gameplay-help

[coarse heron]

Milestone Rewards are total collected, not how many you currently have on you.

[muted ember]

also,how does the EVA stat work

[coarse heron]

We'll have to consult the algebra

[atomic abyss]

more eva -> less likely for any one shell/bomb/torp to hit

[silent relic]

Hiei meta better than Nelson?

[runic bluff]

is there a list of WHAT to buy in opsi shop?

[atomic abyss]

no, nelson retro is better

[coarse heron]

btw hit chance has a floor of 0.1, meaning all ships (enemy and your own) always have a 10% chance to hit, barring skill activations that say "Evade all attacks"

[atomic abyss]

ideally, everything

priority goes to loggers, so you can clear them, and then really, anything rainbow/gold

[silent relic]

well idk what better fleet formation i can build

just need two more for Shinano tho

[atomic abyss]

where are you in the game currently campaign wise

[silent relic]

and now i had Amagi CV

[silent relic]

grinding on event

havent really getting focused on campaign

[atomic abyss]

well if that's the case, you should be focusing on your first fleet

[muted ember]

so is this a good EVA stat?(running Beaver and blue steering gear)

[atomic abyss]

that's not how you should judge it

all cruisers want more evasion

ideally, a gold rudder and a toolbox (for heals)

tho beaver is a fine early game substitute

[muted ember]

working on getting washing machine

would probably replace blue wheel with that when I get it

[atomic abyss]

the only frontliners that dont want evasion are destroyers

prioritise your gold evasion gear on your CAs (so you're on the right track)

[muted ember]

I mean I got double tool box on Javelin

actually is damage Aux better than survivability aux for Destroyers?

[coarse heron]

No

[inland shoal]

Damage aux is always better than survival aux IF you can guarantee the survival anyway

[atomic abyss]

for a new player, there should not be a case where you're using offensive auxiliary for any frontline ship

[inland shoal]

Which isn't the case that often, so you usually just slap on survival

[coarse heron]

also this just reminded me there's actually something worth farming in War Archives for me: Washing machines

[muted ember]

wha?

you can get golden washing machines in War Archives?

I thought you could only get those from research

[coarse heron]

I haven't actually done the Mirror Involution War Archive yet, but it dropped during the original event in D3

absolutely cursed drop rate, fwiw

[late flame]

it really isnt worth the while

[atomic abyss]

drop rate is abysmal

[coarse heron]

I think I farmed like 3 of them during the entire original run, grinding D3 basically non-stop

[late flame]

you'll also get the prints naturally as long as you do researches

[coarse heron]

just something to keep in mind if you decide you want to get Ticonderoga by farming WA

[muted ember]

also,what's the name the Musashi event?

[coarse heron]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Violet_Tempest,_Blooming_Lycoris

[muted ember]

thanks

wait is the event shop always the same for the reruns

[coarse heron]

Yesn't

[atomic abyss]

sometimes

[coarse heron]

the PR/DR blueprints will be updated if they're really old, and if it's a lite rerun there'll be different stuff in the shop

[light trail]

is there an opsi shop priority

[coarse heron]

Coordinate Loggers

[atomic abyss]

ideally, everything

priority goes to loggers, so you can clear them, and then really, anything rainbow/gold

[light trail]

sorry i meant port supply

[coarse heron]

answer is the same

[light trail]

oh wait i was confused. sorry it's like 3:30am for me brain is not working. thanks

[late flame]

then you should sleep

[light trail]

no

[muted ember]

how good is this?

[boreal wagon]

it has its very very niche usecases but most of the time you wont use it

[coarse heron]

NJ's UR gun feels a lot better, even accounting for HE vs AP, without even doing the math

[elfin hollow]

It's nice on musashi if you also add in admiralty table

[boreal wagon]

chances are, unless you are using it for one of the very niche cases i mentioned, you don't want it on sashi either

[frank pulsar]

for most players its a 🧱
youll never use it unless you're into META fight one shots, and even then it has low usage

[cobalt rapids]

im into META

[frank pulsar]

me too im lying

[grizzled sundial]

Agir you give her CB gun that fire HE or AP ?

[frank pulsar]

always ap

[cobalt rapids]

usually ap

[frank pulsar]

preferably either pr4 cb gun (triple 305), kronk gun (b-50) or guam gun (rainbow)

[grizzled sundial]

hmm that unfortunate , i just unlock Azuma gun and it is HE :/

[atomic abyss]

agir's own gun is AP...

[grizzled sundial]

If i accumulate enough BP for it

[inland shoal]

What dev is your Ägir?

[grizzled sundial]

Yes yes , she is not lv 30 not worth to use yada yada ...

[frank pulsar]

unusable, probably

[inland shoal]

Well better to use Azuma gun than no CB gun at all

[coarse heron]

frankly Agir is usable at Dev25 as a tank, as Dev30 just increases her DPS

[grizzled sundial]

Kron gun is the dual long barrel gun no ?

[frank pulsar]

its triple 305 b-50

[exotic wren]

I don't think there's a dual barrel CB gun tho

[half plover]

for vanguard, what is tech prio after CA Eva again?

[cobalt rapids]

FP

[half plover]

CL/CA/DD FP?

[atomic abyss]

yep

[cobalt rapids]

yup

[half plover]

ty

[atomic abyss]

as for which to do first - depends on what you use most

Gun DDs benefit the most from FP tech, but most people use more CA/CLs than DDs so

[half plover]

yeah I feel like I use cls the most

[forest palm]

as long as it isn't DD EVA, ASW, HP, and AA

then CA + CL EVA → FP → Hit → RLD → TRP

when Ibuki, and Unzen are good enough to demand CA TRP Farming

[vital phoenix]

Just to be extra clear and since I don't know where to look this up; is wyvern's intercept better than breguet's?

[forest palm]

Wyvern's guns should be stronger than Breguet

[half plover]

did u guys test ibukis new aug btw

did she become good?

[forest palm]

about as good as Shimakaze

[half plover]

oh what

good enough to build for me

so ibukis power increase was the strongest? or did tashkent or any other also become really good

[forest palm]

Tash's was good, substantial enough improvement, the rest could be ignored

[half plover]

nicee

[atomic abyss]

nah

not about as good

shimakaze still has way higher potential

ibuki is now actually unzen lite

[primal silo]

Is stats from tech so important that I have to go out of my way to do it?

[atomic abyss]

tash's was the most substantial

[atomic abyss]

for the average player? no

but if you want to do things like 1 shot meta bosses or arbiters - yes

[shell willow]

also later in the game theres not much else to do than level ships for tech

[primal silo]

Thanks.
I'm just a casul player, and I still have a lot of SSRs to LB

[half plover]

it's more about if you got your important ships to 125 already and need to replace ships, that you might want to level important tech ships first

and because gold bulin shortage is a thing it is nice that a lot of tech ships are common-elite rarity which makes it easier

some hard challenge modes or funny number comps require RLD stats for example

[primal silo]

Thanks for the detailed answer.

Can I start a thread for ship leveling advice?
It's been a while since my dock was looked over.

[shell willow]

of course

[lyric flume]

are these teams fine for mob/boss fleets?

[kind mason]

guys how do i know what gear is best for a ship

[primal silo]

Ship Leveling and LB

[oak cipher]

Any tips for roon build ? (Here what I have atm)

Especially to replace the autoloader

[rain bobcat]

use toolkit+gold rudder or blue for poverty

[oak cipher]

ok I'll try thx

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

you can read this

[shell willow]

what world are you? you might not even need a boss fleet, also in general you shouldnt use SRs so early because you cant limit break them fast enough and its a lot of power lost

[lyric flume]

6, i'm just using mob fleet but was thinking about making a boss one so i know who to level when one of my units is maxed in xp

my watarase is max limit breaked

she's been carrying me hard

[plain saffron]

if already mlb just keep using her

but keep 1 fleet

[shell willow]

by the time you need the boss fleet you might get other ships, so i wouldnt bother it for now, also swap helena with portland in your fleet, and put watarase on left side because shes highest level (that position takes most damage in vanguard usually)

[lyric flume]

thank you

what chapter do I start boss fleets?

[shell willow]

it was either 9 or 10, i dont remember 100%

[atomic abyss]

that area

[shell willow]

should be w9 because you run out of ammo for boss wiht 1 fleet

[tropic tusk]

say i got vanguard who should i sawp them for?

[wind hazel]

fdg

[tropic tusk]

how about their pos who stand where

[wind hazel]

as they are

[plain saffron]

fdg fs5?

[atomic abyss]

it doesnt really matter unless you're using plymouth

nagami, we are replacing fdg

[plain saffron]

my brain fried

[tropic tusk]

yes fdg is fs5

[kind mason]

yeah i dont understand this atall but thanks

[tropic tusk]

why is it fdg and not uvh? is it cause they UR?

[atomic abyss]

well - uvh always wants to be off flag

so while she does perform best in mob (as with fdg) - that usually means your mob fleet has 2 BBs - which isnt ideal

so better to keep her here where she can be used in her correct position

[tropic tusk]

why is it that u need to ahve 2 bb inorder for uvh to work?

[atomic abyss]

because CV in flag is ass outside w12/13

[tropic tusk]

ok then y 2 bb isnt working then? not optimal enough?

[atomic abyss]

because 2 CV is better

1 is a healer, and while the other doesnt need a particular role, you need to stack acv for later maps

[tropic tusk]

so i assum this one for opsi is the same? replace fdg with vanguard?

[atomic abyss]

and i believe uvh does more than fdg anyways

yes

[tropic tusk]

how about laffey2 where can she go or this is fine?

[atomic abyss]

replace guam

[tropic tusk]

then do guam go anywhere? or this is good

[atomic abyss]

guam can be kept in a spare fleet for her cross

[tropic tusk]

i have these as well do i need any replacements?

[primal silo]

600 dockspace
whel

[tropic tusk]

i cant delete ships

[atomic abyss]

what dev is hinden

[tropic tusk]

30

[atomic abyss]

ply replaces hinden when ply is dev 30

[tropic tusk]

oh ok

anything else?

[atomic abyss]

125 your backline
das about it really

[tropic tusk]

ok thx

[primal silo]

Ender
do you have time to look at my dock and see which ships I should level?

[rain bobcat]

uvh is about NJ level yea

[jaunty glade]

scepter on amagi cv right? not hunting bow

[atomic abyss]

scepter is better in general yes

[raven marsh]

is stephen potter or hamann 2 better for light cv fleet? i dont have laffey2

[atomic abyss]

kazagumo

[raven marsh]

she's on my heavy cv fleet tho

[atomic abyss]

sirius and aurora then

[raven marsh]

oo ok

[atomic abyss]

kears already has the same ARA

[raven marsh]

ah i dont have kears maxed yet, my backline is yorktown 2 enty and avp

[atomic abyss]

hamm2 then

[sharp socket]

are CVs and BBs equally hard to use against light enemies

[atomic abyss]

BBs are much easier to build for light

you dont need research, gearlab or event gear after all

CVs have higher dmg potential tho

[sharp socket]

yeah but the output is capped out early with bb fleet on light cause you just get mk6 as normal option and mk7 as premium option

the room for upgrades is a solid one for mk6 to mk7

[atomic abyss]

it caps early - but how many bf109gs can you afford early?

not to mention - the best CVs for anti light are limited

sure you have haku and nano - but how many rockets are you getting out of them?

[sharp socket]

dont BBs have the same deal where almost all the good ones are limited

[atomic abyss]

true - but gearing is the bigger issue imo

remember carriers are useless against light without their rockets

[spring topaz]

which guild daily contribution turn ins are considered the most efficient? Gold feels bad for sure

[inner delta]

gold is easy

only like 600

[spring topaz]

yeah but x3

[sharp socket]

about the bf109s, im sure any player that did research focus correctly can get out 5-6 by the time they build a cv fleet with haku nano avp/implac

[atomic abyss]

i mean at the end of the day

[inner delta]

yeah it's much easier and better than slowly eating your plates

[atomic abyss]

it depends on how you measure "hard to use"

[inner delta]

or food ig you can use it

[spring topaz]

I'm having a really hard time keeping up with the gold cost, trying to prioritize good research recommended here https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[inner delta]

oh are you not in world 12?

[spring topaz]

I'm in w9 but I've been playing for about 3 weeks I guess? and I am still farming the event

[forest palm]

time to audit your expenses

[inner delta]

like there's not really any more efficient way for guild donation since eating your plate slowly is bad too and giving oil to it is also bad

[atomic abyss]

at that point in the game - research is worth doing - just not prioritising massive resources towards

[inner delta]

your option is donating gold or food

[atomic abyss]

you may want to stick to the "free/cheap" researches for the time being

till you can farm coin consistently

otherwise you may (as you have already), have coin shortages

[undone plover]

gold is fine, ultimately it is 1800 per day which is nothing
u just need to get to ch12
maximum efficiency research at ch9 is hard

[spring topaz]

where does D3 rank

[undone plover]

ch9-10

[forest palm]

D-3 is 10-3 rewards w/ 11-1 oil cap

[spring topaz]

I feel like this oil cap mechanic is new but I've been ignoring it for now

[atomic abyss]

is a very impt mechanic

[forest palm]

oil cap is like...3 y/o at this point I feel

[spring topaz]

how old is season 2/season 3?

[atomic abyss]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[atomic abyss]

season 2 is 2019, season 3 is 2020

[spring topaz]

that's the last time I played, with perhaps one week in 2022 where I redownlaoded the game and tried to play but must hav enot made a lot of progress

[forest palm]

[primal silo]

welcome back

[rose whale]

out of 3 pr7 ships, which one is best? think I got enough print for one of them to hit dev 30

[atomic abyss]

Bayard probably

[rose whale]

thanks

[fresh gale]

does eldridge retro have any role in the meta game?

[whole crypt]

depends what you mean by meta game

she was the last piece to stabilizing Wichita META comps for like a week before the 70k pointers were done

[spring topaz]

does anyone have a rough estimate on how long it takes for a unit to go from 1 to 70 in the dorm?

[whole crypt]

depends on comfort and your commander level and food

and how many slots you're using

[spring topaz]

food?

they don't just all provide varying amounts of duration?

[spring topaz]

holy ... ok then, thanks for sharing

[open harbor]

Why does it keep crashing when I try to update it? I even updated it on Google Play again.

I don't want to have to uninstall and reinstall then redo all my settings. That and also have to download like 16GB again.

[spring topaz]

is your storage full

[lyric flume]

when is it a good time to start going into hard mode and retrofiting units?

[wind hazel]

everyday

[eager mulch]

as soon as possible :amaginom:

[lyric flume]

thank you ive just been clearing story and didn't know if i should stop and go do them

[eager mulch]

[wind hazel]

do your hard mode daily, it's only 3 attempts a day

[lyric flume]

ohhh i see

[wind hazel]

it's your main source of core data

[left cedar]

its pretty much the only one ... iirc only thing that give Core aside HM its a dailly that u need do HM

nope, have a weekly with 15

[half plover]

also higher hard mode stages give better rewards so it is best to push it before getting lazy and just auto it 3times per day

[lyric flume]

does trying to 3 star take morea ttempts?

[half plover]

no, the only concern is oil and time.

[lyric flume]

ty

[half plover]

so if you want to cheese you can just clear all escorts and retreat

if you dont fight the boss you wont use an attempt

[left cedar]

u can 3 Star with only 1 run every HM ...
basically u dosnt wanna do 3 star HM till the very late game, cuz u wanna do the highest possible every day

also even if u are in lategame 3 star HM isnt needed, if u wanna do them u do but up to u

[lyric flume]

ohh okay thank you

[left cedar]

PS: u can just go straitgh foward to highest HM without do the early stages, cuz HM in campaign its unlocked by normal maps

EX: if u already clear W13 but never did HM 1-1 them u can go straight to HM 13-4

[lyric flume]

OH

Thank youuu 😭

[thick venture]

what do i spend my pr prints on lmao

[half plover]

which season?

[left cedar]

depends ...
the Season, how much u already did ...

[keen sable]

Even earlier

[thick venture]

uhhh

[half plover]

the only pr prints I would use is pr4-7 and save selectives for protocome income later

[left cedar]

PR4 its debatable, cuz they are coinable

[thick venture]

how about the rainbow ones

[half plover]

yeah anchorage is too good to be ignored so that is kinda an exception

[left cedar]

DR4 its ok, cuz they arent coinable

[keen sable]

I think you should rush anchorage

[thick venture]

i already have her at dev 30, do i rush fs5?

[half plover]

Personally I use pr7 prints on shimanto (pr 6)

[keen sable]

But if eu tech is hard maybe rush avp

[left cedar]

for a begginer that need 3 champy guns and one tenrai every proto is alot

[spring topaz]

It looks like U-37 is available in the merrit shop, but isn't mentioned in the Shop Priority guide ... is it ok to pick this one up to complete a wolfpack?

[half plover]

I think that won't be a concern since it will take a bit for them to even get to dev30 and convert extra prints

I only got protocore shortage after my first tenrai

[left cedar]

U-37 its gud, but she is worse than U-47, but in lack of 47, 81 or 96 then its ok use 47, but difference between 47 and 37 its quite small

[frank pulsar]

combat exp pack is main source of protocore for new player not converting bp

[half plover]

yeah true

[eager badge]

Can someone help me with the formation for 14-3, Im stuck

[frank pulsar]

make thread and post dock, sorted by vanguard and main fleet
post your current fleet as well

[thick venture]

anchorage^

[frank pulsar]

nah, move on to other stuff first

[half plover]

leveling amagi cv shinano and haku at the same time wouldn't be smart right? even tho all are really good and important it would make leveling 3 bb's painful later on?

[frank pulsar]

anchorage fs5 doesnt do much

[left cedar]

combat XP is indeed the main source, but BPs is also a helper, cuz make it faster, and rushing Ancho with small amount of BPs that u would get as begginer isnt much time ...
it will be wut, 1~7 days ?

[frank pulsar]

it would be a really long time before youre forced to level triple bb tbh

[half plover]

but if I level 3 cvs that would speed it up by a lot maybe

or I just go for it and level 3 bbs later on lmao

[frank pulsar]

eh uty i guess
i just level whatever i have that has useful tech

[thick venture]

do i spend my rainbow pr 2 prints on my dev 26 azuma or upg fs on fdg

[frank pulsar]

prob save to convert to protocore later

[ashen ravine]

how do I download azur lane onto my laptop

[half plover]

spend the rainbow pr2 on FdG and convert into protocore

if your FdG is already dev30 you can convert them already

[plain saffron]

hi

[thick venture]

oh its those special rainbow ones

wait nvm i see

[half plover]

the blue prints for the UR gear and champy

[frank pulsar]

download an emulator and then download azur lane through those
some common emulators are bluestacks 5, nemu and ldplayer9

[ashen ravine]

I tried blue stacks but I keep getting something saying "this app isnt a Microsoft verfied thing"

[half plover]

do PR ships have a level cap or can I have a dev10 ship at lvl 120?

[frank pulsar]

just click install anyway wdym

[left cedar]

yes, u can have a D1 PR/DR at lvl 125

[thick venture]

so i dont need to rush fdg fs5?

[frank pulsar]

dev lv is capped by lv, but not the other way round

[half plover]

nice

[frank pulsar]

just coin

[ashen ravine]

like it say download bluestacks and I do but when I go to open the file it literally wont let me

[thick venture]

right

[frank pulsar]

send screenshot
iirc sometimes windows shows a popup where you have to click find out more before you can click install anyway

[spring topaz]

Yeah I already have 47 and 96 but no 81 ... my next best is U-73

[thick venture]

how bout drake bps? she still isnt dev30? coin?

[ashen ravine]

ok one sec

[frank pulsar]

drake can be ignored
but if you got the coin then go ahead

[finite crag]

PRake

[frank pulsar]

mine is eternally dev23

[finite crag]

keep it that way

[frank pulsar]

youre installing from the store? not the website?

[left cedar]

well, first SSs are a late game thing rushing then into early/mid game its quite expenssive and not worth it
if u are in W12 or W13 its ok start t invest into SSs, them it will be okaish invest on 73, but she will be a short and not that much worth it if ur resourcers are low

[frank pulsar]

also that can be changed in windows security i think? im not too sure

[ashen ravine]

I looked up how to and I clicked on the link to blue stacks then it says either "play azur lane on pc" or "download bluestacks"i press either one and ot downloads then I click the file once it downloads and then that pops up

[half plover]

how many helldivers are good to build lmao? or do I also want to level other dive bombers?

[frank pulsar]

just swap it arnd why would you need 8 for

[left cedar]

basically only Helldivers and Tenrais
AD-1 can be a thing as well, but that is it

[frank pulsar]

yea need to adjust the setting for it to allow download from websites
idr/idk how, try googling it

[plain saffron]

change my app recommendation setting and find a toggle to allow

[half plover]

idk I got so many and was too lazy to always swap them

[torn latch]

If you are too lazy to swap, build as many as possible

I have like 15 helldiver built

[frank pulsar]

i have 5 and pretty much only use 2

[torn latch]

Or maybe even more, too lazy to count

[left cedar]

but as far as i know, rare times u gona use DBs into Bosses, so should be something around 3-5 Helldivers/Tenrais

[ashen ravine]

problem is I pressed that and it dose come up showing a bunch of apps but idk witch one to do because it either says "modify or uninstall"

[plain saffron]

the bottom one?

[ashen ravine]

wdym

[left cedar]

but if u wanna keep all Ships geared, them for sure u gona need more than 20 Helldivers/Tenrais

[thick venture]

i have enough protocores to buy a tenrai but i only have 2 champy guns what do i buy

[half plover]

yeah I just got some spread on opsi cvs, 13h cvs and the ones I level, second tenrai would probably solve that issue haha

[frank pulsar]

prob third champy first if you dont have soyuz gun

[plain saffron]

While in the Settings App, go to Home - Apps, at the top of that page, is there a 'Choose Where to get Apps' drop-down, and if so, is that set to 'Everywhere'

[thick venture]

which one is the soyuz gun

[frank pulsar]

triple 406 mk1 i think

[half plover]

you got soyuz gun in march-april 24 ig

right before I started playing

[thick venture]

i dont got it

[frank pulsar]

yea its mk1
if you have it its fine to go straight for tenrai instead

[north topaz]

Which dive bomber is the best to put on Amagi CV?

[whole crypt]

depends

[frank pulsar]

skyraider for single target light/med
tenrai elsewhere

[opaque gate]

does max lvl ship exp count in combat collection?

[finite crag]

yes

[frank pulsar]

/prgrind yes

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[thick venture]

champy gun 3rd series right

[half plover]

yes

[finite crag]

yes

[woeful spade]

who is worth it to buy here ? (my only bb is penny and hieiMETA)

[half plover]

I would get Bismarck for FdG tech and main fleet exp grind later on

[thick venture]

oh i had enough for both a 3rd champy and a tenrai nice

[half plover]

otherwise is there Hood in it for Mob Fleet BB?

[finite crag]

hood

[half plover]

if u take hood you can get enterprise from the beginner missions so that would be good too

[woeful spade]

yes

[thick venture]

i have spare pr 2 weapon prints what do i use it on

[woeful spade]

so i should get hood and bismarck? since i can buy 2

[half plover]

is it 2x BB?

check first if the other isn't anything else

[woeful spade]

yes 2 same BB

[half plover]

then yeah I would say hood and bismarck are best early game

[open harbor]

Nope, it's not full

[primal silo]

remember to limit break one till full before limit breaking the other one
(hood first probs?)
cause halfway limit break is quite bad

[spring topaz]

Ugh, I just ran out of oil for the first time and accidently gemmed more trying to cancel out of the box

[plain saffron]

always use the X

[spring topaz]

the disgusting part is I have 47k oil in my mail storage, why couldn't it offer to use that

[finite crag]

why couldnt you have taken it out beforehand

[wind hazel]

well why didn;t you withdraw it before you run out of oil?

[finite crag]

word

[primal silo]

I ran out of oil several times, but thankfully never gemmed

[wind hazel]

keep your oil between 5k to 10k

and never run into issues

[primal silo]

Thanks for the suggestion
I will do that from now on.

[torn latch]

why mod accepted this cursed emote

[wind hazel]

specifically made for me

[fervent hearth]

🤏

[glass quest]

What‘s the best use for Amagi (CV)? Is she rather boss- or mob-oriented?

[rain bobcat]

boss but she's fine as a typical cv

[atomic abyss]

bosser - but as with any UR CV - she works well for either
she's definitely better at mobbing than most UR CVs tho

[heavy shale]

how is she compared to current UR cvs just in general

[eager mulch]

higher end

she is a ur cv of all time

[atomic abyss]

first choice for heavy armour now

das about the most notable thing

[thick venture]

rainbow bb (twin 457) or rainbow cl gun from the protocore shop

[eager mulch]

do you have either

[thick venture]

i have neither

[atomic abyss]

tenrai > 457 > quad 152 usually

[thick venture]

457 it is

now who do i put this on

[atomic abyss]

your mobbing battleship

[thick venture]

aye aye

[jaunty pecan]

how's chen hai retro?

[atomic abyss]

🚮

[jaunty pecan]

even retrofit doesnt rescue her?

[atomic abyss]

you could use her for w15 support fleet ig
but there's better cheaper alternatives

[spring topaz]

if I'm trying to do some war archive stuff ... should I maybe not be using a full fleet?

[wind hazel]

if you're capable of doing that before oil cap, sure

[urban grail]

whats the best ss team atm

[eager mulch]

Flasher, albacore, archerfish

[urban grail]

what makes them outshine the wolfpack

[atomic abyss]

more damage really - they have more oxygen

[urban grail]

significant difference?

[atomic abyss]

if you already have a maxed out (actually good) wolfpack, there's not much to gain

it isnt that big an increase

otherwise

[urban grail]

yeah i just found out u96 got her unique module but wonder if i should build it

[atomic abyss]

if you already have a maxed out wolf
just stick with it

[urban grail]

also is there a guide for which module would be worth to build

[atomic abyss]

not here at least

[urban grail]

ok ty

[sweet delta]

there are guides in some peoples 🧠

[eager mulch]

i know of an augment guide

[atomic abyss]

the really good ones are hood, saratoga, san diego, izumo, taihou, kawakaze, tashkent, ibuki

did i miss anyone

[stoic flicker]

should I save these bullets for the boss?

[thin haven]

Is this good for New Jersey?

[cobalt rapids]

ignore those

[cobalt rapids]

its a good 20s ap gun, sidegrade to champy

[thick venture]

any way to replay the recieve popup bit when i just unlocked a ship

[wind hazel]

under their archive

it's not full screen like when you first receive them tho

[normal frost]

Is op siren the only way to farm materials for gear without spending money? Is there another way to get gear lab things? Or gear upgrade material?

[sweet delta]

Good doesn't equal worth though, if just good then there are plenty more good augments

[sweet delta]

Gear lab is basically opsi only and you can't spend money to avoid opsi anyways

[normal frost]

Makes sense. Ty

[sweet delta]

+13 is also basically opsi only, you could +12 without opsi but it's slow

[jaunty glade]

do we have any super rough idea of what the next UR rerun banner will be?

[atomic abyss]

musashi, tho we dont know when

[soft raft]

next UR in line to rerun is Musashi
As for when? We have no real clue yet (Esp when we have 2 SR events to rerun first before her)

[jaunty glade]

just debating which skins to buy, thanks

[zenith peak]

Try using memu, it works for me, it also doesn't chew through ram like BlueStacks does

[spring topaz]

asethics aside, I have a bunch of furniture I'm not using but I don't see where it says if it gives points or how many points each that I am using is giving

also I have 8,000 coins so is there some kind of premade theme I should just buy that would be better than whatever mess I have going on

[stark quiver]

Go to the store, then sort buy highest comfort point, and then see what gives +x point when purchased

[stone sluice]

How many Twin 100mm kai should I craft?

[spring topaz]

is the +x number compared to what I'm using or just it's base value?

can I have an unlimited number of decorations/furnite?

[cobalt rapids]

1-2 is nice to have but depends if u got the other ur blanks prios

[cobalt rapids]

the furniture u use doesnt affect the comfort, its based on what u own

[eternal basalt]

Yes, but confort is limited

[stone sluice]

I got 2 wyverns, 2 NJ guns, 1 rainbow AA (I think I don’t need more since I 3 starred w15) but no twin 100mm kai.
I think I don’t have other priorities than twin 100mm kai

[cobalt rapids]

then yea

[spring bolt]

comfort is calculated with what you have, not what you put the the dorm
you can have unlimited furniture but limited ones will contribute to comfort, and it will automatically count the highest comfort pieces so you don't have to do things like skipping low comfort ones

[spring topaz]

ooo

[half plover]

is the sy-1 missile worth to +13?

it is low on the +13 prio but I dont have that other and I wonder how impactful it is on ddgs anyway

[atomic abyss]

better to +13 the limited SY-1A one

it is very impactful btw

[half plover]

is there any expected rerun for it?

[atomic abyss]

could be next CNY, could be 2 CNYs from now

[half plover]

oh I see

[spring bolt]

devs are free, they rerun as they like, no pattern

[tawny field]

How can I farm oli the most efficient way possible

[atomic abyss]

you don't "farm" oil
all you can do is use oil you're given efficiently

[tawny field]

Ahh... and how do I get more

[atomic abyss]

if you've been farming the event - there is oil in the shop that can be exchanged for event currencies

[eager mulch]

waiting, commissions

[atomic abyss]

besides that, daily/weekly missions, the free weekly 4k oil pack, your canteen, or mail

[tawny field]

Already use all

[tawny field]

Okay

[atomic abyss]

then nothing you can do but wait really

[tawny field]

Sad

[mellow depot]

quic question, let say that shinano is on the 1 fleet and nagato is on the 2. Does shinano get the buff from nyagato skill ?

[cobalt rapids]

nope

[soft raft]

Nagato does not have any cross fleet skills so no
And also Shinano is strong enough to not give a fuck about her

[cobalt rapids]

how scary

[sleek spade]

Is the pr7 CL gun good or no?

[cobalt rapids]

its good vs medium but still worse than ply

[sleek spade]

But how’s the performacompared to USN lab gun and the pr2 gun?

[cobalt rapids]

better vs medium

[sleek spade]

Ah so it’s the best choice I got rn then

Cus I only got 1 ply gun and it’s on ply lol

[atomic abyss]

no 155 kai?

[sleek spade]

Nah just regular 155

Don’t have enough top secrets for that

Need more top secrets

Do corrosion 4 siren coordinate bosses give gold top secrets? I only see them on 5 and 6

[cobalt rapids]

yes but 4-5 are rng

[sleek spade]

Sad

Do I need 155 kai? Ppl been saying reg 155 is fine for w14-15

[cobalt rapids]

155kai is better for cl main guns
155 is better for bb interception in w15
155kai is better for bb interception in w14

[sleek spade]

Mm I see

Pr7 gun is better than these right?

[atomic abyss]

nope

[cobalt rapids]

against medium

[sleek spade]

Dammit! I dont wanna use top secrets on 155

[atomic abyss]

you cant avoid 155 kai for w14 frankly

[sleek spade]

How many do I need? Only 2?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[sleek spade]

Will the USN lab gun work or no?

[cobalt rapids]

and need is a strong word

seattle gun is worse but u can use it for ur cl main guns

[atomic abyss]

i guess you could go twin 137 for w14

[sleek spade]

I alr got 2 copies of those

[bleak mica]

what about the PR6 CL gun? Saw some recommendation somewhere for BBs.

[sleek spade]

I saw Sushi’s testing sheet and sushi concluded 137 are good

So maybe I’ll use 137 cus I already got 1 made for Nj. I just need 1 more

[cobalt rapids]

which testing sheet

[sleek spade]

There was link. Sushi was testing w15 gear and ships

[cobalt rapids]

w14 interception is different than w15, those were w15 ratings

[sleek spade]

Shet

[cobalt rapids]

but, u can do w14 without 155kais

depends on ur fleets rly

[sleek spade]

Forced to use top secrets

[untold fjord]

How good is the IJN gun in PR7 for Musashi?

[sleek spade]

Good mobbing AP gun

[cobalt rapids]

for heavy, same timing as izumo gun and +11 autoloader

i wouldnt use it on mobbing over twin 410

[atomic abyss]

not worth

[sleek spade]

155kai vs seattle gun for CL which one is better?

[cobalt rapids]

pretty much the same

[sleek spade]

Mm ok I’ll just make 155 Kais then. Ty for your advice

Btw how many Georgia gun should someone own? 3?

[cobalt rapids]

1-2

[sleek spade]

I alr got 2 then. Should I save UR top secrets for future or maybe craft that Pr3 Ur CA gun

[cobalt rapids]

i would skip drake gun entirely

[sleek spade]

Ah ok then. I’ll save for now.

[cobalt rapids]

better save for hinden gun or well if ure rich in protocores then get it

[sleek spade]

But isn’t that gun quite good for general purposes?

[cobalt rapids]

general means worse than competitors in their speciality

[sleek spade]

Hmm ok

[eager mulch]

[cobalt rapids]

it is worse than unzen gun on light, worse than hinden gun on medium, sidegrade to hindengun on heavy

its good if u lack the prev mentioned options

[stone gull]

do i have to always full clear a level to maximize lowering the threat or can i just go straight to the boss once it spawns? for example, I'm around chapter 8-4 threat at 50% after doing 2 full clears

[cobalt rapids]

threat lvl decreases based on clears ( post 100% ), aka boss kills so yes rush boss

u should always rush bosh ( as auto-search does ) because it is most efficient use of ur oil due to clearing rewards
outside 3* purposes ofc

[stone gull]

Thanks!

[night pumice]

should I raise yuudachi and retro her or kasumi meta if I'm mostly looking for a decent destroyer and high trp stat

[cobalt rapids]

yuudachi retro isnt worth her cost
and kasumi meta would be just that a trp statstick, shes not good in practice

[storm heron]

wait what, I kai'ed all my 155

how do I unkai for world 15

[cobalt rapids]

u open ur ijn boxes

[crisp estuary]

[polar lion]

How many vit2 do i want?

[cobalt rapids]

2-3 like every other conv tb

[still nest]

What's this 155?

[atomic abyss]

/wiki triple 155mm

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_155mm_(3rd_Year_Type)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_155mm_(3rd_Year_Type)_Kai
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(6"/47_Mk_16)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(6"/47_Mk_17_DP_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(BL_6"_Mk_XXV_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_150mm_(SK_C/25)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(MK-5)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(Mle_1930)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_150mm_(Type_5_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(Model_1934)

Sep 21, 2024, 6:51 PM

[atomic abyss]

first 2

[normal frost]

What's the best boss fleet to use?

[urban solar]

is there a list of gear that is safe to put into the shredder?

[still nest]

Oh thank you

[cobalt rapids]

/equip safe to scrap

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[cobalt rapids]

depends on content

[atomic abyss]

there isn't a single best 1

depends on the content - it varies quite a lot

[normal frost]

Then is there one for like op si and one for chapters maybe?

[opaque gate]

is ayanami the highest torpedo dmg dealing ship?

[cobalt rapids]

yes but its better to get suggestions based on ur dock instead

[atomic abyss]

unzen and shimakaze

aya is shit by comparison

[sweet delta]

shimakaze jintsuum

[normal frost]

Does that mean based on who I have?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[opaque gate]

even purely with torpedo?

[atomic abyss]

yes

shimakaze is just a way better ayanami all round

unzen is if shimakaze had strong gun damage as well

[normal frost]

I have most of the urs, just they aren't fully leveled or built, and I have most of the Srs that people recommend usually. I just don't know who to focus on atm, so I am looking for the best so I can work towards building that team

[cobalt rapids]

post ur dock in a thread

[normal frost]

How do I do that? Or alternatively, is there I site I can use to see a variety of good boss fleets?

[sweet delta]

the site ||is my youtube channel|| does not exist

[low juniper]

This is the fleet I use to do meta battles, would Mogador be better than Helena to take advantage of Alsace's debuff?

[sweet delta]

nothing beats an average helena, usually

[eager mulch]

heleyeah

[low juniper]

Yeah, but in the last battle I did, Helena's skill missed every single time

[sweet delta]

sounds like a rare issue

[low juniper]

Happens fairly often where her skill only hits like once

At least to me

[elfin hollow]

is this good on unzen and azuma

[vale spindle]

its a slight upgrade to the twin 134 cause slightly more fp, but its not good for AA

[elfin hollow]

[thorn skiff]

whats the best way to level the affection for the tempesta ships

[sweet delta]

same as for nontempesta ships

play event, play campaign

[thorn skiff]

so is the 8-4 method still the way for submarine types?

[sweet delta]

it was never the way

[storm heron]

how to farm submarines?

[sweet delta]

just farm normally with your surface fleets and leave the auto submarines on, it's slow but it's resource efficient

[boreal wagon]

for affection setting them as main secretary can also give u an initial 90
(but youll still have to use them anyway after that)

[thorn skiff]

got it at 90

0.0625 or what it was

so just 160 games where the sub get called in

[night crow]

Is it worth using aux gear that increases speed if the vanguard moves really slowly ?

[atomic abyss]

no

not usually at least

[storm heron]

depends but most cases speed reduce damage since torpedoes and gun might be out of range when ship moves too quickly

[atomic abyss]

with the exception of certain gimmicky bosses, it's usually better to be slower

[night crow]

Oh I would've thought the opposite, thanks. Sometimes in OpSi I like playing manual and having a slow vanguard is less fun

[stuck stirrup]

In my opinion, if you're on auto, it has a tendancy to move too much in a circular and back-and-forth pattern and ends up collecting bullets/torpedos and ramming a lot, slower movement lessens the bullet collecting tendancies from what i think

[sweet delta]

depends on the bullets

[stuck stirrup]

Usually mean bosses where they create a pattern then release

[opaque gate]

is there like an interval when we get free ring?

[atomic abyss]

every EN anniversary

[vale spindle]

server anniversary once per year
usually on valentines day once per year

[opaque gate]

cuz im deciding whether to buy a ring or dock exp.

[vale spindle]

don't buy rings its not worth it as a f2p

[atomic abyss]

^

[opaque gate]

i can ring amagi, but she doesnt have a skin so i plan to ring azuma

[sweet delta]

💳 buy both

[opaque gate]

im f2p

[vale spindle]

who you ring doesn't matter, the stat gain doesn't really make a difference

[atomic abyss]

then you shdnt be buying rings

[opaque gate]

how important are dock expansions? how much is enough

[vale spindle]

i have 720 dock space and its just about right for now

[opaque gate]

holy shtt

[atomic abyss]

it depends on how much you intend to keep lol

[stark quiver]

fleet power gaming

[light trail]

never enough, i keep buying more and it barely has enough space by the next event

[vale spindle]

yea i keep 1 copy of most every ship personally

thats normally how it goes yep yep

[light trail]

pull for 5 URs and mlb them all B)

[opaque gate]

is it ok to retire a ship even if i want tech bonus?

[normal frost]

What does the luck stat do? Is it similar to the hit stat?

[vale spindle]

kinda
both are used in the hit rate calculations, do /accuracy in #bot-spam for more info

[light trail]

just keep at least one copy of every ship as a just in case and keep buying dock space when u can

[opaque gate]

okie, thanks

[hollow gust]

It does eventually

[daring sleet]

where can ibuy this?

[cobalt rapids]

event limited

[daring sleet]

setpinvtontv

[stark quiver]

one was from EN anni and other was from CN anni

[hushed delta]

some cn anni items are in the proto shop

[atomic abyss]

left from EN 6th anni, right from CNY 2024 event

both items are not available currently

[daring sleet]

sad ;/ but ty 4 help

[half plover]

is tashkent with her aug usable in w15?

[atomic abyss]

usable, yes ofc
but DDs in general are very ehh for w15

unless your name is laff2

[hushed delta]

Seal of the azure dragon IS available in proto

[cobalt rapids]

thats turtle

[half plover]

so right now even if I build Eldrige retro I got advice to still use JdA in the other fleet so I wonder which ships I would need to get rid of JdA

[atomic abyss]

but that's not seal of the azure dragon

that's the seal of the black? turtle

[hushed delta]

oh

[atomic abyss]

there's literally a turtle there

[sweet delta]

tanky CB/CA or just high damage decently tanky like Unzen

[cobalt rapids]

seal of the tai yuan

[atomic abyss]

wait, was it tortoise or turtle

[cobalt rapids]

tortoise

[hushed delta]

lol sorry

[half plover]

oh yeah I think I was missing some, what would be some non-ur options?

[atomic abyss]

anchorage ig

it depends on what slot you're trying to fill really

to replace jda, you need to replace with lots of chonk

[half plover]

I think JdA took shimantos spot`?

[sweet delta]

or reset battles

[hushed delta]

Is the barrage in the desc. possible without any event ships in the fleet?

[half plover]

I really forgot

[sweet delta]

it doesn't say it needs event ships

[cobalt rapids]

shimanto replaces mog

[half plover]

oh I see

but I am building chesh in case mog fails rn so mog shouldnt be the problem anymore

[hushed delta]

yea but I don't trust in game descriptions

[boreal wagon]

it works as advertised

[sweet delta]

eldridge can somewhat main tank with aquila, i think even more so with volga

[half plover]

so eldr could take anchs spot and anch goes to boss ?

[sweet delta]

Changes the BGM when equipped
is the most important part

could yeah move shimanto to mob

[stark quiver]

what were the fleets for w15 pre-guam/laff2

[hushed delta]

oh, 1 question about bgm, can I change the Main Screen bgm?

[atomic abyss]

you cant

it only changes during like collabs

[half plover]

so it will really depend if I can get shimanto working before finishing JdA mlb

but shima really needs dev30 even if she has like lvl 120-125?

[boreal wagon]

some collab skins can change the music as well, but it wouldnt really call that changing the music at will

[hollow gust]

That looks pretty meh for w15

[hushed delta]

omg why not, you literally have access to all the game songs in the archive, why whyyy.

[boreal wagon]

the archive isnt even a quarter of all the BGM

[atomic abyss]

ofc

[half plover]

it's because of my ships, kron was my first UR

[stark quiver]

the levels dont matter as much

[hushed delta]

I know, it's a part, but still, you could choose

[boreal wagon]

they advertised in some stream i forgot which that it is coming, but thats also ages ago (so who knows if it still will)

[half plover]

( I mean maybe if amagi is really that good she will help in w15 but no idea)

[hollow gust]

You have like no AA

[stark quiver]

she'll help, but thats like the least of your concerns

[half plover]

what would be some AA ships tho

[hollow gust]

No Guam or Laffey?

[half plover]

no UR before kron

[atomic abyss]

i wouldnt bother with w15

[stark quiver]

the vanny fleet has like 0 AA in vanguard

[hollow gust]

Yeaaah that's gonna get clapped by 15-1

[half plover]

[hollow gust]

Not even gonna consider w15-4

[atomic abyss]

if your first UR is kron, meaning you missed soyuz

[half plover]

yeah I missed her

[sweet delta]

*a twentieth

[atomic abyss]

both ships AND gear will be an issue

[boreal wagon]

thats still less than a quarter

[cobalt rapids]

you can just follow the advice from the thread and try like that and come back when issues

[half plover]

yeah no worries, I was just curious why I would need JdA if eldridge usually replaces her

[atomic abyss]

trying to clear w15 within 6 months is nothing short of impossible with your current roster lmao

[cobalt rapids]

coz 2 fleets means jda + jda pro max good

[atomic abyss]

i think abdou did it within 8 months admittedly - but pretty sure he had guam and laff2

[half plover]

I will follow umis advice and prove u all wrong that I can speedrun w15

[atomic abyss]

most people would need at least a year to clear w15

[sweet delta]

dont feel bad, it took some people 5 years

[atomic abyss]

w15 hasnt been out for that long

[atomic abyss]

and yeah

i have 0 confidence in this fleet

[light trail]

apart from ply gun what gear is desired from pr5 that is actually used over things i got from pr4?

[half plover]

I mean at least the ships in that fleet are universally good so nothing wrong to build and try with it first

[sweet delta]

there's twin 130 but that has lots of sidegrades or upgrades in gear lab and elsewhere

[atomic abyss]

and as i always say to people

the upside of rushing past w13 is minimal

[light trail]

so do i just go for one ply gun and then dip after finishing pr5 if im not close to a second one?

[atomic abyss]

and usually ends up with you suffering and raging more than anything

[light trail]

or do i want more than one ply gun?

[half plover]

I think u want more than one ply gun and pr5 is good to stay in for gear, pr6 sucks and pr7 is good again

[steep bobcat]

are any of the series 6 research equipment worth buying PR prints for? I've taken a break from the game so I have everythingPR5 and before

[atomic abyss]

you will want many ply guns

but come back for them AFTER getting the ships you need from other series

[light trail]

would it be fine to finish pr5 with 2 ply guns and then move to other seasons for maxing ships, then coming back to 5 for another ply gun?

[atomic abyss]

i would move on after getting the 1 from PR and 1 from protocore

[half plover]

yeah like ender said

[light trail]

gotcha

[steep bobcat]

mb didnt realise there was a different convo

[light trail]

that was the plan, ty for the confirmation

[atomic abyss]

...assuming you alr got what you needed ship wise

[light trail]

i wouldnt consider a season finished without all the ships maxed

but i uhhh got a ways to go so i'll be here for a few months

harbin catchup really did me a solid tho, same with plymouth boost events

[normal frost]

Is it worth pulling for event banner duplicates or going to the standard banners to try to get a standard duplicate and/or retire the ur to get more ur bulin material

[atomic abyss]

neither

[light trail]

i've always been told here to only go for one of each in an event, but only if the reasons to pull for a ship apply to you (or if it's a UR event)

[atomic abyss]

you do 1 light build a day once you done with UR events

thats to save cubes

[light trail]

this section that's always in the pinned messages

[half plover]

there is a hard limit for specialised core so if u buy them with medals you wont get more from scrapping URs if you reached limit

5k active playing and 1k extra

[light trail]

wait do medal protocores count towards the limit if you havent reached it yet?

[normal frost]

I just keep running out of UR bulins so I never manage to mlb UR ships

[atomic abyss]

medal spec core is separate

[light trail]

should i buy them after farming 5k?

[atomic abyss]

so you get 6k a month

[half plover]

I did some math and you get like 2.34 UR bulins / month

[boreal wagon]

the medal ones are 1k on top of limit regardless of if you have reached the limit yet or not

[light trail]

ok so order doesnt matter, nice. i hadnt paid attention so i was worried i was scamming myself this whole time lol

[normal frost]

Are there any other ways beside event points or buying them from shop?

[half plover]

that number includes bulins from cruise or event bulins

[woeful sluice]

At which point should I stop farming the event?

[half plover]

but yeah cruise missions every 2 months give one

[light trail]

so you get enough to mlb 7 URs per year (approximately)

[half plover]

yeah

[atomic abyss]

whenever you want to, really
some stop at 30k for UR bulin
others go to 55k for the gold plates and to clear most of the shop

[normal frost]

Ok, ty

[woeful sluice]

cheers

[gaunt dagger]

is fdg better than kearsarge?

[sweet delta]

sometimes

[atomic abyss]

in some cases, like campaign, yes

[sweet delta]

basically nowhere outside of campaign

[gaunt dagger]

ok

[deep solstice]

ok so i recently came back to the game (not that i got even that far in the first try) but i dont have enough cubes to pity amagi cv, should is till pull on the banner?

[atomic abyss]

yes - always a chance you'll get her early

[gaunt dagger]

does dorm need to have food for the morale buff?

oh ok

[normal frost]

Does chapter 15 require high asw like the last 2 stages of chapter 14?

[stark quiver]

it requires equal amounts

[tepid crater]

I've seen Mogador recommended a few times instead of Implacable for the nagato meta fight. Mostly it seems to make make for a BB. So my question is can Mogador replace Implaccable in non Nagato Meta fights for her impale so that you could run amagi/shin/hak or is there like a syncing issue or duration of the root issue that only works cuz nagato doesnt move much/fast

[soft raft]

most likely the latter

[viscid swift]

Mogador's root isn't long in duration so you have to do some pretty precise timings, not to mention she can still miss and not freeze the enemy at all

[hollow gust]

Mogador is use because of very specific interaction between nagato movement animation and mogador. If you want to use triple cv backline without implacable then I suggest Eldridge

[viscid swift]

we're using her because we couldn't be able to stack enough damage to kill her consistently with Implacable or Nahkimov

[cobalt rapids]

mogador can only sync 1 strike in a 3-4 strike
in nagato meta ure only syncing mog to 3rd strike

[spring bolt]

tested implac, the issue is insufficient damage, so 3 ijn is preferred
mog does her job well in stopping the boss when the 3rd airstrike arrives

[cobalt rapids]

eldridge instead of mog is also pretty consistent but mog will peak higher

[sweet delta]

did it fail already? If you said "pretty"

[cobalt rapids]

i had 1 fail today

[sweet delta]

Oh well mogs are capped at 9/10 too

[cobalt rapids]

well it was 1,403k i think so mby +13 auxes on unzen and gumo wouldve made it a a kill
and more tech

[sweet delta]

you don't have +13

[cobalt rapids]

fumo is +13

[low juniper]

Which of Shinano's skills should I prioritize

[hollow gust]

My best comp is Alsace now

[cobalt rapids]

all, do 6/6/6 if u wanna minmax it for use

[hollow gust]

I managed to bring it down to 16 bars before last airstrike once

[sweet delta]

how healthy is mog witht those auxes?

[hollow gust]

I still use towel and goldburn , don't trust that aux yet

[sweet delta]

also nice nepgun

[half plover]

which boss it that

[hollow gust]

Riciest got lazy with gearing , i got the Plymouth ofc

[low juniper]

How good is Watarase? Or have the samvaluations not come out yet?

[atomic abyss]

decent gold CL - no samvulations yet iirc

[low juniper]

Damage or support?

[half plover]

I could kinda build that fleet but who could replace unzen? 😭

[sweet delta]

good generic gold CL who has fleet restrictions

[atomic abyss]

she's meant to dps

"meant"

[low juniper]

And what are those

[sweet delta]

you should go with a different faster fleet with helena then

[half plover]

ty

[atomic abyss]

she wants a sakura ship in flag

and is reliant on skill barrages for her damage

[viscid swift]

according to Jimmy, Ibuki

[atomic abyss]

ibuki's damage isnt nearly as much

you're probably gonna get close, but not enough for OHKO

[hollow gust]

If you are running triple sakura backline you won't need unzen that badly

[viscid swift]

can't comment on consistency but it certainly is possible

[jolly wasp]

Which pool should i built ?

[hollow gust]

Not a fan of implacable at all, just worse then Alsace or haku

[atomic abyss]

event

[forest palm]

using Walmart Unzen

[jolly wasp]

i just return , no good ships

[cobalt rapids]

implac and mog

[half plover]

does cheshire want a torp to deal damage or another one like the tripple purple or double blue to reset skills?

this torp is a leftover so dont mind it

[viscid swift]

have you read her skills?

[forest palm]

Cheshire's torps are absolute shit

[half plover]

oh and the skills only proc once

so she can keep that torp

[jolly wasp]

this are what i got.. can only form one team..

[forest palm]

reminds me of how disappointing Cheshire's F5 is

[viscid swift]

give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

read this

[forest palm]

[cyan dust]

Question is there anyone with actual confirmation of anyone getting Kaga from 3-4?

I've gotten Akagi like three or four times now all in... However long it's been since this game's gotten an EN server and not once have I gotten Kaga.

[eager mulch]

you’re just unlucky

[half plover]

yes and you shouldnt do that

[atomic abyss]

it's called rng

[stark quiver]

It’s both rng

[atomic abyss]

not like its worth farming them

[eager mulch]

need them to pair with my amagi cv

[half plover]

oh she is drop only I thought she is also in BB shop

[atomic abyss]

that's BB Kaga, not CV

[cyan dust]

That....

Yeah that's BB Kaga

[half plover]

CV*

I am too tired already hahaha

BBV Akagi when

[unkempt raptor]

Helena would be better for debuffs than Plymouth right? Should I run Helena instead for my boss fleet?

[cyan dust]

I'm not gonna lie the RNG for this sucks when you can't get anything for like. Five years or however long this game's been out.

[atomic abyss]

considering that the IJN BBVs are garbage, please no

[undone plover]

Double toolbox on cruiser is not ideal
I think u get more effective HP from using even a blue evasion aux

[cobalt rapids]

why not both

[jolly wasp]

That is pretty helpful

[slender python]

i've gotten kaga before akagi

[half plover]

oh really? I didn't know that

[jolly wasp]

So, u shouldnt use the Combat Data EXP ?

I just used it all....

[atomic abyss]

yes you shouldnt, convert them to protocore

exp grinding is the easiest part for research

[undone plover]

Well I havent ran the numbers but i believe it is ~~mebot doko ~~

[atomic abyss]

it is faer

[jolly wasp]

i see..

[atomic abyss]

that's like a year 1 established fact

[unkempt raptor]

I want to run shimakaze and Unzen too, should I just replace Unzen then?

[viscid swift]

for what exactly

[half plover]

maybe I can already use her in main tank position then

[jolly wasp]

Btw, is this event fleet wort pulling? or skip

[eager mulch]

just in general

[undone plover]

The UR is worth

[viscid swift]

Amagi CV is worth pulling for

[atomic abyss]

UR events are always worth pullinh

[half plover]

I am corpse dragging shropshire at this point in my cdc fleet 😭

[undone plover]

The CL is also good but dont go chasing for her

[viscid swift]

then drop down to 12-1? so you potentially don't have to corpse drag

[cobalt rapids]

content? rest of the fleet?
a big flag UR bb will give ply more value over unzen usually

and ofc helena is irreplaceable if u want biggest dmg

[unkempt raptor]

This is my boss fleet, I was reading Helena skills and she seems more better debuffer than Plymouth.

[sweet delta]

yeah so replace shimakaze

actually that's campaign so maybe not use helena

[cobalt rapids]

yea what content is it for

[undone plover]

Ply is also a better tank than unzen (marginally) so better her in unzen’s place
But also neither are really a tank and might struggle depending on content

[unkempt raptor]

I’m struggling on 14-2

[still nest]

Corpse drag?

[cobalt rapids]

better open thread and post dock, i feel like its a gear issue but fleets can be optimized

[viscid swift]

corpse dragging is farming with a ship that dies before the run is complete

not a practice I like or have even seen the point of myself

[unkempt raptor]

Damn idk how to do that lol

[sweet delta]

type /thread threadname

[eternal basalt]

Works fine in OPSI, not regular campaign/event

[deep solstice]

is commission the best way to get dorm tokens cause i want to get the expansion to get to floor 2
also is there a guide for coin/gear farming stages?

[eternal basalt]

Best way is maxed out cat dorm

[deep solstice]

i don't think im high enough level yet. sry forgot to mention that
my ships avg level is around 40 but my commander lv is only 29

[soft raft]

comissions are basically the main source of dorm coins
As for coin/gear farming, W9+ for farming gold, ideally W12

And you dont farm campaign for gear, you farm opsi for gear lab materials

[deep solstice]

ic
mb i forgot to mention the before w9 part since im still pretty early into the game
was also wonderign if i should do event stages or campaign stages rn

[soft raft]

event when event is active
push/grind campaign when event isnt active

[deep solstice]

is that until i buy out the shop? after that do i go back to focusing on campaign?

[viscid swift]

until you buy what you need from the shop, buying out the shop is prohibitively expensive

[jolly wasp]

How u get the cube for building ? events and dailies ?

[viscid swift]

doing your dailies and weekly missions, logging in to the game daily, doing commissions, etc

[keen sable]

Can you do D3?

[deep solstice]

i doubt it. my ships are only about lv 45 avg and im only commander lv 29

[keen sable]

Ahh nm L40 shipe

Stick to daily bonus. Buy the important stuff. If you're feeling frisky then do a little low cost event farming but it won't level your ships.

[ebon oxide]

Why is the NY opsi shop only showing these 5 same items across multiple refresh periods?

[keen sable]

You bought everything else it has already

[coarse heron]

You need to finish Chapter 4 before the proper OpSi Shop unlocks.

[ebon oxide]

so if I buy everything here, there won't be any new items before the monthly opsi reset?

understood, ty

[stark quiver]

Is l audicieux one of the top sr dds

[viscid swift]

yes

[jolly wasp]

Should i ?

[vale spindle]

yes

[jolly wasp]

Usually gems are spent in whr ?

[crisp raven]

if you play for free, its generally recommended to buy 1 dorm slot for 300, buy the 2nd floor dorm for 500 (800 total) and the rest in dockyard.

[strong tartan]

is the wiki down

actually wait

[jolly wasp]

my smol dockyard

Gonna lb laffey for mission

Lack 1 vanguard to finish team 1 though..

[summer grail]

How can I get more Royal Navy to unlock Monarch?

It says I'm missing 10.

[cursive lark]

You are missing 10 royal navy MAIN ships

[hollow gust]

Getting stuff like Hood Nelson Unicorn etc

[summer grail]

Which are the mains?

[hollow gust]

Ark Royal , Renown ,Repulse,QE, the monitors ,Rodney

You buy unicorn, get Nelson from beginners missions , hood /illustrious from medal shop, and rest are drop ships or gatcha

[jolly wasp]

Beside laffey, what ship waifu should i mlb ?

[hollow gust]

Whichever one you are using

[coarse heron]

Bulins aren't rare enough for you to not limit break ships you're actively using

[summer grail]

ty

[soft raft]

you should be MLB'ing anyone you plan on using at all

[jolly wasp]

Than its Laffey and Indiana first.

my only 2 elite

[soft raft]

indiana is a SR
unless you meant Indianapolis who is just categorically dogshit

Use Portland instead

[eager mulch]

[jolly wasp]

Why does this sound, familiar.. ?

yup i heard it before, Portland Retro and Laffey

and i dont have portland yet in this new acc.

Is she, gud ?

[coarse heron]

Portland is your best early tank (just uhhh don't level her skills)

[coarse heron]

the Elite Meta ships are generally garbage, unfortunately

[jolly wasp]

ok then, throw it into commision

Hope i can get a UR in my next 10 builts..

[coarse heron]

they're free, but for a new player spending yellow skill books just to unlock their skills is generally a poor investment

[jolly wasp]

Free = garbage, the unchange rule of the universe(although sometimes not)

ohoho, this might be a good ship

[coarse heron]

good joke

[sweet delta]

#al-general

[viscid swift]

you have read the newbie tips right?

[jolly wasp]

Yes, im watching it

[viscid swift]

uh what

[coarse heron]

it's not a video.

[jolly wasp]

Scrolling up and down, to memorize the thing

So i dont fk up thing

[coarse heron]

It's generally impossible to permanently fuck your account (unless you scrap the Hedgehog )

[tropic tusk]

u see that paw on the left bottom click it

[viscid swift]

so uhh, where's your Unicorn then, and Portland, and Helena

[tropic tusk]

if u click all paw u will unlock akashi

[jolly wasp]

oh yeah, i forgot bout it

[coarse heron]

Portland is free after finishing 2-1, where's your Portland

[jolly wasp]

i used to have her by, accident XD

ahh, the good days with my wife Graf Zeppelin

[tropic tusk]

unicorn is free also in shop where is she

[deep solstice]

is there a guide somewhere for research academy?

[tropic tusk]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[normal frost]

When should I start focusing on a sub fleet, or should I only worry about it once I have a few very solid surface fleets

[stark quiver]

Earlier the better, granted you actually have the recommended subs

[normal frost]

Which ones would those be

[coarse heron]

U-96 shows up in Medal of Honour shop, U-37 is Merit Shop, rest of the good subs are gacha

[stark quiver]

Flasher albacore archer fish
Forgot the kms comp

[tropic tusk]

these 4 choose 3

[coarse heron]

KMS is 81, 96, 37, 47, pick 3

[normal frost]

Ok, ty

[coarse heron]

101 isn't as good as those 4 but she's a very close 2nd place

[tropic tusk]

u can get u37 from war archrive

[stark quiver]

Also about subs, is the Kms sub torps from gear lab a good replacement for bidder

[coarse heron]

the G7e Acoustic? It's good yeah

[hollow gust]

It's worse but if you don't have anything else use g7e

[stark quiver]

Nice thanks, still waiting on one more set of bidders + 1

[hollow gust]

Pure KMS subs are dead lul, it's either mixed or eagle

[left cedar]

kinda not worth it dive into WA for specific ships, specially when the difference between 47 and 37 its quite low

[tropic tusk]

isnt flasher limited tho?

[stark quiver]

Yes

[normal frost]

Whcih ones would that be then

[viscid swift]

I haven't raised a new sub since Da Vinci

[coarse heron]

That depends entirely on which subs you have. 37 and 96 are a lot easier to get when starting out compared to "roll gacha"

[stark quiver]

time to grind sub tech