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left cedar
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i'm using 96/81/47 since ... idr 2022 ?

eager mulch
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I just never used subs pixelamaginom

coarse heron
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I've been using 47/37/101 for ages ShiSleep
once 96 is 120 I'll replace 101 with her

normal frost
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I've a lot of them. I just never really looked into actually buidling fleets and stuff

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And now I can't get past 14-4 so am actually trying to figure out how things work

tropic tusk
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do u guys actually move the subs on W?

hollow gust
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It's these three bis nowadays , if you don't have them mixing subs like Davinci or u557 with ironblood is fine

hollow gust
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Ehhssex it's whatever

coarse heron
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Also doesn't Albacore need her augment to be better than KMS

tropic tusk
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augment isnt hard to get all u have to do is craft it right?

hollow gust
forest palm
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Albacore has the better barrage iirc so she takes flag

keen sable
normal frost
stark quiver
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Do you guys have max sub tech

coarse heron
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it's also funny how subs going from almost no damage to stealing MVP regularly

viscid swift
keen sable
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I have like 0 because 120'ing subs is...

viscid swift
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and honestley I'm planning to leave subs till last for leveling

coarse heron
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it's easy just turn on "auto sub" when doing 12-4 NepSmug

stark quiver
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I only have 3 subs 120 and that’s kinda all I need

frank pulsar
keen sable
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Don't get me wrong. Nearly all my subs have the xp for 120. I just choose not to do it

stark quiver
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It’s time for me to grind sub tech then JavSigh

frank pulsar
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ill prob raise like one sub a year EssexWheeze
i feel like it not worth the effort to keep updating it

coarse heron
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that's why you just pick 3 subs to use forever ShiSleep

viscid swift
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I just don't have the cogs to spare for it

coarse heron
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Real madmen 125 their subs

late flame
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brb

frank pulsar
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i 125 my ldv wdym

late flame
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cant be me also i has no ldv

eager mulch
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hi

tropic tusk
coarse heron
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I oathed 47 wdym

tropic tusk
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all of them

eager mulch
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is amagi (chan) good?

coarse heron
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nyet

tropic tusk
viscid swift
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So I'm the "normal" one then

frank pulsar
tropic tusk
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i want u556 meta so bad

viscid swift
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just wait for her rerun

tropic tusk
tropic tusk
frank pulsar
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556m is still like a year away

tropic tusk
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no rush but when she out ill just swap my 3u

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also hopping for Tempesta to rerun

fervent hearth
keen sable
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You do you. All subs add to your damage for about 30s.

deep solstice
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so i just unlocked research lab and shipyard,
me confused. i know they can hlep create gear bluepritns and get new ships but still a bit confuzzled as to the process and how to efficiently navigate it.

viscid swift
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if you just unlocked the shipyard then you can't afford to go about research efficiently, you can barely afford it at all period

tropic tusk
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just click on a random one as of now to just let their timer run

undone plover
late flame
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unless ahem whale but (speaking as a person who'd done exactly that) it aint worth it 😛

viscid swift
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just start work on Saint Louis,
set the research focus to 4 in the research academy, select Anchorage for catchup, and take some free researches whenever they pop up

that's about the extent of what you'll do with research in the early game

tropic tusk
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also there are packs in shop for research as a person that bought them i can tell u its not worth it as later on u can obtain them easy

late flame
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all it does is timeskip for cash yeah

tropic tusk
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ya u skip the research part and 1 click done it

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how many ships total are in this game?

hollow gust
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600-700

tropic tusk
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nice

little tree
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Does anyone know if Watarase gives decetn Tech points?

loud cedar
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Hey folks, just want to ask for clarification but the combat data packs that give exp are best used to turn into the blueprint looking things and not for speeding up the exp, right?

soft raft
loud cedar
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Thank ya

trim loom
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for Nagato META farming I just do my 3 joins, then farm until I get 100 coords and host once?

trim loom
tropic tusk
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yea 200ticket +3

trim loom
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darn, ty

vagrant panther
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Bosser, so triple Ryusei?

soft raft
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only in opsi in a syncing comp

vagrant panther
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Yeah. Need something to hold the boss in place. So torp focused, triple VIT-2 also works?

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Or should ignore the torpedo bias and mix with some dive bombers

soft raft
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depends on the comp
but generally you avoid Dive bombers if possible because they tend to be the more slower of the 3 planes in terms of reload time

vagrant panther
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True that.

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Ok thanks

frank pulsar
eager mulch
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me when I have to recalc my cv timings for the switch from ryuuseis to vit2s smolmagisleep

vagrant panther
frank pulsar
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oh mb
just use torp bombers over db for heavy yea
you kinda dont use db unless you need its aoe or skyraider (not just for amagi, this apply to all cv with omni slot for bossing)

eager mulch
frank pulsar
eager mulch
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where cooper

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I miss him

zenith swallow
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Among the URs, who should I prioritize in max limit break?

viscid swift
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how many ur bullins can you get

zenith swallow
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two more

viscid swift
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I hope you didn't spread them around before but anyway, Alsace and then Vanguard or Amagi CV

zenith swallow
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Some of them were just me being lucky with the event

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Aight, just max limit break Alsace, thanks.

thin haven
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Is this good for New Jersey?

stark quiver
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didnt you ask this earlier

soft raft
eager mulch
viscid swift
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if it's good enough for Amagi chan it's good enough for NJ

eager mulch
blissful hamlet
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is Ibuki with aug the ship with the highest preload damage?

viscid swift
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among vanguards or

blissful hamlet
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among vanguard

viscid swift
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probably

blissful hamlet
woeful spade
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how to farm gold fast?

viscid swift
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farm W12

woeful spade
fervent hearth
blissful hamlet
woeful spade
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do normal have req. like for hard (lvl,eva)

eager mulch
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no

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no

late flame
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what if two nos cancel each other out and becomes yes

woeful spade
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im using this team

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alright ,ill try to push my normal

weary gust
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That's good, just need levels and probably gear. You should be able to clear w9 with that as it is right now.

eager mulch
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“kitsune mask laffey can’t hurt you”
kitsune mask laffey:

pallid vortex
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As a new player should I be using all my UR gear design plans to craft my first 2 wyvern?

undone plover
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imo yes

versed elk
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hello is ex autoable this time

eager mulch
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hello yes it is

viscid swift
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they all are from now on

versed elk
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thanks whats the strat

eager mulch
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rainbow unga bunga

viscid swift
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usual single target medium armor boss fleets

stark quiver
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anti medium fleet

versed elk
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aight bet

pallid vortex
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convert till u have 2-3 wyverns then convert till u have 1-2mk7 then convert till u have 1-2 100kais

Is this advice safe to follow then

stark quiver
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depends on what you need

undone plover
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pretty safe
although I would do 2 wyvern 1 mk7 and save after
dec-jan we might get a gear lab update and doesnt hurt to have some designs saved for then

versed elk
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oh only if u play ex on hard mode it gives u score?

coarse heron
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yeah, easy mode is for the 500 cog crisps only

versed elk
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alright thanks, 500 chips is good

vagrant panther
viscid swift
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those are the types of planes you can equip in her first slot

eager mulch
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it can be any when mlb

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im wrong

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it’s fighter/db only

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I’m sorry I forgot I’ve just been leveling her like this

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also im very poor

coarse heron
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bro still got more oil than me BiskoLUL

little tree
edgy steeple
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Hello is this gun used at all?

viscid swift
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no

eager mulch
eager mulch
little tree
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Will Auxes ever be added to gear lab?

eager mulch
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🔮 AmagiNom
she is consulting the ball

finite crag
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did she gain any insight from the ball

eager mulch
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smolmagisleep
no

soft raft
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Sounds about right

vital phoenix
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Opsi CV vanguard: Laff2/Helena/Kazagumo

Is sirius a better replacement for helena? Or just more consistent option?

eager mulch
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less buff more consistency

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less helena cuteness

copper pine
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@eager mulch why your name is like this

late flame
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its terminal

placid wadi
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question to clear world 13, who to bring for frontline mob fleet? aside san diego because she's the AA queen
backline i got 2 french ship (for leveling reasons) and unicorn retro

copper pine
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cheshire?

late flame
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+CVs

copper pine
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you can put san diego to boss fleet and use cheshire as your sole AA for mobbing

placid wadi
copper pine
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laffey 2 is also powerful for it. i think her AA is decent

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cheshire then

placid wadi
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i forgot to mention NO UR ALLOWED

viscid swift
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why

finite crag
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shimanto isnt a ur

placid wadi
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because i when i saw guam and laffey2, i already knew i don't have them because the latest UR i have now is until mushashi

finite crag
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guam and laffey is after musa

south sequoia
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How about just posting your dock instead in a thread so we won't have to guess

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So people here can know your options

stark quiver
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make a thread

placid wadi
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alrighttt

copper pine
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i still haven't done 15-1 etc yet.. ugh....

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btw how is amagi CV doing compared to other CV ofc

finite crag
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doing good

copper pine
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better than shina haku?

stark quiver
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maybe

copper pine
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or different role wise

little tree
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~~Is haku nano Amagi fleet now ~~

stark quiver
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no
cuz no one is gonna timestop the enemy
unless its stationary the whole time
or other options

viscid swift
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it is for this meta

south sequoia
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Does cn have full amagi skill max yet

pallid vortex
finite crag
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what do people actually use spearfish for other than flexing

viscid swift
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It's an upgrade to the Wyvern for mobbing overall

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The rockets allow for better wave clearing and hitting enemies that the torpedoes would normally miss on the edges

finite crag
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ah

viscid swift
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It also reloads a decent bit faster

finite crag
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sounds good

vale halo
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is Prototype F8F Bearcat(Foat) T0 Design Good?

viscid swift
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Best seaplane probably but that's not a high bar

soft raft
queen jackal
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whats the base crit chance?

whole crypt
vale halo
finite crag
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and halford

whole crypt
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basically Halford since you don't use the retrofit BBVs

late flame
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i guess

finite crag
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is spearfish better than wyvern for single target?

whole crypt
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the only other ship that carries seaplanes and isn't dogshit is Chen Hai, but Chen Hai can use normal planes which will be better most of the time

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it is but you won't use either of them in some place where you'd want to focus on single

vale halo
finite crag
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yea ofc its just good to know

stark quiver
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whats hlafords classification in game

finite crag
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like for opsi mobbing its a little bonus i guess

whole crypt
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DD

sharp socket
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is drake gun a significant upgrade over the poverty CA gun

whole crypt
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which poverty gun

sweet delta
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Is Unzen gun a poverty CA gun?

sharp socket
whole crypt
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yes

sharp socket
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will anchorage/cheshire have a significant increase in dps with it

sweet delta
whole crypt
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their DPS will increase signficantly but they still won't contribute significantly to DPS

sharp socket
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are there perma CAs that can contribute significant dps that can use drake gun effectively

sweet delta
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Hinden

viscid swift
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does Hindenburg count

whole crypt
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Drake and Hindenburg

sweet delta
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Limited wichitam

whole crypt
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if we count limited there's also Unzen though a large part of hers is torps ShiSleep

sharp socket
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michita good dps CA?

sweet delta
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Top 3

whole crypt
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top 3 if she borderlines dying

sharp socket
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might consider building her then with my stockpile of meta mats

sweet delta
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Assuming the boss does nonzero but not too much damage

sharp socket
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oh so glass cannon

sweet delta
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Top 1 by far if she's borderline

viscid swift
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she's FP tech either way

whole crypt
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if she doesn't just not die then she's like top 10 or 15

sweet delta
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Top 10 CA is very bad

eager mulch
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gn gph smolmagisleep

whole crypt
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as it turns out there's not a lot of competition even if her near death experience doesn't proc

whole crypt
sharp socket
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is hinden squishy

whole crypt
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less squishy than Wichita

stark quiver
hollow gust
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i forgot to gear elridge to she died

whole crypt
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yes Amagi is the meta for this showdown now

whole crypt
hollow gust
whole crypt
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oh, I did harb and it worked too yeh

sharp socket
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vs ply does hinden do more surface damage

viscid swift
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yes

hollow gust
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well yeah, ply has always beem for her buff, damage was always a cherry on top

whole crypt
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more like both

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her buff alone isn't enough if she's dogshit otherwise

hollow gust
stark quiver
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bruh
i can only get 2 shot

hollow gust
whole crypt
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you can probably 2 strike it on a not September month

hollow gust
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yeah stupid shield

polar lion
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Napoli or breast better tanker?

hollow gust
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napoli technically tankier

whole crypt
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HP after second strike and end screen for harb

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I guess since no subs you can probably also 2 strike with subs

hollow gust
whole crypt
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not 200 aff and skills not finished

hollow gust
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10/10/x?

whole crypt
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again, my shitty +12 VIT

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10/9/1

hollow gust
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hmmm sounds righ then

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cause mine was clapping 500k lol

whole crypt
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but yeh amagi stronks

hollow gust
whole crypt
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depends really on the hit times, because this harb will waste damage count on shield

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so going first with the faster launch doesn't guarantee you end screen damage

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probably relevant for other month hermits

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now to see if it works on Temperance next month

stark quiver
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is one shot harby possible with 0 tech or nah

whole crypt
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probably not

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but you won't be completely 0, just a matter what is missing

stark quiver
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say i have a tenth of max

hollow gust
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alsace is doing better then haku ngl

stark quiver
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i have 20 avi and 6 hit 💀

hollow gust
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yeah oneshot aint happening lmao, unless u have some god cats

sweet delta
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Umi no Neko the nonboomer tested Eldridge to be 9/10 without +13 oxytorps

whole crypt
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timing wise having at least 10-20 RLD to play with is probably more important but WarShrug

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well might be the skills and the last affinity but I'm getting consistently 4/5 for 3 days

sweet delta
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I would be 5/5 with a maxed amagi and zero vits

hollow gust
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im a 24/25

whole crypt
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maxing Amagi is probably more important than the VITs, those are more timing than actual damage over the other converging TBs anyway

viscid swift
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3/5 for me the last 2 days

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I'll try Eldridge myself tomorrow

hollow gust
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elridge performs worse

whole crypt
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eldridge is lower ceiling

viscid swift
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I figured as much

opaque gate
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vh armor plating any good?

viscid swift
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not really

opaque gate
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oww ok

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how about swordfish 818 squad?

viscid swift
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no

opaque gate
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dauntless seems good too

viscid swift
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/coredata

sinful escarp
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i would keep it just incase there is a sudden niche where it works

viscid swift
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it's not

stark quiver
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what ship tech does this event give

viscid swift
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Amagi is AVI, Watarase is hit, the 2 elites are torp

stark quiver
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unfortunate

whole crypt
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and Hiei is BC EVA I think?

viscid swift
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yep

opaque gate
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thanks, i thought vr plating is good for azuma

whole crypt
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which is basically the worst of the lot

opaque gate
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ill just maintain beaver and hydraulic steering

whole crypt
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VH is not bad for Azuma but it's not going to do much better than evasion and other HP auxes in most cases WarShrug

opaque gate
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is this a good azuma for now?

eager mulch
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BC Eva for amagi chan smugmagi

slow fox
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Best eHP setup for Azuma spotted

whole crypt
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dafuq mebot

slow fox
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nnktt spotted

gilded shale
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Which gear should I buy in the prototype shop?

eager mulch
viscid swift
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what's not best is her not being dev 30, not 100 affinity and level 115

slow fox
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:mutsukithink:

opaque gate
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"for now," is it on the right track though?

viscid swift
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it is acceptable

opaque gate
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thanks

gilded shale
viscid swift
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/coredata

eager mulch
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/protocore

opaque gate
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ill also change ayanami for ibuki

eager mulch
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since when did prototype shop mean core data

viscid swift
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uhh, I blame WG's spaghetti coding

eager mulch
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got cit by an azuma in my ass in stalin

sharp socket
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whats WG Ehhssex

viscid swift
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Wargaming

stark quiver
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wargambling

slow fox
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Wimprovedhydraulic Grudder

sharp socket
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forget i asked
anyway since its been a while since pr7 dropped, are any of the ships in it outstanding enough to skip pr6

slow fox
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Napoli my beloved

viscid swift
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Nahkimov would be the only one, along with La-9s

eager mulch
rocky fjord
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what was the other dr6 besides hindy

hollow gust
sharp socket
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why is nahkimov very good then

eager mulch
hollow gust
rocky fjord
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cant check game, forgot the season

eager mulch
viscid swift
slow fox
hollow gust
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what brainrot made you forget keary

viscid swift
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Eldridge retro exists though

eager mulch
slow fox
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High enough to require eld kai AND Napoli MutsukiHyperStare

eager mulch
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AND jda?

hollow gust
slow fox
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AND unicorn

viscid swift
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no, just Eldridge, pretty sure she already took care of Repulse META and that's pretty much been the highest-pressure META fight to date

slow fox
hollow gust
slow fox
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She's alright.

whole crypt
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Anchorage is best with infinite eHP, boss just needs to shoot when she's invul

slow fox
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Her eHP gimmick revolves around timed invulnerabilities, which is...fine.

If you subtract that from her, she is relatively unremarkable in terms of simply being tanky.

finite crag
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i thought people were gassing up napoli when pr7 released

slow fox
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188% SWEEP

viscid swift
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well we were

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but then Eldridge retro dropped

sweet delta
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Napoli emits gasses herself

true kraken
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Did they just fix Amagi skill?

eager mulch
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Napoli is a chain smoker 🚬

rocky fjord
viscid swift
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yep

sweet delta
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We knew it since day 0

slow fox
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Eldridge Kai doubles the eHP of the two other vanguard ships in her formation, which is pretty craay cray.

viscid swift
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exactly

slow fox
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Suchidoubt spotted

sweet delta
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I thought I managed to drop it to 150% or something, why is it double again

slow fox
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Wait, we discussed this. I believe you wanted me to use /25 instead of mod 22. If that was the case, she doesn't double the eHP of the other ships, but increases them by like 1.7

sweet delta
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+70% CleveOK

slow fox
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I found it

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Eldridge Kai 166% the eHP of the two other vanguard ships in her formation, which is pretty craay cray.

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For reference, JdA and Anchorage both do about 130%

sharp socket
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so is eld retro can offtank or main tank

sweet delta
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Depends on the enemy

sharp socket
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w13 hard and w15

slow fox
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I would not put her maintank, as like a general uhh rule.

sharp socket
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also maybe 14-4 cause i need 3* still

sweet delta
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She can main tank if you dedicate Aquila or Volga to her

whole crypt
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would probably work for a Musashi/Aquila setup since Aquila is lowest vanguard and main

sweet delta
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Off tank to be safe, operation rainbow just procs 0 or 1 time each battle

slow fox
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lol just say 0.5 instead of "0 or 1"

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delusional

whole crypt
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skills proccing 0.5 times each fight 🧠

sharp socket
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how does skill proc 0.5 time in a battle Ehhssex

whole crypt
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it doesn't that's mebot using averages instead of real values

slow fox
sweet delta
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0.5 is a very real value

slow fox
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SuchiGoodOpinion!@?!?!

whole crypt
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I'll admit it's a real number

sweet delta
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This isn't complex math

sharp socket
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semantics wont help me clear w15 therefore i like 0-1 times proc in a battle more

whole crypt
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well without knowing what your problem is I don't think just slotting eldridge will help

sharp socket
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anyway back to my original question since theres something i forgot to ask, are the prs in pr7 better than pr6

slow fox
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Yeah no

viscid swift
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no

sweet delta
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She survived 5 mobs and first 2 bosses like 10/10 times with budget +10 gear for almost the whole fleet

viscid swift
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Shimanto is most useful one of the Pr6 and 7 PRs

slow fox
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0.5 confirmed

sweet delta
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Maybe 0.87

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Actually over 1, should be

sharp socket
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is felix good outside of pvp for w15 or meta fights

viscid swift
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no

slow fox
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Right, I would assume that 0.87 and her surviving means you can totally slot in 80% eHP ship and be fine.

sweet delta
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Is Felix good inside of pvp?

whole crypt
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supposedly with Seyd

viscid swift
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yes actually

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for now

whole crypt
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the new comp is seyd felix

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and this is literally the first time I saw Felix in any sort of meta

sharp socket
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i heard shes good if you dont have laffey2

whole crypt
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she's not bad but not good for what Laffey II is good for

sweet delta
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What's she good for if you don't have laffii?

viscid swift
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felix is no where close to Laffey 2

whole crypt
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wherever you're hearing these things from you need to stop hearing from them

sweet delta
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85% AA efficiency btw. Or was it 70%

slow fox
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  1. 70 0lb
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"Thank you for letting me know, Mebot."
Yeah of course SuchiPerson, always glad to help.

sweet delta
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Now sprinkle in a bit of Z1 and we effectively get 100%+ z35wow

sharp socket
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my food arrived ill answer in an hour if i dont forget PortDoll

slow fox
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Out of context, of course.

viscid swift
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yes of course

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but I don't ever see a scenario where I would specifically want a DD tank outside of Arizona META

slow fox
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I also don't want DD tanks. 🤝

sweet delta
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I want DD tanks for my IB faction fleets

slow fox
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Bulin Hinden Karl :mutsukinod:

viscid swift
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don't forget Karl

sweet delta
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Don't think you can sneak that edit under the rug

slow fox
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I have no idea what you're talking about

sharp socket
rapid grail
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pvp and pve is different content

rapid grail
zenith heron
sharp socket
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so felix is good inside pvp as laff2 alternative

rapid grail
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downgrade

zenith heron
viscid swift
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The only reason she's meta is to proc Seylitz

rapid grail
zenith heron
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I can't even compare Felix to Mogador sadly

rapid grail
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felix is good but there's other better options there

turbid latch
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replace unretro saratoga with enty?

zenith heron
rapid grail
turbid latch
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still enty?

rapid grail
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you can get sara's augment for 21k coins and its pretty good

turbid latch
rapid grail
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nice, having sara w/ aug helps with clears

still nest
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Is it worth it to build collab for OpSi?

turbid latch
finite crag
#

how many t3 ord report can you get a month

viscid swift
#

Average I'd say 3

#

That's converting all of your T2s

finite crag
#

not counting t2 conversions? nvm

rapid grail
turbid latch
#

alrr thanks

rapid grail
mystic topaz
#

do you guys make attempts to reuse rare equipment by swapping and sharing them around between your strong picks? or do you try to get each ship their own set of gear?

#

I ask that because, given the amount of ships ingame and, that's a lot of swapping and tracking to do

viscid swift
#

I swap gear around

#

It's too expensive and rather pointless to try and give every ship best in slot gear

bright tusk
#

is this gun bad?

hollow gust
#

for 99% of content yes

#

its not even good for the ship it originally was now

bright tusk
blissful hamlet
#

it's only good if you're on w15 and you use shimanto and she's not fs5

rapid grail
# bright tusk is this gun bad?

that was for buffing aa in w15
now that shimanto is fs5, you can just use plygun on her now instead of that and still get good results on w15 clears

opaque gate
#

is ibuki better th an ayanami?

fiery pelican
#

Shinano is better than Hakuryuu?

normal frost
#

Is there anything to increase helena's skill activation? I've done 3 funs in a row where it didn't activate and it's kinda frustrating

fiery pelican
#

I'm trying to give one of them a wyvern

hollow gust
#

oh shinano gets it 100% , nano has the strongest torp slot ingame

opaque gate
#

i rrcently unlocked ibuki, should i swap her for my ayanami?

soft raft
#

I doubt she's gonna do much right now at Dev lvl 0

opaque gate
#

i see, but is she going to be better though?

#

fuz i plan to either have noshiro azuma ayanami or noshiro azuma ibuki

hollow gust
fiery pelican
#

Is this good?

forest palm
#

No, stick to purple Helldiver till Tenrai

opaque gate
#

zamn daisen looks good too should i unlock

hollow gust
finite crag
opaque gate
#

yee, hakuryu is done, just wsiting for 50k coins and blueprints

finite crag
#

focus on one series at a time

#

haku is far from done if you still need prints

#

"done" means dev30 or fs5 if available

opaque gate
#

so while im waiting for blueprints, i plan to just unlock more while waiting

#

but ill still focus on haku

finite crag
#

if so you can literally unlock any ship and theyll all be equally worthless

#

so it doesnt really matter

opaque gate
#

ye lol. but ill build them after one is finished

finite crag
#

knock yourself out, just focus on getting everyone in pr4 dev30 before even thinking about working on other series though

opaque gate
#

okiee, thanks!

prime kraken
#

Should amagi cv replaces avp?

stark quiver
#

sure

plain saffron
#

unless you have eld kai or something, but still not stop like avp

lyric stump
#

i think the wutever buff unlimits her gun

lyric stump
#

its a literally the purp hell diver but looks better

plain saffron
lyric stump
#

if but for me the golden background is worth

plain saffron
#

for you sure, not sure for anyone else

lyric stump
#

ya if u rich

#

its not essential

plain saffron
#

you need 120 gold plates for it to be more than just 🤏 better

#

even as someone rich i would upgrade more tenrai/other plane rether than golddiver

prime kraken
#

I dont know, could eldridge tank instead of guam

plain saffron
#

you need to +13 to make it better than purple, technically +12

lyric stump
#

i think that guy ask whether its gud to make it not to +13 it

#

i mean like dont +13 it

wind hazel
#

just don't craft it, it's that easy

plain saffron
#

at +10/11 the only difference is 20(40?) AVI. so very little
it have exact same bombs and dmg

lyric stump
plain saffron
#

but slightly more AVI and more dmg because can upgrade to +13

lyric stump
#

why only +13 show on equipemnts

plain saffron
lyric stump
#

likje auxility like guns if i +13 i dont get see difference

#

like i only see extra +3% dmg to siren

plain saffron
#

for guns it increase the gun coeff, but it's hidden behind "Damage modifier lvl x" in EN

lyric stump
#

oooo

#

wut gun shall i +13

#

like mnsot worth

plain saffron
#

this is what it should be in CN

lyric stump
#

oooo

plain saffron
#

/plus13

lyric stump
#

i see dmg modifier

plain saffron
lyric stump
#

out of those 3 wut u suggest

#

those 6

finite crag
#

have you done the ones highlighted in red first

lyric stump
#

i have
3 1 2(1+13)
1 2 1

#

4 champy 406

finite crag
#

just do the ones highlighted then save your plates for when you need it

lyric stump
#

i have 400

#

guns

finite crag
#

it costs 360 to +13 a piece of ur gear

#

400 is nothing

#

if youre not sure what to do with those plates just hold on to them

lyric stump
#

okay

#

which of the 3 is most useful(we exclude mog turret cause i only use it for mog

inner delta
#

uh all 3 of those is useful

#

idk if i can give any specific

#

but if i have to choose ig it's 152

lyric stump
#

then i give the+13 to ply right

inner delta
#

yes or just any cl

lyric stump
#

k cool ty

inner delta
#

since every cl will just want that gun other than the one using dd gun

lyric stump
#

ya true

silver vine
#

have people found a comp for admiral nakhimov yet? cause the only decent way to use her skill that I see is to pair her with soyuz and I am unsure if that is a good idea

finite crag
#

dont see anything bad about that

silver vine
#

you would have to mix cv and bb buffs

finite crag
#

what buffs

silver vine
#

ply, sirius, ara and so on

finite crag
#

it doesnt really matter

#

buffs arent what make or break those ships

silver vine
#

also bbs are best against medium and nakhimov has 6 trp bombers so prbly best against heavy

finite crag
#

im guessing this all came to you in a dream

rain bobcat
#

what's the stronghold solo speedrun setup

wind hazel
#

uh, musashi unicorn+strong ships

ripe bluff
#

Whats the z flags bonus for a certain ship

rain bobcat
#

IJN mikasa

ripe bluff
#

Whats the bonus for her tho

wind hazel
#

in other word, it's garbage

strange sphinx
#

hmmmm who should I use CV with Fighter, Tenrai and, And Wyvern? Both MLB and 100 level, shinano or Amagi CV?

rain bobcat
wind hazel
#

NagatoStare probably works

#

(and probably overkill)

coarse heron
#

I bought Z flag for collection AkagiLUL

ripe bluff
#

Scam bruh

coarse heron
#

Still better than buying it because it's UR NepSmug

atomic abyss
#

it's been like that for quite some time already

#

in any case - nakh seems to be best at med

#

as for her best comp? that remains to be seen

fickle parcel
#

What does a Fargo Direct drone do?

vernal edge
#

MurmWat Do i need fatesim on Ancho for her to be ok, or is it just cherry on top?

coarse heron
#

Her fatesim is nice but not mandatory

atomic abyss
fickle parcel
#

tyty

south sequoia
atomic abyss
#

Without an NP slow, I think she might fall behind amagi

#

But with NP slow she completely outstrips her competition on med and heavy

south sequoia
#

oh my

#

so she would really like soyuz

atomic abyss
#

Well there is a train of thought of using amagi nano nakh

#

With voro/Tash on the front

#

And that should get more mileage in theory

#

But again, we are still in early testing so WarShrug

south sequoia
#

What about kear york comps?

#

since kear opens up more breathing room with own ara

atomic abyss
#

The issue there is if it's worth to use so many LA-9s

#

cos they 🐌

urban solar
#

how important is a decent submarine fleet? got my set of gold germans now so should i invest as a mid resorce pool returnee?

atomic abyss
#

tho in theory yes, she can also replace impla for kear yk2

#

sub fleets are important for w14/15 in the sense that they give you more leeway with fleets and gear there

#

they are far from necessary - and if you have yet to invest in a sub fleet, perhaps invest in the US sub comp instead

urban solar
#

only got albacore and cavalla from the us

atomic abyss
#

no flasher?

which german subs do you have?

urban solar
#

37,81,96

versed forum
#

is these 2 good enough?

atomic abyss
#

yeah might as well level them in the dorm then

atomic abyss
versed forum
#

thx i should go for 406 mk6 and helldiver ig

remote yarrow
#

Helldiver isn't a fighter

atomic abyss
#

the only 2 BB guns you should use early on are these purple guns

remote yarrow
#

Use purple F4U Corsair, Seafang or gold hellcat

atomic abyss
clever lance
#

How come when I use auto repeat sometimes it says 1 completed but 3 expected

versed forum
clever lance
#

Does that mean I lost some battles or something?

atomic abyss
#

no, means it stopped cos your dock is full or you ran out of oil

urban solar
remote yarrow
#

Your mob or boss fleet probably died, out of dock or oil

atomic abyss
#

or yeah, fleet ded

clever lance
#

Entire fleet? Or just some ships

remote yarrow
#

Entire vanguard or flag

clever lance
#

But when I do the battles one at a time I always win everything

atomic abyss
#

what fleets are you using, and what map is this?

clever lance
#

Event D3

remote yarrow
#

yeah that mob fleet vanguard doesn't look too great Ehhssex

urban solar
#

that mobbing fleet looks fragile

atomic abyss
#

mob is 100% the issue

remote yarrow
#

And it's probably dying

atomic abyss
#

why are you even low costing - there's oil cap

also, put howe in flag please

urban solar
#

probs leveling [attempting to]

clever lance
#

It wins 🤷🏻‍♂️

atomic abyss
#

it's not if you're not getting your 3 expected clears

clever lance
#

The first fleet is only to meet requirements. The second fleet is doing everything. I’m leveling them and doing iron blood xp 🤷🏻‍♂️

atomic abyss
#

...oh

#

then it's because

#

no healer lol

clever lance
#

Could it be morale?

atomic abyss
#

drop amagi or shinano, move unicorn

clever lance
#

Mood*

atomic abyss
#

morale would have stopped auto entirely and not complete the search at all

crimson glacier
#

morale notification happens instantly

#

you wont even reach the boss so it has no chance to stop

coarse heron
#

full dock will also turn off auto-search

quartz jungle
clever lance
remote yarrow
#

Idk there's a few factors that can stop auto, dying,morale,oil or dock storage, even accidental missclicks lol

vernal edge
#

WarShrug Check your auto thingy settings, it probably uses your first fleet as mob and it dies

clever lance
#

I have second fleet for everything and first fleet is standby only

vernal edge
#

MurmWat Actually i dont think you can force single fleet into doing both things with 2 fleets fielded

clever lance
#

I guess it can be morale… cause one of them I keep getting notifications

atomic abyss
vernal edge
#

Just look at your screen to figure out the issue then

remote yarrow
#

You could've started with that MurmWat

atomic abyss
#

so why isnt your entire fleet in the dorm?

#

and the dream park

#

50-60 morale an hour with them together

remote yarrow
#

Also grinding iron blood CDC (i assume that's what you meant) with only 2 ships it's not the best

late flame
#

would be nice if the dream park/onsen was perma tbh (i park my hard mode fleet there lol)

clever lance
#

If even one ship dies, does the auto repeat automatically end after boss stage?

remote yarrow
#

No, it stops if the flagship dies or the entire vanguard

clever lance
#

Only my koninsberg died. And she had low mood as well

remote yarrow
#

Though they shouldn't be dying to start with, they lose 10 morale each time they die

atomic abyss
#

dats why you're running out of morale

remote yarrow
late flame
clever lance
#

That makes sense

atomic abyss
#

swap konig and karls
put in unicorn and replace amagi or shinano

clever lance
#

Thanks for shedding light on that

atomic abyss
#

that should be enough

queen jackal
atomic abyss
#

if you have the choices or lack of one type, twin for stuff like hood
triple otherwise

south sequoia
#

anyone here who I should mlb

#

and focus for tech

atomic abyss
#

zuihou

south sequoia
#

ssr bulins crowding

finite crag
#

zuihou + 2 hit

south sequoia
#

ah right

#

one more

atomic abyss
#

katsu has +1 hit NagaThonk

#

kii and roma have +2 fp

#

so one of them

sharp socket
#

i only need 2x 457 right

#

so if i already have that, and i dont have any candidates for drake gun which i likely wont need more than one, do i make spearfish next with my t3 ordnance

remote yarrow
#

If you don't need it just don't craft

#

Maybe Tenrai will use Ords 🔮

sharp socket
#

i wont get t3 ordnance to craft anything until jan anyway

#

im just thinking about that convo earlier where cheeky said spearfish is like a better wyvern

#

so i can have 3 wyverns and one spearfish which is likely more than enough in the tb department for w15

atomic abyss
#

spearfish has more DPS

#

but no interception

#

so your AA has to be more shored up

still nest
#

should I focus PR7 even though I don't have the guns/planes of PR5 and PR6?

sharp socket
#

so just more flapjacks?

atomic abyss
#

have you even finished PR4?

#

if no stay there

have you gotten plymouth? if no stay at PR5

still nest
remote yarrow
#

Everyone D30/Fs5

atomic abyss
#

gotten all PR4 ships to dev 30/fs5 (well you can ignore marco i guess)
1 tenrai from research and 1 tenrai from protocore

#

that's "finished" with PR4

sharp socket
#

except haku fs5 cause not really worth staying for fs5, especially now that cvmagi potentially better in haku’s slot in cv setup

remote yarrow
#

Haku's Fs5 is still really good

#

An 18% dmg increase isn't really "not worth"

sharp socket
#

i didnt complete haku fs5 because it was not recommended to me to do so, so id assume that advice is applicable here

still nest
woeful spade
#

is retrofit amount drop fixed on hard?

remote yarrow
#

And Haku still beats Amagi in Light iirc

atomic abyss
remote yarrow
wind hazel
#

it's not fixed drop

remote yarrow
#

You mean as only can get 1 BP max each run? Or the drop chance?

wind hazel
#

neither are the rarity

woeful spade
still nest
# atomic abyss you are, ignore all other PRs - focus on 4

but said here (https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research) that

Why not PR1, PR2, PR3, PR4?
All the PR ships in PR1, PR2, PR3, PR4 can have their ship blueprints bought with coins directly, instead of having to research for them.
All the DR ships in DR2 and DR3 can have their ship blueprints bought with coins directly, instead of having to research for them.
All the gear in PR1, PR2, PR3, PR4 (and most later seasons) are found in the Prototype Shop and/or the Gear Lab.

sharp socket
#

your DRs are not d30 so thats why u stay in pr4

still nest
#

oh

sharp socket
#

and also not having 2nd tenrai

still nest
#

for mobbing and boss right?

wind hazel
#

`Research Focus Optimization:
Select any season PR5 or higher unless you know what you are doing. They have the best ships and gear.

PR6 is slightly worse than the other 2 options (PR5, PR7) due to having similar ships but worse gear. Still fine to set as a focus, however.`

still nest
#

ah

wind hazel
#

MutsukiHyperStare he didn't read it wrong

atomic abyss
#

i already told sam this recommendation was stupid

#

and he didnt listen

still nest
wind hazel
#

i don't agree with this as well

sharp socket
#

i dont like that recommendation that pr5 has best ships and gear

wind hazel
#

even more so that you want to have 2 tenrai

still nest
#

hmm I see, I should probably revert this back to pr4

remote yarrow
#

Maybe the guide is from the future when PR4 is already retired

wind hazel
#

would probably be that way if they have tenrai on gearlab

still nest
#

only 2 tenrai I need?

#

or many more for opsi?

remote yarrow
#

More is better, but 2 is enough without spending too much extra time on PR4

wind hazel
#

most case 2 tenrai is good enough, very very niche case wants 3

still nest
#

if that's the case I can complete that next month

wind hazel
#

NagatoStare like current meta, but there's alternative

still nest
#

should I really focus PR4?

karmic pebble
#

is it too late to get nagato meta

atomic abyss
#

no

finite crag
#

nagato meta only just came out youre good

karmic pebble
#

i can get all the dupes right

boreal wagon
# still nest

just in case and to clarify, UR bps dont refresh in proto store

still nest
#

chat is this real?

atomic abyss
#

yes

finite crag
#

even if it did refresh youd still want to finish developing those ships lmao

#

so yes you should really focus pr4

karmic pebble
#

can someone explain how the meta ships system works. like im so confused how do i get all of the nagato metas

remote yarrow
still nest
wind hazel
#

do meta showdown daily to collect points, max 375+375+75+75+75

finite crag
wind hazel
#

sync it, collect rewards, hit min 25k points to MLB nugget

karmic pebble
#

ohhh

still nest
#

thank you very much, I hope the guide will be updated or something

karmic pebble
#

im just grinding for data sync basically

karmic pebble
#

i can fight her 3 times a day right

remote yarrow
#

5

#

3 from support and 2 from using Meta coords

karmic pebble
#

OHHH

vital phoenix
#

Is it a good idea to buy purple tokens from akashi?

shell willow
#

in opsi? yes

turbid dawn
#

What is the recommended loadout for Amagi with NagatoM?

coarse heron
remote yarrow
#

Also depends on timing

narrow storm
#

Guys should I use prinz eugen?

atomic abyss
#

no, she's quite bad

narrow storm
atomic abyss
#

use portland

tired forum
#

When are devs planning to add the wedding skin to Bismarck?
Or is this exclusive to the Japanese server?

atomic abyss
#

26th Sep patch - according to their anniversary livestream

ashen notch
#

Guys, which planes should I grind for Amagi in the same team with Akagi and Kaga?

atomic abyss
#

putting aside why you're using her with 2 bad ships (no its not worth for proccing the skill)
if you're just grinding levels, the any decent fighter, db and tb combo work

atomic abyss
#

triple then

queen jackal
#

on both?

atomic abyss
#

yep

#

unless you dont have enough

queen jackal
#

i have triple on indiana and double on colo

opaque gate
#

what is the fastest way to dev 30?

queen jackal
#

extra shell>barrage?

atomic abyss
opaque gate
#

i finished azuma's research catch up blueprints. is spending coins my only way rn?

atomic abyss
#

it's the best way thats for sure

tame jungle
#

technically no but realistically yes

opaque gate
#

aww, thanks. looks like it would take months

atomic abyss
#

takes about 50 days if you buy 10 BP at a time

atomic abyss
opaque gate
#

should i farm event or 9-4 for coins?

atomic abyss
#

event, 9-4 is ass for coins

ashen notch
atomic abyss
#

if you're new - you prob shdnt be using amagi to begin with

#

you wont have the UR bulins or duplicates to max limit break her

#

so she'll be beaten by other low rarity options

ashen notch
atomic abyss
#

the same applies to any non max limit broken ship

#

not matter how strong they are at full potential

ashen notch
#

'kay got it, non mlb = bench

coarse heron
#

Some may disagree with me, but Agir at Dev25 is perfectly usable.

echo vector
#

Need info on bunny sirius extra interaction with the skin. I only found remove/add shoes, add or remove carrot.

atomic abyss
#

click on the manjuu sittin on the light pole

#

the manjuu tells/shows you all the possible interactions

hollow gust
#

She has like 30+ interactions

atomic abyss
#

there are some interactions only accessible if you do some other interactions

#

so have fun exploring

echo vector
#

Thanks for the info

tranquil saffron
#

Is amagi CV better than Shinano for opsi CV fleet?

atomic abyss
#

amagi prefers shinano to hakuryuu

coarse heron
#

Who's the best slow debuff for CV fleet? I've been using Ark Royal at the moment

atomic abyss
#

implacable is first, then august (they freeze rather than slow)

tranquil saffron
#

I wonder how all 3 of them together would do against the bosses that don't moveEhhssex

atomic abyss
#

excellent - that's being used for nagato meta lol

coarse heron
atomic abyss
coarse heron
#

So just use Ark Royal until she's FS5 then?

tranquil saffron
#

What's the ideal equipment for amagi for opsi and nagato meta?

atomic abyss
#

tenrai double converging

#

the specific converging tb depends on your syncing

you still need a slower for opsi

torn latch
atomic abyss
#

no, amagi shinano haku

plain saffron
#

and eld prob

atomic abyss
#

mog or eld

tranquil saffron
#

So does amagi replace Haku for opsi fleet?

atomic abyss
#

yes

torn latch
#

Btw do I need two rainbow torps aux for Nagato meta one shot run

tranquil saffron
#

That's depressing EssexWheeze

torn latch
#

I saw most ppl who posted their one shot run using at least double rainbow torps aux +13

atomic abyss
#

if using unzen, yeah assumine you live

coarse heron
#

So what would be the CV vanguard then? I don't have any UR more modern than Shimakaze (besides Amagi) Eldridge and who else?

atomic abyss
#

the standard kazagumo sirius + tank

coarse heron
#

oh right Kazagumo PortDoll

torn latch
#

Or sometimes Helena

coarse heron
#

I always forget about her

cobalt rapids
gusty arrow
#

Best mob clearing fleet for opsi?

coarse heron
#

something with lots of preloads

torn latch
coarse heron
#

I use Percy + Aquila for my preload spam

gusty arrow
#

How about the vanguard

torn latch
#

Unicorn would help for afk stronghold one fleet clear

#

Or Percy/aquila work too

cobalt rapids
#

unzen shima ibuki

torn latch
coarse heron
#

for vanguard I just put Anchovy for mob tank, then Shimakaze and a random 3rd ship

gusty arrow
#

Thanks

torn latch
#

I don't use Ibuki because I'm too lazy to switch for abyssal and arbiter fight

coarse heron
#

mob fleet you want explosive damage

#

the more preloads the better

hollow gust
#

All it's doing is making things more overkill EssexWheeze

coarse heron
#

Anchorage

gusty arrow
#

Ah

#

Isn't Napoli better?

torn latch
hollow gust
#

Like EssexWheeze ,

atomic abyss
#

dat assumes you even have a napoli sitting around

cobalt rapids
#

lol alsace

hollow gust
coarse heron
#

more likely to have a Dev30 Anchorage than a Napoli

cobalt rapids
#

best comp according to ?

hollow gust
#

Me and riciest did dozens of battles of testing

cobalt rapids
#

what else did u test

hollow gust
#

Only those three , rest aren't worth it

gusty arrow
hollow gust
#

Could run taihou for shits and giggles but Ehhssex

atomic abyss
#

457

torn latch
cobalt rapids
#

im gonna assume u didnt test eldridge and haku comp was with mog aswell

torn latch
#

With HCFR aux

hollow gust
cobalt rapids
#

is she

hollow gust
cobalt rapids
#

i had screens with 1.3k with mog
eldr comp was at least ~1,4 even on fails

hollow gust
#

Less damage then mog , less damage on unzen cause of no latching , less damage on Kazegumo cause of latching

torn latch
#

Since my mog isn't even lv125 yet, I will try Eldridge

hollow gust
#

Well sure feel free to use her , but all I'm saying is shes worse

cobalt rapids
#

more consistent coz her slow is consistent and shes not randomly dying or missing stabs

hollow gust
#

I have yet to see a Eldridge comp bring nagato to 16 bars before last strike

cobalt rapids
#

and 3ijn have alot of dmg so at this point im looking for consistency

hollow gust
cobalt rapids
#

her slow cant miss unlike mog

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mog will miss 1/10 stabs

hollow gust
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Her slow doesn't stop qe unlike mog

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I have a 34/35 oneshot rate right now YorkBruh

dusk maple
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i'm at 0

hollow gust
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That one loss was cause haku screwed up

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Alsace hasn't lost a oneshot yet WarShrug

cobalt rapids
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ill try alsace

hollow gust
cobalt rapids
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good enough

hollow gust
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17 CV rld with everything oathed

cobalt rapids
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im not +13ing those auxes tho

gusty arrow
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So like this?

hollow gust
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Don't need them , it's pure overkill

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Well unless your ships aren't oathed

cobalt rapids
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i got, everything oathed

hollow gust
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You will have to fuck with the timings

hollow gust
torn latch
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I wish I can transfer my oath ring on Amagi to Amagi CV

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Or if only they can shared the oath lmao

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I mean they are technically still the same person

cobalt rapids
night crow
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In OpSi, do submarines also suffer the low resolve debuff after not winning a battle ?

cobalt rapids
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should be just tolls of war but idr tbh

coarse heron
atomic abyss
night crow
coarse heron
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I just call them right away on boss fights WarShrug

night crow
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Yeah but for the arbiter fight on hard I need them to always do max damage for 4 consecutive fights so to not die before the end of the timer I'll try calling them later

late flame
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imo the only harbiter fight where submarine call timing is important would be Strength

coarse heron
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when I did Harbiter earlier today (only managed to get HP to 10% and fuck doing it all over again) my subs health never even got low during each fleet fight

night crow
coarse heron
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like worst they got to was 70%

late flame
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Strength is the only harbiter which could kill all my oathed lv125 subs without sneezing

hollow gust
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Harby PortDoll

coarse heron
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yeah this month's didn't feel particularly threatening to my subs

night crow
cobalt rapids
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just call em 25-30s before ure expecting fight to end

coarse heron
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like I just said, Hard.

hollow gust
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More like easy and medium

cobalt rapids
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calling em right before helena scans is also fine as long as they dont die

stoic badger
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Can we get Musashi or Sirius in special banner?

cobalt rapids
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no

silent fiber
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whats the only stuff worth using gems for?

cobalt rapids
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musashi is lmited and sirius is only in medal

cobalt rapids
torn latch
atomic abyss
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sirius has been out of light pool for a while

torn latch
stoic badger
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what does 2nd floor do

torn latch
atomic abyss
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restore morale faster

morale regen is the main purpose of the dorm

cobalt rapids
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more morale regen than 1st floor but no passive xp
mirrors number of slots on 1st floor

stoic badger
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Is there any guide for every weapon in the game, im a little confuse about the weapon stuff

cobalt rapids
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/equip sams guide

odd rootBOT
coarse heron
wet badge
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is daisen good

atomic abyss
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Esp considering the other top gold BBs are almost all Sakura like her

wet badge
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o ok

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btw should i use haku + amagi cv

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or shinano + amagi

atomic abyss
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nano is better with amagi

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6 TBs to get buffed by amagi compared to 5

wet badge
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should i use all 3

hollow gust
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Only for heavyShiSleep

atomic abyss
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use all 3 if the boss isnt moving, sure but that's quite rare

atomic abyss
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the TB buff is ridiculous enough to push saiuns ahead of bf109gs on med

hollow gust
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Precalc is bullshit as always

silent fiber
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is this even worth 100%-ing

cobalt rapids
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u cannot progress if u dont 100% it

hollow gust
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Precalc from CN originally showed Amagi between shinano and hakuJavSigh

silent fiber
analog swallow
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does alsace replace anyone in this opsi bb fleet

atomic abyss
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musashi

cobalt rapids
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nj

atomic abyss
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sorry, nj first, then musashi
didnt see nj

turbid dawn
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Is it possible to use 3cv fleet against NagatoM then with Amagi, Nano and Hark or would I need Implac in there still because I sadly still don’t have her and I can’t 1 shot with BBs

atomic abyss
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you can use the 3 sakura CV if you have mogador or eld retro in the front

finite crag
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is eld or moga more consistent

hollow gust
atomic abyss
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if you have neither mog or eld retro raised, forget it

hollow gust
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Way higher damage cap then Eldridge