gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

carl is actually really damn good lmao

[left cedar]

if compared to SF, less dmg, a bit more chonky, but considerable far from Ancho or others tankers

[atomic abyss]

her damage is way higher than you'd imagine for a typical tank

actually, what other AA options do you even have

[civic crag]

Probably only sandykai and Laffii

[atomic abyss]

that aint enough yeah

[civic crag]

Ok I just tested it out and indep being 105 is actually a huge problem she can’t even clear one wave with a wyvern

[atomic abyss]

[civic crag]

What are some good CL AA options also don’t u have slow mode

[atomic abyss]

i suggest you either look into cheshire (CA) from PR3, or shimanto from PR6

[civic crag]

I’ll take a look at shimanto thanks

[atomic abyss]

that or you go triple CV on mob and throw sandy to boss

[ebon lion]

2nd Fleet still doesn't feel right. Who can I switch out?

[whole crypt]

Amagi probably

[civic crag]

Maybe my account just isn’t good enough for 13-4H yet lololol

[atomic abyss]

amagi is the odd one out - fleet 2 shd be a mob fleet instead tbh

[whole crypt]

3 is probably mob but I don't see what 2 is doing at all

[atomic abyss]

i'd rather remove enty from fleet 1 and throw amagi there

then i'd move fdg and uvh to fleet 3 and remove owari and sara

[left cedar]

waifu fleet, since Op.Si its all about 2 fleets
1 to pew pew bosses
1 to pew pew mobs

[atomic abyss]

ideally - 3 fleets, 1 mob 2 boss

[haughty dust]

Has Amagi CV been tested enough yet to determine how good or not good she is yet?

[atomic abyss]

she is at the very least, the same level as hakuryuu and shinano
most likely better

[ebon lion]

so keep fleet 2 empty? I'll prolly throw more random bullshit in there then

I take the suggestions tho

[atomic abyss]

your fleet 2 seems the most random

[left cedar]

from wut seens like she would be somehow better but needed with Shin or Haky or both cuz she buff them ...

[ebon lion]

that is indeed true

[atomic abyss]

the lack of august/impla is rather concerning tho

[keen sable]

using L105 ships on 13-4H would seem to make this true

[civic crag]

I saw this dude use Gloucester for 13-4H, why?

[ebon lion]

I don't have Implacable and as for AvP I don't really know why I didn't place her anywhere

[keen sable]

doesn't understand how 13-4H works

[lament bay]

is evasion fleet tech high priority for dds to upgrade? is there somewhere i could read the general priority since i only know hit+reload for bb/cvs

[keen sable]

or alternatively is doing something dumb

[left cedar]

DDs almost dosnt benefit from EVA cuz they EVA already way to higher to be impactfull

[keen sable]

i guess both options are dumb

[civic crag]

YouTube really is some of the most unreliable shit huh, said in the comments that Gloucester is irreplaceable

[atomic abyss]

the complete opposite
eva tech for DD is the LOWEST priority

well, eva and AA i suppose

if you are looking into DD tech, look for FP tech

[left cedar]

pretty sure ASW tech isnt something "needed" but indeed more needed than EVA, on DDs

[atomic abyss]

prio for frontline tech shd be CA/CB eva (there's very few)

[keen sable]

dd eva stronk

[left cedar]

iirc 7 EVA for them

[gaunt dagger]

is good aa more important for vanguard or main fleet?

[atomic abyss]

then you can look into FP

[wind hazel]

both

[gaunt dagger]

ywah but if i dont have enough of the best for both which one to prioritize

[left cedar]

its 4 EVA for CA/CB

[wind hazel]

don't have enough of what?

[keen sable]

23

[wind hazel]

like CV use planes, vanguard use AA gun, those are not the same thing

[left cedar]

AA tech isnt something u need to concern ... they are low prio for every hull ...

BUT
if u wanna do it, them CL is the "highest" prio for AA Tech

[low lintel]

Hey guys, i'm using this guide to do my equipment but it doesn't mention anything about BB specific secondary guns. What should i do?

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#main_fleet_secondary_guns

[keen sable]

that's exactly what main fleet secondary guns are?

[whole crypt]

there's like 20 AA tech for CLs... which adds to like less than 5% of Sandy or Shimanto

[low lintel]

Oh is that so? What their marked as CL and DD so i got confused

[atomic abyss]

because BB secondaries are CL guns or DD guns

[keen sable]

because some bb can only use dd

[low lintel]

I see, so just follow and i should be fine right?

[keen sable]

although my impression is 137 is actually pretty good on all bb?

[whole crypt]

bottom line it's not bad

[left cedar]

i did mention they are low prio for every hull ... and even if he plan to do it, them should be for CLs, cuz is the majority of time the ones that better use it ...

[atomic abyss]

the better question is why would you craft more 137s than you need

[soft raft]

Very Pog for DD locked BBs
But I honestly wouldn't really bother mass producing it for others when 155/155 Kai exists

[left cedar]

probally after CLs, strangely i think that should be main to mitigate enemy planes dmg ...

[whole crypt]

because you don't have enough q152s 🥲

[atomic abyss]

isnt that wat 155 kai is for

[left cedar]

Isnt Suchi claiming that 137 is a better for intercept in W14/15 ?

[whole crypt]

didn't stig or whoever test and 137 came out better for 15

[atomic abyss]

15 i can accept, the real question is 14 - where it actually matters a lot more

[keen sable]

no claim on 14. stopping searchlights is unique to 14

[whole crypt]

the solution is obviously get more q152s

yup works fine now

[zenith locust]

How useful is sirius in late game?

[whole crypt]

generic CV fleet buffer

[hollow gust]

Alrighty did 5 runs of Nagato meta 5/5 oneshots . Notice a pattern that if I overkill , Haku wins , if I don't Amagi does.Amagi won 2/5 times

[weary gust]

Who is the DD at the bottom?

[hollow gust]

Either way , Amagi is so busted

[atomic abyss]

kazagumo

[atomic abyss]

not useful in campaign, very useful for operation siren and certain meta showdowns for CV fleets

[whole crypt]

well that Amagi isn't max affinity yet so

[left cedar]

situational with CVs fleets
high dmg stages like META fights or challenges generally Sirius dosnt survive to be worth it
but once she can survive, she is ideal with CV Fleets

[zenith locust]

Ok thx

[whole crypt]

also my shitty +12 VIT

[hollow gust]

You are using the Vit2 setup so she wins very often

Mine has the manjuu so less damage

[whole crypt]

that version Amagi launches later than Hakuryuu I guess?

[hollow gust]

Mines still faster , idk why the pattern appears

Either way , Amagi is def best ship for heavy

[whole crypt]

also first UR CV with a slightly less rubbish cross fleet barrage

[hollow gust]

Still shit tho

[whole crypt]

yeh, but the competition

[hollow gust]

Very interesting note though , I was down to 21 bars before last strike , pre fix , it's normal to see 30+

[whole crypt]

yeh

damage is clearly higher of course

[hollow gust]

I think I will have a 100% oneshot rate , unless mog and unzen really fuck up

[whole crypt]

it's torp RNG at that point but there's enough spare unless you have a really bad roll

[hollow gust]

Exactly

[whole crypt]

with lunge pulling you in on some of the torp timings though I don't think it'll be a huge issue

[sick stone]

how good is amagi CV?

[hollow gust]

Honestly Eldridge might be more reliable since you don't need the damage

[hollow gust]

Busted like every other gatcha UR

[cobalt rapids]

very good

[sick stone]

is she better than yorktown 2?

[atomic abyss]

different teams and uses

[sick stone]

ic

[whole crypt]

if you want to game with her slow on flag launch maybe but mogs also adds torp damage?

[haughty dust]

Thank you for the update.

[cobalt rapids]

also mog is a freeze(when she lands) not a slow

[whole crypt]

that's for the last launch but it's still not 100% consistent

[hollow gust]

Basically a stun , for the bottom team 17 rld is best from my runs

[whole crypt]

that's even if mogs doesn't die

[hollow gust]

If she survives it's like 98% consistent , if she doesn't it's like 50/50 of you oneshot

[cobalt rapids]

does she have 98% hitrate?

[hollow gust]

Gotta rely on haku's tenrai

[whole crypt]

she doesn't but you can still land last round even if she misses

[hollow gust]

If you oath that mogador you won't have survivability issues

[whole crypt]

for whatever reason I did choose to oath mogs, which is rare

[cobalt rapids]

my oathed mog died 3 times in a row yesterday

[hollow gust]

Towel?

[left cedar]

git gud moment

[cobalt rapids]

tower usb

[whole crypt]

considering I didn't oath guam, agir, unzen or plymouth

[hollow gust]

Kinda is ngl , my toweled mog is quite reliable

[left cedar]

just joking with 🌊

[tall reef]

who is better?

[cobalt rapids]

helena

[hollow gust]

Also USB no good , use a diff +13 gold aux

[whole crypt]

right there staring into your soul

what I'm using on mogs

[hollow gust]

~I'll let her stare at me however long she wants , my favorite blue haired girly~~

[keen sable]

wow a new player who found the guild shop on their own? i'm impressed

[hollow gust]

Same

[keen sable]

now to realize refresh costs nothing

[tall reef]

Should I choose someone else?

[hollow gust]

U got the 2 good ones

[tall reef]

xd

[hollow gust]

Pennsylvania Pheonix and Portland worth getting too
They are blue

[left cedar]

Portland isnt guaranteed ?

so i think that Pennsy its more likely to be taken

[whole crypt]

you get a copy for clearing 2-1

[left cedar]

yeah, already counting a extra for LB ...

[whole crypt]

not much point taking Phoenix since you're taking Helena anyway

[stuck stirrup]

i'm kinda meh on picking up phoenix, by the time you need to use her over what the game stuffs you with, she's outclassed

[keen sable]

phoenix is really sus

[left cedar]

Phoenix works for low cost farm ... but nowadays its ... strange think

[whole crypt]

like phoenix is not bad but when you're doing 1 fleet Portland/starter/Helena then Phoenix has no place to go

[hollow gust]

You can rush to w12 in like 1-2 weeks , usually won't have much better . When you need another fleet Pheonix can mob tank

[whole crypt]

you can get her later and book/dorm her

[viscid swift]

I use em command instead of goldburn

[keen sable]

more likely you will run into an event or hard mode requiring torps and wonder what you did wrong

[whole crypt]

or you could also take phoenix first and helena later but the net result is basically the same

[tall reef]

Ty everyone

[hollow gust]

Overkill?

That unzen did a lot lmao

[whole crypt]

this shit is weird

4/5 oneshot 2 Amagi MVP 2 Hakuryuu

[lament lichen]

Lucky bags aren't worth it right?

[keen sable]

not before double gem

[whole crypt]

unless you want every single skin in that bag probably not

[wary timber]

should i build another flapjack , tigercat, xsb3c-1 or skypirate? i have enough mats to make one more while i save the rest to make my 2nd wyvern

[hollow gust]

Well mine averages 160k rn, CVs are stipid strong

[keen sable]

you would never build the last 2...

[whole crypt]

0 CA RLD apparently

[hollow gust]

Actually ykw, my unzen has been doing a lot too, nvm

[hollow gust]

+6 for non oathed

[whole crypt]

well yeh

[wary timber]

i built one xsb3c-1 not long ago for fun. but im looking to arm Shinano or Implacable with a good fighter at least. so Tigercat (i have spare hellcats) or a flapjack

[whole crypt]

either or, whichever feels easier for you
there's no significant difference outside of maxing AA

[wary timber]

so... flapjack ?

[wind hazel]

sure flapjack works

[silk helm]

Is there a way to attempt a stage without oil (and not getting rewards/xp)

[spring bolt]

just get flapjack

[wind hazel]

challenge mode

unless you mean specific stage then yeah, no way

[heady grove]

idk must focus what first , have citrus too... what should i upgrade?

still lvl 1 citrus just got

[livid badger]

hi, how can I fit plymouth in my opsi fleets? I'm assuming instead of mogador and mog instead of emden

[soft raft]

sounds like you need to give this a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[heady grove]

ok ty

[soft raft]

Yes and sure ig
Assuming your ply is properly raised of course

[whole crypt]

at that level I'll probably drop Helena

[livid badger]

tyty

[livid badger]

so agir plymouth mogador?

[whole crypt]

Plymouth offtank

with those ships and levels unless you're gearing wrongly you're going to vaporize bosses without Helena RNG anyway

[livid badger]

gonna sound dumb but i never really got into opsi yet, so i use mainly research gear rn

[whole crypt]

should still vaporize bosses fine

[livid badger]

alright tyty

i still replace emden for helena right?

[whole crypt]

I don't see why you'd ever need to use fleet 4 again but sure

[livid badger]

lmao alright ty

[quick notch]

How do you obtain Sirius?

[whole crypt]

/wiki sirius

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Sirius
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Sirius/Questline
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Sirius/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Sirius/Gallery

Sep 19, 2024, 4:21 PM

[livid badger]

wait should i move fdg or nj to mob fleet then

instead of ruppy

[whole crypt]

you can, might improve autoing strongholds but you're probably fine either way

[livid badger]

alright

[quick notch]

I don’t really get it.

[hollow gust]

Click the link

[atomic abyss]

mainly just medal shop in other words

though the 6th anniversary selector also has sirius

[quick notch]

Then am blind..I checked but didn’t see her..my bad

[shell willow]

medal shop is random

[quick notch]

Say what

[atomic abyss]

medal shop ship choices are random - shes not always there

[whole crypt]

medal shop rotates 2 hull classes at random every month, so you may not have CLs to pick this month

[quick notch]

Ahh got it. Thanks so much. I would had been so confused otherwise

[atomic abyss]

she's only selectable right now for avrora and amagi

[silent relic]

is there a chart where it tells what ships are good to keep

[whole crypt]

you could try the tier list but the answer is really all of them

[silent relic]

show me

[whole crypt]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/

[quick notch]

I’ll spare you the trouble with explaining what that is.

[stuck stirrup]

all ships are good to keep at least one copy of because they essentially give you bonus stats and "points" to unlocking research based ships as you slowly upgrade them, that being said, the tier list gives a better idea of which ships are good to actually use

[silent relic]

thx

[stuck stirrup]

dock space is the real meta

[silent relic]

had portland and helena at max BL so guess theres no reason to keep more dupes of them?

[stuck stirrup]

you need one extra of portland for retrofit

[silent relic]

its just stuck at my dock rn

ah

[whole crypt]

same for any ship dupes beyond MLB (and retrofit) are useless
and you can always replace with bulin

[silent relic]

only one?

[stuck stirrup]

retrofitting most non-SR ships takes one dupe ship (or bulin)

[whole crypt]

depends on ship, the SRs besides Yuudachi use more

[silent relic]

i see... tho ill jsut start disposing rare tier ships

had a bunch of epics and SRs on my disposal rn

[whole crypt]

well if you're not sure then bottom line purple and blue dupes are pretty safe to trash since purple bulins are easy to get

[raven marsh]

can you get non rate up UR from amagi banner?

[atomic abyss]

no

[cobalt rapids]

nop

[whole crypt]

perm URs are not in any event pools

[soft raft]

[silent relic]

ill profit with medals

[half plover]

how good is haku at dev28?

I think I can just start leveling her to 120 and get the last 90 prints during that time ig, but she cant be used for bosses etc right

[inner delta]

you just miss tech

and the last upgrade from 30

[half plover]

the main upgrade is that slot 3 changes to dive bombers?

[sweet delta]

The main upgrade is fleet tech

[cobalt rapids]

the main upgrades are +planes and eff

[keen sable]

the main upgrade is she gets a lot better

[half plover]

I think +planes is at dev25

[cobalt rapids]

oh yea i meant overall

[half plover]

so the +5% eff is still huge at dev30

[cobalt rapids]

no

[half plover]

but seems like I can already use her to almost full potential

[keen sable]

you can't

[half plover]

ah fs5 is a thing right

[whole crypt]

it's shit to time her without fleet tech but you do you

[keen sable]

seriously she's missing over 20% off full potential and y'all are saying yes

[sweet delta]

Haku 5-10% worse but paired with Shinano or amagi is still better than all gold CVs at heavy

[forest palm]

sub 30 Haku is awful to time with other CVs, she's an absolute snail

[whole crypt]

well she does have all her planes by 25, but you're missing timing and other stats from tech

[cobalt rapids]

thats not a problem if u dont have the rld tech in the first place

[whole crypt]

well it's probably not going to be 0 if you can get Hakuryuu... unless you forgot to level faction at all

[half plover]

let me check

[cobalt rapids]

my estimates say below 10

[forest palm]

what do you mean you don't have max RLD Tech for your CVs, that would be dishonorable

[raven marsh]

how important is fs5 agir and haku

[half plover]

not that great ig

[raven marsh]

or can i move on to pr6 after lv30

[sweet delta]

Agir fs5 is not important right now

[keen sable]

fs5 agir is really good. maybe

[sweet delta]

🔮

[inland shoal]

Little reason not to get Haku fs5 imo
Also could go for Tenrai depending on how far away you are
Would go for 5 over 6 too probably

[raven marsh]

Oh oops sorry yeah meant pr5

[half plover]

I think I will go to pr6 after pr4 to finish shimanto and then stay at pr5 for a while for ply and others

got to speedrun that shimanto

[forest palm]

I'd say go to 7 over 6, but that's me

[silk helm]

7>5>6?

[half plover]

I think there is no one in pr7 that can substitute shimanto right now in w14 or w15

[soft raft]

5 > 6 >=/== 7

[half plover]

and I dont have a gacha ship either for that

[forest palm]

personally speaking 4 → 5 → 7 → 6

[raven marsh]

why is shimanto so good

[whole crypt]

because she is

[sweet delta]

You don't have sandy?

[half plover]

I got lvl 125 aug sandy

[silk helm]

ty

[atomic abyss]

AA, damage, ASW, tankiness

[half plover]

but I am missing other ships for a good fleet so that sandy already has a spot in both w14 and w15

[topaz smelt]

Burn heal

[whole crypt]

Shimanto isn't that exceptional for 14 when her AA counts for much less but she's just overall solid

[stoic flicker]

how is amagi cv? probably should've asked this before doing already 70 pulls...

[whole crypt]

you could probably game Bayard for ch14 but that's not going to fly for 15

[half plover]

I will have to build shimanto, eldrige and JdA before I start w14 and w15 so I am just going for that haha

[stuck stirrup]

worth

[atomic abyss]

you should always spend cubes for LIMITED URs, so it's not a bad idea

[hollow gust]

Giga busted like all URs

[half plover]

or maybe I dont need shima with JdA

[atomic abyss]

she's very strong anyways

[whole crypt]

we've not had a single bad gacha UR to date

[topaz smelt]

Mog

[whole crypt]

mog wasn't gacha and she's great after fix

[soft raft]

well that was more like a extremely scuffed intial release

[half plover]

I can remember moggy hate when she came out

[silent relic]

who should i get to retrofit first, Portland or Helena?

[half plover]

portland first imo

[hollow gust]

Mog is good , not op

[whole crypt]

I specifically said gacha URs

[soft raft]

Unicorn > Portland > Your starter DD > Helena

[atomic abyss]

port - you need her retro for the beginner missions
helena is a low prio retro

uni first above all

[hollow gust]

Hard to surpass whatever they did to Laffey

[whole crypt]

you can't beat Laffey's durability but you can beat her DPS

[sweet delta]

Laffey is about as niche as mogador

[whole crypt]

both ships are just good where they're good

[half plover]

the funny thing about newer players like me is you guys say she is super niche and I use her in every content

[sweet delta]

we say she's super niche?

[silent relic]

still a long way to go with laf, can get port to retrofit rn

[sweet delta]

That's not the laffey we're talking about

[half plover]

moggy niche, maybe not super niche

[silent relic]

a

[half plover]

I dont have laffey II

[silent relic]

same

[sweet delta]

Niche only meaning niche if you have most relevant endgame ships

[whole crypt]

Laffey II is great, she's my go to with Unicorn for D3 and SP when I don't want to think

I don't think I'm using her anywhere else now 🙂

PvP aside of course

[half plover]

is ever ship on the right spot? or do I want to change some like nagato meta flag

[sweet delta]

Nagat flag

[half plover]

ty

[raven marsh]

uh is there a way to get eldridge retrofit material if i missed event

[cobalt rapids]

gotta wait rerun

[atomic abyss]

so quite a long time

[raven marsh]

damn

[atomic abyss]

at least a year

[raven marsh]

her retro is really good right

[atomic abyss]

it's not quite sandy tier of broken
but it's very good

far from essential though

[half plover]

it is an upgrade to excisting w15 ships but people beat w15 before so

chances are high we will get new and better ships until she gets that rerun so don't worry too much

[eager mulch]

[willow dock]

I want to know where mogador falls off. Every now and then I check which front line ship deals the most damage and usually it's her

[stone sluice]

How Mogador's freeze timing work?
I haven’t used her since I lvl125 her, how can you time it to get airstrikes hit the enemy

[atomic abyss]

mogador falls off in campaign as with almost all destroyers - in w13 and w15

[atomic abyss]

mog doesnt have a true freeze - it's her lunge attack that causes the enemy she attacks to stop moving

this bit in other words

[willow dock]

That because all the air craft spam?

[topaz smelt]

its coded as a 1s stun iirc

[stone sluice]

So you have to time your attack at s24

[atomic abyss]

yes, DDs aren't good at AA after all

[willow dock]

I see

[atomic abyss]

well you can use mog as your DPS to compensate for a lack of other ships, at least in 12/13/14

[topaz smelt]

i cant wrap my head around the whole dps concept
if you have an enemy with 10k hp and a dd does 2k to it over 20s then a bb kills it with a 15k dmg hit, whats the effective dps of both ships?

[viscid swift]

it's an on paper exercise more than anything else

it's more of a measure of a ship's potential rather than practical applications

[willow dock]

I believe that's why I compare damage only between Frontline ships from backline

[topaz smelt]

well a paper exercise should be based on applicable scenarios otherwise its not even related to the game

[viscid swift]

the thing about DPS is that it's pretty much always assuming the ideal scenarios that you'll never see in game

i.e. everything hits and does max damage

how well it can translate that potential into results is another matter

[eager mulch]

riceist I miss cia

[topaz smelt]

same

one of the few ppl that actually knows the game

[spring bolt]

just use actual damage number and calculate base on actual fight i guess, so dph is much more convenient to use...

[topaz smelt]

h for hit?

[spring bolt]

hit, salvo, airstrike, whatever

[topaz smelt]

@spring bolt any new interesting maga comps?

[tired condor]

if i 3 starred every stage on hard, is there a point in 3 starring the normal event stages

[spring bolt]

interesting.... idk... people are using helena to get 2 takeoffs kill, or others posting nakh one fleet kill but looks like high roll

[topaz smelt]

i prob could look into a 2 strike kill comp

but i dont think i can recc 6 vits

im mainly looking for something that can stablize mog or replace her

or just a whole another stable comp than mog unzen

[tired forum]

Can someone please explain me, why Ju-87 D-4 must be better then Barracuda?

[spring bolt]

i'll try putting mog in middle and see if that works, sacrificing some vanguard damage for consistency might be a good idea here

[topaz smelt]

ive been running tank mog

[eager mulch]

you can’t compare the 2, they do different things

[topaz smelt]

but mostly the issue isnt mog dying, its more of mog missing

[soft raft]

if you're looking at ECTL, higher does not always mean better
read the gear descriptions

[viscid swift]

has anyone tried like Nahkimov, Shinano, Amagi, Voro/Tashkent, Kazagumo, Unzen or something like that

[topaz smelt]

ye requires highroll

[viscid swift]

rip

[tired forum]

I can't understand, you mean that cannon better then torps?

not boss purposes?

[atomic abyss]

torpedo iron blood vs torpedo common

torpedo ironblood/sakura converge on a singular point
torpedo common just have the torps fire in a vertical line

[soft raft]

no that's not the point
the difference is the torpedos

[spring bolt]

so we need to limit nagato movement...

[tired forum]

ah, I see

[topaz smelt]

huh if you do alsace + amagi, i think you can drop em for wnt on mog. nvm

[tired forum]

thank

[wary timber]

so... if i wanted a full CV backline with converging torps i should be using Implacable, AVP and Ark Royal together right ...

[atomic abyss]

you only need 1 freezer/slower - not 3

you would pair impla with any haku+nano or amagi+nano

[wary timber]

i see.

so ... if i lack CVs to back up my freezer/slower.. is it even a smart idea to try giving CVLs like maybe the Independence converging torps

[atomic abyss]

indep in particular is a horrendous idea - she wont sync

[soft raft]

I wouldn't be using Indep for a syncing comp in the first place

She's too fast

[wary timber]

so whats a good CVL that can sync

[soft raft]

Why do you want to use a CVL

[atomic abyss]

why must it be a CVL?

you do realise rocket fighters also need slows/freezers right?
so stuff like yorktown2/enty also want freezers/slows

[wary timber]

just wanting to see i its remotely possible.

[atomic abyss]

in fact, indep aside, most CVLs are ultra cursed to sync - they have higher reloads so they launch a good 2 or more seconds faster than CVs
...not to mention their dps is lacking

most of them only have 6 planes - their DPS would be less period

it's not impossible
it's just takes quite a bit of effort to sync, all for less damage due to their loadouts

the only CVLs with 8 planes are indep kai, centaur and albion
uni kai has 7

[viscid swift]

and Theseus

[atomic abyss]

ah right, i always forget theseus

[wary timber]

oh yea. speaking about Theseus, is she good?

[atomic abyss]

good, but nothing special

[wary timber]

i see

for the Ju-87 D-4, what do they mean by consistency ?

is it the ever so slightly faster reload

[eager mulch]

who is they

[wary timber]

tierlist

[sweet delta]

Ask the tier list

[eager mulch]

me when people ask questions about the tierlist in the server that’s not the tierlist

[sweet delta]

They probably mean that two of three ju87d torps drop 6 units closer to the enemy horizontally, and therefore they have a higher chance to hit a moving enemy.
But I doubt anyone's proved it with a good simulation because saiun's faster speed makes two out of two torps drop like 8 units closer

[stoic flicker]

can someone make me a mob and boss fleet for w14, i tried making them myself and I cant even go past 14-2....

[wary timber]

so thats still a mystery lol

[viscid swift]

could post all of your URs and SRs in a thread

[stoic flicker]

well thats all of the max lvl/max skills ones I have in that pic

[eager mulch]

whats with the blacked out squares

[stoic flicker]

ships I'm still skill training

[viscid swift]

yeah, good chance you'll need to level new ships so you're not tackling W14 right now either way

[sweet delta]

Id take a Eldridge retro with level 1 skills over a Chicago with max level skills

[viscid swift]

I also have no idea what your gear situation is like so you may need some additional time to get that sorted as well

[stoic flicker]

I just want to 3 star w14 because I NEED the musashi skin and im out of cash

[atomic abyss]

If you're struggling with 14-2
I think 14-4 might be a bit of a stretch...

[sweet delta]

It's doable with those ships assuming the gear is up to par. But you should know that 14-1 and 14-2 are like tutorials to the far more difficult 14-3

And if you need gems for a skin then 💳

[stoic flicker]

💳 is empty

are meowfficers important at this point?

[viscid swift]

they help

anyway though, who exactly did you black out

the skin doesn't go away for another what, 2 weeks still

[stoic flicker]

i dont have the original pic ill just make a thread

my ships

[keen sable]

What happened yesterday...

Oh yesterday was 4 ops fleets (or 3 rather)

[stone sluice]

She has a beautiful barrage 💫 but there are better choices

[glacial widget]

Anyone got a fleet for Helena challenge this month?

[cobalt rapids]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rgPzJCNlILOdhHXxvqCEXbTLvned36nwsRAEl_269mQ/edit#heading=h.luo5ed8h5oht i dont but this link does

[stoic flicker]

what do you get for this helena thing

[stark quiver]

A cool commander frame

[keen sable]

R e s p e c t

[stark quiver]

A sense of achievement

[half plover]

that budget example is crazy

[eager mulch]

the ability to see 4 helena variants on the field at once

[cobalt rapids]

turtle new pfp

[stark quiver]

It’s not tho

[half plover]

44 rld cv stats

[stark quiver]

Ships n everything is accessible, just the reload stat that’s not really

[half plover]

also a lot of planes at +13

[cobalt rapids]

compensate with cats

[half plover]

I really regret that I pulled for avrora instead of aurora now

so for cv stats is it RLD > AVI?

[stark quiver]

That’s would be the better choice yea

[cobalt rapids]

u mean for tech ? for both hulls ( bb and cv ) u should prio rld first

[soft raft]

RLD > HIT > AVI/FP

[half plover]

oh for BB I prio Hit rn

[stark quiver]

Did you finish rld?

[half plover]

but I should switch to rld in that case

no I started with fp and hit tbh

+kii 2fp

[cobalt rapids]

rld could do stuff or it could do nothing unlike hit and fp/avi which are straight dmg increase but its a tool that helps u play with ur fleet setup and when it works it does help

[half plover]

but tbh I didn't really start with fleet tech pushing, it was more in the course of just playing and obtaining better ships

[stark quiver]

Tech grinding is a very late game thing to do

[cobalt rapids]

i recc doing tech grinding when u dont have good ships to lvl

[half plover]

yeah I stopped doing it and decided to grind my good ships to 125 first

bc I noticed 13hard just deletes my ships

[eager mulch]

[half plover]

just to confirm if I do yamashiro and fusou I can just retro them for collection and fun right

[stark quiver]

Yes

[half plover]

even tho they are worse after retro it wouldn't matter too much?

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[stark quiver]

I see it as a waste of resources tho, but you do you

[cobalt rapids]

or just retro them after ure done grinding

[soft raft]

retrofit does count for collection after all

[half plover]

yeah and higher quality color + retro skin makes it cooler

[topaz smelt]

rld tech is kinda cope unless you care about meta fights, altho i dont think max rld was needed for a while now

[eager mulch]

maybe if they release enough rld tech and we can sync yamato gun to helena scan

[topaz smelt]

find me 2 more yamato guns

and like 100 more rld tech

[cobalt rapids]

ill take the rld equiv over hit and fp for late campaign, meta fights and arbiter fights if i had to choose

[soft raft]

Yamato will be able to sync Yamato gun with Helena guys, trust

[topaz smelt]

youre often running lower rld lately for meta fights, late campaign you def want hit, arby doesnt really need high rld

and you really want the hit for modern meta fights too

[cobalt rapids]

ppl who still have to work on rld will run helena meaning its good for cv for syncing em to her and also could help some ur bb naturally hit 4th salvo in showdown
late campaign wants both but rld is still more valueable so i wouldnt go as far as to call it cope
rld for arby yet again helps bb with hpfcr avoid the 20s shenenigans

[topaz smelt]

what do you gain from more rld in campaign?

[cobalt rapids]

uptime on dmg

[topaz smelt]

esp when fighting bosses with 110eva

[cobalt rapids]

i didnt say hit is bad

[topaz smelt]

uptime comes from gearing, sure you can shave 2s from a fight but that ultimately is negligible

[hollow gust]

457 pew pew pew pew pew

[cobalt rapids]

i meant as in shooting/launching faster so bb prods or cv pairs could potentially not launch additional shelling/airstrikes at ur fleet

[topaz smelt]

again gearing

getting 0.5s earlier timing could prevent an extra strike to your face but thats not enitrely reliable nor consistent

ive tried it

and that completely falls apart on 0 ammo

[hollow gust]

oh yeah did u see the post fix amagi yet riciest

[cobalt rapids]

yes i said potentially

[topaz smelt]

ye i heard about it

so its like if youre relying on an rng/inconsistent kill on a cv to save your run, its likely a bad fleet to begin with

[cobalt rapids]

i made multiple points

[topaz smelt]

concepts ive already tried and tested, theres merits to them but not in all cases

[cobalt rapids]

it is debatable ofc, but that is my own perspective

[topaz smelt]

99% of the time i dont even notice my rld was set lower due to meta fight comps

[cobalt rapids]

in my own experience i did find myself missing a few reload for some setups yet i never actually felt the lack of a few fp or hit

[half plover]

I agree with umi bc which new player has a perfect fleet

like good gear can compensate bad ships so tech can probably compensate a bit as well

[topaz smelt]

if cats arent important then why would tech be? since cats provide much more than tech

[cobalt rapids]

who said they arent

[topaz smelt]

realistically they arent, outside of flame lines

they arent gonna make or break runs

[left cedar]

imagine be a begginer with perfect cats ...
not ironically, any one here have all BBs and CVs perfect cats? cuz i dont have

[undone plover]

Drake is good

[cobalt rapids]

i dont have perfect any cat yet

[quartz island]

I settled with half decent cats

[cobalt rapids]

but theres not a big difference from a near perfect cat to a perf one

[topaz smelt]

perfect cats are several mils of coin

[half plover]

I got told I got a good starter cat but I have no idea how I can even upgrade her from now on

[topaz smelt]

ye its often 1 rld diff

[little tree]

Does +5 hit on Cv make much of a difference?

[left cedar]

not ironically, i have the worse ones
CAs and SSs are trully perfect ...

[inland shoal]

You are a perfect cat in my eyes

[inland shoal]

Depends on what much is to you. It makes a diference.

[little tree]

The aa gun I gave independence give +5 hit

[half plover]

how can I improve this cat? I never did cat stuff until now

[topaz smelt]

5 hit is prob like 2-3% increased hit rate

[undone plover]

Get xp on cat
Get more talents
Pray talents are good
If not reroll if the starter talent is good
Lose lots of coins to reroll

[topaz smelt]

get soul on it

[forest palm]

needs Soulful Warrior

[half plover]

how can I get soul on it

[forest palm]

level up, and gambling

[undone plover]

It is rng

[half plover]

yeah but which button do I have to press to gamble

and do I have to lock skills etc

[inland shoal]

Except on low eva targets it's better than the other AA option which is FP
Also has the advantage of having better AA properties

[quartz island]

After you spend talents, there's a button you can use to reset them once per day?

[half plover]

here?

[forest palm]

you only need to spend like 1 talent point to reset

[quartz island]

You can't lock skills, it fully resets back to its starting talents

[inland shoal]

Would be great if you actually could lock skills

[half plover]

so I just press on upgrade artillery adept - main?

[topaz smelt]

you click stuff you want, when you get stuck with shit options you click reset
repeat until good cat

[quartz island]

Being able to lock talents would actually be enough insurance for me to have the courage to aim for a perfect cat

[half plover]

but it says upgrade not reroll

I dont get that

[inland shoal]

You have to first upgrade to have anything to reroll

[quartz island]

You can't reroll yet because you haven't spent points to reroll lol

[inland shoal]

You are trying to undo before even starting to do anything

[copper dragon]

can i leave a in progress opsi sector and come back and still have the progress saved?

[half plover]

so I just upgrade whatever?

[quartz island]

Upgrade the good skills

[inland shoal]

Upgrade good talents. In your case both upgradable talents are good

[half plover]

ty

[inland shoal]

As long as there's still enemies anyway; if only Akashi is left or similar, not necessarily

[half plover]

so I pressed on upgrade

how can I reset it

[quartz island]

Look behind you

[inland shoal]

And now in the bg you see a button that says reset talents

[left cedar]

perfect it will be something like
Officer BB(3) / Artillery(3) / Flame / Soulful* / RLD(2)* or HIT(2)* BB talent

*New talents

[copper dragon]

hell yeah

[undone plover]

Was there a limit on resetting talents?

[quartz island]

Nope, just time gated

[half plover]

so if I reset talents this cat can go totally shit?

[inland shoal]

What kind of limit?

[undone plover]

Oh yeah that is what I meant

[quartz island]

No, it only resets back to its initial state

[topaz smelt]

only limit is once per day

[inland shoal]

No you always reset back to the same base you started with

[copper dragon]

yo my hood got obliterated again

[left cedar]

start talents are fixed, they cannot be changed on reseting

[undone plover]

Like can u reroll with 600000 coins in one session

[half plover]

and how can I get a new talent like soul this way

[inland shoal]

Ah yeah no you can't

[half plover]

if I just upgrade existing skills

[undone plover]

Talent 1 2 and 3 are fixed
Talent 4 is rng

[quartz island]

We love our historical accuracy

[undone plover]

U are rerolling for talent #4

[half plover]

ah so I can choose one of these as a new talent

[inland shoal]

You always get 2 (or less) upgrades and 2 new talents to choose from

[copper dragon]

if the sirens were biscuits....

[half plover]

yeah now I get it

[left cedar]

its RNG, they can show up, or not ... from all talents pool ... so git gud and get it

[sweet delta]

If you have enough cats then yes

[inland shoal]

Actually this makes me question recent math again

[soft raft]

Keep gambling
"Aw Dangit!"

[queen jackal]

do higher hard mode chapters have any noticeable difference in tiers of retrofit blueprints

[topaz smelt]

what recent math?

[undone plover]

Was the time gate 1 reset/day?

[boreal wagon]

1 reset/day/cat

[soft raft]

We don't know for certain, but higher world = more core data per run at a max of 30 at W13

[inland shoal]

Just someone telling me how it's cheaper to only take 1 skill and reset

[topaz smelt]

that sounds suboptimal

[undone plover]

For maximum efficiency time and coin wise it is best to reroll with 2 talents right?
Spend 1 then roll for 2nd
Reset if both times no soulful?

[inland shoal]

Time wise no
Coin wise maybe

[undone plover]

Dont spend 2nd obv

[topaz smelt]

i thnk for both

dont resets get more efficient the more pts you spend

[inland shoal]

Yes, but the first choice doesn't cost you anything so to speek

[copper dragon]

once again... fleet got obliterated... everyone jus became hood

[topaz smelt]

cuz its just coin spent vs new talents seen

[undone plover]

So it is coin vs time I see

[stoic flicker]

is w14 the last world?

[topaz smelt]

costs 3k

[inland shoal]

If you can't get a talent to lvl 3 maybe it's better to get more talents cuz you get 3 and not just 2 choices but idk would have to calc it

[inland shoal]

W15 is

[undone plover]

Oh yeah makes sense

[copper dragon]

nc exploded.

[stoic flicker]

[inland shoal]

If you have a question or sth you want help with pls say so

[copper dragon]

anything to beat na ocean sw sector a?

[stoic flicker]

what do you even need for w15-4, all UR all 125 fleets?

[sweet delta]

Not NC

[inland shoal]

Ngl I have no idea what corrosion lvl that even is

[undone plover]

There is a w15 tierlist
Check /w15 in commands

[sweet delta]

The best fleets aren't all rainbow, and it's even possible (but not best) to use zero rainbows

[copper dragon]

siren occupied

[coarse heron]

I wonder what the highest chapter you can beat with an all common fleet is

[copper dragon]

so idk, doesnt tell me, aside from corrosion lvl 2 on explorable zone

[topaz smelt]

prob this since 1st is always added to 2pt

[undone plover]

Screenshot it

[inland shoal]

Hmm? Before 1st upgrade you see 2
Then you get the first talent to 3 so next selection you already see 3 new talents for a total of 5 no?

[topaz smelt]

ye

[undone plover]

That is if u start with a 2pt talent right?

[inland shoal]

Wait your efficiency is coins/talent seen?

[topaz smelt]

cost/talents

[inland shoal]

Yes that's what 1/1/2 means

So lower number is better

[topaz smelt]

ye

[inland shoal]

I mean if you really try probably can beat all of it but

[topaz smelt]

idk about spending 2 years to roll a cat tho

[inland shoal]

You're always adding 3 though does that make sense?

[topaz smelt]

kinda depends

its like do you want to take rld as 4th or do you only take flame/soul 4th

or even do you take rld as soon as you see it

cuz thatll cut talents seen to +2 for 4pts min

[inland shoal]

Hmm ig for w15 with commons you won't get enough AA to survive? Since manual can't help much with that either
I'd think up to 14 should be doable

[sweet delta]

Considering that even full IB allowing rainbows hasn't been done yet, I don't think full commons with Langley and whoever else in support can do it

[inland shoal]

This is slowly becoming too annoying to work out

[topaz smelt]

ye it is

its more of do you want to spend 2 years rolling cats to save 1/2 the coins

[inland shoal]

Yeah

[topaz smelt]

i think i rolled 4 cats for like 6 months at 10k each before hitting

[inland shoal]

Though if you're short on coins ig that doesn't matter much cuz you don't have much of a choice

[topaz smelt]

if youre short coins for 2 years youre doing something wrong

i wonder if amagi saves my nc w15 comp

[loud scarab]

where can i find a list of the interactions with skins, in particular of musashi's latest one?

[topaz smelt]

prob on reddit

[half plover]

from my personal experience I was short on coins for 6months and then it became way better

so yeah 2 years sounds like a long time

[sweet delta]

I've been short on coins for 5 years

[half plover]

[fervent hearth]

if ur a whale ish its worth buying oil from the shop righttt the 600 gems for 10k im asking as a f2p

[topaz smelt]

iirc if youre high enough level directly buying oil is more efficient

pretty sure this is cheaper

but if youre f2p you should never spend gems on an infinite resource

[fervent hearth]

thats like uh

50 gems cheaper no?

NA guys i cant do math mb

[fervent hearth]

ye im lvl 137

[frank quartz]

Who should I take from 6th anniversary invitation? Is pola fine?

[lofty zodiac]

#gameplay-help message

[stoic flicker]

is 428 still max non gems comfort for dorm?

[forest palm]

about 475~

[topaz smelt]

im at 477

[forest palm]

I've yet to break 474, and I'm pretty certain I've collected just about every F2P furniture

[topaz smelt]

i dont think ive gotten any gem furniture

[forest palm]

and that's the problem, there's no absolute answer here, so about 475 is where I landed, because no one has given a definitively answer, nor will there likely be one ever found due to the nature of things

[topaz smelt]

unless theres a diff between buy all and buy set idk

[forest palm]

there's also inaccessible collab furniture

[topaz smelt]

idk if those count like everything else usually collab

[forest palm]

I don't see why those particular pieces wouldn't be weighted

[topaz smelt]

prob same reason as collection % for collabs

[forest palm]

are trophies weighted?

[topaz smelt]

dont think anyone would know for certain

[inland shoal]

I mean there is a difference, but doubt it'll reflect in comfort, unless there's some cracked furniture they sold several copies of

[forest palm]

given that comfort severely plateaus at this juncture it is hard to care, or calculate what is attainble by F2P means when the results are so little the further you push

[remote yarrow]

I'm at 414

I think I could've gotten like +4 or +5 but I ran out of dorm coins from buying the ones that came back (not sure if this is true) on Anni

[stark quiver]

I wouldn’t really care after like 400

[topaz smelt]

surely a dev would answer if we asked nicely

[forest palm]

just rework comfort la, the system is shit as is either way

[topaz smelt]

cant be worse than cats

[forest palm]

surely

[remote steppe]

Is it worth to farm the daily x3 bonus currency drop from normal stages in this event once a day or just stick to D3 for better gear drops?

[stark quiver]

Just do d3

[viscid swift]

if you can do it cheaply enough it is certainly worth doing

[little tree]

is 22 oil a battle cheap

[stark quiver]

And if you care about to bother

[viscid swift]

no, more like 4 oil

[little tree]

~~ who has leveled Grey ships~~

[undone plover]

Nevada and Oklahoma for BB RLD

And langley for CV rld

[half plover]

if u retro them they are not grey anymore

[stark quiver]

Collection

[topaz smelt]

rangers the highest damage cap ship in the game

[stark quiver]

What

Really?

So gotta hit 2 rng rolls

[forest palm]

it's more of a theoretical at best, but yes

[topaz smelt]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZGY2YzFhZDNmNzA0NzAzODJhZGVmMzViNWMyNjBkMGQyOGY5ODczOCZjdD1n/RPR1YHZfgDJLuzUKrW/giphy.gif

[viscid swift]

just wait for the best aug in the game which buffs both her skills' proc chance to 75%

[topaz smelt]

id take 100% qt

[stark quiver]

Is it possible for ranger to proc infinitely

[sweet delta]

If you have infinite time and device computing

[stark quiver]

I’ll take that as a yes

[timid moon]

Is Musashi fleet still the best anti heavy armor?

[sweet delta]

Depends on the boss

[forest palm]

basically the way Ranger works is broken as fuck, but she's kneecaped by the skills' limitation

[sweet delta]

For BB fleets, Musashi is often there for heavy

[somber lichen]

how do I use exp books?

[forest palm]

in a ships profile tap the xp bar

[viscid swift]

Tap the blue text that says boost xp

[somber lichen]

oh ok thanks

[vivid veldt]

how much exp is it to go straight from 120 to 125

[minor forge]

What’ll be the route for me to try and grind nagato meta. I’m only able to get 71 sync tokens every attempt. Unsure if there’s a better way.

[frank pulsar]

like, a few million or smth
wiki has exact numbers

[frank pulsar]

just use up your daily attempts and do your assists everyday

[minor forge]

This is the fleet I use.

Assist?

[frank pulsar]

uhhh

[minor forge]

I haven’t done much of OP so it’s kind of new to me

[frank pulsar]

so like, world chat has a lot of people spamming their meta boss assist requests
just do those, although theres a daily limit as well

its supposed to take some time to grind out nagato

[minor forge]

Oh, I’ve been doing that majority of the time lol

[thorny sky]

where can I get prototype cores?

[frank pulsar]

analyse the combat data exp things and converting bp of ship thats dev30

[thorny sky]

ok sorry about this but where can I do those? op siren?

[frank pulsar]

the combat data exp things are from cruise missions and rookie missions, those are in your inventory
the bp is also in your inventory, but you need to bring the ship all the way to dev30 at least before the game lets you convert it

[mint flint]

you can get bps from research and combat data packs from rookie/cruise missions

[frank pulsar]

tldr protocore is near impossible to farm early game if youve already used all your combat data exp things

[blissful hamlet]

does amagi cv preload works with little akagi or kaga BB?

[frank pulsar]

idk about little akagi but iirc it works with kaga bb
youll have to wait for someone whos certain to answer

[blissful hamlet]

I'll just use both of them

[frank pulsar]

why would you ever use either though

[blissful hamlet]

so that she get fast load to get mvp

I'm still leveling her

[hollow gust]

just use fast planes....

[topaz smelt]

If you're using ships that bad she'll mvp regardless

[stark quiver]

what are the 3 most rng based backline and vanguard ships

[blissful hamlet]

why would I use bad plane if she can use good plane and have fast load

[hollow gust]

what bad planes.......

[topaz smelt]

So you can level useful ships instead of trash

[keen sable]

Rng li umm

[whole crypt]

fast planes != bad
also you're choosing to use bad carriers instead plus waste XP

[blissful hamlet]

fast plane are bad plane

[viscid swift]

uhhh no

[viscid swift]

Flapjack and 2 Spearfishes was getting to around 20 seconds relaod

[blissful hamlet]

that's not fast plane that's normal plane

[sweet delta]

20 is too slow, soyuz and Alsace already killed everything

[hollow gust]

Those are faster planes...

[whole crypt]

ah well classic serenity

[blissful hamlet]

this fast plane
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Grumman_XF5F_Skyrocket#Type_0-0

[viscid swift]

good thing I was using Vestal and a 0 LB Nagato META with Amagi then

[blissful hamlet]

[hollow gust]

just use normal planes then ffs

amagi only needs to strike first, then she gurantees mvp, also if she is any decent level then she solo carries

[minor forge]

What can I put on for my Laffey two to help me dish out more DMG on nagato meta? (The ASW was for the event thing)

[whole crypt]

for a start don't use Laffey

[sweet delta]

134mm AA gun and better torps

[minor forge]

It’s laffy 2

[sweet delta]

What would be modern serenity?

[whole crypt]

and ASW auxes are useless

[sharp socket]

also the asw sonar does nothing

[whole crypt]

yes and there are better DPS ships than her

[minor forge]

Ah

My fleet comp rn is Unzen, Guam and laffey 2

[sweet delta]

I recommend putting Helena

[whole crypt]

if you're using BBs swap for plymouth
if you're using CVs swap for kazagumo
Helena works

(except when she doesn't)

[whole crypt]

ask after he gets modernization node

[minor forge]

O boy my Helena has gotten neglected. She’s def getting burnt lol

[cosmic palm]

what can I do to pad my TRP?

[hollow gust]

Oxy torps , more dds

[woeful moon]

How can I get rid of my cats ? (Retire)

[viscid swift]

the only way is to feed them to each other

[frank pulsar]

feed them to other cats in enhancement

[woeful moon]

Kk, time to farm so gold

[keen sable]

Kasumi meta

[stark quiver]

Any thoughts

[timid moon]

Were there any l2ds like the new Musashi skin or is it the first of its kind?

lots of cool interactive objects

her skin has a dang nikke easter egg

[keen sable]

Do they help you kill things?

[trim bloom]

What's worth grinding for in the event shop? I'm commander level 99

[timid moon]

whatever man

[stark quiver]

This one?

[timid moon]

ranger is the most rng-based

[keen sable]

Portland

[topaz smelt]

yykz

[keen sable]

Ledommy

[stark quiver]

no idea what any of these mean

[keen sable]

Yukikaze is a good one

L'indomptible or something like that

[stark quiver]

Nice thanks

[sharp socket]

not the first, wont be the last

[keen sable]

Pin but everything could be useful

[pallid yoke]

does anyone know which build pool is Kashino from

[sharp socket]

special, current UR event pool also shares special

[uncut creek]

if i oath bis zwei do i get the oath skin still, or do i have to oath bismarck and then put it on zwei?

[sharp socket]

1 or 2

for metato

[stark quiver]

id personally go with 1

[sharp socket]

or 3

this one has the benefit of costing very little

[spring bolt]

watch out for avp 12% rld buff, not sure if the fleet maker included that

[sharp socket]

i calced that in already

i think suchi or seacat said its 0.97 modifier to avp final rld

3 has slightly larger difference between plane launch times so any decimals from inaccurate calcs wont get in the way

[spring bolt]

also ideally you just need mog for the hit rate of 3rd airstrike, no need to use a freezer
anyway avp damage against heavy is not that good so the 3 setups won't give you very different result

pick the one cost the least imo

[sharp socket]

can i use mog timing for cv fleet stuff in opsi aswell

ideally i want a cv fleet that doesnt require different gearing for opsi aswell to save on cost

[spring bolt]

hard, unless you give up on cats

[sharp socket]

but if that isnt possible then oh well

i have 6 cv rld tech anyway, will mog even work

[eager lynx]

you'll be able to get the Oath Skin for Zwei so long as Zwei is oathed. I have Yorktown 2 oathed, wearing the oath skin, and Yorktown (1) isn't even at 80 affinity

[spring bolt]

ideal cv rld is 16-17 but i heard something around 10 will also work, if you tweak your airstrike timing a little bit

[topaz smelt]

ye it depends on the tb setup

[sharp socket]

i dont see where in mog’s kit she has a slow though how does she work

[topaz smelt]

her stab is a 1s stun

[sharp socket]

so what are her timings for the stun

i assume its 12s + something

[spring bolt]

with 16 rld tech, airstrike time in dock should be around 22.8x

and it will match mog stab

[sharp socket]

so ill just bring it there and itll work with mog?

[vivid veldt]

is there a limit of 3 auto sorties or am i missing something

[viscid swift]

the limit is 3 except for the WAs which is 4

[spring bolt]

this is pre-patch with 10 cv rld, all backlines oathed 200 aff
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wHt8eEE9f/

[topaz smelt]

looks like cn is starting to adopt my fleet

[sweet delta]

What got patched

[spring bolt]

amagi skill bug

[forest palm]

I was meaning to asked what changed that they had to enforce a 6 hour maint

[topaz smelt]

its was still very overkill prefix

[sharp socket]

i made this with your timing in mind

so this work with mog?

5 rld tech

[topaz smelt]

looks like they havent figured out quint mag unzen yet

[spring bolt]

should be, yeah

[spring bolt]

they are probably all poking sirius skin now so yeah

[topaz smelt]

i am as well

[spring bolt]

+1

[spring topaz]

what's the best formation to use if the content is actually hard?

[sharp socket]

are you asking for fleetbuilding advice

[sweet delta]

Double or circular

[spring topaz]

the bottom left formation icon

[sharp socket]

oh that thing
double line most of the time
circular if AA heavy and more AA needed

[forest palm]

what map is this for...

[spring topaz]

doing the event stage at the end, ex?

requires average ship level of 110

[soft raft]

You uh
you dont grind EX stage

[eager mulch]

we are not the same

[spring topaz]

I'm trying it for the first time

I'm nervous I might not clear it

[fickle parcel]

Are they hacking?

That's like 2300 clears or something right?

[stark quiver]

either they hack or they grind a lot

[plain saffron]

What's the name

[eager mulch]

turtle

[stark quiver]

is it imron

[eager mulch]

its per server so it’s different

[fickle parcel]

Not trying to witch hunt. Just wondering if it was remotely possible.

[plain saffron]

Yes

[viscid swift]

possible yes, practical and useful no

[plain saffron]

But i think 1 week is still too fast

[eager mulch]

oh it’s Donald trump on avrora

[stark quiver]

its such a waste of oil
i feel like i heard that name b4

[plain saffron]

It's for flex

[finite crag]

how much to buy out shop?

[viscid swift]

122550 event points

[forest palm]

not worth

[lone knoll]

is this any decent or should i swap planes ? the gold one in particular (amagi cv)

[elfin hollow]

what does this mean?

[stark quiver]

you get 25% more xp for being on high morale

[elfin hollow]

oh wow

didn't know about this im playing since 2018

[lone knoll]

is this worth to build over triple 406mm ? I have 1 already

[stark quiver]

oh its 20%

[elfin hollow]

thank you!

[atomic abyss]

They don't use the same materials tho, so I'm not sure why you have to build one over another

[lone knoll]

prto cores??

[atomic abyss]

Mk7 doesn't cost protocores

[stark quiver]

probably protocore
decideing between tenrai and champy

[atomic abyss]

Unless you mean the champagne gun

In which you need 3 anyways

[stark quiver]

id still take the tenrai

[atomic abyss]

More important to get 3 of the champagne guns

[sweet delta]

It seems that you can buy one but not the other

[lone knoll]

should I get 3 then plane or 1 gun 1 plane? I have amagi I want to haver built ptoperly

[atomic abyss]

Save the protocore for next month

[lone knoll]

😿

[viscid swift]

you can only get one copy of the Tenrai period from the prototype shop

[atomic abyss]

Unless you already have a Soyuz gun and Flandre gun lying around

[lone knoll]

I have like 4 gold bb guns

[atomic abyss]

And most of the gold BB guns in the game are shit

[sweet delta]

Just buy champ gun whenever you can, and buy tenrai whenever you can afford in one go enough bps to craft it

[viscid swift]

only the one on the far right is good

[lone knoll]

champ gun ? wich one is champ gun? 406?

[atomic abyss]

4/5 are shit, only the far right is good
You need 2 more champagne guns

[viscid swift]

the rest are all scrap material

[atomic abyss]

And then you can go get tenrais

[lone knoll]

😿 i dont have gear

[lone knoll]

oke I will do it

i Will skip tenaris, i can get extra bps in the meanwhile reducing it's cost

[viscid swift]

you'll want two sooner rather than later

[atomic abyss]

The gain you get from switching from Helldiver to tenrai is far smaller than the gain you get from switching from a shitty gold BB gun to a good BB AP gun

At least use the purple triple 406mm mk6 as an interim

[sweet delta]

You're done with 1 tenrai without using the shop but aren't done with pr4 ships yet?

[lone knoll]

I dont have a single ship maxed

regarding research

[sweet delta]

That's quite an impressive gear focus then, even more so considering pr4 gold ships are coinable

[lone knoll]

my acc is new I'm still unlocjing FdG

[sweet delta]

Oh you mean you have 1 champ gun, not 1 tenrai

[lone knoll]

yeah my bad

not my first language

[spring bolt]

you are on the right track, get 2 more champ guns and nothing to worry

[lone knoll]

I feel like amagi is still missing something thats why i was asking about gear, I will get 2 champ guns then

[atomic abyss]

Helldivers are more than enough for her 2nd slot

[lone knoll]

even better than suisei apparently

[viscid swift]

it's better than all but 3 dive bombers in the game

[atomic abyss]

Suisei is garbage lmao

[lone knoll]

crazy value then

[viscid swift]

yeah, might wanna give Sam's gear guide in #bot-spam /equip a read

[thin haven]

Is Intrepid good?

[lone knoll]

where do I get this? first time seeing it. OP?

[viscid swift]

Operation Siren

[lone knoll]

I will again

[lone knoll]

is posponing op siren taht bad

[viscid swift]

the sooner you start the better

[lone knoll]

Im completly clueless doing sirem i just chase checkmarks and gold icons

[sweet delta]

There's no need to +11 purple gear

[spring bolt]

below average among gold cvs

[lone knoll]

but isnt helldiver really good?

[viscid swift]

gold plates aren't common enough to bother with +13ing intermediate/transitional gear of any kind

[lone knoll]

oh makes sense, I wont do it. even i wanted i cant

[sweet delta]

Helldiver gold plates are recoverable, but it costs electronics so meh

[noble tulip]

I'd say mk6 is fine since you're gonna make mk7's later down the line so it's not really wasted

[viscid swift]

crafting through the Mk6 is more expensive than the MkD

you're paying 2 more UR design plans a lot more electronics

[noble tulip]

That is true ignore my previous statement

[sharp socket]

guide

[lone knoll]

I will download this image thank you very much

[sweet delta]

Which month did pr4 get coining in

[viscid swift]

January this year

[lone knoll]

so acording to the gear guide this should be a decent poverty enterprise (if I have a slow) right?

assuming skill and gear is maxxed and lvl120

[sharp socket]

dont bother with sync setups if not 120+ or have a proper comp

[lone knoll]

oh so I should change the gold plane for another thing? I read that converging planes are better with a slow

[sharp socket]

yes if you have a slow/stop

if you dont, use parallel tb

[gaunt dagger]

do ur gear boxes give gear lab gear?

[lone knoll]

so I should change it for barracuda?

[sharp socket]

for campaign always parallel

[sharp socket]

no

they give whatever is in gold pool of purple boxes respective faction

[lone knoll]

so purple barracuda > gold aichi just because they are parallel

[gaunt dagger]

like the rainbow ones

[sharp socket]

UR box does not give UR gear

[sharp socket]

for campaign yes

converge tb are only for bossing with slow/stop in cv fleet

[lone knoll]

ok so nieche

[sharp socket]

yes, use if you know how to use them

[lone knoll]

I dont so I will just ignore them for now, thank you

[rustic osprey]

Which girl to build from pr 2

[viscid swift]

FDG

[atomic abyss]

FdG and only FdG

[hollow gust]

azuma is fine

[sharp socket]

after fdg

[uneven badger]

give me reason to use volga

[lilac frost]

Does this automatically buy stuff from mysterious merchant or only for map stuff that needs items to go on?

[hollow gust]

shes good

[topaz smelt]

only map stuff

[uneven badger]

idk she doesn't have dive

[hollow gust]

so?

[viscid swift]

if you mean dive bombers she literally does

[uneven badger]

no comment

[atomic abyss]

Map stuff
Not akashi shops

[viscid swift]

I don't know which is worse, the fact you didn't know or the fact you though that her not having DBs was a make or break

[stark quiver]

shes a healer

[sharp socket]

EN moment

[uneven badger]

ok

[atomic abyss]

Volga is a secondary healer
Which are pretty much unavoidable for w14/15

[viscid swift]

Volga is one of the best secondary healers to supplement Unicorn in later campaign stages

[atomic abyss]

There is a better alternative in Aquila sure, but otherwise there's stuff like Zuihou which aren't as good

[lilac frost]

In w15, is healing aquila or preload aquila better?

[uneven badger]

wait sorry i got wrong ship