]

like wedding... oh. rip my ring

[soft raft]

We've got Roma and Blucher events to rerun first before Musashi gets her turn

[sinful elk]

That seems quiet long to save up

[soft raft]

Could be sooner than you think, who knows

[hollow ridge]

does musashi UR got oath skin?

just 1 UR mission left, which is to clear 6-4 stage and can finally mlb my first ever UR; amagi cv. I thing its pointless to save that UR bulin for next UR since from hearing you guys, they need to be maxed out to work really good.

[sweet delta]

AA stat alone doesn't mean much, a ship could have 380 AA and not be able to use an AA gun

[soft raft]

All ships need to be MLB to be at their maximum potential

In the case of URs, it's more like if you're unsure who to focus on MLB'ing and you don't have 4 UR Bullins on hand or able to be purchased, it's more worthwhile to keep onto them till later so you can MLB one in one go

Esp if a new UR is expected to come out in the next month or so

[hollow ridge]

oh i see, but since we just did get the UR event - amagi, will there be another UR event this soon? im not sure how frequently UR comes in a year

[finite crag]

every 3 months or so give or take

[soft raft]

New URs have basically been every February, May, September, and December

As for UR reruns, those are less predictable but reruns at least give you a few free pulls for your trouble

[hollow ridge]

i see, this is why i should save the cubes now and i'll just mlb Amagi since im close and already invested previous UR bulins anyway. As for whatever next UR comes, i'll get one copy each for collection. I also got 1 oath left so might save that for Musashi oath skin cuz my amagi showed no response...lol

[bold cove]

Basically 1 UR from proto shop per month, with no event give out Ur, need at least 4 months to MLB an UR ship?

[forest palm]

more like 2.5 months

[finite crag]

1.5 from specialized cores each month

1 from cruise pass however long that is and 1 from ur event milestones

[soft raft]

And a one time bullin from specialized core missions

[bold cove]

Ah the milestones and cruise pass, i forgot

[forest palm]

you can make 6k cores per month

[finite crag]

yea 1.5 bulins

[bold cove]

1k from medal shop right?

[finite crag]

yea

[forest palm]

medal shop cores don't count towards the monthly cap

[raven marsh]

are there any war archives worth farming for gear

[forest palm]

nope

[stark quiver]

i mean theres the cosmic kicks

[bold cove]

Resources seem reasonable, love this game

[forest palm]

that's not really farming, so much as doing 60 runs

[finite crag]

ur bulins is rough if you need to catch up on alot of urs though

[bold cove]

Nah, im just played over a month

[finite crag]

exactly

[bold cove]

Just a walk in a park, with cubes saving and UR banner timelines, i have no reason to freak out for UR mlb

[finite crag]

take into account reruns aswell its definitely looking rough for you

[deep solstice]

is it worth shifting to two battleships in the main fleet instead of two carriers for chapter 7 becasue of the increase in suicide boat pressure or does it not really matter?

[bold cove]

Doesnt need, there so much ships to play

[finite crag]

just because a ur is a rerunning ur doesnt take away from their power

well just be wise with ur bulins and youll be fine

[forest palm]

it would help catch some suicide boats, but more importantly is if you're using a good auxiliary gun on the BBs so they can kill the suicide boats in a quick enough time

[bold cove]

Yeah, if rerun vanguard i will focus on it, my front lines not look so good

[finite crag]

you should focus on every ur event actually not just frontline

for example musashi is the next ur event lined up for a rerun and shes really good

just because its a rerun doesnt mean its any less worth it than a new ur

[deep solstice]

auxilary gun as in secondary gun?

[bold cove]

I will pulling for her if i have enough cubes, even i have enough cubes gold is a pain in the A

[deep solstice]

is it worth going back to previous world to farm for them?

[finite crag]

no

not worth farming for any gear in campaign

[raven marsh]

is the best node for a mix of levelling ships and gold 12-4?

[finite crag]

thats what people usually do yea

[hollow ridge]

just how worth is mlb UR amagi? its gonna be my first UR and that's mlb at that too

[finite crag]

worth

[deep solstice]

so i looked at the tier list for pennsylvania and nevada who im using as bbs for main fleet to deal with the suicide boats, and i don't have any of the purple gear they recommend much less the gold ones, is any puprle one ok for them or are there any u recommend. I can show which ones i can switch to

[forest palm]

open some Purple/Gold German Gear Boxes look for the Twin 128 purple

[deep solstice]

already opened all the purple and gold gear boxes i have and composed the blue and gray ones too

[humble perch]

Who do I give a second quad 152mm CL gun to?

Helena?

Really not many choices

[stark quiver]

Who are your choices

[humble perch]

Not ply since she has the first one

[finite crag]

if you use helena then probably her yea

if doing like w15 give it to a bb

[humble perch]

ooo good idea

[light trail]

can someone give me opsi fleet advice in https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1251088141381533808 pls starting from here: #1251088141381533808 message

[raven marsh]

is pr6 catchup going to be paired with coinable pr5?

[cobalt rapids]

according to prev years yes

[raven marsh]

any idea when that usually happens?

[cobalt rapids]

january

[plain saffron]

Cny/lny

[raven marsh]

the DRs have a different coinable schedule tho right

[deep solstice]

as f2p all gems except for first three/four slots of dorm and 800 for second floor go into dock expansion right?

[plain saffron]

1 season behind

[cobalt rapids]

usually dr coining is 1 season behind
so if pr5 gets gold coining, pr4 DR should get it aswell

[plain saffron]

Pr5 coinable dr4 coinable

[coarse heron]

Pretty much yeah

[opaque trout]

Definitely comes from the Purple IB boxes

[deep solstice]

Don’t have a single one. Guess I am just super unlucky?

[opaque trout]

Otherwise can just craft from prereqs

[deep solstice]

is that gear lab? if so i don't have it unlocked yet. need 9 more commander levels

[opaque trout]

Shouldn't take too long

[peak moat]

How important is haku fate sim? Can she be slotted without it?

[finite crag]

I think 18% more dmg

But shes still solid without it

But its still more dmg

[peak moat]

Ty

[wet badge]

during ur reruns, will their weapons be in the shop and if there are 2 urs, will the other ship also be in shop

[deep solstice]

I’m thinking of getting a second fleet ready for chapter 9 while I catch up there by passively leveling the ships in form while I sleep. Any recommendations for a mob and boss fleet?

[eternal basalt]

We don't know, first 2 UR rerun is Laffey II, still a long while to go (2026)

[hidden garnet]

U have many SSR Bullins. Ryuuhou will help you in mob fleet

As a healer

Go for 6 star Ryuuhou

[hollow gust]

You don't need Ryuuhou

Unicorn takes care of healing for the first 13 chapters

Save those bulins for enterprise and hood

[hidden garnet]

Yea I think it's more wise also. U have Unicorn. If u go mob and boss only 1 fleet, go ahead

[deep solstice]

i do use her in my main fleet for now but i wanna start leveling ships for second boss fleet.
im thinking my mob fleet will look like unicorn, nevada, pennsylvania(flag), pheonix(main tank), laffy, cleveland

as for my boss fleet im thinking portland(main tank), pittsburgh, and indianpolis, but i need recommendations for the main fleet

[hollow gust]

You have nowhere near the ships for 2 fleets , your main fleet isn't even good yet. Other main main fleet your ships just suck

Pittsburg is a decent investment for later on , but you should be retrofitting Unicorn Portland and then Laffey

For now stick with your unicorn Pennsylvania Ranger Portland Helena Laffey

You should be rushing rookie missions for Nelson and the free SR in conjunction with getting ships like enterprise and hood from medal shop

[deep solstice]

unfortunately the shop rotation right now doesn't have cvs or bbs. so im gonna have to wait a while for them.

also when is it recommended to start building second fleet then?

[hollow gust]

When you actually have some of those ships

[plain saffron]

Are you preparing for chapter 9 or already cleared chapter 9

[deep solstice]

i should be able to atleast get there or beat it tmrw

[hybrid grove]

wait you can get hiei META from stage drop? i got 2 of her

[plain saffron]

Yes

Shop ship also drop from b3/d3 and 0.5% gacha

[primal silo]

Is there an opsi port shop priority list?

[rose cosmos]

idk how she actually fairs meta wise but vanguards are basically unkillable pairing uni with zuihou lol

[rose whale]

give me a team for the event's EX map please? 😄

[rose whale]

IMO buy the AP boxes and gearlab prints first. then gearlab mats. ignore the repair

[primal silo]

Thanks

[rose whale]

oh btw for gearlab print and mat, don't buy elite or lower. just get all the sr and ur

[plain saffron]

Simple version: buy everything

[storm heron]

Is amagi double wyvern good for w15? the tierlist description says she has low AA although the stat difference with independence is small, and she can carry high efficiency intercepting planes

[plain saffron]

You get enough and a lot of excess after buying everything assuming you clear opsi

I still buy lower rarity mats because you never know when they'll allow upcrafting

[cedar willow]

i've just built a ship in 6:33:00 and i got amagi cv, i thought her construction time is 4:40:00?

[shell willow]

a single ship?

[cedar willow]

yea

[primal silo]

ends in a few days for this month, right?
Also, nagato meta too?

[shell willow]

interesting, might be a bug but we cant really do much with it

[cedar willow]

haha, if it was 6:30:00, i should have NJ instead

[shell willow]

metas last about 3 months, opsi resets monthly

the meta period is shown in game somewhere

[primal silo]

Thanks for the clarification
I see it in the sync for nagato, but was making sure

[storm heron]

Special tokens
Rainbow Ordnance = Rainbow Design > Rainbow Prototype Upgrade > Gold Ordnance = Prototype upgrade = Gold plates > Gold materials > Opsi enhance materials > Gold Design

Coins
AP Box > Abyssals Siren Loggers > Hidden Loggers > Special tokens if you need

[primal silo]

Thank you.

[storm heron]

I feel the most impactful special tokens income is from strongholds, don't forget to clear them

[primal silo]

Okay.

[storm heron]

Max 3 on the map, every monday they add one

[foggy chasm]

is cl gun aux or dd gun aux better for mainfleet if i can pick either

since i dont know how big is the +35 fp stat

[cursive lark]

CL is mostly better for those who can equip

CL guns give you 45 iirc

You pick CL gun mostly because of it interception capabilities, the fp is just cherry on top

[foggy chasm]

i see

also, i find it that SS doesnt do much with their guns right

like maybe less than 1% of their dmg?

[wide mirage]

What's a good level for stage 13
Lv118 ? Or is 115 good enough?

[shell willow]

there is no good level, the higher the better

[wide mirage]

Back to 8-4 mines i go

[finite crag]

what?

[finite crag]

why are you farming 8-4??

[wide mirage]

Ship drop

[finite crag]

use an oil saving fleet for it dont try to farm xp there

[wide mirage]

Oh right btw besides 12-4
What are other good exp nodes

[finite crag]

just stick to 12-4

[jaunty vault]

fwiw, 12-1 is better

[coarse heron]

12-4 is better for coins though

[plain saffron]

Unless you want coins

[jaunty vault]

i dont see them asking for coins

[wind hazel]

📠

[plain saffron]

Yes but it's not wrong

Just adding more info to what you said

[finite crag]

mfw i cant add anything else without the askers permissions

[wind hazel]

i like how people say 12-4 is better when he was asking what is good exp node BESIDES 12-4

[plain saffron]

I guess additional info is not allowed in gph anymore

But i said coins not exp

[finite crag]

yea cut that out

[wind hazel]

what are good healer ship besides unicorn?

replies: stick to unicorn

do you guys see how helpful that is?

[shell willow]

[plain saffron]

Well that's what most of gph said nowadays

[finite crag]

thats not wrong either

[wind hazel]

it's called being not helpful to the question being asked

[plain saffron]

Wait is it even directed at me

[wind hazel]

maybe

[jaunty vault]

i think this needs to end

[inland shoal]

[jaunty vault]

no way a gph mod in gph

[plain saffron]

Well i never said what you said i said

Cooper said 12-1 is better
I add "unless you want coins"

[inland shoal]

Best would be to give a good answer that actually answers the question asked. Whether you tell them to do 13-1, 12-1 or 12-4, at least say why / what the advantages/disadvantages are

[jaunty vault]

nagami you made your point, so did everyone else

[plain saffron]

But additional info is not allowed in gph :madgeburg:

[abstract marsh]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[cobalt rapids]

i will assume the advice was right to ignore alsace for yk2
meaning u got enough bbs and then i would pick amagi between yk2 and her

[elfin hollow]

@atomic abyss whenever u available we can make the second fleet me at 9 Q_Q

[jaunty vault]

huh amagi only has 8 planes?

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[jaunty vault]

how good is she

[cobalt rapids]

clearly bad

[fervent hearth]

most just say the name of the ship and don’t explain

[frank pulsar]

t5, completely bricked
100% dont recommend to use

[jaunty vault]

k thanks guys, ill just save my cubes instead of pulling for her

[cobalt rapids]

more dmg than nano, more support than haku

[jaunty vault]

but is she more dmg than haku and more support than nano

ig her barrages are good if she does better than shinano

[cobalt rapids]

potentially could, realistically no

[jaunty vault]

[cobalt rapids]

shes t7 actually

[crimson glacier]

peak gph

[jaunty vault]

gph cannot be peak without you insulting others

[atomic abyss]

You don't got the ships unfortunately
We'll have to put it off

[elfin hollow]

what should i be looking for

[atomic abyss]

Have you gotten all the event ships?

[elfin hollow]

who else is there apart from amagi again

[atomic abyss]

Watarase, Suzunami and Hiei META
Hiei META also appears in the shop and as a map drop on B3/D3/SP

[wide mirage]

Time to burn muh oil to turn it into exp

[atomic abyss]

So farm the event for hiei meta

[atomic abyss]

Put your Owari in flag

It'll make things much smoother

[elfin hollow]

yeah i have all

[crimson glacier]

is that boss fleet perseus

[atomic abyss]

Also, Kron at the front, Helena in the middle

[wide mirage]

Yeah

[elfin hollow]

well i guess not hiei but i can buy her from the shop

[atomic abyss]

Perseus is kinda ass for boss fleets

[crimson glacier]

perseus is probably one of the worst ships in the game for bosses

[atomic abyss]

Aye

[crimson glacier]

but whatever if it works for you

[cobalt rapids]

i dont think it matters for xp grinding

[cobalt rapids]

is kron mlb ?

[wide mirage]

Yes

[elfin hollow]

should suzunami be part of the second fleet?

[atomic abyss]

No

If you've gotten all the event ships, stick to building 1x in light everyday

[elfin hollow]

oh yeah thats what ive been doing

[atomic abyss]

How much event currency do you have

[elfin hollow]

10.5?

need to buy hiei so ig 2.5

[plain saffron]

How do you get 0.5 event points

[atomic abyss]

No, farm till 30k for the rainbow bulin

[wide mirage]

Oh right i also have unzen but I'm not sure if i can sandwich her in here
Because Idk if she would carry me on stage 13

[atomic abyss]

You have a lot of grinding to do, best get started

[elfin hollow]

should i stop the story for now im at like just started 9-3

[atomic abyss]

Stop story yes

[elfin hollow]

but it barely cleared 9-2

alright ill see if i can do D in the event

[atomic abyss]

D1 should be possible

[elfin hollow]

this is what im running idk if i should move anybody

[jolly wasp]

How to spent , all this oil ?

Beside exp grinding campaign..

[inland shoal]

Coin grinding campaign

[atomic abyss]

What did I tell you about your fleets...

[plain saffron]

Grinding event

[inland shoal]

Event and campaign are the best ways to spend oil

If you have too much of it and can't get rid of it, you can buy dorm food, but it's pretty inefficient

[elfin hollow]

wait let me swap laffey oops

[atomic abyss]

You don't have UR bulins
So move all URs to fleet 2

Vittorio Veneto (adjust her to be in 1st slot), Unicorn, Ticonderoga
Portland, Laffey, Helena

Ignore fleet 2 entirely, solo the map with fleet 1

Yes, even with 0 ammo

[sharp socket]

how much does complete eld retro cost

[jolly wasp]

The dream events ?

this ?

[wind hazel]

this much

[elfin hollow]

oh shit yeah mb

[sharp socket]

i cant math, is it the same as sandy

[wind hazel]

coin wise yes

[sharp socket]

so its like 70k coins alr

[wind hazel]

including mlb cost it's 48700 per ship

[jolly wasp]

So, secretary, earn more exp ? beside being cute on main page..

[crimson glacier]

no

[atomic abyss]

they gain affection passively, if they are in the 1st slot, up to 90

[crimson glacier]

secretary does nothing except give the ship a very very slow affi regen up to 90

[jolly wasp]

than, what effect exp gain ?

[crimson glacier]

having high morale, getting mvp

[inland shoal]

What? The retro alone is already 58k

[coarse heron]

The ship set as the main secretary in the leftmost slot gains 1 point of affinity every 300-320 minutes.

[plain saffron]

Change bp type to DD and yes

It's actually 0.1-0.3 per 6 minutes

[coarse heron]

Takes 45 hours for the main secretary ship to get to 90 affinity passively from 50

[atomic abyss]

take note

[plain saffron]

My bad
0.01-0.03

[wind hazel]

wait is it?

[atomic abyss]

this only works WHILE the game is open

[plain saffron]

I need to actually test that again to confirm

[atomic abyss]

so it's 45h of the game being open

[coarse heron]

wait really? I always read it doesn't need it open

[crimson glacier]

45 hours? that sounds really weird

[coarse heron]

it's just even slower when closed allegedly

[atomic abyss]

or however long

[wind hazel]

oh i didn't include the 2x

[crimson glacier]

5 hours times 40

[coarse heron]

I just went off a reddit comment I didn't do the math myself

[crimson glacier]

doesnt sound like 45 hours

[plain saffron]

800 minutes assuming you always get high roll

[jolly wasp]

owh...

Thats why my laffey gain most exp ..

[plain saffron]

My bad. 8000

I always types 0.x instead of 0.0x

[plain saffron]

Affinity doesn't affect exp gain

[atomic abyss]

morale does

[inland shoal]

Yeah looks like 400 hours max, 133 hours min

[crimson glacier]

yeah that person wasnt part of affi topic

[jolly wasp]

nono, i meant my Laffey is 50 lv and deliver most damage

Battle MVP, so she had most exp gain ..

[plain saffron]

Ouh

[crimson glacier]

thats how it tends to be, you get mvp, so you get more stats earlier, so you get more mvps

[jolly wasp]

lv60 laffey with, her teammates

[atomic abyss]

well no shit, she is the highest levelled by a significant margin

[crimson glacier]

and limit breaks make massive difference too in dmg output

[plain saffron]

Shit have like 30+ lvl more than others

[atomic abyss]

level advantage affects damage

[potent pecan]

what is the next UR rerun?

[coarse heron]

(probably) Musashi if they don't decide to fuck with us

[elfin hollow]

is amagi only usable at mlb or any earlier

[crimson glacier]

probably pretty meh before mlb

[whole crypt]

all ships are meh before MLB, effectively

[coarse heron]

main fleet are especially bad, though

[atomic abyss]

only at mlb

as with any ship

[elfin hollow]

okok

[plain saffron]

Did anyone ping me

[whole crypt]

vanguards have their own set of issues

you just don't usually notice

[atomic abyss]

yes

[plain saffron]

[elfin hollow]

do the materials for the retrofits only drop from bosses?

[atomic abyss]

yes

well there are 1 time 3* rewards

[elfin hollow]

im close to both laffey and unicorn

[jolly wasp]

i feed her with EXP data pack, for the newcomer mission, thats why she is 30+ lv than others..

[wide mirage]

This little fella boost up exp too right?

[atomic abyss]

everything, from exp gain to morale loss

[wide mirage]

Alrighto

[elfin hollow]

should i be using these when i farm event or at all

[jaunty vault]

time savers, morale consumers
use when you don't have time and don't care about stretching out your morale for more fights

[jolly wasp]

what is morale ?

[storm olive]

Is it worth switching from pr6 to pr7 to get the pr7 converging torps

[cobalt rapids]

finish ur seasons one at time

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity#Morale

[jolly wasp]

i cant, beat event first level TAT ...

[cobalt rapids]

lvl ur ships more
limit break em
use better gear

[warm latch]

dont level just laffey, you want your whole fleet to be leveled

[ancient ridge]

Which would y'all say be best to finish first in war archive if i havent unlocked most of the characters they offering?

[warm latch]

none of the ships tbh, the cosmic kicks gear is probably the best thing you can get from war archive

[ancient ridge]

Oke i'll check it out, tyty

[blissful atlas]

working on making a Sakura empire team (iK FaCioN FlEet BaD) anyway im trying to decide on a front line
rn the line up is atm
zuihou (healer)\ shinano (flag) \amagi(cv)
blank\ uzen \ shimakaze

i was thinking either yukikaze or hatsuzki or moving shimakaze to main tank and using watarase

[jolly wasp]

im grinding them slowly now ,after i learn that there is better used for EXP data pack...

Maybe they will catch up after, a week or so

[ancient ridge]

Uhmmm whats the file name? I can't find it xD

[warm latch]

i cant remember

[ancient ridge]

Aight i'll keep searching

[warm latch]

polaris something sounds right

its an sp event iirc

[tame jungle]

Passionate polaris iirc

[ancient ridge]

Found it tyty, it was on sp page xD

[undone plover]

Depends where u want that fleet
I would also use nagato if u are faction fleeting since she is cute a strong faction buffer and u need a BB in campaign (mostly)

Either put unzen as tank or use azuma
Shimakaze will not be able to main tank anything

Noshiro is also a good tank iirc
Idr if sakura had better tanks

[whole crypt]

Musashi hits harder than Nagato buffs for so there's that
at the end of the day it depends on what you're using the fleet for

[warm latch]

isnt shouhou a better main healer than zuihou?

[blissful atlas]

im using it for mobbing since i use EU for bossing (york2+enterprise+sanfran shreds bosses)

[undone plover]

Tbh I assumed they dont have musashi but yeah u prolly should use her instead

[whole crypt]

cases where Shouhou might be better you're probably screwed anyway

that or it doesn't matter

[undone plover]

I doubt u will be able to do chapter 15 with it but should he fine up to ch14
Go nuts

[whole crypt]

mobbing where

[undone plover]

And do like nntktt suggested
Use sushi if u have her

I think baltimore would be a better combo with ykii and enty but san fran is the better ship overall

[whole crypt]

San Francisco is fine for tanking, no idea who the other 2 vanguards are

[blissful atlas]

zuihou has larger wider spred heals imo

[undone plover]

Should prolly use guam eldridge laffey anyway

[blissful atlas]

OS

[undone plover]

Or sandy

[atomic abyss]

how does zuihou have wider spread heals

[warm latch]

zuihou only heals 2 vanguard ships

[whole crypt]

Shouhou heals whole vanguard
Zuihou heals up to 3 vanguards depending

[atomic abyss]

zuihou heals at least 1 vanguard and 1 main

[blissful atlas]

she focuses the lowest with higher heals (unless im reading the % wrong possible going on 49hrs no sleep)

[atomic abyss]

she also does less damage

[whole crypt]

Zuihou also heals based on her own HP and not the target's, which is advantageous on lower HP vanguards

[atomic abyss]

things like CA/Bs will benefit less

[whole crypt]

but anyway OS mobbing is whatever, you can carry with like 1 or 2 ships most of the time so who you use doesn't really matter

just go ham with what you want

[blissful atlas]

i use guam sandy northhampton2 for bossing the slow northham2 gives makes it easier to aim the barrage from sandy(and stacking debuffs) and enterprise to not wiff faster bosses

and thanks for the imput yall much contemplating is needed

[elfin hollow]

are u able to craft t3 retro blueprint with t2?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[elfin hollow]

thought so

[blissful atlas]

confused on how she does less damage shes sr doesn't she have more stats then a epic rf?

[atomic abyss]

her planes

shouhou may have worse stats, yes

but fighters dont have nearly as high damage as dive bombers

sure - shouhou lacks the interception that zuihou has

but in opsi, there's little enemy planes, so that's a non-issue

@blissful atlas

[blissful atlas]

i was thinkin of just giving her planes to apply debuff anyway like the barracuda 831

[atomic abyss]

those are shit

[cobalt rapids]

in opsi zuihou can use bf109 which makes her much better at dealing dmg

[atomic abyss]

those are only good if your slot efficiency was abysmal to begin with (like say Ark Royal)

[blissful atlas]

would be the only source of armor break in the fleet with a low cd on a healer that dosnt scale on avi for healing just theory crafting anyway

[atomic abyss]

the loss of damage from using a shitty plane isnt made up by the paltry armour break debuff

unless, as umi said, you have spare BF109Gs to throw on Zuihou

[blissful atlas]

i mean its a healer i dont really exspect it to hit hard

[atomic abyss]

the faster the battle ends from killing enemies faster, the less healing your fleet needs

that's part of why unicorn retro (and perseus to a lesser extent) are the best healers

[elfin hollow]

alright chat what are the odds i get my last t3 from this LOL

i just want uni Q_Q

[atomic abyss]

...community gathered data says less than 10%

[cobalt rapids]

3* rewards for X-4 guarantee 2 t3 retro bps for carriers

[soft dagger]

go up

[runic bluff]

so my bb fleet in opsi consists of soyuz/zwei/alsace...............I wanna put vanguard....who will I replace with?

[elfin hollow]

i in fact got blues

[atomic abyss]

none

that is currently the best BB fleet for non CMs

[runic bluff]

CM?

[atomic abyss]

challenge mode

[late flame]

challenge mode

[atomic abyss]

if challenge mode, you'd replace alsace with vanguard

otherwise, the only other case you'd see someone being dropped, is by taking out soyuz to use with nakhimov

[ancient ridge]

can i change fleet units once operation siren alr started?

[runic bluff]

in allied ports

[atomic abyss]

blue ports, top right, order, fleet deployment

[runic bluff]

those ports that is colored blue

[ancient ridge]

oh found it tyty!

[runic bluff]

what challenge mode??? does the hard mode arbiter one of them?

[boreal wagon]

challenge mode is separate from opsi entirely its next to where daily raids are

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Challenge_Mode

[soft dagger]

Is there a particular cause behind that?

[boreal wagon]

alsace loses value in longer fights

[atomic abyss]

alsace damage falls behind other BBs in longer battles - her damage is only higher due to her preload

vanguard, while has less damage more consistently buffs her teammate's damage instead

[runic bluff]

is musashi still relevant if I get her on her rerun?

[atomic abyss]

CM is the only place where battles go over 90-120s

[runic bluff]

she is the only UR I dont have

[atomic abyss]

musashi is mostly relevant for w15 mobbing

she is the best option there

[soft dagger]

how long should the fight last before Alsace's value declines?

[atomic abyss]

100s is when she begins to get overtaken by her compatriots

in other words, only CM

opsi stuff are 90s, metas are almost all 80s (rodney being the exception), campaign battles lose the S clear after 120s

since CM battles usually last around, 5 minutes

[blazing shale]

This gud for heavy? Or does Amagi want the Ryusei? And any way to improve these builds? This is for when Amagi replacing Haku does become a thing

[atomic abyss]

amagi replacing haku is a thing

the most important thing is that amagi and shinano timing match impla

the +10 saiuns are fine there for now, but +13 saiuns wont sync

[blazing shale]

Oh well

I was going to +13 whichever planes fit

[atomic abyss]

so you may want to run the calcs to ensure that they sync with say, +13 ryuuseis

[boreal wagon]

why does +13 vs +10 matter for timing

[atomic abyss]

nano does want to be closer to anyways

[blazing shale]

Hmm alright